Speaker 1: You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
Speaker 1: In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
Speaker 1: bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
Speaker 1: seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
Speaker 1: to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 2: These are the.
Speaker 1: Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,
Speaker 1: because today you'll hear another account that just might change
Speaker 1: the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,
Speaker 1: all right, Pick the Society. We get the privilege of
Speaker 1: talking to mister Frank Fisher today. Frank is an individual
Speaker 1: got connected to He's a fisherman and an outdoorsman. He
Speaker 1: had a really interesting thing happen that greatly affected him
Speaker 1: as we were talking a little bit before the show started.
Speaker 1: It really really got him curious, shook him up too.
Speaker 1: So welcome to the show, Frank. Carry you doing today, sir?
Speaker 3: Oh? Thanks man. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to be able to talk to somebody that
Speaker 3: I might be able to get some information from. I
Speaker 3: wish I could have talked to you about a month
Speaker 3: or so ago when it first halpened, you know, but
Speaker 3: it's still very fresh in my brain, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And man, just the fact that it's within it's like
Speaker 1: a month, month and a half. I mean that is
Speaker 1: extremely recent for this field. A lot of people I
Speaker 1: talked to it's like, well, it happened twenty thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: but I mean a month that's pretty wild. So Frank,
Speaker 1: can you take us to what area this happened in
Speaker 1: and what was going on that day?
Speaker 3: Well, the area is it's just over the Georgia borderline
Speaker 3: into Alabama off of I twenty. It's like brand Burne
Speaker 3: Muscadine area. Some people refer to it as Hafflin Crewver's
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's it's a bunch of small towns out there.
Speaker 3: And uh, it was right off I twenty, like I say,
Speaker 3: near exit two ten. Uh. And uh, actually I had
Speaker 3: UH before I even moved out here. I Uh, I
Speaker 3: had checked into UH on the on the bfr OH
Speaker 3: website they have you know, sightings, and the last two
Speaker 3: sightings that they had out here in Alabama were in
Speaker 3: this area. So I, you know, I saw that I
Speaker 3: was like, oh man, this is wild. You know. I
Speaker 3: called my son because you know, we we like talking
Speaker 3: about you know, Bigfoot. It's it's it's an interesting comp
Speaker 3: you know, conversation, interesting copic and uh so like we're
Speaker 3: we're talking about this, and you know, at the time,
Speaker 3: I didn't think anything would ever come of it. Well,
Speaker 3: about a month or so ago, I got up, it
Speaker 3: was about four o'clock in the morning, and I turned
Speaker 3: a back light on to let the dogs out in
Speaker 3: the backyard. And it's just a little bug light. It's
Speaker 3: not a very bright light. Well, it's probably about maybe
Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty feet maybe give or takes
Speaker 3: them a There's an area in my property. I sit
Speaker 3: up high at where my house is at. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like on a little hill, and then the property
Speaker 3: dips down to a drainage and the drainage runs through
Speaker 3: the property and then it goes back up and it
Speaker 3: leads out into the woods. I mean, I'm all surrounded.
Speaker 3: I'm not far at all from the Talladega National Forest.
Speaker 3: And you've got like Talladega and then you've got it's
Speaker 3: like all green belt. If you look at it on
Speaker 3: the map. Uh it's it's a huge, just a huge
Speaker 3: forest area. It goes off into Georgia and it expands
Speaker 3: and goes out all through Alabama. This we're not that
Speaker 3: far from a Chehaw Mountain. It's the highest elevation in Alabama.
Speaker 3: I forget what it is, somewhere around four thousand and
Speaker 3: four thousand, five hundred feet and so. Anyways, so I
Speaker 3: turned on the light and out there near this drainage,
Speaker 3: I catch an eye. It's just one eye, but it
Speaker 3: was huge. It was a red maybe a reddish orange
Speaker 3: kind of eye glowing and the slash light. Yeah, with
Speaker 3: the bug light on the on the on the on
Speaker 3: the house. I mean, you know, a bug light doesn't
Speaker 3: give off much light, right, and I would imagine that
Speaker 3: this eye had to be pretty big and s incident
Speaker 3: to be able to you know, reflect the light of
Speaker 3: just this bug light. So I grabbed my flashlight because
Speaker 3: we have a flashlight right next to the door, and
Speaker 3: I shined the flashlight out there. Now, the flashlight needs
Speaker 3: new batteries. Again. I wish I would have had a
Speaker 3: better flashlight at the time, but I didn't. And I
Speaker 3: shined it out there, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: got these two huge red glowing eyes looking at me,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the heck is that? And I
Speaker 3: mean they're far apart, it's not like they're close together.
Speaker 3: And it actually looked at me for you know, a
Speaker 3: couple of seconds, and then you could you could make
Speaker 3: out this whatever it was like turning its head because
Speaker 3: the way the eye shine went away, you know, you
Speaker 3: see the eye shine diminish. I'm like, man, where did
Speaker 3: it go? So I started scanning around real quick, and
Speaker 3: it had already made it up the hill going back
Speaker 3: up the other side, heading towards the wor it had
Speaker 3: already made it up about over half the way when
Speaker 3: I caught it again. So and I mean the thing
Speaker 3: turned around and looked at me. It didn't just get
Speaker 3: scared because of the flashlight and take off running. And
Speaker 3: that was the end. It turned and looked at me again,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, look at this thing, you know, what
Speaker 3: the heck is this? And again it turned it and
Speaker 3: like I say, when it turned.
Speaker 4: Its head, it I can't say it looked like it
Speaker 4: was on a neck, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 4: a human where you know, you have your body because.
Speaker 3: If it was a bear, because we have bears out here,
Speaker 3: We've found a few bear tracks in the yard, so
Speaker 3: I know there's bear out here. And that's pretty much
Speaker 3: what I was thinking it was at the time when
Speaker 3: I first started watching this thing, I'm thinking, you know,
Speaker 3: what is this a bear? You know, well, the way
Speaker 3: it turned its head just it looked more like it
Speaker 3: was set up, like I say, on a pair of
Speaker 3: shoulders and neck. Anyway, So it turned and I lost
Speaker 3: it again because it turned and walked away and it
Speaker 3: was out of its eyes were out of the shine
Speaker 3: of the flashlight. So I started scanning around again, and
Speaker 3: then I picked it up one more time. It stopped
Speaker 3: at the top of the hill and was turned looking
Speaker 3: at me again, and I'm like, God to see, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean that really kind of like I thought, that
Speaker 3: was really neat. It kind of freak me out. I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: what is this, What's gonna stop and turn and look
Speaker 3: at me? I mean, even a bear, even though it's
Speaker 3: a big predator, you know, and you know, I'm sure
Speaker 3: they are very self confident, and you know, he might
Speaker 3: have been looking back to see if you know, I
Speaker 3: was going to go after him or something. But you
Speaker 3: know a lot of times, even bears, they just turn
Speaker 3: around and run and take off from what I you know,
Speaker 3: a little bit I've seen of them. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: caught it in the light for the second time. I
Speaker 3: turned back and looked at me, and then it was
Speaker 3: often too the woods. And you know, as far as
Speaker 3: like being able to tell how high it was, how
Speaker 3: tall it was, like I sit up on the highest
Speaker 3: point in my property and it was down at the
Speaker 3: lowest point, and then it went back up and it
Speaker 3: was it was at night. There wasn't any reference points,
Speaker 3: you know, so I tried to to, you know, think
Speaker 3: in my mind exactly what you know about where the
Speaker 3: eyes were, especially when it was on the other side
Speaker 3: of the property and down at the very bottom. I
Speaker 3: went down there, and you know, it's just it's so
Speaker 3: hard to say, I mean, because if it was a bear,
Speaker 3: it would have been obvious that it only would have
Speaker 3: been maybe three feet off the ground or something. But
Speaker 3: I just have a feeling it wasn't It wasn't that small.
Speaker 3: You know, it seemed like it it might had some
Speaker 3: some height to it, just because of the way that uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the the eye shine was, like I say,
Speaker 3: and at the bottom, at the top, it seemed like
Speaker 3: it was more, especially at the top, it was more
Speaker 3: like the background of the woods, not so much the
Speaker 3: background of the ground that it was standing on, because
Speaker 3: you know, if it's small and you're looking at it,
Speaker 3: it's gonna look like it's it's it's small, and you're
Speaker 3: going to see the ground all around it, not not
Speaker 3: the the oft in the distance where the woods and
Speaker 3: the sky is starting and everything. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know so.
Speaker 3: Uh and that that was. That was pretty much it.
Speaker 3: And I, you know, I I went ahead and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, brought the dogs in and uh oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And and before that had happened, I got I got
Speaker 3: a little uh, I got a little pitfull. And she's
Speaker 3: not afraid of anything. She's she's a tough little dog,
Speaker 3: and she was there was a couple of nights before
Speaker 3: I had I had had this, you know experience. She
Speaker 3: was like throwing herself at the back and again that
Speaker 3: could have been you know, if there was a bear
Speaker 3: and it was in the back yard there, I'm sure
Speaker 3: that would have freaked her out too. But you know,
Speaker 3: she really had me wondering it was it was. It
Speaker 3: had happened two nights in a row where she was
Speaker 3: just like out there, and because usually she just sits
Speaker 3: at the back door and doesn't do anything, she might
Speaker 3: paw off the back door a little bit. But there
Speaker 3: was something out there was that was spooking her. And
Speaker 3: we got a lot of coyotes around too, that you
Speaker 3: know that that could have been it possibly, uh, And
Speaker 3: I've seen plenty of coyotes at night. And I mean
Speaker 3: I looked, I just scoured the internet trying to find
Speaker 3: anything on eyeshine, and I looked there was a finding
Speaker 3: big foot. It was called the Kentucky Eyeshine And I
Speaker 3: looked at that video and I compared in my you know,
Speaker 3: in my mind, of course, uh, what I had what
Speaker 3: I had saw for what they had, and the spacing
Speaker 3: was about the same, but it just seemed like what
Speaker 3: I saw had had bigger eyes. And you know, I
Speaker 3: was talking with some people and they said, well, maybe
Speaker 3: it was an owl, because I mean there's some huge
Speaker 3: rats and all kinds of you know, little garments, skunks
Speaker 3: and rats. We're not skunks probably, but rabbits and ramadillos,
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff that's you know, just a
Speaker 3: little native animals that that owls could pick up at night.
Speaker 3: But I just can't see an owl turning back and
Speaker 3: looking at me and a bear possibly. But if it
Speaker 3: was a bear, it was a lobber, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 3: because those eyes were set far apart, man far apart,
Speaker 3: and uh so I didn't really come up with much
Speaker 3: of anything as far as uh you know, the internet
Speaker 3: goes that bears on trail cams and owls and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and uh so, I was just hoping to
Speaker 3: talk to somebody that could help me make a little
Speaker 3: sense of you know what, I'm what I saw. I'm
Speaker 3: lost on.
Speaker 2: It, absolutely, uh it is.
Speaker 1: It is really interesting, especially that it was. It was
Speaker 1: it looked at it looked at you a few times.
Speaker 1: So you said the dogs were acting weird the first
Speaker 1: like the nights before, were they also acting weird that
Speaker 1: same night when you had them outside.
Speaker 3: Too, Well, what happened was they were out in the
Speaker 3: backyard and I was looking at this and I honestly
Speaker 3: couldn't tell you that there was there was. I can't
Speaker 3: even remember how many were out in the backyard because
Speaker 3: once I started looking at this thing, they were pretty
Speaker 3: much off my mind. Now I do know they they
Speaker 3: all came in with no problem because I had the
Speaker 3: door open and I was looking out there. It was
Speaker 3: starting to get cool, but it wasn't that bad yet.
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, they they they didn't know they did.
Speaker 3: They didn't. They didn't go freaking out and throwing a fit.
Speaker 3: But they all came running in with no problem. Because
Speaker 3: a lot of times I can't get them in, they
Speaker 3: stay out in the backyard. They love it out there,
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to tell you. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: they came running in with their tails tuck, but I
Speaker 3: wasn't really paying attention to that, and they did all
Speaker 3: come in really quick, So they didn't stay out in
Speaker 3: the yard and nose around back there. They didn't go
Speaker 3: running down to the back of the us either, because
Speaker 3: it's a it's a fairly decent sized fenced in backyard,
Speaker 3: and they all just kind of stood up around near
Speaker 3: the house with me, and yeah, when it was time
Speaker 3: to come in, they all came in.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, You've kind of alluded to it a few times,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like we don't have a definite what
Speaker 1: you think the height of the eyes off the ground
Speaker 1: might be, or how far away from each other they.
Speaker 3: Were, Yeah, they were, they were far apart. I know
Speaker 3: that much. Okay, No, I mean not not ridiculously. And
Speaker 3: as far as height goes, now, it's so hard to
Speaker 3: say because it was one of those nights where it
Speaker 3: was really dark out No I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: if the moon was just covered up, but I think
Speaker 3: it was one of those almost moonless nights or a
Speaker 3: really small moon. So everything was really really dark out there,
Speaker 3: because I mean, we're we're pretty mu much out in
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere, and uh, you know, when there's
Speaker 3: a clear sky, you see stars everywhere. There's not a
Speaker 3: lot of uh, no city lights, no, no neighbors much
Speaker 3: to speak of. I have one neighbor that's about it,
Speaker 3: and uh, all of that is just like, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's there's no lighting to mess with anything, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm trying to right, it was really dark
Speaker 3: and where the eyes were at it was so hard
Speaker 3: to tell if it was if it was really tall
Speaker 3: or not. You know, standing up at the very top
Speaker 3: of the hill where it right before it went into
Speaker 3: the woods, it seemed like it it was up high
Speaker 3: enough so that it wasn't like looking like it was
Speaker 3: down on the ground that looked like it was up
Speaker 3: in the air more how much, you know, Like I said,
Speaker 3: I just I couldn't say. I couldn't say. That's that's
Speaker 3: why I was after I saw it, because you know,
Speaker 3: the eyes were so big and like I've said, it
Speaker 3: a bunch of times already spread so far apart. It
Speaker 3: had me wondering what the heck I had saw? And yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I don't know as far as hythe reference,
Speaker 3: I didn't have anything to reference. It too too dark,
Speaker 3: and the and the ground is just so irregular. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wish, I wish I could have. Let me tell you,
Speaker 3: I got I got some night vision goggles for Christmas
Speaker 3: after after this happened. So I'm ready if if if
Speaker 3: I ever see anything out there again, I'm going to
Speaker 3: have those and I'm going to be able to you know,
Speaker 3: my luck it won't come back. But yeah, and if
Speaker 3: it is a bear, it could possibly come back, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and absolutely so that that's actually a good
Speaker 1: conversation to have. Is so after this expan, How did
Speaker 1: this experience affect you in the days afterwards?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I was, I was. I was totally
Speaker 3: taken by it. I was, I was, I was obsessed
Speaker 3: with seeing this thing again when I when I was
Speaker 3: I wake up a couple of times a night and
Speaker 3: I get out of bed instead of trying to roll
Speaker 3: over and go back to sleep, and i'd I'd be
Speaker 3: out there looking through the property trying to see something,
Speaker 3: you know, no, l no, Well, one night I think
Speaker 3: I saw a coyote. And I see the neighbors dogs
Speaker 3: every now and then we got some dogs that kind
Speaker 3: of run the neighborhood, you know, and their little tiny,
Speaker 3: small yellow eyes, you know, And that's there. You can
Speaker 3: you can definitely tell the difference between coyotes and dogs
Speaker 3: and and and what I saw there was no comparison.
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, what what what does do you know? Off?
Speaker 3: Can I look? And it said that bear do have
Speaker 3: like a red eye shine sometimes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the question is.
Speaker 1: Like what will have red what would have red glowing
Speaker 1: eyes at night? I'm guessing yeah, okay, so yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: so there is actually and these guys are great. I
Speaker 1: just talked to Marie a few times on the show.
Speaker 1: But shout out mid Florida bigfoot dot com. They have
Speaker 1: a really good post where you can actually look up
Speaker 1: and they have it all written out. You know, what
Speaker 1: what things make the different colors of eye shine. So
Speaker 1: if we're looking at red eyeshine, it's going to be
Speaker 1: things such as alligators and crocodiles, different types of owls, nighthawks, woodcocks,
Speaker 1: black bear, gray red fox, river otters, seals, possums, rabbits, porcupines.
Speaker 3: Yo, Well, all of that would be totally out of
Speaker 3: the question, except for maybe if it could have possibly
Speaker 3: been a huge owl. But I don't it would have
Speaker 3: add to have been a monster owl. And I'll tell
Speaker 3: you something I would have I think I would have
Speaker 3: noticed it being closer to the ground because it was dark,
Speaker 3: and like I say, there was no real reference points
Speaker 3: for me to say, well it was as hall as
Speaker 3: that tree, or as hall as the branch on the tree,
Speaker 3: or or anything like that. But like I said, when
Speaker 3: it got to the top of the hills, my pupp
Speaker 3: like I say, I sit up high, and then my
Speaker 3: property goes down to drainage, and then after the drainage,
Speaker 3: it goes back up and up and up and up,
Speaker 3: and it goes off into the woods. And whatever it was,
Speaker 3: it covered a lot of ground really quick, So an
Speaker 3: owl could have done that possibly, But I think I
Speaker 3: just think I would have noticed it being an all
Speaker 3: and I don't think it would have turned around and
Speaker 3: looked at me, not twice, you know, the first time
Speaker 3: I shined a light. And it's I think if it
Speaker 3: was an awl, it probably would have would have taken off,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's it's it's just a bird.
Speaker 3: And it might be a bird of prey. But it's
Speaker 3: just a bird. It's not really uh you know, it's
Speaker 3: not a huge bear. It doesn't know it's its size
Speaker 3: a bear. It could have possibly been a bear. That's
Speaker 3: that's the only that's the only other thing I could
Speaker 3: I could have thought it was all the little things.
Speaker 3: No way, no way. It's especially you know the way
Speaker 3: it kind of almost slowly turned its head. It didn't
Speaker 3: it didn't seem like it was it was afraid of anything.
Speaker 3: You know. A long time ago I had I had
Speaker 3: a huge Burmese python and a monster size retick. And
Speaker 3: they knew how big they were. You could tell once
Speaker 3: they hit a certain size. When you went to pick
Speaker 3: them up. Sometimes they got a little uh, especially the
Speaker 3: reticulated python got a little nasty with me and would
Speaker 3: try to bite me. After a while, I put it
Speaker 3: in a cage. Do visuous but when it was small,
Speaker 3: it was fine. But once it got big, it it
Speaker 3: was uh yeah, it was. It knew its size, and
Speaker 3: I believe animals like bears, know their size, and it
Speaker 3: could have possibly been and you know, turned and looked
Speaker 3: at me because shining a light in its eyes, you know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't uh you know, it didn't. It didn't encourage
Speaker 3: it to stay around, so it started moving off, but
Speaker 3: to turn back and look at me twice like that.
Speaker 3: And then, like I say, at the top of the hill,
Speaker 3: it just from what I could when I could, I could,
Speaker 3: you know, imagine after after looking at that area the
Speaker 3: next morning, you know, because I was trying it because
Speaker 3: after you know, at first I didn't look at it
Speaker 3: and go, oh wow, this is a this is a
Speaker 3: big foot. You know. I was just more enormed with
Speaker 3: the eyes, the size of them, the color of them
Speaker 3: a distance apart, and you know, like I was saying,
Speaker 3: my dogs, I didn't I couldn't really tell you what
Speaker 3: they did. I know, they didn't run down there at
Speaker 3: the back fence and start barking. They do that a
Speaker 3: lot of times whenever they see something out in the yard.
Speaker 3: You know, they're you know, protectular their property.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you notice any or what were the sounds
Speaker 1: and smells of the backyard like when you were out there?
Speaker 3: Well, sound wise, the wind out here is since since
Speaker 3: they cleared this area and where I sit, I sit
Speaker 3: up pretty high, and uh, right after, right after this
Speaker 3: had happened, a lot of rain came and it was
Speaker 3: it was windy. It was real windy. And the way
Speaker 3: my house is facing, it blows from the north a
Speaker 3: lot of times and it hits the front of the
Speaker 3: house and goes out, so any any kind of when
Speaker 3: I say it goes out, it goes you know, out
Speaker 3: towards the back of my property, because I was in
Speaker 3: the backyard standing there looking out over my property and
Speaker 3: whatever I saw was out there pretty far. Like I said,
Speaker 3: at least, you know, it's hard to say too because
Speaker 3: again it's everything's that's it's it's such a rolling, hilly area.
Speaker 3: And as far as any smells, I can't say that
Speaker 3: I actually smelled anything, but it would have been hard
Speaker 3: to with the with the wind, because it that's one thing.
Speaker 3: We get some some some pretty decent wind blowing through
Speaker 3: out here. And I didn't hear anything either, you know,
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's about that.
Speaker 2: Gotcha the next.
Speaker 3: Day blame it all on the wind.
Speaker 1: Exactly the next day, did you take any time to
Speaker 1: go out in the backyard and did you notice anything
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary.
Speaker 3: Oh, I looked all over the place. I looked all
Speaker 3: over the place. I didn't notice anything. You know, the
Speaker 3: ground out here, this well, this was this was woods
Speaker 3: up until about a year year and a half ago
Speaker 3: because they had just freshly cleared this property. And I
Speaker 3: I've been trying to, you know, turn it into a
Speaker 3: yard out there, mowing and trying to trying to get
Speaker 3: some grass growing. And it's, uh, it's just a big field.
Speaker 3: It's full of weeds and stuff. Really, but this this
Speaker 3: this red clay, it packs down so hard, so hard,
Speaker 3: and the weeds are so small because it's it's it's
Speaker 3: a new property. It isn't like there's really you know,
Speaker 3: any kind of dense vegetation where something was a step
Speaker 3: in it. I could see footprints. Uh, we had we
Speaker 3: had we had seen some bear tracks out there, but
Speaker 3: that was after it had rained. And that that drainage area.
Speaker 3: When we first moved out here, it was a really
Speaker 3: wet area. If it would have if it would have
Speaker 3: been the way it was when we first moved here.
Speaker 3: I mean there was earthworms there, catch worms to go
Speaker 3: catch brim to go fishing for catfish, and I mean
Speaker 3: it was just it was a disaster back there. It
Speaker 3: was so muddy, and uh I worked on grooming a
Speaker 3: real deep drainage and I think it helped dry that
Speaker 3: area up back there, but uh, yeah, the ground is
Speaker 3: just so hard. There's a yeah, there was. There was
Speaker 3: no no prints, no nothing. I looked. I looked everywhere.
Speaker 3: I looked everywhere, you know, and I've seen bear prince,
Speaker 3: but that's usually after it rains. It was just it
Speaker 3: was just a bad time because the drainage back there
Speaker 3: had dried up and it hadn't rained in a while,
Speaker 3: and his front was getting ready to come through. It was,
Speaker 3: you know, things were cooling off, it was getting real windy,
Speaker 3: and then right after that it stormed. And you know,
Speaker 3: it would have been great if it would have rained
Speaker 3: right before, because this clayll stay wet for a while
Speaker 3: and even then there isn't many places they could step
Speaker 3: where it's just you know, open open clay. There's there's
Speaker 3: weeds and uh, you know, just all kinds of vegetation
Speaker 3: growing on the ground. Like I said, I've been trying
Speaker 3: to mow it and get it, get it looking decent,
Speaker 3: turn it into something like a yard. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't notice anything. Didn't notice anything, then checked and looked.
Speaker 3: I was, I was. I was tempted to go out
Speaker 3: back and see if I could get anything, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe get some wood, do some wood, knocks or something,
Speaker 3: see if anything knocked back. Maybe do a call or something,
Speaker 3: see if I'd get anything. Answering me that way a
Speaker 3: few nights after. But my one neighbor might think I'm
Speaker 3: a little eccentric.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, you know, right, D speaking of
Speaker 1: your neighbor, have you ever had a conversation with that
Speaker 1: neighbor about if they've experienced anything weird on their property
Speaker 1: or is it not come up yet?
Speaker 3: No? Well, I I talked to them and they told
Speaker 3: me that that something happened to one of their dogs
Speaker 3: one time, that something had tried grabbing it because it
Speaker 3: was it was a big like cash in it, And
Speaker 3: I mean that could be anything, you know. And then
Speaker 3: I started asking them about bears and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and uh, his dogs run around the property, they're they're
Speaker 3: out about all the time. And man, some nights they
Speaker 3: are carrying on marketing stuff like that. Could be coyotes
Speaker 3: or bears. I don't really know. Nobody's ever really seen anything,
Speaker 3: you know, me or them, but like I say, it
Speaker 3: has this property hasn't been cleared for too long. And
Speaker 3: he's a lot younger than I am, and he's always working,
Speaker 3: so you know, other than something happening to one of
Speaker 3: his dogs, which you know, of course, could have been anything.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if it was, if it was
Speaker 3: a big foot, if they would have bothered going after
Speaker 3: a dog or not. But the a bear might have
Speaker 3: been able to you know. I like to I like
Speaker 3: to I like to have things explain. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't like the I don't like to not know. I mean,
Speaker 3: let me just tell you something real quick. A long
Speaker 3: time ago back and I grew up in South Florida,
Speaker 3: you know, always out in the Everglades fishing, camping. Well,
Speaker 3: one night, and this was probably back in like the
Speaker 3: early eighties, I was just hanging out front with a
Speaker 3: couple of my friends. We were drinking some beer, just
Speaker 3: hanging out talking, and up in the sky, all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, out of nowhere, there was this illuminated object,
Speaker 3: big like oval, and we've everybody just looked up there
Speaker 3: and like what is this thing? You know, we just
Speaker 3: all stood there and we were just checking this thing
Speaker 3: out in the sky, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it just like disappeared. And you know when you when
Speaker 3: you look at a light and then you shuck the
Speaker 3: light off and you're in a dark room, you kind
Speaker 3: of see an image in that light real briefly. Well,
Speaker 3: that's like what this was up in the sky, and
Speaker 3: it just disappeared and they left this this like light image.
Speaker 3: Well years later, years later, after I had moved to Georgia,
Speaker 3: I was watching a documentary and it was about UFOs
Speaker 3: being explained. And I'm telling you it might be hard
Speaker 3: to believe that they said one of their sightings, you know,
Speaker 3: they were talking about all these different sidings, said the
Speaker 3: next sighting is from Miami, Florida, you know, and so
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, cool from Miami, and it was it
Speaker 3: was what I saw. It was what I saw. Somebody
Speaker 3: got their camera out and back then, you know, you
Speaker 3: didn't you didn't have a phone to record anything on
Speaker 3: andy get their big movie camera out and they claimed
Speaker 3: it was a blimp. Lit up from the inside. That's
Speaker 3: the way it was explained away on this show, and
Speaker 3: which it could have been, because you know, if it
Speaker 3: was lit up and they shut the light out, I
Speaker 3: could see seeing this image of this, you know, this
Speaker 3: blimp up in the sky. But the problem was was
Speaker 3: where I lived in Miami. I mean I've lived there
Speaker 3: my whole life, and out in the Oka Laca Oka
Speaker 3: Laca Airport they had a blimphanger and that was for
Speaker 3: the Goodyear Blind and I mean this thing was sober
Speaker 3: and it said Goodyear on the side of it, and
Speaker 3: you know, I just had a hard time believing that
Speaker 3: that was a you know, then it was a blimp
Speaker 3: lit up from the inside. But it was explained away,
Speaker 3: and I was happy with that, you know. And then
Speaker 3: years later, right before we left Georgia, Oh no, no,
Speaker 3: this was when we first moved. Yeah, this is when
Speaker 3: we first moved to Georgia. Our home was built on
Speaker 3: a Confederate battle line, and one night I woke up
Speaker 3: and I saw these illuminated figures in the in the
Speaker 3: in the in the bedroom. They were like the head
Speaker 3: and shoulders of what it looked like somebody back from
Speaker 3: the Civil War era. Two guys and and one woman,
Speaker 3: and they were just kind of lit up in the dark,
Speaker 3: not blowing bright like a light, just lit up, almost
Speaker 3: similar to the way the thing was I saw in
Speaker 3: the sky. You know. It wasn't a bright light, but
Speaker 3: you could see it in the dark. And they turned
Speaker 3: and went through the wall as I was looking at him. Well,
Speaker 3: my wife had told me. I told her what I saw,
Speaker 3: and she said, oh my gosh, the boys were describing
Speaker 3: something just like what you saw, you know, except they
Speaker 3: saw the whole woman. They didn't see the guys. And
Speaker 3: so years later, before I left Georgia, I saw this
Speaker 3: special and it was talking about a waking dream and
Speaker 3: it described exactly how I felt was when I woke up.
Speaker 3: It felt like I couldn't move, but I was visually
Speaker 3: looking at this stuff. And then I got up and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I wish it would happen again.
Speaker 3: And that was explained away. So I had a waking dreams.
Speaker 3: So the first one was an illuminated blimp and the
Speaker 3: second one was awaking dream. So that's what I'm hoping
Speaker 3: to find out with this. I want to try and
Speaker 3: explain what I saw to myself. You know, I got
Speaker 3: to have like a closure or something on it. And
Speaker 3: you know, chances are it probably was you know, a bear,
Speaker 3: because there was more bear than there was bigfoot in
Speaker 3: the area. I'm pretty sure of that. But you know,
Speaker 3: I just don't know, man, I just don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, the Confederate ghost thing is interesting too, because
Speaker 1: it's not just you that had that incident. It's also
Speaker 1: the children, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was the kids. They had saw it. Also.
Speaker 3: One night I came home from work. We uh, I
Speaker 3: worked for a huge grocery store chain up there in Georgia.
Speaker 3: And I came home and the kids and the wife
Speaker 3: are downstairs watching TV. I was I was wiped out.
Speaker 3: I went upstairs and I laid down in dead. I
Speaker 3: just you know, kind of just needed to relax for
Speaker 3: a little while. And I felt the bed. After I
Speaker 3: was there for a while, I felt the dead, like
Speaker 3: like somebody pushing on the bed. And I'm thinking, oh, man, canting, people,
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I just want to get a little rest,
Speaker 3: you know, And it happened again. You know, it was
Speaker 3: you know, a slight pause and and I felt this,
Speaker 3: you know, shaken on the bed again, and I never
Speaker 3: opened my eyes I just laid there and then that
Speaker 3: was that. Thinking back on it, I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: I wish I would have just opened my eyes. You know,
Speaker 3: if I would have to opened my eyes, I might
Speaker 3: have seen something, you know, because I saw these two figures.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was it was really cool because when
Speaker 3: I got up out of bed, it was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I can't believe what I just saw. Man,
Speaker 3: you know, come back, you know, please come back. You know.
Speaker 3: Of course, nothing ever happened as far as actually seeing them,
Speaker 3: but then I had the bed shaking. And then also
Speaker 3: out in the front yard again it was a new home.
Speaker 3: I was trying to get grass growing, and there was
Speaker 3: a huge X, perfect X thing, probably hard to think back,
Speaker 3: twenty thirty foot long X that died in the front yard.
Speaker 3: And my neighbor across the street he came over and
Speaker 3: he was like, Frank, what are you doing to your yard?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, I don't know. I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get grass growing, you know, And this
Speaker 3: X came back two years in a row, the first
Speaker 3: two years we were there, and I'm thinking, maybe, you know,
Speaker 3: they buried something under the ground and it's close to
Speaker 3: the surface. That's what's causing the ground to die, the
Speaker 3: grass to die. I don't know. And now I'm thinking
Speaker 3: back on I'm like, man, I should have Maybe I
Speaker 3: should have dug where the X was at. Maybe there
Speaker 3: was something down in the ground, you know. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I know it was a Confederate battle line because
Speaker 3: there was a blackout on the road out in front
Speaker 3: of the subdivision commemorating the the area. So and there
Speaker 3: was this one guy he used to come around with
Speaker 3: a metal detector and he'd scanned the trees, these big
Speaker 3: old oak trees, you know, and and tell me that
Speaker 3: he used to find bullety. Well he didn't actually like
Speaker 3: dig them out, they were, you know, they were way
Speaker 3: too far in there. But he said it was just
Speaker 3: cool to scan the trees with his metal detector and
Speaker 3: find these these old you know, Civil War you know,
Speaker 3: uh bullets and in the in the trees. So it
Speaker 3: was definitely an all competitive battle line. And uh yeah,
Speaker 3: it had me going, man, I'll tell you that, I actually,
Speaker 3: yeah it it it all had And that was in
Speaker 3: a span of like just a couple of years, because
Speaker 3: after we were there for about three or four years,
Speaker 3: the kids quit see in this. In fact, what it
Speaker 3: was was it would stand in the hallway. I just
Speaker 3: talked with my son just recently about it because he
Speaker 3: you know, I I was going to be talking to
Speaker 3: you and I I wanted to refer back to this,
Speaker 3: like wanting to find out what the heck you know
Speaker 3: I saw. I loved things getting explained to me. So
Speaker 3: I don't know I want closure on it, but h yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was something. It really was. It had me going
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 1: So the Bigfoot, I'll start with this. Conversations like this.
Speaker 1: Usually I have a lot of these conversations that usually
Speaker 1: happen unrecorded, believe it or not. And it is wild
Speaker 1: because so many people, like in the Bigfoot field, you
Speaker 1: want to have some sort of closure, but it's like
Speaker 1: one of those deals where like you just you can't
Speaker 1: get the actual answer right, because it's one of those
Speaker 1: last great mysteries. Now, if I'm looking at like what
Speaker 1: you have provided to me so far, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think through it. There's some really interesting things that stand out,
Speaker 1: and one of them is, you know, you've got the eyes.
Speaker 1: But the other really interesting thing is that you have
Speaker 1: a property where you've recently started to you know, try
Speaker 1: to turn it into something else, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: maybe trees are getting taken down or you're doing stuff,
Speaker 1: and so the woods is maybe turning into something else. Right,
Speaker 1: So there's that. But then the big deal is that
Speaker 1: this area, as you already said, has a lot of
Speaker 1: history to it, and like the Talladega National Forest is
Speaker 1: one of the craziest bigfoot areas. I mean, there's if
Speaker 1: you go further south in Talladega, you've got the Hollands Hunting,
Speaker 1: the Hollands Hunter camp where I mean you had that
Speaker 1: hunter that was found under his tree stand where his
Speaker 1: like his arms were pulled out of his sockets. And
Speaker 1: it's just it's a really intense one that's not near
Speaker 1: your area, but it's further south in the same forest.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna ask me, like what do I
Speaker 1: think it is or or how concerned do I need
Speaker 1: to be? Unless unless you start to hear where other people,
Speaker 1: like someone has a sighting in the area or someone
Speaker 1: else has weird stuff happen. I might put it at
Speaker 1: like a fifty percent and one thing you could do,
Speaker 1: like if you were you're like, I really just don't
Speaker 1: want anything around here, and just to make sure, like you,
Speaker 1: a lot of people will put like game cams around
Speaker 1: the corners of their house or like in the backyard,
Speaker 1: you know, where you you have the like you saw
Speaker 1: the eyes, because usually most people will think, hey, there's
Speaker 1: something with the ir in these cameras and they don't
Speaker 1: like it, and they just they just get out of there.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: But that's that's pretty much what the community has has
Speaker 1: been looking at so far when when it comes to
Speaker 1: that with the game cameras. But man, because it's it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of thinking freely out out loud here
Speaker 1: because you didn't see any tracks and did you have
Speaker 1: any trees where like they were broken weird or woven
Speaker 1: weird or or or arched over anything really strange?
Speaker 2: Like that didn't sound like.
Speaker 3: Actually there's there's it's kind of like I just call
Speaker 3: it the property line. It's it's it's not actually my property.
Speaker 3: But because there's there's uh, there's a big open area
Speaker 3: that I live on. Somebody bought some property off next
Speaker 3: to me and they keep lot of they keep a
Speaker 3: lot of like uh, construction equipment there. And then uh
Speaker 3: uh so there was the longest longest this this particular line,
Speaker 3: there was an old tree that had broke and uh
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like and it probably just fell
Speaker 3: and it's it's landing that it landed this way, but
Speaker 3: it was it was an old dead tree and it
Speaker 3: broke somehow, and it happened just recently. My wife pointed
Speaker 3: it out to me because she used to see these
Speaker 3: woodpeckers that were in it. There was a couple of
Speaker 3: uh pilated to lated whatever woodpeckers that would go over
Speaker 3: there and you know, prepare this tree up and it
Speaker 3: fell over and it's it's like sitting up. It fell
Speaker 3: into the crooked two trees, so it almost looks like
Speaker 3: a like a fence, like like somebody almost kind of
Speaker 3: marked this this property line. You know. I looked at
Speaker 3: it and I said, oh, yeah, look at that. You know,
Speaker 3: the I did see a big foot and that it
Speaker 3: picked it up and it's marking. It's telling me, you know,
Speaker 3: don't go past this this tree. I just set here,
Speaker 3: you know, And uh yeah, So that that's that's the
Speaker 3: only thing that I saw there with with something like
Speaker 3: that where you know, and as far as I say,
Speaker 3: like I say, the ground, you know, yeah, you're you're
Speaker 3: you're not going to make an imprint in this clay.
Speaker 3: When it's when it's dry and it's hard, there's there's nothing.
Speaker 3: And the grass is well, it's not grass, it's it's
Speaker 3: just you know, stubs and weeds and stuff like that
Speaker 3: cut real short, so there's no there wouldn't be anything there.
Speaker 3: The bear prints that we had seen were down around
Speaker 3: near the down around near the drainage when it was
Speaker 3: when it was still wet, and then I had filled
Speaker 3: some holes on my property and one of them happened
Speaker 3: to step into the into the into the clay. I guess,
Speaker 3: I don't guess it would have had to have been wet,
Speaker 3: because I was out there walking the dogs and oh, man,
Speaker 3: look at this a bear print, you know, and uh,
Speaker 3: it was a big one too. It was it was
Speaker 3: a pretty big bear print, so that, you know, that
Speaker 3: could have been what I saw was this, you know,
Speaker 3: very large. Uh. I guess it'd have to be a
Speaker 3: black bear, right.
Speaker 1: I would think so based on the area you're in,
Speaker 1: it would probably be if you're if you're thinking a bear,
Speaker 1: it'd probably be a black bear, is my guess. But yeah, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I if i I'm and listeners are this is
Speaker 1: is very it's a different show, which is it's a
Speaker 1: different episode, which is a okay with me. I would
Speaker 1: think there's a likelihood you may have a bear going
Speaker 1: on in the back based on what you have presented
Speaker 1: to me. Uh, if you're at the point though, because
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, well, I just don't know, and I
Speaker 1: might want to take a little extra precaution, maybe throw
Speaker 1: a game cam up there. The worst thing that happens
Speaker 1: is you get a picture of a bear and then
Speaker 1: you really.
Speaker 3: Know, right, yeah, yeah, well I plan on doing that too.
Speaker 3: I should have told everybody to get me some game cam,
Speaker 3: you know, trail cams for the for Christmas, instead of
Speaker 3: the instead of the you know, the night vision goggles.
Speaker 3: But I want those because I like looking out over
Speaker 3: the property and seeing what's out there at night, you know,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, if it's a bear, it's it's definitely
Speaker 3: a big one. And the uh you know, I'm glad
Speaker 3: I got my fence up and the dogs are around
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But yeah, it's just like I said,
Speaker 3: the way it wouldn't have it wouldn't have alarmed me
Speaker 3: as much as it did. If the thing wouldn't have
Speaker 3: stopped so many times, well twice and looked back at me,
Speaker 3: you know, and and like I say, the size of
Speaker 3: the eyes and the you know, the the spread on
Speaker 3: the eyes. I just got a lot of things working
Speaker 3: against me. I need to get us. I've always said
Speaker 3: I needed to get a stronger flashlight. They've got some
Speaker 3: of these flashlights out there, you know, they're whatever, super powerful. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And trail cams. I wanted to set up a deer
Speaker 3: feeder or you know, put something out there, maybe a
Speaker 3: salt lick, but probably a deer feeder and a trail
Speaker 3: cam to see what comes around at night, because there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of deer on the property too. And you know,
Speaker 3: I've only I've only lived here for about ten months,
Speaker 3: so everything is still in the development stage. Now.
Speaker 1: Something that might be that might happen, and it happens
Speaker 1: a lot once the episode gets out, is it could
Speaker 1: be a thing where people watch this and then they're like, dude,
Speaker 1: there's a ton of bigfoot stuff happening in Muscadine or
Speaker 1: fruit Hurst or wherever, and that could be if that
Speaker 1: does happen, that could be something to take into consideration.
Speaker 1: But we really can only go off of the stuff
Speaker 1: that we know so far, right, and and going off
Speaker 1: of that, I would that's where I'm kind of leaning
Speaker 1: is probably more a really big black bear. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I would do if I was in your situation, like,
Speaker 1: I would lean probably more towards that and maybe throw.
Speaker 3: Up a game cand Yeah. I've watched a lot of
Speaker 3: trail cam stuff, game cameras of footage on YouTube, and
Speaker 3: some of the stuff you get at night is just
Speaker 3: so cool. The guy up the street for me, he's
Speaker 3: got one, and he was telling me that he got
Speaker 3: this big bobcat on his you know. And now that
Speaker 3: I since I know that there's a bear in the area,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yeah, I'd definitely like to get one that
Speaker 3: and all the deer and you know, possible bobcat. Who
Speaker 3: knows what else you get?
Speaker 2: M h, Yeah, that's really mean.
Speaker 3: You know, one thing I've always wondered is why they
Speaker 3: haven't gotten better pictures of if you know, there was
Speaker 3: a big foot in the area, and it was to
Speaker 3: go buy a trail cam, you know, because I see
Speaker 3: perfectly crystal clear pictures of bear and of beer and
Speaker 3: you know everything. You know, I saw this one guy
Speaker 3: he got some really awesome stuff on a Florida panthers,
Speaker 3: you know, and they're pretty they're they're pretty elusive. I
Speaker 3: mean there's game wardens that have been working in the
Speaker 3: other plades for you know, twenty thirty years and they've
Speaker 3: never even seen a Florida panther and this guy had
Speaker 3: some on his trail camp. You know what, why do
Speaker 3: you think that is? Why? It is? Because I've heard
Speaker 3: something about that bigfoot can can like hear maybe because
Speaker 3: I know bears will walk up and buy trail cams,
Speaker 3: so there's there's there's something to them. What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what I've what I've so the bear bearer
Speaker 1: attracted to it, from what I've heard, because of the
Speaker 1: lithium batteries usually and that's why they're going to go
Speaker 1: after the game cams. That's just what I've heard. A
Speaker 1: lot of people in the community will think that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's something to do.
Speaker 3: With the ir.
Speaker 1: Perhaps the bigfoot can see it, and that's why we're
Speaker 1: not getting cameras or we're not getting photos of it.
Speaker 1: The other thing that is always brought up is that, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are really good photos that people have up out there,
Speaker 1: but they are not sharing them because either they're afraid
Speaker 1: of what will be the fallout, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: the person that has a really good photo.
Speaker 2: I mean I've talked to.
Speaker 1: There's a few people that I've talked to where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we saw a photo at a conference and the guy
Speaker 1: was like, I can't put it out there because it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna ruin everything for me and my property. So
Speaker 1: if you take that as being truthful, yeah, there could
Speaker 1: be some good photos out there, just they haven't really
Speaker 1: been shared to the public. But yeah, for game camera stuff,
Speaker 1: pretty much going with the it may be able to
Speaker 1: see the ir and that's why we're not getting.
Speaker 2: A lot of photos. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's a tricky thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is hypotheticals, you know, because we
Speaker 1: haven't been able to actually study a specimen yet and
Speaker 1: see how it does react to different things like I
Speaker 1: are so yeah, but or they're just.
Speaker 3: More intelligent than you really give them credit for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, it's it's.
Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of speculation on them, you know, like, uh, oh,
Speaker 3: well they're you know, Gigantapithecus or an offspring of giganti Pithecus,
Speaker 3: and with some of the other stuff.
Speaker 2: There's there's all sorts of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and I mean I believe that
Speaker 3: there there's just so much out there. I mean I've
Speaker 3: I've watched a ton of stuff on on on the
Speaker 3: on the on YouTube about documentaries and everything, you know,
Speaker 3: stuff from like Jeff Meldrum and I know you you've
Speaker 3: you've heard of him. Uh, And I mean some of
Speaker 3: the footprints that he's got, like the crippled footprint. You
Speaker 3: know how anyone can fake that? Some tracks of some
Speaker 3: footprints have dermal ridges on them. I mean, there's just
Speaker 3: some stuff that can't be faked.
Speaker 1: Oh man, if you ever get a chance to see
Speaker 1: one of those casts in person that have dermal ridges.
Speaker 1: I have one of those from the mount Hood area
Speaker 1: and it will just blow your mind.
Speaker 3: Dude is.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen the pictures of the Mayaca skunk Gate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one that looks like inn Irngu Tan sort of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it kind of looks like in irang.
Speaker 2: It's weird, right, It's really weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sure is? It? Sure is? What what? Because
Speaker 3: when I had looked at the pictures, I I looked
Speaker 3: all over the internet. I googled a bunch of different stuff,
Speaker 3: and I finally found something where they were using the
Speaker 3: picture and they were trying to figure out what it was.
Speaker 3: And they had somebody that said it was some kind
Speaker 3: of primatologists from maybe the Miami Zoo or somewhere down
Speaker 3: there in South Florida, and they were saying that they
Speaker 3: thought it was a hoax picture because it definitely wasn't
Speaker 3: an orangu thing and it looks close closely to one,
Speaker 3: you know, but they were claiming that it wasn't and
Speaker 3: that picture just doesn't well, that's one of the you know,
Speaker 3: talking about getting good pictures. That's that's where someone went
Speaker 3: out on their back porch and actually just took a
Speaker 3: picture of it. I think that wasn't from an actual
Speaker 3: trail camp. That was a regular photo. And they had
Speaker 3: two of them, and I mean the teeth, you know,
Speaker 3: the eye shine that that it wasn't a cost and
Speaker 3: it was a definite animal. Sometime, I just you know,
Speaker 3: found that thing to be really really really interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think if I remember this the story right, it's
Speaker 1: from way back in two thousand and I believe it's
Speaker 1: an anonymous woman sent the two pictures. This Sarasota County
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department. Yeah, so exactly, it's weird. I mean if
Speaker 1: it was out today, I would be like, it'd be
Speaker 1: easy because we just would be like, oh, like that's Ai.
Speaker 2: That it's because AI is so good.
Speaker 1: But like the fact that it's well, it's twenty six
Speaker 1: years old now, I mean that was a different timeframe
Speaker 1: when it comes, you know, for graphics and things.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wish that we knew the actual person that turned
Speaker 1: it in. That would be really cool. But the area,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Mayaka River area. I've taken so many
Speaker 1: reports from that area. I mean it is extremely active area.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a very very interesting photo. People need
Speaker 1: to check it out as they've never looked at. Just
Speaker 1: look up my act a skunkcape photo. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was that was That was a heck
Speaker 3: of a photo there, that one there, and uh, there
Speaker 3: was another one that I had seen where it was
Speaker 3: it was a white skunky it no, well I shouldn't
Speaker 3: call it a skunk. A big foot from up north
Speaker 3: somewhere and a guy was out on his property. It
Speaker 3: was at night because he kept saying that he was
Speaker 3: hearing something and he was out looking with he had
Speaker 3: a camera and a light, and he caught a picture.
Speaker 3: He got a quick glimpse of uh, got a quick
Speaker 3: glimpse of something. And I mean the face on it, man,
Speaker 3: that that was. That was something. It looked at him.
Speaker 3: He caught it in the in the in his in
Speaker 3: his flashlight, and it turned around real quick and just
Speaker 3: darted off into the woods. But the face on it,
Speaker 3: it was, you know, and I don't know how old
Speaker 3: it is, you know, if it was AI or anything
Speaker 3: like that. But that was the only other picture that
Speaker 3: I had seen that was like, Wow, what was that?
Speaker 1: I think like the I think I might know the
Speaker 1: one you're talking about, but yeah, if you could, if
Speaker 1: you could email me a link to that, just to
Speaker 1: just to double check. I'm pretty sure I know which
Speaker 1: one it is, but I'm not one hundred percent sure
Speaker 1: on that one.
Speaker 3: But it was. It was. It was white. It was
Speaker 3: real white. It had Yeah, it was. It was really
Speaker 3: really really good, really good picture, you know. But the
Speaker 3: footprints I wish I wish, man, I'm telling you, I
Speaker 3: wish that ground back there wouldn't have been dried up.
Speaker 3: I was happy to see it dried up because it
Speaker 3: was terrible to try and mow around it. But whatever
Speaker 3: it was was just it was just standing down there.
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's that's the whole thing. When I
Speaker 3: when I turned my back porch light on and that
Speaker 3: you know, that bug light was able to illuminate its
Speaker 3: thighs from well, I'm just gonna say, from way over
Speaker 3: one hundred feet away, and so it had to have
Speaker 3: been something really big. And then when it turned and
Speaker 3: I could see how far the eyes were, it was
Speaker 3: definitely some really really big And you know, to know
Speaker 3: that there's a black bed out there that big, it's
Speaker 3: kind of kind of cool to kind of unsettling a
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't go tucking around at night out
Speaker 3: there too much.
Speaker 1: So I would say, I mean, if I was there,
Speaker 1: I'd I'd definitely be aware and i'd probably try to
Speaker 1: get a picture of it. But it's definitely a thing where,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think we know one hundred percent
Speaker 1: either way, right, And I mean I would say if
Speaker 1: you do experience other stuff out there, I would definitely
Speaker 1: like to hear about it.
Speaker 2: It can be very interesting.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I've I've always liked kind of well,
Speaker 3: like back in the where I moved up here. I
Speaker 3: lived in North Florida, and uh, there was woods all
Speaker 3: around us there. We've always lived more rural areas. And
Speaker 3: uh I always used to put like if we had
Speaker 3: old food, the turkey carcass from Thanksgiving, any any old
Speaker 3: food or junk like that, if I went and went
Speaker 3: fishing and brought the fish home and cleaned the fish,
Speaker 3: I'd take all the heads and guts and everything, and
Speaker 3: I'd take it out behind my house and put it
Speaker 3: out there. And and uh never did get a trail cam.
Speaker 3: I should have gotten a trail cam, and uh, just
Speaker 3: to see what was out there eating the stuff at night,
Speaker 3: because the next day everything would just be gone, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean there was tons of coyotes. And one of
Speaker 3: the neighbors said that they saw a big giant cat
Speaker 3: of some sort. And uh, I had a buddy that
Speaker 3: had he had a trail cam on his property, and
Speaker 3: he said he had gotten pictures of some uh some
Speaker 3: kind of big cat out on their property. And know,
Speaker 3: all that stuff is really cool. So I was thinking
Speaker 3: of getting like maybe a couple of bags of apples
Speaker 3: and trail cam, you know, and trying to set up
Speaker 3: something to debate things in, because I think it's easier
Speaker 3: to bring things into you than to have you go
Speaker 3: trying to look for it. If it's possible to.
Speaker 1: Do, yeah, i'd agree with that. I would agree with that. Yeah, absolutely, And.
Speaker 3: Possibly, you know, possibly get some pictures of the big
Speaker 3: bear on my property, because that's that's you know. After
Speaker 3: I was over my even kind of freaked out about
Speaker 3: what I saw, I was like, yeah, you know, it
Speaker 3: probably is a bear. You know, it probably is, but
Speaker 3: I man, I gotta get I gotta get a camera
Speaker 3: out on my property.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would say, I'd say it'd be a good idea.
Speaker 1: We'll frank, it's a good conversation. We talked about a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that really doesn't come up on the show,
Speaker 1: and I think I think that's a good thing. But
Speaker 1: as I said before, you know, feel free to reach
Speaker 1: out if you notice anything else weird happening, or if
Speaker 1: you get a picture of a bear or anything else.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. But I just hey, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on the show today and
Speaker 1: for sharing what you've experienced so far in your property.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hey, thanks for talking to me. Man. I
Speaker 3: feel like you know things are more conclusive in my head.
Speaker 3: I feel better about it. You know. I really like that.
Speaker 3: Like I say, I like the things. I like to
Speaker 3: have explanations. I like things to be explained away, and
Speaker 3: I feel like I have that done. So thanks for
Speaker 3: your time.
Speaker 1: Man, you got it, Jem, Thank you, Frank, and it's
Speaker 1: good chatting with you. And we'll be in touch.
Speaker 3: Man, all right, thanks a lot. Man. You have a
Speaker 3: good day you.
Speaker 2: Too, Man, have a good one.
Speaker 3: All right.
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