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Speaker 6: to tonight's special guests joining us from New Jersey. Unfortunately
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Speaker 6: It's Rob from New Jersey. Hey, thank you so much
Speaker 6: for joining us tonight. I really appreciate it. O.
Speaker 8: Thank thank you, George, thank you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: For sure, before we get started, just get let the
Speaker 6: audience get to know you a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, I grew up in I'm forty three now,
Speaker 8: but I grew up in uh in northern New Jersey. Uh.
Speaker 9: It's small town called Lincoln Park. I guess man, So.
Speaker 8: Right right out of high school I get from working.
Speaker 8: I was working with my dad right out of high school.
Speaker 8: I don't know. I would just say I'd be in
Speaker 8: a work van going up and down the Parkway, and
Speaker 8: I just felt like, there's got to be more than
Speaker 8: than this, like this rat race.
Speaker 6: Yeah makes perfect school, and I think we all have
Speaker 6: that thoughts.
Speaker 8: Yeah, go ahead, But I think I think that's kind
Speaker 8: of kind of when it when it started started for me,
Speaker 8: you know, with you know, knowing something wasn't right.
Speaker 6: I guess so you're you're forty three now that you
Speaker 6: were eighteen at the time. So this was right around
Speaker 6: Colibine nine to eleven time frame when he started to think,
Speaker 6: you know, there's more to this, maybe am I am?
Speaker 7: I right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, but but I you know, I didn't pick up
Speaker 8: on any of that stuff until until way later.
Speaker 9: I was actually I was a big UFO fanatic, and
Speaker 9: same thing.
Speaker 8: With like ghosts and the Poarer normal. I would watch
Speaker 8: Ancient Aliens religiously, you know, every every Friday, every Friday
Speaker 8: and Saturday night. Same thing with ghost Adventures like the
Speaker 8: one with Zach Began's. Yeah, those were my go to
Speaker 8: And I don't know, I feel like you kind of
Speaker 8: get half truths in in some of that stuff those shows,
Speaker 8: with especially with the Ancient Aliens. Let me see where
Speaker 8: am I going? So so, I I don't know, I
Speaker 8: just so Ancient.
Speaker 9: Aliens back then, I guess started to make sense to.
Speaker 8: Me with all this stuff. I'm sorry, man, I'm like nervous.
Speaker 7: No, you're good. You're good because you know what's very interesting.
Speaker 7: You know we've done.
Speaker 6: I think you're number one sixty five, one sixty six,
Speaker 6: and I can't I bet you. At least ten percent
Speaker 6: of the people who have come on this podcast have
Speaker 6: mentioned ancient aliens and that was a big part of
Speaker 6: their their weekend ritual. And I always wondered, I never
Speaker 6: really saw the show, but I wonder if it was
Speaker 6: an intentional deception or these are just people who you know,
Speaker 6: believed what they spoke and it was good for TV
Speaker 6: so they picked it up. Because you know, I'm very
Speaker 6: well aware of some things out there that are intentional deceptions.
Speaker 6: I've never really seen those programs, so I can't speak
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 9: Well, I think I think they just kind of removed God. Well,
Speaker 9: that's absolutely yeah.
Speaker 8: And I think that was the whole point of thisception
Speaker 8: with h with the ancient Aliens.
Speaker 6: So what would you say was the first experience that
Speaker 6: you had that that caused you to sit down and
Speaker 6: think and research a little more than just going up
Speaker 6: to eighty seven in Jersey, you know, wondering, you know
Speaker 6: something's wrong, to the next point of actually taking the
Speaker 6: time to investigate.
Speaker 8: So flat okay, flatter Earth, So flat Earth.
Speaker 9: I checked out flatter Earth probably.
Speaker 8: When did it?
Speaker 9: When did it get big? Like twenty sixteen? Yeah, I think,
Speaker 9: so okay.
Speaker 8: And even when I did it, then I think I
Speaker 8: got deterred. I got deterred from uh. I think I
Speaker 8: even watched that Netflix thing with Mark Sargeant.
Speaker 7: Behind the grif.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but just just the way that that's presented, I think.
Speaker 9: I think it just turned me off for some reason.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people say towards the end
Speaker 6: that was kind of an intentional to make them look bad,
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 7: And then that did turn a lot of people away.
Speaker 8: Maybe Yeah, I don't I can't even remember the whole thing,
Speaker 8: But all I know is it didn't.
Speaker 9: It never piqued my interests, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: It didn't. It didn't make flat Earth stand out to
Speaker 8: me at all. So and then I probably was a sucker.
Speaker 8: I probably even went on YouTube with who who knows,
Speaker 8: Professor Dave or whatever. And I think just that straight
Speaker 8: mockery technique that they use that probably worked, and it
Speaker 8: probably uh deterred me, you know.
Speaker 9: So so it.
Speaker 8: Wasn't until you know, kind of real I would say,
Speaker 8: three years ago on something, I wound up with TikTok
Speaker 8: on the phone, and I was looking into all these
Speaker 8: other conspiracies, not even uh, not even flat Earth, but
Speaker 8: probably because my.
Speaker 9: Algorithm was geared that way.
Speaker 8: It kept coming and it kept coming, and it kept coming,
Speaker 8: and h I even deleted to talk for a while
Speaker 8: because I, I don't know, I was like losing it,
Speaker 8: but I I just know I just kept coming back
Speaker 8: to it. And I don't think I would have got
Speaker 8: there any other way, because you know, even even the
Speaker 8: Netflix documentary, like I wouldn't sit down and watch a
Speaker 8: documentary about flat Earth, but it was those you know,
Speaker 8: a minute two minute videos, these little clips of things
Speaker 8: that made complete sense that that got me. And then
Speaker 8: I would find what documentary that thing came from and
Speaker 8: and I would watch it, and you know, I don't know,
Speaker 8: it probably took like a month. And I think even
Speaker 8: watching I watched like Owen Benjamin, you know, go through
Speaker 8: his uh his flat Earth awakening. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 8: that actually helped me too, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think we all resonated with that experience I did.
Speaker 9: Well, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because.
Speaker 8: It's it's you know, I think everybody probably has the
Speaker 8: around the same kind of experience for that. So so
Speaker 8: that's that's.
Speaker 9: Kinda that's kind of how I woke up to it.
Speaker 8: But I mean the level with the you know level
Speaker 8: level with me all those documentaries, Yeah, I'm booked. I
Speaker 8: don't I don't need to see anything anymore, you know,
Speaker 8: I know, it's fine.
Speaker 9: Absolutely.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They say once, once you're flat, you don't go back
Speaker 6: or whatever the saying is, and and it's true. Once
Speaker 6: you see the truth, you just there's no going back.
Speaker 6: There's no magic pill to make it go away. What
Speaker 6: would you say was the one compelling piece of evidence
Speaker 6: or two or three whatever you wanna to site that
Speaker 6: really puts you over the edge, that made you realize that, Yeah,
Speaker 6: the balls a lie and we're on a relatively flat
Speaker 6: plane with the antarctica, you know, encircling us.
Speaker 8: The the my bullet things, the bullet.
Speaker 7: Sure your six silver bullets.
Speaker 8: I gotta be honest, I'll give my number one. Is
Speaker 8: the disinformation like campaign whatever you want.
Speaker 9: To call it, against it.
Speaker 8: That's that's what told me everything I think I needed
Speaker 8: to know.
Speaker 9: You know about flat earth.
Speaker 8: So you know, you know what I mean When you
Speaker 8: go to Google and you try to look it up
Speaker 8: and it's it's everything flattered is stupid. Flatter at this
Speaker 8: same thing on YouTube, you don't get anything. You never
Speaker 8: get anything pro flat earth. You know, you get a
Speaker 8: Professor Daven and and Dan the Simon and and all
Speaker 8: that kind of stuff, and that got me.
Speaker 9: They probably got me in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 8: So that's that's the one that again, once you get
Speaker 8: your your eyes open, you could see this rights through
Speaker 8: all this stuff now that it's so So.
Speaker 9: That's my number one.
Speaker 7: You know, that's a great one. And I think that's understand.
Speaker 8: Number one because I could campaign against it. It's like,
Speaker 8: you know why.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could go YouTube and put like something very
Speaker 6: specific in the search engine, and it's still going to
Speaker 6: direct me to what they want me to see. You know,
Speaker 6: like you said, the professor Daves or some guy you know,
Speaker 6: ten reasons why flat earth is stupid. You'll never get
Speaker 6: a true search for that particular subject. And that should
Speaker 6: be an eye opener for people because anything else, if
Speaker 6: you put in Reggie Jackson's five hundred home run or somebody,
Speaker 6: it'll take you directly to.
Speaker 8: It, right, correct? Correct?
Speaker 7: Yeah, So yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 9: Go on, I guess.
Speaker 8: I get you know, so even okay, even the it's
Speaker 8: funny with the whole ancient alien things. Once I started
Speaker 8: realizing that it's not it's not just the Bible. I mean,
Speaker 8: it's it's all of these ancient cultures.
Speaker 9: That have that same belief.
Speaker 8: I mean it's not exactly the same, but it's it's
Speaker 8: pretty much the same of uh, you know around around Earth,
Speaker 8: you know, on a flat with the dome, they if
Speaker 8: they all have it. That that's another thing that just
Speaker 8: spoke Vimes to me. So and and you don't he
Speaker 8: I don't know. I after watching Ancient Aliens, ye, I
Speaker 8: don't ever remember them going into anything with with the
Speaker 8: dome or or anything anything like that, even even Operation
Speaker 8: high Jump, like I knew from before I knew flat Earth.
Speaker 9: I knew from Ancient Aliens.
Speaker 8: But they spun a whole like UFO story on top
Speaker 8: of the Operation High Jump.
Speaker 9: And that's another one.
Speaker 8: You know, once once you find out I mean we
Speaker 8: I guess, I think we find out what was really
Speaker 8: going on there with them firing the nukes at the dome.
Speaker 8: The name is operation fishbowl. I mean, come on, you know, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's it's to me, it's it's just it's obvious and
Speaker 8: and you know, feels good. I guess you know when
Speaker 8: you when you first when you first wake up to that,
Speaker 8: I remember walk walking out the door or whatever, and
Speaker 8: in a sense, you kind of know this this secret
Speaker 8: that most people don't. And you know, they they'll think
Speaker 8: you're crazy if you. Uh, you know when I talk
Speaker 8: to people saying, I like, it's funny, I listened to
Speaker 8: this show and I think I probably learned this technique
Speaker 8: from the show. Is just dropping the seeds, you know,
Speaker 8: like like like you're saying, and I think I just
Speaker 8: heard with your last the last goal or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 8: when you when you meet somebody that that knows this
Speaker 8: kind of stuff, like yeah, it's power, it is powerful,
Speaker 8: you know, it's uh, it's bonding.
Speaker 6: So have you had the opportunity to meet with the
Speaker 6: have you ran into people who were flat earthers?
Speaker 7: Fellow flat earthers not not?
Speaker 8: I mean, like I said, just just let's say even
Speaker 8: at work, you know working, you know, I do flooring,
Speaker 8: so I'm commonly like on jobs or whatever, and there's
Speaker 8: people there's definitely people people are waking up.
Speaker 9: I think. I think that's definitely happening.
Speaker 8: It's not. I find quite a few people just at
Speaker 8: work and dropping seeds, and I think I think the
Speaker 8: stuff is starting to get everywhere.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 8: It's not just you know, it's it's not hidden it
Speaker 8: it's kind of like on all these the TikTok and
Speaker 8: Instagram and this and that. I think I just hear
Speaker 8: candae Owns talking about flat Earth, which is kind of
Speaker 8: big yep, you know, talk Tucker, even Tucker like it's
Speaker 8: it's starting to to come out. I think the cats
Speaker 8: out of the bag. You know, it's just waking everybody
Speaker 8: else up.
Speaker 6: So do you think that might be part of the
Speaker 6: reason they're running with these two astronauts stranded in space?
Speaker 8: Come on, uh yeah, that's gotta be some they Yeah, man,
Speaker 8: it's it's it's everything's it's it is confusing.
Speaker 9: But yeah, no, I don't think anybody's stuck in space.
Speaker 8: I think you know, they're getting you emotionally invested, h
Speaker 8: just like all these other you know syops that they've
Speaker 8: don't So, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 6: You know, they're they're sitting in some break room in Hollywood,
Speaker 6: drinking coffee, laughing at us, and much of it is mockery.
Speaker 6: I've come to believe that as well. They do it
Speaker 6: in our face and they laugh about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you you know, I can't remember which one
Speaker 8: it was, but uh, one of the rocket launches and
Speaker 8: they they're they're quoting from the Bible.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's that's straight mockery. So indeed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you had mentioned all the civilizations before, the Mayans,
Speaker 6: the Navajos, the Incas, the Norse, the Celtics, Egyptians, all
Speaker 6: of them, many more, all believed what we see and
Speaker 6: what we feel. And then I think they really when
Speaker 6: the printing press and these things came along where they
Speaker 6: were able to, you know, force their version of what's
Speaker 6: going on on people. They I think they saw how
Speaker 6: easily people were manipulated, and things just got easier as
Speaker 6: the like radio came along, then TV came along, and
Speaker 6: people became more and more manipulative, if you will, And
Speaker 6: the way when you go back and look at TV
Speaker 6: shows from the fifties and how they dropped space and
Speaker 6: there's globes in every picture, you can see this as
Speaker 6: a long running plan and it's one of the great
Speaker 6: Ponzi schemes of all time. Again, seventy million dollars a day,
Speaker 6: challenger blows up, they get another, you know what, two
Speaker 6: or three billion dollars the next day, and of course
Speaker 6: who's going to question it. And now, like we were
Speaker 6: just talking about the recent story Astro Nott stuck in
Speaker 6: space and even within the last few hours this I
Speaker 6: forget maybe somewhere in Europe this you know, asteroid or
Speaker 6: meteor came flying across the sky and all of these things.
Speaker 6: And you know, the man always has an explanation for
Speaker 6: these things. But what I tell people is we we
Speaker 6: as humans, we can't we can't comprehend God's creation.
Speaker 9: We just can't, right, right, And that's.
Speaker 7: The hardest part of when people ask these questions.
Speaker 6: If we can't answer everything, they always default back to
Speaker 6: the ball uh. And again, like we we said the
Speaker 6: last show, most of the people who you ask, who
Speaker 6: are diehard glovers who won't give you the time of
Speaker 6: day about flat Earth. They can't tell you anything about
Speaker 6: how you know how fast the Earth is spinning, or
Speaker 6: how far away the Sun is or any of that nonsense.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you know, I I bought I
Speaker 8: bought one of the P nine fifty digit. Yeah that's
Speaker 8: the whole it's so yeah, I bought a pen nine fifty.
Speaker 8: I've been to the beach. I got the videos of
Speaker 8: the ships, you know, obviously not going over the curve right.
Speaker 8: And I'll I'll tell you even here when I'm when
Speaker 8: I'm driving to work Route three, I mean, anybody else
Speaker 8: that's driving to work on Route three, you know, the
Speaker 8: sun comes up and so many mornings I have taken
Speaker 8: pictures with right off the iPhone too, not even the
Speaker 8: P nine fifty, but with with clouds wrapped around the
Speaker 8: sun like it's plain as day. And then they, you know,
Speaker 8: they tell you that this song is I don't even
Speaker 8: how far away is the son again?
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, so you.
Speaker 8: Know, just it it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 9: And I got friends.
Speaker 8: I can show them these pictures, and they they're still
Speaker 8: in denial, you know. They they think it's some kind
Speaker 8: of illusion or it's just crazy to me. And and
Speaker 8: you could do the same thing with the moon and
Speaker 8: you and you could show these people pictures with clouds
Speaker 8: wrapped around it. I've seen plenty of videos now, even
Speaker 8: on YouTube, and and I don't you know what what
Speaker 8: else do you need to prove that these things are
Speaker 8: are are local and they're they're not what we've been told.
Speaker 6: When you yourself and myself, when we share this type
Speaker 6: of undeniable information with people and they even refuse to
Speaker 6: acknowledge it, how frustrating is that?
Speaker 9: It's very frustrating.
Speaker 8: It's that's that's like it's a lot of my friends,
Speaker 8: you know, they they refuse some I got one that
Speaker 8: refuses to to watch any of the videos or anything
Speaker 8: that I'll send to him, you know what I mean, Uh, documentaries,
Speaker 8: you know, things like that.
Speaker 9: You know, so they I don't think they want to know.
Speaker 8: I I don't think they want to know.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's about them, you know.
Speaker 8: I I think there's something with with certain people where
Speaker 8: they they it's too much I think, you know, for
Speaker 8: them to get over that kind of lie or something.
Speaker 6: So do you think it's that Do you think it's
Speaker 6: they're they're just so comfortable in their life and that
Speaker 6: they're happy with the Sunday football and the movies and
Speaker 6: the TV. Do you think some people just don't want
Speaker 6: to get out of their comfort zone that maybe in
Speaker 6: the back of their head they know that it would
Speaker 6: up up, you know, just kind of upset the way
Speaker 6: they live and they're how they perceive reality.
Speaker 8: Like ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 7: As well said I could have just said.
Speaker 8: That, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 9: You know, and I think it's that.
Speaker 8: And I think other people they don't have the time,
Speaker 8: you know, And even if they don't care, I think
Speaker 8: there's these other people out there that just don't.
Speaker 9: They don't care.
Speaker 8: You know, even if it you always get the so
Speaker 8: what if it what if it was flat? You know,
Speaker 8: you get that a lot too. And it's not about right,
Speaker 8: it's not about the shape. It's it's about the lie.
Speaker 8: So some people just I guess they don't care.
Speaker 6: How long did it take you to realize what the
Speaker 6: lie was actually about? Like you're like, wow, okay, it
Speaker 6: is flat, But then how long did it take for
Speaker 6: you to understand that this was about hiding God man?
Speaker 8: Like I said, I I dove into this probably right
Speaker 8: around three years ago.
Speaker 9: During COVID.
Speaker 8: I bet I think it was I probably not long.
Speaker 8: I mean, if if I realized, you know, maybe it
Speaker 8: took me three weeks to a month, I would probably
Speaker 8: say by the second month, I've seen enough to know,
Speaker 8: you know, what the game plan was and and I
Speaker 8: see you see what they're doing today and with all
Speaker 8: these music videos Mike got the Olympics. Have you talked
Speaker 8: about the Olympics yet?
Speaker 7: Briefly?
Speaker 6: The opening ceremony was very satanic, the closing satanic money
Speaker 6: with Satanic. We had a breakdancer from Australia that is
Speaker 6: still an ever living name just I didn't watch a
Speaker 6: second of it, but you couldn't help it. But see
Speaker 6: the images and videos of once again openly mocking God
Speaker 6: and holding up Satan. All of it was just crazy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I it's it's it's completely insane, and I think
Speaker 10: I think they're trying to normalize.
Speaker 8: All this transgender things and that's why it's like in
Speaker 8: the schools. Now, have you did you see you've seen
Speaker 8: Fallow the Cabal.
Speaker 7: Right, Yes, yeah, that she died too and back in December.
Speaker 9: But was that suicide?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 6: I don't know if I ever followed up or I'll
Speaker 6: have to do some research and to find out even
Speaker 6: if they disclosed what it was.
Speaker 7: But yeah, she put a lot of work into that series.
Speaker 8: Right right, and I thought it was great, the Fall
Speaker 8: of the Cabal. So with all this, I don't know, it's
Speaker 8: it's all this pedophilia stuff and and the transgend it
Speaker 8: it all goes I guess, you know, hand in hand
Speaker 8: and the adrenic this adrenic chrome. I it's so I
Speaker 8: I look for all this stuff. I've seen such a
Speaker 8: collage on one of these videos. Now where in all
Speaker 8: these Disney the movies, these cartoons. What is the element
Speaker 8: number for the adrenal chrome. It's like one fifteen or
Speaker 8: something like that, Right, it's a chemical compound number.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I remember, so I can pull it up here in
Speaker 6: about three seconds here.
Speaker 8: But they they got they got that number. I can't
Speaker 8: remember exactly what it is hidden on in in a
Speaker 8: ton of these Disney movies, you know, along with the
Speaker 8: symbols for for the pedophilia and it's it's disgusting. And
Speaker 8: here's I don't know if anybody's ever talked about this,
Speaker 8: but I know that they use that word though, is
Speaker 8: for you know, pizza, the pizza parties, and then you
Speaker 8: have you know, I think hot dog is another one.
Speaker 9: Which maybe means little boys or something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, remember is that's what the White House ordered when
Speaker 6: during the Obama's time.
Speaker 9: Right, So I used to watch.
Speaker 8: I was I think it was just Mickey Mouse or
Speaker 8: whatever it was Nick Junior or Disney Junior or something
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 9: And and it didn't hit me until just recently, like.
Speaker 8: They have the whole hot Dog dance as the intro
Speaker 8: to that show.
Speaker 7: Oh that's right, the hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog.
Speaker 7: That it's going to be special. My head, My daughter
Speaker 7: watch that all the time.
Speaker 9: There you go.
Speaker 8: So, yeah, that's and and when when I think about it, now,
Speaker 8: you know, I'm wondering, is is this that?
Speaker 9: Is that mockery too?
Speaker 6: So according to this story, it's the number one thirteen
Speaker 6: and uh it states that it was in at least
Speaker 6: twenty three Pixar movies.
Speaker 8: Wow. Yeah, so it's it's on a pizza truck in
Speaker 8: the one of Them, and uh and and and even
Speaker 8: the movie for Monsters Inc. That's you know that to me,
Speaker 8: that they got those vials filled with the red stuff
Speaker 8: and it's you know, here, here's these monsters that are
Speaker 8: scaring the ever be Jesus out of these little kids.
Speaker 9: And I think that it's that movie's about adrenakral. It's
Speaker 9: right in your face.
Speaker 6: If you want to see something real crazy, go watch
Speaker 6: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang from I think nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 6: when they're when they're holding off kids in the back.
Speaker 7: Of a train.
Speaker 9: Wait, what what is it.
Speaker 6: It's called Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. It's from nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 6: Dick Vandyke was in it, and a lot of very
Speaker 6: famous people, and I went, you know, I saw it
Speaker 6: as a kid in probably seventy five, seventy six.
Speaker 7: I remember seeing it.
Speaker 6: It's but when you see this crazy guy driving off
Speaker 6: with kids in the back, you know, locked up, you
Speaker 6: don't have to look very hard and you'll see just
Speaker 6: put in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, conspiracy or anything like that,
Speaker 6: and it's all.
Speaker 7: Kinds of story. The story behind the movie.
Speaker 6: And it's interesting is the guy who wrote and directed,
Speaker 6: James Bond, wrote this one, Ian Fleming. He wrote Chitty
Speaker 6: Chitty Bang Bang, and was like the associate producer.
Speaker 9: On it, no kidding, Yeah, it's it's just crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 9: oh my god.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And you know, but these things are real. You know.
Speaker 6: When they had the DNC last week, again, I didn't
Speaker 6: watch it, but I saw photos of Oprah Winfrey. She
Speaker 6: looks like she's thirty five years old. It looks like
Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton regressed about thirty five years, and you know,
Speaker 6: the Rothchilds and all these people, they go on to live,
Speaker 6: you know, to be ninety nine hundred and two, like
Speaker 6: it's nothing. The guy from the World Economic Forum, Soros,
Speaker 6: all these people, they just live. They seem to live
Speaker 6: an entire generation longer than we do.
Speaker 7: Right, you know, my dad died.
Speaker 6: At seventy four, and it just seems that there is
Speaker 6: a very wide gap between them and us, if you will.
Speaker 9: Of course, yeah, I think they got better doctors.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm sure they have some secrets too.
Speaker 6: They probably don't use microwaves and some other things that
Speaker 6: that they continuously use to poison us.
Speaker 8: Right, right, do you do you think that that is Hillary?
Speaker 9: Like you you've heard.
Speaker 6: Side, I saw the infamous video of her when she
Speaker 6: was walking out to her car and she collapsed and
Speaker 6: they like literally had to throw her in there. And like,
Speaker 6: do I believe they have the ability to clone?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of disclosure in Hollywood as well.
Speaker 6: I do think they do, whether or not, you know,
Speaker 6: I don't buy the whole You know, Bill Gates was
Speaker 6: executed down in Guantanamo Bay on April eighteenth, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 6: and they have a clone. I don't believe that, but
Speaker 6: I do believe that maybe, just maybe, the very very
Speaker 6: few in power do have the ability, let's just say,
Speaker 6: to create characters and to make backup characters in case
Speaker 6: one of them has a defect or I don't know,
Speaker 6: gets hit by a car or maybe there's what's to
Speaker 6: say and listen, I'm just grabbing here, But what's to say?
Speaker 6: There wasn't some guy who in named that city took
Speaker 6: out a certain individual and they just had another clone
Speaker 6: that got rid of that guy.
Speaker 7: And if you control the media, that story never gets out.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Epstein thing was more about that
Speaker 6: than it was about what they tell us.
Speaker 9: It was, Yeah, we still don't even have a list, right.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, you'll you you'll never see that. And
Speaker 6: all this stuff with Trump saying that they're going to
Speaker 6: release the JFK files.
Speaker 7: He said that last. All of it is.
Speaker 6: Theater to make you believe that, uh, if you just
Speaker 6: vote for this team, thing is going to work out better.
Speaker 6: We've been doing this for two hundred and fifty years
Speaker 6: and we've just continually and steadily declined.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, I I jumped on the on the
Speaker 8: Trump train.
Speaker 9: I guess for a while. That's kind of another reason
Speaker 9: how I got here.
Speaker 8: I guess because I had one friend just heavy into
Speaker 8: into the politics and Trump and barking, barking into my ear.
Speaker 9: I never I don't.
Speaker 8: I never voted.
Speaker 9: I've only voted once, but I never cared, you know
Speaker 9: what I mean.
Speaker 8: So I always felt like, somehow, some way that it
Speaker 8: was a scam. But I don't know, one of my
Speaker 8: best friends just just chirp and shirp and chirp, and
Speaker 8: probably probably around like the George Floyd riots or when
Speaker 8: things were burning down.
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, let me take a look,
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: But uh and and I did. I I kind of
Speaker 8: jumped on on the Trump train for a while. I
Speaker 8: got I had like.
Speaker 9: A little political awakening.
Speaker 8: And man, and then I would watch Talker, you know,
Speaker 8: and uh and and even like the Q stuff, and
Speaker 8: and I got into I got into like a lot
Speaker 8: of that stuff. But uh one what then, let's see,
Speaker 8: I guess like COVID, I never got vaccinated. I tried to,
Speaker 8: you know, warn as many people as I could, but
Speaker 8: a lot a lot of my friends got vaccinated, A
Speaker 8: lot of them. So I mean some some now have cancer.
Speaker 8: Uh so, and I always, I always, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I looked at that that's the vaccine, like I do
Speaker 8: I think it gives you cancer. I don't know, but
Speaker 8: I think it. I think it accelerates it, you know,
Speaker 8: I think it brings out something that was coming anyway.
Speaker 9: That's just my take on it.
Speaker 8: And you know it's it's yeah, it's horrible and that
Speaker 8: that's the one thing you know with I guess with
Speaker 8: the Trump thing that I can never get past was
Speaker 8: uh because he's still.
Speaker 9: He still brags about it today. What you know, how
Speaker 9: I don't know, like, how how are.
Speaker 8: You still standing by uh, this vaccine even today? You know,
Speaker 8: with all with you know, all the data that we have.
Speaker 8: Now have you ever been to the website that died suddenly? Yes,
Speaker 8: it's unbelievable. Ye so, but yeah, so I I guess,
Speaker 8: I guess, you know, with the political awakening and then
Speaker 8: and then the COVID thing, which thank god, I never felt.
Speaker 8: I never fell for that, and and that's it, and
Speaker 8: that's that's how I got I really started to get
Speaker 8: get into all these things.
Speaker 9: And once you start peeling one back, it keeps going.
Speaker 7: But I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, you're you're rocking and rolling.
Speaker 6: You just triggered something else because you had mentioned at
Speaker 6: the very beginning we were talking about algorithms, and I
Speaker 6: want everybody to try this.
Speaker 7: I want you to just go to Google and put
Speaker 7: in died suddenly. You'll get in.
Speaker 6: You'll you'll get the documentary from twenty twenty two. But
Speaker 6: after that you'll see from the Anti Defamation League it's
Speaker 6: a COVID nineteen, anti COVID nineteen vaccine film, and it's
Speaker 6: everything else that we've talked about today.
Speaker 7: Uh that the X.
Speaker 6: The anti vaccine documentary, you know, and it's just negative
Speaker 6: after negative after negative and then but at the same time,
Speaker 6: right when they tell you how anti conspiracy and how
Speaker 6: harmful this website and the movie they did in twenty
Speaker 6: twenty two is if you click on news, you will
Speaker 6: see story after story after story of people who have
Speaker 6: died suddenly. So you click on Google, all it'll tell
Speaker 6: you how evil died suddenly is you click on news
Speaker 6: just one space over all of these people died suddenly,
Speaker 6: and it's just you can't make.
Speaker 9: This stuff up. No, no, you can't.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's crazy, it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 6: And how did COVID how did it affect you from
Speaker 6: when it started in March twenty twenty, did maybe some
Speaker 6: of the fear? You know, at what point did I
Speaker 6: guess the proper way to ask it is, what point
Speaker 6: did you realize that it was more about a flu
Speaker 6: than it was and of course what you thought about
Speaker 6: the vaccine, which you've already kind of spoke on, But
Speaker 6: where did you kind of realize that this is not
Speaker 6: what they say it is.
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, I was definitely, I was definitely
Speaker 8: freaked out in the beginning because I guess I don't
Speaker 8: know if if I if I was seeing this clearly,
Speaker 8: you know, obviously I wasn't in the beginning. I guess
Speaker 8: I had my thoughts about it, but I mean, I
Speaker 8: don't think it took too long before I knew that
Speaker 8: this it was just for fear.
Speaker 9: It was just fear factor.
Speaker 8: But people were dying, you know, so it was kind
Speaker 8: of I guess it was just a little confusing in
Speaker 8: the beginning.
Speaker 9: Of the thing.
Speaker 8: But my suck, My my brother passed away during COVID.
Speaker 8: He he had he had cancer. This is this is
Speaker 8: just bad luck. And he he you know, stayed low,
Speaker 8: he did all the things that he had to do,
Speaker 8: worked from home or whatever. He probably went through this
Speaker 8: thing for almost eight months to a year from when
Speaker 8: it started and he went in, he had the surgery
Speaker 8: done and everything went well, and I guess it was
Speaker 8: either on his way in the car is what we think.
Speaker 8: I'm not even gonna go into details, but whatever, and
Speaker 8: or you know, in the hospital and he got COVID
Speaker 8: and he and that's you know, he had nothing to
Speaker 8: fight with. And this is during you know, they had
Speaker 8: him on the ventilator and even then, you know, I
Speaker 8: knew I had a bad feeling that this was going
Speaker 8: to be it. And you know, there was a part
Speaker 8: of me that wanted to go break him out because
Speaker 8: you know, when you're on that ventilator, I felt like
Speaker 8: that that was a wrap. Yes, so yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 8: it's just it was just.
Speaker 9: Bad luck for him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you you had mentioned that when you were in
Speaker 6: your early thirties, I think you got hurt in an
Speaker 6: accent if I remember you got hurting an accident, and
Speaker 6: then you were I guess used a painkiller and that
Speaker 6: was something that you struggled with and that was something
Speaker 6: that really led you to God.
Speaker 7: Am I right there?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, so I was on uh, I mean after
Speaker 8: the pain killer days, but I stay, I stayed on
Speaker 8: in medication for a while.
Speaker 9: It was called suboxin.
Speaker 8: And when I basically I got hurt at work, so
Speaker 8: I had a six I had a six week window
Speaker 8: and you know, I, I was married, I had my kid.
Speaker 8: It was something, it was something I wanted to do,
Speaker 8: was to get off the medication. And yeah, I think
Speaker 8: that's that's when I'm I'll call it more of a
Speaker 8: spiritual awakening, I guess is when I when I was
Speaker 8: coming off of that medication, that that's kind of when
Speaker 8: I mean it sucked number one and number two. I
Speaker 8: just I guess I found myself, you know, praying, praying
Speaker 8: more to God because because you know, you definitely feel
Speaker 8: feel pretty crappy, you know, for for quite some time.
Speaker 8: And I and I was on it for for a
Speaker 8: very long time. But oh God, so during during that time,
Speaker 8: I got I gotta try and piece this all together.
Speaker 8: And remember, you know the timelines for this. But I
Speaker 8: guess basically this might sound nuts or whatever. You know,
Speaker 8: people say they see like the eleven eleven thing on
Speaker 8: the box. Okay, that's that's what was happening. Like I
Speaker 8: kept seeing eleven eleven's. Uh it's it seemed like all
Speaker 8: the time. Now this is before, this is back before.
Speaker 8: I don't know anything about anything. You know, back then,
Speaker 8: I'm still a UFO idiot. And basically, let's see, I
Speaker 8: guess I was on YouTube one night and I realized
Speaker 8: something popped up. I wasn't even looking for any of
Speaker 8: this stuff, but it had something to do with it,
Speaker 8: like angels whatever. You know, maybe somebody from the spirit
Speaker 8: world is trying to you know, pokey or say hello
Speaker 8: whatever with the the eleven eleven numbers and things like that.
Speaker 8: So I think back then, I went actually went to
Speaker 8: a psychic medium to see what was going on. And
Speaker 8: you know, it actually when I went there that she
Speaker 8: she actually said a lot of things that I don't
Speaker 8: think anybody else would know.
Speaker 9: There's no way she could know.
Speaker 8: And and I don't know, I guess it was kind
Speaker 8: of it was kind of like a good thing, you know,
Speaker 8: at that time. I was still going through I guess,
Speaker 8: the coming off of that stuff at that same time.
Speaker 8: So all right, so this one's kind of crazy. Then
Speaker 8: I had to take care of like grave blankets for
Speaker 8: for my family, you know, my family lives down basically
Speaker 8: down to shore.
Speaker 9: Now I'm still up north.
Speaker 8: My grandmother, my aunt, my uncle, a bunch of my
Speaker 8: family members are are in George Washington Cemetery.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 8: So I mentioned this to my wife. I said, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna go, and you know, I'm gonna do the grave blankets.
Speaker 8: And when she realized, you know, I'm going to George
Speaker 8: Washington Cemetery, that she she had a cousin that died
Speaker 8: when he was maybe sixteen, you know, on a on
Speaker 8: a quad accident. And she said, my cousin, you know,
Speaker 8: is buried in that same cemetery, which I thought was
Speaker 8: kind of weird.
Speaker 9: So we. I go to.
Speaker 8: So I bring flowers and she's like about bringing it,
Speaker 8: you know, to to his grave. Also, I get this map,
Speaker 8: you know, like you go to a graveyard, I guess,
Speaker 8: and they give you a map. I haven't been there
Speaker 8: in years.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah, these tombstones are are located. And it turns out
Speaker 8: that are my my family, you know, basically is is
Speaker 8: buried like right next to his grave. There's only there's
Speaker 8: like a sidewalk thing right that splits up my family
Speaker 8: and then and then part of her family, which we
Speaker 8: had no clue as I'm looking at the gravestone. My
Speaker 8: grandmother died on October thirteenth, My wife's birthday is October thirteenth.
Speaker 9: And we got married.
Speaker 8: This is really weird on December thirteenth, which turned out
Speaker 8: to be my grandfather and my dad's sides birthday.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, it's a lot of weird.
Speaker 9: It's just weird. I mean, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: What there's some serious numerology going on there with numbers.
Speaker 9: It's a lot of thirteens.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like, you know, that's umber I tried
Speaker 8: to stay away from, but it was like unavoidable. So yeah,
Speaker 8: something something with the thirteen or whatever. And uh, and
Speaker 8: I believe, I believe Rob Skiva has nothing to do
Speaker 8: with anything. Uh.
Speaker 9: He also died on October thirteenth, so that's.
Speaker 7: Right, You're right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, It's just it's just a weird.
Speaker 8: Story because I don't know how our families got so close,
Speaker 8: like in the in a graveyard like that, and we
Speaker 8: didn't even know it was you know.
Speaker 9: So it's just very odd to me. But I don't
Speaker 9: have to.
Speaker 6: Go back and see what what significant events took place
Speaker 6: on that date October thirteenth, because there are some dates
Speaker 6: like that. July twentieth is a very significant day that
Speaker 6: so many things have happened on, and August fourth is
Speaker 6: the other one. October thirteenth, and I'm just breezing through here.
Speaker 6: The Knights of the Templar, the famous day that they
Speaker 6: were arrested. A lot of things happen on that date.
Speaker 6: And obviously there's only three hundred and sixty five day.
Speaker 6: There's been a million days throughout history, but just breezing
Speaker 6: through real quick, there's been a lot of significant things
Speaker 6: that happened on that date. And I'll link this in
Speaker 6: the show notes and on the website as well, So
Speaker 6: if you want to take the time and look through.
Speaker 7: By all means, check it out. It's a plethora of information.
Speaker 7: My goodness.
Speaker 8: Sure sure, And I got I got on the like
Speaker 8: kind of weird one too. Was so when my son
Speaker 8: was born.
Speaker 9: My wife told me, she's like I had a dream.
Speaker 8: She's like I could see him, Yeah, my son, you know,
Speaker 8: like in the womb, and he he was I don't know,
Speaker 8: like a light, you know, maybe the soul, you know,
Speaker 8: something like that.
Speaker 9: And I kind of just you know, blew it off
Speaker 9: or or whatever.
Speaker 8: But uh, maybe I don't know, three four days a
Speaker 8: week later, I had the same dream, you know, or vision,
Speaker 8: and and I you know, I'm not making this up,
Speaker 8: like I saw that. I don't even know if it
Speaker 8: was a dream, you know, but it felt it felt
Speaker 8: very real.
Speaker 9: This was obviously when she was pregnant.
Speaker 8: And the best way and I don't know if maybe
Speaker 8: somebody else had this type of experience or seeing this
Speaker 8: like in a dream or whatever, but the best way
Speaker 8: that I could describe it was almost like in in
Speaker 8: the womb, you could see a light. And and the
Speaker 8: best way is like if you take a flashlight and
Speaker 8: you put that flashlight up against your hand, and you
Speaker 8: know how you see through your hand, it's like very
Speaker 8: very red. That's that's kind of what I saw, you know,
Speaker 8: with with the light. That's what it looked like to me,
Speaker 8: like with the red or whatever. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 8: it was just another kind of compelling thing that someone
Speaker 8: never forget. Yeah, so I don't know if anybody else
Speaker 8: out there, that's amazing.
Speaker 6: I'm sure people will respond to that. It's it's God
Speaker 6: works some mysterious ways.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one thing that may do you know what happened
Speaker 6: on October thirteenth, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 7: No, no, AOC was born. Perfect, My goodness, gracious.
Speaker 9: That's funny. She's another one.
Speaker 8: Huh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you had mentioned your your journey during the day
Speaker 6: on New Jersey three. Do you actually work on Manhattan
Speaker 6: in New York?
Speaker 9: Sometimes?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean all over really in New Jersey.
Speaker 8: I haven't been over there in about a year at least,
Speaker 8: but I used to go over there quite a bit.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What I do know is is the cost of living
Speaker 6: up in your area is significantly higher than down here
Speaker 6: in Delaware. How have you seen this, this hyper inflation
Speaker 6: affect people, including yourself up there over the last twelve
Speaker 6: eighteen months.
Speaker 9: It's horrible, horrible.
Speaker 8: I would say, you know, normal apartments, even in my town.
Speaker 8: I used to be the ballpark, let's say let's say
Speaker 8: twelve hundred, okay, all those are over two thousand dollars,
Speaker 8: you know, easy, over two thousand dollars, you know.
Speaker 9: And then everything else from from the groceries.
Speaker 8: To everything everything. But yeah, the prices for homes and
Speaker 8: and everything like that is out of control, and they
Speaker 8: try to they're trying to raise all that the taxes
Speaker 8: you know a lot of these towns now, which you
Speaker 8: know is going to crush everybody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I get so many emails. People are going
Speaker 6: through very difficult times right now, especially older folk on
Speaker 6: fixed incomes, that they are having to choose between what
Speaker 6: expenditures they you know, whether or not they're going to
Speaker 6: pay the rent, be laid on rent so they can
Speaker 6: get their medicine be laid on that, so they can
Speaker 6: get their car paid, or insurance or you know, their
Speaker 6: their tax bill. It's really sad to see, especially at
Speaker 6: a time when we are passing out money, just hand
Speaker 6: over fist to everybody but the people of this country.
Speaker 8: Oh four, yeah, let everybody come in, you know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 9: I I think I think it makes everybody sick.
Speaker 8: I think everybody's you know, pretty enraged with this whole situation.
Speaker 8: It's kind of like they don't they don't want a
Speaker 8: middle class anymore.
Speaker 6: I know, they want the very few at the top
Speaker 6: and everybody else to be their servants, their serfs, right,
Speaker 6: for lack of a better word.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So I'm pretty.
Speaker 6: Kind of getting back to flat Earth and space and NASA.
Speaker 6: At what point did you ever broach the moon landing
Speaker 6: prior to getting into flat Earth, and what were your
Speaker 6: thoughts on that?
Speaker 8: So the so I used to think there was alien
Speaker 8: basis back on the backside of the dark side of
Speaker 8: the Moon, but uh no, one once I got once
Speaker 8: I got into the flatter stuff once, once it got
Speaker 8: pointed out that you know what, here's another bullet one
Speaker 8: is that there's no real real pictures, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean, And that that that threw up a huge
Speaker 8: red flag, and you know, you you start googling, and
Speaker 8: you're looking for just one real picture Earth, and I
Speaker 8: think the the only one that they have is actually
Speaker 8: a fake from one of the supposed moon landings, right,
Speaker 8: the one I guess buzz and them fake that one
Speaker 8: through the window.
Speaker 9: That's barts of brill, right exactly.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean you did, they don't have any
Speaker 8: any pictures and everything out there that's that's on there
Speaker 8: is is c g I in any you know, I
Speaker 8: even went back, I started watching you know, some of
Speaker 8: the older these ancient alien stuff, and it's true. It's
Speaker 8: like there's there's nothing, there's nothing out there that's that's
Speaker 8: actual photographic, uh, you know, real evidence. And it admitted
Speaker 8: that they don't have it so that you know, that's
Speaker 8: that was a red flag for me. But the moon,
Speaker 8: the moon landings, you know, they're all Freemasons, I think.
Speaker 8: But uh, I think his is right here in Montclair
Speaker 8: actually the lodge. I only live like fifteen minutes from there. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure that's that's where his is. But no,
Speaker 8: it didn't. It didn't take too too long to see
Speaker 8: that that it just dated. I let me ask you,
Speaker 8: what do you think I think the moon actually is.
Speaker 9: I think it can't.
Speaker 6: And again, no, no, you're fine. It's just you know,
Speaker 6: again to assume that I can figure out what it is.
Speaker 6: And again I go back to saying that I don't
Speaker 6: think we can really comprehend God's you know, creation, but
Speaker 6: just to kind of to to use worldly terms, I
Speaker 6: think it's probably some sort of plasma, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying that. And when it goes in deeper to
Speaker 6: the firmament is when it goes into a quarter moon,
Speaker 6: a half moon, and then as it comes back out
Speaker 6: it brings the full moon. I think that's why it
Speaker 6: gets dark. That's just what I feel. I think it
Speaker 6: goes deeper into the firmament itself. That's one we think
Speaker 6: it's actually like a physical like a rock type of thing.
Speaker 6: I think it's something that just God created to that
Speaker 6: gives us light at night, the lesser light, just as
Speaker 6: Genesis says, and it is able to move within the firmament,
Speaker 6: and it goes to what sightkes. And uh that's how
Speaker 6: I think, as it goes into the firmament, as it
Speaker 6: is moving around, not we moving around it. I think
Speaker 6: that's kind of what it is. Have you been able
Speaker 6: to do the moonlight experiment.
Speaker 8: Yourself, the moonshade? You mean, yeah, yeah, No, I have
Speaker 8: not done that. No, that's but that's a great I'm sure.
Speaker 8: I'm sure.
Speaker 6: Now with your camera, oh god, what kind of images
Speaker 6: have you been able to get?
Speaker 7: And what were your thoughts?
Speaker 8: They're the I think one of my first That's why
Speaker 8: I got the camera, you know. Number one, I got
Speaker 8: it to shut up a bunch of a bunch of
Speaker 8: my friends, you know what I mean. But uh, oh my,
Speaker 8: I have some of the you think I'm a professional
Speaker 8: photographer with some of the pictures that I actually have
Speaker 8: the moon from from using that camera, and I did
Speaker 8: you know, I put it on a tripod even even
Speaker 8: just standing in a driveway. You know, you gotta hold
Speaker 8: it real still, like when you zoom in like that.
Speaker 8: But but I I'm unbelievable pictures of the moon. Maybe
Speaker 8: I can send them to you and you could post
Speaker 8: them or whatever. Absolutely, but yeah, I I have some
Speaker 8: really good ones that I even. I did.
Speaker 9: I got a solar the solar lens, and I did.
Speaker 9: I got a lot of the.
Speaker 8: Sun, you know where you can you can see the
Speaker 8: sun spots on the sun.
Speaker 9: And then just but the moon.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you the moon pictures are are the best
Speaker 8: at of it.
Speaker 9: You'll be shocked when you when you see them.
Speaker 6: So have you been able to get a decent photo
Speaker 6: or view of of some of the stars and how
Speaker 6: they are portrayed, you know on TV versus how it's
Speaker 6: portrayed to us what they are supposed to look like.
Speaker 8: I haven't. I haven't done the stars yet. Okay, it
Speaker 8: just yeah, just I just did the moon. But yeah,
Speaker 8: that'll be My next is is the stars. And I've
Speaker 8: seen was uh was that Tyler? Yeah? He does a
Speaker 8: lot of those the star ones. And I see I've
Speaker 8: seen one video where he's got the face of his
Speaker 8: of his dog. I guess that that he sees in
Speaker 8: this star. I can't remember what star it was, but yeah,
Speaker 8: pretty pretty amazing stuff. So yeah, I mean I deferminent.
Speaker 8: I think is one hundred. I think what was that
Speaker 8: right after World War Two? I think it that's when
Speaker 8: they they found out. And I mean, do you think
Speaker 8: Musk is crashing this stuff into the firmanent on purpose?
Speaker 9: Or is he is he trying to wake people up?
Speaker 9: Or what do you think is going on there?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 6: I think everybody who's on the world stage is controlled
Speaker 6: and what his purpose is. He's been all over the
Speaker 6: place because when he first came out, everybody loathed him
Speaker 6: because how he kind of stole PayPal and did all
Speaker 6: these you know, for lack of better word, slimy business deals,
Speaker 6: and then he was he was the brain chip guy,
Speaker 6: and most people on the quote unquote right didn't like him.
Speaker 6: So you know, they say, if they need a hero,
Speaker 6: we will provide them with one. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: he takes over Twitter and he reinstates Alex Jones and
Speaker 6: he becomes the defender of free speech, and he creates
Speaker 6: Tesla and that's the new Hippus thing. Personally, I think
Speaker 6: that Tesla truck is like the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6: But I mean to each their own, but I you know,
Speaker 6: whether they're used for disclosure to lead us down at
Speaker 6: baron path to be a gatekeeper. I think only time
Speaker 6: will tell. I will tell you that he just announced,
Speaker 6: I think today, that he is going to launch something
Speaker 6: that quote unquote is supposed to rival YouTube. And again,
Speaker 6: I think all of this rob is just to keep
Speaker 6: track of us and to kind of get our social
Speaker 6: credit score together, you know, by what we post, by
Speaker 6: what we say, by what we like, what videos we like,
Speaker 6: what tweets we like. Right, if somebody says, you know,
Speaker 6: down with the World Economic Form and a tweet and
Speaker 6: you like it, your your credit score is going down, right,
Speaker 6: these type of things.
Speaker 7: All of this is data mining on our personal interest.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I got I gotta ask you this too.
Speaker 8: Chemtrails Okay out out here in New Jersey. Yeah, it's
Speaker 8: every It's just about every.
Speaker 9: Day, yep.
Speaker 8: I mean, and I don't know, I mean even again,
Speaker 8: driving to work in the morning, even driving home. I
Speaker 8: haven't seen like a nice blue sky in in quite
Speaker 8: a while. It's always just a haze, you know, a
Speaker 8: foggy looking kind of haze. They don't hide it anymore,
Speaker 8: you know, they put exes. It's funny because when I
Speaker 8: again and even getting into this, maybe it was two
Speaker 8: aprils ago, and somebody telling me about the chemtrails. They're
Speaker 8: at the mall, this, that, that and this, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: oh my god, like I'm into enough stuff, like you know.
Speaker 8: But then came the day I walked outside and I had,
Speaker 8: you know, two perfect perfect exes.
Speaker 9: In the sky.
Speaker 8: And and and I just been been paying attention to
Speaker 8: that that ever since then too.
Speaker 9: And they they literally just bombard us.
Speaker 8: It seems like every single day with these chemtrails now,
Speaker 8: So yeah.
Speaker 6: We get it bad a lot down here too. I
Speaker 6: will say that I do remember the other day, I
Speaker 6: think it was what is today Tuesday, so Sunday morning,
Speaker 6: when we went out to let the chickens out. I
Speaker 6: do recall my wife stopping and actually looking up. This
Speaker 6: really goes to what you were saying. She goes, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, look it's a blue sky. And it has
Speaker 6: been a while since we've seen a completely blue sky.
Speaker 6: But of course the next day that they were right
Speaker 6: back to brain. I guess they give us a day
Speaker 6: to breathe some air, and that's people got to realize
Speaker 6: that they're poisoning us from the air or water. Which,
Speaker 6: by the way, did you see that story in newsweek
Speaker 6: last week? They actually came out and admitted that the
Speaker 6: floride in people's drinking water is lowering their IQs.
Speaker 8: I didn't, I know, I did not see that.
Speaker 7: They just came out last week.
Speaker 6: It was a big story, and once again the conspiracy
Speaker 6: theorists were right. It was dropping people's IQs like five
Speaker 6: points the flooridated water, it's all of it is.
Speaker 8: Just even even if you don't drink it, you're showering
Speaker 8: in it, right yeah, yeah, all right, So that's all
Speaker 8: another thing like I I, you know, even paying attention
Speaker 8: to just health and trying to be a little more healthy.
Speaker 8: Actually just started buying Mountain Valley spring water and it
Speaker 8: comes into bottles, you know, and it's it's a little
Speaker 8: more expensive. It's not in plastic, you know. I've just
Speaker 8: been trying to drink not out of plastic bottles, I
Speaker 8: guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a petroleum byproduct.
Speaker 9: What's that?
Speaker 7: Plastic is a petroleum byproduct?
Speaker 8: Right? Right? But this this, I mean from what I
Speaker 8: hear this Mountain valley comes, it comes in glass.
Speaker 9: It is supposed to be one of the better waters
Speaker 9: out there for drinking.
Speaker 8: And even even just like the health stuff, like I
Speaker 8: started paying attention to Barbara O'Neill, she's I mean, I
Speaker 8: you know, found found a lot of her stuff that
Speaker 8: was out there on TikTok was the other one, doctor Sebbi.
Speaker 8: It's little things like, you know, even even with all
Speaker 8: these people with these cancers, and I don't know not
Speaker 8: I'm not saying you're gonna beat it with these at
Speaker 8: home you know, natural things or whatever, but I think
Speaker 8: there's things that they could be doing to up chances
Speaker 8: and with with these fruits and and just all cut
Speaker 8: plants and and different, uh you know, different things which
Speaker 8: I got the barber.
Speaker 9: You know, one of the health books or whatever.
Speaker 8: So I started making my own cough flu stuff at
Speaker 8: a like garlic and lemons and honey.
Speaker 9: Just the whole flu bombs, homemade blue bombs.
Speaker 7: That's what we have.
Speaker 6: And you know, somebody put her on my radar recently,
Speaker 6: and as soon as I read the first two sentences
Speaker 6: of her Wikipedia, I knew she was legit because it
Speaker 6: basically says she's I think she's from Australia, but she's
Speaker 6: in New England now and she's an alternative healthcare promoter
Speaker 6: and she advertises unsupported health practices that are dangerous as
Speaker 6: noted by the scientific community.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, yep, she's good, she's on she gets it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know that is somebody who is exposed
Speaker 6: in science and the very first thing they do is
Speaker 6: things like this. She's just an evil person. She hasn't
Speaker 6: followed the Rockefeller medical standards. Therefore she is not capable
Speaker 6: of getting solid guidance to people. And it's just not the.
Speaker 8: Case, right right, Yeah, anybody, anybody trying to do good,
Speaker 8: I feel like they just get rid of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, look at Stanley Meyer. Here's I mean, if
Speaker 6: just think about how this could have changed the world.
Speaker 6: Here's a guy, and there's been more who created an
Speaker 6: engine that could run on water, any kind of water,
Speaker 6: salt water, you name it, and he could go from
Speaker 6: one side of the country to the other. And they
Speaker 6: killed him. Just think how it could have changed. But
Speaker 6: because of the elites and how they run things. I
Speaker 6: hate using that term elites, but the powers that be right,
Speaker 6: how they say, well, you know, if this comes to
Speaker 6: be it's going to ruin an entire industry.
Speaker 7: But they they always say.
Speaker 6: Well, it's for the greater good, because if things would
Speaker 6: would come to pass, it would destroy the oil industry,
Speaker 6: and America's dollars built on the oil industry. So you know,
Speaker 6: taking out the Stanley Meyer is for the greater good,
Speaker 6: and that's how they justify this evil.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think I think just like a year, like
Speaker 8: I don't know, maybe a year ago, pretty pretty recently,
Speaker 8: another the same thing. A guy with a patent for
Speaker 8: for a water engine, some kind of water engine.
Speaker 9: He was from Buffalo.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was killed in the top shooting.
Speaker 8: It was like a right mass shooting at a I
Speaker 8: don't know, like a Walmart or something.
Speaker 7: Hell top sques store.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that was pretty pretty recent.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm trying to think I have wrote I
Speaker 8: wrote a couple of little notes here, but one of
Speaker 8: one of my other ones is that back onto the
Speaker 8: fermanent all right, the Werner von Braun tombstone. Okay, that
Speaker 8: that that was that kind of spoke volumes to me
Speaker 8: that that he had that on his tombstone.
Speaker 9: And then and then back to back to the Disney stuff.
Speaker 8: Is yeah, in the in the I mean, I guess
Speaker 8: Walt Disney, Werner von Braun, they were very good friends.
Speaker 8: And then when you when you get to that, every
Speaker 8: the beginning of every Disney movie.
Speaker 9: They they show you the dome, Yeah.
Speaker 7: The firmament, A little twinkle from the Walt Disney left right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you know it's yeah, I guess I I
Speaker 8: guess I can when I watch these things now, and
Speaker 8: and even cartoons with my kid, and and I I
Speaker 8: can't even really watch a lot of these movies anymore.
Speaker 8: And just knowing what most of the movie stars are
Speaker 8: with all this this you know, this six stuff and
Speaker 8: this the Satanic stuff and the adrenochrome to the panda eyes,
Speaker 8: and then you see all these pictures of the different
Speaker 8: celebrities with the panda. It's just I can't even watch
Speaker 8: it anymore because it disgusts me.
Speaker 9: It's it's very hard to watch, but.
Speaker 6: It is sometimes it's interesting to watch, as when you
Speaker 6: go back and you find things that you never saw
Speaker 6: before when you kind of watched it when you were
Speaker 6: a zombie, dead asleep, and you say, oh, look there's
Speaker 6: the number thirty three. Oh there's a globe, there's a
Speaker 6: flat earth map, you do. It is fine to cut.
Speaker 7: It's kind of fun to hunt these things as you're
Speaker 7: watching the old movies.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, and it's everywhere.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 8: I think that Back to the Future, Uh, the nine
Speaker 8: to eleven references in that movie are are pretty crazy.
Speaker 9: So in which movie Back to the Future?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, the one one nine upside down
Speaker 6: and there's.
Speaker 9: Tons of wind peaks yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then the car when the car takes off,
Speaker 8: what is it like a nine or something on one
Speaker 8: of the buildings, and then the car puts the eleven
Speaker 8: in the flames yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: And by the way, before I forget, his name was
Speaker 6: Aaron Salter Junior. And it's interesting once again if you
Speaker 6: put his name to Google, the very first story is
Speaker 6: Salter's buffalo slaying was unrelated to his work on water
Speaker 6: powered engines.
Speaker 7: The very first.
Speaker 8: Story didn't didn't a plane just go down with yes,
Speaker 8: a bunch of cancer scientists or something?
Speaker 7: Just yep?
Speaker 9: What was that was last week?
Speaker 7: Right within the last two weeks for sure? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Right, okay, yeah, yeah, you're doing good your debt.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy. That was August okay, August twelfth.
Speaker 6: Eight doctors among sixty two killed in Brazil and Brazil's
Speaker 6: plane crash.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 6: Once again they were probably getting close. And you can't
Speaker 6: touch the medical industrial complex.
Speaker 8: Right right, right? No, they if they carried cancer, that
Speaker 8: put a lot of people out of work.
Speaker 6: And it goes against their very first role on the
Speaker 6: Georgia guidestones, right keeping humanity under five hundred million.
Speaker 9: Right, yep, that's what it's about.
Speaker 8: They blew that up, and that that was another thing.
Speaker 8: I guess that that proves the flat earth, right because
Speaker 8: you could see the North Star through through one of
Speaker 8: the holes or something that they had there, right.
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, the georgiadstone.
Speaker 9: It never moved right right, So.
Speaker 7: Again thinking back, how why didn't we see that first?
Speaker 6: Like we're hurling, we're spinning, but that one star never moves.
Speaker 8: That's that's how I try to explain it to my friends.
Speaker 8: You know, I think there's a little mina that comes
Speaker 8: up on the iPhone and it has the ball everything's
Speaker 8: spinning and flying through the universe, and and I'm like,
Speaker 8: don't you guys think that if this is going on
Speaker 8: and I don't even.
Speaker 9: Know how many miles prow we're going or whatever, it.
Speaker 8: Is, But don't you think we would have hit something
Speaker 8: by now, you know, or or anything that's spinning around
Speaker 8: us like and we we would have hit something, you know.
Speaker 8: And I try to explain even how how you know
Speaker 8: these star as still align with some of the pyramids
Speaker 8: and it's this, you know, it's the same the same
Speaker 8: cycles year the year after year, nothing nothing changes. How
Speaker 8: do you how do you account for that if if
Speaker 8: we're moving, you know, moving a zillion miles an hour
Speaker 8: through the universe every day. So yep, and the clock,
Speaker 8: I don't know if I'm gonna say this right in Prague?
Speaker 7: Yep, that's right?
Speaker 9: Is that right?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Check, yeah, that that thing is unbelievable. And that's very old, correct.
Speaker 7: Uh jeez?
Speaker 6: The astronomical clock, Yeah, that's five five or I think
Speaker 6: it's close to six hundred years old.
Speaker 8: And and so what I've seen, I've seen something on
Speaker 8: this clock too that you know they say that, I mean,
Speaker 8: it doesn't but the eclipse, when we have these eclipses,
Speaker 8: that has nothing to do with the moon, I believe
Speaker 8: on that clock, what do they call it, nodes? They
Speaker 8: call them nodes. They're like invisible you know, luminaries, or
Speaker 8: whatever you want to call it, that come into eclipse
Speaker 8: and that's what's actually eclipsing the moon. It has I mean,
Speaker 8: you know, eclipsing the sun. It has nothing to do
Speaker 8: with the moon. I think that that those are on
Speaker 8: that clock, like then they can be tracked on that clock.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think you're right.
Speaker 6: And I just it's built in fourteen ten, so six
Speaker 6: hundred and fourteen years old, the third oldest clock in
Speaker 6: the world, and the oldest clock is still in operation.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Do you dive into the all the tartaria stuff.
Speaker 6: Man, I've been saying this for two years that I'm
Speaker 6: going to and I just it's not that it doesn't
Speaker 6: interest me because they're are a lot of things, especially
Speaker 6: with the Worldfairs that don't make any sense where especially
Speaker 6: the Chicago Worldfare was at eighteen ninety something, and they
Speaker 6: would build almost entire.
Speaker 7: Cities and then just destroy them.
Speaker 6: And then if you really you know, there's something else
Speaker 6: that really needs to be looking to is all these
Speaker 6: bell towers that have gone away and with the vibrations,
Speaker 6: and there's old videos and pictures and images of people
Speaker 6: being next to or even inside of bells that it's
Speaker 6: supposed to have some type of healing power from the vibrations,
Speaker 6: and that takes you back into Megahertz and Tesla and
Speaker 6: how he had knowledge that was suppressed and it's just
Speaker 6: a never ending rabbit hole. And I'm so afraid if
Speaker 6: I step into this one that it's going to consume me,
Speaker 6: because you know, my lunch break and John Levi, I
Speaker 6: think his name is so many people have very good
Speaker 6: episodes that show how you know, it feels like a lot.
Speaker 7: Of our history is a lie. Or architectures a lie.
Speaker 6: You see parts of DC and when they dig down there,
Speaker 6: there was already some type of building and architecture there.
Speaker 6: So I do believe much of our history is a lie.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's just so much going on with current events,
Speaker 6: but I haven't looked into it enough, and I really should.
Speaker 7: I should take some time and look into it. How
Speaker 7: about yourself, Yeah, no.
Speaker 9: I think. I think.
Speaker 8: I think the Tartaria, all that kind of stuff, it
Speaker 8: makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 9: Did you The Hibbler had a new movie just recently.
Speaker 9: I don't know why.
Speaker 8: I can't think of the name of it right now,
Speaker 8: but you know, it went into detail about how they
Speaker 8: with the airships that they used to have into every city.
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't even I didn't know any of that,
Speaker 8: with the airships for each city and ports in the
Speaker 8: way that these people they used to get around back then.
Speaker 9: But the architecture I think speaks for itself.
Speaker 8: You know. I think there's some of the buildings that
Speaker 8: with such great just detail in the work. You know,
Speaker 8: how'd they do it on horse and buggy and it
Speaker 8: does it? You know, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah. But Sean's new movie is called Old World Order.
Speaker 9: Oh that's right, Old World Later. Yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 9: really good. That was actually really I thought that was good.
Speaker 8: And then Levi back on the the I guess I
Speaker 8: would call them nodes, uh, the John Levi.
Speaker 9: He he has a really good eclipse video.
Speaker 8: It's it's a little further back if you go to
Speaker 8: his video list, but that explains and I believe, even
Speaker 8: as like some photographs of you know what, these so
Speaker 8: called nodes are the things that are actually eclipsing the sun,
Speaker 8: which I find really interesting.
Speaker 6: My wife could probably find it because she usually doesn't
Speaker 6: miss a Sunday. I have to watch him on one
Speaker 6: point five speed. Yeah, But no, his stuff is great,
Speaker 6: and he's just lives his life and you know, he
Speaker 6: built his own little house and he just uh, he's
Speaker 6: living the dream off the grid, right absolutely. I'll go
Speaker 6: ahead and see if I can find that video.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's it's it's really cool. It's it's it's
Speaker 8: pretty interesting. That video so pretty pretty wild.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, Invisible Moons and Orbs. I think that's
Speaker 6: probably the one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, two.
Speaker 7: Hundred thousand views. He's on it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he's good.
Speaker 8: I found him before well, I guess he was around
Speaker 8: before my lunch break.
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, absolutely, I think we've been following him
Speaker 6: for a couple of years.
Speaker 7: Now at least.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if yet longer. When did you let me ask
Speaker 8: you real quick, hey, when did you start this? Uh
Speaker 8: your pot this one?
Speaker 6: I believe it was November of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 8: Okay, so I was I Yeah, I think i've been.
Speaker 8: I think when you started it, I know you usually
Speaker 8: ask how did I find I find it? And to
Speaker 8: be ones, I think I think it just popped up,
Speaker 8: to be honest, and I think it popped up because
Speaker 8: I bought I had a free thing through Amazon which
Speaker 8: I got an audio book which I never never do.
Speaker 8: But with that money I took, I bought Eric Dubay's
Speaker 8: I don't know two hundred Proofs of the Flat Earth
Speaker 8: or whatever that is, and I wound up buying that.
Speaker 9: I think because maybe I did that.
Speaker 8: That's why it popped up on the Spotify thing, okay,
Speaker 8: or maybe who knows I was who knows Eddie Bravo.
Speaker 8: Maybe I was listening to you back then or some
Speaker 8: other things, but it just popped up and it was
Speaker 8: right in the nicked time when I was like getting
Speaker 8: deep into into all that flatter of stuff. So so
Speaker 8: I've been I've been pretty much listening to you. Maybe
Speaker 8: I might have missed a few episodes in the beginning
Speaker 8: and then and then caught up, you know.
Speaker 6: So yeahl thirtieth twenty or I'm sorry, November thirtieth, twenty
Speaker 6: twenty two, so this November would be two years.
Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, congrats, Thanks, I appreciate its. Where'd you go
Speaker 9: for a while real quick if you don't mind me asking.
Speaker 6: Oh, the summertimes are extremely busy for us, and we
Speaker 6: had a couple we had a little string of no
Speaker 6: shows and it was just you know, like I said,
Speaker 6: it's just time to take a break, no harm, no foul.
Speaker 6: Doing one podcast is a lot, doing too is insane.
Speaker 6: But I'm also helping a buddy. He started a radio
Speaker 6: show over in the UK, so I put a little
Speaker 6: bit of my time into that for him as well.
Speaker 6: But the summertimes are insanely busy for us here, and
Speaker 6: it's been that we're preparing for a wedding for our daughter.
Speaker 6: Just one thing after another. But like I said, we'll
Speaker 6: run this through November, we'll take December break and we'll
Speaker 6: pick it right back up. And I think it's good.
Speaker 6: I think absence, you know, what do they say about
Speaker 6: absence makes the heart grow fonder. So I think it's
Speaker 6: good to take a break, but for the listener and
Speaker 6: for myself to catch a break and take a breath
Speaker 6: and enjoy life and think get right back at it,
Speaker 6: exposing the lives, telling the truth.
Speaker 9: I was a little aware. I thought they got you.
Speaker 7: Oh no, not yet.
Speaker 8: For a minute, I'm like, oh, no, you know, but yeah,
Speaker 8: I think I saw that podcast update.
Speaker 9: At some point I was like, all right, thank.
Speaker 6: God, And it's something I should, in hindsight, should have
Speaker 6: done sooner, but I just hadn't made a decision yet,
Speaker 6: So I didn't want to have a podcast update and
Speaker 6: be well, you know, this is really what's going on.
Speaker 6: So we just wanted to wait, make a decision, and
Speaker 6: hop back in the saddle. But hopefully we had enough
Speaker 6: content in there. People go back and listen while we
Speaker 6: took our break.
Speaker 8: Okay, and you you have another way? Is it called
Speaker 8: fact lunch there?
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, right there on the screen, that's us.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, all right, I didn't I got to get
Speaker 8: into that one. I didn't even know. I didn't even
Speaker 8: know that was there until I was listening to a
Speaker 8: previous episode.
Speaker 7: Yep. Yeah, we've been doing that since twenty twenty.
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, cool, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we are about at the break.
Speaker 6: So I wanted to give you the opportunity if there
Speaker 6: was anything that we hadn't covered yet, give you the opportunity.
Speaker 8: Oh god, I think I think I would just say.
Speaker 9: You know, to whoever.
Speaker 8: I I feel like it's kind of it's all responsibility
Speaker 8: to to wake as many people up, I think, as
Speaker 8: you can. I try to do it. I just try
Speaker 8: to drop seeds. And I learned that here, like there's
Speaker 8: no no point in arguing with these people. Because it's
Speaker 8: like impossible, and some of them I don't think. I
Speaker 8: don't think they're meant to see it, nor do they
Speaker 8: want to. But I I guess for the it's I
Speaker 8: could tell right away, like when you when you start
Speaker 8: dropping little seeds or whatever, if somebody starts asking questions
Speaker 8: or or the peaks or interests, like, you can kind
Speaker 8: of tell. And those are the people that that you
Speaker 8: want to. You want to you know, give this information too.
Speaker 8: But that's it. I don't wake up as many people
Speaker 8: as you can because I think I think we need to.
Speaker 8: I don't know what's going to happen, but I just
Speaker 8: think it's important to to to wake these people up.
Speaker 8: So that would be my last message.
Speaker 9: I guess.
Speaker 6: Well, it was great to have you. This This episode
Speaker 6: just absolutely flew by. It was a great conversation. We
Speaker 6: covered a lot of topics, and you know, I keep
Speaker 6: getting asked. I think, you know, maybe during my break
Speaker 6: in December, if I have time, if we're not traveling
Speaker 6: too much, you know, maybe look into Tartaria. And you know,
Speaker 6: here's my question for you before we go off.
Speaker 9: Who.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know flat Earth really became popular in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Where did the Tartaria and when when did that become
Speaker 6: popular amongst the truth community? Like who really got the
Speaker 6: smoke going before the fire with that?
Speaker 7: Do you know?
Speaker 8: Well, I would give credit to John Levi. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: probably right, I think I think he I saw, I know,
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, man, I've seen a documentary. I can't
Speaker 8: think of what it was called, but they kind of
Speaker 8: touched the Tartarius stuff. And this might have been before
Speaker 8: John Levi, but this had to do with the cabbage patch,
Speaker 8: with with the with the babies, the orphan trains, Oh
Speaker 8: that's right.
Speaker 6: That's right, the pop Civil War, the eighteen sixty eighteen
Speaker 6: seventy time frame there.
Speaker 8: And it was a really I'll tell you, it was
Speaker 8: a really cool documentary. And I would say that that
Speaker 8: that documentary definitely. I'm pretty sure it's been a while,
Speaker 8: but I'm pretty sure it dove into this Tartarius stuff
Speaker 8: a little bit. It might have not said Tartaria, but
Speaker 8: like the architecture and things like that. But but I
Speaker 8: would say when it comes when it comes to the
Speaker 8: Tartaria stuff, Joe, I would say John lev probably, you know,
Speaker 8: I think started this thing probably and then you know
Speaker 8: the my lunch break, you know, that guy does an
Speaker 8: awesome job too. He's got like a lot of a
Speaker 8: lot of different videos. Now he's probably over one hundred
Speaker 8: maybe now.
Speaker 6: Fifteen minutes every day. It's perfect. You know, you squeeze
Speaker 6: it in on your lunch break.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, but uh he's got one of with
Speaker 8: all the great fires if that is insane. Yeah, it's
Speaker 8: like every city, every city's print down. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 8: you know red flag absolutely, Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, according to them, with the New World Order,
Speaker 6: they have to tear down before they can build back up.
Speaker 6: That's that's what this whole thing is all about. They're
Speaker 6: they're tearing down the morals of our society to bring.
Speaker 7: In their new World Order. Just look at the morals
Speaker 7: today where it is.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you I'm afraid.
Speaker 8: I mean, call me crazy, but do you think you
Speaker 8: think they let all these people in uh for no reason.
Speaker 6: I have two theories on it. Number one that they
Speaker 6: really want war. They have to continue their demise of
Speaker 6: these societies who don't want to take part and usury
Speaker 6: and the rothschild. So either A they're going to just
Speaker 6: when things skick off, they're going to say.
Speaker 7: Either join the military or leave we're number two.
Speaker 6: They're going to send us and our children off and
Speaker 6: they're going to have them backfill the jobs here.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I just think they're I don't know, I
Speaker 8: can see the whole civil war right unfolding, or or
Speaker 8: maybe they got another sinister plan that they just wipe
Speaker 8: out a whole lot of us, you know, in one swoop.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not out of the good in some other
Speaker 6: their heart. There's a nefarious plan behind it, you.
Speaker 9: Can bet that, of course. Of course.
Speaker 6: Well, brother, it's been an honor to have this conversation
Speaker 6: with you tonight, and I want to thank you for
Speaker 6: your time, and you, yourself and everybody else who's come
Speaker 6: on behind you are the reason this podcast is successful.
Speaker 7: So thank you so.
Speaker 9: Much, brother, Thank you, thanks a lot, George yep.
Speaker 6: And and tell the listeners thank you for your continued support.
Speaker 6: And we'll have another podcas cast for you next week.
Speaker 6: Don't forget to stop by the website and check out
Speaker 6: our interview with Rob that will be up by the
Speaker 6: time this podcast comes up, and everything we talked about
Speaker 6: today will be in the show notes right there on
Speaker 6: the website. God bless each and every single one of you.
Speaker 6: Have a great week and until we meet again, my friends,
Speaker 6: we will see it.
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