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Speaker 2: All right, we get ready for a weekend that has

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an intriguing heavyweight main event in London for the WBO

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interim heavyweight title that currently belongs to Joseph Parker.

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Speaker 1: Bobby O. Wardley will challenge him.

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Speaker 2: We're ready to discuss that Queensbury Design pay per view

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Speaker 1: TJ Reeves.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Insider Dan Rayfield, fight Freaks Unite the substack after all,

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Speaker 1: Full disclosure, you.

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Speaker 2: And I did not have a recap podcast because there

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was not much to recap. We did put on the

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pod feed the Joseph Parker interview where they could hear it.

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You and I haven't talked in like three or four days.

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I'm going through Rayfield withdrawal right now.

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Speaker 3: I Am not going through That's okay.

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Speaker 2: The feeling, I guess is just solitary for me. On

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this so all right, so we'll get into a little

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preview mode again. If you want to not only hear

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built up this main event. It is coming Saturday afternoon

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US time Saturday night primetime at the O two Arena

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in London. We've outlined the risk that Joseph Parker is

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obviously taking here because he could sit and wait to

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be the full champion and or fight Alexander Usik. He

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wants to stay active. He's gonna fight Fabio Wardley, who's undefeated,

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who can punch. All right, let's get into the preview mode.

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What doll we think about this and what do you

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think ultimately happens. Give me some analysis.

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Speaker 4: Well, I really like this fight. I mean, if you're

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a boxing fan and you like heavyweights, this is a

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good matchup. This is two of the top ten heavyweights

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in boxing. I think if you take a look at

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it and you're honest with your assessment, you'd have to

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say at this stage of the game that Joseph Parker

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is the rightful number two and I say that because

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Fury is in essence retired. Anthony Joshua has not fought

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for over one year and is coming up a devastating

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knockout loss. Deontay Wilder, although has won a fight a

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few months ago as against a low level opponent, has

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been also relatively inactive and has lost fights since then.

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point is if you take a look at the heavyweight

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division as it is currently there, there's there's good fighters

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in the division, but at the very top Joseph Parker

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because of his activity level and the level of the

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opposition that he's defeated over his last few fights. Firstly,

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he's won like six fights in a row since. He

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had a tremendous battle and a great Fight of the

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Year candidate that he ultimately lost, but it wasn't like

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he got blown away. He did lose in the you know,

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in the in the by a knockout late in the

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fight against Joe Joyce, but that was a hell of

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a fight and that's all. That's a while ago. You know,

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in a lot about boxing, TJ. You know, this is

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kind of like what he had done for me lately.

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back in like late twenty twenty two, he won sort

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good opponents, but not like top top opponents. You know,

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the get the activity level going, get the confidence back,

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work on some things. He was with Andy Lee, the trainer,

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and then he went on another He continued to run,

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but against a much level, a much higher level of opposition.

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out basically, he won you know, ten eleven, twelve rounds

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of the fight. Then he had another very significant win

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where he got up off the deck from a knockdown.

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had done more than enough to win the decision against Jiang.

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in the most recent fight where he was supposed to

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fight Daniel da that was back in February of this year,

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but Duwah pulled out of the fight during the fight

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week he said he was ill, and instead he took

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on Martin McCauley on like two days notice. And even

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though Martin mccaley obviously hadn't had a full training camp

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and maybe wasn't an opti them condition. Still a big,

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strong guy with a lot of experience, and and Joseph

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other than Alexander Usik with the back to back wins

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over Tyson Fury, plus you know, the most recent knocked

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out against Dubois back of you know several back in

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the summer, late summertime. Who else is better in the

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heavy division in terms of their recent resume that deserves

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the shots. So to make a long story short about

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what's going on with this fight against Fabia Wardley, is

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and because Usik is the unified champion with all the belts,

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they use the rotation system which tells you the order.

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organization is up next in the mandatory. They've you know,

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they can't all fight the mandatory at the same time,

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so they have that agreement. This is based on what

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was a lawsuit from you know, thirty years ago. The

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WBO is next in line. So if Usik wants to

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maintain the four belts. He will fight the winner of

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the fight, because if Fabio Wardley wins, he takes over

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the interim championship and also becomes the mandatory. So the

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the option for Usik is two things. Fight the winner

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of Saturday's fight, or vacate and orby stripped of the title.

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The wb has been very WBO has been very clear

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about that, and so Usik is risking his position. I mean,

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Parker is risking his position because he's already got a mandatory.

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doesn't want to just wait around. He spoke about it

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in the interview that you referenced that I did with

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him recently, and so he's going in the ring and

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it's not like he's just going in with a nobody.

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I mean, if you want to get paid a lot

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of money in headline and then being a big arena,

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and you know they're putting this fight unfortunately as a

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pay per view, all those things that go into it,

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you have to fight at least an interesting opponent in

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Fabia Wardley certainly is that he is the WBA interim

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champion that will go away because they're not going to

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allow that to be unified.

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Speaker 3: But whatever.

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Speaker 4: The point though, in terms of Fabio is he is

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a fresh a fresh earth face on the on the scene.

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He is undefeated. He carries a tremendous right hand. He

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is undefeated. He is nineteen oh to one. The one

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draw was a Fight of the Year candidate a couple

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of years ago, ins Frasier Clark. They did an immediate rematch.

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He knocked him out in the first round. I think

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he made his point that was. First fight was March

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of twenty four, rematch was October of twenty four, and

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then after that. In the most recent fight, he fought

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Justice Hooney, and I consider Justice Hoony a prospect, not

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a true contender. When he fought him, he didn't have

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the kind of experience, not that Fabia Wardley's got a

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ton of experience, but he had more than Hoony, and

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Hooney did a great job out boxing.

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Speaker 1: Hooney was winning the fight.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hands down.

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Speaker 1: But this is why we love boxing. What happened, So.

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Speaker 3: HOONI was up.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the scorecards here on box Wreck he

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was up eighty nine to eighty two on two cards.

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In eighty eight to eighty three on the third score card,

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so he's on his way to a very clear unanimous decision.

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But Fabia Wardley has one of the best right hands

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in the heavyweight division. They may not be Wilder esque,

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but it's pretty damn good. And he drilled him with

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one shot and knocked him out in the tenth round

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and rescued his position. So that was dramatic, It was fun,

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it was exciting, and you know, he kept his undefeated record.

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And now he's taken on Joseph Parker, so you know

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what happens in the matchup TJ. You have to look

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at Parker as the obvious favorite, got a tremendous men experience,

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fought a lot of good guys, showing a great chin. Obviously,

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he's got the one loss in terms of a stoppage

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loss to Joseph Joe Joyce.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But the other two losses were decisions. You know, one

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was against Anthony Joshu when a mega fight that was

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to unify titles. He did lose in another tremendous battle

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against Dillian White. And as a matter of fact, that

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fight also like Saturdays fight, took place at the O

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two Arena, and as Joe joked around me when we

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did our interview. You know he called this a a

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in an arena revenge fight, like to get you know,

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because his only other fight in this building he lost.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna touch on this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just we we cannot overstate this is

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gonna be electric because the British fans are tremendous fans.

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This is a heavyweight. They're gonna be partisan for him,

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and I wonder. I mean, again, Parker's been through this

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against Anthony Joshua, against Dillian White, going against the home

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country guy in that setting, so it probably won't phase him,

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but it's definitely advantage at least psyching up Fabio warldly

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and maybe empowering him to whatever extent that that matters.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you I happen to agree with

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Joe's opinion about this. Joe Parker is of the opinion

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that he'll have a good amount of fans there.

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Speaker 3: Chaired for them.

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Speaker 4: Also, look, they're professionals, so rooting for the guy who

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not rooting for the I don't think it's going to

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really have a big impact. But the reality is, although

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Fabia Worthy is the British fighter and he's fighting obviously

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in London, Joseph Parker is going to have a fan support.

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I mean, he's fought Jesora twice, He's fought Joe Joyce,

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Anthony Joshua there. He has had a number of fights

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in the UK through the years, and this is just

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another one, you know, as he just like I joked,

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he said, it's a venue redemption fight in terms of

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fighting him in the to arena where he suffered that

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loss of joy. So look, it's just it's a very

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good matchup. You got arguably the number two heavyweight in boxing,

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a guy that's on the precipice of fighting for the

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undisputed title. An underdog opponent, but a but a tremendous.

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Speaker 1: We can punch and he can punch, and if he.

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Speaker 4: Wins, he's gonna get the shot, and it sizes up

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like a good matchup. Like I'm down for a good

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heavyweight scrap, all right. I just wish I just wish

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that it was not a sixty dollars pay.

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Speaker 1: So I was coming to that. That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Even in the United States in the middle of the

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afternoon on a college football Saturday, I mean, Rayfield.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of sam the UK, it's like, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, would you want me to say it?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here that you think US fans

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about anything other than a hardcore fan in the middle

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of a Saturday afternoon, big college football Saturday, which is

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immensely popular in this country to drop what you're doing

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in pay fifty nine to ninety five.

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Speaker 4: So a couple things about that, A couple things about that.

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Number one, it's it's it's like, it's such an absurdity.

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I don't even understand it. Because they can set the

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price at whatever they want.

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Speaker 3: That's what I get. They got it. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say I'm gonna sit here and bleed

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for Frank Warren, but I understand from one standpoint they

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have a big nut to cover in what they're paying

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Parker and Wardly for this fight. Okay whatever. In the UK,

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if you buy the pay per view, it's I think

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twenty twenty four pounds or something like that, So it's

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much cheaper obviously if you do the transition between what

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it's worth in American money compared to you know, what

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it is in the UK.

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Speaker 2: This is the truth, it's prime time in the UK,

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and they'll probably do Is it out of line to

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say I think it's not I'm about to say it.

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They'll do ten times the business on pay per view

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in the UK with that price and the fact that

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it's prime time.

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Speaker 3: But we'll never know.

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Speaker 4: We'll never know the real numbers because the ZOE doesn't

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announce them, and neither does the promoter. My educated opinion,

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with my vast and extensive years of covering pay per

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view and understanding it, I think probably better than most people,

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other than people that actually do the events. I'd be

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a little shocked if this fight in the United States

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did more than.

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Speaker 3: Five thousand buys.

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Speaker 4: I think that's when you're putting it find a double paywall.

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You already have to subscribe to the zone, which is

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going to cost you if you buy it for the year,

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it's like two hundred and thirty dollars for the year

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or something like that. Or or you buy a monthly

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and you cannot get this as a one off right now.

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Speaker 2: You gotta subscribe at least for six months or a

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full year subscription to get the chance to buy the

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pay per view, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: I believe you might. There might be a thing where

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if you you can buy the pay per view if

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you give them six months something like that, or you

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get maybe you get like a free month of the

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zone or something along those. The bottom line is it's

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not easy to do. You got to buy. You know,

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if you're a subscriber already, it's going to cost you

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another fifth, you know, fifty nine to ninety five to buy.

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Speaker 1: This are crazy.

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Speaker 4: So but I don't understand is why don't if you know, again,

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Frank Warren and his owne they set the price. There's

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no there's no like pay per view ferry that says

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this should be sixty bucks. They could set it at

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twenty bucks. They could make it now. And I'm not

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going to get down into weeds too much. At one

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point they tried to do fights where it was pay

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per view in whatever territory.

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Speaker 3: It made sense.

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Speaker 4: In this case the UK and another locations, it was

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just part of your regular subscription. As a recent example

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from the last couple of years, for example, when Regis

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Program and Devin Haney had their fight does a Good

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Fight Going in? It turned out that it was a

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pay per view in the United States, but everywhere else

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in the world. It was just part of your regular subscription.

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What the Zone has found is if you open it

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up then other countries, it makes it very easy to

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steal the signal. So therefore they lock it down.

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Speaker 2: And I give you breaking news. I'm not saying that

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I do this. The pay per views are available everywhere anywhere.

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But all the time, I don't know what you're stopping.

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I don't know what you're stopping from that standpoint, So

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just tell you what I got, what you're relaying. Just

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one more time, why not reward the subscribers in the

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United States the care to go and watch this, because

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I'm with you. If you're not going to sell any

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pay per views, what difference does it make if you

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charge thirty nine ninety five, forty nine ninety five or

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ninety nine ninety five if you're not.

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Speaker 4: Here's here's the thing that's coming with the Zone, and

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it's it's been discussed and I know a little bit

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about it. Know what the price is gonna be. It's

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gonna get probably announced after this pay per view is over.

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Because this Joseph Parker wordly pay per view is the

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last of this iteration of pay per view, because going forward,

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the rest of the pay per view is the zone

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is going to offer a different kind of subscription that

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will pay you one price. And I don't know what

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the price point is, but I figure it's going to be,

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you know, a couple hundred three if I don't know

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what the numbers, one hundred of dollars. But the bottom

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line is you'll get every pay per view with a

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minimum amount for the year, sort of like it's like

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a second subscription. So if you I'm making up the numbers,

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so I don't want to hear you know, anybody brushed

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back and me say, well, you lie about the number.

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Speaker 3: I'm making this up.

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Speaker 4: Let's say they say we want five hundred dollars for

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the year, and will you get everything that's on pay

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per view at least then you have some certainty, you know.

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Speaker 2: Me, which again that breaks out to about forty three,

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forty four dollars a month or one.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know how many pay per views it is,

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and I'm making it the stop stop running the moll.

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Speaker 1: Let's give you.

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Speaker 2: Let's give you a reference point just before we move on.

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Like ESPN has started this new direct to con consumer app,

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all right, it is twenty nine to ninety five to

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get everything they offer, and they have now put the

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WWE World Wrestling Entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Top pay per views behind that paywall.

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Speaker 2: So now if you're a WWE fan, you know I've

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got to give them twenty nine to ninety five every

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month that there is a pay perview. You can go

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month to month, I believe, so you can have other

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months where you don't pay them, you cancel, you don't

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pay them, but you at least know that that if

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I give you the twenty nine to ninety five, I

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get everything and the WWE pay perview.

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Speaker 4: So they don't really call them pay per viewers, right don't.

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They're like premium line extra if whatever you want to

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call it. But they haven't been on pay per view

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for the last couple of years. They were on right regular.

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Speaker 2: Now it's now essentially that because they're hoping to get

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a couple one hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, five hundred

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thousand WWE fans to pay it for those core events.

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So back to your premise that if you are saying

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to a boxing fan that for that four hundred dollars

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or whatever, you said, five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Dollars I'm making up the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I understand.

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Speaker 2: I understand that you're gonna get six pay per views

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that normally would have been five hundred or six hundred dollars.

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Then maybe that's worthwhile.

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Speaker 4: Right now, but we don't know, we don't know what.

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Here's the thing though, in WWE, because it's scripted not

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to break anybody's uh, you know, to.

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Speaker 2: Break any news here, it's not real.

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Speaker 4: It's they know that they they know right now today

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that in October of next year whatever, they're gonna have

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a pay per view on such and such a rough

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approximate day. They know every month in boxing, you don't

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know that because fights have to lead up to other fights.

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But the suffice to say this Fabio Wordly is the

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last of the pay per views on his own for

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the time being. That will be strictly a la carte

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that you don't have the option of purchasing the fact.

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So the reason why, by the way, is because it's

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untenable what's going on right now, because besides this Pavia

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Wordly fight, under this current circumstance, if you were you

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know you, the package is going to be available to

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subscribe to and they'll release the detail is probably in

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the coming week or so. You'll still be able to

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buy the events a la carte if you choose to,

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but it wouldn't if you're really that diehard, it would

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make sense. Probably we'll see what the price is to

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just buy the package. And the reason I say that

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is because they have a bunch of other fights they're

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gonna fall into that category November twenty second with the

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big show from Saudi Arabia with you know, a bunch

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of good fights on their yard against Benavides and Hani,

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against Norman, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that card is worth every bit

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of forty nine something like that price that card is,

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even if it is in the middle of the day,

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that card's much better.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that by go ahead.

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Speaker 4: But then there's gonna be other events that perhaps will

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fall into that category. You're talking about the in away

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fight in December, and there are other fights also that

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they are planning to do, and so you'll have that option,

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I guess, to purchase all of that together and we'll

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see if they can go that. Because the number of

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pay per views, especially around the holiday season, is just

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absolutely an absurdity.

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Speaker 2: Well and what and what we're seeing now and we

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didn't mean to get off on this tangent. We're going

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to move on to the other news is the purchase

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of pay per views is dwindling, twinning the many Pacquiao

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pay per view I saw it reported several places basically

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didn't do two hundred thousand pay per view buys in

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the summer.

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Speaker 1: They've kept it all quiet. And if he's not drawing that, yeah,

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and it's trouble, it's trouble by.

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Speaker 4: I forgot the other the third paper besides in a way,

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and November twenty two is on November fifteenth to Connor

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Benbank Junior rematch. So those are three events that theoretically

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are going to be available within that package, and then

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they're all coming over the course of like a month

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and a half.

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Speaker 1: So interesting.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot, So stay tuned on what happens with

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Parker and Wordley and again we'll recap it coming off

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the weekend. All right, other news items, Why don't you

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go ahead and give us a little bit on the

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Danny Garcia knockout of Daniel Rodriguez a one punch ko

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in the fourth round of that fight in Brooklyn last

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Saturday night. We did not do a recap pod, but

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give him a few moments here on Garcia. And it's

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not necessarily goodbye goodbye. It's just farewell to Brooklyn.

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Speaker 4: It could be farewell for good, but it seems like

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there'll be some offers that come his way. Look, this

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was a positioned by Danny and his own promotional company,

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Swift Promotions, as farewell to Brooklyn, as he and I discussed,

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and he discussed with lots of people and the lead

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up to the fight, that it was eighty five percent

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that he would retire. I mean, Danny is thirty seven

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years old, he's got a young family, He's made a

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good amount of money. It's not a financial situation. He's

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trying to build up his promotional company. He has other

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business interests besides that. But he at least he was

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honest about it. He said, you know, you never know.

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You look great, you get the phone call, you feel good.

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I have a feeling that coming off of this particular

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performance where he did score a very impressive fourth round

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knockout against Daniel Gonzalz. Now that's not a top level opponent,

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but Danny looked pretty sharp, you know, took him like

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a round and a half or so to get into

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the groove. And when he put him away, it was

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only fitting that he did so with a big, booming

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left hook on the chin, because the money punch of

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Danny Garcia's career has been the left hook. That is

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how when he opened Barclay Center for boxing back in

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you know, twelve years ago or thirteen years ago. It

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was a left hook that ended Eric Morales's career, sent

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him into retirement when he got the big knockout in

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their rematch, and he went on to have a number

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of his big fights at Barclay Center. He got this victory.

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He's now eight wins and two losses in that building.

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He's synonymous with the history of boxing at Barclay Center.

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And you know, coming off this one, I'm sure he

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feels good about himself. Like I said, he looked good.

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He didn't get any kind of injuries or anything like that.

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So maybe he'll wait for the phone to ring and

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if they meet, they asking price, maybe we'll see him back.

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I mean, listen, it's not like he's a totally shot fighter.

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He could absolutely compete with some of the better guys,

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in my opinion, if he was even a little more

476
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active and you know, you know, being ready for fights.

477
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I think there's no doubt about that now. Is he

478
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what he was ten years ago? Obviously not who of

479
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000
us are. But you didn't look at that version of

480
00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,720
Danny Garcia and say, oh, man, he's slow, or he

481
00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:58,880
gets hit too much, or he's no good anymore. Danny

482
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,720
could definitely still be a good fighter. It's just a

483
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,000
matter of the dedication and if you're going to keep

484
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,400
a regular schedule. And again, I keep in mind that

485
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,680
he was taken on Daniel Gonzalez, who was a former

486
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,319
sparring partner of his that helped him get ready for

487
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,519
the Sean Porter fight back in twenty eighteen. But Daniel

488
00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:17,839
Gonzalez came in good condition and Danny took him apart

489
00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:20,200
with ease, and I know he felt good about getting

490
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,599
that knockout, and so you know, it was good to see.

491
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And I think Danny Garcia had the kind of career

492
00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:25,960
that even if we didn't discuss them because we didn't

493
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,400
do the recap, because that was the only fight that

494
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,039
he deserved a couple of minutes of mention on today's show,

495
00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:33,200
because he's been a credit to boxing. He's fought a

496
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,720
lot of top guys. There was a period of time

497
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where he got criticized for, you know, what was perceived

498
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,640
as the cherry pick kind of fights. But in totality

499
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,240
of his career, he fought a ton of good, top fighters.

500
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And you know he once saw me last. Somebody fought everybody,

501
00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:47,359
and he beat a lot of quality guys too, none

502
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,559
bigger than the big upset against Lucas Matisse and the

503
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,759
great knockout against Amir Kan for unifications purposes.

504
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Speaker 2: All right, and you've said borderline hall of fame discussion

505
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,079
at least about him.

506
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Speaker 3: What do you think about that? I mean, I've heard

507
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,000
a lot.

508
00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: You He's a two division world champ. I'm just big

509
00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:07,200
across the board in sports that we don't have to

510
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,079
put everybody in. So I would kind of judge it,

511
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,599
as with his contemporaries, with other people in his division,

512
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,279
the last twenty thirty forty years, where would you stack him?

513
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: So I would say that to you, would you.

514
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: Stack him in the last twenty or thirty years of welterweights?

515
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,720
Would you stack him in the top five or the

516
00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:27,480
top seven?

517
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,519
Speaker 4: His legacy, Look, he had a good run at welterweight,

518
00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:33,319
not a great run at wealthweight, even though he fought

519
00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:35,640
a lot of top guys at welter where he really

520
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,400
made his case. If you think he's a Hall of Famer,

521
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,359
and I agree with he's borderline, I have to think

522
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,920
about it. A lot of it has to do with

523
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,440
who else is on the ballot, frankly, because they elect

524
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,640
three no matter what. And you know, I've been thinking

525
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,160
about the Hall of Fame a lot because I literally

526
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filled out my ballot literally last night, stuck it in

527
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the envelope, and win in the mail today. So it

528
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makes it back to the Canastota by the deadline of

529
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October thirty first, taking care of mine, I presume.

530
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Speaker 1: That the post office can get it there in a week.

531
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Speaker 4: As long as it's postmarked by the thirty.

532
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:06,559
Speaker 1: First post marked. Okay, we're good.

533
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And just for the to give my own newsletter

534
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,839
a little pops. In the coming weeks, I will do

535
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a column detailing all of my votes.

536
00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: You voted for why exactly.

537
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: So you would make the stronger case a junior welterweight.

538
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:23,559
So in his era, is he a top five junior

539
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:25,200
welterweight the last twenty years?

540
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,079
Speaker 1: In your mind?

541
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,759
Speaker 4: Probably he is, actually because he had a really good run.

542
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:30,480
I mean at that period of time, if you take

543
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,079
a look at his resume and you start when he

544
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,559
when he finally stepped up to fighting like ten, like

545
00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,640
his first I think his first ten round fight, when

546
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,759
he was no longer considered like, well he's still a prospect,

547
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:41,960
but he was now stepping into bigger fights.

548
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: He fought.

549
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,279
Speaker 4: It wasn't his first ten round fight, but it was

550
00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:46,599
his ten rounder. It was like, you know, three or

551
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,799
maybe his third or so scheduled ten, but he was

552
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,400
in with his first so called a real guy, real guy,

553
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:53,960
he thought. Nate Campbell, who was a former unified world

554
00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:58,000
champion as a lightweight but still was decent, was not

555
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,799
totally shot. He beat the you know Holt, who was

556
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,119
a top champion. It was a major puncher who had

557
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,160
been you lost a unification fight against Timothy Bradley. These

558
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,079
are guys he was beating before he ever fought for

559
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,079
the title. A lot of times today you see guys

560
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,279
get title shots. They've never even scored a win the

561
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,720
level of a Nate Campbell win. Danny won against Nate

562
00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:18,319
Cambell and against Kendall Holt and was mandatory and got

563
00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:19,839
the win against Eric Morousse. But if you take a

564
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,720
look at Danny's record from twenty eleven with the Kenda

565
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,079
Holt fight and the Nate Campbell fight, and you go

566
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,599
all the way to the point where he moved up

567
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,799
to the welterweight division, which was not until twenty fifteen,

568
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:32,920
that was a pretty damn good run in about five

569
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,200
years there where he was the class of the division.

570
00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:38,759
He was the actual champion, the lineal champion, He had

571
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:41,519
unified titles, he had made a number of defenses, and

572
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:44,000
most of the fights were against good fighters. The one

573
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,640
thing that works against him is a lot of people

574
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,559
thought that he got a little bit of a gift

575
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,079
when he fought Mauricio Herrera in that title defense that

576
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,400
took place in twenty fourteen. But there's plenty of great

577
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,680
fighters who are in the Hall of Fame that have

578
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440
a controversial win on the record, right, That's not I

579
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,799
went disqualifying from the Hall of just because of that

580
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:05,000
particular fight. And then even as a walterweit they weren't

581
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,920
mega wins. But he beat like Malinaji, he beat Robert Guerrero,

582
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,240
who was a good fighter for the title at the

583
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,519
WBC to win that belt. He would go on and

584
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,440
lose a very close fight. You can certainly argue he

585
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,880
won the fight against Keith Thurman. That was a very

586
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,079
big deal. That was a unification fight, that was a

587
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,799
mega fight the in terms of the Barclay Center's history

588
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,480
in boxing. He had another close fight against Sean Porter.

589
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:31,039
He beat Brandon Rios. He suffered the loss to Errolspence.

590
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,039
That was pretty much the one that was like a

591
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,279
very clear cut kind of loss in that kind of

592
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,480
marked the end as far as the regular activity, because

593
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,519
since that fight at the end of twenty twenty, you know,

594
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,000
he's only had three fights, right, the Benavides fight at

595
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,799
fifty four, the ill conceived middleweight fight against Arizloni Lara

596
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:49,640
where he got stopped, and then the fight that took

597
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,559
place the other night against Gonzales.

598
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: So, to make a.

599
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: Long story short, I'd have to think about it. I

600
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,599
have to see what else he's competing with on the ballot,

601
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680
but I would say he's absolutely in the conversation to

602
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,359
be a Hall of Famer.

603
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: Good enough on that, all right, we got a bevy

604
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,480
of heavyweight updates. Let's start with Alexander Usik, the undisputed champion.

605
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:10,319
While he keeps his eyes on the Parker Wardly main event.

606
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,799
He is claiming to be back training. He's put some

607
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,680
stuff out there on social media that he will continue

608
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,240
to fight on.

609
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,799
Speaker 1: We wondered, not surprising.

610
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: How long he continues to fight on remains to be seen.

611
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,519
Speaker 1: All right, give us some more on this.

612
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:30,079
Speaker 4: So on his own website, he gave some quotes in

613
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,200
a piece that's on his website called Ready to Fight,

614
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,440
which is Usik's own site, where he said that you know,

615
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:39,119
after dealing with I would even call it a back injury.

616
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,000
I guess it was more because the way his team

617
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,039
described that post the Dubois fight was a back issue

618
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,519
that would prevent him from being ready immediately to do

619
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:51,359
the mandatory that he was supposed to do against Joseph Parker,

620
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,359
which is why Parker has taken this fight against Fabio

621
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,319
Wardley and the WBO allowed him to have the extension

622
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,920
of when the mandatory was due. But he said he's

623
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,240
back in light training. He's not like sparring, I guess,

624
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,599
but he's training again. He said he plans to fight

625
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119
in twenty twenty six, which is good news for boxing

626
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,440
fans and more notably, at age thirty eight, he said

627
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,960
he was going to fight till he's forty one, three

628
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,319
more years, so it feels like he's got more fights

629
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:15,880
than his in his future.

630
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: Change your mind.

631
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: I will believe that when.

632
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: When I see it, But stay tuned. Yeah, I mean

633
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,640
in twenty twenty six, that's a start. But to be

634
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,720
still fighting in twenty twenty eight, well.

635
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: I mean obviously, losses and wins, you know that that

636
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,119
helps make your decision and how you perform, and you

637
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,039
know injuries in those things. But the bottom line is

638
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,839
Usik is saying publicly, I'm back and I'm going to

639
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,119
defend the heavyweight championship.

640
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,519
Speaker 3: So I have to.

641
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 4: Believe that that the that there will be money available

642
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,599
to make a significant fight against the winner of Parker,

643
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,079
and wardly, I do think there's probably more money if

644
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:50,200
this happens to be Parker, just because he's a bigger,

645
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:54,400
better known name in terms of world boxing. But that's good.

646
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,400
So he ill he is taking the rest of the

647
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,839
year off in terms of actual fights. Will he'll still train,

648
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,559
I guess, and hopefully we will see him back at

649
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:05,119
some point in the beginning part of twenty twenty six.

650
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,279
Now he doesn't, He says he doesn't really care about

651
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,839
having another Fury fights, So I don't think we're seeing that.

652
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: All right, So let's get into that because Fury is

653
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,319
apparently reiterating that he is retired, which I don't believe.

654
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,319
Tell tell me more about what he said and where

655
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:21,039
he said it.

656
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Since you both you.

657
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

658
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,799
Speaker 4: I mean you and I have agreed with you. Know,

659
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:26,400
we don't agree on everything, but one thing we've been

660
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,440
steadfast on is that Fury, whatever he happens to say

661
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,079
on a given day, probably will fight it. But there

662
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,400
does come a time where guys do retire. He is

663
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,039
thirty seven, he has had two losses in a row,

664
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,200
and brutally tough fights where he took a lot of

665
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,039
damage against Alexander Usik, and he has said ever since

666
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:47,400
then he's retired. Now, in previous retirements, it's been like

667
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,240
a couple of months, it's been maybe like a couple

668
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,480
of days or whatever, you know, and he's changes to it.

669
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,759
But he is now doing some interviews and he's saying

670
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:57,119
once again, he's reiterating that he's done. So you know, again,

671
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,279
I'm not going to see her and tell you I

672
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:00,160
necessarily believe him. But for what it's worth. In the

673
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,000
last few days, he was on a YouTube channel called

674
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,920
Faros TV, where he gave some of his most pointed

675
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,119
quotes that I can think of. He says, there's no

676
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,160
actual reason for me to go back in a boxing ring.

677
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,920
He says, I'm thirty seven years old. I've been punched

678
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,400
for the past twenty five years. What do I want

679
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,599
to go back to boxing for? And he's not gonna

680
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,519
probably get a third fight with Usik. I don't think

681
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,519
there's any kind of real DEMI. There were great fights,

682
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,920
and all credit to both guys were giving us great battles,

683
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,279
but they were close. But Usik won both fights and

684
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,400
it wasn't like they were super controversial. Even scored a

685
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,519
knockdown in one of those fights.

686
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: So and Fury didn't win a fight in between the

687
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,039
two and has to fall out since then against anybody

688
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,640
to make you think, okay, there needs to be a

689
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,599
third Usik fight at this stage.

690
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,599
Speaker 4: So so and then the other thing he said, And

691
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,359
you know, Tyson here has always been about the money.

692
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,519
So when he stucks saying it's not about the money,

693
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:50,440
you know, it's always about the money. But again, I'm

694
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,079
just giving you the quote he said he wouldn't even

695
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,559
come back for a billion dollars. I mean, obviously that's

696
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:55,240
probably not.

697
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,759
Speaker 2: True, like Austin Powers won bill exactly. But here, here's

698
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,000
the other thing. In the last three three years here

699
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,720
with the Wilder, well actually four years, going back to

700
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:07,359
the Wilder third fight, and now these two Usik fights,

701
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:09,480
you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars that he

702
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:10,160
ended up making.

703
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,799
Speaker 3: He has made Gargantu.

704
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: So it's not money motivated. He's got a family, he's

705
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,240
got a ton of kids. What is it six or seven.

706
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,559
Speaker 3: Kids, I think it's eight or something.

707
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: So at some point.

708
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: You do move on with life goes on, and he

709
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,920
could be a commentator by the way as well, and

710
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,200
would be very entertaining at that.

711
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: Well, it's like he talks about, like at one point

712
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,960
you're motivated by titles and you're motivated by money. He's

713
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,240
won all the titles, right at one point or another.

714
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,960
He's been to the Lionneal Champions, won other belts, and

715
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,279
he's as you said, he's made justin forget about his

716
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:43,759
whole career as a totality, just in the last you know,

717
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,240
let's say the four years, let's say the Wilder trilogy

718
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,400
to the present, he's made I would say got to

719
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,319
be alwayst two hundred and fifty million dollars.

720
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,279
Speaker 3: Yes, probably more.

721
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Because the two fights with Usik alone were over one

722
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:59,200
hundred million total. Now even closer to one hundred and

723
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,079
fifty million to Saldi money that was involved.

724
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: If he decides to stay retired, look good for him.

725
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: So that leads us to what's behind door number three

726
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,759
Anthony Joshua And because we've always wondered is that fight

727
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,960
going to happen? Is it gonna get on the front

728
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,519
burner of a stove? What's the latest with Door number

729
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:18,680
three and Joshua.

730
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,039
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, if the Joshua Fury fight never happens,

731
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,839
shame on everybody involved. That is just disgusting that they

732
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,160
will never have faced each other. But the reality is,

733
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,079
even if they do face each other, and I personally

734
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,799
would still like to see it, but it's still never

735
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,319
It's similar to the Joshua and Wilder fight. It's never

736
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:39,160
gonna be what it should have been. Right, Joshua Wilder

737
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200
a few years ago should have been for the undisputed title.

738
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:44,680
Joshua against Wilder should have I guess they at one

739
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,240
point did they have all the belts together? I think

740
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
they probably did, But either way, they were the new.

741
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: Biggest and Joshua and Wilder had all the belts together.

742
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,319
Speaker 3: That's no I'm saying.

743
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,759
Speaker 4: Was there a time when Joshua and Fury had all

744
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:57,599
the belts together at the very least millennial?

745
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Yes?

746
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: Is that before josh I guess right, When Joshua fought

747
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Usick the first time, he had three of the belts

748
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,119
and Fury had already beaten uh Wilder in the first

749
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,559
fight before they fought the second fight.

750
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,319
Speaker 3: The first fight was a drug well the.

751
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,119
Speaker 2: Second fight where where Fury won the WBC title. Correct,

752
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Joshua fought Usik the following August of twenty twenty one

753
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:24,960
before Fury and Wilder fought.

754
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,119
Speaker 4: And the point, the main point though, is that that

755
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,440
fight should have been for, you know, the the mega

756
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:33,559
mega mega fight of the of the of the era,

757
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,359
and it didn't happen. They could still maybe do it,

758
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,720
but both guys are clearly past their best. Look like

759
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,400
you said, one guy's thirty seven, Anthony. Joshua' getting any

760
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,720
younger either, you know, he's getting up there in his thirties.

761
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:49,079
Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua, who's probably easily made half a billion dollars.

762
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: How if I say easily, but it's probably yeah, sure.

763
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,839
Speaker 2: So he's not money motivated. And plus he's off an

764
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,079
injury too. He's off an elbow injury and hasn't fought

765
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:00,000
since having elbows.

766
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,319
Speaker 4: The bottom line update is here he says he's still

767
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,119
retired and Joshua. The fight that most people would want

768
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:06,799
to see in the heavyweight division, if those two guys are

769
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:10,079
going to fight, is coming back. And look, Eddie hern

770
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,799
is out there every day saying this that the other.

771
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,440
At one point earlier in the month, he was talking

772
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,279
about how he might be able to squeez him in

773
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,599
December that you know, without fans there.

774
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,759
Speaker 3: Maybe he went on a short notice.

775
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,799
Speaker 4: He put him on he is undercard in Stockton, California,

776
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480
just to get him back in the ring or some

777
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,799
other small show. I mean, I never believed that that

778
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,480
was never.

779
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: He was gonna have Joshua potentially fight on the bill,

780
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,519
not as the main event in Stockton, California, if.

781
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: Joshua wanted to do it, believe if Joshua wanted to

782
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,920
do that. But but the most recent comments that Eddie

783
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640
has made to different media outlets is that that he's

784
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,160
not going to fight the rest of this year. So

785
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240
it will mark the first time in Anthony Joshua's professional

786
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:49,079
career that'll go an entire calendar year without having had

787
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,599
a doubt because his last fight was since September of

788
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,200
last year when he got knocked out by did what.

789
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: Do you believe there's a possibility we've seen the last

790
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,480
of Anthony Joshua because.

791
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,279
Speaker 1: Against body somewhere.

792
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: They're making plans to go in probably February. As Eddie

793
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:08,400
talked about in some of the recent comments he made

794
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,880
just this week, there's very big interest to bring him

795
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,880
to Africa to do a fight, which if there's money

796
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,199
there and they can obviously probably get away with a

797
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,960
lesser type opponent there, that that would be a way

798
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,679
for Anthony to do something he's want to do, which

799
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,679
is to fight in Africa. Nigeria is where his heritage

800
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,599
is from, where his family is from. Uh there's also

801
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,960
a burgeoning scene in Ghana. You never know where they're

802
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,480
going to bring him. But the point is that would

803
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,079
be allowed, that would allow him to get back in

804
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,199
the ring in a main event type situation, but not

805
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719
against a big name a little less pressure maybe because

806
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,119
you're not you know, fighting in a title fighter in

807
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:44,280
front of ninety thousand people or whatever. And then after

808
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,119
that maybe Fury will want to come out of retirement,

809
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,559
maybe Deontay Wilder and then can still get the fight together.

810
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,159
But whether he fights eventually, Fury or Wilder, both fights

811
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,400
are are just about it there, you know, expired.

812
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,519
Speaker 2: Shelf live for Selby as well.

813
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: The wild fight more so than the Fury fight.

814
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: Yes, especially after what Jang did to Wilder almost two

815
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,960
years what year and a half ago now, But then again,

816
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,079
look at what Duba did to Anthony Joshua.

817
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,079
Speaker 4: So the the I mean all due respect to Usk

818
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,880
because he's only been in the division for a couple

819
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400
of years, a few years, but for a longer period,

820
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:23,719
much longer period of time. The era was defined by Wilder,

821
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,039
Fury and Joshua, and all three of them are basically

822
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:28,559
on their.

823
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,519
Speaker 1: In their late thirties, right, and it's it's basically.

824
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, Deontay Wilder just this week

825
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,559
turned forty.

826
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

827
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,639
Speaker 2: All right, so there's the heavyweight landscape you've been mentioning

828
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:41,639
matt Room boxing. There's news about them winning a purse

829
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,639
bid of significance from this week fire away.

830
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: So last week they had postponed because both sides that

831
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,159
requested it. The postponement of the purse bid that was

832
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:54,800
supposed to be between the IBF lightweight Champion, which is

833
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,320
Raymond Maritaya who was promoted by Top Rank, and the

834
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,480
mandatory challenger, uh the Olympic Champion Andy Cruz, who is

835
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,599
promoted by matrom Boxing. The purse bit took place on Thursday,

836
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,840
and I'm not surprised frankly that Matroom Boxing won the

837
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,000
purse bid. They did eight hundred and eighty eight, eight

838
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:13,960
hundred eighty eight thousand, eight hundred eighty eight dollars to

839
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,039
win the perse s bid. Somebody likes the lucky eights.

840
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I guess, did we do the eight ball? Did we

841
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,360
do the eights?

842
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,599
Speaker 4: That's what the number was, and they easily out distanced

843
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,920
the second bidder, which was the only other bidder, which

844
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960
was Murtius Promoter Top Rank, which bid five hundred and

845
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,280
fifty thousand dollars. Matchroom has had a long history of

846
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,679
losing purse bids. The fact that they won this person

847
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,519
even as the challenger, meaning they have to give up

848
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:40,159
sixty five percent of the winning bid. The reality is

849
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:44,000
Top Rank doesn't have a platform that's helping subsidize their fights.

850
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,400
The Zone subsidizes the matchroom fights, so that will probably

851
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,800
become a main event. You know, they have ninety days

852
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,559
to do the fight, which means sometime, you know, in

853
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,360
the beginning of next year. The fight will take place.

854
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,440
Assuming that Murtia accepts the bout, which I'm sure he will,

855
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,280
it's going to be his career ibayday. If you do

856
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,400
the math on the split, it's five one hundred and

857
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,280
seventy seven thousand and change for Murtaia, it's three hundred

858
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,360
and eleven thousand dollars in change for Andy Krue's career

859
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,800
highs for both guys. I'm sure, I know for a

860
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,400
fact it's the Murataia high, and I'm be willing to

861
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,079
bet anything it's the high for Andy Krus as well.

862
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no doubt.

863
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: So he's not been he's not been making three hundred

864
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,239
grand for these undercard fights to start his career.

865
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: So so that will be a fight that they do,

866
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:26,599
and it's a tough fight for both guys. I mean,

867
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:30,079
Bartaya is a very strong, sturdy guy with pretty good power,

868
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,280
but Andy krus has got that brilliant amateur background with

869
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,599
the you know, the Olympic gold medal and all the

870
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:36,840
other accolades, and he's looked good as a professional, even

871
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,679
though he only has six professional fights. But he's on

872
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,480
the fast track at age thirty because time was a

873
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:44,119
wasting and and you know, he didn't need a ton

874
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,639
of fights. He was lomachenko Ish hoosick ish in the

875
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,079
sense that he didn't need a ton of fights to

876
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:51,320
be prepared for the biggest fights out there. And so

877
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,960
that shapes up at least as an intriguing fight for

878
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,440
the early part of next year, and it will take

879
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,480
place on a Mattroom card on his own and uh,

880
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,920
you know, Top Rank still doesn't have anything set up,

881
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,159
so it's not a surprise that they lost the purse

882
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:04,599
bet at all.

883
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:09,039
Speaker 2: To me, a couple of more items under my category

884
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,000
of these guys are never retired. Kell Brook is now

885
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,280
going to come out of a four year retirement in February,

886
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360
but for a special reason, as it relates to the

887
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,239
late Ricky Hatton.

888
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Right.

889
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Kell and Rooky were buddies, and I'm sure

890
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:26,880
Kel's been thinking about unretiring and when he retired. If

891
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,719
you go back, you have to remember when he retired,

892
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,079
it was coming off of a knockout victory in his

893
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,880
you know, long awaited rivalry fight against Amir Khan. They had,

894
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:36,880
you know, had so many words with each other and

895
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,440
had been linked together to a fight forever for a

896
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,199
million reasons. It didn't happen both sides, so blame that

897
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,239
one time or another. But they finally did fight in

898
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,800
February of twenty twenty two, and kell Brook won that

899
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,199
fight by a six round knockout, and then both of

900
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,079
them retired after the fight. But Brooke was retiring off

901
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:57,400
of a knockout victory. So the fact that he's found

902
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,639
a motivation or a reason to come out of retirement

903
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,599
is not a so he says. And this was announced

904
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,280
on their social media platforms. The outfit that's going to

905
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,559
do this fight in February that's going to take place

906
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,599
in Dubai. He's doing it as a tribute to his

907
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,039
good friend Ricky Hatten, of course, who just recently passed away.

908
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,719
And so he's gonna fight the same opponent that remember,

909
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,280
Ricky was gonna end the thirteen year retirement. Kel's coming

910
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,440
out of a four year retirement. He was supposed to

911
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,719
fight a Dubai fighter named asa Al Dah who was

912
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,960
a forty six year old with a very pedestrian eight

913
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,159
and three record. I'm not sure what the magic is there,

914
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,639
other than that he's from Dubai. But obviously that fight

915
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,800
between him Manhattan was canceled when when Ricky passed, and

916
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,360
so now kel Brook is gonna fight him instead and

917
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,400
do it in February rather than December, and he's gonna

918
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,800
come out of retirement. Whether it's going to be for

919
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,800
the longer term, who knows. Kell Brook is thirty nine

920
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,559
years old. I was now he had got the forty.

921
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,320
He's forty one and three with twenty eight knockouts. I'm sure,

922
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,760
like I said, he, I'm sure he felt good coming

923
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,840
off to win against a mir khan. But if it's

924
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,159
a one and done and it's just as a reason

925
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,400
to honor his friend, where they're gonna do a big

926
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,679
you know, at this event, they're gonna do a tribute

927
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:07,239
to Ricky. Apparently they're gonna raise money to support his

928
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,239
newly created foundation that his family created in the wake

929
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,559
of his his passing. I guess that's not necessarily a

930
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:13,920
bad thing.

931
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: All right, one more item you mentioned about Top Rank

932
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,039
not getting the purse bid for the Murthaia fight. They

933
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,400
still are trying to figure out if they can figure

934
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,599
out where they're gonna land with at least a consistent

935
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:32,440
broadcast partner. They they now will utilize their fast channel,

936
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,760
and you're gonna explain what that is for the Mikayla

937
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,679
mayor Mary Spencer fight, what if, what is the date

938
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,599
on this and then explain a little more about where

939
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:41,320
the fight will air.

940
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: So, Michayla Mayor, who was the graining WBA Welterweight Women's champion,

941
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:51,280
was hoping to get a unification for undisputed against Lauren Price.

942
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,400
They could never get the fight together and so I

943
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,039
don't know, like a month ago whenever, it was announced

944
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:57,119
six weeks ago that she was going to go up

945
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,199
to junior middlew and she was going to challenge Mary

946
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,519
Spencer from mon Treal for her WBA Women's Jugger middleweight title.

947
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,599
The fighters was announced this like I said, it was

948
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,320
now in a while back. It's going to take place

949
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,280
in the Montreal because you know it's on October thirtieth,

950
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so next weekend. But at that point, like the situation

951
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,800
has been with some of the events that Top Rank

952
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,960
has had fighters on, they didn't have a platform to

953
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,639
do it like they did the In a Way fight

954
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,639
on their own Facebook page for example. And so the

955
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,360
question I had had, and I'm sure I'm not the

956
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,840
only one, is if Mayor is going to be involved

957
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,440
in a world title fight, well, where's it going to

958
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,920
be in America? Remember this is actually an Eye of

959
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,000
the Tiger card. And when I had the Tiger would

960
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,199
do events while Top Rank was with ESPN, all of

961
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,920
their events would be streamed, uh with their own production,

962
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,119
but on ESPN Plus, so we had access to all

963
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,119
of their shows. This is one of those kinds of shows.

964
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,239
It just so happens that Michale is in the main

965
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,840
event against the Canadian champion. So Top Rank announced this

966
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,199
week that they're going to do it on their fast

967
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,599
channels fash channels, which I had to get an education

968
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,960
on because I'm not that knowledgeable about what that was.

969
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:00,760
I've heard of it, seen it a little bit, but

970
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,280
I wasn't really sure exactly what the story was. So

971
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,199
if you go on you have a smart TV and

972
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,519
you can access a variety of platforms to be Pluto, Roku,

973
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,239
different and there's all. There's also Visio I think is

974
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,519
another one or something like that. Top rank has on

975
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,440
the fast stands for free ads supported.

976
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,039
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, free, that's what.

977
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 2: That's what these channels are free v to B the

978
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,000
Pluto but the fast the word the free channel. I

979
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,599
don't know what is right, but.

980
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 4: The bottom line is on those platforms that you mentioned

981
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,519
to be and Pluto and the others, like lots of things.

982
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,400
Top Rank has what's called the Top Rank Classics. So

983
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,320
I checked this out the other day, Like I popped

984
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,480
on to to Pluto, which I signed up fore. It's free,

985
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,679
and they have a channel that like literally like twenty

986
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,840
four hours a day runs Top Rank Classics. So I

987
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,280
popped on it. I were showing them like I'm Miguel

988
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,320
Koto Fight. You might pop on some other time, you

989
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,639
might see like a Erberto Durand fight whatever. It's got

990
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:08,400
all kinds of access and material from the Top rank library.

991
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:13,679
So instead of showing on the thirtieth of October just

992
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,880
another random top rank classics, you know, instead of popping

993
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,400
on and seeing like Manny Paca against Timothy Bradley or whatever.

994
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,400
If you go on at the appointed time, they'll have

995
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,320
the live card, which will be Michaela against Spencer in

996
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,920
the main event. Plus they have the undercard fights that

997
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,880
feature some of the good prospects and up and coming

998
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,599
contenders that are with I the Tiger, And so it

999
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:35,360
may not be ideal, it may not be perfect, but

1000
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,599
again it's free and if you have a smart TV

1001
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,079
you can watch it, so you don't have to buy

1002
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:42,079
a subscription. So I felt like that's that's a that's

1003
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:46,760
a pretty good substitute even though they don't have their platform.

1004
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,000
And so that's how you can watch the fight. So

1005
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,880
they're they're they're making do as they scuffle along before

1006
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,840
hopefully they figure out what the heck they're gonna do.

1007
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,639
Speaker 2: All right, there you go with that. And again that's

1008
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:00,760
coming next week. Just so we clarify, that's coming next

1009
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,000
October day, right, Okay, thirtieth is it Thursday? Thursday is

1010
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,360
the thirtieth and Halloween is Friday. Brother, get ready with

1011
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,639
the candy, Get ready with the candy with the kids

1012
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,480
in the neighborhood. That's coming next week.

1013
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,559
Speaker 4: Well, I ask you a question, what's your what's your

1014
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:14,519
Halloween candy choice?

1015
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: And the reason that's usually something we do next week

1016
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,440
we got to something we brought up Halloween.

1017
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: My wife just bought some candy that will be the answer.

1018
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Is assorted in my household because we have the little

1019
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,440
bite size.

1020
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: Like Snickers, but you are chocolate.

1021
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, chocolate based, Yeah, not necessarily you know, Skittles or

1022
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,199
the Smarties or any of that.

1023
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,679
Speaker 4: I think my wife's got. She got some that are

1024
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,559
like kit Cat related and others that were sour Patch

1025
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:38,159
kid related.

1026
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,039
Speaker 2: What we have now learned is it is scaled back

1027
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:43,400
some in our neighborhood and we're no longer buying like

1028
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,400
the five pound bag.

1029
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, we don't need to buy that because.

1030
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,039
Speaker 2: Then it's left over and I'm the only one that

1031
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:51,320
eats candy in my house, so it.

1032
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,119
Speaker 4: Goes to my wife's office. I think something, I don't.

1033
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,519
Speaker 1: Take it to an office, so it's got to get

1034
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:56,159
out of the house.

1035
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 4: We definitely bought a lot less this year because I

1036
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,280
live on a cul de sac and we got to

1037
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,119
throw the kids in our neighborhood and we do get

1038
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:05,679
some kids. But last year, and because my son who's

1039
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:08,760
still young enough, he was out uh trick or treating

1040
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,719
with my wife and friends, I was on door duty

1041
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:14,719
in the house and and you know, sometimes we would

1042
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,320
get tons of kids. Last year, I mean we might

1043
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,519
have gotten twenty five kids maybe at the most.

1044
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: Which is so you got the leftover.

1045
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,079
Speaker 2: And then young Rayfield comes back with all of his candy,

1046
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:24,400
but you're not gonna let him eat and you got

1047
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,039
to either eat that or dispose of it, get rid

1048
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:26,239
of it.

1049
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 3: So I said, some of it you got to keep.

1050
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: Some have a couple of pieces on the night, you know,

1051
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,239
of Halloween, and and then a few things that that

1052
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,039
we decided to keep, and then the rest of it

1053
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:36,840
got shipped out to my wife's office.

1054
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,119
Speaker 3: All right, these are the important things.

1055
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the big things for Halloween. For next week,

1056
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,880
we've got this Parker wordly fight again. It's Saturday afternoon

1057
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,360
US time. Good luck getting the US audience to pay

1058
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,039
attention if they can. Again, you can obviously see it

1059
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,719
a later social media YouTube. All of that whenever you like,

1060
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,760
you and I will come off the weekend and recap

1061
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,400
whatever it happens. And again, a real risk for Joseph Parker,

1062
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,880
as we've laid out over and over again, he could

1063
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,280
sit tight and be the WBO champion potentially and or

1064
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,239
get the shot with USAK. He'll risk it against Wardley.

1065
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,320
Let's see if it pays off for him. It's a

1066
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,800
big moment for Wardly two to jump his place in

1067
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480
the WBO lineage to maybe.

1068
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,519
Speaker 1: Get a title shot. Let's see what happens there.

1069
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: Let's you and I recap it off the weekend and

1070
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,960
get ready to head into the final week of October.

1071
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:27,039
Speaker 1: Other than that, are we good?

1072
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,079
Speaker 3: We are, sir.

1073
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for finding us however you've done so, social media, link, etc.

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Final Subscribe Apple, Spreaker, Spotify for Dan Rayphael. I am

1075
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merely TJ Reeves. This is the Big Fight Weekend Preview

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