Speaker 1: Good morning everybody. Corey used bloody history. And we're continuing
Speaker 1: on with this David Ferry File three. And we've come
Speaker 1: with a document which I'm gonna say is probably of
Speaker 1: utmost importance. It is a document we don't have. We
Speaker 1: have just a little sample of it. This is Commissioned
Speaker 1: Document seventy five Report of Special Agent Warren Debrize, dated twelve,
Speaker 1: two sixty three at Dallas, Texas. A couple things of
Speaker 1: note here. Warren de Breeze is based out of Dallas.
Speaker 1: His name constantly comes up in the FBI level conspiracy stuff.
Speaker 1: Why he'd have access to this file, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The important thing about these documents here, with the Commission
Speaker 1: documents is that they're all basically classified. Still we don't
Speaker 1: have them. There's about two hundred Commission documents, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. They're specifically called Commission documents in quotes, and
Speaker 1: that's where all the goods are, that's where all the
Speaker 1: really good stuff is, but we don't have any of it. That's,
Speaker 1: you know something, the Commission documents. Remember how once I
Speaker 1: said that there's definitely another Warren report out there that
Speaker 1: says all the real stuff behind the scenes. Because they
Speaker 1: had communications that they had to talk about before they
Speaker 1: formulated this the fake ass report. So all the real
Speaker 1: stuff is still there, So there has to be another
Speaker 1: second report, and all these commission documents are probably a
Speaker 1: part of it. There are tens of thousands of pages,
Speaker 1: if not more. So this one here says the above
Speaker 1: document in two volumes and seven hundred thirty seven pages long. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Commission Document seventy five is seven hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: seven pages long. All right, there's two hundred, at least
Speaker 1: two hundred commission documents. I mean, this has got to
Speaker 1: be tens of thousands of pages, if not one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand pages. I mean, there's just so much in these
Speaker 1: commission documents and we don't know any of it. So
Speaker 1: as I go through the names that are listed here,
Speaker 1: please take very careful note because a lot of these
Speaker 1: names don't appear anywhere else in the Kennedy assassination investigation.
Speaker 1: So I have a feeling a lot of these names
Speaker 1: are going to have relevance to stuff that we don't
Speaker 1: even know yet. So all right, let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and read this analysis of classified pages. The above document
Speaker 1: in two volumes and seven hundred and thirty seven pages long,
Speaker 1: is one of the most important FBI reports in the archives.
Speaker 1: It also contains more material about New Orleans than any
Speaker 1: other document, including the forty classified pages on David Ferry.
Speaker 1: It is also the document which Wegman was looking at
Speaker 1: on May tenth. Like all the bulky documents pertaining to
Speaker 1: the assassination, it is in the List B category, which
Speaker 1: means that it is unclassified, but numerous pages are withdrawn
Speaker 1: at the request of the FBI. Portions of the document
Speaker 1: have been published as CES eighteen ninety six to nineteen
Speaker 1: forty two, but the majority of it is unpublished CE
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety six to nineteen forty two. If one of
Speaker 1: the guys in the chat want to pull that up
Speaker 1: and post it, all right, So pages classified on the left,
Speaker 1: names mentioned on the right. So all the pages that
Speaker 1: I'm going to read are classified, and all the names
Speaker 1: are the names that are associated with it. Page one
Speaker 1: twelve Chandler, T. Josie jos Y one sixty four to
Speaker 1: one sixty six, J. W. Hammett, M. Herdhoff, John Morrett,
Speaker 1: dutz Morett, Jen Morrett, and Alan Waller W. A. L. E. R.
Speaker 1: The Morrett stuff is all family related Naval Intelligence Page
Speaker 1: one eighty Yvonne Cooper ed Turnley. Page one eighty one
Speaker 1: was Xeroxton sent in brackets, Archie Fucelle, John David Kilgore.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry this is moving off the next one page
Speaker 1: one eighty two and A one eighty three, John David Kilgore,
Speaker 1: twenty eight thirty Chapman Street, Shreveport, Louisiana, Major Orville Richards,
Speaker 1: William Thornton, pages two O seven to two ten J. W. Hammett,
Speaker 1: Jack Barringer, Jack Irwin, Mike Gacone. That name's familiar. H
Speaker 1: Warner Klopfer. The Cloapfer name was associated with Oswald. I
Speaker 1: believe over in that was a teacher's name. O in
Speaker 1: A where was it? Coventry, Louisiana, Covington, Louisiana. All right,
Speaker 1: missus l W. Mathin, Augustus michel A John Morrett again,
Speaker 1: Florence Morat, I don't know who that is. And Ruth Morat. Ooh,
Speaker 1: maybe there's two other names. Well it's spelled m m
Speaker 1: U r at. But they do stuff like that all
Speaker 1: the time to switch names. So Florence Morat and Ruth Morat,
Speaker 1: those names need to be looked into if they're connected
Speaker 1: to John two twelve to two twenty one Ferry analysis
Speaker 1: of these pages already sent. There's no commentary, so there's
Speaker 1: something good in there two twenty five to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Ferry with no commentary two fifty seven to two sixty
Speaker 1: Jack Arnold, doctor Kyle Ham, doctor hamm Is, Gladys Rogers psychiatrist.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is Gladys Rogers? Carol E. Hyde, Garland Lanningham,
Speaker 1: Michael and Ruth Payne, George Stevenson, Missus Rogers two eighty
Speaker 1: one to three oh four Ferry analysis sent three oh
Speaker 1: seven to three eleven. Ferry three thirteen to three sixteen Ferry,
Speaker 1: Va Belle, Verrett, v E, R, R E. T. And
Speaker 1: Vorhees three nineteen to three twenty three. Fairy Erlicker, Meister
Speaker 1: and Vabelle. Those names are associated with the Civil Air Patrol.
Speaker 1: Erlicker Erliker was the head of the Civil Air Patrol
Speaker 1: in louis All, Louisiana, three forty one three forty three. Ferry, Rattle,
Speaker 1: att R A D E. L A. T. Vabell Coffee Compton,
Speaker 1: de Plantis Moore, Civil Air Patrol, Wilson, Steve Harden Joseph
Speaker 1: Thompson three forty five to three forty seven v C.
Speaker 1: Bilbo Trucking Company. Okay, So the Bilbo Trucking Company stuff
Speaker 1: I believe is evidence of Oswald's front jobs when he
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be working and having unemployment. He was
Speaker 1: collecting a paycheck from Bilbo Trucking and he when he
Speaker 1: went there, he went by the name Harvey. Remember the
Speaker 1: guy we know is Lee Harvey Oswald who went to
Speaker 1: jail on November twenty second, that's Harvey Oswald. That's not
Speaker 1: the real Lee Oswald who disappeared in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 1: All Right, So the Bilbo Trucking stuff very important. If
Speaker 1: you are interested, go pull that. It's John Armstrong has
Speaker 1: a lot of information on it on his document site
Speaker 1: four hundred. John C. Hureton h E U R T
Speaker 1: I N William E. Miller VIC PISERA p I S
Speaker 1: S E r A. I think that spelling's wrong. John
Speaker 1: Shay sh e A. Harold Chromed cro m I it's
Speaker 1: either two t's or two l's. But I never heard
Speaker 1: the name Crommeller before. Henry Thompson, George Vath, John Wax,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Yeager, Milton, Danner, Dick White, Ao Fonville, Hidell spelt wrong,
Speaker 1: numerous first names Abner, Alberic, Albert J. Dominade, Antoine, Elvera,
Speaker 1: Hazel L, judith A Lluella c Is, a lot of
Speaker 1: names with just an abbreviation Ronda, duh Rita, Roger J.
Speaker 1: And then Hidell spelled hi A d e l L
Speaker 1: and Hidell h y d e l L, and then
Speaker 1: fair play for Cuba committee. Those all fall between pages
Speaker 1: four fifteen and four thirty six, page four sixty one,
Speaker 1: four sixty two, Marcel Clark, Robert Oswald, Harold J. Stafford
Speaker 1: for sixty six, Ed Turnley four seventy five to four
Speaker 1: seventy seven, Missus Arden F. Gibbs, Missus Elva, Santoine, Robert
Speaker 1: Milton Santoine and from Motel a n f A Motel Well,
Speaker 1: that sounds interesting, Carlos Brenier, Evon Cooper, Norman Fetzer, someone
Speaker 1: named Florence and quotes Missus Maud Forsyth, Florence Gleezer, g
Speaker 1: L E A s E R. Gregory Grobka, g r
Speaker 1: A b k A, doctor Forrest La Volette e J Leebhold.
Speaker 1: And then we have just a license number licensed b
Speaker 1: L five five two five, New York. It's a license
Speaker 1: plate Arthur W. Moehler, M O E L L E
Speaker 1: R Anthony I Oswald O S S W A L
Speaker 1: D Okay, So that Oswald the Oswald but two SS.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting story because at the exact same time
Speaker 1: that Oswald was allegedly down in Mexico City, we all
Speaker 1: know it was Kerrie Thornley. But when at the time
Speaker 1: when Oswald was supposed to be down there, the FBI
Speaker 1: found another guy named Oswald Anthony Oswald I believe it was,
Speaker 1: who was in naval intelligence and that weekend he was
Speaker 1: sent down to Mexico to go hand out flyers on
Speaker 1: college campuses. And his name is Oswald with two s's right.
Speaker 1: And then there's also an Oswaldo who was down there
Speaker 1: in Mexico City doing stuff at the exact same time, right.
Speaker 1: So the CIA plays their fucking games. They sent multiple
Speaker 1: people named Oswald to go to fucking Mexico City except
Speaker 1: for the real Oswald, which is hilarious. But there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of Oswald names here, osswld Irene, Mary Anthony. They
Speaker 1: did a whole background on the family Leonard Reisman, ri
Speaker 1: E I S. S. M An Anthony Resca, Irene Resca
Speaker 1: and Jack N. Rogers. That Jack Rogers name. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the deal is it. People try to say
Speaker 1: that somebody named Jack Rogers was involved, like as the
Speaker 1: short Tramp and all that's total bullshit, nonsense, all right.
Speaker 1: Commission Documents, seventy five continued Classified Pages five nine to
Speaker 1: five nineteen. Edwin Schultz, ed Turnley, Cecilia twaro'z JD. Looks
Speaker 1: like I can't see the first letter. I think it's JD. Vincent,
Speaker 1: Missus Lee Williams, Henry Wonderlick, Page five forty five American Embassy, Moscow.
Speaker 1: Remember these are all the classified pages that we haven't seen.
Speaker 1: So why are why are all these names being associated
Speaker 1: with a document that's classified? Right? So I remember American Embassy, Moscow,
Speaker 1: Howard J. Herbert Clarence Johnson, June Lee Oswald, Marina Oswald,
Speaker 1: Byron Phillips, Mister Eugene Urban five seventy two to five
Speaker 1: seventy four. Ken Diaz de Eas present, Vice President mid
Speaker 1: South Press, Shreveport, Florence de Men Florence de menmm I
Speaker 1: don't no, no, no, no, no there's nobody named de Men. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now it was making me think, well, I can't remember
Speaker 1: offhand what was Jean de Manil's wife's name. Was it Florence?
Speaker 1: I don't know. My brain isn't telling me that it's
Speaker 1: not Florence, but I don't know offhand. And if it's
Speaker 1: the case, whenever I seeing something like Demn, this doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. It makes more sense that
Speaker 1: it's Demonil. But I'll have to do some looking into that.
Speaker 1: George Henry, Domine Demn, Christine Steele, Eatman, Missus, Millie Kraft, Farrington, William,
Speaker 1: George Gauday, Henry, Edward Lemon Linman, Bagoline, Luigi, David Pierce,
Speaker 1: Maggie Are that's a David Faerri's pilot friend, Arthur Crandall, Mason, Gordon,
Speaker 1: Edward May, Missus, Lillian Stanton, Merrill, Missus, Judy, Marie North,
Speaker 1: Samuel Thomas North, Robert Howard Peevey, Maline Carter Peevey, Richard,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Fillion. Yeah. You don't see these names come up
Speaker 1: anywhere else in the investigation, do you? But here they're
Speaker 1: all classified interesting. Henry Lee seven five to seven oh six,
Speaker 1: Carlos Brenier, Fairplay for Cuba first named unknown, hidel International Trademark,
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Francis Martello, Jack Ruby, a Government of Samosa That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Thompson's Restaurant and Tulane University UH seven oh seven unclassified
Speaker 1: deals with FPCC literature found among Oswald's possessions at Ruth
Speaker 1: Payne's house on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. Seven
Speaker 1: to eight, seven oh nine. Christina Amore, Manuel Amore, Marvin Brown, Cia,
Speaker 1: Lillian McFarland, Saint Petersburg Times, John Sider, Tampa Bay Chapter
Speaker 1: of fair Play for Cuba Committee, Harold Wilson, probably all
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay FPCC stuff related, Vincent Lee et cetera. Seven
Speaker 1: thirty four to seven thirty seven. These pages constitute the
Speaker 1: appending to the document. There are no references to any
Speaker 1: proper names in the index. They probably contain references to
Speaker 1: the reliability of various FBI confidential informants, as in the
Speaker 1: appendices to other FBI documents. There is some indication not
Speaker 1: the list of names to be found on page five
Speaker 1: seven two to five seven four are people who obtained
Speaker 1: Mexican travel visas in New Orleans around the same time
Speaker 1: as Oswald this is anyway true of Godday North and
Speaker 1: Merrill and Maggie are and a few others who are
Speaker 1: mentioned on other unclassified pages. Godday Pobox three sixty five, Waveland,
Speaker 1: Mississippi also indicated that he has in the past been
Speaker 1: an employee of the CIA. There are a total of
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixteen classified pages in this document, or
Speaker 1: slightly less than one sixth of the total number of pages.
Speaker 1: And that's from Tom Bethel, National Archives, Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: May twenty fourth, nineteen sixty seven. Some additional notes looks
Speaker 1: like it's from the same document. This one' says National Archives.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Rifle found on this is like a
Speaker 1: list of various things. Rifle found on roof of Texas
Speaker 1: school Book Depository see Volume fifteen, page five ninety testimony
Speaker 1: of fair Waldo. According to Sprague, a sequence showing this
Speaker 1: rifle being brought down from the roof of the Texas
Speaker 1: school Book Depository is shown in the Dallas Cinema Associates
Speaker 1: film of the assassination. Apparently it does not have a
Speaker 1: telescopic site all right, So there's some contradictory information on
Speaker 1: the rifle on the roof of the book depository tom Aleia,
Speaker 1: who filmed the Ilia film. Obviously, he denies that he
Speaker 1: filmed them coming off the roof, and he says there
Speaker 1: was no rifle found on the roof. However, the rifle
Speaker 1: on the roof was identify as a mauser confirmed to
Speaker 1: be a mauser by the Dallas Police Department, and this
Speaker 1: appears in Gary Shaw's nineteen sixty seven book cover Up.
Speaker 1: It's one of the best early books on the assassination
Speaker 1: because it points out all kinds of stuff that they
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out. How's the picture of Lawrence Howard, the
Speaker 1: Mexican detained for not speaking English, the one that I
Speaker 1: still can't fit into any kind of timeline. So let
Speaker 1: me continue on parole of Lee Harvey Oswald. Joyce O'Brien,
Speaker 1: Lillian Morett's daughter, went to see Oswald in jail and
Speaker 1: then contacted a family friend, Emil Bruno, who operates the
Speaker 1: B and W Package liquor store two seven one two
Speaker 1: Canal Street, and mister Bruno contacted someone else who had
Speaker 1: Oswald paroled. Right. That was all done through DUTs Moret's
Speaker 1: buddy people trying to make a big dealer with the
Speaker 1: mob connection. There, I don't really think it's a much
Speaker 1: of a big deal. Raymond Comstock FBI Report eleven twenty seven,
Speaker 1: sixty three SA Regis Kennedy, Raymond Comstock, Investigator District Attorney's Office,
Speaker 1: advised that Dean Andrews, attorney at law, had contacted him
Speaker 1: attempted to identify Clay Bertrand. Comstock advised he was familiar
Speaker 1: with a number of homosexuals in the New Orleans French Quarter,
Speaker 1: but has been unable to identify this individual. R M.
Speaker 1: Davis FBI Report eleven twenty seven to sixty three, SA
Speaker 1: Regis Kennedy R. M. Davis, investigator for Dean Andrews, attorney
Speaker 1: at law, Audubon Building, New Orleans, Louisiana, advised, upon the
Speaker 1: instruction of his employer, Dean Andrews, he has made extensive
Speaker 1: searches of the files of Andrews's office and has been
Speaker 1: unable to locate any records of Clay Bertrand or a
Speaker 1: record of Lee Harvey Oswald. He advised that he recalls
Speaker 1: Oswald visiting Andrew's office. And Andrews had mentioned to him
Speaker 1: that Oswald was desirous of obtaining a hearing on his
Speaker 1: bad conduct discharge. From the US Marine Corps. Davis advised
Speaker 1: he could not recall or identify any the individuals with
Speaker 1: whom Oswald came to the office. Jack Nelson, CD seventy five,
Speaker 1: page one ninety five. An attorney contacted one Robert Heller,
Speaker 1: now living in New York, to represent Oswald after his
Speaker 1: arrest on Canal Street. Heller had witnessed the arrest CE
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight. Robert Heller. That's interesting. Who the Hell's
Speaker 1: Robert Heller? More names on classified faery pages. The following
Speaker 1: two names were omitted from my earlier list of proper
Speaker 1: names mentioned on the forty classified faery pages. Harold Toole
Speaker 1: tol E and Joseph Thompson. I think those names are
Speaker 1: probably pretty important to look up. Henry Gagreave, owner Henry's
Speaker 1: Market fifty one oh one Magazine Street, advised that during
Speaker 1: the early afternoon of November twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 1: two young people apparently man and wife and apparently cuban,
Speaker 1: came into his store told him that Oswald was not
Speaker 1: guilty and should not have been shot. They were apparently
Speaker 1: friends or sympathizers of Oswalden, both about nineteen five foot
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds Spanish accent from Tom Bethel
Speaker 1: National Archives, May twenty fourth, sixty seven. All right, now,
Speaker 1: it seems that we have a handwritten memo, all right,
Speaker 1: dated September twenty fifth, sixty nine. EL are the initials
Speaker 1: up top underlined. David W. Ferry joined EL four sixteen
Speaker 1: fifty one Eastern Airlines. Okay, David Ferry joined Eastern Airlines
Speaker 1: for sixteen fifty one, promoted to captain seven one fifty
Speaker 1: seven fifty one to fifty seven. That's a long time
Speaker 1: he was at the Eastern Airlines A long time. Social
Speaker 1: Security two eight two eighteen eight two one nine. Mailing
Speaker 1: address seventeen three oh two Laverne Avenue, Cleveland, Mother missus
Speaker 1: James Ferry dated birth twenty eighth of March nineteen eighteen,
Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, nineteen fifty Jeta Oil and Drilling. So
Speaker 1: I can find no record of a Jeta Oil and
Speaker 1: Drilling at all period. The address seven fourteen Swetland Street
Speaker 1: is actually not Swetland Street, it's Swetland Building. I don't
Speaker 1: know what street that's actually on. Somebody commented on exit
Speaker 1: that's an actual building, but I couldn't find the actual road.
Speaker 1: So but I did an extensive search for Jeta Oil
Speaker 1: and Drilling doesn't exist, never existed. This is a time
Speaker 1: when he would have been with well, let's just say
Speaker 1: the post oss intelligence forces here in the US. He
Speaker 1: would have been down in Tampa in forty nine. He
Speaker 1: was seen at the airport in Venice with Clay Shaw
Speaker 1: in forty seven. So yeah, that's Jeto Oil and Drilling
Speaker 1: is CIA front time. As of fifty one, he had
Speaker 1: flown in Canada and in Mexico. No military, no reserve.
Speaker 1: That's been proven false. He was reserved during that time,
Speaker 1: and he was supposed to be with the Jeda Oil
Speaker 1: and Drilling company in elementary high school. We got all
Speaker 1: those records. We've talked about that stuff before g ray
Speaker 1: Gill was attorney References Discharge. Ferry says in nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: nine he had been in giving talks on communism three
Speaker 1: a week at the request of station managers in the Southwest,
Speaker 1: mostly about communism, assisted with Cuban refugees from Red Cuba.
Speaker 1: July sixty one, I was advised I was going to
Speaker 1: have my something pulled if I didn't layoff. August sixty one,
Speaker 1: landing charge The man really after me was a Richard Dowling,
Speaker 1: suspended from flying nineteen sixty one. These are called quotes here.
Speaker 1: I feel I was getting too close to something and
Speaker 1: my fangs were pulled something his talks to by Rickenbacher.
Speaker 1: And then the quote I was never treated for mental problems.
Speaker 1: Quote I'm a PhD from Italy, Catholic all his life.
Speaker 1: Quote I understand two people were discharged from Eastern who
Speaker 1: were communists classified four D on five twenty one forty one.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Classified four dash D
Speaker 1: on five twenty one forty one. Saint Charles Seminary in
Speaker 1: Ohio Ferry was Private E two in the US Army Reserve,
Speaker 1: serial number one five two nine six four nine from
Speaker 1: four thirteen fifty to four seventeen fifty three, received honorable discharge.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, New Orleans Delegate two
Speaker 1: oh seven Balter Building, New Orleans, eighteenth, July sixty one,
Speaker 1: Captain Eddie Rickenbacker, Chairman of the Board, Dear Captain Rickenbacker,
Speaker 1: as you know, the above organization is the Provisional Cuban Government.
Speaker 1: This is the letter from our CONCA which we already
Speaker 1: read through this. This is like a shorter version of it.
Speaker 1: It's handwritten. The last one was like multiple pages upon pages,
Speaker 1: and here this one's only two paragraphs. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: has a bunch of dates listed here. August nineteen fifty nine,
Speaker 1: FBI tips Customs that Ferry may be involved in gun running, wiretap.
Speaker 1: July fifth, fifty one proposal to remove Ferry from Eastern
Speaker 1: Airlines payroll based on the retail credit reports. He was not,
Speaker 1: in fact removed. Huh. So they were onto Ferry being
Speaker 1: shady right from the jump when they hired him at
Speaker 1: the same time that he's in that's wild. So he's
Speaker 1: getting hired by Eastern Airlines as a pilot at the
Speaker 1: exact same time he spent three years in the reserves,
Speaker 1: which are not reserves, are fake, they're intelligence covers. April eighth,
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty three. Looks like fa stone to Rickenbacker. Given
Speaker 1: background in Ferry alludes to something trouble in Cleveland. Women trouble,
Speaker 1: That's what it says, Women trouble in Cleveland. Before he
Speaker 1: was hired by ea L. Women trouble means he was
Speaker 1: having nothing to do with women. March twenty third, fifty
Speaker 1: three Rickenbacker to fairy letter of I can't read that.
Speaker 1: Looks like ungraduation. But that's not right in his promotional work.
Speaker 1: I can't read that in sw keep up to good work.
Speaker 1: Note at the bottom, this man's efforts bear watching, and
Speaker 1: his qualifications justify his being used and helpful whenever possible
Speaker 1: line of duty and even beyond assigned. EVR. Phoenix University
Speaker 1: has fake Francesco Amorey Dargona academic an academic mill. Basically
Speaker 1: what it says, all right, and then the next page
Speaker 1: has more handwritten notes on Ferry's got a face. Most
Speaker 1: of his background is fake. Right. We know he went
Speaker 1: to the seminary and all that stuff. But here it
Speaker 1: says Saint Coleman grad School four years, Saint Patrick Grad
Speaker 1: School three years, Saint Ignacious for four years, Baldwin Wallace
Speaker 1: College for three years, Mary's Seminary in Cleveland nineteen thirty
Speaker 1: eight to nineteen forty, Baldwin Wallace College forty to forty five.
Speaker 1: See this is all nonsense, Like he didn't go to
Speaker 1: all these different schools. He went to Baldwin Wallace, he
Speaker 1: went to Saint Charles, and I think that was it.
Speaker 1: Saint Ignacius in High School, where Danny Green went to school.
Speaker 1: It has pointed out that information had been received that
Speaker 1: Ferry had promised Cruche a motorcycle for changing his testimony
Speaker 1: and withdrawing his complaints. That is definitely true. See Eastern
Speaker 1: Airlines was well aware of all this stuff. Airline Transport
Speaker 1: pilot Something three three five eighty six, six seven, nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty seven, March something, January nineteen forty nine. Subject has
Speaker 1: been reported period at residence at three fourteen Zach Street, Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 1: He was reported married with two dependents Sunnyside Fly School. Okay,
Speaker 1: so in forty nine he lived at Zach Street, Tampa
Speaker 1: and he had two dependents, right, and then we find
Speaker 1: the Eastern Airlines determined he's got David Ferry Junior kicking
Speaker 1: around right. So this to me is very important stuff,
Speaker 1: very important stuff. Fifteen days duty at Fort Campbell. Ferry
Speaker 1: in contact with Paul Fournet. I think it's what it says. Lafayette, Louisiana,
Speaker 1: Julian Martin's and Julian Buzzando in Miami. Fairy has stated
Speaker 1: that he is sending Leyton Martin's to the Something jsw
Speaker 1: something at Lafayette, Louisiana. Fairy is allegedly running and writer
Speaker 1: Missus Martin's, who is separated from her husband and who
Speaker 1: may be working as a waitress. At one time, Ferry
Speaker 1: ran around with a Negro named Marcel, who worked as
Speaker 1: a mechanic on his private airplane. Interesting, all right, we're
Speaker 1: onto the System Board of Adjustment Eastern Airlines, Inc. Grievances
Speaker 1: of Captain David Ferry Deposition of Layton Martin's taken July twelfth,
Speaker 1: sixty three, at New Orleans, Louisiana. So I just think
Speaker 1: it's wild that these guys got in all this legal
Speaker 1: trouble and all this stuff. Really, for David Ferry, it's
Speaker 1: stretched from like sixty all the way through like the
Speaker 1: beginning of sixty three, and like he didn't even have
Speaker 1: like a couple months break, and then he's back in
Speaker 1: under the microscope for the Kennedy assassination. It's like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: there were so many warning signs. All right, doesn't say
Speaker 1: who the interviewer is, but this is definitely in regards
Speaker 1: to David Ferry's Eastern Airline stuff deposition for that. So
Speaker 1: here we go. What is your name? Leyton P. Martin's.
Speaker 1: What is your address? One point thirty six General Gardner, Lafayette, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Are you of legal age, sir? Yes, sir. Do you
Speaker 1: know Captain David Ferry? Yes, sir. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: a member of the Civil Air Patrol? Yes? What squadron?
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Cadet Squadron. Have you ever been a
Speaker 1: member of the Falcon Squadron? Yes? I have. Did you
Speaker 1: hold me position of authority in the Falcons? Yes? I did.
Speaker 1: Would you name that position and describe its duties? I
Speaker 1: was the adjudant. I was responsible for all the paperwork, files, records, applications,
Speaker 1: ID cards, the squadron paper and so on. Was the
Speaker 1: Falcon Squadron part of the Louisiana Wing of the Civil
Speaker 1: Air Patrol? No, sir. Was it part of the national organization?
Speaker 1: The Falcons were an entirely independent organization with its own existence,
Speaker 1: its own rules, its own purpose, its own articles of incorporation,
Speaker 1: and its own activities with what organizations? Was it connected? None? State?
Speaker 1: If you remember who were the incorporators of the Falcons,
Speaker 1: it was Dave Ferry, John Irian, Jim LewAllen and Ned Mendez.
Speaker 1: Were they members of the Falcons. Yes, they were seniors.
Speaker 1: What is a senior? A senior is an adult member
Speaker 1: over twenty one, under twenty one, we call them cadets.
Speaker 1: We were cip ID cards or CIPID cards ever issued
Speaker 1: any members? Yes, as temporary ID cards until we decided
Speaker 1: to go independent. What happened to these temporary ID cards?
Speaker 1: They were withdrawn or recalled and our own issued. Is
Speaker 1: this such an ID card showing a blue card? Yes?
Speaker 1: To whom was this card issued? John Espinin who wrote
Speaker 1: the word temporary across the face? I don't recall. It
Speaker 1: could be my handwriting, though, or Captain Ferries or the
Speaker 1: first sergeants. Was a mister Espinon a member of the squadron. Yes,
Speaker 1: here's a copy of his application for membership. He proffers
Speaker 1: a paper to mister Gil, who has had a charge
Speaker 1: of these files I have. Was mister espin In a
Speaker 1: senior or a cadet? This application is for Espinon's father,
Speaker 1: and he was a senior, and Johnny the son was
Speaker 1: a cadet. You say the Falcons were an independent organization.
Speaker 1: Was this generally known? Certainly? How do you know everybody
Speaker 1: in the squadron knew it because we had meetings to
Speaker 1: discuss our future status and what we wanted to do. Besides,
Speaker 1: I sent out a copy of the squadron paper to
Speaker 1: everybody in the mail. Did mister Espinon ever come and
Speaker 1: pick up any papers or charter covering the falcons? Yes?
Speaker 1: He did. When did that occur in August nineteen sixty one?
Speaker 1: How can you be certain of the date it was?
Speaker 1: At the time, Missus Landry was making it hot for everybody.
Speaker 1: I remember because he came to Captain Ferri's house. Captain
Speaker 1: Ferry was not home. His boy went in and got
Speaker 1: the papers from Captain Ferry's desk. Was this a state charter? Yes?
Speaker 1: It was. The squadrons in the year nineteen sixty You
Speaker 1: belonged to the New Orleans Squadron Civil Air Patrol. Yes.
Speaker 1: Did that squadron have a summer encampment that year? Yes?
Speaker 1: Where was it held at? Keisler Air Force Base? Okay,
Speaker 1: so let me just bause real quick. Keisler Air Force
Speaker 1: Base is in Biloxi, Mississippi, where Oswald went to a
Speaker 1: bunch of his marine aircraft warning and control operator stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: that's one hell of a weird coincidence that the Civil
Speaker 1: Air Patrol from New Orleans. The state issued one. The
Speaker 1: New Orleans Squadron went there in nineteen sixty. Now Oswald
Speaker 1: was there in nineteen fifty seven, so this is years
Speaker 1: before Oswald would have been there. Oswald was long gone
Speaker 1: by nineteen sixty. But it's interesting, right, It's interesting what
Speaker 1: was going on between the Civil Air Patrol and Kesler
Speaker 1: Air Force Base, which is where they did all the
Speaker 1: top secret stuff. All the stuff that they kept off
Speaker 1: of your Marine duty roster is stuff they did at Keisler.
Speaker 1: So there's an interesting connection there. I think that should
Speaker 1: be explored. Who was in charge of that encampment, Colonel
Speaker 1: Samuel B. Davis? What position did Captain Ferry hold at
Speaker 1: that encampment? He was commandant of cadets. What was the
Speaker 1: chain of command at that encampment? In other words, starting
Speaker 1: with Colonel Davis, how did the orders or commands come
Speaker 1: down to the cadets By the chain of command, orders
Speaker 1: would originate with Colonel Davis and go through Captain Ferry
Speaker 1: and to the individual cadet commanders in charge of each
Speaker 1: barrack of cadets, who was immediately over the cadets. Captain
Speaker 1: Ferry was a Lieutenant Colonel Christianaise in charge. No was
Speaker 1: he there? Yes? In what capacity? Was he there as
Speaker 1: a sort of advisor? He did not have any command function.
Speaker 1: Did any dispute rise at Keesler that involved Captain Ferry? Yes,
Speaker 1: it did. What was the nature of that dispute? If
Speaker 1: you know to your knowledge, Well, every senior that showed
Speaker 1: up thought he was a commander and started issuing orders.
Speaker 1: The result was confusion. Every senior was contradicting everybody else.
Speaker 1: The cadets then complained to Captain Ferry, who was immediately
Speaker 1: above them. Captain Ferry said we should follow the chain
Speaker 1: of command. And then some seniors went to Colonel Davis
Speaker 1: and he told them the same thing. So they went
Speaker 1: to Christiansen. All the seniors wanted to be chiefs and
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to be indians. Where any decisions arrived at
Speaker 1: in this matter? Yes? What were those decisions? If you
Speaker 1: know that a bunch of us quit and walked out,
Speaker 1: why was that? Because we got disgusted with the Air Force.
Speaker 1: They had preached military courtesy and discipline and chain of command,
Speaker 1: and Christiansen wanted to turn all this upside down. A
Speaker 1: lot of the fellows thought that something was along with
Speaker 1: what the Air Force had told us about how they worked.
Speaker 1: We could not see it was possible for Colonel Christensen
Speaker 1: to preach one thing and practice another. Did you know
Speaker 1: of these criminal charges against capt'n Fery? Yes? How do
Speaker 1: you know of them? I was subpoenaed as a witness
Speaker 1: at his trial. Did you know James Landry and Eric Crusche? Yes?
Speaker 1: I did see here it says James Landry, but it
Speaker 1: was Al Landry in the other documents. To what did
Speaker 1: you testify at the trial? I testified that since I
Speaker 1: was a resident of capt'n Fairy's house, that I had
Speaker 1: firsthand knowledge of the impossibility of these charges being true.
Speaker 1: After all, I lived there, and if anyone would have known,
Speaker 1: I would have How'd you come to live at Captain
Speaker 1: Fairy's house? My mother and father separated and our home
Speaker 1: broke up. My mother asked Captain Ferry and his mother
Speaker 1: if I could stay with them, as I had no
Speaker 1: place to go. Where was Fairey's mother should have been
Speaker 1: Cleveland at this time? Are you working at Southwestern? What
Speaker 1: activity has went on in the Falcon squadron? Captain Fairy
Speaker 1: taught us reciprocal engines and had us overhaul a couple
Speaker 1: under FA supervision. They were passed. We recovered an airplane
Speaker 1: and it passed. We did metal and it passed the FAA.
Speaker 1: We also studied mathematics, aerodynamics, and physics. I learned geometry
Speaker 1: in about three weeks this way. What was the object
Speaker 1: or purpose of the squadron? Most of us wanted careers
Speaker 1: in aviation. Either we wanted to go to the Air
Speaker 1: Force Academy or aviation cadets, or in aeroscience. And we
Speaker 1: don't have a very good school system and this was
Speaker 1: the best way to get the things we needed and
Speaker 1: did not know. Captain Fairy had helped four fellows into
Speaker 1: the Air Force Academy before we knew he could help us.
Speaker 1: That was why we went to him and asked them
Speaker 1: for him to form this squadron. All right, that document
Speaker 1: comes to an end right there? Know what do we
Speaker 1: have next? Next? We have another It looks like an
Speaker 1: arrest report New Orleans Police Department supplementary report contributing to
Speaker 1: the delinquency of a minor and intimidation August fifth, sixty
Speaker 1: one to August sixteenth, sixty one. So this must be
Speaker 1: the air cruchet stuff. Again. He was arrested charge in
Speaker 1: the fifth District. Here's the details. On Thursday morning, August
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, nineteen sixty one, investigating officers received a phone
Speaker 1: call from mister Alexander Landry, who stated that juvenile Michael
Speaker 1: Crusche had come to his residence on the night of Wednesday,
Speaker 1: August twenty third, sixty one, told of being contacted by
Speaker 1: David Ferry. The boy told mister Landry that Ferry was
Speaker 1: trying to get him Crushe to drop the charges. We
Speaker 1: already know all this stuff. I think I'm gonna skip
Speaker 1: over this document here in particular, I think we already
Speaker 1: read this one. Basically, he went and tried to intimidate
Speaker 1: that kid, and then the kid ended up dropping all
Speaker 1: the charges. Let me see. At one oh five pm
Speaker 1: August twenty fourth, sixty one, investigating officers received another call
Speaker 1: from Cruche that David Ferry had come to see him again.
Speaker 1: Cruche stated the Ferry and another subject had just left
Speaker 1: him and after getting angry after getting him asign another paper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we already read all this stuff. You can skip over
Speaker 1: all this funny because he's like very adamant when he
Speaker 1: talks to the cops about what David Ferry did. But
Speaker 1: then when the charges move forward, he ends up dropping everything.
Speaker 1: You know, he was more scared of David Ferry than
Speaker 1: he was of the of lyone of the cops. All right. Next,
Speaker 1: we have a paper from Southern Research Company. Once we
Speaker 1: finished this, we'll probably call it for the day four
Speaker 1: forty two West Building, Houston, Texas, titled David William Ferry
Speaker 1: aka David W. Ferry or Dave Character Investigation background synopsis.
Speaker 1: Subject arrested so O Jefferson Parish, Louisiana, eight eight sixty
Speaker 1: one and three twenty two or A twenty two to
Speaker 1: sixty one, charged with carnal knowledge contributing to the delinquency
Speaker 1: of a juvenile and decent behavior, and crimes against nature.
Speaker 1: Charge is still pending, but dismissal anticipated. Subject arrested New
Speaker 1: Orleans PD two sixteen sixty two and charged relative to
Speaker 1: extortion charge pending and New Orleans DA anticipates moving to trial.
Speaker 1: New Orleans Retail Credit Bureau shows current residence for subject
Speaker 1: at thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Two small accounts for collection two news clippings relative to
Speaker 1: his arrests no other derogatory data. Subject employed as investigator
Speaker 1: for local attorney who represents him on critical charges are
Speaker 1: on criminal charges. Ferry owner of nineteen sixty Ford Tutor
Speaker 1: sedan bearing nineteen sixty two Louisiana, registration three six zero
Speaker 1: one cars being financed. Last payment on account was dated
Speaker 1: nine twenty six sixty two, nineteen fifty nine. Ford found
Speaker 1: registered to David W. Ferry, Junior, eleven Prospects Street, Alexandria, Louisiana,
Speaker 1: but efforts to identify negative to date neighborhoods at past
Speaker 1: residences of subject. Negative regarding knowledge of involvement in activities
Speaker 1: of derogatory nature. Observation of subject after working hours eleven
Speaker 1: nine ten and eleven sixty two reflects subject may still
Speaker 1: be associating with youths involved in instant charges instant meeting
Speaker 1: these charges. And then we get into let me see
Speaker 1: what do we have here. We have a pretty lengthy
Speaker 1: surveillance document. So we'll call here for today and we'll
Speaker 1: pick up with the surveillance document next time. And I
Speaker 1: hope everybody had a good Christmas, happy New Year. If
Speaker 1: you haven't picked up my book yet, please go do so.
Speaker 1: Warning from History and Lee Harvey Oswald and Black and White.
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald, Black and Whit Volume two should be
Speaker 1: out by February. I'm about fifty pages in and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get cracking on it after the first of the year,
Speaker 1: and it's only gonna be about three to three hundred pages,
Speaker 1: about the same as the last book, and so I
Speaker 1: should be able to knock it out in those two months.
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping to get that done because I
Speaker 1: really want to get onto Oswald and Russia and I
Speaker 1: don't like to jump ahead of myself. And so once
Speaker 1: that book's out, we're gonna spend probably like six months,
Speaker 1: nine months or a year or something like that on
Speaker 1: Oswald's time in Russia because we're probably gonna end up
Speaker 1: debunking the whole fucking thing, and fucking guy probably never
Speaker 1: went to the Russia. Who fuck even knows anymore. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for me. Guys. I'll be back
Speaker 1: on Monday, and uh we will pick up here. Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody.