Speaker 1: S s.
Speaker 2: Dire Wave three.
Speaker 3: The arts reflect the soul. The spirit of the architecture
reflects the soul the spirit, and so therefore you can
see the degeneracy. You can see the degradation and the
loss of aesthetics, the loss of the idea of there
being harmony, order symmetry in esthetics. It's connected with the
loss of a coherent and philosophy.
Speaker 1: This this this this this, this this this this this
this this this.
Speaker 2: Is dire Wave three.
Speaker 4: Yeah. There we have now now we can have yeah,
now there we have now there through.
Speaker 3: Through all Right, maybe we make this work again if
I can get them fools back on the screen. Welcome back, everybody.
We're gonna try again.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 3: Look at them boys up there. That's a letter con
r there. They're like a letracon. Where were we in
a world where trailers become reality like storms? Turn off
the Wi Fi? Part two? Yeah, well, I don't know.
I think for rock fan, I'll splice those two together,
because I was having fun in the first thirty minutes
there before we got rudely interrupted by Father lightning and
mother thunderstorm. And I remember too, I forgot to talk
about this A couple streams ago Jamie Gabby as a joke.
The CIA Manual trickery interception. So now via going to
borders books and finding this borders that don't exist, no
more Barnes and Noble, the CIA Manual. Now we know everything.
So we have the CIA's official manual from Barns and
Nobles about trickery interception. But the reason this is funny
is because it talks about there's a chapter in here
about hiring the CIA hiring magician, right like stage magicians
like John mcholland. John m'holland was a stage magic Joe
Bluth basically teaching people, teaching the CIA tricks of the trade,
sleight of hand, David Koppa Feel Kappa feel get it?
David Kappa feel was a CIA Do you know that
just joking, that's a joke. Harry Houdini was a spy
though I believe he was a spy for Scotland yard
is that right? If I remember mine Harry Houdini history,
the Final Kiptain Letter, Remember Joe's theme song? What were
we talking about? The courier. The courier Benedicte cover bats
involved in the illegal mustache trade with the Russians before
we were rudely interrupted by Gaya. So this deals with
the story of Western recruit Old Legg Pinkowski, as we said,
who was the KGB or shoot me, the Russian g
r U, Russian military intelligence guy who is recruited supposedly
because in the movie they make him a hero because
he is worried about the West being nuked. But if
you watch the documentaries on his real story, it was
because he was mad that he didn't get enough awards.
So he wasn't very happy with his Soviet awards. He
didn't get enough badges and medals, so he wanted to
do damage. And of course that's a typical kind of
a recruitment thing where they look for anger at your
home nation, anger at your sliding, being slighted in the
military or in your profession, whatever it is, and so
that becomes a weak point for you, that becomes a
point of a pressure point. And we'll see that in
the movie Mobius as well, which we're going to cover
after this. As we said, four different films tonight, one
of them a documentary, and this dealt with the recruitment
not just of Olid Pinkowski, but the British liquor swilling
businessman Greville Win. What more British name could you come
up with than Greville? It goes grevill Winden, right, And
as we saw in my rock Fin discussion of the
Cambridge spy ring, quite a few of those uh no
slow boys skittles boy boys over there, and worse, they
ended up defecting Philby and a couple of several of them,
I think it just died drunken their Moscow apartments. So
they basically got awarded Moscow apartments and they just drank
themselves to death. So there's a reason for this though,
because the spy trade typically when it comes to this
kind of stuff, compromising people secrets and whatnot, well you
can imagine getting people all soused up on the sauce. Well,
it's a good way to get people to start talking,
because everybody who starts drinking get they drank on. Everybody
starts drinking scissor up, they start spilling the beans, They
blow the beans, they start blowing the beans. And if
you're buzzed and you're blowing the beans, you start bragging, right,
You're very likely to spill state secrets. So clearly, obviously
alcohol plays a big role, as does other types of drugging,
getting people ready to get, getting people all randy, getting
them frisky. Perhaps that might play a role. And one
of our films tonight has the character of a honey trap,
the Swallow, although it's unclear exactly whether she was that
not exactly sure. And Mobius if the French CIA girl
French American CIA girl, if she's supposed to be seducing him,
but I think she doesn't know, right, aren't we supposed
to think that she doesn't know that he was Russian
intelligence at the end. And FSB But it's a little
unclear anyway. But back to the Courier. So all of these,
as we said tonight, they're gonna have a similar theme
of fitting into the notion of not just that old
canard of can you serve the state and keep that
on the down low as you juggle your home life,
as you juggle your domestic mundane activities, and the yapping
of a wife who doesn't trust you and doesn't understand
that you're saving the West, you're saving us from nukes.
We're all gonna get nuked. If grebel Wynn hadn't been
drinking with the Russian generals, that's what we're supposed to
think anyway. So the public story that everybody got was
Khrushchev and the Cuban missile crisis. Are you know, the
nukes are at the back door, right, They're in the backyard.
They're about to just start flying from Castro's cube over there.
And of course I agree with the analysis that a
lot of this was all exaggerated. And the story that
we have here, this hero story, is that if it
weren't for Grevil Wynn and Olegg Pankowski, we would not
in the West have known exactly the capabilities of the
surface to air missiles that the Russians the Soviets possessed,
and exactly how the systems work in Cuba. So they
had the U two spy plane that went over, not
Bono's utube, but the U two spy plane, which I
think U two is named after. That, isn't it where
they see the Soviet sam sites and they saw one
in Cuba, but they didn't know how they worked. So
Olegg comes in, because supposedly the story is in heroic fashion,
he took pictures the manuals, the boring ass tech manuals
with his little slide sixties camera and pass that on
underneath them mustache of Benedict, Cucumber Snatch and the CIA
m I six Handlers Save the West. Okay, so that's
the story that we're supposed to believe, according to the
mainstream narrative, according to this movie from nineteen sixty, right
before the Cuban missile crisis. Right, so we'll look at
a little bit of this. I was like, where's that
chick from? Oh, she's the one from from Men. I
didn't really care for Men. I'm sorry. A lot of
people say, we're gonna analyze men dudes giving birth to
other dudes who give birth to other dudes. Spoiler alert,
just blew it up for you, just spoil that whole movie.
But what was what was this supposed to be some
sort of bizarre feminist message I don't even understand. I mean,
X Mashina, Okay, that was good, But what in the
heck is men? About the whole village. There's a bunch
of evil patriarchy oppressors who oppress this woman for no
reason because they're just evil patriarch And that's just what
patriarchs do, is they just the evil patriarchy lives to
do nothing but oppress the women NonStop. And turns out
it's like some weird the green Man pops up and
there's dudes that just give birth the dudes. I mean what,
And I'm sure there's some philosophical message that I don't get,
but whatever, dude, I didn't care for men.
Speaker 5: And so uh, here we have the strdgy of British
folkal that is studge It studge It.
Speaker 3: Studgy, British intelligence folks recruiting. Benedict cucumber mustache, Benedict cumber mustache,
cumber Stash, Benedict cumber Stash. And that's the guy who
plays old Egg. Here's German General g r U Buddy
and he's boring old businessman and they're like, you're we
need you to put this recorder on your tie clip
and get us the secrets that he's up to and
transfer us the documents and the the microfilm and the
blah blah blahlah blah. And you can imagine what happens.
And of course they all get caught and his punishment
is two years in the gulag and his wife visits him.
I don't know how they would let his wife come
visit him in a Russian gulag. I don't believe that
that is what It doesn't make any sense. And then
they let him out, so I think we can look
and see probably a the real guy. I mean, he
kind of looks like the real guy. I watched this today,
which was pretty good going into the background of it,
but that little video explains that it was here. Here's
the video at the end of the movie, they show
lets see if we can make this one work. But
uh yeah, I mean again, as we said, these anti
the anti Russian stuff comes out right now, and and
that's clearly part of propaganda. It's part of the geopolitical
agenda right now.
Speaker 4: In prison.
Speaker 3: So this is the real guy that Benedict cumber Stash
cucumber Stash is playing. And this is after he's let
loose from the East German Stasi prison. I guess that's
more believable because it wasn't a Russian prison, right it
was East German. So maybe it's believable that his wife
could come visit him in the East German prison. But
he doesn't look to punished and malnourished there like in
the In the film Benedict cucumber Snatch turns into like
Christian Bale in the Machinists, Like he goes straight up
like Aids. You know what I'm saying. He turns into
like a turns into like a just a skinny old thing.
Speaker 6: Not at this stage, gentlemen, they treated me in the
way that they talked about things. Is this a prison
haircut is their interpretation of the haircut.
Speaker 7: But it goes a little.
Speaker 4: Less than as he is.
Speaker 3: Now, When did you.
Speaker 6: First in fact, they shaved heads, when to shave my hip?
Speaker 8: When did you first know you were coming home this winter?
Speaker 6: Well, this is the same question. You see, I didn't
know until officially I was coming home, until it until
I was taken from this place in its brilliant this morning,
this morning, this morning, extremely this morning at four o'clock.
Speaker 3: A lot of people. He does seem a little disoriented.
So all right, so you know that's the real guy
that's in this They played this clip at the end
of the film. But the most relevant thing here was
that this is a timely piece of propaganda that that
came out in twenty twenty one, probably in anticipation of
the things that we've seen in the last couple of years,
especially the events in the Ukraine. So you get this
never ending sort of cycle of the Russian threat film.
And you know, they never ceased to turn these out.
In fact, as I was pointing out in part one,
before the internet cut out, they were even making like
clancy movies about the IRA remember that. And I actually
found a couple of other spy movies that were forgotten
about the secret Iris Republican Army terish that are supposedly
gonna infiltrate and take downical saying, I mean, this is
just ridiculous, right. But the main point here is that
if you watch the document the little documentary clip here,
it points out that what we see in most people's analysis,
which is that it was exaggerated. The Soviet capabilities were exaggerated.
They have some CIA guy in here and being like, yeah,
we thought that they had on a scale of power
they had a ten, and he said, turns out it
was more like a five or six. But they wanted
that hyped up, as we know from the whim Hoff book,
to get the Cold War continued to keep it going, right,
So this is sixty two or so Cuban missile crisis period.
I forget the exact when does wim Hoff say cold
War kicks off like exactly forty eight to fifty two.
I forget the exact year that that he cites the
National Security memoranda that really kicks off supposedly the technical
Cold War. But the point is that they wanted this continued,
continued on to continue, going all the way up until
what eighty eight, eighty nine to ninety ninety one, because
I think if the Soviet in my view, if the
Soviet Experiment as they called it, had been successful, I
suspected they probably would have just gone with the Third
Way model, because they were really pushing the really hardcore
globalists at that time in the CFR, in those entities,
they were pushing for what they called the Third Way,
which is the synthesis between Eastern Bloc communism and Western capitalism.
So that didn't exactly happen, That's not exactly what they got. However,
what we are getting now with Great Reset is essentially
that it's basically a version of a morphed version of
what the Third Way was supposed to be. Right, and
that's why people get confused and they can't figure out
what's going on in the nWo and they're still caught
up in their Republican democrat dialectic because they can't figure
out that the right wing or think it's the comedies
and the socialists, right, and then the libtards think that
it's what corporate ely corporations you take. But now, of
course they actually like the corporation. So corporations are cool
according to the left because of you know, skittles or whatever.
So just brand it right, and it doesn't matter what
your policies are, even even though the left, like literally
five years prior, hated corporations, right, Fortune one hundred like
the enemies. Now they're all cool though, So no problems there.
Everything's good. We're all good to go. Fortune one hundred bros.
Everything's cool anyway. So long story short, gravel when it
really is a master stroke of propaganda in a way,
because the idea being this normal, boring business man right
forward of the West, and what better hero than a
businessman right to represent the West thwarted the evil machinations
of the statist Soviet monsters of the yeast. Now again,
I'm not saying that the Soviets are good guys, right,
but that's not the that's not the point. The point
is that the narrative of grebel Wynd is clearly a
stroke of propaganda. I mean, who actually believes that this
bumbling businessman right who basically can't I mean, his marriage
is basically falling apart. He seems to be an alcoholic basically,
but somehow the fate of the Western world is upon
his shoulders and he powered.
Speaker 5: He powers through what old British resolve, He powers through
what stodgy British resolve.
Speaker 3: Here powers through and saves the day with that ridiculous mustache.
So from a fictional movie perspective, it's not a bad movie.
It's pretty pretty fun. The art direction is really well done.
It definitely feels like it's the early sixties, and they
accurately capture the spirit of the British studginess.
Speaker 5: There is stodgy, there is dodgy. Quite a bit dodgy,
you say, I do say quite stodgy and dodgy. You'll
say it, Jamie, could you bring me a glass of water?
Speaker 3: Impersonating stodgy British men has made me cough a lot.
And as I was pointing out, if you want a
deeper analysis into this, then you go over to my
rock fin and you watch the Occult Spies lecture where
we got into the Cambridge five really deep. We got
really deep into the Cambridge spy ring and how that
also touched on the Occult. One of the films that
we watched tonight touched on the Occult and I didn't
expect it at all. Spy who came in from the
colt That was weird, right, the Occult bookstore as a
front interesting. So we'll get to that in a second.
But I did want to mention, thank you. The Brits
are attacking me because of my impressions. Yeah, heah, attack
this man with nanopollans. How dah he? How dare he
call a stogie? Make him call for right now? I
wanted was there anything else? I wanted to get to
play a little bit of this clip about Olegg and
you'll see my point.
Speaker 9: As the Cold War intensified through the nineteen fifties, pressure
on the CIA increased. The West was desperate for detail
about the size and strength of Soviet forces glimpsed and
photographed at Moscow air shows or May Day parades. It
was the Soviet missile force which worried the CIA most
and about which they knew the least.
Speaker 10: This photograph was taken and the hosts kipping had a
bit in London in April nineteen sixty one after one
of our meetings, where Pankoshkian left meander right enjoying a
small glass of wine.
Speaker 3: So that's the real Olegg there. This is a CIA contact,
not the gravel wind Benedict character.
Speaker 9: Pankowski provided further reassurances about the limitations of Soviet power.
Speaker 10: Well, there were still a serious threat, no question about it.
They were strong militarily, absolutely strong militarily, but they were
not as strong as our estimators had felt, and he
helped us bring it down to the level where they
really were. They were not ten feet tall. They were
about my size ship for two.
Speaker 3: So as you can see, as this is pointed out
by a lot of people, quickly points this out that
the threat was exaggerated. It was exaggerated by the Cold
warriors for the purpose of the Cold War. And one
of the other films I think, yeah that the Colby
documentary brings up in the American Century right, Henry Loose
Sculling Bones is propaganda, pr selling of the terminology the
American Century right. That was all part of Henry loose
Is propaganda, and that was a big conglomeration on the
part of Rockefeller Foundation, their control of the WASP world
and the utilization of Vatican Two in the Roman Catholic
Church to make it into basically an NGO for Americanism,
and that was a big piece of understanding Vatican Two.
If you don't understand that, you really can't understand the
totality of Vatican Two. And I could. I was surprised,
in fact, two different people had said watch this Colby
documentary because it really backs up a lot of what
you talk about, well backs up what Wimhoff talks about
right in his books, and that's the geopolitical espionage angle.
That you can't understand these elements without right. I mean
you could if you if you're a sperg and you're
a theology nerd, you think all of this is just about, uh,
you know, getting the precise theology right. That's not what
all this is about.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: The world is bigger than that. I think in the
big picture, that's ultimately what matters. But it's sort of
like in the Doune novel, we have this principle that
I'm getting at at work there where most of the
people engaged in the espionage and the courtly intrigue. They
don't believe the prophecies. They don't believe the prophecies about
the quisas hot Rock. They just think it's ways to
manipulate the population on the part of the state, the Harconans, right,
the Emperor, the witch Guild of Benny Jesuits. They see
Paul and the whole prophecy about Paul as just some
tool to manipulate. It's just a way to control people.
And that's fitting because a lot of people think of
religion that way, right, especially people in the State. The
attitude of the state towards religion is how is this
useful for power politics? They don't care about whether it's
true or false. In fact, I'm sure most of them
think that it's false. So they're not idealistic. And we're
gonna find Richard Burton, in an excellent line from The
spoy Came from the Cold explaining this attitude of the
state to espionage, to spycraft into what that really is
and how people are sold on this ridiculous, romantic notion
of basically a job that is like a cop turning
people into confidential informants. That's all it is. Okay, it's
just co opting people into confidential informant work on a
macro scale, that's it. So it's not that glamorous. Right,
we're not talking about James Bond. We're talking about I
don't know, what's some stupid ass cop drama. Right, that's
much more realistic, right, where the cops are trying to
get somebody to be their ci Okay, that's what's really
going on here. But this is an important angle. Just
think about all of the sexual issues in the Roman
Catholic church. Okay, not all of it, but a big
part of that. What do you think that is? What
are other operations where we might have seen something like that?
Jeff Stein McAffrey, what is that? Well, that's blackmail. You
don't think high profile cardinals popes should be perhaps blackmailed? Well,
if you're thinking on the vantage point of power politics,
duh did? What did you think? Right? And we saw
again multiple situations in my long Cambridge spy Ring where
we also covered Robert Maxwell's just Lane's dad. We covered
Victor Child remember that, and other characters that Antony Sutton
speaks about in his works. People quickly tell about who
were kind of above. They were sort of a strata
above the Cold War dialectic, because in the Cold War dialectic,
people bought into the idea of where the good guys
are the bad guys at the side. So where the
good guys are the bad guys. And it's true that
Bolshevism and Communism and Sovietism are inherently atheistic. But is
the Western monopoly capitalist system any less atheistic? I'm not
sure it is. Maybe at one point you can make
this argument. I don't know. I didn't live I live
part of my life in the Cold War when I
was a kid, But I just don't know that with
what we've seen the fortune one hundred slash five hundred
roll out globally, that there really is any difference at
the top. And I think that's the main point here.
So you know, they they found the pressure point with
Pankowski that apparently he was bitter about not getting enough
medals and badges hanging off of his suit or whatever,
and so he was a pressure point, a node, a
choke point by which they could supposedly get the manuals
that told the West how the SAMs worked. That's at
least the public story that we have with this. But
in my analysis, you know, really this is just a
timely piece of propaganda that comes out so decent as
a film worth watching, but not anything really spectacular or
particularly insightful. However, I will point out that it is
fairly common that you find people recruited to do this
kind of stuff that you wouldn't expect. So that is
something that the film gives us an insight into. That
is a real world thing where you know, people who
you wouldn't think our spies are clearly obviously recruited. I
have old intelligence textbooks that I bought that talk about
that right to talk about instructions giving to people who
are learning tradecraft, that it might be beneficial for you
to recruit an academic, You might want to recruit a CEO,
you might want to recruit a bell hop. Okay, if
you read Gordon Thomas's books, you'll find out that pretty sure,
in the case of Henri Paul and a bell hop,
that played a pretty significant role in the Diana incident.
At least that's what Gordon Thomas records in one of
his books that has a significant chapter on Diana and
why might a bell hop be an important person. Well, obviously,
if you wanted to run some kind of operation, a
bell hop will be a perfect person to let you
know when they've checked in and when they've checked out,
or when they've left to go to the evening event
to drive in the underpass where that A S S
A S S I N A T I O want
in took place? Duh? I mean, who actually believes that
it was just a random accident? I mean really? And
also in the case of the suspicious passing of whim Colby,
I mean, so he's an accomplished sailor and he just
floats off one night and watches it, watched the body
washes up. I'm not I don't buy that. And he's
an interesting, complicated character, and I hadn't really paid much
attention to Kolby. We'll get to the Kobe documentary a second,
but next it's called The Man, The Man Nobody Knew.
I do recommend watching it because it does really vindicate
a lot of the analysis of especially wim Hoff, and
a lot of what we talked about too. But before
we do that, I wanted to cover Mobius, which is
the Jean Dodunjardinjardunjardin, Tim Roth film, independent film. I think
it's either a French or Belgian movie. I can't remember,
but uh again, something kind of a little closer to
reality when it comes to the world of espionage as
opposed to you know, James Bond and so you know,
in the last stream, I think we did a couple
of Lacara. We did Philip Simour hopkins last movie, Most
Wanted Man, and that's a Lacare story, and we did
one of his other ones. I forget what. I didn't
care for that new one with you McGregor, and I
think it was very good. It was pretty boring. And
this is in the same vein right, I mean, I
don't remember. This is foreign directors, but it's a more
accurate portrayal of what actually goes on in this domain.
And going back and watching this since it I watched
it when it came out, and I remember being sort
of fascinated with us. It was a really well made
spy film. But now knowing a lot of what I
know about that time period in about the two thousands,
early in middle two thousands and what went on with
Russian the oligarch. Shall we say that actually is a
big part of this movie, and the tim Roth character
is there is a Russian oligarch. Russian oligarch, right, I
didn't even notice that? Like it, that's all like really obvious.
Now going back and watching this and if you've not
seen this, I do recommend this movie. I'll put the
trailer for you and if you have seen it, maybe
you can help me understand. I don't understand if the
blonde chick was Was she a swallow? I mean, the
CIA said her mission was to embed her in the
circles of FSB and then to recruit an FSB handler
to be a spy for the CIA, But it's un
I mean, I'm guessing that at the end she's crying
because she didn't know who the handler was and who
they were really after? Is that what we're supposed to think?
And then she's crying because it ends up being him?
But how was that not obvious?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Who did she? Didn't she right away think he was
Russian intelligence? I mean, and he was like no, I'm
a publisher, come on. I mean, so that was always
unclear about I can't understand how she didn't know that
he was behind that he was running this operation. But
I think that's what we're supposed to think. And so
she didn't know, then she wasn't a swallow. But if
she did know, then she was a honey trap. And right,
I mean I thought America has always trying to project
the image, Oh, we don't do that, right, Russians do
the sexpionage. We don't do that, We would never do that. Really,
come on, who believes that? So Monica looks pretty badass?
I mean if that, I mean Monica looks like basically
like europe Florida. Right, European Florida. That's pretty it's pretty sweet.
I'll take that. And so here you have showing obviously
he's Russian intelligence. He's going to with his team try
to go after the Russian oligard character. Right, So tim Rof,
the Russian oligard character, has enemies in the Kremlin who
want to go after him and boot him, and he'll
have to go stay in the UK. Well, this is
more or less based in reality. This is kind of
what happened. This is a big part of why there's
tension between oligarchs who left Russia to go to the
UK and vlad so some curious sort of real world
stuff going on there, and so we think for at
least the first portion of the film that this is
ultimately about the CIA blonde girl recruit going after the
Tim Rowth character as well, because she her legend, her
cover is that she committed derivatives financial scam crimes and
so she can't come back to the US, so she
has to work in a foreign bank, you know, trading
basically and trying to do swing trades or something. Anyway,
that's not what she's up to. Obviously, she's CIA. And
though she ends up being the honey track for the
Jean dou Jardine character, whether she intended or not, I'm
not sure. But his boss, the FSB guy who wants
to be the head of the FSB, his boss keeps
telling him she is a honeytrap. She is the problem.
Don't stop seeing her, and he can't resist because she
plays him perfectly, and he ends up the whole operation
gets compromised. Basically, well, the operation actually ends up being success,
but he ends up compromised. He ends up having to
work for the CIA, He gets turned, he gets flipped,
and they poison her, which was surprised. I've forgotten about that. Uh,
I mean the whole The most revealing scene in the
film is when he shows up to the dinner and
she's there, and so he's been deceive. But it's kind
of funny because you know, how did he not see this?
Like it was so obvious that she was a spy?
I mean, it's right, but I think again, everybody loves
this dynamic in the spy films. It's like it's like
the angry chief in a cop film, right, Like, you
can't have a cop movie without an angry chief yelling
and cussing, right, and give me your badge, right, turn
it in, give me your gun and your badge. Never
have a cop film without that, right. Well, in the
same way you can have a spy film where like
the spy isn't blinded by the love of his love
interests versus his country.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: This is just classic but really really should have been
pretty obvious. But maybe we think he did know, right,
Maybe he did know deep down that he was making
a mistake. But he wants out right, just like again
another spy movie trope. He wants out. They keep pulling
me back in, right, like Michael Corleone, Right every time
I try to get out, they keep pulling me back in.
Remember that dude. That dude was like the He was
on top for a while, Jean de Jardins with the artist,
and then he just kind of disappeared, Like whatever happened
to that dude? Where's he at? He won? He won
the oscar for the artist and he was like the
coolest dude, and then he I guess he went back
to France. I don't know, but anyway, but that's uh, essentially,
that's the essence of that film. I don't think I can.
There's a couple of interesting symbolic elements that I noticed
this time watching it that I didn't catch the first time,
which was it moves from Club Destiny to Club Apocalypse.
Did you notice the bars that they go to, And
there's a weird twist where it's sort of like at
Club Destiny they're getting along when he meets her and
she's starting to seduce him, and he tells her, you know,
I went out of this life. I want to go
do something different. Let's run away to Canada, Let's run
away to wherever, and she remarks about his destiny and
then he says, I know a better borrow, let's go
to a club Apocalypse, so you should have stayed in
Club Destiny. I don't know why he wanted to move
to Club Apocalypse, but they moved to Club Apocalypse, and
that's where everything goes downhill. Things get worse and worse
and worse. We even have the bad guys explaining about
the blond CIA agent that she's a sneaky bitch. Right,
the head of security for tim Roff is suspicious of
her and says she's a sneaky bitch, and she is. However,
this ends up with her being poisoned. If you remember,
she ends up poisoned. Her real name, according to her
CIA handle is Alice Alice in Wonderland mind Control, and
her whole mission was again to infiltrate Russian intelligence and
to flip Jean Doujardine, which she does. So overall really
good film, fairly realistic spy world, portrayal Russian oligarchs, c
I a f SB again. It kind of ends up
being a sort of a propagandist type of movie because
Jean Jardine has to become CIA to find his way home, right,
so he he's flipped by the CIA. Doesn't really like it,
but there's redemption at the end for him because when
he goes to meet her in the hospital after she's
been poisoned, she's brain damaged, but she recognizes his big
strong arms. That was a little cheesy. I would have
preferred a less cheeseball ending for the movie. Either she
should have died and he gets out of the life,
or they run away. That would have even been better
than this cheeseball thing where she feels his arms and
that triggers her memory to come back. I mean, this
is just corny. So why do you want to have
such a realistic spy film and then this cornball element.
I don't know, but it is what it is. It
is worth watching decent spy film. I think you would
enjoy it. By the way, it was tim Roth that
poisoned her, right, which is interesting because I'm pretty sure
probably Russian oligarks do poison people. So the media tells
us that Russian intelligence is running around poisoning everybody. I'm
not sure about that. I think it's probably other intelligence
agency's running around doing this and saying right that the
Russians are doing everything, And is she the honey trap?
Can has anybody seen this movie, Can you enlighten me?
I can't figure out if she is the honey trap.
I mean when Tim Roff has her poison and he's like,
you know, kill the whore, all right, so he seemed
to think she was, but it was it was hard
to say. All right, let's move on to our next
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What's more interesting? I mean, so only two hundred people
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YouTube watch valsh Elmo? What else is there to watch? Well,
at least we have over two hundred people who have
high IQs who want to learn real stuff and not
mouth breathing, drooling, tard level stuff with everyone else. But
the spy you came in from the cold? Interesting? Another
in the George Smiley series, although Smiley doesn't play a
central role here, it's sort of characters in the orbit
of George Smiley, the Lacar, a character clearly based on
him to some degree, who then must interact with again
East Germans. So more of is the is Gentleman spy
and that not the NA but now the Stazi's East
German Stazi. And we get some fascinating R. A, C.
Speaker 4: I A L.
Speaker 3: Jokes and interplay going on in this that probably would
not be allowed nowadays. Of course, he's just writing about
the realities of Cold War espionage, and we find a
rivalry between a how should we say it, a certain
character and a German character. And so this is an
extremely intricate plot. We know in most of the spy
films that we cover there's really intricate plots, and here
we have Richard Burton playing a British intelligent agent, intelligence
agent who is stationed in East Germany and is running
a guy in Shumi station and he's in West German.
He's running an agent in East Germany who tries to
come across the wall and is shot, and he shot
because his opposite for the East German Stasi, Munt caw
Munt is the most cunning of the East German Stasi,
and he spoiled his agent and operation. And so Richard
Burton is burnt out and depressed and heads back to
his handler and says, he's foiled us again. What can
we do? And some British intelligence comes up with a
plot to get back at Munt, because how Munt is
too clever? How do we stop Camunt? And so they
devise a clever plot, which actually it's a super clever
It's a sixty six D chess. Right, this is the
kind of plot that people and the Q crap thought
Trump was up to. Right, this is what they thought
was going on. Right, dimension of chest, It's gonna be wonderful.
Speaker 4: Really, it's great.
Speaker 3: It's awesome. Swendy for the sixty sixty dimensions and playing
the U right when it was more like three point
five D chess being played, right, not sixty six. Well,
here it's actual sixty six dimensional chess being played. And
the plot is let's see if we can summarize it,
boil it down. So they're going to play on the
fact that they lost their agent and that Richard Burton
is depressed and beaten and so they reassign him in
a communist hot spot at an occult bookstore. However, his
drunken depression binge burnt out persona is a legend itself,
the legend being the story that's concocted. He's not actually
that he is still working in his position.
Speaker 4: We think.
Speaker 3: To now infiltrate under this clever legend as a burnt
out angry at his own government guy who's now going
to be a librarian and an occult bookstore. Now this
isn't really they don't go into this in the story
very much. I've not read this book, by the way.
I read a different I read the book that's the
basis for Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy. I read that Lakari book.
I haven't read this one. So I've only seen this movie.
But so I don't know if it goes into anymore
in the in the book, but in the movie it's
said to be a bookstore for the Society for Psychical Research.
And if you're remember in quickly quickly talks about how
the British elite, the aristocracy, royal society asked or Cliveden
set they were really into this too. Well, this is
fascinating because the Bolsheviks were really into these things. So
you had this weird confluence of people that we covered
with the talk that we did on Nicholas roar Rick, Wallace, Bolshevism,
Gleb Boky, Madam Blovatski of the all of those occult Bolshevis.
And then we also have this high level British establishment
crew that are also into the same occult stuff. And
some of them thought that the Society for Psychical Research
and Mentalism would be the religion of the New Age. Right.
That was an odd thing that we saw in Quigley. Right,
I was surprised to see him saying that they thought
that would that that's what would be the religion of
the New Age. Even one of them mentioned Christian science
being the possible New Age religion, which is wacky, goofy stuff.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: But in this film, the bookstore, the Society for Psychical Research,
it's it's a hotbed of commies, right. And so Richard
Burton is then tasked with seducing Nan. And Nan is
really the outer orbit of East German Communists Soviets.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: She's a member of the party, but she's the lowest
kind of street level dupe who is idealistic and actually
believes in the cause, right, And so when they as
soon as they meet and they have their little you know,
dinner drinking dalliance, like, he's already laughing at her because
she actually believes the ideology of the Soviets, and she's
into disarmament. She has these big posters up and she's
talking about disarmament and how she actually thinks that the
Soviets are going to rid the world of nukes and
bring about peace and make an end to war, which
is odd because the whole idea of Sovietism Marxism is
perpetual struggle, perpetual strife, perpetual war. So but apparently, I
think what we're supposed to think is that the Soviets
had done a significant job in foreign operations and convincing
the target populations that they were peace movements, right, So
they were funding peace movements, funding a lot of the
leftist causes, and this convinced Nan as this sort of young,
idealistic character to go along. But now she's a tool.
She's a pawn for Richard Burton to seduce her, and
he is a kind of a as they call it,
a raven So a guy who seduces women in espionage
as a raven. The girls a swallow, so he's a
kind of a raven here, and he seduces Nan, but
Nan isn't really She's obviously not a target. She doesn't
know anything. Nan is merely a means to the next
person who approaches him after hanging out with Nan and says, hey,
you're a drunk ex soldier, you know, government employee. We
have a charity network that we want to set you
up with. And he's also a skittles man, so we
find out that. Again more realism comes in because many
of these Soviet spies, especially in Victor Child's network, we're
skittles men. And that's partly how they were controlled and
handled and run because their vices allowed them to be
controlled at that time, especially right I'm saying allowed to
be controlled because that was considered illegal at least at
that time publicly. And my allergies are going nuts, dude.
Once it rains, Paul and BOYD comes out and then
I can't. I can barely function anyway. So this is
really intricate plot. So I had to explain all this.
So then uh, he moves from the skittles dude to
the next guy who sets him up with a meeting
with Karamunt and Karamuntz underling, the the Jewish guy, I
don't remember his name, but British intelligence has figured out
that because the underling to Munt is a Jewish guy,
because Mount was formerly part of the inn Asi youth,
there's a rivalry there and the Jewish KGB guy would
like to unseat Kermunt, who is now East German Stasi,
and so British intelligence play and they cook up this
extremely elaborate plot where Richard Burton appears to be defecting
or aiding the KGB and he's ready to sell state secrets.
He's ready to give over all this information for a price,
so he really plays up what the KGB would perceive
the bourgeoisie trader to be. Right, all they want is money,
they will only take. All they want is better money. Well,
this is all a ruse by British intelligence and Cadamount
figures all this out, but the KGB are stuck in
this position then when they'll have to choose between Caramunt
and the Jewish KGB officer East German Sasey, who wants
to get rid of Munt, and so then we have
the famous courtroom scene, and this is one of the
best scenes in the film, although John Leacare said it
was really ridiculous and exaggerated, like the show trial. So
it's an interesting show trial but not realistic. He says,
they wouldn't have really done it that way. And it
all comes down, of course to the Actually it's very
hitchcock esque. It's a very Hitchcockian scene where in the
show trial Richard Burton is there and they bring in
their surprise witness, who is Nan, right, his girlfriend, Nan
doesn't know why she's there, and they ask her, does
Richard Burton know a guy named George Smiley? And she's
like yeah, right, And this of course gives away the
fact that Richard Burton is not who he claimed to be.
He was not actually there to sell state secrets, but
that he had a covert operation which was to unseat
and destroy Mount, and the plot involved the accusation that
Mount was a British intelligence agent and this is what
the Jewish Stasi agent had covered to try to get
rid of Munt. Then final reveal, big plot twist, turns
out guess what Richard Burton was used and was lied
to by British intelligence because Hadamunt actually was a British
intelligence spy the whole time and that had been hidden
from him. And at the end burnt out, betrayed and
unhappy with his own masters and unwilling to defect to
the East Room and Stazzy, and then losing his girlfriend
who is caught up in this. And by the way,
his handlers had promised him that his girlfriend would not
be hurt because she was just an idealistic dupe. She
ends up shot trying to cross the wall, and then
he's frozen there between the wall in a very symbolic scene.
As he's climbing over the easter German, Stazzi are telling
him go back right, the British are telling him, come on,
hurry up, and he's just frozen there. And then he
decides to go to get back on the easter German's
side and be shot. And the reason for this is
because there is a scene. Let me see, if I
gotta find the right scene, there's this specific I think
it's this car scene.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 3: This is the most revealing scene in the movie that
tells us really what I don't think this is actually
is this?
Speaker 1: This is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the reality of this whole thing, this
whole point of it right here?
Speaker 11: How big does it course have to be before you
kill your friends?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's not it. The car scene is the most
important scene, right, That's what I'm trying to play. I
thought that was it. Let's say if you can find
that clerk, because maybe that says a yeah, good waiting here?
Speaker 6: Why didn't want let me go?
Speaker 1: I'm a risk to him?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 7: As you said, it was a bargain.
Speaker 8: Oh you know me, what was my part in all this?
Speaker 12: I want to know.
Speaker 7: You were appalling in the plot. London knew it was
no good just killing.
Speaker 3: Feedler, pawing the plot.
Speaker 7: He killed people who just started asking about Oh why
maybe told friends perspected? Maybe eleven notes, incriminating notes. Love
had to eliminate suspicion, public rehabilitation. That's what they organized, Vermont.
I was sent to discredit him. He was sent to
discredit me.
Speaker 11: And Love.
Speaker 3: We made it very easy for them. They used us.
Speaker 7: They cheated us both because it was necessary. Fiedler was
nearly home already. It hadn't been for us would have
been killed. They were bloody clever all the way down
the line. They were bloody, clever.
Speaker 9: Clever, they were foul.
Speaker 11: How can you turn the world upside down?
Speaker 9: What rules are you playing?
Speaker 11: There's only one rule, expediency. Mount gives London what it needs.
So Fiedla dies and Mount lives. It was a foul,
foul operation, but it paid off.
Speaker 4: Who for.
Speaker 11: What the hell do you think spies are moral philosophers
measuring everything they do against the word of.
Speaker 3: God or God? Where do you think spies are moral
philosophers measuring everything they do against the words of God
or Karl Marx?
Speaker 11: They're not just a bunch of CDs squalid.
Speaker 3: Bustards, CDs CD squalid bastards, drunkard skills men husbands?
Speaker 11: Is it like monks in the sale? Balancing right against wrong?
Yesterday I would have killed and an enemy, but not today.
Today is evil and my friend London needs him. They
need him so that the great moronic messes you admire
so much can sleep soundly in their flea bitten beds again.
They need him for the safety of old may crummy
people like you and me?
Speaker 4: You killed?
Speaker 11: How big does the cause have to be before you
kill your friends?
Speaker 12: What about your party?
Speaker 11: There's a few million bodies on that path.
Speaker 3: And so there you go the classic scene from that
movie where Richard Burton really gives the essence of the
spy trade away. What's it really about. It's really about
betraying people. It's really about expediency, it's about uh control.
There's a similar scene in the village, right the global village.
In the village, do you remember that scene? And I'm
assuming the prison because the whole thing that number six
has to figure out is that there's not two sides.
There's one side. Here you go, there are no words,
and really, I mean again, I can't stress that enough
that the great reset all of this really shows that
this was a dialectic, was it not.
Speaker 7: Has it ever occurred to you that you're just as
much a prisoner as I, my dear, Yeah.
Speaker 12: Of course I knew too much where both lifers. I
am definitely an optimist. That's why it doesn't matter who
number one is. It doesn't matter which side runs the village.
Speaker 7: It's run by one side or the other.
Speaker 12: Certainly, but both sides are becoming identical. What in fact
is being created an international community, a perfect blueprint for
world order. In the sides there you go, suddenly realize
that they're looking into a mirror. They will see that
this is happening.
Speaker 3: As the village.
Speaker 12: That is my hope for sure.
Speaker 7: I'd like to put the first man on the moon.
Speaker 3: There you go. It is the whole world as one
global order, both sides East and West coming together in
the Hegelian synthesis, and between six and number one, or
excuse me, number two and number one, six number six
is number one. Spoiler. Uh, you have this, this key
conversation in the show where they have met, that both
of the sides look at each other and they find
that they're saying the same things. That's the whole point, right,
The goal of both monopoly capitalism and top down communism
is the same. Does it matter whether it's Stalin and
the whole country is a corporation or whether it's Ceo
Demarca Zuckerberg and the whole country is a corporation. I mean,
what's the big difference? What's the real difference there other
than like one works more efficient maybe? And what did
Richard Burton say? Efficiency? And so again? The prisoner another
classic element of espionage science fiction dystopia telling you everything
about how the world really works right there, and so
everybody's still buying into I mean, keep in mind that
all of the high in the hysteria that we deal
with in the last year, the last few months, this
is all extension of Cold War. So I want to
add to a little bit of a promo here, guys
that we do have an excellent debate challenge that Sarapham
Hamilton released today against not just this Hamza dude, but
also against anybody from his Den says Den and you
have Dawa or any of these characters. And so I
did want to promote this because we wanted this to
kind of get out there. So here is the debate challenge.
I told Lewis I would promote this. Here's the debate
challenge that Hamilton gives. Hi.
Speaker 13: My name is Sarah and Hamilton. I have a master's
degree in Early Christian Studies from the University of Notre
Dame and a Master of Theology from Duke University. I've
been doing apologetics in some capacity for about fifteen years
and I have a channel of about eight and a
half thousand subscribers. In the past I've debated on various topics.
Shaver A Lei, Matt slick Swansana and Samy's Asia.
Speaker 14: But it seems that the stories that the kron selects
are ones that are available to Muhammad and the early Muslims,
and that very strongly indicates, I think, human authorship by
fallible men who were looking at texts written generations and
generations after the life of Jesus and simply taking them
to be reliable.
Speaker 13: And I'd like to directly invite Hamsamat of Hams's Den
to a structured and moderated debate on any or all
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Paul an authentic disciple of Jesus? Or is Jesus God
according to the Bible. I'd be happy to engage on
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invitation so that we can have a productive engagement.
Speaker 3: So, Pamela, the last thing you want to do with
me is give me a month to research topic.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I know this is what you want to
talk about, and you give me a month to research
that topic, and then we're going to debate that topic.
Speaker 15: Deary, deary me.
Speaker 3: I'll rinse.
Speaker 2: You you give me a month to.
Speaker 3: All the arguments, all the planes, all the cops, all
the battles, this, that and the other, and you want to.
Speaker 12: You want to go.
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The link is in the show description. So it's interesting
that they called it Operation Rolling Stone in the film.
I'm not sure what to make of that. It could
have been just happenstance. We don't really know why they
choose these names that they do for these operations. But
the operation itself was a kind of fake flag operation
or a a. It was a disinformation operation to give
the impression that Richard Burton wanted to defect. And the
great twist of irony in the film is that even
though he didn't want to defect, at the end he
felt betrayed by both power structures because the East Rmans
killed Nan, and he also blamed British intelligence and his
handlers because of this nasty business, this nasty work of
espionage which must be done. And he had been also
been betrayed because British intelligence kept from him the fact
that Munt actually was on the British payroll, and so
he had been told that that wasn't the case. He
had been lied to, And so there was sort of
a trail from both power structures because neither power structure
was actually working for the people, so to speak. And
of course both sides would betray themselves as the fenders
of the people, right, But whether it's the degenerate elite
in London or the degenerate elite in Moscow, the atheist elite,
none of them were quote for the people. It was
really pure raw power. And so that's the key point
to take away here, is that the world that we
live in now is the product of this managed dialectic
of the Cold War. To me, it's really evident that
that's the case. Boomers, it's not they can't see that.
They can't They were so entrenched in the Cold War
mindset they can't get that. They can't grasp that. However,
what are we to make of the documentary about Chief
Cold Warrior himself? The man nobody knew, William Colby. We'll
look a little bit of the.
Speaker 9: That.
Speaker 3: We'll look at the trailer for this. William Colby has
been missing since April twenty seven.
Speaker 10: His canoe was found washed up on the banks of
the Waikamako River April twenty eight.
Speaker 3: My father was a he jumped out of airplanes. He
lived to serve. Now keep in mind that Colby is
a trad cat and that's gonna be really relevant for
this analysis. Well again, vindicates a lot of what we've
talked about. And by the way, the documentary is made
by his son, I forget his son's name, but Colby Jr.
So this is not an attack piece, is not a
you know, anti conservative, it's just it's just a documentary
that we're told at least is supposed to be neutral
or fair and balanced or whatever. But if you were
calling and Mark Hacker brought this to my attention, a
couple of these characters that he interviewed that are interviewed
in the documentary actually come up in the Franklin stuff.
And somebody mentioned to me that Colby might have actually
been in the Discovery Channel band the documentary that everybody
it's like the most famous conspiracy documentary ever about the
Boys Town abuse stuff, the famous Discovery Channel documentary. It
still floats around on the internet. I'm sure you can
find it. Senator John DeCamp, etc. Franklin cover up. But
somebody said that Colby was in that. I didn't recall that,
but interesting, and now I have to go back and
rewatch that because I don't remember this. But one of
the characters that comes up in this documentary had some
connection to Craig Spence, who was involved in the Franklin stuff.
So the lobbyist slash Cia character.
Speaker 8: People who turned to me and say, you know your
dad was a murderer, My immediate reaction used to be,
you don't know what you're talking about, And then I'd
find myself thinking was he?
Speaker 4: Who was he?
Speaker 3: Really? I am against assassination And the reason we're doing
this because this ties in perfectly with the Phoenix Program
talk that we did, right, So we covered Douglas Valentine's
book Phoenix Program, and Colby is the architect of the
Phoenix Program, and this comes up quite a bit in
the documentary. They interviewed several agents and spec ops people
who'd been involved in the Phoenix Program. You'll notice there
is the calling card, the death cards, the Ace of Spades,
spades if you're a Lemmy fan. I'm not a Motorhead fan,
but I couldn't resist the opportunity to throw in an
ace of spades Lemmy reference there. And you know, the
documentary is very honest about the reality of this, although
they don't go into many of the details. So we
don't learn about teaching the people to be cannibals, in
encouraging the Phoenix Program operatives to engage in eating the
organs of the victims, right, that doesn't come up. But
there's this sort of an assassination program, as if that.
I mean, first of all, why is that even controversial?
I understand that in the sixties and seventies are having
these hearings, right, and that the church hearings come up
in the documentary and Frank Church is over there, like
is this an assassination gun? And it's like, whoa, the
CIA has a gun that will assassinate people. And you
sit there and you think, well, but wait a minute,
isn't it an army, a giant million person assassination gun.
I mean, the army does assassinate people. So why is
this even a thing? As if we'll the United States,
we don't assassinate people. Isn't that what soldiers do? Soldiers
assassinate people? What are you talking about? So I don't
even understand why it's even a big deal that there.
I mean, it's maybe it's like a level of gas
lighting and like orwelly and stuff where it's like, yeah,
we'll train millions and hundreds of thousand of soldiers to
go and die on the battlefield, but we don't have
assassination programs because we don't want to kill people. What
this just makes no sense to me. Now I'm not
saying it's good that there are assassination programs. I'm just
saying the military is an assassination program. This is so dumb,
That's what I'm trying to say here, right, what is
the military but an assassination program?
Speaker 12: I think it's counterproductive and I have issued directives against it.
Speaker 1: By the time I got there in nineteen sixty nine,
it felt much more like an assassination program.
Speaker 3: So there you see, right, Phoenix program right there, got
an assassination program.
Speaker 9: Current investigation could uncover several assassinations of which the CIA.
Speaker 3: Was involved yes, there were indus, There's no doubt about it.
They got out of hand one person.
Speaker 15: They make these determinations that you do not trust four
hundred and thirty five members, each of whom won an
open election in ostensibly a democratic society. I would say
to you, sir, you don't have the right to play god.
Speaker 6: How many files of this character you maintain on other
members of Congress?
Speaker 3: You know what documentcy destroyed? Don't you think that's.
Speaker 9: An exceedingly loose way to run an agency, particularly the CIA.
Speaker 3: So the irony is you got all these the Democratic
senators back then or like grilling these people for the
very thing that the Democratic people in control now do.
It's just such an obvious like scam, right, Like who
can't see that this is all ridiculous? Right now? With
the character of Colby, what's interesting is that when we
go through the documentary find out that early on he
had been stationed I think with the OSS in Italy
and appeared to have had connections with what looks like Gladio.
Can't I don't think in the documentary they mentioned Gladio,
But it's obviously Operation Gladio, right, I mean, it's like,
so it's he's stationed there during World War Two for
oss stuff. No, no, I'm sorry. He went into Germany.
He was a parachuter into Germany for the oss UH
in World War two period. Then he stationed in Italy
to be involved in I assume to stay behind Gladio units.
Right there he starts working with a cardinal. I don't
think they mentioned the name of the cardinal, but this
all vindicates what wim Hoff says, right, so pretty clearly
has to be Gladio stay behind units that Colby is
in charge of. They actually interview us a big new
Brazenski in this documentary, so Ziebig is there talking about
the Cold War, talking about William Colby. But there was
an interesting element too where they were talking about the
values of Colby and his approach just by Craft and
he talked about reading T. Lawrence and the people that
he trained that they wanted to be like the way T. E.
Lawrence operated with the Arabs. Right, so the America which
shows that the American attitude is basically exactly the same
as the British intelligence attitude, right, exactly what T. Lawrence
does being the British intelligence spy setting up the colony
colonizing the Arab tribes like the other British intelligence agents
did hunt Shume me Philby, Philby Senior. And if you've
not seen the Peter O'Toole film Lawrence of Arabia, I
highly recommend it because it's about this and so this
I hate to use the woke speak here, but I
don't know what a house to say it, but the
colonizing approach of T. E. Lawrence here in regard to
the British Empire is mimicked intentionally on the part of
what Colby says. The goal is we will be the
packs Americana. I will try to be the T. E.
Lawrence uh too to America for America. And so we
get deep testimony. He was sent deep into enemy territory,
accused me by the OSS, and he was in charge
of sabotage teams. So he trained uh Norwi people in Norway,
a bunch of sabotage agents to sabotage access operations during
World War Two. And then he's stationed during the time
of the American centric so he'll play a key role
in promoting this. What what we find out is actually
a Rockefeller planned operation of the American century the Henry
Loose promotes. Colby is involved in the same American statitude,
promoting the the extension of American Empire. He's involved in
in Iron Curtain propaganda, the free world versus the slave world.
Brazinski in the documentary goes into his World War Two missions.
Then he stationed in Italy what I think is probably
the Gladio stay behind units, and he's told when he's this,
this is where it gets really interesting. He's told in
Italy by the cardinal, if you really want good intelligence,
go to church. So the Roman Catholic Church in Italy,
we clearly see on the part of this cardinal is
a key hub for espionage, especially CIA operations. At this point,
Colby is not that high level, right, He's just stationed
in Italy. He's not been His first big appointment will
be CIA Chief of Asian Affairs, and that's when he
will run the operations in Vietnam. Then he will be
promoted after the Phoenix program to running the CIA, you see.
So that's how he moves up the chain. And this
is relevant because what appears to be giant failures, what
appears to be a collapse Vietnam is a big failure.
Supposedly Phoenix program supposedly draws all this ire, Well, what
do you know, he ends up promoted. And that's something
that we find out pretty often in the intelligence world,
is that the biggest failures end up being the greatest successes.
And that's what leads us to suggest or to think
that these operations are not what they appear to be.
In fact, was Vietnam actually a giant demoralization effort on
the part of the global elite, and thus Vietnam is
actually a giant success. I lean towards that view the
more I study Vietnam. And we know from Thealine book
that the principles of police state, reorganization of society, continuity
of government, experimentation with drones and AI that began in Vietnam,
as well as biowarfare, spraying things, all of that was
a research and development approach on the part of the
American deep state in Nam. That's what Nam was about,
and the drug war too. But the drug war side
of it wasn't just about profits. It was about studying
what happens when the troops are all addicted to these things,
What happens when these troops come back home, How does
that affect the domestic population when all these nambats are
basically ruined and the importation of drugs as a result
of that theater of war Southeast Asia, huge Golden Triangle,
big drug hubs, okay, crucial to controlling how the planet runs. Now,
perhaps as a trad cat younger Colby is naive and
thinks that he's fighting for the good guys. But as
he rises in this intelligence power structure, we find him
to be more and more of a conflicted man, even
though he's getting promoted, and much like in the situation
of the Courier, we find his home life falling apart.
He ends up divorced. Trad Cats thought, you can't get divorced. Well,
he ends up divorcing his wife. I think he married
some other woman. But before we get to that, we
have to point out that he then makes inroads with
the Vatican, gets very close to a high profile cardinals
when he's stationed in Italy. The cardinals directly tell him
that if you want real intelligence, start going to the
Latin Masks, start going to church. This is fifties, right,
So this is prior to Cuban missile crisis. Might before
if this is fifties, so this is after his oss period.
So the CIA cardinal whoever that is, basically says we
got to support the Christian Democrats. That's the only way
to beat the rising Communist Party in Italy. So the
Communist Party is getting popular. This is where Gladio and
the Stay behind units come into play. Gladio is about
basically putting an end to the Communist uprisings and success
throughout Europe. Then this leads to him being stationed in
Vietnam in nineteen fifty five to take on the role
of head of Asia Central Asian Operations for the CIA.
And let's see, there was a quote that I thought
was very fast and it's strange to think that the
threat from the North Vietnamese wasn't clearly seen because they
interviewed Colby's wife throughout this His son interviews the mom
throughout the documentary, and I thought that was interesting because
it's like, so, if this was a big threat, why
would it not be seen? And she's saying that, oh,
it was actually a huge threat. Right. But remember Colby
and these characters are participating in the Cold War strategy
of the of the Cold Warriors, the neocons, the Rockefellers,
et cetera, to stress that this is a global threat
and it's not because they really wanted to get rid
of communism. Remember, Nelson Rockefeller intimately involved in the government
at this time. He was stationed as I think Nelson was,
wasn't he stationed in Latin South America CIA chief. And
there's this fascinating section in the documentary where they play
audio of JFK and RFK arguing with Helms Henry Cabot,
Lodge and some of these other deep state people and
they're like telling him, no, you're gonna do what we say,
and it isn't there's even a point in the documentary
where they say, we don't give a damn what the
White House thinks about this, because we are the real power, Okay,
the Intelligence Apparatus CIA, that's the real power, and we
will do what we want to in this theater of war.
And so they actually overthrow DM in a coup, which
JFK and RK didn't want to do. And that's wild, right,
because it's actually comes up in the documentary. They're like,
the CIA is just like, we don't give a show
what you think. We work for higher masters above you
President ken and duh, I wonder who got rid of
President Kennedy and RFK I wonder who? I mean it
probably maybe the people involved in telling him that we
will stage a coup in Vietnam and we don't give
a shit what you think. I mean, how how is
this not obvious? How do people not how can people
not figure out who really runs this country? It's so stupid, right,
It's like, and do you think that those people care
anything about you? Cold War boomer? Do you think they
care anything about you? I don't care about you. Again
the entire by the way they interview this jesuit, this
weird jesuit dude is interview obviously he's some kind of asset.
They interview him like five times. He's in like five
clips and he's just like, oh, yes, well, uh you know, uh,
deception is necessary and deception is good and uh you
know that's what we have to do to fight the
good fight. It's just just a bunch of bologney. Dude.
It's like, who believes these people? How do you believe
these people? This obvious jesuit just con man right anyway,
So his he that's his jesuit counselor. I don't know
who the Jesuit is he a counselor? To William Colby,
what does this mean? He was a Jesuit counselor? Who
does he counsel? Why is this person matter? Why are
we interviewing this guy?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: But it vindicates again the wim Hoff book, the John
Courtney Murray CIA asset, CD Jackson doctrinal warfare program all
one ecent vindicated. This documentary is not about that, but
it shows that's all legit, one percent true, totally. And
by the way, in the wim Hoff In the Douglas
Valentine book, I pointed out how it wasn't just uh,
the Roman Catholics that the CIA had made this alliance
with in Vietnam. The all the set of a contests
trace their lineage from Nego dan Tuk, who was also
a ciasset. According to dougsvownsine mean being on interesting. Now,
as the documentary moves on to discuss the operations of Vietnam,
at first JFK and RFK wanted to rely on special operations.
So their whole thing was, let's just use speck ops.
We don't want to full on war here. And then
it turned into now we're gonna have the CIA and
the Deep States said, no, we're gonna have a coup.
We're gonna overthrow DM and we're going to send in
the counterintelligence specialists who end up becoming the Phoenix program.
So the Phoenix program is initiated. Colby is the main
architect of this. And if you remember in the Valentine book,
they brought in like people from the Ford Foundation or
people who'd worked at Ford Motor Corporate because it was
a corporate strategy of efficiency in t E r R
O R. Yes, corporate terror. You heard me, right, So
you want to think about the war on t E
r R O R. Well, according to Valentine, you have
to understand Nam. Right, you got to go talk to
Boomer Garcia. Oh yeah, man, you know when I was
over in NAM, I was on a vision quest and
I seen inside the heart of America and I seen
a giant dollar sign. So Boomer Garcia is more right
than you know. So it's not really about dollar signs, right,
And that they again mentioned that Lawrence of Arabia was
the model. So Lawrence of Arabia is mentioned at the
beginning for World War two, the oss World War Vietnam.
Colby again mentions that Lawrence of Arabia is the model
for how they want to handle the colony, right or
the liberators, right, the United States as the liberators. And
by the way, don't bitch at me as if I'm
defending Soviets. It's they're both colonizers, right, It's just two
different strategies or programs.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: The Soviets are like, oh, we're going to free you.
We're going to be your liberators with Marxism and communism,
and the West is like, no, we're going to be
your liberators with democracy and cocin pepsi. Right, So which
of the liberators do you want? Well, is it possible?
Have you ever thought about maybe that both of them
are not liberators, Maybe both of them are pragmatic dialectical
control structures. Has anybody ever thought of that? Even though
constantly books come out demonstrating this high high level, powerful sources,
people can't figure this out. They cannot wrap their heads
around the Cold War being a managed electric because so
the Kennedy said, let's keep using the special forces, no CIA,
And now this is the this is by the way,
this is the height of the Roman Catholic power in America, right,
I don't think. I think sixties Vatican two, John Courtney,
Marisiti Jackson. You got a Roman Catholic president, you got RFK,
you got William Colby as the trad cat head of
the CIA. I mean, this is like the apex of
the Roman Catholic power structure period. But it's also the
end of that period because we know what happens to
RFK JFK. Colby ends up under all of these Senate hearings,
which I don't even do these hearings ever even do
anything or they just show trials to make people look bad, right,
Congressional inquiries hearings do they they don't do anything. Nobody
does them ever get any like prison time? Or is
it just like to put on a show like the
Congress and the Senator like they're doing something and they
like it was grilled on Capitol Hill today. Okay, but
what does this do, like zimbi actually ever stop doing anything?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Right, And so Colby ends up under all of these
Senate hearings about the Phoenix program and the CIA's assassination programs.
Right now, look at the evolution of the absurdity of liberalism,
by the way, because the if you look at all
the people grilling Colby, it's all these Democrats who are
actually making good points. So they're out there saying like,
aren't you just doing all this for the at the
behest of giant corporations? Aren't you just assassinating and mind
controlling people with MK ultra. Isn't this, you know, being
used on the domestic population. Isn't this taking away our liberties?
So what the democrats are saying in the seventies, sixties
and seventies is the same stuff that you hear people
like me or AJ saying now. But now that is
far right crazy talk. What how is that even possible?
It's weird bizarre. But again, the most telling part of
this whole documentary in terms of deep state stuff was that, well,
for one thing they say is that there was an
awesome admission. I forget who it was, but some of
guys like, yeah, DM was a Roman Catholic, but he
existed in the midst of a Buddhist country that had
an affinity for right their Soviet support. And so what
we did was what we created an made up image
around DM that was completely created that he was a Democrat.
So it's all just fake Okay. The DM government was
a puppet government of the United States, but they created
the idea that it was a democratic regime. It was
all made up and people didn't buy it. And this,
by the way, is where I didn't ha didn't even
realize this. But everybody's seen that famous picture of the
Buddhist monk who immolated himself. That is from this, That
is the protests against the DM government, in case you
were wondering. So they bring in Henry Cabot Lodge for
on the part of the deep state, and he comes
in and says, the CIA will decide to topple DM,
and we will decide that. By the way, the reason
that Vietnam matters in this whole theater war is because
that's the key to controlling Southeast Asia. Controlling Southeast Asia
is the key to the drug trade, one key side
to the drug drake, because that's a big part of this.
Then we get the obvious villain characters of Helms Harriman,
Abril Harriman, Richard McNamara, and Henry Cabot Lodge who say
we will decide what to do in Vietnam, and we
don't care what you say JFK. Now, I'm not lionizing JFK.
I don't really care about who was the real Democrat
man of the people. I think there's a lot of
corruption and oddness when it comes to JFK. Obviously came
to power through organized crime. That's how he got elected.
That the whole family got elected because they were all
tied to organized crime, going back to their father running
liquor with al Capone. Okay, so these are old school politicians,
but clearly JFK is running a foul this entrenched military
industrial complex OSSCIA establishment, and clearly you can read between
the lines in this documentary and figure out that, Okay,
those are some of the people that were involved in JFK.
Clearly Now they say after this that the United States
bore shame in all these tragedies, and we thought we
had the moral high ground, and even his wife says
this right, and supposedly William Colby is, oh, he's ashamed
of the atrocities, and in the hearings he's, oh, you know,
there were abuses, and there was some bad apple. That's
always there was a few rotten apples, and we'll have
to clean out those systems right, this bolooney excuse that
we always get. But Vietnam is the breakdown of the
narrative that the United States is on a holy mission
to bring democracy and freedom. And they even sort of
laugh at this in the documentary as if everybody knows
that's absurd. Even the deep state people that they interview
in the documentary laugh at Okay, who believes this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And so they moved away from special operations to conventional warfare.
This brings about the Phoenix program where they train people
to be serial killers. Colby pushed and pushed for this
version of guerrilla warfare, and he cited Jesuits and Ignacious
in part of this holy warfare philosophy. Bizarre citing ignation
and Jesuits for this Phoenix program approach of grilla. What
it's really weird. Now, I don't this is theorizing here
because I can't prove this, but I would theorize that
because there is a connection between mkulture and the Phoenix program.
We also know there's a connection to mind control and
the Jesuit approach to a confessor confessing his sins. It's
not Jesuits, but the model of the Jesuits is utilized
in the handler operative relationship, the manipulation between the handler
and the operative, and that could thus play a key
role in the organizational structures in MK ultra the different
approaches to mind control. Clearly the Jesuit relationship of confessor
to confess e could easily be implemented there. And we
do these high level CIA people like Colby making reference
to the mysteries of the Jesuits and ignacious Loyola's approach
and the Jesuit in the documentary even says that so
again not far fetched to think along those lines. However,
that does not mean Jesuits run the world. That's kind
of ridiculous. But they are verifiably part of that, allied
with the CIA power structure, as per the whim Hoff book.
And so Colby runs these counterin certainty operations, presses for it,
admits that there were abuses, admits there was corruption, admits
it was a t E R R O R campaign.
Now wait a minute, so it is a terror campaign.
I thought we don't do that. We're fighting the war
on it again. Welcome to upside down world, Welcome to
orwell world. I mean, the only way to fight T
E R R O R is to engage in T
E R R O R. That's the logic here. Well,
so after all these grillings, Colby steps down and divorces,
marries some other woman, and then one day floats off
on his boat and washes up on a shore now
the sun. In the documentary, his son implies that he
thinks his dad ended his own life. I mean, maybe,
I guess you could be guilt ridden and whatever. But also,
I mean, come on high profile that people. I mean,
I obviously the media thought is okay, who got rid
of that guy? So he spent sixteen years running these
operations of you it was all his baby. We're supposed
to think it was a failure, But was it really
a failing Again, I'm not convinced that Vietnam was actually
a failure because it really if you think about the
vantage point of the deep state and what they would
have wanted to accomplish via Vietnam, I mean, everything that
they would have wanted. Vietnam was a stellar success, right.
I mean, who is so naiven normy to believe that
intelligence failures are not intelligence successes? The Big Nine event
that was a huge intelligence success on the part of
the parties that gained from that. The surveillance infrastructure alone
made the Big nine event a huge success. So we
have in the seventies, as I said, investigations, the church hearings,
the seventies investigations into the intelligence community. And if you
listen to these investigations, it's wild because everything that they're
saying is so correct, and nowadays it was prophetic. Nowadays
it's like a hundred times crazier. And to listen to
the ridiculous nonsense of Colby sitting there saying, well, we
have to do all this because the CIA keeps America safe.
I mean, who actually believes this, Who actually believes that
these foreign campaigns are actually for the purpose of keeping
us safe? I mean the same people that believe that
there were weapons of mass destruction right in Iraq, right,
and we fought so dom to keep us safe. I mean,
come on, everyone knows that was fake. And in this
documentary they keep bringing up the fact of well Colby
was such a honorable man, committed to the truth, that
he was always in the struggle being a track Catholic
with a life of lies and deception. Now maybe that's true,
and maybe that's why he was so guiltrid and wanted
to end his life. Maybe or maybe he was a
wicked man. Uh and maybe he knew too much and
was disposed of I don't know. I don't know. But
anytime we have somebody that high profile floating up on
a river bank, I mean, come on, and when Colby
steps down, who steps into that role? Read my lips? Now,
no taxes, the infamous Bush Senior, infamous Bushes. So again
total operative minion of the deep state. In fact, Averil
Harriman is in the government to this telling JFK, we
don't care what you think about Vietnam. You're not in
charge here. And of course what's Harriman Bush? That's part
of the Bush family, right, Abril Harriman. I forget what
his relationship is to Bush Senior, but I mean, who
can't figure this out? And who actually thinks that these
people have your best interest? I mean, it's just let's
see exactly what his.
Speaker 1: His role was.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's William and then there's April. So there's two.
Abril Herriman's Democrat politician, railroad baron. Okay, so I forgot
what they're but aren't they married into the Bushes somehow,
what is that connection Prescott? Okay, so Prescott was the
partner of April Harriman Investment Bank. So they're not married,
they were business partners, but they are related as cousins
apparently anyway. Uh yeah, I mean it's just obviously, you know,
powerly families here at that government level. Here, they're not
at the top of the pyramid, but they're uh, you know,
these are people equivalent to the Kissingers, the Brazienski's, the Bushes,
you know, that's that's these people sort of dynastic government
level people. But there you go. I mean, pretty much
everything that we saw in the Wimhoff analyses backed up
pretty much everything, well, most of the basic details of
Douglas Valentine's Phoenix Program book also backed up in this documentary,
which was supposed to be fairly what fair and balanced,
I guess I was supposed to be.
Speaker 8: The director was always caught between doing the wish of
the president and the law, and when the president said
do this, do that, the law got set aside doing.
Speaker 4: He was really a treasured charm.
Speaker 10: The family wasn't always let into this world of his.
Speaker 3: He never had to really tell me anything.
Speaker 8: My father lived in a world of secrets, always watching, listening,
his eye on the door. By the time I turned thirty,
I came to understand the man that nobody knew, or
at least I thought I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so definitely worth watching. And you'll see all those
high level, you know, deep state goons being interviewed in there.
And I have quite a few admissions there. So I
hope you guys enjoyed tonight's analysis if you would like
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That's why the ticket is a little bit more because
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debate challenge, so we will have to wait and see.
All right, I hope you guys enjoyed tonight's stream. Sorry
we got cut off earlier with Mama Gaya spitting electricity
at us. From the sky shutting down my Internet. But
you can get the new books at the website, both
the Red Book and Meta Narratives. You can sign up
over on rock fin If you enjoyed this stream, definitely
go watch the Occult Spy stream over on rock fan.
It is a premium stream, but is definitely worth your
time and the money to go watch that