Speaker 1: You know, if you look, for example, in the financial sectors,
we're already starting to see scams in the financial world
through the use of deep.
Speaker 2: Fake audio and visual.
Speaker 1: We're even seeing governments using deep fake communications against other entities.
For example, China just went on the attack with a
propaganda engine across video, written, word, and audio in Taiwan
to try to separate Taiwan in America, to try to
chill Taiwan as it relates to capitalism.
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I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Today we are with Mark
Beckman again, Mark an interesting background professor at NYU New Yorker.
Through and through we're talking about the Take It Down Act, which, honestly,
until you mentioned it to me, I didn't even realize
there was such a thing. But it's rare Congress is
set to pass this. You know has passed it, you know,
almost unanimously. You got to wonder who voted against it?
Can you just explain what it is?
Speaker 1: I can sure well carry First, thanks for having me
on the show.
Speaker 2: It's great to see you again. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: To give you some context, the Take It Down Act
has now been passed in both the House of Representatives
and the Senate. It's a bipartisan effort with Senators Cruise
and Klobchair. And to give you some back story on it,
there was a fifteen year old old girl named Elliston Barry.
Speaker 2: The name might ring a bell.
Speaker 1: Because she actually sat next to the first Lady, Milania
Trump in her box at the President's State of the Union.
And Elliston was the victim of deep fake pornography.
Speaker 2: She woke up one morning and found that the mean.
Speaker 1: Kids in her school, allegedly her friends, had superimposed an
image of her head on top of pornography and then
disseminated that across social media. When her parents woke up,
they were just totally shocked. And you can imagine her
whole life fell apart. Kerrie, So what did she do?
Like any other parent, what do they do like any
other parents. They reached out to the social media company's Google, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Snap, Snapchat,
and beyond, and they failed. They had no help. So
all of a sudden, this thing is going viral, it's
going worldwide, and their poor fel fifteen year old daughter
is just crushed. Her life is destroyed. So with that,
Clobisher and Cruise stood up and said, you know what,
it's time for us to protect our next generation of
children and grandchildren. So they put together this Act, as
you mentioned, to Take It Down Act, And basically what
it does is it holds these social media platforms responsible
for what they refer to the term of art is
non consensual intimate imagery and CII is the anacronym YEP
non consensual intimate intimate imagery. And essentially what happens now
is if an individual finds that they've been the victim
of deep fake porn and they contact the social media platforms,
the social media platforms have a time period I think
it's forty eight hours to pull it down, to take
it off of their platform, and if they fail to
do so, they end up.
Speaker 2: Getting fined in a major, major away.
Speaker 1: So this thing is through Congress, and it looks like
President Trump is ready to sign this into binding legislation,
binding law in the next ten, ten to fifteen days.
Speaker 4: That's amazing. Wow, that's amazing that it happened that quickly.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a horrific situation though, and it's really groundbreaking
because to date, big tech has been you know, really
left alone in many different ways, as you know, as
it relates to legislation. People have been complaining about it
for a long time. But now look, these companies are
going to be held accountable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a good thing, right, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's a good thing. I was analyzing, Kerry. I'm
curious what you think about this. Actually, I was analyzing
the ecosystem. So now you have three components. You have
the family at home, you have the corporations with a
fiduciary duty to drive revenue to their shareholders of course,
and then the government. All of those elements could protect
our children and our grandchildren from deep fake porn.
Speaker 2: But who will be the best at it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Lo, I think the answer is pretty obvious, right.
Speaker 1: I think so too, you know, I think it's going
to be a combined effort though, I think like it's
got to start at the home. We're going to have
to start to apply morals and ethics as it relates
to artificial intelligence in this type of in this type.
Speaker 2: Of new world where videos are they look hyper realistic.
Speaker 1: Now audio I know, like with my agency DMA United,
we're already using synthetic voice Generation AI created voice that
is a perfect replica of our clients. So we're living
in a world now where our children carry Like you
and I grew up in a world where seeing or
hearing is believing. But the next generation they need to
be trained at home where if you see it and
you hear it, do not believe it, verify it.
Speaker 4: Question everything. Maybe that's a good thing because humanity has
been asleep for so long just accepting narratives and whatever
garbage that the media spews out, and you know, institutions,
et cetera, believing things that just aren't true. Whether it's
about people, things, places, America, you name it. It's all
about narratives. It's not about truth. So maybe this is
a first step in the direction of truth.
Speaker 1: I think so, but it's you know, it's a slippery
slope here. Also, the take it down Act. Some people
are concerned about your First Amendment right. I know you're
an attorney, freedom of speech right, Because I wonder how
these big social media platforms are going to manage the
massive amount of complaints. How many are true, how many
are fake? Do people have some kind of a hidden agenda?
So there could be a slippery slope here where there's
a restriction on First Amendment freedom of speech.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's theoretically possible there so, but they're
probably not going to stop with this because it's going
to have holes in it. We're going to need follow
ups on this, right, That's.
Speaker 1: Correct, And I believe that already the Senator from Tennessee,
Marshall Blackburn, is already creating something that's also in this
lane of technology, artificial intelligence and deep fakes.
Speaker 4: So we can look forward to more.
Speaker 1: In other words, right, absolutely, it's on the way more government.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, hey, you know it's kind of inescapable because
this is really where you need the government the most,
where innocent people's rights are getting trampled upon and infringed upon. Right,
So you really need government here in this instance, Even
if you're a hardcore libertarian, even if you're rand Paul, Right,
you got to you got to be wondering.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I think so the topic of deep fakes
is going to become more and more prevalent.
Speaker 2: You and I develop a dialogue.
Speaker 1: I get into this a little bit with my book
some future day, how ai is going to change everything?
You know, if you look, for example, in the financial sectors,
we're already starting to see scams in the financial world
through the use of deep fake audio and visual. We're
even seeing governments using deep fake communications against other entities.
For example, China just went on the attack with a
propaganda engine across video, written, word, and audio in Taiwan
to try to separate Taiwan in America, to try to
chill Taiwan as it relates to capitalism. So the concept
of deep fakes is going to become more and more
in our lives. We're going to hear it about it
more and more over the next few years.
Speaker 4: Sounds about right, you know, sounds about right. And it's
no surprises here. I mean, all this kind of stuff
is inevitable with technology. It's just an example of how
technology outruns government, outruns everything, and people are scrambling to
try to keep up.
Speaker 2: With it. You know, that's for sure. That's for sure.
Speaker 4: All right, So what's next on your activity list here?
You got anything interesting happening here?
Speaker 1: Well, we certainly do. As a little preview. It's cool
that you're asking me that. Carry so you know, obviously
the book, I'll hold it up if you know. Mine
some future day has been doing great. It hit number
one on Amazon for artificial intelligence and actually sold that.
It's sold out on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. It's
back in startled. Now these are congregations.
Speaker 2: On I am.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, and my agency is about to launch
a global initiative on the audiobook side of things where
we actually use artificial intelligence with the most high profile person.
I can't disclose it yet. I know that's terrible to say.
I'm embarrassed to say that.
Speaker 2: I hate when people do that.
Speaker 1: But within the next three weeks or so, we're going
to come out with the most high profile, fully powered
AI voice audio book and it's going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: So my whole agency, everybody's like all hands on deck.
We're analyzing every single world word. It's going to make
ripples throughout you know, probably throughout the world.
Speaker 4: I love it. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to cut backtingas as Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah when it comes out, man, I want to see
it for sure, definite, Willie, definitely, all right. Just tell us, uh, Mark,
where do we find you? How do we connect with
you on the web?
Speaker 2: Thanks?
Speaker 1: So I am on all social media platforms X, Instagram,
LinkedIn and it's at Mark Beckman m A R C
B E C K M A N.
Speaker 2: And again the book is.
Speaker 1: Some future day how AI is going to change everything
and people could grab it today on Amazon, Barnes and Noble,
target any major bookseller.
Speaker 4: All right, excellent. Hey, well, if you got a question
from Mark or myself, shoot me an email kl atcarrielets
dot com and you'll find a link to mark site
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when that new AI voice comes out. Sounds fascinating.
Speaker 2: Thanks Kerry.
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