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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns playing the Bears, the Colts and the

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Sea Hawks, the Panthers and the Saints. Those are three games.

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Art the Caesar is gonna tell us how to bet.

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You can hear them laughing in the background. That's Tuesday

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mocked that up, Art the Redskins. Your laughter when I

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said that, Oh class, we are not editing. This show

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is part of the lore. Part of the lore of

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the show known as the best betting show ever, Art

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the Caesar with us, Joe and Airy. I might have

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a little bit of dementia setting and or I did

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that purposely? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Did I do it purposely?

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Speaker 3: No chance?

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Speaker 1: No, Redskins, Giants, Packers, Broncos, Lines, Ran, Raiders, Eagles. Oh my,

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all right, let's start right there, bro, Redskins and the Giants.

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This is a game that everyone is interested in. Tell

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us how are are people betting it?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to this point of the season, right Prez,

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where there are games that really don't mean much in

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the standings, but are gonna still have interest with betters.

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Speaker 3: You know, Giants were one and a half point home favorite.

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They've now ticked up the two.

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Speaker 4: The real move here Sharp wise was over money forty

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five and a half.

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Speaker 3: We're now forty seven to the over in that game.

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Speaker 4: A game that we briefly touched on yesterday, Packers at Broncos.

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We opened Packers one and a half. It's now two

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and a half. That was sharp money. Totals gone up

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from forty one and a half to forty three and

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a half for us. That was not sharp money. That's

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just us moving with the market. Little bit of bets

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here and there on the over, but nothing that it

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was like, Oh it's sharp, we really got to move.

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We're just kind of catching up with the market on

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that number. At Rams, this is a excellent game. And

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you know, we open Rams four and a half. Sharp's

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played four and a half and they laid five and

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a half. We're now six on the RAMS. I think

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the Rams are also gonna be very popular in the

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money line parlays and the teasers. Obviously, the total has

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seen a big jump total of fifty two and a

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half on an opener. We're now fifty five on that game.

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How high do we get? Is this the top of

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the market. This is something we always talk about with

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these games. This is obviously a game that probably should

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see a lot of points, So no shock that it's

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one of the highest totals, if not the highest total

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we've seen on the board all year. And the Raiders

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Eagles now before the Monday night game, you know, Eagles

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were twelve and a half thirteen on our look ahead.

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After the Monday night game, they've been downgraded a little bit.

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We reopened Philly ten and a half, totals dropped from

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thirty eight and a half to thirty seven and a

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half off sharp money.

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Speaker 2: So kind of a unique situation, sweet art, right, I mean,

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we got a couple of ten win teams that are

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getting points, Like, how does that happen? Here? Are we

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anticipating and I'm wondering our games like this? Is there

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a clear public you know, pros versus Joe's line drawn

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in the sand with the public's like, how how is

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Denver getting points at home with ten wins? How are

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the Patriots or is it? Is it pretty much everyone

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in agreement here that Denver they're waiting for the shoe

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to drop, and it's probably coming.

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Speaker 4: I think the Denver shoe, as far as the betters go,

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they've been waiting. It's almost like the Bears they were

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waiting for the Bears for the shoe to drop there. Now,

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you know, depending on what you got that number at

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last week, you could have pushed it with the Bears

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because there were plenty of sevens out there.

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Speaker 3: But Denver is in that unique situation. And we talked

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about this yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Green Bay not only public, but green Bay very popular

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with sharps. Denver not popular with the public and not

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popular with sharps. That's why you've seen that. And you

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know green Bay and Buffalo and well, you know, we'll

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touch on the Buffalo game later in the week, but

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that's another one where they're now a favorite. It was

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basically pick now they're minus one, minus one and a

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half Buffalo being favored over New England that I don't

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want to say New England is not public or not sharp.

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They're definitely more so on the better's minds than Denver.

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where the public loves to load up on Buffalo. So

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it's no shock that those teams are favored the way

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Speaker 1: You know, art to me and listen, I want to

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remain inside of this pocket or SEC talk NFL. I'm

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not around tomorrow or Friday, Brian Power hosting. I honestly,

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I mean here I sit feeling like the KC Chargers

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line is the most wrong or the wrongest, or the

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line that stands out as the strangest of all, and

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yet I can't seem to pull the trigger on the Chargers.

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That's the most shocking line to me.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree, But that also goes back to the

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public still loves Kansas City. I don't know why. I

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don't now they've shoved Kansas City down our throats for

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the last five years. They're always on prime time. We

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know all the players, we know the coach, we know everything,

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and the Chargers are a little boring. Quarterbacks hurt, coachesn't likeable.

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There's like a lot of things about the Chargers where

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people don't want to bet the Chargers, but they still

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are like, oh no, well, if the Chiefs went out,

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they got a shot.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, Prez. How could you lay over a

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field goal.

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Speaker 4: Right now in a division game? I know it's at

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home with the Chiefs. I just don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how sorry, Joe, And I'll ask you this question,

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how much better is Houston than the Chargers that Houston

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can be plus three and a half three, go into

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KC and beat them and the Chargers can't.

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Speaker 2: I A lot of this, I think still has to

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do with the idea that the excuse with the Chiefs

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will continue as long as there is an excuse or

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people perceive there be an excuse, in this case, the

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decimated offensive line. If there is any hope that those

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guys are coming back this week, and we already know

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the backups to the backups are hurt on the Chargers

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offensive line, you're gonna get a lot of cheat. People

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are gonna look for a reason and be like, oh,

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that's why they sucked. So yeah, no, they're gonna be

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better now. And I don't know how that's not gonna

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change overnight or in one season either. It feels like

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as long as Kansas City has my homes and Andy

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Reid and people are gonna be like, yeah, no, this

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is just temporary, they're gonna flip. They're doing the same

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crap with the Eagles art. I mean, everyone keeps thinking

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in week fourteen or fifteen, they're gonna flip a switch

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and the offense is gonna be fixed.

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Speaker 1: It's not yeap Artle, let's stay in the NFL real quick, guys,

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hit that like button. If you don't mind subscribe to

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our channel. Make sure to comment. We got so much

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show ahead of us. Our parlay of the day, we're

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going to do fade or not. The top teams in

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each division in the NFL. We got our NFL bests,

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college basketball, and the rundowns. At the end of the show, Art,

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I'm gonna throw some games at you. Eighty nine percent

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of the money looks like it's coming in on Houston,

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eighty eight percent on Philadelphia. We got a ton of

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money on the over in the Baltimore game, a ton

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of money on the over in the Washington Giants game.

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You're ready alluded to that, a ton of money on

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the under in the Indianapolis Seattle game, and a whole

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bunch of people running to the window to bet the

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San Francisco forty nine ers. Anything you want to discuss

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in any of those games, anything stand out there.

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Speaker 2: Well before you do that, Art, I'm glad you brought

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up the percentages there, Prez, because I heard I was

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talking to somebody yesterday and they were telling me that

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I guess through the first fourteen weeks. Teams that have

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been getting at least sixty percent of the tickets are

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getting their ass handed to thirty seven percent through forty weeks.

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So the teams that are like, I'm just trend off

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and off, trend off fifty and eighty four against the

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number are through thirteen weeks. Anybody getting sixty percent or

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more of the tickets. I mean, my goodness, that's got

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that's just your guys are cleaning house on those games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny with those ticket counts. I always want

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to let people know you could book a game and

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you can have let's just use a round number. You

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get one hundred tickets on a team, but it could

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be all public tickets, right, you know, you could have

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five tickets on the other side, but they're from your

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five sharpest accounts, So it's sometimes a little those could

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be misleading, you know. And I'm pres just to touch

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on one that you hit that top one. The Houston

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money we had talked about yesterday, where Arizona is a

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complete fade now and you know Houston at nine and

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a half, going to tag going to ten and a half,

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just going through the roof here, I mean, there's gonna

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be no, No one's gonna run in the window to

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bet Arizona. So there are some games where it does align,

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but I think a lot of times you gotta remember

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the respected accounts are going to be minis school compared

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to the public accounts. So you could get so many

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games where the public just lines up on one team

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and it's like, oh, look, how skewed this is.

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Speaker 3: So you know, always keep at art.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I just real quick. Baltimore, we ought money coming

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in on the over. That makes sense, but man, people

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are betting Baltimore, right. Is there gonna be a three

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I could see it.

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Speaker 4: Baltimore is another team that still late in the season,

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the betters don't want to quit better still feel oh well,

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they're gonna find their legs, they're gonna figure it out.

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And Baltimore falls under that category as one of those teams,

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like Joe said, like in Eagles, like the Chiefs, like

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we discussed, the betters almost feel like they're getting a

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discount on this, so let's load up on these low

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numbers and maybe we're ahead of the move.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Stroud has what three years now, he's

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been a league I think he has started forty six

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or forty seven games. Want to take a guess, is

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the biggest favorite he's ever been?

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Speaker 1: Minus nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's eight was his previous high against Tennessee. I think

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Land better. He is never as a starting quarterback in

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the NFL late this kind of number, I don't know.

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Does that give you a pause? Pres I mean that

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offense at Houston is so.

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Speaker 1: I spoke about this game Joe on the NFL Presidential Address,

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which guys, that's up now live Where did you talk?

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Dot TV? Check it out. It's about eighteen minutes long.

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I take a part every game, and you know, I

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was trying to figure out how do you bet this game?

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And I kind of made the analogy to the Philadelphia

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Las Vegas game, because here we have we've lost Joe,

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but you know, the show.

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Speaker 2: Is still going. But that's all right.

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Speaker 1: Here we have a scenario where two teams double digit favorites,

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neither of them can score. How do you attack a

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game like that? You know, I came up with the

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under team total or Arizona and the under team total

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a LATAs Vegas. That's sort of how I tackled those

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two games. I just didn't know how else to look

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at it. I certainly can't take Arizona and basically the

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way I said, okay, you know, can you see a

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twenty to three game here, or you know, seventeen to

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nine game and all of that sort of gets me

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to under and I would say those scores are I say,

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what happens in Arizona and Houston, give or take, will

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happen in Hiladelpa, Las Vegas. It's it's it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Just unless it's defensive or special teams as Yeah, at

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which points that's it? You can't down on that. There's

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too much variance. Are one final one here? What I

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had this conversation this morning. I'm still trying to figure

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out how anybody has a line on this Seattle Indie

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game when we're not even sure who the hell the

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quarterback is going to be for the Colts. It doesn't

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sound like Riley is going to go in this game.

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The only other quarterback they have on in the organization

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is Ripping And now they've signed of course, you know,

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forty four year old grandpa Philip Rivers. Does this If

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they announced that Rivers is going against Seattle, does this

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line go up does it go down? What about ripping?

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I mean, what happened. I don't even know how. We're

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at thirteen and a half and we have no idea

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who's going to be under center.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, as I talked about yesterday,

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we open eleven on them. You know, we've had this

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conversation before. In the old days, you guys know this.

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Speaker 3: You could keep a game off the board till game day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could and nobody.

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Speaker 4: Nobody would say anything, Nobody would call you out. There

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was no social media, there was no you guys or cowards.

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Speaker 3: Put a lineup. You could do it and it was respected.

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Speaker 4: It was it was do you want to wait till

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Sunday morning to put a lineup? That's fine, you can't

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do that in this age. You have to put up

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which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Like with you, where does that line go with?

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Speaker 1: It's not about the fact that he's forty four, Joe.

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He's done when he was thirty nine. Yeah, I mean,

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he's really bad.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 4: But to answer your question, Joe, I think the perception

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of having a who's basically been on the couch for

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five years coaching its kids hasn't played as forty four

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years old. He goes in that line clearly goes up

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over fourteen past obviously at has to and I don't

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know will there be back at some point?

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Speaker 1: Will there be blood?

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Speaker 4: Better be the betters will look at it lowish total,

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they'll just run and try to play defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean you might, but you have to go over.

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Speaker 1: I got a bet. I got a bet Philip rivers

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over half a yard rushing.

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Speaker 2: He could he could get tackled going forward and get

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two yards though. So that's that's a rough one there.

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I'm gonna be fascinated because Ripping. I think the same thing.

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If it's if Ripping gets an half and this is

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his ninth team in the NFL and in like five years,

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like it's going to four, it's going So do you

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grab it now? Do you lay to thirteen and a

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half now at Seattle? Because it feels like anybody who

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they this thing is going to be fourteen fifteen, sixteen points?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean probably, Like I said, you already missed

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a good number of you know, we opened eleven or

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eleven Monday morning, you know, and obviously saw sharp accounts

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say hey, this thing's gonna balloon, because I mean, even

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if it was Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 2: I mean we've Ridley Leonard was hurt until we found

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out about Rivers. So you made eleven based upon Leonard

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being the started quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be an This is even going to

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be the greatest story in the history of the NFL.

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Or It's gonna be the biggest train wreck. I can't

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wait to see.

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Speaker 1: It on fam minus eight hundred train wreck. It is art.

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The Seeds are joining us from the West Gate, Joveniria,

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Lawrence Pressman, this is the best betting show ever. Stay

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with us all the way to the end. We got

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lots more our parlay of the day that we went yesterday,

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I think I won my leg No, we did.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, pres it was the rare

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time we all lost.

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Speaker 1: I lose my legs.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: Rare time.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't even remember what I put out and

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people are like, how do you how do you not

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know this? Press? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no I did. No,

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I did put out Edmonton as a client player, which.

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Speaker 3: He had the under and the stars.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, four three almost.

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Speaker 3: With still rare time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm going with the over in the Florida

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Panthers game. Do I see it five and a half

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out there?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Of course at the two books, we could always count

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on over five and a half of me. Uh Florida,

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Utah Art.

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Speaker 4: This team is undefeated in college basketball, and overnight they

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were a slight dog. Now they're a slight favorite at home.

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Wisconsin can be tricky. But give me the Nebraska at

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home money.

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Speaker 5: Line, Joseph, You know a part of me really wants

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I don't know why the money is pouring in on

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the Lakers now up to seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: In Swans here, but I mean, all right, I'll buy it.

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I'll take the Lakers on the money line. But every

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part of me wants to take the points in San

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Antonio here tonight. But I'll take the Lakers to advance

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at home on the money line.

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Speaker 1: Okay, parlay of the day in the bag, It's time

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for fade or not made. We're gonna go through the

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top teams in each division. We're gonna start with the

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New England Patriots. They have Buffalo at home this week,

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then they are on the road playing Baltimore that Jets,

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and they end at home against Miami. I think they're

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a fade team. Now, I'm not gonna tell you that

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they're not a good team. I just think that they're

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overvalued in the market and I think they will regress

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and I'm looking to bet against them. The Sunday Art.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, President. I think the line is telling.

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Speaker 4: I think a team who's said the type of year

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they've had eleven and two obviously a reflection of the

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schedule of Buffalo now being a favorite and should be

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a favorite in the game. I definitely like Buffalo in

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the game this week, but I think New England moving

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forward with some of those teams Baltimore, who I don't

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think that's you know, their team.

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Speaker 3: You can kind of go against the Jets.

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Speaker 4: I know the Dolphins will played better, but New England

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will get back on track.

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Speaker 1: But not this week, Joseph.

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Speaker 2: They're part of a handful of teams that you know,

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you can only play the teams that are on your schedule.

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I get it, but at some point, you know, and

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I think it starts with New England this week. I

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think it starts with Denver. Yeah, you know you're gonna

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have to do it against much better competition than what

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you've been doing it against. On a consistent basis. So

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for now it's a holding pattern for me because it's

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been that kind of screw in the AFC pens where

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you don't know, you just I think it's still anybody's

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game in the AFC. But I think we're gonna learn

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a lot over the next couple of weeks. And those

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those great ten win teams but have played absolutely nobody.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers, they're playing Miami at home on Monday Night,

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then they're on the road playing the Lions, the Browns,

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and they end hosting the Ravens. I am fading them

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in all four games.

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Speaker 4: Art, Wow, you and I aligned the same way here, Prez,

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especially on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: They cannot be laying over threes. A Dolphine team has played.

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Speaker 4: So much better, you know, I know the Dolphins aren't great,

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but you're gonna give me three and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'll take Miami all day.

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Speaker 2: And then Joe, guys, Tomlin is twenty two and five

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on Monday night. Like every time we try to stick

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a fork in Tomlin they end up. It just drives

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me absolutely lazy here, you know, not to mention they're

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eleven and one straight up at home in Pittsburgh and

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it will be colder than it wasn't met live for Miami,

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so we expected to go into what you know, teams

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with some wind and no and not to mention chan

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Is still I don't know if he's going or not.

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Nobody seems to know if he's. If they can't run

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the ball, they're not winning that game. They're likely not whinning.

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They're not covering either. So Pittsburgh picked your spots, namely

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when well, I don't know, especially when everyone wants to

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stick a fork and Tomlin and to say that the

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season is over, that's probably when you want to bet him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's their point, Joe. Let's talk about the Giants.

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The Jags. They're a double digit favorite minus twelve and

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a half hosting the Jets. Then they're on the road

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playing the Broncos, the Colts, and they end with the Titans.

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I think this team might be a bet on team.

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I don't think I'm gonna get to the window though

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against the New York Jets, but why not? I mean

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who I think Philip Rivers is starting with the Jets

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this week.

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Speaker 2: Richard Todd. Richard Todd, I think they signed Neil O'Donnell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, President Listen, the Jags are one of those. For me,

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it's they're just kind of a stay away because, I

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mean against the Jets so inconsistent. Who knows give him

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credit there right in the playoff mix here, maybe can

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win the division, but I would say far away from

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this jetsam especially this week.

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Speaker 3: I can't lay almost two touchdowns, Joe.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, press I said the biggest spread for CJ.

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Stroud was eight prior to this game against Arizona. This

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will be the biggest spread Tremor Lawrence in his career

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has ever laid. He has never been a double digit

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favorite like he is against the Jets or a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: I think Fabio has laid a lot of spreads, Joe.

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I just said, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know that he's getting to get a lot of

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too spreads in Jacksonville. Yeah he is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk Broncos, Joe. I know you're gonna

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fade them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you now. We like this team is only

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going to get better. I don't know what it is.

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They got a great coach, they seem to be able

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to get it done. And I mean this Sunday, the

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Packers are an overrated team. I don't know. I'm interested

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in Denver Art.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. They fall into new like the New

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England class.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 4: I got to see them beat a really really good team.

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All their games seem to be tight. The fact that

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I'm getting green Bay under a field goal, I know

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it's on the road until you can look at the

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money line of green Bay.

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Speaker 3: I like green Bay in the game. I don't think

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Denver is a player, Joseph.

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Speaker 2: You know, Denver at home I think is one thing.

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Denver on the road continues to be a fade. But

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I've got to look at the number press because this

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was interesting with bo Nicks being a dog here at home.

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You know, for all his faults, he doesn't get blown out.

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I believe his six point teaser record is like twenty

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six and three. It's some unbelievable number where yeah they

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may not you know, but they cover in a big

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way with them on a six point teaser might not

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be the way to look at home with him getting

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what one one and a half, now.

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Speaker 1: Know, there's still two and a halfs out ane and

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a half, so I'm definitely going to be putting them

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in a teaser as well. And I think, look, I

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know it's not a long teaser, but doesn't Denver and

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the Chargers sound like a decent teaser bet to you, guys.

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Speaker 2: It's not terrible, it's not terrible. It's not terrible. But

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if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I mean, I

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think Denver getting eight and a half at home not

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a bad look.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are fascinating here, guys, because I think I've

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isolated a way to bet them. And I'll tell you

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that in a sec they are hosting the Raiders on

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the road, playing the Commodores. Lionel Richie will be the lead.

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Then they're in Buffalo and they end with the Commodores. Again.

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I don't think Lionel makes that last one.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 1: This is a team that does not need to win

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out and I think the message that Philadelphia needs to

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send here is we can throw the ball. I think

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their team total over interests me.

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Speaker 4: Art oh Man, you know, in all those games except

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for the Buffalo game, they'll be nice size favorites. Obviously

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a big favorite this week against the Raiders. Obviously for me,

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I can't lay big numbers with them. Think there's value

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on unders in their games because they're off their and

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their d is really good. So and you know they

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went to overtime this week and they under still hit.

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So I think there's still some value on their unders.

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Speaker 2: Joe, like running into a brick house, Press, I don't

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think I think that is absolutely that is absolutely the

477
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best way to look at it. Press. I agree with

478
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you one hundred percent. Listen, even if if you're gonna

479
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win games, forget about cover. You're gonna win games, you

480
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gotta score points, right, And I think that's how you

481
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correlate with Philadelphia. If you think they're gonna win some games,

482
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they're going over their team total. If you think, then

483
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go And it happened again against the Chargers. I think

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that team total close twenty and a half. I had

485
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them at twenty one and a half and it's still

486
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they still didn't get there, so and they lost. I

487
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think that correlates.

488
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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like this is a team

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that if they can stretch the field in the next

490
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four games and show the teams are going to face

491
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in the playoffs that they are not one dimensional, it

492
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might open up that running game. And if it does,

493
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that defense is good enough to win the Super Bowl.

494
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I'll tell you that right now. So this team has

495
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to find a way to scare the other defenses. So yeah,

496
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that's sort of how I'm looking at it now. The

497
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Packers have the Broncos this week, the Bears next week,

498
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the Ravens the week after, and they end in Minnesota,

499
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and I promise you Minnesota will want to beat them.

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This is not the easiest schedule out there. I know, Art,

501
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you like this backer team and are looking to bet

502
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the moving forward. I'm not. I'm interested in the unders though,

503
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all right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: You know, the quarterbacks still worris me a little bit,

506
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but I like the coach. I like the defense. They

507
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can run the ball, So I still like Green Bay

508
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in spots.

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Speaker 2: Joe two bets. You always want to make president. You're

510
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a big parlay guy right in the NFL. All right, well,

511
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here's a trend off for you. Trendof tad off. That's right.

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Matt Lafleur twenty one and four straight up in a

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month of December. Sean McVeigh twenty seven and eleven straight

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up in the month of December. Bet these guys on

515
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the money line Press in the month of December. Those

516
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teams forget about the spreads. They win games in December

517
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when it matters, and they've been doing it for a while.

518
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about the Rams shortly, but

520
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the Bucks and the Panthers will do them together. I

521
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won't give you their schedule. I like the Bucks this Thursday.

522
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I feel like the New Orleans Gate New Orleans game

523
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was what I call a bottom out game, if you will.

524
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I think the Bucks are a bet on team moving forward,

525
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and I think Panthers are a fade art.

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Speaker 4: The Bucks gotta get their guys back healthy. This has

527
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been a theme with them all year. It feels like

528
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they deal with a million injuries. But obviously on the

529
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short week, it's a really bad Atlanta team. You have

530
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to like Tampa on Thursday night football. I mean, that's

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the only way to look.

532
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Speaker 1: Joe.

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Speaker 2: Who were the Panthers playing this week?

534
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Speaker 1: The Panthers are playing a chip team at Saints. Yeah,

535
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who's the favorite? Panthers minus two and a half if

536
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I recall, yep, minus two and a half.

537
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Speaker 2: Okay, trend off the Panthers.

538
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Speaker 1: Tread off.

539
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Speaker 2: The Panthers have not won or covered the spread in

540
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the game that they have been favorite since September one,

541
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four years ago. They've lost eleven straight straight up and

542
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against the number as a favorite. This is the longest

543
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streak since nineteen I think the merger they said since

544
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:02,079
nineteen seventy they can't win. They are dead in the

545
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water as a favorite. But maybe that changes now.

546
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna hold true forever, Joe.

547
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Speaker 2: That's what I mean, but it's hell true for for.

548
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Speaker 1: I mean what that said. Let's let's let's take that

549
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with a grain of salt. How many times were they

550
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favored in the last four years?

551
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Speaker 2: Eleven?

552
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Eleven? Yeah, in Quebec they call that awns. It's my

553
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:34,240
favorite number in French awns. It just sounds good, awns on.

554
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:44,039
That's eleven in French. Okay, Rams and Seahawks, oh man,

555
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,240
I'm not betting the Rams this week. They're so good though,

556
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,599
and the Seahawks, I'll bet them. I think both teams

557
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,839
are a bet on team moving forward. I think both

558
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:59,839
teams are awesome. I'm looking to bet on Seattle this week,

559
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,920
not the Rams.

560
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Speaker 2: Art.

561
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Speaker 3: I'm with you, Press.

562
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Speaker 4: I think both teams are awesome, but to me, the

563
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the two best teams in the conference.

564
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Speaker 2: I agree.

565
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Speaker 4: I can't wait. I can't wait till they play. I

566
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know we've talked forever about their future stuff. You know

567
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720
it's probably too late on both these teams, but maybe

568
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:22,240
now's the time to start looking at future stuff conference,

569
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you know, super Bowl, all that type of stuff, because

570
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the numbers are only going to go.

571
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Speaker 1: Down Thursday, December eighteenth. Joe, I'm not going to say

572
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or that's when they play. Yeah, I'm just saying that's

573
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when they play. Oh, okay, you get to say, Joe.

574
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Speaker 2: I was just giving you a little color Oh I

575
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:44,119
like the color press. Let me let me just say this.

576
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This Sunday is when the Detroit Lion season ends. I

577
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:53,559
am betting the Rams. I think the Rams absolutely let

578
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,839
everybody know and make a statement of who the best

579
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team in the NFC is. And sorry, can't keep giving

580
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:02,279
up third points a game, Detroit and expect anybody to

581
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:06,960
take you seriously. I think the Rams destroyed them. Wow,

582
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,759
look at the book, Look at the Dams. I mean,

583
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,559
it's been no man's land from the open five you

584
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,240
said five and a half sick. Yeah, that's no man's land.

585
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
And yet it's not going the other way. The public

586
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:24,000
will want Detroit. They think it's too many points, but no.

587
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well and laid la early, so you know that's

588
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why we've moved. Yeah to that, you know, to that six.

589
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,880
Not that six is key, but we're starting to trend

590
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to key numbers.

591
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Speaker 2: Yep.

592
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,039
Speaker 1: Well right now over in odds launching across all the

593
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,039
sports books, it looks like ninety two percent of the

594
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:46,559
tickets on the over, seventy two percent on the money,

595
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:50,839
sixty six percent on the rams, ninety percent of the

596
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,680
money on the rams the rams. So and yet we've

597
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gone from six to five and a half. Interesting, that

598
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:01,400
was a great segment.

599
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: We didn't I opened as low as four and a

600
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half five, so we know, yeah, we've seen nothing but

601
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,119
all we've seen. Yeah, you were born.

602
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,279
Speaker 1: Right now. You can get a six at or one

603
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,880
one and a four and a half heavily juiced at

604
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,359
penny ur and a half, not heavily juiced. Oh that

605
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,920
was the open. Yeah, okay, great breaking segment. Man, I

606
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400
love it. I love Wednesdays Art. Thanks for doing this, man.

607
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,079
What's going on over at the Westgate? Anything to promote?

608
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Speaker 4: No, not much, pres listen, man, enjoy your trip. Obviously,

609
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,559
Joe myself and Brian will hold down the ford here

610
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the rest of the week, and you know, obviously I'll

611
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,480
see you next week.

612
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be back for the Monday show. Art deseaser.

613
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Speaker 2: Everyone.

614
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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this, Joe. We got lots to talk

615
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,039
about you, and I still have to give out our

616
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NFL best bet, you got the college basketball best bets,

617
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and then the NHL and NBA rundown. Plus let always

618
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we will end with our mailbag segment. Before we get

619
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into any of that, It's time for some business, Joe.

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I got a big, big, big couple of bets in

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the NFL for this coming weekend. I want to start

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by telling you I got a four percent NFL parlay.

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This is my second strongest parlay of the year. I

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won my first strongest, a five percent last week. Leg

625
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one of my three t moneyline parlay starts on Thursday.

626
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I'm sure you guys can guess it. Try I guess

627
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the other two. You guys can head over to wager

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Talk and buy that play. But most importantly, stop the presses.

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I have a five percent total for Sunday in the

630
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NFL that I am stoked about. My five percent plays

631
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have been rolling right now. I just won my five

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percent NFL play last week, so head over to wager

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as well on an eight and two run. So really

636
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excited about Week fifteen of the NFL. As far as

637
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Todaego's I got one NHL, one NBA and one college

638
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,639
basketball playoff. What do you got going, Joe? And let's

639
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give out some promos, brother.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as a matter of fact, I'll give out a

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and we can partner up and get to do this

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Speaker 1: Up next year, Joe, that your promo is incredible. Frankly,

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if I didn't own the company and have free access

656
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to your plays, oh, I would buy it. Guys, I

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that promo does not last long. You're Joe, You're up

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are you doing in that? Joe and are up up.

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So what have we established right now, Joe? Your up

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What is that promo again?

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's very simple. You can only get it not

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good would that? How good would that be?

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Speaker 2: It's all about It's all about the return pras. That's

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all it's about. That's it. Long term is the way

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to roll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into some n AL best bets. I

689
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got one for you, Joe, and this is likely going

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to be a client play again, feel charitable. I know

691
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this is as square as it can be. But you

692
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know what, Joe square plays win too. We're going with

693
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the over in the La Detroit game. And let me

694
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bottom line this. There was seventy four points scored in

695
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the last Detroit game, the one Dallas played forty four

696
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to thirty Detroit victory. There were fifty five points scored

697
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in the Green Bay game that would have pushed. There

698
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was sixty one point scored when they played the New

699
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,639
York Giants, there was six. The six points scored when

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they played Washington fifty five is Child's played for this

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Detroit Lions team. And when you look at the rams,

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they just put forty four up on Arizona, twenty eight

703
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on Carolina, thirty more on Tapa Bay, forty two on

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SAT Brand.

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Speaker 2: This team has.

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Speaker 1: Gone over thirty or over thirty four four times in

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their last six games. That is unheard of. And yes

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they have a good defense, they're not holding Detroit down

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fifty five, thirty one, twenty eight, thirty one, twenty seven,

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thirty one, twenty five, thirty or twenty eight. They all

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go over. Joe, what do you like?

712
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: Pres We talked about this game a little bit earlier,

713
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,639
and I'm sorry, I mean, listen, the look aheadline for

714
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,559
the Houston Texans was six to six and a half

715
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,880
and they go to Arrowhead and come away with a win.

716
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,840
You know, I'm still scratching my head about the whole

717
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960
fourth down going for it on their own thirty one.

718
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,400
But nothing that I saw in that game against Kansas

719
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,360
City leads me to believe there should be a three

720
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,239
to three and a half point adjustment from what the

721
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,960
look ahead was with Arizona. So Arizona getting nine and

722
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480
a half and just wait because it we'll get to ten.

723
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,440
And the fact that C. J. Stroud in his career

724
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:28,159
has never laid this kind of number. I'm sorry that

725
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,039
offense doesn't deserve to be a ten point favorite over anybody.

726
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:33,559
Pres I'll take the points.

727
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I'm with you, brother, CBB Joe.

728
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,119
Before we get into college basketball rundown, let's talk about

729
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:49,760
this Jacksonville State game. They're playing Houston. And before let's leave,

730
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,079
let's leave a gap.

731
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 2: Okay, we are going to give all of.

732
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: You people five seconds to think about what the line

733
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,320
in the Houston Jacksonville State game is before we tell

734
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:00,599
you it.

735
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,519
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe, all right, pras well, you're not joking

736
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:11,559
in this thing, because it is ugly. The Jacksonville Jacksonville

737
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:14,719
State Tigers are now I believe, the latest, a forty

738
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,079
and a half point underdog two the University of Houston.

739
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,840
Now we are talking about a terrible Jacksonville State team

740
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,679
that I believe has already lost four games this season.

741
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:32,639
By at least thirty five points. But listen, this is

742
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,320
not the same old, same old Houston, at least defensively here.

743
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:40,079
And most of those games that they lost were against

744
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:44,199
teams that play much faster tempo than what Houston is

745
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,239
going to Usually those games land somewhere in the seventy

746
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,599
six seventy seven possession mark. You're not gonna get that

747
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,840
with Houston here. Now. They are the number six I

748
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,039
think defensive ranked thanks to ken Pom efficiency in the country.

749
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,960
But the total is one thirty five, one thirty five

750
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,239
and a half and you're asking them to win in

751
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,440
a lower possession game by over forty and a half points. Now,

752
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,320
having said that, I'd rather play the total, though, I'd

753
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,840
rather play the under one thirty five and a half

754
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,599
because if they are going to cover this game, I

755
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,800
don't think Jacksonville State gets to fifty points. It's a

756
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,239
big ask, but I think the value is more on

757
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,679
the under in this one. And I'll give you another

758
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,760
game coming up here today, Charleston take it on South Florida.

759
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,199
I think South Florida is one of these teams this year,

760
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,119
guys that is going to have really really big home

761
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,960
and away splits here. I think they are going to

762
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,679
be much better at home than they are going to

763
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,199
be on the road. You just saw that with that

764
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,840
win over Utah State last week. And this line is

765
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,079
right kind of where that line was. I think this

766
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,280
isn't the same old, same old Charleston team. They are

767
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,199
going through a lot of turnover and they are playing

768
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,400
much slower than they used to here. I definitely think

769
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,360
South Florida laying two touchdowns thirteen thirteen and a half

770
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,400
back then when they are home, Pres, they are going

771
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,360
to be a solid bet all season long.

772
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:21,559
Speaker 1: Joe, let's go four NHL games two minutes to do

773
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:26,320
them all. Rangers on the road playing Chicago Rangers have

774
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,599
been really good on the road of late Joe. They

775
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,920
won three of the last four. This Chicago team coming

776
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,679
back from a four game road trip, I really like

777
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,519
to bet hockey teams coming back from a big road trip.

778
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:42,760
I don't know what it is. And I spoke to

779
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Matthew Barnaby about this a lot, and what he was

780
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920
saying is, Hey, Pres, we know we're men. We go out,

781
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,000
you know, we go fun, We drink, we pond, we

782
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,480
play video games, we laugh, we enjoy each other. And

783
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,599
then we come home and have to deal with estrogen.

784
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,760
Who wouldn't be in a bad mood for one day.

785
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,480
So that explains that we're gonna take the New York

786
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:09,239
Rangers Joe Detroit playing Calgary tonight six and a half.

787
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,679
At some of the books draftings especially, always can count

788
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,960
on them for a half. I like the under in

789
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,199
this game. I know Calgary and Buffalo played eleven goals

790
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,639
in their last game, and Calgary finally put up some.

791
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,159
This is a team that's gonna play to the under

792
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,440
all year long. Anytime there's a six and a half.

793
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,519
I don't care who they're playing, We're taking the under.

794
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:32,280
I like the over in the Florida Utah game Joe

795
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,000
five and a half at the two Big Boys six

796
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:39,719
everywhere else. Look, it's just one of those spots where

797
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,000
I think Utah is gonna score and Florida has been

798
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,800
putting up three or more lately. And the Kings in Seattle.

799
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,480
I like the Kings here Joe minus one forty. This

800
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,000
is a good bet other than that big card tomorrow.

801
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,360
Just take the under in every Toronto Maple Leaf game.

802
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,280
I've been riding that for a while.

803
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,159
Speaker 2: Is that all for Toronto Press. Is it is the

804
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:08,719
is it that era over? Or then they know the time.

805
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,079
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something Joe yesterday and Wager talked today.

806
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,599
I was asked if Toronto minus one fifteen to make

807
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,320
the playoffs was a good bet, and I think it is.

808
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,559
I actually think that Toronto is better suited for a

809
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:27,760
long playoff run now than they were prior. They're not

810
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,039
better suited to winning the league during the regular season.

811
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:37,480
So it's an interesting dynamic. Right this is a team

812
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:41,400
that's transitioning to a defensive team. Uh and right now

813
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,960
they're playing without either of their goaltenders. So no, I

814
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,400
don't do I think they're going to win the cop No,

815
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,960
I don't, But I do think it minus one fifteen

816
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,960
to make the playoffs. I think that's an unbelievable bet.

817
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,599
Speaker 2: All right, So I was wondering if you're sticking to

818
00:44:56,679 --> 00:44:59,119
fok of them or are we thinking maybe there's still

819
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,599
a little something and left there?

820
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,599
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on And I know you cheer

821
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:07,360
it with the Panthers. I mean they're basically the same situation.

822
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,119
Right now. We're missing our two goalies. You're missing your

823
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:10,960
two stars.

824
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: I think experience matters in a long season, and I

825
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,039
think ultimately now is not the time to stick a

826
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:19,679
fork in any of those types of teams. I would

827
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,599
wait until after the after the calendar turns and everyone

828
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:25,920
gets a little healthier, we'll have a better idea of

829
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:27,719
who's what I think.

830
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: I agree with you. NBA rundown, Joe, what do you got?

831
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: All right?

832
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,679
Speaker 1: Pras?

833
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,039
Speaker 2: Only two more games here tonight. NBA Cup Time. It's

834
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:39,239
gonna starts with the first game, and that's gonna be

835
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,280
the Phoenix Suns. The feisty Phoenix Suns, who, by the way,

836
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,840
we just cashed a ticket with our clients taking those

837
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,800
points against Minnesota Timberwolves the other night. Good news for

838
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,360
the Suns. By the way, they may very well have

839
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,360
Devin Booker back for this game. Looks like he's gonna

840
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,679
be questionable or at least a game time decision. That's

841
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:59,960
the good news. The bad news is they're taking all

842
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,800
on the friggin OKC thunder who to this point have

843
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,480
only lost one game. That's it, one game. In fact,

844
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:10,079
they've won twelve of their last fifteen games by ten

845
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:14,199
points or more. Here so I told you last night.

846
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,280
Usually in these kinds of NBA Cup games, You're going

847
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,320
to tend to get a little more defense. This isn't

848
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,239
gonna be just a regular Tuesday Wednesday night game. They

849
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,480
are gonna bring some defense here. I think we're gonna

850
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,880
play at a little slower pace. Wouldn't shock me if

851
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,440
the under hits here, But if Devin Booker goes, I

852
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,800
think this one is going to be a little bit

853
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,599
closer than maybe the market things I told you earlier

854
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:42,559
with the Spurs and the Lakers. This second game, I

855
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:44,800
don't get the lie seven seven and a half. This

856
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:46,880
was six and a half at the open. It's been

857
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,519
nothing but Laker money all day long. The Lakers won

858
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,440
the first meeting between these two teams one eighteen to

859
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,440
one sixteen. That was a month ago, and of course

860
00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:02,039
Luca had thirty five, nine and thirteen in that game.

861
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:06,360
There was no I believe Austin Reeves or Lebron James

862
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,880
in that one. You'll have Lebron here, you'll have Reeves.

863
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,280
But again, this feels like a big number to me

864
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,559
to lay the seven and a half we talked about

865
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,599
in a three team parlay of the day. Just take

866
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:20,199
the Lakers on a money line if you want to

867
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,159
be safe. But I would also tend to think we

868
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:29,159
might be getting points. The NBA's worst three point defensive team.

869
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:32,920
That would be the Lakers. The team without web Iyama

870
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
hitting threes from all over the place, that would be

871
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,639
San Antonio. I think an over might be in play

872
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:41,960
here tonight at the Crypto dot Com.

873
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: Arena, Joe our mailbag section of the show. Before we

874
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,679
get into that real quick, I want to tell you

875
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,960
guys again, I am not here Thursday and Friday. Brian

876
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,679
Power will be in my seat. I will be back

877
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,920
on a Monday. Joe, the genie lover rights. What is

878
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:05,280
the early line on Dion Sanders becoming the next Brown's

879
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,239
head coach? I say it's not gonna happen.

880
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: No way, not gonna happen. No, not gonna happen. I

881
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,840
don't think Dion wants anything to do with NFL players.

882
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,599
I think Dion loves much better being the king of

883
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:24,480
his own little castle there in Colorado. And quite honestly,

884
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,239
I mean he's got some health issues, Prez. He's had

885
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,880
health issues for a while now. I don't know that

886
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,360
the stress and aggravation of the NFL is something he

887
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,239
wants to deal with. So I wouldn't bank anything as possible.

888
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,159
It is the Browns after all, and they do have

889
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,559
Deshaun Watson coming back, so I don't know. Uh, pez

890
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:42,599
it's gonna be interesting.

891
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: Denzel Bolden writes, because yesterday, yesterday said the Titans are

892
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,280
a bent on team and the Browns aren't.

893
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:54,599
Speaker 2: He laughed at me.

894
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: He thought that was funny, and then I pointed out

895
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,239
that they just played each other in Cleveland of the

896
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,559
Titans won one. Yeah, so thanks for that. Green Bay

897
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,960
is favorite for a reason. Denver hasn't beaten anyone that's

898
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,840
from the valley. And yes, Joe agrees. Yep, Bill Wrights,

899
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,239
I'm a client and was just trolling Joe. You guys

900
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,760
are the greatest. The public service announcement on Monday by

901
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,000
the press should be sent to the Smithsonian.

902
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Ooh along with the press. Yeah, you should both go.

903
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah for ancient handicappers. H Joe, one of our listeners

904
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,559
has told you that the Miami Heat are on a

905
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:47,000
time out and you should no longer be betting them.

906
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,119
This is from your loan officer, your actual loan officer. Joe.

907
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: Well, listen, loan officer. I'm tending I tend to agree

908
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,519
with you. I had to heat last night, but I

909
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:00,360
did give you guys the undergar on the show, so

910
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,519
I hope you you jumped on that they were up

911
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:06,079
fifteen nothing to start that game press, and then Tyler

912
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:08,360
hero just couldn't hit water if he fell out of

913
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,559
a boat. But I agree with you for now. The

914
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:16,559
highmiheater on the hell No list along is Edmonton still

915
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:18,239
on that hell No last Press.

916
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go there, Joe. Okay, I'm gonna stick

917
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,280
to my guns. Bro, I'm going to stick to the plan.

918
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,440
Listen our last the last one I wanted to mention,

919
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,360
and this is a perfect way to end the show.

920
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:32,440
JK writes, if you get Debbie to make an appearance,

921
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:36,880
you better have her under the total press. I think

922
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,480
he meant under the table.

923
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,079
Speaker 2: Close y, Joe.

924
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,199
Speaker 1: I this is a This is a message to Debbie head. Debbie.

925
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get off the screen for this day. Debbie.

926
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,159
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think given that we

927
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,840
used you to run a week of humor. I know

928
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,199
you commented yesyesterday on someone's post, so I know you're

929
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:07,280
listening to our show. I'm very appreciative of you, and

930
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,199
I'm all men are appreciative of your last name. And

931
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,840
I'm curious what you think about the stick that we

932
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,639
have been running for the last week. And thank you,

933
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:25,320
Debbie had Okay, that's that's all I got, dude.

934
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 2: Uh, thank you Debbie. We appreciate you. Listen.

935
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need new material. Okay, see you on Monday.

936
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,880
Joe Briant, Power and Art will be back tomorrow. Later everyone,

