WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:04.280 Tape deck Media. 2 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:12.439 See the. 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.679 Hello, and welcome to see what the Potty Rictor. My 4 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.879 name is Chris Chapman, joined as always by my co 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:25.519 hosts Aaron Frescus, What Up? And Joseph beccastro. 6 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:27.879 Hello, que de Pyes, And. 7 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:32.520 Joining us once again is our special guest Erica Shasky. Hello, 8 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:37.520 thanks for coming back. Erica to continue talking about Arnold's 9 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:44.520 nineteen ninety two three three three doesn't matter to me. 10 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:52.039 I was a toddler anyway, nineteen ninety three action comedy. Yeah, no, 11 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.320 I'm out of these action comedy vehicle, last Action Hero. 12 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:57.640 Today we are going to be talking about some of 13 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:01.880 the promotional material, So Aaron gonna tell us about stuff 14 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:05.680 that was a bad intro. It doesn't matter. He'll tell 15 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:06.359 us some stuff. 16 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:12.040 Okay, how's it going, guys? I'm all right. That's good. 17 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.640 Check out my cup. I can't. 18 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.799 Yeah, that's what's so cool about it. It's a movie. 19 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:24.319 Oh oh, ship, it's a movie. 20 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:26.400 You gotta talk so I. 21 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:28.319 Can see it. Because I just see Joe's giant face. 22 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:33.239 Don't shoot me, I got him. That's that's a whiskers. 23 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:35.400 He's over there somewhere. I don't know there he is 24 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:36.760 fucking blasting fools. 25 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:38.719 Ship that's like a comic book. 26 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.680 Yeah, well, I'm just turning it. 27 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:49.319 But yeah, it's I meant. I meant the arts comic books. 28 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:48.599 A strawby, because I don't I don't know what this 29 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.439 guy did with the cup before I got it. 30 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:51.480 That's fair. 31 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.120 Anyway, it's a Last Action Hero cup that I that 32 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.280 was like ten bucks eBay. Some from some pervert on 33 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:05.879 eBay snagged it. Anyway. Uh So we left off late 34 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.639 January ninety three, Universal moving up. Jurassic Parks released day 35 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:11.719 two weeks so, now come out a week before Last 36 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:16.960 Section Hero and then Colombia's delusional chairman Mark Canton responding 37 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.599 by doing nothing that's right. And I'm just gonna start 38 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.319 with le John mcchernon quote quote the John mcchernon. That's 39 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:27.120 that's what John mcchann doesn't quotes against quotes. 40 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.439 Mcquote, yeah him. 41 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:35.240 The mcquote McTiernan mcgave you guys. We're just talking about 42 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:36.520 Columbia over hyping. 43 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.280 The movie, the mcmovie. 44 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.319 Yeah, the mcmovie. Yeah. 45 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.599 You know how you have Spike Lee joints all his 46 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:44.000 or mcmovies. 47 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:50.080 No affiliation to McDonald wipes however, and uh, what I 48 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:54.319 was saying was mcgiernan pulled Empire Magazine in twenty twelve quote, 49 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:56.759 I didn't have time to get intimately involved in all 50 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:01.080 the press disasters, but the advertising campaign was terrible. It 51 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.680 did seem that if they hadn't overhyped the movie, it 52 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.680 would have been a lot easier to sell it, because 53 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:07.800 it's actually sweet and kind of small in its heart. 54 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:12.280 It isn't Cleopatra. It's the anti Cleopatra. And then he 55 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.439 finishes by saying, and if they had come on, I 56 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:22.000 know that fucked me up last time too. And if 57 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.280 they had come on a little more quietly, I mean, 58 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:27.080 it does help. It probably would have worked out better 59 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.639 for them anyway. Unquote and yeah, he ain't wrong. 60 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:31.280 Yeah. 61 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.520 So supposedly a few people urged Columbia to push back 62 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.360 to the release date, with Zach Penn talking in the 63 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:41.960 same Empire magazine article about how he once again called 64 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.159 up Mark Kanton saying quote, it was insane. I rang 65 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.000 him up and said, I want to see Jurassic Park 66 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.000 more than the last section, hero and last section. Here 67 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.319 was my idea as a way to try to get 68 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:52.840 him to like postpone the date. 69 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:54.919 That's why you're not on the movie anymore. 70 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.120 Exactly all the stuff, like every single time he says, 71 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:01.719 I don't know what's most of stuff, but I'm like, dude, yeah, 72 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:03.479 you're kind of you're being a pain in the ass. 73 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.360 Truly, they weren't going to listen to you before. They're 74 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:07.879 certainly not going to listen to you now, what the 75 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:08.280 fuck you? 76 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.759 Yeah, it kind of sounds like Mark Kinn's secretary kind 77 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.560 of just hated him because he's setting calls through because 78 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:15.400 it's the second time that zach Kin's been able to 79 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.600 get through no problem, just voices complaints. Anyway, Apparently competing 80 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:22.959 with Jurassic Park wasn't the only reason Canton was being 81 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:26.480 bugged about the release, Like the date Supposedly builth John 82 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:30.800 McTiernan and uh Sorr I was gonna say, Arnold Mick 83 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.720 Schwarzenegger ar both asked Columbia to push back the release 84 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.800 date in order to allow for more post production time, 85 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.920 but Kenton refused, supposedly dude, not wanting to give off 86 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:43.360 the impression to the media that the movie was in trouble, 87 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.519 which totally would have made them look like fucking idiots. 88 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.279 After all, the bragging they were doing about it being 89 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.600 the greatest movie ever, and apparently like not looking dumb 90 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.720 took presidents over the well being of the movie. Yeah, 91 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.959 because they're like, no, no, no, as long as we all 92 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.639 look dumb, it's fine. Whatever, we'll just look dumb later. Exactly. 93 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.079 That's the way I think about stuff too, which now 94 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.680 I'm trying to understand Mark can a little better. By 95 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:11.040 the way, John McTiernan was also kind of right as 96 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:13.120 far as what he said about the Last Section Hero 97 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:17.720 advertising campaign being not good because Columbia made a few 98 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.839 odd I guess odd would call him odd choices, which 99 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:23.279 Arnold talks about a little bit in his book because 100 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:25.600 apparently he was heavily involved with the ad campaign due 101 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.360 to being an executive producer on the film, and while 102 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.360 he does discuss some of the promotional sens we're going 103 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.680 to talk about, he wasn't exactly forthcoming about a few 104 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:38.279 pretty darn crucial details, for instance, the like mishaps and 105 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.800 like misfortunes that they'd end up dealing with throughout the 106 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.879 run of the ad campaign or whatever. Anyway, let's hear 107 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.360 what Arnold had to say about Last Action Heroes campaign 108 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.360 and I'll feel in any missing details along the way. 109 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.279 So he begins by talking about his involvement in the 110 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.959 film's merchandising decisions, specifically the design process of the Mattel 111 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.519 toy line, which, by the way, was just one of 112 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:59.800 the many aspects of the film that he had final 113 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.959 set over, because I think it was all the marketing 114 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.160 and promotional stuff. But yeah, anyway, he says in the book, quote, 115 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:08.519 when the toy people showed up with their prototypes of 116 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.480 a Jack Slater doll, I vetoed the combat weapons they proposed. 117 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.839 I said, this is the nineties, not the eighties. Instead 118 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.759 of wielding a flamethrower, the toy Jack Slater threw a 119 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.199 punch and said big mistake, which was Slater's tagline against 120 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.560 the bad guys on the toy package. It said, play 121 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.759 it smart, never play with real guns. Unquote. And yeah, 122 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:28.759 I'm sure you guys will be surprised that this was 123 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.600 not a very popular decision. They even like kind of 124 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.360 touched on it in the Nancy Griffin book Hit and Run, 125 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.600 which is one of the books I read, claiming that 126 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.399 the decision for a weaponless action figure was quote the 127 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.519 last thing anyone wanted to hear as one prominent producer 128 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:48.079 pointed out an Action figure with that weapons is a doll. Yeah. 129 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.839 So basically what I took from that is, if you 130 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.560 ever see a little kid playing with a Superman toys, 131 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:56.000 totally fine to be like nice doll pussy. I don't know, 132 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.920 because I started thinking, I'm like, yeah, I guess I know. 133 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.680 No sure, stretch arms, trum just like rolling over in 134 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.920 his grave. By the way, I wanted to mention the 135 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:08.120 Jurassic Park toys as well, but then I found a 136 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.360 few old TV ads for both of them, for Last 137 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:12.399 Action Hero and the Draftic Park toys, so we'll save 138 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.759 that for when we check out the promo videos. 139 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:17.639 Why wasn't the toy line called Last Action Figures. Yes, 140 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:19.600 I don't think I've ever seen a Last Time. Like 141 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.079 I've seen a lot of old toys, but I don't 142 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:22.480 think i've ever seen a Last Action Year. 143 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.639 Yeah, there's you might have, but they're they're they're kind 144 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:27.720 of boring, so we'll see them later. 145 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.480 It's just a dude in a red T shirt, yeah. 146 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.360 Pretty much, or a black T shirt, so you know 147 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:36.279 they got to change it up some more toys. Anyway, Well, 148 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.639 let's get back to Arnold talking about the awesome Mad campaign, 149 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.439 continuing singing in his book quote, we went all out 150 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:46.279 on merchandising and promotion. Besides the action toys, we licensed 151 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:49.040 seven kinds of video games, a twenty million dollar promotion 152 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.720 with Burger King, a thirty six million dollar ride film 153 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.920 to go into amusement parks. And this is my favorite. 154 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.959 NASA picked us to be the first ever paid advertisement 155 00:07:57.959 --> 00:07:58.639 in outer space. 156 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:01.399 Yeah, what is that? 157 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:06.480 Just like forcing astronauts to watch commercials. I don't understand 158 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:06.920 what that means. 159 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.519 Oh no, they have the astronauts doing the sign spinning 160 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.319 up there. It's very easy up there. No I do 161 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.839 remember this, so really, yeah, the space do not remember 162 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:19.319 this at all? 163 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:19.600 Yeah? 164 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.800 Oh my god, I haven't add I'm not. I don't 165 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:24.439 have a link for it. But like I saw what sorry, 166 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.360 I saw an ad for the like the number you 167 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.959 can call anyway. But he talks a little bit more 168 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.720 about we're gonna go through real fast. So first he 169 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.039 mentioned about how they licensed seven kind of video games, 170 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.039 which like made it sound like they made seven different 171 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.840 video games, but what he meant was that it was 172 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.279 released on seven different platforms. 173 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.600 Yeah, okay, meaning like Super Nintendo why is both counted 174 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.159 as a kind of video game to Arnold? Yeah, yeah, exactly. 175 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.600 Yeah, and that was including the original Nintendo. Yeah, which 176 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.559 is I was surprised by it because, like the Super 177 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.840 Nintendo had already been out for like three years. Yeah, 178 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.559 so I was like, what Andy was still making? Apparently 179 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:01.799 any the Lost any S game was released in nineteen 180 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:02.240 ninety five. 181 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:05.559 I think Nintendo like supports their consoles for a really 182 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:06.120 long time. 183 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:07.519 Is that good or bad? 184 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.759 That's good. It means you don't have to buy the 185 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.720 new console to play the new games. Okay, yeah, well 186 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:14.519 I mean I mean good for consumers. I guess I don't. 187 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.279 I'm curious. I see, like, I'm curious what was the 188 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.159 next one after the Super Ants? Was it sixty four? Yeah? Yeah, 189 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.120 I think so, I'm now curious what year that came out, 190 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:24.440 Like if they waited until. 191 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.879 Yeah, yeah, something like that before they like. 192 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.159 Stopped making games for the Nintendo. 193 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.240 Virtual Boy was in there somewhere. 194 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.240 But sure, wait, wasn't that bad? Yeah? 195 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:37.039 Yeah? 196 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:38.200 Was that the Red one? 197 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.799 Yeah? Yeah, so when they gave people horrible headaches? 198 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.440 Okay, see that and the power Glove looks so cool, 199 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.759 but you can't afford like my parents ain't gonna pay 200 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:48.679 for that shit, no, especially because they don't think it 201 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:49.320 worked very well. 202 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:50.720 Yeah, no, I think it was. 203 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:53.840 But that Wizard movie Man was great advertising. 204 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:57.240 Oh yeah, on the Power Gloves so bad exactly. 205 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.320 That and a super Mario Brothers three was just like, man, 206 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:01.720 this is awesome. 207 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.879 Well that lived up to the fucking hype. That game 208 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:04.759 is still amazing. 209 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:05.559 Yeah. 210 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.919 That and your parents getting divorced was like I was like, yeah, 211 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:10.840 all about it, because like I was kind of upset 212 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:12.279 about it until I watched that movie. I was like, 213 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.440 all right, Fred Savage has a point. It's gonna be 214 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:19.879 okay to anyway. Exactly. Uh. But yeah, as far as 215 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:23.559 the video game, apparently it also did not include guns 216 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.120 or any weapons at all, which I'm sure made it 217 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.519 super fun. Yeah, it's supposed to be like kind of 218 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:30.480 like a beat him up game. 219 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:31.759 Yeah that makes sense. 220 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.399 The game also wasn't released until January of ninety four, 221 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.519 so six months after the movie hit theaters. Jesus and 222 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.000 I guess this was to coincide with the home video release. 223 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.360 I'm no marketing genius, but that seems like a bad choice. 224 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:44.879 Okay, Yes, And I want to take a look at 225 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:47.039 the Admiral Fast because it's like thirty seconds song and 226 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:50.840 it contained some useful interesting info. I would guess you could. 227 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:55.840 Say cool and play if you want. At you then 228 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:56.639 we got it. 229 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.879 Lashed Action Hero Now the year's most Chimpact movie is 230 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.879 Today's Hottest video game for your Super Nintendo in Sega 231 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:08.080 Genesis systems, and it's available only at your video store. 232 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.240 So when you're returning this cassette, pick up the game 233 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:12.879 and live the action. 234 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.559 Okay, anyone noticed how they mentioned that it's only available 235 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:20.279 at the video store. 236 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.960 Yeah? Did everybody notice how you don't see the game? 237 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:30.759 Yeah? I did not, Like, we're just about to take 238 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.519 this kid's word for it that he's like staring at 239 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.519 a TV and like having so much fun, like that. 240 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.720 They finished the game when they made that commercial. 241 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.519 I mean, I wasn't like really wanted to play the 242 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.240 game until I saw much fun that kid was having 243 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:48.679 or he was having a seizure while playing the game. Anyway. Okay, 244 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.440 so I'm gonna throw out to Wikipedia for the reason 245 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.360 behind the whole video store decision, because I don't know 246 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.080 it's easier to do that, which says that each copy 247 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.440 of the Genesis and set Super a nes versions had 248 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.879 an unusually high wholesale price of sixty to seventy dollars, 249 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:08.519 with resulting one dollars retail price Jesus, which is crazy 250 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.759 for night Yeah, which was too high for most consumers obviously, 251 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.919 because the retail price now for PlayStation five games is 252 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:15.919 what seventy sixty nine? 253 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.519 I think, Yeah, they're just like they're just now making 254 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.039 games more expensive for the first. 255 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.919 They're just now making the price of video games sexy 256 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.200 sixty nine dollars, So that's insane for nineteen ninety three. 257 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.519 But it continues by saying that as a result, the 258 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.679 two game versions were originally only available as rentals for 259 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:37.360 a minimum seven month period, which I think they helped 260 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.399 did that for seven months, and then after a seven 261 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:42.639 month rental period was up, the two game versions would 262 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:46.279 be repriced for consumer retail. So were they trying to 263 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.200 I guess they were trying to recoup some of the 264 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:53.320 don't I don't know. That's weird. I just don't understand, Like, like, 265 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:54.960 the more stuff I find out about their ad campaign, 266 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:56.559 the more I'm just like, what are you guys purposely 267 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.799 trying to like self sabotaging, Like, what are you do mean, 268 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:02.279 this is so weird anyway, Okay. So, Arnold also mentioned 269 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:04.480 the twenty million dollar promotion with burn King, which we 270 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.440 watched the ad and ad fordur in the pre watch 271 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.600 the one with the cool collectible cups. Oh yeah, yeah, 272 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.200 which I didn't know, Joe, did you have one of those? 273 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:12.559 Because I didn't know it was a sleeve that was 274 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:12.879 on it. 275 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:13.960 I didn't have one. 276 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:15.519 Do you know what do you remember him though? Like 277 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.039 if you turn it, it like like, oh yeah, it kind 278 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:20.080 of makes it look like a movie. 279 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:22.320 No, I don't remember that. 280 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:24.879 It was well, it's it was a sleeve. 281 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.279 It was a sleeve that you would turn, so basically 282 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.519 you put over that holes in it so there'd be 283 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:31.320 a picture on there and as you turn it, it make 284 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.440 it look like a movie. So yeah, So there were 285 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.480 comments on the There were comments on like Reddit. They 286 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:38.159 were like, yeah, I lost the sleeve after the first day. 287 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:42.759 But anyway. 288 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:44.159 Uh. 289 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.159 He then mentions that the thirty six million dollar quote 290 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:50.240 unquote ride film to go in amusement parks, which I 291 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:53.039 could not find a damn thing about except a mention 292 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.600 of it in a nineteen ninety three Bloomberg article, which 293 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:58.440 says that a simulator ride using film footage was in 294 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.159 the works, along with the virtual virtual reality version of 295 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.600 the movie that was supposed to show in theaters, which 296 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:05.759 I don't get how that would work. 297 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:10.000 But no, but that sounds insanely. Yeah, that sounds insane. 298 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.200 I mean I think it could work nowadays with like 299 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:13.480 the four D capability. 300 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.080 Yeah, yeah, that's what it sounds like. Then. 301 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.399 I mean, maybe like a production of like they had 302 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:23.519 like I think it was that Disneyland, or maybe they didn't. 303 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.200 They had like a I Shrunk the audience like production 304 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:27.679 where you I never went to that. 305 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.399 Okay, Yeah, that was well that was the same thing 306 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:31.639 as like forty though, isn't it? 307 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.840 Or was it essentially essentially which was it was like 308 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.080 three D plus a little bit of like like in 309 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.080 room like actual effects like fog machines and shit like the. 310 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.080 Dog actually sneezes on you and stuff. 311 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:48.399 Yeah, have you guys done the forty movies because that 312 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.039 seems like it would be like just. 313 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:52.440 Sounds like a nightmare. 314 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.080 That sounds like a take it off for three out. 315 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.799 Yeah, it just sounds like the seed is going to 316 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:58.000 be punching you the whole time. 317 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:03.440 Like, I don't that sounds pleasurable. But I'm the guy 318 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:06.639 that likes time massages, you know, the the chicks like 319 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.639 staying on you and like fucking do the people's elbow 320 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:10.440 in your back and shit. 321 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.080 So okay, so the yeah, that Bloomberg article. Okay. Anyway, 322 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:19.679 I'm assuming the plans for both of those, the virtual 323 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:23.080 reality thing and the simulator, were dropped after the film 324 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.919 and performed at the box office because I could not 325 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:28.600 find a like, like I said a thing about him, damn. 326 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.399 And at first I thought that maybe it had like 327 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.120 a short run at like Universal Studios, but that because 328 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:34.679 that sounds like something that they'd have there. But there's 329 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:38.600 the Universal made Jurassic Parks. There's no Yeah, yeah that's true. 330 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:39.159 That's true. 331 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:40.200 Yeah. 332 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:41.559 Once I was like, you know, was it it? 333 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:43.200 Okay, I started I started looking for it, and I 334 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:44.720 was like, maybe Univeral Studios. I was like, oh wait, 335 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.000 they know that. 336 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:47.039 I'm trying to like, who would even have it if 337 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:48.120 not Universal Studios? 338 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:48.559 Exactly? 339 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:51.120 Definitely not Disney, right, yeah, so like. 340 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.679 Yeah, it feels like it would be like the tram 341 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:57.480 ride at Universal. Well, isn't like a version of it? 342 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.440 Well, isn't a Yeah true, that actually would be kind 343 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:01.679 of like Jurassic. 344 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.080 Has its own ride there. 345 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.759 Yeah, like that's like a tour through the park or something, right, 346 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.480 the tram ride, No, the the Jurassic Park one. 347 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.840 It's like a it's like a water ride. 348 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:16.159 Yeah yeah, but are you just like what's like right? 349 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:20.399 I mean I feel like the concept is it's been 350 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:21.919 a long time, says it's been on it, but yeah, 351 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:23.600 I think the concept is that you're just kind of 352 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:27.320 going through the park, but like Jssic Park. 353 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:29.080 Yeah, yeah, that's. 354 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.279 Universal Universal Studio. 355 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:36.960 I thought that was the tram ride. I'm so confused. Sorry. 356 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:39.679 I even watched Okay, this is how bored I was 357 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.840 the other day. I literally I just turned on TikTok 358 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:47.120 and somebody was recording the Jurassic Park like ride live. 359 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.480 While they were on it, I was like, I'll watch this. 360 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.320 That's fine, Like I'll just sit here and pretend I'm 361 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.399 on the ride with you when you were there. Yeah, 362 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.840 I've been on it twice. Can I tell you we 363 00:16:57.879 --> 00:16:58.600 went through the park? 364 00:16:58.639 --> 00:16:59.080 I don't know. 365 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:01.399 I remember the end of the ride and the end 366 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.840 of the ride. I remember thinking, oh, that was very 367 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:05.400 similar to Indiana Jones. 368 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:08.880 Was there no drop in that ride? 369 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:09.279 Drop? 370 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.160 There's one drop where it's like the dinosaur comes at 371 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.119 you and then the ride ducks under the dinosaur, and 372 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.880 it just reminded me of like Indiana Jones. Were you like, duck. 373 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:21.160 Fuck that t rex. 374 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:21.920 Yeah, I don't know. 375 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:24.240 So it's not like a not like a splash mountain drop. 376 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:25.359 It's like a little small drop. 377 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.039 No, it's like a splash mountain drop. 378 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.359 It's probably a little less than splash mountain. But it's 379 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:32.920 it's not like a steep. It's not like it's not 380 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.519 like a beginning of Pirates of the character. 381 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.640 Yeah, yeah, that was the other one. No, no, no, okay. 382 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.119 No, just fuck that t rex because apparently we went 383 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:44.079 to Universe. I went to Universe Studios once with our 384 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:48.960 family and we went on that ride they took. Yeah, 385 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.200 and we you know, the fucking pictures on the ride 386 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.839 like that they take it. We never buy those fucking pictures, right, Well, 387 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:59.519 apparently my face was so fucking scared that they they 388 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:02.039 thought it was hilarious and they decided to buy the 389 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:04.359 fucking picture. Oh my god, the picture's up in the 390 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:05.000 house somewhere. 391 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:09.400 That's awesome. Jose Or I don't know if I'm sure. 392 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.880 Erica went on too, but the Simpson's ones just riding 393 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.640 through the springfield. 394 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:16.119 Right, yeah, you're like in an elevator or something. So 395 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:19.279 I think, like you guys ever been on the Back 396 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:20.720 of the Future, right, you're just kind of in a 397 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.160 cart with like a screen in front. Yeah, like the 398 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:24.519 cart Star. 399 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:28.640 Tours, right yeah, but but not like well Star Tours 400 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.519 is like you're in a cart with a bunch of people. 401 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:34.079 This is just a cart with your people. 402 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:36.160 Oh so it's per party. 403 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:42.000 Yes, Oh, I don't remember. There was seven years ago. 404 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.359 I only remember because I downed of Mitchellata inline and 405 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.160 the whole time I was sitting in the back of 406 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.279 the car thinking, don't throw up on the back of 407 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:50.200 your brother's head. 408 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:52.480 Do that. 409 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.160 So it's a it's not even like it's a it's 410 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:56.880 one of like Star toars is what do you call those? 411 00:18:57.759 --> 00:18:57.960 Yeah? 412 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:00.480 Yeah, so it's not moving like it is, but it's 413 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:02.759 not like resturract forward. 414 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.039 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how the Back to the 415 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:08.400 Future one was, and I think probably that's how it's not. 416 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.119 That's what it sounds like. They wanted to set up 417 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:11.160 for last section Hero. 418 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.039 Yeah, for thirty six million dollars, which I don't remember. 419 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.960 How much that tto thing costs. But like I feel 420 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:17.640 like it was a lot. 421 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.480 Yeah, it was a lot. I just like, if it's 422 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.559 not at Universal Studios and it's not at Disneyland, does 423 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.359 that mean it just ended up at like Family Fun 424 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.160 Center or something like Bush. 425 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.279 The Gardens that's an the place or not Berry Farm. 426 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.680 Yeah, was Magic Mountain a thing back then? I guess 427 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:32.319 six Flights. 428 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:36.079 Yes, Mountain has been there since like at least the sixties. 429 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:38.680 Yeah, so I guess I meant six Flags. 430 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.079 But yeah, well I mean six Flags bought Magic Button. 431 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:46.400 Yeah, okay, so yeah that never happened. And I tried 432 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.599 to find something because there's a bunch of articles that 433 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.559 I like talk about old rides that don't exist anymore. 434 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:54.759 It's but like in ones that are based on movies. 435 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.599 But it's not any of those. So I don't think 436 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:58.599 it like once the movie bombed. I don't. I think 437 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.519 it just they're like just quietly like, okay, we're not 438 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:01.960 going to do that. 439 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:03.759 Not worth it. 440 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:08.279 Moving on, Arnold describes his favorite of their marketing stunts, saying, quote, 441 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:10.640 NASA picked us up to be the well, like I 442 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.079 was saying, NASA picked us up to be the first 443 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:16.240 ever paid advertisement atter space. We painted Last Action Hero 444 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.880 and Arnold Schwarzenegger on the sides of a rocket and 445 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.839 then held a national sweepstakes whose winners would get to 446 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.279 push the launch button. Unquote that sounds joke like that 447 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:29.400 sounds kind of cool, yeah, yeah, but unfortunately it once 448 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:34.519 again emits a few pretty important details. So quick background 449 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:38.079 information about the whole thing. On March third, nineteen ninety three, 450 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.680 Columbia Pictures announced that it made a deal with NASA 451 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.000 to promote Last Section Hero but having Arnold's name painted 452 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:46.480 on US six outer booster rockets and then the title 453 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:50.920 logo painted across the fuselage, the payload and a science satellite. 454 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:55.599 The plan was for the unmanned Conestoga rocket to launch 455 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.319 sometime in May nineteen ninety three and then conduct micro 456 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:01.720 gravity experiments as it orbits there for two years. It 457 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:03.519 was supposed to be, like you said, the first time 458 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:05.799 that a US rocket would be used to advertising space, 459 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:09.319 with Columbia's President of Marketing Sid Ganis aka the dude 460 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.720 that didn't know how to describe the film, yeah, him 461 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:16.640 telling the United Press International that they were excited about 462 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.279 breaking new ground in the advertising world, and apparently they 463 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:21.400 because apparently they had like a bunch of different companies 464 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:24.440 that wanted to participate anyway. The president of Space Marketing, Inc. 465 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:28.400 Which was the marketing firm that partnered with NASA, ended 466 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:31.359 up telling the La Times that they decided on only 467 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.079 one ad because, quote, we didn't want the rocket to 468 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.559 look like a pace car at the Indy five hundred yeah, unquote. 469 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:41.880 But yeah, the ad would end up costing Columbia Pictures 470 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:45.759 five hundred thousand dollars, which seems like a lot of 471 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:47.559 money for an ad that nobody's ever They're never gonna 472 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:48.079 say you. 473 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:52.440 See precisely once like during the launch, which yeah, nobody watches, 474 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:54.680 but I know it's like. 475 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:56.839 It's that's not the point. It's like about doing it 476 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.440 more like for like the hype or whatever, like getting 477 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.599 people just thinking about the move, like exactly public. Yeah, 478 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:06.599 offering the jet, offering the what. 479 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:08.559 Offering the jet for PEPSI? 480 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:11.720 Oh yeah, yeah, offering the jet. Do we watch something 481 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:14.440 about someone that like scammed his way into getting enough 482 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:14.680 for that. 483 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:15.759 I didn't scam his way. 484 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:16.759 He did scamm it. 485 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:18.759 He was sorry, sorry, he found a loophole. 486 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.359 Yeah, PEPSI, where's my jet? It's on Netflix? It's good. 487 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.880 Yeah, we did watch it, okay, yes, but yeah. So 488 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.519 in order to build that hype, they also partnered with 489 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:31.720 AT and T to set up a nine hundred number 490 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:33.960 where callers would leave a message that would be sent 491 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.880 up into space with the rocket, which I'm assuming they 492 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.680 would have done by just like duct taping an old 493 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.200 answering machine to the side of the like you put 494 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:42.920 them all on an answering machine and then like duct taping 495 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:43.880 on the side of the rocket. You know. 496 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.240 Again, my question is like, for who, like are the 497 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:51.039 astronauts forced to listen to these messages? Is it for aliens? 498 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.319 I think it's just like a like again, an advertising, 499 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.359 like a promo gimmick, like your stuff will be up 500 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:58.960 in space. I don't know. And this wasn't free, by 501 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.920 the way, Oh yeah, that's true. It's a nine Yes, 502 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:03.839 calling up that nine hundred number and leaving a message 503 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.240 would put you back three dollars and fifty cents per message. 504 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.000 Man, my dad made me pay the phone bill one 505 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:13.359 time because I called my friend too many times. They 506 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.920 had my friend had got a cell phone, and I 507 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:17.599 don't know that it was a nine hundred number. What 508 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.119 but they got a cell phone unless. 509 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:21.400 Your friend was like a special friend. 510 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:24.960 It was not a special friend, Okay, but I called 511 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:27.160 my friend so much on the landline to talk to 512 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:31.680 them over here. My dad made me pay the phone bill. 513 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:41.000 Eric learned money management really early. I didn't. But yeah, 514 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.000 it also entered the three dollars and fifty cents whatever, 515 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.880 or just the call in general just entered you into 516 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.240 a contest. The contest that Arnold mentioned, but the two 517 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.599 winners joining Arnold for the launch and even helping him 518 00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:53.960 push the button that launches the rocket. Yeah, which I'm 519 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.599 assuming he probably needed do to. Like I guess the 520 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.720 button was probably small, and you got the sausage fingers. 521 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.720 Yeah, it was like, what do you need to problem? 522 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.920 Ye're like, yeah, that's from the Simpsons where it's like 523 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.720 where or Homer gets fat and he's trying to like 524 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:09.240 dial phone. The things you were dealing with are to. 525 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:16.200 Obtain the special telling at uh. 526 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:19.240 Fortunately for them, Arnold's extra beefy digits wouldn't be a problem, 527 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.319 because about two months later Variety Variety reported that NASA 528 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.319 had confirmed that the rocket would not launch until at 529 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.240 least July or August, which would be one to two 530 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.160 months after the film was released. Columbia still try to 531 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.319 play it cool by saying that the delayed launch still 532 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.279 worked as far as marketing for like the international release. Sure, 533 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:41.920 but the media just spun it as pretty much like 534 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.160 another sign that the if the movie's in trouble. The 535 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:49.079 launch eventually ended up being canceled completely, which uh I 536 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:50.680 didn't write down, but it was like due to like 537 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:54.160 the president of that's the uh the company that NASA 538 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:54.920 partnered with. 539 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:56.319 The marketing company. 540 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.839 Yeah, yeah, he wanted to get that going like as 541 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:03.200 a thing, and there was such pushback against it that 542 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.039 apparently they outlawed it in the US. They still do. 543 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.079 They This wasn't the first time that they. Russia was 544 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:12.799 already doing this like advertising in space, oh oh okay, yeah, 545 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:18.519 but they outlauded in the US, like. 546 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.720 Like the concept of contests. 547 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.319 No advertising in space, setting any any sort of advertise, 548 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.000 like any sort of advertisement in space, gotcha. Yeah. So 549 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:27.200 I think it was Clinton that ended up signing something 550 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.599 that just completely outlawed it. But yeah, the launch being 551 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.599 canceled didn't really get any coverage because at this point 552 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.440 the movie had already been released, and like I'm saying, 553 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:38.799 leading up to that release, the media would just latch 554 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:43.839 onto any sort of negative news about the movie. It's 555 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.720 only because they were so supposedly, and that's what pretty 556 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.000 much any sort of article that was saying about it 557 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.720 even after its release, they were like fuck this movie, 558 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:52.880 like they came out of the. 559 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:57.160 Gate so like whatever, but like overconfident, yes exactly, Yeah, 560 00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.279 which sucks because that really hit, Like none of this 561 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.079 stuff really has anything to do with the movie. Yeah, 562 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:03.759 and there was it suffers for it. 563 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.839 Like I read an article that was it was old too, 564 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.559 but it was talking about how how much influence the 565 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.839 media has over how well movies do. But by doing 566 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.799 that kind of stuff, like it called Sleepless in Seattle 567 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:22.400 a sleeper hit before the movie came out, and like 568 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.359 it was it was commenting on that, sorry that how 569 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.200 it kept getting called a sleeper hit, and it was like, 570 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.359 you can't be a sleeper hit if your movie hasn't 571 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.759 come out yet. Yeah, like that's something that what happens. 572 00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.359 The data has to bear out afterwards, like yeah, yeah, no, I. 573 00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.680 Mean it's literally called sleepless in Seattle. 574 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.119 Oh see. They were just well that it can't be 575 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.240 a sleeper Joe. It has to be a Sleepless hit. 576 00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.599 No, the characters are sleepless in Seattle. But if you 577 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.680 watch it in anywhere not Seattle, then then you'll be 578 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:51.519 you'll be the sleep sleep. 579 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.119 Yeah, Bay, you're a sleeper. You know what. 580 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.279 I can't tell you that I've watched or purchased anything 581 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:01.880 from Russia because I've seen their advertisements in space. 582 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:03.799 Yeah. I didn't even look I didn't look into that 583 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:11.319 space for me, I didn't look into that. But it 584 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.759 was like, oh, interesting Russia. Like, if we are going 585 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.039 to beat them in one thing, it will be shooting 586 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:25.759 ads into space. I want Dolgatlovich at in space anyway. Okay, Yeah, 587 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.759 But as far as like the just the media latching 588 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:29.839 on of stuff like Entertainment Weeklies cover article the week 589 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.599 before the movie came out was all about the negative 590 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.480 rumors surrounding the film, although I will admit it includes 591 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.880 my favorite bit of info about the rocket launch, with 592 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.799 them writing that the idea of advertising in space was 593 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:46.559 getting pushed back from the National Coalition of on Television Violence. Apparently, 594 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:48.920 they were picketing outside the Sony lot and according to 595 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.559 the article, they were quote calling for the studio to 596 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.680 paint children's drawings about Peace on the Rocket instead, which 597 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.720 unquote but sounds like something like out of like a 598 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.799 Simpsons episode that makes fun of hippies. Like for sure, 599 00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:02.960 you gotta because like you're working. 600 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.559 For your car men. 601 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:07.799 But like it's just like when I read that, it was like, what, 602 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:10.039 that's what you want? I don't know. 603 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.119 Well, I mean, as I mentioned before, there's a whole 604 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.920 uproar about this movie and violence in the media and everything, 605 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.519 and yet out anybody trying to find it. Fucking with Donahue. 606 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.759 Yeah, yeah, So it was not looking good as far 607 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.680 as marketing at this point, but at least it can't 608 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:27.480 get any worse. 609 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.079 Right for sure? 610 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.599 Certainly, Yeah, let's find out by finishing off that quote 611 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.480 from Marls book with him saying, quote, we put up 612 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.400 a four story tall, inflatable statue of Jack Slater on 613 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.960 a raft just off the beach at can during the 614 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.960 film Festival in May, and I set a personal record 615 00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.559 there by giving forty TV interviews and fifty four print 616 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.680 interviews in a single twenty four hour period. 617 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:50.759 Wow, Jess, Yeah, Jesus. 618 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:52.480 And so the only thing I wanted to mention about 619 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.039 the interview thing, and I can't remember where I read 620 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.359 this but anyway, it was like how he'd gotten his 621 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.559 answers down pretty much down to like three minutes or 622 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.759 sorry he didn't. He got each interview down at three minutes. Yeah, 623 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.680 and he's got he's got his answers like to where 624 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.640 they were like mechanical, like uh, basically, the journalist was 625 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.759 like that it kind of sucks with the interviewer, which 626 00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.839 I get, but also like, yeah, I'm sure doing press 627 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.359 junkets fucking suck yeaheah, So he's trying. 628 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.039 To shove that nearly one hundred and yeah, it's. 629 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.440 Like, let's just get it through postgame interview. You know, 630 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:23.039 we're like we just went in there and played the 631 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.279 game and executed, Like all right, what you can you 632 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.920 tell me about that? But like, man, we executed like 633 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:29.000 we're out of Cincinnati. 634 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.240 You know, that's why the crazy ones get so much attention, 635 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.480 because it's like something that's, oh. 636 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.640 Yeah, everybody's trying to fucking bait him into like giving 637 00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.680 him a good sound clip or whatever. But like the 638 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.039 smart ones, you know, we'll just be like or even 639 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.400 like Marshawn Lynch because you know, Marshaw Lynch is like 640 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.279 a very like friendly and open guy and he was 641 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.559 like that at the beginning of his career, but the 642 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:51.839 press kept taking a ship and doing it, so like 643 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.920 at Super Bowl and He's like, I'm just here so 644 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:54.720 I don't get fined. 645 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.640 Like that was literally he said that. 646 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.039 At least twenty times. That was his answer to every thing, like, oh, Marshaun, 647 00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:02.559 tell me about this. He's like, I'm just here so 648 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.200 I don't get fined. That's all he did. 649 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:07.200 Nice, Okay. 650 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.720 So as far as the four story inflatable jacks Slater 651 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.640 that Arnold mentioned, it was the same one that they 652 00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.640 used in the movie during the the Jack Slater premiere 653 00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.839 at the end, which they actually shot in New York 654 00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.759 City in Times Square. And I'm going to add a 655 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.200 picture to the chat, but for anyone listening, it basically 656 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.799 looks like a balloon you'd see at the Macy's Thanksgiving 657 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.799 d parade. It's just like a big inflatable Jack Slater 658 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.000 that's holding a gun in one hand and a police 659 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.319 badge in the other hand. So they first used the 660 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.920 balloon during filming in New York City and then brought 661 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.559 it to the promote the film at the Can Festival. 662 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.759 So sorry, Can Film Festival, not it wasn't the goat 663 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.799 festival that we were was? It sounds like a festival 664 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:54.240 for goats, like can Yeah, I couldn't think of a 665 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.039 better joke. It was like just anyway. Now, I'm going 666 00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.200 to send a picture of the original version of the balloon, 667 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.799 and I know it's not the best quality picture, but 668 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.039 do you guys notice a difference between the two. I 669 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.559 doubt it because the picture quality is so shitty. 670 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.400 I mean, the gun looks double guns. 671 00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.799 Yeah, the gun looks like it's deflated a little bit. 672 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:17.240 Like It's like I was. 673 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.599 Almost wondering if it was supposed to be nunchucks instead of. 674 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:26.279 Kind of looks like st Alone instead of Arnold. 675 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:27.759 It kind of does. 676 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.640 Well, yeah, it kind of looks like Jack Palance instead 677 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.680 of Shortznegger. 678 00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.000 But this version isn't holding a badge in it's left hand. 679 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:38.720 Oh it's not. 680 00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:40.640 No, is that a grenade? 681 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.079 Is the infinity gunlet? 682 00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:45.440 That's actually good, Like it kind of looks like that. 683 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.400 I was thinking like a meatball sub or something like that, 684 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:56.839 but it's actually a bundle of dynamite. Oh yeah, well. 685 00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:58.160 That's right in front of his ding gung. 686 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.000 Yes, that's great. 687 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.519 That's lighting your subject matter right. 688 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.640 There For anybody listening, this picture looks like it was 689 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:12.720 took in like ninety eight. 690 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:14.960 Yeah, like World War One. 691 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.400 It definitely looks like it is one hundred percent Abraham Lincoln. 692 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.000 It's all fucking black and white and grainy as shit. 693 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.440 Now I want to put a top hat on him. 694 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.440 He's all like ready to take over the cell, saying. 695 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.359 It's based on one of like the promo pictures for 696 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.559 the film. It's with him holding a gun in one 697 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.039 hand and the sick But uh. 698 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:40.680 I've seen that. But why did they change up for 699 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:41.160 the festival? 700 00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.039 So they originally planned to use this version of the 701 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.920 balloom for the film. It wasn't just a festival boat 702 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.480 for the film because like in the film Edge, Yeah, 703 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.480 this version was all set up in like on March first, 704 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:56.160 nineteen ninety three in Times Square. Unfortunately, three days earlier, 705 00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:59.839 six people died and over a thousand were injured when 706 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.920 error set off a bomb in the parking garage below 707 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.160 the World Trade Center and an attempt to collapse the 708 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:05.519 North Tower into the South Tower. 709 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:06.519 Jesus Christ. 710 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.960 So people were understandably upset about a seventy five foot 711 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.240 inflatable man showing off his meatball sub looking dynamite, like 712 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.880 like basically they took it down, deflated it, and then 713 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.880 changed the dynamite a place pitch. 714 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:21.039 What makes sense. 715 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.440 Yeah, I'm just a giant German man holding some dynamite. 716 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.880 It's like that sounds more like Diehard than Schwartzeneger movie man. 717 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.559 He cannot catch a break. 718 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.839 With the seriously, seriously, like this movie is. It's just 719 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.200 one thing after another. No, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 720 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:40.240 which we'll get to in a second. 721 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.480 But real trade center stuff for him is just. 722 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.119 Well you think like at least one person involved with it. 723 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:48.920 This happened three days after, Like they put that up 724 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.920 three days after the bombing, so you think that like 725 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.200 at least one person would be like maybe a bomb's 726 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.119 a bad choice. Yeah, that's nothing. 727 00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:57.759 Well, I mean and like I don't know how long 728 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.839 it takes to switch out what inflated fucking tensory inflatable 729 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.799 dude is holding, So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, But 730 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.200 also what was blown off was a bunch of Bnewer 731 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.039 in a van. Was that they didn't throw a bunch 732 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:11.000 of T and T in there. 733 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.159 Well I don't know that TNT kind of looked like 734 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:14.039 a handful of anwer. 735 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.599 I'm surprised that I'm surprised we don't have a a 736 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.079 like a quote from the head of marketing saying that 737 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.480 also it was maneure Okay, yeah, there wasn't T and 738 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.760 T come on anyway. And yeah, like Eric was saying, 739 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.559 arnold his hat. He has a complicated relationship with those towers, 740 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.920 because just a few years later, another one of his 741 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.679 films would encounter a similar issue when the Clatteral Damage 742 00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:35.920 crew was forced to take down their four story balloon 743 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.119 of Schwarzenegger because he was holding a kind of jet 744 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.000 fuel in one hand and then he was like like 745 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.400 one of those like Red Sox pennants in their hand, 746 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.079 which was just like a weird marketing tactic to put 747 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.760 in New York, Like, I don't know, Plus, what did 748 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.800 they have to do with the movie? What do they 749 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.320 have to do with the movie anyway? Okay, sorry uh 750 00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.079 And then before we get back to filming, the last 751 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.480 thing I wanted to mention about the marketing has to 752 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.280 do with the film's poster design and is probably my 753 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.360 favorite of the behind the scenes stories. 754 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.000 This dinosaur with the nun in the background. I don't 755 00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:11.079 remember seeing dinosaur with the nun yeah on this. 756 00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.519 Oh yeah, I forgot to put the poster up there. 757 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.320 Looks like it that looks like a habit. 758 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.039 Oh wait none, none, none, Oh yes, a nun ends 759 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.400 up at the funeral shooting at them because everyone starts 760 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.159 pulling out. Oh yeah, but the leo the fart he 761 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.880 passed gas one last time. You know, I love the joke. 762 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:37.039 Shane Shane Black is a genius anyway. Uh okay, so 763 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.440 uh sorry. So, as a way to be more accessible 764 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.320 as an executive producer, Arnold set himself up in a 765 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.360 forty foot long trailer on the Sony lot. Yeah. During 766 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.159 filming and apparently due to having a final say over 767 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.400 all aspects of the film's marketing and promotional material, he 768 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.599 had a phone installed with the direct line to the 769 00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.559 marketing executives' offices, whose executives he would summon throughout the day, 770 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:02.679 and would often be seen running back and forth from 771 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.159 the Sony offices to arnold trailer, Which is just awesome 772 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.280 that he's like got that kind of power and making 773 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.280 them just like rue back and forth as he's like 774 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:10.599 tinkering this stuff. 775 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.440 Yeah, he's got his own personal bat phone just to 776 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.280 tone something exactly. 777 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.599 So one day, he summons the VP of marketing to 778 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.400 the trailer to discuss the film's poster, and supposedly Arnold 779 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.400 was not happy with the poster. He wasn't a fan, 780 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.599 supposedly telling the executive that, quote, my hair isn't flying 781 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.760 no matter how much hairspread you have with the win 782 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.440 in the head, it should be flying all over the place. Yeah. 783 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.800 He insists the poster be redrawn in order to bring 784 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.280 them from quote a totally static look to something that 785 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.280 represents what the film is saying, which is bang uncorrect. 786 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.119 He then allegedly pulled out an alternate poster that he'd 787 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.760 had commissioned without informing the studio, which supposedly pissed off 788 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:57.480 the marketing department. This supposedly led to Mark Kenton, the 789 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.320 head of the studio, stopping like running over to Arnold's trailer, 790 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:03.960 not to yell at them or like even give them 791 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.440 a hard time, but yeah, but to assure them that 792 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.079 they'll we're gonna keep working on the poster until you're happy, basically, 793 00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:16.199 which I'm like whatever, Like I don't know, Like at 794 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:17.960 this point, you're just like, Okay, it's guess in charge 795 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:21.800 to be fair if you look behind me, Arnold's hair 796 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.000 does look like it's flying in that poster a sure, like, 797 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.000 so they nailed that part at least. Yeah, Like apparently 798 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.719 it was like just like, you know, like slick but 799 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.000 not flying like perfectly kaifed. 800 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.079 Yeah, exactly as all things should be. 801 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.320 Okay. So getting back to the actual filming of the movie. 802 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.760 So before getting sidetracked, we're about halfway through principal photography, 803 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.519 with production moving to New York City at the beginning 804 00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.239 of March, where they spend a little over a week 805 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.800 pulling a double whammy by shooting on location in Times 806 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.840 Square while also indvertently offending the public with their giant 807 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.800 ORNLD balloon. And the balloon wasn't the only only thing 808 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.360 being deflated, because it was during this time that Arnold 809 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:03.559 first begins worrying about the film, which I don't think 810 00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.280 actually works as far as like the whole deflated metaphor 811 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.280 going for but you guys go, I mean it's an 812 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.559 enthusiasm is deflated. There you go, there you go e 813 00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.000 ego a little bit. Yeah, So to set up the 814 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.239 quote from Arnold, and also because I don't think I 815 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.400 mentioned it before, which is done because it's supposedly part 816 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.760 of the reason that the film bombed. But Last Action 817 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:24.239 Hero was always supposed to be rated PG thirteen. There 818 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.639 was never any like it was huh yes with a 819 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.719 Hit and Run the book Hit and Run, claiming that 820 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.440 a survey at the time had shown that a PG 821 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.000 rated film was three times more likely to make a 822 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:36.800 one hundred million dollars at the box office than an 823 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.280 R rated film, which I think it's always. 824 00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:40.599 You said, that's PG. 825 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.239 Yeah, so the lower the writing, I'm assuming just like 826 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.320 because pretty much, yeah. 827 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:49.320 Oh so PG first ours is three times more likely. 828 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:50.679 But what about PG thirteen? 829 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.239 PG thirteen they didn't have the thing for, but I'm 830 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:54.760 assuming it can't be far off. 831 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.079 Also, when was PG thirteen invented. 832 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.599 Eighty right after Template Doom? So like eighty five or 833 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.960 eighty four? Eighty five? Gotcha? Which I was reading about it, 834 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.559 and I was like, what are you doing? Why are 835 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.440 you wasting your like this? You're not going to talk 836 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.400 about this at all, are you? Nope? Okay, then stop 837 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.159 reading about it, because I was like, oh, what was 838 00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.000 the first PG thirteen movie? But now I could have 839 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.559 told you, guys, but I don't remember because I stopped 840 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.360 reading about it anyway, okay, and then, in order to 841 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.239 cash in on that by appealing to the whitest possible audience, 842 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.079 Last Action Hero was first rewritten and then eventually shot 843 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:25.119 as a PG thirteen film. 844 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.360 Got it, yes, because white people love PG thirteen films, 845 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:28.800 do they? 846 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:29.440 I don't know? 847 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.519 Sorry, you said whitest, and I kept. 848 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.840 Hearing white the whitest, yes wideest. 849 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.840 Yes, well whitest too, Yes. 850 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:41.320 To the whitest whitest yep, w whitest possible. 851 00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.599 AUDI know the white wide like you know? Like I 852 00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.519 don't know? W I d e wh whitest anyway? 853 00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:47.599 So yeah. 854 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:50.760 According to Ardlne's book, apparently a late night conversation with 855 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.119 John McTiernan during these eight days that they were filming 856 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.960 in New York was when he realized there might be 857 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.920 an issue, saying, quote, John always had great clarity of 858 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.920 and on Last Action Hero. That gave me my first 859 00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.000 hint of trouble. We were having a drink after shooting 860 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.800 until three in the morning one night in New York 861 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.599 and John said, what we're really making here is et. 862 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:13.960 When I heard that, I had a sinking feeling that 863 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.159 maybe the whole PG thirteen thing was a mistake. Even 864 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:18.920 though we had a kid costar in the movie, people 865 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.400 might not buy me doing a family friendly action film. 866 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.159 That was okay for Harrison Forden Raiders of Lost Arc, 867 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.199 but not for me. I made these comedies, of course, 868 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:28.960 but those were different because no one expects you to 869 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.599 blow people up in a comedy. When you're selling a 870 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:33.320 movie with the word action in the title, you better 871 00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:36.679 deliver some Conan two had fizzled because we'd made it PG. 872 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.920 Now we were betting we could pack enough amazing stunts 873 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:41.719 and energy to make Last Action Hero live up to 874 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.480 its name. End quote. And I'm sorry if I'm sitting 875 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.199 in the office, but I'm pretty sure John mcturns et 876 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.079 comment was meant less as like an insightful take on 877 00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.519 Like It wasn't like insightful, like you know what we 878 00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.280 are making here? It kind of seems like we're making et. 879 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:53.960 It wasn't mean like there was more like a dude 880 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:55.880 that's just exhausted from working eighteen hours a day on 881 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.400 a movie that bears like very little resemblance to the 882 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.559 one he actually signed off for. Yeah, he's fucking tired 883 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.199 at this point. Basically. Also, that quote had me super 884 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:05.639 looking forward to watching Conan Destroyer. 885 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.880 Now, I'm all right, yeah, that's gonna be great. 886 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.599 The whole time I was watching the first one, I 887 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.599 was thinking, Man, this movie is so much better if 888 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.960 you didn't have all that icky like violence and nudity 889 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:14.159 in it. 890 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.679 You know what this movie needed, less titties, less blood. Yeah. 891 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.760 The more we learn about this, the more I see 892 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.000 why it was a flop. But I've always watched this 893 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.760 movie and been like, this movie's fucking good. Yeah, yeah, 894 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.760 so I agree, Like it just sounds like it's a 895 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.280 victim of its own like, and we'll get to this 896 00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.800 when we actually fucking watch the movie and like get 897 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.760 done even like a. 898 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.400 Little bit of hubrious the studios part, for sure, that the. 899 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:47.639 Hubris is the money making part, but the rest of it, Yeah, 900 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.360 the actual film is a little victim of its own circumstance, 901 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.119 Like a lot of people just trying to like we 902 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:56.079 want to make like the best movie, but we feel 903 00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:57.800 like we're going this way or that way, so we 904 00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.800 might want to not do that. And then the studio 905 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.760 just being like, let's fucking make money. I think if 906 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:08.599 it weren't like an Arnold movie in nineteen ninety three, Yeah, 907 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.760 it would have been fine, but they just kind of 908 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:14.679 they they fumbled. 909 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.639 I disagree with what John mctriner said, Like if they 910 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.800 just would have toned down the fucking marketing and just 911 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:23.320 like because like you said, it's it's not a gigantic film, 912 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:25.840 like it's yeah, it's like a smaller kind of story. 913 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:30.840 So it's basically your fucking rich, dick white guy who 914 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.480 fucking like goes to like Duke or whatever and like 915 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.719 fucking gets like a couple of too many d. 916 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.519 Wise, and it has become CEO, you know, and they're like. 917 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.000 Like a million West events from the Men Ducks. 918 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:47.239 Yeah, he's basically that, like, yeah, he's still fucking extremely successful, 919 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.639 but yeah he's not like the fucking eighth richest man 920 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:50.039 in the world. 921 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:51.280 He's like the two. 922 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.840 Hundred and forty seventh. Like ooh, would have fucking disaster. 923 00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.719 It's like, no, fuck that. Like you had fucking lightning 924 00:42:57.800 --> 00:42:59.559 in a bottle, but they're not lightning in a bottle 925 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.280 and actually the opposite of that, but this is the 926 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.599 asset or bottle inside lightning. 927 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.639 I don't know the head of Columbia tude, it's just 928 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.880 a fucking eat like which we'll find out as it 929 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.519 goes further along, even though we kind of already showed 930 00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:14.599 it anyway. Okay, so as far as last section here, 931 00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.599 I think it goes without saying that the closer they 932 00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.880 got to the film's immovable release date, the more stressful 933 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.159 things were becoming, especially for John McTiernan, who would tell 934 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.559 Empire magazine in twenty twelve that the last stretch of 935 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.400 production was quote the worst time I've ever had in 936 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.199 this business. And keep in mind that directing Rollerball basically 937 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.639 resulting in that fucker going to prison. So because first 938 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:41.400 day there was probably like eight hour workdays. Nice. Yeah, 939 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.000 there's actually a story in that same Empire article that's 940 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.159 like a great example of how tight of a schedule 941 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.920 they were under while filming. It comes from Austin O'Brien, 942 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.280 and he's talking about working with an obviously stressed out 943 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.320 John McTiernan. He says, quote, I do remember that the 944 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.280 deeple we got in, John looked more tired, more haggard. 945 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.000 He was great with me when we got something right, 946 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.079 he turned into a little kid and started jumping around. 947 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.079 But there was one day when I got a sense 948 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.360 of how under the gun he was. We'd built a 949 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.679 new York Skyline inside the studio, and I was hanging 950 00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:11.360 from a gargoyle wearing a harness. So it was like 951 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.360 one of the last scenes in the movie. But anyway, 952 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.440 so he says, it was so tight that I literally 953 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.920 couldn't breathe, but I was too nervous to say anything, 954 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.199 and I passed out for a few seconds. People were 955 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:21.960 cutting off my clothes and I got kind of scary. 956 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.480 But I do remember m Churning coming up afterwards and saying, 957 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:26.800 in situations like these, I don't care what's happening, You 958 00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:28.760 tell me and we'll fix it. Don't be afraid. You 959 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.880 haven't done anything wrong, but we cannot afford to stop shooting. 960 00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:40.639 Oh cool, But yeah, wait, those are two completely different messages. Yeah, 961 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:46.360 so wait, I don't understand like he said, hey, hey, 962 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.679 your safety, no matter what happens, you got to tell 963 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:51.760 me when sit like that is happening so we can 964 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:52.360 fix it. 965 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.199 I think I think he meant like he like just 966 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:56.679 the fact that sorry, this is just me sticking for 967 00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:58.440 Johnny Kernon, I guess, but I think he meant that, like, 968 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.159 if it's too tight, you gotta tell us before where 969 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.159 it becomes an issue where you pass out and we're wait, 970 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:03.039 like we have to. 971 00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.679 We have to wait for you. The real problem with 972 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.519 the situation is we just wasted I don't know, forty 973 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:10.599 five seconds waiting for you to wake up. That was 974 00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.199 fucking that's that's like half a million dollars right there. 975 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.480 When we could have like we had to wait for 976 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:17.840 you to like wake up and then they had to 977 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.920 double check you, and like there's an hour gone now 978 00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.159 when we could have just loosened the straps, you know, 979 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.480 So just like just tell us next to me. Yeah, yeah, I. 980 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.239 Get where the bus man's coming from. You know. It's 981 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:33.880 just like, look, if you die, we're fucked. So don't die. 982 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:38.280 So if you tell us this thing to recast, we'll 983 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.400 spend three minutes having you not die, but we want 984 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.760 to spend twenty five minutes of you dying, because fuck, you're. 985 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.159 Like a Bruce Lee into the Dragon thing with him die. 986 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.840 It's where they're like like what are they just like 987 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.199 they're using like doubles and stuff like that or so 988 00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.920 I don't know, I don't know. Brindley with the crow, well, yeah, 989 00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.199 Bradley with the Crow, Yeah for sure. 990 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.119 The end of the movie Rest in Peace. 991 00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.239 Uh yeah, unquote, but mccernyon basically admitted in that same 992 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:07.920 article that the reason the tone of the movie is 993 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.280 kind of all over the place is because the head 994 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.280 of the studio, which was Mark Canton, kept going back 995 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.480 and forth about whether their last Action hero should be 996 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.440 more of a kid's movie or more of an action movie, 997 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.239 which mciernan says led to a watered down version of 998 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.599 the script, and that as they entered the last few 999 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.639 weeks of production, they were quote just trying to get 1000 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.199 the damn thing finished. It also seems like the stress 1001 00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.840 was making mcinernan paranoid, with Shane Black talking about a 1002 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.559 time that he and David are not visited the set 1003 00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.199 and one of the studio executives told him that they 1004 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.000 should stop by Arnold's trailer, which they did. Apparently this 1005 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.400 pissed off John mctoernan, who later accused them of conspiring 1006 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.119 against him. And this just makes me definitely start seeing 1007 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:50.719 how this is the same dude who went to prison 1008 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.000 for line to the FBI about hiring someone who illegally 1009 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.400 wired tap like the roller because he ended up like 1010 00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.079 he ended up hiring someone who illegally wire tap the 1011 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.920 Rollerball producer's phone, Like once he started having problems on Rollerball, 1012 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.920 he's probably like getting flashbacks from last section. Year was 1013 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.159 like never again, never again, and then just hire someone 1014 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:08.760 I don't know. 1015 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.320 Yeah, the only difference is whatever illegal shit he pulled 1016 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.320 on last section, Hero, he didn't get caught for you. 1017 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.760 Yeah, it's not a crime if you don't get charged. 1018 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.280 It's true, just saying, but. 1019 00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.199 Not everyone was having a bad time. It seems like 1020 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.119 most of the actors enjoyed the experience. Austin O'Brien speaks 1021 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.719 pretty fondly of it, as does Charles Dance, who spoke 1022 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.920 very highly of Arnold, saying, quote, he creates an extraordinary 1023 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.760 atmosphere on set because everybody in the film business is 1024 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:39.280 rampant with insecurity and paranoia, which, yeah, apparent. Yeah, everybody's 1025 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.239 nauseatingly nice to each other for fear of their next job. 1026 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.480 But the more I worked, the more I realized that 1027 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.800 the good atmosphere actually came from Arnold unquote. I kind 1028 00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:49.760 of a feeling that like he just kind of seems 1029 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.440 like he brings that intergy to any movie set that 1030 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.840 he's working on. Yeah. Sure, but I wouldn't be surprised 1031 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:55.960 if he dialed it up a little bit for this 1032 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.840 movie due to him being like executive producer and the 1033 00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.960 director being under an incredible manst like basically having to 1034 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.519 like bring the situation back after you got John mc cunnan. 1035 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.440 Like, oh my god, yeah that's true. 1036 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:12.760 Yeah, you guys are conspiring against me. He's joking. He's joking, 1037 00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:15.519 like stirming off. 1038 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:18.599 The only other thing I know Charles Dance from is 1039 00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:22.119 from Game of Thrones, and he's fucking amazing that And 1040 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.639 I know you haven't watched it, Aaron, because it's fantasy 1041 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.119 and okay, really like the prime time of that show 1042 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.880 was when fucking Charles Dance was on it. Because that 1043 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.559 guy just he's just the fucking he's just the beast. 1044 00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:36.000 I don't know a better way to put it, but 1045 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.159 like him as a fucking character and him as an 1046 00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.920 actor in him as whatever fucking dad Lanister whatever his 1047 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.039 name is. In that scene when he's talking to Taiwan, yeah, 1048 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.840 and a scene when he's talking to the other kid 1049 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.320 and he's fucking like, uh taking the skin off a 1050 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.800 deer or whatever. I'm like, this guy's fucking amazing. 1051 00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:58.519 Like just good acting or the characters a badass or 1052 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.000 just both it's. 1053 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.239 Oh, well written character, but he's probably like perfectly cast in. 1054 00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:07.440 It, perfectly cast. So I imagine either he is going to 1055 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:13.159 be like the fucking best dude, like a fucking professional, 1056 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.079 you know, he's just out there like carving and cut. 1057 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.000 You're like, oh man, hey, fucking good, take good take, Govda. 1058 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.440 I don't know how you know he's out Yeah, if 1059 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.000 you were just like super intimidating too, Hello, that's a 1060 00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:33.159 fucking good okay, gov Da. Uh, I'm hungry. I am 1061 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:34.960 a worst kind of sell us. I don't know. I 1062 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.840 can't do. But just anyways, he's either like that or 1063 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.480 just a giant fucking asshole. But what you're saying about 1064 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.679 him and like Arnold bringing the levity and everything, I'm 1065 00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.880 just hoping he was out there fucking giving a good time. 1066 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.119 So but yeah, no, that guy seems school as fuck. 1067 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.239 And I'm glad he was in Game of Thrones and 1068 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.280 in Last Night shar I'm glad he's saying good things 1069 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.599 about Last Night Actioncenaro because it makes you feel better 1070 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.239 about Game of Thrones because later on on that show 1071 00:49:58.239 --> 00:49:59.679 things probably didn't go so well. 1072 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.320 But as soon as there, yeah, he definitely had a 1073 00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:05.800 good time with this, but uh yeah, so anyway, the 1074 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.480 only other thing I wanted to mention that happened during 1075 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.119 these last few weeks of production was that Arnold received 1076 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.800 the International Star of the Decade award at the nineteen 1077 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.239 ninety three Show West Convention in Las Vegas, which was 1078 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.039 hosted by the National Association of Theater Owners or NATO, 1079 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.320 which was an odd choice because that acronym was definitely 1080 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.559 already being used by the time, but like by a 1081 00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.280 much more well known organization, like when they came up 1082 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.440 with that. But whatever, I guess. 1083 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.760 North American Tang observers, right, yeah, exactly, people who make 1084 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:36.639 sure Tang's good. 1085 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:38.800 They did actually change their name in March of this 1086 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:44.320 year to the to Cinema United, So yeah, which hopefully 1087 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:48.199 inspires the Independent Theater Owners Coalition the IOC to do 1088 00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:48.599 the same. 1089 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:53.239 Okay, so the SOFIA MANN and that Cinema United men, 1090 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:54.599 so you're. 1091 00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:00.480 Come see, like, that's exactly why I was wanted the 1092 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.800 Independent Theater Orders Coalition the same, which is i t 1093 00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.599 o C. Maybe they'll't block me on Instagram for suggesting 1094 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.960 that they change the name the Coalition of Unaffiliated National 1095 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.559 Theaters because their theaters are usually filled with a bunch 1096 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.400 of pretentious to unts, you know, I. 1097 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.119 Mean, this is basically the fucking Team America thing, or 1098 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.960 it's like Screen Actors Guild, Film Actress Guild. You can 1099 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:23.559 figure out. 1100 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.159 The exactly Joseph is better because it was off the 1101 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:27.840 top of his head and mind took me an hour 1102 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:32.679 to right. But whatever, probably I. 1103 00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:35.960 Always get come comeing off my head. 1104 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:45.920 Was just on Joe's tongue, come on the tip of 1105 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:47.079 all right, cut all this out. 1106 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:53.400 Okay, it's comedy Gold. 1107 00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:58.760 I can't it's comedy Gold. Okay, anyway, okay, okay, Now 1108 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:02.519 we got to leave it in because of that show West, 1109 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.760 which is actually a convention that's still held today, although 1110 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:06.559 it's called CinemaCon. Now have you ever heard of that? 1111 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:08.159 Yeah, I've heard of CinemaCon. 1112 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.400 Okay, which and I believe it's Cinema con. So that's 1113 00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:15.360 a convention. Yeah, I believe it's. It's five days long, 1114 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.960 and according to their website, it's the largest and most 1115 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:20.760 important gathering of movie theater owners from around the world. 1116 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.079 It was also and still seems to be a pretty 1117 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.400 important event for movie studios as well, who use the 1118 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.840 event to persuade the attending theater owners to book their 1119 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.440 movies because they're going to be huge box office hits 1120 00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:34.800 that you should probably like goett to put them in 1121 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.639 multiple theaters because these movies are gonna be huge. So 1122 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.760 it's basically like from what I understand, they just by 1123 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:43.280 hosting a presentation event that seems like it's similar to 1124 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:44.920 the San Diego Comic Con panels. 1125 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.639 Yeah, the Cinema Con is now a huge source of trailers. Yes, 1126 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:49.920 anay exactly. 1127 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.960 So they show extended trailers or reels from upcoming big releases, 1128 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.239 which I believe sometimes include intros or panels featuring the 1129 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.559 actors that start in the films, like the pictures that 1130 00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.440 are looking at back then had like a bunch of 1131 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.800 like a Sylvester Stallone and Sharon I was gonna say Stone, 1132 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.280 but yeah, I was gonna say Stallone, but yeah, Sharon 1133 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:11.239 Stone is like a bunch of actors. But the Sharon 1134 00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:15.440 s it's still yes she it was her ghost actually, 1135 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.679 But this the one they had this year was what 1136 00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:20.880 I say, it's in. It was in March, I think, 1137 00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.639 but Tom Cruise was there. He had pictures of Leonardo DiCaprio, 1138 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:25.840 like still like a bunch of there was Ryan Gossling 1139 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.519 on stage. I think the Thunderbolts did a panel, okay, 1140 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.880 and Disney is like the only There was an article 1141 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.119 complaining about the fact that Disney is the only one 1142 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:39.039 that live streams it because it's extremely uh exclusive, yes 1143 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:43.280 to the press and the theater owners. So there's treaders 1144 00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.800 that they do sink to drop now like that Nick 1145 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.440 Naked Gun trailer came out. Yeah, Jack, Yes, after a 1146 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.639 debut from that, it's obviously changed a little bit because 1147 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.039 they'll actually drop stairs. But before, like back in ninety three, 1148 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.119 they would see stuff before anybody else. 1149 00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:02.159 Yeah, quick question. You said Tom Cruise was there and 1150 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.159 he had pictures of leonnauto attach. 1151 00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:08.719 No, sorry, there were pictures of the pictures on their 1152 00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:12.400 website of Tom Cruise and Leonardo DiCaprio. Okay, there, Yeah, 1153 00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:16.559 I think pictures of video. 1154 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.519 I don't know either you did or didn't, but that's 1155 00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:21.039 what I heard. 1156 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.280 He was passing out pictures of Leonardo DiCaprio. 1157 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.119 He's just signing it. I don't know what he was saying. 1158 00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.159 Would Tom Cruise sign a picture of Leonardo DiCaprio as 1159 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.679 Tom Cruise or you sign it as Leonardo DiCaprio. 1160 00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.280 I mean, all I can think of his Lenning signing 1161 00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:36.639 his own picture and giving it. 1162 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:41.880 But I okay, this is completely off topic, but if 1163 00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:45.519 you ever got a office shop eron, this has been 1164 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.079 in my brain for twenty years. I am going to 1165 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:53.760 do that, like I've been waiting because picture me and 1166 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.719 it says have a good summer, Joe, And you're gonna 1167 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.320 put that on your fucking desk. 1168 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.400 So you gotta do it. You gotta do it as 1169 00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:06.880 a as like an actual like a headshot though yeah yeah, no, yeah. 1170 00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:09.400 It's gonna be like bad shot. So I'm just saying, 1171 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.239 like I've kept this a secret forever. 1172 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:14.760 I mean, you can do it now and we can 1173 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:18.440 hang it up. I've never had it, no, I know. 1174 00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.119 I'm just trying to think, like I mean, I I 1175 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:21.920 could do yeah. 1176 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:22.880 Yeah, But I think what he's really aiming for is 1177 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.119 the awkward conversations you have. 1178 00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:24.559 To have with you. 1179 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.360 It wouldn't be awkward for me, Like why is this 1180 00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:29.840 for other people? Who's this? 1181 00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:30.119 Okay? 1182 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.880 Why is this forty year old guicing have a good summer? 1183 00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:37.159 That's uh, that's that's Joe. Yeah, I just don't explain 1184 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:37.519 past that. 1185 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:39.119 Uh. 1186 00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.519 But yeah, so it basically it's like comic con, but 1187 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:43.119 like not. 1188 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.960 Yeah, I think the reason a lot of like especially before, 1189 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:48.719 a lot of trailers didn't come out is because they're 1190 00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:50.800 selling the theater owners. It's not like they. 1191 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.679 Wanted exclusive and yeah. 1192 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.760 Yeah, it's it's also not always like trailer trailers. It's 1193 00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.559 always just like clips from the movies. Yeah, probably ship 1194 00:55:58.639 --> 00:55:59.519 that's unfinished. 1195 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:01.599 Yeah, you know, so I'm assuming it's a lot more 1196 00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:03.840 finished now though, because if they're gonna yeah yeah, yeah, 1197 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.719 but yeah, it's a very big event now, but I'm 1198 00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:08.360 pretty sure it was a smaller scale back in the 1199 00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:11.400 day because like even comic Con wasn't always like the 1200 00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.440 big announcement event that it is now, right, which I 1201 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:15.960 guess no would make sense because superhero movies weren't like 1202 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.519 a yeah age thing until like movies were not a 1203 00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:21.679 thing that you got a comic con until like the 1204 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.360 mid two thousands, Like I guess, well, I guess there 1205 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.679 was some stuff earlier than that, but it wasn't that 1206 00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:27.480 was not the point. 1207 00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:30.360 Comic Con really was like just a bunch of comic 1208 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.840 nerds and that's it. It's very around. 1209 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.920 Okay, I was saying, I've went to one comic con 1210 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.920 that was two thousand. I probably mentioned this before on 1211 00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:49.280 the show, but no, Brett and I met san Lee. Hey, 1212 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:49.840 so how's it going? 1213 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.559 Could did you Okay? 1214 00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:58.440 That's a different that's a different story. Yeah, we just 1215 00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:02.920 like cut liners like stand here, like what's this signed for? 1216 00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:07.920 Like Alford Malina. I'm like, hell cool. It was just 1217 00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.559 like handling. I had no idea who that was. I 1218 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:14.159 went out there fucking talked to him like, hey man, 1219 00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.800 big fan. He's like thanks, and he signed a Spider 1220 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:18.320 Man two hat and he like gave it to me. 1221 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:22.199 I'm like cool. I'm like, I have no idea what 1222 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:23.159 this guy is. 1223 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:25.159 Oh, oh, you mean like a baseball cap that says 1224 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.400 Spider Man two. I thought you meant you got doc 1225 00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:29.679 Ox Fedora signed. 1226 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.920 No, he was just like sign and ship or whatever. 1227 00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:36.039 I didn't know who he was. 1228 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.320 Like your story was like, yeah, we just walked in 1229 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:41.760 front of somebody and like, what are they gonna do? Nerds? 1230 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.280 They did that and that was the other thing. We 1231 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.559 did that in another line too, and they're like, oh, 1232 00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.239 it's for the Hobbits or whatever, like cool, and it 1233 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.599 was like Elijah Wood and fucking Sam No, no, no, 1234 00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.800 Sean Aston and everything, and like everybody kept like pushing 1235 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:03.960 towards the front and those fuckers like like Elijah Wood 1236 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.960 and kicking Sean Aston. They got they got fucking Sarah. 1237 00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.119 They like left and they were like running and motherfuckers 1238 00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:11.559 were chasing him. Jesus Christ. They were like, we got 1239 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.440 to get away from these nerds. 1240 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.800 Yeah, the Simpsons buy mo on Sci Fiicon. 1241 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:18.599 It's like the Simpsons. 1242 00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.639 Yeah with Luke Skywalker exactly. 1243 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.679 Yeah, right here, never mind, Hey, wait, I thought you 1244 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:27.760 was hurt. 1245 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.000 I think about that is. 1246 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.960 But yeah, you got you got patus. But I think 1247 00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.280 that was like right on the cusp of being like 1248 00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:43.559 comic like comics. Yeah, con and then wait, what are 1249 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:44.320 they doing everything? 1250 00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.119 So were they doing the panels and stuff? 1251 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.039 Obviously they were so like. But the thing is about 1252 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.480 hall H. Hall H is like the big, big hall 1253 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:53.920 and that's where they do all the huge, huge movie 1254 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.079 releases now but back in the day, there weren't that 1255 00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.199 many huge movie releases, so you might get one or 1256 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.199 two of those like nowadays. If you go to hall H, 1257 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:06.800 Warner Brothers will do a presentation. They'll they'll do like 1258 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.920 two comic book movies and then they'll just give you 1259 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:11.159 a bunch of other ship like a bunch of their 1260 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:15.119 other big summer blockbusters. Yeah, like like I saw the 1261 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.480 mad Max Fury road trailer there. I saw trailers for 1262 00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.960 a bunch of horror movies when I was in there. Yeah, 1263 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:26.559 just you know, it's just studios unloading. Yeah, exactly. But 1264 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:28.280 back in the day, it's like there was one or 1265 00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.280 two really big panels and then it was just a 1266 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.400 bunch of you know, bullshit. It was just a bunch 1267 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:33.519 of it. 1268 00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:35.119 I don't remember the one time we went. 1269 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.960 I don't remember any panels that obviously, right, so that 1270 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.199 would have been like Yeah. 1271 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.079 Also you have to like plan to go to the panels. 1272 00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.480 They're not just happening on the on the con floor, 1273 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:46.960 so you have to like you have to like get 1274 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.840 in lines. Yeah, yeah, for hall h you have to, 1275 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:54.840 like at least when I was going lines. Yeah, clearly apparently. 1276 00:59:54.760 --> 01:00:01.800 Clearly the way it was a total diigmad It was 1277 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.239 a total big move by me, But it was just. 1278 01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.880 So somebody didn't get to see Elijah Wood and Seawan 1279 01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:08.199 asked and run away because of you. 1280 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:11.960 I just like walked up there. I was like I'm 1281 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:13.760 standing there and I was like cool. 1282 01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.599 It's one last person who got to meet Alfred Molina 1283 01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:18.000 of Frieda. 1284 01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:20.159 You know, I had that fucking spider Man two hat 1285 01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:21.559 signman for a long time. 1286 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:26.039 Somehow it got center yeah at the Big House. 1287 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.559 Somehow it got very moldy, and eventually at some point, 1288 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.880 like the mold took over the bill which she signed out, 1289 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:35.480 and I'm like, this is kind of useless now and 1290 01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.960 I think I just chucked it. 1291 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:39.719 It's so weird. 1292 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.880 So that's my Alfred show. Hey Alfred, if you're listening, 1293 01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:47.599 christ well, thank you. Second of all, you know, get 1294 01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.280 on the show. Maybe you give me another hat. I 1295 01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.440 know who you are now, I'm a big fan. Now 1296 01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:54.880 I was lying in two thousand day, but in twenty 1297 01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:55.679 twenty five. 1298 01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:57.239 I know that's no reason to give me a moldy 1299 01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:58.480 hat exactly. 1300 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:02.440 Anyways, back on there. 1301 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.760 Okay, So yeah, so show Wes nineteen ninety three was 1302 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:08.360 held at Bally's Las Vegas, which I thought, you'm a 1303 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.480 total fitness Yeah, well there's got to be a gym 1304 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.719 in there somewhere, Like it's the same company, right. 1305 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:16.719 I think you're right. I'm not. 1306 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:18.599 I don't know, or it was the same company. No, 1307 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.360 I don't know. I think this seems like I swear. 1308 01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:21.679 Yeah. 1309 01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:25.760 Anyway, Well there's also the pinball company Bally's. 1310 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:27.480 Just I don't know anything about that. 1311 01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:31.480 Yeah, anyway, So Columbia hosted a luncheon because that's what 1312 01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:33.800 they did back then. They did luncheons, So that's what's 1313 01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:35.119 what I'm saying, Like, I don't think it was nearly 1314 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:38.039 as big. So Columbia hosted a luncheon that included Arnold 1315 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.599 intowing a four minute Last Action YEARLD trailer, and then 1316 01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:44.000 the Columbia execs hyping it up, saying it's more than 1317 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.840 just a movie, it's the epitome of a film for 1318 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:52.360 the entire global marketplace, which damn, yeah whatever, But yeah, 1319 01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.679 the luncheon part is also why I think it was 1320 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.119 like a smaller film, which whatever. At least they're consistent 1321 01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:04.039 with their praise, I guess. Anyway, there were two reasons 1322 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:05.760 that brought this up to convention. One has to do 1323 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:08.079 with the impact on theaters when it was released, which 1324 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.280 we'll end up talking about later, which actually forgot to include. 1325 01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.599 We'll get back to it anyway. But the other is 1326 01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:19.679 how Universal handled their presentation of Jurassic Park, which was 1327 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.920 basically the complete opposite approach that comb from the way 1328 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:26.639 Columbia presented last section Hero. So from what I found, 1329 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.400 it seems like Jurassic Park wasn't announced as part of 1330 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.679 Show West, even though Universal did end up holding an 1331 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:37.199 event for it. So according to the Chicago Tribune, sorry, so, 1332 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.480 according to a Chicago Tribune article, instead of holding a luncheon, 1333 01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.639 which I believe was like, like the was anyone can 1334 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:46.360 attend those? Like that was okay? Yeah, instead of it 1335 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:50.280 holding a luncheon, apparently, Universal rented out one of Bally's 1336 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.800 suites where they hosted a jungle themed invite only screening 1337 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.039 shindig of the Jurassic Park trailer for about one hundred exhibitors, 1338 01:02:57.480 --> 01:02:59.360 which I'm assuming we're the owners of, like the big 1339 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:03.400 theater chain. Yeah, and Universe Will reportedly accomplished two things 1340 01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.280 by doing this. One was generating positive buzz for the 1341 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.679 trailer while also alienating pretty much anyone not invited to 1342 01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.920 the screening, which I'm sure Universe was like, so and yeah, 1343 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:18.599 what are they gonna do with not show Jurassic Park? Okay, hey, yeah, 1344 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.199 I want you to understand, but it's like it's just weird, 1345 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.440 Like if I'm interesting, how Universal can You continues to 1346 01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:26.280 show how confident they are that the Jurassic Park is 1347 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:28.840 going to be successful without resorting to any of like 1348 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.320 the boastful bullshit that Co of Columbia was pulling with 1349 01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.519 Last Second Hero, Like confident enough to whard they're actually 1350 01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.199 excluding potential theater owners from trailer screenings because they know 1351 01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:39.239 they're going to book the movie. 1352 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:41.199 Yeah, of course they're not going to have any choice. 1353 01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:43.960 You're just they want to make movie. Sorry, if they 1354 01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:46.000 want to make money during the summer, they're gonna have 1355 01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:47.440 to play our movie exactly. 1356 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.239 So again, it just ruins me that that mad Men 1357 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:53.599 meme taking that wrong way. But still like, I don't 1358 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.360 think about you it all, dude, Like yeah, So moving on, 1359 01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.639 filming wraps on Last Section Hero either April first, April third, 1360 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.119 depending on the source, which as I believe that I 1361 01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:06.000 mentioned before, or which left ten weeks for post production 1362 01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:08.119 instead of the average And I think it was like 1363 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.519 according to Google search, was like six months like anywhere 1364 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:15.760 with tween weeks. Yeah, so ten weeks what uh and 1365 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.480 a half? Two and a half months. Yeah. In order 1366 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.719 to do this, the post production team ended up working 1367 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:26.239 six eighteen hour days per week, for ten goddamn weeks Jesus, 1368 01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:27.960 which I was gonna say was insane, but then it 1369 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.039 made me curious, like, do you guys think that this 1370 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.679 consisted of different shifts that didn't stop for eighteen hours, 1371 01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:35.400 or is it like did each individual person have working 1372 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.239 eighteen hour shifts six days a week, because, like, each 1373 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:40.280 person working eighteen hour shifts six days a week is 1374 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:42.679 fucking crazy, especially when you consider the time it takes 1375 01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:45.360 to wind down after a shift. And I'm curious if, like, 1376 01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.079 although I'm curious if like these like after working a 1377 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:49.840 week of these shifts, you're so tired that it's like 1378 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:51.639 there's no wind down, Like it's just you just fall 1379 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:52.559 fucking asleep. 1380 01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:54.920 Yeah, Like I. 1381 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:56.719 Don't know, Like there's no way that they wouldn't mention 1382 01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:58.239 if it was like, yeah, they were working like it 1383 01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.119 was an eighteen hour overall shift. No, it was different people. 1384 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:06.280 And I think people in film. 1385 01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.400 It's like working in The Men in Black, Yeah exactly. 1386 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.280 No, I think people in film are used to working 1387 01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.840 like that because film is kind of feast or famine. Right, 1388 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.719 you're either working on a movie or you're not. Yeah, 1389 01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:17.760 if you're not working on a movie, you're doing nothing 1390 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.239 and making up the time exactly. 1391 01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:23.280 Working on the movie but uh so yeah. In order 1392 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.519 in order to relieve stress, Columbia reportedly hired an in 1393 01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.559 house messus, which just reminded me of like the half 1394 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.880 assed gestures that they pull out restaurants when they're trying 1395 01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:35.159 to They're like, you know, you're working on Christmas, even 1396 01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:36.920 though you requested it off. But it's okay because we 1397 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.719 bought you guys costco pizza, because. 1398 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.400 We allowed you guys to have a pot luck in 1399 01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:42.960 the break. 1400 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:46.840 Crew exactly, it only costs us nine dollars, Like yeah, but. 1401 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.079 We like, you can't use any of ourse civil rhythm 1402 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.039 yeahs money to actually wash whoa. 1403 01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:57.519 You know you're not supposed to drinking soda, okay, Jesus, 1404 01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.760 isn't that like I don't we're allowed to open the 1405 01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:05.119 apple juice is at the restaurant Erica. I don't know, 1406 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:07.000 something like that, but the apple just were like actually 1407 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:08.880 like tree top apple juices that you would have to like, 1408 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:09.480 you know, like. 1409 01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:12.159 Martin Elly. 1410 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.920 They got upset about the waters with somebody one time too, 1411 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.239 and I was like, it's the sawny nobody wants to drink. 1412 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:20.400 You'd rather drink the tap. 1413 01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.119 Yeah, drinking because I'm desperate, right, Like I quickly looked 1414 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:25.440 it up. 1415 01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:32.519 Bally's, Bally Total Fitness, Bally's Slash Midway, the Pinball Company, 1416 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:37.039 and Bally's Betting are all kind of related. They've all 1417 01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:40.400 been kind of uh, exchange hands over and over and over, 1418 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:44.559 but they're not like separate like like other. 1419 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:47.719 It's not the same company though. 1420 01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:52.639 It's not, but they're all It's like, uh, it. 1421 01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.679 Might be a situation where one company was split into 1422 01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:57.119 three parts, like three. 1423 01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.840 Divisions, not necessarily that. It's kind of like, you know 1424 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.760 a couple of people who'se L his name is Smith. 1425 01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.960 Okay, you know, like they're related. 1426 01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:07.480 It doesn't mean his father and son. 1427 01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:07.760 You know. 1428 01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:10.440 It's like I see, okay, gotcha. 1429 01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.360 Anyways, So, for some for some reason, about halfway through 1430 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.559 post production, Columbia Pictures, specifically Mark Canton, watched the movie 1431 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:20.400 and decided that even though they hadn't finished the film's score, 1432 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.039 or finished the special effects for the action scenes or 1433 01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:25.199 finished dubbing it yet, which made a lot of the 1434 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:30.360 dialogue impossible to understand, despite all that, Mark cann was like, Hey, 1435 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:34.400 let's have a test screening. Like it was so unfinished 1436 01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:38.039 that even Arnold later admitted that the movie was quote 1437 01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:40.280 shown in the roughest form I've ever seen a movie 1438 01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:43.519 screen Jesus. So they were really setting themselves up for 1439 01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:47.079 success on that one. Yeah, yeah, so on May. 1440 01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:49.760 First, the worst version of this movie you could possibly see? 1441 01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:50.719 What are your notes? 1442 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.400 So on me? On May first, nineteen ninety three, they 1443 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:57.599 held a screening just north of Long Beach in Lakewood, California, 1444 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.719 and in addition to John McK tiernan and Arnold, Columbia's 1445 01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.480 top executives were also in attendance. A research firm filled 1446 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.880 the one thousand seat theater, which is that is that 1447 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:08.679 a gigantic theater. 1448 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:09.400 That's a big theater. 1449 01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:12.320 I think that's like a that's like that iMX theater. 1450 01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.519 That's got to be close to Yeah, I think so Okay, Yeah, 1451 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:17.239 they filled it with an audience that was unaware of 1452 01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:18.960 what film they'd be watching, which I'm pretty sure is 1453 01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.359 how it always works with test audiences, right, Like, yeah. 1454 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:23.000 I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to know an advantage. 1455 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:24.279 Yeah, Like I sent up for a thing where you 1456 01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:25.800 can be a part of a test audience and the 1457 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:27.800 only info they give you before him is what type 1458 01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.720 of movie it's going to be, and I think maybe 1459 01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:32.279 the potential rating, like I know, if it ended up 1460 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:35.399 going to Wicked, but I think she first she's like, 1461 01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:37.159 I don't know if it's gonna be Wicked or movefasa. 1462 01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.319 So it was just like family movie, yeah or whatever. 1463 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.920 Yeah, I did that at SS State in like two 1464 01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:46.880 thousand and six, and it was like a kind of 1465 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:52.520 it was like an American idol type thing. I don't know, 1466 01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:54.520 I don't remember. It was like a I mean, this 1467 01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:55.960 is nineteen years ago. I don't remember. It was like 1468 01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.880 a satire on it or like a trying to capitalize. 1469 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:04.359 Wait, like, oh, you mean the movie was about like 1470 01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:08.319 an American idol context. So I remember what was that called. 1471 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:10.359 I have no idea what you guys are talking about. 1472 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:13.760 There was, yeah, but that that see that might have 1473 01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:16.000 been a different or it just came out many years later. 1474 01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:17.479 I don't know. I'll have to look it up. But 1475 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:21.920 there was like there was one with fucking Andy Samberg 1476 01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:23.199 that came out like a couple. 1477 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:26.680 Oh that was with it was a top star not 1478 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:27.159 pop star? 1479 01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:33.199 Was it was not that the comedy the hot Rod movie, yes, 1480 01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.239 Hot Rods, the Hot Red movie yes, No, is that 1481 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:37.800 what it's called? Hot Rod? Hot Rod? 1482 01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:40.399 Yes, I have seen that. I heard it's good too. 1483 01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:42.000 No, it was. 1484 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.239 It wasn't one of those. It was something else. 1485 01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:48.600 That other stuff is an Andy Samberg movie. 1486 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:52.960 No, I'm saying it is not the Andy Samberg So. 1487 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.159 It was kind of like pop Star, but it wasn't Pop. 1488 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:59.680 America exactly American Dream that I was thinking, I'm sorry 1489 01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:00.560 that come out. 1490 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:05.079 That was two thousand and six, April two thousand and six. 1491 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:06.600 Okay, then it was probably that. 1492 01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:08.079 Yeah, good movie. 1493 01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:11.600 Huh. I've never seen it, obviously, I can remember that 1494 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.199 I've seen it, and I watched test screen and it 1495 01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:18.039 was so you gave it up? Eh? I mean, did 1496 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:19.279 you scorecards? 1497 01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:22.680 I don't remember. This was nineteen years ago. They're barking 1498 01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:26.760 up the wrong fucking bush like a bunch of fucking 1499 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:31.640 like early twenties, jaded, fucking San Francisco State kids are 1500 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:33.159 not going to go fuck about that movie. 1501 01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:33.960 Yeah. 1502 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.880 Anyway, According to the Nancy Griffith Bookitt and Run, the 1503 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:39.720 test audience started hooting and hollering with excitement once it 1504 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.279 was announced that they'd be watching armed Schwarzenegger movie. Unfortunately, 1505 01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.680 the excitement didn't last long once, they wouldn't say exactly 1506 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:48.479 how incomplete the movie was, with the book saying that 1507 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.159 the audience started becoming bored about halfway through it, and 1508 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:53.520 by the third act, when Danny and Slater cross over 1509 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.319 into the real real world, the audience was basically sitting 1510 01:10:56.359 --> 01:11:00.439 there in a catatonic state Jesus, with one person later saying, quote, 1511 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:03.920 the movie lay there like a big fried egg unquote, 1512 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.960 And I know that's supposed to be like it sounds 1513 01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:07.239 like it's not supposed to be a good thing. But 1514 01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:10.479 I love like Fridays, Like you get a couple of 1515 01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:12.960 slices of toast, some hash brands pole with a hot sauce. 1516 01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.439 Baby got a breakfast going like sounds good to me. 1517 01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.079 But I get that's not supposed to be good, like 1518 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:19.880 a big fried egg. 1519 01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:20.920 I don't know. 1520 01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:22.399 I don't know because. 1521 01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.199 I'm like a Friday egg. What did you add it to? 1522 01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:27.520 Because when you said you had Friday, like I had 1523 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:29.319 a Friday this morning, I was like, oh that sounds yeah. 1524 01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:32.359 You just you just you just took me back to 1525 01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.039 breakfast right now, and I was like, oh, that was 1526 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:34.840 a good breakfast. 1527 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:37.720 I mean shit, I can't wait till Laura fucking heres 1528 01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:40.800 this episode, because good lord, that woman has been obsessed 1529 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.960 with that's my wife obsessed with eggs recently. Like it's 1530 01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:46.800 a whole thing where I'm like, I'm going to the store, 1531 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:52.119 don't fucking don't say it, don't fucking say it, get eggs, 1532 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.039 and I buy eggs and then like three days later, 1533 01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:57.760 I'm like an egg they're all fucking higher bolt or eating. 1534 01:11:58.479 --> 01:11:59.960 That woman's just obsessed with eggs now. 1535 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:02.680 It's all where she's just like hard boiling them then 1536 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:03.359 like eating them. 1537 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:06.439 Well okay, ship, Well she's very so she doesn't heart 1538 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:10.760 boil them. It's medium boiled at best, but she's just like. 1539 01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:14.479 Wait medium, how does that does it leave? Like the 1540 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:15.880 egg run? Right? 1541 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.640 Yeah, the oak's a little running, so it's good in 1542 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:22.159 like ramin and stuff. But okay, that woman's just been 1543 01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.560 fucking obsessed with eggs like the last like three months. 1544 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:32.199 Of course that's when the prices go up. So I marry. 1545 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.880 There's a song from Lamb before Time too that I 1546 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:35.520 gotta send you. 1547 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:40.079 Is like, yeah, forbidden Fruit. 1548 01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:41.720 It's just about eggs. 1549 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.520 So it's okay, do you guys do like eggs salad? 1550 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:46.079 Because I like eggs salad. 1551 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.319 No, Chris, No, I like eggs pretty much. 1552 01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:53.760 Every way, but your head down to your legs. That 1553 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:54.920 was the something from the nineties. 1554 01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:55.279 I don't know. 1555 01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:59.079 Good it's stupids it your head down to your legs. 1556 01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:01.279 I like eggs from my head down. 1557 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.159 To my legs, all right. 1558 01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:07.239 No, anyway, speaking of eggs, I had a conversation yesterday. 1559 01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:11.479 My friend was drinking some water and then started choking. 1560 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.760 I'm like, yeah, who's fucking dumb? This is why God 1561 01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.439 doesn't exist, because like, uh, you know, whose fucking idea 1562 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.359 was to have like the the drinking hole in the 1563 01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:24.399 breathing hole in the same place in your throat? And 1564 01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:27.039 he was like, yeah, I saw some like TikTok of like, 1565 01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:29.600 uh you know whose idea was to have the balls 1566 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:33.359 on the outside. And I'm like, yeah, that's dumb. It's 1567 01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:37.159 like elephants don't have that. I'm like, yeah, but elephants could, 1568 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.840 like they have a trunk, they could just like go 1569 01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.840 and like suck their own balls with their trunk. So 1570 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.319 why so maybe that is a proof of God. Maybe 1571 01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:49.560 God doesn't want you to fucking suck your own balls 1572 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:51.880 because elephants gonulna be doing all day. But their balls 1573 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.960 are on the inside, so it kind of it kind 1574 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:55.760 of shook my world. 1575 01:13:56.800 --> 01:14:01.039 That's that line from Forgetting Sarah Marshall. It's a dogs, No, 1576 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:04.319 it's Jack McBrayer is having trouble having sex with his 1577 01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:07.039 wife on their honeymoon, and he's like, I just don't 1578 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:11.640 understand why God would put a playground next to a sanitation. 1579 01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:16.199 Dump or something. Well that the whole thing with that 1580 01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:21.880 makes like anytime anyone mentions evolution for some reason, my 1581 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.279 mind goes to, like, yeah, that makes sense because like 1582 01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:28.199 your butthole is like exactly the way it should be 1583 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:31.680 because like imagine like it has to be exactly that 1584 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.319 tight but exactly able to do what it does, because 1585 01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:36.279 otherwise you'd have to buy a plug. 1586 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.079 For it, because they'd be like we're gonna start thinking, 1587 01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:41.119 like they'd be this whole industry of like plugs that 1588 01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:42.520 you have to buy, like, oh, I just bought a 1589 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:44.800 plug like for it, like check out this new plug 1590 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:46.760 that I got, the new plug or whatever. 1591 01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:51.279 Just like because it's not tight enough. So like like 1592 01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:53.359 it's the weirdest thing because every time I think it, 1593 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:55.159 then I started thinking about, like, man, what you don't 1594 01:14:55.199 --> 01:15:00.600 tell people this? It is fucking weird. Don't tell people this, well, 1595 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:01.880 I will tell you this. 1596 01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:06.079 You've never been in the dead sea, because. 1597 01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:07.560 I don't know what that means. 1598 01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:12.279 You're in there, you you're pure clenched that whole time 1599 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:16.319 because that salt water will get into your buttle super fast. 1600 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.960 Wait, so really you can you does it just hurt? 1601 01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:23.279 It just it's just it like you know, the ocean, 1602 01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.960 the ocean salty, like the ocean salty, but fucking dead 1603 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:32.159 sea is like fucking the ocean's a little bitch like 1604 01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:35.640 float yeah, super EASi, so much like I don't think 1605 01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:39.079 anybody's ever drowned in the dead sea before because like 1606 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:43.600 I don't think that's possible because it's fucking super salty. 1607 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:47.199 But you have to like clench your. 1608 01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:49.640 You're just saying, the salt gets everywhere. 1609 01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:55.039 Yeah, it's coarse, it's but yeah, I'm just saying like 1610 01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:58.880 I'm just saying, like you're living your life. You're like, 1611 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:00.960 you don't have to worry about everything getting in there. 1612 01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.720 You don't need to worry about the best loose butthole 1613 01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:05.920 line exactly. But then you go on the dead sea, 1614 01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:08.039 You're like, fuck, maybe I do need a butt plug. 1615 01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:12.119 I mean not for the usual reasons people need butt plugs. Yeah, 1616 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:16.439 I should do cake, yeah, shit, saying it's it's rough 1617 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:16.960 out there, man. 1618 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.520 So another audience member reportedly said quote, I don't want 1619 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.640 to see arm being dragged down to where he's helpless 1620 01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.720 like that. He's standing there talking about the boys father's 1621 01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:32.960 death and the rain. It's very upsetting. And I suppose 1622 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.000 I guess we have heard it. Thank for that scene 1623 01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:37.560 being cut that we watched, although I yes, like I 1624 01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:39.319 think I said it before, but that scenees just what 1625 01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:41.680 has slowed the pace of the film way down. Yeah, 1626 01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:43.399 and I'd love to give you guys more a few 1627 01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:47.399 more reviews, but unfortunately, in an attempt to prevent low 1628 01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.800 test scores from leaking to the press, Mark Kinton had 1629 01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:54.199 the audience report cards collected before the research company could 1630 01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:56.199 get them, and then later had them. 1631 01:16:56.039 --> 01:17:01.600 Shredded and then barry in the desert next to ET's 1632 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.319 all those et video games. 1633 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.359 So, in addition to not wanting the scores leaked, Ken 1634 01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.279 also did this in order to prevent Schwarzenegger or McTiernan 1635 01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:12.199 from finding out about them due to their already tight schedule, 1636 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.319 later explaining saying like quote, I didn't want the director 1637 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.039 who had literally literally been working eighteen hour days or 1638 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:21.640 and our star to come up with fourty more ideas 1639 01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:24.600 that would take three weeks. We didn't have three weeks. 1640 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:25.840 So when did the Shredder? 1641 01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:31.680 They went, yeah, Mark, Mark Kenton's the reason this movie. 1642 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:34.560 Like what you were saying, like what was earlier? Like 1643 01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:38.680 a guy that like I don't know anyway, So after 1644 01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:41.479 the screening, Arnold mc ternan and the Columbia executives ended 1645 01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:44.920 up having an emergency meeting at Shatzi on his restaurant. 1646 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.840 Of course, they all agreed that the reshoots needed to 1647 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:49.760 be done for the third act, but according to the book, 1648 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:52.640 it was understandably tough to judge what did and didn't 1649 01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:55.199 work because the movie had been shown in such a 1650 01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:59.680 rough form, which is what I don't understand about doing 1651 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:02.279 the whole thing. But okay, anyway, when we finished the meeting, 1652 01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:04.720 thing real fast before I start pitching about stuff. But 1653 01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:08.399 so yeah, before the meeting ended, Schwarzenegger McTiernan once again 1654 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.159 brought up the possibility of pushing back the release date 1655 01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:13.760 in order to allow for like proper time for reshoots 1656 01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:15.880 and any any sort of like fine tuning that the 1657 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:19.680 movie might need. Of course, Can once again shot them down, 1658 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:23.560 saying that postponing the release date would make it seem 1659 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.560 like the film was in trouble, with John mcinernan later 1660 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:28.600 saying of the studio's decision to stick with the June 1661 01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:31.880 eighteenth release date, quote, the studio folks assured us that 1662 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.399 the movie was more likely to make money this way, 1663 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:36.560 that the amount of money that the studio would see 1664 01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.439 would decrease by ten million per week for each week 1665 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:41.560 of the summer that you cut off. I'm not about 1666 01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.119 to argue with things like that, unquote. And yeah, so 1667 01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:47.680 like you can definitely start to understand like why he's like, yeah, 1668 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:50.680 like this is never happening again. Yeah, fucking bug him, 1669 01:18:50.920 --> 01:18:53.920 bug him like with roller Wall, because like he just 1670 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.319 I don't know it. And something that sucks is that 1671 01:18:57.479 --> 01:18:59.159 just a lot of it gets put on him and 1672 01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:00.920 I don't know. But anyway, So the thing I don't 1673 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:02.960 understand about all this is like, what was the point 1674 01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:05.640 of having the test screening then, because there obviously wasn't 1675 01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:07.199 enough time to really do any of the stuff that 1676 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:10.159 you might usually do as a result of a poor 1677 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:12.680 test screening, Like the only thing I could think of 1678 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:16.479 is that Mark Canton was just like that delusional about 1679 01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:18.920 how like about showing like a super rough cut of 1680 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:21.880 the film would go Yeah, Like maybe he was just 1681 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.680 like a like completely confident that it would go well 1682 01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:28.520 and was then counting on that to generate positive like 1683 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.359 word of mouth basically about the movie. 1684 01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:33.880 I don't know, maybe where they. 1685 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:35.960 Were running out of that, like they're running out of 1686 01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:37.079 time to get it done and. 1687 01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:38.920 Just but there's no point of doing like to doing 1688 01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:39.720 to do a. 1689 01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:42.560 Help test s green it helps them decide on cutting. 1690 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.479 No, it doesn't because you can't do anything about it. 1691 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:48.960 Though he wanted his biases confirmed, like that's what he wanted, 1692 01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:52.119 that it was good. Yeah, exactly, but he wanted to 1693 01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:54.880 hear from a bunch of people. He needs his ego stroked. 1694 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.079 And it's been too long since I get that, Like, 1695 01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:01.520 like I would get the cutting thing, but like you 1696 01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.720 can cut little tiny stuff, but like the stuff that 1697 01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:06.000 they were seeing was a whole third act thing. I 1698 01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:08.039 don't know, Like you already know the media is gunning 1699 01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:10.359 for your movie. Why would you show a version of 1700 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:12.800 it that's so unfinished that people can't understand the dialogue? 1701 01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:14.600 Like it's just a movie full of bane from the 1702 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:16.039 Dark Knight Rises just like. 1703 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.720 Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sorry, you just got me upset. 1704 01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:24.479 Like Chris, I'm seriously starting to think like Mark Canton 1705 01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.079 had only seen he's only seen six movies before last year, 1706 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.319 that might actually be true. It's just this the Bonfard 1707 01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.760 of the Vanities and like the first four places Academy movies, 1708 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:36.840 and that's it, that's always seen. Yeah, I don't know, 1709 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:38.960 Like almost every choice of the studio made for this 1710 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.600 movie is just fucking baffling to me. 1711 01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:44.079 Yeah that yes, I. 1712 01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:47.600 Mean it is like I I was alive and I 1713 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:50.640 was a Schwarzenegger fan back then, but I was a child. 1714 01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:55.640 I didn't understand like studios and white things are bombs 1715 01:20:55.680 --> 01:20:58.880 and everything, and like as I've discussed spending many times 1716 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:01.960 in this talking about this movie, and other times I'm 1717 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:04.279 just like I just don't get it. I don't know 1718 01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:07.920 why this wasn't the ship because it's the ship. Yeah, 1719 01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:11.640 But now like I'm I'm realizing this fucking Mark Head 1720 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.279 and guy in the studio interference is just like totally 1721 01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:18.880 kind of fucking everything up and a joke out of it, 1722 01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:21.439 and it's like it's already a joke. The whole fucking 1723 01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:22.520 movie is a joke. 1724 01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:23.600 You don't need to make. 1725 01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:24.840 A joke out of a joke. 1726 01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:27.439 You know, it's not even I just figured. 1727 01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:29.680 I just figured the audience like I was like, man, 1728 01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.159 everybody was just stupid in nineteen ninety three, like they 1729 01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:32.960 just didn't get it. 1730 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:39.680 Well yeah, well no, true. I mean technically, Samruanci Sisti. 1731 01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:43.960 Professor, like Erica didn't mean to like cut you off 1732 01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:45.680 with what you were saying. As far as like that, no, no, 1733 01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.319 as far as like the test screen, like you do 1734 01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:50.840 usually do that, but when you put it out in 1735 01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:53.159 that rough of a form, it's, like the book was saying, 1736 01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:55.439 it's fucking hard. You can't tell what doesn't work. 1737 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:57.680 So like if you're like also, you know, you're still 1738 01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:59.760 gonna make a bunch of changes to it, like again 1739 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:00.600 to the point, I. 1740 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.239 Don't know, because that's what you usually do, you uh. 1741 01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:06.279 What ic was saying, you fix the stuff that they're 1742 01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:08.159 not laughing at. But if they can't understand the dialogue, 1743 01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.039 they're not laughing. But the book even said like they 1744 01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:11.960 were still kind of optimistic about it. So once we 1745 01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:13.800 fix the dialog a little bit and whatever, like the 1746 01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.520 jokes will start landing, which I'm sure was true. Yeah, 1747 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:18.720 but still, like, what was the fucking point of the 1748 01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:20.439 of the I don't know, no clue. 1749 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:23.000 Yeah, that's like when you show you don't show it 1750 01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:26.479 to a test outings, you show it to other like, uh, 1751 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:28.640 people in your industry. 1752 01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:29.039 I don't know. 1753 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:32.880 It's like your fucking fifteen minute county sketch. You know, 1754 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:36.920 you're fucking like your song or whatever. You're like, oh, 1755 01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:38.520 you know it would be tight if you added like 1756 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.319 a banjo here or whatever like that. That's the shit 1757 01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:44.720 that you need. You know, you don't want to like 1758 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:48.479 like it, Go find your favorite band and go like 1759 01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:53.159 on fucking YouTube or YouTube music or Spotify and listen 1760 01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:55.800 to like rough Cut, like even the that was like yeah, 1761 01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.319 the rough Cut shit, and you're like, or the fucking 1762 01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:01.640 demo like this sounds like dog. 1763 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.680 Listen to some like the the biggest one I can 1764 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:07.439 think of off dub my head is, uh want the 1765 01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:09.439 Spice girls want to be listen to the demo of that. 1766 01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:12.640 It sounds like shit. I mean I don't know that, but. 1767 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.680 Well no, it's it's it doesn't have I was reading 1768 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:17.640 about it and that's all I know. Like the last 1769 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.760 person that tweeked it put the like the hook into it. 1770 01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:24.000 So if you listen to an old demo of it, 1771 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.359 it's just like the song is like it's not it 1772 01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:29.279 wouldn't have yeah anyway, Okay, So of course the media 1773 01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:31.920 finds out about the screening, with Variety reporting a few 1774 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.920 days later that Columbia marketing guru said Gainess said that 1775 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:39.520 the audience reaction was absolutely sensational, adding quote, we now 1776 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.039 know that last section Hero is not only on target 1777 01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.920 for opening day, but also that it's headed towards bullseye unquote. 1778 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:48.920 So yeah, they've decided to lie about it, and that 1779 01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:51.279 makes sense whatever, Like, if you don't want anyone thinking 1780 01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:54.079 that the movie's in trouble, well, if they're gonna lie 1781 01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:55.760 about how the screening went, they might as well keep 1782 01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:58.720 it up when asked about the audience test numbers. You're right, Like, 1783 01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:02.520 as long as the lies that they make are somewhat believable, 1784 01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.800 no one should catch on, right exactly. Yeah, well that 1785 01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:08.000 might have worked, but unfortunately they talked to Mark Canton. 1786 01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:13.199 He did them no favors, but obviously lying when asked 1787 01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:15.119 about the audience numbers of the test screen. Does anyone 1788 01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:17.319 want to take a guest as to like, what kind 1789 01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:19.199 of lie he told? How he lied about it? 1790 01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:22.720 It was so good. Everyone in the theater died. They 1791 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:25.439 just all died. They all had heart attacks. 1792 01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.960 Okay, so we didn't get scores from everybody, but the 1793 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:35.119 scores we got were very high because he's a partial 1794 01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:40.399 lush because what sty scores? It was a count thing. 1795 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:43.560 That's that's actually kind of close, Joe, Joe are very close. 1796 01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.800 Good on you, Joe, thinking like a white color criminal. 1797 01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:51.520 Okay, so the official word from Columbia slash Canton where 1798 01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:54.399 there there were no numbers, man, no numbers. They didn't 1799 01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:56.800 actually click any because apparently they hailed a test screen 1800 01:24:56.920 --> 01:24:59.600 just for funzies. Yep, they't colick numbers. There were no 1801 01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:05.840 numbers at all. We don't believe in scores. Didn't collect numbers. 1802 01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:09.800 Score cards working for the movie name. 1803 01:25:10.279 --> 01:25:12.239 That's what I'm saying. Like Joe got closest because I 1804 01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:16.199 was like, it's actually kind of close. Didn't collect any numbers. 1805 01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:19.439 When asked by Entertainment wikly. 1806 01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:21.079 About it, they tried to hand it to us, but 1807 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:22.319 they fell right in the trash. 1808 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:23.479 It was our fault. 1809 01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:30.359 We had guys with Cyril PARSI harzy, they couldn't fucking 1810 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:32.760 rip it. You know, we're out here, reach out of 1811 01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.159 the community, and shit not our fault. 1812 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:40.840 When when asked by Entertainment Weekly about it, Canton told them, quote, 1813 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:43.920 the truth is, I purposely had no screen numbers done. 1814 01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:46.399 I had my assistants take the cards, file the cards, 1815 01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:49.119 and never add them up. It's the same thing we 1816 01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:51.479 did with Batman at Warrener Brothers. Because I knew that 1817 01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:53.439 even if we scored a ninety, someone would say it 1818 01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:55.520 was a ten. And sure enough I heard Action Hero 1819 01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:57.479 was seventy eight, or it was forty eight, or it 1820 01:25:57.520 --> 01:25:59.119 was thirty eight. So I kind of laugh when I 1821 01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:01.560 hear the numbers. It is the ultimate irony of how 1822 01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:05.560 low people will go. We'll go unquote and holy fucking 1823 01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:08.399 fucking he like, how does this motherfucker? Like how did 1824 01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:11.520 he get as high as he did? The holy fuck Like, 1825 01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:14.239 how the hell do you think anyone's gonna believe that? 1826 01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:19.600 So Mark Canton, Yes, Mark Canton, which he just didn't 1827 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:21.840 even end his career at Columbia. He was there for 1828 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:24.119 another few years and then getting fired and he moved 1829 01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:25.840 to somewhere else in like of course, oh. 1830 01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:27.239 Yeah, they always get a job again. 1831 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:31.399 So reshoots begin in early May nineteen ninety three, with 1832 01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:33.479 the media, of course, claiming that the movie was in 1833 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:36.479 trouble because of the fact they're doing reshoots, although Columbia 1834 01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:38.439 assured them that they do reshoots with the like on 1835 01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:40.840 most of their movies, which I know is true now. 1836 01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:42.439 I'm not sure if it's true back then, but if 1837 01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:44.520 it is true, there's no way that the media didn't 1838 01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:47.079 already know that. And so at this point it just 1839 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:49.399 seems like they're just like, fuck this movie, Like, yeah, 1840 01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:52.319 this guy's fucking lying to us, Like obviously, no, fuck 1841 01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:56.039 this movie, Like yeah, yeah for sure, no, no numbers, Okay, yeah, 1842 01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:58.479 what are you guys doing reshoots? They're doing reshoots anyway, 1843 01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:00.359 Like I'm not sure if it was the thing like 1844 01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:03.439 as like, because I know it's like especially for action movies. 1845 01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:05.520 I think, like, yeah, yeah, it's just built in now. Yeah, 1846 01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:06.760 they know they're going to do reshoots. 1847 01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:10.920 Pause, Yes, they're doing reshoots in May. When does this 1848 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:11.520 come out? 1849 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:16.000 June eighteenth. They're doing reshoots in early May, and they're 1850 01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:19.720 editing it. Post production is happening at the same time. Anyway. 1851 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:22.319 Entertainment Weekly ended up covering the reshoots and got a 1852 01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:25.439 couple of good quotes from both Arnold and McTiernan with 1853 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:28.319 McInerny and telling them, quote, they did reshoots for Terminator 1854 01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:30.920 just two weeks before it came out. It's become a 1855 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:34.279 part of making making an Arnold movie. He's like a 1856 01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:36.119 physical trainer, always pushing. 1857 01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:36.439 Do you want more rep? 1858 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:38.279 Do want more rep? You can do it? Unquote? 1859 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:40.479 Wow. 1860 01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:40.960 Yeah. 1861 01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:44.279 And then Arnold's quote concerning the rumors surrounding the film 1862 01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.359 is just great with him telling Entertainment Weekly quote, every 1863 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.319 movie I've done, there's always a buzz about how it 1864 01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:51.680 is over budget, how it wouldn't come out on time, 1865 01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.800 and how was a disaster. That's because everyone in this 1866 01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:56.920 town is jealous of the next guy. They're all a 1867 01:27:56.960 --> 01:27:59.159 bunch of jail's bitches sitting around saying, I hope he 1868 01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:02.239 takes a dive. What do you think I've been hearing 1869 01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:06.640 about Spielberg's picture the most hideous things unquote. But I 1870 01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:11.520 love the sassiness of that quote. Yeah, that wasn't you. No, No, 1871 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:14.319 they're all a bunch of around saying I hope he 1872 01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:14.960 takes a dive. 1873 01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:21.399 That sounds like you though, Erdavid. 1874 01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:23.039 Weekly also talk to them about the test s grunning, 1875 01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:26.119 with the magazine claiming that they were told by attending 1876 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:29.520 audience members that last action was quote off the mark 1877 01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.840 juvenile and my personal favorite will I Wonka with guns, 1878 01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.159 which it just sounds awesome. 1879 01:28:37.319 --> 01:28:45.520 That doesn't Yeah that, guys, I've got a movie idea. 1880 01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.079 That would make that movie ten times better. Yeah, let 1881 01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:51.239 me tell you, especially if it was like a chocolate gun. 1882 01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:59.039 Yeah. Yeah, there's so many possibilities. 1883 01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:04.800 Or a gun made out of bullet, say spray chocolate, a. 1884 01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:08.079 Gun like gushers, like gushers. 1885 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:10.720 Oh, I asked some gushers, and oh yeah, the gushers 1886 01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:11.880 are like trenations are. 1887 01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:14.800 Good and gross at the same time. 1888 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:18.359 They're they're they're not good, They're just gross. 1889 01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:19.800 They're kind of gross. 1890 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:23.840 Well, at least Arnold wasn't like at least he was 1891 01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:25.800 smart enough not to give some stupid at fuck lie 1892 01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:28.560 that like Mark Kanton did, and he also managed to 1893 01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:31.439 make his life someone entertaining. When asked about the yeah, yeah, yeah, 1894 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.359 I've asked about the h the test screening, he said, quote, 1895 01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:37.159 we had a test running. The audience reaction was fantastic 1896 01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:40.159 through the roof, but there were some people, maybe a 1897 01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:42.680 few seventeen year old girls, who said. 1898 01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:47.199 Who said that I should say that, yes says, but. 1899 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:49.800 There was some speaches. There were some people, maybe a 1900 01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:52.279 few seventeen year old girls, who said they wish there 1901 01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:54.319 were one or two more action scenes. When you had 1902 01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:56.079 the word action in the title, and when you see 1903 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.600 me on screen, people have certain expectations. It's just one 1904 01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:01.399 of those things. So we figured, why not shoot the scene. 1905 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:04.520 So yeah, they did the reshoots, all right, and we're 1906 01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:06.319 gonna stop right there, but join us next week to 1907 01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:08.920 find out how last section Hero did during its opening weekend, 1908 01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:11.279 as well as all the dumb ways that the studio 1909 01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:14.319 tried to course correct it's marketing campaign. Oh and by 1910 01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:16.319 the way, I know we always say join us next 1911 01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.079 week and then we don't end up releasing a new 1912 01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:20.840 episode for like a few weeks after that. But we 1913 01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:24.279 just finished recording and editing the next few episodes, so 1914 01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:27.720 the next one actually will one be released next week. 1915 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.079 And yeah, apologies that we've had such a super delayed 1916 01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:34.159 release schedule, like with these episodes. Everything's been a bit 1917 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:37.560 crazy lately and I've just been slacking big time. Anyway, 1918 01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:39.560 As always, thanks so much for listening, and please don't 1919 01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:41.399 forget to leave us a rating and review on either 1920 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:43.640 Apple podcast or Spotify. It's a perfect place to give 1921 01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:46.119 us a five star writing while also complaining about our 1922 01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:49.279 really release schedule. 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