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Speaker 4: George Modes of the showtime cards and taking control of
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Speaker 4: a live right. Hey, I want to ask you, George.
Speaker 4: I know you have four point five million dollars in
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Speaker 5: Hey? I like the new studio. I mean this is
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Speaker 4: Okay, cool, So you don't have four point five to
Speaker 4: go after the show, hey, car Bble the Ball the
Speaker 4: Ball Golden Auctions so tell me, So tell me are
Speaker 4: they going about it the right way or how If
Speaker 4: you got that ball, what.
Speaker 5: Are you doing with You're gonna sell it? They didn't
Speaker 5: want to give it back, so you have to. I
Speaker 5: mean that's that's it's a lottery ticket exactly. What's happening?
Speaker 4: Sure, So what's start with the with the beginning price
Speaker 4: and then say X amount for write out purchase?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean you follow with it.
Speaker 5: I think there is a reserve, so it's got to
Speaker 5: meet They're going to start it and it's got to
Speaker 5: meet the reserve.
Speaker 3: What does that mean? So if it.
Speaker 5: Doesn't sell for this price, they don't have to sell it.
Speaker 5: Oh and then he just keeps it. Yeah, what's he
Speaker 5: gonna do with the ball? That means nothing to him exactly,
Speaker 5: But it's worth a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: Todd McFarlane bought the ball that was the Mark McGuire.
Speaker 5: Three million dollars he spent on that and then now
Speaker 5: it's probably worth.
Speaker 3: Tell me.
Speaker 5: Three thousand, really, I mean it's probably it's I don't
Speaker 5: know how, don't even think someone would give them thirty thousand?
Speaker 4: Really give me the give me the reasons why? Because
Speaker 4: I can assume the reasons why, but because it's been broken,
Speaker 4: it went legitimately, or the main.
Speaker 5: Reason is the steroids. Yeah yeah, okay, the steroids was broken.
Speaker 5: There was Sosa, there was Barry bonds. He had to
Speaker 5: buy them all.
Speaker 3: He spent. He's probably five million into it.
Speaker 5: And I've talked to him, I know him personally, Todd McFarlane,
Speaker 5: and you can see it kind of hurts him, but
Speaker 5: he says it's fine.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, I'm just going to keep him.
Speaker 5: He's got to keep him because he can't sell them.
Speaker 4: Sure, not even to the guys that want that they
Speaker 4: have the record or their record.
Speaker 5: No, no, they would. I guess they'd pay a thousand yeah,
Speaker 5: exactly ten thousand dollars right times three?
Speaker 3: Right, Wow, that's the Well there you go with your investment,
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 5: Are However, he's approaching sixty sixty. Oh this well, I
Speaker 5: mean what if what if he hits the sixty sixty?
Speaker 5: Now this one's kind of worthless as well.
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, just to screw this dude, I hope
Speaker 4: he gets the sixty.
Speaker 5: I mean too because to me, he wanted it, Oh
Speaker 5: Toney wanted it, asked for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what what would you have taken for it, Okay,
Speaker 4: you grab it. You know, he wants it, you know,
Speaker 4: the organization wants it. And Jay and I were sitting
Speaker 4: here when I was going to happen. I'm thinking, don't
Speaker 4: be greedy about it, you know. Okay, five hundred thousand,
Speaker 4: that's that's fine. That's a lot of money. Four point
Speaker 4: five that's just kind of too. That's just a lot, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: So what would you take for it?
Speaker 5: Well, and they were even offering other like season tickets. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I signed Jersey and you know, he was being pretty generous.
Speaker 3: He wanted it.
Speaker 5: Rights. It's hard to say, you know, because you know
Speaker 5: it's millions. Oh oh sure, even if it's not four
Speaker 5: point five million, you know, it's a couple of millions.
Speaker 4: Sure, it's millions, but it could not be millions, like
Speaker 4: the farming situation. Right, Well, what if he gets to
Speaker 4: the sixties ye yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: I mean, what what is it? He's at fifty seven?
Speaker 5: I think fifty seven and fifty three? Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: good luck you games?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the home runs my not happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 4: you're in that business. It's that's how crazy it is.
Speaker 3: It is it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, they just had a they had a collective
Speaker 5: southe the Bees with fanatics, and they did high end
Speaker 5: sports cards. Some of these cards that I used to
Speaker 5: own were selling for sixty thousand dollars and you know,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I had that card, you know,
Speaker 5: and they were they did this high end auction and millions,
Speaker 5: millions across the table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like the stock market. Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 5: They had their bitter paddles and they're you know, flipping
Speaker 5: up in insane numbers. Well, we lived for cards that
Speaker 5: that I possessed, you know, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: then you got rid of them?
Speaker 3: Say yeah, I sold them for opinions on the dollar.
Speaker 5: I mean, there was one that I regret. It was
Speaker 5: a Lebron James Uh. It was the ultimate collection autograph Rookie.
Speaker 5: There was twenty five of them, but mine was a
Speaker 5: pristine ten. I sold it for sixty five hundred. A
Speaker 5: few years later it flipped on eBay for eighty three thousand.
Speaker 5: Now that card's probably three hundred k, quarter million easy,
Speaker 5: and I sold it for sixty five hundred.
Speaker 3: That one hurts.
Speaker 4: You geeks know how to live, Yeah, his car card
Speaker 4: collecting geeks, it's.
Speaker 5: It's fine art for the sports enthusiast. Uh, billionaires and millionaires,
Speaker 5: it's yeah.
Speaker 4: So so uh And do they collect We've got through
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff before.
Speaker 3: But do they.
Speaker 4: Collect for that purpose of trying to hit the gold mine?
Speaker 4: Or they collect because they're they're just dudes. They like
Speaker 4: to do it, hope like to do it, but you know,
Speaker 4: accidentally fall into something that's pretty good.
Speaker 5: They on those type of cards. They do collect for
Speaker 5: the investment. You may think that, oh, they're super geeks
Speaker 5: and they're you know, they're they're uber fans. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: they know what they're doing, of course, you know what
Speaker 5: they're investment.
Speaker 3: Well, they have money.
Speaker 5: Then Hendricks the owner of the Diamondbacks. He has probably
Speaker 5: the best baseball card collection in the world. And he
Speaker 5: also has a team. He has a team, and he's
Speaker 5: worth four billion dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but that's a different level because you have
Speaker 4: the money and you can kind of afford the hit exactly.
Speaker 3: That's true. Why do they do it? Because because they
Speaker 3: don't need the money. Why they do it?
Speaker 5: They I mean, they have a packy It's like I said,
Speaker 5: it's like fine art. You know what, Sometimes you look
Speaker 5: at those pieces you don't pick out like God is.
Speaker 3: But it's not that cool.
Speaker 5: It's not a million dollars cool, you know, so it's
Speaker 5: kind of extra. They just really enjoyed and they already
Speaker 5: have the cars and everything else, so why not.
Speaker 3: It's funny because this reminds me.
Speaker 4: I was in Santa Fe for the summer and I
Speaker 4: went through it just a shop, you know, downtown, and
Speaker 4: it was a nice, big piece, and I'm thinking that
Speaker 4: would go, that would go perfect in my living room, right,
Speaker 4: a big, big wall. And I'm thinking, Okay, that's about
Speaker 4: twenty four hundred. Blah blah blah, went and said that's
Speaker 4: fifty two thousand. I think, okay, good crab. Never mind,
Speaker 4: never mind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have some beautiful pieces, you know, and a
Speaker 5: lot of artists live there and and reside there.
Speaker 4: Sure, and you wouldn't know that they're an artist because
Speaker 4: they're just dudes on you know, on the.
Speaker 5: Sidewalk who looked like you needed buck. You're John Martin's
Speaker 5: from Santa Fe. Yeah, the writer of Game of Thrones. Yeah,
Speaker 5: same thing. You would have known he's, you know, and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden he creates this yeah, this saga
Speaker 5: and it's on HBO and.
Speaker 4: So, so we live in a world, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: we have always lived in this world where money talks
Speaker 4: and all that crap, because you.
Speaker 3: Know you're doing it in your world. Now we're doing it.
Speaker 4: Nil. Do you see what happened with the Vegas guy,
Speaker 4: the quarterback who you look like your surprise, where have
Speaker 4: you been in the last twenty four.
Speaker 5: Hours you've been You've been sleeping working. No, I'm trying
Speaker 5: to set up this house.
Speaker 4: Okay, So okay, So I just wanted to get your impression,
Speaker 4: so I'll explain the story. So Vegas, UNILV guy quarterback,
Speaker 4: he moved in from We're transferred from Holy Cross.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, I guess.
Speaker 4: He says he was promised one hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 4: go and play there. The coaches are denying it. So
Speaker 4: there're three and O. He's the starting quarterback. I guess
Speaker 4: they're okay, they're better than they've ever been. Actually, and
Speaker 4: he says, I didn't get paid.
Speaker 3: I'm out. Wow. So he's quit the team.
Speaker 4: He's gonna red shirt now, he's gonna try to go
Speaker 4: somewhere else. So that's where it's a he said. She said,
Speaker 4: we were promised. No, you weren't. You know here we are.
Speaker 4: It's going to continue. They don't want to pay him
Speaker 4: under case sounds like a lot, but it's but it's
Speaker 4: it's not that much.
Speaker 3: And you probably heard about it. Yeah with kind of money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was a million, that's what I yet
Speaker 4: one point two million one point The thing is with that,
Speaker 4: and you may know this better because you know them.
Speaker 4: They're international players. It was my impression that they were
Speaker 4: not allowed to get money like this.
Speaker 5: They're not until they declare or something city in the
Speaker 5: bank's or as girl or a promise.
Speaker 4: See the problem with this guy in Vegas. Nothing was written,
Speaker 4: nothing was written. They were George coming, came, come play
Speaker 4: for me. I'll get you one hundred thousand, I promise,
Speaker 4: and then you and then you're doing really well. There's
Speaker 4: also some thought that the kid went through and O
Speaker 4: and says I want some more money. You know, I
Speaker 4: want it. I want I want because you promised me this.
Speaker 4: But now I'm doing really well. Give me a bump.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to bump.
Speaker 5: I've said I know some of these players, and I've
Speaker 5: I've worked with them prior years with some of the
Speaker 5: early years of an IL and some of the layer years.
Speaker 5: And I have seen attitudes change, and I love no questions. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I see attitudes change.
Speaker 4: How about this because I brought this up after Arizona's
Speaker 4: a poor loss to Kansas State, and I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's true. I don't know. I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna apply it to this, just me thinking. Okay,
Speaker 4: so your ex player two or two or three, and
Speaker 4: you're getting an IL money.
Speaker 3: Let's say, when do they get paid?
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's just super second, they get paid upfront,
Speaker 4: and then you see this, what's the incentive incentive to play? Well,
Speaker 4: if you're already getting paid, that's true, do you get
Speaker 4: paid for doing work before work? Even for contractors who
Speaker 4: work at the house.
Speaker 5: Exactly once you get the money, or even the lawyer,
Speaker 5: you know, they change their attitude. You know, don't worry,
Speaker 5: I'll get you out of this blah blah blah, and
Speaker 5: then you pay him and nah, you better take the
Speaker 5: bleak or the contract I mean.
Speaker 3: And then it happens with the pros.
Speaker 5: You know, they hold out, they hold out, they finally
Speaker 5: get paid and they don't run as well. You know,
Speaker 5: so yeah, it's happening at this level and it definitely
Speaker 5: is changing.
Speaker 4: By the way, I know you're close to some of
Speaker 4: the guys who were here and have gone.
Speaker 3: Have you talked to Curly? No? No, no, not since
Speaker 3: he declared for Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm not since Kurt, Yeah, I have not
Speaker 5: talked to him, and follow I did. I talked to him.
Speaker 5: He didn't say anything. He just gave me his reasons,
Speaker 5: but never was the money the reason why he was.
Speaker 3: He just needed to start new fresh and told what
Speaker 3: he said, he said, you need to start wipe the
Speaker 3: slight clean.
Speaker 5: He has one more season to really showcase and his
Speaker 5: body's maen surreed and he was ready to do something else. Sure, sure,
Speaker 5: and then you see the other side of it one
Speaker 5: point two mill and well that's our help, you know,
Speaker 5: by the way, or you get to do a supermodel Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm gone for sure, I'll be right there. What about Propella,
Speaker 5: I have not talked to them or a key shot
Speaker 5: since they went to Miami, So I'm sure because they
Speaker 5: signed stuff for you, right, did that go out?
Speaker 3: Did they go did that price right away? We sold?
Speaker 5: We sold a lot of the left the pictures, the
Speaker 5: pictures because you had a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Hey, they got drafted a junior. Can you mark that
Speaker 3: price up? Yeah? And it was nice.
Speaker 4: They both went to the heat So oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: right right right, So you might be going to Miami.
Speaker 4: You go to Miami, let me know for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's go see. Yes, I go to the usually go
Speaker 4: every year to the Pretty People Conventioned you believe that? Okay,
Speaker 4: So we have brad Alice here in about seven minutes.
Speaker 4: Bradley is a former sports journalist. He said, I think
Speaker 4: you're working for the county or the city or something,
Speaker 4: but we don't get into that. He's coaching his kids.
Speaker 4: I think he's running into the same problems coach runs
Speaker 4: into when you're coaching kids in schools. And we'll get
Speaker 4: playing time and time and guess who causes the fuss? Mom,
Speaker 4: I don't even have to tell you.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I work with a lot of coaches, and
Speaker 5: I talked to him, and it's the issue all over
Speaker 5: you know, yes, you know, even even the sell point
Speaker 5: you know, ex coaches.
Speaker 4: That's probably the number one reason though misery it is
Speaker 4: it is, you know, and that and that's not universal
Speaker 4: to the stell Point or anybody.
Speaker 3: It's universal, absolutely because the country.
Speaker 4: Little junior gotta play and the more money you make,
Speaker 4: uh hey, can you get him in?
Speaker 5: But there's three other players that are better at that musition,
Speaker 5: you know, And how about and five coaches agreed that
Speaker 5: they're either better, just me saying.
Speaker 4: That, sure, And what about the kid who and he
Speaker 4: kind of mentions the kid who's a slacker, doesn't work
Speaker 4: hard in practice, just there because it doesn't show up
Speaker 4: all the time, and they still want to play.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, yep, the mommy and daddy,
Speaker 4: what's the problem? Well, this, this and this, oh that
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Play No.
Speaker 5: Even when I coached, I I would always even above talent,
Speaker 5: is the kid that tried the hard.
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I like twelve year old.
Speaker 4: Yeah see, and that's and that's there's still a level
Speaker 4: of wanting to win and be all that. But when
Speaker 4: you're younger, but yeah, you you kind of just go
Speaker 4: with exactly what you say. Everyone plays everyone. It's not
Speaker 4: a big deal. You're not on ESPN, right, you know
Speaker 4: you're not going to be in the paper. Right, Just
Speaker 4: enjoy your life because it turns quickly it does.
Speaker 3: This adulthood that everybody wants to wants to get to sucks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but sometimes you know, mommy is like, he's going.
Speaker 3: To be a pro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna get us out of the hood. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm sure my parents. Come on, my dad. My dad
Speaker 4: was not like that. That's that's a good thing. And
Speaker 4: either was I. You know, they're as good as they're
Speaker 4: going to be. The coaches handle them and then no, no, hey,
Speaker 4: that's their job, their life.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and at three seventeen or four seventeen, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Bruce Pasco from the Daily Star, one of my former colleagues.
Speaker 4: I saw him yesterday at the press conference. We're going
Speaker 4: to talk about the new schedule. Uh, and he's just
Speaker 4: his thoughts on Tommy Lloyd yesterday and uh next week,
Speaker 4: So red and Blue? Are you going to be part
Speaker 4: of that Red Blue? No, I'm not. No, look at you,
Speaker 4: you're little step away. But that's the game and Glen
Speaker 4: here a week later it's in Glendale. Okay, so that's
Speaker 4: the one I was thinking about. Yeah, to go up
Speaker 4: to it should be well, Bruce's will let us know
Speaker 4: what the tickets are like up there, because I guess
Speaker 4: there they were struggling.
Speaker 3: I guess I had to put the ticket price down.
Speaker 4: So we'll see what they're doing and then get a
Speaker 4: taste of the roster because he has an entourage, nonmourage,
Speaker 4: you know, all his assistants. And then he has nine
Speaker 4: walk ons. Wow, it's like having employees for you that
Speaker 4: don't get paid. You have a bunch of them.
Speaker 5: But they you know, they practice hard, you know it,
Speaker 5: so they kind of we need them for the team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do make the team better. The green team
Speaker 4: is that's what they're calling.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes at Oh, It's Steve Rivera
Speaker 1: and Jakin Salaz. This is I on the Ball on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 4: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 4: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, your George Matis and
Speaker 4: now on the phone, we have Brad Alice reporter, sports reporter,
Speaker 4: among other things.
Speaker 3: Who are you working for, Brad now?
Speaker 16: Sports wise, I'm just doing the podcast myself, the Wildcat
Speaker 16: Sportsport Podcast. But other otherwise, I'm working in local government.
Speaker 4: Okay, local government. You're You're the one I cursed that night. Okay,
Speaker 4: I get it. Hey, We're gonna we're gonna go a
Speaker 4: few different ways here with you, because I thought, let's go,
Speaker 4: let's go sports first, and then we'll talk about personal
Speaker 4: stuff because you're going through what millions of other coaches
Speaker 4: are going through in the world of sports. So what
Speaker 4: do you think about this football team? Your biggest concerns
Speaker 4: and maybe you're not concerned, but you're okay with you know, I.
Speaker 17: Think by two biggest concerns.
Speaker 16: One is just overall performance and how it relates to
Speaker 16: the transition. You know, I think we all expected, with
Speaker 16: so many players coming back, a smooth transition, but you know,
Speaker 16: we we've looked through enough of these that, you know,
Speaker 16: with the transfer portal with some key guys leaving, and
Speaker 16: it wasn't a ton of them, but there's always a transition.
Speaker 16: You guys in assuming new roles, you know, guys who
Speaker 16: haven't been coordinators in quite a while, some coordinator positions,
Speaker 16: some key pieces missing, some key injuries. And I think
Speaker 16: the transition from the team that we saw you know,
Speaker 16: beat up Assue come from behind against Oklahoma, it's not
Speaker 16: that team yet. And I think a lot of people
Speaker 16: are already jumping ship. I think it's way too early,
Speaker 16: you know. To me, one of the biggest concerns in
Speaker 16: the offensive line, and that was the case coming in
Speaker 16: and then when you lost the kid like Toledo, it magnified.
Speaker 16: Obviously had two or three kids who were really good. Well,
Speaker 16: you have throughout questions, and I think that has hampered
Speaker 16: the offense. You know, I don't think Dino Babers has
Speaker 16: found his rhythm yet. So those are my concerns. I
Speaker 16: think the thing that I'm not as concerned about that
Speaker 16: many people are as is the defense. Yeah, they weren't
Speaker 16: very good against New Mexico, and they clearly don't have
Speaker 16: the personnel they want for mobile quarterbacks. But you know,
Speaker 16: they shut down and in a U team to put
Speaker 16: sixty six on and grant it was like a D
Speaker 16: two team, and really you give up twenty four points
Speaker 16: as a defense, and it could have been thirty. You know,
Speaker 16: Campa State missed the fiogal, Kansas State misplayed the clock
Speaker 16: at the end of the game. But even thirty points
Speaker 16: on the road in the Big twelve is probably enough
Speaker 16: to put you in a position to win. You just
Speaker 16: can't score seven points and no points after the first drive.
Speaker 18: So I think, you know, Keen is.
Speaker 16: Catching a lot of heat. I'm not anywhere near there yet.
Speaker 16: Bavers is catching a lot of heat, and I completely
Speaker 16: understand why.
Speaker 4: So you've been here a long time, been around a
Speaker 4: long time. I've been around a long time. Arizona fans
Speaker 4: are are what they are. You know, you know who
Speaker 4: they are because you've seen the good and the bad.
Speaker 4: Do they have the cachet or the whatever it is,
Speaker 4: whatever word you want to use to be that critical
Speaker 4: of a team when they're sometimes good fans and sometimes
Speaker 4: bad fans, you know, or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: shouldn't they be more patient because they haven't really had
Speaker 4: a lot of success through the years.
Speaker 16: I think that's why they're impatient, because they got a glimpse.
Speaker 16: And you know, for those of you our age and
Speaker 16: maybe a titch younger, you unfortunately remember those two great
Speaker 16: Tony teams that you couldn't build upon. You know, you
Speaker 16: win the you win the you have the ball, You
Speaker 16: come around and you lay an egg and you go
Speaker 16: to the Freedom Bowl and lose to a team that didn't.
Speaker 18: Score a touchdown or got one touchdown.
Speaker 16: You know, then a couple of years later, you know,
Speaker 16: we all remember Penn State after.
Speaker 18: Winning the Holiday Bowl.
Speaker 16: And I think that's the fear. I think people are
Speaker 16: in a little bit of panic mode who've lived through it.
Speaker 16: Not again. They win ten games, jet Fish leaves but
Speaker 16: to get the guys back, but you know, things aren't
Speaker 16: quite what they were last year, and now you know
Speaker 16: that was the case those two years. They got the
Speaker 16: bulk of Desert Swarm back, They got the bulk of
Speaker 16: that team back, but missed a few key components and
Speaker 16: they weren't quite the same.
Speaker 18: And I think that's the fear.
Speaker 16: But that being said, you know, we've long said, I
Speaker 16: think you and I have had this succession. There's really
Speaker 16: thirty to forty thousand really good Arizona football.
Speaker 18: Fans in this town, and the rest pay attention when
Speaker 18: they're good.
Speaker 16: So those thirty and forty thousand, I think, remember these times,
Speaker 16: and you know, maybe not remember not being able to
Speaker 16: build upon rich Rod's yes the Bowl, even though that
Speaker 16: team went to what four or five straight bowls. So yeah,
Speaker 16: I think that's what is. I think the rest of
Speaker 16: them they just haven't lived through it, and then they
Speaker 16: expect things to turn around magically, and we all know,
Speaker 16: I think, maybe you know, half joking, half not, Arizona
Speaker 16: football always seem to have a little dark cloud, a
Speaker 16: little curse around it.
Speaker 5: Brad, This is George So you talked about transition with
Speaker 5: the players. Do you feel the transition with a coach
Speaker 5: with Fish and Brandham, does.
Speaker 3: That have more an impact.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're gonna see we have a huge game
Speaker 5: this weekend and I've seen the line. I think it's
Speaker 5: worth yeah, anywhere from nine and a half to eleven
Speaker 5: and a half, and we're going to see what type
Speaker 5: of football team we really are.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I think that's my top It is
Speaker 16: a transition of coaches have players.
Speaker 18: It's that whole.
Speaker 16: It's not easy to flip a program, especially it was
Speaker 16: so late in the process too or they basically lost
Speaker 16: half a recruiting class, if not more that a lot
Speaker 16: of those guys were going to play this year. They
Speaker 16: had to re recruit a bunch of their own players.
Speaker 16: You have to put in your entire you know, not
Speaker 16: even just the opfensive defensive system, but you know how
Speaker 16: our practices run, How is the weight room done, how
Speaker 16: is the training table done, How is academics covered. You
Speaker 16: add to that a new you know, administration athletically. You know,
Speaker 16: there's a lot of things behind the scenes we don't
Speaker 16: see that all have to be adapted to and some
Speaker 16: transitions are easy some or not. And I think this
Speaker 16: one has been maybe a little tougher than than than
Speaker 16: we had previously seen. You know, Brennan's coming into a
Speaker 16: program from.
Speaker 17: A really not only San Jose State's much closer to a.
Speaker 16: One double A program than they are to say, San
Speaker 16: Diego State. You know, he had to actually raise funds
Speaker 16: to feed his kids.
Speaker 18: He has players.
Speaker 16: Santogate States, a commuter school that happens to compete in
Speaker 16: the Mountain West. But they're again, they're far more like
Speaker 16: a Portland State or a Sacramento State than they are
Speaker 16: San Diego State or a you know, Fresno State that
Speaker 16: are firmly established football programs. So I think that's been
Speaker 16: a tough transition for everybody. But if you would ask
Speaker 16: me before the season if they would be two and
Speaker 16: two after these first four games, I thought there was
Speaker 16: a good chance.
Speaker 17: Kansas State's a tough road trip.
Speaker 3: With a very good team.
Speaker 16: Utah is I think, and I don't think anyone's gonna argue.
Speaker 16: I thought they coming into the season with the best
Speaker 16: team in the Big twelve, salt like it's a tough
Speaker 16: place to play. Now, what I want to see is
Speaker 16: that wants you a measuring stick gime because they didn't
Speaker 16: look good in Manhattan camps. He did not look as
Speaker 16: good as I thought they were. I want to see
Speaker 16: them if they go. If they lose, but they're within
Speaker 16: striking distance of a win midway through the fourth quarter.
Speaker 18: I'll be happy. I'll be fine.
Speaker 16: I'll think this team can still do some good things
Speaker 16: in Big Twelve. If they lay an egg like they
Speaker 16: did in Manhattan, then there's some serious trouble trying to
Speaker 16: reevaluate the season. Then you're probably hoping, you know, to
Speaker 16: get to a bowl game, Whereas I think even if
Speaker 16: you lose to Utah, that's the best team.
Speaker 17: You're going to see.
Speaker 16: You give Utah a scare even better, let's pull off
Speaker 16: the win. But then you can say, Okay, they can
Speaker 16: finish top four or five in the Big twelve, which
Speaker 16: is still going to be a very good football team.
Speaker 16: Maybe you can finish second, ye you know, maybe you
Speaker 16: can go you know, can and two's probably asking too
Speaker 16: much of a team that's two and two, But can
Speaker 16: you go nine and three? Can you get into that
Speaker 16: Big twelve championship game?
Speaker 18: Can you at least have.
Speaker 16: Your name mentioned for the twelve team playoff? And I
Speaker 16: think that's what you want to see. But if you
Speaker 16: get your doors blown off, yeah, you're probably looking at
Speaker 16: a five hundred team if you're lucky.
Speaker 3: Do we know of Cam Riss playing?
Speaker 17: No, I don't think anyone.
Speaker 16: I haven't heard, you know. I think it's interesting you
Speaker 16: got two very different quarterbacks. Ones basically I think with
Speaker 16: the high school with Steve and I and the other
Speaker 16: one is now nineteen years old Rising. You know, one
Speaker 16: is put together with bailing wire and duct tape and
Speaker 16: the other one is the brother of an NFL player.
Speaker 16: So I think both kids are good too. I think Wilson's,
Speaker 16: you know, pretty good, but obviously Rising's, you know, his
Speaker 16: record speaks for himself.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So last question on last question on football. So you
Speaker 4: may have been guilty of this. So back in the day,
Speaker 4: I probably was. Everybody in this community is you know?
Speaker 4: And I asked Liv this a couple of days ago.
Speaker 4: Do the locals or did the locals hype this team
Speaker 4: more than it should? We're we're in a small market.
Speaker 4: Let's let's face this fact, and we we write what
Speaker 4: we're fan, we believe what we believe. Do you think
Speaker 4: that maybe a time or two some of US, and
Speaker 4: I'll conclude me because you know what, the hell, uh
Speaker 4: may have may have sold a bag of goods that
Speaker 4: may not have been there.
Speaker 16: Well, I'm gonna not speak from someone I picked.
Speaker 3: They wins.
Speaker 18: I thought they could win ten or eleven.
Speaker 16: But I thought again, I thought they were missing some pieces.
Speaker 16: I thought the schedule was much more difficult. They caught
Speaker 16: some breaks last year, and granted they could have won
Speaker 16: two more games.
Speaker 18: They could have beat.
Speaker 16: Sc they could, but they also could have lost the Stampord.
Speaker 16: They could have lost to Colorado. You know, so I thought,
Speaker 16: you know, the eight and a half number, I thought
Speaker 16: that Vegas is putting out there was probably a very
Speaker 16: good number. Yeah. I think a lot of people automatically
Speaker 16: assume when you get the two high profile guys, you
Speaker 16: know three if you want to count Sabine, you get
Speaker 16: the return of Akina. You got a guy who probably
Speaker 16: money should have been hired Originally, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 16: think people over hype them a little bit. But if
Speaker 16: you look at the national guys, you know, they picked
Speaker 16: them forth, fifth, sixth, and the Big twelve.
Speaker 17: They picked eight or nine games.
Speaker 3: They had them learning right on the money.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, flirting with the championship playoff, but not
Speaker 16: stamping them in. So I think, yes, locally, some people
Speaker 16: over hype them, and I get it, you have a
Speaker 16: quarterback and you have a generational receiver. But I think
Speaker 16: realistically a lot of people also had it right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, let's switch to basketball real quick. What's going
Speaker 4: to happen? Tommy Lloyd came and did his press coverage yesterday,
Speaker 4: kind of was vague and a lot of different things.
Speaker 4: We know all the principal players. They have the nine guys,
Speaker 4: pretty good players.
Speaker 3: So what do you see?
Speaker 16: You know, my question is how do they mesh? How
Speaker 16: do you know who is Traight Townsend ready for twenty
Speaker 16: five games against big time competition? You know, the WAKA
Speaker 16: ready to be everything that physically he looks like he
Speaker 16: can be. The previous step up Jayden Bradley become a
Speaker 16: guy for thirty minutes a night that he was for
Speaker 16: twenty two minutes to night. You know, where's kJ Lewis,
Speaker 16: Where's Carter Brant? How do they fit together? There's a
Speaker 16: ton of talent on this team, but they're gonna go
Speaker 16: through a meat grinder of the of the of the
Speaker 16: Big Twelve.
Speaker 18: It's the best conference in America.
Speaker 16: I think they're gonna have what seven or eight ranked
Speaker 16: teams in those polls. I actually think it's good for Arizona.
Speaker 16: They may lose one or two more. But you can't
Speaker 16: sleep walk, you know, you can't. First of all, you're
Speaker 16: going into great environments. Even the bad teams have very
Speaker 16: good basketball environments. You're not going to Corvallis, Oregon, where
Speaker 16: you're getting shushed by the biology.
Speaker 17: Majors who are studying the court side.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you're going into Ames, Iowa. You're going you know, Steeve,
Speaker 16: you and I have been there. Tell me there's a
Speaker 16: better environment in college basketball than than Lawrence, Kansas. It
Speaker 16: might be, it might be Cameron, but that's you know,
Speaker 16: that's the short list. You've got to be on your
Speaker 16: A game, and and I think Tommy's been pretty good
Speaker 16: at that.
Speaker 18: In the regular season.
Speaker 16: It all comes down to posts and people are waiting
Speaker 16: for the deeper run. And unfortunately, I don't know if
Speaker 16: they're good enough to get beyond the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 18: A lot of it's going to be match up.
Speaker 16: But unfortunately people won't fully buy in, I think until
Speaker 16: they get to the elite, until they get to a.
Speaker 18: Final four, and you and I have.
Speaker 17: Done this for so long, we know it's a crapshoot.
Speaker 16: One bad shooting night, one bad match up, one bad meal,
Speaker 16: and you got two kids who aren't feeling good and
Speaker 16: your season's ruined. So again, the opposite that can happen
Speaker 16: for the other team, and you get a little bit
Speaker 16: of magic and you get a guy you know, going
Speaker 16: coals in the field and suddenly you have ninety seven
Speaker 16: or or eighty eight or whatever. So I think this
Speaker 16: seems could be very very good. But they got a
Speaker 16: lot of questions to answer, but the talent's there.
Speaker 17: It's just how do they fit together?
Speaker 3: And when was the last time we said they were
Speaker 3: not there, weren't going to be very good? Good? Right,
Speaker 3: it's been a right, it's been a while, Okay, Just.
Speaker 17: So yeah, I think there was one of a couple
Speaker 17: of the Shan teams that weren't.
Speaker 4: Sure at the end, right, right, right, Georgie, you have
Speaker 4: one question about anything with the best book.
Speaker 3: Because I wanted to go to his real life.
Speaker 4: Oh go ahead, Okay, so your real lifestyle, you're you're
Speaker 4: dealing with with real world issues right now. You're a
Speaker 4: coach of kids and you have an issue of playing time. Well,
Speaker 4: I shocked me, I fell out field, knuck me be
Speaker 4: down with a feather.
Speaker 18: Well, here's so so, I got a prefaces.
Speaker 17: I don't want to get in too many details.
Speaker 16: My son plays on two teams. He plays Little League baseball,
Speaker 16: which I am the coach. He plays middle school football,
Speaker 16: which I am just an observer. And the playing time
Speaker 16: issue was over the middle school football. Some parents complained
Speaker 16: because you know it's a mixed team, seventh and eighth graders,
Speaker 16: a lot of eighth graders. We're getting the playing time.
Speaker 16: I am. I have the benefit of a flexible job.
Speaker 16: I get to watch pick him up from his practice.
Speaker 18: I like to watch the last half hour. I used
Speaker 18: to be high school.
Speaker 16: Football coach, and I can see who's doing what, who's
Speaker 16: buying in. Let's just say some parents complain. Some kids
Speaker 16: played who I won't even say don't deserve to play,
Speaker 16: probably physically.
Speaker 17: You know, you know ste if you went through soccer.
Speaker 16: Yeah, soccer is a mentally physically demanding sport.
Speaker 17: But you can hide a kid who.
Speaker 16: Maybe doesn't know what he's doing or hasn't done all
Speaker 16: the conditioning, and you can go play him a you know,
Speaker 16: midfield and he's not gonna get hurt, and he's not
Speaker 16: gonna get anyone else hurt. And maybe some kids played
Speaker 16: who just should have been on the field because they
Speaker 16: haven't done the conditioning and haven't learned the plays, and
Speaker 16: it just wasn't an overall good situation. I vented on
Speaker 16: Facebook that said not to vent to the school because
Speaker 16: it wouldn't do any good. And it seems like the
Speaker 16: situation is kind of rectified itself.
Speaker 18: But you know, I thought I.
Speaker 16: Deal assist in little league. I'm president of Flowing Well's
Speaker 16: Little League. I coached one of the teams, but that
Speaker 16: is reck ball. Everyone plays.
Speaker 18: I make sure I mix my lineups. I'm not I'd
Speaker 18: much rather have kids.
Speaker 16: Develop school Ball, to me, should be a little bit different.
Speaker 18: You're I got roped into it.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I supposed to be third assistant. I'm head coach
Speaker 16: of my sons.
Speaker 5: Well, so what is the issue your kids not getting
Speaker 5: the playing time or they're complaining that.
Speaker 17: Ironically enough, there's no issue with my kid.
Speaker 16: My kid lost a few snaps because they let some
Speaker 16: other kids play. My bigger concern was there were some
Speaker 16: kids who did lose their snaps who were there every
Speaker 16: day running, you know, keeping their grades up doing everything
Speaker 16: they're supposed to do. And I and I again, when
Speaker 16: I coached I school football, I found ways to get
Speaker 16: some kids who weren't good but did all the work
Speaker 16: in the games.
Speaker 17: And you know, I'm not saying the staff didn't.
Speaker 16: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 17: I don't want to demeanor some kids who.
Speaker 16: Haven't done everything they're supposed to do well were mandated.
Speaker 18: To play even though maybe they.
Speaker 16: Don't do all the running or any running.
Speaker 18: Who missed practice who.
Speaker 17: So that was what kind of came out.
Speaker 18: But yet my son was not even impacted.
Speaker 17: I you know, my son.
Speaker 16: Went from the snaps to eighty five percent of them.
Speaker 16: He wasn't impacted. I felt bad for other kids, and
Speaker 16: I felt that there was a safety issue.
Speaker 3: Right, No, I get it.
Speaker 4: I mean it's every coach's nightmare, especially when you have
Speaker 4: higher ups telling you, well, you know, I got a
Speaker 4: call from this my mom and then maybe you need
Speaker 4: to play them, and yeah, yeah, you know, come on
Speaker 4: me alone.
Speaker 16: Well, to me, that's what Little League's for. Heck, the
Speaker 16: weird one is club because you're paying.
Speaker 18: A kid to play, but then it's super cutthroat.
Speaker 16: Again, if this was stated in the beginning, everyone plays
Speaker 16: I'll pay great, but they pivoted mid season and again
Speaker 16: I don't.
Speaker 18: Again, I understand, you have to try.
Speaker 16: You know, these administrators, it's a smaller school. They're dealing
Speaker 16: with Internet threats, they're dealing with you know, kids who
Speaker 16: can now do substances in a in a thing that
Speaker 16: looks like a jump drive that you know, guys when
Speaker 16: we were a kid had to go out to the
Speaker 16: behind the bleachers and do an elaborate rolling there about.
Speaker 16: I mean, they've got more things to worry about than
Speaker 16: a couple of kid parents complaining. Again, and at the
Speaker 16: end of the day, I was I was just kind
Speaker 16: of vented on Facebook.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know that was that was a long vent.
Speaker 4: We gotta go. But I read a lot of it.
Speaker 4: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: I get it?
Speaker 17: You could read it all long?
Speaker 3: No, it was it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little much for me. Yeah, thanks, Brad,
Speaker 4: appreciate your time. Have a good all right, take it.
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Speaker 3: And so you you said you were a coacher earlier,
Speaker 3: your coach the Little league majors.
Speaker 4: I'm sure if I asked you how many times you
Speaker 4: had to deal with a bunch of crap is more
Speaker 4: than two days, than ten than ten times?
Speaker 5: The moms and a lot of times it was the moms,
Speaker 5: not the dads. No, the moms. There was one mom
Speaker 5: that got arrested during the game. It was really crad
Speaker 5: during an All Star game. Yeah, and it was what
Speaker 5: was sad. It was one of our moms and she
Speaker 5: went over and kind of I think she smacked the
Speaker 5: other moms and they called the police and they did.
Speaker 3: They coughed her up and threw her in the car
Speaker 3: in front of all the kids.
Speaker 5: It was holy. I mean, and this is fifteen years ago.
Speaker 5: It was getting that bad. I can only imagine now.
Speaker 4: Right, No, no, but that's kind of when it started,
Speaker 4: you know, the TV and the TV with the phones
Speaker 4: and the social media and let me too, it happened
Speaker 4: well before that too.
Speaker 3: But so they were fighting with each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're you know, they would let him
Speaker 5: hit and you know, and the kids not letting him hit.
Speaker 3: It just but now it's stems, you know, I hear it.
Speaker 3: I talked to a lot of coaches.
Speaker 5: We know a lot of coaches, a lot of you know,
Speaker 5: like some of the major programs here, football programs here
Speaker 5: in town, and I've talked to them and they're like,
Speaker 5: you know, the parents are giving us pressure. And he's like,
Speaker 5: it's not just me as a head coach or an
Speaker 5: assistant coach.
Speaker 3: We have nineteen coaches and.
Speaker 5: We all agree that this player is better, so he's
Speaker 5: going to get the playtime instead of your son.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, right, you know, and that's part
Speaker 3: of the job. I get it.
Speaker 4: And what do you tell the parent Either he needs
Speaker 4: to get better or he's just not capable of playing.
Speaker 5: We're trying to win state championship here at these levels,
Speaker 5: you know, right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: So what else? What else did you kind of run into?
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know that was the you can't coach?
Speaker 4: What the hell you doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm sure you heard that?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, you know it's I was a
Speaker 5: good coach. I took pride and I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, but I'm from the from the people telling you,
Speaker 4: because whether you felt that or not, be I'm sure
Speaker 4: they're saying you don't know talent, you know?
Speaker 5: Oh yes, John, I hear you absolutely every everything they
Speaker 5: can think of, you know, you have something against them
Speaker 5: or no, you know, I want to win at that level.
Speaker 5: Though it was more just I think what Brad was
Speaker 5: saying is we're going to play the kids that are
Speaker 5: trying hard, that show up, stay after their working, not
Speaker 5: the guys that come in late, miss half the practices
Speaker 5: and still want equal play time. Now, if you're missing
Speaker 5: the practice, you're gonna sit out a little.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, no matter how good you are to the
Speaker 4: good people. Absolutely yeah, because you know, and nothing in
Speaker 4: this world is fair. But that's as fair as you
Speaker 4: can get. Yeah, exactly know what I'm saying. So we'll see.
Speaker 4: I think it's everyone's the way to heaven having to
Speaker 4: coach kids. Really, everyone should, you know, even volunteer to do.
Speaker 3: Just packing my back. You think you can do better,
Speaker 3: Let's do it, Steve, you and I and we'll talk
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: I do, I do need to get to heaven, so
Speaker 4: maybe we do it right. Okay, anybody want to call
Speaker 4: please do five two oh four one, six, seventy four forty.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are some coaches out there listening and say,
Speaker 4: oh god, come on, that's every day and we'd hear it.
Speaker 4: We're dealing with it every day. You guys are not
Speaker 4: talking about. But Brad wrote like a monster story. I'm
Speaker 4: thinking this is the playtac with Brad. And I'll say
Speaker 4: this because he did like a huge Facebook poach, I
Speaker 4: mean a lot of words and then he said, wow,
Speaker 4: do you want to send it to the to the school.
Speaker 4: You put it in public view.
Speaker 3: What's the point. I'm sure they saw it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: He was an Arizona star guy.
Speaker 4: Okay, again, if you want to call five two oh
Speaker 4: four one, six, seventy four forty, were you ready for
Speaker 4: your call? If you want to call in a big game?
Speaker 4: You talked about a big game, so Brad said, and Alwa's.
Speaker 3: Talked about this. They have to.
Speaker 4: I think they have to in order not to lose
Speaker 4: a lot of fans and and everybody you know, bitching,
Speaker 4: and they have to play close at least they within
Speaker 4: the within a touchdown, just because you know, even the
Speaker 4: spread is ten or whatever, rest than I even forget that.
Speaker 4: But if they can stay within seven, maybe have a chance.
Speaker 4: You're gonna say, Okay, I get it. Maybe it was
Speaker 4: just a bad game against Kansas State. Like you said,
Speaker 4: they could be the best in the division. They were
Speaker 4: playing there. That's a tough place to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my whole thing with that, And I've said this
Speaker 4: the number of times and the listeners will probably say enough, Steve,
Speaker 4: they just didn't play with any kind of conviction after
Speaker 4: that first drive. And you know you have employees, right,
Speaker 4: you tell me how many eight eight okay, And you know,
Speaker 4: you go to work and you see them and sometimes
Speaker 4: they're enthusiastic and they're happy to be there, but there
Speaker 4: are times when you know they don't want to be there,
Speaker 4: and you can, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Literally like smile at them, like just try this for once,
Speaker 5: just smile, you know, and then they kind of.
Speaker 3: You send them home if they know. But but you know, with.
Speaker 5: Today's you can get a negative review for an employee
Speaker 5: being rude or because they do because it didn't greet
Speaker 5: them properly.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I did that today.
Speaker 4: In fact, I was at a fast food price and
Speaker 4: I went in and they asked you for the order.
Speaker 4: They're not very happy to see you or whatever. And
Speaker 4: they're younger, you're younger, and then you get in line
Speaker 4: and you pay, and then they give you this no
Speaker 4: thank you, no appreciation, and I'm saying thank you. Wait
Speaker 4: a second, why did I say thank you? I paid
Speaker 4: them for the food?
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: And it's uh, I mean, it's it's changed. It definitely
Speaker 5: has changed. But you know, we have a great staff,
Speaker 5: great team. I think we got a call. You're on
Speaker 5: the air, eye on the ball.
Speaker 16: Hey, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 3: This is it?
Speaker 4: I thought you lost our number, man, Jay Leaves, and
Speaker 4: you start to come no, man.
Speaker 3: Don't cry.
Speaker 21: I I just had a call and chime in on
Speaker 21: the thing. And and I'll be honest, I mean you
Speaker 21: kind of know a little bit about me. I've coached
Speaker 21: in California for years and been with some of the
Speaker 21: best baseball and basketball players that you know that from
Speaker 21: high school, college and pro. But this this all started,
Speaker 21: and I don't know if George you can agree, is
Speaker 21: with the advent of travel ball and you got to
Speaker 21: pay big money and you're paying big money and you
Speaker 21: want to see your kid play no matter what, and
Speaker 21: uh yes, And I'll tell.
Speaker 3: You you know.
Speaker 21: We we were in East LA and we had to
Speaker 21: go to either Orange County or the Implant Empire to
Speaker 21: get the base best softball competition there was. And we
Speaker 21: had to work. I mean we had to travel two
Speaker 21: hours ago to our hitting coach. And then like Brad
Speaker 21: and I think you just kind of said a little
Speaker 21: bit about George. You you got kids that don't work,
Speaker 21: The parents don't work, they bring them late, they don't
Speaker 21: show up to practice, and then your kid is just
Speaker 21: hit for two hours on his own and then they
Speaker 21: want playing.
Speaker 5: Time, absolutely, And do they not see what's what's happening?
Speaker 3: They do? They know?
Speaker 4: Right, Well, if they're sensible, they know what's going on.
Speaker 4: And they too, Well, it doesn't matter. I mean, it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter because the rules don't apply.
Speaker 3: And that's dedication.
Speaker 21: And I'm going to give you a couple of names.
Speaker 21: I was real close with South Hill's foughtball program. We
Speaker 21: had a kid named Natalie Lugo that was pitching and
Speaker 21: she went on to be a high school All American,
Speaker 21: pitched at Florida for four years. And there was a
Speaker 21: girl behind her. And don't get me wrong, this girl
Speaker 21: behind her was good, but she wasn't on Natalie Lugo's level.
Speaker 21: And her parents theoriously went to the to the district,
Speaker 21: to the principal, every which way you could go to.
Speaker 21: And even my daughter went to a few games, said
Speaker 21: does she know? Do they know who's in front of her?
Speaker 21: Like she wasn't going to beat her out, like go
Speaker 21: to another school or go somewhere out because but that's
Speaker 21: that's how bad it gets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't you think that, Well, don't you think that's
Speaker 4: one of the reasons why they people transfer? Well, money
Speaker 4: now and transfer because they have no spot fit to
Speaker 4: fit in.
Speaker 21: Well, it used to be like that, see, but now
Speaker 21: it's kind of like uh, and you said, I think
Speaker 21: yesterday the Ruben Douglastan where okay, he left and he
Speaker 21: did great, but he wasn't gonna beat out Gilbert.
Speaker 3: No, no, he saw.
Speaker 21: The writing on the wall. Sure, and but you've got
Speaker 21: to be either kind of wait your turn a Jason
Speaker 21: Terry where he waited his turn and look at things
Speaker 21: turned out great for him. Well, and you gotta work harder?
Speaker 21: Or when when does it come to a parent that says, hey,
Speaker 21: you know what, you better go condition more, you better
Speaker 21: go hit more, you better go uh hitch more, or
Speaker 21: whatever that that that those words don't come out of.
Speaker 21: And I'm still involved even that I moved to Tucson
Speaker 21: in the softball world, and I've seen it still where
Speaker 21: people are not gonna They're not gonna say work harder,
Speaker 21: They're gonna move on or complain or do what they
Speaker 21: they do. Well, you have that an article and I
Speaker 21: read that thing and it took me two days that
Speaker 21: but that, seriously, that article hit it on the head
Speaker 21: where he said, hey, these are kids that don't go
Speaker 21: to practice and don't run sprints after and parents still
Speaker 21: want them to get that playing time over kids that
Speaker 21: are out there working their tail off in class and
Speaker 21: on the field.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you, you said a phrase here, wait
Speaker 4: their turn. Nobody waits their turn anymore.
Speaker 3: They don't. They don't see that.
Speaker 21: That's the honest God's true that they all are gonna transfer,
Speaker 21: move on or whatever. And that's in college, high school,
Speaker 21: and now even at the youth level.
Speaker 3: Well, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 4: And I said this because you know you listen to
Speaker 4: me regularly or us regularly. Back in the day for Luke,
Speaker 4: when the guys would come here, like the Shawn Ellens
Speaker 4: and the Eddrick Bohannan's, and they said, the one mistake
Speaker 4: I made was I didn't have enough patience.
Speaker 3: And they left.
Speaker 4: And guess what, had they stayed like JT, like Jason Terry,
Speaker 4: they eventually would have become that guy. They instead they
Speaker 4: went somewhere else to be the guy. But they didn't
Speaker 4: learn the same things. So it's easy to be the guy,
Speaker 4: But what are you learning? What are you learning if
Speaker 4: you're playing under a coach that really doesn't really can't
Speaker 4: coach you so it makes sense.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. And I'm going to
Speaker 21: tell you one real little quick story. I know, you
Speaker 21: guys got to go. My daughter broke her finger and
Speaker 21: sixteen year old and we were on a nationally rankedinging
Speaker 21: and they brought in this girl, and man, this girls
Speaker 21: could just hit bombs. So we stood on the practice
Speaker 21: field when she was getting better and I said, hey,
Speaker 21: when you get better, you better go to first or
Speaker 21: the outfield, because you ain't going to third. And she goes, no, crap, man,
Speaker 21: I ain't gonna beat her out.
Speaker 4: You know you can see what's in front of you
Speaker 4: right well, you know what, that's reality.
Speaker 3: I mean you saw it.
Speaker 4: Either your daughter would have to get better right tomorrow,
Speaker 4: in a day or whatever.
Speaker 3: But you but you that's realistic. That's realistic. Yeah, no
Speaker 3: one's realistic.
Speaker 21: But Brad's article hit home. I even called a couple
Speaker 21: of coaches here and we all read it. And then
Speaker 21: it just kind of makes you mad nowadays, and I
Speaker 21: hate to use this term or whatever, but is it
Speaker 21: it's that woke mentality that everybody gets everything on a
Speaker 21: silver platter.
Speaker 3: Nowadays, right right? And see the last thing.
Speaker 21: Is it's worse now, and it's because you pay now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, But even then, you have
Speaker 4: to be realistic. And if your little Johnny isn't good enough,
Speaker 4: guess what he has to be.
Speaker 3: He has to get better. He just do yes, right,
Speaker 3: that's right. Okay, thank you guys.
Speaker 17: I appreciate it.
Speaker 21: Hey you guys falls down great today.
Speaker 3: Great, thank you, Thank you for I have my boy Georgia.
Speaker 3: Are you ready to go?
Speaker 4: Are you ready to go? We've got time. Okay, you're
Speaker 4: the boss. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3: We're going. We'll come back with breaking news on the
Speaker 3: other side.