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Speaker 1: What is up, Fellows?

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Speaker 2: It goes, I ammana Valley coming at you with my certified,

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fantabulous and wanted only co host, mister Rand Hughes Warriors Wolves.

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The matchup is set, Golden State survives against Houston quick

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post on course to win Big Conference finals.

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Speaker 3: That WVP.

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Speaker 4: At this rate, I would argue.

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Speaker 2: Well, Grant, we're gonna go through everyone who's new here

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tactical narratives, X factors and predictions.

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Speaker 4: Tactically speaking, what are you looking at in this series?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: So, for you guess what? They both involve Anthony Edwards?

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How about that?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm just just some guy, some some face of

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some league. So for the for I guess this is

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the Warriors tactical thing. I'm not sure how to frame

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it exactly because it involves Everard. But just at the

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point of attack, do we think Edwards gets the steph matchup?

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Speaker 4: And what is that?

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Speaker 3: And if so, because you wouldn't use Conley, I don't

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think you might use You might use McDaniels, and that

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leaves Edwards on Butler like so, but let's say Edwards gets.

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Speaker 1: The Steff matchup? Can you then pull go Bear into

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some screening actions? Get some switches that way, Uh.

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Speaker 3: Can can you you know, if you get doubles and traps?

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Can can the role man the outlet guy kind of

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be more consistent then than we saw it? Like we've

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seen the the Rockets are kind of an interesting like

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I don't know, preparation I guess for for facing the

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Wolves in some ways, So I guess I guess Really

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it comes down to, is Edwards the point of attack?

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So is he like you're am and Thompson type And

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then can he take Curry out of the game in

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the same way? And then if not, do do you

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as the Warriors have the ability to get go Bear

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involved so you can get into your four on three

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stuff and then will that go you know, it's like

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a trickle down thing. Then will that go better consistently

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than it did against the Rockets? So that's like three

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tactical things, but they're all kind of of a piece.

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Speaker 2: What what would you do if you were Chris Finch?

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Because the way I was looking at it was just

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and I think now having Jimmy Butler, because Jade McDaniels

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gets the Steph assignment during the regular season, he guarded

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the more than anyone else in Minnesota. I think you

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actually spent more time guarding Steph than anyone.

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Speaker 4: In the league.

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Speaker 3: But do you think Edwards, like, is Edward's in the

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mode now where it's like because the way he guarded

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Lebron and the way you know, it's like I got him.

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Speaker 2: But I also kind of thought, because Jimmy Butler's on

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this team now, does Edwards in kind of like that

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sturdier frame make more sense to.

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Speaker 4: Go up against him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going to have in theory, or at

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least like Steph's gonna run around more like through more

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screens away from the ball. You'd rather have Jade McDaniels.

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The issue what's interesting they are though, is that if

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you're the Wolves and you put Edwards on Steph or

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let's Jayden on Steph, now, it's just that makes it

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easier for Steph to stay on Jayden at the other end,

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Anthony Edwards, and you run into some cross matches where

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Steph is on on Edwards, then you don't even need

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to worry about setting screens at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I there's like there's a three tiered thing.

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I think I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I got really caught up in the idea of like

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I think Edwards is just here for it in the

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postseason and he's gonna he's gonna say I want Steph.

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I mean, he'll be on him at some point. You're

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probably right based on the regular season, and just like

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how much of a pain McDaniel's length can be on

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someone like Steph. I just I don't know, just after

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that Rocket series, seeing how hard a defender like Thompson

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can make things on Curry, that that is just where

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the analysis has to start. Because I think the Warriors

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are gonna be like good defensively. It's always gonna come

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back to like how do they get Steph loose? And

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then how do they score if they can't do that?

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Speaker 2: This is I think I actually might have asked this

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question when it was Warriors Rockets. And I have the

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same question against Minnesota, especially after watching that Lakers Wolves series.

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Who forces who to adapt more with their lineup structure?

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And by that, I don't even know if the Warriors

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could like adjust to account for Minnesota's size, But just

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sort of looking at we saw Rudy Gobert in a

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couple of those Lakers games. He wasn't closing not I

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want to make clear there's nothing to do with defense.

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teams are going to go smaller. We also saw the

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value though, of what he can do if he's catching passes,

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if he's really crashing the glass, what he can do

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against smaller teams, And so how does like I'm looking

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I guess I'm looking at this from Golden State's perspective

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more than anything, because I think Minnesota will default to, Okay,

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it's cool that we can pull the nas red ripcord

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and use him with Julius Randall and like maybe feel

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more comfortable switching and hopefully we create more offensive advantages

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if we want. But you stick with the generational defender,

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who is still a generational defender until you prove that

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you can't.

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Speaker 4: If you're the.

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Speaker 2: Warriors, how do you approach like the Timberwolves size or

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the Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 4: Of it all?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's not.

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Speaker 3: It is different than the Rocket series in some ways,

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like specifically, but the Warriors will be at a size

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and athleticism disadvantage, So that's that's the same. So they got,

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you know, a bunch of games of preparation to kind

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of to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: I would also say that historically, like steph.

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Speaker 3: Has had pretty you know, little issue with Gobert, if

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you can, if you can engineer some switches, I would

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say that, like the presence of Ant and McDaniels, and

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you can just still have length and size between Randall

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and Naseried and other stuff on the back line, Like,

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it's gonna be a legit challenge to score even if

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you can, you know, get the kind of matchups that

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Speaker 1: I do think it's just a lot of it.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna come down to and this will step on

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some things, but whatever, like Pajemski is gonna have to

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take advantage of defenses shaded away from him and or

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having less threatening defenders on him, because I do think

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really the size and athleticism and length of Minnesota is

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gonna make it hard for the Warriors to get offense

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from the sources they want to get it from. And

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that really was the case against Houston too. So the

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fact that the Warriors are here suggests they can figure

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that out and they can defend well enough to you know,

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to make it work even when they don't quite figure

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it out. But it is gonna come down. I think

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Pajemski is just looming as someone that's gonna have to

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have a phenomenal series offensively.

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Speaker 2: The other question is, so with Andrew Wiggins gone, and

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I am assuming the answers GP too, like, well, who's

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getting the Edwards assignment?

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Speaker 3: You know this might be as so Moody hasn't been

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starting because Buddy heal, they've needed the shooting.

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Speaker 1: I think you're still gonna need the Buddy.

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Speaker 4: Hill that was that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean he's trying, but he'll tries. He

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just doesn't do do smart things all that oftense.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the Steve Kurr announcement they were head

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I was like, I never thought we'd be reading this sentence,

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but like Buddy and then Jimmy wouldn't name him, and

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it's like number seven, Uh, really brought the defense.

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Speaker 3: Over the Jimmy Buddy media comment dynamic is fantastic and

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I'm here far and I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think it might be Moody.

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Speaker 3: I think you could see Moody back into a bigger

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role and that may change if he continues to not

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be reliable as a source of offense, and or if

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Buddy and or if Number seven just continues to defend well,

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but like you're never gonna have Buddy on on. I

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think GP two will get a lot of minutes. I

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think Butler might get some minutes if he if he

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can move with with the hip injury, like he could

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move just behind Moody's gonna see a lot, don't you

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think it's gonna I mean, like, I think that's who

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the Warriors have tended to use against players like Edwards

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a lot because GPTWO just can't play, you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: It's just not that's never something he's been able to do.

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Speaker 2: No, So I guess they'll just throw a bunch of

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different stuff at or. You can see some Geese antos

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maybe on a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see some Draymond. I mean like that that

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might be what it comes to.

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Speaker 4: Well, how do you want to use Draymond in this series? Ideally?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a great man. There's so many wrinkles

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Speaker 3: If you put him on go Beart, I think he

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short circuits a lot of the screening role because you

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can switch that and you don't really care if you've

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got someone small on Gobart offensively, if you can get

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away with it for a while, But don't you kind

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of need him to guard Randall unless that's Butler, Like

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just because Randall's is just gonna bowl over if you

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have pajem Ski on him or Steph on him or

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Moody on him, like that just leaves doesn't leave a

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lot of options.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like I didn't consider Jimmy Butler maybe enough

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for the Anthey Edwards assignment for that specific reason because

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I thought that they would want like I thought that

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they would want him for Randall so that you can

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still use Draymond on Rudy, which you know, during the

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regular season, I think he only played twice against that

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Draymond only played twice against the Wolves, and that's kind

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of what we saw. But this team is different now,

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So I think I'm with you that I want to

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find a way to keep him on Go Bear. Although

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with Jimmy Butler, Julius Randalds had.

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Speaker 4: A really good playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he will put you even when he's not

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making shots, like he's gonna, you know, be a battering

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ram down the lane. And with Jimmy not healthy, do

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you want him taking that assignment? The flip side is

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but like, what does that do to your shell defense

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if Draymond has to sort of lock in on Randal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you really do want Draymond on the back line

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if you can. I mean, because just I mean, the

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way they configure their starting lineup, there's just nobody else

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on on the floor that can do anything on the

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back line, so he has to be back there. Yeah,

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it's it's a tough It's weird that, like Minnesota's offense

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sort of presents problems for the Warriors defense, and I think,

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relatively speaking, the Warriors defense is a strength, So I

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mean I do. That's actually haven't even decided who I'm

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picking in this series, so we're gonna have to work

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our way there. But I'm concerned now as we're talking

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Speaker 2: My last tactical thing would be So the Wolves had

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just like two of the worst three point shooting performances

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we ever kind of saw against the Lakers, and they

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won one of them. Right, They did shoot like forty

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two percent on wide open threes, which is fine, but

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when you look at semi open threes, which are really

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like semi contested threes, it's with a defender between four

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and six feet away and like when you're an NBA

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player size, but those are shots that you're gonna have

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to take twenty four percent on those bad boys. And

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now you kind of combine that with the Edwards at

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the rim has just been so weird for a while,

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even when like the looks feel high percentage. Now like

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a lot of it I talked up to. Okay, the

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spacing environment, I think great, But I'm just looking at

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some of these misses from him at the basket, like

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one of those things preferably both needs to turn. And

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Speaker 4: And maybe I'm wrong here, please correct me.

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Speaker 2: It feels like the three point shooting for Minnesota's good,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's doubly true if the Warriors send

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too at Edwards, which which they might, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what I think I expect them to do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether I expect that because like normally

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you just say yeah because other other than commly like

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who's making a play that you're scared of. Now, playoff Randall,

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you'd say, I'm scared of Randall, the play being he

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will drive through someone and make a layup. But my

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tackle thing was was like how Edwards has handled doubles,

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bet the best I've ever seen him handle them against

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the Lakers, Like just the kinds of quick passes you

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wanted to make, the kind of like floor mapping where

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he'd throw one real quickly.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I wasn't even.

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Speaker 3: Sure that guy was there, but he knew there was one.

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I think it was like read at the elbow or

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something like in the clinching game against the Lakers, where

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I was like, I don't think he makes that pass

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last year or like even during the season. So if

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the Warriors do send two, then what you're talking about

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the three point like just making open in like decent

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threes like the thunder. The Wolves will get those shots

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like that just is what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: So it's got those things are kind of tied together.

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Do I think they'll send two at Edwards?

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Speaker 1: I bet not.

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Speaker 3: At first, I would guess that the Warriors will play

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it more straight up where it's Moody or whoever, probably

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Moody the more we talk about it, and then if

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that doesn't work, then I think you probably have to

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send two, especially if Peyton's not on floor. And then

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like Peyton's given up a lot of size and strength

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to Edwards, so I think eventually we may see that

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become like the default.

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Speaker 4: What's the what are the storylines in this series?

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Speaker 3: I mean just for the Wolves side is easy and

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it's Edwards just toppling another like took down Durant last year,

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took down Lebron, took down Steph like it's they would

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you could if you're writing the like, so what call

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him about this series? And the Wolves winning and Edwards

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is awesome? It's like, oh, the guard changed, We just

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watched it happen. Like the guy we all want to

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be the face of the league just took down the

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last three faces of the league, like basically in order.

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So it's like we don't get to talk about him

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as a hypothetical anymore, Like he's just the guy and

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we never ever get to say or we never get

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to bet against him, or how about this, you have

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to when picking a series involving the Wolves, do the

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thing I do with Jokic, where it's like, well, they

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have him so like that, therefore, I'm not picking against

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the Wolves or I have to at least like hem

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and haw about it.

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Speaker 2: So I guess my storyline of combining the two together,

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the Edwards one is great, by the way, but it's

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like which team I don't want to just say, like

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default to which team has kind of work, which team

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would react to a loss more dramatically, because it's which

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I guess is the same thing as who has more

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at stake. But it's just like Minnesota has come alive

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towards the end of the season, and we've seen that,

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like they've kind of gotten up for the moment basically

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all year, even when they were having their iffy crunch

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time stuff, which flipped entirely against the Lakers all of

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a sudden a good crunch time team. But like the

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Cat trade still sort of looms. Is this weird inflection

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point where you guys, shall was it worth it? And

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it feels like this series will be the determining factor

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as to whether it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you will have made it as far as

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you did with Cat, Like yeah, right, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: It also kind of dictates, nas Reed player option, Julius Randall,

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player option, Walker, free agent, Like where are you going?

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Like if you get bounced in the second round, even

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if it's competitive, what are you doing? It's not I

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don't expect them to blow it up or anything, but

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like how much are you willing to continue investing in this?

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Speaker 4: And that it's that core?

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Speaker 3: Don't you think that the playing like they did against

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the Lakers? A lot of the elements of that, like

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Randall defending really well and being a huge factor.

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Speaker 4: Like turned off the water for Lebron. So isn't series.

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Speaker 1: Aren't the Wolves decisions harder? Like but for a good reason,

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you know, because.

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Speaker 3: It was like if Randall had flopped and like, Okay,

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it's clear he's not a fit in and the playoffs

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validated that, it's like, okay, how do we get off

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this or like you know that kind of thing, and

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now it's it's like whatever happens against Golden State, Randall,

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at least for a series against Lebron, James and Luca Dancis.

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Speaker 1: Looked like I think he's a value add in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think the argument that you could make is if

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you look at the individual production of all the players involved,

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kat Dante Di Evincenzo, Julius Randallkay to Bait's job of course,

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but could forget.

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Speaker 4: If you look at it, you could call it a

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win win.

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Speaker 2: But if you're looking at the value add to a

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team so far in the postseason, the Minnesota Timberwolve so

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far seemed like they may have won that trade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like and we killed it. We both killed

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it in any in a weird way. So I think

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to answer your question, even though we're just talking about

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like what we're going to talk about, but it's a

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fascinating question, I think the Wolves would be the team

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to like do more, you know, in reaction to a loss.

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But that's mainly like the Warriors made their move, Like

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the Butler move was the move I feel like, and

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it's I don't know what, they're not going to trade

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Butler or stuff or Draymond and then after that it's like, okay,

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well like what they were always.

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Speaker 1: Going to tinker on the margins anyway. Yeah, So like.

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Speaker 3: I I think, probably, you know, in a weird way,

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like the Warriors maybe should be the team to be

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thinking about like big changes because the timeline is like

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zero now and they got to figure something out. Uh,

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but the Wolves are the Wolves feel more likely to

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do something, and that's almost got less to do with

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what happens in the series. It's and more to do

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with like, they made a financial move last year and

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they still have some weird contract stuff to figure out.

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Speaker 1: You know, Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I mean, as you said, their decisions get harder

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in a good way. Because now if if Nasried or

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Julius Randam become cap casualties, whether it's via trade or

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they opt out, leave or some whatever, that just looks Again,

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if they win this series, that'll look damning and like,

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but do you have enough to justify.

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Speaker 4: Doing that even if you lose this series?

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Speaker 2: Given like what you I know, luco Is, did you

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see him running up and down the court by the

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end of that It was just like a skimper.

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Speaker 4: It was just very weird.

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Speaker 2: So and from the Warrior's perspective, they could win or

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lose this series. I'm gonna tell you my off season

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dream transaction for them. Other stuff will need to be

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attached because this player's value is just imploded. The Jonathan

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Kaminga signed and trade for camp Johnson is like that's

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the move that I think, like, oh, the Warriors went

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this far in the playoffs in twenty twenty five, Like

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they'll just be a bona fide contender if they can

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pull off something like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cam Johnson could probably get on the floor,

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so he'd be a pretty big, pretty big value of

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advantage there.

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Speaker 2: What's your X factor for start warship with ever team

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you want?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I stepped on it. It's Pajemski for the Warriors.

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It's just like he's not gonna I don't think he'll

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be guarded by one of the world's two best perimeter defenders,

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and so like by default he has to be not

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just making the open threes that come to down, but

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like he's gonna have to initiate offense, like he will

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have to beat a guy and make the right pass,

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Like he's gonna have a significant offensive role. And again,

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I really do think the Warriors are gonna be okay defensively,

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not to take anything away from Minnesota, but where I'm

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concerned and where anyone who's watched them, even with Butler,

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like scoring is hard against good defenses for them, especially

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ones that are equipped to take steph out or limit him,

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and so it just Pajemski is like the only guy

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that can Pastora will shoot like other than Stephan Butler,

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So it just has to be him.

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Speaker 2: For me, I have Moses Moody because I think that

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he is going to spend a lot of ample time

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on Edwards and I mean, like maybe you're just gonna

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see him, like you might even get some time against Randall,

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like depending on how the setup is. And so he's

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just gonna be super important if you want to make

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sure that Jimmy Butler isn't doing too much heavy lifting,

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or you don't need to try and overextend Gary Payton.

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The second I say this and only slightly tongue in cheekly,

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I kind of wondered if Quinton Post would be a

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good option here because it's just like, if you look

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at the if you wanted to and you wanted to

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kind of increase the dynamosm of your offense, the Wolves

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in any given lineup do have players that you like

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Quentin post On Jade McDaniels, Like, they're not gonna bring

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Quinton Post to the screening action if that's what's happening.

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So like, do you even if Conley's on the floor, Like, yeah,

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that might be Like with that might So I'm just

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could this be a Quinton Post? Will it be more

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of a Quinton Post? Who's more who logs more total.

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Speaker 4: Minutes by the end of the series comingo or Post? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Post? Is Post gonna play a minute? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I always for Garry Payton the second Uh, that's pretty

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I think.

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna play more minutes?

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Speaker 3: I would guess GP two just because he's gonna one

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of the few, Like you're not terrified options on Edwards,

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You're terrified of everybody, but but I think he's viable there.

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Post is Post is a great X factor though, because

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like he if he if he runs hot, then like

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you just have to sort.

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Speaker 1: Of adjust your defense to him.

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Speaker 3: And there are just aren't a lot of shooters on

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the Warriors that that's true of other than Steph.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean Buddy Heeld could also they have a

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lot of like potential extractors because it's can you get

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away with playing him in this series? If the war

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because the Wolves will decide to match up on down

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the perimeter, So if Buddy Heal's on the courts, like

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can how how if you know him and Steph together,

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Like how many minutes can you get away with that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean if you start Healed as the Warriors and

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you put him on McDaniels and you say, Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Butler, sorry, man, you drew the short straw.

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Speaker 3: You got edwards, like you could keep Healed on the

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floor a little bit, right, like because and I and

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I was now it was all in on Moody starting now.

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I wonder because like offense is the problem. That's why

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Buddy Hill has played so much. Well, you have to

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guard the guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I I think I think Moody is a good pick

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because he again if you do play him because you

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need him defensively, like he just has to make shots.

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He has to take shots and make shots, and that's

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been an issue so far.

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Speaker 4: Who's your X actor for the Timberwolves?

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Speaker 1: So this was hard.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna say nas Reid because I think

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with go Bear off the floor, the Warriors could kind

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of get some interesting stuff going on offense, and Reid

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has been just he gets better defensively, you know all

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the time. I don't think, I don't think he's a minus.

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But if if Reid and Reid is going to be

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a problem on offense too, with his shooting and ability

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to just I mean, he's going to be the biggest

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guy on the floor most of the time against the Warriors.

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If he can be decent on defense when he when

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and if he's the lone big I think that makes

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things really really hard for the Warriors because because for

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Golden State to succeed, I think maybe like they'll need

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to have stretches where they're just like, oh, go bears

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off the floor, reads reads the loan big, now we

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can score and if and if they can do that,

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then you know, maybe they go on to win it.

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If Red is like good enough as as the five,

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I just I don't know how the Warriors are going

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to put up enough points.

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Speaker 2: I struggled between Tante Evencenzo and he Keith Alexander Walker

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because I think that Walker will be called upon to

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like he will get Steph minutes against Steph Curry, maybe.

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Speaker 4: Even Buddy Healed.

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Speaker 2: But I really still just don't trust Minnesota's offense, like

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at its core and nicolex Entreer, Walker's not gonna be

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the person that swings that like maybe he swings in

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the owner if he's not making his shots, that becomes difficult.

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So I'm gonna lead Dante DiVincenzo to where it's if

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the Warriors decided to throw two at Edwards, or if

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Edwards is just having a game where he's not finishing

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around the rim, or Moody or Peyton second or Jimmy

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Butler's on him, just making like difficult, and we know

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that Draymond's gonna see like be able to gum up stuff.

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Maybe that makes life tougher on Julius Randall, Like Ken

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Dante Vincenzo, I don't know what he shot in the

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Lakers series, was like twenty three percent three whatever it was.

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Can he make Golden State's defense pay when it's in

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rotation or even when he just has the ball in

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its hands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 4: Who are you picking?

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you go first. I haven't decided yet.

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Speaker 2: I am going to pick the Minnesota Timberwolves to lose

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in seven games.

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Speaker 4: You like what I did there.

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Speaker 2: I have been pretty high on the Timberwolves all season

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in terms of I've been up and down on them

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with their performance against really good teams. I could see

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their size frustrating the Warriors in similar ways, that it

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did the Lakers. The difference to me is that I

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think Golden State has the ability to get more creative

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offensively and I just think they just in general have

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more two way players than the Lakers do, and so

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they can make life hell on Minnesota's offense even more

518
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so than we saw like the Lakers do. And it's

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not again, they have that same lack of size, but

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this is not should we dust off Maxi Klieba or

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continue to be married to Jackson Hayes. It's oh, Draymond

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at the five sure, like that is just that's the

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antidote to everything. I don't care, like what sort of

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your size is. It was close, though, I really the

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Wolves have just it wouldn't shock me if the Wolves

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won this in five. So it's like I could see

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it tilt the scales tilting in that favor too.

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Speaker 3: Because, like you know, again, I think there are some

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you know, inclusions you can draw about Golden State based

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on the challenges that Houston presented, Like that was a

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rough like the physicality and the size and the athleticism

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and the defense just that was hard to navigate, Like

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there were stretches where it was like there's no way

534
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the Warriors can be can score on this team, Like

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it just it seemed like that for entire games. You know,

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during that series. I don't think Minnesota is not that good,

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not like not that overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: You're not playing Jabari Smith Junior, Steven Adams at Alparne right.

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Speaker 3: And also Am and Thomson and Dylan Brooks. It's just

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like they don't they can't. They can't quite do that there.

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You know, even Van Vliet like as a defender is

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like like Conley's working as hard as he can, but

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Connley's thirty seven and not as good a defender as

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Van Vleet. Like there's not a weak point really unless

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you say Shangoon and like, I don't know, I think

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I have to go, I have to join you and

547
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go Warriors in seven. But that's a real heart pick.

548
00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:55,440
I think the head pick is, like, so that's my

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official pick Warriors and seven. The head pick is just

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Minnesota just presents so many like physicality and size and

551
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,359
just talent and athleticism problems that combined like with Butler

552
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banged up with Steph's thumb thing, like Steph has not

553
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,759
had like Steff's looked bad and like has looked like

554
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,599
kind of man handled by by the Rockets late in

555
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that series. Like, I think the head pick should be Minnesota,

556
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but I'm not gonna do it this.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fun as hell series though,

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so we both have the Warriors in seven games.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks everybody for listening, for watching.

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