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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up. That's who you don't have to run

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<v Speaker 1>in just as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 3>Come Dix is the Troubleshooter show.

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<v Speaker 4>No Tom Martino, Hey Tom Martino. Here today is car Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll bring up the experts in the studio in one

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<v Speaker 4>second year we're talking, yes, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Not hear your voice? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought maybe there was a technical difficulty. You were

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<v Speaker 4>gonna say, Tommy boy, you're over undermodulated, or I can't

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<v Speaker 4>hear your breaking Okay, Well good Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, Mark what I call my.

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<v Speaker 4>Godsend, because when I don't feel like doing it, I

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<v Speaker 4>just I know I got a copilot here, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>also I got the experts.

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<v Speaker 3>In and says too.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah and and I have the experts always available for

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<v Speaker 4>my car day. And then my deputies who have been

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<v Speaker 4>with me very strongly. And I almost called Dimetria and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>d come on over to the house today, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>or Doc come on over to the house. But I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't sure I'm going to do the whole show. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk about this today's car Day. Let me bring

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<v Speaker 4>in the studio here. As you can see, there's Deputy

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<v Speaker 4>d Deputy Doc Kevin Coulkin and Major Mark Major. And

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<v Speaker 4>today I have some fun I want to do with

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<v Speaker 4>Car Day, and I want to classify cars. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to classify them like the most romantic car, the sexiest car,

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<v Speaker 4>the most luxurious car, the immature car, the sensible car.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>The most luxurious car is Rolls Royce. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think there's a and the bent LEAs. You know

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<v Speaker 4>that English kind of motif, you know that. Man, those

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<v Speaker 4>those freaking Rolls Royces. They take my breath away. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not excited about cars, but if I had one,

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<v Speaker 4>I would be afraid to drive it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a Bentley one time. It was pretty nice,

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<v Speaker 3>back when.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bentleys were Bentley's before they became mass produced. And

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<v Speaker 4>I liked it, but I was afraid to drive it.

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<v Speaker 4>Had this fancy interior and all this stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was just afraid of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And and you were the same. You were the same

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<v Speaker 5>way with that Ferrari you had. You had that Ferrari

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<v Speaker 5>for like two years and put.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight miles on it. I know, you know what. I

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<v Speaker 3>went through some really stupid times with cars. I really did.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why that's stupid. Why is that stupid?

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what I'm talking about. Totally impractical. I had

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<v Speaker 4>to wait a second hold on Kevin.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister Kevin, that probably owns more smokers and barbecue grills

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<v Speaker 5>than I do. How impractical is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, no, they're all for something, I mean. But yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that's a once in a month drive. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>So wait, I want to know something though, Kevin. Are

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<v Speaker 4>you a big outdoor cooker?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, love it, love it, love it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 7>Yea?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Mark, you know, one of the biggest ones I

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<v Speaker 4>ever knew was Buddy Mitchell from Simply Floors. And that

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<v Speaker 4>guy is crazy with outdoor cooking. He's got the portable

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<v Speaker 4>pizza oven and he's got all these outdoor cookers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I use go ahead. No, he's a little

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<v Speaker 4>naughty for sure. Yeah, and Mark loves outdoor cooking. I

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<v Speaker 4>never got into it. Here's my problem with outdoor cooking.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and Memorial Days coming up. So this is this

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<v Speaker 4>is the big big, this is the big kickoff of

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<v Speaker 4>outdoor cooking. I can never Okay, I don't use it.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I should use a meat thermometer, but I can

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<v Speaker 4>never really judge extra rare, rare, medium, medium.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want whenever I whenever I eat at Marks and

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<v Speaker 4>he does it. He slaps it on and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>see him use a meat thermometer and it comes out perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>I try. What I do is cut a little sliver

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<v Speaker 3>in the meat and look at it. Do you do that, Kevin?

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you pretty much know?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, you got it. You get used to it.

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<v Speaker 5>You can, you can stakes easy, depending on you know.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing really it's a little tougher, but either

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<v Speaker 5>a meat thermometer like you're talking about, but generally you

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<v Speaker 5>just touch it and.

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<v Speaker 6>Just you learn it feel exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You can feel by the but you can tell by

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<v Speaker 3>the feel.

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<v Speaker 5>And barbecue you just hear from you know, from your

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<v Speaker 5>time when you're smoking something. You know from your equipment

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<v Speaker 5>because you know basically what the temp is and then

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<v Speaker 5>the time and then the look at the bark yep

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<v Speaker 5>and Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 8>You have a lot of you know, wireless meat thermometers.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that make it real easy. Yeah, big time.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, you mean it broadcasts to your phone?

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<v Speaker 5>Yea, absolutely, I'll use those for any smoking I do

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<v Speaker 5>over say seven eight hours, so anything but ribs. If

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing a huge brisket, it's going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>probe in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark, how many different cookers do you have? Which gull?

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<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately Suzanne made me throw a a crapload of them away,

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<v Speaker 5>so I am down to why actually I'm down to three.

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<v Speaker 5>I got what's called a medium green egg. I have

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<v Speaker 5>a beautiful smoker made by members Mark, and then a

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<v Speaker 5>propane grill made by members Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the beautiful smoker too.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a big, beautiful smoker, just like a big beautiful

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<v Speaker 5>bill that just passed the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, big beautiful.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna tell you I owned Suzanne, and I

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<v Speaker 5>owned one of the most romantic vehicles.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever fifty seven Chevy convertible.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, it was a two thousand and four. We

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<v Speaker 5>bought a brand new when we had Mountain Peak computers,

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and four E one fifty CONVERTI van and

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<v Speaker 5>it had a fold down back chair that turned into

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<v Speaker 5>a bed.

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<v Speaker 3>And if that van was a knocking no, damn it,

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<v Speaker 3>I said it wrong. It's rocking. Don't come and knock backing, Thomas,

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<v Speaker 3>did we lose him, shan him? Is that possible? We

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<v Speaker 3>just lost him? I wonder if I mean, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>he must have dropped off. That's crazy. Yeah, we'll try

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<v Speaker 3>to get him back out talking on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 5>Well maybe so, Tom, you lost your connection here bro

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<v Speaker 5>anyhow three oh three seven one three eight two five five,

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<v Speaker 5>what would you consider the most romantic?

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin? And we want to hear from everybody out there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's card day three zero three seven one three eight

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<v Speaker 5>two five five. We have open lines right now. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what's going on with Tom. I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 5>get him reconnected. But seriously, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean they're like you said, the shagwagon or yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, like a big front seat where you

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<v Speaker 6>can sit next of each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh back, like in the driving days.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing instead of buckets or

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<v Speaker 6>a center console or something.

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<v Speaker 5>I think my kids are probably the last generation that

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<v Speaker 5>have been to a drive in, And they were pretty young,

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<v Speaker 5>and we were out in like, uh, Wisconsin, little town,

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<v Speaker 5>chittech and they still had.

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<v Speaker 3>The full blown drive in. Yeah, you would get out.

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<v Speaker 5>You could either hang the thing on the side of

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<v Speaker 5>your window or tune in on the FM transmitter and

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<v Speaker 5>then they had you know, the popcorn, and they literally

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<v Speaker 5>had an arcade behind the screen as well. But I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think my kids will see it again, I mean ever.

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<v Speaker 5>But but two movies too, Oh yeah, yeah, you see

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<v Speaker 5>two movies. I remember too. We used to sneak people

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<v Speaker 5>in in the cars in the trunk, doc. What do

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<v Speaker 5>you think most romantic vehicle? I don't know romantic.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought fifty seven Chevy convertible was so cool and

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<v Speaker 8>so romantic at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Why romantic? I think using that Christine.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know know Christine was like a fifty It

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<v Speaker 6>was ALM five or something plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I saw on the way to work today,

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<v Speaker 5>I saw like a oh dang it now I can't

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<v Speaker 5>even think about I can't even remember what it's called.

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<v Speaker 5>But I couldn't believe it was still on the road.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't like a classic. It was like a nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>seventy something. I'll remember it. What do you think most

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<v Speaker 5>romantic h I have to.

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<v Speaker 10>Go look at my old high school days. But I

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<v Speaker 10>had a girlfriend who had a Triumph Spitfire. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 10>that was really awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great makeout car, or like a little

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<v Speaker 3>MG Midget well, same thing, say just about like or

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<v Speaker 3>a Tiger Sunbeam Tiger.

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<v Speaker 10>Remember what Maxwell Smart drove? So those are really really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you guys remember it was either last week or

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<v Speaker 5>the week before the guy called up and he was

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<v Speaker 5>talking about what convertible to buy he wanted. He was

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<v Speaker 5>like in his seventies and he wanted a new convertible

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<v Speaker 5>to buy, and he wanted a US one afford or

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<v Speaker 5>of Chevy. And we were talking Mustangs, we were talking

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<v Speaker 5>all these different cars. I got so many emails on that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what. I got to look up, but three

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<v Speaker 5>or four of them said the exact same thing, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was not a US car. They're like, don't buy

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<v Speaker 5>don't buy one. Hey, what happened, Thomas? Let me guess

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<v Speaker 5>you do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something. I

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<v Speaker 4>I did touch something. Okay, he hit that big tower button.

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<v Speaker 4>I did touch something and it and it went wanked out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my new word, wanker nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? Is Shannon is Winker allowed on the air? Of

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<v Speaker 3>course you've been allowed on the air for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Snap, all right, So listen, when you were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>your van vans are sleazy vehicles.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing was bad of Bomber's sexual assault everything. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't I didn't black out the windows. Hey, we've all

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<v Speaker 3>seen some vans driving around where you know there is

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<v Speaker 3>someone being held hostage inside.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the most immatured vehicle? Immature like it shows someone

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<v Speaker 4>as immature.

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<v Speaker 10>I think a beetle, No question of Portia, any Lamborghinio, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Get at it, that's a total car.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the most sensible vehicle? What's the most sensible vehicle.

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<v Speaker 5>The most sensible or a you know, a Hondai accent.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, yeah, Toyotas are the Toyota Corolla, the most

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<v Speaker 4>sensible car made.

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<v Speaker 5>That's such a weird more sensible because the first thing

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<v Speaker 5>I thought of is fuel. I'm thinking, is sensible electric

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<v Speaker 5>or sensible gasoline or.

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<v Speaker 3>A hybrid like a priest or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the sexiest I think the sexiest vehicle is

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<v Speaker 4>a Lamborghini.

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<v Speaker 4>And then, as we've always talked about and never have

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<v Speaker 3>sales deal up Mark Schamansky real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark's on for his spot, but I want to ask

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<v Speaker 5>And he's a contractor, that's actually a good question for him.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, oh again for me, it's a pickup truck.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's like that's like an avalanche.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's an suv, a mid size suv.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I thought I had doesn't hand to make

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<v Speaker 4>one with a little pickup They used to Okay, Sogline pickup.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they still have the ridgeline, right, yeah, it's still

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Matt, Matt Stafford drives on.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh he does. Yeah, and you bought it pretty recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Schamansky, Hey, you know he's doing Mark Schamansky.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what do you think is the sexiest? Go ahead? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think there.

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<v Speaker 13>I think they're awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the most luxurious car?

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<v Speaker 3>So, speaking of Mark, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna take it. We're gonna take a quick break. Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll be right back with us right after this. Go

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<v Speaker 4>with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>choose Frank durand the Real Estate Man dot com to

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<v Speaker 4>list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

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<v Speaker 4>two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey, Tom Mars you know

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<v Speaker 4>here three all three seven one three tall car Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking cars, We're talking anything you want. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 4>to Samantha. She's got an overheating issue, I believe with

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<v Speaker 4>a twenty seventeen jeep Wrangler.

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<v Speaker 3>Samantha, she just dropped off. Apologies, Oh she did.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, Samantha, call us back if you want. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>but while we're talking about it, let's ask Kevin, what's

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<v Speaker 4>the main reason for overheating?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, on all vehicles, what's the main reason?

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<v Speaker 6>Usually, uh, leaked is the biggest one. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>to words, So they're actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Low on fluid. Correct? What about thermostats? Do they screw

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<v Speaker 3>up a lot?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they do, but most of them are fail safe.

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<v Speaker 6>Now where they'll stop or get stuck open, they won't

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<v Speaker 6>stick closed.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you just won't have heat, won't heat, it won't overheat. Correct.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the majority of the new Okay, yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 6>not a big deal. But airflow through radiators fans different things,

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<v Speaker 6>but the biggest is leaks.

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<v Speaker 5>And radiators really don't I mean back in the day,

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<v Speaker 5>out of like plastics, so.

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<v Speaker 6>They were solid. Get bad, yeah they could.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I mean pretty much unless you get a

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<v Speaker 6>Something happen to interiorate because the plastic polymers and stuff

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<v Speaker 6>break down with heat over time, so they're only good

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<v Speaker 6>for about six to ten years. Oh okay, so then

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<v Speaker 6>the plastic seals start letting go, but you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't rot them out anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, he's from them away. There's nothing effects.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, now I know they make go ahead, Ken say.

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<v Speaker 6>The leaks also introduce air into a sealed system, and

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<v Speaker 6>the system can't pomp or move air, so you start

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<v Speaker 6>which doesn't make sense, but they can't move the air,

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<v Speaker 6>so it just backs up.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I hear that coolant is overlooked like they people

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<v Speaker 4>don't flush.

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<v Speaker 3>It or service it like they do oil.

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<v Speaker 6>You agree, absolutely, but it's it's the advertising. They tell

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<v Speaker 6>you have lifetime anti freezer. It's good for five years

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<v Speaker 6>or one hundred thousand miles, and you know, it's just nonsense.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody's trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin doesn't like. Yeah, Kevin does not like lifetime anything.

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<v Speaker 6>No, there is no such thing, you know, because lifetime.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody has a different definition of lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's silly. Now what is somebody wants to know?

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<v Speaker 4>They texted me, by the way, let me give that

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<v Speaker 4>number out because I love this text number. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>even when I'm off the air, I get the text

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<v Speaker 4>and I can use them on the show. Seven four

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<v Speaker 4>seven nine nine fifty two eighty seven four seven nine

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<v Speaker 4>nine nine fifty two eighty. Well, somebody wants to know.

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<v Speaker 4>What would you say that they're looking for one?

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<v Speaker 3>Right now?

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<v Speaker 4>keV the best all around work vehicle, work vehicle, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he means a pickup because he put PU

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<v Speaker 4>PU work vehicle, pickup work vehicle. I'm sure that means.

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<v Speaker 4>So what would you say? Do you like what's broken

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<v Speaker 4>run out there? The Tacoma huh? The Tacoma Toyota, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the best. What about the Tundra Tundra tote?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, any one of those is fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they really beat the hell out of Ford and

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<v Speaker 3>Chevy and Dodge? Yes, not even.

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<v Speaker 4>In what regard In what regards you say that Ford and.

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<v Speaker 6>Chevy, you're both having a lot of issues with transmissions

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<v Speaker 6>right now. The ten speed is a disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a call on it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a chronic, chronic problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh is that an Allison.

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<v Speaker 6>No, the Allison's in the diesel. The ten speed's in

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<v Speaker 6>the gas motor. But uh, yeah, it's just it's both

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<v Speaker 6>Ford and Chevy both have a ten speed, different manufacturer,

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<v Speaker 6>but they're both having.

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<v Speaker 4>Trus Okay, so all right, So what about Dodge trucks.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't hear much about them anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>They're pretty, but that's sense as far as it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>They have engine problems, cam chef problems. You know, the

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<v Speaker 6>three big big ones are all having engine and transmission problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, one guy just texted me, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>he's lying, just now that his Tundra has almost five

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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand miles.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that possible?

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<v Speaker 6>I believe it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh my god. What is it about them?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Other than the transmission?

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<v Speaker 4>Is the engine so tight that it doesn't become a

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<v Speaker 4>leak bucket?

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<v Speaker 6>No, it doesn't. We don't do a lot of work

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<v Speaker 6>on him, very little.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>People call it it's a joke. They call it the

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<v Speaker 6>Toyota tax. Because you pay extra for Toyota, but you're

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<v Speaker 6>getting you know, you get your money's worth. Out of

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<v Speaker 6>those you can afford one, that's the first one I

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<v Speaker 6>would or the only truck I'd really recommend.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, speaking of Toyota, Deputy D sitting there, Deputy D

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<v Speaker 4>loves don't you love Toyota's Deputy D.

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<v Speaker 10>I love it, you know, I have my beloved for Runner,

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<v Speaker 10>and man, it's been the most reliable, nicest vehicle I've

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<v Speaker 10>ever owned. And it's got well over it's got a

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<v Speaker 10>little over two hundred thousand miles on it and still

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<v Speaker 5>I heard those have little uh in the computer thing.

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<v Speaker 5>They track everything you do and say in the action that.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't ever tell him that you're.

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<v Speaker 5>On a live television You're on a live reality show

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<v Speaker 5>in Japan.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time you get in that vehicle.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hey hey, uh do you have a smart watch,

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<v Speaker 4>Deputy D?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course not, No, of course not.

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<v Speaker 10>And and my car doesn't even have Bluetooth or on

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<v Speaker 10>Star or that satellite radio so that they can track

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<v Speaker 10>you and listen in. I have none of that. It's

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<v Speaker 10>all analog. Even my watch is an analog watch.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I want to ask quite this site. What bugs

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<v Speaker 3>you so much about being spied on?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, nothing, because I'm not doing anything you listen, right,

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<v Speaker 10>I just I.

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<v Speaker 6>So were this?

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<v Speaker 3>So was ton YEP.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to stay in time. I want to remind

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<v Speaker 4>people we're asking you to categorize cars the sexiest, the

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<v Speaker 4>most luxurious, the best work vehicle, let's put that in there,

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<v Speaker 4>the most comfort, luxury, whatever category you want to give

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<v Speaker 4>us on a car. And if you had to have one,

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<v Speaker 4>which one would it be? And what did we mark?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you once do a.

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<v Speaker 3>Segment on their very first car? Yeah? We did, we did.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's let's stick to uh the break because.

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<v Speaker 5>We got Samantha Ron all right, and then someone else

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<v Speaker 5>pop and see you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 15>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up, free, no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

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<v Speaker 4>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Marshino here, Samantha, talk about your twenty seventeen cheap Wrangler.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I've been having issues with it for several years

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<v Speaker 16>and it's constantly overheating. I had taken it. I've only

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<v Speaker 16>used the dealership that I bought it from for service

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<v Speaker 16>and they told me initially like, yeah, it was just

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<v Speaker 16>to another dealer, another mechanic, to get a second opinion,

431
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<v Speaker 16>and they told me that the engine that I had

432
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<v Speaker 16>was notorious for having problems and that until the engine

433
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<v Speaker 16>itself was replaced, I'd keep blowing head gaskets. So I

434
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<v Speaker 16>went back to the dealership and told them that and

435
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<v Speaker 16>they said that was an true And since then, I've

436
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<v Speaker 16>blown four head gaskets. I'm on my fifth and the oh.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait hose.

438
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<v Speaker 4>I want to ask a couple questions, Samantha, did you

439
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<v Speaker 4>buy this new yes?

440
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<v Speaker 3>Okay? And how many miles on it now?

441
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<v Speaker 16>Seventy seven thousands.

442
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<v Speaker 4>And you went through that Kevin four head gaskets.

443
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<v Speaker 3>My god, I've never heard that before.

444
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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, so we've replaced.

445
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<v Speaker 3>What do you think's going on?

446
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, I mean it needs to be checked for

447
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:37.799
<v Speaker 6>the surface of the head or the block needs to

448
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<v Speaker 6>be checked to make sure there's no war because there's

449
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<v Speaker 6>no other reason that would continue to blow head gaskets.

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<v Speaker 16>So it's in the shop now and they've said that

451
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<v Speaker 16>they have finally done it because again it's overheating. And

452
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<v Speaker 16>they're now saying that I need a new engine and

453
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<v Speaker 16>it's not covered by any warranty, even though I haven't

454
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<v Speaker 16>extended warranty through another company. They're refusing to cover it

455
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<v Speaker 16>because I just had head gaskets replaced to last July,

456
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<v Speaker 16>or heads the actual cylinder replaced last July, and they

457
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<v Speaker 16>didn't machine the head at they've never machined the heads.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it sounds like you have a bunch of

459
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<v Speaker 4>clowns working on it.

460
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<v Speaker 3>That's what it sounds like to me.

461
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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't sound really, It sounds like you have a

462
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<v Speaker 4>bunch of clowns.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Working on it.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>I have nine services for overheating in the last three years.

466
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<v Speaker 3>But you're talking about the same company, right.

467
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<v Speaker 16>Yes, I keep going to the dealership because they're they're

468
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<v Speaker 16>the only ones that I have had work on the

469
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<v Speaker 16>car because this was explained to me that it was

470
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<v Speaker 16>a manufacturer's defect. Now this time they've come back and

471
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<v Speaker 16>said it is the engine, because there's a manufacturer's defect

472
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<v Speaker 16>on the engine. But they're refusing to pay for it.

473
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<v Speaker 16>And they're saying I have to pay thirteen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 16>to replace the engine.

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<v Speaker 4>How much have you paid on the damn head gaskets

476
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<v Speaker 4>each time?

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<v Speaker 16>So the first time I took it in, I was

478
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<v Speaker 16>two months outside of my warranty, so Jeep gave me

479
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<v Speaker 16>a good will warranty and covered the first time. Since then,

480
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<v Speaker 16>I had my extended warranty, paid for it once and

481
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<v Speaker 16>I've paid for it the other time. So this is

482
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<v Speaker 16>the fourth head gasket time. So I've paid probably six

483
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<v Speaker 16>thousand for the replacing the cylinder.

484
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<v Speaker 4>So right now they say you need a head gasket, No, they.

485
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<v Speaker 6>Say she needs an engine.

486
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<v Speaker 16>Engine.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, what do you think's going on, Kevin? Do

488
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<v Speaker 4>you think it's shit? Well, like I said, Kevin, have

489
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<v Speaker 4>you ever heard of this?

490
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<v Speaker 3>Twenty seventeen jeep having an engine problem.

491
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<v Speaker 6>Three sixteps has had nothing but problems with overheating. Yes, yeah,

492
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<v Speaker 6>it's a chronic. But why whether it's in the caravan,

493
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<v Speaker 6>whether it's in the jeep. It's just a support design.

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<v Speaker 6>They've had a lot of problems with the blocks, They've

495
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<v Speaker 6>had a lot of problems with the heads, so they

496
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<v Speaker 6>need to check closer. I mean, it's it's easy enough

497
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<v Speaker 6>to check to make sure the block is flat before

498
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<v Speaker 6>you put a head gasket on it, and the same

499
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<v Speaker 6>with the head. And if you put a head on

500
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<v Speaker 6>without doing a resurface on the head, you're just asking

501
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<v Speaker 6>for it to come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think resurfacing the heads now? And do you

503
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<v Speaker 4>think it's too late? When they say she needs a

504
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 4>new engine, why wouldn't they just recommend a new head.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? That that I don't know why they're basing what

506
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 6>they're basing, you know, because it seems like it's it's

507
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.559
<v Speaker 6>too late. It seems like something the should have based

508
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<v Speaker 6>on a year ago.

509
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<v Speaker 3>But here's what I'm asking Kevin.

510
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<v Speaker 4>If she was supposed to plane that head long ago,

511
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<v Speaker 4>and true the head and she didn't, can it ruin

512
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<v Speaker 4>the bottom of the engine.

513
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<v Speaker 6>Typically not, but it may the bottom of the block

514
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<v Speaker 6>surface may have been the initial problem that they're now

515
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<v Speaker 6>identifying two years later. It's it's oh, I see, yeah,

516
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<v Speaker 6>so that I don't think they ever fixed the problem.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Tom, If she identified the problem or initiated contact

518
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<v Speaker 8>with the dealership while it was under warranty and it's

519
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<v Speaker 8>the same problem, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>That No, But it wasn't under warranty. It wasn't under warranty.

521
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<v Speaker 4>It was out of warranty, and they did a good

522
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<v Speaker 4>faith of repair, so that would not extend. However, if

523
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<v Speaker 4>it was in warranty when it began, you're right, Doc,

524
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<v Speaker 4>and it was never corrected, it would still be a

525
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 4>warranted item. But it was outside a warranty when they

526
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:25.039
<v Speaker 4>fixed it. That's the big deal right now? This sucks man.

527
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<v Speaker 4>What dealer is it?

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<v Speaker 16>And it's a manufactured defect in the block, so it

529
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<v Speaker 16>would have been there the Yeah.

530
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<v Speaker 4>But that seems to me it should be covered. If

531
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<v Speaker 4>it's a manufacturer's defect, why isn't it covered?

532
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<v Speaker 13>Right?

533
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<v Speaker 16>And no one will talk to me now. They're just

534
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 16>very rude, condescending. They tucked down to me. They tell

535
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 16>me that they're frustrated and tired of me. And they meanwhile,

536
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 16>they have my car and say I have to pay

537
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<v Speaker 16>them tallers for a new engine.

538
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<v Speaker 4>But you didn't do that yet, right, it's still taking apart. Yes, Now,

539
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<v Speaker 4>what's the name of the dealer?

540
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<v Speaker 16>AutoNation Chrysler Jeeper Appa hoo.

541
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, now I want Deputy D to just call over

542
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<v Speaker 4>and possibly eat pop to someone at a district Less

543
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 4>or Chrysler Jeep. This may not be a dealership thing.

544
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is, but certainly if there's

545
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<v Speaker 4>a manufacturer's defect on a block, for God's sake, you

546
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 4>would think it would be covered.

547
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<v Speaker 3>Kevin, have you ever heard about this?

548
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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, you've heard about overheating, But have you heard

549
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<v Speaker 4>about any specific defect.

550
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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's a chronic issue, so you know, some have

551
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 6>had problems, some have blocked problems. So it's all over

552
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<v Speaker 6>the board.

553
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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, dang it, but it all right.

554
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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, Samantha, We're gonna Samantha, you hang on all

555
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<v Speaker 4>right now, Ron, I'm gonna we're gonna take your question.

556
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<v Speaker 4>We'll think about it and come back to it. What

557
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<v Speaker 4>kind of electrical issue on your car?

558
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<v Speaker 17>Sometimes when it rains a lot or it snows, I

559
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 17>will get into I will try to open the car,

560
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 17>and the electric thing to open it won't work. I

561
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 17>get in, try to start, it won't start. There seems

562
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<v Speaker 17>to be no electricity to the dash, and sometimes I

563
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 17>find water in the floorboard on the passenger side. I've

564
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 17>found a solution, which is I open the hood, I

565
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 17>open the fuse box. I pull out the fuse that

566
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.119
<v Speaker 17>goes to the starter. I put it back in. Well

567
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 17>before I did that, I tried to jump. It didn't work.

568
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<v Speaker 17>But then when I pull out that fuse, put the

569
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 17>same fuse back in, Close everything up and jump it.

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<v Speaker 17>It'll start. It's been into the shop and they're trying

571
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<v Speaker 17>to figure it out. They took the and I may

572
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<v Speaker 17>not have the terms right, but they took like the

573
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<v Speaker 17>fuse boxer's like two or three levels underneath it, and

574
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 17>there was some manual something that said on those buconclaves,

575
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<v Speaker 17>there's an issue under there. They went and looked for

576
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 17>that issue and they said that issue doesn't exist on yours.

577
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<v Speaker 17>So I'm just wondering if Kevin had any insights, if

578
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<v Speaker 17>he's seen that before.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, you know what they do, electrical issues, So

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<v Speaker 4>hang on, we'll come back to that.

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martino here, you know what I was talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>The avalanche.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody texted me a link to a YouTube and it's

599
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<v Speaker 4>this Chevy Silverado EV.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks like an electric Avalanche is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Beautiful vehicle, but just a little too expensive for that category.

602
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 4>You know you can't get one really for under eighty grand.

603
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<v Speaker 4>You can't even touch it, And that's a little too

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<v Speaker 4>much for the Chevy in my opinion. Ron, you have

605
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<v Speaker 4>the twenty fifteen Buick Enclave. Guys, Kevin, what do you

606
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<v Speaker 4>think when it rains or snows, there seems to be

607
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<v Speaker 4>an accumulation of water. It goes down and some of

608
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 4>it gets to his floorpan. And to me, I mean,

609
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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty obvious it's a short.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, there's got to be some corrosion and a

611
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<v Speaker 6>connector somewhere. You know, if it's continually getting water. Did

612
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<v Speaker 6>they solve the water intrusion? You gotta start. No, that's

613
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 6>gotta be fixed. It doesn't matter the rest of it,

614
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 6>doesn't matter.

615
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<v Speaker 3>Where's the water coming from exactly?

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<v Speaker 17>I don't know. Now, I was wondering about something, and

617
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<v Speaker 17>I'm not sure the timing fits for this, but maybe

618
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<v Speaker 17>a couple of years ago or so I had the

619
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<v Speaker 17>windshield replaced, but this has only started about six months ago.

620
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<v Speaker 17>But I was wondering if that might be it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's entirely possible. Well, it's not hard to fix, I mean,

622
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<v Speaker 6>or not hard to find. You just you know, you

623
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 6>could have a plug you know, plugged vent too. I mean,

624
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 6>you're you're you know, the little screen by your wipers.

625
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<v Speaker 6>The water will go down there, and there is a

626
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 6>drain that does get plugged up and that can back

627
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 6>up into the car. So I think you can fix

628
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<v Speaker 6>the water.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first thing.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta fix the water.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing is solving the water.

632
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<v Speaker 4>The second thing is finding Now, could there be damage

633
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<v Speaker 4>to circuit boards that need to be replaced?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Yeah, the corrosion will start with water intrusion. That's

635
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<v Speaker 6>the biggest concern.

636
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<v Speaker 3>Run is this under warranty?

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<v Speaker 17>No, it's too old and too hot milds.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, of course it's I'm sorry, Yeah, it's twenty fifteen.

639
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<v Speaker 4>So why don't you take it over to Kevin? I mean,

640
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<v Speaker 4>where is it right now?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, it's in Colorado Springs, but I don't mind coming

642
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<v Speaker 17>up there for something like that because I can make

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<v Speaker 17>an appointment whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>And wait, well, Jesse's really good down in the springs too.

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<v Speaker 6>Who is Jesse? Honest accurate?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, honest, accurate auto.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you call why don't you call honest accurate auto?

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<v Speaker 4>Ask for Jesse? Tell him the issue you're having. He's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good at tracking that down.

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<v Speaker 17>Okay, that sounds great.

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<v Speaker 3>Where have you had it? Have you had it on

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<v Speaker 3>a dealer.

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<v Speaker 17>No, No, I've got a shop that I trust and

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<v Speaker 17>they're good and everything, and I go over there. So

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<v Speaker 17>that's where I take all my stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Now, now they may be good, and they may

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<v Speaker 3>be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>They may be honest and good, but sometimes it just

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<v Speaker 4>takes an extra touch, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>Try them out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's it's called honest, accurate auto.

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<v Speaker 6>And I would seriously focus on the water before I

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<v Speaker 6>focused on anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't tell me about the no start or anything. That's

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<v Speaker 6>not a concern. I have water coming in my car.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where you start.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first one man.

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<v Speaker 4>Once that's done, then you can hunt down the electrical problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there might not be there. Night might not be another

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<v Speaker 4>problem once it drives up.

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>eight two five five Angel, go ahead, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 10>Hi?

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<v Speaker 14>Can you near me?

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear you.

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<v Speaker 18>Okay.

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<v Speaker 14>So my father who has terrible late stage SELPD, he

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<v Speaker 14>lives in my It sounds weird, but he lives in

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<v Speaker 14>my yard in an RV. And he apparently thought he

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<v Speaker 14>needed to go buy a new RV, and so he

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<v Speaker 14>went to os Road Automotive in Fort.

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<v Speaker 7>Loveton, and.

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<v Speaker 14>He had I think he had gotten like a attack

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<v Speaker 14>three pound or something. So he had twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 14>dollars and he signed up for a fifteen thousand dollars RV,

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<v Speaker 14>which he doesn't have the remaining funds. He does have

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<v Speaker 14>some land in Arizona that he could potentially sell and

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<v Speaker 14>get the remaining funds, but anyway, that's that's a long story.

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<v Speaker 14>So anyway, he signed sport to purchase an RV. He

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<v Speaker 14>put twenty five hundred down on it, and then he

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<v Speaker 14>left and he said he would come back with the

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<v Speaker 14>remaining funds. Well, he doesn't have the remaining funds and

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<v Speaker 14>he never took the RV off the lot or anything.

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<v Speaker 14>And then he finally talked to us about it, and

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<v Speaker 14>we're like, you can't do that. You need to go

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<v Speaker 14>get your money back. That's all the money you have,

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<v Speaker 14>you know. And so basically, let me ask you something, angel, Angel,

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<v Speaker 14>let me angel, I want to ask you something.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to continue this after the break, but I

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<v Speaker 4>want to ask you does he have dementia?

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<v Speaker 14>He does not.

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<v Speaker 18>He has not been diagnosed with dementia.

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<v Speaker 1>Come.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>No Tom Martino, Hey Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three O three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 3>Now today is.

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<v Speaker 4>and talk about cars and issues and motor vehicles, but

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<v Speaker 4>anything else that comes up. And we do have a

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<v Speaker 4>follow up where we do have an expert on and uh, Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to take this one? You took the

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<v Speaker 3>call from Leslie.

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<v Speaker 5>This one is completely insane. The call came in yesterday

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<v Speaker 5>from Leslie and let me just recap it real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>She wanted to paint her house, so she went to

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<v Speaker 5>the h o Ways website because there's only uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>particular color patterns and colors you can choose, So she

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<v Speaker 5>chose one. It happened to be number fifty three, and

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<v Speaker 5>that ties in with Guyries or Sherwin Williams. Number fifty

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<v Speaker 5>three for her neighborhood, like literally for her neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>So she chooses it. Then she hires a contractor.

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<v Speaker 5>The contractor goes to Guy Rees, picks up the paint,

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<v Speaker 5>goes over to her house, is going to start painting,

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<v Speaker 5>and she leaves for work. He starts painting. She gets home,

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<v Speaker 5>the house is green. Number fifty three is gray. What

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<v Speaker 5>happened was the HOA. At first you would think the

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<v Speaker 5>contractor messed up, the painter painter did not mess up.

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<v Speaker 5>Who actually messed up was the website for the HOA

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<v Speaker 5>where you would go to choose what color you want,

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<v Speaker 5>and she chose fifty three, which was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 5>like basically a gray and white, and it ended up

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<v Speaker 5>being green. So she calls up the contractor. At first

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<v Speaker 5>of course, and it wasn't his fault. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 5>just grabbed number fifty three, like you told me. She

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<v Speaker 5>makes sure Sherwin Williams, her guy Reyes gave him the

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<v Speaker 5>right one, which was fifty three. Then she calls up

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<v Speaker 5>the HOA or the management company and says, hey, what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on here? Number fifty three is gray and it's

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<v Speaker 5>not gray. It's actually green according to everybody else, And

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<v Speaker 5>they go, oh, whoops, we messed up on the website.

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<v Speaker 5>So the website actually was wrong, and that's where you

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<v Speaker 5>have to go and pick out your colors in this

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<v Speaker 5>particular community. So then it gets even weirder after they

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<v Speaker 5>acknowledge that they offer her two thousand dollars. The paint

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<v Speaker 5>job cost eight thousand, but they offer her two thousand

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<v Speaker 5>dollars for whatever reason. But what's the strangest part is

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<v Speaker 5>then they redo the website. Now on the website and

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<v Speaker 5>she has screenshots of the original. Now on the website,

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<v Speaker 5>it says, hey, you need to make sure it's the

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<v Speaker 5>right color when it shows up at your house, and

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<v Speaker 5>fifty three is now the proper color of gray. So

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<v Speaker 5>the question is for Brad O'Brien, Brad, I think we

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<v Speaker 5>have sent you some of the documentation from the HOA,

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<v Speaker 5>But pretty much everything I looked at, everything Dmitri looked

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<v Speaker 5>at is pretty much exactly what I just recapped. Dmitri,

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<v Speaker 5>Is there something you want to add because you looked

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<v Speaker 5>at a lot of it?

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<v Speaker 10>No, I think you did the perfect job summarizing the situation.

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<v Speaker 10>She she followed the rules, she got the cho Way

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<v Speaker 10>approval to paint her to paint her.

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<v Speaker 3>House number fifty.

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<v Speaker 10>She did everything exactly right, and she comes home from

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<v Speaker 10>work expecting to see a gray house, and it turns

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<v Speaker 10>out it's green. The choy says, oops, we made a

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<v Speaker 10>mistake on our website where you chose the colors and

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<v Speaker 10>the paint codes.

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<v Speaker 3>They fixed that mistake right, and then they put in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of other legally. But I have a quick

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<v Speaker 3>question though, Guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, is the HOA saying she's not allowed to have

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<v Speaker 4>the green?

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<v Speaker 3>No, sure it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>She doesn't want green, she says, who the hell wants

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<v Speaker 5>to their house puke green?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the last color in the Okay, What I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that it is one I just wanted to know

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<v Speaker 4>as an aside, it is one of the approved color I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know I think. We asked her that Leslie was

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<v Speaker 3>the green.

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<v Speaker 5>Your house is now one of the approved Hi, everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>it was, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is one of them. But you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>the color. Who would want that?

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<v Speaker 20>So the color, the green that I currently have is

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<v Speaker 20>the color fifty three. This is what it was supposed

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<v Speaker 20>to be. Fifty three was supposed to be this green house,

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<v Speaker 20>this green color. However, on the West site when I

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<v Speaker 20>picked it, fifty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Was absolutely a dark green. Yeah, we got it, wet, Brad,

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<v Speaker 3>get right, Yeah, we got it, Brad.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Brad has any responsibility here to repaint her house.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on one more thing for Brad.

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<v Speaker 5>So, Brad, they wanted to compensate her two grand the

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<v Speaker 5>paint jobs eight. And when she said that's not acceptable,

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<v Speaker 5>I might talk to an attorney or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they ghost her.

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<v Speaker 5>Now they say, because you threatened legal action, we're simply

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<v Speaker 5>not going to talk to you anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>We're done.

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<v Speaker 5>So the other thing is in her HOA agreement, Brad,

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<v Speaker 5>there is an arbitration clause as well, and she has

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<v Speaker 5>started that process. But she is telling us that they

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<v Speaker 5>don't even have to respond to the arbitration in any

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<v Speaker 5>certain timeframe. According to the documents. But go ahead, Brad,

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<v Speaker 5>ask questions, give your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is I'm just wondering, Brad, if you think

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<v Speaker 4>they have liability, Well.

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<v Speaker 21>That's that's the ultimate question, and that's I really can't

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<v Speaker 21>tell you. Obviously, it's a case of mistake. A mistake

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<v Speaker 21>was made, and now the HOA is not responsible for

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<v Speaker 21>painting people's houses or paying for paintings people's houses. The

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<v Speaker 21>question is is their mistake that was that Leslie relied

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<v Speaker 21>on something that causes them liability for.

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<v Speaker 7>To redo it. So, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 21>It would take some research on this on how the

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<v Speaker 21>courts of address this kind of question.

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<v Speaker 5>Before Hey, Brad, what does your gut say? Just from

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<v Speaker 5>a common sense standpoint, h Way says, Well, the h

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<v Speaker 5>Way says, you have to do only what we say

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<v Speaker 5>on our website, So go pick it out and your

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<v Speaker 5>contractor will pick up the pain at guy ries, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how well she would have done it.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing I would argue against is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I probably would have been there. I probably would have

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to see a little of the pain on the house.

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<v Speaker 3>I might have wanted done something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, she works all the time, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sorry to interrupt, but I wanted to get that out.

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<v Speaker 21>Well, h way did not approve a green color. They

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<v Speaker 21>approved gray. It was a mistake made that called fifty

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<v Speaker 21>three uh gray when it was really green.

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<v Speaker 7>I think practically speaking.

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<v Speaker 21>You want to find out what's what's the cost to

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<v Speaker 21>fix this? I mean, can can the painting company call

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<v Speaker 21>that a first coat and just do a second coat?

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<v Speaker 11>And it's only four thousand not eight thousand?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 11>Is there some way to go down to the cost to.

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<v Speaker 21>Remediate this so it's not eight maybe it's half that,

858
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 21>and then try to get the HUA to come up

859
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 21>from two to four and get get it still done.

860
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 7>To work this out, because going to court.

861
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 22>Over something that always maybe four thousand with an.

862
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.039
<v Speaker 21>Attorney may not make a lot of sense. And it's

863
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.800
<v Speaker 21>gonna be an attorney feed provision in any HUA where

864
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.199
<v Speaker 21>the prevailing party gets their attorney's paid by the losing party.

865
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 21>So that's that could be more than the amount there

866
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 21>even fighting over.

867
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 3>How much did the paint job costs.

868
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 20>A lesson eight thou.

869
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 5>And I can tell you this, going from a dark

870
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 5>is it a dark green? It looks dark to me?

871
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 5>It going from a dark green to kind of a

872
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 5>lighter is it a light gray or not? I think

873
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 5>you would have to reprime. I think I think it

874
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 5>would show through. But that's a you know, a painter

875
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 5>can tell you.

876
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, you know, repainting it.

877
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 20>Obviously it wouldn't even be enough for me. And so

878
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 20>I actually proposed that to the board they offer to

879
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 20>I went back and said, let's before and that way,

880
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 20>we're cutting the losses down the middle.

881
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 11>And I embraced a.

882
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.559
<v Speaker 20>Pute green House because I have been a citizen here

883
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 20>for the past what seventeen years. I pay my dues

884
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 20>on time. I've never once had even a threat of

885
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 20>any kind of violation, and it really feels like they

886
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 20>just don't care. It's honestly giving me a bad taste

887
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 20>in my mouth. It's like, I'm this is just bad

888
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 20>for the way I feel toward my community now, like

889
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 20>they don't care. I sent in the ADR on May sixth,

890
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 20>so it's been over two weeks. I'm yet to get

891
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 20>a response of any kind. And I did for pose,

892
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 20>you know, four thousand, cutting it down to half, and

893
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 20>they just they don't care.

894
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 9>I would think it was.

895
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, unfortunately, you have to go through the process outlined

896
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.559
<v Speaker 4>in the bylaws, right Brad, which I can.

897
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.079
<v Speaker 21>Yes, there's a plan process in any well drafted y

898
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 21>to eight documents, and she did that.

899
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>We talked about that yesterday.

900
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 5>She she invoked the arbitration clause and sent in the

901
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 5>letter requesting it her She's she doesn't know if they're

902
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 5>ever going to respond to her.

903
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 3>Though I would say they probably have to.

904
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm sure they do. There must be some kind

905
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 4>of penalty if they don't or something. I mean, the

906
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 4>bylaws are there for a reason. They gotta figure they

907
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.800
<v Speaker 4>got to figure this out. This is this is crazy.

908
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can't believe they're not taking responsibility and

909
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.159
<v Speaker 4>just repainting your house. I mean that it seems so

910
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 4>logical to me. I don't see where unless they say, well,

911
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 4>it was part your responsibility for not babysitting it.

912
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:10.719
<v Speaker 3>But I don't see that.

913
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Come on, man, you picked a color appeared by them.

914
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 20>Their defense up to this point has been that I

915
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 20>did not do my due diligence. However, after living in

916
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 20>a community for seventeen years, I actually learned to rely

917
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 20>on the response provided by my AHOA. Why would n't

918
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.320
<v Speaker 20>I If I can't and we probably need a new hoa,

919
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 20>you know, and so I did not think that it

920
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 20>was necessary to question. And furthermore, there was no disclaimer.

921
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 20>I actually sent an additional email early this morning. I'm

922
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 20>not sure whether or not you gentlemen, had a chance

923
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 20>to look at it. A disclaimer was added on March twelfth.

924
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 5>And excuse me, and they should have the disclaimer should

925
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 5>have been there in the beginning.

926
00:46:56.920 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 20>However it was not, so the discreamer wasn't actually at

927
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 20>So after my house is done for it's green, which is.

928
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Good because they listen. That's actually a good thing.

929
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 5>They learned their lesson and they corrected the mistake by

930
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 5>putting a disclaimer up going look at this, what's interesting?

931
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Brad. Let me ask you this.

932
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 5>If she doesn't repaint it, I don't know what kind

933
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 5>of a case she would have. If she does repaint

934
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.280
<v Speaker 5>it and she's out six thousand dollars, then I can

935
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 5>see the monetary damage.

936
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 3>But if she decides to keep it.

937
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 5>Green and not move forward with changing it, what the

938
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 5>hell would you sue for?

939
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 21>Well, green was not an officially approved color, even though

940
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 21>the website said so.

941
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 3>No, it isn't approved color. It's the wrong number.

942
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 4>It is an approved color. She just doesn't like it.

943
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 4>It is technically an approved color.

944
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 11>Okay, now, well that's true. Then she has the right

945
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 11>to keep it green.

946
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Right, and no one's making her change it. That she

947
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 4>does have a right to keep it green. She doesn't

948
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 4>want it green even though she's allowed to keep it green.

949
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 4>The whole point here is their numbering system was mislabeled

950
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 4>and cost her what she considers a paint job because

951
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 4>she would have never painted at this color.

952
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

953
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.800
<v Speaker 4>It's not so much being that it's not approved. The

954
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.840
<v Speaker 4>issue is it's not what she wanted.

955
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 20>And for to take the simplicity, I would have been

956
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 20>willing to embrace the green. At least pay me half

957
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 20>of what I'm in the hole. That can make me

958
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 20>feel a little bit better about it, and life goes on.

959
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 20>At this point, it's like braining my summer.

960
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 4>So what you're saying is, what you're saying is for

961
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 4>enough damages for your pain and suffering, you're willing to

962
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 4>move on, And you're saying two thousand doesn't.

963
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Cut it for it.

964
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 20>I mean, I'm over. I'm not going to get the

965
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:11.960
<v Speaker 20>house repeat because it would cost me moreated.

966
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I know, But here's the problem with the two grand.

967
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.679
<v Speaker 4>To get an extra two grand is going to cost

968
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 4>you more than two grand, right, Brad?

969
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the bottom line.

970
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 4>Now, is small claims court a venue not if it

971
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 4>has an arbitration clause, So go through the arbitration and

972
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 4>ask for more damages. But as Mark pointed out before,

973
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 4>if you're willing to keep the green and no one's

974
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 4>making you change it, then you may have no choice

975
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.079
<v Speaker 4>but to keep it, and then therefore there are no damages.

976
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Because Brad, I mean, if she keeps the color, there

977
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 4>are no monetary damages. H would the courts recognize her

978
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 4>disappointment factor as a damage.

979
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 21>Well, she could argue that it's just not acceptable to her,

980
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:09.039
<v Speaker 21>and that may be a good argument, and and so

981
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 21>therefore the cost to change it to gray is a

982
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 21>measure her damages.

983
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 4>Okay, And even if she doesn't do it, in other words,

984
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Well, she.

985
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 8>Can keep the house in and keep the two thousand dollars.

986
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what she's thinking about. They didn't They didn't

987
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.639
<v Speaker 4>make her repaint. But she's saying she wants to keep

988
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 4>the green and get four thousand dollars, not keep it

989
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 4>and get two. You know, Leslie, I hate saying this,

990
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 4>but at this point it might be worth just keep it.

991
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 20>What's that paint it and it's not costing me anything else.

992
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 12>I'd be happy with that.

993
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 20>But they said it wasn't even an option. It was

994
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.280
<v Speaker 20>pretty much Tavarians or nothing. And now there's not even

995
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 20>any discussions going on about it. I sent another email

996
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 20>telling them let's talk about four thousand, you know, let's negotiate.

997
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 12>And no, Yeah, but they don't want to.

998
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 4>Here's why. Because here's why. Because most of the time

999
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 4>when residents sue hoa's, they lose even if they win,

1000
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 4>because they're fighting with your money.

1001
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.079
<v Speaker 3>They're not fighting with their own money.

1002
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.280
<v Speaker 4>It's not like someone on the board says, oh damn,

1003
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 4>this is gonna cost me.

1004
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 7>They don't.

1005
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.360
<v Speaker 3>It's invisible money to them.

1006
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Everyone chips in hoas are terrible enemies because they have

1007
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.719
<v Speaker 4>no pain in the game.

1008
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:39.960
<v Speaker 3>There's no pain.

1009
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't turn out to be an assessment against every

1010
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 4>homeowner for this lawsuit. It's not gonna hurt them, so

1011
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.480
<v Speaker 4>they don't mind fighting. That's what you have to know

1012
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 4>that there is no upside here for you.

1013
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 3>None none.

1014
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 4>If they don't voluntarily do it, you're not going to

1015
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.880
<v Speaker 4>get it, I would go through the arbitration. They have

1016
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:10.800
<v Speaker 4>to answer the arbitration and just say that I want for.

1017
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

1018
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 20>Is mediation, which I guess would be a step, and

1019
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.599
<v Speaker 20>that would probably even if I was to file.

1020
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 11>In small planes.

1021
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 20>I'm assuming that the judge would probably order mediation even

1022
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 20>prior to accepting the case. That this is what I

1023
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 20>would think.

1024
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 9>Obviously, I'm not an expert.

1025
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they do, Hey, Mark, what did you say? What

1026
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.480
<v Speaker 3>did you say? The arbitration clause says.

1027
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm not staring at it right now, but it basically

1028
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 5>says you have to write them a letter and you

1029
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 5>want to invoke the arbitry arbitration clause, which I did, Okay,

1030
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 5>and she did do that.

1031
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's what you need to do.

1032
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, there's nothing else we can tell you, Angel.

1033
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Everything is dictated by that clause, but there's nothing we can.

1034
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Do about it. I have I'm actually process that you

1035
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 3>agree to.

1036
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.519
<v Speaker 5>I actually think, Leslie, that's the best thing for you.

1037
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 5>Hiring an attorney is gonna cost way more. Arbitration is

1038
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 5>gonna cost you something, for sure, but you might get

1039
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 5>that eight thousand. I mean, you know you've got I

1040
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.239
<v Speaker 5>don't think they're going to show up and lie. So

1041
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.440
<v Speaker 5>really it's gonna come down to, you know, what are

1042
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 5>the facts here? And that's what I was hoping. Brad

1043
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 5>might have dealt with something like this before, but it

1044
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 5>is a pretty unique case. But they acknowledge they messed up.

1045
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 5>They're gonna say that to the arbitrator. I highly doubt

1046
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna lie whatsoever. But Brad, let me just pick

1047
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 5>your brain one more time than we have to take

1048
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.760
<v Speaker 5>a break. Just I know you're not looking all the docs.

1049
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:49.559
<v Speaker 5>In fact, I'm not even looking for legal advice, but

1050
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 5>just based upon the conversation, if everything is factual, how

1051
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 5>do you think an arbitrator would rule on this?

1052
00:53:58.880 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 7>That's a legal question.

1053
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 11>I just not position to answer that right now, fair enough. Also,

1054
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 11>you know there's a duty.

1055
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.559
<v Speaker 7>What duty was did the agent after her?

1056
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.760
<v Speaker 21>But also did she have a duty to make sure

1057
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 21>the paint color was what she was trying to get?

1058
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

1059
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 3>And see that's the big question.

1060
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Did she have any responsibility to follow up when she

1061
00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 4>saw the paint going on the house.

1062
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 5>That is a big That's the first thing I asked her.

1063
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 5>She left for work to contract, her shows up when

1064
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 5>she gets back the paint is ninety percent done.

1065
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's how it went down.

1066
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 5>It's not like you ordered a red car and it

1067
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.119
<v Speaker 5>showed up and you're walking up to it and you go,

1068
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:38.639
<v Speaker 5>wait a second, that's black, not red.

1069
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean she didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know, all right, So listen, maybe this

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<v Speaker 4>is not what you wanted to hear, but you have

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<v Speaker 4>to go through the process, Brian, quickly, your comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Brian.

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<v Speaker 13>Here's the first time when they charged eight and they

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<v Speaker 13>probably had a power wash. They probably had to scrape,

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<v Speaker 13>they probably had to cough, they probably had to do

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of friming. The things they have today. If

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<v Speaker 13>you get a good paint, it comes with timer. I

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<v Speaker 13>cannot see that house. You can more than four thousand

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<v Speaker 13>dollars to redo it. I just can't, including paints and

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<v Speaker 13>everything else. And if she would want me to go

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<v Speaker 13>over and take a look at it, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 13>be able to do it cheaper. And I can show

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<v Speaker 13>her references, and I can show houses I've painted, and

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<v Speaker 13>I won't take any payments until the job is done,

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<v Speaker 13>no material.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing, okay, But but here's the only problem I want.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't want to do it for four She's only

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<v Speaker 4>getting two from the HOA.

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<v Speaker 13>That's why I said it's going to probably be less

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<v Speaker 13>than four. I'll bet it's not even probably around three.

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<v Speaker 13>Worst case scenario, maybe the hoilll get read.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you may hey, hey, Kitchina hook them up in

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<v Speaker 4>case if he wants to go over and look at it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's fine with me. If she's fine with it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martinez. We have more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Help.

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Artino, you're a troubleshooter. Frankarandrealestateman

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's talk to uh. Let's talk to Angel.

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<v Speaker 4>We left off with her before that other problem and

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00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Angel's dad went out. Basically, this is what a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of older people do. Well, people do it in general,

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<v Speaker 4>not just older people. Her father lives in on our

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00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 4>v inner yard. He bought a fifteen thousand dollars new

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00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 4>RV that she says he can't afford. He did it

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<v Speaker 4>with a twenty five hundred dollars check down. Now he

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<v Speaker 4>has to pay the rest. She says he can't afford it. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's not.

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00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Disabled in any way, and you can make a case

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<v Speaker 4>for competence, he's stuck with this purchase unless they will

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<v Speaker 4>let him out of the deal. So will they let

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<v Speaker 4>him out of the deal.

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<v Speaker 14>They are not letting them out of the deal. They

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<v Speaker 14>are basically saying if he doesn't want the camber, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 14>but they're keeping his twenty five.

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<v Speaker 22>Hundred dollars deposit. Okay, and mind Angel, it never less

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<v Speaker 22>a lot.

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<v Speaker 23>I don't know if that matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>People think it does with cars, with RVs, with anything

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<v Speaker 4>he argue, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that mark? People like to argue delivery.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Delivery does not consummate a sale. The sales consummated

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<v Speaker 4>when you put the money down and you sign it. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the deal. What was he thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, his current you're going to trade that in?

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<v Speaker 14>No, it's it's pretty deplorable.

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<v Speaker 5>It's he so well, Okay, it sounds like I just

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<v Speaker 5>got to jump in here. It sounds like he probably

1143
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 5>does need a better place to stay. He's in a

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<v Speaker 5>deplorable RV in your yard.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, yes, okay, he does.

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<v Speaker 18>Okay, you have managed.

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<v Speaker 14>To get him into a better situation. But now it's

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<v Speaker 14>just this twenty five dollars. He's on fixed income.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's got a better Well, I'm sorry, Angel, but

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<v Speaker 5>he's got a he's staying either inside with you guys

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00:58:58.599 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 5>who are in a home.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, or what is the better situation. I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 23>We got him another RV.

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<v Speaker 14>My mother in law have one that he is.

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<v Speaker 23>It's much better.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellution.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, excellent, So Angel, you're gonna you're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to get the twenty five hundred back. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it depends on the contract. What did

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<v Speaker 4>he sign?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you look at the paperwork?

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<v Speaker 22>I did.

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<v Speaker 14>It's it's a lot of jargon. That is a little

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<v Speaker 14>bit over my head. He I will say, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>I don't know if this in our in our view

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<v Speaker 14>it matters. But tell me because you had mentioned dementia.

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<v Speaker 22>He has not been.

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<v Speaker 14>Diagnosed with dementia, but he is in stage COPD. I

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<v Speaker 14>mean he has even with full.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that doesn't that doesn't come into play.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't come into play. Really, I mean, his competence

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<v Speaker 4>is competence. Is he competent it or not? That's really

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<v Speaker 4>And and he knew what he was doing. How did he

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<v Speaker 4>did you ask him how he planned to pay for it?

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<v Speaker 24>I did?

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<v Speaker 14>He has some land in Arizona that he's thinking he

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<v Speaker 14>could just sell to pay for the rest. And it's

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<v Speaker 14>it's I mean, that's a process, right. So the fact

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<v Speaker 14>that he's he told them that he could be back

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<v Speaker 14>with the remaining money, it's like, when you know he

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't have the remaining money.

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<v Speaker 4>So does the contract say when he has to make

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<v Speaker 4>that remaining money?

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<v Speaker 22>Not that I saw.

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<v Speaker 14>I'd be happy to copy it and email it to you.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, I'll be glad to take a look at it

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<v Speaker 10>to see maybe we can spot some imperfections in this contract.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they didn't. Maybe we could just ask.

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<v Speaker 6>Him for half or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Deputy Doc, do you want to call over there and

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<v Speaker 4>see if you can appeal to the better You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know power does he?

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<v Speaker 8>Angel Ill?

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<v Speaker 22>He was born in fifty nine?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, he's five sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he's not too old.

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<v Speaker 14>He is young young bye bye age wise, but like

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<v Speaker 14>I said, he's in stage top. I mean he can't

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<v Speaker 14>even with full oxygen on walk twenty feet without needing

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<v Speaker 14>to stop. You know, he's very disabled in my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying. I'll give him

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<v Speaker 3>a call.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe they'll only to split the difference and we can

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<v Speaker 8>get half it, beat or do something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe they'll do something. All right, Okay, I'm Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martino Trio three.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Shannon, Do I owe you a thirty break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So Joyce has a question on.

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<v Speaker 4>Breaks twenty fifteen jeep Cherokee, Joyce, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 23>We have a twenty fifteen jeep Cherokee latitude. About nine

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<v Speaker 23>months ago we took it in and had the oil changed.

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<v Speaker 23>Shortly after that, we started having problems with the breaks.

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<v Speaker 23>In the morning, we would start the car and the

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<v Speaker 23>brakes would go within an inch of the floor. Within

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<v Speaker 23>three to five minutes, they would cook itself. Last month

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<v Speaker 23>it went two days by doing that. It still stops,

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<v Speaker 23>but I don't think it's safe. We took it to

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<v Speaker 23>the dealers and excise me to the dealership. They said

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<v Speaker 23>there was oil in the break lines. They're the only

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<v Speaker 23>ones that have ever touched the car, So I'd like

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<v Speaker 23>to know what the symptoms would be of oil in

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<v Speaker 23>the client's place.

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<v Speaker 6>It's exactly what you're experiencing because the motor oil can't

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<v Speaker 6>does compress or brake fluid can't compress. That's why it

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<v Speaker 6>works so well. So if you introduce a different fluid

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<v Speaker 6>into the break you're going to have a pedal fade. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>And it happened right after an oil.

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<v Speaker 23>Change, Right after an oil change.

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<v Speaker 3>And they topped off the brake fluid.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know I did they top off, Kevin? What

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<v Speaker 4>would they have done, Kevin? If they're changing the oil,

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't go near the brakes.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't know what services they're doing as far

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<v Speaker 6>as fluid top off, because we top off all other fluids.

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<v Speaker 6>But you should never top the brake fluid off. This

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<v Speaker 6>is not necessary. So I mean it could be fly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, how do you know they did, Joyce. Did you

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<v Speaker 4>come right out and ask them what did they do

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<v Speaker 4>when you brought your your your vehicle in? Did they

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<v Speaker 4>say they topped off the brakes?

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<v Speaker 23>They don't top off any fluids.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, well, then they couldn't have contaminated it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she's saying it did not do it at all

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<v Speaker 3>prior to the service.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, what I'm saying is this, if everything is right,

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<v Speaker 4>if everything is right in the universe, and they simply

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<v Speaker 4>changed your oil, there's no way they contaminated the brake fluid.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin. And you're saying, could it be a master cylinder

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<v Speaker 3>or something else?

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<v Speaker 6>Of course right not. The contamination is external though.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying, the problems she's having, the fading pedal, could

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<v Speaker 5>it be something else?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but she said she was told somebody has.

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<v Speaker 3>Oil in the miss I missed that part.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so based on that they actually did they actually

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<v Speaker 4>tested Joyce or are they guessing at it?

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<v Speaker 23>I don't know. I've got to take the word for it.

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<v Speaker 23>They've redone the entire breaks now, Oh, that was five

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<v Speaker 23>thousand dollars bills and then they charged this wait wait.

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<v Speaker 3>How much?

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<v Speaker 23>Five thousand? They had to replace every break part in there,

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<v Speaker 23>all the lines.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Kevin, she was put together here. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 4>they took they took it advantage of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Joyce.

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<v Speaker 4>You're thinking they're your savior. They took advantage of you.

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<v Speaker 23>No, I don't think they're my savior. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 23>trying to find out because I want to go to

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<v Speaker 23>small flame sport with this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, listen, you approved the work that five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>They did not have to replace every component in your

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<v Speaker 4>brake system, Kevin, even if it was contaminated, would they

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<v Speaker 4>have to do that?

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<v Speaker 6>I would have flushed it first and just saying what

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<v Speaker 6>you know, what issues may ever wrote, you know, come

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<v Speaker 6>from there, but it's overkill.

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<v Speaker 3>Joyce, a five thousand dollars choice.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you that they they they took advantage of

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<v Speaker 4>you five thousand dollars for some contamination.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they replace even your break pads and all of that? Yes, yeah,

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01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.559
<v Speaker 4>they put the screws to you. What they saw was

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<v Speaker 4>someone who was worried about their breaks, and they took

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01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:57.480
<v Speaker 4>advantage of you, and you know what you can't. And

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<v Speaker 4>when you said, well, I can't prove they didn't contaminated,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, then you can't prove a kid didn't come

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<v Speaker 4>and contaminate it. You can't disprove a negative. They they

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<v Speaker 4>just changed your oil and you know your brakes it.

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<v Speaker 4>It might be coincidental, but you can't. First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>the first shop no responsibility whatsoever. The second shop put

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<v Speaker 4>the screws to you. Now here's the problem. If you

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<v Speaker 4>go to small claims court, they're going to say, what

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<v Speaker 4>are you suing for? What are you suing for? Joyce,

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<v Speaker 4>you got what you paid for. You got what you

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01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 4>paid for. I got to take a break. We got

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<v Speaker 4>more coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best

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<v Speaker 4>until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation.

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<v Speaker 4>In comparison, call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three,

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<v Speaker 4>seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're his

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<v Speaker 4>only customer When you choose Frank durand the Real estate

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<v Speaker 4>Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance

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<v Speaker 4>three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three A three seven on

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<v Speaker 4>three days, They get it done and you have months

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<v Speaker 4>to pay. That's renew home Innovations dot Com.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. Uh, Mark loves this beer garden.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, Mark was out at the beer garden asked

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<v Speaker 4>me to fly up and drop in.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark, did you know that Steve is on the line.

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<v Speaker 5>A beer garden generally doesn't brew beer. Steve Moss brews

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<v Speaker 5>all the beer right there at Rock and Roll Brewery.

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<v Speaker 5>They're doing a corn hole tournament tomorrow. You can go

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<v Speaker 5>to Rockenroll dot Beer to sign up and check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>You get two tickets to the racetrack down there, VIP tickets.

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<v Speaker 5>You get a hat Steve. What else do you get?

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<v Speaker 5>I know, you get a free beer.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, you get the VIP ticket to Colorado National Speedway

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01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 12>good for one race. The twenty twenty five season at

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<v Speaker 12>Colorado National Speedway, and you'll get entrance to the Rock

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01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 12>and Rollberry Beer Garden at the track, and you'll get

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<v Speaker 12>VIP parking and that's a lot of money right there.

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01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.840
<v Speaker 12>And then we're going to give you Famous Daves catering.

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<v Speaker 12>It's a complete meal. That's a lot of money right there.

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<v Speaker 12>The ticket price is seventy five dollars each, but most

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<v Speaker 12>of it's has given you pretty stuff. Plus you get

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01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.279
<v Speaker 12>one free beer well and you get you have a

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<v Speaker 12>to win some money.

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<v Speaker 5>You get to check out one of the coolest little breweries.

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<v Speaker 5>He just opened up. He's been brewing beer foreverbody just

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<v Speaker 5>really opened up to the public to brewery and it's

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<v Speaker 5>only open on Saturdays. It's a great time to check

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<v Speaker 5>it out. And Steve, you're forgetting this. That cornhole tournament.

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<v Speaker 5>If someone out there is good at cornhole, there's probably

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be like a five hundred dollars prize pool.

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<v Speaker 12>It depends how many sign up. Right now, we got

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<v Speaker 12>a little over ten, I think, and if it fills up,

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<v Speaker 12>it'll be a five hundred dollars first place. Otherwise, it

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<v Speaker 12>just depends.

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<v Speaker 6>How many got it.

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<v Speaker 12>What we're doing to eliminate the pros you want.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be mixed. I gotta put you on hold,

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01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.159
<v Speaker 3>but everybody, rock and roll that beer.

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<v Speaker 5>Get signed up now it's tomorrow. You're gonna love the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Rock and roll that beer. We got a lot more

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01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:41.479
<v Speaker 5>coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com.

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<v Speaker 15>You don't pay a cent. You're content.

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01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison

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01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:10.920
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1381
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.680
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three o three seven

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01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.000
<v Speaker 4>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1383
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah news, So you don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Come run anxious as fast as you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Show Shooter's gonna help. Come man, This.

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<v Speaker 25>Is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome, my friends, did the only show of it's kind.

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<v Speaker 5>It's car Day and I love Car Day. I got

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<v Speaker 5>Kevin Culkin with me. Deputy dot Deputy Dmitri Dragon just

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<v Speaker 5>showed up on the other side of the eight. Here

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<v Speaker 5>Kelly answering your phones. Here's what we do. You got

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01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:07.279
<v Speaker 5>any problems whatsoever You've been ripped off taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 5>by a mechanic of course because it's car day, or

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01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.600
<v Speaker 5>a contractor, or a dentist, or an attorney or you

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01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:16.079
<v Speaker 5>name it. If you got a problem, you need help

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<v Speaker 5>recouping money.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why this show is here.

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<v Speaker 5>The phone number is so simple, three oh three Martino.

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01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:26.760
<v Speaker 5>That is three zero three Martino. And you can use

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01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:29.079
<v Speaker 5>that number while we're live on the air, and when

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01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.039
<v Speaker 5>we're not here you can use it as well. You

1405
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:34.680
<v Speaker 5>can leave a message. Sometimes we actually answer outside of

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01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:36.920
<v Speaker 5>the show and can help you out right away or

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01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:40.359
<v Speaker 5>we'll call you back generally within twenty four hours. You

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<v Speaker 5>can also email us at help at troubleshooter dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>That's help at troubleshooter dot com. But right now I

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<v Speaker 5>got three lines open three oh three seven to one,

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<v Speaker 5>three eight, two five five.

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<v Speaker 3>We have talked a lot today. We talked about a

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<v Speaker 3>lady in the house paint that com messed up. On

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<v Speaker 3>top of that, we've had a lot of car questions,

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01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:02.399
<v Speaker 3>including Joe Ann. She's got a problem with a dealership

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<v Speaker 3>in Fort Lupton.

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<v Speaker 5>You know the first thing I thought, I'm thinking roly Pirifoid,

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<v Speaker 5>but he sold years ago. What dealership is it? Before anything,

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Anne, I'd love to know.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, it's off road automotives.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's the one we just heard about in that

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01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.960
<v Speaker 3>RV deal. We've heard it.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, Actually this is by far not the first first

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<v Speaker 5>call on this one, nor the r V one. This

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01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:32.680
<v Speaker 5>is curious, and I'm going to look it up on

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<v Speaker 5>the database that we keep a little bit from now.

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<v Speaker 5>But I remember another one although.

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<v Speaker 10>Big pickup truck with cats that needed to be replaced.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they helped them out. But what's going on,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe I just tried to call them, by the way, nothing, we.

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<v Speaker 22>Had a car. I bought a car.

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<v Speaker 20>There.

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<v Speaker 5>You're coming in and out, Joe Anne, Joe Anne, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't hear you at all. I'm gonna put you on hold, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 5>see if you can figure it out. I think she's

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<v Speaker 5>calling from a bad cell area. You called him up

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<v Speaker 5>though over the RV deal And what I did? Did

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<v Speaker 5>you talk to him or what?

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<v Speaker 8>I talked to somebody and they were going to give

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<v Speaker 8>me the uh connect me to the UH to the owner,

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<v Speaker 8>whose name is Adam.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the phone got disconnected.

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<v Speaker 8>So then when I call back, they said Adam was

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<v Speaker 8>not there, and I'm gonna try him to get a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm almost sure Adam came on and I thought he

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<v Speaker 5>took care of I'm trying to find a picture of

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<v Speaker 5>the place here.

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<v Speaker 3>It is right here on Google. I'm not positive, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be able to look it up generally.

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<v Speaker 5>I just asked Suzanne and she can look it up

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<v Speaker 5>in less than a second. But I know we've had

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<v Speaker 5>another issue, and I really did think they came through

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<v Speaker 5>on it, and I'm hoping we can help her out

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<v Speaker 5>when she's in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Good cell area. But three oh three seven.

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<v Speaker 5>One three eight two five five Kevin Coukin, I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to ask you something, man. We have so many calls

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<v Speaker 5>on people that buy a car and I assume that's

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<v Speaker 5>where she is going and they don't have it checked out.

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<v Speaker 5>We all know that's a huge problem, yep, And people

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<v Speaker 5>do it all the time. If you show up to

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<v Speaker 5>a lot and they do not allow you to inspect it,

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<v Speaker 5>simply don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Walk well, you have to, because why else wouldn't they

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<v Speaker 3>let you look at it exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you do a pre purchase, or if anybody

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<v Speaker 5>listening to this on the podcast in another state or

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<v Speaker 5>an area far from you, what are the important things

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<v Speaker 5>to get checked out? I mean, give us a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit of detail. I mean, of course, like tire, tread

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<v Speaker 5>and turn the engine on. But should you get a

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<v Speaker 5>compression check, give us an idea of what to do.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't really need compression so much anymore because the

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<v Speaker 6>computers can pick up on misfires and things with low compression,

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<v Speaker 6>So I would recommend compression if you have a missfire obviously. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>we start with a you know, computer analysis. Check for

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<v Speaker 6>codes text, see if the computer's just been recently reset.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, because that's a big that's a big.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they got codes. They don't want you to

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<v Speaker 6>see it, so before you come pick it up, they clear.

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<v Speaker 6>So if the monitors not reset, that indicates that this

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<v Speaker 6>computer has been reset, and I would fail it just

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<v Speaker 6>for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you actually reset the computer to where you don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if it's been reset or deleted codes?

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<v Speaker 6>No, because when you reset it, it resets what they

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01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 6>call the monitors, and each car has a different drive pattern.

1489
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 6>It needs to go through for the monitors to come

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01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:23.800
<v Speaker 6>back live again. Got it. So if you get in

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01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.159
<v Speaker 6>on the scan or you say monitors have not reset,

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01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:28.800
<v Speaker 6>that's an indication that somebody just cleared.

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01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, what else do you check? What do you

1494
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:32.520
<v Speaker 3>what do you leaks of?

1495
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:35.680
<v Speaker 6>The biggest thing? You know, get it up on a lift,

1496
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:38.680
<v Speaker 6>look around, see if it's obviously been wrecked. You know,

1497
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.640
<v Speaker 6>different things. Take it well. You know, after a test drive,

1498
01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 6>it goes up on the air. So we want to

1499
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:47.359
<v Speaker 6>see if it's pulling, shaking, wiggling, you know, just to

1500
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:49.840
<v Speaker 6>make sure it's just shaken. We look at the tire

1501
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:53.239
<v Speaker 6>war but no, we don't do an alignment as a as.

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01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:55.439
<v Speaker 3>A check out, but I mean an alignment check now sure, No.

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01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 6>You can tell from the tires in the way right,

1504
01:16:57.840 --> 01:16:58.239
<v Speaker 6>and then.

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01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.720
<v Speaker 5>Of course you're looking at tires. That's a note. How

1506
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 5>about the interior? I mean, do you guys even get

1507
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.399
<v Speaker 5>to the point where you're making sure like the air

1508
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:06.319
<v Speaker 5>conditioner works.

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01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:08.840
<v Speaker 6>No, that's not. That's all part of the checkout. Heater,

1510
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:12.159
<v Speaker 6>air conditioning, everything, you actually hook up the We just

1511
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.520
<v Speaker 6>we just visually, you know, turn it on, check to

1512
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:18.239
<v Speaker 6>see if the events change. Because somebody car temperature, temperature drops,

1513
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, does the defrost come on, come off? The heat,

1514
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:22.680
<v Speaker 6>the floor, you know, everything in the heater.

1515
01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:23.479
<v Speaker 3>It's expensive.

1516
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 6>You get in and you need to replace actuators. It's

1517
01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:28.000
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars on some of these.

1518
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.319
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, if you needed a compressor or something on

1519
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:31.600
<v Speaker 5>the AC, it'd be crazy.

1520
01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you're right about like power lock stores.

1521
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 6>You check all that, all that everything we got to

1522
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, a long list of tech. I have one

1523
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:40.359
<v Speaker 6>specific tech who does.

1524
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:41.479
<v Speaker 3>It, and that's what he does.

1525
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 6>That's what he does.

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01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 5>What do you, guys, what should a company charge for it?

1527
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm not what do you charge?

1528
01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:47.119
<v Speaker 3>It's towards success.

1529
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.479
<v Speaker 6>We keep it cheap. We keep it at one twenty.

1530
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:52.039
<v Speaker 5>And that checks the whole thing outp yep. And then

1531
01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:55.439
<v Speaker 5>if you do find something, well you're always going to

1532
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:58.800
<v Speaker 5>find something. Well maybe not always, but generally. And then

1533
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.359
<v Speaker 5>you give them a report.

1534
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:02.359
<v Speaker 6>A report so they can go back and either negotiate

1535
01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:03.079
<v Speaker 6>the price.

1536
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.760
<v Speaker 5>Because you're gonna tell them how much it is, Like, hey,

1537
01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:06.560
<v Speaker 5>the AC is not working because of this.

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01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:07.000
<v Speaker 12>Yep.

1539
01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:09.119
<v Speaker 5>If you turn on the AC though, and the AC

1540
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:11.600
<v Speaker 5>is not working, do you go back out to him

1541
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.720
<v Speaker 5>and say, well, you definitely have a problem with TAC,

1542
01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:16.119
<v Speaker 5>then we can dig into it more.

1543
01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:16.680
<v Speaker 6>Exactly.

1544
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:20.800
<v Speaker 3>That's gonna cost money, exactly, we can't check you're not working.

1545
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:21.920
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be able to tell them.

1546
01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:23.680
<v Speaker 6>Now, we'll give them a window. You got anywhere between

1547
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:25.399
<v Speaker 6>one hundred and two gram to fix the AC.

1548
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:28.760
<v Speaker 5>That's yeah, that's pretty cool, all right? Three oh three seven, one,

1549
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:33.239
<v Speaker 5>three eight two five five? Hey, Kelly, is Violet on

1550
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:36.319
<v Speaker 5>two or one? I see two lines one name. I'm

1551
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:40.880
<v Speaker 5>not sure what to go to, and I will just

1552
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:41.720
<v Speaker 5>go to this line.

1553
01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:48.439
<v Speaker 3>Who's this? You're on the air, Hey, Joe Ann, go ahead.

1554
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 22>I bought a car at Off Road Automotive and Portland, PA.

1555
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you got a better connection now, yep, go ahead.

1556
01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:58.479
<v Speaker 5>You bought it at Off Road Automotive, Fort Lupton. How

1557
01:18:58.520 --> 01:18:59.439
<v Speaker 5>long ago did you buy it?

1558
01:18:59.560 --> 01:18:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Joe Anne?

1559
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:02.079
<v Speaker 22>Last January?

1560
01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:02.720
<v Speaker 3>A year ago?

1561
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:03.359
<v Speaker 6>What is it?

1562
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:07.560
<v Speaker 22>And then I went Ober last year?

1563
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 5>Joe Anne, Joe Anne, I'm sorry two things you said

1564
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:13.720
<v Speaker 5>a year ago, January being six months ago or January

1565
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.079
<v Speaker 5>being eighteen months ago?

1566
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 22>Eighteen months ago?

1567
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So in what kind of car was it?

1568
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:25.680
<v Speaker 22>There was a twenty ten Toyota Cameri hybrid.

1569
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Got it and what's going on with it? Eighteen months

1570
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:29.800
<v Speaker 5>after you bought it?

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01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:33.600
<v Speaker 22>Okay, well after I bought it in January or twenty

1572
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:37.000
<v Speaker 22>twenty four. In October twenty twenty four, it's the whole

1573
01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:40.239
<v Speaker 22>car just started shaking. My grandson said, Grandma, why are

1574
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 22>you shaking the car? I said, I'm not shaking it.

1575
01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:44.039
<v Speaker 22>I'm just driving. And the whole engine felt like he

1576
01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:44.960
<v Speaker 22>was going to fall apart.

1577
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. So I stopped it.

1578
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:48.760
<v Speaker 22>I called the off road. I called the mechanic. Is

1579
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 22>my hell, isn't it? That's his name, the mechanic. I said,

1580
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:53.279
<v Speaker 22>I don't know what's going on with my car. Can

1581
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 22>he come and check it? So he came and checked it.

1582
01:19:55.239 --> 01:19:56.800
<v Speaker 22>He started it, and he drove it off. He said,

1583
01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:59.000
<v Speaker 22>oh yeah, something's wrong. So he drove it to the shop.

1584
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.960
<v Speaker 22>And then I have I had a two year extended

1585
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.079
<v Speaker 22>warranty for the engine and the transmission.

1586
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:08.520
<v Speaker 5>Hey, joe Anne, Joeanne, hold on to slow down, slow down.

1587
01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 5>I just want to make sure I get all this.

1588
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:14.560
<v Speaker 5>This all happened with this shaking and you calling him?

1589
01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:19.920
<v Speaker 5>When what month was that? In twenty twenty four October? Okay,

1590
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.760
<v Speaker 5>so not very long ago. And then then what.

1591
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:27.239
<v Speaker 22>And then they had my car October. I made my

1592
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:33.439
<v Speaker 22>payment October, November, December, January, and he still had my car.

1593
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.520
<v Speaker 22>He said, well, what's going on my car? He said, well,

1594
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:38.359
<v Speaker 22>the warranty is not going to pay for this. You

1595
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:39.920
<v Speaker 22>need to pay money out of your pocket.

1596
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:41.279
<v Speaker 3>What was the diagnosis?

1597
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:42.079
<v Speaker 22>I don't have money.

1598
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:43.359
<v Speaker 3>What was the diagnosis?

1599
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:45.640
<v Speaker 22>He doesn't even know. He doesn't even know. I have

1600
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 22>no clue what the diagnosed.

1601
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, then how does he know, Joe Anne, that makes

1602
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:53.239
<v Speaker 5>zero sense. And that might be what he told you,

1603
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:55.800
<v Speaker 5>But if he doesn't know what's wrong, how would he

1604
01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:57.079
<v Speaker 5>know that it was denied?

1605
01:20:58.880 --> 01:20:59.079
<v Speaker 8>Right?

1606
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:02.319
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, exactly, But he just wants money out of my pocket.

1607
01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just so when did he tell you this?

1608
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:08.079
<v Speaker 3>I assumed this was in October.

1609
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:10.279
<v Speaker 22>October and November December.

1610
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I've been where's the car now?

1611
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:17.800
<v Speaker 22>Well, there was that also there. They were supposed to

1612
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:19.760
<v Speaker 22>take that. They didn't fix it. So I had a

1613
01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:25.159
<v Speaker 22>tow truck tow it to Brian to Christian.

1614
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Utto Christian brothers, Yeah, go ahead. What did Christian brothers say?

1615
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:31.760
<v Speaker 22>Okay? Yeah? And then Scott called me back from there

1616
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:33.279
<v Speaker 22>and he said, you want I can't work on your

1617
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:35.800
<v Speaker 22>car your engine has one bolt on it and there's

1618
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:36.960
<v Speaker 22>no transmission in there.

1619
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.199
<v Speaker 3>Well wait a minute, what whoa whoa, whoa whoa. So

1620
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 3>you never saw the vehicle because you added toad from

1621
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.399
<v Speaker 3>off road Automotive over to Christian Brothers and they're telling

1622
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:51.800
<v Speaker 3>you literally the engine is barely being held in and

1623
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:55.479
<v Speaker 3>the transmission is gone correct.

1624
01:21:55.800 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, this sounds crazy. Now did you warned them

1625
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:03.520
<v Speaker 5>a tow truck was coming? Is it possible they were

1626
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:06.039
<v Speaker 5>working on it? I mean, where are we at here?

1627
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:09.720
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he's well he wasn't.

1628
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:12.720
<v Speaker 22>I said, can I take this? He said, you can

1629
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:15.560
<v Speaker 22>pick up your basil and have it somebody, take somebody

1630
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:18.199
<v Speaker 22>else and work on it. That'll offer your up. I said,

1631
01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:20.319
<v Speaker 22>I I'll take it somewhere that I'll offer my warranty.

1632
01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:22.640
<v Speaker 22>And then then and then not Christian Brothers.

1633
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:28.079
<v Speaker 5>Let's let's before before I start discussing off road automotive,

1634
01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 5>a couple of things.

1635
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.239
<v Speaker 3>One, is it still a Christian Brothers right now?

1636
01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 22>No, they just had a.

1637
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Toad to.

1638
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:39.079
<v Speaker 22>I fainted parking ticket for a sixty dollars parking ticket,

1639
01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:42.760
<v Speaker 22>and then writing police department is notified me that it

1640
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:47.880
<v Speaker 22>got towed to thirty eighth in federal I believe, So help.

1641
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Me out here. So why did it get towed? Did

1642
01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Christian hold On show in? I don't know why did

1643
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:55.640
<v Speaker 3>it get towd I don't know who told it.

1644
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:56.920
<v Speaker 11>I'm not sure.

1645
01:22:57.079 --> 01:22:58.359
<v Speaker 22>I have to talk to the officer.

1646
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:03.000
<v Speaker 5>The last place. It was Christian Brothers right right. So

1647
01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't logic tell you that they had it towed? I'm

1648
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.119
<v Speaker 5>sure they did because it was probably because you didn't

1649
01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:13.079
<v Speaker 5>approve their work.

1650
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Did they try to get well, how would they even

1651
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:16.720
<v Speaker 3>get warranty work?

1652
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:19.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean at this point, if I was a warranty company,

1653
01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:22.600
<v Speaker 5>I would I would void the claim anyhow. There's no

1654
01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:25.840
<v Speaker 5>damn transmission in the car. I mean, of course you would.

1655
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:28.840
<v Speaker 5>You can't even figure it out. So have you called

1656
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:32.479
<v Speaker 5>back let's let's talk logically now. Have you called back

1657
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:36.399
<v Speaker 5>off Road Automotive and asked where the transmission is or

1658
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.439
<v Speaker 5>why your car was this torn apart?

1659
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:41.119
<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

1660
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.920
<v Speaker 22>I asked him, I got to have my car back

1661
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:46.520
<v Speaker 22>total winter, and you put my transmission and my engine

1662
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:48.880
<v Speaker 22>back and I could take it to somebody that'll honor

1663
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.479
<v Speaker 22>the warranty. And he said, I'll charge you to.

1664
01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:52.319
<v Speaker 12>Put your stuff back in.

1665
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:56.119
<v Speaker 5>We got to get their side to this story. This

1666
01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:59.840
<v Speaker 5>whole thing is really crazy, and honestly, I'm not so sure.

1667
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:03.720
<v Speaker 5>I I, Joeanne, you did everything wrong.

1668
01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what they owed you. Do you

1669
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.640
<v Speaker 3>have a copy? Real quick? Do you have a copy

1670
01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:08.439
<v Speaker 3>of that warranty?

1671
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:10.319
<v Speaker 22>I do?

1672
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:13.359
<v Speaker 5>Okay, hold on, Kelly, I want a copy of that

1673
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:18.439
<v Speaker 5>warranty sent over, something that we can actually read. I'm wondering.

1674
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:20.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't even think the warranty matters at this point.

1675
01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Where's the car?

1676
01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:26.239
<v Speaker 5>The car has been towed to some yard where she's

1677
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:27.239
<v Speaker 5>gonna owe money on it.

1678
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, simply, where's the car. I already asked her.

1679
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.640
<v Speaker 5>That, no, she doesn't know Christian brothers. I'm sure had

1680
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:35.760
<v Speaker 5>it picked up because it probably sat there for a

1681
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:38.159
<v Speaker 5>month and they don't want it there. So I got

1682
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:40.560
<v Speaker 5>no problem with that, because she should have moved it,

1683
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:43.039
<v Speaker 5>but she didn't. She should have had it towed as

1684
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.239
<v Speaker 5>soon as they said, hey, there's nothing we can do.

1685
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.039
<v Speaker 5>There's no transmission in this car, and there truly isn't.

1686
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.000
<v Speaker 5>And if she didn't come pick it up or get

1687
01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 5>it towed, I would have towed it too. But everybody,

1688
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:55.239
<v Speaker 5>hold tight, We're gonna get to the bottom with that,

1689
01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 5>and then we've got another issue with an auto sale.

1690
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:05.000
<v Speaker 5>This is nuts.

1691
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.359
<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

1692
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:11.039
<v Speaker 4>dot com.

1693
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:13.079
<v Speaker 15>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1694
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Wait time for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison

1695
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:23.359
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1696
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:26.119
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1697
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:29.000
<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

1698
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:31.319
<v Speaker 4>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

1699
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:34.680
<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:51.199
<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:54.600
<v Speaker 5>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

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01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:55.640
<v Speaker 5>five five.

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01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Three oh three Martino.

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01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, during the break, Kevin pointed out something about

1705
01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:02.039
<v Speaker 5>off road automotive. But I'm going to go back to

1706
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:04.800
<v Speaker 5>that call because Kelly is going to try to reach

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01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:07.520
<v Speaker 5>out to who we believe as the owner, Adam. And

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01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:12.479
<v Speaker 5>before I start talking about their BBB stuff and other stuff,

1709
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:15.479
<v Speaker 5>I want to give them an opportunity to come on.

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01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:18.680
<v Speaker 5>So I want you to hold on, Joe Anne, You

1711
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:20.880
<v Speaker 5>just hold on right there. I do want to give

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01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:23.239
<v Speaker 5>them an opportunity to come on and talk about this,

1713
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.119
<v Speaker 5>But the bottom line is, really you bought it. You

1714
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:28.960
<v Speaker 5>bought the warranty on it. No, you know what, I

1715
01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:30.319
<v Speaker 5>don't care what happened here.

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01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:30.960
<v Speaker 3>You did.

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01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:33.319
<v Speaker 5>You bought it, You bought it with the warranty. Now

1718
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:35.880
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't even have a transmission in it. I mean,

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01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:39.319
<v Speaker 5>that's absolutely insane. I don't even know what good I

1720
01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:43.359
<v Speaker 5>can say. Usually I would be going, Joe Anne, you

1721
01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:46.640
<v Speaker 5>bought it as is, but first of all, you didn't.

1722
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:47.800
<v Speaker 3>You bought it with a warranty.

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01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:52.239
<v Speaker 5>Now that warranty might have only covered the powertrain, but

1724
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.760
<v Speaker 5>that still doesn't matter because at this point there's no

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01:26:56.840 --> 01:27:01.359
<v Speaker 5>transmission in it. It's absolutely the crazy call ever. In fact,

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01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:03.079
<v Speaker 5>Joe Anne, I just want to go over a few

1727
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:05.600
<v Speaker 5>things real quick. But but I'm not gonna I don't

1728
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:08.119
<v Speaker 5>want to dig into the off road automotive side. I

1729
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 5>want to understand the chain of events. You bought it

1730
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:15.279
<v Speaker 5>last year, eighteen months ago in October. You had a problem,

1731
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.119
<v Speaker 5>but you did buy a two year warranty with the

1732
01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:20.960
<v Speaker 5>vehicle that had how many miles on it?

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01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:24.159
<v Speaker 3>It should have been covered, right, that's your contention.

1734
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:26.039
<v Speaker 7>At least correct.

1735
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you bring it back to them.

1736
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:30.279
<v Speaker 5>They told you bring it back in, we'll try it,

1737
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:32.479
<v Speaker 5>we'll look at it and fix it. And then they

1738
01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:35.920
<v Speaker 5>said the warranty company will not cover it.

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01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:41.399
<v Speaker 22>Right, Yeah, they did some motor mounds or something. They

1740
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:42.760
<v Speaker 22>didn't even need motor mountains.

1741
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Well, wait a minute, way to see, joe Anne, though,

1742
01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:48.960
<v Speaker 5>that's an important part. When it's shaking like that, the

1743
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:52.279
<v Speaker 5>first thing I would think about is motor mounts.

1744
01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:55.760
<v Speaker 6>Uh huh, Kevin, Right, yeah, definitely that could cause vibrations,

1745
01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:56.640
<v Speaker 6>all kinds of problems.

1746
01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:59.079
<v Speaker 5>And listen, joe Anne, here's what I'm trying to say.

1747
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:05.960
<v Speaker 5>If you're warranty, Joanne, listen to me. If if it

1748
01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:09.720
<v Speaker 5>needed motor mounts, that warranty might have been a powertrain

1749
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:15.800
<v Speaker 5>warranty only. So therefore the warranty company wouldn't have covered

1750
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:16.680
<v Speaker 5>the motor mounts.

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01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:18.319
<v Speaker 3>That would have been money you had to pay out

1752
01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:21.479
<v Speaker 3>a pocket. Did they actually put the motor mounts in?

1753
01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Did that fix it? Or you don't know?

1754
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.279
<v Speaker 22>He said. The mechanic said no, it was still shaken

1755
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:33.319
<v Speaker 22>doing the same thing.

1756
01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:36.359
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so it still had some kind of problem after

1757
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:39.640
<v Speaker 5>the motor mounts. That makes sense because at that point,

1758
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:43.680
<v Speaker 5>at some time, Kevin, they removed the transmission.

1759
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.159
<v Speaker 6>Which makes no sense. I don't know why they take

1760
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:46.159
<v Speaker 6>the transmission out.

1761
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Well didn't you say only didn't?

1762
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:52.199
<v Speaker 5>Didn't the new company that got it, Christian Brothers, didn't

1763
01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:54.680
<v Speaker 5>they say there was only like one or two bolts

1764
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:56.199
<v Speaker 5>keeping the engine in.

1765
01:28:57.800 --> 01:28:59.920
<v Speaker 22>Yes, and there's no transmission in there, and.

1766
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:04.800
<v Speaker 5>There's no transmission maybe, I mean, Kevin, what it truly

1767
01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:09.159
<v Speaker 5>makes no sense. It truly makes no sense. Kelly tried

1768
01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:11.359
<v Speaker 5>to get them on because I got to be honest.

1769
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:13.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, my head's ready to explode.

1770
01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:16.760
<v Speaker 6>How long was it a Christian Brothers before it was told?

1771
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1772
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:20.239
<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, that's an entirely different question, but go ahead,

1773
01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:21.119
<v Speaker 5>what Joe Anne?

1774
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:23.119
<v Speaker 3>How long was it Derek? Christian Brothers.

1775
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:25.279
<v Speaker 5>They must have called you up and said there's no

1776
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:27.279
<v Speaker 5>transmission pretty damn quick.

1777
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:31.239
<v Speaker 22>Correct, Yeah, they can't even work on it. And he

1778
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:31.880
<v Speaker 22>called me back.

1779
01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Did he say, hey, get it towed out of here

1780
01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:35.279
<v Speaker 3>or whatever?

1781
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:35.520
<v Speaker 7>Right?

1782
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:36.640
<v Speaker 3>He said, come pick it up?

1783
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

1784
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:40.760
<v Speaker 22>Huh, okay, perfect, pay one hundred and fifty dollars to

1785
01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:42.960
<v Speaker 22>get it, Toad. And then and then I had to

1786
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:44.760
<v Speaker 22>pay a parking ticket on top of that.

1787
01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:48.359
<v Speaker 5>Wait, you just totally lost me. So when you had it,

1788
01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.640
<v Speaker 5>Toad from Christian Brothers. Where did you toe it?

1789
01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:52.960
<v Speaker 13>No?

1790
01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:54.680
<v Speaker 22>No, no, it was still it was still there. I

1791
01:29:54.720 --> 01:30:00.319
<v Speaker 22>hadn't I hadn't had it toad parking ticket? Hat it?

1792
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:05.039
<v Speaker 5>Hold on, Joanne, Joeanne, hold on, hold on, hold on.

1793
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:09.600
<v Speaker 5>It gets towed over with no transmission to Christian Brothers.

1794
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:12.960
<v Speaker 5>They call you up and say there's nothing we can do.

1795
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:16.760
<v Speaker 5>There's no transmission. You're good, all right, you got to

1796
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:17.680
<v Speaker 5>watch your language.

1797
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Listen.

1798
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:19.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to put you on the hold for a second.

1799
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Kelly is talking apparently to someone over there. I'm going

1800
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:25.840
<v Speaker 5>to put her on hold. But it's like two different

1801
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.279
<v Speaker 5>problems with her. I don't even know where the car

1802
01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:30.279
<v Speaker 5>is at this point. Yeah, I don't know if it

1803
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 5>was toad because she had outstanding parking tickets.

1804
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:35.239
<v Speaker 6>And Christian Brothers pushing the street. I mean.

1805
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:39.479
<v Speaker 3>She literally said she paid one hundred and fifty for.

1806
01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:41.399
<v Speaker 6>To get a toad to Christian Brook.

1807
01:30:41.479 --> 01:30:44.079
<v Speaker 5>I think she was talking about afterwards. But we're going

1808
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.479
<v Speaker 5>to find out. Hey, Violet, what's going on with you?

1809
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:51.239
<v Speaker 22>Yes, we just a.

1810
01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:57.199
<v Speaker 18>Friend just sold our vehicle. I'm the widow of a

1811
01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:59.279
<v Speaker 18>twenty year force veteran.

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01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh I am, I'm so sorry, Violet.

1813
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:03.680
<v Speaker 22>Thank you.

1814
01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:05.840
<v Speaker 18>Thank you for taking my call.

1815
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:06.279
<v Speaker 11>Mark.

1816
01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:10.279
<v Speaker 3>So what So how long ago did your husband pass?

1817
01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:15.319
<v Speaker 18>Eight months ago? But I've been dealing with a lot

1818
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:15.840
<v Speaker 18>of things.

1819
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sure you have.

1820
01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 5>But let's we're going to kind of stick to the

1821
01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:21.680
<v Speaker 5>car issue you're having right now. So he passed eight

1822
01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:24.800
<v Speaker 5>months ago, and you didn't need that car anymore?

1823
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:27.399
<v Speaker 3>So you had someone to help me?

1824
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:32.880
<v Speaker 18>Yes, I stopped driving many years ago. My husband always

1825
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 18>just gotten the driver's seat.

1826
01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>And who sold the car? Who did did you sell

1827
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:40.319
<v Speaker 3>the car?

1828
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:44.239
<v Speaker 18>No, sir, a friend did it for me. He is

1829
01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:45.760
<v Speaker 18>a be a volunteer.

1830
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he sold the car.

1831
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:51.880
<v Speaker 5>So what is the problem with this car sale?

1832
01:31:52.640 --> 01:32:00.159
<v Speaker 18>Well, I don't know. The friend just texted me a

1833
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.640
<v Speaker 18>while ago. He said he's very busy today and he

1834
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:07.520
<v Speaker 18>can't really. He just told me, don't do anything. And

1835
01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:10.319
<v Speaker 18>I said, well, you know you've helped me, be.

1836
01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Ay, Violet, Violet helped me out, help me out.

1837
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:16.640
<v Speaker 5>Just a couple quick questions, and I'm going to come

1838
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:18.319
<v Speaker 5>back to you because I got to take this break.

1839
01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:20.680
<v Speaker 5>But where is the car now? Is it in your

1840
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:25.319
<v Speaker 5>possession or this person has it? Where is it?

1841
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:28.279
<v Speaker 18>It's in the buyer's possession?

1842
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:30.199
<v Speaker 22>And who was last week?

1843
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Did you get paid for it?

1844
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:35.600
<v Speaker 12>I guess my.

1845
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:40.920
<v Speaker 18>Friend did, and then he deposited. Is the account in

1846
01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:42.960
<v Speaker 18>my bank account?

1847
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so you got the amount? How much is it?

1848
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:47.800
<v Speaker 5>Out of curiosity.

1849
01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:52.640
<v Speaker 18>The amount? Here's my friend, he said, Okay, can I can?

1850
01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I just you're going to put him on.

1851
01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:58.840
<v Speaker 18>No, he didn't give me permission to do that.

1852
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, hold on, Hold on a second. I'm getting very concerned.

1853
01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:04.399
<v Speaker 5>Let me put you on hold. I'm getting very concerned. Everybody,

1854
01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:04.760
<v Speaker 5>Hold tight.

1855
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best rufer excel roofing

1856
01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:17.000
<v Speaker 4>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1857
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

1858
01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:27.199
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1859
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:30.000
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1860
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:30.520
<v Speaker 4>to seven to one.

1861
01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Help.

1862
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:33.720
<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

1863
01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

1864
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:39.399
<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

1865
01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:40.520
<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two.

1866
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:48.119
<v Speaker 3>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

1867
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:51.119
<v Speaker 3>five to five. What was that lady's name? Kelly? We

1868
01:33:51.159 --> 01:33:54.079
<v Speaker 3>were just talking to someone fine, Hey, violent listen.

1869
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:57.479
<v Speaker 5>You dropped off and I'm very uh, I'm very nervous

1870
01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:59.880
<v Speaker 5>for you. It's a parent You listen to the show.

1871
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:02.359
<v Speaker 5>I want you to call back if you want to

1872
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:05.359
<v Speaker 5>talk off the air. I'm going to have no problem

1873
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:08.039
<v Speaker 5>like that. What I'm afraid of is you got a

1874
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:12.479
<v Speaker 5>text from somebody or communication from somebody that has something

1875
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.439
<v Speaker 5>to do with this car, and they told you not

1876
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:18.640
<v Speaker 5>to talk on the air. I don't care what anybody

1877
01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:21.520
<v Speaker 5>told you. You listen to me. You trust me. I

1878
01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:24.439
<v Speaker 5>know that I could tell that in your voice. You

1879
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.479
<v Speaker 5>need to call us back if you don't want to

1880
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.880
<v Speaker 5>come on the air. I have no problem with that.

1881
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:33.079
<v Speaker 5>I will help you off the air. But I need

1882
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:36.359
<v Speaker 5>you to call back because I have a very bad

1883
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:40.439
<v Speaker 5>feeling of what's going on. In fact, it might even

1884
01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:43.760
<v Speaker 5>be to the point I'm worried about your safety. I

1885
01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:47.199
<v Speaker 5>need you to call back. Okay, I'm trying to get

1886
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 5>through to you.

1887
01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:48.279
<v Speaker 3>I know you.

1888
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.960
<v Speaker 5>Listen, and if anybody knows her, by any chance, a neighbor,

1889
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:55.359
<v Speaker 5>or if she happens to be in a home or something,

1890
01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:57.039
<v Speaker 5>please let.

1891
01:34:56.960 --> 01:35:00.800
<v Speaker 26>Us know she has a person and that is with her.

1892
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:05.720
<v Speaker 26>That is power of attorney, that was there and was

1893
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.640
<v Speaker 26>not willing to come on air on her back.

1894
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:11.840
<v Speaker 3>How do we know it was someone that was power

1895
01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:13.119
<v Speaker 3>of attorney.

1896
01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:13.880
<v Speaker 26>Because she told me that.

1897
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, I.

1898
01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Don't know what she knows. I find it very strange

1899
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:22.079
<v Speaker 5>what just happens. So I'm going to say this then

1900
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:26.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure she's still listening. If there is truly a

1901
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:29.600
<v Speaker 5>power of attorney there, please call back. You don't have

1902
01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.520
<v Speaker 5>to come on the air, but I am truly worried

1903
01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:35.800
<v Speaker 5>about her, So I would love for you to call.

1904
01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.600
<v Speaker 5>You do not have to come on the air. Call

1905
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:43.319
<v Speaker 5>the three ZHO three Martino right now. Please and just

1906
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:46.840
<v Speaker 5>give Kelly some real basic information and let her talk

1907
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.119
<v Speaker 5>to Violet real quick and make sure everything's cool, or

1908
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:53.399
<v Speaker 5>I'll do it. I do not like what just happened

1909
01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:59.279
<v Speaker 5>on any level whatsoever. Now we're going to go back

1910
01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:03.199
<v Speaker 5>to Joe Anne with the issue with off Road Automotive.

1911
01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:08.000
<v Speaker 5>Somehow her car now has no transmission. There's other issues

1912
01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:13.199
<v Speaker 5>about towing and stuff I quite frankly don't care about. Now,

1913
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:16.119
<v Speaker 5>you tried to reach out to off Road Automotive and

1914
01:36:16.159 --> 01:36:18.039
<v Speaker 5>the owner, Adam or the GM Adam.

1915
01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:19.399
<v Speaker 3>Kelly, what happened?

1916
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:22.640
<v Speaker 26>Yeah, So I talked to Ricardo. He's in the sales department.

1917
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:27.600
<v Speaker 26>He passed me on and unfortunately I was unable to

1918
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:30.600
<v Speaker 26>leave a voicemail because the voice mailbox was full.

1919
01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Did it say at least hello, I'm Adam or what

1920
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:33.319
<v Speaker 3>did it say?

1921
01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:33.560
<v Speaker 17>Now?

1922
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Was an automotive do me a favor.

1923
01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:38.560
<v Speaker 5>And put up their telephone number under the notes there

1924
01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:41.000
<v Speaker 5>the one that you called that we know is correct.

1925
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.880
<v Speaker 5>And then you had an update on another call we

1926
01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:47.560
<v Speaker 5>got today, I assume on off road Automotive.

1927
01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:48.439
<v Speaker 3>I've been researching.

1928
01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.399
<v Speaker 10>I've been researching the matter of off road Automative Automotive

1929
01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:54.239
<v Speaker 10>and Adam Landkember because of the two calls we got

1930
01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:55.239
<v Speaker 10>on them today.

1931
01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Two calls in one day, folks.

1932
01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:59.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, within about an hour. And last month they filed

1933
01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:04.000
<v Speaker 10>for bankruptcy. Oh crap, both thought Road Automotive and Adam, which,

1934
01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.079
<v Speaker 10>as you know, usually happens in pairs.

1935
01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:09.680
<v Speaker 3>So they're final. First they're in the US bankers say

1936
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.720
<v Speaker 3>in a chapter eleven. So here's the deal. Let me

1937
01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:16.199
<v Speaker 3>go back to this is this is crazy.

1938
01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:19.199
<v Speaker 5>So Joe Anne, I'm going to give you you're actually

1939
01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:21.560
<v Speaker 5>in a better place than you were a minute ago.

1940
01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Now everybody out there is going how's that possible? All right?

1941
01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean even you, Dimitri, you're probably saying that I'm wondering, how.

1942
01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:31.760
<v Speaker 5>Is that possible? I'll tell you how that's possible. There's

1943
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:33.000
<v Speaker 5>a trustee involved.

1944
01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Now. This trustee is going to help you. You if

1945
01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:42.119
<v Speaker 3>you don't get notification, you're going to notify the trustee.

1946
01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Do you have the trustees info? Dmitri?

1947
01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, right now, no individual has been appointed, that just

1948
01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:50.800
<v Speaker 10>says us trustee at the Byron g Rogers Federal Building.

1949
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:53.880
<v Speaker 5>So you should you. We're going to help you and

1950
01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:56.680
<v Speaker 5>follow you along with just Joe Anne. The problem is

1951
01:37:56.720 --> 01:37:59.239
<v Speaker 5>what they owe you at this point is a transmission.

1952
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:02.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what this warranty is. Did you send

1953
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:03.640
<v Speaker 5>us over the warranty information?

1954
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:07.439
<v Speaker 22>I am, I am right now.

1955
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:10.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you don't have to do it right now, but

1956
01:38:10.439 --> 01:38:12.560
<v Speaker 5>we need to get it. I'm going to put Dmitri

1957
01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:15.800
<v Speaker 5>on this case because he's working. I watch you on

1958
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.159
<v Speaker 5>the both the RV in this one, the RV one.

1959
01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:21.079
<v Speaker 5>I see nothing happening. I mean, they bought it, they

1960
01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:25.520
<v Speaker 5>signed the paperwork. I just see nothing happening there. I mean,

1961
01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:28.199
<v Speaker 5>if they want to do something nice, they can't now

1962
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:29.640
<v Speaker 5>that they're in chapter eleven.

1963
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:30.359
<v Speaker 3>They can't.

1964
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:34.119
<v Speaker 5>They can't appease one person and not another person. But

1965
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.760
<v Speaker 5>with your case, joe An, we're going to find the

1966
01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:40.319
<v Speaker 5>trustees information and we're going to help you talk to

1967
01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:43.880
<v Speaker 5>the trustee about what's going on, because it could be

1968
01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:47.239
<v Speaker 5>fraud in your case, meaning you could be outside of

1969
01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:51.079
<v Speaker 5>the bankruptcy. You could actually be in line first because

1970
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:52.479
<v Speaker 5>you're missing a transmission.

1971
01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:53.479
<v Speaker 3>You brought the.

1972
01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:57.000
<v Speaker 5>Car there and they literally took your transmission. That's like

1973
01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:01.640
<v Speaker 5>not normal under any scenario. Well, we're gonna just kind

1974
01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:04.920
<v Speaker 5>of monitor this. I'm gonna grab all your information. You're

1975
01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:07.640
<v Speaker 5>gonna send over that warranty. The other thing is dmitri

1976
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:10.399
<v Speaker 5>if it truly is a warranty At this point, I

1977
01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:12.319
<v Speaker 5>don't know if Adam and the gang it off Roade

1978
01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:15.720
<v Speaker 5>Automotive sold her a piece of paper like an in

1979
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:19.600
<v Speaker 5>house warranty that just means nothing, or if it's possibly

1980
01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:22.520
<v Speaker 5>a warranty that Kevin could look at and if we

1981
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:26.319
<v Speaker 5>do get to transmission back, maybe get something going.

1982
01:39:26.359 --> 01:39:29.960
<v Speaker 6>But I having a police report though, for missing parts

1983
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.520
<v Speaker 6>of your car, that is crazy. I didn't even think

1984
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.239
<v Speaker 6>of that, did you. I would be tempted.

1985
01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I would be tempted too. Just to have that paperwork

1986
01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.880
<v Speaker 3>for the trustee. If and if the car is currently missing, Well,

1987
01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:41.560
<v Speaker 3>the car's.

1988
01:39:41.319 --> 01:39:42.199
<v Speaker 6>Not here is she does?

1989
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:42.439
<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

1990
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Where is the car now?

1991
01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Joe?

1992
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:46.159
<v Speaker 3>And that's problem number two? You know it would be

1993
01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>a good question for Christian Automotive.

1994
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:50.159
<v Speaker 23>I would on thirty eighth of Federal.

1995
01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:50.920
<v Speaker 22>That's the only thing.

1996
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:55.239
<v Speaker 6>On this car.

1997
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:59.399
<v Speaker 22>Oh, not even three thousand dollars. I've paid over five

1998
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:00.319
<v Speaker 22>thousand dollar ready?

1999
01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.079
<v Speaker 6>Oh man? What was the timeframe?

2000
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Though?

2001
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm still coming.

2002
01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:06.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm still confused. How long was it a.

2003
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:09.000
<v Speaker 22>Christian Brothers get this car?

2004
01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:09.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

2005
01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:12.840
<v Speaker 5>I guess, I guess I am going to jump down

2006
01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:14.560
<v Speaker 5>that rabbit hole because you know what.

2007
01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:17.279
<v Speaker 6>Because they have responsibility for that car. If it was

2008
01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:19.880
<v Speaker 6>towed away by their negligence, that's a whole other store.

2009
01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:21.520
<v Speaker 3>So help us with the toe.

2010
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:24.279
<v Speaker 5>You just say they towed it, right, But I also

2011
01:40:24.359 --> 01:40:26.800
<v Speaker 5>heard you say you paid one hundred and fifty dollars

2012
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:27.319
<v Speaker 5>to tow it.

2013
01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>No, she said it was a ticket. Go ahead, Joeanne,

2014
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:31.359
<v Speaker 3>what happened.

2015
01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:34.760
<v Speaker 22>To fixty dollars? Sixty dollars parking ticket for what?

2016
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>For?

2017
01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:36.880
<v Speaker 3>What?

2018
01:40:37.279 --> 01:40:41.159
<v Speaker 18>Or behind the Christian Brothers store.

2019
01:40:42.279 --> 01:40:45.479
<v Speaker 5>So Christian Brothers moved it from their parking lot to

2020
01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:47.159
<v Speaker 5>another parking lot.

2021
01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:50.000
<v Speaker 22>Just out on the street, just out on the street

2022
01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:50.920
<v Speaker 22>of their shop.

2023
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:51.399
<v Speaker 7>I guess.

2024
01:40:51.479 --> 01:40:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on, they pushed it out onto the street.

2025
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:54.439
<v Speaker 3>I get that.

2026
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:57.720
<v Speaker 5>How long was it there and how many times did

2027
01:40:57.720 --> 01:40:59.159
<v Speaker 5>they How long was it there?

2028
01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:04.159
<v Speaker 22>I want to say a month or so over a month, I.

2029
01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Think they can push it out on the street. Kevin, Well,

2030
01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:07.520
<v Speaker 3>what's the rules?

2031
01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Man?

2032
01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:10.439
<v Speaker 3>No, get it ten times.

2033
01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:12.800
<v Speaker 6>Either there's storage or towing or whatever. But you can't

2034
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:15.319
<v Speaker 6>dispose of it on a public street. You can stay

2035
01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:18.960
<v Speaker 6>there forever. They can tow it as abandoned and then

2036
01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:21.439
<v Speaker 6>the toe company will notify her. But if she has

2037
01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:24.000
<v Speaker 6>no notification it's parked on the street.

2038
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:24.600
<v Speaker 3>That could be hers.

2039
01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:26.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I don't know if there's a liability with

2040
01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:29.079
<v Speaker 6>the shop. They can't just dispose of a car because

2041
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:29.760
<v Speaker 6>it's in their way.

2042
01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's correct.

2043
01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:33.720
<v Speaker 6>After it like, you call a tow company and you

2044
01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:35.560
<v Speaker 6>do it properly. You don't push it out on a

2045
01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:39.199
<v Speaker 6>public street. Well, if I can care six months, Well,

2046
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:41.560
<v Speaker 6>you can't push your car out on colfax and make

2047
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:42.920
<v Speaker 6>it call wait wait wait.

2048
01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:44.439
<v Speaker 3>Wait, so wait?

2049
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.840
<v Speaker 5>So it literally if you come park at my house.

2050
01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:48.279
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

2051
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:50.520
<v Speaker 3>And there's no transmission in your car.

2052
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:53.319
<v Speaker 5>I can't push it out in the street, because that's

2053
01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:54.319
<v Speaker 5>exactly what I do.

2054
01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:55.640
<v Speaker 6>You need to call a towte.

2055
01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>If I do push it out in the street.

2056
01:41:57.720 --> 01:41:59.119
<v Speaker 6>You're liable for what happens to it.

2057
01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.720
<v Speaker 5>There's no way, Jack, there's no way. Who can we

2058
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:03.560
<v Speaker 5>ask about that?

2059
01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Who the hell? I don't even know what attorney. We

2060
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:08.319
<v Speaker 3>don't ask about what he's talking about.

2061
01:42:08.439 --> 01:42:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Not on this, I don't I trust on this, I don't. Okay,

2062
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:14.840
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you straight up, Kevin. You know how many

2063
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:16.439
<v Speaker 5>cars I pushed out onto the street.

2064
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:19.960
<v Speaker 6>You can't do it. I'm telling you it's not legal.

2065
01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:22.840
<v Speaker 6>You are liable for the vehicle unless you can account

2066
01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:23.119
<v Speaker 6>for it.

2067
01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh my, So.

2068
01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:27.000
<v Speaker 6>That's why you have a tot company, you have signed

2069
01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:28.680
<v Speaker 6>and you tow the car away as a bandit.

2070
01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:30.399
<v Speaker 5>First of all, I'm gonna throw this at you. This

2071
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:33.199
<v Speaker 5>might change your entire mind. You ready for your mind

2072
01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:36.399
<v Speaker 5>to explode? Watch his head, Watch the smoke start coming

2073
01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:40.239
<v Speaker 5>out of this years she had it, Toad there. She

2074
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:43.960
<v Speaker 5>probably never signed anything. They might have not even accepted

2075
01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:47.000
<v Speaker 5>the damn vehicle. See, and there's no transmission. They might

2076
01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:50.359
<v Speaker 5>have not even known the vehicle was showing up.

2077
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:54.079
<v Speaker 6>Well, they said had no transmission, so they saw something.

2078
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:56.600
<v Speaker 5>All right, we gotta take a break. Hold on, we're gonna,

2079
01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:58.960
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna. I don't even know who to who would

2080
01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:01.079
<v Speaker 5>we call on this? I mean, I don't even know.

2081
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

2082
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:11.319
<v Speaker 4>Excel Roofing dot com.

2083
01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:13.359
<v Speaker 15>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2084
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation comparison call

2085
01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

2086
01:43:23.720 --> 01:43:26.399
<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three O three seven to

2087
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:26.960
<v Speaker 4>seven to one.

2088
01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:27.319
<v Speaker 3>Help.

2089
01:43:27.479 --> 01:43:30.119
<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

2090
01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:32.640
<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

2091
01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:35.840
<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

2092
01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:37.359
<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two.

2093
01:43:38.159 --> 01:43:40.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, real quick, A couple things Kelly, you did

2094
01:43:41.079 --> 01:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>talk to violate?

2095
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:42.319
<v Speaker 13>Right?

2096
01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Give me a quick update? I did?

2097
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:49.199
<v Speaker 26>We have her information and yes, her POA.

2098
01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:52.600
<v Speaker 5>Aster two excellent. I'm going to call them. I'm going

2099
01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:55.159
<v Speaker 5>to call her make sure everything's cool. After the show.

2100
01:43:55.560 --> 01:44:00.479
<v Speaker 5>So everything did sound there was someone there literally with her. Yes, Okay,

2101
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:02.479
<v Speaker 5>we're going to check that out and then I'll figure

2102
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:03.640
<v Speaker 5>it out off air, which.

2103
01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:07.520
<v Speaker 26>Got everything, and she's very excited to speak with you

2104
01:44:07.600 --> 01:44:09.640
<v Speaker 26>because she really likes you.

2105
01:44:10.039 --> 01:44:15.800
<v Speaker 5>Okay, now listen, Dmitri is actually I started listening to

2106
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:19.520
<v Speaker 5>what Kevin had to say, and I don't know the law,

2107
01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:23.840
<v Speaker 5>but I do agree with this rationally, if you own

2108
01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:26.600
<v Speaker 5>a shop, you can't just push something off into the street.

2109
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:27.720
<v Speaker 3>If they don't pick it up.

2110
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:31.720
<v Speaker 5>You would call a tow truck and have the tow

2111
01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:34.960
<v Speaker 5>truck come grab it. But when there's no transmission and

2112
01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:38.279
<v Speaker 5>little value, you might not even find a tow truck

2113
01:44:38.319 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 5>company that wants to do that.

2114
01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:42.119
<v Speaker 3>But who knows. But we're going to actually call up

2115
01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:42.720
<v Speaker 3>over the break.

2116
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:46.640
<v Speaker 5>Dmitri's gonna call up to the place Christian Automotive for

2117
01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Christian Brothers and Fort Lupton. I assume that apparently pushed it,

2118
01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:53.279
<v Speaker 5>and we're going to try to get that part of

2119
01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:53.800
<v Speaker 5>the puzzle.

2120
01:44:54.079 --> 01:44:56.439
<v Speaker 3>So we'll do that. Patrick, you're next.

2121
01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.560
<v Speaker 5>He's got a question on small claims. Two lines open,

2122
01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:01.680
<v Speaker 5>three three Martino hour ago.

2123
01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:05.159
<v Speaker 4>Right here go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer

2124
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Excel roofing dot com.

2125
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:08.840
<v Speaker 15>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2126
01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:15.399
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

2127
01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:19.079
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage at dozens

2128
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.840
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 1>Rip News. Need that so you don't have run anxious

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<v Speaker 1>stas as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help come.

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<v Speaker 25>This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, Welcome my

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<v Speaker 25>friends to the only show off.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind We're here to style prout, answer questions, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's car Day, one of my favorite days. Kevin Coalkin

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<v Speaker 5>joins me, shared in auto Tech, Deputy Docks to my left,

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<v Speaker 5>Deputy Dmitri to.

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<v Speaker 3>My right, Dragon on the other side of the glass.

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<v Speaker 5>Making sure we're on air, and then Kelly or off air,

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<v Speaker 5>depending on if people drop the F bomb, and then

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<v Speaker 5>Kelly answering your calls producing the show. Three oh three Martinez,

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<v Speaker 5>the number we got two lines open three oh three

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<v Speaker 5>seven one three eight two five five. Dmitri's gonna go

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<v Speaker 5>call an automotive shop that we think might have pushed

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<v Speaker 5>a car into the street.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it got a ticket. But on top of that,

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<v Speaker 3>that poor woman bought the car from Off Road Automotive,

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<v Speaker 3>which is now in bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 5>So listen, if you're in Fort Lupton or if anybody there,

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom line is there in bankruptcy. So just understand

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<v Speaker 5>that Chapter eleven is a restructure, meaning they're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>get rid of their debt or spread it out and

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<v Speaker 5>pay it off over a long period of time. It's

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<v Speaker 5>almost like a Chapter thirteen, but it's for corporations. Most

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<v Speaker 5>of them convert to a Chapter seven. I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 5>if you look at it, I don't care big companies,

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<v Speaker 5>medium companies, small, And the problem is how much debt

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<v Speaker 5>do they have? And I know nothing about the case,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm purely just speaking in general, not necessarily about

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<v Speaker 5>off Road Automotive. But let's say it's a bicycle store

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<v Speaker 5>and they go into Chapter eleven because one of their vendors,

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<v Speaker 5>Shwin in this case, isn't getting paid and they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have the money to pay, so they go after them.

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<v Speaker 5>They get a judgment and someone files. That's one reason

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<v Speaker 5>companies file Chapter eleven. Another reason is they're forced into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they're not paying their property taxes on their building

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<v Speaker 5>in the city of Littleton, shows up and basically shuts

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<v Speaker 5>down the property and puts.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice sign on the door.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe the irs isn't getting paid and closes up the property.

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<v Speaker 5>There's lots of reasons people for Chapter eleven, but they

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<v Speaker 5>all come down to one thing. You owe money to somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>So what this particular company or anybody else like the

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<v Speaker 5>fabricated bike store is going to have to do they

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<v Speaker 5>enter into chapter eleven. And then why most people don't

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<v Speaker 5>survive is very simple. Why did you get air If

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<v Speaker 5>you simply don't make enough money to pay the current bills,

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<v Speaker 5>you wouldn't be in that position. Now you've got to

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<v Speaker 5>prove not only do you have enough money to continue

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<v Speaker 5>on normal day to day, but you also have to

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<v Speaker 5>pay off all this other debt. Some people attempt to

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<v Speaker 5>do it. It's very complicated, and usually it just simply

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't work. It's astronomical. The failures of chapter eleven. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>say ninety percent. Ninety percent if a bigger company doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>come in at least by the assets, but generally it

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<v Speaker 5>just doesn't go that way. Now, Patrick's got a question.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey Patrick, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 9>I just have a question about small claims court. Basically,

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<v Speaker 9>what happened was is I've met my house out VRBO

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<v Speaker 9>and Airbnb, and somebody tried to check in at twelve

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<v Speaker 9>at in the morning the day of check in, but

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<v Speaker 9>they're not supposed to be un till four o'clock. And

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<v Speaker 9>I was here because it's my house, and they decided

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<v Speaker 9>just to leave because I was here, which is odd.

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<v Speaker 3>So they tried to check in.

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<v Speaker 9>Good night, No, no, no, right mid next day, twelve

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<v Speaker 9>at midnight the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Before and yeah, I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 9>Go ahead, Well it's actually.

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<v Speaker 3>That it's one second end of that day. Whatever, I

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<v Speaker 3>get you.

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<v Speaker 7>There you go.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm lying on the floor just you know, watching TV.

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<v Speaker 3>That's odd.

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<v Speaker 12>I keep going, who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, they literally walked right in. Yeah that's great.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and I'm just sitting I just got back from

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<v Speaker 9>a trip. I was really tired, and I would have

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<v Speaker 9>had the house ready for them to check it in

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<v Speaker 9>for Yeah. Of course they decided that they decided to

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<v Speaker 9>go get another hotel or something, and then they did.

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<v Speaker 9>They did a charge back on me, and the RBO

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<v Speaker 9>took my money.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what I got to ask you this, why does

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<v Speaker 3>why did VRBO side with them? I don't understand there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they do things.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, they will immediately side with the renter immediately, and

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<v Speaker 9>so I had to prove that, and through ring and

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<v Speaker 9>through my door, which has a code, I can I

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<v Speaker 9>can prove that this guy tried to come in right

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<v Speaker 9>at twelve and then whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So then why then why didn't they side with you?

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<v Speaker 7>Well?

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<v Speaker 12>They did.

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<v Speaker 9>I ended up sending that information and they gave me

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<v Speaker 9>my money back. But he went and did it. He

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<v Speaker 9>filed a claim with his credit card company and then

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<v Speaker 9>they took it back from me. So and they're just saying,

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<v Speaker 9>we can't give your money back.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, help me out here.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a few things I just don't know about VRBO.

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<v Speaker 5>So Number one, I thought, I thought the customer pays

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<v Speaker 5>VRBO and then VRBO pays you.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that not correct?

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<v Speaker 12>That is correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So when the renter canceled his credit card, that

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<v Speaker 5>would affect VRBO, not you correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Well correct, but wait, hold on.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on, I think Patrick, Patrick, I think I understand.

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<v Speaker 5>But somewhere in the agreement with VRBO, if the client

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<v Speaker 5>is successful on a charge back, they can take it

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<v Speaker 5>back from whomever they gave it to.

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<v Speaker 9>Apparently, but they already they already sent me stuff that

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<v Speaker 9>said I proved that he came in and broke my

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<v Speaker 9>rules and they already said that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>But then because you want to, you want to what's

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<v Speaker 9>a credit card company? They went and took it back

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<v Speaker 9>and they can't hit.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's where I'm going though, this is you're talking about ultimately.

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<v Speaker 5>You got a question on taking them to court?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, yeah, can I can I take the RB?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a small Well, that's what we've got to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out in that agreement. I'll tell you Dimitri's good at

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<v Speaker 5>looking up stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Dimitri, you get the question. We need to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there something in their typical agreement and says if

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<v Speaker 5>we get hit with a successful chargeback, that we are

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<v Speaker 5>able to take it from you. Now I find that

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<v Speaker 5>crazy if that is the case, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>that's fair.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, it makes perfect sense, and I think it's and

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's perfectly fair. Because Patrick actually has two

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<v Speaker 10>separate issues. He won one, which is did the renter

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<v Speaker 10>break the rules of the rental. Yes, so he won that,

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<v Speaker 10>There's no question about that. The second and separate issue

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<v Speaker 10>is the renter's payment failed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, but yes, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I'm saying, I'm trying to think of a

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<v Speaker 5>better example on this.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh no, I total understand where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 10>So you're wondering, is there something in the in the

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<v Speaker 10>user agreement that Patrick signed with a rental company that

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<v Speaker 10>allows them to recover their charge.

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<v Speaker 3>That maybe this will help me.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're an auction house and I want to auction

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<v Speaker 5>my rolex and I give it to you, and you

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<v Speaker 5>auction it and you accept payment on it, and my

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01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:35.840
<v Speaker 5>rolex is gone, and you have whoever bought its money,

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<v Speaker 5>and then all of a sudden they cancel their credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Card, they have the watch, they have whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>and you take my money back.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it goes right back to what is the user agreements?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm asking what is?

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<v Speaker 5>And I find it crazy And you're probably one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>percent right, it's in there if they did it, But

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<v Speaker 5>I find it very I find.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of nuts that they can do that.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, except that your example is kind of imperfect as

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<v Speaker 10>it applies to this situation and your example, your rolex

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01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:09.840
<v Speaker 10>is gone and so is the pavement.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, this guy is gone somebody else? Well, did he

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<v Speaker 3>appeal it to the credit card company?

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<v Speaker 23>He?

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick?

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<v Speaker 5>That is the whole problem I have with what we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about is Patrick doesn't even have the ability because

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<v Speaker 5>he is not the vendor or the merchant. He's simply

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<v Speaker 5>not that person. But if that is in the agreement,

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<v Speaker 5>none of this matters.

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<v Speaker 10>No, And Patrick sounds like he's capable of taking a

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<v Speaker 10>look at that agreement. Patrick, download your user agreement that

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<v Speaker 10>you signed and see what it says.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if it's a PDF, you.

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<v Speaker 12>Can.

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<v Speaker 9>They gave it back to me because I proved that

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<v Speaker 9>he had broke the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>And Patrick, Patrick, these are two separate issues.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but it's not failed pay is a separate is

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<v Speaker 10>an issue that's separate from did the guy violate the

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<v Speaker 10>rules of the rental agreement?

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<v Speaker 5>I just I really would like to understand this because

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<v Speaker 5>now I'm thinking, like, you rent a mansion for a

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<v Speaker 5>week in California on Malibu through Airbnb or vrbo, and

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01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:24.880
<v Speaker 5>you know five thousand a night a week goes by,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a great time. You tell your credit card company. Oh,

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01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:31.359
<v Speaker 5>the swimming pool didn't work, and for whatever reason, your

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01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:34.960
<v Speaker 5>credit card company, uh, you know, sides with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they'll reverse the charge and then the owner ends up

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<v Speaker 5>not getting it. But VRBO is the one that actually

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<v Speaker 5>said this is a good person. We've checked them out,

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<v Speaker 5>they're part of our membership. We accept their payment. I

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<v Speaker 5>just find it same with like, I just want to

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<v Speaker 5>see the agreement. I really want to know the language

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<v Speaker 5>in the agreement.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick, shootes a copy of your user agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>It over.

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<v Speaker 3>I really would love to see it. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, I'll look it up. And the other part is

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<v Speaker 9>that it would have been ready exactly when he checks in.

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<v Speaker 9>And part of the user agreement is listen.

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<v Speaker 5>We get all that in Dmitries hundred percent right. We

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<v Speaker 5>are talking two different things.

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<v Speaker 10>I think we leapfrogged over the main issue Patrick's. Patrick's

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01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:23.079
<v Speaker 10>problem isn't really with VRBO. I think Patrick wants to

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01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:25.399
<v Speaker 10>go out. It wants to go and sue the renter.

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01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:27.000
<v Speaker 3>No, they want to see VRBO.

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<v Speaker 10>Good luck, there's an arbitration provision in there.

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01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:31.600
<v Speaker 3>You're they're not going to let you see either that

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01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:33.159
<v Speaker 3>or take them to arbitration.

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01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:35.880
<v Speaker 5>But it's more or less. I'm going to side with

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01:56:35.920 --> 01:56:37.079
<v Speaker 5>whatever's in the agreement.

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<v Speaker 10>I think if Patrick, Patrick, do you know if your

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01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:41.640
<v Speaker 10>renter is local? Is he around here or is he

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01:56:41.680 --> 01:56:42.239
<v Speaker 10>from out of state?

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01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, they don't give information.

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01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:47.279
<v Speaker 10>No, Oh yeah, you can't do you'll have troubles But you.

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01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:50.039
<v Speaker 5>Don't even have infor I mean you don't. You don't

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01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:51.640
<v Speaker 5>know his address or anything.

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01:56:51.359 --> 01:56:53.439
<v Speaker 7>Right, I can get it.

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01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:56.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, I didn't even know you could get that information.

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01:56:56.560 --> 01:56:58.520
<v Speaker 5>But that would be if he wasn't out of state,

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01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:02.239
<v Speaker 5>you could go to him, unless if once again, in

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01:57:02.319 --> 01:57:06.399
<v Speaker 5>that VRBO document you agree not to go after.

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01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could be that he gave up that right.

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01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:11.640
<v Speaker 9>But you could soon come down to that And I'll

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01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:12.720
<v Speaker 9>get that and send that to you.

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01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Send it over to help and troubleshooter and we'll look through.

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01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:19.239
<v Speaker 5>We got a tool where we concert you. But I'm

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01:57:19.319 --> 01:57:21.039
<v Speaker 5>dying to know on this. And there's a lot of

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01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:24.439
<v Speaker 5>people that you know, deal with VRBO and Airbnb in

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01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:25.199
<v Speaker 5>all these places.

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance. Three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, three three seven one three a two five five.

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<v Speaker 5>We got some lines open, first time in a long

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01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:19.840
<v Speaker 5>long time. Three oh three seven one three a two

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<v Speaker 5>five five. Got Uncle Kevin across from me, Kevin Automotive

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01:58:23.920 --> 01:58:27.000
<v Speaker 5>stuff man. We talked about pre purchase. What else is

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01:58:27.039 --> 01:58:29.760
<v Speaker 5>important when it comes to maintenance. I mean we always talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing's lifetime. I get that, but we have summer coming up,

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01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.279
<v Speaker 5>with one hundred degree days coming up, besides the obvious

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<v Speaker 5>of like.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you say besides the obvious, but it's not obvious

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01:58:39.279 --> 01:58:39.960
<v Speaker 6>to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's true. I mean you're absolutely right.

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01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:44.920
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely change your oil. Oil is not good for ten

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01:58:44.960 --> 01:58:48.159
<v Speaker 6>to twelve or fifteen thousand miles. No, just there is

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01:58:48.199 --> 01:58:50.600
<v Speaker 6>no lifetime or to your oil or any.

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01:58:50.399 --> 01:58:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Of that minimum follow the manual, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 6>I would do it a little bit sooner. I mean,

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01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:57.600
<v Speaker 6>for what you're saving and what it's costing, there's there's

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01:58:57.640 --> 01:58:59.720
<v Speaker 6>no upside plus their warranty.

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<v Speaker 5>Most vehicles, the warranty's gone at thirty six thousand miles,

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01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:06.840
<v Speaker 5>and if you neglect oil or go you know, twelve thousands.

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01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:08.520
<v Speaker 6>Your problems, you'll be at sixty and seventy thousands.

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01:59:08.520 --> 01:59:11.199
<v Speaker 5>Your problems aren't going to affect the manufacturer. They're going

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01:59:11.279 --> 01:59:12.399
<v Speaker 5>to affect your ass.

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01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:12.720
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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01:59:12.760 --> 01:59:15.960
<v Speaker 6>But you can't recover a sludged up engine. Now, once

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01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:18.600
<v Speaker 6>they sludged, they're done. And we were talking about I

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01:59:18.680 --> 01:59:19.439
<v Speaker 6>missed the call.

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01:59:19.680 --> 01:59:22.199
<v Speaker 5>My son called, but Tom was talking to somebody or

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01:59:22.239 --> 01:59:24.560
<v Speaker 5>you guys about someone.

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<v Speaker 3>With five head gaskets. What happened?

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<v Speaker 5>That sounds The only thing I could think about is

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01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:32.960
<v Speaker 5>every time we did a head gasket, my guys would

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01:59:32.960 --> 01:59:36.319
<v Speaker 5>pull the top end and send it to a machine shop.

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01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:39.840
<v Speaker 5>We'd never do a head gasket without a milling the head.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's annoying to sit with that car and pieces

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01:59:42.520 --> 01:59:43.840
<v Speaker 6>for two days waiting for the head.

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01:59:44.680 --> 01:59:46.399
<v Speaker 3>So that's why you push it outside.

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<v Speaker 6>Literally, that's why a lot of shops I'm not saying

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01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:51.199
<v Speaker 6>a lot. I don't know anybody that does. But obviously

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01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:52.520
<v Speaker 6>whoever did this one did.

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01:59:52.640 --> 01:59:54.800
<v Speaker 3>So that's why that's probably what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Time saving.

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<v Speaker 5>So another words, that head wasn't perfectly flat, so it

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01:59:58.600 --> 01:59:59.840
<v Speaker 5>kept blowing head gaskets.

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02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:03.800
<v Speaker 6>Possibly yeah, but yeah, you know, you know, but it

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02:00:03.800 --> 02:00:06.720
<v Speaker 6>bleuw headgas because it got too hot. So it's one

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02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:09.800
<v Speaker 6>thing for it to be overheating. Something to drive it overheating.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard some guy tell me years ago there was

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02:00:13.239 --> 02:00:16.720
<v Speaker 5>something called liquid glass and if you had a bad

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02:00:16.800 --> 02:00:20.239
<v Speaker 5>head gasket, you could pour liquid glass in and I'm

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02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:22.600
<v Speaker 5>sure it's not truly glass, I don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 5>and it would go down and basically almost like a foam.

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02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:30.239
<v Speaker 5>But something that's heat resistant or something would actually fill

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02:00:30.279 --> 02:00:34.319
<v Speaker 5>in the gaps and sometimes not all the time, might

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02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:36.800
<v Speaker 5>extend that head gasket or make it usable.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's all kinds of hocus pocus. I mean, you

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02:00:39.720 --> 02:00:41.760
<v Speaker 6>got autos on they have the wall of shade and

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02:00:41.760 --> 02:00:44.359
<v Speaker 6>you're calling. Yeah, they got every stop leak known to man.

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02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:47.159
<v Speaker 6>They got tire stop yeah, I mean they got a

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02:00:47.199 --> 02:00:48.399
<v Speaker 6>can of something for everything.

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<v Speaker 5>My favorite was this guy brought me one time, so

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02:00:52.439 --> 02:00:54.840
<v Speaker 5>he needed a cat couldn't pass e missions.

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02:00:55.399 --> 02:00:57.439
<v Speaker 3>And you know I quoted him back then it was

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02:00:57.479 --> 02:00:59.319
<v Speaker 3>a lot cheaper. I mean the cat was maybe five

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02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:00.960
<v Speaker 3>hundred bucks or whatever it was.

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02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:04.000
<v Speaker 5>And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, just hold on,

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02:01:04.199 --> 02:01:07.479
<v Speaker 5>hold on, And he shows back up into shop and

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02:01:07.520 --> 02:01:12.279
<v Speaker 5>he's got this bottle of ready.

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02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:15.640
<v Speaker 3>It's truly called this guaranteed to pass.

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02:01:16.880 --> 02:01:20.760
<v Speaker 5>It was nineteen bucks at AutoZone or Checkers or somewhere,

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02:01:21.159 --> 02:01:24.159
<v Speaker 5>and I read it and you put it in and

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02:01:24.479 --> 02:01:27.800
<v Speaker 5>you'll pass emissions after whatever a week or whatever it is.

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02:01:28.239 --> 02:01:31.520
<v Speaker 5>And if it doesn't pass, you can send back the

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02:01:31.560 --> 02:01:35.079
<v Speaker 5>empty bottle and all these other instructions that failed emissions

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02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:39.159
<v Speaker 5>tests and all this other stuff to the company and

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02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:40.800
<v Speaker 5>they'll give you your money back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea.

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<v Speaker 6>It takes sixteen weeks and.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five bucks time and ship exactly. Get your nineteen

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02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:48.439
<v Speaker 3>dollars exactly.

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02:01:48.479 --> 02:01:49.199
<v Speaker 6>They sell one now.

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02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:51.840
<v Speaker 3>It's called CATA Clean CATA Clean, so.

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02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:53.880
<v Speaker 6>You run it through your gas tank and it's supposed

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02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.840
<v Speaker 6>to clean contaminants off the catalytic convert or make it

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02:01:56.880 --> 02:01:57.920
<v Speaker 6>work more efficiently.

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02:01:58.399 --> 02:02:01.279
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, all kinds of stuff. There's some additives though.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm always great. I mean you know that liquid

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02:02:05.279 --> 02:02:08.840
<v Speaker 6>glass that that does work in certain conditions. Yes, it

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02:02:08.920 --> 02:02:11.359
<v Speaker 6>might get you by, it's not permanenc I was gonna say,

2471
02:02:11.359 --> 02:02:12.039
<v Speaker 6>it's a band aid.

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<v Speaker 5>There's another reason if someone let's go back to a

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02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:17.439
<v Speaker 5>pre purchase, if someone did have an issue like that

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02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:19.880
<v Speaker 5>and put liquid glass in. I mean, really, there's nothing

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02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:21.880
<v Speaker 5>you could change. You couldn't find it now, Yeah, there's

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02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:22.760
<v Speaker 5>nothing you can do.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing I keep wanting to bring up. I was

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02:02:25.439 --> 02:02:28.840
<v Speaker 6>shopping for a car for my granddaughter. And if you

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02:02:28.840 --> 02:02:31.279
<v Speaker 6>don't pull a car fax on a car before you

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02:02:31.319 --> 02:02:33.479
<v Speaker 6>do a pre purchase, just don't even bother.

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02:02:33.600 --> 02:02:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, don't waste the money.

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02:02:34.560 --> 02:02:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Don't waste the money. The car fax tells you so much,

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02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:39.800
<v Speaker 6>and you could bring that with you to the to

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02:02:39.880 --> 02:02:42.600
<v Speaker 6>the pre purchase. We found three of the first five

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02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:44.680
<v Speaker 6>cars I looked at, the odometers were changed.

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02:02:45.039 --> 02:02:47.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh my goodness. And that's right on the car, right

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02:02:47.119 --> 02:02:49.319
<v Speaker 5>on the car. Fact, So you don't even waste your time.

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02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:51.960
<v Speaker 6>Don't waste your time getting a pre purchase. If you're

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02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:53.439
<v Speaker 6>not gonna do the car.

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02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:54.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't even know what you're dealing with.

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02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:55.720
<v Speaker 6>You have no idea.

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02:02:55.840 --> 02:02:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Think about that.

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02:02:56.600 --> 02:02:59.359
<v Speaker 5>Once you odometers change, you truly have no idea if

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02:02:59.399 --> 02:03:00.680
<v Speaker 5>the oil change we're done on.

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02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:03.720
<v Speaker 3>You know nothing about about the car. No, and keV,

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02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I assume you do a break check.

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02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:08.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, from the big things check.

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02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So how often does someone I know, we send you

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02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.039
<v Speaker 5>a ton of prepurchase because you guys do them right

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02:03:15.079 --> 02:03:17.319
<v Speaker 5>and you do them cheap. In fact, anybody out there

2502
02:03:17.359 --> 02:03:21.239
<v Speaker 5>listening straight up not And if you really want the car,

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02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:23.279
<v Speaker 5>Kevin will tell you everything that's wrong with it in

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02:03:23.680 --> 02:03:26.359
<v Speaker 5>in a written form so you can go negotiate it

2505
02:03:26.560 --> 02:03:30.159
<v Speaker 5>if you really want it. But anyhow, where I was going,

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<v Speaker 5>out of all the people that come to you, let's say,

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02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:36.520
<v Speaker 5>out of one hundred pre checks, like, how many are

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02:03:36.600 --> 02:03:37.520
<v Speaker 5>just total junk?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 6>Like that?

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02:03:39.199 --> 02:03:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Literally, like you're saying, don't even negotiate, I wouldn't buy it.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, probably twenty to thirty percent of them. It's pretty

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02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:46.479
<v Speaker 6>high percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty high. There's a lot of junk out.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's stuff that every car needs. I mean,

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02:03:50.359 --> 02:03:52.640
<v Speaker 6>that's that's easy. You know, we can always find something

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02:03:52.680 --> 02:03:55.199
<v Speaker 6>wrong with any car. But some of them, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>it just it makes no sense to even try.

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02:03:57.439 --> 02:04:00.439
<v Speaker 3>How about little things like like how how much does

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02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:00.880
<v Speaker 3>it cost?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll just take something. What's a very popular car like

2522
02:04:03.920 --> 02:04:08.279
<v Speaker 5>a twenty fifteen Honda Cord and let's say the driver's

2523
02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:11.920
<v Speaker 5>seat motor is out, so you can't adjust the seat.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how much is something like that? Is that

2525
02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:15.720
<v Speaker 3>an expensive repair?

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<v Speaker 6>There's something you can't buy a motor? You got to

2527
02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:19.960
<v Speaker 6>buy a seat assembly. Oh my god, that could be

2528
02:04:20.039 --> 02:04:20.600
<v Speaker 6>two grand.

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<v Speaker 5>So they might tell you that's probably only one hundred

2530
02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:25.520
<v Speaker 5>bucks where I mean you might have to drop a

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02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:27.000
<v Speaker 5>thousand plus exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So yeah, don't don't take anything for granted. And

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02:04:30.800 --> 02:04:33.000
<v Speaker 6>the whole it's already been checked. You don't need to

2535
02:04:33.039 --> 02:04:33.680
<v Speaker 6>worry about it.

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02:04:33.760 --> 02:04:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Da da da da, Or don't worry about that check engine.

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02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Like that's your cast cap.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah no, that's that spot on the ground was from

2539
02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:42.520
<v Speaker 6>the car before you. That's not coming from your car.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, don't mess around. Skip real quick. What's your question?

2541
02:04:45.479 --> 02:04:47.119
<v Speaker 5>Because I got to take a fast break.

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<v Speaker 24>Okay, I can wait till our TV bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do that. I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that. Three oh three seven, one three hey

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<v Speaker 5>two five five.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody hold tight. It's Saturday and you're on the Troubleshooter Network.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the AIRTV.

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<v Speaker 4>Comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at

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<v Speaker 4>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

2558
02:05:43.239 --> 02:05:46.039
<v Speaker 5>five five, I'm dying to know what your issue is, Skip,

2559
02:05:46.079 --> 02:05:47.720
<v Speaker 5>it says with AIRTV.

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02:05:50.159 --> 02:05:53.399
<v Speaker 24>Yeah, such correct, Mark, Happy Friday to you by the way.

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02:05:53.479 --> 02:05:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Hey, thanks you sire.

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02:05:55.359 --> 02:05:57.600
<v Speaker 24>Oh shut up? From so I have I have over

2563
02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:02.399
<v Speaker 24>the air free streaming. It's called air TV. Yeah and

2564
02:06:02.840 --> 02:06:03.479
<v Speaker 24>wait a minute.

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02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:06.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Skip, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just got

2566
02:06:06.199 --> 02:06:09.520
<v Speaker 5>to understand this. So it's over internet though, right, it's

2567
02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:10.439
<v Speaker 5>not over the air.

2568
02:06:12.359 --> 02:06:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's see here.

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02:06:13.319 --> 02:06:15.880
<v Speaker 24>No, it's over the air. It's over your TV set.

2570
02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:20.119
<v Speaker 24>It's done uh to either an external antenna or through

2571
02:06:20.119 --> 02:06:20.920
<v Speaker 24>an indoor intent.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it's an antenna. Okay, I get it. Go ahead.

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02:06:24.800 --> 02:06:27.119
<v Speaker 24>Yeah. So it's kind of like it's kind of like

2574
02:06:27.159 --> 02:06:31.079
<v Speaker 24>an Amazon and fire Sticks, only maybe a little more

2575
02:06:31.399 --> 02:06:32.279
<v Speaker 24>foo foo maybe.

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02:06:34.000 --> 02:06:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:36.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm still a little confused. But what's the problem.

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02:06:37.479 --> 02:06:41.119
<v Speaker 24>Okay, Well, anyways, I'm I touched something that I wasn't

2579
02:06:41.159 --> 02:06:44.600
<v Speaker 24>supposed to and now I can't get my local channels.

2580
02:06:45.199 --> 02:06:48.359
<v Speaker 24>I can get everything, I get everything around it. Yeah,

2581
02:06:48.359 --> 02:06:53.119
<v Speaker 24>I can't get the local channels. Okay, so that it's unauthorized.

2582
02:06:53.960 --> 02:06:56.560
<v Speaker 5>Well I okay, once again, I'm a little confused. So

2583
02:06:57.199 --> 02:06:59.000
<v Speaker 5>do you have internet in your house?

2584
02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:02.439
<v Speaker 24>Yes, that's ask Does a TV.

2585
02:07:02.239 --> 02:07:05.439
<v Speaker 3>That we're talking about, one of the TVs we're talking about,

2586
02:07:05.840 --> 02:07:10.199
<v Speaker 3>does it connect to the internet.

2587
02:07:10.680 --> 02:07:11.880
<v Speaker 24>It connects to the Wi Fi.

2588
02:07:12.439 --> 02:07:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's fine. So it connects to the Wi Fi.

2589
02:07:15.399 --> 02:07:19.720
<v Speaker 5>So you're not you don't have a antenna like a

2590
02:07:19.800 --> 02:07:23.720
<v Speaker 5>old school antenna or a digital antenna plugged into it.

2591
02:07:23.800 --> 02:07:29.239
<v Speaker 5>You're actually accessing through the television hub some service that's

2592
02:07:29.279 --> 02:07:30.279
<v Speaker 5>called AIRTV.

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02:07:32.199 --> 02:07:36.239
<v Speaker 24>Well actually, but the way it works is a the

2594
02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:41.760
<v Speaker 24>if show antenna comes down and it has its own modem,

2595
02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:44.960
<v Speaker 24>but the motem is hooked up to the router for

2596
02:07:45.000 --> 02:07:46.439
<v Speaker 24>the Internet.

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02:07:47.520 --> 02:07:52.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually looking up AIRTV, AIRTV, string, local TV and HD.

2598
02:07:52.199 --> 02:07:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Hold on, just let me let me actually, I'm gonna

2599
02:07:55.039 --> 02:07:57.640
<v Speaker 3>put you on hold for a second. Would someone please

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02:07:57.680 --> 02:08:01.039
<v Speaker 3>go to AIRTV, dot net in absor or what product

2601
02:08:01.079 --> 02:08:04.119
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about while I move on to skip hold on,

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02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I got to understand what hell we're talking about? Fernando,

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02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:14.279
<v Speaker 3>what's up with you? Fernando? Yeah, what's up?

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02:08:14.319 --> 02:08:14.479
<v Speaker 12>Sir?

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02:08:15.920 --> 02:08:18.680
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I have a problem with the warranty at the

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02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:19.800
<v Speaker 11>Dodge dealership.

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02:08:21.399 --> 02:08:22.800
<v Speaker 3>What kind of vehicle is down?

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02:08:23.680 --> 02:08:28.520
<v Speaker 11>It's an Infinity? What year thirty twenty eighteen.

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02:08:28.520 --> 02:08:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Twenty eighteen, So I assume we're talking about an after

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02:08:31.640 --> 02:08:33.439
<v Speaker 3>market warranty.

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02:08:34.079 --> 02:08:38.560
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, but they sort it to me as with the

2612
02:08:38.760 --> 02:08:41.359
<v Speaker 11>warranty and Eric's nows and even the dealer's warranty.

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02:08:41.600 --> 02:08:43.479
<v Speaker 3>When did you buy this twenty eighteen?

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02:08:43.640 --> 02:08:48.560
<v Speaker 11>Q X, I bought it. It's been a year now, So.

2615
02:08:48.560 --> 02:08:50.359
<v Speaker 3>You bought it a year ago, and you bought it

2616
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:53.840
<v Speaker 3>with an extended warranty. And who did you buy it from?

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02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:55.119
<v Speaker 11>From? Dodge?

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02:08:55.960 --> 02:08:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you bought it from Dodge or whatever Dodge dealership.

2619
02:09:00.079 --> 02:09:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Then a year later you have a problem with it,

2620
02:09:02.600 --> 02:09:05.479
<v Speaker 3>so you brought it back to him, same company, right,

2621
02:09:05.720 --> 02:09:09.439
<v Speaker 3>same same dealer. Yes, and then that dealer said, this

2622
02:09:09.520 --> 02:09:13.279
<v Speaker 3>is the problem, and what was the problem.

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02:09:13.760 --> 02:09:16.840
<v Speaker 11>The problem was the car started leaking at oil because

2624
02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:19.840
<v Speaker 11>it came from the oil housing. Okay, engine, it's the

2625
02:09:19.920 --> 02:09:20.520
<v Speaker 11>oil housing.

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02:09:20.680 --> 02:09:23.159
<v Speaker 5>So you saw it, basically, I'm trying to think the

2627
02:09:23.159 --> 02:09:25.760
<v Speaker 5>beginning of this. So you saw oil on your driveway

2628
02:09:25.840 --> 02:09:28.319
<v Speaker 5>or saw it somewhere, and then you you drove it

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02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:28.720
<v Speaker 5>to the.

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02:09:28.720 --> 02:09:32.319
<v Speaker 11>Dealership, actually had them, told it to him.

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02:09:32.439 --> 02:09:36.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh you total did it break down? Did it break

2632
02:09:36.840 --> 02:09:38.079
<v Speaker 5>down on you broke down?

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02:09:38.800 --> 02:09:39.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

2634
02:09:39.159 --> 02:09:42.079
<v Speaker 11>All the coolint and oil came out because I guess told.

2635
02:09:42.039 --> 02:09:44.439
<v Speaker 5>It sounds like the bottom end went out. But regardless,

2636
02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:47.039
<v Speaker 5>hold on, then you got it to the dealership. What

2637
02:09:47.079 --> 02:09:49.399
<v Speaker 5>did the dealership say? The problem was.

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02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:52.800
<v Speaker 11>They didn't know what the problem was, so they had

2639
02:09:52.840 --> 02:09:55.039
<v Speaker 11>to tear it down to get to it.

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02:09:55.239 --> 02:09:58.520
<v Speaker 5>I understand. So you authorized I see where we're going.

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02:09:58.560 --> 02:10:00.520
<v Speaker 5>You authorized him the tear wear it down?

2642
02:10:00.640 --> 02:10:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:05.399
<v Speaker 11>No, I didn't authorize them yet because they told me

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02:10:05.439 --> 02:10:09.159
<v Speaker 11>that the warranty people. We have to make a claim

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02:10:09.199 --> 02:10:10.640
<v Speaker 11>to the warranty people so they.

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02:10:10.560 --> 02:10:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Can Kevin explain.

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02:10:12.479 --> 02:10:14.640
<v Speaker 5>Kevin, hold on, I want you to listen to this, Fernando,

2648
02:10:14.680 --> 02:10:16.560
<v Speaker 5>because I don't know if it went down this way,

2649
02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:19.520
<v Speaker 5>but this is the way it generally would go down.

2650
02:10:19.560 --> 02:10:21.039
<v Speaker 3>With a warranty like yours.

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02:10:21.199 --> 02:10:24.680
<v Speaker 6>They want to know the exact point of failure. So

2652
02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:27.720
<v Speaker 6>we have to disassemble whatever component, in this case the

2653
02:10:27.800 --> 02:10:31.239
<v Speaker 6>engine to the point of failure, let them know what happened,

2654
02:10:31.239 --> 02:10:34.479
<v Speaker 6>why it happened, and everything that goes with it. And

2655
02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:37.359
<v Speaker 6>we do charge for that in advance, because the warranty

2656
02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:42.399
<v Speaker 6>will not authorize the teardown. Customer authorizes the teardown in

2657
02:10:42.439 --> 02:10:45.159
<v Speaker 6>the event that it's not covered, Customers responsible. In the

2658
02:10:45.159 --> 02:10:48.079
<v Speaker 6>event that it is covered, the warranty company pays for it.

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02:10:48.159 --> 02:10:50.319
<v Speaker 5>Is that kind of what's going on with you, Fernando.

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02:10:50.439 --> 02:10:54.119
<v Speaker 5>They tore it down and the warranty companies not covering it.

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02:10:55.399 --> 02:10:58.279
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, exactly so. But the point was is I told

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02:10:58.319 --> 02:11:01.960
<v Speaker 11>them about that, and God said, yes, go ahead and

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02:11:02.039 --> 02:11:04.359
<v Speaker 11>tear it down and have them fix it and will

2664
02:11:04.399 --> 02:11:07.159
<v Speaker 11>pay for it. They said, well, we'll actually pay for it.

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02:11:08.239 --> 02:11:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I just missed it then, So if Fernando, are you

2666
02:11:10.680 --> 02:11:12.000
<v Speaker 3>saying it is covered.

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02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:16.039
<v Speaker 11>Well, the dealer There's dealership said that they would help

2668
02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:18.399
<v Speaker 11>care pay for the teardown for me.

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02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:21.920
<v Speaker 5>So okay, But now Okay, so where are we at now?

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02:11:21.920 --> 02:11:24.359
<v Speaker 5>Did they deny the claim?

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02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:25.319
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, they denied it.

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02:11:25.359 --> 02:11:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Now what did they deny it on abuse?

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02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:31.359
<v Speaker 16>No?

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02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:35.239
<v Speaker 5>I understand they're denying everything, the tear down and everything.

2675
02:11:35.279 --> 02:11:38.760
<v Speaker 5>I get that, But why did they deny the actual problem?

2676
02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:41.680
<v Speaker 3>What did they cite abuse? Did they cite what?

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02:11:43.239 --> 02:11:43.319
<v Speaker 20>No?

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02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:45.640
<v Speaker 11>The reason why is because of the warranty that they

2679
02:11:45.640 --> 02:11:51.119
<v Speaker 11>gave me was a was a premium package, and I

2680
02:11:51.159 --> 02:11:54.199
<v Speaker 11>guess they said that they didn't cover the gaskets on

2681
02:11:54.279 --> 02:11:55.479
<v Speaker 11>that coverage.

2682
02:11:55.760 --> 02:11:59.439
<v Speaker 5>Now the gaskets. If he broke down and there's coolant

2683
02:11:59.439 --> 02:12:01.680
<v Speaker 5>and oil every head gasket, what do you think.

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02:12:01.640 --> 02:12:05.079
<v Speaker 6>Well, that could be a well cooler well housing cooler gasket. Yeah,

2685
02:12:05.199 --> 02:12:06.079
<v Speaker 6>very very common.

2686
02:12:06.239 --> 02:12:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I got it.

2687
02:12:06.920 --> 02:12:09.600
<v Speaker 6>But it takes a lot of labor to do it exactly. Yeah,

2688
02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:11.760
<v Speaker 6>it's like six seven hour job to.

2689
02:12:11.600 --> 02:12:13.720
<v Speaker 3>How much is how much is it out of pocket

2690
02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:14.520
<v Speaker 3>to have it fixed?

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02:12:14.560 --> 02:12:17.600
<v Speaker 11>Bro Did they want thirty five hundred?

2692
02:12:18.079 --> 02:12:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Wherre is that in the scheme of things.

2693
02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:23.359
<v Speaker 6>It's deep in that engine. It's they're not an easy

2694
02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:23.800
<v Speaker 6>one to work.

2695
02:12:23.840 --> 02:12:26.319
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm in price wise, it's it's a little on

2696
02:12:26.359 --> 02:12:28.399
<v Speaker 5>the high side, but not outrageous.

2697
02:12:28.439 --> 02:12:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Fernando I mean, you are where you are, So you're

2698
02:12:31.920 --> 02:12:36.840
<v Speaker 3>calling because you're upset with the warranty company, or you're

2699
02:12:36.920 --> 02:12:40.239
<v Speaker 3>upset that the dealership is charging you for the teardown.

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02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:44.560
<v Speaker 11>I'm upset at the dealership because they promised me that

2701
02:12:44.600 --> 02:12:46.159
<v Speaker 11>they were going to pay at least half of it

2702
02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:46.960
<v Speaker 11>and that can cover.

2703
02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:49.039
<v Speaker 3>The rest, and now they're saying they won't. How much

2704
02:12:49.039 --> 02:12:50.039
<v Speaker 3>are they asking for it?

2705
02:12:51.800 --> 02:12:53.359
<v Speaker 11>The teardown was fourteen.

2706
02:12:53.880 --> 02:12:55.880
<v Speaker 3>And you want them to pay seven of it?

2707
02:12:57.520 --> 02:13:00.840
<v Speaker 11>Well, just the fourteen the teardown, and I'll pay the rest.

2708
02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:03.439
<v Speaker 3>What's the rest?

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02:13:04.159 --> 02:13:06.920
<v Speaker 11>The rest is a well, it's at a thirty five hundred.

2710
02:13:06.920 --> 02:13:09.159
<v Speaker 5>Well you're you're assuming now wait a minute, Wait a minute,

2711
02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:12.359
<v Speaker 5>I think I understand what you're saying. You're you're assuming, though,

2712
02:13:12.960 --> 02:13:16.680
<v Speaker 5>that the teardown isn't also part of the labored to

2713
02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:20.199
<v Speaker 5>do that job. So, in other words, you're saying it

2714
02:13:20.239 --> 02:13:24.359
<v Speaker 5>should have been on your ticket. It says fourteen hundred dollars,

2715
02:13:24.479 --> 02:13:27.119
<v Speaker 5>and then it also says thirty five hundred dollars.

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02:13:28.479 --> 02:13:32.399
<v Speaker 11>No, it's with the teardown fourteen plus whatever.

2717
02:13:32.920 --> 02:13:37.800
<v Speaker 3>What the it's fourteen plus twenty one? Right? Yes, yeah, okay,

2718
02:13:38.159 --> 02:13:40.439
<v Speaker 3>And that's is at a fair price for that kid.

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02:13:40.479 --> 02:13:42.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's not bad. It's a little on the high side,

2720
02:13:42.199 --> 02:13:44.119
<v Speaker 6>like I said, But you're right, the teardown is the

2721
02:13:44.479 --> 02:13:46.520
<v Speaker 6>initial getting to the problem.

2722
02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's part of It's basically the r of the

2723
02:13:49.079 --> 02:13:49.760
<v Speaker 3>R R R.

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02:13:50.079 --> 02:13:50.479
<v Speaker 6>There you go.

2725
02:13:51.840 --> 02:13:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I just don't know if.

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02:13:55.520 --> 02:13:57.439
<v Speaker 11>My problem is is they promised me and they said

2727
02:13:57.439 --> 02:13:58.520
<v Speaker 11>that they're going to pay for the tear.

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02:13:58.560 --> 02:14:00.680
<v Speaker 5>How do you I guess, Okay, here's what I'm asking.

2729
02:14:00.760 --> 02:14:03.119
<v Speaker 5>How do you know they're not paying for half? Did

2730
02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:05.359
<v Speaker 5>you ask them?

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02:14:05.439 --> 02:14:05.640
<v Speaker 24>Yeah?

2732
02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:06.399
<v Speaker 11>I just went there.

2733
02:14:06.479 --> 02:14:08.640
<v Speaker 5>Now, And what are they saying when you say, hey,

2734
02:14:08.640 --> 02:14:10.399
<v Speaker 5>you guys promise you were going to pay for half?

2735
02:14:10.560 --> 02:14:12.079
<v Speaker 5>What is their response to that?

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02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:13.560
<v Speaker 12>Now?

2737
02:14:13.560 --> 02:14:16.920
<v Speaker 11>Their response is, oh, well, they were at first talking

2738
02:14:16.960 --> 02:14:20.079
<v Speaker 11>to the unquote the quote the manager of the deal

2739
02:14:20.279 --> 02:14:23.399
<v Speaker 11>of the warranty place, and they said, oh, yeah, we'll

2740
02:14:23.560 --> 02:14:27.800
<v Speaker 11>cover the coverage of the caardown, but let us know

2741
02:14:27.840 --> 02:14:30.640
<v Speaker 11>when the car is fixed and then we'll go from there.

2742
02:14:31.000 --> 02:14:32.760
<v Speaker 11>So now the car's fixed. I went to them and

2743
02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:35.159
<v Speaker 11>I said, Okay, the car's fixed, so you guys are

2744
02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:37.840
<v Speaker 11>going to pay your part, so I can pay my part,

2745
02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:40.039
<v Speaker 11>so get my car out, and they just tell me, oh, no,

2746
02:14:40.520 --> 02:14:41.960
<v Speaker 11>we are not honoring of that.

2747
02:14:42.239 --> 02:14:46.600
<v Speaker 5>So what I'm saying, do they acknowledge, Fernando, Do they

2748
02:14:46.640 --> 02:14:50.239
<v Speaker 5>acknowledge to you right now that they said they would

2749
02:14:50.279 --> 02:14:52.279
<v Speaker 5>pay for half and they have changed their mind?

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02:14:53.560 --> 02:14:54.399
<v Speaker 11>Yes, exactly.

2751
02:14:54.479 --> 02:14:59.640
<v Speaker 3>They acknowledge that. Yes, And who is that who acknowledges that?

2752
02:15:01.079 --> 02:15:04.560
<v Speaker 11>It was the manager of Dodge? His name was Ali.

2753
02:15:04.760 --> 02:15:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Who wants this one?

2754
02:15:06.600 --> 02:15:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Now none of that's in writing. I'm assuming no,

2755
02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:12.039
<v Speaker 5>But that's why I asked. He's saying they acknowledge it.

2756
02:15:12.079 --> 02:15:15.880
<v Speaker 5>So when Doc calls over there with you, they should say, yeah,

2757
02:15:15.920 --> 02:15:18.159
<v Speaker 5>we told them that, but and then they're going to

2758
02:15:18.239 --> 02:15:19.000
<v Speaker 5>have an excuse.

2759
02:15:19.119 --> 02:15:23.279
<v Speaker 11>Right, Yeah, they've been they've been ignoring my calls and everything.

2760
02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:24.800
<v Speaker 11>I had to come down personally.

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02:15:25.439 --> 02:15:27.520
<v Speaker 5>All right, hold on, hold on, hold on Doc, he's

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<v Speaker 5>on too, Kelly, get all his information and figure out

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<v Speaker 5>what dealership. It's not called Dodge dealership. And then Steve Moss,

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<v Speaker 5>we got Rick. We got a lot of stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 5>And then air TV. Did you figure that out?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it? Real quick? Yeah? Well it's Internet.

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<v Speaker 10>No, it's it's an over the air television service. So

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<v Speaker 10>you buy a device and then you buy an antenna, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>and then you can watch certain local channels I assume

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<v Speaker 10>for free. Yeah, Network TV shows live sports for free.

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<v Speaker 5>It's over the air, though, it's over the air, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably also on the internet, and they're well, no, it's.

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<v Speaker 10>An antenna and okay. Hold On also offer a monthly

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<v Speaker 10>service subscription.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, everybody holds tight.
