Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome everyone to what I would say is the
Speaker 1: world's finest anime podcast. I have not listened to many
Speaker 1: other anime podcasts, but.
Speaker 2: I mean, why would you? How could they compete with this?
Speaker 1: Right for starters, we got the boy, the man, the experience.
Speaker 2: It's Tomorrowhussein. Hello. Is that like the process?
Speaker 1: No, it's not, because the process is also here at
Speaker 1: Lucy James.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Is that good process?
Speaker 2: Use it? Ben?
Speaker 1: It is Lucy and most of all the fantasy, the unrequited.
Speaker 2: It's Jeff Butler. Hey, what's up? How could Tam be
Speaker 2: a boy and a man?
Speaker 1: It's like in It's like in Game of Thrones, where
Speaker 1: everyone is not not even a man grown, and they
Speaker 1: could be talking about the little fellow at no legs,
Speaker 1: or the or the Prince lad who's killing ship out
Speaker 1: in the snow.
Speaker 3: Is not a girl, not yet a woman.
Speaker 2: See, you're just between of a Yeah.
Speaker 1: The way I see a Tam kind of embodies the
Speaker 1: good qualities of both is kind of kind of what
Speaker 1: I was going for there.
Speaker 2: There are no good qualities of boys.
Speaker 3: Speaking.
Speaker 2: Man are just men are just.
Speaker 4: Not speaking like a serial killer that kills boys.
Speaker 2: No, I just well, they need to be eliminated. That
Speaker 2: brings me, that bring the parlays into berserk quite.
Speaker 4: Nicely, because I went to Google dot com and typed
Speaker 4: in the search for anime podcast and the top result
Speaker 4: is reddit our slash podcast. Can you recommend any high
Speaker 4: quality anime podcasts? Within that thread? I didn't find a
Speaker 4: single mention of the Jeff Just Bizarre Adventure podcast.
Speaker 2: So we're failing, I am.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I need people who are listening
Speaker 4: to this to go to Reddit or slash podcast, find
Speaker 4: that thread and put our podcast in there, because right, no,
Speaker 4: don't do that.
Speaker 3: That's how you get banned from Reddit.
Speaker 2: That is how you get banned from Reddit. I mean
Speaker 2: going to get from Reddit.
Speaker 4: Whoever posts is going to get banned from Reddit.
Speaker 1: What you know what, as I say all this, I'm
Speaker 1: remembering that I've actually guested on several other animes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, there are The point
Speaker 4: of this is that they mentioned the trash Taste podcast,
Speaker 4: which is actually.
Speaker 2: A very good anime. I love those guys. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so there is.
Speaker 1: The number one spot with with those fellows. They are
Speaker 1: they are they are still stellar gentlemen. All of the
Speaker 1: guys I have a quick non anime related question here
Speaker 1: of wrestling with Yeah, maybe this is what we're wrestling. No,
Speaker 1: although no, don't tam, don't get excited, don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: How rude are you allowed? Scam callers?
Speaker 2: So you have to say it again? Tim spoke over you.
Speaker 1: How rude are you allowed to be to scam callers?
Speaker 2: Allowed be?
Speaker 1: Did you just say how rude are you allowed to be?
Speaker 2: Definitely forget the first time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're gonna be as rude as you
Speaker 4: want because I used to be polite, but then I
Speaker 4: realized scam callers know their scam.
Speaker 2: Callers, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and okay, So today I got a call
Speaker 1: from a lady at around eleven am and she told
Speaker 1: me that I had a bitcoin wallet that I opened
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: Congruts, that's for you.
Speaker 1: I was just I was, I was. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of work to do today. I wanted to get
Speaker 1: a little breaky break in before we did this podcast,
Speaker 1: and so I was really trying to get through it,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, listen, I'm sorry, like this
Speaker 1: is your this is a scam, Like I know it's
Speaker 1: a scam. And then she was like, well, then how
Speaker 1: would I know your name Jojo, which is like my
Speaker 1: Facebook profile name. I was like, I don't like, that's
Speaker 1: not even my name, dude, Think I just got that.
Speaker 1: She actually goes you think I just got that name
Speaker 1: from someone out in the street. Like she starts getting
Speaker 1: real aggressive. Well she has a hit and then she
Speaker 1: hangs up.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, fucking fine, whatever.
Speaker 1: And then then at around four pm, my phone rings
Speaker 1: again and it's the same thing. It's another bitcoin person
Speaker 1: at this time it's a guy, and he starts telling
Speaker 1: me again about and so I let him go on
Speaker 1: for a little bit longer this time because I'm edited
Speaker 1: and I got time. You know, I can sure I
Speaker 1: can play with this for a little bit. And the
Speaker 1: tactics he's using I don't appreciate, because he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can see that you have about one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars worth of bitcoin in this bit wallet.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to close the wallet or would
Speaker 1: you like to try and retrieve it? And I just
Speaker 1: go I'd like to try and retrieve it, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what's that, sir? Would you like me to
Speaker 1: close it? Like he's trying to get me like panicked.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not even a good scammer.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I actually I understand what he was doing because when
Speaker 1: he said that, even though I know it's not real,
Speaker 1: there was a little part of me that went like,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh, I don't want my fake bitcoin wallet
Speaker 1: to be closed, you know, like, I think that was
Speaker 1: actually kind of a good tactic. But I let the
Speaker 1: conversation run on a little bit and then I started
Speaker 1: kind of just getting impatient because he kept talking over me.
Speaker 1: And thenally I ended the conversation with a very a
Speaker 1: rude sentiment. I would say, nuns, can you can you?
Speaker 1: Can you perform it?
Speaker 2: Can you please? Pretty bad? I feel please? Did you
Speaker 2: say please please? No? Did you tell them to go
Speaker 2: fuck themselves? No? Not quite.
Speaker 1: You know what, I was going to give John Luke
Speaker 1: the power of edit over this, and I think this
Speaker 1: this this person was trying to scam me. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: he said, would I have three minutes to sort this out?
Speaker 1: And I told him that I will be free in
Speaker 1: exactly three minutes, because that's the amount of time I
Speaker 1: predict that I will be finished.
Speaker 4: His dad, Oh my god, Oh John, that's very so John,
Speaker 4: is it weird that this on yourself?
Speaker 2: But yeah, is it weird that? I?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why am I dissing myself like a.
Speaker 3: Three like a three minute?
Speaker 2: I don't know. You want to give to know how
Speaker 2: long I've been going for.
Speaker 1: I just know I'll be over in three minutes. I
Speaker 1: didn't imply that I started the second he asked that question.
Speaker 4: Is it weird? I knew you were going to say
Speaker 4: that because of me, And I knew you were going
Speaker 4: to say something.
Speaker 2: What do you mean? You knew he was.
Speaker 1: Going to face this guy's dad because I thought what
Speaker 1: would be the worst.
Speaker 4: Thing someone could say in that moment that will piss
Speaker 4: someone off? And I went to school with a kid
Speaker 4: that would constantly say I'm going to bang your dad
Speaker 4: as a as a inside, which was really funny because
Speaker 4: we went to an.
Speaker 2: Old boys school. Yeah that's funny. So he was very progressive.
Speaker 2: There is something funny about just saying, like telling a
Speaker 2: complete stranger you're going to go, and.
Speaker 3: There's a like a there's a purity to the insult.
Speaker 3: I suppose if you are you know, it's it's plain
Speaker 3: and simple, but gets it cuts to you, right.
Speaker 1: I think it kind of kind of roots out a
Speaker 1: little bit of like like homophobia people as well, because
Speaker 1: why is that worse than.
Speaker 4: Speaking of banging your dad's berserk?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let me let me just finish real quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put a bow on this. So he just gets and
Speaker 1: I feel bad because he just goes oh.
Speaker 2: Dad, and then he just goes off.
Speaker 1: He says, mom like, he just says it, nailed it,
Speaker 1: and and then I just go Then we'll be a family.
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good. That's how families work.
Speaker 1: But I think I think just the oh, like I
Speaker 1: had hit something, like I I got something in them.
Speaker 2: You did good today, John, I don't know. You see,
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Do you watch those scam my payback videos because those
Speaker 4: are very good.
Speaker 1: They are, But can I tell you what drives me
Speaker 1: fucking mad?
Speaker 2: It takes so long, It takes.
Speaker 1: So long, and the people who are doing the payback
Speaker 1: are not creative enough for my likings.
Speaker 2: Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I remember there was this one where they hacked into
Speaker 1: the like webcam of the person trying to scam them,
Speaker 1: and they they they they never said anything. I like,
Speaker 1: they never let them know they could see them.
Speaker 2: And I would have.
Speaker 1: Been like, that's a lovely blue sweater you have there
Speaker 1: and they didn't, and it just Yeah. Anyway, speaking of
Speaker 1: things not ending Berzerk, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like we've been on a journey already and we believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's get to recapping.
Speaker 1: H So, I guess my like overall thoughts coming out
Speaker 1: of these two episodes was I felt like this was
Speaker 1: a much better introduction to what Berserk is. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I forgot how kind of I think those
Speaker 1: first two episodes are good, but they're very messy, and
Speaker 1: I feel like you're only really getting your footing in
Speaker 1: the first episode before the setting in period completely changes
Speaker 1: in a way that's like very difficult to follow if
Speaker 1: you're not if you're not like with it, what'd you
Speaker 1: guys think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought this was a much more grounded approach,
Speaker 2: absence of snake barrens and other ridiculous things that perhaps
Speaker 2: cloudied the water and trying to understand just what was
Speaker 2: at play here. I will say, I don't understand the
Speaker 2: dynamic of this like endless one hundred year war with
Speaker 2: like Midland Castle people, uh, and just like what appears
Speaker 2: to be like a campsite a couple of hundred feet
Speaker 2: away and they're just doing that for a hundred years.
Speaker 2: Is that what's happening?
Speaker 3: I think what we're saying with you are you with
Speaker 3: like you know how medieval war used to happen because
Speaker 3: it used to just take fucking ages and they used
Speaker 3: to just you know, camp.
Speaker 2: Out, yeah, and just lay siege for a bit, come back.
Speaker 1: Like I also think, Jeff, we're seeing like a fraction
Speaker 1: of the war. Yeah, we're seeing some nothing battle for
Speaker 1: some shithole town or castle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem worth it. I'll go ahead and
Speaker 2: say it's.
Speaker 4: Time from software Reference of the week. Okay, the setting
Speaker 4: of Bersark currently is called Midland. Does anyone know the
Speaker 4: setting of Eldon Ring?
Speaker 2: It's Midland West, It's West Midland. It's the lands between, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Do you know there are places in the UK called
Speaker 3: the Midlands.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's all everything is called everything there. It's
Speaker 2: a little island, but yet it has all the names
Speaker 2: of every fantasy world crammed inside there. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Midland, the lands between, the lands between, being the middle.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to share that fact. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I just want to
Speaker 3: share my culture with Jeff.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like, I don't know, I find
Speaker 2: the naming convention of English territories to be humorous.
Speaker 3: And do you live in fucking New Jersey?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I don't put that much stock into that.
Speaker 4: Jeff prefers his naming conventions to be appropriated by conquering
Speaker 4: other people and just calling them ways.
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't conquered anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I guess the first time I have
Speaker 1: read there with Jeff, the first time I ever sat
Speaker 1: down with Jeff, like first words out of his mouth
Speaker 1: where I don't want to hear about the potato fomin
Speaker 1: and I hadn't I led with that broad it, of
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of strange, but like, you know.
Speaker 2: I just it was a bit. Yeah. I hadn't even
Speaker 2: taken my coat off. Yeah, no it.
Speaker 4: So, what we're saying is Jeff doesn't like the name
Speaker 4: Midland for this thing.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't mind that. That's not what I
Speaker 2: was criticizing. I just didn't understand the dynamics of this war. Hmm.
Speaker 2: You know, like it's just like nights watching from above
Speaker 2: and they're like, shit's going not so great right now?
Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah? Not so great? But like
Speaker 2: so yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: How much you know about like I said earlier, like
Speaker 3: medieval warfare.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm watching a documentary. What do you
Speaker 2: know what's happened? Do you think this ship is based on?
Speaker 2: What do you think was based.
Speaker 3: On place and time period.
Speaker 2: And how warfare was carried out. I'm talking about the
Speaker 2: dynamics of the war, like who the stake holders are?
Speaker 2: I don't understand, Tutor.
Speaker 3: Does that res like the Tudor period?
Speaker 2: In Tutor Tutor? Tutor? Tutor got to say it an American.
Speaker 4: Guys, Tudor three times and you're like, and then we
Speaker 4: went with Tutor and you went on tut.
Speaker 2: You just spelled it. I would have been to get
Speaker 2: your book.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think I think that what you're saying
Speaker 4: is is partly accurate in that they haven't really fully
Speaker 4: spent a lot of time being like the once.
Speaker 2: Existed a group of people called the.
Speaker 4: Tutors, and exactly they're not in the Midlands. But that's
Speaker 4: not really that important to this large.
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 1: I would say, again, don't What I don't need in
Speaker 1: this world is a history lesson. I want to know
Speaker 1: about these characters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you need to know is there's a war
Speaker 4: between two groups, and as part of that war, there
Speaker 4: are roving bands of mercenaries. The Band of Hawk is
Speaker 4: one of them, and Warfit, like it was back then,
Speaker 4: is very glacial. People just basically set up outside of
Speaker 4: each other's houses and like, I'm gonna suck you up
Speaker 4: when I can figure out how to get over this
Speaker 4: war and.
Speaker 1: Again, and Jeff, what we're not seeing is like any
Speaker 1: kind of climactic or decisive battle. These are the low low,
Speaker 1: low tier higher a bunch of teenage bandits to basically
Speaker 1: fight this one for this one shithole little castle somewhere
Speaker 1: off in the corner of the map.
Speaker 2: That's gonna work. Right now, it seems like a good life,
Speaker 2: you know, No, I mean until until you get attacked.
Speaker 2: I was kidding. It seems horrific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we open up where we left off last time,
Speaker 1: and it's our friend Griffith. That's a little weak MD
Speaker 1: there that I will continue. Our friend Griffith is has
Speaker 1: basically been challenged to a duel by Guts, and he
Speaker 1: has declared that if he, if Griffith wins, Guts is his.
Speaker 1: And what I enjoy about all these early scenes with
Speaker 1: Guts and Griffith is the complete lack of homo eroticism.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, zero, one hundred. They don't even have a
Speaker 2: gay water fight in this episode. Zero. There's nothing to
Speaker 2: be even mentioned or suggest not.
Speaker 4: There's at no point does one man look at the
Speaker 4: other and say you belong to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally a gay water fight. Weer like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe one of them is completely naked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well that would be That would be ridiculous. Jeff, Now this.
Speaker 4: This is a manly show about big sorts. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that don't look.
Speaker 1: Like anyone who reads anything more into it it Well,
Speaker 1: you know, how.
Speaker 2: Is this andre than JoJo's. I don't understand. That's a
Speaker 2: good points. That's a really excellent question.
Speaker 4: Well, this is this anime?
Speaker 2: Is gay?
Speaker 4: Jojo is camp? I think you get two different styles off.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is quite insightful.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm sort of blown away at that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, everyone's making fun of me, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Just genuinely not I I genuinely think that's a really
Speaker 1: interesting way to look at these shows.
Speaker 2: Everyone is warning me on online, They're like, oh, Jeff,
Speaker 2: buckle up, Buttercup, that kind of stuff, And it's like
Speaker 2: it's just a gay water fight. It was the shower
Speaker 2: with the water fight. They're talking, you're safe, now, you're good,
Speaker 2: I will say, Guts, And I don't know, we're probably
Speaker 2: far away from the gay water fight in recapping, but
Speaker 2: like certainly Guts through like kind of surprised me where
Speaker 2: he was like, you know what, I am down for
Speaker 2: this water fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he wants him to get all up
Speaker 4: in his guts. You know, we.
Speaker 1: Will get to whatever may or may not be happening
Speaker 1: in that water fight. But as it stands, Griffith and
Speaker 1: Guts have this duel, and I just really like everything
Speaker 1: about how this duel is kind of like choreographed and written.
Speaker 1: I love, like the one thing I really like about
Speaker 1: b Zerk is that everyone who fights in it, like
Speaker 1: there's no stands, like no one has like very few
Speaker 1: people have like superpowers or like that, but I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone has a really like bespoke and personal way
Speaker 1: of fighting. And you have Guts with this big, massive
Speaker 1: heavy sword, and then you have Griffith with like his
Speaker 1: little kind of fencing blade, and I think they I
Speaker 1: think it's evident that like they really think about like
Speaker 1: what a fight between those two weapons would look like,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very When Griffith is fighting him, you see
Speaker 4: him do a lot of like redirecting the momentum of
Speaker 4: Guts swings, which is exactly how you would approach that.
Speaker 4: And it makes the fact that he's able to block
Speaker 4: a giant slab of metal a little more believable because
Speaker 4: he's not just like taking it, he's like redirecting it,
Speaker 4: which is a nice touch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they both tumble off a hill and it devolves
Speaker 1: into a fistfight, and for a moment it looks like
Speaker 1: Griffith's kind of Griffith's going down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also like the.
Speaker 4: Shortly before they tumble down, Gots does that thing where
Speaker 4: he flicks some dirt up into his face using his
Speaker 4: giant sword. It's just like because Griffith jumps on his
Speaker 4: sword as he swings it, which is a cool moment
Speaker 4: that shows one Griffith is like very very lithe and
Speaker 4: very very precise in the way that he approaches not
Speaker 4: only his combat. Yeah, he's a deck build and it
Speaker 4: kind of like reflects overall demeanor in everything. He has
Speaker 4: this very composed nature, whereas Guts is a little more
Speaker 4: like wild and will do anything to get the job done,
Speaker 4: and him swinging his sword and then basically using a
Speaker 4: dirty tactic and.
Speaker 2: Also biting Griffith's sword is unhinged.
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot there's like a lot of characterization
Speaker 1: in the way they fight. I really really like that.
Speaker 1: Like I love when a fight doesn't just feel like
Speaker 1: a pause and a story. I love when you can
Speaker 1: like infer things about the character, like and the way
Speaker 1: they fight.
Speaker 2: They also do it really guts.
Speaker 3: His ears look more pointy because he's kind of got
Speaker 3: that animalistic nature, like the uncontrolled version of and like
Speaker 3: the way that he has that bit of leather tied
Speaker 3: to his back. It looks like a tail.
Speaker 2: He is the animal.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of interesting because it kind of
Speaker 1: looks like it goes into like a devil point and
Speaker 1: if it's this mildly angelic looking creature. And I was
Speaker 1: actually watching that day and thinking about that.
Speaker 4: There's also some stuff of Casca and Caucus and that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff that they use this moment to really
Speaker 4: establish a hierarchy. If it wasn't clear enough by this point,
Speaker 4: but Caucus comes and is like you know that he
Speaker 4: sees them fighting and He's like, Okay, now's our chance
Speaker 4: to jump him. But Casca steps in and he's like, Nope,
Speaker 4: you cannot do this. Who appointed you the leader? And
Speaker 4: she kind of defers to what Griffiths says, which is
Speaker 4: the start of this kind of idea that Griffith's charisma
Speaker 4: is a core part of the Band of Hawk.
Speaker 2: It's a ris based army. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, tim You have your from software reference of the week.
Speaker 1: I would like to introduce my new my new sections
Speaker 1: called fu Carcus. Yep, yes, that's that's it. Like, there's
Speaker 1: no there's nothing to be inferred or gained.
Speaker 2: It's just it fucked that guy. God damn it. He
Speaker 2: sucks a piece of shit, definitely.
Speaker 3: I just like, where does he get off?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I done? Like why he he has this grudge?
Speaker 2: I guess maybe because guts is just sort of like
Speaker 2: shot up through the ranks real fast. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But he also want to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4: He also killed one of his homeboys, but again that
Speaker 4: was Caucus's fault also because he instigated that fight, didn't.
Speaker 2: He totally Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they tumble off the cliff and they start fist fighting,
Speaker 1: and Griffith even gets the better A guts here, he
Speaker 1: locks them in an iron bar and dislocates his shoulder
Speaker 1: and then, basically in just the most plutonic way possible,
Speaker 1: gently coops guts his face and says, you belong to me.
Speaker 4: Now I do that to my every day.
Speaker 2: To me is do that all the time. That's how
Speaker 2: I say hi to my friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's normal on ye yes game start yep, Kaska,
Speaker 1: what what is watching all this? And she's like, this
Speaker 1: is like the most interested in a person I have
Speaker 1: ever seen, Griffith.
Speaker 4: This is the gayest I've seen Griffith.
Speaker 1: This is so gay, Like what it's crazy that she
Speaker 1: says that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's the Oh do you ever?
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember the infamous Hillary Duff don't say
Speaker 3: gay advert from like fifteen years ago? Is by conic No,
Speaker 3: it's because when gay used to be used, unfortunately still
Speaker 3: is used as like an insult, Like there was a
Speaker 3: really infamous uh advert with Hillary Duff and she's just, oh.
Speaker 4: The think before you speak one? Yes, yeah, I remember
Speaker 4: I remember that being a yeah yeah, because they showed
Speaker 4: it during Sean Hannah's show, which is like, uh show
Speaker 4: during Sean Hannah is like a right wing amer Can Yeah,
Speaker 4: back in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just want to say shout out to
Speaker 3: Ally Hillary Duff. I've never derailed anything harder.
Speaker 2: She's she's she's she's alive. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 3: Gonna make they We're gonna make a Lizzie Maguire sequel
Speaker 3: on Hulu, and it was going to be an adult
Speaker 3: and it was going to be Lizzie's all grown up
Speaker 3: and now she's shagging I don't know. And then they
Speaker 3: said it was two adults that they candidate.
Speaker 1: I used to get her and Britney Murphy mixed up
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm watching King of the Hill at the moment,
Speaker 1: and god damn, Britney Murphy was all kinds of special,
Speaker 1: fucking brilliant.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: So that night, Guts is rolling around dreaming about Griffith
Speaker 1: and thinking about him.
Speaker 2: I'm not making that up. That is happens.
Speaker 1: And he hears Corcus and the boys outside being.
Speaker 2: Like, why why don't we murder this guy, only.
Speaker 1: For Kaska to stop them and don't be repeatedly proving
Speaker 1: herself as one of the best characters in this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's also just like camping out.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Guts is like tent, and it's just like
Speaker 2: I got to protect my man.
Speaker 3: I think he's just trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like I gotta protect my
Speaker 1: man's man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she.
Speaker 4: Says that she's there on his orders, right, yeah, afterwards,
Speaker 4: and they're also in front.
Speaker 2: Of those orders. Yeah, they are.
Speaker 4: Also in front of like the castle, and there's like
Speaker 4: a brief moment where two lads on the castle are
Speaker 4: like talking about the band of Hawk, and then one
Speaker 4: of them is like, yeah, what if they gain the
Speaker 4: you know, gain power and earn the king's trust, will
Speaker 4: that be a problem? And then the other older guys
Speaker 4: like maybe, And that kind of like hints at where
Speaker 4: where like things are going into a degree.
Speaker 1: Can't see this situation proceeding in a way that will
Speaker 1: affect us poorly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: So Guts kind of and Goots comes outside the tent
Speaker 1: and he says to Casco like, guess I owe you thanks,
Speaker 1: and she's like fuck off, which.
Speaker 2: She's like, go die in a battle. Basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's kind of interesting when you see
Speaker 1: Guts outside the tent here because you realize, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this dude's like maybe like fourteen Max. Yeah, like he
Speaker 1: looks like a kid in this scene.
Speaker 2: I mean, all of these warriors are like kids. I
Speaker 2: feel like, especially later on when they're like celebrating their victory,
Speaker 2: they're just sort of like no alcohol for me, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just very very young man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, they're they're they're young. They are like a
Speaker 1: little kind of Robin Hood style outfit and well no,
Speaker 1: Robin Hood's outfit. Were the merry Men, weren't they? So
Speaker 1: quite definition, they are not children, right. Goods is sad,
Speaker 1: as you know, I'm not going to say that we're
Speaker 1: going to see Goods sad lot, but.
Speaker 2: Oh boy are we.
Speaker 1: And but at the final shot of this scene is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite shots and panels like from Berserk,
Speaker 1: and it's it's Goods kind of crouched down next to
Speaker 1: some boxes in his in his tent and he's kind
Speaker 1: of just falling falling asleep holding his sword, and it's
Speaker 1: just I just think it's a really lovely shot. Like
Speaker 1: I think Berserk is such a such a beautiful, like
Speaker 1: visual storytelling kind of show, and I think this really
Speaker 1: says a lot about Goods and some really sad and
Speaker 1: beautiful ways.
Speaker 4: He's holding his sword from the pointy end. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: from the very He's like, I'm gonna hold I'm gonna
Speaker 4: follow this fall asleep holding the most dangerous part of
Speaker 4: the sword.
Speaker 2: He he has turned his sword into a teddy bear
Speaker 2: in a weird way to.
Speaker 3: Stop him falling asleep.
Speaker 1: Though it's funny you should say that, Jeff, because there's
Speaker 1: there's so again, like there's a lot cut out of
Speaker 1: the anime. There's some panels in the mango where it
Speaker 1: is him as like a five year old, like basically
Speaker 1: like holding holding a sword like its apparent, like.
Speaker 2: Holding nuzzling up to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so that is very normal for him because
Speaker 1: it's like, well.
Speaker 3: It's something that he knows will hurt him, but he
Speaker 3: will know when it hurts him. I guess like he
Speaker 3: has cut more control over the situation if you want to.
Speaker 1: Get Yeah, swords are safer than people, too goods I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of interesting stuff with like his
Speaker 1: sword and why he does keep it close and stuff.
Speaker 1: Two weeks later, we have what seems like a raid
Speaker 1: on an enemy castle and it's basically Griffith has constructed
Speaker 1: this meticulous plan and how They're going to like march
Speaker 1: through the water and the wind is going to shroud
Speaker 1: the sound of their approach. Just laid everything out really
Speaker 1: really well, and Goots is going to be the rear
Speaker 1: guard and everyone's like, fucking see you later, Goots, like you're.
Speaker 2: Done, good luck. God.
Speaker 1: His riff is more like this, dude, Griffith is so
Speaker 1: good at planning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy has a notion boards be color coded.
Speaker 1: For yeah you can. Griffith is on trello. He is
Speaker 1: he is pause passing stuff back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, he's on it.
Speaker 1: And Carcus again is like, can we have the jingle
Speaker 1: for this is good at fucking die? And it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: what is what is wrong with you?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 2: You excite the jingle?
Speaker 1: Do I need to do the jingle? Or do I
Speaker 1: need to get a clean sand by your foot?
Speaker 2: Carcus?
Speaker 1: Both okay, fuck Cork fuck Carcus. Jingle should be kind
Speaker 1: of like a.
Speaker 2: No no no no no no no, like something like that.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I mean, wait, someone did send us a jingle on
Speaker 3: Blue Sky.
Speaker 2: Which it was so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was sick, yep, But I think what's kind
Speaker 1: of fun here is like you can feel Guts's admiration
Speaker 1: of Griffiths start to grow here, like he's already kind of.
Speaker 2: Like, you know what, this is kind of fucking cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can tell. You can tell there's a respect that
Speaker 2: has blossomed.
Speaker 1: Another thing I really love about this scene and it's
Speaker 1: more like the art direction, but every character's palette has
Speaker 1: gone from being like their usual like neutral daytime colors,
Speaker 1: to being these really cold kind of blues and purples.
Speaker 1: And this is something that I really miss it when
Speaker 1: animation doesn't do it. I love when you see a
Speaker 1: character's color change depending on the lighting they're in. I
Speaker 1: just think it makes so much atmosphere. And this show
Speaker 1: is so good at it, Like, I love how this
Speaker 1: thing looks like the animation isn't well, they.
Speaker 3: Say, my TikTok is started showing me a lot of
Speaker 3: coloring book things, and there are some ways that people
Speaker 3: do coloring in like even just like the same pen,
Speaker 3: but to make it look like characters are basked in
Speaker 3: the glow from a window or the TV.
Speaker 4: And it's really cool, and it was have you have
Speaker 4: you got that one where someone cuts a fruit in
Speaker 4: half and then puts it on a paper and then
Speaker 4: draws the half that is missing to make it look
Speaker 4: exactly like the crazy.
Speaker 3: Doesn't does someone else. I follow it where they have
Speaker 3: like a tiny postcard, and then they put it on
Speaker 3: a stand or a small easel, and then they match
Speaker 3: it directly with the backdrop they painted in real life.
Speaker 2: It's good, that's dope.
Speaker 1: So the attack proceeds and starts going very real will
Speaker 1: and it's basically this.
Speaker 2: They're basically burning.
Speaker 1: Down in enemy encampments and they are working for the
Speaker 1: this lord and basically protecting his castle from these raiders
Speaker 1: who I think are part of the Oh I can't
Speaker 1: remember which side Griffith and Guts is on as Midlands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they cause all kinds of chaos and get out
Speaker 1: of there immediately, and it's Guts' job to protect them
Speaker 1: from the pursuers the regard who are going.
Speaker 2: To come after them.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I go our boy Guts
Speaker 1: not bad at the old killing, no solid, but we
Speaker 1: also loves killing.
Speaker 2: He loves killing in the just the right spot where
Speaker 2: there's no armor. It makes some such an effective killer, Jeff.
Speaker 4: We also say, like a bunch of the other members
Speaker 4: with the band of Hawk holding their own. I guess
Speaker 4: they're established, like they're not.
Speaker 2: They do seem to lose any people in this battle.
Speaker 2: As far as I can.
Speaker 1: The Band of Hawk are a group like for for
Speaker 1: all the for his as foot as they seem a
Speaker 1: bunch of fucking killers, just absolute murderers.
Speaker 2: Because if you think.
Speaker 3: A person like Griffith, he doesn't want to surround himself
Speaker 3: with chumps, like he identifies everyone's strengths and everyone works
Speaker 3: really hard to impress him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and God is all like, man, this is efficient.
Speaker 4: I'm big into this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Goods is I think it's kind of Goods
Speaker 1: his first time maybe meeting people who are on his
Speaker 1: level a little bit, and like even Judo with his
Speaker 1: little throw and dagger. It's again, it's like that kind
Speaker 1: of everyone feels. The way everyone like works feels very
Speaker 1: like unique and I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: But then so we just could we just could we
Speaker 2: just peel off for just a moment and talk about
Speaker 2: how Jeff, what would you like to talk about? But
Speaker 2: he that needless murder of someone just washing their clothes
Speaker 2: in the lake. I mean, he's you could have raised
Speaker 2: the alarm. He was a lookout washing underwear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think he was a
Speaker 1: lookout who shouldn't have been washing his underwear.
Speaker 4: I think he was someone washing his underwear that could
Speaker 4: at any moment become a lookout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what was he going to do? Throw
Speaker 1: his undies at the band of part He probably maybe
Speaker 1: made like a slight noise and got them all killed.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean the noise that would have been drowned
Speaker 2: out by the Gael Force wins.
Speaker 4: What I've learned today is Jeff Bucklot would be the
Speaker 4: shittest person to have in any sort of combative environment.
Speaker 4: You're also not a fighter, understanding, don't not get it?
Speaker 2: Famous pacifist, famous famously a pacifist, not a fighter. Famously, Hey,
Speaker 2: there wasn't that one time you stepped on.
Speaker 1: My podcast for like three years? And I do not
Speaker 1: This is the first time hearing to.
Speaker 2: This, folks. I'm getting I'm getting it from all sides.
Speaker 2: Right here? Should we take turns to go around the room?
Speaker 2: Him here? Tam, what was your accusation about me stepping
Speaker 2: on my dog on time?
Speaker 4: You actually hit your dog? Did That's not very pacifist behavior.
Speaker 2: That's not intentional. That's called an accident. That's called being
Speaker 2: a close fine, Uh Lucy, your your attempt.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't my attempt. It was just I didn't
Speaker 3: realize you were so big into peace, you were so
Speaker 3: you hate you know, you didn't know much about medieval.
Speaker 2: When inconvenience is me? John?
Speaker 1: I just feel like that if someone took a swing
Speaker 1: at me in a bar and you were with me,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, it's good Jeff's here, because.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's different. That's different. Come on, because.
Speaker 4: He's going to run away and try and find someone
Speaker 4: to help.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go find Tam and
Speaker 2: put Tam in front of me and just be like,
Speaker 2: wasn't me, it was him.
Speaker 1: I just think you play a lot of hockey. That's
Speaker 1: a very physical game.
Speaker 2: Actually, anyone in hockey.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I've never gotten into a fistfight, but I've absolutely been
Speaker 2: in you know, the scrumming. Scrumming. Oh definitely say meanwords.
Speaker 2: That's my forte. But it been a couple of scuffles.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't really punch people because you're wearing
Speaker 2: a cage, and that's not exactly what do you think
Speaker 2: about hockey?
Speaker 3: Was punched people?
Speaker 2: Okay? What a British thing to say about hockey. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, Yes there's is there fighting in hockey professional hockey. Yes,
Speaker 2: there is fighting. It's it's never been uh less frequent.
Speaker 2: It's diminishing year year. It's less and less.
Speaker 3: My interest in hockey also diminishing year.
Speaker 2: That's fine, We're that's okay. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You get their aggressional, you know, get it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm there to defend you John at the bar,
Speaker 2: like without a debt.
Speaker 1: Like I kind of hear you Jeff in that, Like
Speaker 1: I would be really bummed to ever get in like
Speaker 1: any kind.
Speaker 2: Of street fight yard. So that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I do at all.
Speaker 1: But I recreational consensual fighting.
Speaker 2: Is a great time.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you do a lot.
Speaker 1: I do, but that's with the people I like, in
Speaker 1: an environment that is safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're sparring. Yeah, I feel like sparring is like
Speaker 2: the more friendly word next to fighting. We're sparring, I think. So.
Speaker 1: I think I probably could focus someone up pretty badly
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: I would never want to. No, exactly, you're a weapon
Speaker 2: and you don't want to have to use yourself as.
Speaker 1: That very true, Just like the band of Hawk members,
Speaker 1: and so Guts kind of gets like not left behind
Speaker 1: on this raid, but he's the rear guard and he
Speaker 1: gets kind of bogged down fighting these dudes, and immediately
Speaker 1: Griffith's like, we gotta help Guts. At this is a
Speaker 1: little unusual. You can see Cask kind of reacting to this,
Speaker 1: being like what really, And the specific reasons for that
Speaker 1: will come in later episodes, but I think it's not
Speaker 1: just just to note that that is her reaction right now.
Speaker 2: She's like what?
Speaker 1: And so Griffith goes back helps Guts. They ride on
Speaker 1: the same horse, and just as it seems like it's
Speaker 1: all going to hell, they emerge from the clearing where
Speaker 1: the enemy pursuers are blown to fucking Kingdom come and
Speaker 1: we get some nice rendered pictures showing showing this all
Speaker 1: going down, and yeah, those fuckers got.
Speaker 2: Destroyed, absolutely battered. M hmm good.
Speaker 1: And then we get one of my kind of low
Speaker 1: key favorite scenes in Berserk.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of lowkey favorite scenes in Berserk.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's the favorite scenes.
Speaker 2: We'll get to them.
Speaker 3: You thought favorite scenes because you got Loki favorite.
Speaker 1: You know, Lucy, it's not oft enough to admonish you
Speaker 1: on this podcast. You know what, I like women in
Speaker 1: this Let this wash over me in the best possible way.
Speaker 1: This was a dynamic this podcast has not yet explored,
Speaker 1: and I am here for it.
Speaker 2: Carry on, carry on. I'm front row eating the popcorn.
Speaker 2: I just think you're capable of more, Lucy. That's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, But also I'm disappointed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also John, I feel like we can't let
Speaker 3: Jeff get away with this. You see how much he.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not because you know, whatever, whatever, whatever, whether Lucy
Speaker 1: succeeded or failed with that joke, Jeff, one thing she
Speaker 1: would never do is turn on a fellow co host.
Speaker 2: Never agreed, she that's great, love, Lucy.
Speaker 3: Someone should make a show they did eighty fucking years ago.
Speaker 1: So we on the ramparts of this little castle we've
Speaker 1: been protecting. We find our boy guts once again and again.
Speaker 1: He's holding his sword by the blade. He's kind of
Speaker 1: cradlin and close, and he's just being a cool owner.
Speaker 1: He's just being what every teenage boy thinks they look
Speaker 1: like when they sit down by themselves.
Speaker 2: Question Will we question? Will we find out why this
Speaker 2: show is called berserk? No? Just say yes or no? No?
Speaker 2: I mean kinder again.
Speaker 1: It's about It's about as much as like, wow, this
Speaker 1: guy sure is going wow, this young man sure is
Speaker 1: feeling Okay, well, I.
Speaker 4: Think I think the isn't isn't it named? It's named
Speaker 4: after the Norse word for viking, which is something like that.
Speaker 1: Miura has an interview about this where he's just like,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make someone who was really mad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well I'll take that one. That one's more fun.
Speaker 1: And so then he's approached by Pippin. And Pippin is
Speaker 1: such a crazy name for the big dude, isn't it?
Speaker 2: He's not great?
Speaker 4: Is it just not a reference to like stuff like
Speaker 4: Hobbits Tolkien to.
Speaker 3: Make the big the biggest Pippin.
Speaker 1: So he's approached by Judo, Pippen and the little lad.
Speaker 2: What's the little lad's name again? Ricker?
Speaker 1: He wanted to say there, but he's the guy from
Speaker 1: I want to say, right, Card, Lord of Blessed Riker, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: from software.
Speaker 4: You're from Software Reference of the Week.
Speaker 2: Spin we're putting on weak. That's from another that's one
Speaker 2: of the besties best.
Speaker 3: When you did it that time, I was like, that
Speaker 3: sounds like Ross Rush Dick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Ross from Besties.
Speaker 3: Great Video Game Podcast.
Speaker 1: An They're like, Goods, you're awesome and you should come
Speaker 1: drink with us, because that's what awesome dudes do.
Speaker 2: I like what we do.
Speaker 1: And he's like no, He's like real, uh, real, he's
Speaker 1: really batman in it up over here. Yes, And Kipping
Speaker 1: turns him upside down and carries him on his shoulder
Speaker 1: down to down to the drinking hole and guts even
Speaker 1: elbows Pippin in the face and draws blood and Pippin's
Speaker 1: just like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: There's a really brilliant like close up on Pippins's face
Speaker 4: as the as the blood is coming out of his nose,
Speaker 4: and then there's a little pause afterwards where you know
Speaker 4: that Pippin's thinking I'm gonna throw his motherfucker off this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There there was a moment where Good's going over that
Speaker 1: fucking rampart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he's like, don't be shut He also
Speaker 4: screams the exact same kind of tone and intonation as
Speaker 4: he did previously, don't touch me, but in this in
Speaker 4: this case, Pippin just carries on and it's one of
Speaker 4: those moments where it's like, oh, these people are pushing
Speaker 4: through his barriers to kind of like warm up to him.
Speaker 1: And even like the scene, like there's all these really
Speaker 1: great shots where like everyone's like congratulations, Guts, you're awesome,
Speaker 1: and just him standing open mouthed, looking left and right
Speaker 1: being like what, Like he's he's not used to this
Speaker 1: at all. He's not used to being accepted. He's not
Speaker 1: used to people like celebrating him. He's like, it's one
Speaker 1: of those moments where he really just reverts back to
Speaker 1: being a big kid and it's like, oh man, this dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it cuts to fucking Caucus hiding behind him.
Speaker 2: Caucus. He's like that. He's like, hmm that bastard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, could you do could you? Could you do that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: You want me to do? What do you want you
Speaker 2: want me to do? More? Caucus Caucus.
Speaker 1: But he's just seen Goots at the supermarket and Guts
Speaker 1: is buying food for what looks like is going to
Speaker 1: be a really awesome meal.
Speaker 3: No, No, Guts picked the last bunch of Banna's caucus
Speaker 3: needed them for a smoothie.
Speaker 2: Go for it. They has that bastard Caucus. I was
Speaker 2: taking my final bananas for that smoothie. I was planning.
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with all this protein?
Speaker 2: You put it in that bin? That bastard, that bastard,
Speaker 2: wait is your name?
Speaker 4: Ha?
Speaker 2: You Cacus?
Speaker 1: Do not interrupt him?
Speaker 2: Well, I was, I was being Caucus.
Speaker 3: Well at the beginning you said there's that bastard Caucus.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, so Jeff, that was that was exceptional,
Speaker 1: but just one small critique. At one point the problem
Speaker 1: was the carcus didn't have any bananas. But then later
Speaker 1: on he said what am I going to do with
Speaker 1: all this?
Speaker 4: And god, maybe he means that he's got protein powder
Speaker 4: and he needed the bananas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the protein powder.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, thanks damn sorry, you're the only one that gets.
Speaker 2: Made up on that. Jeff. It's okay, And that was
Speaker 2: that was great.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe with the full Carcus segments we can do
Speaker 1: more caucus improv.
Speaker 2: I would love it. I will need to remember this. Boys.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this voice is like, uh, what's your what's
Speaker 3: your word to get into it? Is it just saying caucus?
Speaker 2: I think it's caucus, simply caucus.
Speaker 3: Yes, I got off my bathroom.
Speaker 2: My name is Caucus. I'm cauking my bath It's a
Speaker 2: lovely subway tile is.
Speaker 4: Caucus a modern day like di y person from the
Speaker 4: sounds of it, because he's in a supermardert handy man.
Speaker 4: He's a handyman. Is he like a task rabbit person?
Speaker 4: But every time he goes on a task, somehow got's
Speaker 4: ruins his day.
Speaker 2: I'm a fiver, He's on a fiver.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, guys, fan fiction exists for a reason, okay,
Speaker 1: and I think we're onto some great stuff here, So
Speaker 1: I want you guys to clear the rest of your day.
Speaker 1: We will finish up recording this episode, and therein we're
Speaker 1: going to bang out what is sure to be a
Speaker 1: modern day Internet epic.
Speaker 2: Carcus the task Rabbit. Yep, yep, fantastic, brilliant.
Speaker 4: I also like that whenever Caska is on screen, her
Speaker 4: head is like just a different shaped walnuts.
Speaker 1: I love the drawings of Castle.
Speaker 4: Every time her head is like slightly wider or slightly shorter,
Speaker 4: like it's never consistently warm, always.
Speaker 1: Looks a bit weird. But I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it too.
Speaker 1: So and this kind of drink brings that first episode
Speaker 1: to a close. And I think, like as an introduction
Speaker 1: to what Berserk is, I think this is a much
Speaker 1: much stronger episode than the first two.
Speaker 2: I agree. Agree like it gives you more of a.
Speaker 3: I don't know, more of a story to follow. I
Speaker 3: think characters grow in love with.
Speaker 2: Three.
Speaker 4: It places the It clearly defines it as a show
Speaker 4: about interpersonal dynamics and relationships to a large part.
Speaker 2: Jeff, how do you feel about episode three? I thought
Speaker 2: it was strong. I uh, I think you know, they
Speaker 2: we have certainly planted some seeds. I think it was
Speaker 2: very humanizing and I enjoyed it. Again. I really just
Speaker 2: wish no one told me like anything about this going
Speaker 2: into it, because I'm I'm constantly waiting to see something
Speaker 2: horrific and it's like, no, leave me alone. I wish that.
Speaker 1: I wish that like devil wasn't on my shoulder. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you've seen a lot of it, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you can tell them this doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: These people.
Speaker 1: Everything's there's nothing worse coming up than the ship we've seen.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Okay, Greg, I feel so much better. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sleep so well tonight. How do you feel
Speaker 2: about the music? Oh? Yes, thank you for bringing that up,
Speaker 2: because someone asked me. I'm blue Sky, right, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm not your Blue Sky account holder.
Speaker 2: Well maybe it should be. I think somebody was like,
Speaker 2: how do I like the opening theme song? And I
Speaker 2: don't hate it? I think it's okay. Is it like?
Speaker 1: Is it not regarded highly by the Yeah, it's divisive. Yes,
Speaker 1: the theme is divisive.
Speaker 2: It's from n butt rock. Yes, it's very butt rock like.
Speaker 2: It's like butt rock with like someone heard like a
Speaker 2: metal song and they were like, how can I make
Speaker 2: this more butt rocks.
Speaker 4: It's very nostalgic for people who love anime and have
Speaker 4: been watching since the nightties, because it's like a from
Speaker 4: an era of Yeah, like openings to anime where the
Speaker 4: person is clearly trying to speak Japanese speak English, but
Speaker 4: they are Japanese is trying to make it work. So
Speaker 4: like this one, Naruto has a bunch. Hagimen Opo is
Speaker 4: one of my favorite and I love them. I think
Speaker 4: it's great.
Speaker 1: I'm a thousand chapters into hajimen Epo.
Speaker 2: Isn't it fantastic? My god?
Speaker 4: It's isn't it brilliant? That's the that's the series that
Speaker 4: made me pick up boxing and made me box for
Speaker 4: like two years purely you.
Speaker 2: Know, serious, I got I gotta say, m hm. There
Speaker 2: is something about the song that's also like a big
Speaker 2: garage rocky and kind of like it does seem like
Speaker 2: the composer the artists are trying to like emulate a
Speaker 2: kind of like like I said, like you said, Lucy,
Speaker 2: like a late nineties kind of like lazy rock American
Speaker 2: lazy rock. Totally. I hear that, right.
Speaker 4: How do you feel about the non opening theme songs,
Speaker 4: like you know, the the other songs that play when
Speaker 4: they're like in battle, And.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's there's one song.
Speaker 1: There's one song particularly called Forces and you'll know it
Speaker 1: because they go like, oh.
Speaker 2: Was that the one that they were playing during the battle? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: that one I kind of enjoyed. I do think there's
Speaker 2: like a weird, almost incongruent juxtaposition that the music presents,
Speaker 2: uh placed under a gore and battle, but it kind
Speaker 2: of works in a fun way too because and I
Speaker 2: also think it like lightens the mood in a way
Speaker 2: that I found kind of satisfying, where I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is fine. It's just like kind of groovy but
Speaker 2: also like death. But it's also kind of fine because
Speaker 2: it's like fun to bop your head along too.
Speaker 1: There's a two other tracks that I might we might
Speaker 1: have heard them in the last two. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: but this one called Gouts and it's just a key
Speaker 1: team of goods and it's that real.
Speaker 2: It's that one need I need to go back. Is
Speaker 2: there like a Spotify playlist or something.
Speaker 4: I I have that song bookmark, so I can send it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, you send that along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I play it on my streams when something
Speaker 1: sad happens, I have it ready always.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It starts out like November rain a little bit.
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: It's someone we used as teaser for when we finished show.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very much like oh not almost like an
Speaker 1: any thing you know, Yeah, totally right, Yeah, extremely okay,
Speaker 1: it's very and yea im good.
Speaker 2: I nailed it on the first track.
Speaker 1: And there's another song as well called bail It, which
Speaker 1: is very like it's it's it's really distinct sounding. But
Speaker 1: I generally I really like the music in the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, like you're totally right about.
Speaker 1: The incongruousness of some of the Jeff where like it
Speaker 1: does feel a little it's not orchestra music. It doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like the kind of music you typically associate with
Speaker 1: like medieval fantasy, but in a way that I love.
Speaker 1: I war not change it.
Speaker 2: I really like it.
Speaker 4: Like it feels like it's running contrary to what you're
Speaker 4: seeing on the screen, which creates this kind of chaotic
Speaker 4: kind of distinction and clash between the tone of what
Speaker 4: you're seeing and what you're hearing, which is really I
Speaker 4: really like it because you're in a moment where you
Speaker 4: know it's supposed to be like camaraderie, but then the
Speaker 4: song they uses kind of like not low energy, but
Speaker 4: kind of like somba, and it kind of has this
Speaker 4: really interesting texture to what you're seeing and what you're
Speaker 4: hearing that is in keeping with the nature of the
Speaker 4: show and the themes of the show.
Speaker 2: I think I will say that I'm becoming increasingly aware
Speaker 2: that a lot of the themes in this show are meant
Speaker 2: to help people demonstrate their intense emotions, right, Like, there's
Speaker 2: a lot there. I've only seen four episodes of this
Speaker 2: anime so far, and like, I can see how we
Speaker 2: maybe get there, but I'm just not there yet, so
Speaker 2: it's kind of tough for me to like. And again,
Speaker 2: I think we realized this in a big way less
Speaker 2: episode where there were certain themes that we started to
Speaker 2: poke at that we are not ready for prime time.
Speaker 2: But I that's what I'm That's what this journey for
Speaker 2: me is, as well as like what discovering the emotion?
Speaker 1: What I would say Jeff is like you don't need
Speaker 1: to acknowledge or discover anything that you are not experiencing
Speaker 1: in these episodes, Like like I think.
Speaker 2: But I'm a human being, John.
Speaker 1: I know, but like I guess, I don't want you
Speaker 1: to feel pressured to try and look at this show
Speaker 1: the way we're looking at it. I think that your
Speaker 1: best chance of enjoying it are just taking in at
Speaker 1: face value for what it is in the right.
Speaker 2: Why did you do a Trump impression? Why did you
Speaker 2: do that? People can't see it?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you can't say that's not because because
Speaker 4: you did the mouth that you do when you do
Speaker 4: a Trump depression, people can't see it. But that is
Speaker 4: the exact same like the bird mouth.
Speaker 2: It was there, It was there. You guys can all
Speaker 2: go fuck yourself. What what did I Why didn't I
Speaker 2: chastise you?
Speaker 4: Like a that was navy from Okarina of Time?
Speaker 2: It is the best I can do right your Trump impression.
Speaker 2: People are telling me this is a very emotional show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's doing it on purpose without passing his lips.
Speaker 1: I would be so bummed if Trump Red Berserkin liked it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be let's not you know you know what
Speaker 2: Trump would be time. He'd be one of those people.
Speaker 1: Who was like, yeah, got worse after the Black Swords Monarch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Bazuzo, great guy, never be fighting.
Speaker 1: If I was there, they would live in harmony, and
Speaker 1: that weird little Emerald will be restored to whoever owns it.
Speaker 2: Grit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, look, Jeff, that's all to say. I think
Speaker 1: there's no point you trying to view it through anyone
Speaker 1: else's lens. If you see a ship episode or an
Speaker 1: episode you don't, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Like of course I also went for Yeah.
Speaker 4: When I watched this for the I watched it before
Speaker 4: I read it. When I watched it, I most of
Speaker 4: it was lost on me, Like I was just like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is this is great?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? No, I mean like it was.
Speaker 4: I was a kid at that time, so you should
Speaker 4: have more comprehension than I did when I was watched it.
Speaker 4: But like a lot of it is you have to
Speaker 4: like really spend a lot of time thinking about it
Speaker 4: and agonizing over it. And it wasn't until I started
Speaker 4: reading it that I was like, oh, I see better
Speaker 4: now what they were going for. And then I rewatched
Speaker 4: it and I was like, oh, yeah, how did I
Speaker 4: miss this? And how I missed it was I was
Speaker 4: just a kid and like back then. Yeah, But what
Speaker 4: I'm saying is like you can enjoy it without having
Speaker 4: to see what it is you know, and in the
Speaker 4: way that read it likes you to.
Speaker 1: To me, like the most the moment where art happens
Speaker 1: is when it hits your brain and you feel it right. Like,
Speaker 1: to me, art is not retroactively looking at something and
Speaker 1: reading papers on it and being like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: what the symbolism of that scene meant. It is being
Speaker 1: there in the moment and like letting the music hit you,
Speaker 1: letting the visuals hit you, and like experiencing the story
Speaker 1: and whatever comes of that. And it's totally fine for
Speaker 1: your opinion to change on something over time.
Speaker 2: But I also think.
Speaker 1: A person's zero knowledge just flat experiencing this thing for
Speaker 1: the first time is just as interesting and as valid
Speaker 1: as anything else.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I know we've picked up this series a lot to you, Jeff,
Speaker 1: and I just want you to experience it in whichever
Speaker 1: whatever way you end up doing.
Speaker 4: Was the person who said that was the guy who
Speaker 4: has a YouTube channel dedicated to going back and explain
Speaker 4: exploring why stuff is good in retrospect.
Speaker 2: Look, we don't know that.
Speaker 1: That's all cover the formats parasocial relationship with people and
Speaker 1: drain them of their time and resources.
Speaker 2: O fantastic. Yeah, that's how we met. I know, I'm
Speaker 2: aware you think you think I don't know how this works.
Speaker 1: But so okay, Cork not Cork is Judo and Guts
Speaker 1: have a little canoe. We open up on a little
Speaker 1: morning chat between these two, and the whole, the whole
Speaker 1: kind of thrust to this conversation is, Hey, you know
Speaker 1: that Griffith guy pretty fucking awesome.
Speaker 2: But why is he awesome? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Me So the funked apart is it turns out that
Speaker 1: Griffith isn't even a Dex build. No, he's a charisma
Speaker 1: Bild's charisma belt.
Speaker 2: Ye yep.
Speaker 1: Everyone, everyone who brisbels into this dude's orbit is just
Speaker 1: drawn to him.
Speaker 4: His conversation points are just like stacked. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh now I have another show name. All right, possible
Speaker 2: show names for this episode. Okay, Griffin, Risbuild, Griffin, Risbild, Griffith. Sorry, Griffin,
Speaker 2: we have to call it Griffin, Risbild now, no, stop it,
Speaker 2: shut up.
Speaker 4: Yeah we should because then people will be like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck is this called Griffith.
Speaker 2: Griffith, Risbuild, Raider Commander or gay water fight Griffin.
Speaker 1: I'm leaning by like Risbil, Griffin, Risbeilt doing Griffin.
Speaker 2: I'm the band of Griffin now, not the band of Hawk.
Speaker 2: Griffin is easier to say.
Speaker 1: I feel like Griffin Risbild is like an amazing World
Speaker 1: of Warcraft character name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's Griffil.
Speaker 3: You know how like every time I make a character
Speaker 3: in a video game, I call it Jeff, regardless of gender,
Speaker 3: called Jeff.
Speaker 2: I've done this before I.
Speaker 3: Even knew you.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe not going to No. It was when you
Speaker 2: met me. You said you're you're the name of all
Speaker 2: my characters.
Speaker 3: You know, but I already be doing you.
Speaker 2: See, you were like, I am going to name.
Speaker 3: Character, mister ba, I'm gonna name it after you.
Speaker 2: It's kind of insulting.
Speaker 3: Actually, is Jeff Jeff's elden law dude?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no jeffs in Elden law? Is there?
Speaker 3: Jeff is an elden lord because of my Jeff?
Speaker 2: What did you say?
Speaker 4: Can you explain what you meant why he said there's
Speaker 4: no Jeff in Elden law?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because does I mean you were I thought you
Speaker 2: were saying that there are jeffs in elden ring law,
Speaker 2: so you called it elden law. Yeah, okay, okay, I
Speaker 2: thought there was a Jeff in there in in the
Speaker 2: world's in between or whatever the fuck. Okay, I thought
Speaker 2: there's a Jeff Roman around. There's not.
Speaker 1: But Judo is basically like, you know what, this Griffith dude,
Speaker 1: he's not even like normal people. He's like different. Judo
Speaker 1: says that, so you can tell everyone here is like
Speaker 1: they're all subscribing to his substack, if you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a con. I don't really know what
Speaker 2: a substack is. It's a newsletter, that's all it is.
Speaker 2: It's a blog that gets delivered to you, that's all
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: It's a very canceled newsletter. It's actually recently canceled. The
Speaker 4: new hot one is Ghost dot Io.
Speaker 2: Oh Ghost for a minute, actually have a newsletter, do you? Yeah? Wait?
Speaker 2: Why is Substack out of Vogue? Though?
Speaker 4: We don't need to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fine, but yeah Ghost is good too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: ghosts all right, John Substacks go your thoughts?
Speaker 1: What I don't I don't know anything about I guess
Speaker 1: it's been canceled, so bad.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about. Move on, move on the right take okay, okay, cool?
Speaker 2: Anyway back to Griffith.
Speaker 1: So, Judo and Goots have this lovely little conversation and
Speaker 1: then Guts and Judo's like, I think you're going to
Speaker 1: fit in just fine here, buddy, and Guts is like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck does he mean? And he walks down
Speaker 1: stas and then he meets Bollock naked Griffith dick out,
Speaker 1: dig out and presumably balls out as well. What a sight, yep,
Speaker 1: And Griffith's like, ah, being naked and getting drenched in
Speaker 1: cold water is an excellent way to wake up in
Speaker 1: the morning, and he's like, would you like to join me?
Speaker 1: Goots and Goods is like, no thanks, and that's when
Speaker 1: Griffith throws some water on him. M did you like
Speaker 1: my goots, Lucy?
Speaker 2: Did you appreciate it? I actually did.
Speaker 3: Do you know what? I been watching the Blu Ray.
Speaker 3: Thank you to crunchy roll providing uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Control day right yesterday, and I really appreciated it.
Speaker 1: That what a beautiful blue ray.
Speaker 2: Beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's lovely. Thank you to Control for that.
Speaker 2: Thank you crunchy Roll.
Speaker 3: I like how just got his copy of the Blue Ray?
Speaker 3: Forgetting that we are on audio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know I wanted to see something because
Speaker 2: it wasn't working on my PlayStation and I thought it
Speaker 2: was like an ntsc PAL thing. But it's no, it's
Speaker 2: these cm A so dc HP whatever that is. So
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. It's all good. I really like.
Speaker 1: In this scene, there's a really funny frame where Griffith
Speaker 1: throws water at guts and.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, what was that. It's all like Gaussian blurred
Speaker 2: for a second. It's real weird.
Speaker 1: It's Gaussian blurred, except.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you took a bunch of drugs.
Speaker 1: It's it's not blurred. It's like but it's the effect
Speaker 1: of being blurred. It's it's it's it's some animator who
Speaker 1: is told to make it look blurry, and it is,
Speaker 1: so he just looks squiggly and it's really funny and cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his soul leaves his body for a second. It's
Speaker 2: very bizarre.
Speaker 3: But what I was going to say is that Guts's
Speaker 3: voice to me, Uh, I expected him to be gruffer,
Speaker 3: like even more detached.
Speaker 2: I think he has.
Speaker 3: If anything, the voice actor is too good and he
Speaker 3: has too much emotion. I expect him. I expected Guts
Speaker 3: to be way more sort of one note.
Speaker 1: I could maybe see that for Goots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, because I've seen it so like
Speaker 3: from here, but I mean even a lot happened to him. Hm.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And so then they proceed to enter the most heterosexual
Speaker 1: water fight of all time.
Speaker 2: Yep, nothing but straights doing straight things there, Yep, totally.
Speaker 1: And after it, Griffith's like, hey, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a fucking king.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just a nonchalant way in which he describes
Speaker 3: that is so fucked up, And like, Jeff, how did
Speaker 3: you feel about it? Uh?
Speaker 2: The way he has this confidence about him, What.
Speaker 3: Do you I mean when he when he said like, hey,
Speaker 3: I have this thing around my neck, it means I'm
Speaker 3: going to rule the world one day.
Speaker 2: How did you as if that's a thing you just
Speaker 2: drop mid mid casual conversation, He's like, Uh, this is
Speaker 2: a pretty badass piece of jewelry, isn't it. You know
Speaker 2: what it says? There, guts? What's that Griffith, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be fucking god one day? Oh I've I thought we
Speaker 2: broke new ground with our little water fight there, but no,
Speaker 2: apparently you're a psycho. I am.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking living for this, like berserk fan fiction that
Speaker 1: Jef's been producing.
Speaker 2: This episode he's putting.
Speaker 4: In the gaps. Yeah in this saying way.
Speaker 2: Yep, thanks. There's also a moment where it gots holds
Speaker 2: the thing he does and then he sees and remember
Speaker 2: I was describing this little gem reminded me of like
Speaker 2: a d MC gem correct correct the right, And I
Speaker 2: was like the rest of the week read. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's noses and ears on that thing. That's ugly. And
Speaker 2: no one said like, yeah, you're right, you guys just
Speaker 2: all like he kept on talking, you need to put
Speaker 2: in the back for every fucking little thing. You know what,
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do, I really do. It feels good I'll
Speaker 2: try and be more mindful in the future. In the case,
Speaker 2: I apologize. But yeah, uh, that little nose rock, that
Speaker 2: little nose orb, that e orbit, one of those eyeballs
Speaker 2: seems to open up and wink at our boy. And uh,
Speaker 2: he didn't like that one bit.
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't like any one bit. You can buy that,
Speaker 2: by the way, if you if you're interested. Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: sure I could three D print it tomorrow.
Speaker 3: What do you want to do today?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm busy. You could be the king today. And
Speaker 4: he decided to defer to another.
Speaker 1: Listener that Jeff is wearing a really beautiful T shirt
Speaker 1: from my patuos dot com.
Speaker 3: And did you just notice that just really slowly took
Speaker 3: his jacket of.
Speaker 1: It's weird and I'm sure just it's just look, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm proud to focus that T shirt.
Speaker 3: Like I really love the Ipatchrolls T shirt that I
Speaker 3: go in the Washington takets to Japan.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Look, I always say it, and I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: all I am chilling. But it good. They're good quality,
Speaker 1: aren't they like? They feel they feel nice.
Speaker 4: I wear my one when I want something comfy because
Speaker 4: it's nice and thick, it's got a high threat count.
Speaker 2: YEP, it's me. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: I had to wade my way through about a dozen
Speaker 1: really shitty manufacturers before I found that one job. So
Speaker 1: there's a bit I really like here where like, you know, Good,
Speaker 1: like Griffith is kind of like, oh, I want to
Speaker 1: be king, and Good's like, well, that's fucking insane. And
Speaker 1: I guess this is one of the things I just
Speaker 1: appreciate so much about because Berserk's character writing, it's like
Speaker 1: that's an interesting exchange. But then it's like Griffith's sentiment
Speaker 1: and confidence like has an effect on Goods, and you
Speaker 1: could see it here where he's like, this dude is
Speaker 1: like my age and he has a band of like
Speaker 1: mercenaries and he wants to be king. What the fuck
Speaker 1: am I?
Speaker 2: Like? What have I been doing? Like I have been?
Speaker 2: What am I think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I have been And then this is
Speaker 1: where we start to get like a flashback. But I
Speaker 1: just really appreciate the kind of like have you ever
Speaker 1: got guys, ever.
Speaker 2: Met anyone like that?
Speaker 1: Where you're like, oh my god, this person has their
Speaker 1: shit so together and what the fuck am I?
Speaker 2: Nope? I'm still searching for that person.
Speaker 4: I guess you're that person to unlucky Stacey.
Speaker 2: Jesus Nice. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are some people where I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: how do you get everything done? But then I'm also
Speaker 3: on a lot of people's close friends stories on Instagram,
Speaker 3: so I was like, ah, yeah, you're just as messed
Speaker 3: up as the rest of us, you just hide it
Speaker 3: much better.
Speaker 2: Mmm.
Speaker 1: I think I remember like getting really into anime and
Speaker 1: stuff when I was a teenager, and then eventually meeting
Speaker 1: other teenagers who are into anime and they had been
Speaker 1: drawing it and I hadn't, and realizing how skilled they were,
Speaker 1: and I felt really behind. And this really reminds.
Speaker 2: Me of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I know. I think there's also
Speaker 3: like TikTok and YouTubers who love again like shout out
Speaker 3: to notion again, but I think productivity YouTubers and tiktoks
Speaker 3: it's just like the ones that I really like watching
Speaker 3: people clean their houses. But it is so clear that
Speaker 3: some people keep an immaculate house, but then they mess
Speaker 3: it up just for the purpose of a video, and
Speaker 3: so it's like, what are you trying to do? Like
Speaker 3: you're trying to. I don't know use it's like a
Speaker 3: social couracter.
Speaker 4: I think when you see people like that are super clean,
Speaker 4: sometimes you're like, yeah, this person's going together. What you
Speaker 4: don't realize is the person's going insane trying to keep
Speaker 4: everything super clean.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I'm like, the.
Speaker 1: Person I know is fucking insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's you. How usually if I see things
Speaker 2: in my.
Speaker 4: Apartment that are like out of place, I will fucking
Speaker 4: organize and I see the only thing I can think
Speaker 4: about for ages and I have to go and fix it. No,
Speaker 4: I have like you can see a paper on my
Speaker 4: floor currently right now.
Speaker 2: It's driving me mad.
Speaker 1: So Guts is like what I what have I been
Speaker 1: doing the last four years? And we basically begin the
Speaker 1: majority the what is the Guts of this episode? In
Speaker 1: the Get This Big Long Hate look earned the Big
Speaker 1: Books for a reason.
Speaker 4: Okay, one other thing, having did you notice how like
Speaker 4: Guts with wet hair in this scene is like looks
Speaker 4: completely different in demeanor from Guts when he's like got
Speaker 4: his normal past ole. He looks like softer and like
Speaker 4: he's got like doe eyes. And they changed the way
Speaker 4: they draw yeah, they Yeah, exactly, they changed the way
Speaker 4: they draw him.
Speaker 2: That's lust, my friends. Yeah, that is last. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 2: thank you Tam for also posting the insane wet photos
Speaker 2: of drawings.
Speaker 1: The version of wet just to say he actually posted
Speaker 1: the first one.
Speaker 2: The Guts one. Good job, good job.
Speaker 4: I think the Guts one looks funny, but the one
Speaker 4: of Griffith looks just insane, is just melted like.
Speaker 3: Pokemon watch John Wick just posted just guys being dud
Speaker 3: John Looke at work.
Speaker 2: It just gets The.
Speaker 3: Griffith one looks like a cuddly toy version of him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just to me, he just genuinely looks like
Speaker 4: the it from Pokemon.
Speaker 1: So we get the We entered this flashback and we
Speaker 1: basically are told the story of Guts. There's this captain
Speaker 1: of this like really small time, really ragtag like even
Speaker 1: much more so than the band of Park, this little
Speaker 1: bandit group, I guess, this little mercenary group, and how
Speaker 1: the captain of this mercenary groups like Lady, found Guts
Speaker 1: his under his dead mother and adopted him, only for
Speaker 1: her to die shortly thereafter, which made a lot of
Speaker 1: people think that Guts is cursed and he's his cursed
Speaker 1: little tiny boy child, and he he just begins following
Speaker 1: he begins following this guy around, and the dude is
Speaker 1: an absolute fucking asshole, like just does not seem to
Speaker 1: care Guts is alive, just not anything. We also get
Speaker 1: another really great shot here, and it's Guts as a kid,
Speaker 1: surrounded by warriors and he's just in the center and
Speaker 1: again he's kind of just cradling the blade.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, did we talk last time about
Speaker 3: the circumstances in which Guts was born? I think we did, I.
Speaker 1: Think briefly, but it might have got cut because I
Speaker 1: accidentally entered spoiler territory last time, not realizing it's in
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the fact that he fell out of
Speaker 3: his mother's dead hanging body.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? I didn't know that way you're telling me?
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, that's what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Hello? It's it's bizarre, they say it.
Speaker 3: It's like they found him beneath the mother's body and
Speaker 3: it shows you the picture of the body's hanging in
Speaker 3: the tree.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I don't think it's one of those
Speaker 4: uncessarily don't worry.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lot of sad thing that happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's one of those things.
Speaker 4: Now because of the nature of this being an adaptation
Speaker 4: that needs to be viewable on TV. They like they
Speaker 4: skirt around certain things. I think that's they really they
Speaker 4: really did gloss over that. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 4: if they come back to it. I can't remember, but.
Speaker 1: I don't know they think so, Yeah, they leave out
Speaker 1: of this bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite the picture you've painted.
Speaker 1: What is what's goods is not Dad but his man
Speaker 1: who Gamerina?
Speaker 2: Gambino? Yeah, called Gambino? Fuck Gambino. Yeah, but why is
Speaker 2: it called Gambino? It's just a name. Why are you
Speaker 2: called Jeff? No? But like it was a Gambino in
Speaker 2: this in this world? Like sure, what what would you
Speaker 2: give it? It's Italian? I think, yeah, I know it's Italian. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, just like Thark. He seems like a Thark. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the h A R K Thark. That what I don't
Speaker 2: even know. My name is tarc Like what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That Gambino? Like what is that?
Speaker 4: I think there's something about his legs involved. I think
Speaker 4: it's like it means, let me google, it's something to
Speaker 4: do with his legs because I remember it being something irony.
Speaker 4: I think it means like someone with like a gammy leg,
Speaker 4: which is ironic given what happens to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Italian word derived from gamba, meaning leg, used as
Speaker 4: a nickname for someone who has short legs.
Speaker 2: Which I think I might be a Gambino.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which later on obviously we see that. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: see later on he gets injured. Yeah, he gets injured
Speaker 4: and is his legs that are mainly her from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's basically what happens this. This dude is
Speaker 1: like I guess, kind of teaching Gots to fight, but
Speaker 1: he kind of just beats the ship out of him,
Speaker 1: and the Guts accompanies him on battles. He's a squire
Speaker 1: until Gambino is has his ass obliterated by can and
Speaker 1: fire and becomes unable to fight anymore. And there's this,
Speaker 1: really there's something that I had to scene. I always
Speaker 1: find that like really upsetting. But it's like Gambino sitting
Speaker 1: on this hill in a wooden chair stroking his dog,
Speaker 1: and Guts comes up and he's like, Gambino or I
Speaker 1: killed the captain. I did it, And he's like, you.
Speaker 2: Got any meat from my dog. Yeah, you know this
Speaker 2: dog that I've never introduced at all. It's the first
Speaker 2: time you're seeing this dog that I care about him
Speaker 2: eating familiar with.
Speaker 1: There's like this kind of thing in Brazik sometimes where
Speaker 1: like this theme of like the beast, and personally, I
Speaker 1: think like it's maybe people reaching maybe a little too far.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting that Cambino does have like a dog
Speaker 1: here and that it's kind of this negative thing that
Speaker 1: kind of becomes other things later on.
Speaker 3: It's like he's showing more affection to this dog than
Speaker 3: he did Guts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Debino is voiced by the same person that voices the
Speaker 4: Japanese version of m Bison No shit, yep.
Speaker 1: This is also a scene that has been completely cut
Speaker 1: from this and again yes, suntent orning here, huge huge
Speaker 1: content warning.
Speaker 2: And this is this.
Speaker 1: There is a scene that is missing from the anime
Speaker 1: where Guts is sold to another man for the night.
Speaker 1: It is deeply upsetting. It is really really horrifying, and
Speaker 1: it is I think a really important part of Goots's character.
Speaker 1: I understand if people don't wouldn't want to engage with it,
Speaker 1: and I can understand the logic of keeping out of this,
Speaker 1: but I just think there are so few pieces of
Speaker 1: media that will cover this territory with any degree of
Speaker 1: I guess the magnitude it needs, and I think Berzerk
Speaker 1: is totally one of them.
Speaker 2: How are you meant to absorb that dimension with them
Speaker 2: leaving that out? Is my question?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like that's one of the that's one
Speaker 4: of the kind of sacrifices that you make when just
Speaker 4: watching this, Like it's like I didn't know that was
Speaker 4: the thing until I read it, and then I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just shocked because it was also left
Speaker 1: out of the movies yep, and the movies that I
Speaker 1: first saw, and it's actually been reintroduced in a recall
Speaker 1: of those movies that was turned into a TV show.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's true because you're.
Speaker 2: I watched this and I'm like, oh, Thark is just
Speaker 2: the bad guy.
Speaker 1: You know, dark sucks, Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just like he's got he's got like dog problems.
Speaker 4: It kind of feeds into the whole like resentment he
Speaker 4: holds towards him because of what happened to his wife,
Speaker 4: and it's it's it just really further emphasizes how cruel
Speaker 4: and how worthless he he thinks of God says, which
Speaker 4: in this series. In the animated series, they used the
Speaker 4: dog to just beat be All in all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but good old Gambino Dark really shooting for Father
Speaker 1: of the Year here basically tries to also cut Goots
Speaker 1: in half at night. Yeah, And I think it's basically
Speaker 1: like he sees Goots rising up, he sees Goots become
Speaker 1: a warrior. He is now crippled to the point that
Speaker 1: he cannot be a warrior. And it's just pure raw
Speaker 1: resentments and it's really fucked up. And you get this
Speaker 1: scene where Guts kills Gambino before accidentally setting fire to
Speaker 1: the tent. He is then pursued by the other bandits
Speaker 1: who think that Gouts just I guess, decided to do
Speaker 1: this as opposed to defending himself. And we just get
Speaker 1: this harrowing scene of Guts escaping in the rain before
Speaker 1: being attacked by fucking wolves. And it is really just
Speaker 1: like this kid cannot catch a break, like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets shot in the back with an arrow
Speaker 2: and then falls down mountain range yep, and then wakes
Speaker 2: up on ice. Yeah. It's a really actually it's a
Speaker 2: really beautiful scene.
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, he also gives up, like there's a
Speaker 4: moment where he just gives up. But I've had right,
Speaker 4: I'm done, And then he said, and he kills.
Speaker 2: The wolf, right, And then is that where they ended?
Speaker 2: That's where they ended pretty much? No, he like screams,
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, yeah, and then it cuts back to
Speaker 2: the battle.
Speaker 1: Then then we cut back to like little quota way
Speaker 1: of just good fighting someone and killing and then we
Speaker 1: get a really another really beautiful shot of this battlefield
Speaker 1: absolutely strewn with bodies, like the ground is just covered
Speaker 1: and our friend Griffith is once again walking along the
Speaker 1: streets and again Node just dick out once again, no
Speaker 1: context as to why. And he finds Guts on the
Speaker 1: battlefield and he's like, hey, used to live. And we
Speaker 1: get another scene between Guts and Griffith kind of and
Speaker 1: Guts is again he's got he's doing that cradling of
Speaker 1: the sword thing. So with the sexual assault scene, one
Speaker 1: of the things that happens during that scene is Guts
Speaker 1: reaches for his sword and he can't get to it,
Speaker 1: and so I think one of the reasons he does
Speaker 1: hold his sword like that is because like subconsciously he
Speaker 1: feels like if his sword isn't within reach, really bad
Speaker 1: things happen. Like that's kind of that's part of his trauma,
Speaker 1: and so that's why you see him hold the sword
Speaker 1: like this so.
Speaker 2: Often in these scenes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and at this point, Griffith is kind of imparting
Speaker 1: on Guts his whole kind of philosophy.
Speaker 2: What do you guys think of this scene? I like
Speaker 2: it a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this whole like a charisma element right where
Speaker 4: he's making Guts rethink his approach to life and slowly
Speaker 4: winning him over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the whole, like we've.
Speaker 4: It's very relatable, the idea of, like, you know, trying
Speaker 4: to figure out why you exist and what are the
Speaker 4: upper limits of what you can do? I'm a various
Speaker 4: predetermined or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Griffith's kind of thing is sort of like
Speaker 1: he has this line where he says that he's going
Speaker 1: to choose when Guts dies.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't like that at all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose when you die, Jeff, I will choose
Speaker 1: the place you die for me, is what he says.
Speaker 1: But I think, like I don't think he actually really
Speaker 1: means that directly. I think that's this dude's way of being, Like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you rather have a place in my story like
Speaker 1: which will be amazing rather than your shitty life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, sure, I yeah. I mean Gus has not
Speaker 2: had a good one.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I think if your guts at this point,
Speaker 1: you're like this, it seems are right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first friendly face I've seen in about seventeen years.
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's let's let's see it through the next sears.
Speaker 3: One of my favorites old domb sub situation.
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, Oh my god, Lucy.
Speaker 3: What have you ever see like Secretary or something?
Speaker 2: Dude, I have I've never seen that movie.
Speaker 3: No, Secretary of Rocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maggie Gillenhall.
Speaker 1: Yes, James Spader, James Guiden series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just that movie. Where's he James Spader's Ultron?
Speaker 2: Is that the last thing he's been doing? I was
Speaker 2: I was looking for him the other day. I couldn't
Speaker 2: find him.
Speaker 3: Looking for him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, like what's James Spader up to? Like I
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll check in on celebrities or actors. I'm just like,
Speaker 2: what have they done? Like, like, where's Matt Ill? In
Speaker 2: bin and he was in like a Wes Anderson movie
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. It was the last time
Speaker 2: you popped up.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't get a little scene with the
Speaker 1: Is this the scene you were talking about tim with
Speaker 1: them Guts and Rickert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of my favorites. I love this. What
Speaker 2: do you look about this?
Speaker 4: It's just like a little bit of comedy and Levy.
Speaker 4: It's the it's the way Pippin pops in at the end.
Speaker 2: I find.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Pippen's kind of bad in a hundred.
Speaker 2: Isn't he? Like, Yeah, he's fantastic. He's just a goofball,
Speaker 2: big lovable goofball.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, totally. It's always weird. Mura says that of
Speaker 1: every character in Berserk, he identifies the most with Pippin.
Speaker 4: That makes sense, very like Quiet doesn't say economy of words.
Speaker 2: More like I think a little bit, I think a.
Speaker 4: Little actions through emotions, through actions is very Pippin.
Speaker 1: We find out the Guts has been promoted to commander,
Speaker 1: which is unheard of, and like.
Speaker 2: He's been with these dudes raider comm and.
Speaker 1: Then we cut forward three years and let me tell
Speaker 1: you our boy Guts put on a little bulk. I
Speaker 1: ain't no little boy anymore. No, he's a little man.
Speaker 2: Man. We've both got there.
Speaker 3: What's a bulk is? I don't know. Found as found
Speaker 3: his people?
Speaker 1: Yep, he's found his people and he is whooping ass
Speaker 1: on the battlefield and people are like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is that? And then Griffith emerges as well, and he
Speaker 1: is also looking grown up and like he knows what
Speaker 1: he's about, and people are like, holy shit, it's the
Speaker 1: death of the battlefield. It's Griffith. And then we freeze frame,
Speaker 1: cut the credits, and that's going to draw this episode
Speaker 1: to a close. I think, another super super strong episode.
Speaker 1: I love how much of the series kind of carries
Speaker 1: through this one. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: I like these two better than the first two for sure.
Speaker 2: Much more character building, much more world building, and I'm
Speaker 2: beginning to place my investments in these characters accordingly. So
Speaker 2: yep to the moon Baby with Caucus. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's been sick. These are these have been good. This
Speaker 2: is a good anime. Just give us, just give us like.
Speaker 1: Ten seconds of Corcus having lost all this money in cryptocurrency.
Speaker 2: I get all these emails that they're telling me, I
Speaker 2: should be buy long diamond hands and all this riff raff.
Speaker 2: Yet I've bought thirty thousand coins worth of doge.
Speaker 3: I have slightly giving. It's slightly giving nosferatu.
Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't seen as faratu, so I'm still taking
Speaker 2: credit for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not the cryptocurrency, but it's.
Speaker 2: Like the crypto, like it's it's not crypto. Bro cousin
Speaker 2: took all my money, said, don't worry, Caucus, your money's
Speaker 2: safe with me to the moon.
Speaker 1: He said, okay, and now you've just seen the guts
Speaker 1: made a lot of money off ethereum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this bastard god, how did he know about Ethereum's
Speaker 2: pop in Q one of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: All right, now we have Caucus being realized that he's
Speaker 4: he's been the victim of a rug pole.
Speaker 2: The moment he realized to a coin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he so he went all in on hawk to
Speaker 4: her and he's been rug pulled. This is the moment
Speaker 4: he woke up and noticed that the rug bull has happened.
Speaker 4: He's looking at his phone.
Speaker 2: Minus four thousand. What's the meaning of this? I was
Speaker 2: told guaranteed gaines to a coin trump coin for nothing.
Speaker 2: I'll be speaking to my crypto bro cousin about this one.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: For this week's episode of Jeff Jeff Bizarre Adventure, thank
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Speaker 2: That's what I like. I want that lukewarm reaction. That's
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Speaker 3: Bye.
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