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Speaker 1: This is Tom Thompson Cousinos, the Raptilian from Strange Group Podcast,
Speaker 1: and we're here I called the Conspiracy to talk about
Speaker 1: some bizarre and strange things. So strap in for this
Speaker 1: wild and hilarious ride. Now to the show, everybody.
Speaker 4: The curtains are open.
Speaker 2: We're checking tickets out the door. It's about to get strange.
Speaker 7: Everybody.
Speaker 4: Hey, today from the person they actually it was sunny
Speaker 4: here for like weeks.
Speaker 7: Really, Yeah, it seems very dreary over there.
Speaker 4: It normally is like we've had like quite good weather,
Speaker 4: but the last like three four weeks has been terrible.
Speaker 7: There's just been this big like there's this big rainstorm
Speaker 7: and it's like just been pouring out like the past
Speaker 7: like a couple hours. So it's funny considering where it's
Speaker 7: been normally like very hot and sunshine. And even while
Speaker 7: the episodes me and Brett recorded, I was like dripping
Speaker 7: in sweat, like so like I was like I couldn't
Speaker 7: even like concentrate. And now it's like this nice, cool,
Speaker 7: rainy day and we're talking about strange vacations.
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna have some like weird things
Speaker 4: set up on your soundboard.
Speaker 7: Man, here comes this son, but uh yes, welcome everybody
Speaker 7: back to the show. I hope you love us. If
Speaker 7: you don't, I don't know what to tell you. I
Speaker 7: don't know why you're listening.
Speaker 4: We're just chilling out at the beach. I'm having a
Speaker 4: nice cold kind of moves.
Speaker 7: What's with you? I'm eving one of these is fucking delicious.
Speaker 7: I'm a I'm a sucker for like I'm like sick
Speaker 7: of beer, right, but I'm going.
Speaker 4: There some weird wait and see everybody. He's going to
Speaker 4: be like it's like Samuel Beckett fucking something Friday. Bro Okay,
Speaker 4: that sounds kind of nice.
Speaker 7: It's uh be this be that, do this, do that,
Speaker 7: v f that vodka Friday that it's a thorny beach.
Speaker 7: All kind of funny, can saying what we're talking about
Speaker 7: a peach raspberry frolic? Weird?
Speaker 4: That sounds pretty nice. Have you ever heard of this?
Speaker 4: This is a new drink, It's this new thing out.
Speaker 4: It's really nice.
Speaker 7: I didn't Bill Gates investing that isn't that his his invention?
Speaker 4: We see I've I've bought into his subscription service now,
Speaker 4: so I already got vaxxed up. So time to drink
Speaker 4: moves for rest of my life.
Speaker 7: I know we're talking about strange vacations, and it's kind
Speaker 7: of fun because in two days I will be going
Speaker 7: on my own vacation. Actually, I'm going to the cottage
Speaker 7: we're recorded with Today is a fucking Tuesday. I'm going
Speaker 7: on the Friday, so I'm pretty stoked for that. So
Speaker 7: this is pretty exciting to talk about, you know, considering
Speaker 7: you know where I'm going, and we talked about wanting
Speaker 7: to do this anyway.
Speaker 4: Before we get into it. I don't know how much
Speaker 4: you care to get into the details of this, but
Speaker 4: when you say I'm going to the cottage, like set
Speaker 4: the scene for me as somebody who has no context
Speaker 4: as to like what that means.
Speaker 7: So we travel we used to get We used to
Speaker 7: for the you know, for it's like five six years ago,
Speaker 7: the same cottage which I do miss. It was a
Speaker 7: nice cottage and you like, you know, three hours up
Speaker 7: north and then you get in the cottage country and
Speaker 7: there's like nothing but like forests and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Hopefully they don't burn them to the ground with fucking
Speaker 7: dues direct energy weapons. But it's like beautiful out there.
Speaker 7: And then you start seeing like ads for cottage stuff,
Speaker 7: like you know, boats and all that stuff. So that's
Speaker 7: when you start getting more up north. But we used
Speaker 7: to like it was on by this place called Burley Falls,
Speaker 7: and we used to like go through this like very
Speaker 7: dirt road. And actually you ever seen Cheaper by the Dozen,
Speaker 7: two yes, with Eugene Levy and Steve Martin. That cottage
Speaker 7: that they filmed that was literally like two three cottages
Speaker 7: down from the one we were at.
Speaker 4: Not as good though, we didn't get the huge that's
Speaker 4: kind of like why they should.
Speaker 7: Picture kind of yeah, And we used to have this
Speaker 7: like rustic old cabin considering it was next to some
Speaker 7: very rich looking cabin like like cottages. Like there was
Speaker 7: a glasshouse looking one, and that one's huge, the one
Speaker 7: that they filmed the movie at, and they had like
Speaker 7: a little restaurant. They had like their sick from Eugene
Speaker 7: Levy and Steve Martin, and it was like you'd go
Speaker 7: into this like kind of old cabin whs like a
Speaker 7: hat like a back room which was nice for me
Speaker 7: to smoke weed out of and stuff like that, and
Speaker 7: then you go in a little kitchen kind of wholesome,
Speaker 7: and then it had a deck wrapped around and it
Speaker 7: would like go right out to the water. So there's
Speaker 7: a diving board you can just jump into the lake into,
Speaker 7: which is pretty fun, a little dock and all that stuff.
Speaker 7: But they've been fighting over the road the municipality or
Speaker 7: some bullshit. So now we went to one last year
Speaker 7: because Chelsea's sister had a kid, so we don't want
Speaker 7: him falling off the deck. That would not be good.
Speaker 7: So now it's like one that you walk into the water.
Speaker 7: So it has a huge grass like in the back
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and then you kind of like
Speaker 7: step off and they have stone ledges you can kind
Speaker 7: of walk into the water at and it's it's beautiful. Right,
Speaker 7: I'll be reading, I have my Howard's in book. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna read The Power Government Cannot Suppress my David Ike book.
Speaker 7: I'll probably try to get through that. It is. It's enjoyable,
Speaker 7: but it's it's a little tough. I understand why people
Speaker 7: are like, it's a tough read to read date xbooks.
Speaker 7: And then I also like, I don't want it's just
Speaker 7: like spiritual guru fucking Buddhism bullshit.
Speaker 4: I like, so that that was gonna be My follow
Speaker 4: up question was like what kind of things do you
Speaker 4: like to do when you go to the cottage?
Speaker 7: So I can't do high doses of the mushrooms I
Speaker 7: would like to do because Chelsea does not would not
Speaker 7: want that because they don't know that I do it.
Speaker 7: Hopefully don't listen to this. But it's like, I'm like,
Speaker 7: what can I just tell them? What can I just
Speaker 7: be myself?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: Like, I don't think it's a big deal. People see
Speaker 7: psychedelics and this like scary, bad thing, and they don't
Speaker 7: understand how powerful it is to change the human consciousness
Speaker 7: and brain and mental health and all that stuff. Right,
Speaker 7: But I'll be taking microdoses, wear my sunglasses, and I
Speaker 7: don't see my fucking large pupils, but it's mostly rector
Speaker 7: what does he say?
Speaker 2: We are love?
Speaker 7: Whatever the hell he says, yeah, and uh yeah, because
Speaker 7: your eyes can get like that. When me and my
Speaker 7: buddy did mushers at the bachelor party, like we're both like,
Speaker 7: we came down, we weren't tripping anymore, and I was like, man,
Speaker 7: your fucking pupils are still huge. It's like it took
Speaker 7: over his whole eye almost. I was like, whoa. But
Speaker 7: like I, we mostly just hang out. We may go
Speaker 7: on a boat and go for a boat ride. Mostly
Speaker 7: just hang out, you know, drink. No hang out with
Speaker 7: the baby now, which is a lot of fun because
Speaker 7: he's like getting older. He's like one, a little over
Speaker 7: one and uh sold these stuff like that. You know, read,
Speaker 7: I'd like to read a lot, and I'll listen to
Speaker 7: podcasts and it's chill. By the way, I'm gonna try
Speaker 7: to swim a lot and maybe try to master the
Speaker 7: paddle board because I did.
Speaker 4: Not do well. I thought you were going to say
Speaker 4: something else because you did stall for a second, and
Speaker 4: maybe try I want to really try and master.
Speaker 7: Yeah, master the paddle board is my way of saying
Speaker 7: that I'll jerk off in the washroom when nobody what
Speaker 7: we need.
Speaker 4: To do there is somebody needs to clip that and
Speaker 4: then do that thing where you said master and then
Speaker 4: it has that weird Microsoft of Sam voice that goes
Speaker 4: pid yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I'm excited for this episode. It should be
Speaker 7: fairly fun. Longtime listeners will know that we did a
Speaker 7: Strange Vacations episode, like at the very beginning of the
Speaker 7: show when Justin was still a host, which seems like
Speaker 7: decades ago. It was only like a couple of years.
Speaker 7: It just seems like forever ago. Look, we're at the beach. Oh,
Speaker 7: I thought I edited it to make it fit the
Speaker 7: whole thing, but we're kind of in the water. Now
Speaker 7: we're on the beach.
Speaker 4: It's kind of nice and I love how right, So
Speaker 4: we're doing a Strange vacations episode and you look like
Speaker 4: you're somewhere tropical with the color and like the hat
Speaker 4: and everything, and then I look like fucking Uncle Fester.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're blue lighting just because well become Uncle Fester
Speaker 7: pretty soon, do I look.
Speaker 4: Like because someone said this to me the other day
Speaker 4: that this looks like it's fake and I'm not actually here.
Speaker 4: It's like me standing in front of a green screen.
Speaker 7: Kind of just because the lighting is on you and
Speaker 7: you have the light lighting up the back. My lights
Speaker 7: are in front of me. You someone could think that.
Speaker 7: I could see why someone would.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They were like is that real? And I was
Speaker 4: like yeah, and they were like, just it looks like
Speaker 4: really bad, like cgi weird.
Speaker 7: It's now it's real. Just go walk over to it
Speaker 7: and then you fall into the green screen. I want
Speaker 7: a green scheme for my green screen for my chair,
Speaker 7: just for some fun ship for the show.
Speaker 4: But that fun I can imagine you would do with that.
Speaker 7: I know. I hope everyone is enjoying their summer so far,
Speaker 7: and so like that we'll kind of bring it to
Speaker 7: a close. There's a lot of actually fun stuff over
Speaker 7: at class forecast for stuff that we're adding in near September,
Speaker 7: and there's stuff still to come, uh, so be prepared
Speaker 7: for that. But this was kind of fun. I kind
Speaker 7: of like doing some you know, topical episodes a lot
Speaker 7: of times, and the fans know this around any time
Speaker 7: that we can. I like, we've done one Valentine's Day episode,
Speaker 7: sure we'll do another. So I like doing things kind
Speaker 7: of topical. It's always fun and to give the fans
Speaker 7: and not a law shows do that, so I thought
Speaker 7: it would be appropriate. And I actually have probably another
Speaker 7: episode or two that would be kind of summer targeted,
Speaker 7: like towards this season and stuff like that. But there's
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff coming. So when you play in
Speaker 7: your next trip, make sure you take warning from many
Speaker 7: tales of the people who vanished on vacation. Instead of
Speaker 7: removing themselves from work and stress, you know, the stress
Speaker 7: of the world. People disappear on trips, remove themselves from
Speaker 7: the entire world, entirely, vanishing in the midst of what
Speaker 7: should be paradise. Sometimes things go really wrong and affect
Speaker 7: people's lives forever. So let's talk about some stories of
Speaker 7: people who set out on vacation and came back with harring, harrow, harrowing, harrow, horrifying.
Speaker 7: Let's just say that horrifying tales to tell, or they
Speaker 7: never came back at all.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I I don't think any of
Speaker 4: the poor motherfuckers that I'm going to talk about, I
Speaker 4: don't think any of them came back.
Speaker 7: No, no, nobody. I have two cases of like some
Speaker 7: fun things kind of bring in the episode, but yeah,
Speaker 7: and I don't know if you have you ever had
Speaker 7: a strange vacation? Everyone knows mine where my friend got
Speaker 7: stuck in Cuba. If you don't, if you don't, even
Speaker 7: ner means fucking about my Shadow People story one thousand times,
Speaker 7: then go back to the Shadow People episode and you'll
Speaker 7: hear the whole story of how my vacation got turned
Speaker 7: upside down very quickly when a Russian guy grabbed my
Speaker 7: friend's balls. You ever had anything happen like that?
Speaker 4: No? No, but I have had. I suppose. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you could call it a strange vacation. I
Speaker 4: had a pretty wild vacation in twenty sixteen. I actually
Speaker 4: got stuck in Orlando, Jordan Hurricane Matthew. Oh really, And
Speaker 4: our plane was the second last plane. So we have
Speaker 4: air Lingis, which is an Irish like air Lingis Airlings.
Speaker 4: It's like the Irish fucking whatever. They're like international like,
Speaker 4: but it was there was US and British Airways where
Speaker 4: the last two flights to leave Orlando and International Airport
Speaker 4: before they had like a statewide curfew because the storm
Speaker 4: was coming. And like when we get to the airport
Speaker 4: and I'm noticing, like anybody else, I know that's in
Speaker 4: Orlando at the time, is like, yeah, no, we we
Speaker 4: got we got told to stay in our hotel and
Speaker 4: like not leave and like definitely don't go to the
Speaker 4: airport because flights are not gonna be like go. I
Speaker 4: was like, weird. It's like we got told to show
Speaker 4: up at the airport and it'll be fine. And we
Speaker 4: get to the airport and like the entire airport is
Speaker 4: basically closed, bare like one car or of lights that
Speaker 4: lead to like our gate. I'm like, this is really
Speaker 4: bizarre that this is happening. And we get to the
Speaker 4: gate and basically what happens is a flight comes from
Speaker 4: Dublin to Orlando and then they disembark whatever, they clean
Speaker 4: a plane field plane there and then you know, we
Speaker 4: go from Orlando back to Dublin. And as those people
Speaker 4: are getting off the plane, I was sitting it was
Speaker 4: like I sort of got it was like final destination.
Speaker 4: I was sitting at my back to like the big
Speaker 4: glass windows, and the plane was like right here, and
Speaker 4: I don't want to me Like I stood up and
Speaker 4: I was just kind of wandering around and I looked
Speaker 4: out the window and I was like, what's all that
Speaker 4: black smoke? Weird? So then I get closer and I
Speaker 4: look out and the plane is on fire.
Speaker 7: What the really your plane is on is.
Speaker 4: On fired right before we get onto it. And then
Speaker 4: everybody starts screaming and freaking out. I swear to God,
Speaker 4: right I haven't.
Speaker 7: Then you wake up in your chair and you're like, everybody,
Speaker 7: get off the plane.
Speaker 4: It's like I was like pushing fucking grannies and ship
Speaker 4: onto the ground to get away because everyone thought the
Speaker 4: plane was going to explode and kill everybody. So like
Speaker 4: everybody just starts barreling up this hallway and I'm like
Speaker 4: I'm like pushing like all women out of the way,
Speaker 4: and shit like, fuck you don't.
Speaker 7: I don't blame me. In times of desperation, people get desperate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely just like lost it. And basically what
Speaker 4: happened was the I must maybe someday when we do
Speaker 4: just like a random live stream. I have all the
Speaker 4: live stream and clips and stuff. I took avas.
Speaker 7: We should have done that for this year for if
Speaker 7: we can fit it in. We'll try to, but we're
Speaker 7: busy bees over at Strange Brew.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and then from there it just went downhill.
Speaker 4: We were supposed to get like evacuated by the National Guard.
Speaker 4: They wanted to bring us like four hours away to
Speaker 4: put us in some football stadium. Weird. I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to a football stay and
Speaker 4: we're like, well we can only we can only put
Speaker 4: women and children into hotels and all the men need
Speaker 4: to go together with the National Guard.
Speaker 7: Why don't we do that with immigration? It seems like
Speaker 7: a lot of military aged men that come here.
Speaker 4: And I was like, nah, I'm good. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm good for that, And like, somehow we managed to
Speaker 4: get a hotel.
Speaker 7: Well, howdle you in a football stadium, but you have
Speaker 7: to play football for our enjoyment while you're here.
Speaker 4: And we we get put up in this hotel. It's
Speaker 4: just like it's a piece of ship. It's like something
Speaker 4: of a horror movie. You know. We spent a week
Speaker 4: locked in a hotel room that had no food, no anything.
Speaker 7: Wild.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it was.
Speaker 7: Dude, it was terrible, like your ex woman.
Speaker 4: No, it was me and one of one of the
Speaker 4: guys I used to hang out with at the time,
Speaker 4: and we're just sitting in this room. I have videos
Speaker 4: insight inside in the room and there's like no electricity
Speaker 4: and we're just because obviously living in Ireland, we've never
Speaker 4: experienced like anything like that sort to be there. Well,
Speaker 4: just the whole thing, like the whole hurricane thing and
Speaker 4: how serious I got, and like, you know, then when
Speaker 4: you start to see like the fucking army and ship
Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, you need to get in that
Speaker 4: like big military truck and like they're going to drive
Speaker 4: you four hours and then lock in a football stadium
Speaker 4: because everyone's going to die. That's fucking like, you know,
Speaker 4: from a small town in Ireland, We're like, whoa, what's
Speaker 4: going on? I just want to go home.
Speaker 7: Much as I like Florida, you know, remember, it's just
Speaker 7: it's like they have a lot of freedom, but just
Speaker 7: cut that dick off. It's the dick of the States.
Speaker 7: But you know, it's I don't know what it's like
Speaker 7: to and I'm sure one day I will with the
Speaker 7: with all the weather modification and the things that are happening.
Speaker 7: But we're pretty lucky where where we are, and it's
Speaker 7: you're even luckier if you go further up north. But
Speaker 7: you know, I you know, it's it must be scary.
Speaker 7: We've had torn in US here like once or twice,
Speaker 7: but nothing like wild like.
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't, I wasn't a huge fan of it.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be either.
Speaker 4: And then and then actually, so to finish that whole story,
Speaker 4: when when things finally calm down and they rebook us
Speaker 4: on flights to go home.
Speaker 7: When they calm down, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm trying to carve my Irish accent.
Speaker 7: No, that's fine. That's why Jimmy My the Chelsea Stepdady
Speaker 7: Scottish and always says, keep calm.
Speaker 4: That sounds about right, Jimmy, Jimmy. Yeah, they rebook us
Speaker 4: on like flights to get home or whatever. And when
Speaker 4: we get the email, I'm like, oh, okay, we're going
Speaker 4: to JFK. I was like, look, if things up. I
Speaker 4: was like, if anything fox up, like my my aunt
Speaker 4: and uncle live in New York, so they can come
Speaker 4: and get someone. Just go stay with them for a
Speaker 4: few days. Do we figure out what's going on?
Speaker 7: And then they do them.
Speaker 4: It was like he was like JFK and he's like, no,
Speaker 4: my my thing says at L what's that And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're going to Atlanta, Georgia. Then, so we're not going
Speaker 4: to the same place.
Speaker 7: That's fucked because where's he from?
Speaker 4: Like both of us were coming back here like we're
Speaker 4: both weird. Yeah, and they put us on to Yeah,
Speaker 4: they sent him to Atlanta and they sent me to
Speaker 4: New York. And then they were like and then we
Speaker 4: have to get like connecting flights in there, so we
Speaker 4: get split up, and I'm flying out first, so we
Speaker 4: say goodbyes, whatever, see you later. Jerk them off a bit.
Speaker 4: I go and on this plane, we are taxiing on
Speaker 4: the runway like in a queue of like because obviously
Speaker 4: there's like a pile up of flights trying to get
Speaker 4: back out of fucking Orlando at this point. And I
Speaker 4: have video of this as well on my phone. As
Speaker 4: we're sitting on the runway, I remember sitting there going,
Speaker 4: that's a really strange smell of like burning or smoke.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, nah, it's probably just like in my
Speaker 4: head or whatever whatever, and then other people start like it.
Speaker 4: You know, you can hear everybody going like can you
Speaker 4: can you smell that? What's that smell? And then people
Speaker 4: are like, I think I see smoke and then made
Speaker 4: you panic, dude, Right, that's why I took I don't
Speaker 4: know why I thought it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 4: But I took my phone outside and I was like,
Speaker 4: I was literally talking to the phone, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I cannot believe this ship I'm about the diet in
Speaker 4: a fucking plane.
Speaker 7: Not not my second time, not my story, but I'll
Speaker 7: tell this very quickly. One of my cousins went to
Speaker 7: Japan and in there with his buddy, and I was
Speaker 7: friends with both them, Like obviously my cousin, like, we
Speaker 7: don't hang out as often. I wasn't allowed to go
Speaker 7: to family functions because I was not shut it up.
Speaker 7: So the disconnect started, Like this sees like a lot
Speaker 7: of family, Like I don't see a lot of my
Speaker 7: cousins and people like that anymore because everyone got divided,
Speaker 7: which is all part of a tactic, I'm sure. But
Speaker 7: my cousin went to Japan, so it was like crazy,
Speaker 7: like they there's a party downtown Japan or whatever, like
Speaker 7: the main city in Japan. I should know this, but
Speaker 7: there's like this huge but it's like four thousand people
Speaker 7: at this like raver like in this city and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. Wild shit. So he rented a motorcycle okay,
Speaker 7: and then proceeded to crash the motorcycle and get hurt
Speaker 7: and then he was in the hospital and his buddy
Speaker 7: at the time and I know this kid too, Neil.
Speaker 7: Neil left him there.
Speaker 8: He's like, fuck left, doesn't like left the hospital left
Speaker 8: like Japan was like, oh, good luck. And then I remember, like,
Speaker 8: which is crazy. I don't know what he was on,
Speaker 8: but this was like years ago and when MSN still existed,
Speaker 8: so I remember, and this was like early twenties type shit.
Speaker 8: And I don't know why, like how long I exist
Speaker 8: or how long I had that but or something like
Speaker 8: that or email.
Speaker 7: Someone was like, what's going on? Man, He's like, I'm
Speaker 7: just in Japan in the hospital, like and Neil left
Speaker 7: and I was like, whoa, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 4: That's gotta be even freak here back then, because you
Speaker 4: have like even less access Like I feel like now,
Speaker 4: you know, if you've got a cell phone, you're pretty
Speaker 4: connected to most things. You can probably make something work
Speaker 4: or you can contact whoever you need to contact. But
Speaker 4: like back then, like things like MSN fucking email are
Speaker 4: like very hit and miss. It's like, well, if somebody
Speaker 4: doesn't check their email, we.
Speaker 7: Have to do a rand episode. If the fans want
Speaker 7: to go mainstream, like it will, but at least for
Speaker 7: the Patreon this we say subscribe. There's like so much
Speaker 7: stuff on the Patreon and we do it as cheap,
Speaker 7: more cheap than any other podcast out there. But I
Speaker 7: want to do a r an episode talking about the
Speaker 7: nineties and early two thousands and like what it was
Speaker 7: like to go. I want to do an episode about
Speaker 7: Emo shit because I want to. I just want to
Speaker 7: dress up guys Emo again. I just want to do
Speaker 7: it for fun, and if we can get Billy to
Speaker 7: go along with it, that'd be very funny. Billy kind
Speaker 7: of missed that air a bit, the era a bit,
Speaker 7: but let's get to it. So the first story, visiting
Speaker 7: Victoria Falls in Southern Africa is a dream for many,
Speaker 7: but twenty two year old Aaron Langworthy it turned into
Speaker 7: a nightmare. The Australian was the Australian. She was bungee
Speaker 7: jumping off the off Victoria Falls, which is this. I
Speaker 7: would not want to be bungee jumping off of this.
Speaker 7: This looks frightening. It is a massive waterfall. So for me, yeah,
Speaker 7: off this bridge while visiting zim Zambia, I think'd you
Speaker 7: say it like that? I can a fucking butcher some
Speaker 7: of these Zombia.
Speaker 4: That sounds right to me.
Speaker 7: Zambia in twenty twelve, when the court snapped and she
Speaker 7: plunged three hundred and sixty four feet for all the
Speaker 7: listeners in the States, one hundred and eleven meters into
Speaker 7: crocodile infested zam the Zambic River below. She was swept
Speaker 7: down the swollen river with her feet still bound together
Speaker 7: by ten meters thirty feet of rope, and spent forty
Speaker 7: minutes in the water until she finally managed to grab
Speaker 7: onto some rocks and an employee of the Bungetug company
Speaker 7: pulled her onto the river bank. Langworth, Langworth, Langworthy. What
Speaker 7: a weird last name? Victoria? What's your name? Erin? Aaron
Speaker 7: was taken to Victorian Falls Clinic in Zimbabwe, but didn't
Speaker 7: raise the clinic until five hours after she jumped. Though
Speaker 7: her lungs were partially collapsed and her body was covered
Speaker 7: in bruises, Aaron didn't suffer any serious injuries and return
Speaker 7: home two weeks later. She had been the one hundred
Speaker 7: and sixth person to jump off that bridge that day
Speaker 7: and it was just not her lucky day. This is
Speaker 7: why I'm doing this shit, Billy that's what I want
Speaker 7: to jump out of a plane, Billy.
Speaker 4: I nearly I nearly done that a few years ago
Speaker 4: in Florida. Again, I think when I was going there,
Speaker 4: that place just seemed like the wild West. So all
Speaker 4: those things seemed like good ideas to me. But I like,
Speaker 4: in hindsight, I'm actually glad that I didn't do it
Speaker 4: because a guy that I used to, an American guy actually,
Speaker 4: who had moved to Ireland, like when he was like
Speaker 4: a kid but his parents, he was always like a
Speaker 4: kind of a skater dude and always like into that
Speaker 4: kind of like that kind of stuff, if you get
Speaker 4: what I mean, is never good enough to just like
Speaker 4: go to all drunk. Yeah, Like he was always a
Speaker 4: bit like, you know, well, why would I go to
Speaker 4: a skate park when I can like jump off the
Speaker 4: side of this house on my board? And I'm like,
Speaker 4: why do you always have to be that guy? But
Speaker 4: he ended up anyway, later in life he moved.
Speaker 7: To both of his fucking ankles and his knees and
Speaker 7: oh no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Just get much worse. It's much worse. He went to
Speaker 4: Australia and he trained to be a skydiven instructor or
Speaker 4: whatever you call it, Like the guy who goes with
Speaker 4: people attached to him, done that for years, and like
Speaker 4: I want to say, right before COVID, he done a
Speaker 4: jump and something went wrong and he hit the ground
Speaker 4: and died with no parachute.
Speaker 7: Wow. See, this is why I don't want to do this, Billy,
Speaker 7: because he keeps trying to. He was trying to influence
Speaker 7: me and be like, we're doing this for your bachelor party.
Speaker 7: I'm like no, And he enjoyed fucking with me because
Speaker 7: I'm not a fan of heights and he's like I'm
Speaker 7: scared of heights too, man, Like, no, I'm not doing that,
Speaker 7: that risking because I don't Actually, yeah, I'll have control,
Speaker 7: Like that's the idea, right, Like I love horror movies
Speaker 7: because I have control over that, even messing around with
Speaker 7: the Ouiji board to some extent. But an episode for
Speaker 7: another time. When we were out last week and I
Speaker 7: was on mushrooms a little like a very light strain,
Speaker 7: but also I do them so often that my tolerance
Speaker 7: builds up so quick. And we're watching the craft and
Speaker 7: then we're talking about our property where we live, how
Speaker 7: long it's existed in this town, which is like forever
Speaker 7: and like what it was beforehand, and like we've uh
Speaker 7: in the house that I'm in right now, a baby
Speaker 7: has died, a bunch of cat dead cats were found
Speaker 7: in this place, and like her dad took it over.
Speaker 7: The next door neighbor just died recently, stuff like that.
Speaker 7: It was just like, oh, yeah, sounds So then I
Speaker 7: was sitting there out back and we're like, really, our
Speaker 7: property stretches far back where the fire pit is, and
Speaker 7: then you can look back at the house, and I
Speaker 7: was just like getting creeped out, and I was like, man,
Speaker 7: I'm actually like creeped out. Like I was tripping a
Speaker 7: bit still, and I'm like, man, am I gonna see
Speaker 7: somebody walk by in the fucking bushes or some shit.
Speaker 7: I swear to God like stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Even as as a I guess what you would classify
Speaker 4: as a grown man, Yeah, that stuff still makes me
Speaker 4: ship my pants if.
Speaker 7: I get like, I know, especially once like in the future,
Speaker 7: if you come over here, we'll definitely have room to
Speaker 7: stay sooner or later when we like start like renovating
Speaker 7: the house and stuff like that. So it's it's gonna
Speaker 7: be a wild time. You should just move to Canada.
Speaker 7: You know, people have made it work, you know, you know.
Speaker 4: What, right. I was all up for Canada and then
Speaker 4: I met you and you weren't really selling me on Canada.
Speaker 7: No, it's an authoritarian, communist style country. But it's it's
Speaker 7: okay right now. It might get a little worse, but
Speaker 7: they're trying to turn your kids into something that they're
Speaker 7: not in schools, So yeah, it's not it's not fun here,
Speaker 7: especially in Ontario.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, like they just moved there and like just
Speaker 4: live on a property somewhere and just having nobody bought.
Speaker 7: Her, MISSI, I will build a shack out back of
Speaker 7: my property.
Speaker 4: Zed you've read that doesn't have to like conform to
Speaker 4: any like weirdness.
Speaker 7: No, I and most Canadians are against the same things
Speaker 7: that I am. It's just gone too far and most
Speaker 7: most Canadians I don't recognize their country anymore, which is
Speaker 7: quite sad. So let's get to the next one before
Speaker 7: we dive into some of the disappearances and who knows,
Speaker 7: but this one is just fucks because I just want
Speaker 7: to mention it. British tourist Rochelle Harris was on a
Speaker 7: flight back from a holiday in Peru that I would
Speaker 7: love to do preus where you get ayahuasca trips and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. In twenty thirteen, when she began experiencing
Speaker 7: a powerful headache shooting pains in her face, she also
Speaker 7: began hearing strange scratching noises and discharge from her ear.
Speaker 7: On returning home, twenty seven year old Rochelle Harris paid
Speaker 7: visit to the doctor. After initially blaming being blamed on
Speaker 7: maybe an ear infection, doctor soon discovered eight large megots
Speaker 7: wiggling around inside Harris's ear canal ew ew ew. Well,
Speaker 7: this is something really gross that.
Speaker 4: For me would just be like because that's what I'm picturing,
Speaker 4: that's what they look like.
Speaker 7: Really, do I have that? I? Oh, I didn't say
Speaker 7: it man, anyone. Oh no, I wanted to freak you
Speaker 7: out that image And did I not have it? I've
Speaker 7: fucking got an there's an image of like when maggots
Speaker 7: look close up and it is disgusting. I couldn't even
Speaker 7: look at it. It was like making me feel ill. But
Speaker 7: it's pretty much like this.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the idea of that shit in your ear.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is a zoom. Didn't think
Speaker 7: of a megot they look like that. If you like,
Speaker 7: google what a maggot looks like close up? It is disgusting.
Speaker 7: So she remembers walking through a swarm of flies while
Speaker 7: viking on her vacation, and one had been buzzing in
Speaker 7: her ear. But sorry, that's my thing. But but but
Speaker 7: but um uh, and she remembers hearing this buzzing, But
Speaker 7: once she waved the flies away, she thought nothing more
Speaker 7: of it. The insects a New World screwfly, which generally
Speaker 7: lays larva in wounds of warm blooded animals. Once they hatched.
Speaker 7: Twenty four hours later, the magaitude twelve millimeter half an
Speaker 7: inch hole in Rachelle's ear canal sick. The da didn't
Speaker 7: cause any permanent.
Speaker 4: Damage, but so fucked man?
Speaker 7: All right, do you want to I'll throw it to
Speaker 7: you for maybe the first disappearance on vacation. I don't
Speaker 7: know who you have first? But is it one of
Speaker 7: the more famous ones?
Speaker 1: Um?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I feel I feel like upon looking at them,
Speaker 4: all of them are fairly famous. Yeah, a lot more
Speaker 4: famous than I talk. Oh yeah, I guess we'll go
Speaker 4: with the I don't know how you would pronounce it.
Speaker 7: Natalie, Natalie, Natalie Holloway, Natalie Natalie, would you pronounce Natalie? Natalie? Natalie?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 7: I knew it Natalie, Okay, I knew it Lalie when
Speaker 7: I was growing up. And we go with the dances
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and she was like one of
Speaker 7: those chicks that wore makeup before all the chicks did.
Speaker 7: And she kind of reminded me of us of Bulk
Speaker 7: or whatever from the Craft.
Speaker 4: Oh nice, did you kiss her?
Speaker 7: Actually, we're at one dance and me and my buddy
Speaker 7: had a contest of who could get the most kisses.
Speaker 7: And and I don't know why, we're like teenagers. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I would get like, really I found out about weed.
Speaker 7: I would get really stoned. And I remember, like, you
Speaker 7: beat a crowd of people. It's our dances were back
Speaker 7: in the day. They'd be like a wash pit of
Speaker 7: people trying to get into the dance. It was like
Speaker 7: dances that were like sponsored by the community on like
Speaker 7: a week at Friday night or whatever. Right, And we
Speaker 7: had a bet to see who could get the most
Speaker 7: kisses while my girlfriend at the time was outside and
Speaker 7: couldn't get into the dance and was drunk, and I
Speaker 7: was very high and kind of drunk, and then we
Speaker 7: went around and she was the only one that staw
Speaker 7: away to makeup and lipstick. So when I came out
Speaker 7: of the dance, I had lipstick all over my face
Speaker 7: and I could just hear her yelling drunk, and me
Speaker 7: and my friends were like, I gotta get out of here,
Speaker 7: hiding me man because she saw me, and I was
Speaker 7: like and all the like lipstick all over my face
Speaker 7: was not good. I was not a nice boy.
Speaker 4: That sounds pretty hot.
Speaker 7: I wasn't a nice guy though when I was a Teenager's.
Speaker 4: Rude. Not this not little? He didn't know hard right, No,
Speaker 4: maybe I did. That's okay.
Speaker 7: She is very good looking though she is.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was gonna say, I'm gonna start making a
Speaker 4: hat with jokes and like really controversial things, but I
Speaker 4: think I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Speaker 7: She has blonde hair and blue eyes. Yeah, pretty pretty.
Speaker 7: German ancestors' just Kidding's.
Speaker 4: When Natalie Holloway, who was born in October nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 4: went missing during a high school graduation trip to Aruba,
Speaker 4: it sparked an international frenzy with hundreds of volunteers, investigators,
Speaker 4: the FBI, Dutch soldiers, all United in their efforts to
Speaker 4: find a missing girl. Despite several witnesses of her whereabouts
Speaker 4: on the eve of her disappearance, she was never found
Speaker 4: and is currently presumed to be dead.
Speaker 7: Can I say something different? Can we get that much
Speaker 7: of an effort for missing black children or indigenous women?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 7: Like, can we not?
Speaker 4: No? No boring?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gotta be a blonde hair, blue eyed, white
Speaker 7: woman to get the National Guard involved.
Speaker 4: Yep. Ten different people were arrested during the investigation, but
Speaker 4: all were later released and no one has been formally charged.
Speaker 4: Natalie Holloway was reported missing on Mate Hardy at two
Speaker 4: thousand and five after she failed to report to the
Speaker 4: airport for her trip to return home from Aruba. Her
Speaker 4: packed luggage and passport were found in her hotel room.
Speaker 4: Her classmates and friends reported the last seeing her leave
Speaker 4: Carlos and Charlie's restaurant and nightclub with three locals, a
Speaker 4: seventeen year old. I don't know how you pronounced this
Speaker 4: dude's name, because he's pretty famous as well for all
Speaker 4: the wrong reasons. Yeah, that I've seen it pronounce like
Speaker 4: loads like Johann van der Sloop Johan. I think that's
Speaker 4: what it is brothers Deepak Kalpo that Satish. The three
Speaker 4: men were questioned and said that they dropped her off
Speaker 4: at the hotel, forcing police to eventually release them without
Speaker 4: more concrete evidence to the country very but amid their
Speaker 4: subsequent changing stories and additional eyewitness testimonies, the men were
Speaker 4: each arrested several more times throughout the investigation. Thunder Slute
Speaker 4: has remained the primary suspect in the case.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 4: Like this dude, is this dude is ballsy? Right? I
Speaker 4: like I would see it in a second, Like, but
Speaker 4: it's just.
Speaker 7: I just was a beautiful, blonde, blue eyed lady. I
Speaker 7: just picture, like what is it? And everyone's like panicking.
Speaker 7: It's like, what is it another? Is it another black
Speaker 7: baby missing? We don't got time for that. It's like
Speaker 7: it's a it's a beautiful, cheerleading, blonde, blue eyed woman.
Speaker 7: And everyone's like, all right, are hands on deck?
Speaker 4: Perfect? Perfect?
Speaker 7: So it is wild because I know that like this
Speaker 7: happens often and nobody cares until it's and I'll say
Speaker 7: that a white lady.
Speaker 4: The search for her was extensive. During the first few
Speaker 4: days of the search, the Uruban government gave thousands of
Speaker 4: cy servants that they have to help with the search efforts.
Speaker 7: Everybody, Yeah, I know, right.
Speaker 4: Fifty Dutch marines were also deployed to the island to
Speaker 4: sweep the shorelines, and three Dutch F sixteen's were specially
Speaker 4: fitted with infrared imaging devices to scan the land for
Speaker 4: fresh Actually doug graves, but which is wild that they
Speaker 4: went to that extent despite their efforts and over three
Speaker 4: million dollars spent on the investigation, which is over forty
Speaker 4: percent of the Aruban police operational budget. Her body was
Speaker 4: never recovered. So then they have Dutch people her mother,
Speaker 4: then I think this is so. Her mother, Bet has
Speaker 4: criticized the investigation, which has been accused of alleged bribery,
Speaker 4: cover ups, and corruption, and she continues to keep hope
Speaker 4: for the return of her She has since partnered in
Speaker 4: founding the Natalie Holloway Resource Center, which offers aid and
Speaker 4: support the families of those who have recently gone missing.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. Tiaries abound as to what has actually
Speaker 4: happened to her.
Speaker 1: Why the.
Speaker 7: Sex trade? Yeah, you know what I mean, she's a
Speaker 7: beautiful white lady.
Speaker 4: When she was seventeen.
Speaker 7: At seventeen, Yeah, that would this is what is what
Speaker 7: they're looking for?
Speaker 4: Eighty six ninety six. Sorry, no, she wasn't. She was
Speaker 4: a little bit older. She makes it even weirder. And
Speaker 4: she was nineteen and that van der Slut dude was seventeen. Yeah, weird.
Speaker 4: Thearies as to what actually happened, so Vandersloute changed his
Speaker 4: story of the events several times. After stating that he
Speaker 4: and the brothers dropped her off at the hotel, he
Speaker 4: was later recorded saying that he and Holloway spent some
Speaker 4: time on the beach, where he left her alone by
Speaker 4: her own will. In a later interview, vander Slow claimed
Speaker 4: to have sold her into slavery, and then afterwards recanted
Speaker 4: his testimony. Why would march I know it's which started
Speaker 4: the dude, Like, I really don't understand this, dude. In
Speaker 4: March twenty ten, Vandersloute extorted twenty five thousand dollars from
Speaker 4: Natalie's mother, demanding that she wired the money to his
Speaker 4: account in exchange for the location of Natalie's remains. After
Speaker 4: receiving the money, he revealed the location, but investigators found
Speaker 4: nothing there. And also another little side note on that
Speaker 4: twenty five thousand dollars wasn't actually the amount he was
Speaker 4: looking for. That was the deposit he wanted. Two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty grand in total is what he was actually
Speaker 4: looking for. I didn't even think you could get away
Speaker 4: with doing something like that.
Speaker 7: Well, we know in Canada if you listened to our
Speaker 7: our episode on serial killer, give me a side, whatever,
Speaker 7: just keep going, it will come to me. But they
Speaker 7: paid a serial killer, Clifford Olsen, like money, thousands of
Speaker 7: dollars to find the bodies of his victims, and I,
Speaker 7: as far as I'm concerned, I think the family did
Speaker 7: get it. They might with withheld some of it, but
Speaker 7: they He was like, if you give my may give
Speaker 7: me this much money, I'll show you where the bodies
Speaker 7: are at. And he like, I'm pretty sure I remember
Speaker 7: the episode correctly. He got away with it. I'll tell
Speaker 7: you where her body is if you pay me.
Speaker 4: So fucked so yeah, he demanded the money and he
Speaker 4: gave them locations, but they found nothing. Almost immediately after this,
Speaker 4: on twenty ten, he was arrested. This is fucking wild.
Speaker 4: He was arrested in Peru for the martyr of a
Speaker 4: woman named Stephanie Floresund strangled in his hotel room. After
Speaker 4: can infescing to the crime. He was sentenced to twenty
Speaker 4: eight years in prison, after which he potentially faces extradition
Speaker 4: to the US for an indictment on the extortion charges.
Speaker 4: There were many rumors about his dad's involvement, supposedly training
Speaker 4: to be a judge at the time. Apparently he paid
Speaker 4: off two police officers, he rented a boat and got
Speaker 4: rid of the body in the ocean he ended. His
Speaker 4: dad actually ended up as as a managing partner for
Speaker 4: the firm that represented him in court over the false
Speaker 4: attainments and stuff like that. The story of Anderslot is
Speaker 4: wild involves multiple potential murders, drugs, and human trafficking rings.
Speaker 4: In January twenty twenty three, eighteen years were added to
Speaker 4: Vander Slut's sentence for trafficking cocaine. Wild in prison. On
Speaker 4: June eighth, twenty twenty three, which is not actually that long,
Speaker 4: like two months ago, he was extra outed to the
Speaker 4: United States to face trial for extortion and wire fraud
Speaker 4: linking to Natalie's disappearance. And that's the status as it
Speaker 4: stands now.
Speaker 7: It's a wild case. I always knew about Natalie Holloway.
Speaker 7: I've heard about this case numerous times. It's sad like
Speaker 7: and that's why I it is sad, but I just
Speaker 7: want to make people aware and clarify. This happens all
Speaker 7: the time in Canada to Indigenous women. Nobody cares, nobody
Speaker 7: cares like, and there's like, especially in certain places, there's
Speaker 7: plastered posters and signs and stuff like that of all
Speaker 7: these Indigenous women that constantly go missing in the RCMP
Speaker 7: doesn't do their job to do that, but they can
Speaker 7: freeze the bank accounts of Canadians that support a peaceful protest.
Speaker 7: That's why I'm like, I don't like what's going on
Speaker 7: in my country and all that stuff. But even in
Speaker 7: the States, how many black children go missing and then
Speaker 7: nobody cares about it and it's like disturbing. And as
Speaker 7: soon as it's some like beautiful blonde white lady, I
Speaker 7: get why people get mad and there's like dark jokes
Speaker 7: humor about this. The fact that it is and that's
Speaker 7: why I try to do it in my attempt is
Speaker 7: because it's sad that she went missing. She probably is
Speaker 7: either dead or is still in the sex ring being used.
Speaker 4: To which probably worse.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you get in and eventually when me and Aaron
Speaker 7: do cover Hostile on Class Forecast. That shit does happen,
Speaker 7: maybe not to I even think to probably a worse
Speaker 7: extent of what the torture and stuff like that and
Speaker 7: some of the things that they do, but that stuff
Speaker 7: is very real. And that movie, why I bring it up,
Speaker 7: does show how they use like young, good looking dudes
Speaker 7: to kind of influence women, especially younger women, and like
Speaker 7: nineteen is still good. You're still fresh for another how
Speaker 7: many years in their eyes, not mine, but you understand
Speaker 7: like that eventually, and then you just either get killed
Speaker 7: or probably used for something as obscure as like cleaning
Speaker 7: up after certain stuff. And you know they or or
Speaker 7: what they do.
Speaker 4: Because sometimes I feel like they just sounds so grim
Speaker 4: and this is not my opinion or whatever, but it's
Speaker 4: just the facts. I think. Is like you know, like
Speaker 4: you said that, you know they take these girls when
Speaker 4: they're maybe eighteen nineteen, you know they've went on their
Speaker 4: first post high school pre college trip or something like that,
Speaker 4: and yeah, and they're like fresh, like you said. And
Speaker 4: I think a lot of times after being used for
Speaker 4: however many years, they give them the out of like hey,
Speaker 4: you can help us like recruit more, and like we
Speaker 4: won't rate a million times a day and whatever, so
Speaker 4: you can just be.
Speaker 7: Like, see, I was gonna go in a different way,
Speaker 7: darker road is they would use their organs eventually. Well, yeah,
Speaker 7: because as much as people don't want to think about that,
Speaker 7: I've done enough research to know that that happens more
Speaker 7: often than anyone would like to admit, and that they
Speaker 7: use big business. Yeah, it's huge business. And that's why
Speaker 7: I do believe like eventually we're going to get into
Speaker 7: an urban legend episode. We're gonna bring Brett and Billy together.
Speaker 7: I think it might be even Sowyer from the Pine
Speaker 7: Size Conspiracy episode. It might be like a big thing
Speaker 7: of all four of us and I try to do
Speaker 7: something that we could have banter. It's it would be
Speaker 7: incoherent to try to do a structured episode without little
Speaker 7: stories involving in it, you know what I mean. Just
Speaker 7: doing a big encompassing case we have four people on
Speaker 7: it gets tough, uh, you know, to like kind of
Speaker 7: keep and especially with jokes and shit. Some people are
Speaker 7: gonna say, so there's one of the urban legends about
Speaker 7: how kind of like in Romania and places like that.
Speaker 7: And I had someone tell me this specifically, and that
Speaker 7: their wife was on a phone with someone who saw
Speaker 7: this happen. So that's I'm like, is this a is
Speaker 7: it you tell me a nerbal legend? And I was
Speaker 7: like nineteen twenty work on the restaurant industry, and it
Speaker 7: was the told the story, this is this bug the
Speaker 7: guy that can fucking change the pest stuff, and that
Speaker 7: they will cut they they will cut the you open
Speaker 7: and take your organs. And he said that his wife
Speaker 7: was on the phone with her friend in Romania or
Speaker 7: some country like that, and she saw her someone's out
Speaker 7: playing with a ball and then she saw the boy
Speaker 7: get like slit kind of up ear to ear, fucking
Speaker 7: stomach and testines for like, and they just took what
Speaker 7: they could and then just fucking dart off in a van.
Speaker 7: And that now that I read the urban legend, I'm like,
Speaker 7: is this stories that people tell to kind of like
Speaker 7: because I was young and this guy was like, he
Speaker 7: heard me talking about the Illuminati and the Reptilians, and
Speaker 7: he's the one that told me that if if you
Speaker 7: were to embody a physical vessel, a reptilian style humanoid
Speaker 7: body would probably be the best.
Speaker 4: I mean, the other side of me is I can't
Speaker 4: in a way, I can't help but feel like that
Speaker 4: all those urban legends come from somewhere.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they come from real stories, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so it's like, huh yeah, because even watching even prepping
Speaker 7: to get into our I know what he did last
Speaker 7: summer series on class forecasts, right, like watching that, how
Speaker 7: they joke about its fucking fight, Prince Junior's joke about it. Oh,
Speaker 7: or religions come from a real story. And I even said,
Speaker 7: I was like, is that true? Though me and were
Speaker 7: watching it, I was like, no, that's true, is it?
Speaker 7: And but I I think that there might hold some
Speaker 7: truth to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty key. Like I would like to think, oh,
Speaker 4: it's all bullshit, none of this happens, But I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's hard to tell anymore what is real and what
Speaker 7: is not, you know. So let's get into the disappearance
Speaker 7: of Amy Lynn Bradley. It's a very bizarre story. It's
Speaker 7: very weird. So Bradley was a twenty three year old
Speaker 7: woman from Virginia who is missing on a Royal Caribbean
Speaker 7: International cruise with their family on March nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 7: Missing on a cruise ship is probably pretty scary, to
Speaker 7: be honest.
Speaker 4: So I right, and this sounds right, do her because
Speaker 4: they're supposed to be like terrible and like the most
Speaker 4: gross things ever. But I have this, like one of
Speaker 4: my book list things is to do a cruise like
Speaker 4: from I don't know if it's like Miami or somewhere
Speaker 4: like that, and do not like, is it like the
Speaker 4: Caribbean or whatever it is.
Speaker 7: I know we've talked about it because even Chelsea's like
Speaker 7: has heard that there. You know that cruises can be
Speaker 7: pretty fun, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and I would love to do it once. But
Speaker 4: then I also hear a lot of stories about how
Speaker 4: when you basically step foot on a cruise ship it's
Speaker 4: like the wild West. So I've got to be prepared
Speaker 4: for literally anything to go around.
Speaker 7: So when I was younger and I was a chef,
Speaker 7: my dad's like, oh, you should go like work on
Speaker 7: a cruise ship. I as it cook. It'd be cool,
Speaker 7: like they're always looking and you get to vacation a bit.
Speaker 7: And then I talked to a chef, an older one,
Speaker 7: and he was like, don't do that. And I was
Speaker 7: like why and he's like, they treat you like shit.
Speaker 7: You're on that boat for however long a whole summer,
Speaker 7: sometimes a couple of months where you're living on this
Speaker 7: boat and you're working for them, and they and they
Speaker 7: know because you're not going to go back home for
Speaker 7: a long time, they can treat you like garbage, so like,
Speaker 7: and that's just that's the cooks, right. So the people
Speaker 7: are coming on the boat, you know, you have everyone
Speaker 7: that's disgruntled and and and the stuff and the staff
Speaker 7: and you know, and I'm sure they try to act pleasant,
Speaker 7: but I'm I don't know. Cruise ships seem kind of
Speaker 7: sketchy to me. And considering what we're going to talk about,
Speaker 7: how many people they go missing off of cruise ships
Speaker 7: or fell off or anything that happens so often it's
Speaker 7: wild that always.
Speaker 4: And that's another thing about like, like I obviously true
Speaker 4: crime and like strange and mysterious disappearance is probably more
Speaker 4: than ending more. I think I just become fascinated with
Speaker 4: like the idea of like how these things happen. And
Speaker 4: it's freaky to me how many people have gone missing
Speaker 4: or just like disappeared.
Speaker 7: From cruise ships and and and disappeared. In general, cruise
Speaker 7: ships is a huge thing. And I'm the same way,
Speaker 7: right like that, I try to put myself in their shoes.
Speaker 7: I've watched a lot of horror movies I feel like
Speaker 7: in my life, so I feel like I I think
Speaker 7: about it in this very detailed, complex manner where I
Speaker 7: try to put myself in their shoes and try to
Speaker 7: think what it'd be like to be walking alone at
Speaker 7: night on the cruise ship and while you're drunk. You're
Speaker 7: kind of drunk, just walking and it's like oo, you
Speaker 7: hear like the water and stuff like that, and then
Speaker 7: you can just slip and fall and then you're gone forever.
Speaker 7: Nobody's gonna find you. And then you get in by
Speaker 7: sharks or god knows what are you just like eventually
Speaker 7: you just like would be a dead body floating in
Speaker 7: the water and then sink and then you're just fish
Speaker 7: food and you're gone forever.
Speaker 4: The idea of going overboard on a ship's in general,
Speaker 4: but then the idea of going overboard off of.
Speaker 7: A cruise ship at the dead and night.
Speaker 4: In the dark, and ye that like no amount of
Speaker 4: emon or shouting is going to like do anything. And
Speaker 4: let's say you didn't die from the fall or whatever,
Speaker 4: then maybe still being coherent enough to watch that ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, go, and that ship is gone. It is pitch
Speaker 7: dark other than the stars above you. It would be
Speaker 7: the scariest, most frightening feelings in the entire world, next
Speaker 7: to maybe being sex trafficked or some other horrible things.
Speaker 7: Now being in the house of a serial killer, but
Speaker 7: one of one of a huge fear, I'm sure chill know,
Speaker 7: because you think of like even that movie like The Titanic,
Speaker 7: and now they're with a bunch of people and they
Speaker 7: try to display how like cold it is, first of all,
Speaker 7: because it depends where you are, it could be freezing.
Speaker 7: And then it's just like once that boat is gone,
Speaker 7: that all your source of light is gone. It's only
Speaker 7: the stars above that light that what barely you can
Speaker 7: see in front of you. Frightening. So on the evening
Speaker 7: she disappeared, Bradley was at a club on the ship.
Speaker 7: She had a drink with the members of the house
Speaker 7: band after their set and then went off on her
Speaker 7: own about one am, so very late, according to one
Speaker 7: of the band members. Bradley was spotted by her father
Speaker 7: at five thirty am next day, and he said she
Speaker 7: was asleep on the balcony of their cabin by six am,
Speaker 7: Bradley had vanished an hour later. This chick is gone.
Speaker 7: At the time of her disappearance, the ship had been
Speaker 7: heading from Aruba to Kuwacob.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna perhaps this.
Speaker 7: Why can I not pronounce anything on his show? And
Speaker 7: I know how to pronounce this, but here, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: bring it up. I'm gonna start googling things, so I know,
Speaker 7: Kroco that sound right, I'm gonna I hate butchering this shit.
Speaker 7: Pronounci so embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I'm as bad like so I standing, okay.
Speaker 7: Currosaud God, I knew that because it's a fucking liquor
Speaker 7: called currasud. God damn it it. It looks like something
Speaker 7: very different. And I remember, like, this is based on
Speaker 7: of a liquor, a flavored liquor that's pretty good. They
Speaker 7: have different flavors. And I used to call Kraco and
Speaker 7: it's Suracao, and I remember I'd probably be like, that's
Speaker 7: not how you pronounce it, pronouncing it wrong for a
Speaker 7: long time.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 7: So the ship docked at the search for Bradley and
Speaker 7: began because they realized, oh no, another white woman is missing,
Speaker 7: you know, And the image that they used on some
Speaker 7: of the FBI stuff is not appealing. In my opinion,
Speaker 7: they should have used a different image and maybe people
Speaker 7: would have cared more. I'm fucking kidding, feel bad. It
Speaker 7: is sad that she went missing and frightening that she
Speaker 7: just disappeared off of a fucking cruise ship.
Speaker 4: What did you just say?
Speaker 7: I said that they used to better photo.
Speaker 4: For because I was gonna okay, so I'll I'll take
Speaker 4: the heat for this one now and say what I
Speaker 4: was going to say a minute ago, so everyone will
Speaker 4: forget what you just said. I was going to say, Well,
Speaker 4: it's one thing is for sure here. She wasn't sex trafficked.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we're all about. We're all
Speaker 7: about the dark humor. So I hope people like it. Well,
Speaker 7: this is what you're here for. If you don't know that,
Speaker 7: I don't know why you're listening at this point, but
Speaker 7: we want all the fans that truly understand what we're
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Speaker 7: to The Patriot. So she went missing and saying so
Speaker 7: after a pair of tourists once they like docked, claimed
Speaker 7: to have seen Bradley in Sarah Cow saying they recognized
Speaker 7: her tattoos, yet Bradley remained missing. In nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 7: a Navy claimed to have encountered her in a brothel.
Speaker 7: So maybe she was a butterface where she's like had
Speaker 7: that rock and body. God, I feel so bad. I
Speaker 7: can't be saying that show in this episode. This is
Speaker 7: a missing person and she's probably not alive, to be honest,
Speaker 7: it's very sad. But he said that she told her
Speaker 7: her name and asked for help, which is frightening. That
Speaker 7: sounds like she did get sex trafficked or at least
Speaker 7: abducted and put into this brothel. And I'm sure it's
Speaker 7: devastating to her family and hearing that. And she said
Speaker 7: she was being held captive there at this brothel. So
Speaker 7: for me, could this guy be trying to get attention?
Speaker 7: This is a Navy man, though they should be honorable
Speaker 7: in that.
Speaker 4: Like I went pretty like deep into her story a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago when I first came across her
Speaker 4: name and whatever, and like there's for me anyway, personally,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of like and I don't mean this
Speaker 4: as like, oh, maybe we should look at like her
Speaker 4: family or whatever per se, but like there's a lot
Speaker 4: of little inconsistencies, like where her parents said she was
Speaker 4: terrified of the open sea and she had to be
Speaker 4: convinced to go on the cruise in the first list. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and she wouldn't walk up to like the rails her
Speaker 4: her dad and her brother had to like hold her
Speaker 4: by the arms so she could like look over because
Speaker 4: she was so afraid. And then like that she's she
Speaker 4: on a turder Fortnite or whatever it is of the
Speaker 4: cruise she they parodied till like four am, and then
Speaker 4: she comes back to the room and she tells her dad, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm not feeling well from like the motion, so I'm
Speaker 4: going to sleep on the fucking balcony. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: she's for She's forgotten that she like is afraid or anything.
Speaker 4: And now I know when you're when you're drunk and stuff,
Speaker 4: things can change. But to do a complete one, Eddy,
Speaker 4: but like, I actually really like the ocean now and
Speaker 4: I want to be drunk on the battlecony.
Speaker 7: Do you think that which is quite possible, especially God
Speaker 7: knows who's going on these cruise ships to find people
Speaker 7: and like it, thinking about it could be quite easy
Speaker 7: in some regard for someone who is skilled at taking people,
Speaker 7: you know, like the movie Taken, because you even look
Speaker 7: at that movie, it is based on how they can
Speaker 7: take women. And then he's trying to find his dark
Speaker 7: phenomena movie. I do enjoy it and him going after
Speaker 7: the people, but even you see how they even set
Speaker 7: that up. But I'm sure you know if you paid
Speaker 7: to go on the couple guys paid to go on
Speaker 7: the cruise, and then you kind of like watch certain
Speaker 7: people and then you observe them, see what they're doing,
Speaker 7: what they act, like, they learn cues of their emotional
Speaker 7: state because you can do that by looking at it.
Speaker 7: Many things that people physically do to show their mental state.
Speaker 7: And then you drug them, right, you get you drug
Speaker 7: and their drink. They think they're drunk. And then she
Speaker 7: passed out on the you know, they follow her and
Speaker 7: just watch her from a distance. She passes out in public,
Speaker 7: and then to everybody else, she's just hanging on to
Speaker 7: a guy she knows or is married to, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, there's there's so many weird things about this,
Speaker 4: like then that all these the first one weird that
Speaker 4: like discovered that she wasn't on the balcony anymore or whatever,
Speaker 4: but then you know, they said stuff about like between
Speaker 4: five thirty and six am. Then know that she changed
Speaker 4: her clothes completely and that she took her cigarettes. Yeah
Speaker 4: that's weird and stuff like that. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: so now you're saying she came back in from the
Speaker 4: balcony and got changed out whatever she was in and
Speaker 4: took her cigarettes and stuff and left the room. And
Speaker 4: then like they had, you know, they docked and stuff,
Speaker 4: and apparently they went to the captain or whatever and said, like,
Speaker 4: you know, our daughter's missing. You need to get on
Speaker 4: the the loudspeakers or whatever and put a call out,
Speaker 4: and they were like, no, it's too early. We can't.
Speaker 4: We can't use the speakers. It's too early. And like
Speaker 4: they had docked and the family were like, okay, can
Speaker 4: we either back away from the dock right now or
Speaker 4: just make sure that nobody leaves the ship till we
Speaker 4: find out what's going on And they were like no, no,
Speaker 4: it's all good and just and they just let people disembark.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know, and I'm not saying that the cruise lines
Speaker 4: are involved, but like part of me has to wonder,
Speaker 4: like is there a bigger like you mentioned taken and
Speaker 4: that kind of gives you a slight. I know it's
Speaker 4: obviously a Hollywood movie, but it's like glimpse into potentially
Speaker 4: how big those.
Speaker 7: Okay, get this, okay, right right, think about this conspiracy corner.
Speaker 7: All right, you get you get like Jeffrey Epstein money.
Speaker 7: You know, you fucking you're a philanthropist, and you just
Speaker 7: make tons of money doing very shady things that are
Speaker 7: all connected to very powerful people. You buy a nice,
Speaker 7: big boat and I always say, like a cruise ship.
Speaker 7: You name it something fancy, and then you know, you
Speaker 7: just make people disappear, not as off the word that
Speaker 7: people would ask questions, but enough where you can make
Speaker 7: a good income from it. You know, I'm sure there's
Speaker 7: gonna scare people going on vacation or on cruise ships,
Speaker 7: and I hope it does, because this shit is fucking
Speaker 7: bizarre how often that it happens, especially on cruise ships
Speaker 7: or on vacations in places you don't know in general,
Speaker 7: like Madame Madeline McCain, right, that's my name, McCain, McCain, McCann,
Speaker 7: Like you said, that is just the surface. They focus
Speaker 7: on one small case. I said this at work because
Speaker 7: we're getting into this episode and they focus on these
Speaker 7: little one case of this one person going missing, yet
Speaker 7: it happens by the thousands.
Speaker 4: Well yeah in one sense, like because a lot of
Speaker 4: people say, yeah, but if there was, if there really
Speaker 4: was these rings or these.
Speaker 7: Like eighty five thousand children are missing at the poet know.
Speaker 4: That like groups that groups do this or whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: why why would they let it become so international and widespread?
Speaker 4: And I was like, think about this for a second. Right,
Speaker 4: if you're trafficking hundreds of thousands of people and children, right,
Speaker 4: and one case gets so much press, like to the
Speaker 4: point where it just floods everything, and like it still
Speaker 4: does to this day, that's a really good distraction. Yes,
Speaker 4: it might be about the things you're doing, but they
Speaker 4: haven't a fucking encrus Just continue on.
Speaker 7: I have to look this up if this is factual.
Speaker 7: But I don't know what is factual anymore because every
Speaker 7: internet service is probably lying to you and giving you
Speaker 7: articles that are based on fabrications. But the person I
Speaker 7: heard that, the person that rated the Amber alert was
Speaker 7: connected to the Clintons. And it's actually a big distraction
Speaker 7: tool because if the Amber alert worked and you were
Speaker 7: actually if they're actually tracking the amount of children that
Speaker 7: went missing, even around your area or in certain places,
Speaker 7: it would be like every hour, how often that's how
Speaker 7: often children go missing. So it would be like once
Speaker 7: a week, you know what I mean, if you were
Speaker 7: in your area, it's in your province, in your state,
Speaker 7: in your country, it would be like more often than
Speaker 7: you could even imagine. Which is it should frighten people.
Speaker 7: And like I've said before, the Sound of Freedom, I've
Speaker 7: yet to watch it. I actually really want to. I've
Speaker 7: heard good things, but there's one point that I need
Speaker 7: to make. Is it leading to any arrests? No, it's
Speaker 7: making people aware that this stuff happens. We already know
Speaker 7: if you understand this fucking planet that we live on
Speaker 7: or whatever the fuck it is, that this happens too often.
Speaker 7: It shouldn't happen as often as it does. It happens
Speaker 7: more often than you can even imagine. And that putting
Speaker 7: a movie out there is it's not leading to anybody's
Speaker 7: arrest Where the block book that was.
Speaker 4: The thing I found was like when everybody was talking
Speaker 4: about all this shit about like the air conditioning, like
Speaker 4: going and all the theaters, Oh my god, I can't
Speaker 4: see Sound of Freedom the conspiracy, and I think people
Speaker 4: are more interested in like the TikTok conspiracy about like
Speaker 4: why I can't watch this movie than hold last second,
Speaker 4: like they didn't invent the wheel here? Like did anybody
Speaker 4: go to see that movie and go trafficing is real?
Speaker 7: I know exactly that that dude, the dude that is
Speaker 7: the main character of that movie. I can't remember his name,
Speaker 7: but yeah, if you want to look it up quickly.
Speaker 7: I just want to mention that he's a little bit
Speaker 7: of a sketchy character that seems to me telling these
Speaker 7: outlandish tales. And the weirdest thing is quite strange is
Speaker 7: that he was doing one interview and he was wearing
Speaker 7: a Masonic tie. So I saw people like in the
Speaker 7: in the known, in the know, people that try to
Speaker 7: be very aware of all sides of stuff. We're calling
Speaker 7: it the Sound of Freemasonry.
Speaker 4: There is there is something weird about him, though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I really think that this isn't being
Speaker 7: used as another distraction away from oh everyone's aware of it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 7: we're all aware of it and you know, but nothing's
Speaker 7: being done about it. We should have people should be
Speaker 7: standing up in like the millions to be like, enough
Speaker 7: of this, Why is this happening? But we don't, And
Speaker 7: there's no explanation for Ghislaine Maxwell, she got arrested for
Speaker 7: trafficking to know one because of the episode. I just
Speaker 7: want to bring this stuff up because it's I want
Speaker 7: people to realize that, like, yeah, we're aware of it. Now, Okay,
Speaker 7: now what are we do.
Speaker 4: Yet? Just be that.
Speaker 7: Just like that, when we talk about David Grush and
Speaker 7: all that shit that has his name and the UFO shit,
Speaker 7: it's just like they and I said this, that's probably
Speaker 7: a distraction. He gives you no fucking evidence. It's just
Speaker 7: a statement from a guy that is an insider and
Speaker 7: worked for the government. So we're just supposed to believe
Speaker 7: his fairy tales of shit, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: while providing no evidence, you know. So it's quite bizarre.
Speaker 7: I miss like it's it pisses me off because it's
Speaker 7: happening at such a large scale, and I believe it's
Speaker 7: being used for stuff like adrena. Crown people don't believe
Speaker 7: that shit, Fine, I don't give a shit. It's dangerous.
Speaker 7: What is happening, and it's been happening for a very
Speaker 7: long time, and now people are like aware of it. Okay,
Speaker 7: the first step is awareness, I understand that. But now
Speaker 7: what we're gonna actually, you know, protest in the millions,
Speaker 7: and we're demand who Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking to. Oh,
Speaker 7: we can't because they're control the world that you live in,
Speaker 7: dumb dumbs. So on. On the episode of Doctor Phil,
Speaker 7: Bradley's parents said that here have been sent a photo
Speaker 7: of a woman that could have been Bradley Vietnam as
Speaker 7: sender in the photo of the woman is scantily dressed,
Speaker 7: which adds fuel to the theory that Bradley was kidnapped
Speaker 7: and sold into sex slavery. And then we'll get to
Speaker 7: the next case quickly. I just want to see if
Speaker 7: I can find that image. I don't know if they
Speaker 7: would show it. I did look for image. Oh I
Speaker 7: found it.
Speaker 4: Which image is that she's not?
Speaker 7: She's scantily dressed. I'm trying to pull it up. It
Speaker 7: looks kind of like shit.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, the image of her on the bed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I try to break his computer, doesn't let me save.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 7: It's looks like her, but she kind of looks like
Speaker 7: she's having a good time. It's fucking I don't know,
Speaker 7: this is fucking scary. Here, let me fine, I just
Speaker 7: want to pull up this for everybody on the video
Speaker 7: side of things. Okay, let's look at this. Okay, look
Speaker 7: at what they did to her in the progression of
Speaker 7: what it's a it's a missing person photo. And then
Speaker 7: they excel it to what age she could be at now,
Speaker 7: and they gave her no, no, no, no chin no
Speaker 7: nothing she get. They gave her like her head is
Speaker 7: the size of her neck, and it looks kind of scary.
Speaker 7: She looks like a worm a bit. They didn't do
Speaker 7: a good job. Do you see what I'm seeing? Is
Speaker 7: that bad to say?
Speaker 4: In the middle one, she looks like those fucking those
Speaker 4: warm dudes are the men in black?
Speaker 7: No, that's what I'm saying. They didn't do a good
Speaker 7: job because she's not like her. They made her head
Speaker 7: look the same size of her neck is that of
Speaker 7: the conspiracy and this is the picture.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 7: It's bizarre. It looks just like it. In the teeth
Speaker 7: even that's kind of frightening. And I don't know, you
Speaker 7: can kind of see in her eyes that.
Speaker 4: She's a little bit of a wonky and it looks
Speaker 4: like she has that same wonky yeah, but.
Speaker 7: Even her you can tell that she's like it seems
Speaker 7: like if you read like man Uism's bio language, it
Speaker 7: looks like she's kind of like it looks like she's uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: But being like it looks like she doesn't like what's
Speaker 7: going on. I think that might be her and that
Speaker 7: is fucking frightening that and it doesn't it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: I'm sure, like, you know, there's people that prefer kids,
Speaker 7: and she's like that fucked up, okay, But I'm sure
Speaker 7: there's people that prefer like other shit too. It's a
Speaker 7: big business, the sex trade, you know, And I'm sure
Speaker 7: that sometimes it doesn't matter really what you look like,
Speaker 7: because you're just a body to be used.
Speaker 4: Here's a question, right, Other than like, obviously I know kids,
Speaker 4: it is a different thing in itself, a lot.
Speaker 7: More expensive to look up hot dogs and what they're worth.
Speaker 4: Do dudes ever get abducted?
Speaker 7: I don't know. I'm sure they do. I'm sure little
Speaker 7: boys do, which is fucked up, but I'm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm talking about like, you know, when we
Speaker 4: go into like the seventeen eighty nineteen year old guys.
Speaker 7: I'm sure there's gonna be a fucking that's something.
Speaker 4: I'd like to look up at something and see, like
Speaker 4: is that actually a thing? Yeah, because I feel like
Speaker 4: there's like the world is all fucked that, Like I
Speaker 4: don't know if you could find something. We could probably
Speaker 4: sit here and try and think of the most bizarre
Speaker 4: random thing. Yeah, yeah, and it would and then like
Speaker 4: you would google it or whatever, and like you would
Speaker 4: find it. There's like a whole community that like a door.
Speaker 7: I'm sure that younger men have gone missing. I feel
Speaker 7: like it's slightly hard or it sounds bad, but there's
Speaker 7: a big difference between men and women. If people haven't
Speaker 7: paid attention to it, I don't know. If I don't
Speaker 7: think that's a thing. I think I think it's very new.
Speaker 7: People for centuries have been believing that they can just
Speaker 7: identify as a fucking banana, and then they were like
Speaker 7: they turn like into some soft mush thing that you
Speaker 7: peel away and you eat like a fucking monkey.
Speaker 4: That's a weird analogy.
Speaker 7: But that you know, you would think that like you
Speaker 7: would be more I don't know, men, even younger men,
Speaker 7: they I feel like it'd be a little harder to
Speaker 7: try to kidnap them because there is physical strength even
Speaker 7: you're like, if you're a fat dude, nobody wants you.
Speaker 7: But if you're a good looking this sounds bad. But
Speaker 7: if you're a good looking like strong, like you know,
Speaker 7: or even skinny, your younger dude, you I don't know.
Speaker 7: I feel like men are more inclined to punch you
Speaker 7: in the face, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 7: They're more like they will get aggressive. We have this tosterone,
Speaker 7: so we will like you'll end up getting like aggressive
Speaker 7: and angry, and then your fucking nose is bloody, you know.
Speaker 7: Try to pick up this kid as a younger kid
Speaker 7: when they're a week you know what I mean. You
Speaker 7: get someone like the Rock, which I think he's involved
Speaker 7: with some shady shit I've heard, you know, a big,
Speaker 7: strong guy. You know he'll be able to take him on.
Speaker 7: But I feel like it's definitely I think that exists
Speaker 7: for sure younger men, because like people have preferences, right,
Speaker 7: and you're selling people right, so like it could you know,
Speaker 7: if you want a little bit of this or a
Speaker 7: little bit of that there. I'm sure they have all
Speaker 7: sorts of things. They probably have like the fat room,
Speaker 7: you know, Kenry Kissinger goes in there, stupid, all right,
Speaker 7: next story because this is like so.
Speaker 4: Deepaky, let's see, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: skip it over one and come back to it, and
Speaker 4: we're going to kind of keep with the team to
Speaker 4: a degree. So obviously the first case, like Coverard was
Speaker 4: set in a Ruba, and it looks like we're going
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how freaky a Ruba has turned out
Speaker 4: to be a story of Robin Gardner Guard Guard on
Speaker 4: the second of August twenty eleven.
Speaker 7: I can understand why trafficked. Now, she's a good looking woman.
Speaker 7: Just she is, you know what, right, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say similar to Natalie Holloway, but
Speaker 4: like again, it's like the the blonde hair, like the
Speaker 4: slim you know, that's slime kind of whatever.
Speaker 7: There's Robin, there's Natalie, Natalie and then Robin.
Speaker 4: You know, their mother and daughter conspiracy. Thirty five year
Speaker 4: old Robin Gardner had been staying with her boyfriend Richard
Speaker 4: Forrester at his house in Maryland, United States. She had
Speaker 4: a nice life. She loved to travel, loved her two cats,
Speaker 4: Kobe and TOONSI, and enjoyed shows like The Real Housewives
Speaker 4: of New York. Richard and Robin had decided they would
Speaker 4: like to live together and had just started looking for
Speaker 4: a new home. On the thirty first of July, Robin
Speaker 4: told Richard she was going to Florida to see her parents.
Speaker 4: They lived in Florida, so it was a trip she
Speaker 4: frequently made before she left Maryland. Robin and Richard had
Speaker 4: an argument. Robin went to Florida, but she didn't intend
Speaker 4: on staying there. From there, she flew to Aruba, and
Speaker 4: she wasn't alone. She went with a fifty year old
Speaker 4: businessman called Gary Giordano. I think I think that's how
Speaker 4: you pronounce it. Apparently he paid for the trip. Robin
Speaker 4: had known Gary for over a year. They had met online.
Speaker 4: He asked her to go on several different trips with him,
Speaker 4: but she said no every single time. However, the Aruba
Speaker 4: trip was different. She decided to say yes. She had
Speaker 4: recently lost her job as a patient coordinator in the
Speaker 4: dental office and wanted to clear her head. Robin's friend,
Speaker 4: Christina Jones, wasn't happy about the trip. Christina saw text
Speaker 4: messages Gary sent Robin when she turned down the trip
Speaker 4: on a cruise previously. On that occasion, she went to
Speaker 4: New York instead with Richard, and Christina said, Gary flipped
Speaker 4: when he found out. Even after Robin was aware of
Speaker 4: this side of Gary, she trusted him and she thought
Speaker 4: that the breakaway would do her good. They arrived in
Speaker 4: a rub But on the thirty first of July and
Speaker 4: checked into the Marriott Hotel. Guests at the hotel and
Speaker 4: on the island saw them at different locations. They went
Speaker 4: to the beach, different bars, restaurants, and a casino. Two
Speaker 4: days after they arrived, on the second of August, Gary
Speaker 4: and Robin went to the rum Reef baron Grill in
Speaker 4: the Baby Beach area of the island. At the bar,
Speaker 4: Robin and Gary ordered food much like diapers and like
Speaker 4: baby strong. What you would call it that, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a bit strange of a name. At the baron Grill,
Speaker 4: they ordered food, but Robin a only a small bit
Speaker 4: of a salad. The waitress at the restaurant the scroud
Speaker 4: Robin is being woozy and potentially appearing severely intoxicated. She
Speaker 4: was wearing a dress and had her hair and makeup done.
Speaker 4: They left the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, big time. They left
Speaker 4: the restaurant after four pm. A photo was taken just
Speaker 4: before they left and the timestamp was four to twelve pm.
Speaker 4: Just two hours later, a little after six pm, Gary
Speaker 4: returned to the same restaurant. He tapped on the shutters
Speaker 4: and then went around the back of the restaurant where
Speaker 4: the kitchen was and he asked them to call for help.
Speaker 4: He appeared calm and said that he needed the police
Speaker 4: that Robin was not with him. Police arrived at the
Speaker 4: restaurant and spoke to Gary. They noticed he was sweating
Speaker 4: profusely at the time there was a scratch on his neck.
Speaker 4: He told the police that he went out snarkling with
Speaker 4: Robin and then he noticed the currents were getting strong.
Speaker 4: He tapped her on the leg, indicating they should swim
Speaker 4: back the shore. But before he reached the shore, he
Speaker 4: last sight of Robin, and then he said he ran
Speaker 4: to the restaurant to get help. So straight away, that's
Speaker 4: like all red flags for me.
Speaker 7: I'm like, it is like all these cases are like
Speaker 7: disturbing and wild because there are cases that are focused
Speaker 7: on and I'm sure this happens way more often than
Speaker 7: these famous cases of people that obviously had people that
Speaker 7: cared about them, but like looking at the images and
Speaker 7: like just like this one, she's like staring at the camera,
Speaker 7: and this sort of relas very like happy pose. It
Speaker 7: is like creepy and like disturbing to think that she
Speaker 7: is either no longer alive, she's probably dead somewhere buried
Speaker 7: in the ground, you know, or what's more likely is
Speaker 7: she's been used for her body for years and destroyed
Speaker 7: where you mentally break down and eventually have like some
Speaker 7: sort of Stockholm syndrome and you have to accept your fate.
Speaker 7: And the more persists for even years, the more your
Speaker 7: mind would just try to rationalize it the best it
Speaker 7: could and try to live. Like it's wow, what your
Speaker 7: mind will do. But this is why these things and
Speaker 7: when escially when we get the missing four one one
Speaker 7: and all that stuff. Cases of disappearances have always like
Speaker 7: creeped me out. You know, if you're if somebody finds
Speaker 7: a dead body, you know that they're dead, you can
Speaker 7: kind of come to you know, you can come to
Speaker 7: some sort of closure with that. But somebody that has
Speaker 7: like just disappeared off of the face of the earth,
Speaker 7: off the internet, off of especially nowadays, you know, it's freaky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like and again like this is another one
Speaker 4: where like apparently the police. The police took him out
Speaker 4: on a helicopter to look for and he pointed out
Speaker 4: the area where he last saw her. A huge search
Speaker 4: took place. More than sixty officials, FBI agents, Aruba ryot cops,
Speaker 4: volunteers searched the area along the coastline. They found nothing.
Speaker 4: No of her was ever found. As police questioned Gary
Speaker 4: further and examined the details in the area, they found
Speaker 4: some inconsistencies in the account he provided in that two
Speaker 4: hour window. According to Gary, the explanation was a simple one.
Speaker 4: They decided to go snorkeling and she drowned. He said
Speaker 4: that she had taken sleeping pills earlier that day, had
Speaker 4: two glasses of vodka at the hotel before they went
Speaker 4: to the bar. But there were a few things didn't
Speaker 4: make sense to anybody. Gary did not get back into
Speaker 4: the water. He didn't try and find or help Robin,
Speaker 4: even though he was a licensed scuba diver. He went
Speaker 4: to the restaurant to call for help. Instead. When he
Speaker 4: got to the restaurant, he had not hop on, was
Speaker 4: wearing sneakers and his two pay He did not appear
Speaker 4: to be in any urgency to get help when he
Speaker 4: reached the restaurant. Nobody saw Robin or Gary snorkeling that day.
Speaker 4: In fact, a man on the beach said they did
Speaker 4: not go into the water at all that afternoon. A
Speaker 4: man who was fishing that day said that he saw
Speaker 4: them walk along the reef at four twenty two pm,
Speaker 4: around ten minutes after they left the restaurant, but he
Speaker 4: said they did not get into the water, and they
Speaker 4: drove off and he never saw them return. The police
Speaker 4: obtained surveillance footage from the area. They said they found
Speaker 4: it difficult to identify Gary in the footage that they
Speaker 4: had access to, as he had different hair pieces on
Speaker 4: at different times. Surveillance video show Gary in his rental
Speaker 4: car parked at the back of the Barn restaurant. The
Speaker 4: TYOTOAV four had tinted windows, so no one else in
Speaker 4: the vehicle could be identified. He parked the car at
Speaker 4: the back of the parking lot twice. Blood was found
Speaker 4: on a rock behind the dive shop at the rum.
Speaker 4: The dive shop was around one hundred yards somewhere. Gary
Speaker 4: said they had went snorkeling. The car was cleaned when
Speaker 4: he returned it to the Star rental at the airport.
Speaker 4: Police were unable to obtain any evidence from it, but
Speaker 4: the rental agend said they didn't notice anything unusual. As
Speaker 4: police investigated further, a sinister picture began to emerge on
Speaker 4: a possible motive for murder. It was reported that the
Speaker 4: police obtained surveyal footage of a fight between both of them.
Speaker 4: According to reports, the video showed them engaged in a
Speaker 4: violent fight that resulted in Gary putting his hands around
Speaker 4: her throat and forcing her into the elevator at the
Speaker 4: hotel before she went missing. Prior to the trip, a
Speaker 4: couple of restraining orders had been obtained against Gary from
Speaker 4: previous relationships in the US. Police also discovered that an
Speaker 4: American Express travel policy for the sum of one point
Speaker 4: five million had been taken out on Robin, which Gary
Speaker 4: was named as the sole beneficiary. But the alarming part
Speaker 4: about that was just two days after she went missing,
Speaker 4: he had sought on several occasions to redeem it. He
Speaker 4: called four times in a row to try and redeem it,
Speaker 4: and the agent notified police and told them that he
Speaker 4: seemed excited like he was about to win a prize.
Speaker 4: A couple of days after she disappeared, he tried to
Speaker 4: leave Aruba and return back to the United States, but
Speaker 4: he was stopped and attained by local police. They found
Speaker 4: explicit photos on his phone of rob When he spent
Speaker 4: four months in prison in Aruba, he was arrested for
Speaker 4: suspicion of murder, manslaughter, kidnapping, and fraud. However, he was
Speaker 4: not charged a judge order has released due to insufficient evidence.
Speaker 4: When he was released, he returned to the US. Police
Speaker 4: today believe that Robin is dead, but today no trace
Speaker 4: of her has ever been found and nobody has been
Speaker 4: charged with the crime. That's wild when it's clearly like
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry, definitely him.
Speaker 7: Definitely part of me wonders if, like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: there's I'm sure this happens, but if there's people maybe
Speaker 7: like him that get paid from traffickers. You know, you
Speaker 7: live in Florida or whatever, and then you're some you
Speaker 7: influence women to take trips with you, and then he
Speaker 7: kind of like gives them over to these traffickers in
Speaker 7: certain places which he's visited. You know, when I went
Speaker 7: to Cuba when I was nineteen, US sketchy characters. We're
Speaker 7: working out resorts, a lot of fucking weird people and
Speaker 7: shady dude trying to sell you like fucking weird ass cigars,
Speaker 7: and you know, like I knew it.
Speaker 4: I always wonder about that, like what's what's the intention here?
Speaker 4: Because I used to think of it like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is just like dudes trying to peddle some bullshit to
Speaker 4: make some money. But now I feel like that there's
Speaker 4: a deeper level. It's like, Okay, what is this shit
Speaker 4: you're giving me? What's the intention here? Is it for
Speaker 4: me to be like all drugged up so you can
Speaker 4: like fucking rob me or something, or like you know,
Speaker 4: kidnap my fucking garfriend or some shit.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you stories on the Patreon sometime in a
Speaker 7: RAND episode if you remind me about Cuba, but once
Speaker 7: or I can tell is that we knew these Canadian
Speaker 7: dudes from like Montreal or something like that, and we
Speaker 7: were talking about a couple of times, like older dudes
Speaker 7: but funny and shit like that, and in their forties
Speaker 7: and we're like in our twenties. And they went off
Speaker 7: the resorts to get weed. They were promised ten grams
Speaker 7: of weed for one hundred dollars, which is like it
Speaker 7: it's a grand for Graham, but over there, obviously that's
Speaker 7: I'm sure what they would have charged. And then so
Speaker 7: they go down to Havana and meet up with some
Speaker 7: guy and then they said, don't open until you get
Speaker 7: back to your resort, like you don't open it until
Speaker 7: you get back to your hotel. Don't like, don't look
Speaker 7: at it or whatever. And he's like, it's in the bag.
Speaker 7: And then so they got back to the hotel and
Speaker 7: like they told us the whole story, and they're like,
Speaker 7: we fucking opened the bag and it was a towel
Speaker 7: wrapped in like grocery bags. And I'm like, I'm sure
Speaker 7: this happens all the time. I bought some cheap I
Speaker 7: bought some cigars on the beach, didn't know any better,
Speaker 7: and I couldn't take him on the plane because they
Speaker 7: were like opened already, and shit, so people are fucking sketchy.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go through this one quick, just because I
Speaker 7: find this one kind of interesting. This is sister Alena Christie.
Speaker 7: I just want to make sure I don't like, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna try to not mispronounce words. Uh Eileen, I oh,
Speaker 7: it's Eileen.
Speaker 2: Just I don't know.
Speaker 7: Things are spelled with ease and ship. It's it's like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, it doesn't seem like it should pronounce.
Speaker 7: I don't know. We we suck at pronouncing stuff on
Speaker 7: this show. Everyone should be used to it by now.
Speaker 7: I think it's is Eileen, Eileen, Eileen.
Speaker 4: Eileen right, Eileen.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't know how the fuck. I just think
Speaker 7: it's funny. I wish I don't know. I think that
Speaker 7: people in the audio will hear me listen to that
Speaker 7: thing where it's like, how do you pronounce this?
Speaker 4: Aileen? So?
Speaker 7: Sister Eileen Christie seventy two was a Roman Catholic nun
Speaker 7: and teacher of theology that's interesting, who left New New
Speaker 7: York in twenty sixteen for a European vacation. Along her way,
Speaker 7: she kept in contact with a nephew from home via email.
Speaker 7: Last time her nephew heard from Sister Christy that's fun name,
Speaker 7: Sister Christy, she informed him that she had checked into
Speaker 7: a hotel at Halstadt, Austria, a village near the Alps,
Speaker 7: after being reported missing. Authorities searched in the hostel. Most
Speaker 7: of her belongings, including her passport, her cell phone, and
Speaker 7: her wallet were all left behind. Her phone camera revealed
Speaker 7: images and video suggesting she was having a wonderful time.
Speaker 7: I have pictures of this, of this the only picture
Speaker 7: I could find of her. I don't think she was
Speaker 7: trafficked for sex, unless somebody wanted somebody to fold your
Speaker 7: laundry and put your clothes away, and you know.
Speaker 4: Rude? Is that rude?
Speaker 7: Because it no, it was just.
Speaker 4: Like she susposed us that. If she got traffics for
Speaker 4: that reason, then christ I don't even see who.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 7: A number of strange circumstances surrounding the nuns disappearance that
Speaker 7: failed to add up. One of the only missing items
Speaker 7: from her room was her swimsuit. This is why I
Speaker 7: want to bring this up, suggesting she may have drowned
Speaker 7: while taking a swim. Yet sister Christy frequently swam during
Speaker 7: her travel. She was a great swimmer, which she you know,
Speaker 7: frequently took to this area Austria over many years. Her
Speaker 7: familiarity and experience with the village makes her more likely
Speaker 7: she was taken. Yet no major suspects have arrived or risen.
Speaker 7: But I just want to bring it out because part
Speaker 7: of me thinks who knows what could happen, you know,
Speaker 7: while you're swimming. Her swimsuit was the only thing missing,
Speaker 7: which means she was wearing it, which means like, but
Speaker 7: who's trafficking some seventy two year old nun Like? What
Speaker 7: would be the purpose in you know, overpowering her and
Speaker 7: all the effort it would take to kidnap her. I
Speaker 7: feel like she drowned, and that's even a creepy thing
Speaker 7: of like everyone thinks they're trafficked, and like something really
Speaker 7: bad happened to them, and then it's just like they
Speaker 7: just drowned, something like a big wave went over and.
Speaker 4: Which is equally as shit and scary in a way.
Speaker 7: That is, her drowning is peaceful. Would you rather burn
Speaker 7: to death in a building, say in Maui from a
Speaker 7: direct energy weapon? I know some people don't think that's
Speaker 7: the case, but very strange circumstances, carting trees were not
Speaker 7: burnt down. But this will be weeks out after hopefully
Speaker 7: they're we're building the smart city after this, so be prepared.
Speaker 7: But would you rather burn in a fire like Freddy
Speaker 7: Krueger in some boiler room or drowned?
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess drowned.
Speaker 6: But.
Speaker 7: I sure used like lose oxygen slow. And then I've
Speaker 7: also heard his terrifying. Some people say it's peaceful, some
Speaker 7: people say it's terrifying. But how would we know unless
Speaker 7: you actually died drowning, you know, but the people that
Speaker 7: actually passed out maybe got saved, they could tell you.
Speaker 7: We should get some more. Has anyone drowned? Email me
Speaker 7: at strangerpodcast at gmail dot com. Oh, also, I have
Speaker 7: to we have to do an episode about how I
Speaker 7: got an email uh from a guy that knew wild
Speaker 7: Bill quite well and that wild Bill blamed him for stuff,
Speaker 7: which will do a Patreon episode or even just a
Speaker 7: ran episode for the main show, so I can explain this.
Speaker 7: But as we said on later episodes, we thought that
Speaker 7: he was probably stringing us along and telling us bullshit.
Speaker 7: Oh he was. He definitely was why I figured that
Speaker 7: I had delete him from everything and block him so
Speaker 7: he wouldn't try to contact me or any of the people.
Speaker 4: Instagram and stuff. Somehow, I'm not sure how he found.
Speaker 7: That scary stuff, So we'll talk about that on a
Speaker 7: episode for either the main shore Patreon. I got I
Speaker 7: think two or three more small ones. Do you want
Speaker 7: me to take on one more. What you want? I
Speaker 7: have too much, so let's get into this one. It's
Speaker 7: not too long. This is an interesting one. Poor John Halford,
Speaker 7: a well liked guy sixty three, He owned and operate
Speaker 7: a popularity popular book and gift shop in England. In
Speaker 7: March of twenty eleven, uh, just before he and his
Speaker 7: wife were celebrating their twenty five years of marriage, he
Speaker 7: went along on a cruise to Egypt. That actually sounds
Speaker 7: pretty fun. Eager to fulfill his lifelong dream before arthritis
Speaker 7: made it impossible. I I already have carporal tannel. Man,
Speaker 7: I don't want arthritis. My grandma about authorize. What does
Speaker 7: that mean that you have? Like you just like live
Speaker 7: like this, Like you can't move your arms, legs or anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like your fingers and stuff, like one of my
Speaker 4: grandparents and like her fingers or.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my grandma's fingers that died.
Speaker 4: Well, I think I have. So I broke this Tom
Speaker 4: doing jiujitsu, and I'm pretty show I either fractured or
Speaker 4: broke the other Tom. And I have Carlton and both
Speaker 4: of them, so I've got a couple of cool I
Speaker 4: can't wait to have fucking me too. We'll do it.
Speaker 7: Together while trying to podcast. Like, we'll have AI technology
Speaker 7: by then that could like control the host show by
Speaker 7: voice commands. Uh. So yeah, he's going like before Arthur Rise,
Speaker 7: I guess took over his hands and off he went.
Speaker 7: He had an amazing time, all while texting back home
Speaker 7: about his adventures and taking photos and videos of the sites.
Speaker 7: On one night before the ship docked, Harold sent his
Speaker 7: Hallford sent his wife a text regarding his flight information,
Speaker 7: playing to me about the airport, airport John hall hall
Speaker 7: for it was practically on her way. Oh. Hallford's wife
Speaker 7: was playing She's on her way. The next day, uh,
Speaker 7: when she got a call from her husband that he
Speaker 7: had vanished from the cruise ship. Another person that just
Speaker 7: vanished out of nowhere from a cruise ship. She suspects
Speaker 7: that John fell from the ship, and a theory is
Speaker 7: supported by the fact that he was seen drinking cocktails
Speaker 7: near midnight. So he's already been drinking all night. Then
Speaker 7: you're having more cocktails. If intox kid too close to
Speaker 7: the ledge, he might have just had a bit of
Speaker 7: bad luck. And if that is the case, if that,
Speaker 7: if that happens more often than what we think it does,
Speaker 7: that's wild that that that you can just be drunk
Speaker 7: and just be like looking at the side of the
Speaker 7: thing and then you just fall off. Like that's kind
Speaker 7: of frightening. We're not going ever on a cruise ship
Speaker 7: because I don't want to fall off. Okay a little.
Speaker 4: Now, the other side of that is, if you dig
Speaker 4: a little bit more into his story, Yeah, so he
Speaker 4: some people might wonder why, if he's a married man
Speaker 4: at that age, why he's taken a trip to Egypt
Speaker 4: on his own.
Speaker 7: He actually he's on his own right, which is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so apparently he decided to take the trip alone.
Speaker 4: He spent six pounds taking the trip after their marriage
Speaker 4: came into severe difficulties.
Speaker 7: Did he commits sue? Did he want alive himself? And
Speaker 7: then he's an old weird right, because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they said that, like, you know, he drank
Speaker 4: cocktails and shit. But then his wife was like, I
Speaker 4: only ever knew John to drink beer and stuff like
Speaker 4: that for the entire time.
Speaker 7: I've ever heard and somebody saw him.
Speaker 4: He's like forty years at that.
Speaker 7: So if that's true, they're just mistaking him from it
Speaker 7: for another old man. Could be possible because he looks
Speaker 7: like your average white old man not gonna lie with suspenders.
Speaker 4: Or maybe you know who knows. Maybe he was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, let me try some cocktails before I
Speaker 4: show myself off this ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, try something delicious, you know, because like even as
Speaker 7: I get older, like beer is not my thing anymore.
Speaker 7: I still love drinking beer, but you know it's I'd
Speaker 7: rather sound a little more tasty though, also and give
Speaker 7: me kind of a little buzzed. But I think there's probably,
Speaker 7: you know, a there is a more evidence. I feel
Speaker 7: like to say that he probably their marriage got rocky.
Speaker 7: Maybe they're fighting all the time. She was threatening of
Speaker 7: leaving him. He is an older dude. He's sixty three,
Speaker 7: he looks like he's seventy five, you know. And then
Speaker 7: he's just like fuck it and then like goes on
Speaker 7: his dream vacation and then commits suicide there or whatever. Right,
Speaker 7: I'll show that bitch, like, yeah.
Speaker 4: Like it's weird because, like his wife was quoted as saying,
Speaker 4: Ruth Halford described her husband John like the following he
Speaker 4: was happy, certainly not depressed, enjoying his cruise and meeting people,
Speaker 4: but definitely looking forward to getting home again to be
Speaker 4: with me. And the children. Although we had some difficulties,
Speaker 4: it wasn't anything that was super notable. The last known
Speaker 4: facts about mister Halford indicate that he was last seen
Speaker 4: on board the cruise ship at eleven forty five pm
Speaker 4: the night before. He disappeared drinking cocktails in the bar
Speaker 4: when the ship was approaching its final port, but when
Speaker 4: the ship reached the port and the passengers were disembarking
Speaker 4: at seven am, there was no trace of him.
Speaker 7: I was bizarre. Maybe he just had enough, you know,
Speaker 7: maybe he's like a fuck I hate these kids is
Speaker 7: they're ungrateful brats. My wife won't stuck my wiener anymore.
Speaker 7: I'm done. I go to Egypt and I'm gonna drink
Speaker 7: cocktails and I'm gonna suck a guy's dick and then.
Speaker 4: I'm off the away. To me, that's fucking spook. It
Speaker 4: is bizarre Egypt. I would I would love to go
Speaker 4: to Egypt. That's on the book of list for me.
Speaker 4: But to spooky.
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go, and we'll go to the same chamber
Speaker 7: that aleister Crowley went and we'll invoke.
Speaker 4: The demon. If I go, I'm dressing like fucking Brendan
Speaker 4: Frasier as Rick O'Connor.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'll be that other guy that's the messed up.
Speaker 7: I'd be like, you're on the wrong side. I got
Speaker 7: all the horses. Any fucking I'll dress up like him.
Speaker 7: I'll like, I'll with that little fucking crazy to get one.
Speaker 7: It is bizarre and it is. His case is just
Speaker 7: like I don't know a lot of I think that
Speaker 7: I think that he committed suicide. There's a that's the
Speaker 7: nobody's taken him unless somehow he like some happened. Who knows, right,
Speaker 7: he's out and he's doing something. He has a heart attack,
Speaker 7: maybe they can't identify him anything like that, right, all right,
Speaker 7: bringing it bringing in there, bro.
Speaker 4: I guess I was going to strugg here it differently
Speaker 4: and do this one right at the end. But I
Speaker 4: think it kind of ties in with this because it happened,
Speaker 4: like I think within like two or three weeks. I've
Speaker 4: actually and I didn't know you were doing this guy,
Speaker 4: But this case also happened at the same time, which
Speaker 4: is yeah, around the same time the case of Rebecca.
Speaker 4: I don't know, how do you pronounce her surname chryam oh,
Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about?
Speaker 7: Or im quorum Quoreum. Yeah, oh nice, I had that
Speaker 7: written down, So yeah, I have two more left, sick
Speaker 7: three if you count my little small Asian one that's
Speaker 7: not in Asian penis or anything of that.
Speaker 4: On March twenty second, twenty eleven, while working aboard the
Speaker 4: Disney Wanderer cruise ship off the coast of Mexico, twenty
Speaker 4: four year old Rebecca suddenly disappeared. To this day, her
Speaker 4: case remains unsolved, so that's far from the only one.
Speaker 4: Since the nineteen eighties, the cruise industry has enjoyed steady
Speaker 4: growth in popularity and revenue. Massive floating, self sufficient cities
Speaker 4: headed towards exotic destinations have been a huge draw for
Speaker 4: vacationers for several decades now, with no signs of the
Speaker 4: draw waning. However, such a world of leisure and luxury
Speaker 4: is not without its shady underbelly. Since two thousand, there
Speaker 4: have been three hundred and tardine documented cases of people
Speaker 4: going missing from cruise ships. No since two thousand. That's
Speaker 4: only that's only properly now fully fleshed out like documented cases.
Speaker 4: There's much more than that, and of those ones, less
Speaker 4: than ten percent have been resolved in any way and
Speaker 4: because cruise lines are not legally required to make public
Speaker 4: every case of a person who goes missing or goes overboard,
Speaker 4: it is estimated by most of the industry that only
Speaker 4: around fifteen percent of such cases are actually documented and
Speaker 4: become the media.
Speaker 7: Anyway, there's like thousands of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically that's scary. I'm not going to question the
Speaker 4: case of Rebecca.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, right, because I really want to. But
Speaker 7: then it looks nice even.
Speaker 4: And like if shit starts to happen to you, like
Speaker 4: because I even think right even as a as a dude,
Speaker 4: and I don't even mean about like getting sex trafficked
Speaker 4: or anything. But like, let's say you're on a cruise
Speaker 4: ship and there's like, I don't know, a group of
Speaker 4: like fucking weird, like creepy aggressive. Let's say let's say
Speaker 4: both of you guys decide, oh, you know we're gonna
Speaker 4: do We're gonna take a cruise for a honeymoon. And
Speaker 4: you're having a good time and there's all like you
Speaker 4: get this group of like creepy, fucking like Russians, Dominican
Speaker 4: dudes or fucking weird dudes whatever, and they're like coming
Speaker 4: on to your new wife and you're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: we're all good fuck off, like there's nothing stopping you
Speaker 4: from getting fucked up there and then are being taken.
Speaker 7: And that's why I'm saying I was creepy these Russian dudes.
Speaker 7: I end up grabbing my buddy's balls and then like
Speaker 7: squeezing they what they said to him. So we keep
Speaker 7: seeing the Russian guys. There's three of them, and I
Speaker 7: think they were definitely like gaying into some weird ship
Speaker 7: and they kept like they'd be like you crazy Canadians,
Speaker 7: and I wear a bandana and shit because I'm a
Speaker 7: fucking wanna be thug. And then so they would like
Speaker 7: rub the top of my fucking head and shit and
Speaker 7: like as they walk by, and they would just do
Speaker 7: creepy shit because we were like all looked fairly young.
Speaker 7: We were like nineteen twenty. And then when my buddy
Speaker 7: is like this the funniest dude ever, He's like, I'll
Speaker 7: post some pictures from Cuba and I was gonna do
Speaker 7: it to the strange brew account show like a younger
Speaker 7: version of me throughout the years, and they, Uh, my
Speaker 7: buddy Mike was like this tall, like gangly kind of
Speaker 7: fucking ginger dude, and they came up behind him and
Speaker 7: they were like, you're not that good looking, but you
Speaker 7: have beautiful balls because he's been wearing jim shorts the
Speaker 7: whole time, the whole fucking vacation. Very funny though. He
Speaker 7: would one day be wearing red jim shorts with a
Speaker 7: red shirt and a red hat like a baseball cap.
Speaker 7: Then the next day would be a yellow jim shorts,
Speaker 7: yellow shirt, and yeah, I don't know how were it
Speaker 7: coordinated all these outfits. Every day he would be in
Speaker 7: these pure blue green outfits. I don't know where he
Speaker 7: got all this from, but every day it'd be a
Speaker 7: different color. And then so he's always wearing basketball shirts,
Speaker 7: so they must have somehow noticed his balls somehow, And
Speaker 7: then the guy like came up to him and said
Speaker 7: that into his ear. We're all drunk on the last
Speaker 7: night and this is I tell this on my shotow
Speaker 7: of People episode, and everyone's like, your buddy's down. I
Speaker 7: turn around, Mike's on the ground grabbing his balls, and
Speaker 7: he's like the fucking rushing He's trying to point everyone's drunk.
Speaker 7: And then me and my cousin were getting mad, and
Speaker 7: this whole thing happened. I threw a fucking drink on
Speaker 7: a guy that was trying to help me. He's like,
Speaker 7: what's going on? And I was like, fuck you, I
Speaker 7: threw my fucking strawberry dacker yet him.
Speaker 4: But you see see what I mean? Quickly, I feel
Speaker 4: like that ship like turns weird, like hostile. For example,
Speaker 4: like there's a case of dudes basically getting abducted for
Speaker 4: like different reasons. But it just goes to show how
Speaker 4: quickly like maybe is a guy you might think, you.
Speaker 7: Know, I'll be funny organs, they want your healthy heart
Speaker 7: or yeah.
Speaker 4: Like let's say you're just there with your girl, like
Speaker 4: and shit gets weird and you step up and go na,
Speaker 4: na happening. But you've got a group of guys now
Speaker 4: and you're on this cruise ship and you don't really
Speaker 4: know what's going on, and everyone's speaking in different language,
Speaker 4: and you're like, who the fuck is Like, who's in
Speaker 4: on this? Who's fucking how do I get off this shit?
Speaker 7: Frightening? I hope it scares a lot of people, like
Speaker 7: it is free.
Speaker 4: Okay, So, the the case of Rebecca was one of
Speaker 4: the few cases that did go public. Nevertheless, the truth
Speaker 4: about what happened to her aboard the Disney Wonder Disneys
Speaker 4: unknown I know, which is even more wild. I think,
Speaker 4: I know, like Disney or into some shady ship. But
Speaker 4: you would think like that there's kids know of those ships?
Speaker 4: How does that happen? Let's see, at the time of
Speaker 4: her disappearance, she was a twenty four year old Chester,
Speaker 4: England native who worked with children aboard the Disney cruise ships.
Speaker 4: So there's another thing.
Speaker 7: She's a fucking Maxwell was in Disney World in the eighties,
Speaker 7: like speeches and shit.
Speaker 4: That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, look at that. That doesn't
Speaker 4: not surprise me. So they were en route to Mexico
Speaker 4: from Los Angeles. She was last seen on CCTV footage
Speaker 4: at five forty five am in the crew lounge, talking
Speaker 4: on an internal phone line, wearing men's clothing and acting
Speaker 4: visibly distressed.
Speaker 7: Is that this photo? That's bizarre.
Speaker 4: Yeah. After hanging up the phone, she was neither seen
Speaker 4: nor heard from ever again. When she failed to report
Speaker 4: to her nine am shift, Disney staff were alerted the
Speaker 4: search the ship for her, but to no avail. The
Speaker 4: United States Coastguard and Mexican Navy were then contacted to
Speaker 4: perform a search of the surrounding ocean, but also came
Speaker 4: up short to any clues. According to Rebecca's dad, Disney
Speaker 4: disregarded standard operating procedures and didn't turn the ship around
Speaker 4: to look for his daughter. Additionally, he states that the
Speaker 4: Navy and Coastguards were given incorrect coordinates and likely searched
Speaker 4: the wrong area of the sea. Under the Flags of
Speaker 4: Convenience system, jurisdiction of the case fell on the country
Speaker 4: of the ship's registration, which in this case was the
Speaker 4: tax haven of the Bahamas. Three days after her disappearance,
Speaker 4: Disney contacted the Royal Bahama Police Force to conduct an investigation.
Speaker 4: They responded by assigning one detective to the case, and
Speaker 4: he was flown out by Disney via private jet to
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. He spent one day aboard the Wonder once
Speaker 4: it returned to port, interviewing six of nine hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty employees and zero of the two thousand plus passengers.
Speaker 4: After several days of stalled communications, Disney flew out Rebecca's
Speaker 4: parents to meet with the detective and the ship's captain
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles in a matter of in a matter
Speaker 4: of their missing daughter, The family was treated Disney's style.
Speaker 4: According to her mother, everything was staged by Disney. We
Speaker 4: were taken in a car with blacked out windows. On
Speaker 4: the boat, we were taken onto the boat's back entrance
Speaker 4: as passengers disembarked from the front. They took us to
Speaker 4: a room where they played CCTV footage of Rebecca, where
Speaker 4: she appears to be fine on board, The ship's captain
Speaker 4: offered the family his conclusion as to the fate of
Speaker 4: their daughter. He explained that it was likely that she
Speaker 4: had been swept off of deck five by a rogue wave.
Speaker 4: Mike and Ahm were then shown Deck five, a crew
Speaker 4: swimming pool area directly in front of the ship's bridge
Speaker 4: that was guarded by walls reaching over six and a
Speaker 4: half feet tall. They were then taken to the crew
Speaker 4: quarters and Rebecca's cabin, where they were shown a sandal
Speaker 4: that allegedly belonged to her and was recovered on deck five.
Speaker 7: That does not add up. That is like creepy. That's
Speaker 7: fucking bizarre.
Speaker 4: It does sound really Disney. It gets worse.
Speaker 7: I think that's why I just want to say that, like, Okay,
Speaker 7: there's connections to Epstein and Disney and what the Disney
Speaker 7: like Castle, looks like on the cover, looks like Epstein's Island,
Speaker 7: same with Ellen DeGeneres's set. All these things that are
Speaker 7: like weird coincidences. And if you think about it, if
Speaker 7: they wanted to just like make this underground sex ring
Speaker 7: using Disney, because we know Disney is shady, Walt Disney
Speaker 7: was a very shady character, the whole company is shady.
Speaker 7: Why wouldn't they be like certain countries use that boat
Speaker 7: or that, you know, that image of Disney in traffic,
Speaker 7: all sorts of people children specifically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and like this evidently, and you'll see
Speaker 4: in a second that it's in my opinion, it's pretty
Speaker 4: easy for them to just like make a go away.
Speaker 4: And the following day they watched from the shore as
Speaker 4: the Disney Wander left board to set sail on its
Speaker 4: next cruise. Despite the case being an ongoing investigation, Disney
Speaker 4: considered the breaking matter to be put to rest and
Speaker 4: laid flowers on the side of deck five and had
Speaker 4: a small ceremony attended by some of the ship's crew.
Speaker 4: Unsatisfied with Disney's account of their daughter's disappearance, they hired
Speaker 4: a private investigator, Roy Ram, a former specialist of Scotland
Speaker 4: Yard and sought the aid of Chester MP Chris Matthieson
Speaker 4: and former Deputy Prime Minister Lord Prescott. What they inert
Speaker 4: did outside the official investigation has disturbing implications as to
Speaker 4: the possible fate of Rebecca. Disney has always maintained that
Speaker 4: it was a rogue wave that swept her off Deck
Speaker 4: five sometime between the hours of six and nine am. However,
Speaker 4: there are numerous inconsistencies with this account. One is that
Speaker 4: the weather and ocean conditions near to where the ship
Speaker 4: was located do not show any indication of any stormy weather,
Speaker 4: much less rogue waves. It would have needed to be
Speaker 4: over one hundred feet high to sweep a person off
Speaker 4: that deck, and above six foot walls that surrounded us.
Speaker 4: The primary piece of physical evidence in her disappearance was
Speaker 4: the video of her talking on an internal phone line
Speaker 4: at the time of her last known siding. In his investigation,
Speaker 4: the private detective discovered that the CCTV footage had been
Speaker 4: cropped to hide the timestamp and the location. According to Disney,
Speaker 4: the footage was shot inside deck five, where she was
Speaker 4: allegedly swept overboard. After viewing the undoctored copy of the footage,
Speaker 4: the investigator learned that it was actually shot on deck one,
Speaker 4: was not close to the vicinity of her alleged accidental debt.
Speaker 4: Copies of this footage have been denied to the family repeatedly.
Speaker 4: Another notable piece of evidence that Disney gave was the
Speaker 4: sandal that was allegedly recovered. However, this sandal had the
Speaker 4: name and cabin number of another individual altogether, but the
Speaker 4: family and crew member insisted that the sandal were both
Speaker 4: the wrong side and not in the style of Rebecca
Speaker 4: at all. A few months after a disappearance, investigative journalist
Speaker 4: John Ronson of The Guardian sailed aboard The Wonder in
Speaker 4: an attempt to make sense of the incident. In talking
Speaker 4: with crew members, he uncovered suspicious and even sinister intentions
Speaker 4: behind Disney's explanation. One crew member disclosed, look, all I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say is Disney knows exactly what happened that phone
Speaker 4: call she had. It was taped. Everything here is taped.
Speaker 4: Their's CCTV everywhere, and I mean everywhere. Disney have the tape.
Speaker 4: When asked about Rebecca, another crew member replied, I don't
Speaker 4: know anything about it. It didn't happen you know. That's
Speaker 4: the answer that I've been told to give. Rebecca's family
Speaker 4: and friends from England described her as happy, go looking, energetic.
Speaker 4: Working for Disney would require one to be of an
Speaker 4: overall sunny disposition, or Disney wouldn't hire you if you
Speaker 4: weren't that sort of person. However, other crew members and
Speaker 4: close friends of Rebecca on the ship paint a more
Speaker 4: nuanced version of her character than her parents in the media.
Speaker 4: When asked about her, one crew member described her as
Speaker 4: a lovely girl with severe underlying sadness. In twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: Tracy Medley Rebecca's girlfriend and co worker. She don't know
Speaker 4: what that means. Girlfriend is in like she's a Lesbie,
Speaker 4: honest and co worker board the Wonder Broker silence on
Speaker 4: the events she claims. That night, Hern Rebecca engaged in
Speaker 4: a treesome with a male boyfriend. According to her, Rebecca
Speaker 4: had been distraught over their fiery and passionate relationship in
Speaker 4: the weeks prior. The shock of her sharing her lover
Speaker 4: with a male friend or perhaps sexually vying for her attention,
Speaker 4: might have been enough to swing Rebecca's usual sonny mood
Speaker 4: into a state of despair. She believes that Rebecca wanted
Speaker 4: off the ship and her life and climbed over the
Speaker 4: six foot railings to jump. Friends and family in England
Speaker 4: have vigorously denied that Rebecca took her own life. According
Speaker 4: to accounts of crew members, friend's family, members of law enforcement,
Speaker 4: her case was a botched investigation, with only six officially
Speaker 4: recorded interviews, withheld evidence and no forensic investigation. It is
Speaker 4: objectively hard to be satisfied with the level of police
Speaker 4: were conducted. Good friend of one of the last people
Speaker 4: aboard the ship to see Rebecca alive, offered his opinion
Speaker 4: to the BBC and stated I was never spoken to
Speaker 4: by any secure y or police at all. To call
Speaker 4: this an investigation would be an insult. In twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: the private investigator uncovered a ripped pair of shorts with
Speaker 4: Rebecca's remaining personal effects from her cabin. He and other
Speaker 4: law enforcement believed this point of the signs of a struggle,
Speaker 4: perhaps even sexual assault. Months after her disappearance, the family
Speaker 4: noticed that there had been activity in her bank account,
Speaker 4: well has changed passwords on her Facebook. According to MP Matheson,
Speaker 4: I believe there is sufficient evidence to indicate a crime.
Speaker 4: Mayo Weile taking place more than seven years later. Friends
Speaker 4: of how meters to the surgeon for answers to the
Speaker 4: same nagging questions. Although this case has gone largely cold
Speaker 4: closure and answers search. That's crazysnars near wild. They're just
Speaker 4: like that just goes to.
Speaker 7: Show you, right, how say like how say that she
Speaker 7: did commit suicide? She had her lived herself?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: Like say that happened, right, the Disney would want to
Speaker 7: cover it up. A Disney employee killed themselves, right, they'd
Speaker 7: want to they'd want to cover that up. And that
Speaker 7: is just like the surface level, a tip of the
Speaker 7: iceberg what it could have been. Or they do this
Speaker 7: more often than people want to acknowledge. And then they
Speaker 7: just set it up like a movie and make it
Speaker 7: all look real, but it's actually fake and like leading
Speaker 7: you away from the true story of what actually happened.
Speaker 7: But part of me does think that she could have
Speaker 7: got you know, just fell in love and you know,
Speaker 7: and maybe maybe it was in factory with somebody and
Speaker 7: then some shit happened, like they said, like a three
Speaker 7: someome type of thing, because if you had people that
Speaker 7: were actually working with her and getting to know her,
Speaker 7: and then she just was like got an emotional state,
Speaker 7: was drunk, and then even was like thinking about it
Speaker 7: and then even fell in and then Disney had the
Speaker 7: because they have the footage, they definitely do Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ye see. I think that's that's kind of what what
Speaker 4: like rubs me up the wrong way. More than that
Speaker 4: is like they've obviously got some sort of a like
Speaker 4: contingency plan for this stuff, because to me, that doesn't
Speaker 4: sound like something that they just winged at a moment's notice.
Speaker 4: That was all like, okay, so if this happens, we
Speaker 4: just say that we don't have any footage of anything.
Speaker 4: We don't record phone calls. We'll just like crop the
Speaker 4: footage we do have and it was somewhere else.
Speaker 7: It's just wild and story. I don't trust the story
Speaker 7: at all. I don't trust Disney. I think Disney is
Speaker 7: a corrupt, creepy organization that has his hands and everything
Speaker 7: and uh including I think child trafficking in my opinion,
Speaker 7: and grooming and influencing kids. So I wouldn't put it
Speaker 7: past them to uh do something really shady like I
Speaker 7: either had a suicide or somebody going missing where they
Speaker 7: knew what happened to her, you know. I Yeah, fuck Disney.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, and it's wild as well, Like there was
Speaker 4: over three thousand people on that ship and they've done
Speaker 4: six interviews.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was really weird. So I have a couple more,
Speaker 7: but maybe we'll cut it a little short because we
Speaker 7: talked a little bit more than we thought. These are
Speaker 7: little cases, like essentially the ones I was going to
Speaker 7: talk about was there was a famous comic book artist
Speaker 7: that disappeared on a Caribbean dive, Norman Uh Norman Lee.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was a comic book like creator. He did
Speaker 7: stuff for like X Men and the Avengers, and yeah,
Speaker 7: he just went missing and uh in a vacation the
Speaker 7: Caribbean and they went for like a snorkeling excursion and
Speaker 7: he just never came back, which is scary in general,
Speaker 7: Like they could the currents maybe were too powerful, and
Speaker 7: they couldn't even locate his body because while they that
Speaker 7: kind of went wrong when they want, like they wound
Speaker 7: up getting like separated and then he was just gone.
Speaker 7: He was separated from other participants of this snorkeling endeavored
Speaker 7: this adventure and uh, yeah he was gone forever. They
Speaker 7: don't know where his body is scary, see that, Like
Speaker 7: I don't know. Every time I hear stories like this,
Speaker 7: I know, and then also I just don't want to
Speaker 7: go anywhere. I just want to mention this one because
Speaker 7: they're names are Hugh p h A M. Hugh Fam,
Speaker 7: and Hugh Tran. So they are I think Chinese, and
Speaker 7: their names match Hugh Fan and Hugh Tran. They brought
Speaker 7: they had the first the same first name in a
Speaker 7: rhyming last name. And they went missing on a cardival cruise. Uh,
Speaker 7: and they're the other letters their shoes and they like
Speaker 7: they're they were with their daughter and their granddaughter, and
Speaker 7: they think that they committed suicide, but they don't necessarily know.
Speaker 7: It's just speculated. Uh. Their son, Michael Fame does not
Speaker 7: buy it. I said they were happy and planning a
Speaker 7: trip to the Vietnam to see relatives. Oh so they're Vietnamese.
Speaker 7: They're I'm not I'm not making fun of their names.
Speaker 7: It's just like kind of it's kind of cute actually
Speaker 7: that their names like literally match.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 7: I only found one picture of them on the entire internet,
Speaker 7: and this is it cute Vietnamese cup. Well, you know,
Speaker 7: like they it seemed fairly happy, but maybe they're like,
Speaker 7: let's do it together and they hold hands and they
Speaker 7: jump off the cruise.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Do you know what's weird actually about that Norman Lee
Speaker 4: case because it seems pretty clear cut about like, you know,
Speaker 4: he just missing and that was it. He's just drowned
Speaker 4: or just was swept away or whatever. Was the fact
Speaker 4: that the FBI had gotten involved in that case and
Speaker 4: they took over from the Royal Cayman Islands Police and
Speaker 4: they are offering a ten thousand dollars award And there's
Speaker 4: actually a poster that they have, like you know, on
Speaker 4: their website and whatever, and it's a ten thousand dollars
Speaker 4: award for information leading to the recovery of Norman Lee
Speaker 4: and or the identification which leads to the conviction of
Speaker 4: those involved in his disappearance.
Speaker 7: Weird, why would he be taken to y.
Speaker 4: And like his family apparently have been on a big
Speaker 4: thing about like they haven't shared much with the family
Speaker 4: about why. But the FBI don't get involved in anything
Speaker 4: unless they're like there's grounds too, like they'll try and
Speaker 4: be like, nothing to do with us, there's no crime
Speaker 4: to investigate, So we're not getting involved in someone drowning
Speaker 4: that is you know, Yeah, but like there's been no
Speaker 4: like official apparently, like they've been contacted several times and
Speaker 4: they said that they won't comment on an open investigation.
Speaker 7: And it's still even when I was reading on it,
Speaker 7: I kind of looked him up and like some of
Speaker 7: his images to show while we were like kind of
Speaker 7: talking about it. There's him like signing comic books, and
Speaker 7: it's kind of weird, like because I didn't see I
Speaker 7: saw some stuff. I think I slightly on that, but
Speaker 7: like most of the things was to go you like
Speaker 7: it was disappeared in a snorkeling accident.
Speaker 4: It's good and sounds bad right straight away. I was
Speaker 4: like thinking, I wonder like did he have some like
Speaker 4: pretty good like life insurance policy or something. His wife
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm fucking sicky.
Speaker 7: I think I was gonna kill it now, sick. Are
Speaker 7: you making those kids lots of money? Yeah?
Speaker 4: O yo?
Speaker 7: Or he was doing fairly well. I don't know his
Speaker 7: networth it was or anything like that, but maybe making
Speaker 7: some decent money creating comic books and signing and doing
Speaker 7: all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Who knows.
Speaker 7: Bizarre, Uh, you had one more, did you not? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Britney Drexel, all right, get to her, and then I'll
Speaker 7: end it on one that is just bizarre and kind
Speaker 7: of like just it's a very strange case. It's not
Speaker 7: that long, so because like like always for the fans
Speaker 7: to understand, you know, I'll cut this from the audio,
Speaker 7: but for the video, we're always like we're going to
Speaker 7: do an hour and a half and it's like two
Speaker 7: hours in so it's nothing new. That's get to Britney Drexel.
Speaker 4: And Okay, so Britney Drexel. On the night of April
Speaker 4: twenty fifth and nine, seventeen year old Britney left a
Speaker 4: hotel in Martle Beach, Carolina, where she had been staying
Speaker 4: owns to her parents. Same, yeah, that would have been
Speaker 4: like everything I would yeah, yeah, she So she had
Speaker 4: been staying there with her friends, unbeknownst to her parents
Speaker 4: during spring break. Now straight away, right, and I'm not
Speaker 4: I'm not knocking her parents running like that, but that's
Speaker 4: like massive red flags for me that like she was
Speaker 4: able to travel to South Carolina and her parents had
Speaker 4: no idea.
Speaker 7: That's really weird. How did you not know? And where
Speaker 7: is she from?
Speaker 4: That this? Where is she from? Originally? That's a good question.
Speaker 7: Good time, all the audio, gets got the video, you
Speaker 7: guys get it New York Rochester and she got there where.
Speaker 4: Pretty far, like I think she had told her parents, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so they She had asked several times could she go,
Speaker 4: and her mother refused since she didn't know any of
Speaker 4: the other teenagers well enough and there was no accompanying
Speaker 4: adults on the trip. She also had a premonition that
Speaker 4: something would something bad will happen to her daughter. This
Speaker 4: led to arguments between the two for several days. Then
Speaker 4: Brittany asked if she could go to a friend's house
Speaker 4: for a day or two to calm down, to which
Speaker 4: Dawn agreed that they. Drexel left for South Carolina with
Speaker 4: the other students without telling her mother, which I just
Speaker 4: thought straight away to me, that was.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 4: She walked to another hotel nearby, sent a text to
Speaker 4: her boyfriend letting him know she was head back to
Speaker 4: her room, and she was never heard from again. That night,
Speaker 4: around eight pm, she left her friends at the Bar
Speaker 4: Harbor Hotel Beachfront to walk one point five miles south
Speaker 4: down Ocean South Ocean Boulevard to visit a longtime friend
Speaker 4: who was staying at the Blue Water Resort. Security cameras
Speaker 4: at the resort showed her arriving. She was carrying a
Speaker 4: beige purse and wearing black and white tank top flip
Speaker 4: flops and shorts. It captured her leaving around forty five
Speaker 4: minutes later. At eight forty five pm, She was texting
Speaker 4: her boyfriend, who had stayed in the Rochester area because
Speaker 4: of work commitments. They had been texting back and forth,
Speaker 4: but around nine point fifteen her text has suddenly stopped,
Speaker 4: and he began calling her friends in Myrtle Beach to
Speaker 4: see if they knew where she was or what had
Speaker 4: happened and why she wasn't answering. When that failed, he
Speaker 4: called her mother, Dawn, who had not known her daughter
Speaker 4: was in Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, what do you think your daughter is?
Speaker 7: Like this is the issue. She could have probably survived,
Speaker 7: And it's sad because even look at some of these images,
Speaker 7: she just looks like, you know, someone I could have known,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Like they all kind of
Speaker 7: do actually, like there's people that you would know in
Speaker 7: your own life, and it's just kind of it's it's
Speaker 7: bizarre looking at photos of some of these people and
Speaker 7: and just picturing that they're just gone. Nobody knows where
Speaker 7: they are, like no one in their own life, and
Speaker 7: they could either be dead or like I said, or
Speaker 7: just someone's personal object. Is fucking fright.
Speaker 4: It's just scary. Martle Beach police began looking for her
Speaker 4: the following morning. They located the security camera footage from
Speaker 4: the Blue Water resort and found the friends whom she
Speaker 4: had visited. The last person who had reported seeing her
Speaker 4: before she left was identified as a friend called Peter,
Speaker 4: a twenty year old nightclub promoter whom she had known
Speaker 4: from the Rochester area and who was also a vacation
Speaker 4: in Martle Beach. They had apparently met at a local
Speaker 4: nightclub the night before. After police interviewed him and the
Speaker 4: men with whom he was sharing his hotel room, they
Speaker 4: said that no one has been ruled in or out,
Speaker 4: adding that they did not have any persons of interest.
Speaker 4: Police searched her hotel room, finding all of the clause
Speaker 4: she packed, but not her purse or sell the phone.
Speaker 4: The phones network pings were tracked on a path leading
Speaker 4: sixty miles south of Mertle Beach to an area along
Speaker 4: US Route seventeen near the Georgetown Charleston County line. The
Speaker 4: pings had stopped abruptly in the early morning of April
Speaker 4: twenty sixth. Areas near areas near there and around Mertle
Speaker 4: Beach where the body might have been disposed of, were
Speaker 4: searched for eleven days. In twenty eleven, police searched an
Speaker 4: apartment in Georgetown County, but that effort did not yield
Speaker 4: any information. So her mother and this Peter Dude apparently
Speaker 4: had several confrontations on the television show Doctor Phil during
Speaker 4: which Peter often expressed frustration at the damage to his reputation. Dawn,
Speaker 4: who had driven to Martle Beach Today after her daughter's disappearance,
Speaker 4: eventually relocated there permanently to be close to where her
Speaker 4: daughter had been last seen and better monitor the progress
Speaker 4: of the investigation. In twenty fourteen, a newspaper article on
Speaker 4: the case's fifth anniversary, she expressed her theory that Brittany
Speaker 4: had defied her theory that Brittany had defied her to
Speaker 4: go to Martle Beach because she had been promised something
Speaker 4: of interest, such as a modeling job. Don believed her
Speaker 4: daughter had been trafficked, but the Martle Beach police did
Speaker 4: not believe this was a strong possibility. Due to their
Speaker 4: claim of little or no trafficking taking place in their jurisdiction.
Speaker 7: That never happen to trust me, I'm involved with it.
Speaker 4: But then I'm gonna follow this up with something pretty funny.
Speaker 4: A twenty nineteen report conducted by the South Carolina Human
Speaker 4: Trafficking Task Force raided the county as the number one
Speaker 4: county in South Carolina.
Speaker 7: That's why they're like, no, we don't have that happening here,
Speaker 7: and they're like, hey, we're making money off of it
Speaker 7: most likely.
Speaker 4: Here's where it gets kind of weird, though. The remains
Speaker 4: were found and it's it's it's quite recent. In early
Speaker 4: May twenty twenty two, Raymond Moody, a sixty two year
Speaker 4: old registered sex offender, turned himself into the Georgetown County
Speaker 4: Sheriff's office on the basis of an obstruction of justice charge.
Speaker 4: Police had first considered Moody a person of interest in
Speaker 4: her disappearance as early as twenty twelve. He confessed to
Speaker 4: the crime and provided the location of her own.
Speaker 7: And they found her amazed.
Speaker 4: Really yes. They excavated the site over next three days.
Speaker 4: May eleventh, twenty twenty two, human reuns were located, burying
Speaker 4: the woods off of a gated private drive about four
Speaker 4: feet into the ground, and they were identified as Britney's
Speaker 4: remains through DNA and mental records. The arrest warrant alleged
Speaker 4: that Brittany had been strangled and then buried. In the
Speaker 4: morning of April twenty six, twenty and nine, Georgetown County
Speaker 4: Sheriff's Office, along with Drexel's family, made the information public
Speaker 4: along with the announcement of his arrest. Moody was arrested
Speaker 4: again in charge of murdered, kidnapping, and first story criminal
Speaker 4: sexual misconduct, all alleged to a record on the day
Speaker 4: she disappeared. On October nineteenth, twenty twenty two, he pled
Speaker 4: guilty to all charges and was subsequently sentenced to life
Speaker 4: in prison with an additional two consecutive terms of years.
Speaker 7: It's just it is.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of really good YouTube like mini documentary
Speaker 4: things like and it shows all the interrogation footage of him,
Speaker 4: and it was actually his He was with a chick
Speaker 4: for years and she started something I can't remember exactly,
Speaker 4: but you can you can watch like the the interview
Speaker 4: she does with the cops. She basically rated him out
Speaker 4: and she went and she was like, look, I know
Speaker 4: that he's like he was convicted as a sex offender,
Speaker 4: like you know, twenty years ago or whatever or thirty
Speaker 4: years ago. But she was like, only until recently. He
Speaker 4: made some remarks about something and she was like, I
Speaker 4: can't shake the feeling that he knows more about what
Speaker 4: was going on.
Speaker 7: It's just and from there it just spiraled.
Speaker 4: And then eventually he just kind of comes in once
Speaker 4: he realizes he's been caught, and he's just so casual.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, so you know, just killed her whatever
Speaker 4: was trying that. Don'e it like this? And they were like,
Speaker 4: did you do anything else to her body? He was like,
Speaker 4: oh no, no, Jesus, I wouldn't. I wouldn't like decapitator
Speaker 4: or like do anything like that or wouldn't I'm not saying.
Speaker 7: Oh, but he probably raped her. Yeah, he like raped her,
Speaker 7: And that's what's fucked because like all the other cases,
Speaker 7: we don't know what happened. And like, this definitely looks
Speaker 7: like some chick that I would have known as a teenager,
Speaker 7: that I probably would have tried to get with or
Speaker 7: something like that. Just she has that very like small
Speaker 7: town kind of girl look and it's it's kind of
Speaker 7: disturbing once you find out, Okay, this is someone that
Speaker 7: we actually know what happened to her. Her remains were
Speaker 7: found in this creepy, bald looking dude. Yeah that probably
Speaker 7: kidnapped her, took her, and then did horrible things to
Speaker 7: her and her body while she was alive and conscious.
Speaker 7: And the fact that like, you know this young girl,
Speaker 7: and this happens more often than it should not happen
Speaker 7: at all, but it happens way too often and people
Speaker 7: are not really paying attention. Is this idea of like
Speaker 7: how often people go missing and taken from somebody and
Speaker 7: then used for horrible things? And like the last thing
Speaker 7: this young girl sees is this horrible, creepy, one eyed
Speaker 7: looking man choking her to death. Like he does have
Speaker 7: the look of a serial killer dude, Like.
Speaker 4: That's that's weird lazy eye thing or whatever it is.
Speaker 7: He looks like what you would picture a serial killer
Speaker 7: to look. Like, it's just frightening. This one. I wanted
Speaker 7: you to cover it because it's like disturbing. I didn't
Speaker 7: want to read it.
Speaker 4: There's if anyone, like, I know, it sounds weird, but
Speaker 4: like if anyone's like interested by the sound of that case,
Speaker 4: like I feel like we don't justice and what we said.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting to see some of the interrogation footage
Speaker 4: and stuff and you kind of hear more like in
Speaker 4: depth details, but like he's so casual about the whole thing,
Speaker 4: Like you can tell he knows that he's fucked. So
Speaker 4: I think he just kind of is, like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm probably just better off just saying it like it
Speaker 4: is now because I'm already fucked.
Speaker 7: So I've been coming and someone like living just be
Speaker 7: like why could And.
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, he's like sipping his coffee and
Speaker 4: it's all like chill. He's not handcuffed or anything. He's
Speaker 4: just like chilling out.
Speaker 7: In these sociopaths, right, they don't feel empathy for for
Speaker 7: other people or what they've done, right, they only revel
Speaker 7: in its fighting.
Speaker 4: Dude, there's a side by side picture of her. It's
Speaker 4: that picture you have of her, like she's wearing like
Speaker 4: some sort of blue top. Yeah, yeah, that picture. There's
Speaker 4: a side by side of that, and then him with
Speaker 4: the fucking night. It's frightening, And I swear of got
Speaker 4: just just to look at that, like and think that
Speaker 4: freak like kidnapping her when she's seventeen.
Speaker 7: What she like, that's scary. It's just frightening, and that
Speaker 7: we know what happened to her. The other case is.
Speaker 4: He would have been fifties.
Speaker 7: And even with the other cases, like and I knew
Speaker 7: this was going to happen. When we're going through this episode,
Speaker 7: is looking at some of the images of all these
Speaker 7: mostly women that like went missing, and there's way more,
Speaker 7: and we're kind of discussing the famous case. They're all
Speaker 7: like white women. That's why I want to make it
Speaker 7: the point of how many other people do go missing
Speaker 7: of color and stuff like that, because you know it
Speaker 7: it's the less dead, so to speak. People just don't
Speaker 7: pay attention to it as much, especially people from impoverished areas.
Speaker 7: They don't pay attention to it or care. But as
Speaker 7: soon as it's a beautiful young white woman with blue eyes,
Speaker 7: you know, all these chicks mostly that are the more
Speaker 7: famous cases are blondes or you know, blue eyed young women.
Speaker 7: You know, like like if you go through the majority
Speaker 7: of these photos, it's you know, it's very much like
Speaker 7: the case. So it is kind of I don't know,
Speaker 7: but it is still frightening. And bizarre to like look
Speaker 7: at these images of these people and think that they're
Speaker 7: just gone there, you know, they've disappeared, They're not here anymore.
Speaker 4: And it's right this. I don't mean this to sound
Speaker 4: like sick or whatever, but there's times I look at
Speaker 4: these things and I I I try to put myself
Speaker 4: in their shoes in the sense of like, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like that that girl must have been
Speaker 4: just like walking forever back to her hotel or whatever,
Speaker 4: and that's like, how does that even happen? Like does
Speaker 4: he just walk up and go, I'm just kidnapping you
Speaker 4: and that's it. He's no choice or like that.
Speaker 7: And we've talked about this too, was doing do that
Speaker 7: where I I, since a young age, w been super
Speaker 7: in a true crime and and I've talked about the
Speaker 7: law teacher that I knew that would like make us,
Speaker 7: he would like pick our brains when I was like
Speaker 7: in grade eleven. It was a lot of teacher that
Speaker 7: used to be a lawyer. And even when we did
Speaker 7: this would got me more fascinated with the researching this stuffs,
Speaker 7: even like the Paul Bernardo case. We did the whole
Speaker 7: Paul Bernardo case, and he made us like think about
Speaker 7: what would happen and and he would want us to
Speaker 7: solve it. So we did like a disturbing case where
Speaker 7: eventually I like to cover on the show. But it's
Speaker 7: disturbing some of these cases, like Holly Jones, the little
Speaker 7: girl that I'm missing in Toronto and then her body
Speaker 7: parts were found in suitcases cut up all around Toronto
Speaker 7: Island and stuff like that, and like frightening. And then
Speaker 7: we went through the whole case of him like what
Speaker 7: made him snap? He was looking at child porn and
Speaker 7: then it just snapped in his head and he went
Speaker 7: out there and the first little girl he saw, he
Speaker 7: just took her. No even thought to it, Like it's
Speaker 7: gonna be a fucked up case. We might end up
Speaker 7: covering it because I don't think Bailly's brain can handle it.
Speaker 7: But it's like really disturbing where we'd have to be
Speaker 7: semi serious, which we have to be for certain cases
Speaker 7: like Remediability to the Highway of Tears. It's all about
Speaker 7: Indigenous women going missing and stuff like that. That's an older episode,
Speaker 7: but it some of these episodes do make my skin crawl,
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, more than others.
Speaker 4: It's like and like I'm just I'm looking at this
Speaker 4: guy like an even in the sixties. He's a dude,
Speaker 4: big scary like if he can't really it doesn't do
Speaker 4: it justice. But there's a couple of the images of
Speaker 4: him coming in and a crouch into the courtroom and stuff,
Speaker 4: and he's like chained at the wrists and stuff. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm like, i'd probably have a like
Speaker 4: even a hard time. Don't know how physically you know,
Speaker 4: smashed up he is now, But I'm like, he looks
Speaker 4: like a big motherfucker, and like the idea of him
Speaker 4: like grabbing like I know, like body and like.
Speaker 7: He's like just like I know, it's just creepy. It's
Speaker 7: and I'm sure it makes people. And that's why you know,
Speaker 7: women should be careful, you know, and I and you know,
Speaker 7: women walk and like and they are like the take
Speaker 7: Back the Night is like a protest that feminist, dude,
Speaker 7: But it's not even a feminist movement. It's about like
Speaker 7: women being like not wanting wanting to be scared, you know,
Speaker 7: walking on the streets at night, and they shouldn't be scared.
Speaker 7: But we should also live in a society where we
Speaker 7: let criminals off with like nothing, and and and and
Speaker 7: you know it's scared of me into it like a
Speaker 7: terrible mental health.
Speaker 4: I wonder what for, Like you know, maybe I might
Speaker 4: bring the dog out, like later at night when it's
Speaker 4: kind of dark, just for a walk, like like around
Speaker 4: the block or whatever. And there's times like well, I'll
Speaker 4: see like a woman or a girl and I can
Speaker 4: tell she's like visibly like trying to be like you know,
Speaker 4: maybe trying to see like, am I some sort of
Speaker 4: anythink about murder?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I feel bad and weird, and I'm like like
Speaker 4: if I, if I cross the street, does not make
Speaker 4: this the weirder? Like if I do anything now do
Speaker 4: I make am I making this look like?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 7: It's true? And bringing up even Bernardo right, we're talking
Speaker 7: about what happens. He was just waiting at a bus
Speaker 7: stop in Scarborough for women to get off the bus
Speaker 7: and then just chloroform or like just take them and
Speaker 7: force them because he was the Scarborough rapist before you
Speaker 7: ever turn into a serial killer, and he would just
Speaker 7: hide and without and so ballsy and narcissistic and risky
Speaker 7: that he would do it out in the open. That's
Speaker 7: it should give me why the somebody in the chat
Speaker 7: while we're going live with Twitch was like, I have
Speaker 7: a daughter and these things like this scare the fucking
Speaker 7: to me, and like it should be. It's scary. What
Speaker 7: it's let's get into the last case because it's it's frightening,
Speaker 7: but it's kind of really weird and strange. Let's say,
Speaker 7: did a wolf or a bear or other animal attack
Speaker 7: and drag away a two year old boy from a
Speaker 7: popular Idaho campsite in twenty fifteen. This is weird. Uh,
Speaker 7: d Oro Coons and his parents his name is d
Speaker 7: Or literally d e oh r r d Or Coons
Speaker 7: and his parents, Jessica Mitchell and Vernal Coons. I think
Speaker 7: I have an image of them. Yeah, I think this
Speaker 7: is the I want to make sure very bizarre names
Speaker 7: for these. D Or is a really I've never even
Speaker 7: seen the spelling of this name, and I have no idea.
Speaker 7: I just want to look this so if it's third, Yeah,
Speaker 7: this is the city. It's just like it's weird because
Speaker 7: they look like normal. This sounds weird. They're just white people.
Speaker 7: There's like normal looking, kind of a little bit trailer
Speaker 7: parki ish, small town white people, and they just have
Speaker 7: strange names, Like the kid's name is Dior. That's his Sorry,
Speaker 7: it's not that weird, they're weird. Have you ever heard
Speaker 7: that name or the only one that's like Dior and
Speaker 7: Vernal vern Vern Yeah, Vernal weird. Uh. We're enjoying the
Speaker 7: wilderness on their camping vacation. I thought it would be
Speaker 7: something different to get off the beach and get into
Speaker 7: something like because this happens all the time, I'm sure
Speaker 7: during vacations, even going on to a trailer park or
Speaker 7: something like. And eventually we'll be talking about stuff like
Speaker 7: that when it comes to first class horror and some
Speaker 7: of the movies that we'll get into. But one day,
Speaker 7: the parents left on a walk, saying they left Dior
Speaker 7: with his grandfather great grandfather. So this guy's like.
Speaker 4: This case.
Speaker 7: He's in a chair and there's like he's like half
Speaker 7: dead like a or he is dead like a vacation.
Speaker 7: Uh what is that, Bernie or whatever, and then just
Speaker 7: putting him on this old guy's laugh and be like
Speaker 7: we're going for a walk and they're going to like
Speaker 7: smoke crack or some Sorry for this if anyone listens
Speaker 7: to this, that is part of this family. I'm kidding,
Speaker 7: I'm making assumptions. Who conversely thought that the parents were
Speaker 7: with him when they returned, the boy was missing. Once
Speaker 7: the parents were port of the disappearance, local UH, local
Speaker 7: and state authorities descend upon the area trying to find
Speaker 7: any evidence of little Dior. Neither the great grandfather nor
Speaker 7: the grandparents knew. While considered suspects, they have been they
Speaker 7: have not been charged.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 7: Some experts have been suspicious of the parents' behavior staying
Speaker 7: in The mother in particular, exhibit erratic behavior and apparently
Speaker 7: dislike being a mother. So if they if somebody found out, somebody,
Speaker 7: if there was people that knew of her behavior and
Speaker 7: not liking taking care of this kid and being one
Speaker 7: of those parents that like, you know, didn't choose to
Speaker 7: you know, going to have an abortion or whatever at
Speaker 7: a young age and had a kid and maybe with
Speaker 7: a guy that she didn't even necessarily want to be with,
Speaker 7: any of those cases of like, and then she's resentful
Speaker 7: and then it comes out on the kid, and then
Speaker 7: something happens, you know.
Speaker 4: There's so I remember hearing about the story. I don't
Speaker 4: know the exact because I think there was a pretty
Speaker 4: big I know, if it was like Netflix or one
Speaker 4: of those companies done a docuseries or a documentary about
Speaker 4: this case. I was back and it was like one
Speaker 4: of those things that went like you know, crazy viral.
Speaker 4: There's there's something, Yeah, there's something weird about that case.
Speaker 4: So if you look at in that documentary they have
Speaker 4: like the the previously like unreleased policing views and stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there seems sketchy even when I was reading through,
Speaker 7: like even the small little article I had, because all
Speaker 7: these are like cases that we didn't want to do
Speaker 7: a full episode on that are based on people going
Speaker 7: on vacations and mostly one of the most bizarre and
Speaker 7: strange things that happened during a vacation is you know,
Speaker 7: people go missing and they're like, it's the parents that
Speaker 7: the attorney. This is like the bizarre thing of why
Speaker 7: I brought this case up is the attorney for the
Speaker 7: parents said that the a bald eagle carried away the child.
Speaker 7: That's their excuse. The guys like, you know what, they're
Speaker 7: they're really loving parents. You know, they just wanted to
Speaker 7: go for a walk, to have a nice conversation and
Speaker 7: leave their kid behind with the great grandfather that obviously
Speaker 7: has no recollection of this because why you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, how he would have saw the kid disappear
Speaker 7: or you know, and this is an interpretation of what
Speaker 7: he could look like now now but years later.
Speaker 4: Horror at the campground Real life nightmare is the name
Speaker 4: of the weird movie or TV series whatever it is.
Speaker 4: But like there was and I remember in that I
Speaker 4: can only remember like little bits of it, but like
Speaker 4: there was shit I think where they said. I can't
Speaker 4: remember which of them set up, but they were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a there's a wolf's den near to where we were.
Speaker 7: How did you guys know that.
Speaker 4: It's home to fifteen or sixteen wolves and that might
Speaker 4: be something to So like the police went and like
Speaker 4: searched this then, and like they didn't find anything to
Speaker 4: do with course sort of that. You know, they found
Speaker 4: bones and different things, but it was all animal beast
Speaker 4: or like there was no child.
Speaker 7: Someone in the chat commented and said, the dad looks
Speaker 7: upset and the mom looks emotionless. And if you look
Speaker 7: at this image, also look at her face, that language
Speaker 7: shows it all. She looks like she's in disgust.
Speaker 4: So who's the the great granddad or whatever? Because I
Speaker 4: remember him being like super fucking creepy and weird.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to see if I can.
Speaker 4: Have you got pictures of the foreign and there's oh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he looks bizarre. I thought
Speaker 7: I had it, but I'm gonna bring it up. I
Speaker 7: just found it. It's kind of weird and maybe he
Speaker 7: had some part in it. I don't know, and they
Speaker 7: like wanted to get rid of the kid. But yeah, that's.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 4: I think the guy down in the bottom right, that's
Speaker 4: Isaac whatever. He's like the friend he was never apparently,
Speaker 4: I don't think ever named as like any sort of
Speaker 4: like suspect or whatever. Yeah, but I want to say,
Speaker 4: what's his name? That guy Isaac, because I feel like
Speaker 4: he had some sort of weird story.
Speaker 7: Where's baby Dior? Yeah, I see there's a couple of
Speaker 7: things of this guy. Update on suspect you could Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's not bringing up his name, Oh Isaac? Yeah ren
Speaker 7: wah Wand I had nothing to do with Dior's disappearance,
Speaker 7: so they blamed him. He's a freakish looking guy in
Speaker 7: some of these fucking photos. Can you say in bread?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you had sort of dad. He claims he
Speaker 4: was camping with his son when his son disappeared. He
Speaker 4: says he trusts Jessica, which is the motor. He believes
Speaker 4: that the child was abducted from the campsite. Says he
Speaker 4: left him with the granddad for fifteen or twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: In that time, he.
Speaker 9: Disappeared scary looking dude. Yeah, his forehead takes off most.
Speaker 4: Of his head. So then you have you have the mother.
Speaker 4: She says the same thing, that they left him with
Speaker 4: the granddad. She said she trusts the dad like her
Speaker 4: boyfriend or whatever, and his story. She believes that the
Speaker 4: child wandered away and passed away in the mountains near
Speaker 4: the campsite.
Speaker 7: And who knows, we might be being super rude and
Speaker 7: objectively basing our opinions on our assumptions, but like, I
Speaker 7: don't know, there's some energy I'm feeling from the photo.
Speaker 4: And like there's another thing about it, like you know,
Speaker 4: they're they're essentially in a way like being like, well,
Speaker 4: we left him with his grandparent and like you know,
Speaker 4: he went miss him from there or whatever. But then
Speaker 4: they also go on to say that so that's it's
Speaker 4: Jessica the mother, it's her father, that's who it is,
Speaker 4: Bob Walton. They also went on to say that he
Speaker 4: was an old, seventy six year old confused man who
Speaker 4: was on us.
Speaker 7: So why would they leave the kid with the Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's crap, exactly my question as bizarre.
Speaker 4: And the granddad said that he doesn't trust Isaac and
Speaker 4: he thinks it was him. And then Isaac is said
Speaker 4: to be have slight developmental disability. He was Grandpa Bob's
Speaker 4: former neighbor and fishing. But he's the only camera that
Speaker 4: weekend who law enforcement says hasn't changed his story at all.
Speaker 7: This is like kind of convincing that maybe he didn't
Speaker 7: do anything, but that they could blame it on him
Speaker 7: because he's a guy with mental.
Speaker 4: Because I think he was the only one who was
Speaker 4: never He was the only one I think who police
Speaker 4: never pulled and and went like he's a person of interest.
Speaker 4: Then his name was never like but the.
Speaker 7: Two parents someone close to the family, if not like
Speaker 7: even you know, with a certain abuse cases and stuff
Speaker 7: like that, it's usually a family member. Bizarre.
Speaker 4: You know, I always find it weird though, right, don't
Speaker 4: you feel like if you had a kid. I always
Speaker 4: find it weird, Like the way parents do that thing
Speaker 4: where it's like you know, I think he was like
Speaker 4: eating Yeah, I know, why would you just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Yeah, I think because
Speaker 4: we left him with with my my granddad. You know,
Speaker 4: he can't see, Yeah, he can't see or hear or
Speaker 4: walk or anything.
Speaker 7: He felt he was the kid looking him, but it
Speaker 7: was the wolf or whatever, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like yeah, and you're like, okay, so you're basically
Speaker 4: saying that that you bought, you brought the grandfather out
Speaker 4: and he was basically like a dead body, so you
Speaker 4: decided to leave your two year old child with him,
Speaker 4: and you you went walking into the woods wherever you went,
Speaker 4: and thought that was like okay, and then when you
Speaker 4: came back and realized he was gone, you're like, huh,
Speaker 4: must have some weird.
Speaker 7: It seems like they definitely somehow set this up. I'm
Speaker 7: not saying it's the parents.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, and I think a lot a lot of
Speaker 4: the theories aren't actually that the parents like martyred him
Speaker 4: or do anything like that. A lot of the theories
Speaker 4: are they probably weren't like looking after him in the
Speaker 4: sense of like maybe he fell or something happened to
Speaker 4: him and they went.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I could see that. You know often that happens
Speaker 7: in that In law class, we talked about one case
Speaker 7: of a dad that was bathing his kid and then
Speaker 7: accidentally hit like dropped him or something like that, and like,
Speaker 7: you suffered bad web, sorry about that. It's supposed to
Speaker 7: be the other case we're gonna get to your guys
Speaker 7: saved some people, but that the dad, yeah, he dropped
Speaker 7: the baby accent and then they tried to cover it
Speaker 7: up but nothing made sense and he it was literally
Speaker 7: just a mistake, but he got like not not something,
Speaker 7: not manslaughter, I think the baby did die. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I think he might have got manslaughter. Uh that the
Speaker 7: baby suffered an injury, like a head of injury, and
Speaker 7: they said it was like he fell off his chair
Speaker 7: or something like that. But then when they investigated, they
Speaker 7: found out the dad like dropped him in the bathtub
Speaker 7: and then tried to cover it up and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: And then it was like and how often stuff like
Speaker 7: that could happen? And the kid trips and bashes open
Speaker 7: his head and then their the mother already doesn't want
Speaker 7: the kid, and they're like and they're devastated, and you know,
Speaker 7: and in some case, but they have to clean it
Speaker 7: up and get rid of it or get rid of
Speaker 7: the body. I don't know. It just seems very sketchy.
Speaker 7: And then it seems like who knew and who knows
Speaker 7: that the grandfather was part of it and helped them
Speaker 7: cover it up, and yeah, yeah, it's very scary. And honestly,
Speaker 7: if anybody has any strange stories being on vacation, you
Speaker 7: can send to me at Stranger podcast at gmail dot com,
Speaker 7: even if it's for next year whatever, like send me
Speaker 7: some emails and we'll do like a Patreon episode. Like
Speaker 7: I said, people can send stories, And I've talked to
Speaker 7: a couple of fans that want to come on the show,
Speaker 7: like saying like, oh, I'd love to pop on the show,
Speaker 7: And I said that maybe for Patreon for all the
Speaker 7: people that subscribed to the Patreon Eventually we'll do like
Speaker 7: what We'll bring you on for ten to fifteen minutes
Speaker 7: and you can like tell a story and we'll put
Speaker 7: up on Patreon stuff like that. Where I've had at
Speaker 7: least two fans that wanted to tell Onega had a
Speaker 7: UFO story. So if that's going to drop people more
Speaker 7: towards supporting the show, even tho there's tons of other content,
Speaker 7: like you're we can start doing stuff like that and
Speaker 7: fans can come on and tell a spooky story or
Speaker 7: in kounter where the ghost or a UFO or anything
Speaker 7: like that. I think would be a lot of fun
Speaker 7: for the fans. But I knew this would get dark.
Speaker 7: But as soon as you started diving down, especially with
Speaker 7: me and you and how you know, Billy would find
Speaker 7: some way to make this a little lighter. But once
Speaker 7: you start really diving into it, it's it's like spooky
Speaker 7: and it gives it makes your skin crawl, and and
Speaker 7: and I'm the type of person, which I'm sure a
Speaker 7: lot of our fans are, that try to put themselves
Speaker 7: in the shoes of these people and understand what it
Speaker 7: was like to have this happen or go miss.
Speaker 4: Ye like, I didn't expect it to get Like I
Speaker 4: didn't even read iced that you just said that. They're
Speaker 4: like how kind of serious the episode got. But it's
Speaker 4: just such a I think it's it's such a relatable
Speaker 4: and like freaky thing in a way in the sense
Speaker 4: of like you know, everybody goes on Vaca, like you're
Speaker 4: going on a trip on Friday and it's like the
Speaker 4: idea of like, these people have fun.
Speaker 7: And have this a great experience and have the time
Speaker 7: off work, and then something very scary or like horrible,
Speaker 7: horrifying happens. Like to me, I would rather to be
Speaker 7: honest and what I've heard about what the sex rings
Speaker 7: are like, or even the darker, very dark conspiracy stuff.
Speaker 7: When it comes to Adrenochrome, I believe it. You don't
Speaker 7: have to to give a shit. If people don't believe
Speaker 7: that that is possible. They've in my point of view,
Speaker 7: admitted and showed us enough imagery and symbolism that they
Speaker 7: do do these things. But I would rather be shot
Speaker 7: in the fucking head than be in some sort of
Speaker 7: grotesque trafficking ring or your body being used for god
Speaker 7: knows what you know and take my organs if you
Speaker 7: really need to. But I don't want to be alive.
Speaker 7: And it's frightening, and we're gonna get into even more
Speaker 7: scary and dark and disturbing things throughout the show. It's
Speaker 7: gonna happen. I have plans to do some very dark
Speaker 7: episodes at some point, even when there's soon we'll be
Speaker 7: talking about the dark Web. Billy has to be on
Speaker 7: that one, because I feel like he'll be able to
Speaker 7: make light art, just be lighthearted with some of these episodes.
Speaker 7: But that's what we're doing, is you know fans. Now,
Speaker 7: it's just sometimes I'm like it gets dark and I'm
Speaker 7: gonna have like nightmares about being on some fucking ship,
Speaker 7: some ghost ship with all these passengers.
Speaker 4: I guess right while we were recording this, just to
Speaker 4: give people a little bit of context, so as we're
Speaker 4: about to finish this episode up right now, it is
Speaker 4: twelve fifty two am in Ireland right now, right and
Speaker 4: as we were talking about so of these stories, and
Speaker 4: I haven't had this feeling in a long time. But
Speaker 4: I'm there's nobody else in the house, only the dog,
Speaker 4: and he's down in the kitchen. So I'm on the
Speaker 4: thrd floor and like a while back there, I heard
Speaker 4: him bark and I have we have cameras like all
Speaker 4: inside the house and outside the house, and I can
Speaker 4: check them from my phone, and I just see him barking,
Speaker 4: like at the back door. Scar He's just standing on
Speaker 4: a chair, just staring at the back door, barking, And
Speaker 4: straight away I got this weird like chill of like, oh,
Speaker 4: what if there's a someone at my back door. This
Speaker 4: is how this ship happens.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you're taken and then I have to
Speaker 7: be like I have very few set of skills. I
Speaker 7: go there and get drunk and walk around fucking bars
Speaker 7: till I find you.
Speaker 4: And then you're just there. If you went, if you
Speaker 4: go missing, or anything happens to you, guys at the cottage,
Speaker 4: I'll I'll give you my word that I'll fly.
Speaker 7: The canon and then you'll come to my wedding.
Speaker 4: We'll get you back in time. We'll fight over shit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and this we were like planning on covering this
Speaker 7: within an hour and a half. But like me and Aaron,
Speaker 7: considering our friendship and how close we are, we always
Speaker 7: dive down these kind of rabbit holes and I enjoy
Speaker 7: that we do it, And for Aaron's sake, I always
Speaker 7: try to be like, okay, well, like stick to this
Speaker 7: time stamp so we can actually like do it this justice.
Speaker 7: But just because the time difference, and like you said,
Speaker 7: it's like one am there, so we'll bring it to
Speaker 7: a close. That's why I said. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: we I was like, this is gonna be at least
Speaker 7: two hours, you like, if we can nail it down
Speaker 7: on one hour half, like an hour and a half
Speaker 7: or one hour forty awesome, And I'm like, sweet, we
Speaker 7: can do that. And that's like when we start really
Speaker 7: getting into conversations. I can talk for another half an
Speaker 7: hour just about the idea of going missing on vacation,
Speaker 7: like even just talking about like how spooky and scary
Speaker 7: and frightening that is probably for every person. So beware
Speaker 7: next time you book a cruise or want to go
Speaker 7: on vacation to Cuba or something like that, like I
Speaker 7: And to end it on this, my cousin, the same
Speaker 7: one that went to Japan, went to Cuba after we
Speaker 7: already went. He's the same one I went to Cuba with.
Speaker 7: He went to like Mexico, Cuba or whatever. He went
Speaker 7: with a buddy that I also knew and met through him,
Speaker 7: and they went they went off the resort because they
Speaker 7: got close to this guy on the resort that worked
Speaker 7: on the resort, one of like the employees. They go
Speaker 7: off the resort. I will tell people some stories of
Speaker 7: my own of going off the resort for a Patreon
Speaker 7: episode sometime, because it's some I probably wouldn't talk about
Speaker 7: in the main show. And then so they went to
Speaker 7: this house and they the guy said, they said, they
Speaker 7: offered them food like this really shitty suit, but look
Speaker 7: like there was like some of the only food they had.
Speaker 7: And then they met this guy's dad I think, or
Speaker 7: grandfather or something like that of the whole story, but
Speaker 7: what I do remember is the guy showed them I
Speaker 7: think it might have been the guy that actually worked
Speaker 7: at the resort, a picture of his niece and then
Speaker 7: asked them how much they would pay. And they were like,
Speaker 7: I needed, we need to go back to the resort,
Speaker 7: like we're not doing this, and so the guy yeah,
Speaker 7: so the guy was like, look, this is my niece,
Speaker 7: how much would you pay for her to have her
Speaker 7: for an hour? Or whatever? Fucked up a in Cuba
Speaker 7: off the resort and somebody's home that lived in Cuba.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that shit's freaky out. Reminds me of like I
Speaker 4: watched I watched Infinity Pool.
Speaker 7: Is it worth watching?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it kind of reminds me of that, like
Speaker 4: that idea of like you know, you have this couple
Speaker 4: and they're on this resort and they meet this chick
Speaker 4: and her like boyfriend or whatever, which is me a
Speaker 4: God's character, and she's like yeah, no, let's go off
Speaker 4: resort and like do this fun stuff. And you can
Speaker 4: tell the other coupler like, uh, we're kind of told
Speaker 4: not to go off resort. That's like a really bad thing,
Speaker 4: and she's like, no, it'll be fun and it's like
Speaker 4: the wild West. You can like get anything, drugs and
Speaker 4: sex and it's really fun. And then you can just
Speaker 4: see how quickly that can do. Yeah.
Speaker 7: If I like Mia Goth, I do. I've gotten like
Speaker 7: recently into considering some of the films like X and
Speaker 7: stuff like that, I wouldn't mind cover If I do
Speaker 7: enjoy it and I watch it, I wouldn't mind covering it.
Speaker 7: We have tons of other stuff that we got on
Speaker 7: the list, but let's let Aaron go to bed and
Speaker 7: hopefully not have nightmares. But you know, I hope everyone
Speaker 7: enjoyed episodes like this episode or all episodes, but I
Speaker 7: hope you guys enjoy something a little more serious because
Speaker 7: there it's gonna there's gonna be times where we talk
Speaker 7: about these scary, obscure and strange circumstances and disturbing things
Speaker 7: that happen uh in this world that we live in,
Speaker 7: this reality that we exist in. So I hope people
Speaker 7: enjoy it, because I hope it makes you think twice
Speaker 7: though I kind of want to make it scared. This summer,
Speaker 7: especially at the end, people are planning vacations, and I
Speaker 7: hope it. Uh, I would freaks you out because a
Speaker 7: lot of people sometimes go when they go in the winter, right,
Speaker 7: it's like wintertime, and they'll go, we went to Cuba
Speaker 7: in February, where it's like snowy and cold here, you know. So,
Speaker 7: but I hope everyone enjoyed that, Aaron, if you want
Speaker 7: to shout your stuff, that's a vacation. Don't get trafficked.
Speaker 7: Especially if you were blonde and blue eyed. We it
Speaker 7: will at least look for you. Anyone outside died, doubt it.
Speaker 7: But if you're bond and blue eyed and you do
Speaker 7: go missing, at least you'll be on the internet on
Speaker 7: some news story and one hundred people will look for
Speaker 7: you for about a week and then you're only your
Speaker 7: family will care.
Speaker 4: So snaked, that's the only good thing about being like,
Speaker 4: you know, early tarties, balding dude.
Speaker 7: Nobody's looking.
Speaker 4: I want to have to deal with that. Nobody's so.
Speaker 7: I hope everyone enjoyed that. Give us five star rate
Speaker 7: and reviews, and obviously with the show, because who knows
Speaker 7: if we do get any sort of shadow band. Consider
Speaker 7: we were filming this and it's coming out of Canada
Speaker 7: and the communist regime that I live in, and people
Speaker 7: are like, it's not that bad. I'm like, okay, we
Speaker 7: can't read the news man. It's being censored on Facebook
Speaker 7: and Instagram and stuff like that because they want to
Speaker 7: skew and manipulate the news to fit the leftist narrative.
Speaker 7: And I'm not right or left. I think they're both
Speaker 7: fucking wrong. But like I read last week, I got
Speaker 7: the notification you can no longer view news on Instagram
Speaker 7: due to the policies of Canada.
Speaker 4: DA crazy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is people want talk about like fascism stuff,
Speaker 7: because fascism and communism are and socialism, all these different
Speaker 7: ideologies are very much the same at heart. They usually
Speaker 7: have one person conducting ruling over that said society comming
Speaker 7: it's about sharing, but then you still have someone that
Speaker 7: manipulates and controls that whole system and then uses people
Speaker 7: for labor and all that stuff, so it's not good
Speaker 7: either way. And then fascism, Yeah, if you understand fascismor
Speaker 7: that is nationalism. They still control all the media and
Speaker 7: they program people to view a specific narrative. And if
Speaker 7: the government is being some sort of narrative, it's probably
Speaker 7: not the good thing. It's probably the opposite. It's probably
Speaker 7: something evil. Yeah, so you know, everyone be aware because
Speaker 7: it's I feel like it's gonna get worse. I feel
Speaker 7: like the government's active has done an active war on
Speaker 7: its people all around the world. So hopefully it doesn't
Speaker 7: get bad. But I'm gonna record this show until a
Speaker 7: direct energy wepon hits my house.
Speaker 4: I guess this is off.
Speaker 7: I started putting all my episodes slowly onto a two
Speaker 7: terabyte fucking thing, so I'm starting to do it just
Speaker 7: in case the nuclear bomb does hit and then someone
Speaker 7: maybe can find that years to come and be like, wow,
Speaker 7: listen to this ship podcast, to these right these they
Speaker 7: listen to it. It's like listen to these racist, bigot
Speaker 7: right wing conspiracy theories. Oh time capsule. Yeah, yeah, I'll
Speaker 7: leave some of my spurs.
Speaker 4: Someone wants to clone me.
Speaker 7: And then make the podcast again, you know, they they
Speaker 7: pull me and then put me in a room like
Speaker 7: we really like that, Like that awful fucking bad human podcast.
Speaker 7: You created when you were actually alive. Now you're clone,
Speaker 7: it can replicate it for the world and the new
Speaker 7: generation of AI robot creatures. So I hope everyone enjoys
Speaker 7: the show. And you know, like I said when me
Speaker 7: and Billy were on the Mermaid episode, is like we're
Speaker 7: trying to you know, make you know, interesting content, but
Speaker 7: also make people not think about how horrible the world is.
Speaker 7: But for some reason, it always leads back to it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: wake up, stand up. You know, nothing's gonna change until
Speaker 7: the people change. Because let me end it on this
Speaker 7: because I like people know I get political, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: do it. I was gonna do a video about this anyways,
Speaker 7: because I'm a fucking loser. I get my opinion out
Speaker 7: to the internet. But I was gonna be like, governments
Speaker 7: have never granted the citizens or the people that they
Speaker 7: root over freedom. People have had to take it. So
Speaker 7: remember that, all right, everybody, stay strange fuckers au revoir,
Speaker 7: be careful as the fucking boat trip and take the supper.
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