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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cliff and Bobo. These guys are your favorites, so

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<v Speaker 2>like say subscribe and rade it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm star and.

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<v Speaker 2>Greatest con yesterday and listening a watch limb always keep

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<v Speaker 2>its watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bobo Fay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, kids, is Cliff Berrickman. And you are now listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and usually Bobo. Bobo

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<v Speaker 2>is on vacation. He's actually off the continent right now,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're going to leave him out of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>I know that we all miss him and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I do. I can barely sleep at night

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that Bobo is not going to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast the next day. But anyway, let's go to our guests.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've been actually trying to get this guy on

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<v Speaker 2>the show for quite a while. It's started running across

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<v Speaker 2>this guy but last year at some point, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we've known each other very long, but we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hit it off. We're good friends at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I did I did a conference that he organized this

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<v Speaker 2>past this past spring or summer or something earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Anyway, and he has a lifetime worth of

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<v Speaker 2>adventure to share. You know, he's a film producer, he's

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<v Speaker 2>an adventurer in general, he's an organized he's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different things, but more than anything, he is Steven Majors.

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<v Speaker 2>So Steven, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so happy we can finally get you on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sorry for Bobo's absence.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a problem, man, I'm just grateful to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the show, and thank you for that wonderful intro. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the best I ever got.

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<v Speaker 2>You cover it the best. Oh man, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>do more podcast because I thought it was pretty mediocre,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Well anyway, So yeah, you've had basically a

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<v Speaker 2>lifetime of kind of circling around the Bigfoot of the

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot subject in some way or another. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it started up in coastal British Columbia back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. How did a bigfoot get on your radar?

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<v Speaker 3>What you said there were really good. I really had.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a very interesting father, and I had a

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting childhood because he was a really adventurous guy too,

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<v Speaker 3>and he kind of that kind of emulated in me

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<v Speaker 3>and some of my siblings as well. But one of

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<v Speaker 3>the fortunate things that relate to Bigfoot here is I

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<v Speaker 3>was born in Kellogg, Idaho, so northern Idaho. That's where

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<v Speaker 3>I raised until nineteen seventy six. And my father comes

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<v Speaker 3>home and he says, hey, here's the deal. We're moving

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<v Speaker 3>to this wonderful, beautiful place. It's heaven on Earth. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called Jennis Bay. It's located on the northern coast of BC,

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<v Speaker 3>out in the bush across from Port Hardy, where he

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<v Speaker 3>had actually lived and worked at logging camps in various

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<v Speaker 3>places in the nineteen forties and fifties. And we're like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wow, you know, and he's a really beautiful sketch

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<v Speaker 3>artist and he would sketch all these photos about this

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<v Speaker 3>is what it looks like and blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm like, twelve tan or whatever. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. And so anyways, subsequently he moved us,

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<v Speaker 3>school got out, he packed us up, and we all

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<v Speaker 3>moved to this little place called Jennis Bay out there

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<v Speaker 3>on the coast. And it was a real adventure because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, here we are and we're young, and we

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<v Speaker 3>drive to Seattle and then we get on a floatplane

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<v Speaker 3>and then we fly for three and a half hours,

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, up the coast, and we finally we

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<v Speaker 3>land in this in this little bay. I always remember

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<v Speaker 3>the day we came in there. It was gray and

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<v Speaker 3>overcast and you know, just kind of typical BC with her,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, and we land in the land in this

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<v Speaker 3>little little bay called Jennis Bay. And what was there

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<v Speaker 3>was an abandoned logging camp that was closed down in

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<v Speaker 3>the fifties and it was like a town. There were

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven buildings there, homes and jobs and blah blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah that have been completely abandoned and left to itself

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<v Speaker 3>for all those years. He moved us up there, and

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that we we came to know

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<v Speaker 3>about it after we had been there for a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit is my ad had actually grown up with a

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<v Speaker 3>chief of the Indian village that was down there in Hopetown.

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<v Speaker 3>Village was just down the inlet from us, and so

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<v Speaker 3>he was good friends with them, and when we had

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<v Speaker 3>moved there, we had some associations with them, and the

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<v Speaker 3>rules were kind of set down. It was like a

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<v Speaker 3>welcome thing, you know, welcome you know, children of Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>Major blah blah, that kind of thing to the area

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<v Speaker 3>and nice to media. Now here are some ground rules

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<v Speaker 3>for living in the area. One of the ground rules

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<v Speaker 3>was we were free to travel anywhere that we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to around the lakes and the inlet. However, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a specific area that is just northwest of the of

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<v Speaker 3>the Hopetown village, and it was like, you go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>but see those mountains up there, You do not go

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<v Speaker 3>up there. That is a sake. That's those are sacred grounds.

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<v Speaker 3>You stay out of there. Don't go up there because

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<v Speaker 3>if you do, you're going to run into trouble because

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<v Speaker 3>there is a guardian. The guardian will get you. And

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<v Speaker 3>and it turned out the guardian was duna Quar sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you stay at all those areas and welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to well, you know, welcome to BC and have a

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<v Speaker 3>good time. And that was about it. But that was

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<v Speaker 3>my first introduction with sasquatch. And we learned more about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it really didn't stick with me, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. We're like, oh, that's kind of cool and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but it really didn't bother us all that much. However,

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<v Speaker 3>that was in nineteen seventy six, and so every now

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<v Speaker 3>and then you would hear a few things, but we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't take it serious. And I was like, Dad, well,

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<v Speaker 3>was there sasquatch around here? Yeah? There is, but here

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they won't mess with you. You don't mess with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry about that. And we went about our business.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in nineteen fast forward three years, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy nine, so I'm about fifteen years old, and

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<v Speaker 3>beyond Jennis Bay there's a lake. It's called Who Asked Lake,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's about thirteen miles long, and we were up

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<v Speaker 3>working on the lake there. We do log selvage on

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<v Speaker 3>the lake, and one afternoon my dad pulls into this

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<v Speaker 3>little by and we're gonna have some lunch. He gets

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<v Speaker 3>off the boat and a few moments later he comes

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<v Speaker 3>running back all excited at everything. It says, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to come over here. Look what we found. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>look what I found. Look what I found. So me

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<v Speaker 3>and the other guy we get off the boat and

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<v Speaker 3>we walked along the beach there and there's a little

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<v Speaker 3>sandy area where a stream had come down, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like a draw. It had a stream run down through

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<v Speaker 3>it in a little sandy beach area, and we're like,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, come here, comm here, you got to look

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<v Speaker 3>at this. And we get over there and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>he points down, he goes, look at that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like what. He goes, bigfoot? And what was in the

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<v Speaker 3>little sandy area. There was, you know, some huge footprints.

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<v Speaker 3>You could see where this thing had come down the hill.

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<v Speaker 3>It walked around on the Sandy Beach area, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it turned around and gone back up the side of

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<v Speaker 3>this draw and I'm like, holy crap, and we're like

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<v Speaker 3>looking at him. He goes, I told you a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember we measure the tracks. They were like

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen or eighteen inches, but they were flipping huge, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like that it started to become real for me

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<v Speaker 3>at that point. And then he's said, well, let's follow them.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what we did is we followed them up

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<v Speaker 3>the draw and you could see where the thing came

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<v Speaker 3>down and then when it went back up the draw,

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<v Speaker 3>which was on the edge of this little stream that

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<v Speaker 3>came through there, and we're following up the hill and

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<v Speaker 3>it's going boom, boom boom, and here are these huge,

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<v Speaker 3>big tracks and then about I don't know, maybe seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five yards up the hill, it plateaued for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there was a little little pool where the

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<v Speaker 3>stream had come down and it was had pooled there.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you got up to that little plateau and

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<v Speaker 3>you could see where it stopped, and it had gotten down,

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<v Speaker 3>we believe it got down on its knees, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was two huge handprints like it had gotten down, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on its knees and put one hand down here, one

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<v Speaker 3>down here, and we presume it got a drink of water.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like, holy smokes man, the hands were

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely just huge. And then it kind of got up,

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<v Speaker 3>or well, we're assuming it got up. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>followed the tracks farther up the side of the hill,

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<v Speaker 3>probably about another seventy five hundred yards, and they stopped

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<v Speaker 3>at a rock cliff. We lost them. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that was significant about this when we're going up

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<v Speaker 3>the hill, when we're walking up that draw, about every

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<v Speaker 3>so often there would be an about six or seven

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<v Speaker 3>feet up on an alder tree. These green alder trees,

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<v Speaker 3>they were broken over, twisted and broken over all to

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<v Speaker 3>the left, all to the same side. As you're going

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<v Speaker 3>up the hill, probably about you know, every twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>thirty feet and I'm like, whatsk my dad? I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>detracts and all this stuff is crazy, but what is

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<v Speaker 3>that all about? You could see a line of them

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<v Speaker 3>going up the hill, and he said, that's how a

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<v Speaker 3>sasquatch marks it's territory.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're all going the same direction. I wonder what that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, going the same direction, like a line, like a

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<v Speaker 3>picket line going up the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I was thinking if they're all to the left,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that shines some sort of light on

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<v Speaker 2>left handedness or right handedness of these animals, because studies

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<v Speaker 2>have been done on other other ape species about that

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<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and I always regret. You know, this

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<v Speaker 3>was in nineteen seventy nine, so we didn't have cell phones.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we didn't have a movie camera with us.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just something that we stumbled across. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stumbled across on that. But man, if you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>regret to that. You know, it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 3>where if I would have had some plaster you know,

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<v Speaker 3>even thought of these things like plaster casting, you know

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<v Speaker 3>all of that. I mean, you had a perfect from

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<v Speaker 3>yet we had hand prints, we had knee prints, we

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<v Speaker 3>had you know, footprints, and we had this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this the perfect line of tree breaks going all the

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<v Speaker 3>way up this hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fantastic. I find like that today would would

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<v Speaker 2>just spread like wildfire through the Bigfoot community. That's something

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<v Speaker 2>as important as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it, dude, it was. And that made Bigfoot real

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<v Speaker 3>for me. And after that I was nervous the whole

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<v Speaker 3>time I was up there, you know. But what was

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<v Speaker 3>significant about that as well is where we were. Where

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<v Speaker 3>we were at on that lake was very close to

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<v Speaker 3>the area where they said don't go.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you put two and two together that time

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<v Speaker 2>or is that just yeah, okay, No.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I did because we were going and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, and I realized where we were, and

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<v Speaker 3>following year, the following summer that even made things more

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<v Speaker 3>true to me. The following summer, down on that east

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<v Speaker 3>end of the lake, there was a logging crew and

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<v Speaker 3>they would blog. They were logging this big area we

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<v Speaker 3>are camp. Our blogging place was on the left end.

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<v Speaker 3>They were all the way down on the east end. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>their camp was actually even closer to the area where

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<v Speaker 3>you're not supposed to go, but they weren't logging that area.

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<v Speaker 3>They were logging an area that was just to the

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<v Speaker 3>south of it, but they were very very close to it.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to log camp there and they had about

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen twenty people and stuff, and they were working and

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<v Speaker 3>we would have some interactions with them. Well, there was

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<v Speaker 3>and he was kind of an interesting guy and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>But for some reason, and we don't know why, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that, as I recall, something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But for some reason he felt motivated to actually trespass

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<v Speaker 3>on that ground that you were supposed to stay away

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<v Speaker 3>from in search of some trinkets or something that may

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<v Speaker 3>have value. So we're back at Jenice Bay. We're back

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<v Speaker 3>twelve thirty or whatever. And back in the day, you

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<v Speaker 3>of nov You got radiophones. That's what you got. You

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<v Speaker 3>got radiophones. And it's you know, it's like I'm sleeping

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<v Speaker 3>radio phone starts crackling and you hear, you know, calling

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<v Speaker 3>out five mL seven eight, five months seven eight, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 3>are you there? Pick up? Pick up? Pick up? Pick up,

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<v Speaker 3>pick up. And this frantic guy, this guy just absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>frantic on the radiophone. He says, Jerry, pick up. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know when you always have your radios

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<v Speaker 3>on a case's an emergency, right, So it's like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 3>get you know, got to get up, and what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on? And then my dad gets on the

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<v Speaker 3>radio phone and he goes, he goes, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what's what's going on? Is that you is that? He goes, Jerry, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta come and get us. You gotta come, help us,

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<v Speaker 3>help us, you gotta come and get us. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on? And he's got you got to get

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<v Speaker 3>up to the camp. You got to get us right away.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can hear his wife in the background, the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that's on the radio phone. You can hear his

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<v Speaker 3>wife in the background screaming, and she goes, it's looking

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<v Speaker 3>in the window. It's at the window. It's at the window,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're just as absolute terror. He goes, you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>come and get us. So my Dad's like, well, hold on, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get there. So my here it is Millanite. My

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<v Speaker 3>dad's got to get up. He gets in the truck,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got to drive five miles up this dirt. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got to get in his boat and he has to

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<v Speaker 3>go another ten miles down the lake to get him

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad most fearless man I ever know. He

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<v Speaker 3>did it. I mean he did it. And he goes

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<v Speaker 3>He gets them at about I don't know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>probably about three or four hours later, just before light.

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<v Speaker 3>He comes back to the house and he has them

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<v Speaker 3>there and I'm just watching these people and there's all

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<v Speaker 3>this commotion. They're just crazy and they're screaming, and she

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<v Speaker 3>goes it, what's gonna get is, what's gonna get is

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah blah, and he's like, he sits them

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<v Speaker 3>down and he goes, I told you not to go there.

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<v Speaker 3>You just you went there, didn't you. And he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I had to go there. And he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>what did you take? What did you take? And he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>I just got a few things. I just got a

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<v Speaker 3>few things. And he says, give me everything that you

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<v Speaker 3>have and he gave the stuff to my dad, and

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<v Speaker 3>my dad said, I'll be back later. And he left

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<v Speaker 3>him there and he went all the way back up

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<v Speaker 3>there and he put the stuff back. But when things

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<v Speaker 3>calm down, and what had happened is he had trest.

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<v Speaker 3>He went up into the area where he wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to go. He absconded with some trinkets and whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>know that were left in the you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>burial stuff up there.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the little grave robbing and then yeah he did.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, and what happened is he got back to

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<v Speaker 3>the float camp and he the crew had gone into

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<v Speaker 3>town and they would do that on the weekends. They'd

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<v Speaker 3>gone to town, so it was just him and his

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<v Speaker 3>wife once they got back. He got back, she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>go with him. He got back and as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>it started to get dark, they started hearing these how

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<v Speaker 3>just howling, just wailing right, and it kept getting closer

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<v Speaker 3>and closer, and theyoul get a little bits book and

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<v Speaker 3>then it got it came down and then they heard

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<v Speaker 3>pounding and thumping. It got on the floatouses. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>floathhouses didn't live on land. You have the floatouse. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you make a platform, you build a house on right,

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<v Speaker 3>float camps. And it got on there and it was

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<v Speaker 3>hollern and beaten on the side of the cabin and

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<v Speaker 3>it was just hair rising, a holy all out of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever go to this area where you're not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to go?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because you're a young man, I mean, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's if. I mean, I'd probably do it now, But

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<v Speaker 2>as a young man, I would certainly go wherever I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't because you know, I respect my elders, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, And it's like, dude, this is

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<v Speaker 3>their land, it's not mine. I don't you know what

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<v Speaker 3>We were kind of taught that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>you can go there on the water and you can look.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know what I'm saying. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to throw this out here today and somebody is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be extremely upset, but I wanted to get some

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<v Speaker 3>of this out here and on the ocean side of this,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to stand and look and face up

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<v Speaker 3>at the area where all of this where of this

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<v Speaker 3>succurt It's called Clayton Bay. It's right across you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Hopetown Watson Island, and Watson Island is where Hopetown Indian

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<v Speaker 3>village was, and today it's pretty much a bannon. When

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<v Speaker 3>I was there, there's like three four hundred people there. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, you know, a huge Indian village, but

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<v Speaker 3>today there's just a lodge house there. But that area

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<v Speaker 3>where this occurred, the saltwater side of it, would basically

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<v Speaker 3>be what's called Clayton Bay, which is right across the

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<v Speaker 3>little inlet there, and you can go there today, and

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<v Speaker 3>people do go there today.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally get like you're respecting the area and staying

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<v Speaker 2>out of it and all that sort of stuff, But

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<v Speaker 2>I would definitely want to look at it or get

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<v Speaker 2>close to it to find out what kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>is guarding it. But I guess if everybody knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was a sasquatch, maybe that was enough to keep people away.

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<v Speaker 3>This area today. As recent as two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 3>there people have had encounters with something when they've been

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<v Speaker 3>in that bay that's closest to that mountain area where

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<v Speaker 3>you're not supposed to go. There is something still there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to share this story with you real quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast forward to twenty and seventeen. I'm up on Vancouver

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<v Speaker 3>Island and I'm you know, and I've been coming up

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<v Speaker 3>there for half a year, and people would, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people got work that I was on the island and

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing this and who I was, and oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Major's kid, blah blah blah, he's up there looking

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<v Speaker 3>for sasquatch. Right, And I kind of made my headquarters

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<v Speaker 3>at as Campbell River, and so people would know I

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<v Speaker 3>was at Campbell River and they would come down and

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<v Speaker 3>they would, you know, they would want I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>for people to tell me about recent and calendaries. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't gather intelligence areas to go. So I'm at a

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<v Speaker 3>hotel in Campbell River and this guy comes in and

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<v Speaker 3>he says, man, I want to share something with you.

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<v Speaker 3>And the guy is a was a He drove water taxi.

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<v Speaker 3>And water tax you know, need to either go up there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no road, you get around by a boat or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You can hire a water taxi. And his job was

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<v Speaker 3>to run people back and forth by this particular area

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<v Speaker 3>because there's always some log inn, fisheries or thing that

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<v Speaker 3>are going on in area. Right. It was one fall

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<v Speaker 3>and he dropped off a crew and he was coming

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<v Speaker 3>back and he was tired, and he was like man,

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<v Speaker 3>and the weather was bad because it can get pretty

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to pull in this little bay here, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to you know, I'm going to anchor offshore

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<v Speaker 3>pass right. So he pulls in there and he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know, I put down my anchor and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about, you know, how did you yards offshore maybe

418
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<v Speaker 3>or you know, something like that, and I'm tired. So

419
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<v Speaker 3>he lays down and he's he's just having his snooze,

420
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<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, he said, for some reason,

421
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<v Speaker 3>he just woke up. I mean, he just something made

422
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<v Speaker 3>him wake up. And he sat up, and he's like,

423
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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, man, his hair stand on the

424
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<v Speaker 3>back of his neck and whatever, and he's just, all

425
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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, he's extremely fearful, and he and he

426
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<v Speaker 3>stood up and he looked out the windshield the front

427
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<v Speaker 3>window of the boat standing on. Well. First of all,

428
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<v Speaker 3>he said, the tide had gone out. Why he was

429
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<v Speaker 3>there a little bit, and so he was closer to

430
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<v Speaker 3>the beach than he wasn't. All of a sudden, half

431
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<v Speaker 3>of the beach. He said, it's probably only about fifty

432
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<v Speaker 3>yards of the beach and stay on the beach is

433
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<v Speaker 3>this huge hairy, bipedal beast. He didn't say by petal,

434
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<v Speaker 3>I mean said, dude was just like this huge, flipping

435
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<v Speaker 3>hairy man and it's standing on the beach and it's

436
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<v Speaker 3>looking at him, and it's pacing back and forth, and

437
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<v Speaker 3>it's jumping up and down with his arms and it's

438
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<v Speaker 3>going e it's just roaring at him, and it's like

439
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<v Speaker 3>just like it's frustrated, and he's trying to figure out

440
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<v Speaker 3>how it can get to his boat and it's gonna

441
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<v Speaker 3>kill him, and it's just anyways, and and this guy,

442
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting here and this guy is shaking man and

443
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<v Speaker 3>he could just he's white telling me this story. So anyways,

444
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<v Speaker 3>he's like this thing gonna he's gonna get out here,

445
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<v Speaker 3>and he's closer and all this stuff. So what he did,

446
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<v Speaker 3>he said, he started his boat and just gunned it

447
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<v Speaker 3>backwards bom and he's dragging his anchor and he got

448
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<v Speaker 3>far enough out into some deeper water to where he

449
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<v Speaker 3>felt relatively comfortable that he reached over and he pulled

450
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<v Speaker 3>in his anchor and he just hauled ass out of there.

451
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<v Speaker 3>And he said behind him. He looked behind him, and

452
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<v Speaker 3>that thing would just pay you know what I'm saying,

453
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<v Speaker 3>like you see a crazy gorilla. When they would throw

454
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<v Speaker 3>him blow get you. He could throw it around and

455
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<v Speaker 3>then he had past it. You know what I'm saying.

456
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<v Speaker 3>That was yeah, December twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, and

457
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<v Speaker 3>that's in the same area, so it's still there. You know.

458
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<v Speaker 2>That's something that I've seen over the years, is that

459
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<v Speaker 2>places that once held sasquatches do still hold sasquatches if

460
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<v Speaker 2>the area has not changed significantly. And I mean when

461
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<v Speaker 2>I say change, what I really mean by that is

462
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<v Speaker 2>essentially paving. As long as you don't pave in areas

463
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<v Speaker 2>or develop it or to start, you know, build too

464
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<v Speaker 2>many houses or something in the area, the sasquatches are

465
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<v Speaker 2>still going to be there. And this is to an

466
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<v Speaker 2>extreme example. I was talking to Moneymaker one time and

467
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<v Speaker 2>he was telling me that he was running an expedition

468
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<v Speaker 2>in Florida and they ran into sasquatches, And upon further

469
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<v Speaker 2>investigation and research, they found that there were reports in

470
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<v Speaker 2>that same area, literally in that same area from the

471
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<v Speaker 2>late eighteen hundreds. So sasquatches hang out in the same area,

472
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<v Speaker 2>and that's also something that the more modern data is

473
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<v Speaker 2>yielding as well. One of our study areas at the

474
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<v Speaker 2>north of big Foot Center, we are getting footprints, actually

475
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<v Speaker 2>both two of our three of our areas, we're getting

476
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<v Speaker 2>footprints and finding sign like within just a few miles

477
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<v Speaker 2>and in some cases within just a few feet. Last

478
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<v Speaker 2>August I cast a footprint, actually I cast a series

479
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<v Speaker 2>of footprints down off the Clacamus River and uh and

480
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<v Speaker 2>this past May I found footprints within five feet of

481
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<v Speaker 2>where I cast them the previous August. So and certainly

482
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<v Speaker 2>in a larger area, you know, I say a five

483
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<v Speaker 2>or ten you know mile area, they're hanging out there,

484
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>because if they're they're there once, that means there's resources there,

485
00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.640
<v Speaker 2>and if that area doesn't change significantly, those resources are

486
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<v Speaker 2>probably still going to be there years, if not decades later.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Here's a question I have for you. I've got an

488
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<v Speaker 3>area here unless I'm gonna use this for example there

489
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<v Speaker 3>that I just spoke to you about it there now

490
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<v Speaker 3>I can continually go back up there. But I don't

491
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<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm yielding any result. You know what I'm saying.

492
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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I'm not. I'm kind of stumped after these

493
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<v Speaker 3>all these years of running up there to this particular area.

494
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<v Speaker 3>But I'm comfortable there because I know the area stuff

495
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<v Speaker 3>like that. But we here, we have a particular area

496
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<v Speaker 3>where historically, and like you have as well, what can

497
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<v Speaker 3>I do, in your opinion, to take it to the

498
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<v Speaker 3>next level to where we could actually get something more definitive.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this, what have you been doing?

500
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<v Speaker 3>Well, what I've been doing is I've been doing the

501
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<v Speaker 3>same same thing. That about the only thing I know

502
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<v Speaker 3>how to do. You go out to an area, you

503
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<v Speaker 3>spend some time there. Well, you go up what I've

504
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:42.920
<v Speaker 3>been doing, identifying area where there's been ongoing and reoccurring sideings.

505
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<v Speaker 3>And my thought was, well, I'm going to go in

506
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<v Speaker 3>an area where there's that would yield me the highest

507
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<v Speaker 3>likelihood of having an encounter with a sasquatch, and this

508
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<v Speaker 3>particular area, you know, it's one of those areas where

509
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<v Speaker 3>it seems that you've got something aggressive it's continually there,

510
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<v Speaker 3>and have a confrontation that allows you to get the

511
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<v Speaker 3>to get the definitive evidence that you need rather than

512
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<v Speaker 3>just getting hair samples, DNA and casting tracks.

513
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<v Speaker 2>I guess right, But have you been have you been

514
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<v Speaker 2>casting Prince and getting DNA samples and winter or is

515
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<v Speaker 2>that the next level you're trying to get to.

516
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<v Speaker 3>No, my next level is I guess my next I've

517
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<v Speaker 3>done that. I've done those things, but other people are

518
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<v Speaker 3>doing those things. So I don't think that I need

519
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<v Speaker 3>to do those things because I think, I guess what

520
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<v Speaker 3>I'm beating around the bush. I guess what my point is.

521
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<v Speaker 3>What I think is that we've reached a stage in

522
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<v Speaker 3>the games here where we need a body.

523
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, although are you aware of the DNA study that

524
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<v Speaker 2>the new DNA study that's passed sponsored by University North Carolina.

525
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<v Speaker 2>We had Darby or Cut on our podcast, I think

526
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<v Speaker 2>just last week, and this seems to hold a great

527
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<v Speaker 2>deal of hope for discovering the speed or recognizing the species.

528
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<v Speaker 3>So no, no, actually I'm not I'll have to check

529
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<v Speaker 3>that out. I'm not familiar with that.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a new DNA study that holds a lot

531
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of promise, whereas I never really did feel the other

532
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>ones did. Once you know they're there at the beginning,

533
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we're all hopeful, but at the end of the day,

534
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>it seems like the other ones weren't quite what they

535
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 2>were intended to be. But this one seems Legit seems

536
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 2>to be on the up and up, and I'm putting

537
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<v Speaker 2>my voice behind it as best I can and trying

538
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>to gather samples.

539
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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

540
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<v Speaker 2>So our listeners, and also for you, Stephen, I feel

541
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.880
<v Speaker 2>free to go back at last week and you can

542
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<v Speaker 2>take a listen, because I think this might actually be

543
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>very promising. A body will be needed, sure, a body

544
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>will be needed, but maybe, hopefully not, maybe this DNA

545
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>thing can get it done. I don't strongly advocate for

546
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.039
<v Speaker 2>taking a body, even though I do know those are

547
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>the rules. I didn't write them, but those are the

548
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>rules for recognizing new species. It's just that I would

549
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<v Speaker 2>be optimistic, perhaps one of these rare moments of optimism

550
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>from Cliff, that that perhaps we can get this done

551
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>without taking a specimen. I don't. I'm not sure that

552
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>can happen, but if there's a chance, I'm willing to

553
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>take it because I'm not going to show one. You know,

554
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm a danger to myself and others if I'm carrying

555
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>around a huge Oh.

556
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<v Speaker 3>I definitely wouldn't do that either. I wasn't advocating that.

557
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, But so hopefully, hopefully trace evidence something

558
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 2>like body parts like hair or flesh samples or blood samples,

559
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>that would get it done. I think at this point

560
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>according to Darby or cut our guest last week and

561
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 2>who's heading the study. So I don't know, I think

562
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>that might be a good game changer. But how do

563
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<v Speaker 2>you get those things? I guess is the next question?

564
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because what my what what I want to do

565
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 3>is I want to capture one.

566
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<v Speaker 2>Capture How would how would you do that?

567
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's possible. I think it's possible,

568
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 3>given given if you can create a situation to where

569
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<v Speaker 3>it exposes itself in such a way because you've enraged

570
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>it so much that it's going to try to kill

571
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>you and then it's going to get entrapped. Why, basically

572
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.720
<v Speaker 3>a person is bait. I think you could do it.

573
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<v Speaker 2>What would you do to make it so mad?

574
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know. You know, but a

575
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of people in your listen, they're going to laugh

576
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>at this. But you know where I'm at in the

577
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 3>game right now is I'm going to capture one. My energy,

578
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.720
<v Speaker 3>My energy is going to be my energy, and resources

579
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 3>is going is going into developing, creating, a few possibilities

580
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 3>on capturing one. I think you could do it.

581
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

582
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Bogo will be right back after these messages. No, No,

583
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<v Speaker 2>would capturing also entails, say tranquilizing one or something or

584
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>because one of the things that people ask me is like,

585
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>whoa why do not try to capture one? And I've

586
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 2>thought about it. I've spent some time thinking about it,

587
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 2>and like, how do you capture something that's twelve hundred

588
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>pounds has a strength of fifteen or twenty men and

589
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>not just weak men, because I have the strength of

590
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 2>ten men, but they're very, very weak men, twenty like

591
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>extordainately strong men, all wrapped into one horrifying package. That's

592
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty smart, you know, way smarter than bears, way smarter

593
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>than bears. And a lot of bears are smarter than

594
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the dumbest of tourists. So like, how do you do that?

595
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Like what is I mean clearly not a spike pit

596
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, or and bear traps they don't

597
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>work on this sort of thing.

598
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Other I've actually come I've actually been working with somebody

599
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 3>and we've come up with a number of entrapment devices

600
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 3>that just may possibly work. But you know what I

601
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 3>was thinking, is okay, I described as scenario for you

602
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 3>where that really occurred, where someone had trespassed, had taken

603
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 3>something they shouldn't, it tracked them, it was enraged, and

604
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 3>it came after them. They just didn't know how to

605
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 3>react to it. So they called my dad to come

606
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>save them. Now, let's say you could recreate recreate that

607
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of scenario, but without the sasquatch knowing that you're

608
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 3>going to try to.

609
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<v Speaker 2>Get them, So you'd have to It sounds like in

610
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<v Speaker 2>this particular, like this specific scenario, you'd have to get

611
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<v Speaker 2>like tribal permission.

612
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, yes, Yeah, I mean that's a given. Well, yeah,

613
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 3>that's a given.

614
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that loan would be tough. But I mean,

615
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to the poop on your parade or anything.

616
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just I'm thinking out loud with you.

617
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<v Speaker 2>Think of me as troubleshooting, not shooting down your idea.

618
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<v Speaker 3>By the way, No, and that's good because I'm just

619
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<v Speaker 3>I'm throwing this stuff out because I'm frustrated with what

620
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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing for the last five years. You know

621
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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying I don't really care. You know, it's time. Okay,

622
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 3>how many more track castings do I personally want? You know?

623
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<v Speaker 3>And I'm speaking for me because I'm not, you know,

624
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 3>like I say, well, yeah, I do Bigfoot research, but

625
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 3>really I don't. I mean, maybe I do, but really

626
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 3>my whole goal is I'm hunting. I'm going you know,

627
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm hunting Sasqua. I'm hunting him. I want to catch

628
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 3>up with him. I want to have a serious encounter

629
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 3>with the guy. You know, I want to figure you

630
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 3>know that. That's really what I'm after is chasing down

631
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 3>interactions and encounters with Sasquatch. And that's why focus on

632
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>the areas that I have, especially on the BC coast

633
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and going into Port Chatham, Alaska. Like Port Chatham, Alaska,

634
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 3>the reason we went there is it was a high

635
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 3>likelihood of a serious confrontation based on lower and legend

636
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>and historical stuff.

637
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, you know, let's talk about por Chatham

638
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. So give us a little background in

639
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>por Chatham for our listeners who may not know that

640
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 2>much about it, and then tell us about your role

641
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in well in putting it back on the map, so.

642
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 3>To speak, for those that may be unaware. Port Chatham, Alaska,

643
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>is on the northern tip of the Keynye Peninsula, the

644
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 3>end of the Keynye Peninsula catchmc Bay. It is very remote,

645
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 3>but it's essentially forty five miles by boat down catch

646
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Mec Bay from Homer, Alaska. And it was in seventeen

647
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>eighty six Nathaniel Port Locke's a British guy explorer. They

648
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 3>found it a little like fur trading there or whatever,

649
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.279
<v Speaker 3>and then it grew into a fishing village, and then

650
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 3>it grew into a cannary and had a huge cannery

651
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 3>there that they had built. And so it went from

652
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 3>fur trading to salmon processing, cannery stuff, and it ran

653
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 3>up until essentially nineteen fifty. But over that time, starting

654
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>in like the I think the first death occurred and

655
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 3>recorded death occurred somewhere around, you know, between nineteen ten

656
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 3>and nineteen twenty. But legend has it that they have

657
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 3>a creature in the area there that's called the Nantaock,

658
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 3>which is essentially their version of a sasquatch. That's not

659
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>means like Harry Man or Harry Beast or something like that.

660
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 3>While long in the short of it is that the

661
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 3>town was eventually after a number of mysterious deaths, people

662
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 3>being ripped apart, disappearing, finding body parts, you know stuff,

663
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 3>people just getting ripped to shreds when they go out.

664
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>That people were afraid, the natives were afraid, who were

665
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 3>primarily the ones that worked in the cannery. So they

666
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 3>completely closed the place and everybody abandoned it in nineteen

667
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 3>fifty and no one ever went back. And it's probably

668
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 3>the most horrific story related to, you know, a sasquatch

669
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 3>type of deal ever, because there were so many factual,

670
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>factual basis for it. There you can find reports that

671
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 3>people were killed under my serious circumstances, people went missing.

672
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of documentation. They even had information

673
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 3>that was taken out of the cannery manager's log where

674
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, certain dates this appen and blah blah blah

675
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. So anyway, so the town was essentially

676
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 3>abandoned in nineteen fifty. People say the postmaster was the

677
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 3>last guy to leave or whatever. But they abandoned the

678
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 3>town and they moved moved out of there up a bit,

679
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 3>and so the place was like bad menacing man. I mean,

680
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 3>the story. People will talk about it for seventy years

681
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 3>everybody's talking about the story about this evil place, and

682
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>then people did shows about it and all that, but

683
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>no one ever went out there. They were afraid. So

684
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm on Vancouver islandm lining my own business to my

685
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.160
<v Speaker 3>sasquatch stuff up there, you know, and I get an

686
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 3>email from a guy and he says, hey, man, you

687
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 3>ever hear the story of Port chattam Alaska. You ought

688
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 3>to go check this out. And that was in two

689
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 3>thousand and you know, beginning to twenty eighteen. And I

690
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 3>was absolutely fascinated by the story, absolutely fascinated in the

691
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>fact that no one had been there. So I started

692
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 3>doing all this research and decided that, man, this sounds

693
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 3>like the perfect place to go, a perfect place to

694
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>go because you evidently have something there that chase people away.

695
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 3>It's aggressive, the likelihood of having a serious encounter is

696
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 3>off the chart. So I gotta go, gotta go. But

697
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 3>it took me about you know, once I put the

698
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 3>plan in motion, it took me about six seven months

699
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 3>just to get permission to go in there.

700
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.360
<v Speaker 2>And why is that, like, what kind of like permission

701
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>did you need?

702
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 3>You don't I want? As soon as I found out

703
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that it was the land was owned by owned by

704
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>one of the native tribes and set yeah. And secondly,

705
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 3>it is a new Native historical site, which is another thing.

706
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 3>So I wanted to make sure that, you know, I'm

707
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 3>not going on somebody's land without their permission and whatnot.

708
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.840
<v Speaker 3>And but dude, let me tell you, it took six

709
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.199
<v Speaker 3>months to figure out to finally get in contact with

710
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 3>those people in authority that that would allow me to

711
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 3>go out there. And here's an interesting fact about it too.

712
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Once people in the area that had relatives that had

713
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 3>grown up in Port Chatham, Alaska, you know, before it

714
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 3>was abandoned, there were some people that I think there's

715
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 3>even might be a couple maybe that are still alive

716
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 3>that actually were children there. But I started getting flooded

717
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 3>with calls and emails from people saying, don't go there.

718
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 3>You go there, you're going to die, It's cursed, it's

719
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 3>an evil place. Stay away from there. And then I

720
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>even got a few threats of my life if I

721
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 3>did decide to go there. I mean, dude, it was

722
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 3>terrible and it was like holy smokers, man, and it's

723
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 3>like people were there just tear petrified. They didn't want

724
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 3>anybody going there because they thought that it might rekindle

725
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 3>the n ant TOOC. I mean, I got some weird

726
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 3>phone calls and I got a lot of emails to

727
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 3>that regard, but I also was able to talk with

728
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 3>some people that gave me realistically, you know, what it

729
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 3>was like and what's going there. So anyway, so we

730
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 3>got permission to go in there, and that's where Adam

731
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Davis comes in.

732
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Adams of course a great friend of ours

733
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and hers being everybody, but he's also been on the

734
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>podcast before. He and just love the guy. Loved the

735
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 2>guy to bits, you know.

736
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 3>So I wasn't going to go in there. I wasn't

737
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 3>going to go in there by myself. So I'm said, okay,

738
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 3>well now I got to start thinking about who I

739
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 3>want to go with, right And you know, this was

740
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 3>before things really started rolling. It was it was very fortuitous.

741
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I met Adam up up in Campbell River. It was

742
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of a weird. He just happened to be up there.

743
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 3>He with somebody else that I knew, and he put

744
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 3>us together and I said, hey, man, I said, this

745
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 3>is all great and dandy here on Van, but let

746
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>me tell you about port Lock, Alaska. Would you like to.

747
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Go yeah, I think Adam has ever said no to

748
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 2>anything like that.

749
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, I remember He's like, bloody hell, yes, you

750
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>know that kind of thing. But then we could, you know,

751
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>we put things together from there, and uh man, June.

752
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 3>The June that following June, we went and we thought, well,

753
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 3>we'll just flying too Homer. Man, we'll charter a boat

754
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and we'll go out there, right and well we get

755
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 3>we get to Homer and it's like we're trying to

756
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 3>find somebody to take us out there. No one wanted

757
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 3>to take us out there.

758
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 2>So everyone knew where it was, but no one was

759
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>willing to do it.

760
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 3>They were not willing to do it. And people said,

761
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 3>if you go out there, you're gonna die. You don't

762
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 3>want to go out there, and I don't want to

763
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 3>go out there with you, and blah blah blah blah blah.

764
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh man, okay, well I guess that

765
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 3>both things out. So then I start calling, you know,

766
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>like helicopters and all these charter planes. Right, well, I

767
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 3>guess we'll fly out there. We'll go with plan B.

768
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 3>Nobody even wanted to fly us out there, and through

769
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 3>some weird circumstances at the same hit the bar at

770
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 3>the Salty Dog. Somebody over her is talking and we

771
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 3>a gentleman says, well, I'll take you out there.

772
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like a movie or something like that.

773
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 3>So seriously, because we were just, we were just and

774
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 3>he was like he was a wild man. He's like, yeah,

775
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll take you out there. So anyways, and so great.

776
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>So we worked out a deal with him, and the

777
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 3>next morning we got up early and drove us out

778
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.119
<v Speaker 3>to you know, took us out there, and man, it's

779
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>forty two miles. I don't seen that long, but I'm

780
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 3>both you know, it's like two hours.

781
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's forever on a boat. Yeah. Yeah, because if

782
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you're doing ten or fifteen knots per hour on the water,

783
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you're going pretty fast.

784
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So anyways, and so man, we're just, you know,

785
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 3>and we're nervous too. You don't get me wrong. I'm

786
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 3>nervous too because we don't know what to expect. But

787
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 3>dude went for us to go out there, to me

788
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 3>in the Bigfoot research world or whatever I mean, for

789
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 3>me or whatever I can under I kind of could

790
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 3>relate to what those guys felt like. The first of

791
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.039
<v Speaker 3>paulm that landed on the Moon. I mean, to me,

792
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 3>it was like that, because here we are, we're going

793
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 3>to a place that just people have been so petrified

794
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 3>to this place. No one's gone out here for seventy

795
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 3>flipping years, you know, and all this, and here we are,

796
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 3>and we're going to be the first, you know. And

797
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.320
<v Speaker 3>so anyway, so he takes us out, you know, we

798
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 3>take that boat right out there, and I just remember

799
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 3>it was in June, and it was near the winter

800
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.360
<v Speaker 3>summer solstice, and we the weather we got with just

801
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was exquisite. It was beautiful. The trip

802
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 3>was out there, and we pulled into this bay and

803
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 3>we're just looking around and you're like, oh, okay, we're

804
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of orienting ourselves with us where okay we see

805
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and then you see the little building, you know, so

806
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 3>you kind of figured out where we were at. We

807
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 3>had a map and all that. But he takes us

808
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 3>in there and it was, dude, it was absolutely gorgeous day.

809
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 3>I just remember that, and the place was just full

810
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.480
<v Speaker 3>of sea otters, you know, big sea otters rolling around

811
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 3>there long. And the short of it is the boat guy,

812
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 3>we kind of orient ourselves where we're at the where

813
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 3>the old town was, and we he did a little

814
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 3>looking around there and then we're like, okay, where's he

815
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 3>going to drop us off? Because basically gonna drop us

816
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 3>he's going to come back and get us in three days.

817
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 3>So we found a spit and he was happy to

818
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 3>kick us off the boat and he said, hey, by

819
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the way, do you guys have a satellite phone? We

820
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 3>said no, and he goes, what's wrong with you? And

821
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.079
<v Speaker 3>he gave us a satellite phone. He said every twelve hours,

822
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.320
<v Speaker 3>I want you to text me all is well? And

823
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 3>then he boogeed and got out of there and it

824
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 3>was just me and Adam and Jill Sier cameraman.

825
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Wow, wow, the cameraman. So that's something to note too,

826
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 2>is that people can actually see this adventure for themselves

827
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>because you produced a documentary out of it.

828
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, that was the follow up one, but the

829
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 3>recon was a three day thing. And I'm going I'm sorry,

830
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm a little long here, but what I have to

831
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 3>tell you is this. We didn't sleep the whole time.

832
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 3>When I say that, literally we were scared. There was

833
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>so much anxiety and we were scared and we were

834
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 3>on edge, and so we didn't even sleep the first,

835
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, we would all and eight every couple hours.

836
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, someone could get a twenty minute nap. But

837
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 3>we were constant on guard and we're very vision because

838
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.639
<v Speaker 3>we didn't know what to expect well.

839
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And also and I know that the place is clearly

840
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 2>has some bad juju going on, you know, like there's

841
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>there's some there's legends about this place that like this

842
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>whole thing has been built up in your mind. But

843
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>on top of that, there's a real possibility that there's

844
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 2>a The sasquatches there have learned that they can chase

845
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 2>people away and be terrible to them. But correct me

846
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.599
<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong. But there are brown bears there too, right.

847
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Dude, there are Let me tell you something I've never

848
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.400
<v Speaker 3>The highest concentration of black bears is on the Kenai

849
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Peninsula and in Alaska, right, and then there is those

850
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 3>huge Kodiak brown bears. And when we were hiking around,

851
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 3>when we were walking around the old town side of

852
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Port Chatham, Alaska, there was so much bear scat. I

853
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 3>mean it was like you thought that there must have

854
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 3>been a whole town of bear there. It's everywhere, and man,

855
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>and then we stumbled across a brown bear track that

856
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 3>was the hugest bear track I'd ever seen in my

857
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 3>entire life. And we never ran into any of them.

858
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 3>But I remember when we one morning when we went

859
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 3>in there here, one of the piles was still steaming.

860
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 3>It was huge. But there were bears everywhere.

861
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 2>And you never saw one though you never saw one.

862
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Thank god. Well I did see one, not on this trip.

863
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>To me, that's almost scarier because you knew that you were,

864
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 2>you were there, you were in the middle of it.

865
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>They were around, maybe not fifty of them, but there

866
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>were a handful of these things around and you never

867
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>saw one. To me, that's almost creepier.

868
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.159
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that we and you're bringing up

869
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 3>a good point, and this is overlooked and even sometimes

870
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 3>I forget about it. But we did note some interesting

871
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 3>things when we were there. And one of the things

872
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 3>that we noted was there seemed to be a division

873
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:57.679
<v Speaker 3>of land. There seemed to be a barrier between have

874
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 3>like split the kind of spl it half of port

875
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 3>locked Port Chatham, where the bears did not go like

876
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 3>we're we're hiking around and we hiked originally we hiked

877
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 3>like we did. Somebody had one of listenings where you

878
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 3>keep tracted, but we did like eight point six miles.

879
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean seriously, we were covering some ground because we

880
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.639
<v Speaker 3>had a limited, limited part of time be there. But

881
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that we did notice is there

882
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 3>there is an area that once you crossed this invisible barrier,

883
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 3>there was zero bear sign. It's like the bears did

884
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 3>not go there and which which was odd, but we

885
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>know it was almost you know, we noticed it after

886
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 3>a little bit because it's like, that's strange. Why is

887
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 3>all this bear sign and bear tracks and bear poop

888
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 3>and they're eating all the berries, But then you get

889
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 3>over on this side and and there's no bearrier. I

890
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 3>mean there's berries everywhere there. Bears haven't touched them. There's

891
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 3>absolutely no We haven't come across any bears gat no

892
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 3>bear tracks or anything that is odd.

893
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>That is odd. Yeah, what did you what did you

894
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>find on that side of the track, so to speak,

895
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 2>like what did you find in the no bear zone

896
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 2>that gave you some idea apps what what what that

897
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>was all about?

898
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.760
<v Speaker 3>When we were in the no bearri zone. Okay, there

899
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 3>was a couple of things that we noticed. One of

900
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 3>them is the no bearrizone bordered the there's a lagoon,

901
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 3>and this is a lagoon where allegedly they found body parts,

902
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, ripped up body parts that washed down in

903
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>a slagoon. And the No Bear Zone was the area

904
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 3>that bordered that lagoon. And secondly, when we were hiking

905
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 3>around that area, first of all, we kind of got

906
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 3>the feeling that something was watching us, you know how

907
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 3>you get kind of get that feeling. But secondly, we

908
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 3>kept hearing this a little running and stop running and

909
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 3>stop running and stop.

910
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Foot foot like foot poundings or kind of.

911
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, And and it was up the ridge, you know,

912
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 3>it was behind us, but as we moved in a circular,

913
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 3>it stayed on the ridge kind of above us but

914
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.440
<v Speaker 3>arallel this and I never it was really think, you know,

915
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and so we don't know, but we kept hearing it,

916
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 3>and there was something there. I don't know what it was,

917
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 3>but there was something there.

918
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

919
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after these messages. I think I

920
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.280
<v Speaker 2>caught a little bit of one of these documentaries that

921
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you were in about this. And if I remember right,

922
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the ground is basically padded moss everywhere you look, so

923
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of opportunity for subs for tracks

924
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and good substrate.

925
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, no, there isn't. There isn't. Subsequent to this,

926
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 3>after we'd exhausted, Okay, because I've been there three times

927
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.119
<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to confuse, and a couple of trips,

928
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 3>so I'm going to back up real quick. And then

929
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 3>the trip that I did with Adam when we went

930
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>in there. If you haven't seen the flur video that

931
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 3>was captured during that trip, I highly recommend it. You

932
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 3>can see it. It's available on episode two of the

933
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Alaska Triangle. We actually provided it to him.

934
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh I was on that show, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah,

935
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>that's right. You were not in that episode, of course,

936
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I was on that. I was on that series.

937
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah. And by the way, I have film of

938
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 3>when that actually occurred and when, and I was looking

939
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.480
<v Speaker 3>at it the other day. Basically, what was caught on

940
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.840
<v Speaker 3>that flur was some Adam was doing, you know, some

941
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 3>of his calling. You know what I'm saying, how he

942
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 3>does that? Right, Because we were trying to it was

943
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.119
<v Speaker 3>getting to be our last night there, and you know,

944
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 3>it's dark and everything and and whatnot, and and all

945
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.199
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden he started doing that. We thought we

946
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 3>heard something coming from way up on this ridge. We

947
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 3>thought we heard something. So it immediately I've got the

948
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 3>flur and uh and and we're looking up there and

949
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 3>we're handing the flair back and forth whatever, and I'm going, look,

950
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and I noticed something and that it's something came over

951
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 3>the top of the ridge and started coming down, and

952
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm going, holy crap. And anyways, and so I gave it,

953
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, I said, Adam, take a look at this man,

954
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and you know, when he's got it and he's flirting

955
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 3>up there and this thing, it was like, comes running

956
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 3>over the top of hill. Appears that way came over

957
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the top of hill and started coming down the ridge.

958
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, it appeared to be by Pete whatever.

959
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 3>And anyways, it was, and Joe Siah's actually filming this

960
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 3>as it's occurring, and here it is, and I, like

961
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I said, I was just looking at it, and you

962
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 3>can actually see the fear in my face. And then

963
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 3>I started telling him stop yelling, you know, stop doing

964
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 3>your thing, stop doing your calling, because whatever it is,

965
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you've irritated it, you've agitated it, and I don't want

966
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.320
<v Speaker 3>it coming down any farther. Down that hill. So anyways,

967
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.199
<v Speaker 3>there's a good clip of that Flair video that they

968
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 3>have on that show. When we did the first movie,

969
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 3>when we came back in September eight of twenty eighteen,

970
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 3>and we did actually shot the movie Search of the

971
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Port Chatham Harryman. During that trip, we did find some

972
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 3>tracks and we but you know what I'm saying, We

973
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>did find some really good impressions and we try to

974
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 3>show them the best that we can in the film,

975
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 3>but they weren't really anything that was was castable. But

976
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 3>we did find those and when we were following those

977
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>up into what I called the Valley of Death. You

978
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.800
<v Speaker 3>follow them up into this wooded area and it's and

979
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 3>it's a valley, but it opens up into a really

980
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 3>grassy metal once you get through the woods. We had

981
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 3>identified the trackway and we started following it. We kind

982
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 3>of spread out and we're going up there and I

983
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 3>called the Valley of Death. I have to give names

984
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to everything, because you know, they said people would go

985
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 3>up the valley and they would never come back. You know,

986
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:49.719
<v Speaker 3>that was part of the legend. But as you're going

987
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 3>up the valley, there's this thing had it was they

988
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.920
<v Speaker 3>were very, very fresh because as it's going up through

989
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 3>the hills, you know, you could see the fresh dirt

990
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 3>where it's toes were grabbing, and we managed it was

991
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.360
<v Speaker 3>about fourteen inches and there was actually a couple imprints

992
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 3>and where it stepped on a log, and then after

993
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:06.880
<v Speaker 3>that it would just started running up the hill right

994
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 3>and you could see the stride and where the toes

995
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 3>had dug into the dirt. And we were right behind

996
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 3>this thing, and it was in the morning, and we're

997
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.840
<v Speaker 3>following up up that valley there, and we're kind of

998
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>spread out in like a wedge formation. You know, Beans

999
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 3>is up front, but he's to the right, and I'm

1000
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 3>on one side of this valley and We're coming up

1001
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 3>and as we're going up that trackway, I'm looking to forward,

1002
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 3>but out of the corner of my eye, something darts

1003
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 3>in between two trees. And it was just quick, and

1004
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>there was a gap of about twenty feet in between

1005
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 3>two trees, and something very tall and gray and lanky, lanky,

1006
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 3>due just darted between two trees and I just caught

1007
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 3>a profile of it. I immediately said, stopped, everybody. I said,

1008
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 3>holy bleep, bleep, bleep, I whatever, don't move, man. I

1009
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 3>just saw something dart between two trees, and I called

1010
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.679
<v Speaker 3>there in the radio and they said, get over here, man,

1011
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 3>because I just saw something. We're on the trail of something.

1012
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 3>But here was the interesting thing. I'm like, what's it doing?

1013
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 3>What's a doing? And the valley that we were going into,

1014
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:12.679
<v Speaker 3>Ashley was a dead end.

1015
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, some sort of box canyon sort of, Yes.

1016
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 3>It was a box canyon. And so we're moving forward.

1017
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 3>We're we're on the trail of whatever this thing is

1018
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.039
<v Speaker 3>and we're moving forward and it turns out it's a

1019
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 3>box canyon, and I'm like, what's this thing going to do? Well?

1020
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:28.320
<v Speaker 3>It had two choices. It was either we were going

1021
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 3>to run it into the rock. We're going to run

1022
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 3>it to the dead end and then or it's going

1023
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:35.320
<v Speaker 3>to you know, so what it is. It made a

1024
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 3>break for it. We were pushing it up there that

1025
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 3>was running out of room, and so just that whatever

1026
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 3>it was decided to make a get around us. It

1027
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:44.440
<v Speaker 3>was either that or he's going to come out on

1028
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 3>the beach. That was your only option. It's going to

1029
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 3>run dead end a We're going to chase you right

1030
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 3>out of the beach. And it made a break for

1031
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 3>it and just got around behind us. That that was it.

1032
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 3>And then for subsequently Beans Beans got some short but

1033
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 3>really good flour video. I recommend you check it out.

1034
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 3>He got some muffler So that that was that trip.

1035
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 3>That that was that was.

1036
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Exciting, not bad not bad footprints, uh part of all

1037
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 2>but sure sighting you know, that's that's pretty cool, plus

1038
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of flair video. Sounds like a super

1039
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 2>successful expedition and that and that was the part of

1040
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:22.119
<v Speaker 2>this documentary in Search of the Port Chatham Harryman correct.

1041
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 2>So you can see all this. You can see this

1042
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>as a kind of.

1043
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Is it's it's a long movie, but we try to

1044
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 3>cover it stuff. But there's a lot of people they

1045
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.320
<v Speaker 3>they they're not watching the entire movie, but yeah, no,

1046
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.079
<v Speaker 3>it's in there. And and check out the flour video.

1047
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 3>The clip of the flour video. We show the impressions

1048
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 3>there and some other things, but it's pretty good stuff.

1049
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Intummation on the Port Chatham thing. Subsequent to this, you know,

1050
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 3>we came up and we redid the episode for the

1051
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Travel Channel for you know, for their series. We came

1052
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 3>back a third time, so I've been in there three times.

1053
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Who came back and we did that the following May,

1054
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:03.239
<v Speaker 3>and that was me twenty nineteen. By that time, we

1055
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 3>had covered that area there pretty well. I mean pretty well,

1056
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>but we could never really stay more than you know,

1057
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 3>three four days at a time, right, one of the

1058
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 3>things that was significant. And I put this out and

1059
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 3>and I was really disappointed because when we were following

1060
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 3>those that track way up the Valley of Death, it

1061
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.960
<v Speaker 3>was heading up to that bost canyon where it kind

1062
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.559
<v Speaker 3>of ended and then it goes up eight hundred and

1063
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 3>forty feet and it's it's almost straight up. It's almost

1064
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.440
<v Speaker 3>straight up, and there's a stream that runs down through there.

1065
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 3>But up on top of that is a lake. It's

1066
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 3>there's a lake up there, and I called the Lake

1067
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 3>of No Return because people would you know, that was

1068
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 3>one of the areas where people would go and not

1069
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.480
<v Speaker 3>come back as well, because that's where the dull sheep were,

1070
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, because it kind of has this ring around it.

1071
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 3>But we sent a drone up there. We sent a

1072
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 3>drone up there to scout and see what is up there.

1073
00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 3>And when you get up there where plateaus, there's that

1074
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 3>lake there, and three quarters of it is just straight

1075
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 3>cliffs up and down and kind of like rock slights,

1076
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 3>and then it has a flat area like a bench.

1077
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 3>But what we spotted up there appeared to be could

1078
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 3>be potentially cave entrances in the cliff side up there.

1079
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 3>We never we were going to do a follow up trip.

1080
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.000
<v Speaker 3>If I was ever to go back into Port Chatham, Alaska,

1081
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 3>that's all I would do is I'd go up there,

1082
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 3>and I would chopper and I would land up there

1083
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 3>and spend a few days right there and investigate that.

1084
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 3>And so we were finished in twenty nineteen. Then they

1085
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 3>came in and they did that show Alaska Killer Bigfoot,

1086
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 3>and they spent a month or whatever in Port Chatham,

1087
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 3>right and no one they didn't even bother to go

1088
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 3>up there.

1089
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Some missed opportunity. Well that was their first time in there,

1090
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>of course, right, So, and they weren't building upon what

1091
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 2>you had done already. Yeah.

1092
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they they got a lot of information, you know,

1093
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:58.159
<v Speaker 3>from watching all the things that we did, and some

1094
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 3>of it they incorporated into their show to a degree,

1095
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 3>which is evident. But they never did follow through with that,

1096
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 3>which was a real disappointment. So the reason I'm putting

1097
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 3>this out is this, if anybody's gonna bother going back

1098
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 3>into Port Chatham, Alaska. Please complete the mission and go

1099
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 3>up there to that lake, because I think that's really

1100
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:21.440
<v Speaker 3>the only area that wasn't covered that well, it wasn't

1101
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 3>covered no one ever went there. And secondly, that's probably

1102
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.639
<v Speaker 3>a good opportunity to explore because of some of the

1103
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 3>historical stuff belt when people at the doll Sheep are

1104
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 3>up there. And secondly, there could be what appeared to

1105
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 3>be some cave entrances where something could live in a cave.

1106
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like that's more than enough reason to go back

1107
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 2>and go check out that particular area.

1108
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I encourage somebody to do it.

1109
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Stephen, we have a I don't know

1110
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>if you can stick around a little bit longer. We

1111
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.119
<v Speaker 2>do have a membership side of things. I'd like to

1112
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.360
<v Speaker 2>speak to you more about this particular area, some of

1113
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 2>your other adventures, and even some of your personal sightings

1114
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>that I know you've had but we didn't mention for

1115
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>some reason in this podcast, we just didn't get to it.

1116
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Could you have a little bit more time that you

1117
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 2>can spare for me today?

1118
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Well?

1119
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, okay, Well let's do this. Let's let's let's

1120
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.719
<v Speaker 2>wrap up this episode of Bigfoot and beyond here with

1121
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Cliff and usually Bobo, and then we can go and

1122
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 2>record for our members after this, if that's okay with you.

1123
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so thank you so much Stephen for coming

1124
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast. I've been trying to get you for

1125
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.599
<v Speaker 2>a while because I knew you'd be a fantastic guest.

1126
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 2>You're so interesting, you have so many adventures under your belt,

1127
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>You're so enthusiastic about life in general, and it just

1128
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 2>comes through for everybody listening. This is Steven Major, and

1129
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 2>he has been on a ton of stuff. But we've

1130
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>been talking about In Search of the Port Chatham hary Man.

1131
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Where can people see this or buy it or because

1132
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 2>people are going to want to put their eyes on this,

1133
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 2>you can.

1134
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:43.840
<v Speaker 3>See In Search of the Port Chatham harry Man is

1135
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 3>available on our YouTube channel for free if you like commercials.

1136
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:49.760
<v Speaker 2>And what is your YouTube channel.

1137
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 3>It's Extreme Expeditions Northwest LLC.

1138
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 2>And of course, by the way, Stephen said that you

1139
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:58.480
<v Speaker 2>can see this for free on his YouTube channel and

1140
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the link is in the shown so just go ahead

1141
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and click that and I'll bring you right over there

1142
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to the YouTube channel. You can check out all the

1143
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 2>things that Steven's up to Stephen, Thank you very much.

1144
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Once again, I really sincerely appreciate you coming on and members,

1145
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 2>stay tuned. We'll be talking to Stephen on the members episode.

1146
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much everybody for tuning into and Beyond

1147
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 2>with Cliff and usually Bobo. But we'll be back eventually,

1148
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 2>hopefully next week. We'll see about that and in the meantime,

1149
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, keep it squatchy. Thanks for listening to this

1150
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 2>week's episode of Bigfoot and Beyond. If you liked what

1151
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.840
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1152
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.679
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1153
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.840
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1154
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.480
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1155
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:54.320
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1156
00:56:54.360 --> 00:57:01.519
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1157
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 3>An understanding as a const
