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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started at the five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour here on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for hanging with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's Nick Coffee, Austin Montgomery

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<v Speaker 2>with you, taking you up until six o'clock, Take us

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<v Speaker 2>Also listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't put anything together yet as far as wagers, but

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<v Speaker 2>man a lot to choose from when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball. And I started the show by mentioning that

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<v Speaker 2>as a college basketball super fan, a real dork for

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<v Speaker 2>the sport, this is where I really start to try

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<v Speaker 2>to really take it all in and not take for

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<v Speaker 2>granted this special time of the season where you've got

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball on really more than it ever is, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when the Super Bowl comes to an end

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, I mean, the NFL is still going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the most talked about thing in sports. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>really where college basketball has got a chance to kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, emerge and remind people, hey, we're here and

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<v Speaker 2>we've got March maddness coming your way. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I watch college basketball any chance I get November, even

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<v Speaker 2>when the.

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<v Speaker 3>Early games happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So tonight's one of those nights where I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the matchups out there Perdue Iowa. I mean, if Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>and ole Miss, that should be a great game. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I'm not necessarily you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>would prefer ole Miss win, but you know, wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if Kentucky does get the dub. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a big matchup, two top twenty five teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss on hosting. Chris Beard obviously has done a

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<v Speaker 2>good job since he's been there. Marquette Saint John's should

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<v Speaker 2>be a really good game. I hate that it starts

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<v Speaker 2>at six thirty. That's kind of weird. So again, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of good games on tonight. I'm gonna watch as

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<v Speaker 2>many of them as I can and not bet on

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<v Speaker 2>them as far as you know, all of them, but

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<v Speaker 2>bet on some and hopefully I'll get lucky. And and

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<v Speaker 2>when I've had I've had some decent momentum in the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of weeks, I'm not you know, crushing it

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<v Speaker 2>by any means, but I'm having more success than I've

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<v Speaker 2>had at any.

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<v Speaker 3>Point in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's usually what happens with me when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to betting on college college basketball. But anyways, Louisville and

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<v Speaker 2>Action tomorrow taken on Boston College, I have no reason

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<v Speaker 2>to think they won't bounce back. They're gonna play a

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<v Speaker 2>really bad team, and they've done a good job against

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<v Speaker 2>really bad teams, you know, other than the slip up

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<v Speaker 2>they had against Georgia Tech. So I have no reason

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<v Speaker 2>to think that Boston Kyle is going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to beat them. But well, they can. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>that it could happen. It's just I think what makes me,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess more humble as a fan of this Louisville team,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning I've got a lot of confidence in them.

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<v Speaker 3>I love watching them play.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like when they've got it rolling and they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're clicking, and you know what I mean when I

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<v Speaker 2>say that, right, they've got you know that they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing well defensively, they're you know, getting loose for threes

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<v Speaker 2>in transition. Like that's where I think this team could

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<v Speaker 2>not only you know, be good, maybe be dangerous for

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<v Speaker 2>some teams when you get to the NAA tournament. So

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<v Speaker 2>like I believe that and I really have for a

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<v Speaker 2>while now, even with the setback to Georgia Tech.

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<v Speaker 3>However, when it comes to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the loss to to Georgia Tech, I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't change what I think this team can do.

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<v Speaker 2>But again I guess more than anything, that's a reminder

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<v Speaker 2>that they can slip up and lose to bad teams

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<v Speaker 2>and that you shouldn't just take any I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>really felt like against against Georgia Tech, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, really, you know, maybe the first time this

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<v Speaker 2>year an ACC play where I really felt like insanely confident,

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<v Speaker 2>and not just because Louislle was on a ten game

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<v Speaker 2>winning streak and playing really well, but because Georgia Tech

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't very good. But they got hot, made some big shots,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they gave Louisville their first loss and

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<v Speaker 2>over a month in ten games in fact, so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess Boston College could do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like this team will bounce back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they you know, they realized for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time this year they had a dud. They went out

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've had some bad games, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>either too you know, really good teams to where they

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<v Speaker 2>know they didn't play well and they got embarrassed in

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<v Speaker 2>some of them, like Old miss and you know Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, again that was early and earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>the season, and those are really good teams. And they've

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<v Speaker 2>had some other games like Utep and Eku where they

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<v Speaker 2>slipped up and you know, nearly lost, but they won

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<v Speaker 2>and that matters, right, you find a way to win.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the real outlier on your resume at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, a loss to a team that you know

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't have lost to. It happens, right, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>checking to see it doesn't look like we have an update.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have a spread that I can see at

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<v Speaker 2>at Draft Kings, but I'm curious if there's one at

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<v Speaker 2>FanDuel because I would imagine they'll be double digit favorites.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, they weren't double digit favorites at Georgia Tech,

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<v Speaker 2>and sure enough they ended up losing out right. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me see, does FanDuel have anything for us yet?

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<v Speaker 2>They usually get the spread? Yeah, fan duel has uh

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<v Speaker 2>has a line for us here as I as I

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<v Speaker 2>look and the cards are favored about thirteen and a half. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that speaks to how bad Boston College actually is. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety. What's happening to Jerry?

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<v Speaker 1>How much?

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<v Speaker 2>Nick?

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<v Speaker 4>I got a few Fly Williams stories for you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>as as I have told you in the past. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if you recall I was raised a Hilltopper,

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<v Speaker 4>but I live in Louisville, so you know, also a

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville fan, but my dad raised me a Hilltopper. And

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen seventy, Yeah, that was when.

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<v Speaker 2>They were in there, right like that was a that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of when they kind of made their mark.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and well, and you know Western went to the

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<v Speaker 4>final four and seventy one. We'll rehash all that then.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, all the kids that started on that team

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<v Speaker 4>were from Kentucky, which was pretty rare at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's what made me so familiar with Austin p

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<v Speaker 4>and Fly Williams. Fly Williams, I recall I watched I

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<v Speaker 4>watched his h them getting knocked out of the NCAA tournament

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen seventy three. They lost Kentucky in overtime one

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<v Speaker 4>o six to one hundred. It was played in Vandy's

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<v Speaker 4>gym uh in Memorial College a Memorial Auditorium or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>that I think it's Memorial Auditorium down there, and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a hell of a game. Fly I had

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<v Speaker 4>about thirty points, uh give or take, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just a heck of a game. Interesting because

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that coached Fly, the head coach, was named

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<v Speaker 4>Lake Kelly. Lke Kelly and Leonard Hamilton were both on

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<v Speaker 4>that bench, and they both ended up at UK on

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<v Speaker 4>their bench, you know, and they coached against joeby Hall

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<v Speaker 4>that day. So I don't know who was at Kentucky first,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it was Lake Kelly or Leonard Hamilton, but they

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<v Speaker 4>both eventually coached for Joe B. Hall and it might

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<v Speaker 4>have had something to do with that game. He maybe

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<v Speaker 4>can impress them. They they lost one six to one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred in overtime. Fly Williams had a hell of a game.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 4>People talk about different people, Steve Amy, like Milt Wagner,

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<v Speaker 4>people like that, how many points would they have had

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<v Speaker 4>if there'd have been a three point shot, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. The same. You know Pete Marrivich. They say

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<v Speaker 4>that about Pete. Thing could be said for Fly Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>He took a lot of deep shots when it was

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<v Speaker 4>only worth two points. And like I said, he was

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<v Speaker 4>a hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seven and a half points per game as as

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<v Speaker 2>a sophomore, and scored fifty one points twice as a freshman.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, he was a He was just a nice player.

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<v Speaker 4>There's one story, and I can't recall it well. While

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<v Speaker 4>people were recruiting him or he did this at Austin

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<v Speaker 4>p but there was one time where he took like

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<v Speaker 4>a corner shot. He was fading toward the out of

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<v Speaker 4>bounds and he just stumbled on out into the lobby

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<v Speaker 4>and got a drink out of the water fountain and

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<v Speaker 4>then got back in the game. That's the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>player he was. And he ended up in the ABA,

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<v Speaker 4>which was you know only that's it was the perfect

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<v Speaker 4>spot for him. I think he played for Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 4>Spirits years later and and I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what caused him to get out of it, But like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, good memories. Hell of a player, really nice player,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was a you know, he was one of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys back then, you know, it was it was

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<v Speaker 4>a little different, and they, you know, you had these

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<v Speaker 4>guys that could average you know, twenty nine. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I watched Austin Carr play for Notre Dame. He he

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<v Speaker 4>averaged big numbers. Of course, pistol pete. Fly Williams was

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<v Speaker 4>another one, you know, And but anyway, it's it's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of interesting that his coach and Leonard Hamilton ended up

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<v Speaker 4>at Kentucky years down the road. That's all I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry, appreciate it, man, Good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So, Fly Williams a name a lot of basketball

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<v Speaker 2>fans know. Obviously he played along he played long before

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<v Speaker 2>I was around. But first of all, it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>memorable name because it's a cool name. Fly Williams, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was He was brought up because Leonard Hamilton, who's

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<v Speaker 2>retiring at the end of the season, gonna step down.

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<v Speaker 2>He shared a story that we played in the Four

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock Hour about when he recruited Fly Williams. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City, unfamiliar of course with New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>He's twenty three years old, a young assistant coach, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's waiting at Fly Williams's home with his mother, waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for Fly Williams to get home. And he never came home,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended up having to he changed the clocks

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<v Speaker 2>back two three hours to where his mom didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>you know, didn't didn't you know, I guess kick him

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<v Speaker 2>out and say, hey, you got to go, it's getting late.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyways, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The the that era of basketball. That's something that I

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<v Speaker 2>often forget about just because I wasn't around. But dudes,

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<v Speaker 2>who who missed out on a three point line? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's certain guys that I'm sure at that point, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>be certain guys that like barely missed out on the

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<v Speaker 2>been there. So anyways, so the super Bowl is now

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<v Speaker 2>five days away. We talked a little bit a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit earlier about just the storylines that are out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about the officiating and how the NFL officials

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<v Speaker 2>claiming that it's you know, basically, they're offended that people

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<v Speaker 2>think that the officials are conspiring and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>And look that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how many people truly believe

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<v Speaker 2>that the officials get together and are told by Roger Goodell,

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<v Speaker 2>but they got to do whatever they can to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that the Chiefs end up winning and Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get hit. Because I think people say that just jokingly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think because of how much it's been talked about, it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess just how much people hate the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people that truly believe that this is all

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<v Speaker 2>some sham and it's you know, a work and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe it. But some other storylines. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to this matchup in the Super Bowl, I doubt they

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<v Speaker 2>just blow it up. But Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they've gotten They've gotten back to the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl here and you know, winning when you get here

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, much easier said than done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>getting to the super Bowl is much easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 2>But this would be huge for their I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't again, you don't blow it up, but you got

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<v Speaker 2>to think if you get back again, that's where pressure

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<v Speaker 2>starts to kind of mount, because wouldn't be as shocker

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<v Speaker 2>if they lose to the Chiefs and then we get

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<v Speaker 2>the I mean, let's be real, we wouldn't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>But whul anybody be surprised that next year it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles and the Chiefs again. I mean, I'm not predicting that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can and say we'd be stunned because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see any of these guys, you know, being true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you never know what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 2>in the offseason. But I think some GMS get a

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<v Speaker 2>little worried that, Okay, we've we've been right here, this

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<v Speaker 3>Why hasn't it happened yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Why haven't we broke through? Maybe we need to Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we need to blow it up and start over. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a lot better with Sewon Barkley. Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 2>has been a good enough quarterback, has been a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>He just hasn't you know, like he's he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put up crazy. He actually does pretty good numbers for

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<v Speaker 2>like fantasy football, but he's somebody that is consistent, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make mistakes, and can and can do what you need

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<v Speaker 2>him to do as.

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<v Speaker 3>A quarterback for your team to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Their defense has been really good this year, so if

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<v Speaker 2>they come up short, it could easily just be that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what are you going to do? You ran

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<v Speaker 2>into a dynasty called the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 2>so wouldn't be a shocker to see him run it back.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, there have been some times where when they

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<v Speaker 2>see that window starting to close even a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll go back to, you know, not starting over,

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<v Speaker 2>but trying to figure out which piece they need to add.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they get rid of of a nice asset to

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<v Speaker 2>their roster because they feel like they're lacking in a

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<v Speaker 2>different area. So you never know, but it would be huge.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think a lot of the attention would

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<v Speaker 2>be on Wow, I'm so glad the Chiefs loss, because

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<v Speaker 2>it does feel like if you're not a Chiefs fan

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not in Kansas City, you're not a diehard,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're probably hoping the Eagles win. At least that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way it seems. So that would be like it

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<v Speaker 2>would be an upset, It would be a surprise and

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<v Speaker 2>people would be happy. But then when you shift attention

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<v Speaker 2>to the Eagles, it would be pretty impressive. They would

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<v Speaker 2>be the ones that kind of dethroned this Chief's dynasty.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, doesn't mean they'd be over and done with,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think Jalen Hurts has got a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of put himself not in the tier of man,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's one of the best to ever do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's been successful since he's been it in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the second time he's won his Conference

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<v Speaker 2>and if he's able to outlast I mean, look, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real, he could play decent, Mahomes play great, But

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<v Speaker 2>if the Eagles win, there's gonna be a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of love giving the Jalen Hurts because that's just how

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<v Speaker 2>this works.

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<v Speaker 6>And they'd be the only people besides Tom Brady to

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<v Speaker 6>beat them in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I have I have really really

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<v Speaker 2>been a fan of Jalen Hurts for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because like I think he's some phenomenal player that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, once in a lifetime kind of talent. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a very talented guy. But to me, he is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that can claim despite being a highly regarded recruit that

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<v Speaker 2>played for you know, Nick Saban and Alabama, he has

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<v Speaker 2>always kind of been doubted because he wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't flashy, so.

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<v Speaker 5>He got benched for Tua.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he I mean he was at Bama winning national

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<v Speaker 2>championship or did he win two?

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<v Speaker 6>I think he think he won the first one and

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<v Speaker 6>that I think I think he won too, and then

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<v Speaker 6>Tua won one and I think he came in. No,

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<v Speaker 6>by the time he came in, he'd done transferred to Oklahoma, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Tua and him were were sharing reps. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when louisvill played Bama down in Orlando, Tua

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<v Speaker 2>was the starter and then they put Hurts in. I

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<v Speaker 2>think is how it worked. Maybe it was the other

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<v Speaker 2>way around, but like he got benched in the National

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game after he was already a very successful quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>at Alabama. Yeah, and they put two a end too.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know does what he does, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>he handled himself. This is where I really became a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of him because I remember thinking to myself, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is twenty one years old, maybe younger than that,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe twenty and he on live television in the National

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game for Alabama, got benched for a freshman, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believed him when he was celebrating with his team,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like to have the maturity in the

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<v Speaker 2>professionalism in that moment like that, that that's something I'll

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<v Speaker 2>always remember because I don't you could be a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>human being and really have a hard time showing that

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<v Speaker 2>you're frustrated that you're not able to play.

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<v Speaker 5>So those things that make you as a player too.

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<v Speaker 2>So then he came back the next year and they

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<v Speaker 2>split duties and sure enough to a got hurt because

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<v Speaker 2>he always got hurt. Still always gets hurt, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>And he came in in a game I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might have been against Georgia in the SEC Championship maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe it was you know, a regular I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was the SEC Championship game and Hurts who'd been benched,

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<v Speaker 2>but clearly still you know there, he came in, made

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<v Speaker 2>some big plays for him and they won. So then

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<v Speaker 2>he goes to Oklahoma and you know, puts up insane

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and Oklahoma makes the playoff and what do people say, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's still not very good. He's just a

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<v Speaker 2>product of Lincoln Riley. So he ends up getting drafted

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<v Speaker 2>in the second round by the Eagles. Eagles fans hate

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<v Speaker 2>the pick, lost their mind. Yeah, and what does he do?

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<v Speaker 2>He ends up becoming their starter and he led them

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<v Speaker 2>to a super Bowl not once, but now twice. Like

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<v Speaker 2>this guy has And I'm not saying everybody's wrong and

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<v Speaker 2>that he's this, you know, he's got this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>surgical accuracy. That's just you know, something we've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's been doubted as a guy who had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going for him early on, and all he's done

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<v Speaker 2>is win and last I checked. That's what a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to do, right, Like, you got to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to make plays, and he certainly does that. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's consistent, he's a leader, and I've always kind of

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<v Speaker 2>been a bad of him. I wish he didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>for the Eagles because the Eagles, to be are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an easy team to dislike.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll be pulling for him on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>Noe, no forget is his coach a super Bowl winning coach.

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<v Speaker 6>Doug Peterson was more or less kind of sticking up

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<v Speaker 6>just to have Carson Wentz come back and run the

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<v Speaker 6>team because I remember when they when they made Carson

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<v Speaker 6>Wentz was having again JIMVP season.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts has made has made me kind of forget

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<v Speaker 2>about that era, right, like, because they they got back

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<v Speaker 2>to a super Bowl rather quickly, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, mean sure in a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>In a few years, they were right back in the

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl with a new quarterback. And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>a random super Bowl Nick Foles had, right, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's that's got to be one of

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<v Speaker 3>In the NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>I just remember watching because I lived in Arizona all

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<v Speaker 6>my life, and I remember watching an Arizona game with

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<v Speaker 6>Nick Foles and they were talking about like it was

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<v Speaker 6>a senior year and they were talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>what he can do in the NFL. And they had

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<v Speaker 6>like his little pitcher and he looks like Napoleon Dynamite, right,

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm sitting there looking at this guy, Nick Foles,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, what's this I ever gonna do? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's Arizona. You know, they're not like a breeding ground

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<v Speaker 6>for NFL talent. Oh what do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>He ends up getting in the I mean, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>And again this is just my memory being bad. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he was already in Philadelphia for his first stint

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and he was really good there, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then it kind of fell apart that he

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<v Speaker 2>ends up with the Rams the Chiefs, and then back

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<v Speaker 2>with the Eagles. Carson Wentz goes down and he leads

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<v Speaker 2>them to a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>He had that unbelievable snow game. I think it was

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<v Speaker 6>in like twenty twelve where they played the Lions and

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<v Speaker 6>it was just it was a full, like two foot

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<v Speaker 6>of snow. When there's that iconic picture of a Calvin

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<v Speaker 6>Johnson getting up and he's just got like a block

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<v Speaker 6>of ice coming from his helmet. And I remember watching

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<v Speaker 6>that game. But Nick Foles is they were letting it fly, dude,

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<v Speaker 6>And he's one guy that's probably gonna be forgotten about

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<v Speaker 6>an NFL lore but oh, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's what a run he is.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at super Bowl winning quarterbacks, really gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>almost in my lifetime. I mean I wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 2>he would be one that would be very easy to forget,

422
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<v Speaker 2>especially when years past. Now it kind of it's still

423
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<v Speaker 2>relatively recent, so you're like, yeah, that was random, But

424
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<v Speaker 2>like in ten years, I'll have to be reminded about

425
00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>this guy because it's other than that Super Bowl.

426
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<v Speaker 3>His career is kind of easy, easy to forget. Real quick.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Before we get to break another thing, I want to

428
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<v Speaker 2>mention about some storylines here from the Super Bowl matchup.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize this, but Sawan Barkley's going to have

430
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<v Speaker 2>either a really good birthday or really bad birthday because

431
00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:31.039
<v Speaker 2>his birthday is actually on Super Bowl Sunday, which I

432
00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.680
<v Speaker 2>mean that guy that's been one of the best stories

433
00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:36.720
<v Speaker 2>and really one of the biggest stories in the NFL

434
00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.799
<v Speaker 2>this season is Barkley moving from New York to Philadelphia

435
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<v Speaker 2>and having the best season.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Of his career.

437
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<v Speaker 5>He's about to have a kid too.

438
00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he'll he will turn twenty eight years old, which

439
00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:48.920
<v Speaker 2>is ancient when it comes to running back years. But man,

440
00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:51.640
<v Speaker 2>he's still playing at a high level, no doubt. Quick

441
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<v Speaker 2>Break will come back. Keep the five o'clock hour rolling along.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven.

443
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back to coffee and company fueled by so

444
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<v Speaker 1>Orantin's on Sports Talk seven nine day.

445
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I missed this, but apparently when

446
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville is back at home on Saturday taking on Miami,

447
00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.559
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna honor the two thousand and.

448
00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Five Final four team. Which how has it been twenty

449
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<v Speaker 3>years since since that happened? Holy pittsnoggle, Yeah, I mean.

450
00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I had the pittsnoggle of mine.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I think of.

452
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<v Speaker 2>And I remember, I mean, I remember everything about that game.

453
00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I remember just I mean, honestly, I guess now that

454
00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I think back to the stress and just you know,

455
00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the insane comeback that we saw in that game and

456
00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a great finish and really the first final four for

457
00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Louisville in my lifetime, which was special. But at that

458
00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:48.880
<v Speaker 2>time I was so young, I didn't really I wasn't

459
00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:51.839
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, like, well, hopefully they can break through

460
00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:53.920
<v Speaker 2>here and win this region and get to a final four,

461
00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.079
<v Speaker 2>because you know, that's really hard to do and who

462
00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:58.680
<v Speaker 2>knows if I'll ever see one. Well, now that I'm

463
00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:01.119
<v Speaker 2>a little older, beact I'm a lot older. You know,

464
00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.559
<v Speaker 2>those aren't something. Those aren't even if you're a program

465
00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.599
<v Speaker 2>that has, you know, a lot of trips to the

466
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<v Speaker 2>final four, I mean a lot really. I mean, let's

467
00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:13.640
<v Speaker 2>look it up as far as the most final fours.

468
00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know, the Kentucky's, the Carolinas, the kansas

469
00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Is are going to be up there. But even if

470
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<v Speaker 2>you're like in that next tier where Louisville is, yeah,

471
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you feel pretty good about where you are. But at

472
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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, you know, when you get

473
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<v Speaker 2>to be my age thirty six, I mean, you know,

474
00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:33.880
<v Speaker 2>it's only happened three times in my life. Twenty twelve,

475
00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, and two thousand and five, they had two

476
00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Elite eights. That man, they were right there at twenty

477
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and seventeen with David Pagett and then I'm sorry, twenty

478
00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and eighteen with David Pagett and that crew, and then

479
00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:47.519
<v Speaker 2>they really brought back the same team the next year

480
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.359
<v Speaker 2>minus Paget, enter Somato, Samuels and that team. I don't

481
00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.640
<v Speaker 2>know how they lost to Michigan State with Teewell or Clark.

482
00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that was a special, special team. So I'll

483
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.559
<v Speaker 2>never forget gore on suits on. I mean, look, it's

484
00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:03.519
<v Speaker 2>been ten years since Louisville made the second weekend, So

485
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm

486
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:09.839
<v Speaker 2>not gonna take anything for granted when it comes to

487
00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the tournament for a while, I mean used to just

488
00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.279
<v Speaker 2>be all right, let's hope, you know, let's see what

489
00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:15.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of draw we can get, and look, we could

490
00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>still have fun with that kind of stuff. But I mean,

491
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.279
<v Speaker 2>this kind of drought, I mean, this has to be

492
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the longest drought for Louisville basketball since Denny got here

493
00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.640
<v Speaker 2>as far as making it to the second weekend, which

494
00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:32.119
<v Speaker 2>of course is Sweet sixteen. So anyways, those guys, man,

495
00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:35.039
<v Speaker 2>they're awesome, They're they're final four, and really not just

496
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.559
<v Speaker 2>that final four, but really that that that early Patino

497
00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.799
<v Speaker 2>era where he brought in You got to keep in

498
00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:48.119
<v Speaker 2>mind in in Cisco and Taekwon's freshman season, Larry O's

499
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.920
<v Speaker 2>freshman season, those guys were playing with Reece Gaines, who

500
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.039
<v Speaker 2>was a senior, and you know they that was Rick's

501
00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.640
<v Speaker 2>first group of players that really had success here. I mean,

502
00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about those two guys, by the way, had

503
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.079
<v Speaker 2>their records broken just a couple of weeks ago by

504
00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Rain Smith and Chucky Hepburn, and those records were there

505
00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:08.319
<v Speaker 2>for twenty years, twenty seasons essentially, because you know, those

506
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:10.680
<v Speaker 2>guys were special, special players. But when I think of

507
00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Louisville basketball, you know, really becoming more prominent or I

508
00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:19.079
<v Speaker 2>guess getting back to being more prominent, it's that era

509
00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.599
<v Speaker 2>with those guys who played here. I mean, Taekwan was

510
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.319
<v Speaker 2>here four years, Cisco played three, and it's a special run.

511
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people think of Taekwon, Dean and

512
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Garcia when you think of that group, and look,

513
00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 2>those were the star players. But Larry Oh was MVP

514
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 2>of that region and he played phenomenal in the tournament,

515
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>had such a special senior year. I'm telling you that

516
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:45.319
<v Speaker 2>trio of Dean, O'Bannon and Garcia. There's a lot of

517
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:47.440
<v Speaker 2>debates that can be had about who the best shooter

518
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.920
<v Speaker 2>ever is at Louisville. I can tell you who the best,

519
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>who the best trio was. There's no scenario Louisville's ever

520
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.839
<v Speaker 2>had three guys on the floor that could shoot it

521
00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.240
<v Speaker 2>like Cisco, Taekwon and Larry Oh. I mean those guys,

522
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were special and it's rare though. That

523
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>just speaks to Rick being a great coach because he

524
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>knew that he did not have great defenders on that team,

525
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and Taekwon was dealing with injuries towards the end of

526
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:14.640
<v Speaker 2>his career, especially as groin. Larry just wasn't a great

527
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:19.160
<v Speaker 2>defender as far as guarding smaller guards, lateral quickness kind

528
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>of thing. But they went to that zone and it worked.

529
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.839
<v Speaker 2>And how about Ellis Miles, I mean he was about

530
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.599
<v Speaker 2>as good of a rebounder.

531
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 3>As you'll see at Louisville. Given how tall he was.

532
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean they may list Ellis at six seven, I'm

533
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 2>not sure he was that tall. And really, Ellis is

534
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.640
<v Speaker 2>a great story about Ellis that's a great story when

535
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.079
<v Speaker 2>it comes to developing under Rick Patino. You know that

536
00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>last class that Denny brought in that I remember, and

537
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been it might have been

538
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the last freshman class that he signed, or maybe the

539
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.279
<v Speaker 2>second to last class that Denny signed. But it had

540
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 2>some guys that you know, ended up playing here. But man,

541
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>when they got here, I mean, Ellis wasn't in good shape,

542
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>really out of shape. Luke Widehead ended up becoming a

543
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 2>good player, but he wasn't great early on. And maybe

544
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just because they were young, but those guys, and

545
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's somebody else that was a part

546
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 2>of that, you know, that early class for one of

547
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Denny's last classes, and they developed under Rick. And then

548
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:18.279
<v Speaker 2>you throw in, obviously that freshman group that I mentioned

549
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>that had a great run that made it all the

550
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:21.680
<v Speaker 2>way to the Final four with you know, Larry and

551
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Cisco and Taekwon. So gonna be awesome to see those

552
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:27.880
<v Speaker 2>guys honored, But gonna make me feel really old to

553
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 2>know that it's been twenty years since since that Final

554
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 2>four happened. By the way, I'm not overdoing it here,

555
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but I've noticed Austin in the last I don't know

556
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>a week or so, because Louisville's clearly unless they fall apart,

557
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>they're going to make the tournament. And that's exciting because

558
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>we were so bad recently. But when I say, and

559
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I just said it a moment ago, that Louisville has

560
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 2>not made the second weekend in ten years, like that

561
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>floors people because it's crazy to think about.

562
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:54.359
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it.

563
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 5>And I mean twenty fifteen.

564
00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Like nobody's fact checking me.

565
00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:00.559
<v Speaker 2>But once I say it and they think away, then

566
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I think within like a second and a half.

567
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 3>They realized, you know what, You're right, it's been that long.

568
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 2>So in twenty fifteen is the Elite eight where they

569
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 2>lost to Michigan State.

570
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.640
<v Speaker 3>In the UH That was twenty fifteen in Syracuse.

571
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that So then the next year was the Damian

572
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 2>lee team, and of course that team would have made

573
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the tournament, and we know how that ended. And then

574
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>the next year was David Paget. We know that that

575
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:23.480
<v Speaker 2>ended up being a team that just you know, wasn't

576
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>quite good enough to get in.

577
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.480
<v Speaker 5>So fourth of a second away.

578
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Max, I'm sorry. So fifteen, let me back up.

579
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen was a really good season. They just got upset

580
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>in the second round by Michigan. That's what happened. So

581
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Donovan Dingadel, those guys, Race Baulding, they got a two seed,

582
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 2>had a really good year Rix last year here was

583
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>a really good season. They beat a good Kentucky team

584
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 2>with Deer and Fox, Malik Monk and Bam out of Bayo,

585
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 2>and then of course they ended up losing the Michigan.

586
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 2>And then it was the following season where David Paget

587
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>coach then Max first year they made the tournament, but

588
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 2>they ended up losing to to Minnesota. Next year they

589
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.039
<v Speaker 2>were really good, would have been a top four seed easily.

590
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Didn't have a tournament. Twenty twenty one, they were the

591
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>first team left out. They were essentially in until two

592
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>bidstealers won their tournament. I mean, that's how you had

593
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Ewing getting an extension at Georgetown. Terrible deal they made, obviously,

594
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>that's how somebody at Oregon State maybe got a new

595
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>contract because of that. And like, not only is that

596
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a fluke, that was a weird year where you're going

597
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to get weird things happening. So they didn't make the

598
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>tournament then, and then of course they haven't been back since.

599
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean when I say that, I'm not

600
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 2>piling on I just that's one of the many things

601
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>you can throw out there as to why the little

602
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>things that we used to just assume we're going to happen, right,

603
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>like making the tournament, getting at least a decent seed,

604
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 2>winning one or two games, those things haven't happened in

605
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>a while. So every little bit of this success so

606
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 2>far for Pat Kelsey in year one has been has

607
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 2>been a fun ride. And you know, they could lose

608
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>to anybody. They've they've kind of proven that. But I

609
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>think these guys, you know, I trust that they're going

610
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to bounce back tomorrow against Boston College and you know,

611
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>take advantage of what's left on the schedule, meaning you know,

612
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to play out of your mind to

613
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 2>win some of these games. But if you do and

614
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 2>you win big, who knows how much it can help you.

615
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:22.119
<v Speaker 2>But your only scenario in really improving your resume from

616
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>now unto the end of the regular season if you're Louisville,

617
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>is in fact, to blow out some of these bad teams,

618
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and that really won't mean anything, right, Like, if Louisville

619
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>goes on the road tomorrow and beats Boston College by

620
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty four and they beat Miami, who, by the way,

621
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>they did finally win a game. They beat Notre Dame

622
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 2>over the weekend. But still they're there. Go they're fade

623
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 2>worthy in a major way.

624
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 3>They're bad.

625
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Miami is so you know, if you beat them by

626
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty something, and again I'm not saying they will, I mean, heck,

627
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 2>I now look at these games as all right, they

628
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<v Speaker 2>better come ready to play, because we were just reminded that

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't and other teams play well and make

630
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<v Speaker 2>big shots and you miss free throws, you can lose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happen in Atlanta. But back to the resume,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you beat those teams bad, it really

633
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>won't prove that you're any better than like we already like,

634
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not a prove it moment. It's not like, oh wow,

635
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>they went on the road and beat Miami or n

636
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 2>C State by twenty Well, those teams are bad. So

637
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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of, you know, not really a needle mover

638
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the perception of you. And it

639
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't change my perception of this team either, to be honest. However,

640
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 2>it couldn't. It could mess with the metrics, right, like

641
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 2>a big time beat down against a team you know

642
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<v Speaker 2>that's that's in that in that.

643
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Category of being bad. It can still Again, it won't.

644
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's gonna change your seed line, but

645
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it might improve your net. It might improve the kin palm,

646
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. All right, let's take a quick

647
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>time out. We'll come back and wrap things up and

648
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>get out of here and again a big night of

649
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>college basketball. I'm looking forward to taking it all in.

650
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<v Speaker 2>You betting on this Kentucky game, Austin. What's the spread

651
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>in four and a half? Missus zippy State?

652
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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, miss oh you know, I'm sorry, oh missus favored.

654
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm I told you last week, given Kentucky

655
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>ten and a half at Tennessee seemed crazy.

656
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<v Speaker 5>They won out right, Yeah, this seems like a good

657
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<v Speaker 5>spot for Kentucky.

658
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I know that because they bounced back in these exact

659
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>moments every time. So part of me says, and this

660
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 2>is where you just gotta just trust your gut and

661
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.039
<v Speaker 2>don't don't overthink it, because.

662
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 5>I'll go with Kentucky to cover.

663
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a no brainer to expect Kentucky to compete

665
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>because they're better than Ole Miss, even though it's on

666
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<v Speaker 2>the road. However, you got to think eventually they're not

667
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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to keep answering the bell when

668
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 2>they're coming off of a loss. So I don't know

669
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<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do, but if I did have to wager,

670
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably have to say the smart money would be

671
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<v Speaker 2>on taking the Cats to cover. It feels gross saying it,

672
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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's the truth. Quick Break will come

673
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<v Speaker 2>back and wrap it up right here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, we were rocking out here as we wrap up

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with us all

679
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<v Speaker 2>for agat some good stuff, good energy, good vibes, and

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00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>the soundtrack always always on points, So thank you. Great job,

681
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<v Speaker 2>mister Austin DJ Austin Montgomery on the Ones and twos?

682
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Is that a saying?

683
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 5>Still?

684
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.599
<v Speaker 3>I felt very old as soon as I said it.

685
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<v Speaker 6>I always say on the ones and twos just because

686
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 6>it sounds so vintag.

687
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's you know, I mean, it's it's our era.

688
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<v Speaker 5>I think on the turntables, Yeah, exactly. Turntable Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember as a kid hearing that and

690
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't even know what that means on

691
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the ones and twos, but it sounds cool. So Luka

692
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Doncik was introduced in LA today, and obviously that's still

693
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<v Speaker 2>a big story and I can't figure out if it's

694
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>true or not that the initial tweet I saw was deleted,

695
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<v Speaker 2>but I did hear on our Fox Sports Radio National

696
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.799
<v Speaker 2>update from the anchor in LA that they ran with

697
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 2>it too. I'm seeing others running with it, so nothing

698
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 2>surprises me when you find out that it's fake. But

699
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 2>apparently the Dallas Mavericks have offered briefunds for the remaining

700
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>home games this season to fans who have canceled their

701
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>season tickets. That's value to be around two thousand dollars,

702
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>So I mean that that's unprecedented if in fact that

703
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>is true. But my guess would be there going to say, look,

704
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 2>we understand we did give up in the middle of

705
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the night of generational talent. That really, I mean, Luca

706
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be better than Dirk. I mean he just is.

707
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Dirk's great, but like to just trade him.

708
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>It just still doesn't seem real. But it did happen,

709
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>So maybe they're just gonna say, hey, look, we get it,

710
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but we think we're gonna have a good product that

711
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna like and support, so we'll refund you for

712
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the season. And we think you're gonna

713
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>like this team so much you're gonna come back and

714
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>watch Kyrie and Clay and Ad. But yeah, the surprise

715
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>is still still something that a lot of folks are

716
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<v Speaker 2>talking about. But Fox Sports they put together the biggest,

717
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<v Speaker 2>biggest Yeah, this is from Fox Sports. This is the

718
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>most shocking trades of all time. They have Luca at

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<v Speaker 2>number one. And there's someone here that that I'll take

720
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<v Speaker 2>their word for it, but I don't remember or just

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<v Speaker 2>don't care.

722
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 3>But Babe, Ruth to.

723
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<v Speaker 2>The Yankees from the Red Sox, that happened in nineteen twenty,

724
00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>got to tell you don't remember that. And then way

725
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Gretzky in nineteen what year was it? Gretzky in nineteen

726
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight, the year I was born, from the Oilers

727
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>to the to the Kings. Don't remember that that that's

728
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago. But he's such a I mean again,

729
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 2>these these shocking trades that take place on this list,

730
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'll run through them. It it's usually guys that

731
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>got traded before anybody knew they were, you know, legendary,

732
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 2>or guys that you know, are just really good players

733
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 2>and you can't believe in any point in their career,

734
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>old or young, that anybody would give them up.

735
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 3>But Will Chamberlain was traded to the six to the

736
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<v Speaker 3>Sixers and sixty five.

737
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 5>And then this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it, but I do, you know, it's

739
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 2>certainly one that's been talked about. Herschel Walker being traded

740
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 2>from the Cowboys to the Vikings in nineteen eighty nine.

741
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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's that's that's the pick they gave. Cowboy's like

742
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<v Speaker 6>a Viking right there.

743
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in this trade, I mean it worked out, and

744
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it being that big of a shock though.

745
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Garnett getting traded from the Tea Wolves to the Celtics,

746
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm a big NBA guy. I mean he

747
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 2>had grown insanely frustrated and bitter towards Minnesota. I believe

748
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>therefore it wasn't that big.

749
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Of a shock.

750
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they were the first to do it, meaning yeah,

751
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 2>the first Big Three. Yeah, I mean Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett,

752
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>and Paul Pierce and then you throw Rondo in there.

753
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>They had a hell of a run. So the Celtics

754
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 2>got a title out of that. And after that, the

755
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>trade that sent those two guys, Garnett and Piers to Brooklyn,

756
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 2>that to this day is one of the worst trades

757
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 2>in the history of sports, just because of what Brooklyn

758
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>gave up for a couple of old dudes that were

759
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>clearly well past their prime. This this one was a

760
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>big shock. Shaquille O'Neil going to the Heat from the Lakers,

761
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>just because Shaq when he first got to Miami was

762
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:51.559
<v Speaker 2>still like insanely dominant. And you know Shaq, I mean Shack.

763
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Shaquille O'Neil was good when he was big, big Shack.

764
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 2>But man, Orlando, Shaq was like something I've never seen before.

765
00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 2>A Rod from the Rangers to the to the Yan

766
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I remember that being a big deal. Randy Moss from

767
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots to the to the I'm sorry, from the

768
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Raiders to the Patriots. And then last but not least,

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00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the Mariners traded King Griffey Junior to the Reds.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, we're out of time, Enjoy your night.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody