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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jake.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, good afternoon, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In today with me is

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<v Speaker 4>George Modes of the showtime cards and taking control of

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<v Speaker 4>the board is Ryan. So we're good to go. We're

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<v Speaker 4>a live right. Hey, I want to ask you, George.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you have four point five million dollars in

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<v Speaker 4>the bank somewhere. Can you be a partner in my show?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey? I like the new studio. I mean this is

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<v Speaker 5>probably over my budget. This stuff looks great, sounds great

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<v Speaker 5>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's taken about a week or so to get used

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<v Speaker 3>to the stuff. I think the.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys know what they're doing now and they are very comfortable, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 4>because I have no idea what those buttons.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh this is awesome. I'll put some picks.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, So you don't have four point five to

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<v Speaker 4>go after the show, hey, car Bble the Ball the

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<v Speaker 4>Ball Golden Auctions so tell me, So tell me are

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<v Speaker 4>they going about it the right way or how If

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<v Speaker 4>you got that ball, what.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you doing with You're gonna sell it? They didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to give it back, so you have to. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean that's that's it's a lottery ticket exactly. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, So what's start with the with the beginning price

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<v Speaker 4>and then say X amount for write out purchase?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I mean you follow with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there is a reserve, so it's got to

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<v Speaker 5>meet They're going to start it and it's got to

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<v Speaker 5>meet the reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? So if it.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't sell for this price, they don't have to sell it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and then he just keeps it. Yeah, what's he

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<v Speaker 5>gonna do with the ball? That means nothing to him exactly,

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<v Speaker 5>But it's worth a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>Todd McFarlane bought the ball that was the Mark McGuire.

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<v Speaker 5>Three million dollars he spent on that and then now

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me.

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<v Speaker 5>Three thousand, really, I mean it's probably it's I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know how, don't even think someone would give them thirty thousand?

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<v Speaker 4>Really give me the give me the reasons why? Because

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<v Speaker 4>I can assume the reasons why, but because it's been broken,

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<v Speaker 4>it went legitimately, or the main.

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<v Speaker 5>Reason is the steroids. Yeah yeah, okay, the steroids was broken.

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<v Speaker 5>There was Sosa, there was Barry bonds. He had to

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<v Speaker 5>buy them all.

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<v Speaker 3>He spent. He's probably five million into it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've talked to him, I know him personally, Todd McFarlane,

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<v Speaker 5>and you can see it kind of hurts him, but

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<v Speaker 5>he says it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure, I'm just going to keep him.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got to keep him because he can't sell them.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, not even to the guys that want that they

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<v Speaker 4>have the record or their record.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, they would. I guess they'd pay a thousand yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>exactly ten thousand dollars right times three?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Wow, that's the Well there you go with your investment,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Are However, he's approaching sixty sixty. Oh this well, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean what if what if he hits the sixty sixty?

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<v Speaker 5>Now this one's kind of worthless as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so yeah, just to screw this dude, I hope

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<v Speaker 4>he gets the sixty.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean too because to me, he wanted it, Oh

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<v Speaker 5>Toney wanted it, asked for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what what would you have taken for it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you grab it. You know, he wants it, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the organization wants it. And Jay and I were sitting

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<v Speaker 4>here when I was going to happen. I'm thinking, don't

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<v Speaker 4>be greedy about it, you know. Okay, five hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's fine. That's a lot of money. Four point

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<v Speaker 4>five that's just kind of too. That's just a lot, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>So what would you take for it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and they were even offering other like season tickets. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I signed Jersey and you know, he was being pretty generous.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted it.

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<v Speaker 5>Rights. It's hard to say, you know, because you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's millions. Oh oh sure, even if it's not four

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<v Speaker 5>point five million, you know, it's a couple of millions.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, it's millions, but it could not be millions, like

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<v Speaker 4>the farming situation. Right, Well, what if he gets to

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<v Speaker 4>the sixties ye yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, what what is it? He's at fifty seven?

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<v Speaker 5>I think fifty seven and fifty three? Yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>good luck you games?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the home runs my not happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're in that business. It's that's how crazy it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they just had a they had a collective

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<v Speaker 5>southe the Bees with fanatics, and they did high end

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<v Speaker 5>sports cards. Some of these cards that I used to

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<v Speaker 5>own were selling for sixty thousand dollars and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, I had that card, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and they were they did this high end auction and millions,

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<v Speaker 5>millions across the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just like the stock market. Yeah, hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>They had their bitter paddles and they're you know, flipping

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<v Speaker 5>up in insane numbers. Well, we lived for cards that

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<v Speaker 5>that I possessed, you know, And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>then you got rid of them?

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<v Speaker 3>Say yeah, I sold them for opinions on the dollar.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there was one that I regret. It was

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<v Speaker 5>a Lebron James Uh. It was the ultimate collection autograph Rookie.

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<v Speaker 5>There was twenty five of them, but mine was a

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<v Speaker 5>pristine ten. I sold it for sixty five hundred. A

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<v Speaker 5>few years later it flipped on eBay for eighty three thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that card's probably three hundred k, quarter million easy,

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<v Speaker 5>and I sold it for sixty five hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>That one hurts.

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<v Speaker 4>You geeks know how to live, Yeah, his car card

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<v Speaker 4>collecting geeks, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fine art for the sports enthusiast. Uh, billionaires and millionaires,

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<v Speaker 5>it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So so uh And do they collect We've got through

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of this stuff before.

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<v Speaker 3>But do they.

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<v Speaker 4>Collect for that purpose of trying to hit the gold mine?

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<v Speaker 4>Or they collect because they're they're just dudes. They like

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, hope like to do it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>accidentally fall into something that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>They on those type of cards. They do collect for

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<v Speaker 5>the investment. You may think that, oh, they're super geeks

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<v Speaker 5>and they're you know, they're they're uber fans. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>they know what they're doing, of course, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>they're investment.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they have money.

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<v Speaker 5>Then Hendricks the owner of the Diamondbacks. He has probably

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<v Speaker 5>the best baseball card collection in the world. And he

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<v Speaker 5>also has a team. He has a team, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>worth four billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but that's a different level because you have

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<v Speaker 4>the money and you can kind of afford the hit exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. Why do they do it? Because because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't need the money. Why they do it?

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<v Speaker 5>They I mean, they have a packy It's like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like fine art. You know what, Sometimes you look

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<v Speaker 5>at those pieces you don't pick out like God is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not that cool.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a million dollars cool, you know, so it's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of extra. They just really enjoyed and they already

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<v Speaker 5>have the cars and everything else, so why not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because this reminds me.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Santa Fe for the summer and I

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<v Speaker 4>went through it just a shop, you know, downtown, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was a nice, big piece, and I'm thinking that

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<v Speaker 4>would go, that would go perfect in my living room, right,

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<v Speaker 4>a big, big wall. And I'm thinking, Okay, that's about

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four hundred. Blah blah blah, went and said that's

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<v Speaker 4>fifty two thousand. I think, okay, good crab. Never mind,

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<v Speaker 4>never mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they have some beautiful pieces, you know, and a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of artists live there and and reside there.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, and you wouldn't know that they're an artist because

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<v Speaker 4>they're just dudes on you know, on the.

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<v Speaker 5>Sidewalk who looked like you needed buck. You're John Martin's

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<v Speaker 5>from Santa Fe. Yeah, the writer of Game of Thrones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>same thing. You would have known he's, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden he creates this yeah, this saga

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<v Speaker 5>and it's on HBO and.

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<v Speaker 4>So, so we live in a world, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>we have always lived in this world where money talks

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<v Speaker 4>and all that crap, because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you're doing it in your world. Now we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Nil. Do you see what happened with the Vegas guy,

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback who you look like your surprise, where have

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<v Speaker 4>you been in the last twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>Hours you've been You've been sleeping working. No, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 5>to set up this house.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So okay, So I just wanted to get your impression,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'll explain the story. So Vegas, UNILV guy quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>he moved in from We're transferred from Holy Cross.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you know, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>He says he was promised one hundred thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 4>go and play there. The coaches are denying it. So

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<v Speaker 4>there're three and O. He's the starting quarterback. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>they're okay, they're better than they've ever been. Actually, and

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<v Speaker 4>he says, I didn't get paid.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out. Wow. So he's quit the team.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna red shirt now, he's gonna try to go

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere else. So that's where it's a he said. She said,

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<v Speaker 4>we were promised. No, you weren't. You know here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to continue. They don't want to pay him

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<v Speaker 4>under case sounds like a lot, but it's but it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's not that much.

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<v Speaker 3>And you probably heard about it. Yeah with kind of money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it was a million, that's what I yet

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<v Speaker 4>one point two million one point The thing is with that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you may know this better because you know them.

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<v Speaker 4>They're international players. It was my impression that they were

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<v Speaker 4>not allowed to get money like this.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not until they declare or something city in the

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<v Speaker 5>bank's or as girl or a promise.

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<v Speaker 4>See the problem with this guy in Vegas. Nothing was written,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing was written. They were George coming, came, come play

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<v Speaker 4>for me. I'll get you one hundred thousand, I promise,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you and then you're doing really well. There's

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<v Speaker 4>also some thought that the kid went through and O

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<v Speaker 4>and says I want some more money. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>want it. I want I want because you promised me this.

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<v Speaker 4>But now I'm doing really well. Give me a bump.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to bump.

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<v Speaker 5>I've said I know some of these players, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>I've worked with them prior years with some of the

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly once you get the money, or even the lawyer,

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<v Speaker 3>And then it happens with the pros.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't say anything. He just gave me his reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>Did they go did that price right away? We sold?

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<v Speaker 5>We sold a lot of the left the pictures, the

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<v Speaker 3>price up? Yeah? And it was nice.

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<v Speaker 4>They both went to the heat So oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>right right right, So you might be going to Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>every year to the Pretty People Conventioned you believe that? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So we have brad Alice here in about seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Bradley is a former sports journalist. He said, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're working for the county or the city or something,

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<v Speaker 4>but we don't get into that. He's coaching his kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's running into the same problems coach runs

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<v Speaker 4>into when you're coaching kids in schools. And we'll get

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<v Speaker 4>playing time and time and guess who causes the fuss? Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even have to tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I work with a lot of coaches, and

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to him, and it's the issue all over

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<v Speaker 5>you know, yes, you know, even even the sell point

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably the number one reason though misery it is

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<v Speaker 4>it is, you know, and that and that's not universal

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<v Speaker 3>It's universal, absolutely because the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Little junior gotta play and the more money you make,

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<v Speaker 4>uh hey, can you get him in?

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<v Speaker 5>But there's three other players that are better at that musition,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, And how about and five coaches agreed that

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<v Speaker 5>they're either better, just me saying.

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<v Speaker 4>That, sure, And what about the kid who and he

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<v Speaker 4>kind of mentions the kid who's a slacker, doesn't work

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<v Speaker 4>hard in practice, just there because it doesn't show up

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, and they still want to play.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, yep, the mommy and daddy,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the problem? Well, this, this and this, oh that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Play No.

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<v Speaker 5>Even when I coached, I I would always even above talent,

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, well, I like twelve year old.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah see, and that's and that's there's still a level

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<v Speaker 4>of wanting to win and be all that. But when

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<v Speaker 4>you're younger, but yeah, you you kind of just go

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<v Speaker 4>with exactly what you say. Everyone plays everyone. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal. You're not on ESPN, right, you know

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<v Speaker 4>you're not going to be in the paper. Right, Just

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy your life because it turns quickly it does.

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<v Speaker 3>This adulthood that everybody wants to wants to get to sucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but sometimes you know, mommy is like, he's going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be a pro.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's gonna get us out of the hood. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure my parents. Come on, my dad. My dad

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<v Speaker 4>either was I. You know, they're as good as they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be. The coaches handle them and then no, no, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>that's their job, their life.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Ye.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and at three seventeen or four seventeen, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Bruce Pasco from the Daily Star, one of my former colleagues.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw him yesterday at the press conference. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about the new schedule. Uh, and he's just

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<v Speaker 4>So red and Blue? Are you going to be part

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<v Speaker 4>of that Red Blue? No, I'm not. No, look at you,

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<v Speaker 4>you're little step away. But that's the game and Glen

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<v Speaker 4>here a week later it's in Glendale. Okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>the one I was thinking about. Yeah, to go up

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<v Speaker 4>to it should be well, Bruce's will let us know

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<v Speaker 4>what the tickets are like up there, because I guess

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<v Speaker 4>there they were struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I had to put the ticket price down.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see what they're doing and then get a

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<v Speaker 4>taste of the roster because he has an entourage, nonmourage,

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<v Speaker 5>But they you know, they practice hard, you know it,

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<v Speaker 4>is that's what they're calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the exes at Oh, It's Steve Rivera

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<v Speaker 1>and Jakin Salaz. This is I on the Ball on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 4>Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, your George Matis and

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<v Speaker 4>now on the phone, we have Brad Alice reporter, sports reporter,

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<v Speaker 4>among other things.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you working for, Brad now?

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<v Speaker 16>Sports wise, I'm just doing the podcast myself, the Wildcat

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<v Speaker 16>Sportsport Podcast. But other otherwise, I'm working in local government.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, local government. You're You're the one I cursed that night. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. Hey, We're gonna we're gonna go a

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<v Speaker 4>few different ways here with you, because I thought, let's go,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go sports first, and then we'll talk about personal

459
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<v Speaker 4>stuff because you're going through what millions of other coaches

460
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<v Speaker 4>are going through in the world of sports. So what

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<v Speaker 4>do you think about this football team? Your biggest concerns

462
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<v Speaker 4>and maybe you're not concerned, but you're okay with you know, I.

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<v Speaker 17>Think by two biggest concerns.

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<v Speaker 16>One is just overall performance and how it relates to

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<v Speaker 16>the transition. You know, I think we all expected, with

466
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<v Speaker 16>so many players coming back, a smooth transition, but you know,

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<v Speaker 16>we we've looked through enough of these that, you know,

468
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<v Speaker 16>with the transfer portal with some key guys leaving, and

469
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<v Speaker 16>it wasn't a ton of them, but there's always a transition.

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<v Speaker 16>You guys in assuming new roles, you know, guys who

471
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<v Speaker 16>haven't been coordinators in quite a while, some coordinator positions,

472
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<v Speaker 16>some key pieces missing, some key injuries. And I think

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<v Speaker 16>the transition from the team that we saw you know,

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<v Speaker 16>beat up Assue come from behind against Oklahoma, it's not

475
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<v Speaker 16>that team yet. And I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 16>are already jumping ship. I think it's way too early,

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<v Speaker 16>you know. To me, one of the biggest concerns in

478
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<v Speaker 16>the offensive line, and that was the case coming in

479
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<v Speaker 16>and then when you lost the kid like Toledo, it magnified.

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<v Speaker 16>Obviously had two or three kids who were really good. Well,

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<v Speaker 16>you have throughout questions, and I think that has hampered

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<v Speaker 16>the offense. You know, I don't think Dino Babers has

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<v Speaker 16>found his rhythm yet. So those are my concerns. I

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<v Speaker 16>think the thing that I'm not as concerned about that

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<v Speaker 16>many people are as is the defense. Yeah, they weren't

486
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<v Speaker 16>very good against New Mexico, and they clearly don't have

487
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<v Speaker 16>the personnel they want for mobile quarterbacks. But you know,

488
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<v Speaker 16>they shut down and in a U team to put

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<v Speaker 16>sixty six on and grant it was like a D

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<v Speaker 16>two team, and really you give up twenty four points

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<v Speaker 16>as a defense, and it could have been thirty. You know,

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<v Speaker 16>Campa State missed the fiogal, Kansas State misplayed the clock

493
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<v Speaker 16>at the end of the game. But even thirty points

494
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<v Speaker 16>on the road in the Big twelve is probably enough

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<v Speaker 16>to put you in a position to win. You just

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<v Speaker 16>can't score seven points and no points after the first drive.

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<v Speaker 18>So I think, you know, Keen is.

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<v Speaker 16>Catching a lot of heat. I'm not anywhere near there yet.

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<v Speaker 16>Bavers is catching a lot of heat, and I completely

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<v Speaker 16>understand why.

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<v Speaker 4>So you've been here a long time, been around a

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<v Speaker 4>long time. I've been around a long time. Arizona fans

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<v Speaker 4>are are what they are. You know, you know who

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<v Speaker 4>they are because you've seen the good and the bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they have the cachet or the whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever word you want to use to be that critical

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<v Speaker 4>of a team when they're sometimes good fans and sometimes

508
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<v Speaker 4>bad fans, you know, or you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't they be more patient because they haven't really had

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of success through the years.

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<v Speaker 16>I think that's why they're impatient, because they got a glimpse.

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<v Speaker 16>And you know, for those of you our age and

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<v Speaker 16>maybe a titch younger, you unfortunately remember those two great

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<v Speaker 16>Tony teams that you couldn't build upon. You know, you

515
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<v Speaker 16>win the you win the you have the ball, You

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<v Speaker 16>come around and you lay an egg and you go

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<v Speaker 16>to the Freedom Bowl and lose to a team that didn't.

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<v Speaker 18>Score a touchdown or got one touchdown.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, then a couple of years later, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>we all remember Penn State after.

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<v Speaker 18>Winning the Holiday Bowl.

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<v Speaker 16>And I think that's the fear. I think people are

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<v Speaker 16>in a little bit of panic mode who've lived through it.

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<v Speaker 16>Not again. They win ten games, jet Fish leaves but

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<v Speaker 16>to get the guys back, but you know, things aren't

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<v Speaker 16>quite what they were last year, and now you know

527
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<v Speaker 16>that was the case those two years. They got the

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<v Speaker 16>bulk of Desert Swarm back, They got the bulk of

529
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<v Speaker 16>that team back, but missed a few key components and

530
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<v Speaker 16>they weren't quite the same.

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<v Speaker 18>And I think that's the fear.

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<v Speaker 16>But that being said, you know, we've long said, I

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<v Speaker 16>think you and I have had this succession. There's really

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<v Speaker 16>thirty to forty thousand really good Arizona football.

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<v Speaker 18>Fans in this town, and the rest pay attention when

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<v Speaker 18>they're good.

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<v Speaker 16>So those thirty and forty thousand, I think, remember these times,

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<v Speaker 16>and you know, maybe not remember not being able to

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<v Speaker 16>build upon rich Rod's yes the Bowl, even though that

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<v Speaker 16>team went to what four or five straight bowls. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>I think that's what is. I think the rest of

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<v Speaker 16>them they just haven't lived through it, and then they

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<v Speaker 16>expect things to turn around magically, and we all know,

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<v Speaker 16>I think, maybe you know, half joking, half not, Arizona

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<v Speaker 16>football always seem to have a little dark cloud, a

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<v Speaker 16>little curse around it.

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<v Speaker 5>Brad, This is George So you talked about transition with

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<v Speaker 5>the players. Do you feel the transition with a coach

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<v Speaker 5>with Fish and Brandham, does.

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<v Speaker 3>That have more an impact.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we're gonna see we have a huge game

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend and I've seen the line. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>worth yeah, anywhere from nine and a half to eleven

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<v Speaker 5>and a half, and we're going to see what type

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<v Speaker 5>of football team we really are.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I mean, I think that's my top It is

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<v Speaker 16>a transition of coaches have players.

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<v Speaker 18>It's that whole.

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<v Speaker 16>It's not easy to flip a program, especially it was

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<v Speaker 16>so late in the process too or they basically lost

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<v Speaker 16>half a recruiting class, if not more that a lot

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<v Speaker 16>of those guys were going to play this year. They

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<v Speaker 16>had to re recruit a bunch of their own players.

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<v Speaker 16>You have to put in your entire you know, not

565
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<v Speaker 16>even just the opfensive defensive system, but you know how

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<v Speaker 16>our practices run, How is the weight room done, how

567
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<v Speaker 16>is the training table done, How is academics covered. You

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<v Speaker 16>add to that a new you know, administration athletically. You know,

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<v Speaker 16>there's a lot of things behind the scenes we don't

570
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<v Speaker 16>see that all have to be adapted to and some

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<v Speaker 16>transitions are easy some or not. And I think this

572
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<v Speaker 16>one has been maybe a little tougher than than than

573
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<v Speaker 16>we had previously seen. You know, Brennan's coming into a

574
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<v Speaker 16>program from.

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<v Speaker 17>A really not only San Jose State's much closer to a.

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<v Speaker 16>One double A program than they are to say, San

577
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<v Speaker 16>Diego State. You know, he had to actually raise funds

578
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<v Speaker 16>to feed his kids.

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<v Speaker 18>He has players.

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<v Speaker 16>Santogate States, a commuter school that happens to compete in

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<v Speaker 16>the Mountain West. But they're again, they're far more like

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<v Speaker 16>a Portland State or a Sacramento State than they are

583
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<v Speaker 16>San Diego State or a you know, Fresno State that

584
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<v Speaker 16>are firmly established football programs. So I think that's been

585
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<v Speaker 16>a tough transition for everybody. But if you would ask

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<v Speaker 16>me before the season if they would be two and

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<v Speaker 16>two after these first four games, I thought there was

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<v Speaker 16>a good chance.

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<v Speaker 17>Kansas State's a tough road trip.

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<v Speaker 3>With a very good team.

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<v Speaker 16>Utah is I think, and I don't think anyone's gonna argue.

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<v Speaker 16>I thought they coming into the season with the best

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<v Speaker 16>team in the Big twelve, salt like it's a tough

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<v Speaker 16>place to play. Now, what I want to see is

595
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<v Speaker 16>that wants you a measuring stick gime because they didn't

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<v Speaker 16>look good in Manhattan camps. He did not look as

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<v Speaker 16>good as I thought they were. I want to see

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<v Speaker 16>them if they go. If they lose, but they're within

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<v Speaker 16>striking distance of a win midway through the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 18>I'll be happy. I'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 16>I'll think this team can still do some good things

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<v Speaker 16>in Big Twelve. If they lay an egg like they

603
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<v Speaker 16>did in Manhattan, then there's some serious trouble trying to

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<v Speaker 16>reevaluate the season. Then you're probably hoping, you know, to

605
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<v Speaker 16>get to a bowl game, Whereas I think even if

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<v Speaker 16>you lose to Utah, that's the best team.

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<v Speaker 17>You're going to see.

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<v Speaker 16>You give Utah a scare even better, let's pull off

609
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<v Speaker 16>the win. But then you can say, Okay, they can

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<v Speaker 16>finish top four or five in the Big twelve, which

611
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<v Speaker 16>is still going to be a very good football team.

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<v Speaker 16>Maybe you can finish second, ye you know, maybe you

613
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<v Speaker 16>can go you know, can and two's probably asking too

614
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<v Speaker 16>much of a team that's two and two, But can

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<v Speaker 16>you go nine and three? Can you get into that

616
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<v Speaker 16>Big twelve championship game?

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<v Speaker 18>Can you at least have.

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<v Speaker 16>Your name mentioned for the twelve team playoff? And I

619
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<v Speaker 16>think that's what you want to see. But if you

620
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<v Speaker 16>get your doors blown off, yeah, you're probably looking at

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<v Speaker 16>a five hundred team if you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we know of Cam Riss playing?

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<v Speaker 17>No, I don't think anyone.

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<v Speaker 16>I haven't heard, you know. I think it's interesting you

625
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<v Speaker 16>got two very different quarterbacks. Ones basically I think with

626
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<v Speaker 16>the high school with Steve and I and the other

627
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<v Speaker 16>one is now nineteen years old Rising. You know, one

628
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<v Speaker 16>is put together with bailing wire and duct tape and

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<v Speaker 16>the other one is the brother of an NFL player.

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<v Speaker 16>So I think both kids are good too. I think Wilson's,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, pretty good, but obviously Rising's, you know, his

632
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<v Speaker 16>record speaks for himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So last question on last question on football. So you

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<v Speaker 4>may have been guilty of this. So back in the day,

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<v Speaker 4>I probably was. Everybody in this community is you know?

637
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<v Speaker 4>And I asked Liv this a couple of days ago.

638
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Do the locals or did the locals hype this team

639
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 4>more than it should? We're we're in a small market.

640
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's face this fact, and we we write what

641
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 4>we're fan, we believe what we believe. Do you think

642
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<v Speaker 4>that maybe a time or two some of US, and

643
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<v Speaker 4>I'll conclude me because you know what, the hell, uh

644
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 4>may have may have sold a bag of goods that

645
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 4>may not have been there.

646
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<v Speaker 16>Well, I'm gonna not speak from someone I picked.

647
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 3>They wins.

648
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 18>I thought they could win ten or eleven.

649
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 16>But I thought again, I thought they were missing some pieces.

650
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 16>I thought the schedule was much more difficult. They caught

651
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.279
<v Speaker 16>some breaks last year, and granted they could have won

652
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 16>two more games.

653
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 18>They could have beat.

654
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 16>Sc they could, but they also could have lost the Stampord.

655
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 16>They could have lost to Colorado. You know, so I thought,

656
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 16>you know, the eight and a half number, I thought

657
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 16>that Vegas is putting out there was probably a very

658
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 16>good number. Yeah. I think a lot of people automatically

659
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 16>assume when you get the two high profile guys, you

660
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 16>know three if you want to count Sabine, you get

661
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 16>the return of Akina. You got a guy who probably

662
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 16>money should have been hired Originally, I think, yeah, I

663
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 16>think people over hype them a little bit. But if

664
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<v Speaker 16>you look at the national guys, you know, they picked

665
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 16>them forth, fifth, sixth, and the Big twelve.

666
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 17>They picked eight or nine games.

667
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 3>They had them learning right on the money.

668
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, you know, flirting with the championship playoff, but not

669
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 16>stamping them in. So I think, yes, locally, some people

670
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 16>over hype them, and I get it, you have a

671
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 16>quarterback and you have a generational receiver. But I think

672
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 16>realistically a lot of people also had it right.

673
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay, let's switch to basketball real quick. What's going

674
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.559
<v Speaker 4>to happen? Tommy Lloyd came and did his press coverage yesterday,

675
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of was vague and a lot of different things.

676
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 4>We know all the principal players. They have the nine guys,

677
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 4>pretty good players.

678
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 3>So what do you see?

679
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<v Speaker 16>You know, my question is how do they mesh? How

680
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 16>do you know who is Traight Townsend ready for twenty

681
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 16>five games against big time competition? You know, the WAKA

682
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 16>ready to be everything that physically he looks like he

683
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 16>can be. The previous step up Jayden Bradley become a

684
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 16>guy for thirty minutes a night that he was for

685
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 16>twenty two minutes to night. You know, where's kJ Lewis,

686
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 16>Where's Carter Brant? How do they fit together? There's a

687
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.039
<v Speaker 16>ton of talent on this team, but they're gonna go

688
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 16>through a meat grinder of the of the of the

689
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 16>Big Twelve.

690
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 18>It's the best conference in America.

691
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 16>I think they're gonna have what seven or eight ranked

692
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 16>teams in those polls. I actually think it's good for Arizona.

693
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 16>They may lose one or two more. But you can't

694
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 16>sleep walk, you know, you can't. First of all, you're

695
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 16>going into great environments. Even the bad teams have very

696
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 16>good basketball environments. You're not going to Corvallis, Oregon, where

697
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.680
<v Speaker 16>you're getting shushed by the biology.

698
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 17>Majors who are studying the court side.

699
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, you're going into Ames, Iowa. You're going you know, Steeve,

700
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 16>you and I have been there. Tell me there's a

701
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 16>better environment in college basketball than than Lawrence, Kansas. It

702
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 16>might be, it might be Cameron, but that's you know,

703
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 16>that's the short list. You've got to be on your

704
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 16>A game, and and I think Tommy's been pretty good

705
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 16>at that.

706
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:58.279
<v Speaker 18>In the regular season.

707
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 16>It all comes down to posts and people are waiting

708
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 16>for the deeper run. And unfortunately, I don't know if

709
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 16>they're good enough to get beyond the sweet sixteen.

710
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 18>A lot of it's going to be match up.

711
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 16>But unfortunately people won't fully buy in, I think until

712
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 16>they get to the elite, until they get to a.

713
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 18>Final four, and you and I have.

714
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 17>Done this for so long, we know it's a crapshoot.

715
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 16>One bad shooting night, one bad match up, one bad meal,

716
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 16>and you got two kids who aren't feeling good and

717
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 16>your season's ruined. So again, the opposite that can happen

718
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.359
<v Speaker 16>for the other team, and you get a little bit

719
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 16>of magic and you get a guy you know, going

720
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 16>coals in the field and suddenly you have ninety seven

721
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 16>or or eighty eight or whatever. So I think this

722
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 16>seems could be very very good. But they got a

723
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 16>lot of questions to answer, but the talent's there.

724
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 17>It's just how do they fit together?

725
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>And when was the last time we said they were

726
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 3>not there, weren't going to be very good? Good? Right,

727
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 3>it's been a right, it's been a while, Okay, Just.

728
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 17>So yeah, I think there was one of a couple

729
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 17>of the Shan teams that weren't.

730
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Sure at the end, right, right, right, Georgie, you have

731
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 4>one question about anything with the best book.

732
00:32:58.920 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Because I wanted to go to his real life.

733
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh go ahead, Okay, so your real lifestyle, you're you're

734
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 4>dealing with with real world issues right now. You're a

735
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 4>coach of kids and you have an issue of playing time. Well,

736
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I shocked me, I fell out field, knuck me be

737
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 4>down with a feather.

738
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<v Speaker 18>Well, here's so so, I got a prefaces.

739
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 17>I don't want to get in too many details.

740
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 16>My son plays on two teams. He plays Little League baseball,

741
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 16>which I am the coach. He plays middle school football,

742
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 16>which I am just an observer. And the playing time

743
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 16>issue was over the middle school football. Some parents complained

744
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 16>because you know it's a mixed team, seventh and eighth graders,

745
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 16>a lot of eighth graders. We're getting the playing time.

746
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 16>I am. I have the benefit of a flexible job.

747
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 16>I get to watch pick him up from his practice.

748
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 18>I like to watch the last half hour. I used

749
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:49.960
<v Speaker 18>to be high school.

750
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 16>Football coach, and I can see who's doing what, who's

751
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.000
<v Speaker 16>buying in. Let's just say some parents complain. Some kids

752
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 16>played who I won't even say don't deserve to play,

753
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 16>probably physically.

754
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 17>You know, you know ste if you went through soccer.

755
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, soccer is a mentally physically demanding sport.

756
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 17>But you can hide a kid who.

757
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 16>Maybe doesn't know what he's doing or hasn't done all

758
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 16>the conditioning, and you can go play him a you know,

759
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 16>midfield and he's not gonna get hurt, and he's not

760
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 16>gonna get anyone else hurt. And maybe some kids played

761
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 16>who just should have been on the field because they

762
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 16>haven't done the conditioning and haven't learned the plays, and

763
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 16>it just wasn't an overall good situation. I vented on

764
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 16>Facebook that said not to vent to the school because

765
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 16>it wouldn't do any good. And it seems like the

766
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 16>situation is kind of rectified itself.

767
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 18>But you know, I thought I.

768
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 16>Deal assist in little league. I'm president of Flowing Well's

769
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 16>Little League. I coached one of the teams, but that

770
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 16>is reck ball. Everyone plays.

771
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 18>I make sure I mix my lineups. I'm not I'd

772
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 18>much rather have kids.

773
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 16>Develop school Ball, to me, should be a little bit different.

774
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 18>You're I got roped into it.

775
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I supposed to be third assistant. I'm head coach

776
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:01.039
<v Speaker 16>of my sons.

777
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 5>Well, so what is the issue your kids not getting

778
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.039
<v Speaker 5>the playing time or they're complaining that.

779
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 17>Ironically enough, there's no issue with my kid.

780
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.519
<v Speaker 16>My kid lost a few snaps because they let some

781
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 16>other kids play. My bigger concern was there were some

782
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 16>kids who did lose their snaps who were there every

783
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 16>day running, you know, keeping their grades up doing everything

784
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 16>they're supposed to do. And I and I again, when

785
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 16>I coached I school football, I found ways to get

786
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 16>some kids who weren't good but did all the work

787
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 16>in the games.

788
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 17>And you know, I'm not saying the staff didn't.

789
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 16>I don't, I don't.

790
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 17>I don't want to demeanor some kids who.

791
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 16>Haven't done everything they're supposed to do well were mandated.

792
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 18>To play even though maybe they.

793
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 16>Don't do all the running or any running.

794
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 18>Who missed practice who.

795
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 17>So that was what kind of came out.

796
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 18>But yet my son was not even impacted.

797
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 17>I you know, my son.

798
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 16>Went from the snaps to eighty five percent of them.

799
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 16>He wasn't impacted. I felt bad for other kids, and

800
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 16>I felt that there was a safety issue.

801
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, No, I get it.

802
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's every coach's nightmare, especially when you have

803
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 4>higher ups telling you, well, you know, I got a

804
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 4>call from this my mom and then maybe you need

805
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.119
<v Speaker 4>to play them, and yeah, yeah, you know, come on

806
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 4>me alone.

807
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 16>Well, to me, that's what Little League's for. Heck, the

808
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 16>weird one is club because you're paying.

809
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 18>A kid to play, but then it's super cutthroat.

810
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 16>Again, if this was stated in the beginning, everyone plays

811
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 16>I'll pay great, but they pivoted mid season and again

812
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 16>I don't.

813
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 18>Again, I understand, you have to try.

814
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 16>You know, these administrators, it's a smaller school. They're dealing

815
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 16>with Internet threats, they're dealing with you know, kids who

816
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 16>can now do substances in a in a thing that

817
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 16>looks like a jump drive that you know, guys when

818
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 16>we were a kid had to go out to the

819
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 16>behind the bleachers and do an elaborate rolling there about.

820
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 16>I mean, they've got more things to worry about than

821
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 16>a couple of kid parents complaining. Again, and at the

822
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 16>end of the day, I was I was just kind

823
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 16>of vented on Facebook.

824
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you know that was that was a long vent.

825
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 4>We gotta go. But I read a lot of it.

826
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 4>Are you ready?

827
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I get it?

828
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 17>You could read it all long?

829
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 3>No, it was it was.

830
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a little much for me. Yeah, thanks, Brad,

831
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 4>appreciate your time. Have a good all right, take it.

832
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 4>That's funny. We got to go our way over. So

833
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 4>let's take a break there. If you're an Arizona men's

834
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<v Speaker 4>basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now,

835
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<v Speaker 4>take a look back at the Ludelsen Era In my

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<v Speaker 4>and friends to give insight to the coach and the

839
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<v Speaker 4>man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them.

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841
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<v Speaker 2>Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteenth fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, welcome back, I in the Ball here on Punch

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<v Speaker 4>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's George Montis, the

892
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<v Speaker 4>new j for today, and our guy Ryan here working

893
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<v Speaker 4>the board.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you you said you were a coacher earlier,

895
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<v Speaker 3>your coach the Little league majors.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure if I asked you how many times you

897
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<v Speaker 4>had to deal with a bunch of crap is more

898
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<v Speaker 4>than two days, than ten than ten times?

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<v Speaker 5>The moms and a lot of times it was the moms,

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00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:28.880
<v Speaker 5>not the dads. No, the moms. There was one mom

901
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.400
<v Speaker 5>that got arrested during the game. It was really crad

902
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 5>during an All Star game. Yeah, and it was what

903
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<v Speaker 5>was sad. It was one of our moms and she

904
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<v Speaker 5>went over and kind of I think she smacked the

905
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 5>other moms and they called the police and they did.

906
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<v Speaker 3>They coughed her up and threw her in the car

907
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<v Speaker 3>in front of all the kids.

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<v Speaker 5>It was holy. I mean, and this is fifteen years ago.

909
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<v Speaker 5>It was getting that bad. I can only imagine now.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, No, no, but that's kind of when it started,

911
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, the TV and the TV with the phones

912
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 4>and the social media and let me too, it happened

913
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 4>well before that too.

914
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<v Speaker 3>But so they were fighting with each other.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're you know, they would let him

916
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 5>hit and you know, and the kids not letting him hit.

917
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<v Speaker 3>It just but now it's stems, you know, I hear it.

918
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<v Speaker 3>I talked to a lot of coaches.

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<v Speaker 5>We know a lot of coaches, a lot of you know,

920
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 5>like some of the major programs here, football programs here

921
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 5>in town, and I've talked to them and they're like,

922
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, the parents are giving us pressure. And he's like,

923
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 5>it's not just me as a head coach or an

924
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<v Speaker 5>assistant coach.

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00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 3>We have nineteen coaches and.

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<v Speaker 5>We all agree that this player is better, so he's

927
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<v Speaker 5>going to get the playtime instead of your son.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, you know, right, you know, and that's part

929
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<v Speaker 3>of the job. I get it.

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00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 4>And what do you tell the parent Either he needs

931
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<v Speaker 4>to get better or he's just not capable of playing.

932
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<v Speaker 5>We're trying to win state championship here at these levels,

933
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<v Speaker 5>you know, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

935
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<v Speaker 4>So what else? What else did you kind of run into?

936
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you know that was the you can't coach?

937
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:53.320
<v Speaker 4>What the hell you doing here?

938
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I'm sure you heard that?

939
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, no, you know it's I was a

940
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<v Speaker 5>good coach. I took pride and I.

941
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<v Speaker 4>Don't know, but I'm from the from the people telling you,

942
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<v Speaker 4>because whether you felt that or not, be I'm sure

943
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<v Speaker 4>they're saying you don't know talent, you know?

944
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, John, I hear you absolutely every everything they

945
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 5>can think of, you know, you have something against them

946
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 5>or no, you know, I want to win at that level.

947
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<v Speaker 5>Though it was more just I think what Brad was

948
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<v Speaker 5>saying is we're going to play the kids that are

949
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 5>trying hard, that show up, stay after their working, not

950
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<v Speaker 5>the guys that come in late, miss half the practices

951
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 5>and still want equal play time. Now, if you're missing

952
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 5>the practice, you're gonna sit out a little.

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00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Sure, yeah, no matter how good you are to the

954
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 4>good people. Absolutely yeah, because you know, and nothing in

955
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.719
<v Speaker 4>this world is fair. But that's as fair as you

956
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 4>can get. Yeah, exactly know what I'm saying. So we'll see.

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00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 4>I think it's everyone's the way to heaven having to

958
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 4>coach kids. Really, everyone should, you know, even volunteer to do.

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00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 3>Just packing my back. You think you can do better,

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00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.559
<v Speaker 3>Let's do it, Steve, you and I and we'll talk

961
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<v Speaker 3>about it.

962
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 4>I do, I do need to get to heaven, so

963
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 4>maybe we do it right. Okay, anybody want to call

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00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 4>please do five two oh four one, six, seventy four forty.

965
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there are some coaches out there listening and say,

966
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 4>oh god, come on, that's every day and we'd hear it.

967
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 4>We're dealing with it every day. You guys are not

968
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 4>talking about. But Brad wrote like a monster story. I'm

969
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 4>thinking this is the playtac with Brad. And I'll say

970
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 4>this because he did like a huge Facebook poach, I

971
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 4>mean a lot of words and then he said, wow,

972
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 4>do you want to send it to the to the school.

973
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 4>You put it in public view.

974
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 3>What's the point. I'm sure they saw it.

975
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, yeah, so we'll see.

976
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 3>He was an Arizona star guy.

977
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Okay, again, if you want to call five two oh

978
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 4>four one, six, seventy four forty, were you ready for

979
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 4>your call? If you want to call in a big game?

980
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 4>You talked about a big game, so Brad said, and Alwa's.

981
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Talked about this. They have to.

982
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 4>I think they have to in order not to lose

983
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot of fans and and everybody you know, bitching,

984
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 4>and they have to play close at least they within

985
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 4>the within a touchdown, just because you know, even the

986
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 4>spread is ten or whatever, rest than I even forget that.

987
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 4>But if they can stay within seven, maybe have a chance.

988
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna say, Okay, I get it. Maybe it was

989
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 4>just a bad game against Kansas State. Like you said,

990
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.639
<v Speaker 4>they could be the best in the division. They were

991
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 4>playing there. That's a tough place to play.

992
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

993
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my whole thing with that, And I've said this

994
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 4>the number of times and the listeners will probably say enough, Steve,

995
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 4>they just didn't play with any kind of conviction after

996
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 4>that first drive. And you know you have employees, right,

997
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 4>you tell me how many eight eight okay, And you know,

998
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>you go to work and you see them and sometimes

999
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 4>they're enthusiastic and they're happy to be there, but there

1000
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 4>are times when you know they don't want to be there,

1001
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 4>and you can, you know, I.

1002
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 5>Literally like smile at them, like just try this for once,

1003
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 5>just smile, you know, and then they kind of.

1004
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:52.760
<v Speaker 3>You send them home if they know. But but you know, with.

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00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 5>Today's you can get a negative review for an employee

1006
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 5>being rude or because they do because it didn't greet

1007
00:44:59.280 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 5>them properly.

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00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I did that today.

1009
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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I was at a fast food price and

1010
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I went in and they asked you for the order.

1011
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 4>They're not very happy to see you or whatever. And

1012
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 4>they're younger, you're younger, and then you get in line

1013
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 4>and you pay, and then they give you this no

1014
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.920
<v Speaker 4>thank you, no appreciation, and I'm saying thank you. Wait

1015
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 4>a second, why did I say thank you? I paid

1016
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 4>them for the food?

1017
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

1018
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 5>And it's uh, I mean, it's it's changed. It definitely

1019
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 5>has changed. But you know, we have a great staff,

1020
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 5>great team. I think we got a call. You're on

1021
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 5>the air, eye on the ball.

1022
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:34.320
<v Speaker 16>Hey, Hey, what's up?

1023
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 3>This is it?

1024
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:37.360
<v Speaker 4>I thought you lost our number, man, Jay Leaves, and

1025
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 4>you start to come no, man.

1026
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Don't cry.

1027
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<v Speaker 21>I I just had a call and chime in on

1028
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 21>the thing. And and I'll be honest, I mean you

1029
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 21>kind of know a little bit about me. I've coached

1030
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 21>in California for years and been with some of the

1031
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 21>best baseball and basketball players that you know that from

1032
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 21>high school, college and pro. But this this all started,

1033
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 21>and I don't know if George you can agree, is

1034
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 21>with the advent of travel ball and you got to

1035
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 21>pay big money and you're paying big money and you

1036
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 21>want to see your kid play no matter what, and

1037
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 21>uh yes, And I'll tell.

1038
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 3>You you know.

1039
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<v Speaker 21>We we were in East LA and we had to

1040
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 21>go to either Orange County or the Implant Empire to

1041
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 21>get the base best softball competition there was. And we

1042
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 21>had to work. I mean we had to travel two

1043
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 21>hours ago to our hitting coach. And then like Brad

1044
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 21>and I think you just kind of said a little

1045
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 21>bit about George. You you got kids that don't work,

1046
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.320
<v Speaker 21>The parents don't work, they bring them late, they don't

1047
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.360
<v Speaker 21>show up to practice, and then your kid is just

1048
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 21>hit for two hours on his own and then they

1049
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 21>want playing.

1050
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.639
<v Speaker 5>Time, absolutely, And do they not see what's what's happening?

1051
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 3>They do? They know?

1052
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, if they're sensible, they know what's going on.

1053
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 4>And they too, Well, it doesn't matter. I mean, it

1054
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter because the rules don't apply.

1055
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 3>And that's dedication.

1056
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:12.719
<v Speaker 21>And I'm going to give you a couple of names.

1057
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 21>I was real close with South Hill's foughtball program. We

1058
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 21>had a kid named Natalie Lugo that was pitching and

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00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 21>she went on to be a high school All American,

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00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 21>pitched at Florida for four years. And there was a

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<v Speaker 21>girl behind her. And don't get me wrong, this girl

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00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 21>behind her was good, but she wasn't on Natalie Lugo's level.

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<v Speaker 21>And her parents theoriously went to the to the district,

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00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.239
<v Speaker 21>to the principal, every which way you could go to.

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00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 21>And even my daughter went to a few games, said

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<v Speaker 21>does she know? Do they know who's in front of her?

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<v Speaker 21>Like she wasn't going to beat her out, like go

1068
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 21>to another school or go somewhere out because but that's

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00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 21>that's how bad it gets.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't you think that, Well, don't you think that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the reasons why they people transfer? Well, money

1072
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.679
<v Speaker 4>now and transfer because they have no spot fit to

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00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 4>fit in.

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<v Speaker 21>Well, it used to be like that, see, but now

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00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 21>it's kind of like uh, and you said, I think

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00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 21>yesterday the Ruben Douglastan where okay, he left and he

1077
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 21>did great, but he wasn't gonna beat out Gilbert.

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00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 3>No, no, he saw.

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00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 21>The writing on the wall. Sure, and but you've got

1080
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 21>to be either kind of wait your turn a Jason

1081
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 21>Terry where he waited his turn and look at things

1082
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:31.760
<v Speaker 21>turned out great for him. Well, and you gotta work harder?

1083
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 21>Or when when does it come to a parent that says, hey,

1084
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 21>you know what, you better go condition more, you better

1085
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 21>go hit more, you better go uh hitch more, or

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00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 21>whatever that that that those words don't come out of.

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<v Speaker 21>And I'm still involved even that I moved to Tucson

1088
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.239
<v Speaker 21>in the softball world, and I've seen it still where

1089
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 21>people are not gonna They're not gonna say work harder,

1090
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 21>They're gonna move on or complain or do what they

1091
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 21>they do. Well, you have that an article and I

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00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 21>read that thing and it took me two days that

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00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 21>but that, seriously, that article hit it on the head

1094
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 21>where he said, hey, these are kids that don't go

1095
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 21>to practice and don't run sprints after and parents still

1096
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 21>want them to get that playing time over kids that

1097
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 21>are out there working their tail off in class and

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00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 21>on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you, you said a phrase here, wait

1100
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 4>their turn. Nobody waits their turn anymore.

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00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 3>They don't. They don't see that.

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<v Speaker 21>That's the honest God's true that they all are gonna transfer,

1103
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 21>move on or whatever. And that's in college, high school,

1104
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 21>and now even at the youth level.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said this because you know you listen to

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00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 4>me regularly or us regularly. Back in the day for Luke,

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00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 4>when the guys would come here, like the Shawn Ellens

1109
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.280
<v Speaker 4>and the Eddrick Bohannan's, and they said, the one mistake

1110
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 4>I made was I didn't have enough patience.

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00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:52.119
<v Speaker 3>And they left.

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<v Speaker 4>And guess what, had they stayed like JT, like Jason Terry,

1113
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.119
<v Speaker 4>they eventually would have become that guy. They instead they

1114
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<v Speaker 4>went somewhere else to be the guy. But they didn't

1115
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<v Speaker 4>learn the same things. So it's easy to be the guy,

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<v Speaker 4>But what are you learning? What are you learning if

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<v Speaker 4>you're playing under a coach that really doesn't really can't

1118
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<v Speaker 4>coach you so it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 21>tell you one real little quick story. I know, you

1121
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 21>guys got to go. My daughter broke her finger and

1122
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<v Speaker 21>sixteen year old and we were on a nationally rankedinging

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<v Speaker 21>and they brought in this girl, and man, this girls

1124
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.360
<v Speaker 21>could just hit bombs. So we stood on the practice

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<v Speaker 21>field when she was getting better and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 21>when you get better, you better go to first or

1127
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 21>the outfield, because you ain't going to third. And she goes, no, crap, man,

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<v Speaker 21>I ain't gonna beat her out.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you can see what's in front of you

1130
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<v Speaker 4>right well, you know what, that's reality.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you saw it.

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<v Speaker 4>Either your daughter would have to get better right tomorrow,

1133
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<v Speaker 4>in a day or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But you but you that's realistic. That's realistic. Yeah, no

1135
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 3>one's realistic.

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<v Speaker 21>But Brad's article hit home. I even called a couple

1137
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 21>of coaches here and we all read it. And then

1138
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 21>it just kind of makes you mad nowadays, and I

1139
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 21>hate to use this term or whatever, but is it

1140
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 21>it's that woke mentality that everybody gets everything on a

1141
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 21>silver platter.

1142
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<v Speaker 3>Nowadays, right right? And see the last thing.

1143
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 21>Is it's worse now, and it's because you pay now.

1144
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, But even then, you have

1145
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 4>to be realistic. And if your little Johnny isn't good enough,

1146
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 4>guess what he has to be.

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<v Speaker 3>He has to get better. He just do yes, right,

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00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 3>that's right. Okay, thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 17>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 21>Hey you guys falls down great today.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, thank you, Thank you for I have my boy Georgia.

1152
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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready to go?

1153
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 4>Are you ready to go? We've got time. Okay, you're

1154
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:43.519
<v Speaker 4>the boss. Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going. We'll come back with breaking news on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side.
