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So I have a guest who's supposed to be calling in,

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although he's late, which is very unlike him. So I'm

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going to send him a text while I talk. I'm

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gonna try to do I'm gonna try to basically talk

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and chew gum at the same time. Here, I'm gonna

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try to send Dez the Gift a text while I

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introduced this show. Well, it would be a very short text.

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I'm just saying it's time. Dz the Gift is the

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host of The Hustle Report, a very popular hip hop

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show here on ipmnation dot com. It's been on the

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air with us for a few years and he actually

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he does a bunch of things. He's a hip hop

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artist and a music empresario.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: He has his own record label, Massive Hustle Records. He produces,

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he does the radio show, does a lot of touring.

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He actually has his own radio channel here on ipmnation

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dot com, the Massive Hustle Channel, So definitely check that out.

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A lot of cool stuff on there. Check out his

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check out his tunes, some of the artists he works with.

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Check out the Hustle Report. It's a great show, really

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really cool. Right before we went on the air, I

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saw a oh, DZ is texting me back and he

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is saying, okay, so d Z should be calling in.

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Speaker 4: And by the way.

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Speaker 1: Right before I got on the air, I got a

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Facebook message from Trish the Dish, who is probably very

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far most of our listeners should be familiar with ipmnation

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dot com listeners.

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Speaker 4: She's been on a couple of different.

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Speaker 1: Shows on the station, but she asked if I had

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had a chance to see tonight's Republican debate, and unfortunately

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I missed it. I had to do a hypnosis session

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at our office and conquered. For those of you who

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don't know, I'm also a hypnotist. I probably don't sound

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very relaxing and hypnotizing when I'm on the air doing

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this show because I'm amped up. But anyway, here's zz DZ.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: My friend John, how you doing good. How are you, man,

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I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, we.

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Speaker 1: Haven't talked to you on the air here in a

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while since. I think the last time was it was

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quite some time ago actually, when you called into our

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show remote transmission that I used to do here with

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Dan Randlette. So I think it's been a while since

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we've caught up. Of course, I'm gonna see you later

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this week. But why don't you fill everybody in on

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what what you've been up to. I mentioned the Massive

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Hustle channel and the radio show and all that, But

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why don't you get us up to speed because you're

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a very busy man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I'm working on, like many things, I'm working

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on a couple of people's projects, so I really been

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trying to focus on that. Well, I'm working on a

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couple of people's projects right now. I can't really release

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the time names until like the dates get caught up. Sure,

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So I've been working on that mostly. Of course, I've

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been on my radio show. I just finished my one

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of my projects with Move Fast. I'm going to re

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release that soon, but it's going to be hosted by

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a DJ, so I'm going to really release that and

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I've just been you know, just trying to make every

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point connect.

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Speaker 4: Right, right?

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Speaker 1: And can you are you at liberty to say anything

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about this DVD that you're putting together?

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Speaker 5: Oh well, technically it's oh, it's probably gonna be like

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a Hustle Report DVD altogether. But I don't really have

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like the segment set up yet, So I don't really

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have you know, like section It's probably gonna be like

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sectioned off on like titled by what whoever is hosted,

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you know, like whoever is on that show. I probably

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have it like well, bosses and then rappers and then

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so forth and so off. Yeah, we'll be sectioned off

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Speaker 1: So, so you've been doing, uh, you've been doing some

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do you mean you're you're producing other artists?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm like, well, I'm requoting other artists, you know,

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the regular engineer and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 1: Are you Are you doing more of that than your

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own stuff lately? Or do you kind of you kind

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of divided up on it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because like I've been getting put on the extra

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little task here and there from other projects from like hey,

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that's that's been keeping me busy for a while, and

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I've been moving, so you know how that goes?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And what about these projects that you're working on? Are

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they released on Massive Hustle records or are these for

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other labels or are they just completely independent?

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Speaker 4: How does that work?

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Speaker 5: Like various artists and like one of like one of

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them or two of them could be considered a Massive

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Hustle project or need more into like Massive Hustle more

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involved with than others that you pick up work for

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friends and then like two projects are mostly like what

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Speaker 1: And now are you are you doing any more videos online?

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I know we have a couple up on IPM nation

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dot com. You did ah you did a video for

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crunch time and time because yeah, yeah exactly. Are you

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gonna be doing more of those or are you more

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just focused on audio right now?

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Speaker 5: Well? Pretty soon if Timon works out, pretty soon, I'm

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gonna start to have a song called wake Up. I

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like I have clips for it, so I'm probably gonna

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finish off that video. So that's probably be the next

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video I come.

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Speaker 6: Up with soon, very nice.

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Speaker 5: And then I have a couple other videos in mine.

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I just you know, Timon has to all work out

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and everything and flow. But that's probably my next video.

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh very cool.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that difficult making videos? Or I mean does a

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lot of work go into that? Does a lot of

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does a lot of set up in preparation go into that?

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how how does that work? I've never made a music

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video personally.

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Speaker 5: Well, sometimes it depends how technical the song actually is.

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a say, it's just one of those songs that really

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don't have any gap to it. It's just like a

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party song. Most of those can be fool like you

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can just win it, or if it doesn't have any

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like message directly and you can just win those type

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of videos. But if I have a message or something,

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usually you want to keep it around, like you know

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the topic and that's that that can become time consuming

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because like the places you might want to go and

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like say you have other places in other towns you

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want to go for locations, it could be time consuming.

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but like I didn't have that many far locations, so

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it's all like go here, go there, go there, and

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then it's done.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you have a crew of people that

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you work with when you make videos or is it

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is it just a couple of you with a couple

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of video cameras. I mean, how how extensive does that

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part of it get?

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Speaker 5: Well, it depends how If it's it's just how it

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has to be. If it's a fas video that you

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just want to put up that you you know, one

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period of view, then you know it takes as much

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time as you put into it. Sure what was volunteering

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or going to help out? You know, the more people

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the narrative. But if you can't find the more people,

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then how you gotta get it done right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: D I y as they say?

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Speaker 1: Is it when you go to different locations? This is

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something I was thinking about when I think it was

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a video for crunch Time. It looks like it's shot

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in a few different places. I'm curious to do you

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have to at the level that you're doing this, Do

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you have to get any kind of permission from local

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towns or anything that you're filming in or do you

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just go and do.

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Speaker 5: It technically you should. Like if I say, like, if

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if you're going to do a big scene with a

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lot of people in like a field or something, you're

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probably gonna need some kind of permission before you like

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just go wing that. But if it's like if you

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have like a couple people and you have a couple

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of scenes, most of the time it's more like, oh,

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before anybody comes, you know, yeah, get the tlip done

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and keep it moving and until they show up and

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say you can't do that, and they keep it moving right.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot like, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Our friend just lost like two thousand thouarsand on like

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city permits that he couldn't get his money back on.

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I'm like, oh that's crazy. Oh wow, yeah, primates is

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even high. And it's like just like and they when

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he said, when he told me, he's like he had

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to take it as a lost, I was like, oh no,

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Im like like pretty much the government just stoke them.

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Speaker 6: Thus and I'm like, wow, well, you know, uh, all

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our our governments are our local you know, city and

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state governments are so are so broke these days that

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they're trying to they're looking for revenue anyway they can

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get it, you.

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Speaker 5: Know their way through.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, everything's everything's getting more expensive in that

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regard you are.

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Speaker 4: You playing out at all?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing any touring or any any live shows?

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I know you're you're you're so busy with with everything else.

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Do you have time to actually get out and play

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some shows?

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Speaker 5: Not like, yeah, I do a couple of local shows

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handy and not like like sporadically get thrown a lot

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of shows. But I really don't get it to do

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as much as I'm going on because I got so

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much going on on my side to it's like more

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I take the ones I can or you know, or

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it has to be like a special ocage and kind

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of deal right now. Sure, But mostly I'm just working

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on the audio and video and trying to, you know,

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try to do the business side of things right.

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Speaker 4: Right is.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any any advice for because you've been

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doing this for a while and and you've had a

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lot of success, and you're you're very well connected. You

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have all these different artists that you work with who

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are great. I mean, you're you're doing a lot of

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really good stuff. Do you have any advice for young

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kids who are just kind of starting out in the

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in the hip hop game, you know how to how

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to get going and and what they need to do

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to not even necessarily get to your level, but just

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to get out there and get noticed and have at

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least a taste of success. Well, any advice, because I'm

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sure people ask you.

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Speaker 5: Well, right now, it's like a lot of people are

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not willing to work with other people. I would say,

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try to make a connection with other people and try

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to like have like if you have your neighborhood, have

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your neighborhood involved with your project, you know, like if

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you have other friends that are into the music, try

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to put a little drive into your friends and try

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to make a little team because like doing stuff by

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yourself usually doesn't work as good as you might think.

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure need one at least.

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Speaker 5: Two people, three people, no matter how you look at it.

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So I say, don't be too arrogant, like, don't think

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you're better than everyone from the beginning, because we all

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have gold. We're all trying to get some me It's

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more like how can we work together to get there

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faster because the music is not fast. More like patience

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and timing and you know, studying all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely I always say, you know, in the music industry,

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you got to crawl a mile just to gain an inch.

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And and I think what you said is true. You know,

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putting a team together, networking is extremely important. No man

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is an island, not in this business, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, these are the people that are like solo artists.

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Usually it all comes down to like behind and they

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had five other people, six other people before they actually

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got Starady.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, I mean there really is no such

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thing as a solo project. Yeah, you know, you can,

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you can call it that, but but everybody's got.

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Speaker 4: People behind them.

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Speaker 1: And you know, even if you go to see a

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solo artist perform, like say you have a band. You know,

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a solo artist who goes out and performs with a

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live band, Well, they're not really performing solo.

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Speaker 4: They have a band behind them.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's really it's it's uh, yeah, you can't

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really do it on your own. You have to you

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have to make those connections with other people. And especially,

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like you said, if you can find other people locally

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in your community who are interested in what you're doing,

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that'll go a long way. And and it and it

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starts with that. How did you start out. I mean,

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what what was your first because you wear different hats

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in the industry as far as what you do.

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Speaker 4: Did you did you just.

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Speaker 1: Start out rapping and then you decided you wanted to

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start a label and and do radio shows or what

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was the what was the beginning of of this whole

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thing for you?

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Speaker 5: Well, pretty much the whole thing was like I started right,

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I was like over writer, and I just wrote all

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the time. And then all my friends started going to

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the studios, and me myself, at the point in time,

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I didn't have money or like a studio close enough

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that was actually reasonable to actually go to. So it

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kind of came down to and then I moved to

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all the like I heard about all the music stores.

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I just started going to music stores a lot. And

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then I just decided, I'm like, you know, I might

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as well start buying like studio equipment. So I started

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buying it, and I bought a couple like I bought

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a program, and then the little book. I started in

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the book, and then I just started putting music together.

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Like a lot of people went to school with I. Hey,

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school was at my round or my funding wasn't right

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for school to be honest, So sure, I had to

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do what I had, So I just started buying equipment

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and started engineering and yeah for that, and then I

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really and then I just engineered my own music. I did.

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A couple of my friends got into it, well, they

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were into it before, but since I had a studio,

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it was more accessible for us to get work done.

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So we just started working and just kept working. And

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that's all it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you've definitely got a lot of work ethic

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and drive, and it shows up in not only your output,

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but in the I know I've noticed in the lyrics

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track like Crunch Time again, I'll go back to that,

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and a lot of a lot of your tracks. That

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seems to be a central theme of yours is talking

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about how you got to hustle, You got to really

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do the work. You know, you can't you can't just

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talk about it. But I think you and I once

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had a conversation a long time ago when we first

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started working together on this radio stuff, when you were

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you were talking about, you know, you got to play

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your position and you got to work, and a lot

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of people don't understand that, Uh, you know, you really

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got to put the work in. You got to make

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the effort. You can't. You can't sit around and say,

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I hope this happens, I hope I get discovered or whatever.

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You got to go out there. You got to put

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yourself out there and do the work.

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Speaker 5: And that's probably, like I think, for a lot of people,

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that's the scariest part of it because like a lot

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of artists, I rumants, who it's like the willing studio work,

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but as soon as like the actual work comes into it,

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they actually have to put into work for their own projects.

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Sometimes it like it comes to a big halt, like huh,

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like like that's the biggest thing. So you know, it's

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like so after this is done, what are you gonna do?

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It's like, well, I didn't know I had to do

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anything else. Like it. It's cool because a lot of

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people will be willing to pay for that, like pay

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someone else to do that. Sure, Sometimes like that you

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lose the person, Like you know what I'm saying, You

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move the person when you don't have that person in

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your face. It's kind of cool to I feel like,

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it's kind of cool to meet the person when they

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first start. You know, it gives you a better connection,

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you know, like when they first started, you see that

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local sound like, oh man, I remember when that person

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had that song right seven years ago, and then when

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they blow up, it seems like wow, you know, you

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got to know them. It's more even if they're not

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from your town. Any artist you listen to that first

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music from the beginning and then you hear him six

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years later, like I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people get.

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Speaker 1: I'll say tainted for lack of a better word, by

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the major label system as far as their material, because

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what I like is a lot of local hip hop

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and and you know, underground stuff and a lot of

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a lot of the artists that you play on your show,

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and but a lot of what you hear on will

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say ninety four or five because the area that our

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highest concentration of listeners and is probably familiar with ninety

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four to five out of Boston. You know, you hear

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a lot a lot of it kind of sounds the same,

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and it's you know, I mean I often think of,

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you know, when talking about hip hop, I think of

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I don't know how you feel about fifty cent, But

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his early stuff like how to Rob I think is

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a great track. It's clever, it's funny and whatnot, but

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you wouldn't expect to hear anything like that from him

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now now it's all I mean, I'm not a fan

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of of anything he's done in the last I don't know,

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five six years, however.

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Speaker 4: Long it's been.

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Speaker 5: But I have to get Richard dies trying. No one

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knows what happened. Yeah, but yeah, like that's that's that's

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the thing. Like I haven't listened to the radio in

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like a year and a half now, like you know,

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like that's kind of like for the kids, like and

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a lot of artists I listened to or listen to

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or some of the artists I ran into. That's what

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a lot of artists driving for is that radio sound.

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Me myself, I think I haven't listened to radio enough

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to find like you know, like focus on that radio

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sound to a lot of people like, well this is

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what I'm going with my project. And certain people I

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really can't work with. It's like I'm not even a

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factor of I hate him. It's more like not like

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in that music or I actually want to work with,

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but certain people like won't be Maybe I won't be.

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I don't know, maybe I just can't complete their cask you.

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, sometimes.

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Speaker 5: Of businesses like that, I can't you know, I can't

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take it as all man, you know, reflect that in

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business sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But have you have you worked with people or try

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to work with people who've literally said to you they

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they've actually used that phrase that they want that radio sound.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like, I want that hit sound that one

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persons referred to as I wanted to I want that

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Drake sound. I was like, I really thought that. I

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felt crazy, hope me. They wanted to sound like another artist.

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I totally like. I was like, I don't even know

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what to respond to that. Yeah, Like, how can I

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how can I complete making you someone else? What? I'm

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just looking at that one Drake sound, that one Drake take.

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I'm like, do you even sing? I don't understand how

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could you ever sound like someone else?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: But a lot of people, like I think they're like

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taking other people's material, really running it through their brain

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a little deep and just trying to go with it.

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Because that's seen a lot of artists to start to

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sound like other people, like exactly like other people. Sure,

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I can't for them before they started listening to this

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artist and act and they sound just like the artists

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they listened to, like, you know, the Little Lanes, the Drakes,

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So whatever they listen to on the radio, the music

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starts to sound like that, right Like music's like redundant

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right now. Well, of course music's always been redundant in

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the music like hip hop industry, but it's getting really bad, nass.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of these people too who do that, they they're

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probably also thinking of it from kind of a marketing

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standpoint of well, if I can sound like this person,

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I'm going to have a hit song too well, you know.

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And that's that's been pervasive in the music industry forever,

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not just in hip hop, but I think in all

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genres of music. We saw it, you know, we saw

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it with grunge in the nineties, all of a sudden,

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everyone wants to sound like they're from.

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Speaker 4: Seattle, you know. Or in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when I was a kid, you know, hair metal,

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you know, all these uh yet all these hair bands,

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it sounded alike. And and I think now with a

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lot of the more not hip hop but electronic music,

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you know, a lot of people want to sound like

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Kesha or a Lady Gaga or this or that, because

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you know, it kind of does become like a almost

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like an assembly line kind of thing, where you know,

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it is a business. So the major labels, they they

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treat it like a business. Well, of course, they haven't

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always been very smart about treating it like a business,

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which is why part of why they're having problems now.

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But they they treat it like it becomes that assembly

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line kind of mentality. It's like, Okay, we had a

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hit with with this, we had a hit with X,

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so now let's make Y and Z sound like X

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and and it'll all be success. Well, and of course,

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uh that ends up backfiring eventually.

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Speaker 5: But it seems like lately the radio still forces the

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same thing. So even if you give the like if

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you it seems like the radio has no conformity, Like

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they don't want to conform. They're like, we're just gonna

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run with this and we're sticking to this until I

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don't know, till the world ends.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: I can't expect anything out of them. That's why, like

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I just do whatever else, Like, well, the.

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Speaker 4: Thing is too. I think it's smart too.

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Speaker 1: I think it's smart to ignore what's going on at

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the radio and try to do what you think sounds good,

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because I think chasing trends is pointless because if you chase,

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if you chase trends, by the time whatever material it

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is that you've created, that you've produced, by the time

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it works its way through whatever promotional pipelines you're putting

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it through, whatever is currently working for everybody else may

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not be working for everybody else anymore. Yeah, the net

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for all, you know, the next big thing might be

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your sound.

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Speaker 5: You have the sound that you used to have before

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00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,559
you conform.

478
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: Right right exactly? You know, you don't know.

479
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: It's it's so unpredictable, So you might as well do

480
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,880
something that you like that you hope other people will like.

481
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,599
But ultimately you have to be to support it as

482
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,440
an artist or as a producer or or a marketing

483
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,559
guy or whatever it is that you're doing management, it's

484
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:28,720
got to be something that you're happy with, and because

485
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,880
if you're not happy with it, it's you know, it's

486
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,000
hard to fake that, you.

487
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: Know what I mean, it'll show right through it. That's yeah, absolutely,

488
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,480
that's yeah, that's good. I need try to keep my

489
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:45,000
hands like if I I think, if I keep my

490
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:49,640
mind busy with work, and anything else is good, right.

491
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Right, It's important to keep moving and let me ask

492
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,519
you and we'll let you go in a minute, ez,

493
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:57,519
But I want to ask you to the artists that

494
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,599
you work with. Do they do they find you? Do

495
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,279
you approach them? I mean, how does that work? Do

496
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:04,599
you seek out artists that you.

497
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:06,279
Speaker 4: Like or are they finding you?

498
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 5: Well? Sometimes it's more like a friend who say, hey,

499
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,200
like i've I work with someone. Someone else will bring

500
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,160
like a like a referral kind of deal. Or or

501
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,880
sometimes I go or I go look for certain people

502
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,960
that I want to work with that I was supposed

503
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,279
to work with. I don't go too far out of

504
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:30,359
the boundaries of who wants to work with me. Like

505
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,279
some I'll reach out to other artists. Sometimes I get

506
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,240
turned down, and it's cool, that's a part of the game. Sure,

507
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,079
But if I reach out the first time and then

508
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,720
you get mad at me when I don't reach out

509
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,480
the second time, that just that happens?

510
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: Does it really?

511
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:46,279
Speaker 7: Yeah?

512
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: Because like I'll reach out and then person I'll turn

513
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,279
me down, and then I guess they'll hear from a

514
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,359
friend and then they'll call me back, like, hey, you

515
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,799
know what, I want to do this then tho, I'm

516
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:56,880
like I just offered that.

517
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Wait yeah, yeah, absolutely, well, you know, musicians can be

518
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:08,359
uh can be fickle sometimes and you know and whatnot.

519
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,559
We've all dealt with that. Well, DZ before we let

520
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,039
you go, can you please let everybody know? I mean

521
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:17,000
I I told everybody about the massive hustle channel here

522
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:19,640
on ipmnation dot com. But can you fill everyone into

523
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:21,759
on where else we can find you online? Where's the

524
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:22,480
best place to go?

525
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:28,079
Speaker 5: Oh? Well, another place is, even though the negative name

526
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,440
is called that crack dot com okay, a site. It's

527
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,920
as a it's a mixtape site to like all like

528
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:42,160
mixtape musicians. It's the holy grail of mixtape. It's a

529
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,880
site that you can just go see all my projects

530
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,119
and download all my projects. You can see my videos

531
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,079
on that site too, So like, if if you can

532
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,359
download my mixtape there too, you just put in DZ

533
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,039
to give under the search bar and I'll pop up

534
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,640
so all the information we'll pop up too.

535
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,039
Speaker 1: Excellent, And can we find you on Facebook and everything

536
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:05,400
as well?

537
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Facebook and all that guy essentially Yeah, social networks?

538
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool.

539
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: You know.

540
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:16,839
Speaker 1: Well, d z U, we'll we'll let you go. I'm

541
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,240
actually going to play a track and then uh, I'll

542
00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:23,200
come back and uh yap at the audience about some

543
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:25,680
other things going on. But thank you very much for

544
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,799
joining us here tonight. I'm gonna play uh after we

545
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240
let you off. I'm gonna play this track night for

546
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,799
admittedly selfish reasons. I love it because you sampled my

547
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,799
voice on this, which I think is just so cool.

548
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,559
Speaker 5: You know, I got to sit a little love.

549
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,799
Speaker 1: I hate absolutely absolutely, and I like the I like

550
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:47,319
the nickname the pimp Juice. That's uh, I'm not sure

551
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:48,960
why you call me that, but that's all right.

552
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 5: Really doesn't have a connection. It's more like a respect

553
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,160
factor that you got a nickname.

554
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

555
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're trying to get nicknamed, so you have a nickname.

556
00:27:58,519 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 8: You know.

557
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely I appreciate it, man, I think it's awesome. Yeah yeah, no,

558
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,720
that's cool.

559
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: So uh DZ.

560
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: Well, I'll be seeing your Thursday anyway. But thanks very much,

561
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,759
Thanks very much for calling in tonight.

562
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 6: Man.

563
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: This has been a great conversation. And everybody check out

564
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,200
Massive Hustle and uh and the uh what was that website?

565
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 9: Again?

566
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, crack, what is.

567
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,079
Speaker 5: At okay?

568
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:25,319
Speaker 4: Cool?

569
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check that out right after the show, actually,

570
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,440
because I haven't been to that yet. But DZ the Gift,

571
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,039
thanks very much for joining us tonight.

572
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: Man a wonderful night.

573
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: All right, Man, take care, I'll see us soon, see

574
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,720
you bye bye.

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,799
Speaker 4: All right, all right.

576
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: That was DZ the Gift, host of the Hustle Report

577
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,160
here on i PM nation dot Com on the Massive Channel,

578
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,279
the Massive Hustle Channel. Rather, h I'm gonna play this track.

579
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,519
After the track, I'm gonna come back talk some politics

580
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:54,920
I've got. I've got so much to talk about. I

581
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,759
missed the Republican debate tonight right here in New Hampshire.

582
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:03,119
We do the show in Manchester, New Hampshire. But like

583
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,480
I was saying before, I had a hypnosis session and

584
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,319
then I came to the studio hoping to see a

585
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,440
little bit of the debate here on the computer, and

586
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,839
I couldn't find anywhere online. It was a CNN debate.

587
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480
I went to CNN dot Com. Couldn't find it streaming

588
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,000
anywhere online. So I'll have to watch it later. I'm

589
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,240
sure cnn'll be re running it all night, so I'll

590
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,000
peep it out when I get home, or watch it

591
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,920
on YouTube or whatever. And I'll have some debate analysis

592
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,920
for you later in the week on the Express edition

593
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440
of the show. But I've got a thousand other things

594
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,680
to talk about politically, and we're not going to get

595
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,240
through it all tonight. Obviously, it's only an hour show.

596
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,000
Whatever I don't get to tonight, i'll do in the

597
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,200
Wednesday edition of the Express edition of Matt Connorton Unleashed.

598
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960
But the live show is not over yet. We're only

599
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,640
halfway through. I'm gonna play this track, like I said,

600
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,799
kind of for selfish reasons, because I'm on it. Dez

601
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160
actually samples my voice, so listen carefully. You'll hear me

602
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,759
in there. He's actually sampled me on a couple tracks.

603
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,960
I think it's pretty cool. I'm very flattered by that.

604
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,920
It's good for my ego. So anyway, this is night

605
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,279
by DZ the Gift here on Matt Connorton Unleashed on

606
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,200
i p M nation dot com.

607
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,599
Speaker 9: Last night I heard the screaming.

608
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:25,519
Speaker 10: Loud voices behind another sleepless night me. He won't do

609
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,880
no good to go.

610
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 11: Got this cousin the fhall.

611
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 8: I see we're gonna do this ship right now.

612
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 9: Let U you are now say.

613
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 12: Sign.

614
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:50,359
Speaker 13: I heard screaming sign I heard snignard sign.

615
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: He screaming.

616
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,039
Speaker 9: SPLI to the.

617
00:30:55,039 --> 00:31:10,319
Speaker 11: Scream because nothing mother half Wilco's a child in night shot.

618
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,279
Speaker 4: Fine, he's saying this is my hood and.

619
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 14: I'm a wow.

620
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,359
Speaker 8: Motherfucker can't say this street because of you to it saying.

621
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,559
Speaker 3: Ship where my man got head half in the pin,

622
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,920
never see the streets again.

623
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:27,079
Speaker 9: At the poop my pull pin, Yo, It's just me.

624
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,119
Speaker 14: Take in it what you want.

625
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,319
Speaker 3: My little man ain't gonna feed himself. And y'all just

626
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,559
preaching for wealth. It's hard to faker. Should I speak.

627
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,759
My people in the struggle are speaking for them. Paul

628
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,640
Barry hard handed and hard and hairing out love folcus everything,

629
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:52,480
no matter what bills, dog keeper bearing vast hustler cashall

630
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:56,559
I rest bear love, I didn't sleep to the world

631
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,319
give saying.

632
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:58,359
Speaker 9: What the fuck?

633
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 8: Goto like Jimmy and not a sleepless Guta.

634
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 13: Stand spoil, spin out side.

635
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: Steaming, pray to come up every day, praying not to

636
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:37,440
see the chap pop up, serve three sixty five, break

637
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,440
it down five so let it signed sealed, the recoiled

638
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:46,880
damage other John stole money, No aim, he ain't innocent

639
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,759
by stays putting in work because the old hand told

640
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,480
freeze frame were says he got the real triple Coton

641
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:59,000
paint and my brain sling pain when it's time to

642
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:03,160
go because out with class, my child, you canna get

643
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,960
everything I didn't have. Everybody want to be a walk

644
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,559
and don't got the knowledge.

645
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:09,759
Speaker 5: Cass got to.

646
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: Cut off by way for Charlet's tossing and turning. Did

647
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,759
it anyway? Can't go back to sleeping in hallways? Man,

648
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,440
It's tough.

649
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 9: Another another.

650
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,079
Speaker 4: Idea Nation dot com.

651
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,559
Speaker 1: You are now signed into the Hospitalnation dot mine.

652
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,759
Speaker 9: I heard screaming last night. I heard last night.

653
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,519
Speaker 14: I heard this night.

654
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:46,319
Speaker 9: I heard screaming. This, my heard spooming, this, my screaming

655
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,279
now this night screaming.

656
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:57,359
Speaker 4: Did you hear it? Do you hear me?

657
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:57,759
Speaker 9: In there?

658
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: That is uh that is night by DZ the Gift

659
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880
beat by Flowhalla with a little cameo from yours truly

660
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,559
Pimp Juice as the DZ the Gift likes to call me.

661
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,280
And I'm very honored to uh have been assigned that nickname.

662
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,119
Like he said, you know, it's it's a respect thing

663
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,679
and and I think that's really cool. And he's great

664
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,320
to work with and I'm very honored to have him

665
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,079
on ipmnation dot com the Massive Hustle Channel. If you're

666
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:29,480
interested in hip hop, definitely check out the Massive Hustle

667
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,360
channel Here on ipmnation dot com, check out The Hustle

668
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,880
Report DZ's show. I love underground hip hop. I've always

669
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,400
been into hip hop. Sometimes people are surprised that a

670
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,360
pasty faced, thirty something New Hampshire white boy like myself

671
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,760
is isn't a hip hop but you know, I grew

672
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,440
up listening to a lot of metal, a lot of

673
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,039
mainstream rock, and I probably and I still listen to

674
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:52,599
all that stuff and I still love it, and I've

675
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,480
played in a lot of bands, but I've always loved

676
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:58,599
hip hop as well. I probably listened to almost as

677
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,199
much hip hop as I do rock. And the underground

678
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:03,800
stuff is great. The stuff that you're not hearing on radio,

679
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,079
the stuff that hasn't been tainted by the major labels,

680
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,960
I think is really really cool. And this kind of

681
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
stuff DZ plays also too. If you're in an area

682
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,719
where you have access to a college radio station. Again,

683
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,199
on college radio you'll hear a lot of really cool,

684
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,239
underground hip hop stuff that hasn't made it yet to

685
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:29,039
clear channel and all these mainstream FM stations that just

686
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,880
play a lot of stuff that, like we were talking about,

687
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,239
it all kind of sounds the same. So I'm gonna

688
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,280
play another DZ the Gift track at the end of

689
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,039
tonight's show, personal favorite of mine called Hurting, which I

690
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,440
think is one of his best tracks. It's really really good.

691
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:44,480
So that's what we're gonna end the show with in

692
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,519
approximately twenty five minutes. We got a little waste to go,

693
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,159
like I was saying before the track, so much to

694
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,960
talk about politically, and if you're joining us late, no,

695
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,679
I'm not talking about tonight's Republican debate that happened right

696
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,800
here in New Hampshire because unfortunately I had to miss it.

697
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Like I was saying earlier, I had a hypnotherapy session.

698
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:10,039
I'm also a professional hypnotherapist. Like I said before, I

699
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,119
know I don't sound very soothing when I'm on here

700
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,599
during the show, but small lamped up. But when I

701
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,800
do hypnosis, I talk like this in a very soothing tone,

702
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,000
so I can help you to relax, and you know

703
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,119
I do all that. And so I had to do

704
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:26,800
a session, and then I came here to the studio,

705
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,239
and I was excited because I got here. I got

706
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,039
to the studio just in time to get online and

707
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,119
watch the debate, and then I couldn't find it online,

708
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,599
so I'll just watch it later. So I'll have debate

709
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:38,199
analysis for you later in the week.

710
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, what to do?

711
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 9: What to do?

712
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,079
Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of stuff we could do. I

713
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,840
think I want to talk about this whole Uh you

714
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,039
know what, we have unfinished business. Here's here's what I'm

715
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,159
gonna do. And whatever we don't get to tonight, I'll

716
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:57,360
get to on the Express edition for tomorrow, which I'll

717
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,880
end up recording right after the live show tonight anyway,

718
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,320
so be sure to come back for that. But we

719
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:05,840
talked a lot. We've been talking a lot lately about

720
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Herman Kane. Herman Kine is a big deal right now

721
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,400
because Herman Kane Republican candidate for the presidency. He's black,

722
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,760
which is interesting in itself because you don't see a

723
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,320
lot of black Republicans. You see lots of black Democrats,

724
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
not a lot of black Republicans, but they do exist.

725
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:26,159
Speaker 4: It's funny.

726
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:27,519
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I didn't think that there

727
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:32,639
were any black British people. So until I remember Billy Ocean.

728
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,119
He had a bunch of hits in the eighties. I

729
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,480
heard Billy Ocean speaking in an interview. I actually saw

730
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:41,719
him on MTV doing an interview and I was like, Oh,

731
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,519
he's British and he's black.

732
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: Who knew?

733
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,199
Speaker 1: So they had a Justice Mike a little bit. Hang on,

734
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,840
bear with me, all right. The mic was tilted at

735
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,239
an odd angle and it bothers me. I'm not very

736
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,719
ocd about most things, but a mike tilted at a

737
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,760
straight angle is bothersome. So Herman Kaine is a big deal.

738
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,679
And he's a big deal because there has been a

739
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,400
change in the mainstream media's perception of him, the political media,

740
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,519
how they talk about him on you know, on these

741
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,840
political channels, these news channels, on cable news. Because I'm

742
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,360
watching this slow transformation that's taking place. Initially, Herman Kine,

743
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,599
Herman Kane's been kind of a big deal from the beginning. Again,

744
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,360
he has the novelty of being an African American Republican,

745
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,480
but also a lot of Republicans have gravitated toward him,

746
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,400
which I think is cool and I think it's I

747
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,320
think it's refreshing because I tend to think largely because

748
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,400
of issues like like immigration, for example, I have a

749
00:38:56,519 --> 00:39:01,920
tendency to perceive that there is still a segment of

750
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:07,320
the Republican Party that is probably racist, a segment of it. Now, please, Republicans,

751
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,079
don't freak out. I'm not saying Republicans are racist, but

752
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:14,239
I'm just saying I'm sure that there is a small,

753
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,960
probably a very very small, don't freak out on me,

754
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:23,000
a small percentage of the Republican Party that doesn't like

755
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:23,519
black people.

756
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I mean I.

757
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: The way Republicans talk about Obama in many cases is

758
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,039
not like Republicans talk about most Democrats. I mean, I

759
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,639
remember when Bill Clinton was president and a lot of

760
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,079
Republicans didn't like him, and you know, they would complain

761
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:39,920
about him and whatnot.

762
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 4: But with Obama.

763
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,599
Speaker 1: The thing that I've noticed about how Republicans talk about Obama.

764
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,119
With Obama, it's not enough for a lot of Republicans

765
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:54,000
to simply dislike his policies, to simply disagree with him politically,

766
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,639
or to even make banal statements like oh, Obama's going

767
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,760
to run the country into the ground or whatever. They're

768
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,199
whatever their political prejudice is no. No, No, I don't

769
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,599
know too many Republicans who simply dislike Obama. They don't

770
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:13,239
dislike Obama. They absolutely hate Obama. They loathe Obama in

771
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,880
a way that I don't see them loathing so forcefully

772
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,239
other political figures with whom they disagree, And I kind

773
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,679
of wonder where that intense hatred and loathing comes from.

774
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,559
So I tend to think there's still some some racism

775
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,960
on the right, maybe more subconscious racism, not intentional racism,

776
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,719
not not conscious racism, but a subconscious racism, like they're

777
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,199
freaked out by him because he doesn't look like them,

778
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,039
in other words, because he's not white. You know, they're

779
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,480
not They're not necessarily looking at him and saying, you know,

780
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:54,960
and thinking the N word or whatever, but they're But

781
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:59,440
they're still uncomfortable at the idea that a black man

782
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:02,760
is leader of the free world on some level, on

783
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,679
some subconscious level, because like I said, it's not enough

784
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,800
to dislike him. No, I don't know anyone who dislikes Obama.

785
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,519
You either like him or you absolutely despise him with

786
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:16,880
every cell of your being. That's my observation. But on

787
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,719
the other hand, seeing a guy like Herman Kane capture

788
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,880
the imagination of the Republican Party the way that he has.

789
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:27,239
That gives me some hope that that intense that the

790
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,039
racism that I'm sure does exist in the Republican Party

791
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,360
to some relatively small degree, that faction of the party

792
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,880
may be even smaller than I thought, because a lot

793
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,760
of Republicans like Herman Kane.

794
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:43,679
Speaker 4: So that's positive.

795
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: And Herman Kane, the transformation that has taken place in

796
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,599
how the media covers him is that initially Herman Kane

797
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,920
was viewed and discussed as basically a fluke, a French

798
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:03,039
candidate that no one could really take seriously because no

799
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,719
matter how well he did, no matter how many big

800
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,440
applause lines he would have in the debates, no matter

801
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:14,840
how charismatic he would come across, no matter how much

802
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,599
Republicans would say I agree with him, he's the one

803
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:20,920
who's making the most sense. I mean, even that douchebag

804
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,280
Hank Williams Junior on his Fox and Friends appearance where

805
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,320
he compared Obama Hitler even he said, this guy who

806
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,719
you know, you know, he has a Confederate flag hanging

807
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,679
somewhere in his house. Even Hank Williams Junior said, Herman

808
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,199
Kane is the only one who's making any sense right now.

809
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 4: And that's good.

810
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Republicans can embrace a black man.

811
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Speaker 4: That gives me hope.

812
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:53,119
Speaker 1: But what's happened is in the beginning, Herman Kane was

813
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:57,480
regarded as a fluke. Even after he won the Florida Strapol,

814
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,920
he was even then being talked about as a flu

815
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,519
These political pundits, these analysts would say, well, Herman Kane,

816
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:06,000
he's really making waves. He just won the Florida stoppol.

817
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,679
That's kind of a big deal. But come on, we

818
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,480
all know he's not gonna be the nominee. This will pass.

819
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:13,639
Speaker 15: Or the really.

820
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Condescending thing, and I think unfairly dismissive thing that I

821
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,039
would consistently hear them.

822
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: Say about him was that Herman Kane is.

823
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: The rise of Herman Kane in the polls is merely

824
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:33,239
a symptom, a byproduct of the incredible dissatisfaction, the disenchantment

825
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,280
that Republican voters have with the rest of the field.

826
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,039
They're not happy with Perry, they're not happy with Romney,

827
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Bachmann's a joke, Huntsman's a moderate Gingrich is a scumbag,

828
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:47,880
so you know, so they're kind of in these polls

829
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:50,239
they're going with Kane, but it doesn't really mean anything.

830
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,559
It's a protest thing, which I came on the air

831
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:58,039
and said, I thought that was unfair. Why do we

832
00:43:58,159 --> 00:43:59,239
have to make that assumption?

833
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: Is finally, very.

834
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: Slowly beginning to change because recent polls have shown Herman Kane,

835
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,880
the guy that they treated like a fringe candidate, like

836
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,639
a fluke. Recent polls have shown him as a front runner.

837
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:21,199
I saw a poll a couple days ago. I think

838
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:25,519
it was a rasmusen pole. It had him tied with

839
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,360
Romney at seventeen percent. They were tied at seventeen percent.

840
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,360
Perry I think, had fallen to nine percent. The rest

841
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,559
of them, who gives a shit at this point. So

842
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:43,960
it's finally happening where establishment media is finally beginning to

843
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:49,719
take Herman Kane seriously. I still don't think any of

844
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000
them believe he has a shot at winning the nomination,

845
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,440
but wouldn't that be interesting if he did. I'll tell

846
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:01,320
you what, two black guys debating one Republican, one Democrat.

847
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,039
Can you imagine it? Two black guys running for the

848
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:10,599
presidency of the United States. Now, I thought it said

849
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:13,840
something very positive. Look, whether you like Obama or you

850
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,320
hate Obama, putting the partisanship aspect of it aside, I

851
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,159
thought it said something enormously positive about America that we

852
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,159
had finally elected a black man, an African American. Well,

853
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,400
I mean he's African American. He's not fully black, but whatever.

854
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,239
Actually I saw him dancing once and he was surprised.

855
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,239
He kind of danced like Eddie Murphy's impression of how

856
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,119
white people dance, which I thought was very strange. But anyway,

857
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,000
can you imagine if Herman Kane were the Republican nominee,

858
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,280
two black guys duking it out for the presidency, that

859
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,639
would say something even more incredible about how far we've

860
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,519
come as a country. So I think in that regard

861
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:05,199
it would be very positive. And I found myself, even

862
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,760
though I don't agree with Herman Kane, I understand.

863
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: Why people like him.

864
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: I kind of like the guy in some ways. He

865
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,519
is kind of refreshing. He's a straight talker, and I

866
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,880
dig that. And I defended him on the Friday edition

867
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,039
of the Express Edition because after his interview with Lawrence

868
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,360
O'Donnell on the Last Word on MSNBC. I thought Herman

869
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,760
Kain was treated very unfairly by Lawrence O'Donnell, and I

870
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,440
played for you guys the clip of Lawrence O'Donnell chastising

871
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:37,320
him for not serving in Vietnam and basically calling him

872
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,119
a draft dodger, which I thought was very unfair, and

873
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,719
I thought Herman Kane's explanation made perfect sense, and I

874
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,719
defended Herman Kine on that, And have another clip that

875
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,960
I'd like to play for you where Herman Kane from

876
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,639
that same interview, where Herman Kine is discussing, well, I'm sorry,

877
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,119
I forgot what. Oh, Herman Kane was discussing his lack

878
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:04,679
of participation in the civil rights movement, where again I

879
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,360
thought Lawrence O'Donnell went a little tough on him. So

880
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:16,679
I've talked a lot so far. You know, you know

881
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,480
there's a big butt coming, right. I've talked a lot

882
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,960
about the positive aspects of the Herman Kane candidacy and

883
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,920
why I think we should take him seriously, and I

884
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:32,159
kind of like the guy. But now I'm gonna take

885
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:34,360
the gloves off and tell you some things I don't like.

886
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:39,239
First of all, and these are minor complaints compared to

887
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,639
the big one that's coming. First of all, he is

888
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,639
a hard right wing guy. I mean, he's a right

889
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,599
wing conservative, a true right wing conservative. He's no Mitt Romney,

890
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,360
He's damn sure, no John Huntsman.

891
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: He's a right winger. Okay.

892
00:47:56,559 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: He believes that gay people choose to be gay. For example,

893
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,960
he opposes gay marriage. He opposes lifting the ban on

894
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,280
gays in the military. I mean, even just saying that

895
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,159
much should give you an idea of where he is.

896
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: Socially.

897
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: He is both a fiscal and a social conservative. I

898
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:25,119
could give you more examples, but I want to get

899
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:29,760
to the big thing. My big problem with Herman Kane

900
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:36,800
that I just recently learned about. Anyone who's been listening

901
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,800
to the show and who knows how I feel politically

902
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,360
knows that the reason, the real reason I'm an independent. Look,

903
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,760
I'm an independent for a couple of reasons. For one thing,

904
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,199
I'm an independent for the same reason that a lot

905
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,760
of people are independent. They don't feel like they fit

906
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,920
into either party. A lot of independence are fiscally conservative

907
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,840
but socially liberal. That's me, So I'm an independent. I

908
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,599
used to be a Democrat. Party moved too far to

909
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:11,519
the left. I'll never be a Republican because they've moved

910
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,159
too far to the right. So I got nowhere to go.

911
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,639
I'm stuck in the middle, so that's where I sit.

912
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,599
I'm a centrist. I'm an independent. But there's another reason

913
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:27,159
I'm an independent at the federal level. And I want

914
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:29,039
to be clear that I'm talking about the federal level

915
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,480
because I've been meeting a lot of people here in

916
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:34,239
New Hampshire. I've been meeting a lot of people who

917
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,480
serve at the state level, who I think are good people.

918
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:45,639
But at the federal level, I despise both parties because

919
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,440
and to longtime listeners of the show, I apologize if

920
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,920
this is redundant, but to people who are new, I

921
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:56,559
have to make this clear, and it relates to what

922
00:49:56,679 --> 00:49:59,559
I'm about to tell you about Herman Kane that you

923
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,920
might not know because the mainstream media isn't going to

924
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:06,400
go out of their way to tell you because in

925
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,239
order for the mainstream media to tell you this, it

926
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,840
would require someone in the mainstream media to commit an

927
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:18,280
actual act of journalism, which so called journalists don't really

928
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,719
like to do. There isn't that much of that I

929
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,239
don't know why we still call them journalists if they

930
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,880
don't actually practice journalism. Maybe we should come up with

931
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,079
some other name for them, like a corporate shill. That

932
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:35,440
might be a good name. Since big media is all

933
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:39,119
owned by the corporations, that's who really controls the message.

934
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:44,039
We shouldn't even call them journalists. Let's just call them shills.

935
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:50,960
But that relates to my issue with Herman Kane, because

936
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:56,840
it turns out Herman Kane is just like everybody else

937
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:01,360
who wants to be present, or who wants to be

938
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:05,360
a United States Senator or a United States congressman, anything

939
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,119
at the federal level, or even governor of a state.

940
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:14,159
My issue, and the reason why I hate all of them,

941
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,840
both Democrats and Republicans at the federal level, is that

942
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,559
they are all bought and paid for. The people who

943
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:26,400
we send to Washington to represent us do not do

944
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:31,559
not really represent us. They represent their donors. And by

945
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:35,039
their donors, I don't mean the person who says, oh,

946
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,320
I want to donate to Mitt Romney's campaign, I'm going

947
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,719
to send in a check for twenty dollars. No, I

948
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,199
mean the big money players, the lobbyists, the special interest groups,

949
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,920
the corporations, the fat cats who really control what's going on.

950
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: When you elect a.

951
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: Particular person to represent you in Washington, you're not really

952
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,079
represent them. I'm sorry, You're not really electing them to

953
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,360
represent you. You are electing them to represent whatever set

954
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,639
of lobbyists and corporate scumbags and big fat cat money

955
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,320
donors and special interest groups, whatever set of those people

956
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,800
you have decided, you have unwittingly decided whatever set of

957
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:29,800
them you want to control the game. They are all

958
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,119
bought and paid for. They do not work for us.

959
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,199
And one of the things that people find so refreshing

960
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:41,199
about Herman Kane is while he's not a Washington insider,

961
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:44,800
he's never even held political office. He was a CEO

962
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:51,280
of a major corporation. He's not a political insider. Well

963
00:52:51,360 --> 00:53:00,960
guess what, Guess what. Guess who is a huge supporter

964
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:05,000
of Herman Kane. The Koke Brothers.

965
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 9: You know who.

966
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: The Koch Brothers are No, not Coke. They have nothing

967
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,840
to do with Coca Cola. The Koch Brothers koc H.

968
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:18,559
I found this out from a friend of mine, so

969
00:53:18,679 --> 00:53:23,239
I did a little research. Turns out it's true. The

970
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,239
Koch brothers are big contributors to Herman Kane. The Koch

971
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,360
Brothers are big contributors to a lot of Republicans. The

972
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:37,039
Koch Brothers practically control the Republican Party financially. Because you

973
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,559
always hear people on the right complaining about people like

974
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:43,199
George Soros, who controls the Democratic Party and has all

975
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,800
this influence and all this money and whatnot. Well, guess

976
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,400
what you got your very own George Soros on the right.

977
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,480
It's the Koch Brothers. If you don't know much about

978
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,920
the Koch Brothers, I suggest you look into it. I'm

979
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,000
not going to get into a big, long explanation because

980
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,039
I want to get to this video clip. And we're

981
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,039
already almost at the end of the show. It's eleven

982
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:06,800
fifty four Eastern. So I'll let you guys go and

983
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,719
do a little bit of research on the Koch Brothers.

984
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,280
I mean, you can find the information easily. Just google

985
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,880
Coke Brothers. You'll see who they donate to, where their

986
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,480
influence lies, who they really control.

987
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,119
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna play this clip for you. This is

988
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:25,719
a clip of Herman Kin.

989
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: Being asked about the Koch Brothers, and my understanding is

990
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,840
he didn't know that a camera was on him while

991
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,760
he was being asked about this. But this is him

992
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:42,119
talking about the Koch brothers and how great they are

993
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,519
and their patriotism and how wonderful they are to the

994
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:48,760
country and all this. This is Herman Kane singing the

995
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,679
praises of these people. And listen to him. Listen to

996
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,400
him talk about the Koch brothers, and then I'll come

997
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,559
back and comment on this immediately afterward.

998
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 15: Kin seems to have come out of nowhere, right. I mean,

999
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,079
here's a guy that not a lot of people knew

1000
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:08,400
about a year ago.

1001
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 14: How did he do it?

1002
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:10,559
Speaker 2: You know?

1003
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 15: And everybody talks about all, well, he's a great speaker, etc.

1004
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,079
There's definitely truth in that, right, but usually on the

1005
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:20,400
Republican side, on both sides, but certainly on the Republican. Well,

1006
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,440
you don't really do this without some sort of money

1007
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,280
backing you up. Well we found out where the money's

1008
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,519
coming from. Prepared to be shocked. Turns out Herman Kin

1009
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:33,320
has been backed by the Koch brothers all along. So

1010
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,239
let me give you a long list of things that

1011
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,679
they of how they backed Herman Kane. Ever since two

1012
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,079
thousand and five, Kin has led the Americans for Prosperity's

1013
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,000
new Prosperity Expansion project. Here's what you get if you

1014
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:49,079
lead a project for the Koch Brothers a lot of money.

1015
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,679
So since five they've been like Herman Kain, you're our guy. Man,

1016
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,719
Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna need you to lead a project. Absolutely,

1017
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,639
here's a lot of cash. And now say whatever the

1018
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:03,960
hell we want you to say, he was, He's got

1019
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,960
a campaign manager and achieve his staff now right of

1020
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:07,480
course for his presidential campaign.

1021
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 14: Where do they come from?

1022
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 15: Well, you look at that. It's Mark Block, who served

1023
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,320
as a president for Americans for Prosperities Wisconsin chapter. In fact,

1024
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,639
he's the one that apparently commissim the run for president

1025
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:20,920
in the first place. Again, Americans for Prosperity totally funded

1026
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,280
by the Koch brothers. So the Coch brothers give Herman

1027
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,519
Kine money, says OZ five. Then they get one of

1028
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,920
their guys to go convince Herman Kane that he should

1029
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,400
run for president because they love his ideas about lower

1030
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,320
taxes for rich people. Shocking enough, And then there's a

1031
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,679
long list. He headlined a Coke backed anti climate rally. Again,

1032
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,119
you get paid for all those speeches Kane attended the

1033
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:43,320
Koch brothers private biennial meeting in Palm Springs where they

1034
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,719
colluded on how to defeat democrats, which is their right.

1035
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,559
But Caine's been with them all along. Kane traveled to

1036
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:51,719
Wisconsin backed by the Cochs to fight the unions. He

1037
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,320
was also a featured speaker at the Coke funded Right

1038
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:57,559
Online conference. Again, every time he speaks, he makes money

1039
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:00,239
from the Koch Brothers, right. So the thing is you

1040
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,480
got to understand about this is that it's not like

1041
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:04,320
they go in two thousand and five into a smoke

1042
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,960
phil room and they say, Herman Kane, I know you

1043
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,679
don't believe any of this, but we need you to

1044
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,119
go out and say all this stuff.

1045
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 14: And we'll pay.

1046
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 15: That's not how it works. The way it works is

1047
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,079
that this is a big, big country. So they scour

1048
00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:17,239
the country for who is someone we can use as

1049
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,039
a puppet as a tool, right, as Phil Davidson would say,

1050
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:23,760
either as a weapon or as a tool, and in

1051
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,280
this case mainly as a tool.

1052
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,199
Speaker 14: Right. And they go, oh, this.

1053
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:29,079
Speaker 15: Herman Kane got He's saying a lot of the NASAs.

1054
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:31,760
We like, Let's pour money into him and rise him up.

1055
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,280
Let's take him from obscurity to make him a national

1056
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,880
figure and if we can't, let's get him a run

1057
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,000
for president. Why do they want to do that, because

1058
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,800
then they feed him this plan which he presents called

1059
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,599
the nine nine nine Economic Plan, which he cuts taxes

1060
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:47,000
to nine percent across the board in all the different categories.

1061
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:50,039
It is estimated that the Koch brothers tax rates would

1062
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:53,840
fall from twenty eight percent to eleven percent. They would

1063
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,159
save billions of dollars if Herman Kane was elected and

1064
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:01,679
put that plan forwards. So now just don't take our

1065
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,320
word for it. Let's listen to Herman Kane. Herman Kane,

1066
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,679
what do you think about the Koch brothers.

1067
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:07,719
Speaker 9: What do you think of David.

1068
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:11,159
Speaker 7: Koch David Coch? Yes, I think David Koke is a

1069
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,599
patriot because David Coke cares about the future of this country.

1070
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,599
His brother, Charles Koch is also a patriot. They care

1071
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,119
about the future of this country.

1072
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,719
Speaker 1: What do you think about the criticism that some on

1073
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,400
the left have levied their way.

1074
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:28,559
Speaker 7: I think they criticize the Koch brothers and what they

1075
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:33,119
do simply because they have no other way to try

1076
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:37,599
and attack them. It is the typical liberal way. I

1077
00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:40,880
get attacked because of my conservative views. They get attacked

1078
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:43,639
because they happen to be rich, and they happen to

1079
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,119
believe in America. They happen to believe in the Constitution,

1080
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:49,519
they believe in a Declaration, they believe in, you know,

1081
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,239
the values of the found and Father. That's why they

1082
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,880
get attacked. That's why they get attacked.

1083
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 15: I love that they get attack. Is there Americans who

1084
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,920
love the Constitution. Yeah, the liberals hate the Constitution. That's

1085
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,199
why they were livid when Bush shredded the Fourth Amendment, right,

1086
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:08,679
and then the different parts that challenged the First Amendment.

1087
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,360
As for a lot of liberals, the number one issue.

1088
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,360
But that's the usual trick. The founding follows are with us, right,

1089
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,119
and then second of all, apparently we attacked them because

1090
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,840
of their conservative views. Well, that's true, because we disagree

1091
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:20,719
with your conservative views.

1092
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:21,559
Speaker 4: What do you want us to do?

1093
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 15: And it's not like conservatives ever attack liberals based on

1094
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,400
their views, right. But my favorite was they attacked them

1095
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,159
because they're rich. We don't mind the Koch brothers being rich.

1096
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:34,079
Steve Jobs was rich, Bill Gates is rich, Warren Buffett

1097
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:36,239
is rich. It ain't about being rich, it's about using

1098
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,599
that wealth to buy the politicians to do crony capitalism

1099
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,039
and make sure that they get all the breaks they get,

1100
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,920
the deregulation, they get the little taxes by buying people

1101
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:48,199
like you. Okay, that's the part we object to. But

1102
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,119
of course, overall, my favorite in that was immediately came

1103
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,440
jump into the defense of the coch They are true patriots,

1104
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:58,679
Charles Cochin, David Cokein giving me so much money and

1105
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,920
put me in this position to be.

1106
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 4: They are pumping.

1107
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:03,679
Speaker 15: I mean, they are awesome because they love freedom in

1108
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:04,360
the Constitution.

1109
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:07,639
Speaker 1: By the way, I must apologize, I I was so

1110
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,960
excited to uh, I was so excited about that to

1111
01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:13,559
play play that Herman Kane stuff. I forgot to tell

1112
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,719
you that the other voice you're hearing in that setting

1113
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,360
up the clip that is, of course Jank Huger from

1114
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,679
The Young Turks And I'm a big, big Jank Huger fan.

1115
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:25,159
Uh the Young Turks dot com if you're interested in

1116
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,199
checking out his show, and he also has a show

1117
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,079
now on Current TV on cable so I haven't seen

1118
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:32,800
his TV show, but I'm a big Jank fan. And

1119
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:36,119
jenk is Is I always say, you know, I hope

1120
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:38,119
I live as long. I hope I live long enough

1121
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:43,000
to someday be as eloquent and uh and smart and

1122
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:46,039
spot on with my analysis of this stuff as jenk is,

1123
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:51,760
because he nailed it, you know, with with his his

1124
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,960
commentary on that clip. And if you see, like I said,

1125
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,320
if you see the video of Herman Kane being asked

1126
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,599
that question, it looks like he he doesn't even know

1127
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:03,559
the camera is there. He doesn't even know he's being recorded.

1128
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,239
But of course, as Jenks pointed out, you know, oh,

1129
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,079
the Koch brothers are patriots and you know this and that,

1130
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:11,719
and liberals attack them for being rich. You know, he's

1131
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,079
playing the class warfare card. Oh, liberals hate rich people,

1132
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,519
just like the Republicans play the class warfare card with Obama.

1133
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,920
Obama just wants to soak the rich because Democrats hate

1134
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,639
rich people. And it's all bullshit and it's tiresome, and

1135
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,679
oh guess.

1136
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: What turns out?

1137
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: Herman Kane is just like everybody else. He's such a

1138
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,519
breath of fresh air on the Republican side, isn't he?

1139
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,079
Speaker 8: Nah?

1140
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:39,079
Speaker 1: You know what, He's just another corporate scumbag bought and

1141
01:01:39,159 --> 01:01:45,119
paid for by big money corporate donors. The people who

1142
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,719
really run this country. The Koch brothers. You've got not

1143
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,960
just the Koch brothers, obviously, there are others on both

1144
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,079
the left and the right. And I'm not just saying

1145
01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:57,880
this to slam the right. On the left, you've also

1146
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,639
got big money, corporate donors who really can things. It's

1147
01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:03,559
not a partisan thing with me. They're all bad. At

1148
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:06,840
the federal level, they are all bad. They are all

1149
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:10,360
bought and paid for. We do not elect them to

1150
01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:14,599
represent us. We elect them to steal from us and

1151
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,760
to go to Washington and collect their money. It's like

1152
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,239
when a few years ago when John Bahner was actually

1153
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,679
this is how arrogant they get about this. If you

1154
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:26,559
didn't hear about this, when John Bayner was actually on

1155
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,320
the floor of the Senate handing checks to other Republican

1156
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:38,800
senators from or i'm sorry, from other Republican congressmen from

1157
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,519
big oil, big oil lobbyists. He was actually in the

1158
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:49,119
open handing out checks on the floor of Congress. That's

1159
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:52,400
how arrogant these people are about it. They're not even

1160
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,920
trying to hide it because they count on the rest

1161
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,679
of us not noticing. Because you know what, most of

1162
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,800
us don't know. Most of us don't notice. That's why

1163
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,239
you hear people say, Oh, I'm gonna vote for Senator

1164
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,519
so and so because I think he really he's a

1165
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:14,000
good Democrat. And you know, Republicans don't have my interest

1166
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:16,559
at heart, but but the Democrats do. They're looking out

1167
01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:18,639
for the little guy. So I'm gonna vote for so

1168
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,519
and so, or I'm gonna vote for for for this

1169
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:28,280
person because he's a good Republican. And these these Democrats,

1170
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,239
they don't have the little guy's interest at heart. But

1171
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:32,960
but the Republicans, they're the party that are looking out

1172
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:38,400
for us. If you're doing that at the federal level,

1173
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,840
I'm sorry, but I don't mean to burst your bubble,

1174
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:44,480
but you're a fool, You're a rube. None of these people,

1175
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,719
Republican or Democrat, have your interest at heart. They don't

1176
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,639
care about you. They don't care about you. John Bayner

1177
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,400
doesn't care about you. Barack Obama doesn't care about you.

1178
01:03:58,119 --> 01:04:03,000
Eric Canter doesn't care about you. Nancy Pelosi doesn't care

1179
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:06,280
about you. None of these people care about you. It's

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all a big scam.

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Speaker 4: And guess what.

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Speaker 1: For all of you who are so excited, enthusiastic about

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Herman Kane guess what, he doesn't give a shit about

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you either.

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Speaker 4: It's all a big scam.

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Speaker 1: As George Carlin said in that clip I played a

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couple of weeks ago. It's just a big club, and

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you and I are not in the club, but they

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let us think that we are, and then they laugh

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at us. They're all laughing at us. Herman Kane, he's

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laughing at all of you who have jumped on the

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Herman Kane bandwagon. You've made him arguably one of the

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front runners for the Republican nomination for president, and somewhere

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right now, Herman Kane is laughing at you because of it.

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So are the Koch brothers. They're all laughing at you.

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They're laughing at us, including me. I kind of thought

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the guy was interesting and kind of different, but then I,

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you know, learned the inevitable truth. They're all the same,

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my friends, they are all the same. We have so much,

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so much more to talk about that I did not

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get to on the live show. So I'm gonna sign off.

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I'm gonna upload the podcast of the live show so

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you can come back and relive the glory anytime you

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want to. And then I'm gonna record my Wednesday podcast

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of the Wednesday edition of Matt connorton Unleashed. Also, please,

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if you want more politics, be sure to also come

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back tomorrow, not just for the express edition of this show,

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but Rock Paper hand Grenades six pm Eastern Time on

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Wednesdays here on ipmnation dot com. Myself and Gary Hopper,

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New Hampshire State Rep. Gary Hopper a Republican who I

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do respect and admire. Gary's a great guy and he's

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introduced me to a lot of great people at the

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state level who I think are honorable and really good people.

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So Rock Paper hand Grenades is a fun show. By

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the way, be sure to go back and listen to

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the audio podcast of last week's show, which is already up,

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because that one got really interesting. The topic was separation

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of church and state, and it got pretty contentious and

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I actually severely pissed off our guest and I'm not

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sorry I did it, but yeah, I got pretty interesting.

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Speaker 4: So check that out.

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Speaker 1: Rock Paper hand Grenades six pm Wednesday is here on

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ipmnation dot com six pm Eastern time. Thank you all

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for being here with me tonight. Thank you DZ the

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gift for calling in. Always a great conversation with DZ

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the Gift. I'm gonna be seeing him on Thursday. I'm

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gonna be in a DVD that he's putting together. He's

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going to interview me about some of my own music

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business activities. So looking forward to that. That's always a

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great time. And I leave you now with another DZ

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the Gift track to wrap up the show. This is

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a favorite of mine. I think this is really good.

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This is called hurt called uh, I can't talk. I

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get all worked up and I start tripping over my tongue.

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This is called Hurting is the name of the track

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from DZ the Gift here on Matt Connorton Unleashed on

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I p M nation dot com. Thanks everybody.

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Speaker 14: I'm anomive and I need.

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Speaker 12: So much.

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Speaker 9: Me to pay.

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Speaker 14: Some change.

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Speaker 3: Sold train last like one niggas in the corner, funny

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trying to let that fast trans life art also white.

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Speaker 14: O the corner Little but it ain't. The flipping birds

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really get at me?

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Speaker 12: I know, and I mean so much guy, huh hey,

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I'm really how people that.

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 5: Why so.

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Speaker 12: Mind?

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Speaker 3: I gotta be getting also talking and the judged don't tolerated.

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So I scrambled everything and sick, ain't light but flix

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my mind on switch ben it bes I gotta make

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given me for my pist get to live, not like me,

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raising a bet society and might beats up.

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Speaker 4: But I got into it because twenty kids in.

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Speaker 3: My I'm short the choice over late. I can't take

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back all the years of paid I gotta review.

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Speaker 4: Sorry from day.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I'm trying.

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Speaker 14: I just know my and the more guy, I'm really.

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Speaker 2: So me me me

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Speaker 14: Ib emission dot com