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Speaker 2: Fake audio and visual.

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Speaker 1: We're even seeing governments using deep fake communications against other entities.

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For example, China just went on the attack with a

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propaganda engine across video, written, word, and audio in Taiwan

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to try to separate Taiwan in America, to try to

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chill Taiwan as it relates to capitalism.

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Speaker 2: And welcome.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network.

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I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Today we are with Mark

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Beckman again, Mark an interesting background professor at NYU New Yorker.

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Through and through we're talking about the Take It Down Act, which, honestly,

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until you mentioned it to me, I didn't even realize

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there was such a thing. But it's rare Congress is

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set to pass this. You know has passed it, you know,

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almost unanimously. You got to wonder who voted against it?

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Can you just explain what it is?

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Speaker 1: I can sure well carry First, thanks for having me

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on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's great to see you again. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: To give you some context, the Take It Down Act

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has now been passed in both the House of Representatives

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and the Senate. It's a bipartisan effort with Senators Cruise

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and Klobchair. And to give you some back story on it,

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there was a fifteen year old old girl named Elliston Barry.

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Speaker 2: The name might ring a bell.

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Speaker 1: Because she actually sat next to the first Lady, Milania

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Trump in her box at the President's State of the Union.

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And Elliston was the victim of deep fake pornography.

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Speaker 2: She woke up one morning and found that the mean.

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Speaker 1: Kids in her school, allegedly her friends, had superimposed an

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image of her head on top of pornography and then

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disseminated that across social media. When her parents woke up,

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they were just totally shocked. And you can imagine her

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whole life fell apart. Kerrie, So what did she do?

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Like any other parent, what do they do like any

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other parents. They reached out to the social media company's Google, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Snap, Snapchat,

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and beyond, and they failed. They had no help. So

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all of a sudden, this thing is going viral, it's

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going worldwide, and their poor fel fifteen year old daughter

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is just crushed. Her life is destroyed. So with that,

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Clobisher and Cruise stood up and said, you know what,

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it's time for us to protect our next generation of

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children and grandchildren. So they put together this Act, as

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you mentioned, to Take It Down Act, And basically what

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it does is it holds these social media platforms responsible

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for what they refer to the term of art is

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non consensual intimate imagery and CII is the anacronym YEP

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non consensual intimate intimate imagery. And essentially what happens now

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is if an individual finds that they've been the victim

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of deep fake porn and they contact the social media platforms,

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the social media platforms have a time period I think

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it's forty eight hours to pull it down, to take

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it off of their platform, and if they fail to

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do so, they end up.

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Speaker 2: Getting fined in a major, major away.

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Speaker 1: So this thing is through Congress, and it looks like

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President Trump is ready to sign this into binding legislation,

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binding law in the next ten, ten to fifteen days.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing. Wow, that's amazing that it happened that quickly.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a horrific situation though, and it's really groundbreaking

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because to date, big tech has been you know, really

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left alone in many different ways, as you know, as

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it relates to legislation. People have been complaining about it

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for a long time. But now look, these companies are

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going to be held accountable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a good thing, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's a good thing. I was analyzing, Kerry. I'm

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curious what you think about this. Actually, I was analyzing

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the ecosystem. So now you have three components. You have

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the family at home, you have the corporations with a

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fiduciary duty to drive revenue to their shareholders of course,

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and then the government. All of those elements could protect

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our children and our grandchildren from deep fake porn.

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Speaker 2: But who will be the best at it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Lo, I think the answer is pretty obvious, right.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, you know, I think it's going

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to be a combined effort though, I think like it's

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got to start at the home. We're going to have

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to start to apply morals and ethics as it relates

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to artificial intelligence in this type of in this type.

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Speaker 2: Of new world where videos are they look hyper realistic.

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Speaker 1: Now audio I know, like with my agency DMA United,

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we're already using synthetic voice Generation AI created voice that

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is a perfect replica of our clients. So we're living

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in a world now where our children carry Like you

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and I grew up in a world where seeing or

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hearing is believing. But the next generation they need to

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be trained at home where if you see it and

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you hear it, do not believe it, verify it.

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Speaker 4: Question everything. Maybe that's a good thing because humanity has

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been asleep for so long just accepting narratives and whatever

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garbage that the media spews out, and you know, institutions,

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et cetera, believing things that just aren't true. Whether it's

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about people, things, places, America, you name it. It's all

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about narratives. It's not about truth. So maybe this is

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a first step in the direction of truth.

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Speaker 1: I think so, but it's you know, it's a slippery

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slope here. Also, the take it down Act. Some people

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are concerned about your First Amendment right. I know you're

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an attorney, freedom of speech right, Because I wonder how

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these big social media platforms are going to manage the

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massive amount of complaints. How many are true, how many

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are fake? Do people have some kind of a hidden agenda?

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So there could be a slippery slope here where there's

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a restriction on First Amendment freedom of speech.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's theoretically possible there so, but they're

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probably not going to stop with this because it's going

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to have holes in it. We're going to need follow

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ups on this, right, That's.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And I believe that already the Senator from Tennessee,

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Marshall Blackburn, is already creating something that's also in this

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lane of technology, artificial intelligence and deep fakes.

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Speaker 4: So we can look forward to more.

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Speaker 1: In other words, right, absolutely, it's on the way more government.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, hey, you know it's kind of inescapable because

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this is really where you need the government the most,

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where innocent people's rights are getting trampled upon and infringed upon. Right,

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So you really need government here in this instance, Even

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if you're a hardcore libertarian, even if you're rand Paul, Right,

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you got to you got to be wondering.

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I think so the topic of deep fakes

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is going to become more and more prevalent.

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Speaker 2: You and I develop a dialogue.

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Speaker 1: I get into this a little bit with my book

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some future day, how ai is going to change everything?

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You know, if you look, for example, in the financial sectors,

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we're already starting to see scams in the financial world

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through the use of deep fake audio and visual. We're

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even seeing governments using deep fake communications against other entities.

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For example, China just went on the attack with a

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propaganda engine across video, written, word, and audio in Taiwan

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to try to separate Taiwan in America, to try to

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chill Taiwan as it relates to capitalism. So the concept

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of deep fakes is going to become more and more

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in our lives. We're going to hear it about it

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more and more over the next few years.

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Speaker 4: Sounds about right, you know, sounds about right. And it's

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no surprises here. I mean, all this kind of stuff

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is inevitable with technology. It's just an example of how

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technology outruns government, outruns everything, and people are scrambling to

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Speaker 2: With it. You know, that's for sure. That's for sure.

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Speaker 4: All right, So what's next on your activity list here?

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You got anything interesting happening here?

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Speaker 1: Well, we certainly do. As a little preview. It's cool

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that you're asking me that. Carry so you know, obviously

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the book, I'll hold it up if you know. Mine

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some future day has been doing great. It hit number

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one on Amazon for artificial intelligence and actually sold that.

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It's sold out on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. It's

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back in startled. Now these are congregations.

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Speaker 2: On I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, and my agency is about to launch

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a global initiative on the audiobook side of things where

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we actually use artificial intelligence with the most high profile person.

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I can't disclose it yet. I know that's terrible to say.

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I'm embarrassed to say that.

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Speaker 2: I hate when people do that.

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Speaker 1: But within the next three weeks or so, we're going

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to come out with the most high profile, fully powered

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AI voice audio book and it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: So my whole agency, everybody's like all hands on deck.

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We're analyzing every single world word. It's going to make

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ripples throughout you know, probably throughout the world.

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Speaker 4: I love it. That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to cut backtingas as Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah when it comes out, man, I want to see

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it for sure, definite, Willie, definitely, all right. Just tell us, uh, Mark,

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where do we find you? How do we connect with

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you on the web?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 1: So I am on all social media platforms X, Instagram,

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LinkedIn and it's at Mark Beckman m A R C

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B E C K M A N.

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Speaker 2: And again the book is.

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Speaker 1: Some future day how AI is going to change everything

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and people could grab it today on Amazon, Barnes and Noble,

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target any major bookseller.

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Speaker 4: All right, excellent. Hey, well, if you got a question

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from Mark or myself, shoot me an email kl atcarrielets

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when that new AI voice comes out. Sounds fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Kerry.

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