1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,039 your support. Want to welcome to the program. To kick 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,280 us off on this Monday, This dreary, gray, rainy Monday, 11 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:36,840 AP Dylan. She is a reporter for the North State 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,719 Journal NSJ online dot com, also the publisher of a 13 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:45,960 substack newsletter. More to the story, AP, how are you. 14 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: Good Monday morning? 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: Not? 16 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was kind of yeah, there was a 17 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:56,759 beautiful weekend and so dreariness this morning not not conducive 18 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:00,000 to getting out of bed. But yeah, so we usually 19 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,920 talk with you at two o'clock, but scheduling conflicts make 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,359 it so we're going to do it now, and so 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,200 let's kind of jump into it first. Tell us what 22 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:09,280 the heck is smurfing? What is smurfing? 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,879 Speaker 2: Smurfing is referring to lots of little donations given over 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,200 time a period of time by an individual that total, 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,480 you know, hundreds, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars. Act 26 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:28,000 Blue has been under investigation for this. That is the 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,680 Democrat fundraising arm that they use for their fundraising purposes, 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,840 and they have been accused of smurfing. So there's been 29 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:40,879 investigations by muckrackor James O'Keefe as well as some local 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,760 investigations here in North Carolina where they went out and 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,920 I found an individual who had given something like two 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,879 hundred different donations of small amounts over the period of 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,640 maybe four or five days or you know, four to 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,040 six months, totally tens of thousands of dollars. And these 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,000 individuals have absolutely no idea they didn't make the donations. 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,560 These were done in their name without their knowledge, right. 37 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: So Act Blue and we've talked about this before on 38 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:07,560 the program, the scandals regarding Act Blue, it's been going 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,520 on for a long time. You mentioned James O'Keeffe also 40 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:14,439 Stephen Horn with this Week in the Triangle. He went 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,599 and knocked on some people's doors and found people that 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,800 had not they said, oh yeah, I made one donation 43 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:24,240 or something, and then when shown the FEC filings, they 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,840 were like, I did not donate twenty something thousand dollars. 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,680 I don't have that kind of money. So it bears 46 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:32,080 all of the hallmarks of some kind of and you 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,479 refer to it also as zombie donors, where essentially they 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,120 they're trying to like, if they got your name and 49 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:43,199 then they can create a profile, they can attach donations 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,759 to you, so you don't bust through the caps that 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,199 may exist for individual donor levels. And so what's happening 52 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:55,000 then is obviously money is coming from somewhere else that 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,840 is not allowed to be donated or it's not allowed 54 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,680 to be donated in that amount attached to a single donor, 55 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:04,199 and so they're spreading it out and it also boosts 56 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:07,560 their numbers when they say, oh, we've had you know, 57 00:03:07,719 --> 00:03:12,120 a billion small dollar donations, but they're not actually from 58 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:17,800 different people. They've just spread it out over different people's profiles. 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,199 Speaker 2: Yes, and it's also a little bit disturbing in the 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,319 fact that for a long time at Blue didn't have 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,280 its verification settings on for credit card donations, which meant 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,879 that you could go buy one of those disposable you know, 63 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:36,280 visa cards, float it up and make donations using that, 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,360 and they wouldn't be verifying it with the security number 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,840 on it, so those things could be donated from anyone anywhere. 66 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:46,639 Speaker 1: And for people who are not aware, Act Blue is 67 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:51,719 essentially the fundraising platform for all Democrats and many, many, 68 00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:56,479 many of the Democrat aligned nonprofits and activist groups. And 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,159 you don't like this is at the local level, at 70 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:03,520 the state level, national level, Democrats used this Act Blue. 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Republicans have one called Win Red, But as far as 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,199 I understand, they don't have these kinds of accusations against 73 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,879 them over on the Republican side, mainly because they switched 74 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:16,279 on those controls as. 75 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: You mentioned, Yes exactly. 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: There was one guy we've mentioned in before, Matt Vin Swall, 77 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:24,079 who has been doing a lot of work out in 78 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:27,079 western North Carolina. I was not aware he got swatted 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,399 the other day, but I was not aware that he 80 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:32,319 apparently had a bunch of these donations made in his 81 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:32,800 name too. 82 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:34,319 Speaker 2: Yes, he was smurfed. 83 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: He was smurfed. 84 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: Yes, in addition to be swatted, he was smurfed. He's 85 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:43,680 had some trouble in the last few weeks. Yeah, over 86 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,560 the last weekend he found you know, a law enforcement 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,439 officer showing up to his house at like one in 88 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,639 the morning. They had received an anonymous phone call that 89 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,759 he had murdered his wife and was hiding in his house. 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,160 So the situation, luckily, was diffused quite quickly. The officer 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,959 noticed that there wasn't a disturbance at the house, that 92 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:06,360 the call seemed to be off from what he was 93 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:09,839 seeing visually, and the fact that his wife answered the door, 94 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,759 Yeah kind of helped, right, Ye, not dead, he had 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,600 some problems there. 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this has been happening with increasing frequency. It's 97 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:21,480 led to calls for greater penalties for this kind of swatting. 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,279 It's in my view, it's attempted homicide is what it is, 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,399 and they need to investigate it as such and then 100 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:27,800 hold people accountable for that. 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have gone sideways in so many different ways. 102 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:34,399 And I know the Attorney General Pam Bondi, she's looking 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,959 at it. The FBI director Cash Betel says he's investigating it. 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,399 So hopefully we'll see some activity on that end of things. 105 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:47,800 It's it's a very dangerous scenario. I mean, if if 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,680 anyone but her had answered the door, they might have 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,040 you know, busted it open and their you know, his 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,319 children were a sleep upstairs. 109 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:58,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of Pam Bondi, she has also announced the 110 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:03,279 arrest of three individuals responsible for bombing fire, bombing Tesla 111 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:08,759 cars and charging stations. And in case so, two of 112 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:11,759 the three transgender. I don't know if that matters. It 113 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:14,600 kind of feels like it's an important detail, just because 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,079 there seems to be an emerging pattern occurring, particularly with 115 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:22,399 this sort of intersectionality, if you will, with with Antifa 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,240 people and the fundraising platforms. So do we have do 117 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:30,959 we have any evidence of a connection with the Antifa 118 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:34,079 violent protesters. 119 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Well, they don't mention that. In the press release that 120 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:41,879 the Justice Department put out. The three individuals were that 121 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,839 were identified was one was Adam Lansky and Oregon Lucy 122 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:51,000 Grace Nelson and Colorado Daniel Clark Ponder in South Carolina. 123 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:53,920 They're all dudes. Yeah, they're all dudes. The first two 124 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,399 identify as transgender, according to a local station in Colorado. However, 125 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:03,959 a second person was arrested, a twenty four year old 126 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,560 named Cooper Frederick. So we haven't seen anything going on 127 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,720 with that, but there have been hints that Act Blue 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,560 has been involved in processing money or funds for these 129 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,959 protests that are going on at the Tesla dealerships and 130 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:26,079 other places. In fact, Elon Musk himself tweeted out on 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,120 x not so long ago. I believe earlier this month 132 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,639 that an investigation found that there were five groups responsible 133 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,600 for the Tesla protests that we're having money funded through 134 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,959 them through at blue, and two of them, at least 135 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:46,639 to my I are Antifa related or adjacent. They list 136 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:52,600 the Troublemakers, the Disruption Project, Rise and Resist, the Individual, 137 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:56,160 Indivisible Project, and the Democratic Socialists of America. 138 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:00,519 Speaker 1: So the Indivisible group, they've got a whole bunch of 139 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,480 chapters all over the place, and they're they're turning up 140 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:06,279 in a lot of these anti Doge protests and stuff. 141 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: They are, they are, And that was a group that 142 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,199 rose when Trump first came into office in twenty sixteen. 143 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,560 The Individual Project was put together by some former Democratic staffers, 144 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,839 I believe, and that it had links to the Hillary 145 00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:24,600 Clinton campaign. There were certain staffers that were involved with that. 146 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,959 I'm not sure if they've changed leadership since then. But 147 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:32,159 the whole point was to give a blueprint for activists 148 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,799 to go out into disrupt town halls to do protests 149 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:38,840 on the street, how to garner media attention, et cetera. 150 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:41,919 Speaker 1: Et cetera. It kind of reminds me of the Momo 151 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:43,679 Mo the Moral Monday. 152 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: Movement, you know, it does, and in fact, that has 153 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:49,840 been a component of some of the protests here in 154 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:54,120 North Carolina over anti doge items and Raleigh they had 155 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,480 an anti Doge protest to the same day there was 156 00:08:56,519 --> 00:09:01,000 a TESLA protest in on Glenwyn Avenue that those protests. 157 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:05,120 Our friends the Raging Granny showed up, Oh God once, 158 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:08,240 who are always singing during the warm Monday, so they 159 00:09:08,279 --> 00:09:11,720 were there. But they also had a band called the Muskrat. 160 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's all it's all so theater kid, It's gross. 161 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: It is, it is. It's very theatrical. 162 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:24,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much of just just just like junior 163 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,200 high level performative garbage. And it's always been the way. Yeah. Well, 164 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,440 I mean, look, Francis Collins, he did that. He did 165 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,639 another song at his at some rally against the NHS 166 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,360 cuts too. Yeah. I don't I don't understand the allure. 167 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,120 I don't. I don't even find it persuasive. I don't 168 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,000 even think I even think it's it's particularly motivating for 169 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:48,720 their own side. 170 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: Uh, pull after Paul in the last couple of months 171 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,559 has shown that folks are happy to see those making 172 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,960 the cuts. Yeah, the majority of people are happy to 173 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,399 see those making the cuts. And meanwhile, the internal polling 174 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,840 for the Democratic Party is just it's dropped to a 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,960 historical low. I think NBC News at twenty seven percent. 176 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,159 And their internal polling has been coupled with these memos 177 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:13,039 that have gone out from you know, their their advisor groups. 178 00:10:14,039 --> 00:10:17,320 One in particular basically told them that in essence, told 179 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:23,440 them be more normal, stop with the theatric start with 180 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,840 the protesting, to stop with calling people racist, bigots and homophobes, 181 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,879 and quote, be more normal. So apparently many of them 182 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:32,759 haven't gotten that much. 183 00:10:32,799 --> 00:10:35,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a bold strategy. We'll see if it 184 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,039 pays off for. 185 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,799 Speaker 2: Them, Is that right, Cotton? 186 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ap Dylan. You could read her work at the 187 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,639 North State Journal NSJ online dot com and also at 188 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:47,679 her newsletter called More to the Story. It's a substack newsletter. Ap, 189 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,600 thanks so much for your time. As always, We'll see 190 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,240 you next week. 191 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thanks Pete. 192 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: All right, take care. 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Just a reminder, colleges, 220 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,840 you have to protect the Jews on your campus. They're 221 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:50,120 people too, and you're not allowed to turn a blind 222 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,519 eye while people are harassing and threatening to kill them. 223 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,639 So just a reminder, just a helpful note for all 224 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:04,919 of you college adminers. The letters caution the universities about 225 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,600 potential enforcement actions if they failed to fulfill their legal 226 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:15,360 obligations to protect Jewish students on campus, including ensuring uninterrupted 227 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:22,080 access to facilities and educational opportunities. Secretary of Education Linda 228 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:28,720 McMahon is quoted university leaders must do better. Among the 229 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:34,480 sixty schools named in the In the letter, UNC give 230 00:13:34,519 --> 00:13:39,879 it up. Everybody UNC some good work there. It does 231 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:44,440 not actually specify a particular campus, so let's just assume 232 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,840 it's all of them. Additionally, the Department's Office of Civil 233 00:13:49,919 --> 00:13:55,159 Rights directed its enforcement staff to prioritize resolving the backlog 234 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,679 of complaints alleging anti Semitic violence and harassment. The Press 235 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,919 Relief notes that many complaints quote were allowed to languish 236 00:14:04,159 --> 00:14:10,720 unresolved under the previous administration. No UNC Chapel Hill, where 237 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:14,879 pro Palestinian protests erupted last year, already has a Title 238 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:19,440 six complaint against it involving anti semitism and discrimination against 239 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:24,720 Jewish students. David Wiseberg, a Jewish American attorney, filed the 240 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:29,639 complaint against Chapel Hill. He also alleged the school breached 241 00:14:29,679 --> 00:14:33,440 a prior resolution that it had reached in twenty nineteen 242 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,799 with the Office of Civil Rights. The complaint was filed 243 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:41,399 last year and involves a string of incidents in and 244 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:46,159 out of the classroom following the October seventh Hamas terrorist 245 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:52,639 attack on Israel. Along those lines, this story from Campus 246 00:14:52,679 --> 00:15:00,440 Reform dot org. Columbia University agrees to Trump administration's pro 247 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,679 safety demands as it faces four hundred million dollars in 248 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:11,600 funding loss. Colombia is a private university, why is it 249 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:17,000 getting four hundred million plus in taxpayer funds. The school 250 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,759 will ban masks, it will boost security presence on campus, 251 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:26,879 and adopt a formal definition of anti Semitism, among other measures, 252 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:30,360 which look that is needed because remember Columbia had a 253 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,639 very difficult time even defining what it was. So at 254 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:36,240 least now they'll get a definition and now you know, 255 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,759 then now they'll know when they see it. Columbia University 256 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:43,919 in New York has agreed to many of Trump's demands 257 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,720 regarding school efforts against anti Semitism. After the Trump administration 258 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,360 cut off four hundred million dollars in federal funds for 259 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,879 the Ivy League school, Columbia University's leadership agreed to many 260 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:58,600 of the demands from the White House. Goes on to 261 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:03,000 say they're going to ban face masks during protests, which 262 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,320 has always been an obvious thing to do. The North 263 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Carolina General Assembly did this as well because this was 264 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:14,960 one of the things that COVID protocols allowed, was that 265 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,919 it normalized the covering of faces, and then that allowed 266 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,120 people to engage in illegal activity without being identified. We 267 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,120 saw this occur in the fiery but mostly peaceful Summer 268 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:34,200 of Love after the death of Saint George Floyd. So yes, 269 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:40,399 obviously ban masks during protests. Also, Columbia says it's going 270 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,759 to hire thirty six special officers with powers to arrest 271 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:51,159 and remove disruptive protesters, so special officers. This is in 272 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,080 addition to the campus security. Other measures include the adoption 273 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:59,240 of the definition of anti Semitism recommended by the task 274 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:06,920 Force from last summer, also expanding intellectual diversity among faculty, 275 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:12,359 and making a commitment to greater institutional neutrality. See so 276 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,839 now that the hamas Holays got to harass and intimidate 277 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,119 and take over the campus and stuff, now we're going no, no, no, 278 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Now we got to be neutral, everybody. Neutrality is the 279 00:17:23,519 --> 00:17:24,880 word of the day. That's what we're going to be 280 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,160 doing now. So don't you try to stand up for 281 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,079 yourselves anymore. Jews, Sorry, you can't do your things. Now. 282 00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:35,279 It's neutral. After we made it very clear where we 283 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:38,440 stood last year. Now we're neutral, all right. If you're 284 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,240 listening to this show, you know I try to keep 285 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:42,039 up with all sorts of current events, and I know 286 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:44,519 you do too, And You've probably heard me say get 287 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:48,480 your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because it's how 288 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:51,119 you detect media bias, which is why I've been so 289 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,839 impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a 290 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,720 website and it combines news from around the world in 291 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,039 one place, so you can compare coverage and verify information. 292 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,640 You can check it out at check dot ground, dot 293 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,799 news slash pete. 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Your subscription then not only helps 303 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,920 my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they 304 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,519 make the media landscape more transparent. All right, So I 305 00:18:43,559 --> 00:18:45,880 got an email also from John at the beginning of 306 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,759 the program. Actually it was from this morning, but I 307 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:55,839 saw it just before the program began, And there is 308 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:03,119 a related situation brewing over at UNC Charlotte. So maybe 309 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,680 UNC Charlotte is part of this Title six warning letter 310 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,960 that the United States Department of Education's Office for Civil 311 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:19,319 Rights flagged. They wrote this warning letter to sixty higher 312 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,720 education institutions. It went to UNC, but we don't know 313 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:26,160 if it was directed at a particular campus or not, 314 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:34,119 because UNC Charlotte has had some Tentifa to action and 315 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:42,599 they've got an event scheduled for a believe tomorrow. Yeah, 316 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,440 there is an event scheduled for tomorrow, March twenty fifth, 317 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:53,720 and it's called Triggered the Tour. It is a nationwide 318 00:19:53,799 --> 00:20:01,039 campus tour featuring a panel of Israeli Defense Force soldiers 319 00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:09,319 so IDF soldiers who saw action after October seventh. The 320 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:15,039 speakers are, according to the release here from the Students 321 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:20,359 Supporting Israel Organization or SSI. The speakers are set to 322 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,279 talk about the importance of Israel defending itself from terror 323 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,759 threats and misguided propaganda, and the way that the Israeli 324 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:36,799 Society stepped up to volunteer following October seventh. According to 325 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:42,279 the organization, the name of the tour is intentionally you know, 326 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:46,559 Triggered to point out ironically the fact that students on 327 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,279 campuses are mostly not triggered by world events unless it 328 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:53,440 has anything to do with Israel. The tour, indeed, has 329 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,240 triggered outrage among anti Israel groups who are aggressively demanding 330 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,039 that SSI and U university administrators cave to their pressures 331 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,039 and cancel the events. So the one scheduled for tomorrow 332 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:14,960 at UNC Charlotte, they're not demanding, the school is not 333 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:18,680 demanding that they cancel the event. They're just going to 334 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:23,359 price gouge the event so much so that it cannot 335 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:32,680 be held. That's the accusation from SSI. Despite the student's 336 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,680 efforts to share the story of israel self defense against 337 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:40,920 terrorism and our overwhelming adherents to campus policies and protocols, 338 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:47,279 UNC Charlotte administrators are succumbing to pressure from these radical 339 00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:51,400 anti Israel groups in a move that punishes pro Israel 340 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,480 students instead of those who attempt to silence our voices. 341 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:01,440 The university is coercing SSI by imposing a roughly five 342 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:07,160 thousand dollars campus security fee. If SSI were to go 343 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,599 ahead with its event. They're requiring twenty two security personnel, 344 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,799 sixteen police officers and six staff security, which would create 345 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,400 not only financial barriers and stifle our freedom of expression, 346 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,039 as most student groups would be deterred by such a 347 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:33,599 significant cost. So what is UNCC doing. They are aiding 348 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:39,200 in the Heckler's veto. You have one group of students 349 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,279 that wants to hold an event, a peaceful event, a 350 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:47,440 panel discussion, right exchange of ideas one would think might 351 00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:51,799 be at place on a campus of quote higher learning, 352 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,200 and another group wants them to shut up. That they 353 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,400 would be the hecklers. They would that would be the 354 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,119 Heckler's veto. In other words, I want to, you know, 355 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,920 say my piece. I want to have an event, I 356 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,680 want to have a discussion, a dialogue, whatever, And you 357 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:13,519 don't want to hear what I have to say. You 358 00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:16,279 don't want anybody else to hear what I have to say, 359 00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:20,039 So you are going to shout me down so nobody 360 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:26,559 can hear me speaking. And rather than UNCC stepping in 361 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,000 and saying this is protected speech, they are a legitimate organization, 362 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:36,079 this is a legitimate event, and they should be allowed 363 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,079 to have their event on the campus as any other 364 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:45,599 student organization can. Rather than saying that UNCC is bowing 365 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,480 and aiding in a betting the Hecklers. They're bowing to 366 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:54,119 that pressure. They're caving, and so they're going to tell 367 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,039 now the students, you have to pay for your own security. 368 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000 You have to pay for your own security for the event. 369 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:11,079 This excessive charge, the SSI press release reads, requiring twenty 370 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:16,000 two additional security personnel, makes the Jewish students pay to 371 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:21,920 be kept safe on their own campus following threats against them. 372 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:29,839 Think about how grotesque that is. Right, A bunch of 373 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,839 kids want to get together and host an event, and 374 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,680 the hamas holays say, shut up, jew you can't talk. 375 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,440 You can't have that event. We hate you. I'm sorry. 376 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,680 It's about peace, and so you can't have your event. 377 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,319 And we will intimidate you and pressure you and harass you. 378 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,000 We will do all of these things that we have 379 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,960 all read about in the media all over the country 380 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,079 for the last year and a half. And the administration 381 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,599 comes in and says, let us adjudicate this impartially, Yes, Jews, 382 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,240 you need to pay for your own security. Rather than saying, hey, 383 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,519 Heckler's hamas holays, you guys can't do what you are 384 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,839 intending to do. 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I 415 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,279 worked there for over thirty years. Oh wow, I could 416 00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:24,839 tell you instances of this more numerous than you could imagine, 417 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,519 but I'm going to you know, I still have friends 418 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,799 working there. And of course, if you work thirty years 419 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:36,160 in a government university, you make very good friends with 420 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,799 people who are completely politically opposed to you. 421 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Sure, and when I first unless you're a lefty. 422 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 3: When I first got there and I began working there 423 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,319 in nineteen eighty six, the attitude was, oh, you're one 424 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,920 of those, how quaint And by the time I retired, 425 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,799 and I retired I left officially during COVID. By the 426 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,359 time I retired, it was very much a case of 427 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:10,920 we don't like your kind. But one of my jobs 428 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240 over the course of working there was every year I 429 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:19,920 had to help a Holocaust survivor professor put up a 430 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,359 display for Holocaust Remembrance Week. And she was not the 431 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,640 most friendly person on the planet, and nobody wanted this 432 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:33,279 job because she was kind of gruff and demanding. And 433 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:39,000 the video that accompanied the week long display was old 434 00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:41,279 VHS tape that was on a loop and it would 435 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,400 be played and the students would occasionally complain about it 436 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,640 because it was on with audio for an entire week, 437 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:53,359 and it was video of the Holocaust, right, And I 438 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,640 saw where it needed to be updated. I saw where 439 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720 things needed to be played with. But over time I 440 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,880 watched them take her from a main location to a 441 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920 more secluded location, to a location where no one would 442 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,480 ever see it. And in the last year that I 443 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,000 was helping her put it up, she said to me, 444 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:17,599 when I retire, Holocaust Remembrance Week will never be acknowledged again. 445 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,279 And this was a while ago, and she was virtually right. 446 00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,359 Speaker 1: So was she still there when you retired? 447 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,319 Speaker 3: No, she was not, although she passed away after I retired. No, 448 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,200 she had retired. She was virtually right that it just disappeared. 449 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:43,880 When she disappeared, I was I went from some of 450 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,839 the major people, some of the people that the university 451 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:54,119 crowded and that Charlotte was proud of and named as 452 00:29:54,319 --> 00:30:00,519 important people. And I'm not just talking donors, I'm talking history. 453 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:08,759 We're Jewish Jewish community. Charlotte was extremely influential in the 454 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:12,000 civil rights movement. So when I first got there, that 455 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,720 was the thing. 456 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Stein's own father was a big civil rights 457 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,000 lawyer for African Americans in the sixties, right. 458 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,119 Speaker 3: And by the time I left, it was not mentioned. 459 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,079 Let's take that down. What does that name need to 460 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:34,480 be there for? I was shocked. I mean I was. 461 00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:39,359 I'm old enough that my parents were alive and my 462 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,599 dad served in World War Two, So to ever see 463 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,640 this kind of attitude shift is so incredibly chilling to me. 464 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:54,720 And it's it's an anti Semitism. It's not simply anti Zionism. 465 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what I was going to ask, is it. 466 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:01,640 I mean, obviously, with the eruption of the war after 467 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640 the October seventh attack, there are a lot of people 468 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,440 that now are making the you know, oh, it's just 469 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,319 anti Israel and we're against the war and that sort 470 00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:11,799 of stuff, and so they've got a very good sort 471 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,319 of cover story for it. But you say, this has 472 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,440 been happening long before, you know, October seventh, and so 473 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,000 it's you think it's about fifth. 474 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a whole way of thinking, and 475 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,079 on the university campus, and that includes the way the 476 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,319 campus thinks about free speech in general. Those of us 477 00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,240 who are old enough to remember the dark tower in 478 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,400 the middle of campus on which was you know, it 479 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,359 was an ugly thing, but the university got rid of 480 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,839 it by benign neglect. They didn't want that to be 481 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,279 the centerpiece of the university anymore, so they let it 482 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,519 decay until they could tear it down. But on the 483 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,920 grounds of the Belk Tower, let's say, the whole twenty 484 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,400 five of the thirty years I worked there, there was 485 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:02,039 a plaque stating that it was a free speech So 486 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,759 in the area surrounding the Belk Tower, anything goes or 487 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:10,880 anything did, and there were preachers that were allowed. There 488 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,519 was from the time I got there, there was all 489 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200 kinds of the kind of thing you expected to me 490 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:17,799 in my mind on the college campus, the kind of 491 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:24,079 debate and posters and protests and things happened surrounding the 492 00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:27,319 Belk Tower. When the Belk Tower was torn down, that 493 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,599 plaque disappeared. It was part of my job because I 494 00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:37,279 you know, I said, I did display such things to 495 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,079 try to figure out where it went. So I did 496 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:42,759 some inquiries, but where the plaque go And the kind 497 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,599 of responses I got was well, we're going to put 498 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,599 up something else, which never materialized what I'm aware of. 499 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,599 And then it was like, well, it's for the safety 500 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:57,119 of the students. Statements like that were being made. Yeah, 501 00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,759 And I don't know, is that there's any true place 502 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,079 where you could really say your piece on that campus anymore. 503 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Well, I think if you're pro Palestinian, I think you can. 504 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,480 I think it's pretty much all over the place. Jews 505 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:11,839 not so much, not so much. 506 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,359 Speaker 3: And there are other movements that were like that. I 507 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:20,640 don't know if you remember the occupy movement, Oh yeah, okay, 508 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:24,720 well I recall them putting up tents on the grounds. 509 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,279 And I walked by at o dark thirty because that's 510 00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,960 when I started working, and nobody was sleeping in the tents, 511 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,400 and all the tents were were from what's the name 512 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960 of it, the same company, and they were all from 513 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,720 the identical company, and nobody was sleeping in them. And 514 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,799 I commented to someone about how it's really odd that 515 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,200 the tents hadn't popped up on our campus. Well, they 516 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,960 popped up overnight like mushrooms. Pictures were taken, they were cuted, 517 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,200 but to my knowledge, they were not the students who 518 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,440 did it. 519 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tricia, I got to leave it there. I'm up 520 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,119 against a break. I appreciate the call. Thanks for the insight. Yeah, no, 521 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,680 thank you for sharing that. I appreciate it. By the way, 522 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:07,559 they are asking for the SSI kid, the student organization 523 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,880 is asking people to send an email to the UNCC 524 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,960 administration urging them to confirm the continuation of the event, 525 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,800 to absolve the group from the unfair burden of the 526 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,920 security fees, and to stand up against anti Semitic bullying 527 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,159 and intimidation. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 528 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,320 Thank you so much for listening. 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