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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do this. Fred Rogan Jonas notching today

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<v Speaker 1>for Rodney on a five to seventy LA Sports Jonas.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, Hey so Fred?

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<v Speaker 1>All good, my friend worked with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, just getting ready for the real nitty gritty of

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodger season. Just looking around. Have you noticed, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I don't know what time you wake up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, but if you noticed in southern California,

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<v Speaker 2>we're starting to get that fall chill, all right, things

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<v Speaker 2>are starting to cool down just a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's getting dark out sooner. It does feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>are on the brink. We talked about this a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit on Friday of football right around the corner the

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<v Speaker 2>MLB postseason not far away. It feels like we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>into the good stuff of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred, What are you talking about? What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting cooler? How much cooler is it getting?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, man, Listen, I get up at one

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and I can tell you there's a

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<v Speaker 2>difference at one in the morning nowadays as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>like a month and a half ago, big difference really

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<v Speaker 2>onny football, Weather's right around the corner here, just like well, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't play football, one am Jonas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's an indicator that the day is getting colder. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you listening in the desert that are

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<v Speaker 2>probably sweating your balls off, going what the hell are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking? You know what I mean if you get

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<v Speaker 2>up at that time. Things are changing, Fred, The calendar

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<v Speaker 2>is changing and we are starting to get to I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>call it. We had week zero last weekend. College football

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<v Speaker 2>is right around the corner. We got the O's, we

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<v Speaker 2>got a match up against the Diamondbacks. The Snake's cut

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<v Speaker 2>your Serpiente's coming up soon for it. Like this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is the good stuff of the sports calendar year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we should all embrace it and stop

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<v Speaker 2>trying to push back against it and still maintain that no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no, it's the summer months maybe technically, but Autumn

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<v Speaker 2>is knocking on the door saying, come get some of

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<v Speaker 2>this smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, things are picking up, there's no question. Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the Orioles in town, and then they go

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<v Speaker 1>to Arizona to take on the Diamondback. So now this

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<v Speaker 1>is real. You know, they've got the slight lead. Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>They started the way they did. Arizona San Diego both

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<v Speaker 1>hot Orioles one of the best teams in the American

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<v Speaker 1>League so now, and Dave Roberts has been saying jonas

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<v Speaker 1>he's managing as if it's in the playoffs. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can look at these next seven games as playoff games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, because Arizona and San Diego are going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're just pulling wins out of there, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>left and right. The Padre went over the weekend where

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<v Speaker 2>they were losing to the Mets and then a two

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<v Speaker 2>run shot Jackson Merrill hits that home run to win

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<v Speaker 2>the game, like they're just they're winning games they shouldn't win.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's got a magical feel to it, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not the best thing in the world you want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear if you're a Dodgers fan. And then you get

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<v Speaker 2>the Orioles to come into town. And I would also

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<v Speaker 2>like to say, I sure hope that yesterday on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Vic the Brick got the respect and credibility that he

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<v Speaker 2>deserved because he did predict a forty to forty night

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<v Speaker 2>for Sho Heyo Tani last Friday, And I just hope

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<v Speaker 2>that that was acknowledged yesterday here on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he acknowledged it himself. I can handles

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<v Speaker 1>that himself. All right, there's no reason to have to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge anything Vic says it actually happens, because you will

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that. Yeah. On the other hand, there are things

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<v Speaker 1>he suggests that never occur and he doesn't mention those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's the way this works. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>he is sports talk radio through and through. When you

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<v Speaker 2>get it right, let everybody know. When you get it wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>you heard wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I never say dah, that's the move.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then nowadays, if you get sensitive, you just block

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<v Speaker 2>people on social media. That's that's also the move.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, never done it. Never blocked anybody on Twitter or

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<v Speaker 2>ex whatever you want to call it. Ever, once it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a waste of time, Like who cares like

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<v Speaker 2>so and so says you suck and you're this and

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<v Speaker 2>uses every name of the Okay, that's not a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>on me. I grew up listening to sports talk radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I can assure you never one time while I was

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<v Speaker 2>listening to sports talk radio was like, like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like what Steve Hartman just had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go ahead and let him know why I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's this, this, this and this, and how little

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<v Speaker 2>I think of his family. Never thought to it, never

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<v Speaker 2>thought to like hate email him or text him or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that or any of the ways you would

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<v Speaker 2>communicate back in the day. But apparently that's how they

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<v Speaker 2>do it nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, because everybody has a voice. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did this yesterday. I think it was during the

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock hour. There's a survey that came out about

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<v Speaker 1>how people view misinformation. People always hear now and believe

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they want to believe, even if you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a valid point that that's incorrect, that's wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're thinking something that is wrong, and let

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<v Speaker 1>me explain why and hear all the facts and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no denying. You cannot confuse it. What you think is

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<v Speaker 1>not factual. People, I don't care. That doesn't matter to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I think. I don't want to know

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<v Speaker 1>the facts. I don't want to know what's really going on.

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<v Speaker 1>All I want to do is think what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to think. It's confirmation by it. Yeah, that's the it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all it is, and they'll find it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what bothers me so much about some of the stats,

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<v Speaker 2>statistical categories and things like that, that people you can

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a statistic for anything, and like we're

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<v Speaker 2>jumping the shark nowadays when you're getting these stats of

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<v Speaker 2>like he's the first player ever to knock in two

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<v Speaker 2>runs in the same month that he also struck out

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<v Speaker 2>four times five of the last six games in a

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<v Speaker 2>month that his team had a four game lead in

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason with under thirty five games to go. Hold

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<v Speaker 2>on a second, he just drove in two runs. Can

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<v Speaker 2>we just leave it at that, Like that's all he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He drove in two runs. Like the other stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>goes along with it, We don't need any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But people try and justify whatever their preconceived opinion. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy could be batting eighty five, but you're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>any glimmer of hope so that you can dust off

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<v Speaker 2>the take that you had initially and just confirm that

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly how you feel about everything. Like there's too much,

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<v Speaker 2>too many statistics, too many things going on. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>get down to the bottom line. Wins and losses get

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<v Speaker 2>into the postseason and go from there. And it happens

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<v Speaker 2>in every single sport, not just baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does. Okay, so the Dodgers get the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>tonight as well. Begin this this seven days. H Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>have been on the On the other side, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were hot for a while. Yeah, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>think there are twenty games above five hundred, but the

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<v Speaker 1>last ten they haven't been world beaters, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>everybody cools off at some point. Dodgers, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>have been hot and playing very well, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>before the season started, and I can't remember who did it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we talked about it. You know. In one of

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason polls, it was suggested that the Dodgers and

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<v Speaker 1>Orioles would meet in the World Series, and according to that,

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<v Speaker 1>the Orioles are gonna win and beat the non Rusal.

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<v Speaker 1>So going into the season, these are considered to be

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<v Speaker 1>the two top teams, Dodgers and Orioles. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers chances, but I think it's really important now that

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<v Speaker 1>you keep in mind that these are all playoff games.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not regular season games. And for the whole

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<v Speaker 1>year I've said here and said, it's a regular season game.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares, it's one of one's sixty two. They're a

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<v Speaker 1>little bigger now than one of one's sixty two. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be in every game, You got to

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<v Speaker 1>play well in every game. You got to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to win every game, because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs will be like. So they get a little

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<v Speaker 1>taste of it earlier this year. Interesting about the Orioles.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for a good few seasons they were terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>they were awful, But what were they doing. They told everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to rebuild this thing, and they rebuilt it.

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<v Speaker 1>Young players, a lot of homegrown players, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to be around for a while now.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way their's success rate on their homegrown players,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of similar to the Dodgers a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>where everybody they brought up played well, like everybody had

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<v Speaker 2>an impact, and it's like, dude, who's running their farm system?

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<v Speaker 2>Like all these guys that were picked up in trades

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<v Speaker 2>to your point, when they were like, listen, you can

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<v Speaker 2>have them, you can have them. We're not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going anywhere. They just kept acquiring all these prospects,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're bringing these guys up and they've all delivered,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've completely turned around their organization. They were the

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<v Speaker 2>laughing stock of the league. Like, they completely turned around

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<v Speaker 2>their organization just by adding all that young talent. And

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<v Speaker 2>now they find themselves in a spot to where they're

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<v Speaker 2>challenging the Yankees for the Al East. They're in consideration

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<v Speaker 2>with one of those teams that's looked at is Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be a shock if they weren't a World

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<v Speaker 2>Series and people are, you know, like you said, projecting

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<v Speaker 2>them against the Dodgers. By the way, I want to say, God,

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<v Speaker 2>who the hell was that? Because it was on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't it that somebody talked about Dodgers Orioles because I

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<v Speaker 2>remember that being a pick, and I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>who it was. It was it Vassa, No, not Vassa.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was vass I think Vassi.

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<v Speaker 2>Had the Dodgers versus the Dodgers in the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not mistaken, Like, yeah, I'm trying to think, God,

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<v Speaker 2>who was it? But yeah, to your point, they've landed

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<v Speaker 2>on all their prospects. They've done a marvelous job just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of building the team up and getting the team

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<v Speaker 2>and getting those guys acclimated to the big leagues and

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<v Speaker 2>just throwing them out there and being like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>go figure it out. And they've all done it. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Flaerty will go for the Dodgers tonight. Okay, well, now,

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<v Speaker 1>now this is one of the reasons they went out

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<v Speaker 1>and got him for games like this, for series like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember he did play with the Orioles last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then got traded Towe the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he was not good with the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the bad stuff, Like why do you have

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<v Speaker 2>to bring up all the negative stuff with people? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>says focus on the one. What's happening now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what I'm going to say. He was not

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<v Speaker 1>very good last year with the Orioles, but he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be having a career year this year. He stayed

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<v Speaker 1>tonight for him as well. You know what years ago

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<v Speaker 1>apart in the World Series. That's the only reason they

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on a second, like, upon further review, like shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you also put that one back in the holster and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, listen, now that we know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Not in games, Sven at Dodger Stadium, I can't buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>can't buy it. That's why they signed him. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason you're here. And they lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the one people give him a hard time for.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not willing to cut him any slack for

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<v Speaker 2>that game. You don't think there was any cheating going on.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at Dodger Stadium. I don't. Game was over

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<v Speaker 1>three batters into the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But you know this about Dodger Stadium that in

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<v Speaker 2>big games and in big moments, that place turns into

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<v Speaker 2>a morgue. It just does. People are nervous, people are

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<v Speaker 1>There just is no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you got you got him in the first inning. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>fired up. Not a Morgue. It was in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>But nerves, but nerves everybody like, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>this loud, drown out effect that normal playoff atmospheres would

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<v Speaker 2>be at home. I think there was an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>the Astros to cheat there and they probably did it

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<v Speaker 2>there were well too. If they were having success with

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<v Speaker 2>it at home, why wouldn't they bring that show on

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<v Speaker 2>the road. It's game seven, Like you bring out all

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<v Speaker 2>the stops, all hands on deck, including the trash can

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<v Speaker 2>lids next to the guy who's uh you know, put

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<v Speaker 2>filling up the big league chew bucket next to the

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<v Speaker 2>sunflower seeds. I'm telling you, man, they were. They were

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<v Speaker 2>cheating Game seven as well too. We need confirmation from vass.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well we'll ask him. We'll ask him when

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<v Speaker 1>he comes on here. He'll be on in what ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll ask him then. But that's why Jack Flerty

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<v Speaker 1>And in my mind, he's a professional athlete. Anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pitcher. He doesn't get a lot of oops.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he's here. Now, this is why you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>They expect you to win. They expect you to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them in the game. That's what they expect out of you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus he got a little bit of a red ass too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if somebody gets upset that he comes inside on

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<v Speaker 2>a pitch, like he's willing to let him know, like listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not messing around here, like we don't play those

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<v Speaker 2>games over here, you know. Plus you know he knows

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<v Speaker 2>What here's the part that's so nerve racking about all this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cool. You could go two of three, you could

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<v Speaker 2>win two of three, you know, the the the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 2>and Mets series could go similar and then like all

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<v Speaker 2>of this will be canceled out because they're playing each other,

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<v Speaker 2>like right after this, I just like this is all cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But like that time where they let the lead drop

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<v Speaker 2>from what nine games all the way down to two

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, it was like, we're gonna look back on

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<v Speaker 2>that and go, that was a real opportunity to try

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<v Speaker 2>and play it safe, you know the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're gonna be everybody's awareness is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be heightened because you've opened up the door to where

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<v Speaker 2>in matchups down the stretch against these two teams San

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<v Speaker 2>Diego and Arizona, there's an opportunity for them to get

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<v Speaker 2>back in the race if they have a strong outing

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<v Speaker 2>against the Dodgers. Like, I mean, that's why that stretch,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like everyone say I'll relax, like and I

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those people. But now you look at

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<v Speaker 2>it and you go, man, they're winning. They're going five

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<v Speaker 2>of six, et cetera, et cetera. And then you go

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<v Speaker 2>and the lead's still only three and still only four

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<v Speaker 2>against Arizona. Problematic but fun. I mean it is fun.

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<v Speaker 2>At least they're getting more acclimated to the postseason what

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be like coming up down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think again Flaherty on the Hill tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep them in the game. You gotta keep them in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then those at bats become very precious. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we're going to see a lot of twelve

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<v Speaker 1>two games in October. I don't think we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we see one run games, two run games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Dodgers, now, these games are and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>way Ned Colletti has always said they play. They grind you,

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<v Speaker 1>and they grind you, and they grind you. They wait

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<v Speaker 1>for you to make a mistake, they wait for your

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen to come in. They'll just sit there with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then by attrition, they'll figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 1>win it. That's what Ned Colletti says about the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we're gonna start seeing it now. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean against Seattle. You know, those games were close, those

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<v Speaker 1>games were tight. Somehow they won even though Tani hits

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<v Speaker 1>the walk off Grand Slam, they were behind, they won.

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<v Speaker 1>They figured out a way to win. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's something to that. I think it builds. It builds momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>They know they can do it, they know they're never

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<v Speaker 1>out of it because they are now doing it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a critical part of what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you rather have this or would you rather have

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<v Speaker 2>comfort not having to worry about it? Just cruise right

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<v Speaker 2>into the post season and then let's just because we're

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<v Speaker 2>the best team, We'll just you know, take our chances,

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<v Speaker 2>roll out the best lineup on the field, and then

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<v Speaker 2>just go from there. Like, would you rather have this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because me personally and you made the point on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen what the other version looks like, where they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a comfortable lead, they cruise into the postseason, and

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<v Speaker 2>next thing you know, they're getting lit up at Dodger

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<v Speaker 2>Stadium and people like what happened here? Like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And I do wonder if there is something about them

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<v Speaker 2>having to go through because it's not even just the

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<v Speaker 2>downward slide that they took and the slump they went

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody goes through slumps. It's all the other stuff

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<v Speaker 2>off the field. Everything you could possibly imagine going wrong

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<v Speaker 2>has gone wrong. It's almost like you've got a deck

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<v Speaker 2>of cards and you pull something up and go, will

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<v Speaker 2>this happen? It's like a no, na, na No. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think you're gonna start the season over in

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<v Speaker 2>Japan and have to come back after a break and

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<v Speaker 2>still go back to training spring training. Okay, yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>put that card over there, all right. What about somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>interpreter stealing millions of dollars from and being a gambling junkie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no possible, no, no, no, you got that too. Mookie

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<v Speaker 2>Bett's being injured all the other injuries that came along

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<v Speaker 2>with it. David vasse calling into question Maximuntsey's toughness. The

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<v Speaker 2>other drama that's gone on with the team, trades, bad breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy John surgeries, you know, rehab assignments, going back to

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<v Speaker 2>the miners to try and figure out why your pitch

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<v Speaker 2>isn't working anymore if you're Walker, like, all these things

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<v Speaker 2>that have happened has only built them up for this

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<v Speaker 2>moment and the steadying ship the entire time. Dave Roberts,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that you wanted fired, neverlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Never said that, never said that. No, we have people

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<v Speaker 1>that call all the time and say that, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>never said that. Yeah, it has been really a very

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<v Speaker 1>rocky road. Do I want comfort. I don't want as

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<v Speaker 1>much comfort as they had in the past, because again

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<v Speaker 1>we know what happens. Then. Do I like it quite

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<v Speaker 1>this type? Probably not, But I think it suits them better.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it does a better job of preparing them

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<v Speaker 1>for what is to come. I mean, look, last year

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<v Speaker 1>they came out, they they seem so disinterested and flat.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, what happened? What happened? It went against

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego the year before? What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean last year, I mean, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened last year. I think we're we've all

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<v Speaker 2>figured it out. Like they were, well, they were a

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<v Speaker 2>little distraught. I mean, you know, it's like you're celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>here locally, you know, doing sports here for over forty years,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet you know, for whatever reason, you've got this

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<v Speaker 2>soft spot in your heart for the Serpientes, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think they just look at it and go like, what

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<v Speaker 2>do we got to do to get Fred on our side? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how can we get him on our team so that

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<v Speaker 2>that way, next time we run into a big matchup

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<v Speaker 2>which Lo and Behold just a few days away, next

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<v Speaker 2>time we run into a big matchup with playoff implications

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<v Speaker 2>on the line involving us in the Serpientes, he'll root

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<v Speaker 2>for us and not for Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>I did never rooted for the Serpientes, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>tell you they were pretty good, and they were good,

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<v Speaker 1>So I only spoke the truth. Just because I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you they're good doesn't mean I'm rooting for him. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were good, and we saw what happen, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good this year too. You do's having a great year.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, By the way, just as the game changed, it

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<v Speaker 2>just slowly started to shape around him. Yes, so listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not really that concerned with batting average. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>hit home runs? Yes? Cool, You'll be playing to you

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<v Speaker 2>forty years old. Like it's literally just like he just

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<v Speaker 2>out there hitting bombs man, and like wherever he's gone,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he wouldn't won a World Series in Atlanta, he

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Giants, spent a cup of coffee with

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<v Speaker 2>the Cubs before the Atlanta finished that year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's with Arizona like just slowly found himself, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, he's also I wonder, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's still playing fantasy football, but based on

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<v Speaker 2>what happened between him and Tommy Fam, he's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more focused on baseball now, you think so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe because it is fantasy football draft season, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people out there that are really really

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what they're going to do this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if he and Fam are in

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<v Speaker 1>the same league anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Would I would imagine not? I would say probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, listen, he's with Arizona and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get set for a big matchup against his ex

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<v Speaker 1>Fred, all right, let's bring David Vassay on next as

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<v Speaker 1>a Dodgers get ready for this big series against the Orioles.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonas Naucchin today for Rodney Dodgers tonight, first of three

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<v Speaker 1>against the Orioles. That it's off to Arizona. David Vassaying

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<v Speaker 1>is going to join the show, Dave. Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so now it's real time, Fred, I am joining

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure if you were there or not. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of why I couched that. Well, Dave is going

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<v Speaker 1>to join the show, Dave. So these seven games, now

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<v Speaker 1>we have a playoff atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>Agree, Oh yeah, without a doubt. Even Dave Roberts said

417
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<v Speaker 3>two weeks ago that he's in playoff managing modes. So

418
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<v Speaker 3>this is coming down, in my opinion, to the final

419
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<v Speaker 3>ten games of the season. The Diamondbacks are not going anywhere.

420
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<v Speaker 3>The Padres are not going anywhere. But I still still

421
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<v Speaker 3>firmly believe the Dodgers are going to win this division

422
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<v Speaker 3>between three and five games. It's not going to be

423
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<v Speaker 3>the customary ten fifteen game blowout season. This will be

424
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<v Speaker 3>in the category of twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one

425
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.440
<v Speaker 3>where a division team pushed them to the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there another team out there? Just I mean, we're

427
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<v Speaker 2>focused on the Diamondbacks and the Padres, who are three

428
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<v Speaker 2>and from Rodney.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Your voice is so different today.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that.

431
00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.160
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a surfer from Thousand Oaks?

432
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<v Speaker 2>It certainly does a lot of waves out here. But

433
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<v Speaker 2>that being said with outside of the Padres and the Diamondbacks,

434
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<v Speaker 2>is there also maybe another team as we get closer

435
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<v Speaker 2>to the postseason that you look at and go, man,

436
00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people aren't talking about them. That could

437
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<v Speaker 2>be an issue as well too for the Dodgers in

438
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<v Speaker 2>the postseason.

439
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<v Speaker 3>No, I feel like the National League is pretty clear, Jonas,

440
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<v Speaker 3>It's the Diamondbacks, it's the Padres and me personally, and

441
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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stick with it. I felt like it

442
00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:27.480
<v Speaker 3>was going to be a Dodgers Phillies NLCS to me.

443
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<v Speaker 3>The Brewers just don't have enough. They're in a horrible division.

444
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure whether or not they're that good

445
00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.440
<v Speaker 3>or the rest of the division is that bad. But

446
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<v Speaker 3>they're honestly doing something right over there, or they wouldn't

447
00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.519
<v Speaker 3>be as far ahead as they are. They actually have

448
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<v Speaker 3>the largest Division lead in baseball in the NL Central.

449
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<v Speaker 3>But look, the Braves could get hot, they could get

450
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<v Speaker 3>their pitching healthy, and they're probably going to be the

451
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<v Speaker 3>wildcard team. They could be one of those teams that

452
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<v Speaker 3>gets hot at the right time like they did in

453
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<v Speaker 3>twenty one. But I still don't see anybody outside of

454
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<v Speaker 3>Arizona or the Dodgers advancing to play the Phillies.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Dave Evan Phillips seems like he's back in now, So

456
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<v Speaker 1>where does he fit in in a bullpen?

457
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, Dave Roberts is starting to use him

458
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<v Speaker 3>again at the back end of games in high leverage situations.

459
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<v Speaker 3>It just seems like the Dodgers could simplify a lot

460
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<v Speaker 3>by just having Michael Kopek be their closer. He's got

461
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<v Speaker 3>a great arm. He's a shutdown type of arm, throwing

462
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<v Speaker 3>ninety six to one hundred on certain nights. I would

463
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<v Speaker 3>hope that by the end of the regular season he

464
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<v Speaker 3>is up to speed as far as being used as

465
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<v Speaker 3>many times as he is being used with the Dodgers,

466
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<v Speaker 3>with them actually winning games, that he will get used

467
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<v Speaker 3>to the regularity that they are going to lean on

468
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<v Speaker 3>him because he's that type of arm to be a closer,

469
00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 3>and Evan Phillips was always better served to be that

470
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<v Speaker 3>guy to put out fires in the seventh inning or

471
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<v Speaker 3>the eighth inning, or even sometimes in the sixth inning.

472
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<v Speaker 3>So hopefully it goes back to that, and hopefully Copeck

473
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<v Speaker 3>really embraces being the closer.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's something that Roberts is open to

475
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<v Speaker 2>or is he fixated on No, Listen, I want to

476
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<v Speaker 2>go with Evan Phillips. I'm more familiar with him. Do

477
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<v Speaker 2>you think that Kopec would be a solution that he

478
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<v Speaker 2>would look at and go, I know he hasn't been

479
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<v Speaker 2>here for the long haul, but this is somebody that

480
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<v Speaker 2>I want to be my guy in the back end

481
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<v Speaker 2>in high leverage situations.

482
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure he does. But you know Dave is

483
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<v Speaker 3>not the only one making decisions as far as how

484
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<v Speaker 3>to deploy these relievers before a game.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Then, gotcha.

486
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<v Speaker 3>I know analytics look at the numbers and the groupings

487
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 3>of hitters and the handedness right or left, But the

488
00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:57.559
<v Speaker 3>ninth inning isn't for everybody, and I feel like the

489
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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers are still feeling out whether or not the ainh

490
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<v Speaker 3>thinning is for Michael Kopek. But he certainly has the stuff.

491
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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like between now and the end of

492
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<v Speaker 3>the year, you're obviously going to see Copeck close games,

493
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:11.680
<v Speaker 3>and the Dodgers if they like what they see and

494
00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.079
<v Speaker 3>they believe he can do it on a regular basis,

495
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 3>they have one of the more dominant right handed relievers

496
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<v Speaker 3>in the National League.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Dave Flaherty goes tonight for the Dodgers. I was

498
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<v Speaker 1>telling Jonas earlier, these are the kind of games, These

499
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<v Speaker 1>are the situations why he was traded for. Right here,

500
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>right now, this is it? What are you laughing about it?

501
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<v Speaker 3>Fred? I guess he was traded for to do it

502
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 3>in the playoffs more than yeah.

503
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<v Speaker 1>But I mean this is kind of a lad off.

504
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<v Speaker 3>The atmosphere, it is, Fred. But even if they lose,

505
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<v Speaker 3>tonight is a do or die.

506
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<v Speaker 1>No, but it is. He needs a good outing, is

507
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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

508
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.799
<v Speaker 3>He can't go off get she need a good outing.

509
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<v Speaker 3>I think he's had a few already.

510
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<v Speaker 1>Well, but now, yeah, but now it's Baltimore, it's not Oakland.

511
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are important games, Dave. I think now

512
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<v Speaker 1>he's really got to perform.

513
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<v Speaker 3>Actually, Fred, I actually believe what you're describing is tomorrow

514
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:08.119
<v Speaker 3>starter Walker Buehler. Walker Buehler needs a good start to

515
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:12.559
<v Speaker 3>prove that he's actually back, because against the Mariners he

516
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 3>was better, but they're one of the worst hitting teams

517
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.160
<v Speaker 3>in baseball. So I feel like everything that you were

518
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.680
<v Speaker 3>saying is for Jack Flerity tonight is actually for Walker

519
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:22.559
<v Speaker 3>Buehler tomorrow.

520
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>All right.

521
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<v Speaker 2>So since we're on the topic, we kind of veered

522
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<v Speaker 2>off into a discussion about the Astros and the cheating

523
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 2>back in twenty seventeen because Fred made the comparison that,

524
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jack Flaherty, similar to you, Darvish, You're brought

525
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>here for these moments you need to deliver. And I said, well,

526
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<v Speaker 2>you know, based on what we know about that World

527
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Series now, it kind of looks a little bit different

528
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<v Speaker 2>than initially you Darvis just turned into a gas can

529
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<v Speaker 2>at Dodger Stadium in Game seven. Fred is convinced there

530
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<v Speaker 2>was no cheating going on in Game seven, though he

531
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<v Speaker 2>said didn't happen at Dodger Stadium, So he's not willing

532
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<v Speaker 2>to cut you, Darvish, any slack. You were there. Do

533
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<v Speaker 2>you buy that or do you think Houston brought those

534
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<v Speaker 2>gimmicks to Dodger Stadium for the biggest game of the year.

535
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<v Speaker 3>No, it's never been proven they were able to pull

536
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<v Speaker 3>off what they did at home on the road. What

537
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you is going back to when Darvish

538
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 3>was with the Rangers, the Astros just saw the ball

539
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 3>coming out of his hand really well, no matter where

540
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 3>it was, and maybe he was tipping in the traditional

541
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.160
<v Speaker 3>sense where they saw something, but it had nothing to

542
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<v Speaker 3>do with the trash cans at Dodger Stadium.

543
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you're right, Fred, Congratulations, you got it.

544
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<v Speaker 1>I got one. Thanks, thanks joting us. I'll take one.

545
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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, here behind the scenes, there were signs

546
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 3>from you Darvish that he wasn't up to the task

547
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:46.039
<v Speaker 3>and the Dodgers probably should have been on red alert

548
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 3>from the first inning on and not let it get

549
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 3>to five nothing by the second inning?

550
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Are you saying before the game early?

551
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<v Speaker 3>And that's in my documentary?

552
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>All come on, Like, yeah, it was a little teaser,

553
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a preview day, Like you don't

554
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<v Speaker 2>have to say.

555
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.279
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about twenty twenty four. What's the point

556
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 3>of going back to that.

557
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's salacious, you know, like it's a scandal,

558
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like this is what this like? We love this stuff.

559
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>So can you. You don't have to say who told

560
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you all this?

561
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 3>The archives. You will hear me before Game seven say

562
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Alex Wood should be starting that game because the Astros

563
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 3>just never saw the ball coming out of his hand.

564
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 3>He was the only Dodger pitcher that was tenacious enough

565
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 3>to change his signs on every single batter. And that's

566
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>the reason why he was the only one to win

567
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 3>in Houston during the World Series. And they just had

568
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 3>no answer for Alex Wood. You could have had Alex

569
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Wood then Clayton Kershaw behind him, who was absolutely dominant

570
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 3>after the game was out of hand.

571
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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you I want to see that documentary now.

572
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Fred, he.

573
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Lays it out. He spits the truth. Yeah, he does, Dave.

574
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<v Speaker 1>When you see the Orioles and what they went through

575
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 1>to get to where they're at. All they've got young guys,

576
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them homegrown. They went through a tough time.

577
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Now they're very good. Is that a team you think

578
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>that that'll be pretty good for a.

579
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<v Speaker 3>While now, Arizona, Fred Orioles, Oh, I'm sorry, I thought

580
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 3>you said Arizona.

581
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<v Speaker 1>Arizona.

582
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Baltimore is here to stay. They're really good. What

583
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 3>I've been hearing from the East coast. Is they really

584
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 3>botch their trade deadline? They traded for Zach Efflyin's who's

585
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>on the IL now. They traded for the Marlins, a

586
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 3>right hander that is in the minor leagues, or left

587
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 3>handed Trevor Rodgers who's in the minor leagues now. So

588
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>they really needed pitching at the trade deadline, and they

589
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 3>really messed it up. And now Austin Hayes, the outfielder

590
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 3>they traded for, I mean, he's playing well in Philadelphia

591
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>or they send the Philadelphia he's playing well. So they're

592
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>five hundred since the All Star break and they're pitching

593
00:28:59.240 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 3>is very suss.

594
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<v Speaker 2>Dave, do you take any credit for lighting a fire

595
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 2>under Max Munsey and getting him to return in the

596
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 2>way that he did, because it was on this show

597
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that you sort of called into question, like what's taken

598
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 2>so long, let's get this going. Is this a pain

599
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>tolerance issue? And yet here he is and he's back,

600
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 2>and he's back with a vengeance.

601
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like I think everybody should take some

602
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>credit for that. Right. He said it was some chiropractic

603
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>adjustment where it was one of his lower ribs that

604
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 3>was not allowing him to get over the hump. It

605
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 3>was a miracle it happened when it did. But hope

606
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>happily for the Dodgers it happened, and he hasn't missed

607
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.759
<v Speaker 3>a beat. I mean, how do you explain a guy

608
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 3>not playing since May saying before his first game back,

609
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 3>missing three months is like three years. And he comes

610
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 3>back and has that series against the Mariners and also

611
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 3>had a great a bat ahead of Otani's Grand Slam

612
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>the other night. So yeah, he's Max Munsey again, which

613
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>is great for the Dodgers.

614
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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, Dave, you're always great for us. We

615
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.

616
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<v Speaker 3>Coming on, I'll try to be better next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred, No, you were good today. I don't know if

618
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna.

619
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<v Speaker 3>Approve much more appreciate it. You're okay? Thanks?

620
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<v Speaker 1>Thanks?

621
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Dave?

622
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, David Matsy and you'll hear the game here tonight.

623
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<v Speaker 1>What what?

624
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>He's so much fun because you just never know, there's

625
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>there's at least one question in every interview that'll like

626
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 2>set him off and kind of get his smart assness

627
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to get to another level. And so, like I thought,

628
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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty much a hey, these are the moments

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Flaherty was brought in for you know, we're what

630
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<v Speaker 2>thirty games left in the season. You know, they've got

631
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<v Speaker 2>to maintain this lead. There's a big series coming up,

632
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<v Speaker 2>and that was the one that he chose. No, I

633
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<v Speaker 2>think I'll take that one, and I'm gonna go ahead

634
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<v Speaker 2>and take that one and try and drive Fred straight

635
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<v Speaker 2>into a ditch. It's just I mean, he's really great

636
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<v Speaker 2>at it, Like it really is fun to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, it always depends on how he's

638
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<v Speaker 1>feeling that day. First, he knows more than anybody. He

639
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<v Speaker 1>really is the best at what he does. Yes, And

640
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a listener, you go, oh, that's just

641
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<v Speaker 1>saying what he does. No, he's really good. He is

642
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 1>now he can be a pain of hand. He was

643
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>really good.

644
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 2>And I listen, I know it's going back to twenty seventeen,

645
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<v Speaker 2>but I am curious to wonder if you watching on

646
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>that one, well, because what what was it pre game

647
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>that people saw that were like us not up for this?

648
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, was he like blowing chunks in a trash

649
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<v Speaker 2>can somewhere because he was so nervous about the start? Like,

650
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 2>what was it about that and what happened before that game.

651
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>That would be an indicator that he's not the guy

652
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 2>that should be sent out there, like I just wonder,

653
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<v Speaker 2>you know, and we ge apparently we got to wait

654
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<v Speaker 2>for the documentary.

655
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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised. I thought he'd give you a little

656
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<v Speaker 1>bit on that. I thought he, you know, he opened

657
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the door, but then nothing.

658
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got to play the game, man, like

659
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you got to, you know, but and eventually

660
00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you would like some answers, Like I don't know if

661
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 2>you've seen the Steve McNair documentary on Netflix, I've not,

662
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 2>all right, so if you were looking for answers, don't

663
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 2>even bother. Like it's just basically a recap of everything

664
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.839
<v Speaker 2>that everybody already know and the relationships and all this

665
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and the shoddy detective work and everything else. It's like,

666
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>all right, any new arrests, Nope, And it's been fifteen years. Cool.

667
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>So that was a nice fifty nine minute documentary for

668
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 2>no reason whatsoever. So I'm just hoping if Dave does

669
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<v Speaker 2>put out this documentary, at least we get some answers.

670
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<v Speaker 1>All right, Look, we've got NFL news to talk about,

671
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and the most important news though, a big deal was

672
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>signed today we'll get to that. Someone is back. We'll

673
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 1>get to that, and we'll tell you how you can

674
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<v Speaker 1>own an NFL team. All that coming up. Jonas Knoxen

675
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<v Speaker 1>today for Rodney Our thanks to David Vassa for jumping

676
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<v Speaker 1>on the show. All right, so you know, the Rams

677
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 1>are trying to move Ernest Jones. He asked for trade.

678
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>They had conversations, they tried to figure it out, they

679
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 1>tried to work it out, and they have done it.

680
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>The Titans will get Ernest Jones and a twenty twenty

681
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>six to sixth rounder. The Rams receive a twenty twenty

682
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 1>sixth fifth rounder. Jones gets his wish.

683
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Wheeling and dealing, getting it done before the season. I mean,

684
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>this is really like, you know, is this really gonna

685
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>be the make or break of whether or not the

686
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Rams take a run in that division? You know, Like.

687
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that's so funny to me when we

688
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about the NFL, because now it's real, Okay, the

689
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 1>games will start and everything will be fine. But during

690
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 1>the preseason, this kind of thing, what's going to happen now,

691
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, I don't think that's going to determine anything.

692
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, I don't either.

693
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Nothing, but that's the deal they wanted. He wanted to go,

694
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and they facilitated it. They get a fifth round pick,

695
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they had to give up a sixth round pick, and

696
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>him it's sad to add something, Yeah, sness, he would

697
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<v Speaker 1>take them.

698
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>And there's this whole like draft chart, which I think

699
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Johnson came out with. So when you see these

700
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 2>deals that are done during the draft, and it's like, well,

701
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 2>so and so is getting a third round pick, but

702
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>they've got to give up a fourth and a fifth

703
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and all, like there's like an equation that's done to

704
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 2>where they've got the value of draft picks slotted in

705
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>a way in which trading this one everybody knows is

706
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>equal to this. And it's like, why can't you just

707
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.719
<v Speaker 2>do the deal? If you look at a player and

708
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you go, if he's still available, can I just overpay

709
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 2>to get him? And it's like you've got to follow

710
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>this draft chart. It's very confusing. The whole thing's weird.

711
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Bottom line is it's the NFL. Do you have a

712
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.079
<v Speaker 2>starting quarterback that can WINNI games? If you do, you're

713
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:47.920
<v Speaker 2>off to a good start and then you just go

714
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>from there. And in that division, look talked about it

715
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 2>last week, talked about it before. Super Bowl hangovers are real,

716
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and people can try and to diminish that and dismiss

717
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>it all they want, but super Bowl hangovers are real.

718
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 2>The Niners are going to naturally take a step back,

719
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 2>most likely because outside of Kansas City and New England,

720
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 2>most likely they're going to take a step back. And

721
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>the most logical team to step up and win that

722
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>division if it's not the Niners, is the Rams. Arizona's

723
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>still coming back, Kyler Murray's coming back from injury. They're

724
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 2>a young team trying to ascend and turn around their organization,

725
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and we have no idea what to expect from Seattle.

726
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>So there's an opportunity for the Rams.

727
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'll be honest with you, even if the

728
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers were not about to take a step back,

729
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>if Stafford's healthy, I think the Rams are as good

730
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 1>as a forty nine ers period. I mean I do.

731
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>If they could just avoid having to play the forty

732
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>nine ers, like that would be I mean, that'd be

733
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>great for everybody. Like if they could just avoid having

734
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>to run into Kyle Shanahan, who has just owned them

735
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>for all this time, Like that would be. That would

736
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>be something for everybody outside of the NFC title game,

737
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 2>which you know some would say Jimmy Garoppolo gave up,

738
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>So there is that.

739
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So anyway, the Rams have made their move and

740
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>they're fine. Here's something that's interesting in the NFL. You know,

741
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>teams are owned by individuals, families or individuals. Corporations don't

742
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>buy teams. For example, in Major League Baseball, Googenheim owns

743
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers. Yeah, but the NFL has always kept it

744
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>we want individuals, not not private equity people. Well that's

745
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>changed now now the NFL is going to entertain private

746
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>equity owners. Why why would they do that? Do you

747
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 1>think Jonas?

748
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Probably for money, more money, more stability, you know, if

749
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 2>there's if there's an issue, maybe easier to get you know,

750
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>get a team away from one guy who's holding the

751
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.199
<v Speaker 2>team hostage a la Daniel Snyder or some of these

752
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>other guys. That would be my guess.

753
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here's that's one reason. I'll give you another one

754
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>because a private equity firm probably can generate more revenue

755
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>than an individual to buy a team, and with the

756
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>costs of teams exploding, they need people with a lot

757
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 1>of money. I mean, what did they pay for the Redskins?

758
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Six billion?

759
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, geez, Freddy, are you allowed to still call

760
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 2>them that?

761
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh jeez?

762
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why do you have a heart? For God's sakes?

763
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 1>What they pay for the Commanders?

764
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Can I just apologize first and foremost, let me just

765
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 2>apologize to all our friends that are listening in Washington,

766
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>DC on the iHeart app. I just want to apologize

767
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 2>if fred had to bring up something awful like.

768
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 1>That, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, slip of the tongue.

769
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>How could you?

770
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 1>All right? Was it six billion?

771
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Though?

772
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Jonas? I think it was six billion?

773
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's correct, Yes, all right?

774
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, so what would the Dallas Cowboys go for? Jones

775
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 1>ever sold them? I mean ten billion? Twelve billion?

776
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got. They were valued at ten billion by

777
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Sportico recently.

778
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, ten billion dollars. Unless you're Steve Balmer, that's you know,

779
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>or stand cronky, you probably don't have that just sitting

780
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in the couch. So they're going to need people with

781
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>more money to keep buying these franchises, and of course

782
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the goal is for everybody to sell as high as

783
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 1>they can every time. It's just like if you're moving

784
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>into a house in a neighborhood, you know, you might

785
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>look for the lowest priced house, but the goal for

786
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the neighborhood is to keep the prices as

787
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>high as they can. Yes, the comps work, and it's

788
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 1>the same way in pro sports. The comps.

789
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 2>That's why when you see one of your neighbors doing

790
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>some work and you're really annoyed that they're fixing up

791
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 2>the house because they've got machines going all day, just

792
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>shut up, deal with it for a couple of weeks

793
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>because they're increasing the property value of the neighborhood by

794
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 2>improving the home. So just just wear it. And also,

795
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 2>I think, if I'm not mistaken, Dan Snyder when he

796
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 2>bought the team formerly known as the name that nobody's

797
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>allowed to say except for Fred apparently, he bought it

798
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 2>for I think eight hundred million, if I'm not mistaken,

799
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 2>and ended up turning around and selling it for six billion.

800
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Right now, he was fine, like fifty million dollars for

801
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 2>some season ticket shenanigans and all the other drama that

802
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>was going on there, but six billion dollars he got

803
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 2>for that team. So yeah, it's damn the NFL's flush

804
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>with cash.

805
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Good. Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's not a problem. People

806
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 1>have money, and people are going to spend the money.

807
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Look at it like this. When Guggenheim bought the Dodgers,

808
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>people thought they go for like one one point seven billion,

809
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what they thought. One six one seven. Gugenheim said,

810
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 1>we don't even have to open the auction. Here's two

811
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. Will you take it? Done? Okay, that's set

812
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the mark for baseball. Steve Balmer, all right, he's going

813
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to buy the Clippers. What should that have gone for?

814
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but certainly people were dumbfounded when he

815
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>offered two billion dollars done?

816
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 2>So you aren't the Celtics going to go for six

817
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I think the Celtics are up and there's conversations they're

818
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.039
<v Speaker 2>going to go for six billion. If I'm not mistaken, maybe, but.

819
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 1>They should who knows. You're a big market, yes, with

820
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>an established brand, they should go for that much.

821
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 2>And it's also we've talked about this before, I'm sure,

822
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:11.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's also when you're looking at live sports, it

823
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 2>really is the only appointment television that there is left

824
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>because everything else you can stream, you can binge watch.

825
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people will just wait until something comes

826
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>out so they can binge watch the entire thing because

827
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Netflix changed the game for everybody, because Netflix gave you

828
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 2>the ability to blow through a season of Stranger Things

829
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 2>or Last Chance You or any of these at Narcos,

830
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 2>any of these shows, and so now you're like, all right,

831
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 2>so where's the place that you have to be at

832
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and watch in real time? And the only thing you

833
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>got is sports and these owners all know that, and

834
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 2>these leagues all know it. That's why these ridiculous prices

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<v Speaker 2>are out there for Sunday ticket and all the other

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<v Speaker 2>things that come along with it, because they're like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the only show in town because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait for it to be over and binge watch it

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<v Speaker 2>all because everybody else is already on board watching it

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<v Speaker 2>in real time. And I think these leagues and these

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<v Speaker 2>owners looking at this going well, damn, like, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and take advantage of this while we got it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you're seeing maybe some you know, shop

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<v Speaker 2>their team around and others out there in others leagues

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<v Speaker 2>being open minded to some of these other revenue streams

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<v Speaker 2>that are being brought in because they're like, we're making

847
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<v Speaker 2>so much money, how far can we push this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they're going to keep pushing and keep pushing,

849
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<v Speaker 1>and franchise valuations will only increase. And with the media

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<v Speaker 1>rites deal. And I've said this many times, Jonas, I mean,

851
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>we work in sports radio. These are all TV shows now,

852
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not even really about sports anymore. These are TV shows,

853
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<v Speaker 1>every one of them. And the better the show, the

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<v Speaker 1>more money the network televising it makes. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they're willing to spend all of this money for rights fees,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is how they can try to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. If you don't have live sports, you're basically dead.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, like for example, on Labor Day,

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix is running Joey Chestnut for there's Kobayashi an in

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<v Speaker 2>a hot dog eating contest. And that was why Joey

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<v Speaker 2>Chestnut couldn't be a part of the Fourth of July

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<v Speaker 2>Extravaganza Coney Island, Like I want to know what the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are going to be for that event and how

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<v Speaker 2>many people are watching that in comparison, because Netflix basically

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<v Speaker 2>looked this and said all right, well, like, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we just turn this into event here? It is do

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<v Speaker 2>you have our subscription it's whatever, fifteen dollars a month, whatever.

868
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<v Speaker 2>You can watch these guys go mono imano, like the

869
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<v Speaker 2>WWE's gonna have Monday Night Raw on Netflix. Like you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing all of these streaming services get involved, and it's

871
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<v Speaker 2>just it's a completely different and look, sometimes it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a pain in the ass. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to just be able to turn on my TV,

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<v Speaker 2>go to a channel and let it that just be it.

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00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>But nowadays you got to turn it on, get the

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<v Speaker 2>other remote out, find the streaming app and get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But these owners are looking around going, yeah, we understand

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<v Speaker 2>that's like an extra step for you, but that's an

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<v Speaker 2>extra million dollar plus a game for us, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why they're taking full advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, as we continue to much to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Coaches Panel and executive panel is out, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what the league thinks about what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we come back, let's get into those deals.

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<v Speaker 1>The big deal signed in the n
