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Speaker 3: The Raiders have bench quarterback Gardner Minshew for Aidan O'Connell
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Speaker 4: Of the Yeah, you know, like my first video game
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Speaker 2: I played with the Patriots and that's just like how okay,
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Speaker 3: The Saints have announced that rookie Spencer Radler will be
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Speaker 4: I'm excited for that one. I'm not gonna lie. I
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Speaker 4: don't know, isn't he from az too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, yeah, he's from Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's just gonna ask you because you played the cal
Speaker 1: Kelly is the Arizona football it was on a football
Speaker 1: high school football? Is it getting a rep now at
Speaker 1: least like Phoenix that can play? I mean honestly, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely because quarterbacks would coming down.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, because when you when you when you talk
Speaker 4: about high school football, there's Cali, Texas, Georgia, you know,
Speaker 4: all of that, but then when you look at the
Speaker 4: West Coast, it's definitely not As is definitely up there
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the quarterbacks have been pretty pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, Brock Party other guys. Yeah, and not
Speaker 1: He's not like spectacular, but he's a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 2: He's doing the job. Top NFL guy. Aaron Rodgers resent
Speaker 2: the rumor that he had a hand and Robert Sawids
Speaker 2: firing on the Pat macacation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did he have a quote of him saying anything,
Speaker 1: because I don't believe what do you guys think? You
Speaker 1: don't think Aaron had had anything he.
Speaker 3: Had anything to do with He didn't have the final
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Speaker 1: Know of course, now, but hey, but if you want
Speaker 1: us to win the Sea. Yeah, and he's one of
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Speaker 1: course you do that. But if he's not happy, you're
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Speaker 2: And but he's always unhappy. That's the thing.
Speaker 4: Bring DeVante right right, I'm gonna talk.
Speaker 1: You have the eye patch, the eye thing that with
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't f and lose or something like that.
Speaker 2: Give me, I don't always scoring a touchdown all season.
Speaker 1: Right, he says, give me the ball? It was something.
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Speaker 1: are kiss of death.
Speaker 3: Oh no, and uh I think I'm the last play
Speaker 3: that game against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: You like yan Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Guy's face mask, Oh yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 4: You know you heard what the corner said after that.
Speaker 4: They said he said the Steelers, Yeah, they need a
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well let me ask you, because you're you're receiver, you're
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4: I really don't know. I couldn't tell you what they are.
Speaker 4: They are not definitely for sure.
Speaker 1: Give me the damn ball. I could do stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: I get it. You gotta be confident in yourself. But
Speaker 1: there's a point of, you know, making the story about
Speaker 1: you all the time.
Speaker 4: But then if you lose, though, it's like maybe no, yeah,
Speaker 4: I get I get I get it.
Speaker 2: It's not my fault. It's my fault. That's how they are.
Speaker 3: More into the the Dodgers Padres series, there was some
Speaker 3: drama with Manny Machado.
Speaker 2: The Podgers manager.
Speaker 3: Mike schult came to his defense about him firing the
Speaker 3: ball into the Dodgers dugout at.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah video what happened barely like it was a
Speaker 1: soft Yeah, you just he got the ball like the
Speaker 1: pitcher wasn't using it, so he just threw it towards
Speaker 1: like the Dodgers dug out in that.
Speaker 2: Area, And did he go inside the dugout? I don't
Speaker 2: think it went and.
Speaker 3: It Yeah, And then after the game, Dave Roberts, the
Speaker 3: Dodgers manager, kind of came out and like accused him
Speaker 3: of doing it on purpose.
Speaker 2: And then you know, Mike, no, I think they said
Speaker 2: they were like investigating, but they didn't find it. Did
Speaker 2: you see the fight though? I guess when the guy
Speaker 2: cut the ball, cut the home run, cut the.
Speaker 3: Home run, yeah, prof are Yeah, and then that's when
Speaker 3: the Dodgers fans were throwing the stuff back into the sands.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to you know, let's see if
Speaker 4: we need a quarterback this draft where he's our guy.
Speaker 3: You know, we don't know, but I think it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it was the best time to do it,
Speaker 3: but I think you know, see what you got. It's
Speaker 3: okayme My Patriots will reign again. We will come back
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Speaker 1: Okay, hey we got a call, Thanks for calling. You're
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Speaker 6: Thanks Steve.
Speaker 7: This is done.
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Done?
Speaker 2: Much?
Speaker 6: You're feeling younger with all them young guys.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling at least I don't have to come up
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Speaker 6: You gotta be careful though, they make you pay, no,
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Speaker 6: Hey, you know how if if the Padres beat them
Speaker 6: Dodgers tonight, I don't know. We might have to keep
Speaker 6: an eye on our boy, Jay.
Speaker 2: No, I know you're right.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was going to my Facebook memories earlier
Speaker 1: today and this must have been twenty twenty one or nineteen.
Speaker 1: I can't remember when the Dodgers were, you know, heavy
Speaker 1: favorites and they lost and I put that LA might
Speaker 1: burn down because they lost in an upset, big upset,
Speaker 1: And someone says to me, don't worry, LA.
Speaker 2: People don't care about things like this. But the Dodgers do.
Speaker 6: The Dodger fans do, I mean they, I mean they were.
Speaker 6: They're acting horribly to the Padres bullpen and and all
Speaker 6: that stuff when they were playing in LA. And if
Speaker 6: the Padres win tonight, especially if they win tonight, if
Speaker 6: they win this series three games to one, they probably
Speaker 6: changed their name to the Dodger Daddies.
Speaker 2: And I read.
Speaker 6: It's good that Jay's only on once a week because
Speaker 6: there will be nothing but crying till the.
Speaker 8: Spring training starts, because because he.
Speaker 6: Will get to pitch.
Speaker 1: Now yeah oh yeah, yeah true true. Do you think
Speaker 1: that they'll get rid of Roberts? They didn't want it?
Speaker 6: You almost have to you have the roster. You know,
Speaker 6: these ball players at this level, it's not like you're
Speaker 6: coaching them. You're making out the lineup and you're you're
Speaker 6: deciding when to change pitchers. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 6: of guys that can do that. I mean, too bad
Speaker 6: that the Reds already got Frankcona. Had had the Reds
Speaker 6: not came calling, Roberts would be gone and the Dodgers
Speaker 6: would have been hot for Francona.
Speaker 1: Right, No, I think good point. And do you do
Speaker 1: you follow baseball? Do you follow baseball heavily or consistently?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 9: Really?
Speaker 6: Not anymore. I mean they I don't like. I don't
Speaker 6: like the way they play it anymore. They play they
Speaker 6: kind of play baseball during the playoffs a little bit,
Speaker 6: but it's still too much of standing around waiting for
Speaker 6: a guy to hit a home run. And you know,
Speaker 6: that's it's like watching men's tennis. Nobody can play like that, right,
Speaker 6: That's why the women's game, if you want to watch tennis,
Speaker 6: the women's game is a lot more enjoyable because you know,
Speaker 6: it's it's a.
Speaker 2: Lot more human.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like people can play like that, right, Well,
Speaker 6: not very few people, but it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 6: lot easier to watch too well.
Speaker 1: And what I wanted to ask you if you followed it,
Speaker 1: if you followed it, uh, you know, DoD blessed them.
Speaker 2: Terry Francoto and some of.
Speaker 1: The other guys, they're they're kind of older managers who
Speaker 1: are recycled and not that not that disparaged Terry, but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's all the old dudes
Speaker 1: that come back and save programs.
Speaker 2: You don't see any of the up and comers. And
Speaker 2: maybe they are there, but I don't know enough to
Speaker 2: know who they are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not so much in baseball. You know, it's like
Speaker 6: it's like for years in the NFL that used to recycle,
Speaker 6: you know, just wash off the old coach, dry him
Speaker 6: off and then he'd get another job. And now now
Speaker 6: all these teams are going for the hot you know,
Speaker 6: the hot coordinators getting their jobs and the young guys,
Speaker 6: you know, because I think it's more analytical as far
Speaker 6: as that goes, and I think baseball is baseball is
Speaker 6: still another beast, I mean, because everybody's gotten into analytics
Speaker 6: and so now you know, you could get AI to.
Speaker 2: Manage the team.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, these guys belcheck. Will he go to
Speaker 1: the Jets?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so. Herry, Yeah, there's a chance.
Speaker 3: Twenty five years ago he stayed for five days.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 6: I don't think that. If the Jets didn't have Rogers,
Speaker 6: that might be a possibility. If there was somebody else
Speaker 6: at that kind of at that level, a different quarterback,
Speaker 6: he might entertain it if he's itching, but he not.
Speaker 6: He might not, he might not be itching. It's like
Speaker 6: Jimmy Johnson never came back.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and you want to leave on top too?
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Speaker 6: You know right, John Payton's in Denver. You know he was,
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Speaker 1: We have a Rocky the Rose, formerput deputy athletic director.
Speaker 2: How are you, Rocky?
Speaker 9: Hi, I'm doing great.
Speaker 8: Thanks, although this hot weather is doing me.
Speaker 2: Are you in town? Are you in town?
Speaker 16: I am? I am just fairly.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Rocky, let me see.
Speaker 1: I imagine you right now in the Himalayas taking photos
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Speaker 1: great photos that you do and you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about today's day to day of being an athletic director.
Speaker 9: How fun is such a joy? Yeah, and polar Bears
Speaker 9: are what's up next? So you were close cold weather
Speaker 9: so it's coming. But oh yeah, I think that honestly,
Speaker 9: I think of that every single day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's get even you know, we've talked, We've
Speaker 1: had you on the show a lot during this crazy times,
Speaker 1: and it gets even crazier today. There is no are
Speaker 1: they're going to do away with no national letter of intent.
Speaker 2: What's next?
Speaker 14: I know.
Speaker 9: The one I'm just floored over is doing away with
Speaker 9: scholarship counts. Eventually, if this house settlement, you know, finalizes
Speaker 9: and goes through, Uh, they're gonna do away with scholarship
Speaker 9: counts and have roster caps so that everybody then on
Speaker 9: the team can have a full ride, no matter which sport.
Speaker 9: So they're thinking, I heard the already with football.
Speaker 16: You know, we have eighty.
Speaker 9: Five full right scholarships for football. It's going up. It
Speaker 9: would go up to one hundred and five with this
Speaker 9: house settlement and all of them could get full rides.
Speaker 9: And then on top of that, of course, the house
Speaker 9: settlement money where the athletic department can pay the athletes
Speaker 9: for nil directly, you know, up to twenty two million
Speaker 9: per athletic department. So wow, that's that really is startling
Speaker 9: because back in the eighties is when we had one
Speaker 9: hundred and five scholarships for football and then it was
Speaker 9: cut back to eighty five and it's been that way
Speaker 9: since the middle of the eighties. So now turning again,
Speaker 9: we're on a big, a big ferris wheel. We're just
Speaker 9: going round and round and round.
Speaker 1: So these are the times that you probably were thankful
Speaker 1: for a guy named John Parrot who kind of kept
Speaker 1: us under control.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, John and I talked frequently, and actually
Speaker 9: we were you know, we were kind of laughing because we.
Speaker 8: Always we were doomed day all the time.
Speaker 9: You know, that's that was our outlook to make sure
Speaker 9: we stayed you know, we were on budget every year
Speaker 9: thanks to JP and his great accounting ability, and you know,
Speaker 9: now he's in our Hall of Fame, which is just
Speaker 9: really worthy and terrific. But you know, our five year.
Speaker 16: Forecast was always we were going to be.
Speaker 9: In the hole and it was over.
Speaker 8: We're gonna have the closed shop, right right.
Speaker 9: It's just always like that and yet we survived, right,
Speaker 9: we always survived. Something came along and it got better.
Speaker 9: But you know, so I do truly believe if we
Speaker 9: live through this, if athletics include athletics, live through all
Speaker 9: of this, yes.
Speaker 16: Nothing's going to be able to stop it.
Speaker 9: We used to always think there if there would.
Speaker 16: Never be another day, and I don't know now.
Speaker 1: So I have a couple of my interns in and
Speaker 1: Matt had a question and he asked me the question
Speaker 1: why don't you ask you? But and just the nil
Speaker 1: thing that will they continue or will it end?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like how is Matt the answern new intern here? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I owe yeah. Do you think like it's gonna
Speaker 4: get crazy like million, like twenty million per like what
Speaker 4: can a player get that you will see in the future.
Speaker 9: Well, part of the house settlement is first that.
Speaker 8: You know, we're gonna pay back athletes back to twenty.
Speaker 9: Sixteen, and there's like four hundred thousand of them that
Speaker 9: can file a claim for part of the two point
Speaker 9: eight billion dollars and each one of the universities will
Speaker 9: have to take a chunk of that two point eight
Speaker 9: million dollars. It'll come out of their payouts from the NCAA.
Speaker 9: Then on top of that, they're going to allow athletic
Speaker 9: departments to pay up to twenty two percent of their
Speaker 9: revenue back to athletes every year, which with a cap
Speaker 9: on that.
Speaker 8: Of twenty two million. Now, how they're going to determine who.
Speaker 9: Gets that money and how it's split amongst all the athletes,
Speaker 9: that's yet to be determined. But the second step to
Speaker 9: that is that nils are outside collectives to outside entities,
Speaker 9: let's say, outside of the university. Can still provide nil money,
Speaker 9: but it's going to be highly monitored unlike it is
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 8: In other words, it's going to have to be for
Speaker 8: market value. It's going to have to be not.
Speaker 16: For pay for play. Now, how they decern that, don't
Speaker 16: ask me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I have no idea, but I do think it'll
Speaker 8: slow that down.
Speaker 4: So I guess what I was trying to get at
Speaker 4: was like, for example, our football team, McMillan and Noah, like,
Speaker 4: do you ever see them getting like what ten million?
Speaker 9: Because you know, well, no, I don't. Do I see
Speaker 9: them getting a lot more money? Absolutely absolutely, And I'm
Speaker 9: happy for that because the athletes are the core.
Speaker 2: Of what we do.
Speaker 9: But do I see that I'm not sure, just because
Speaker 9: of what I just stated with the House Settlement limiting
Speaker 9: the departments to twenty two million and then now limiting
Speaker 9: outside entities to certain factors.
Speaker 16: I don't see that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 16: Does that mean stuff happens under.
Speaker 9: The table or there a way to produce a market
Speaker 9: value of ten million dollars for somebody? Possibly?
Speaker 16: Nothing would surprise me.
Speaker 1: So back in the day, and you were my go
Speaker 1: to person because well you just were for the like raids.
Speaker 1: The APR is a APR APR and just you know,
Speaker 1: people got in trouble. Uh you know, I'd go to
Speaker 1: Jim too, of course some other people, but but those
Speaker 1: seems so long. So that was the biggest struggle. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's like, holy crap, you g's who my neighbor is
Speaker 1: up in the foot hills.
Speaker 2: It's not it.
Speaker 16: Does.
Speaker 9: It makes me kind of giggle because it looks back.
Speaker 9: It's like we were babies back then.
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you This is a dumb question, but you know
Speaker 2: that's what I'm about. Uh.
Speaker 1: I know you have a great life. You're a great photographer,
Speaker 1: and who knew that that was in you?
Speaker 2: So word? Did you always know that?
Speaker 1: But let's get to that in a sec Uh do
Speaker 1: you kind of reminisce with John or even the gym?
Speaker 1: I sorry, can you hear me better?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you're when you're out with.
Speaker 1: The guy Jim and John or whomever, uh, even and
Speaker 1: your husband, do you kind of talk about stuff where
Speaker 1: now I just lost my train of thought, where oh
Speaker 1: that this is this is solvable and this is how
Speaker 1: you would do it? Or is it going to be
Speaker 1: not solvable?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly where we go with this. But yeah,
Speaker 9: it's it's yeah, that's exactly where we go. I can't
Speaker 9: even imagine right now. Uh, you know what Desiree has
Speaker 9: in front of her, what the athletic department has in
Speaker 9: front of them, you know, coming off of COVID debt
Speaker 9: and now facing a house.
Speaker 8: Settlement at twenty two million and.
Speaker 9: Two point eight part of the two point eight million,
Speaker 9: and you know, and then now these roster caps are
Speaker 9: all in. The scholarships are going to go away, but
Speaker 9: these rosters are going to expand exponentially, and you know,
Speaker 9: the scheduling costs alone for the Big twelve. You know,
Speaker 9: the schedules aren't even finalized yet for this year. So
Speaker 9: how do you how do you produce a budget when
Speaker 9: you don't even know where your softball team is going
Speaker 9: to be flying to or your baseball team. You know,
Speaker 9: at this point, it's it's going to take years to
Speaker 9: shake this out, you know, with the new conference costs
Speaker 9: and new scheduling and all the back debt and everything.
Speaker 2: Just years.
Speaker 1: I should know this question, and I hope you do
Speaker 1: so now. Now in a couple of years, when the
Speaker 1: schools are going to get twenty million dollars to spend
Speaker 1: on the kids, where the kids are going to get
Speaker 1: You're talking Title nine. So if UA has five hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty kids, are they all going to get the
Speaker 1: same amount?
Speaker 16: Well, that's to be determined.
Speaker 9: You know. I think I can't imagine that. I think
Speaker 9: it's going to have to be based on marketability and
Speaker 9: how they define that.
Speaker 2: Good luck, right, good luck right?
Speaker 9: I mean, because I mean think.
Speaker 8: Back at some of our outstanding athletes, you know, back
Speaker 8: in the day.
Speaker 16: I mean, I think it's obvious to you know, put.
Speaker 8: Something high amount on Sean Elliott, for instance, but.
Speaker 9: Then you had Jenny Finch, had Jenny Finch. It's very marketable,
Speaker 9: and you know, we have the same level of athletes
Speaker 9: right now at the University of Arizona. So how you
Speaker 9: determine that marketability and they're value of their nil that's
Speaker 9: going to take some bigger brains than.
Speaker 16: I have right now.
Speaker 2: Well, let me see by the way.
Speaker 9: That twenty two million comes out of their budgets. See,
Speaker 9: you're not getting that from somebody.
Speaker 16: I was just telling the budget.
Speaker 1: I was just telling the guys here, you already have
Speaker 1: no money in the pockets. How are you going to
Speaker 1: come up with the twenty two million when you have
Speaker 1: no money in the pockets.
Speaker 2: That's it. Let me go back to you.
Speaker 1: Let me go to your example with Sean and to Jenny. Well,
Speaker 1: little Rocky the Rose who works your butt off just
Speaker 1: as hard as everybody else is going to get pittance.
Speaker 16: Yeah, good point.
Speaker 1: I mean you're working just as hard as them. Maybe
Speaker 1: you not have the same talent, right, but you're there
Speaker 1: every day. You don't miss practice, you're not sitting because
Speaker 1: of an injury.
Speaker 2: What about me?
Speaker 9: I know, well, you know that's been the argument is.
Speaker 9: I think all the psychologists out there, sports psychologists in particular,
Speaker 9: are watching this very closely to see the team dynamics
Speaker 9: that happens when one player gets you know, exponentially more
Speaker 9: money than the other than some other player who's working
Speaker 9: just as.
Speaker 16: Hard, right, And how that's gonna work?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, when.
Speaker 1: All this popped up two three years ago, and I
Speaker 1: thought this was gonna happen, and well, I didn't know
Speaker 1: how it was gonna happen. But okay, so the kids
Speaker 1: are gonna get money for more power to them to
Speaker 1: deserve it, you know, making me five ten thousand dollars whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, okay, and let's say, Kadeen, I'll bring
Speaker 1: you Kadeen Carry, Kadeen Carry, or that great running back
Speaker 1: gets a lot of the money fifty thousand. But I'm
Speaker 1: the center, and I'm the tackle that helps him, creates,
Speaker 1: creates holes for him. And I'm getting five, five, six thousand.
Speaker 1: Well what the hell he would be doing this if
Speaker 1: I wasn't opening holes for him.
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh. That so reminds me of one of
Speaker 9: our football players who just passed away.
Speaker 16: He played with the.
Speaker 9: Cactus comment remember, yes, of course, and he always said, Hey, I.
Speaker 16: Was the wing back.
Speaker 9: I'm the one that opened all the holes for him.
Speaker 9: Why didn't I get pressed?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 9: Think about that? That was the nineteen what sixties? Yes, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm glad I'm not the person making those decisions, right,
Speaker 9: I'm not, And I know I know, you know they're
Speaker 9: going to have to do this too with that two
Speaker 9: point eight billion dollars. You know, they're looking back at
Speaker 9: four hundred thousand athletes if they all file claims and
Speaker 9: are going to try to figure out values. I read
Speaker 9: though somewhere that there is one athlete that they've already identified.
Speaker 9: It's not football, not men's or women's basketball, but they
Speaker 9: value already at that athlete.
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's male or female. Getting one
Speaker 8: point eight five million dollars.
Speaker 9: Wow wow, Yeah, a single athlete out of that two
Speaker 9: point eight billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow wow.
Speaker 9: So somebody's already in their calculating values.
Speaker 1: And where's that money coming from. Where's that money coming from?
Speaker 9: Well, it comes from the NCAAA television package money, and
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 16: They distribute that.
Speaker 9: That's why we're members of the NCAAA. We share that
Speaker 9: money so art and every year they send us a check,
Speaker 9: Well that will come out of that check, so we'll
Speaker 9: get less money because the two point eight billion dollars
Speaker 9: is going to come off the top. So uh yeah.
Speaker 9: So that's a cut on top of all this other
Speaker 9: uh you know, money management you're trying to do. And
Speaker 9: then did you read about Reggie book trying to eat filing?
Speaker 9: Oh right, right, yeah, so let's yeah, let's go back now,
Speaker 9: all the way back to two thousand, right.
Speaker 1: Right, and and we but wink wink, he didn't get
Speaker 1: paid right right right right Greek. So so we had
Speaker 1: Jim on maybe a week or so ago, and he's
Speaker 1: fantastic because you know, and I said, Jim, okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a young Rocky of the Rose or
Speaker 1: Jim and Jim living Good and you and you wanted
Speaker 1: to be you know, you're you're nineteen eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: You want to go to school and become the current Rocky?
Speaker 1: Who you who's an A D. Would you want to
Speaker 1: go back and become the ad given all the stuff
Speaker 1: that you have to you with?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 16: Absolutely not.
Speaker 9: And that's what worries me about the profession is what
Speaker 9: kind of people are we going to get that are
Speaker 9: going to attempt to.
Speaker 2: Come into this.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously they're risk takers, they're you know, they're willing,
Speaker 9: uh you know, so, but I first of all, I
Speaker 9: just I can't imagine surviving. And it's not the administrators,
Speaker 9: honestly that I'm worried about.
Speaker 2: It's the coaches. Yeah, the coaches.
Speaker 9: They're having to start over every single year because kids
Speaker 9: are going into transfer portals, they're getting offered more money
Speaker 9: somewhere else. They have no idea.
Speaker 16: I heard at one of the.
Speaker 8: Bowl games this year both coaches, not not the one
Speaker 8: we were in, but both coaches were standing out in
Speaker 8: the hallway before the game trying to talk kids into.
Speaker 9: Not entering transferable and trying to come up with nil money.
Speaker 2: I could I could see that. I can see.
Speaker 1: Well, then you saw the the kids in Vegas, right,
Speaker 1: I'm three, and oh now I'm gone holding people hostage
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.
Speaker 9: So honestly, it's the coaches. I just I mean, you
Speaker 9: don't want coaches that are just in it for the money,
Speaker 9: you know, to make millions of dollars. There's still got
Speaker 9: to be a philosophical, you know, part of.
Speaker 16: You that wants to, as we always say, grow young men.
Speaker 14: And women, you know.
Speaker 16: And but man, I would never.
Speaker 8: Take on that challenge, right.
Speaker 16: That worries me more.
Speaker 9: I think administrations, Yeah, it's a challenge, and it's risk
Speaker 9: taking and sure you know you have a little more control,
Speaker 9: but coaches have no control at the point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wanted to ask you a question about the
Speaker 1: transfer Oh yeah, yeah, so I have a question with
Speaker 1: all this NIO you know and transfer portal, some schools
Speaker 1: still have like on campus football traves. Does that go
Speaker 1: through you, as like the ad of the sports department? Like,
Speaker 1: does that go through you if a school wants to
Speaker 1: hold football chios or basketball childs for the school.
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, yeah, you broke up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Does the school have what like for example, let's say
Speaker 4: school wants to hold football childs or basketball childs. Does
Speaker 4: that go through you to get it to make it happen?
Speaker 4: If that makes sense.
Speaker 16: For the nil?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, just for.
Speaker 1: Just for college students, because so you being the ad
Speaker 1: and the tryouts if like if fish or somebody wanted
Speaker 1: to have tryouts to get some more players on walk
Speaker 1: ons otherwise, do they have to go through you to
Speaker 1: get approval to do it?
Speaker 8: Oh? Uh no, as long as they're within their roster limits.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's based on just the coaches and the
Speaker 4: coach the football team.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's up to it's up to the coaches.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's up to the coaches.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 16: When I was there, we had roster limits.
Speaker 9: I don't know if they still do they still do okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: so as long as they have roster limits, yeah, they
Speaker 9: can go out and have tryouts on their own. Yep,
Speaker 9: we don't.
Speaker 8: We don't micromanage it to that level.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Okay, so I bought up
Speaker 1: your fantastic photography, did you did you know you always
Speaker 1: had this in you or just you picked up a
Speaker 1: camera when you left and you said, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 9: I always loved photography, but I never really took it
Speaker 9: seriously till after I retired.
Speaker 16: But I will say this, I.
Speaker 9: Really got I got into it when I was traveling
Speaker 9: with teams and you know, we were let's just pat
Speaker 9: ourselves on the back. We were very successful.
Speaker 8: In the nineties and two thousands, and we won.
Speaker 16: Twenty one national championships.
Speaker 9: Most practically every year, all of our teams were in postseason,
Speaker 9: and either Jim or I or Greg and I or
Speaker 9: you know, said and I we would we would either
Speaker 9: split them up or we always were at postseason because
Speaker 9: that was important to be there and to travel with
Speaker 9: the teams. I preferred to not really sit in the
Speaker 9: stands because just because you get nervous and stuff. And
Speaker 9: then we had no photographers. Back then, we had no
Speaker 9: reason to. There was no social media. We didn't need
Speaker 9: videos to post every five minutes, you know, on social media.
Speaker 9: So but the athletes would say, hey, would you take
Speaker 9: my picture? And we would be there sometimes. You know,
Speaker 9: our second home was in Oklahoma City, but we would
Speaker 9: be there for two weeks. True, So I just I'd
Speaker 9: rent my own car and take off and explore and
Speaker 9: take my camera with me. And then, you know, I
Speaker 9: would even take pictures down all of our national championships
Speaker 9: in softball. I think those photos are all mine. I
Speaker 9: would run down there when we won and you know,
Speaker 9: take pictures of the celebrations and all of that. So yeah,
Speaker 9: I always had I always.
Speaker 8: I always enjoyed photography. But now it's my second act.
Speaker 9: Everybody could follow me. I'm on Instagram.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell them photography can how can they
Speaker 1: follow you on Instagram?
Speaker 2: And are the photos that you get?
Speaker 1: And I've inquired about this because you took some fantastic
Speaker 1: photos of the of the fire three or four years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh ye, so how can they follow you on Instagram?
Speaker 1: And are your photos for sale?
Speaker 14: Oh?
Speaker 9: They are if you go to Instagram. There's a a website.
Speaker 8: I'm with Madera's Gallery, the Number one gallery.
Speaker 9: Yeah and yeah, so there's some photos that are available
Speaker 9: now for printing that are on the Madera's Gallery website.
Speaker 9: So yeah, and but you know I say that, but
Speaker 9: you know, I'm just doing it for the love and
Speaker 9: I love the adventure and exploring. And I better see
Speaker 9: some baby polar Bears next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's funny.
Speaker 9: I think think that vision vision baby polar Bears for me.
Speaker 1: And had you not had I not known you got hacked,
Speaker 1: I was ready to buy ten T shirts for my.
Speaker 8: Family with my name on them, like I would sell
Speaker 8: T shirts with my name on him.
Speaker 2: That was funny.
Speaker 9: I just like, I just love somebody's one comment though,
Speaker 9: who said, just think of the nil money you could
Speaker 9: make that?
Speaker 1: Right, finally, right, finally, a little little Rocky the roses
Speaker 1: paid off. Both Rocky, thanks thanks for talking to us
Speaker 1: and giving us some insight about the chaos that goes
Speaker 1: on at oh athletic departments.
Speaker 16: You're so welcome.
Speaker 9: Love your show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, appreciate you.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, take care.
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to U on the ball here Pop
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve here with me handsome hit
Speaker 1: with Henry that you did a pretty good job. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you first time out our Willow. Would you grace there, Henry?
Speaker 1: He did, Okay, yeah, he wasn't too needy from you.
Speaker 1: It wasn't too some little yeah, more than what I well,
Speaker 1: there's his first second list.
Speaker 2: I know. It's cool. Did you learn anything from Brookie? Definitely?
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: These guys are making a ton of money, especially in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and they might have to pay some guys
Speaker 1: before that.
Speaker 2: I wonder what, like the old big players we get
Speaker 2: like Reggie Bush.
Speaker 1: Kind of like oh yeah, yeah, it's the bibbies, the
Speaker 1: bibbies and in those dudes, you know.
Speaker 4: I wonder how college athletes feel about the NCAA like today.
Speaker 1: From back in the day or not like college athletes today, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what do you mean what they do?
Speaker 4: You know, just like do they feel like there's still
Speaker 4: because you know how back in the day they felt
Speaker 4: like NCAA was taking advantage.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh no, no, it's the opposite.
Speaker 1: Now they're thanking God that this is happening, because dude,
Speaker 1: they're making something.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you.
Speaker 4: Know what a couple of for sure, no for sure
Speaker 4: know but and I'm sure you could tell stories like
Speaker 4: I said, man, Walkin's getting fifty k, So like, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: they're making more money than people with at like actual
Speaker 4: carriers than this is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: No question, no question, it's a blessed.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they deserve it because bro, they
Speaker 4: got to wake up at five thirty at They don't
Speaker 4: have a life, so it makes sense.
Speaker 1: But it's a tough life. But no one's also holding
Speaker 1: the gun to their head to make it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna get paid at this stevel you're eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: twenty years old.
Speaker 2: It's a blessing. How much money I would say, Well,
Speaker 2: if you didn't play that.
Speaker 1: Damn okay, yeah right right, but you have more to expense,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, I know that's my problem too, But I select,
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Speaker 1: visit us tomorrow at Del Soul. We're looking forward to
Speaker 1: that our first adventure out there, and then in two
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Speaker 1: two shows out in Delco in the month. So should
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Speaker 1: it should be a lot of fun to come and
Speaker 1: see us. Anything else, guys, football, basketball? What about basketball?
Speaker 1: Back to the back to the thing. So I was
Speaker 1: talking about Caleb Love like he couldn't be the fourth
Speaker 1: best NBA dude prospect, and I respect.
Speaker 2: They haven't mad fifth on this team, got on the team.
Speaker 2: On the team. So we have Carter Bryant, Crevass, Bradley.
Speaker 1: kJ and Bradley's ahead of kJ.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Bradley is about six foot maybe maybe, And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure he's an NBA guy.
Speaker 2: He's got to become a better shooter. Got to be
Speaker 2: a better shooter. Uh. And Caleb Love? Did they just score?
Speaker 2: What happened? Not? Nothing? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: And Caleb Love, I don't know. The thing is he's
Speaker 1: back for a reason. Mm hmmm, because he uh they
Speaker 1: told him go back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised he did.
Speaker 4: He didn't get a combine invite, right, Ronnie James got one.
Speaker 4: I mean I get it, but still bro like, yeah, well,
Speaker 4: how old are you? You about two years.
Speaker 2: Twenty one?
Speaker 4: No, Bronnie's one year younger than men. Did you see
Speaker 4: him play back in Uh oh yeah, because he went
Speaker 4: to see her Kanyan. Actually no, I did it.
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 4: But fun fact, I had lebron come in my high
Speaker 4: school because we played Bronnie's teammates.
Speaker 2: So that was a cool experience. Before covered all that
Speaker 2: I was. It was.
Speaker 4: It was honestly one of the best times of my life.
Speaker 4: It was really short life. I lived, you know, twenty one,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was. It was very fun lebron Yeah,
Speaker 4: his wife was there. Uh. Dun Levy was there when
Speaker 4: he was on the Lakers. Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 4: were there.
Speaker 2: It was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 4: And we beat the team they played too. So yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 4: where'd you play, uh, Pallis Shart High School. I didn't
Speaker 4: play on the basketball team, but you played on Mikey Williams.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys do, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and we beat him. So yeah, shout out place.
Speaker 1: A nice nice Okay again, if you want to call
Speaker 1: five two o four one six, seventy four, forty appreciate
Speaker 1: a call.
Speaker 2: See what you have to say, Nico.
Speaker 1: I know you try to call a couple of days, right,
Speaker 1: did he try.
Speaker 2: To go and we had we had the phone lines packed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if Niko, if you want to fill in
Speaker 1: and give us a quick call, see what's up with
Speaker 1: you and talk about football, talk about basketball.
Speaker 2: Basketball is here in two weeks. I think the first game,
Speaker 2: the twenty first, twenty first, ten days in nine days,
Speaker 2: ten days, something like that. Yeah, that's excited.
Speaker 1: Uh no, you know why. It's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: very good game. And this is what I do kind
Speaker 1: of long term cover the basketball team.
Speaker 2: And it's busy.
Speaker 1: He's really busy, and you'd be really among my other jobs,
Speaker 1: this job and another one.
Speaker 2: You have no time, you have no time. You go
Speaker 2: and you sleep and go and you sleep and you
Speaker 2: go and sleep. In fact, I've never been to a car.
Speaker 2: I've never been to a game to just watch them basketball.
Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna be you're not. You don't have a
Speaker 1: ticket package, I don't know. And you still get tickets.
Speaker 1: How does that work you?
Speaker 3: I mean you could buy tickets or an individual game, students,
Speaker 3: I don't think you can buy for individual game you
Speaker 3: just have to get the past and you can go
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 4: Know, you definitely could get tickets like individual games. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, that's I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've I really don't. You foot it's pretty good. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it definitely is.
Speaker 2: I watch them. I watched them, that's for sure. I like,
Speaker 2: definitely watch you and.
Speaker 1: You don't know what they're none of your friends that
Speaker 1: you don't know? The guys, no, no, I don't you
Speaker 1: know of the football guys. Yeah, yeah, okay with two
Speaker 1: different cats, two different different team guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the women.
Speaker 1: You have never been to the women's Nah? I never
Speaker 1: been to the women's No, because you know what you
Speaker 1: did even say that with no excitement? What? Nah?
Speaker 3: I actually do want to go to one. I just haven't.
Speaker 3: I gotta find someone to go with. I don't really
Speaker 3: want to go along we go together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good. They're good.
Speaker 4: I actually ran into that's one of the girl. I
Speaker 4: forgot her name, but I ran over to one of
Speaker 4: the girls. Is it Jada Williams? Yeah, yes, yeah, she
Speaker 4: was cool.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good. Yeah, they're good. So I'll definitely I
Speaker 4: will try to go to both games this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it looks like you might be both. You
Speaker 1: guys might be with me another semester. I don't know
Speaker 1: bout Henry. Yeah, another Henry coming back. Henry's coming back
Speaker 1: for another year, declaring him right now, okay, and you
Speaker 1: need it for the grade, right right, No, you don't
Speaker 1: need it for the grade.
Speaker 2: You're just gonna You're trying to learn for the credit,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to learn.
Speaker 8: I saw you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this might help you. This might help you definitely.
Speaker 1: So one last time, we got about five minutes, so
Speaker 1: we can just get a phone call in or if
Speaker 1: you want, five two o four one six, seventy four forty.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: What's the score of the game just started? Its still
Speaker 2: zero zero? Yeah with this is the Dodgers, Now this
Speaker 2: is the Yankees. What's the Dodger scorer? Six? Yeah, six six?
Speaker 1: So a lot of sports going on right now, football,
Speaker 1: basketball and all that. All right, I'm not just throwing anything.
Speaker 1: I know that the u A leaves Friday to Provo.
Speaker 1: It's going to be packed. Have you you know the
Speaker 1: funny thing about us something people say a rag on
Speaker 1: the on the fans, but you've seen the fans at Utah.
Speaker 1: You've seen the fans at Provo, You've seen the fans
Speaker 1: at Kansas State, and don't you guys wish because you
Speaker 1: guys are in the mix that there was when the
Speaker 1: fans were like that just kind of rabbit.
Speaker 2: Basketball. I like kind of kind of kind of ye,
Speaker 2: we're more of a basketball So yeah, so will makes
Speaker 2: sense for that and not for football. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see because they're crazy in basketball too. I
Speaker 1: think that you don't have any problems with how you're
Speaker 1: situated in the seats because there's a lot of because
Speaker 1: the students are where they are and the rest of
Speaker 1: the people are.
Speaker 4: I like it like that, Okay, yeah, go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just wondering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about allsport. Boxing's fine Tyson and what's
Speaker 1: his name? Although that's not really possible, Paul, What do
Speaker 1: you guys think about that? When's id like next month?
Speaker 2: I want I want Tyson to win.
Speaker 1: If they're gonna fight, I think he may have like
Speaker 1: a heart attack, myth fight.
Speaker 2: Really my old dudes to have heart attacks.
Speaker 4: Okay, I apologize, I apologize, but like I don't know,
Speaker 4: man so old, like.
Speaker 2: He's only fifty something, right, fifty two. Maybe that's all.
Speaker 2: That's all, man.
Speaker 1: We have this discussion Jay and I because we have
Speaker 1: you guys in the every now. So what's old to you?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, what's old to you? Old is anything
Speaker 1: over forty? How old is your parents? My mom's fifty seven?
Speaker 1: Is she old?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, she is very old. She looks young. She
Speaker 2: looks young though, very old. You're around the phone. I
Speaker 2: want to talk to you. Oh okay, okay, yeah, but Henry,
Speaker 2: what's the question. What's old? Oh you've already asked me this.
Speaker 2: I said, uh, sixty, yeah, I think she said older
Speaker 2: than that. Okay, what sixty? Hold are you? So I'm
Speaker 2: sixty sixty.
Speaker 1: And I'm old. My probably is I'm old, and I
Speaker 1: don't want I'm stuck in my waist. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't learn what you guys learn, because I just want
Speaker 1: to know. Although when I have to learn it, if
Speaker 1: you're good and be gone for a while and Jay's gone,
Speaker 1: I don't know what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: But old? It's not old? Is old? I'm I like
Speaker 2: tripping for thinking forties old? Yes?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, you're not You're halfway there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I know, I don't even consider myself
Speaker 4: a young man anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, I think this is like the prime year
Speaker 2: is the time you.
Speaker 1: Got to you know, yeah, prime year is your best
Speaker 1: times are in your thirties. You're you know, you have
Speaker 1: your stuff together, you have a job, You have a job.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have a family, you have a family.
Speaker 1: But if you don't, you have money to yourself. You
Speaker 1: can do whatever you're damn please, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: sway you with the family or no family. But you'll
Speaker 1: have money, you'll have a job, you'll be comfortable, you
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Maybe have a how I enjoy your life?
Speaker 1: You know when you're forty, when you're old, uh, your
Speaker 1: when you have you have other stuff to worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, right.
Speaker 4: Exactly when you're forty you have kids. Once you have kids,
Speaker 4: to me, it changes, Yeah, it changes.
Speaker 1: I remember stuff until I didn't have kids, and then
Speaker 1: I have kids, I don't remember. Okay, we're ready, you got,
Speaker 1: we got forty one, we got you have time, I think, right,
Speaker 1: I think it's fifty five. No, no, we have plenty
Speaker 1: of times that it's fifty four. Fifty four. Oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we're almost there. Bro.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, good job, thank you. How do you guys
Speaker 4: think that the honest opinion?
Speaker 2: Good? Yeah, you're good. Well.
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that you were paying attention back there
Speaker 1: when you were in the house.
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was paying attention. But then
Speaker 2: once you're on the thing, it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to answers when you don't know you
Speaker 1: know the answers, but you're in the in the booth.
Speaker 2: So Jay, if you were listening, forgive me if I
Speaker 2: made any mistakes. No, you're good.
Speaker 1: Now you have another job. You have to put the
Speaker 1: podcast right, which is great. That's the most important thing
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, thanks, thanks for coming in. We'll see
Speaker 1: you Monday, right yeah, okay great, maybe after win, maybe not,
Speaker 1: hopefully