Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday, and that
Speaker 1: means I'm gonna be covering pop culture and Bravo. It's
Speaker 1: an episode we call Pop and Bravo. And today I've
Speaker 1: got Corey and Carly from Surviving Reality Pod. Look, guys,
Speaker 1: there they are. They're on the screen. If you're watching
Speaker 1: on you Hey guys, so you guys cover on Surviving Reality.
Speaker 1: I know you're big Sister Wives people, so now is
Speaker 1: your time to shine. Sister Wives are back.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, our super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, whether we want it or not, it's yeah,
Speaker 3: it happens every year.
Speaker 1: Not just as on.
Speaker 2: We have Special Forces with Cody, so we're also covering
Speaker 2: that over on and he's still there.
Speaker 1: He's still there. He hasn't dropped out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're still We're gonna have an episode coming
Speaker 2: out tonight. So it's Thursday night at nine pm. Special
Speaker 2: Forces is on. We're on week three. Week three, so
Speaker 2: he survived three weeks so far, three days in the
Speaker 2: time of the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I mean is pretty promising. It was
Speaker 3: further than we thought he was going to get. I mean,
Speaker 3: we were giving him two or three episodes in total.
Speaker 2: But it seems like he's doing better. He's doing better
Speaker 2: than everyone originally thought.
Speaker 4: Better than we thought. His hair isn't doing better though,
Speaker 4: Well it's getting wet, it's getting dry, it's not doing well.
Speaker 1: So my understanding, I'm understanding. Britney Cartwright was on is
Speaker 1: she left immediately and then immediately and Teresa Judae is on.
Speaker 1: She's gone up until last week.
Speaker 3: So she was looking for an out basically, and what
Speaker 3: was her out?
Speaker 2: So there was a challenge where they had to fight
Speaker 2: another person on the show and Gia was called up
Speaker 2: first and she didn't want to.
Speaker 3: So they were putting on boxing gloves. It was like
Speaker 3: a sparring. They called it a milling thing. I guess,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was basically like she's gonna get punched, she was.
Speaker 3: Gonna fight somebody. Yeah, she was gonna have to hit
Speaker 3: and be hit. And Teresa was like, I can't watch this,
Speaker 3: and that was when she quit. So it was kind
Speaker 3: of a strange time to drop out, especially when Gia
Speaker 3: has voiced like her biggest trauma in her life was
Speaker 3: when her parents had to go away to prison, and
Speaker 3: so there was like a level of abandonment that's kind
Speaker 3: of in there, so then to be in this challenge
Speaker 3: mode and then have your mom essentially abandon you in
Speaker 3: that moment, it was kind of triggering for her. So yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe not the best time.
Speaker 2: She's still there, so Gia still hanging in, holding out wow,
Speaker 2: and they're not on as like teams, there's separate contents essence.
Speaker 1: But she said, I can't watch GA fight, so I'm
Speaker 1: going to leave the show.
Speaker 3: Well, Teresa's reasoning was, I can't watch ge again in
Speaker 3: a fight because I'll want to jump in, and so
Speaker 3: that was the excuse. But to be honest, like earlier
Speaker 3: in the episode.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of a good time, There was
Speaker 2: a lot of stairs.
Speaker 3: She was already thinking about quitting at that point like
Speaker 3: earlier on, so this just seemed like it was kind
Speaker 3: of inevitable, and then it just happened to coincide with
Speaker 3: this other challenge.
Speaker 1: Does anybody get voted off this show? Or you just
Speaker 1: try to make it to the end.
Speaker 2: So they can be told that they need to leave
Speaker 2: for various reasons, Eva, who was on America's Next Top Model,
Speaker 2: had to leave in the last episode because they felt
Speaker 2: like she couldn't mentally handle being there anymore. Because she
Speaker 2: had something that happened and kind of shook her up
Speaker 2: and made her afraid for her safety honestly, and the challenges.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so she had to leave.
Speaker 2: You could be asked to because you don't I guess
Speaker 2: follow directions properly and you're becoming a safety hazard to
Speaker 2: yourself for other people. But there's no like, no one
Speaker 2: else who's on the show can vote you out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the drill sergeants, the staff that's there,
Speaker 3: or like you can be medically tapped out basically if
Speaker 3: you're unable to continue due to an injury or anything.
Speaker 2: Like that, which is what we're guessing will eventually happen
Speaker 2: to Cody. I don't think he gets through this whole
Speaker 2: time without having some type of injury.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's who else on the show? Who else is
Speaker 1: on the show? I don't think I knew Geo was
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think those were all the Bravo people right
Speaker 2: for the most I think she's the last one remaining.
Speaker 3: Yeah, John, Yeah, there's like x NFL players, Okay, some
Speaker 3: x NBA. I I don't really watch basketball or football.
Speaker 3: That's why I do reality TV podcasts though, But like,
Speaker 3: no hockey players this season.
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson and her husband are on it. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think any other big names.
Speaker 3: Jesse, Smilette Muller. Jesse has been at the bottom of
Speaker 3: our list. We have like a running of bracketology, which
Speaker 3: is basically like fantasy sports for reality TV stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we have a bracket going for specifically for special Forces.
Speaker 3: Jesse is at the bottom of our list.
Speaker 4: We're expecting him to leave.
Speaker 1: Next Okay, okay, well I listen. I'll just listen to
Speaker 1: you guys, because I'm not going to watch this. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna watch this show. Once Brittany left, I was like,
Speaker 1: I have no reason to watch it. I was only
Speaker 1: gonna watch her and be like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: jump out this air blanket. Jacks is mean to me.
Speaker 4: You know that would have got you about twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Then into the first episode or so, she didn't last
Speaker 3: very long out oh.
Speaker 2: No, by the way, and she was like, I don't
Speaker 2: think I can make it the rest of the way
Speaker 2: because they had to run back to camp. She wasn't
Speaker 2: even out of breath, like she seemed like she was
Speaker 2: doing okay. She just I really think she decides she
Speaker 2: just didn't want to do the show. She got in
Speaker 2: her own first experience.
Speaker 3: Like she got in her own head about it too,
Speaker 3: where she was like, oh, I just didn't want to
Speaker 3: be the first one to leave, and then she was
Speaker 3: I knew I would be the first one to leave.
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, if you're kind of if you're
Speaker 3: telling yourself you were going to be the first person
Speaker 3: to leave, and then you are the first person to leave.
Speaker 4: How surprised are you.
Speaker 1: My understanding is from that show that they get all
Speaker 1: get paid the same amount, no matter what. So that's
Speaker 1: what if you got your money. You got your money
Speaker 1: is if you really can't take it, go ahead and leave.
Speaker 1: But maybe if you make it to the end, maybe
Speaker 1: they give you a little bonus, but you've already gotten
Speaker 1: paid and you're like, I don't want to jump out
Speaker 1: of an airplane. Bye bye. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We kept feeing like Cody probably paid to be on
Speaker 3: this season, like he needed to know, you know, where
Speaker 3: to send the check because he was just excited about
Speaker 3: the opportunity to rub elbows with the football players and
Speaker 3: he loves him quarderback.
Speaker 1: So how embarrassing, How embarrassing for Cody? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: well is it. It's given the people that recap Sister
Speaker 1: Wives a lot of extra material. So I'm really glad
Speaker 1: for all of you that cover Sister Wise, I'm happy
Speaker 1: for you as a fellow podcaster that you've got this
Speaker 1: bonus material to cover regarding Cody and his hair. Now,
Speaker 1: what else are you guys covering over on Surviving Reality.
Speaker 2: Well, we just wrapped up Welcome to Platfell, and now
Speaker 2: you're recapping Seeking Sister Wife.
Speaker 1: Seeking Sister Amazing.
Speaker 3: You would think there would be a lot of crossover
Speaker 3: in that audience of like the Sister Wives fandom and
Speaker 3: then Seeking Sister Wife. We're finding that it's not a
Speaker 3: lot of It doesn't because like Sister Wives is very
Speaker 3: like family following, you know, it's like the Brown family.
Speaker 4: They like the characters of that.
Speaker 3: Seeking Sister Wife is like kind of this weird.
Speaker 1: This looks slap oh yeash, It's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, like just the the underbelly of the process.
Speaker 3: You're like seeing how the sausage is made a little
Speaker 3: bit more and yeah, I mean like in that.
Speaker 4: Sort of term.
Speaker 3: Well, especially Garrick sausage, It's made every week and it
Speaker 3: is very unpleasant.
Speaker 1: Every other night. Every other night Who's going to change
Speaker 1: the sheets? That was the conversation this week, and I
Speaker 1: was like, not any other you know, Polygama situation we've
Speaker 1: ever seen on any of these shows that we cover.
Speaker 1: Does the demand stay in one spot and the women
Speaker 1: have to rotate to him? It's so crazy.
Speaker 2: How Derek changes the sheets? Right, how about that be
Speaker 2: his responsibility.
Speaker 3: If it's his room, he should make that, you know,
Speaker 3: ready for the next wife.
Speaker 4: Then who comes?
Speaker 1: Is there a break night? Because there's seven nights in
Speaker 1: the week, so you think they each take three and
Speaker 1: then on the seventh night they rest. But just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like. But then Danielle and Lorena now are sharing
Speaker 1: that sister room, which I think Danielle thinks it's like
Speaker 1: the summer camp she never.
Speaker 4: Got to go to.
Speaker 1: She's so excited they must have.
Speaker 2: A night where they get to spend the night together.
Speaker 2: Not in that way, well you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Although I don't know, do you think that maybe Danielle
Speaker 2: has seemed interested before? Yeah, and some of the earlier robertas.
Speaker 5: Roberta number number two and she was trying to smooch
Speaker 5: on because she had her own like sister wife Clauda
Speaker 5: ring sort of engagement proposal that took place.
Speaker 4: And then she leaned in and then it was like yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's right. Yeah
Speaker 1: Bert too, she did try to kiss I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's controlling herself a little better this season.
Speaker 3: I forgot it was her birthday too, I mean, Garrek
Speaker 3: always forgets when it's her birthday.
Speaker 4: But like to bring to number.
Speaker 3: Three here on your birthday, Danielle's birthday, and to like
Speaker 3: re cast kind of that they had a bad experience
Speaker 3: on Danielle's birthday a few years ago because the engagement
Speaker 3: to reverted number two.
Speaker 4: Didn't pan out.
Speaker 3: So trying to like, you have to reinforce.
Speaker 4: It, get great history, the better.
Speaker 3: Experiences here to push away those bad emotions instead, y'all.
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Speaker 1: receive a free dessert. Well, I tell you that guy
Speaker 1: I don't know at least Nick is Nick Davis of
Speaker 1: Seeking Sister wife is out there saying things like, listen,
Speaker 1: I think very highly of myself and I think I'm
Speaker 1: the smartest man in the world, So I am I
Speaker 1: do try to tamp it down and don't assume people
Speaker 1: like me. I was like, okay, that's slightly self aware, Nick.
Speaker 1: You know, with Teresa at the News, I.
Speaker 2: Was surprised with that. Yeah, I think he's a little
Speaker 2: afraid of Teresa. Think, what do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think When she picked him up and
Speaker 1: spun him around, She's showed who was in charge.
Speaker 3: The twirling just an effortless too, by.
Speaker 2: The way, like a rag doll.
Speaker 1: He laughed and laughed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just got up and was kicking his feet
Speaker 3: and stuff too. So it was just yeah, he was
Speaker 3: very excited about it. And then in the hot tub
Speaker 3: later too. It's just it's all legs. There's just like
Speaker 3: limbs everywhere, and it's like, wow, this is this is happening.
Speaker 1: Who do you think changes the sheets in the boom
Speaker 1: Boom room?
Speaker 4: That is a team effort.
Speaker 2: Right, the beds so well, the boom Boom Room. Oh,
Speaker 2: the boom Boom that's a regular size bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's the it has to be a group
Speaker 3: project for the sleeping bed because that thing is a
Speaker 3: mile wide.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they had to get custom sheets. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: Boom Boom room probably is just once a week, just
Speaker 1: whoever's turn it is. They're not trying to.
Speaker 2: Go between worried about it.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like this mushroom on Jersey Shore. It's
Speaker 3: just kind of.
Speaker 2: Like maybe it usually has no sheets, usually has.
Speaker 4: No sheets, and then like.
Speaker 3: You're going to clean it if you're planning to use it,
Speaker 3: but like if it's a spur of the moment thing,
Speaker 3: it's just kind of it's.
Speaker 2: Just a bear mattress with it.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 1: Right, let's talking about this now. You guys are watching
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, So I love that because I don't
Speaker 1: you don't guys don't watch tons of Bravo.
Speaker 2: Right, No, we dabble a little bit here and there
Speaker 2: with specific things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like our cover it or is just for fun.
Speaker 2: So we covered it on Surviving Reality last season. We
Speaker 2: are still covering it now, but we're over on Patreon.
Speaker 2: We're getting live after shows. You don't have to sign
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Speaker 2: and just join us on Tuesday nights at nine point
Speaker 2: thirty after it airs. Because we're not trying to live recap.
Speaker 3: We're not trying to compete with Andy on watch what happens,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So we're leaving the time you're thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: You can watch that and then you can join the
Speaker 4: live with us. Yeah, we didn't want to step on
Speaker 4: anybody's toes.
Speaker 1: Wait, and you don't have to be a paid member
Speaker 1: of Patreon to watch the live it's for it's for
Speaker 1: free members as well.
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well guys, aren't you guys nice?
Speaker 4: It's fun. Good.
Speaker 1: The more the merrier, given free content to the people.
Speaker 1: That's nice. There we go, that's a great idea. Okay,
Speaker 1: well this was a banger episode of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: I mean so much happened.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we got another I feel like classic
Speaker 2: line from Angie that's going to live an in for me.
Speaker 2: French fries. You do French fries, I do franchise.
Speaker 1: Yes, there were so I was like, which one because
Speaker 1: she's so great now? It was really good and so
Speaker 1: many different layers would you and I talk to I
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, watch any other ones. I'm want
Speaker 1: to take like a little bit of notes and you're
Speaker 1: like no, I was like, yes, thank god. So, because
Speaker 1: there was so much that happened in this episode, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how we would get to
Speaker 1: all of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we opened this episode with the dismissed Lawsuits luncheon
Speaker 1: where everybody's yelling at each other and we just, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was the clarity Luncheon.
Speaker 2: That's what she fished named it. Okay, Well, everybody.
Speaker 3: Needs to know Carly is a big defender of Lisa Barlow.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit of a Lisa Barlow.
Speaker 3: Apologize Lisa Barlow and it's like, I get it.
Speaker 1: Days are rough.
Speaker 3: I gave her fair warning. I said this one. There's
Speaker 3: a few episodes now where it's like it's going to
Speaker 3: be a tough one to defend her on. And then
Speaker 3: anytime she starts going in on the defense stance and
Speaker 3: it's like, you gotta be careful because like, I don't
Speaker 3: think this is gonna fly, but some stuff has been
Speaker 3: making sense.
Speaker 2: I was rough on her this week.
Speaker 3: Rough on her this week, though, yes, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Last week? Did you feel good about the gout dick
Speaker 1: sucker slam that she thought was really going to hit
Speaker 1: that didn't?
Speaker 2: I felt so good about it. I think that she
Speaker 2: had I think she paid so we know she has
Speaker 2: many assistants, many attorneys, many people who work for her cybersecurity.
Speaker 2: I do believe that she paid somebody in the off
Speaker 2: season to go through old footage and come up with
Speaker 2: some things that she could yell at people in random fights.
Speaker 2: And that was one of them. I'm convinced.
Speaker 1: But it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I don't think she thought about it
Speaker 2: that deeply. She just has a list and she's running down.
Speaker 3: It right, Like she didn't double check the source material.
Speaker 2: There was no editing done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like whatever they put in front
Speaker 3: of her, and she was like, okay, great, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: going to use these because We ran into that with
Speaker 3: this episode too, where it was like some of the
Speaker 3: stuff she was kind of throwing at Angie, where Angie's like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you're talking about, Like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think if she would have said you sucked dick for
Speaker 1: an old man that has gout, or you suck old
Speaker 1: man dick, there's just lots of other ways, but gout
Speaker 1: dick sucker just didn't didn't. Just sort of like when
Speaker 1: she for you, no, It's like she was like Whitney
Speaker 1: and Heather bad Weather and you're like, no, no, See.
Speaker 2: That's why I enjoy what her though, because she she
Speaker 2: is the epitome of a delusional housewife where she really
Speaker 2: thinks she thinks she's doing a good job. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's what makes it funny.
Speaker 3: She thinks that is she though, well.
Speaker 1: She's a good housewife and that we're talking about her
Speaker 1: a lot. But you know, it's sort of like when
Speaker 1: when she looked right at Heather Gay and said, you know,
Speaker 1: my life is just different than you, like I'm just
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a i'm up here, you're down
Speaker 1: here moment. You know, it's like I'm so much better
Speaker 1: than you and that's just a really awful thing to
Speaker 1: say to your friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do big things, big things, big things.
Speaker 1: I'm involved in everything. I'm partying with Ben Affleck. So
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck's like, listen, I got a space open. J
Speaker 1: Loo's Ben and Jen Affleck. Yeah, Ben and Engen and
Speaker 1: also not related. So so the best the best part
Speaker 1: of it was when Heather had to turn and explain
Speaker 1: to Mary the discs that and you made, which was
Speaker 1: you do French fries, I do franchise, And when Heather
Speaker 1: turned it was and I was glad she did because
Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand it either. And Mary goes, oh,
Speaker 1: that's good, that's.
Speaker 4: Good, that's good. Yeah, very impressive.
Speaker 1: She was good.
Speaker 3: She's learning though, Like that's what we've noticed with Angie
Speaker 3: is I think they paired her with Mary because Mary's
Speaker 3: very quick, very in the moment, and then like that
Speaker 3: was what Angie needed work on, because Angie was good
Speaker 3: in the confessionals, like afterwards she could do some one
Speaker 3: liner stuff, but like in the moment, I think she
Speaker 3: would get nervous, she would get flustered.
Speaker 4: So like she's kind of come out of that. She's
Speaker 4: finding her Yeah, her voice so to speak, I guess.
Speaker 1: Well it was really good and I was really and
Speaker 1: I'm just listen, I'm a Mary apologist. I don't care
Speaker 1: how many people she swindled in that church. Like I
Speaker 1: love Mary. I just think it's fine that she's a
Speaker 1: cult leader. It's fine, Like I love her.
Speaker 5: She is.
Speaker 1: Wat's great now that she's back in she's back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's really giving it to us. I hope she got
Speaker 1: a raise. So then it seems like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Lisa sort of like I just was, I'm sorry to everybody.
Speaker 1: And then bron When comes in as sort of like
Speaker 1: I am the voice of reason and you should not
Speaker 1: have said this and this, and she's sort of but
Speaker 1: by the way, don't forget that like last episode four
Speaker 1: minutes before, Whitney went over and like physically touched Lisa,
Speaker 1: who like hit her.
Speaker 4: We were napkin in her face.
Speaker 1: Now we've just forgotten all about that. It's like, whoa, wow,
Speaker 1: I mean she was really I mean Whitney was really mad,
Speaker 1: like legit mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's very about wild Rose Beauty, like she
Speaker 2: she's really you say anything about her businesses this season
Speaker 2: and she's losing it.
Speaker 1: She's like, I know it was failed. It was a
Speaker 1: failed business. I'm fixing it. I'm fixing it.
Speaker 4: Nobody cares.
Speaker 2: No, it's hard to keep track of which one of
Speaker 2: her businesses that was she's talking about.
Speaker 4: That's why she failed.
Speaker 3: Has to specify that it's that one, because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're talking about failed business, it could
Speaker 3: be quite a few.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, this was not the one that.
Speaker 3: We expected initially because this wasn't the one with all
Speaker 3: the drama from last season.
Speaker 4: That's totally different.
Speaker 1: But I think it was called Iris and Bow and
Speaker 1: then it was the exact same business. She just changed
Speaker 1: the name to wild Rose Beauty because I think she
Speaker 1: thought she was trying to capitalize on Whitney Rose. So
Speaker 1: that was probably stupid because if she had a name
Speaker 1: with Iris and Bow and whatever, it's not whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: not buying skincare from Whitney.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just not well the Ali Baba stuff too,
Speaker 3: Like it probably could have been to steer away from that.
Speaker 4: That's a whole that's a whole other business. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: that was true.
Speaker 1: We could all see the pictures. Because of the pictures,
Speaker 1: it's like it is sourced. I have different sources I'm like,
Speaker 1: and one of them is Alibaba dot Com. So Ram
Speaker 1: is the voice of reason here. She's like, everybody needs
Speaker 1: to like, you're sorry to you. You shouldn't have said this,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have said that. And then we're done. Now
Speaker 1: everything's fine. Let's just forget that people were storming and
Speaker 1: throwing and screaming and poster boards were flying. Let's forget it.
Speaker 1: We go with a couple of quick scenes. We get
Speaker 1: Meredith describing her new jewelry store slash Caviar Lounge. So
Speaker 1: she's taking Meredith Mark's jewelry and making it into a
Speaker 1: tiny jewelry store that you have to walk through to
Speaker 1: get to the caviar lounge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is this alis in Wonderland design that she's
Speaker 3: talking about here, where it's like you have to start
Speaker 3: at the front of the store and then eat this
Speaker 3: and drink this, and then you can go through this
Speaker 3: little door and this keyhole.
Speaker 1: And then you're going to speak easy.
Speaker 3: Speak easy caviar speakeasy.
Speaker 1: And then you can go back. But you couldn't go up,
Speaker 1: but not unless you bought like some earrings first, like
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 2: And then she's in the back de chain somebody that's yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys, there's gonna be.
Speaker 1: The merit is djaying is such a weird turn and
Speaker 1: her just and you're like, didn't she say last days
Speaker 1: that she had hearing aids? Yes, yes, so she's got
Speaker 1: hearing aids and she's yeah, we're talking about people's impairments.
Speaker 3: Now making fun of people's impairments now right.
Speaker 1: Where she has hearing aids. But now she's a djit
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, all.
Speaker 3: Right until like lean into it so much where like
Speaker 3: that is her catch phrase as part of the intro
Speaker 3: and stuff too, like they're all in on this where
Speaker 3: we haven't really.
Speaker 4: Seen a lot do it. That was jump right to
Speaker 4: that as being like her identity.
Speaker 3: Where you know it was baths, baths were her thing, right,
Speaker 3: and then now we're just moving away.
Speaker 1: From that baths caviar dj DJing, that's your natural progression,
Speaker 1: I guess right. So my producer Ingrid went to her
Speaker 1: store in Park City last time she was skiing and
Speaker 1: bought well first two years ago, she bought a dress.
Speaker 1: Meredith has dresses in there. There things she wore on TV.
Speaker 2: That you can buy used items like.
Speaker 3: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame just like outfits
Speaker 3: in the glass and stuff.
Speaker 1: Except for you can buy them. So English found like
Speaker 1: the cheapest thing in her size and it was like
Speaker 1: a pink coat dress because of course the blazer, you know,
Speaker 1: and bought it. It was you know, like one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars or something. But yeah, so she in You saw
Speaker 1: the racks of clothes in her store. It's a jewelry store,
Speaker 1: and that's what that is. She sells her clothes she
Speaker 1: wore on the show in that store. I guess that's that's.
Speaker 2: It's perplexing because hasn't she inherited a lot of money
Speaker 2: from her family, like one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, I think Seth has
Speaker 1: a very good job, but her kids are very STYLI
Speaker 1: and so I don't know if she did. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but that's fascinating if she.
Speaker 2: Did, yeah, because it's like, why is she running a
Speaker 2: poshmark out of her store? Very odd. She's a little
Speaker 2: scattered on the business front. I think we could say.
Speaker 1: She and Whitney, She and Whitney. So then we get
Speaker 1: a quick scene and Mary and Mary and Heather having
Speaker 1: a very pleasant lunch, which just goes to show you
Speaker 1: Mary's in it. She's having lunch with Heather, who she
Speaker 1: once called inbread right to her face twice and fat.
Speaker 1: She called her fat too. Don't get that.
Speaker 2: She's done that to quite a few people, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you like to what others are.
Speaker 3: Eating a lot of different ways too, Like Mary comes
Speaker 3: up with very unique, very unique ways of telling people
Speaker 3: that they're fat, like ways that I've become fast yeah,
Speaker 3: or like it looks like the if this trend continues,
Speaker 3: there is fat in the future.
Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, what that kind of thing it
Speaker 4: was Manica? Yeah, I think she was ripped on Monica.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she's ripped on Lisa Barlowe two for her
Speaker 1: fast food. She's like, that's.
Speaker 4: Gross, She's gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we see a quick scene of Whitney and
Speaker 1: Justin setting up her striper pole, seeming to be in
Speaker 1: like a office area upstairs near a banner that she
Speaker 1: could go over into the downstairs area. It didn't seem
Speaker 1: like a safe area to be setting up that pole,
Speaker 1: not for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the maneuvers that she is known for that we've
Speaker 3: seen on camera with the centrifugal forces that are available
Speaker 3: there I don't think, yeah, that that.
Speaker 4: Close to a balcony is going to be the spot
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 1: But maybe her kids were like, hey, we'd like to
Speaker 1: play Xbox down here. Can you get your striper pole
Speaker 1: out of the basement, mom, you know, And so she
Speaker 1: was like, all right, the kids don't want it down there.
Speaker 1: They're embarrassed when their friends come over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my friends are telling their parents, right.
Speaker 3: She likes that she has word around town is yeah.
Speaker 1: The carpool line. They're talking about her, and she says that,
Speaker 1: you know, for a long time, she stuffed away her
Speaker 1: fun side that twirls on the pole because she became
Speaker 1: a CEO. But now she's ready to have her flower rebloom.
Speaker 4: Mmmm.
Speaker 1: Was she a CEO of wild Rose Beauty, Iris and
Speaker 1: bo Ali Baba? What was this? She the CEO of.
Speaker 2: All of them, would be my guest. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 2: they've all gone downhill. But now she's found all of
Speaker 2: this free time that she can go back to exploring
Speaker 2: hobbies that she previously was interested in.
Speaker 3: She was on so many zoom calls and then yeah,
Speaker 3: having the stripper pole in the background, that was just
Speaker 3: it was not good for the general CEO image.
Speaker 4: That she was trying to uphold there, so she had
Speaker 4: to kind of pack that away for a little while.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so now we see bron Whin and
Speaker 1: Lisa have a lunch at the Vita Tequila Lounge. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're having a lunch, they're just having
Speaker 1: a This is the Vita Tequila Lounge. So everybody come
Speaker 1: if you're in town, I guess. And she's you know,
Speaker 1: and I love how Lisa is just like, you know,
Speaker 1: stacking her papers. She's just she's.
Speaker 2: Got a clip serious work.
Speaker 1: She's busy, she's working. She's a business lady doing business things.
Speaker 1: She's working. And they discussed her skipper pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah there's no.
Speaker 1: Ceo ceo vibes, and she's just got she's just elevated.
Speaker 1: So they discussed their beef, you know, and it's sort
Speaker 1: of like the things that Lisa said about bron Win's daughter.
Speaker 1: We see a flash too when we were in New
Speaker 1: York at the reunion and that whole journey about you know,
Speaker 1: Braun when agreeing to talk to Lisa about it on
Speaker 1: camera and Lisa knowing the what would be her former
Speaker 1: in laws if she would have married that guy who
Speaker 1: died it's a big it's a big mess. And you know,
Speaker 1: Ron when rightfully so, feeling very sort of stabbed in
Speaker 1: the back by Lisa about that whole thing. And then
Speaker 1: Lisa also of course calling around to find out that
Speaker 1: Brahmin didn't buy that four million dollar necklace that not
Speaker 1: one person in the world thought she bought, you know,
Speaker 1: and she says, you know, and then you made me
Speaker 1: feel like a horror by speaking about my husband, you know,
Speaker 1: saying that I sucked the gout dick or whatever, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't think you're a horror. I don't.
Speaker 1: They both, I think genuinely apologized to each other. There
Speaker 1: was no I'm sorry if you felt that way. There
Speaker 1: was no i'm sorry if well, it was just I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for what I said that hurt you. They actually
Speaker 1: like used the correct apology to each other.
Speaker 2: I believe waiting for Lisa to drop a I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but but she didn't even I'm really.
Speaker 3: It was kind of the whole conversation though, was teetering.
Speaker 3: It was like on the edge of if this goes
Speaker 3: a little bit sideways, if somebody interprets something a little
Speaker 3: bit different than how it's supposed to land, here, this
Speaker 3: could go really bad really quick, Like there was some
Speaker 3: tension in this even though it was, yeah, a pretty
Speaker 3: successful apology, mutual apology.
Speaker 1: I felt bron when kept that on the tracks. I
Speaker 1: felt like Lisa could have gone off, but Bronin kind
Speaker 1: of kept it on the tracks and I did, like,
Speaker 1: you know the end that Lisa goes into her baby
Speaker 1: voice and goes, oh my god, we did the whole
Speaker 1: thing without even yelling. Brama goes into her baby voice, goes,
Speaker 1: I know, she goes because she goes for you. It's
Speaker 1: harder because you get loud and I get cutting, which
Speaker 1: is like you get loud because you're stupid, and I
Speaker 1: get cutting because I'm smart. It was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dig, but Lisa's maybe not bright enough to
Speaker 1: pick up on it, but I picked up on it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, it was great, it was good.
Speaker 1: It was a good one. It was a good one.
Speaker 1: They hug it out. They have a genuine hug out
Speaker 1: and ridiculous outfits, and that's what we're here for. That's
Speaker 1: what we like on the show right.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we get the best scene I think of
Speaker 1: the whole well, I don't know, there's two choices here,
Speaker 1: but this is the best one for me because I
Speaker 1: love Mary. Mary goes to see her renovated church that
Speaker 1: looks exactly like the church looked before with her cousin
Speaker 1: Big Joe. Now she reminds us about Big Joe one
Speaker 1: time took one year to put hardwood floors in the
Speaker 1: upstairs of their house, which is like a three day project.
Speaker 1: And she says, he's a contractor. He takes advantage, he does.
Speaker 1: And they walk in and they immediately see the painting
Speaker 1: that we've seen before, which is a Mama, her grandmother
Speaker 1: with Jesus. Yes, and that's not weird, and they know that.
Speaker 1: They accept that as being a painting that should happen.
Speaker 1: And she's walking around going to you know that molding
Speaker 1: up there that should match the cards. Oh yes, man,
Speaker 1: yes ma'am. And there are nails sticking out of the pews. Oh,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's bad, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. Why does
Speaker 1: her cousin constantly call her yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2: I think he's scared of her, terrified.
Speaker 1: It's the respect of her as the as the leader
Speaker 1: of the church.
Speaker 2: Have no I think he's scared.
Speaker 3: I think he's just scared yeah, if he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Of the pair the power that Mary got Cosby wields,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a couple of different ways. Yeah, Like definitely
Speaker 3: there's a concern for well being. If things don't go,
Speaker 3: if things aren't to Mary's liking, then yeah, there will
Speaker 3: be hell to pay.
Speaker 2: It's not helping with the cult leader accusations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their first cousin is calling her yes, ma'am. And
Speaker 1: I believe her other cousin is her housekeeper, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: is that an aunt. I think it's a cousin.
Speaker 2: It's some family member. We saw that was the last season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: We saw her first season. We saw her first season too,
Speaker 1: that lady who just like well series around. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been employed long term, so that's good. It's promising.
Speaker 1: And you're thinking, like, because I think about my cousins
Speaker 1: and what we did when we were little, you know,
Speaker 1: like playing outside and doing crazy things. And now I
Speaker 1: got to say yes ma'am to my cousin Connie, like no.
Speaker 3: No, oh, we were talking about yeah, cousin, Uh, just
Speaker 3: the typical cousin. Things of watching inappropriate movies or like
Speaker 3: scary move too scary of a movie with your cousins
Speaker 3: that's like a cousin right of passage, so.
Speaker 1: They're older and their parents said they could have and yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I was like one of the older cousins.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of my cousins are much younger. It
Speaker 3: was like, well, one side of my family, I was
Speaker 3: like the youngest cousins, and then the other side of
Speaker 3: the family, I was one of the oldest cousins. Okay,
Speaker 3: so then it was like I've kind of had both
Speaker 3: sides of that experience too, where it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: get to be too young for the things that you're
Speaker 3: being involved in, and then you also get to expose
Speaker 3: kids to things that maybe they shouldn't be watching at
Speaker 3: that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not calling you, sir though, Oh.
Speaker 4: Nobody's calling me sir. No, yeah at all.
Speaker 1: Would they see you for Thanksgiving? They're like, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Would you like me to pass you the gravy? Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: I mean it's wild And so obviously they planned, you know,
Speaker 1: to sit down and have this conversation to give us
Speaker 1: this backstory, because I have to imagine, after all the
Speaker 1: years on this show, that the production said, Mary, we
Speaker 1: can't just not address the fact that you're the leader
Speaker 1: of this church, like we can't and there's been so
Speaker 1: much written about it, and we just never address what
Speaker 1: she did was she just shut the church down. It
Speaker 1: was like, nope, I'm not doing that anymore. But now
Speaker 1: she's bringing it back. So I wonder if she's gonna
Speaker 1: be like a nicer, softer Mary so big. Joe says, now,
Speaker 1: how's Robert Junior doing? And she says, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's day by day, and she says, it's hurtful because
Speaker 1: we're so close now, but I'm now fully aware of
Speaker 1: what he's doing, and so that's actually more hurtful because
Speaker 1: I'm really aware when he's falling off because before she wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know, paying attention. And that's really sad. And I
Speaker 1: think that just the brief part I watched to watch
Speaker 1: What Happens Live before we got on, she did say that,
Speaker 1: you know, because he recently got arrested for like domestic
Speaker 1: abuse in a parking lot or something, that she said,
Speaker 1: he really actually has never had a fall like that.
Speaker 1: He's never had a rock bottom, He's never he's never
Speaker 1: had any consequences of his actions. She said, so actually
Speaker 1: that was good that he that that happened to him,
Speaker 1: because now he's doing better than ever, you know, which
Speaker 1: takes Robert.
Speaker 3: And she was talking about that too, where it was
Speaker 3: like it sounded like with her grandma, it was kind
Speaker 3: of like, hey, I'm handing the reins over to you.
Speaker 3: Like Mary had that moment where it was like here
Speaker 3: you go, I'm trusting you with this, and then like
Speaker 3: she's kind of hoping for that same level of confidence
Speaker 3: in Robert Junior. But it's like there's progress that needs
Speaker 3: to be made there too, because it's like she might
Speaker 3: be thinking about that too of like what's the legacy,
Speaker 3: what's the.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even think about Robert Junior taking over
Speaker 1: the church?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not going to go to cousin Joe.
Speaker 3: It takes me a year to put in the hardwood
Speaker 3: floors upstairs.
Speaker 1: That's going to work. No, but he's not going to
Speaker 1: get banished because he's doing a great job. No, you bet.
Speaker 1: He'd better be sending her birthday cards. You know what'll
Speaker 1: happen if you don't. Yeah. So, anyway, she gives us
Speaker 1: the backstory that she wants us to know. Okay, which
Speaker 1: if you've listened to the Bravo docket about this or
Speaker 1: various other podcasts and things. This doesn't quite jive with
Speaker 1: what the actual legal paper show is the story, but
Speaker 1: this is the story. She and again, I'm a marry apologist,
Speaker 1: so I just like this is fine. This is what
Speaker 1: she says. She says that she just couldn't believe it
Speaker 1: that Grandma Mama wanted to pass the church down to her.
Speaker 1: She couldn't believe it, which of course meant, you know,
Speaker 1: she passed that you're gonna have to take the husband too,
Speaker 1: because that's just part of it. So Robert just obeyed
Speaker 1: what Mama wanted, which was to marry the granddaughter, which
Speaker 1: was her. And then it was crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: her mother tried to take over, and Big Joe goes
Speaker 1: she wanted that power, and it seems like she came
Speaker 1: in one time and tried to take over a service,
Speaker 1: pretended like she was going to lead the choir, and
Speaker 1: then with her dark energy and her minions tried to
Speaker 1: take over the church service and they had to call
Speaker 1: the police. And the person that thought they would never
Speaker 1: get put out got put out, which is her mother.
Speaker 1: They're referring to her mother. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they were talking to her as this person got asked,
Speaker 1: so you're telling me in the middle of a church service.
Speaker 1: She her mom turns around and goes, I'm the captain now,
Speaker 1: I'm in church now, And they called the police who
Speaker 1: came in escoed, Wow, can you imagine being at that
Speaker 1: church service?
Speaker 4: Well, that's what it was like.
Speaker 3: Okay, we we've gone to church a few times in
Speaker 3: our adult life together because like, not not so much,
Speaker 3: not so much for this guy. I was raised in it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Okay, I think I'm good, Like I've
Speaker 3: hit my lifetime supply. So like we did when we
Speaker 3: moved new places sometimes it was like hey, you know,
Speaker 3: like you get to know people in.
Speaker 4: The community and stuff.
Speaker 3: We went to a church service one time. Do you
Speaker 3: remember which one I'm talking about? When we moved in
Speaker 3: with your mom and then we went to that church service,
Speaker 3: a random church service.
Speaker 4: And it was so it was in.
Speaker 3: It was East Coast, it was in New Jersey, Okay,
Speaker 3: and it was so it was like, okay, it was
Speaker 3: a rebuking sort of.
Speaker 2: Hold on, it's bringing memories back, yeaheah. It was strange
Speaker 2: where there was.
Speaker 4: Like okay, no, so it wasn't. It wasn't that. It
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 3: There was some discomfort with the volunteer situations that people
Speaker 3: found themselves in, where some people in the congregation who
Speaker 3: are like longer term members who've been at that church
Speaker 3: for a longer period of time, there was like a
Speaker 3: pecking order that had been established where it was like
Speaker 3: new people need to do the grunt work of this stuff,
Speaker 3: so like if you're gonna come, you know, set up
Speaker 3: the chairs, or like you're gonna volunteer to watch the
Speaker 3: kids and the kids service, and so it was like
Speaker 3: a whole thing where it was like all this other
Speaker 3: drama where we were like it's like tuning in, you
Speaker 3: know to episode ten and like season finales next week,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I have no idea what's going.
Speaker 1: They didn't take into account that anybody was there that
Speaker 1: day that didn't go to the church.
Speaker 4: Anybody visiting today. Yeah, Like, there wasn't that.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that conversation and it was like, oh, we're guests,
Speaker 3: we're new here.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: And that's fascinating you.
Speaker 3: We walked into quite quite a predicament where yeah, it
Speaker 3: was like I'm not doing that because I've been a
Speaker 3: member of the you know, I had to do all
Speaker 3: this other stuff and so it was like.
Speaker 2: This amongst themselves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so then it was just like you're like, maybe this.
Speaker 1: Is not the church for us because we don't want
Speaker 1: to set up chairs and we can tell coming in
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to set up chairs or watch nursery
Speaker 1: and we don't want to do that. Want to come.
Speaker 2: Yeahs Lucky no one got arrested, Yeah.
Speaker 4: There was. The police were not called.
Speaker 3: You know, we didn't have to like, yeah, we didn't
Speaker 3: have to vote on anything of who the police were
Speaker 3: going to escort off the premises or anything.
Speaker 1: This is crazy, people that the people that have been
Speaker 1: there have been there. Now. If you listen to the
Speaker 1: Bravo Docket episode about it, there is like a whole
Speaker 1: thing between like Mary and her mom and like her
Speaker 1: mom had Mama exoomed to get the body tested and
Speaker 1: stuff like it's wild. So Mary says, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just full circle because her mother now has actually died,
Speaker 1: her mother, you know, disowned her, and she says, but
Speaker 1: now that my mom really actually left us, left the earth,
Speaker 1: it's all like official, she says, because it's like a
Speaker 1: more hurtful reality. She really is gone, and I really
Speaker 1: am realizing all the things that she did. She says,
Speaker 1: her mom is the one, and we just get like
Speaker 1: headlines splashed all over. Her mom is the one that
Speaker 1: put out all these articles about her and the church.
Speaker 3: I don't know if all of those came from.
Speaker 1: Her, all of them, all of them, though not all
Speaker 1: of them. But she's sad that her mother died. Not really,
Speaker 1: she's out of a lot of legal issues now that
Speaker 1: her mom's gone. But she does pull out a tissue
Speaker 1: to blow her nose and doesn't realize it's like a
Speaker 1: face mask, but it's like a Louis Vuitton face mask.
Speaker 1: She's like, what is this and he's just like, oh, Mary,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a Louis Vauton And he's like, thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: May I have another marry my cousin.
Speaker 3: She hasn't used this person since COVID, and so it
Speaker 3: was just like that I was in there. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure this is a cleanex and then like, which side
Speaker 3: of it are you using? I hope you're using like
Speaker 3: the inside that was on your face, not like the outside.
Speaker 4: Clean it.
Speaker 1: After I'm just gonna throw it away. She's gonna, yeah,
Speaker 1: even mistakes, Darling. So now we go to Angie at
Speaker 1: Lunatic Fringe, her salon, which she may or may not
Speaker 1: own three to ten franchises unclear, but it is her brand.
Speaker 1: She and her husband did start the first one, so
Speaker 1: it's unclear what steak they have in all of it,
Speaker 1: so who cares? So she has to read it her
Speaker 1: cosmotology license, So she's gonna do a fake perm on Heather.
Speaker 1: Heather agrees to come in. She was like, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So she's just practicing doing the little rulers, right. So
Speaker 1: she tells Heather the story about Lisa sending her assistant
Speaker 1: over whose name was Sage, and to gather the fresh
Speaker 1: Wolf products, and she sent her six hundred dollars venmo.
Speaker 1: And she says, I'm gonna I send you six hundred
Speaker 1: dollars venmo for the products, and can I send my cleaners?
Speaker 1: Your salon is so dusty? And she said, well, I
Speaker 1: fired back and said you should not. You shouldn't have
Speaker 1: sent the six hundred dollars. Send it to people who
Speaker 1: you actually owe money to. My salon is not dusty,
Speaker 1: but your product is because it's been sitting here for
Speaker 1: two years. Lisa fires back, at least I don't have
Speaker 1: to borrow money for vacations and pay back with a
Speaker 1: credit card. And Heather's like, way, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: now what's the credit card. The end of a she goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know I have a credit card in my name.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I fucking hope you do. You're like
Speaker 1: fifteen years old with a child in a business. What
Speaker 1: do you mean I have a credit card in my name?
Speaker 1: Like she was so proud of it.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's like, that's the stuff. That felt
Speaker 4: like Lisa.
Speaker 2: Ron Wynda have a credit card in her name.
Speaker 4: Oh that's true. Well, she debly.
Speaker 1: Can't have one in her name now.
Speaker 3: But like that feels like something that Lisa heard from somewhere. Yes,
Speaker 3: And then she was hanging on to that, and then
Speaker 3: she was using it in a time because it was
Speaker 3: and she was making her feel bad about her money situation.
Speaker 3: And then it's like, all right, well here's this, and
Speaker 3: it's like, well, that didn't know. It's not even true.
Speaker 3: So you gotta vet some of this information a little
Speaker 3: bit better if you're going to just throw those accusations.
Speaker 1: Around and again with Lisa apologies to Carly again with Lisa,
Speaker 1: just with the well these times to have the credit card?
Speaker 1: You what are you talking about? Like nobody knows what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Two thirds of a time, like come
Speaker 1: up with a better disk with a backstory, you know,
Speaker 1: And she goes, I have no idea. She goes, I
Speaker 1: don't know why she did all this, and you know,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like it is a sea level product.
Speaker 1: I do have a level products. And she DAEs her
Speaker 1: hair black and it doesn't look shiny, it's actually flat.
Speaker 1: And Heather goes, okay, but stop, like why do you
Speaker 1: have to don't do all that, you know, and she goes,
Speaker 1: I have to respond with something low or walk away.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to walk away. And now
Speaker 1: there's like, oh god, I thought everything was fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so the question is why did Lisa then do
Speaker 1: that After they seemed to work it out at the table.
Speaker 2: I think she went home and all she could think
Speaker 2: about was that line of you do French fries, I
Speaker 2: do franchise, Like.
Speaker 1: She's the the list product that should be in Walmart.
Speaker 2: Running through her mind all night, and so she decided
Speaker 2: to send someone over there to go collect the product.
Speaker 3: Well, because Lisa had been fighting with it was Whitney,
Speaker 3: it was bron When, and then it was Angie's. So
Speaker 3: Angie was the third fight at that lawsuit luncheon, and
Speaker 3: so I think she was kind of narrowing down like
Speaker 3: who she was going to have her next feud with.
Speaker 1: Essentially she cleared with Bronwyn.
Speaker 3: Yes, like she was like, I don't want any smoke
Speaker 3: from Bronwyn because like that got rough pretty quick. I
Speaker 3: wasn't really ready to handle all of that. And then
Speaker 3: the stuff with Whitney, it's just it's not interesting. It's
Speaker 3: them talking back and forth about their businesses to each other.
Speaker 3: Nobody really cares about that. So like the stuff with Angie,
Speaker 3: that seemed like it has, you know, the most potential
Speaker 3: to kind of evolve into something and continue along.
Speaker 2: Also thinks she knows more about Angie than she does
Speaker 2: about Witness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she saves it up. I mean, that's rough to
Speaker 1: be friends with somebody and be like, God, I hope
Speaker 1: I don't use this against me in two years if
Speaker 1: we're you know, well, Okay. The next scene was also incredible,
Speaker 1: and all this now we've got three good scenes that
Speaker 1: would be for best scene of thing we got that,
Speaker 1: we got the Mary at the Church, and we got
Speaker 1: this one with Whitney and Brittany, and then we also
Speaker 1: have Brahma with her mom. So oh, Whitney and Brittany
Speaker 1: go to a plant store and Brittany's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: need Jared and I are in such good place, like
Speaker 1: we're trying to get re engaged, and Whnney's like, oh God,
Speaker 1: like nobody cares. And she goes, but my daughter really
Speaker 1: doesn't like it, and she sometimes, I guess thinks I'm
Speaker 1: choosing him over her. Here's where Whitney reads Britney for
Speaker 1: filth in a plant store, and I loved it. I
Speaker 1: loved it. I was like, because a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like Whitney doesn't have much of a storyline, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: she just secured it by this. Yeah, yes, I mean
Speaker 1: she's like put down the cactus. So she says, maybe
Speaker 1: you should ask her. Well, if that's what she's upset
Speaker 1: with you about, thinking you choose men over your children,
Speaker 1: maybe you should ask her. And then what you could
Speaker 1: do is dump Jared to prove to her that you're
Speaker 1: not choosing a man over her. And she goes, no, offense,
Speaker 1: but your daughter needs to come first, and you know
Speaker 1: this mother daughter relationship is important. You should never give
Speaker 1: up on it. And Brittany goes, well, it's hard because
Speaker 1: like she won't make any space for me, And Whitney's like,
Speaker 1: you're the parent and you should give it thirty days.
Speaker 1: Get rid of Jared for thirty days. See what happens
Speaker 1: with your daughter. It's up and down with Jared. You
Speaker 1: could probably use a break. And if that's all she
Speaker 1: needs to see from you, it's a no brainer. This
Speaker 1: is your daughter. And then she says, listen to me
Speaker 1: and put down the cactus and she grabs her brother
Speaker 1: shoulders and says, this is your daughter, and instinctively you
Speaker 1: should feel you would do anything for her. Anything. Instinctively,
Speaker 1: that's what you should feel. And Brittany's like.
Speaker 2: Oh good, she doesn't.
Speaker 1: Should She doesn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think she does.
Speaker 1: She doesn't instinctively feel it. She goes anything, not even dating,
Speaker 1: Do you feel it? And she goes, yeah, yeah, she goes,
Speaker 1: and he goes because you standing here questioning it is
Speaker 1: making me feel a certain way about you. She opens
Speaker 1: her pathway yes, and I think Whitney's like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: a bad person. I hope that person makes sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I hope Whitney takes her to task on
Speaker 3: this and calls it out because I mean people were
Speaker 3: pointing that out to Britney last season too, as I'm
Speaker 3: sure one of her many announcements that were interrupted when
Speaker 3: people are like don't your daughters like not talk to
Speaker 3: you and stuff like.
Speaker 1: No live with her nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like there's a lot of people in
Speaker 3: your life that you have expended in order to continue
Speaker 3: this relationship pursuit with the Osmond And it's like, what
Speaker 3: are you getting out of this, because it's just it's
Speaker 3: very volatile.
Speaker 1: What are you getting out of it? Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: get to say you're dating an Osmond? Okay, you worry.
Speaker 2: Not even one that anybody can name off the top
Speaker 2: of their head unless they if you watch this show,
Speaker 2: you know his name. Otherwise you don't.
Speaker 1: One of the Osmond brothers with Donnie and the.
Speaker 2: Extended family member.
Speaker 3: I can't carry a tune in a bucket that one.
Speaker 1: No, not that we know of. He's not not not, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess is a sibling of Marie. No, Marie would
Speaker 1: be his aunt. Yeah, not even close, not even a
Speaker 1: close Osmond, come on now, So okay, so now we
Speaker 1: get Now we get Braunwin and her mom, Muzzy. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think Muzzy's on her birth certificate, but I
Speaker 1: would like to know what Muzzy's real name is. Is it?
Speaker 2: I hope it is Muzzy. I hope that Mussy has
Speaker 2: gone through life with that being her legal first name.
Speaker 3: On that Yeah, bron when and Lisa kept talking about
Speaker 3: a race to the bottom, I think the race to
Speaker 3: the bottom that we determined was Britney and Muzzy for
Speaker 3: worst mom.
Speaker 4: That was the race to the bottom of this episode.
Speaker 1: You could not be more correct. That is correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So brom And and Muzzy sit down, and Muzzy's wearing
Speaker 1: a sweater that says what does it say? It said like,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It was something really stupid and I
Speaker 1: haven't remember.
Speaker 2: On class, I spent a lot of time looking at
Speaker 2: Bronwen's sweatshirt or whatever she had on. I usually spend
Speaker 2: a lot of time trying to understand what it is
Speaker 2: Bronwyn is wearing.
Speaker 3: I get over stimulated every time the cameras are in.
Speaker 4: That living room.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: The furniture there's too many pieces of furniture in multiple directions.
Speaker 3: I don't know where the center the energy of this
Speaker 3: room is supposed to be.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: But if you say, like, meet me in the living room.
Speaker 4: It's like which one which.
Speaker 1: There's six sitting areas in this living room and they're
Speaker 1: all like, you need to balance on the edge of
Speaker 1: the chair because you might just Yeah, it makes Mary
Speaker 1: Cosby's house look nice. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's fourteen dogs that just will run between you
Speaker 3: as well, I'm sure, and just it's just bite you.
Speaker 1: And yeah. So brom And and her mom Muzzy, Okay,
Speaker 1: so her sister is there now, I'm so sorry her
Speaker 1: daughter is there. Who we assume? I don't assume. I
Speaker 1: think the daughter might be eighteen, she might be seventeen.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the boyfriend has just moved in, and I
Speaker 1: myself do have a little judgment about that. I does
Speaker 1: the boyfriend. Is he from a broken home and had
Speaker 1: nowhere to live or he's just like, hey, we're banging,
Speaker 1: we may as well just live together. And brom was like, sure.
Speaker 2: I think we need to know the story. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe it's probably potentially personal. So maybe that's why they're
Speaker 2: not telling us. But you know who's business, it's not Muzzi's.
Speaker 2: It's not Mussy because Muzzy's also a guest in this house, Well.
Speaker 3: It becomes Muzzy's business. Yeah, I think that's what people
Speaker 3: were pointing out. They were like, why is Muzzy concerned
Speaker 3: about this? Like when she lives in the same house
Speaker 3: as them, like.
Speaker 1: They all live and lucky to live there because she
Speaker 1: would have nowhere to live otherwise. Right, we're Todd youd
Speaker 1: better put some respect on Todd's name, Muzzy.
Speaker 3: I want to see Muzzy and Todd interact. That's what
Speaker 3: we were talking about. Because then my biggest fear though became.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, if they both gang up
Speaker 3: on Bronwyn, that would be a whole thing. But Carly
Speaker 3: thinks Todd does not get along with Muzzy, and so
Speaker 3: that's why we're not going to see them in the
Speaker 3: same space.
Speaker 2: I think Todd avoids spending any more time with Muzzy
Speaker 2: than he absolutely has to, which.
Speaker 1: That I agree. I agree with that. So they're sitting
Speaker 1: there and Gwynn and the boyfriend are like, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: going to our bowling leagu which means we're going to bang.
Speaker 1: And I was like, again me as a mother of
Speaker 1: people to say, just like, you know, no, fine, they're
Speaker 1: bay and they're fine, they're baying. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't You don't need to come up with bowlingly to
Speaker 1: tell me about it.
Speaker 3: Like I'm the nerd who actually does go to bowling
Speaker 3: league or like has gone to bowling league.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, cool, Like.
Speaker 1: Where are they're bowling?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your average? You know, like how you guys doing.
Speaker 4: But no, that's I guess that was code. So I'm
Speaker 4: not hip to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so the mom was like, oh, so they
Speaker 1: don't have enough space in the east wing of the
Speaker 1: house to bang it out, they got to go to
Speaker 1: bowling league and and mom says, well, you know, Gwyn,
Speaker 1: she's just following your example. And she goes, yeah, Mom,
Speaker 1: I know you probably don't agree with it, but like
Speaker 1: we're just very open and so that's how we do it.
Speaker 1: And mom goes, yeah, that's great, but it's not the
Speaker 1: kind of parenting that works, And Brahma goes, do you
Speaker 1: think your type of parenting works? Ronwin talks about how
Speaker 1: terrible her mom was when she was pregnant. Now she
Speaker 1: got pregnant out of wedlock in a Mormon family, not unusual.
Speaker 1: Half the Mormon wives that we see all had the
Speaker 1: same thing. They get pregnant when they're sixteen seventeen, they
Speaker 1: immediately get married. Brahman didn't go that route, and it
Speaker 1: was embarrassing because she apparently has two sisters that were
Speaker 1: pregnant at the same time, which is brutal.
Speaker 3: This whole story was just terrible because then bron Win's
Speaker 3: basically pointing out the whole thing. But this is like
Speaker 3: we saw this on with the Osbourne's. We were going
Speaker 3: back and watching the Osbourne's and then there's this other
Speaker 3: show called like the Basement, the Basement Tape, Basement Tapes
Speaker 3: or something like that, where it's the Osbourne's watching the
Speaker 3: original show.
Speaker 1: Like, so you watched the Osborne's watching the Osborne's.
Speaker 3: Yes, at one point on that we did, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the show within the show. And then I think
Speaker 3: at one point it was they were talking about where
Speaker 3: there was a scene in the original Osbourne where the
Speaker 3: kids were going out to clubs in LA when they're.
Speaker 4: Like sixteen and fifteen years old.
Speaker 3: Jack and Kelly are out in La at nightclubs at
Speaker 3: you know, one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 3: they looking back on it, you know, Jack had said
Speaker 3: something about like he has kids now, and so he's like,
Speaker 3: I could never imagine my kid letting my kids do that.
Speaker 3: And then it was like, well, it's a different time.
Speaker 3: It was that we knew all the the owners of
Speaker 3: the clubs and stuff, and so it was like they
Speaker 3: were very quick Jack, like Ozzie.
Speaker 2: And Sharon Sharon to defend trying to defend how they
Speaker 2: raised them.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, it was like, oh, we knew all the
Speaker 3: club owners, we knew this and stuff. So but Jack
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, but this would have been like
Speaker 3: not something that I would do, right, Like as a parent,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: It's turned out to be addicts as well, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know, there's.
Speaker 3: That, and I think there was even just the little
Speaker 3: thing that Jack had said at one point where it
Speaker 3: was like I could have done better with like more
Speaker 3: structure in my life because at that time, you know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to traditional school. It was just kind
Speaker 3: of like he would just sleep all day and then
Speaker 3: party all night, and so it was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's not great for a team at that age. And
Speaker 3: so for him, he was like, I could have done
Speaker 3: better with a little structure, and they were like, if
Speaker 3: you wanted structure, you should you could have said that,
Speaker 3: and it's like, but yeah, what he's saying is he's
Speaker 3: a kid.
Speaker 1: He's not on the it's not on the child to
Speaker 1: tell you how to parent, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's where it's like this weird dynamic
Speaker 3: that's becoming a parent here with bron Went. Even though
Speaker 3: I sniffed this out just from the way that bron
Speaker 3: Went offered soda to Muzzy the other episode and it
Speaker 3: was just like, can I get you a drink?
Speaker 4: And she's like, is this one cold?
Speaker 3: That was the response, and it was like, yes, it
Speaker 3: came out of the fridge.
Speaker 4: Things tend to be cold. There.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of hostility and Muzzy, Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3: It's the judgment and like immediate just everything that you're
Speaker 3: doing is wrong.
Speaker 1: We don't see the other sisters taken in Muzzy by
Speaker 1: the way, probably because she's around bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where are they?
Speaker 1: Where are they?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So so they're having this conversation, right and they're talking
Speaker 1: about how awful he was when she was pregnant, and
Speaker 1: she's just like, I never had a baby shower like
Speaker 1: we would.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: She told the story about going to the gap and
Speaker 1: she's buying clothes for the sister's baby and not hers,
Speaker 1: and she said, you know, you didn't know if I
Speaker 1: would ever have another pregnancy, but you made sure that
Speaker 1: this one was not a good pregnancy, not a happy pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and Muzzy goes, well, I was miserable trying to hide it.
Speaker 1: How do you think I felt? And in the talking head,
Speaker 1: Bromwin says, my mother is convinced that the person that
Speaker 1: was most hurt by my pregnancy was her. Yep, you
Speaker 1: know that's right, and so and she had said earlier,
Speaker 1: you know, like when I'm parenting, I think a lot
Speaker 1: about how I don't want to do it like my mother.
Speaker 1: And she's like, does that mean I'm like, no, that's growth.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then her mother implies that she had
Speaker 1: to babysit Gwen. She had to watch Gwen, her own grandchild,
Speaker 1: and like if she didn't, then what would have happened
Speaker 1: to her? And Brahma goes, if I didn't have you
Speaker 1: to watch her, I just would have gotten a second
Speaker 1: job or something like I would have hustled and figured
Speaker 1: out how to take care of her. She was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would have done. You just
Speaker 1: would have been on the street. And she's like, Mom,
Speaker 1: to act like I would have had to put my
Speaker 1: kid in foster care is like not true and really dark.
Speaker 1: And her mom's like, well, I don't know what you
Speaker 1: would have done without me. You refuse to put her
Speaker 1: up for adoption, blah blah blah. Can you imagine hearing
Speaker 1: your grandmother talk this.
Speaker 2: Way about you. No, she was having a real thank
Speaker 2: God for me moment. Well, you know, like she will
Speaker 2: never let braun Winn forget what she thinks were her sacrifices.
Speaker 2: And that's probably why she's living in this house right now,
Speaker 2: because she holds it over her head that she helped
Speaker 2: her so much.
Speaker 1: Right, But for Gwen to hear grandmother talk like this
Speaker 1: about her, as, wow, I didn't know I was such
Speaker 1: a piece of shit burden to you, like I had
Speaker 1: any choice of being born, you know. So Mom says,
Speaker 1: you know, I got to tell you something, Browhen. Just
Speaker 1: because I don't say you're wonderful doesn't mean I don't
Speaker 1: think you are. I just had to be careful to
Speaker 1: be sure I don't say it because I don't want
Speaker 1: you to think you're too good. And Brom was like
Speaker 1: wow wow. I mean Brom was like, camera's right here
Speaker 1: and you don't even care, like you just wow wow.
Speaker 2: This was really toxic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should get them on the uh couple was
Speaker 3: the couple's therapy, same thing that Farah and her mom
Speaker 3: and family therapy one. Yeah, there would be a couple
Speaker 3: of seasons worth of stuff. I think probably that we
Speaker 3: could get out of this.
Speaker 1: That's wow. So I would be Now, I know that
Speaker 1: Rom's dad is you know, not well or Alzheimer's or whatever.
Speaker 1: So but I would have liked to have known her
Speaker 1: relationship with her dad because he was high up in
Speaker 1: the church. So it's like mom was trying to protect
Speaker 1: dad's reputation in the church. But was dad so mean
Speaker 1: to Bronwin as well? You know she talks about him
Speaker 1: a little bit more warmly.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I mean like in so personal experience
Speaker 3: and then also just like researching for like family system
Speaker 3: sort of stuff, like usually if there is somebody who's
Speaker 3: kind of more the agitator and the Beader, there could
Speaker 3: be somebody who's just more of an enabler or like
Speaker 3: a passive enabler, and so like her dad could have
Speaker 3: been that where he kind of receives a little bit
Speaker 3: of that as well, same thing like Muzzy dishes it
Speaker 3: out to everybody here, and then that's where Bronwyn has
Speaker 3: a connection with her dad. But it's like that's kind
Speaker 3: of the tough part of that whole dynamic. Then too,
Speaker 3: is where it's like I think Bronwin's searching for like
Speaker 3: a redo of her experience with her mom, because now
Speaker 3: Gwen's like the similar age.
Speaker 4: That Bronwynn was, and so now she's kind.
Speaker 3: Of like, here's your chance to like make it up
Speaker 3: to me and like prove to me that you're not.
Speaker 4: A horrible person.
Speaker 3: And then I don't think it's working out the way
Speaker 3: that Brian wouldn't expect, Like she was really hoping to
Speaker 3: see something positive out of this and like still waiting.
Speaker 1: Muzzy's like, listen, it affected me. It was so embarrassing
Speaker 1: when you were pregnant, Like who cares that Gwen's nowt eighteen,
Speaker 1: Let's still talk about it, you know. So now we
Speaker 1: go to Meredith and the Angk meeting up. As she
Speaker 1: drives up, It's very strange because Agk is like, look
Speaker 1: at you driving. I was like, s Merada, just get
Speaker 1: a driver's license? Like she just got bought missfoot, Like
Speaker 1: did she just learn how to drive?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I get the feeling that maybe Meredith's not supposed to
Speaker 2: drive on some of the medications that she's on.
Speaker 3: Either that are like, yeah, she rents places when she's there.
Speaker 4: Did she rent a car she was normally.
Speaker 3: Taking ubers everywhere or something because she doesn't.
Speaker 1: It was weird. It was strange, look at you driving?
Speaker 1: And she goes, yeah, this Kina's got a cavy art cooler.
Speaker 1: I was like, probably for juice boxes. But sure, it's fine.
Speaker 4: We can use it for whatever you like. You can
Speaker 4: use it for everybody.
Speaker 1: You can put your beer in there. No, don't do that.
Speaker 1: So Angie tells us that it was Angie this if
Speaker 1: I said, Heather, I did not mean to say that.
Speaker 1: Angie said, look at you driving, And she says she
Speaker 1: and Meredith have been working on their relationship, and because
Speaker 1: I just need to let Meredith know that Lisa is
Speaker 1: not the Laverne to her Shirley like she is not
Speaker 1: because you know, Meredith Lisa have always been like the
Speaker 1: corner stone of the show. And then of course Lisa
Speaker 1: had that hot mic moment, and since then they're friends.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, it's kind of like you
Speaker 1: gotta deal with Muzzy. You gotta like, don't get too close,
Speaker 1: right right, So Angie tells her, tells Meredith, you know,
Speaker 1: in the past, when you and I were not in
Speaker 1: a good place, I just wanted to let you know
Speaker 1: Lisa called me and encourage me to dig up dirt
Speaker 1: on people in your family. Gave me names and certain
Speaker 1: issues bankruptcy, shoplifting. I just want you to know she's
Speaker 1: doing that, she's doing your research on everyone, true or not,
Speaker 1: and that she's holding the information. E Meredith goes, but
Speaker 1: why would she do that to me when she and
Speaker 1: I were getting along, call you and tell you to
Speaker 1: dig stuff up on me to use against me, dig
Speaker 1: up dirt on family members, which is not true. I
Speaker 1: was like, she didn't even know what it is.
Speaker 4: She is not true?
Speaker 1: Denied it. Yeah, I was like, who shoplifted? Who had
Speaker 1: a bankruptcy? I'd like to know? Not true? And she
Speaker 1: says and you know, I'm gonna have to talk to
Speaker 1: her about this. And she says, okay, good because she
Speaker 1: said it word for word.
Speaker 4: I'm counting on it. Yeah, Like, I want you to
Speaker 4: bring it up. You need to bring this up.
Speaker 1: But she said word for word. I was like, does
Speaker 1: she have it in text? Does she have it on
Speaker 1: a voicemail she record her without her knowledge? Is Utah
Speaker 1: a two party state?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: How does she know for sure that she said it definitive?
Speaker 1: She said yeah, And Meredith says, this is so hard
Speaker 1: to believe. And Angie said things in the past, this
Speaker 1: is disturbing, and I'll get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: And then we said next week they have some sort
Speaker 1: of outdoor luncheon situation and the two of them start
Speaker 1: screaming at each other. So maybe she does.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that Angie realized that when Lisa
Speaker 3: sent her assistant over to reclaim the Great Wolf Lodge products, Yes.
Speaker 1: They would really sell a Great Wolf Lodge. That would be.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's that's who That's what you need.
Speaker 3: You need a good brand, deal partnership.
Speaker 2: Not spending enough time on the marketing.
Speaker 1: No, But like I think Karas sas whatever the straight.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but like the I think Angie knew immediately
Speaker 3: as soon as that happened. She was like, oh, we're
Speaker 3: at war, okay, So like now she knows I need
Speaker 3: to go for Lisa's allies first before I try like
Speaker 3: a full assault here, and so like that's what she's
Speaker 3: bracing for. I don't know how Mary Cosby gets so
Speaker 3: upset with Angie, though, I'm very concerned.
Speaker 2: About this, surprised.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that clip of her taking off or whatever.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 1: But last time I watched What Happens Love, they asked
Speaker 1: a question about what did you think about the allegations
Speaker 1: about Angie using somebody else's money to go on vacation
Speaker 1: or something, and Mary Cosey goes, well, that's not true.
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, they must.
Speaker 4: Be back together, still defending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: This is just like a light here was a brief moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, light something that happened, because I mean she got
Speaker 3: upset with her end of last season two. On their vacation,
Speaker 3: they had kind of an argument, but then that bond
Speaker 3: did them a little bit tighter too.
Speaker 2: So then Tiffany's luncheon, yeah.
Speaker 4: A little bit a little bit there. The breakfast at
Speaker 4: Tiffany's thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that took me a second. I was like, what, Oh,
Speaker 1: and then we forget about the bad bangs? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: never forget It took me a second. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well listen, you guys. There was so
Speaker 1: many like pivotal scenes in this episode that are going
Speaker 1: to be so important for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I got to talk to you guys
Speaker 1: about it, because normally I just sort of gloss over, like,
Speaker 1: here's what happened to Miami, Here's what happened in Saul
Speaker 1: like OC. So I'm really glad we got to do
Speaker 1: like a full breakdown and that you guys are as
Speaker 1: into it as I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely a set up episode for
Speaker 2: I think all the drama that's to come for the
Speaker 2: rest of the season. So it's a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And is Muzzy gonna go back from whence she came?
Speaker 1: Or is Muzzy here to say?
Speaker 2: I hope we see Muzzy have to pack her bags
Speaker 2: like that would be the highlight of the season for me.
Speaker 4: I want Todd and Muzzy to have it out some where. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I.
Speaker 3: Need to see I just need to get an idea
Speaker 3: of what that is, like just even.
Speaker 1: Just a dinner table thing briefly, and that we could
Speaker 1: see if he hates.
Speaker 3: Her, like even with him, yeah, like he's heading out
Speaker 3: on a business trip or something. And then all it's
Speaker 3: gonna take is one sentence to get a pretty good
Speaker 3: read as far as what's.
Speaker 4: Going on between them.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: You know what, it would give me vibes of a
Speaker 1: a Tom Girardi and Erica, like I was talking Erica.
Speaker 1: It would be And that's how Todd talks to bron Win,
Speaker 1: you know, although he says he saw himself on TV
Speaker 1: and knows he needs to do better, but we haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. But if he snaps at Muzzy that way,
Speaker 1: like what if Muzzy came in the kitchen was like,
Speaker 1: you guys had a coffee because I was going to
Speaker 1: get some coffee and he's like, you don't live here, Muzzy,
Speaker 1: you know you? It would be that kind of a
Speaker 1: It would be. It would be like that, right, where's
Speaker 1: my Starbucks mug?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who moved this Starbucks mug?
Speaker 3: She's just been breaking them slowly, just constantly just chipping
Speaker 3: them away, breaking the handles, off.
Speaker 1: He's like, Muzzy, you know, I'm never going back to Singapore.
Speaker 1: How am I going to get that mug? Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of scenarios. But I because she put
Speaker 1: her dad in a place close to her house. But
Speaker 1: is that where dad is now permanently staying, so mom
Speaker 1: needs to be closed or does a temporary fixed to
Speaker 1: dad have an accident or something?
Speaker 2: Well, Muzzy, didn't she say? Muzzy also had a medical issue,
Speaker 2: a medical scare that she was going through, and then
Speaker 2: also her dad time through Alzheimer's. Yeah, and that progressing
Speaker 2: and they both needed care at the same time. But
Speaker 2: it seems like, you know, Muzzy's back to her normal self,
Speaker 2: so why not?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she really settled in there.
Speaker 1: I'd like to meet Bromin's sisters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have we seen them on camera before.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see if they have a good relationship
Speaker 1: with Muzzy. Is Muzzy okay to them and it's just
Speaker 1: awful lebron One.
Speaker 3: Maybe for the holidays or something, if they have people over,
Speaker 3: that could.
Speaker 2: Be an interesting scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be interesting.
Speaker 1: To get like like the Richard sisters in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: like talking about Big Kathy like it would be like
Speaker 1: Braunwin and her sisters talking about Muzzy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, where we're going to unload her next, it's
Speaker 2: your turn.
Speaker 1: Your turn, Go ahead and traumatize your children for a month.
Speaker 1: That's it. Now, tell everybody where they can find you, guys,
Speaker 1: Corey and Carly, tell everybody where they can find you. Again,
Speaker 1: what you're covering so we know what to drop in on.
Speaker 1: Don't if you don't want to have to watch that that?
Speaker 1: What did that?
Speaker 2: What's the show called Special Forces Survivor?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's called surviv what they called pray?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got our podcasts Surviving Sister Wives, and then
Speaker 3: we also have Surviving Reality, so you can check us
Speaker 3: out everywhere you find podcasts. We have our Patreon at
Speaker 3: patreon dot com slash Surviving Pod, and then you can
Speaker 3: find all of our links to everything at beacons dot
Speaker 3: ai slash Surviving Pod.
Speaker 1: Well, what's that about? What's that website about?
Speaker 4: It's like a link tree, but.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, got all the links in there, all the links,
Speaker 2: all the places you can find us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me ask you about your social media
Speaker 1: because I went to tag you on Instagram this week
Speaker 1: and there was no place to tag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went out.
Speaker 1: I went out of Instagram try to make to make
Speaker 1: sure I had and missed it. I went back into Instagram,
Speaker 1: so you're not on it.
Speaker 2: No, I think that we may need to make an Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, back in when we were just surviving Sister Wives,
Speaker 2: there was not a lot of content on Instagram about
Speaker 2: sister Wives. But that was five years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that was when our only social media was
Speaker 3: we were on Reddit and we were on Twitter, and
Speaker 3: so it's like, well now that's not even a platform anymore.
Speaker 3: So times have changed, and then yeah, we're kind of
Speaker 3: we bounced around a little bit, but mostly we're on TikTok.
Speaker 3: That's the main social media outlet right now, and YouTube
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's Surviving Pod. It's Surviving Pod on TikTok.
Speaker 4: Right Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well we'll do a reel about this and I'll
Speaker 1: put it on TikTok and tag you cool. Awesome, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget a lot. I put this stuff on Instagram
Speaker 1: and then ker it'll go did you put that on
Speaker 1: TikTok too, I'm like, I.
Speaker 3: Forgot, It's everywhere youtubek Instagram. So yeah, I think that
Speaker 3: was what we were dreading was it's another place to post,
Speaker 3: and we were like, well it's we probably should though,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 4: But thank you so much for having us on.
Speaker 3: Obviously huge fans of the Pink Shade podcast from forever ago.
Speaker 3: I know we were talking about pain in the pod
Speaker 3: last time we were recording.
Speaker 1: And that was that's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's like, it feels like a while ago.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's crazy. That's nuts, that's nuts, that's nuts.
Speaker 1: Since you guys listen to that. I literally was looking
Speaker 1: over here to be like, what could I show them
Speaker 1: that I have. I've got pain and then I've got
Speaker 1: pain in the pod stuff right here. I've got stickers.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I've got snickers. Like what am I going to know?
Speaker 1: What am I going to what am I going to
Speaker 1: use that for?
Speaker 2: Maybe Maraths Marx can sell them in our story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be the past code to get into the
Speaker 3: Kaffar speakeasy.
Speaker 1: I will tell you the second time Ingrid went, she
Speaker 1: brought me back of Meredith Mark's like post it notepad
Speaker 1: that I think she took off the counter when the
Speaker 1: girl wasn't looking.
Speaker 2: It's like a prescription pad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's used to that. That's fitting. That's fitting. Okay, guys, everybody,
Speaker 1: I would listen to Corey and Carly they do all
Speaker 1: the Sister Wives stuff, and go check out their TikTok
Speaker 1: as well, and one day they'll have Instagram and we'll
Speaker 1: tag them on there as well. All right, thanks guys,
Speaker 1: thank you,