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<v Speaker 1>Good morning everybody. Corey used bloody history. And we're continuing

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<v Speaker 1>on with this David Ferry File three. And we've come

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<v Speaker 1>with a document which I'm gonna say is probably of

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<v Speaker 1>utmost importance. It is a document we don't have. We

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<v Speaker 1>have just a little sample of it. This is Commissioned

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<v Speaker 1>Document seventy five Report of Special Agent Warren Debrize, dated twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>two sixty three at Dallas, Texas. A couple things of

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<v Speaker 1>note here. Warren de Breeze is based out of Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>His name constantly comes up in the FBI level conspiracy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he'd have access to this file, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The important thing about these documents here, with the Commission

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<v Speaker 1>documents is that they're all basically classified. Still we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have them. There's about two hundred Commission documents, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. They're specifically called Commission documents in quotes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where all the goods are, that's where all the

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<v Speaker 1>really good stuff is, but we don't have any of it. That's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know something, the Commission documents. Remember how once I

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<v Speaker 1>said that there's definitely another Warren report out there that

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<v Speaker 1>says all the real stuff behind the scenes. Because they

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<v Speaker 1>had communications that they had to talk about before they

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<v Speaker 1>formulated this the fake ass report. So all the real

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is still there, So there has to be another

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<v Speaker 1>second report, and all these commission documents are probably a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. There are tens of thousands of pages,

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<v Speaker 1>if not more. So this one here says the above

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<v Speaker 1>document in two volumes and seven hundred thirty seven pages long. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Commission Document seventy five is seven hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven pages long. All right, there's two hundred, at least

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred commission documents. I mean, this has got to

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<v Speaker 1>be tens of thousands of pages, if not one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pages. I mean, there's just so much in these

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<v Speaker 1>commission documents and we don't know any of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>as I go through the names that are listed here,

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<v Speaker 1>please take very careful note because a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>names don't appear anywhere else in the Kennedy assassination investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a feeling a lot of these names

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have relevance to stuff that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know yet. So all right, let me go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and read this analysis of classified pages. The above document

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<v Speaker 1>in two volumes and seven hundred and thirty seven pages long,

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most important FBI reports in the archives.

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<v Speaker 1>It also contains more material about New Orleans than any

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<v Speaker 1>other document, including the forty classified pages on David Ferry.

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<v Speaker 1>It is also the document which Wegman was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>on May tenth. Like all the bulky documents pertaining to

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<v Speaker 1>the assassination, it is in the List B category, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that it is unclassified, but numerous pages are withdrawn

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<v Speaker 1>at the request of the FBI. Portions of the document

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<v Speaker 1>have been published as CES eighteen ninety six to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty two, but the majority of it is unpublished CE

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety six to nineteen forty two. If one of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys in the chat want to pull that up

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<v Speaker 1>and post it, all right, So pages classified on the left,

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<v Speaker 1>names mentioned on the right. So all the pages that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read are classified, and all the names

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<v Speaker 1>are the names that are associated with it. Page one

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<v Speaker 1>twelve Chandler, T. Josie jos Y one sixty four to

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<v Speaker 1>one sixty six, J. W. Hammett, M. Herdhoff, John Morrett,

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<v Speaker 1>dutz Morett, Jen Morrett, and Alan Waller W. A. L. E. R.

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<v Speaker 1>The Morrett stuff is all family related Naval Intelligence Page

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty Yvonne Cooper ed Turnley. Page one eighty one

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<v Speaker 1>was Xeroxton sent in brackets, Archie Fucelle, John David Kilgore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry this is moving off the next one page

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty two and A one eighty three, John David Kilgore,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight thirty Chapman Street, Shreveport, Louisiana, Major Orville Richards,

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<v Speaker 1>William Thornton, pages two O seven to two ten J. W. Hammett,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Barringer, Jack Irwin, Mike Gacone. That name's familiar. H

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Klopfer. The Cloapfer name was associated with Oswald. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe over in that was a teacher's name. O in

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<v Speaker 1>A where was it? Coventry, Louisiana, Covington, Louisiana. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>missus l W. Mathin, Augustus michel A John Morrett again,

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<v Speaker 1>Florence Morat, I don't know who that is. And Ruth Morat. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's two other names. Well it's spelled m m

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<v Speaker 1>U r at. But they do stuff like that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time to switch names. So Florence Morat and Ruth Morat,

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<v Speaker 1>those names need to be looked into if they're connected

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<v Speaker 1>to John two twelve to two twenty one Ferry analysis

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<v Speaker 1>of these pages already sent. There's no commentary, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>something good in there two twenty five to twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry with no commentary two fifty seven to two sixty

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Arnold, doctor Kyle Ham, doctor hamm Is, Gladys Rogers psychiatrist.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the fuck is Gladys Rogers? Carol E. Hyde, Garland Lanningham,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and Ruth Payne, George Stevenson, Missus Rogers two eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one to three oh four Ferry analysis sent three oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven to three eleven. Ferry three thirteen to three sixteen Ferry,

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<v Speaker 1>Va Belle, Verrett, v E, R, R E. T. And

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<v Speaker 1>Vorhees three nineteen to three twenty three. Fairy Erlicker, Meister

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<v Speaker 1>and Vabelle. Those names are associated with the Civil Air Patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>Erlicker Erliker was the head of the Civil Air Patrol

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<v Speaker 1>in louis All, Louisiana, three forty one three forty three. Ferry, Rattle,

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<v Speaker 1>att R A D E. L A. T. Vabell Coffee Compton,

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<v Speaker 1>de Plantis Moore, Civil Air Patrol, Wilson, Steve Harden Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson three forty five to three forty seven v C.

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<v Speaker 1>Bilbo Trucking Company. Okay, So the Bilbo Trucking Company stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I believe is evidence of Oswald's front jobs when he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to be working and having unemployment. He was

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<v Speaker 1>collecting a paycheck from Bilbo Trucking and he when he

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<v Speaker 1>went there, he went by the name Harvey. Remember the

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<v Speaker 1>guy we know is Lee Harvey Oswald who went to

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<v Speaker 1>jail on November twenty second, that's Harvey Oswald. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the real Lee Oswald who disappeared in nineteen fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So the Bilbo Trucking stuff very important. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are interested, go pull that. It's John Armstrong has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of information on it on his document site

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred. John C. Hureton h E U R T

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<v Speaker 1>I N William E. Miller VIC PISERA p I S

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<v Speaker 1>S E r A. I think that spelling's wrong. John

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<v Speaker 1>Shay sh e A. Harold Chromed cro m I it's

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<v Speaker 1>either two t's or two l's. But I never heard

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<v Speaker 1>the name Crommeller before. Henry Thompson, George Vath, John Wax,

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Yeager, Milton, Danner, Dick White, Ao Fonville, Hidell spelt wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>numerous first names Abner, Alberic, Albert J. Dominade, Antoine, Elvera,

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<v Speaker 1>Hazel L, judith A Lluella c Is, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>names with just an abbreviation Ronda, duh Rita, Roger J.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Hidell spelled hi A d e l L

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<v Speaker 1>and Hidell h y d e l L, and then

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<v Speaker 1>fair play for Cuba committee. Those all fall between pages

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<v Speaker 1>four fifteen and four thirty six, page four sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>four sixty two, Marcel Clark, Robert Oswald, Harold J. Stafford

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<v Speaker 1>for sixty six, Ed Turnley four seventy five to four

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, Missus Arden F. Gibbs, Missus Elva, Santoine, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Milton Santoine and from Motel a n f A Motel Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds interesting, Carlos Brenier, Evon Cooper, Norman Fetzer, someone

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<v Speaker 1>named Florence and quotes Missus Maud Forsyth, Florence Gleezer, g

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<v Speaker 1>L E A s E R. Gregory Grobka, g r

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<v Speaker 1>A b k A, doctor Forrest La Volette e J Leebhold.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have just a license number licensed b

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<v Speaker 1>L five five two five, New York. It's a license

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<v Speaker 1>plate Arthur W. Moehler, M O E L L E

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<v Speaker 1>R Anthony I Oswald O S S W A L

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<v Speaker 1>D Okay, So that Oswald the Oswald but two SS.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting story because at the exact same time

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<v Speaker 1>that Oswald was allegedly down in Mexico City, we all

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<v Speaker 1>know it was Kerrie Thornley. But when at the time

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<v Speaker 1>when Oswald was supposed to be down there, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>found another guy named Oswald Anthony Oswald I believe it was,

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<v Speaker 1>who was in naval intelligence and that weekend he was

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<v Speaker 1>sent down to Mexico to go hand out flyers on

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<v Speaker 1>college campuses. And his name is Oswald with two s's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's also an Oswaldo who was down there

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico City doing stuff at the exact same time, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the CIA plays their fucking games. They sent multiple

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<v Speaker 1>people named Oswald to go to fucking Mexico City except

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<v Speaker 1>for the real Oswald, which is hilarious. But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of Oswald names here, osswld Irene, Mary Anthony. They

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<v Speaker 1>did a whole background on the family Leonard Reisman, ri

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<v Speaker 1>E I S. S. M An Anthony Resca, Irene Resca

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack N. Rogers. That Jack Rogers name. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the deal is it. People try to say

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody named Jack Rogers was involved, like as the

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<v Speaker 1>short Tramp and all that's total bullshit, nonsense, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Commission Documents, seventy five continued Classified Pages five nine to

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<v Speaker 1>five nineteen. Edwin Schultz, ed Turnley, Cecilia twaro'z JD. Looks

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't see the first letter. I think it's JD. Vincent,

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<v Speaker 1>Missus Lee Williams, Henry Wonderlick, Page five forty five American Embassy, Moscow.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember these are all the classified pages that we haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 1>So why are why are all these names being associated

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<v Speaker 1>with a document that's classified? Right? So I remember American Embassy, Moscow,

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<v Speaker 1>Howard J. Herbert Clarence Johnson, June Lee Oswald, Marina Oswald,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Phillips, Mister Eugene Urban five seventy two to five

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four. Ken Diaz de Eas present, Vice President mid

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<v Speaker 1>South Press, Shreveport, Florence de Men Florence de menmm I

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<v Speaker 1>don't no, no, no, no, no there's nobody named de Men. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now it was making me think, well, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>offhand what was Jean de Manil's wife's name. Was it Florence?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. My brain isn't telling me that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not Florence, but I don't know offhand. And if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, whenever I seeing something like Demn, this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense to me. It makes more sense that

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<v Speaker 1>it's Demonil. But I'll have to do some looking into that.

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<v Speaker 1>George Henry, Domine Demn, Christine Steele, Eatman, Missus, Millie Kraft, Farrington, William,

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie Are that's a David Faerri's pilot friend, Arthur Crandall, Mason, Gordon,

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<v Speaker 1>Edward May, Missus, Lillian Stanton, Merrill, Missus, Judy, Marie North,

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Fillion. Yeah. You don't see these names come up

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else in the investigation, do you? But here they're

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<v Speaker 1>all classified interesting. Henry Lee seven five to seven oh six,

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Brenier, Fairplay for Cuba first named unknown, hidel International Trademark,

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Francis Martello, Jack Ruby, a Government of Samosa That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson's Restaurant and Tulane University UH seven oh seven unclassified

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<v Speaker 1>deals with FPCC literature found among Oswald's possessions at Ruth

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<v Speaker 1>Payne's house on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>to eight, seven oh nine. Christina Amore, Manuel Amore, Marvin Brown, Cia,

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<v Speaker 1>Lillian McFarland, Saint Petersburg Times, John Sider, Tampa Bay Chapter

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<v Speaker 1>of fair Play for Cuba Committee, Harold Wilson, probably all

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay FPCC stuff related, Vincent Lee et cetera. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four to seven thirty seven. These pages constitute the

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<v Speaker 1>appending to the document. There are no references to any

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<v Speaker 1>proper names in the index. They probably contain references to

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<v Speaker 1>the reliability of various FBI confidential informants, as in the

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<v Speaker 1>appendices to other FBI documents. There is some indication not

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<v Speaker 1>the list of names to be found on page five

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<v Speaker 1>seven two to five seven four are people who obtained

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican travel visas in New Orleans around the same time

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<v Speaker 1>as Oswald this is anyway true of Godday North and

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<v Speaker 1>Merrill and Maggie are and a few others who are

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned on other unclassified pages. Godday Pobox three sixty five, Waveland,

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<v Speaker 1>an employee of the CIA. There are a total of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixteen classified pages in this document, or

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<v Speaker 1>And that's from Tom Bethel, National Archives, Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>May twenty fourth, nineteen sixty seven. Some additional notes looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it's from the same document. This one' says National Archives.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. Rifle found on this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>list of various things. Rifle found on roof of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>school Book Depository see Volume fifteen, page five ninety testimony

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<v Speaker 1>of fair Waldo. According to Sprague, a sequence showing this

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<v Speaker 1>rifle being brought down from the roof of the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>school Book Depository is shown in the Dallas Cinema Associates

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<v Speaker 1>film of the assassination. Apparently it does not have a

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<v Speaker 1>telescopic site all right, So there's some contradictory information on

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<v Speaker 1>the rifle on the roof of the book depository tom Aleia,

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<v Speaker 1>who filmed the Ilia film. Obviously, he denies that he

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<v Speaker 1>filmed them coming off the roof, and he says there

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<v Speaker 1>was no rifle found on the roof. However, the rifle

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<v Speaker 1>appears in Gary Shaw's nineteen sixty seven book cover Up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the best early books on the assassination

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<v Speaker 1>because it points out all kinds of stuff that they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't figure out. How's the picture of Lawrence Howard, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican detained for not speaking English, the one that I

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<v Speaker 1>still can't fit into any kind of timeline. So let

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<v Speaker 1>me continue on parole of Lee Harvey Oswald. Joyce O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 1>Lillian Morett's daughter, went to see Oswald in jail and

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<v Speaker 1>then contacted a family friend, Emil Bruno, who operates the

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<v Speaker 1>B and W Package liquor store two seven one two

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<v Speaker 1>Canal Street, and mister Bruno contacted someone else who had

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<v Speaker 1>Oswald paroled. Right. That was all done through DUTs Moret's

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<v Speaker 1>buddy people trying to make a big dealer with the

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<v Speaker 1>of a big deal. Raymond Comstock FBI Report eleven twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three SA Regis Kennedy, Raymond Comstock, Investigator District Attorney's Office,

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<v Speaker 1>advised that Dean Andrews, attorney at law, had contacted him

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to identify Clay Bertrand. Comstock advised he was familiar

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<v Speaker 1>but has been unable to identify this individual. R M.

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<v Speaker 1>Regis Kennedy R. M. Davis, investigator for Dean Andrews, attorney

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<v Speaker 1>at law, Audubon Building, New Orleans, Louisiana, advised, upon the

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<v Speaker 1>instruction of his employer, Dean Andrews, he has made extensive

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<v Speaker 1>searches of the files of Andrews's office and has been

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<v Speaker 1>unable to locate any records of Clay Bertrand or a

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<v Speaker 1>record of Lee Harvey Oswald. He advised that he recalls

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<v Speaker 1>Oswald visiting Andrew's office. And Andrews had mentioned to him

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<v Speaker 1>that Oswald was desirous of obtaining a hearing on his

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<v Speaker 1>bad conduct discharge. From the US Marine Corps. Davis advised

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<v Speaker 1>he could not recall or identify any the individuals with

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<v Speaker 1>page one ninety five. An attorney contacted one Robert Heller,

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<v Speaker 1>now living in New York, to represent Oswald after his

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<v Speaker 1>arrest on Canal Street. Heller had witnessed the arrest CE

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty eight. Robert Heller. That's interesting. Who the Hell's

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Heller? More names on classified faery pages. The following

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<v Speaker 1>two names were omitted from my earlier list of proper

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<v Speaker 1>names mentioned on the forty classified faery pages. Harold Toole

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<v Speaker 1>tol E and Joseph Thompson. I think those names are

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<v Speaker 1>probably pretty important to look up. Henry Gagreave, owner Henry's

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<v Speaker 1>the early afternoon of November twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>two young people apparently man and wife and apparently cuban,

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<v Speaker 1>came into his store told him that Oswald was not

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<v Speaker 1>guilty and should not have been shot. They were apparently

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<v Speaker 1>friends or sympathizers of Oswalden, both about nineteen five foot

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten pounds Spanish accent from Tom Bethel

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<v Speaker 1>National Archives, May twenty fourth, sixty seven. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that we have a handwritten memo, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>dated September twenty fifth, sixty nine. EL are the initials

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<v Speaker 1>up top underlined. David W. Ferry joined EL four sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one Eastern Airlines. Okay, David Ferry joined Eastern Airlines

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<v Speaker 1>for sixteen fifty one, promoted to captain seven one fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven fifty one to fifty seven. That's a long time

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<v Speaker 1>he was at the Eastern Airlines A long time. Social

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<v Speaker 1>Security two eight two eighteen eight two one nine. Mailing

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<v Speaker 1>address seventeen three oh two Laverne Avenue, Cleveland, Mother missus

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<v Speaker 1>James Ferry dated birth twenty eighth of March nineteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty five, nineteen fifty Jeta Oil and Drilling. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can find no record of a Jeta Oil and

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<v Speaker 1>Drilling at all period. The address seven fourteen Swetland Street

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<v Speaker 1>is actually not Swetland Street, it's Swetland Building. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what street that's actually on. Somebody commented on exit

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<v Speaker 1>that's an actual building, but I couldn't find the actual road.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I did an extensive search for Jeta Oil

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<v Speaker 1>and Drilling doesn't exist, never existed. This is a time

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<v Speaker 1>when he would have been with well, let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>the post oss intelligence forces here in the US. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have been down in Tampa in forty nine. He

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<v Speaker 1>was seen at the airport in Venice with Clay Shaw

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<v Speaker 1>in forty seven. So yeah, that's Jeto Oil and Drilling

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<v Speaker 1>is CIA front time. As of fifty one, he had

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<v Speaker 1>flown in Canada and in Mexico. No military, no reserve.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been proven false. He was reserved during that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was supposed to be with the Jeda Oil

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<v Speaker 1>and Drilling company in elementary high school. We got all

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<v Speaker 1>those records. We've talked about that stuff before g ray

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<v Speaker 1>Gill was attorney References Discharge. Ferry says in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine he had been in giving talks on communism three

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<v Speaker 1>a week at the request of station managers in the Southwest,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly about communism, assisted with Cuban refugees from Red Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>July sixty one, I was advised I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>have my something pulled if I didn't layoff. August sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>landing charge The man really after me was a Richard Dowling,

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<v Speaker 1>suspended from flying nineteen sixty one. These are called quotes here.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I was getting too close to something and

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<v Speaker 1>my fangs were pulled something his talks to by Rickenbacher.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the quote I was never treated for mental problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote I'm a PhD from Italy, Catholic all his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote I understand two people were discharged from Eastern who

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<v Speaker 1>were communists classified four D on five twenty one forty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means. Classified four dash D

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<v Speaker 1>on five twenty one forty one. Saint Charles Seminary in

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio Ferry was Private E two in the US Army Reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>serial number one five two nine six four nine from

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<v Speaker 1>four thirteen fifty to four seventeen fifty three, received honorable discharge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, New Orleans Delegate two

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven Balter Building, New Orleans, eighteenth, July sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Eddie Rickenbacker, Chairman of the Board, Dear Captain Rickenbacker,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, the above organization is the Provisional Cuban Government.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the letter from our CONCA which we already

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<v Speaker 1>read through this. This is like a shorter version of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's handwritten. The last one was like multiple pages upon pages,

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<v Speaker 1>and here this one's only two paragraphs. And yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>has a bunch of dates listed here. August nineteen fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>FBI tips Customs that Ferry may be involved in gun running, wiretap.

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<v Speaker 1>July fifth, fifty one proposal to remove Ferry from Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines payroll based on the retail credit reports. He was not,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact removed. Huh. So they were onto Ferry being

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<v Speaker 1>shady right from the jump when they hired him at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time that he's in that's wild. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting hired by Eastern Airlines as a pilot at the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same time he spent three years in the reserves,

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<v Speaker 1>which are not reserves, are fake, they're intelligence covers. April eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty three. Looks like fa stone to Rickenbacker. Given

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<v Speaker 1>background in Ferry alludes to something trouble in Cleveland. Women trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it says, Women trouble in Cleveland. Before he

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<v Speaker 1>having nothing to do with women. March twenty third, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three Rickenbacker to fairy letter of I can't read that.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like ungraduation. But that's not right in his promotional work.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't read that in sw keep up to good work.

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<v Speaker 1>Note at the bottom, this man's efforts bear watching, and

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<v Speaker 1>his qualifications justify his being used and helpful whenever possible

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<v Speaker 1>line of duty and even beyond assigned. EVR. Phoenix University

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<v Speaker 1>has fake Francesco Amorey Dargona academic an academic mill. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>what it says, all right, and then the next page

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<v Speaker 1>has more handwritten notes on Ferry's got a face. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of his background is fake. Right. We know he went

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<v Speaker 1>to the seminary and all that stuff. But here it

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<v Speaker 1>says Saint Coleman grad School four years, Saint Patrick Grad

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<v Speaker 1>School three years, Saint Ignacious for four years, Baldwin Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>College for three years, Mary's Seminary in Cleveland nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight to nineteen forty, Baldwin Wallace College forty to forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>See this is all nonsense, Like he didn't go to

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<v Speaker 1>all these different schools. He went to Baldwin Wallace, he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Saint Charles, and I think that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Ignacius in High School, where Danny Green went to school.

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<v Speaker 1>It has pointed out that information had been received that

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry had promised Cruche a motorcycle for changing his testimony

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<v Speaker 1>and withdrawing his complaints. That is definitely true. See Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines was well aware of all this stuff. Airline Transport

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<v Speaker 1>pilot Something three three five eighty six, six seven, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven, March something, January nineteen forty nine. Subject has

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<v Speaker 1>been reported period at residence at three fourteen Zach Street, Tampa, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>He was reported married with two dependents Sunnyside Fly School. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so in forty nine he lived at Zach Street, Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>and he had two dependents, right, and then we find

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<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Airlines determined he's got David Ferry Junior kicking

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<v Speaker 1>around right. So this to me is very important stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>very important stuff. Fifteen days duty at Fort Campbell. Ferry

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with Paul Fournet. I think it's what it says. Lafayette, Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Martin's and Julian Buzzando in Miami. Fairy has stated

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<v Speaker 1>that he is sending Leyton Martin's to the Something jsw

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<v Speaker 1>something at Lafayette, Louisiana. Fairy is allegedly running and writer

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<v Speaker 1>Missus Martin's, who is separated from her husband and who

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<v Speaker 1>may be working as a waitress. At one time, Ferry

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<v Speaker 1>ran around with a Negro named Marcel, who worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a mechanic on his private airplane. Interesting, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>onto the System Board of Adjustment Eastern Airlines, Inc. Grievances

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<v Speaker 1>of Captain David Ferry Deposition of Layton Martin's taken July twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three, at New Orleans, Louisiana. So I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild that these guys got in all this legal

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<v Speaker 1>trouble and all this stuff. Really, for David Ferry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>stretched from like sixty all the way through like the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of sixty three, and like he didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple months break, and then he's back in

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<v Speaker 1>under the microscope for the Kennedy assassination. It's like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many warning signs. All right, doesn't say

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<v Speaker 1>who the interviewer is, but this is definitely in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to David Ferry's Eastern Airline stuff deposition for that. So

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. What is your name? Leyton P. Martin's.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your address? One point thirty six General Gardner, Lafayette, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you of legal age, sir? Yes, sir. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know Captain David Ferry? Yes, sir. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Civil Air Patrol? Yes? What squadron?

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<v Speaker 1>The New Orleans Cadet Squadron. Have you ever been a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Falcon Squadron? Yes? I have. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>hold me position of authority in the Falcons? Yes? I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you name that position and describe its duties? I

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<v Speaker 1>was the adjudant. I was responsible for all the paperwork, files, records, applications,

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00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 1>ID cards, the squadron paper and so on. Was the

403
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<v Speaker 1>Falcon Squadron part of the Louisiana Wing of the Civil

404
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Air Patrol? No, sir. Was it part of the national organization?

405
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 1>The Falcons were an entirely independent organization with its own existence,

406
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>its own rules, its own purpose, its own articles of incorporation,

407
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and its own activities with what organizations? Was it connected? None? State?

408
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 1>If you remember who were the incorporators of the Falcons,

409
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it was Dave Ferry, John Irian, Jim LewAllen and Ned Mendez.

410
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Were they members of the Falcons. Yes, they were seniors.

411
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>What is a senior? A senior is an adult member

412
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 1>over twenty one, under twenty one, we call them cadets.

413
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>We were cip ID cards or CIPID cards ever issued

414
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.559
<v Speaker 1>any members? Yes, as temporary ID cards until we decided

415
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to go independent. What happened to these temporary ID cards?

416
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 1>They were withdrawn or recalled and our own issued. Is

417
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>this such an ID card showing a blue card? Yes?

418
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 1>To whom was this card issued? John Espinin who wrote

419
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 1>the word temporary across the face? I don't recall. It

420
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 1>could be my handwriting, though, or Captain Ferries or the

421
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>first sergeants. Was a mister Espinon a member of the squadron. Yes,

422
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 1>here's a copy of his application for membership. He proffers

423
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>a paper to mister Gil, who has had a charge

424
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 1>of these files I have. Was mister espin In a

425
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:19.319
<v Speaker 1>senior or a cadet? This application is for Espinon's father,

426
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and he was a senior, and Johnny the son was

427
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a cadet. You say the Falcons were an independent organization.

428
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Was this generally known? Certainly? How do you know everybody

429
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>in the squadron knew it because we had meetings to

430
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 1>discuss our future status and what we wanted to do. Besides,

431
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I sent out a copy of the squadron paper to

432
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the mail. Did mister Espinon ever come and

433
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>pick up any papers or charter covering the falcons? Yes?

434
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>He did. When did that occur in August nineteen sixty one?

435
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 1>How can you be certain of the date it was?

436
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 1>At the time, Missus Landry was making it hot for everybody.

437
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I remember because he came to Captain Ferri's house. Captain

438
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Ferry was not home. His boy went in and got

439
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 1>the papers from Captain Ferry's desk. Was this a state charter? Yes?

440
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>It was. The squadrons in the year nineteen sixty You

441
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>belonged to the New Orleans Squadron Civil Air Patrol. Yes.

442
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Did that squadron have a summer encampment that year? Yes?

443
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Where was it held at? Keisler Air Force Base? Okay,

444
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>so let me just bause real quick. Keisler Air Force

445
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Base is in Biloxi, Mississippi, where Oswald went to a

446
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 1>bunch of his marine aircraft warning and control operator stuff. Right,

447
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that's one hell of a weird coincidence that the Civil

448
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Air Patrol from New Orleans. The state issued one. The

449
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Squadron went there in nineteen sixty. Now Oswald

450
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 1>was there in nineteen fifty seven, so this is years

451
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 1>before Oswald would have been there. Oswald was long gone

452
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:05.839
<v Speaker 1>by nineteen sixty. But it's interesting, right, It's interesting what

453
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was going on between the Civil Air Patrol and Kesler

454
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base, which is where they did all the

455
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 1>top secret stuff. All the stuff that they kept off

456
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 1>of your Marine duty roster is stuff they did at Keisler.

457
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>So there's an interesting connection there. I think that should

458
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 1>be explored. Who was in charge of that encampment, Colonel

459
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Samuel B. Davis? What position did Captain Ferry hold at

460
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 1>that encampment? He was commandant of cadets. What was the

461
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 1>chain of command at that encampment? In other words, starting

462
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 1>with Colonel Davis, how did the orders or commands come

463
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>down to the cadets By the chain of command, orders

464
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.119
<v Speaker 1>would originate with Colonel Davis and go through Captain Ferry

465
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and to the individual cadet commanders in charge of each

466
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 1>barrack of cadets, who was immediately over the cadets. Captain

467
00:34:54.119 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Ferry was a Lieutenant Colonel Christianaise in charge. No was

468
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 1>he there? Yes? In what capacity? Was he there as

469
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 1>a sort of advisor? He did not have any command function.

470
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Did any dispute rise at Keesler that involved Captain Ferry? Yes,

471
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 1>it did. What was the nature of that dispute? If

472
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you know to your knowledge, Well, every senior that showed

473
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>up thought he was a commander and started issuing orders.

474
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>The result was confusion. Every senior was contradicting everybody else.

475
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 1>The cadets then complained to Captain Ferry, who was immediately

476
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 1>above them. Captain Ferry said we should follow the chain

477
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 1>of command. And then some seniors went to Colonel Davis

478
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and he told them the same thing. So they went

479
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to Christiansen. All the seniors wanted to be chiefs and

480
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>nobody wanted to be indians. Where any decisions arrived at

481
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in this matter? Yes? What were those decisions? If you

482
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>know that a bunch of us quit and walked out,

483
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>why was that? Because we got disgusted with the Air Force.

484
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 1>They had preached military courtesy and discipline and chain of command,

485
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and Christiansen wanted to turn all this upside down. A

486
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of the fellows thought that something was along with

487
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>what the Air Force had told us about how they worked.

488
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>We could not see it was possible for Colonel Christensen

489
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.639
<v Speaker 1>to preach one thing and practice another. Did you know

490
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of these criminal charges against capt'n Fery? Yes? How do

491
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>you know of them? I was subpoenaed as a witness

492
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>at his trial. Did you know James Landry and Eric Crusche? Yes?

493
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I did see here it says James Landry, but it

494
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>was Al Landry in the other documents. To what did

495
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 1>you testify at the trial? I testified that since I

496
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>was a resident of capt'n Fairy's house, that I had

497
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>firsthand knowledge of the impossibility of these charges being true.

498
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>After all, I lived there, and if anyone would have known,

499
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I would have How'd you come to live at Captain

500
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Fairy's house? My mother and father separated and our home

501
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>broke up. My mother asked Captain Ferry and his mother

502
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>if I could stay with them, as I had no

503
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>place to go. Where was Fairey's mother should have been

504
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland at this time? Are you working at Southwestern? What

505
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.519
<v Speaker 1>activity has went on in the Falcon squadron? Captain Fairy

506
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 1>taught us reciprocal engines and had us overhaul a couple

507
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 1>under FA supervision. They were passed. We recovered an airplane

508
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and it passed. We did metal and it passed the FAA.

509
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>We also studied mathematics, aerodynamics, and physics. I learned geometry

510
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 1>in about three weeks this way. What was the object

511
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>or purpose of the squadron? Most of us wanted careers

512
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.079
<v Speaker 1>in aviation. Either we wanted to go to the Air

513
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Force Academy or aviation cadets, or in aeroscience. And we

514
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have a very good school system and this was

515
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the best way to get the things we needed and

516
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>did not know. Captain Fairy had helped four fellows into

517
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the Air Force Academy before we knew he could help us.

518
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>That was why we went to him and asked them

519
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 1>for him to form this squadron. All right, that document

520
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to an end right there? Know what do we

521
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 1>have next? Next? We have another It looks like an

522
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 1>arrest report New Orleans Police Department supplementary report contributing to

523
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the delinquency of a minor and intimidation August fifth, sixty

524
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>one to August sixteenth, sixty one. So this must be

525
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 1>the air cruchet stuff. Again. He was arrested charge in

526
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the fifth District. Here's the details. On Thursday morning, August

527
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth, nineteen sixty one, investigating officers received a phone

528
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>call from mister Alexander Landry, who stated that juvenile Michael

529
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Crusche had come to his residence on the night of Wednesday,

530
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>August twenty third, sixty one, told of being contacted by

531
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>David Ferry. The boy told mister Landry that Ferry was

532
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him Crushe to drop the charges. We

533
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>already know all this stuff. I think I'm gonna skip

534
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>over this document here in particular, I think we already

535
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>read this one. Basically, he went and tried to intimidate

536
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that kid, and then the kid ended up dropping all

537
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the charges. Let me see. At one oh five pm

538
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>August twenty fourth, sixty one, investigating officers received another call

539
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>from Cruche that David Ferry had come to see him again.

540
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Cruche stated the Ferry and another subject had just left

541
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>him and after getting angry after getting him asign another paper. Yeah,

542
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 1>we already read all this stuff. You can skip over

543
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>all this funny because he's like very adamant when he

544
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>talks to the cops about what David Ferry did. But

545
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>then when the charges move forward, he ends up dropping everything.

546
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was more scared of David Ferry than

547
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>he was of the of lyone of the cops. All right. Next,

548
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 1>we have a paper from Southern Research Company. Once we

549
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>finished this, we'll probably call it for the day four

550
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 1>forty two West Building, Houston, Texas, titled David William Ferry

551
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>aka David W. Ferry or Dave Character Investigation background synopsis.

552
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Subject arrested so O Jefferson Parish, Louisiana, eight eight sixty

553
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>one and three twenty two or A twenty two to

554
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty one, charged with carnal knowledge contributing to the delinquency

555
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of a juvenile and decent behavior, and crimes against nature.

556
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Charge is still pending, but dismissal anticipated. Subject arrested New

557
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Orleans PD two sixteen sixty two and charged relative to

558
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>extortion charge pending and New Orleans DA anticipates moving to trial.

559
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Retail Credit Bureau shows current residence for subject

560
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 1>at thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans, Louisiana.

561
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Two small accounts for collection two news clippings relative to

562
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 1>his arrests no other derogatory data. Subject employed as investigator

563
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 1>for local attorney who represents him on critical charges are

564
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>on criminal charges. Ferry owner of nineteen sixty Ford Tutor

565
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>sedan bearing nineteen sixty two Louisiana, registration three six zero

566
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>one cars being financed. Last payment on account was dated

567
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>nine twenty six sixty two, nineteen fifty nine. Ford found

568
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 1>registered to David W. Ferry, Junior, eleven Prospects Street, Alexandria, Louisiana,

569
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>but efforts to identify negative to date neighborhoods at past

570
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 1>residences of subject. Negative regarding knowledge of involvement in activities

571
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>of derogatory nature. Observation of subject after working hours eleven

572
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 1>nine ten and eleven sixty two reflects subject may still

573
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>be associating with youths involved in instant charges instant meeting

574
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 1>these charges. And then we get into let me see

575
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>what do we have here. We have a pretty lengthy

576
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 1>surveillance document. So we'll call here for today and we'll

577
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pick up with the surveillance document next time. And I

578
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>hope everybody had a good Christmas, happy New Year. If

579
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you haven't picked up my book yet, please go do so.

580
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Warning from History and Lee Harvey Oswald and Black and White.

581
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Lee Harvey Oswald, Black and Whit Volume two should be

582
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>out by February. I'm about fifty pages in and I'm

583
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna get cracking on it after the first of the year,

584
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's only gonna be about three to three hundred pages,

585
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 1>about the same as the last book, and so I

586
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 1>should be able to knock it out in those two months.

587
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm hoping to get that done because I

588
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 1>really want to get onto Oswald and Russia and I

589
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>don't like to jump ahead of myself. And so once

590
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that book's out, we're gonna spend probably like six months,

591
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>nine months or a year or something like that on

592
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Oswald's time in Russia because we're probably gonna end up

593
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>debunking the whole fucking thing, and fucking guy probably never

594
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>went to the Russia. Who fuck even knows anymore. So

595
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it for me. Guys. I'll be back

596
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 1>on Monday, and uh we will pick up here. Thank

597
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 1>you everybody.
