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<v Speaker 1>Fellow coustum.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the years on nine ninety nine, the eve

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<v Speaker 2>of the year three thous mother Earth is style. The

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<v Speaker 2>hills in the valley, who was filled with the beauty

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<v Speaker 2>of sounds, malley of fallow and silent music has lost

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<v Speaker 2>its moves. There's no singing, no dancing, no smiling, no

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<v Speaker 2>individual styling.

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<v Speaker 3>That there is hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm across the universe. A rebel band the vodcast has arrived,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing with them the hopes and dreams of a new generation,

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<v Speaker 2>a generation imbued with the spirit of song and the true.

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<v Speaker 4>Rhythm of life.

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<v Speaker 2>One can only hope that their arrival will signal the.

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn are definitely restless.

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<v Speaker 5>One two three, Baby man around because you love so

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<v Speaker 5>min as I know by show, But it does anyone

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<v Speaker 5>up standing to see me.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk out of the door.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't try to fight the been and just the don

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<v Speaker 5>alone's judy me.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you, folks yours double jback here coming at

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<v Speaker 6>you live SLASH live from my studio slash RV dining Room,

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<v Speaker 6>Okay directly outside the city of Little Porter Prince, Ohio

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<v Speaker 6>formerly known as Springfield, Ohio. Now, folks, I will be

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<v Speaker 6>your pilot and navigator for this Shenanigan infused journey to

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<v Speaker 6>the mind of this particular garbage can dude and joining

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<v Speaker 6>us here at some point in time, My co host

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<v Speaker 6>Nick from The Occult Rejects will be also joined us.

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<v Speaker 6>But we got a guest here, Writer Lee, talking ancient

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<v Speaker 6>alien cargo cults, and you know, perfect timing as well

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<v Speaker 6>as we've been working on this show for a few

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<v Speaker 6>weeks getting this together, well, I'm sort of with planning

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<v Speaker 6>in advanced a few weeks ago to the point where

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<v Speaker 6>great timing with us current UFO, you know, flap of

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<v Speaker 6>drones and other weird activity going on in the guys something.

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<v Speaker 6>Writer has done a lot of research and study into

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<v Speaker 6>these subjects, and you know where these two intersect actually,

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<v Speaker 6>these these alien sy ops and the ancient alien cargo

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<v Speaker 6>cults and the potential occult surroundings of some of those intersections.

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<v Speaker 6>So some stuff writers well versed in, and a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of a lot of stuff we've been talking about here

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<v Speaker 6>on Operation GCD. But Writer, I appreciate your time. Bud,

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<v Speaker 6>welcome to Operation GCD.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much for having me on. Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot to talk about. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 4>can get in takes so many different directions. And we

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<v Speaker 4>talked before we started the show, and you were familiar

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<v Speaker 4>with the work that I'd done on a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>these UFO cults. I have a whole series of them

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<v Speaker 4>on a YouTube channel. There's a playlist on there called

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<v Speaker 4>UFO Doomsday Cults and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the race By show.

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<v Speaker 6>You got there on YouTube, and I'll podcast platforms too,

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<v Speaker 6>it seems right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Sir, you find it on rais by Giants on YouTube

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<v Speaker 4>and anywhere that you listen to podcast Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, iHeartRadio,

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere you listen to the podcasts. You can find the

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<v Speaker 4>show sipe.

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<v Speaker 3>With your link three in the in the show notes

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Therefore it but so.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 6>Writers writers UFO Doomsday Cult series. Highly recommend it. We'll

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<v Speaker 6>just be touching some of the surface level of some

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<v Speaker 6>of those things. I've listened to that series. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>fantastic series.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I really appreciate that. I put a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of work into it. So I really hope people hope

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<v Speaker 4>that blows up later on, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and people will really yeah the gems that are in there.

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<v Speaker 6>There's interest in the topic, I think, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I think more and more people are looking to the

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<v Speaker 6>skies and they're having some questions, So I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna some turn some interest that way. And as I said,

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<v Speaker 6>I've been doing some ancient alien cargo cult discussions here

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<v Speaker 6>and relative not just the cargo cult kind of philosophies,

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<v Speaker 6>but some of the cult members' activities. For example, the

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<v Speaker 6>introduction we heard from Outcast, well, they're apparently what's considered

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<v Speaker 6>one of the quote unquote New Wabbian millionaires according to

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<v Speaker 6>the public relations folks from the New Wabbian Nation, which

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<v Speaker 6>was an ancient alien cargo cult, Black nationalist cargo cult.

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<v Speaker 6>Mound builders. They you know, they're the descendants from ancient Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 6>Dwight York, the cult leader these you know, that was

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<v Speaker 6>they're kind of their philosophies. They built a huge four

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty acre ancient Egyptian city on the mounds

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<v Speaker 6>in Georgia, Sphinxes Pyramids, complete with a nightclub in the pyramid.

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<v Speaker 6>Because Dwight York is kind of the inventor of hip

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<v Speaker 6>hop music, so a lot of hip hop artists, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>pay homage to him and their lyrics. Jay Z pays

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<v Speaker 6>homage doing for starting his career. Jay Z's first music

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<v Speaker 6>video was shot at the New Abby Nation Center in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 6>New York.

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<v Speaker 4>So we see how they was turning out for jay Z.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now he's being sued along with U Diddy as well.

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<v Speaker 6>And then so you beat me to the bunch that

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<v Speaker 6>rider go. Let's say jay Z might be meeting his

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<v Speaker 6>friend Dwight York soon. Dwight York Florence super Mix prison

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<v Speaker 6>for the next one hundred and fifty years for kid

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<v Speaker 6>deadlie and child sex trafficking, So him and jay Z

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<v Speaker 6>might be seeing each other soon there in Florence.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And that reminds me of this call called the

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<v Speaker 4>Aralian Cult. It was I think it was episode four

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<v Speaker 4>of My Doomsday Call series and all revolves around this

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<v Speaker 4>guy named Ryelle and he essentially bought all this property

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<v Speaker 4>in Canada and he made this it was basically a

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<v Speaker 4>sex callt a UFO sex cult, and he would, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>have this ladies dance in front of them and then

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<v Speaker 4>he would pick out the best woman and have sex

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<v Speaker 4>with him that night. And it was like for like royalty.

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<v Speaker 4>It was these women and he said that he was

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<v Speaker 4>training these women for the Alohem to be there, essentially

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<v Speaker 4>their slaves whenever the Alloheim land and on Earth in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty five and give us all of their robots

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<v Speaker 4>and all their technology and their cloning technology. And he

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<v Speaker 4>also started this company in Canada called Clone Aid, where

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<v Speaker 4>he supposedly cloned the human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>And in two thousand, yeah, about that, right, the cloning.

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<v Speaker 4>They said that it was all real, and they cloned

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<v Speaker 4>the person and her name was Eve, and now she

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<v Speaker 4>lives somewhere in Israel. Imagine that, and where no one

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<v Speaker 4>can you know, no scientist has ever been able to

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<v Speaker 4>examine her to see if she loan and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then supposedly the story goes as he was on

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<v Speaker 4>this mountain range and saw an Aloheim ship, and the

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<v Speaker 4>Aloheim came and picked them up and took him in

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<v Speaker 4>the space and took him to his to their home planet,

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<v Speaker 4>where they gave him a bunch of these sex robots

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<v Speaker 4>that he can have sex with it. And that's where

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<v Speaker 4>he got the idea to start this clonal company.

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<v Speaker 6>But the cults, aren't they every time always sex goults.

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<v Speaker 4>The leader has got to be having sex with all

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<v Speaker 4>of the everyone that they can possibly get their hands

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<v Speaker 4>on and what reminded me of you know, you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about this where they built a lot of this acreage

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<v Speaker 4>and all this stuff. Well, apparently the Ryal they need

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<v Speaker 4>to get donations and a lot of money in order

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<v Speaker 4>to build this Alohem landing pad for the extraterrestrial Aloheim

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<v Speaker 4>to land in twenty thirty five. And if they haven't

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<v Speaker 4>built the proper landing pad for the Yloheim, then they're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to show up and share their sex robots

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<v Speaker 4>with humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be a real bummer. I hope we don't

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<v Speaker 3>miss that on that with them? Was it the Ralians?

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's the Swastik assemble that Kanye tweeted out right

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<v Speaker 6>and got a banded from Twitter.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting group, those brilliants.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a it's like a Swasta guy inside of

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<v Speaker 4>a Star of David.

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<v Speaker 3>Which that's right, that's right, very unique symbol.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's the word the backwards one too,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's not or it could be the one that

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<v Speaker 4>the Nazis used. I would have to look up a

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<v Speaker 4>picture again because we know that the one that the

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<v Speaker 4>Swasaka the Nazi used were completely different than what the

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<v Speaker 4>original swastika, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or the Native American swastika for that matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's an interesting point because there's another styl

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<v Speaker 6>of Swatsika of a group that I often like to

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<v Speaker 6>highlight in their activities in this world, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of the intersection of what I think is these UFO

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<v Speaker 6>or anchient alien cargo colts and modern day Satanism, And

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<v Speaker 6>that's a group like the Processed Church of the Final Judgment,

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<v Speaker 6>an off shoot Scientile, which is in the sense and

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<v Speaker 6>offshoot they're the Oto, but the process used of the

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<v Speaker 6>swats because their symbol, and they have a very ancient

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<v Speaker 6>alien cargo cult theology where they have these the watchers,

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<v Speaker 6>which are these sort of disembodied spirits that lifts orange space.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, to me, they seem obviously like demons, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, that's that's kind of how I.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at a lot of the subjects.

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<v Speaker 4>They all have like a weird mixing of theology and

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<v Speaker 4>mysticism mixed up in there with them. But whenever, you

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<v Speaker 4>you know, get down to the fine details of like

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<v Speaker 4>all these cults going back from the early thirties with

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<v Speaker 4>the Cult of im that we were mentioning earlier, whereas

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<v Speaker 4>literally all of these New Age beliefs all stem from

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<v Speaker 4>the cult of I Am with Guyana and the Ballard

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<v Speaker 4>within the United States, and then that created all of

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<v Speaker 4>these different offshoots of all these cults. But it really

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<v Speaker 4>started to hit hardcore around the early fifties. You had

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<v Speaker 4>all these Fox cults in these cults really popping up

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<v Speaker 4>around the fifties, and that is the exact time that

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<v Speaker 4>the CIA started their mk ultra programs, like within a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Range, like any timing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, with scientology there as well, right, because it's obviously

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<v Speaker 6>not Justice CIA, like probably Office of Navy Intelligence, air

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<v Speaker 6>Force Intelligence doing their program.

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<v Speaker 3>Air Force really got into the mk ultr stuff, have you.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Yes they did, were some of them. They

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<v Speaker 3>really loved that stuff, didn't they.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they were the most interested in and out of

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<v Speaker 4>all the agencies. And we can only wonder why they

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<v Speaker 4>were the most interesting, you know, because and then you

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<v Speaker 4>look at all the sightings of UFOs over the years

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<v Speaker 4>since nineteen forty seven, and you'll you'll get a big

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<v Speaker 4>reason why that they would be interested in using mk ultra.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the whole Men in Black story is very

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<v Speaker 4>reminiscent of a like an operation, right, Like if you

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<v Speaker 4>put something in the sky, and you put something out there,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you'd let people see it, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>go and ask them questions about what they've seen. That's

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<v Speaker 4>like a follow up to an operation. That's what you

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<v Speaker 4>would do. In an operation. You would essentially sort of

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<v Speaker 4>fabricate this event, and then the people that witness the event,

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<v Speaker 4>you would go to them and then ask them exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what it is what they saw, and they would be

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<v Speaker 4>like a perception test, because some people would claim that

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<v Speaker 4>they would see one thing and other people would claim

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<v Speaker 4>that they've seen another. And that's a common thread throughout

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<v Speaker 4>these UFO sightings and even abduction sightings like that the

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<v Speaker 4>which I'm a huge fan of. I loved that documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Which one is this which abduction case is familiar?

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Manhattan alien abduction case that involves Bud Hopkins,

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<v Speaker 4>which I did a whole show on Bud Hopkins using

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<v Speaker 4>regression therapy to regress people back to when they think

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<v Speaker 4>that they've been abducted by aliens, which is just a huge,

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<v Speaker 4>big farce, you know, to because you have the ability

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<v Speaker 4>to implant thoughts into people's heads. When it comes to regression.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, regression does serve a really good therapeutic sense.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually supposed to help you with like addictions and

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<v Speaker 4>like quitting smoking and like alcoholism and stuff. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>regression is originally supposed to be for. It's not for

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, the guy Ballard, the originator of this colt of

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, is it just a coincidence that

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<v Speaker 4>these people are also hypnotherapists that are running these freaking cults.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great point because another relative to some of

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<v Speaker 6>the process discussions I've had her on Operations, GCD, touch

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<v Speaker 6>researchers have identified these hypnotists that are all surrounding the

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<v Speaker 6>spooky type of characters that no one really talks about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, then there's evidence pointing to the fact that that

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<v Speaker 4>the CIA was actual people that taught Manson how to

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I think, and I think that's kind of

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of the big secret around him is is

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<v Speaker 6>that these programs are still being used for.

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<v Speaker 3>For a lot of other functions, not just specifically that one.

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<v Speaker 6>They have more of a general use of drugging and

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<v Speaker 6>hypnotizing people to get them to do whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>means necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I think, uh, you know, I think I

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<v Speaker 6>think we're we you know, kind of what your point

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<v Speaker 6>was of the nineteen fifties. The onset of a lot

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<v Speaker 6>cargo colts is the we now live in an era

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<v Speaker 6>literally taken over politics and society right to the point

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<v Speaker 6>where there's numerous instances where they intersect within the upper

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<v Speaker 6>echelon of of American politics, but also other other nations politics,

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<v Speaker 6>including like Mexico, who had numerous uh uh children of

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<v Speaker 6>former presidents of Mexico high up in the Nexium cult

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<v Speaker 6>for example. So you know, there's a lot of these

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<v Speaker 6>and I really think we just live in this whole culture.

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<v Speaker 3>These things have taken over.

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<v Speaker 6>I use the image of C three of You from

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<v Speaker 6>Return of the Jedi as the image and the and

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<v Speaker 3>Show because that's kind of I get a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>What is an ancient alien cargo cult? And that's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of a you know, it's kind of a depiction of

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<v Speaker 6>what an ancient alien cargo cult is where the e

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<v Speaker 6>the Nike he's a god, and then they create this

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a that's a perfect example. And yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>Return of the Jedi.

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<v Speaker 6>Right Yeah, that's Return of the Jedi. And again it's

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<v Speaker 6>existing in a gal in a galaxy far far away,

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<v Speaker 6>in a time long ago, far far away. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>literally in the credits, the opening credits, they tell you

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<v Speaker 6>it's an ancient alien you know storyline, right, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>long time ago in a galaxy far far away. So

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<v Speaker 6>that is the story of ancient aliens right there. That's

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<v Speaker 6>you look at scientology, they have a story of a

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<v Speaker 6>tale of a long time ago in a galaxy far

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<v Speaker 6>far away. They just don't call it star wars. They

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<v Speaker 6>call it, you know, xenoism if you will.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And that's the thing about a lot of these

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<v Speaker 4>cults too, is like they always change up their doctrine

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<v Speaker 4>whenever people start catching on that they're called is full

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<v Speaker 4>of shit, and they always you know, try and backtrack

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<v Speaker 4>on it and change exactly what's going on when things

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<v Speaker 4>start to not pan out, and they all copy off

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<v Speaker 4>of each other as well, like seekers UFO cult from

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen fifty four, which no one ever really even heard

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<v Speaker 4>of until I started talking about it, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>was actually on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix

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<v Speaker 4>recently where they talked about it and I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 4>where did they get this from? But anyway, uh, the

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<v Speaker 4>Cold of nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Where was the Secrets? I'm I'm not familiar with these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>The Secrets?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this was called also out of Chicago. Just how

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<v Speaker 4>the Cold of I Am is also out of Chicago

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<v Speaker 4>as well, and it was established, and I think around

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<v Speaker 4>this December of nineteen fifty four, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>them came up. In nineteen fifty four, you also had

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<v Speaker 4>the UHL after created, right, yes, and you know the

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<v Speaker 4>Air Force is doing their test of the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>running the test for NASA until NASA completely took that over.

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<v Speaker 4>And but it really revolves around this lady called Dorothy Martin,

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<v Speaker 4>and she basically told her cult, that her followers of

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<v Speaker 4>this cult that the United States was going to be

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<v Speaker 4>essentially destroyed by a gigantic earthquake in a huge tidal wave.

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<v Speaker 4>See that's another thing that these cults uses, like nothing

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<v Speaker 4>but fear, which you can see that within this community

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<v Speaker 4>as well, like people use the fear narrative to get

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<v Speaker 4>people to buy things. And that's another one that the

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<v Speaker 4>mainstream media also uses, is fear like you got to

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<v Speaker 4>protect yourself in case of a giant disaster or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So Dorothy Martin her always apocalyptic spin, and that comes

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<v Speaker 4>from Christianity of course, in the Book of Revelation, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you know. The entire cult of the Waco

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<v Speaker 4>cult with Dave koresh Uh or krush I get those

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<v Speaker 4>confused because they're very similar to the UFO whistleblower that

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<v Speaker 4>is Big Core Rash is the Waco leader. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you have David Grush, which is the UFO whistleblower that

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<v Speaker 4>testified in front of Congress, which is very similar in

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<v Speaker 4>their name structure, in the way that you say their names.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think anyone really caught on to that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just had the Waco the Gentleman that survived

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<v Speaker 4>Waco on my show right before that, so I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>He was at Waco and he was inside the building

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<v Speaker 4>when it was being burnt down, and him and I

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<v Speaker 4>believe eleven other people were the only survivors of that

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<v Speaker 4>entire incident. But anyway, Dorothy Martin, she convinced her entire

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<v Speaker 4>following group that this huge natural disaster was going to

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<v Speaker 4>and destroy the entire United States. And you know, she

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<v Speaker 4>got this information, of course from telepathic communication from aliens

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<v Speaker 4>that which she calls the Guardians, which then later gets

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<v Speaker 4>the DNA strands and the twelve strand DNA that she

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<v Speaker 4>it all comes back full circle, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>it starts with these UFO cults and the believers and

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<v Speaker 4>the followers of this cult, you know, were they thought

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<v Speaker 4>that they were going to be saved by these massive

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<v Speaker 4>UFOs that were going to come down called the Guardian

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<v Speaker 4>Races UFOs, And they said that it was going to

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<v Speaker 4>happen on December twenty first, nineteen fifty four, and then

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<v Speaker 4>when that didn't happen, they pushed the day back, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they just kept pushing the day back until everyone

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<v Speaker 4>just lost interest. But there was this gentleman that infiltrated

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<v Speaker 4>in the call called Leon Futzinger, which was a psychologist,

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<v Speaker 4>and he infiltrated into the Seekers cult with the with

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<v Speaker 4>a goal of trying to study their psychological you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're essentially their coping mechanisms of when their beliefs failed. Whenever,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they would say that this was going to

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<v Speaker 4>happen on a certain date, then how would they justify

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<v Speaker 4>the reason why that thing didn't happen and Leon.

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<v Speaker 6>The apocalypse didn't come right, which seems to be an

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<v Speaker 6>ongoing trend that even though the apocalypse never come with

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<v Speaker 6>these cults, a contingent of the cult still seems to

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<v Speaker 6>stick around with a new leader, right with a new

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<v Speaker 4>Leon Fenger exactly. And then they try to switch it up,

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<v Speaker 4>and they try and cover their asses and use some

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<v Speaker 4>didn't show up, like that their spaceship broke down, or

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<v Speaker 4>that they met such secretly with the government and they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't do it publicly and things are going to change,

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah blah blah, and just keeps going on

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<v Speaker 4>and on and on and but a little well known

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<v Speaker 4>thing that people not well known thing sorry, that people

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<v Speaker 4>did not know about this cult was this calt is

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<v Speaker 4>where the term cognitive dissonance actually originated from, and originated

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<v Speaker 4>from this psychiatrist, a psychologist sorry that infiltrated into the

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<v Speaker 4>cult and studied these members whenever their predictions failed, and

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<v Speaker 4>he developed the term cognitive dissonance. And I was also

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<v Speaker 4>talked about in the documentary. So those people on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 4>So those people had to have watched my show on

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<v Speaker 4>this this call the year before this call it even

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<v Speaker 4>came out. I mean, this documentary even came out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a good nod to your research, then,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this, uh, this is the on Fessenger guy that

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<v Speaker 4>created the term cognitive dissonance. Is so interesting because that's

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<v Speaker 4>why people within the UFO community call people that don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe in UFOs and don't believe in aliens, oh well,

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<v Speaker 4>they got cognitive business. They just can't wrap their minds

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<v Speaker 4>around when the term was actually first developed and came

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<v Speaker 4>to fluition from those people that believed UFOs and aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a switcher through.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, that's a I'm have to look more into. That's

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting culture. I'm not. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>That's especially with the origins of the cognitive dissonance term.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you said, it's so commonly used today.

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<v Speaker 3>I like your point, though.

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<v Speaker 6>You also made their writer about the derivative nature of

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<v Speaker 6>these cults. And I don't know that you covered Heaven's

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<v Speaker 6>Gate in your series, but I'm sure you've come across

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<v Speaker 6>Heaven's Gate.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, well maybe I missed that one then, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so what were you what were some of your thoughts here,

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<v Speaker 6>because they were really unique when it seemed like they

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<v Speaker 6>had some some strange government it contracts, it seemed. But

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<v Speaker 6>just the origin story they came from basically a mental

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, supposedly the Marshall apple White was what. There's so

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<v Speaker 4>many conflicting statements of how he met, uh, Bonnie nettle.

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<v Speaker 4>Some say that they met together at a hospital when

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<v Speaker 4>Marshall apple White was going to check up on a

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<v Speaker 4>friend at a hospital and she was a nurse there,

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<v Speaker 4>and another said he was locked up in a mental

424
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<v Speaker 4>hospital and that's how they met. But Bonnie Nettles basically

425
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<v Speaker 4>influenced him into a lot of these belief structures. And

426
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<v Speaker 4>essentially what Marshall apple White and Bonnie Nettles did in

427
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<v Speaker 4>the beginnings, they traveled around to all of these spiritual

428
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<v Speaker 4>centers and all these New Age alternative belief systems in

429
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<v Speaker 4>the United States, and a lot of these centers and

430
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<v Speaker 4>like Buddhist temples and like talked with all these people

431
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<v Speaker 4>so that they can form their guidelines of how they

432
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<v Speaker 4>wanted to structure their cult and to get their.

433
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<v Speaker 6>That was manage real quick there, writer. So I just

434
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<v Speaker 6>I that was that kind of your take what they

435
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<v Speaker 6>were doing with these different because I did notice that.

436
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<v Speaker 6>So they did go to these strange They went from

437
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<v Speaker 6>Texas and they high tailed it. Their first stop was

438
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<v Speaker 6>Oregon on their to understand cults and recruit folks. And

439
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<v Speaker 6>I found you like that'd be a very unique story

440
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<v Speaker 6>that I don't you recall the town in Oregon that

441
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<v Speaker 6>they went to, because I that I don't recall.

442
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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not one hundred percent sure on the exact town

444
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<v Speaker 4>in Oregon, but supposedly that was their very first meeting

445
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<v Speaker 4>and they were handing out flyers around Oregon and they

446
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<v Speaker 4>were at this event center, and then they would and

447
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<v Speaker 4>people that went to that original first meeting in Oregon.

448
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<v Speaker 4>Uh so, like many people said that it was like

449
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<v Speaker 4>walking in and meeting uh Jesus Christ.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Right exactly right. Yeah, it was very beneficial for apple White.

451
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<v Speaker 6>I mean yeah, So I guess that town that they

452
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<v Speaker 6>went to was a cult from the nineteen thirties that

453
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<v Speaker 6>was banished to that town. I believe they were originally

454
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<v Speaker 6>in corp of Valis and then it was the Holy

455
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<v Speaker 6>Rollers and the interesting thing as far as these derivative

456
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<v Speaker 6>natures of these cults and stuff. I think that was

457
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<v Speaker 6>a great explanation because they did for some reason. If

458
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<v Speaker 6>you look at Marshall Appleway, the last thing I think

459
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<v Speaker 6>of is Jesus, right. So whatever you put on that,

460
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<v Speaker 6>let you put onto that hotel that night. He had

461
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<v Speaker 6>some magic going on. But when they redid a part

462
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<v Speaker 6>of my series I do here on Operation GCD is

463
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<v Speaker 6>a look at the grunge counterculture, comparing it to Dave

464
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<v Speaker 6>McGowan's treatment of Laurel Canyon. And when I was researching

465
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<v Speaker 6>Seattle's Pike Place at one point in time number of

466
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<v Speaker 6>years ago, I saw that the Habit's Gate cult had

467
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<v Speaker 6>bought one of those bricks that they do when they

468
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<v Speaker 6>like to raise money and restoration of like a city

469
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<v Speaker 6>area or whatnot, rehabilitation whatnot. So they were redoing Pike's

470
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<v Speaker 6>Place and they were selling these bricks. You could donate money,

471
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<v Speaker 6>get your name on a brick. The Heaven's Gate folks

472
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<v Speaker 6>bought a brick on the site where the Holy Rollers

473
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<v Speaker 6>cult leader was murdered seventy years prior whatever sixty years prior,

474
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<v Speaker 6>which is that is the cult that live in that

475
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 6>Oregon town that they recruited. So this weird derivative kind

476
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<v Speaker 6>of cult network nature. I don't understand it, but all

477
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<v Speaker 6>these cults seem to they seem to know who to

478
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<v Speaker 6>talk to, right, you know what I mean?

479
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And they would probably know that by traveling around

480
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<v Speaker 4>to and getting within these inner circles of this whole thing,

481
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.519
<v Speaker 4>and the Heaven's Gate thing really started to fall apart

482
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 4>whenever Bonnie Nettles died and she got brain cancer and

483
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<v Speaker 4>she didn't ascend into the fifth dimension to be transformed

484
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<v Speaker 4>into an extraterrestrial by the into the next evolutionary level

485
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<v Speaker 4>above human, right, because that's what their entire belief system

486
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<v Speaker 4>revolved around, was that this time was going to come

487
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<v Speaker 4>where they were going to be raptured up, which is

488
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<v Speaker 4>exactly like the Book of Revelation and Christianity. Christians believe

489
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<v Speaker 4>that a rapture is coming. It's all based around it

490
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<v Speaker 4>all has ties in christian And that's what the i

491
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.400
<v Speaker 4>AM called was also about what it had all of

492
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<v Speaker 4>its roots and all of its ideology based in Christianity,

493
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<v Speaker 4>and it was a patriotism cult. It was, you know,

494
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<v Speaker 4>because Saint Jermaine was the one that influenced the you know,

495
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 4>the the Nation State, and wrote the helped write the

496
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Declaration of Independence, like all the stuff. So then it

497
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:24.759
<v Speaker 4>becomes a patriotic thing. And then it's giving people a

498
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<v Speaker 4>little bit of taste of something familiar that they can

499
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<v Speaker 4>kind of sink their teeth in while taking it in

500
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:35.400
<v Speaker 4>like a semi new direction. And that's what a lot

501
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 4>of these cult members talk about within that you know

502
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 4>previously were in these types of cults. They were, Like

503
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<v Speaker 4>the reason that I was so drawn to it is

504
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 4>because I had never heard anything like it before. But really,

505
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 4>where all these calls got all their beliefs and their

506
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<v Speaker 4>ideologies is ripping off all these people that came before them.

507
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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I like what UFO series and called a cult Burrito.

508
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 4>No, it's called Burreto with the classic called Burrito.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Nick. Nick.

510
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<v Speaker 6>Did you get Did you get sucked into the OTO

511
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<v Speaker 6>through some of these some of these similar solid tactics.

512
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<v Speaker 2>No, I tell you the truth, I think they're more specific,

513
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 2>specific ideas that they have. You know, I wouldn't say

514
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>they have a lot of them. Actually probably pushed me away.

515
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 3>From it even more.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, No, it was just honestly the OTO Again,

517
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<v Speaker 2>like I said, it was the only order around me

518
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that fucked with magic openly as soon as you walked

519
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>in the door. And uh, between that and knowing that

520
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>it was so like eclectic with different types of practices,

521
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I know I'd be able to probably run into somebody

522
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>that might be interesting. I could learn from multiple people,

523
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>but no, like their specific stuff is just like a

524
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<v Speaker 2>little bit I'll tell you totally as a little bit too.

525
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<v Speaker 5>Much for me.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show and tell some some UFO slaps

527
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<v Speaker 3>from your neck of the woods, your old neck of

528
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<v Speaker 3>the woods in New York, New well, New Jersey, I

529
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<v Speaker 3>mean the whole I don't know.

530
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<v Speaker 6>You see some of the images, Like I watched the

531
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<v Speaker 6>news Nation clip Arler, they had some radar images. There's

532
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 6>drawns literally all across New Jersey right now for some reason.

533
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<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing that they're saying that they just

534
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 4>disappear and then like they go dark. That's a direct

535
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<v Speaker 4>quote from a lot of these people that they just

536
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<v Speaker 4>go dark. Well what does going dark mean? Like, do

537
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<v Speaker 4>I mean that they just turned the lights are just

538
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 4>being turned off? Or like what why could you not

539
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 4>see this on a thermal imaging camera? Or you know,

540
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 4>the military has freaking military grade night vision goggles. I

541
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 4>mean I've used them. Yeah, I've used them at UFO conferences.

542
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.240
<v Speaker 4>Like you're telling me that people can, like civilians can

543
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 4>get these military grade night vision goggles. But the military

544
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have military grade night vision goggles.

545
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<v Speaker 3>I can assure you, right, Yeah, they do for sure.

546
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<v Speaker 6>They have something called In fact, they have something called

547
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<v Speaker 6>short wave infrared, which is different from the heat signature

548
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 6>infra red. Short wave infrared basically just detects mass, any

549
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 6>object with mass, so you can see through any fog,

550
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 6>any smoke for miles with a short waving red And.

551
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<v Speaker 4>Then they don't know what but yeah, they call them drones.

552
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't make any sense, like, oh, hey, yeah, these

553
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 4>are a bunch of drums, but we don't know what

554
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 4>they are. You just said what they were. You just

555
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 4>said that they were drones. Like how stupid do they

556
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 4>think that we are? They literally think these people think

557
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.200
<v Speaker 4>that we're the dumbest people on the planet.

558
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because the soul is nick, as I was explaining

559
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 6>to the folks of the interwebs, writer and I were

560
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 6>playing originally planning the show's scheduled a couple of weeks ago,

561
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<v Speaker 6>before all this current drone and quote unquote U A

562
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<v Speaker 6>f u A p ufo whatever they're calling these days flap,

563
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 6>but yeah, I mean it's literally everywhere, and the way

564
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.000
<v Speaker 6>that folks are acting about it just seems overtly ignorant

565
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 6>because it wasn't from yeah, the drones to what drones

566
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 6>are you talking about? To now writers got a clip

567
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 6>here they're manned vehicles.

568
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had a White House representative yesterday come out

569
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<v Speaker 4>and say that they're they're manned aircraft? So I what

570
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<v Speaker 4>are they? Are they from Iran? Are they Is it

571
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 4>a mothership from Iran? Is it Aliens? Is it UFOs?

572
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Is it UAPs? Is it freaking manned aircraft?

573
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<v Speaker 3>Like?

574
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<v Speaker 4>How can this be happening for so long? And then

575
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 4>they have no idea what it is? It makes your sense?

576
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.359
<v Speaker 4>But how's it going next? All right? And uh, I

577
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:18.400
<v Speaker 4>speak to you. How's it going?

578
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<v Speaker 1>Brother?

579
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<v Speaker 4>Good to see you. I love your shirt, bro, thank you,

580
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 4>thank you for today the Jason Jason for Christmas.

581
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<v Speaker 7>Bro.

582
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<v Speaker 6>Actually the thirteenth episode of live episode of Operation GCD

583
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<v Speaker 6>live here on Friday the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah, that's why I did it up.

585
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<v Speaker 3>That's this is an very good point though, Yeah, why

586
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 3>would these things need lights.

587
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<v Speaker 6>It seems like they want to be seen by having

588
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<v Speaker 6>these these various multi colored lights. For sure, it seems

589
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 6>the whole, the whole mess of it doesn't make a

590
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<v Speaker 6>lot of sense. But yell me pull up this this

591
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 6>clipper you brought rider because it's a good uh, it's

592
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 6>a good indicator of what's going on here with some

593
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<v Speaker 6>of this, some of this nonsense about these drones or

594
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<v Speaker 6>whatever they're supposed to be.

595
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here we go.

596
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<v Speaker 7>I just want to add a few comments on the

597
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 7>reports of drone activity here on the East Coast, particularly

598
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<v Speaker 7>in and around New Jersey. We have no evidence at

599
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 7>this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national

600
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 7>security or a public safety threat, or have a foreign nexus.

601
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 7>The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are investigating

602
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 7>these sightings, and they're working closely with state and local

603
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 7>law enforcement to provide resources using numerous detection methods to

604
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 7>better understand their origin. Using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies

605
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 7>provided by federal authorities. We have not been able to

606
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 7>and neither have state or local law enforcement of authorities

607
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.720
<v Speaker 7>corroborate any of the reported visual sightings.

608
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<v Speaker 4>See this is really strange. That what he just said

609
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<v Speaker 4>that it almost sounds like that they're denying that they're

610
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.559
<v Speaker 4>even there exactly.

611
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're like, we can't corroborate it. Wellt what does

612
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 3>that even mean? It's such a legally way to approach

613
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<v Speaker 3>the situation.

614
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<v Speaker 4>But then he goes on to say, and the rest

615
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 4>of this, it's only got about twenty more seconds left.

616
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<v Speaker 4>Then he goes on to say that we'll just listen

617
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<v Speaker 4>to it.

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<v Speaker 7>To the contrary, upon review of available imagery, it appears

619
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<v Speaker 7>that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft

620
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 7>that are being operated lawfully.

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<v Speaker 4>So he says that we can't coroborate any of the

622
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.880
<v Speaker 4>video footage from anything that was taken, but it appears

623
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<v Speaker 4>that they're manned aircraft, So which is it? Like, Yes,

624
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<v Speaker 4>it's the most ridiculous double speak that I've ever heard.

625
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<v Speaker 7>United States Post Guard is providing support to the state

626
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<v Speaker 7>of New Jersey and has confirmed that there is no

627
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<v Speaker 7>evidence of any foreign based involvement from coastal vessels. And importantly,

628
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<v Speaker 7>there are no reported or confirmed drone sightings in any

629
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<v Speaker 7>restricted airspace.

630
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<v Speaker 4>Which is completely opposite to what they originally said. They

631
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<v Speaker 4>said that it was that they were in restricted airspace

632
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 4>and it is so crazy, dude.

633
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<v Speaker 3>So there's been numerous reports of Lanley Air Force Base.

634
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<v Speaker 3>I know.

635
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 6>In fact Germany, number of air force bases in Germany

636
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 6>just today had more had some drone reports. So there's

637
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 6>been a number of military installations Edgewood Arsenal and they're

638
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:18.319
<v Speaker 6>in uh Redstone Arsenal. I believe whatever army weapons depot

639
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 6>there is in New Jersey that I can't currently think of.

640
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Edgewood, it wasn't Edgewood. Some of the first experimental uh

641
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 4>ultimate programs exactly.

642
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 3>That's their Maryland, good.

643
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Old Edgewood all the Army.

644
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 6>Where Frank Zappa grew up. And Frank Zappa was a

645
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 6>member of the Church of SubGenius, the UFO cult, right.

646
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, the Church of SubGenius. That's such a

647
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 4>wild When I covered that one as well, that one

648
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 4>was wild. I mean it was obviously it seemed like

649
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 4>a parody cult like that they were, because everything that

650
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.559
<v Speaker 4>their excuses like for why none of the stuff that happened,

651
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.680
<v Speaker 4>it was just like so ridiculous, like how could anybody

652
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 4>believe this stuff? Seemed to me to be like a

653
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 4>parody cult.

654
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Speaker 6>They definitely come off as a parody cult for sure,

655
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 6>but they definitely also like they seem to have some

656
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 6>actual belief system to them. I mean, to me, they

657
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 6>come off a lot of Discordian, but even the Discordies

658
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 6>that think have a have a pretty strong belief system

659
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 6>for claiming not to be a religion.

660
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Praise Bob, as they're saying right within the church SubGenius, Yeah,

661
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 3>praise Bob, Bob Dobbs.

662
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good Bob Dobbs. And that they actually got the

663
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:32.159
<v Speaker 4>photo out of a back of a freaking yellow phone

664
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 4>book and I found it in the back pages and

665
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.800
<v Speaker 4>then cut it out and made the made the version

666
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 4>of that Bob smoking cigar.

667
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>The characterized version of Bob. Yeah.

668
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.000
<v Speaker 6>He Well, that image is funny you mentioned that, because

669
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 6>that image is and the impact of this cult has

670
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 6>gone pretty far, not only Frank Zappa, but that image

671
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.360
<v Speaker 6>was used on the Sublime forty Ounce the Freedom album.

672
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh I didn't know. I didn't realize that.

673
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's the it's that Bob Dobbs image. The other

674
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 6>folks like Pee Wee Herman I believe was a was

675
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 6>a member maybe, uh, the least singer of DVO i've

676
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 6>read was a member of these folks. Across the spectrum

677
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 6>kind of a society.

678
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

679
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's uh.

680
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 6>I was trying to Maybe I was thinking the wrong guy.

681
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 6>David Berner was talking hands. Maybe that's what I was thinking. Devot,

682
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 6>thank you. Yeah, and my eighties bands mixed up.

683
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 4>Easy to Do.

684
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

685
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 6>Robert Anton Wilson was was was a part of the

686
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 6>Church of SubGenius. So one thing that really interested me

687
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 6>with the Church of SubGenius, Nick, are you familiar with

688
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 6>these folks, the Church of the.

689
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Subjects at all? So they do a lot of recruiting.

690
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 6>It seems within like they have a very mysterious kind

691
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 6>of background, right, Bob Dobbs, is this kind of character

692
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 6>that may exist or may may not exist in our

693
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 6>own timeline?

694
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Right? Writer? Is that kind of the story there? Am

695
00:35:58.880 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 3>I getting that right?

696
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:05.320
<v Speaker 4>It's basically right. It's like the basically a fictionalized, propped

697
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 4>up character that they've kind of created, and then they

698
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 4>gave them like a giant backstory behind them and created

699
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 4>all this mythology surrounding them. And one of the funniest

700
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 4>things about this cult was these UFOs were supposed to

701
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 4>show up at a certain time in a certain date,

702
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 4>and like they had this manuscript that was written from

703
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Bob Dobbs that only the heads of the cult could read.

704
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 4>And then they went out and it was supposed to

705
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 4>be on a certain date because Bob Dobbs apparently wrote

706
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 4>out a calendar of when the aliens were going to

707
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 4>show up. So they're all standing out in this field.

708
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 4>And then the aliens didn't show up, and they said

709
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:45.320
<v Speaker 4>that they mistakingly read the calendar wrong and they were

710
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 4>reading the calendar upside down. So that's the reason why

711
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 4>it didn't happen on that date. That was one of

712
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 4>the funniest cover ups of why the aliens didn't show up.

713
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.440
<v Speaker 2>That people can't realize they're looking at something upside I

714
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want them to tell me anything else, right, right, yeah,

715
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>you just you just right like I'm gonna fucking take

716
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.559
<v Speaker 2>my life, you know, might put my life in your

717
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 2>hands now.

718
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 3>Right yeah.

719
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 6>Well, And another interesting thing I find them interesting is

720
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 6>Bob Dobbs allegedly gets his messages, takes orders from an

721
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 6>alien named ion Io and and through some sort of

722
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 6>channeling procedures, right.

723
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's how the story goes.

724
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 6>In fact, there's a website called Ion and Bob which

725
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 6>kind of highlights this relationship. Not a very creative name,

726
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 6>it's just it is very descriptive of what you'll find there.

727
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 6>And one thing to interest me with this is the

728
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 6>intersection between characters like this Robert Anton Wilson included being

729
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 6>a member of the Church of the.

730
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 2>OK lose them.

731
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 4>Did he freeze? He froze? Yeah? Dang, Nick, is your

732
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 4>trying to shine baby? Get yeah?

733
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Right? I just had something into my mind too that

734
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask and it just totally threw me off.

735
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Now and the whole thought escape to me.

736
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Fuck yeah.

737
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 6>What I would saying was the the intersection between these

738
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 6>UFO Ancient Alliant cargo cults and conspiracy culture. Right, Robert

739
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 6>Anton Wilson is this major conspiracy culture figure.

740
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's.

741
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 6>Populated a lot of the modern day mythos surrounding the

742
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.280
<v Speaker 6>Illuminati and a number of other, you know, a number

743
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:18.679
<v Speaker 6>of other topics, but notably Bob Dobbs was very close

744
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 6>with May Brussel, who's this you know, kind of the

745
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 6>queen of conspiracy culture. In fact, you'll find Bob Dobbs

746
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 6>an ion in Bob dot Com. I'll put a link

747
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 6>in the in the show notes for folks of the interwebs.

748
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 6>We'll see Bob Dobbs is there at May Brussel's funeral

749
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 6>eighty eight.

750
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, there's so much overlap between the beliefs of these cults,

751
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 4>especially when it comes to the Cult of I Am

752
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 4>in their early thirties. Like if you just you know,

753
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 4>replaced Guy and Edna Ballard with Trump and JFK Jr.

754
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 4>You essentially have the q Andon cult, like I'd say, verbatim,

755
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 4>the exact same.

756
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's interesting you point that out, because isn't it

757
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 6>isn't there some associations with the q Andon movement and

758
00:38:58.360 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 6>the IM cult and members of the.

759
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, everything that they talk about is basically like the

760
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 4>exact same thing. Like the Cold of I Am talked

761
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 4>about how Saint Jermaine was going to come back and

762
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 4>then he was going to restore the gold standard to

763
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 4>the the Federal Reserve, and that the Saint Jermaine's trust

764
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 4>was going to be distributed to everyone evenly, just like

765
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 4>the QAnon call talks about Nasara Jasara and how we

766
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 4>have all this money and then like when all this

767
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 4>stuff happens, everyone's going to get millions of dollars in

768
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 4>their bank account.

769
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>And all that.

770
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 4>So it's like it's like verbatim, like almost the exact

771
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 4>same thing. You just switch up some characters in there.

772
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 4>And also the Court of I Am had many spiritual

773
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 4>things that are talked about to this very day. They

774
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>came up with the idea of twin rays, which is this,

775
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, love connection between the somebody like you're incarnated

776
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 4>on like someone's incarnated, and then your other self is

777
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.440
<v Speaker 4>incarnated and when you come together, you're complete and all that,

778
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 4>which is now what is called trim flames exactly.

779
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like that's just an excuse to keep having an

780
00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>unhealthy relationship go longer than that.

781
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 4>And then there's actually a twin flame cult too.

782
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that ship.

783
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>They were fucking crazy.

784
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I didn't do a show on it, but I've I've

785
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 4>learned about it and right up about it. Yeah. Well

786
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 4>they'll literally set up these people together and like make

787
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 4>them do all this like.

788
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Each other's twin flames, even if they had known.

789
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh really they so other. I see what you're saying.

790
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 3>They're convincing.

791
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 6>They're there, they're they're they're destined to be with one another.

792
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 6>Well that's what these cults do, right, They kind of

793
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 6>and they forced members to marry each other, and it

794
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 6>seems like the actual idea of marriage is very fluid

795
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 6>with a lot of these cults, including even scientology, where

796
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 6>they're just you know, they're they're these ancient aliens stuck

797
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 6>in these human bodies. So these marriages are very temporal.

798
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 6>They don't you know that, they don't have to take

799
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 6>them very seriously, so they're often discarding one spouse for

800
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:55.000
<v Speaker 6>another spouse within the cult.

801
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like the Colt Examiner's comment here, twin Flames came

802
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 4>from the God of the Gnostics. Which the thing about

803
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 4>these cults is they don't it doesn't matter who created

804
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.239
<v Speaker 4>it first, because they all copy off of each other.

805
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 4>It matters to popularize the idea, and the im cult

806
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 4>was very popular. They would make millions and millions of dollars.

807
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 4>They actually got sued in court for mail fraud because

808
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 4>they was sending these pamphlets to people and it promised

809
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 4>them all this stuff like spiritual ascension, like guy Ballard

810
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 4>had apparently had like this golden chair that you could

811
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 4>sit down in and you would have send to the

812
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 4>fifth dimension and like all this stuff. And they were

813
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 4>sending these pamphlets like in people's mailboxes in order to

814
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, entice people to send them money, to like

815
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 4>send them donations in the mail. And then eventually all

816
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 4>these people, after being scammed for a lot of years,

817
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 4>they ended up suing them back for millions of dollars

818
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 4>and all the money that they lost.

819
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 6>So it doesn't even come amongst the sign ptology crowd too. Right,

820
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 6>once they break free, they want to get all that

821
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 6>money back. So they start seeing them, Yeah, where do all.

822
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 4>My money go? What do you mean? What do you

823
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.280
<v Speaker 4>mean my money went to you build living a luxurious

824
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 4>life and having twenty five cars and living.

825
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 6>In a mansion, or in Scientology's cases, they start building

826
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 6>things called like these superpower building. We're supposed to be

827
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 6>able to go there and learn superpowers, you know, like

828
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 6>your a Marvel Comics character or something.

829
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Superpowers is a big thing, dude. Like they want to

830
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:34.639
<v Speaker 4>be able to learn how to be psychic. They want

831
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 4>to learn and get all these mystical abilities, and you know,

832
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 4>and that's what these a lot of these these cults,

833
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 4>and these leaders of these cults I promised their followers,

834
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Speaker 4>and none of it ever happens. I mean, that's what

835
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 4>the Heaven's Gate cald was telling their followers to just

836
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 4>go out into a field and hold your arms up

837
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 4>for freaking ever and wait for the UFOs to come

838
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 4>rest you and we'll send you up into the sky.

839
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 4>So they just had people randomly out there where I

840
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 4>can't around the fire, out there waiting for UFOs. And

841
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 4>they didn't say, oh, well, they're definitely going to come.

842
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 4>They say, if you go out there enough, they'll show up.

843
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 4>We don't know when it might be tomorrow, maybe next week,

844
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 4>next month, next year, ten years. But you just got

845
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 4>to keep doing it.

846
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 6>And that same attitude is permeated again as you pointed

847
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 6>out a number number of examples of this derivative nature

848
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 6>of these cults, because then you have folks like Steven Greer,

849
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 6>who's kind of at the epicenter. I think of this

850
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 6>alien nix like no nothing.

851
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>And Cargo Coult stuff.

852
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 6>Because you have Aaron Rodgers, one of the biggest sports

853
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 6>figures going on one of the biggest sports shows, Pat McAfee,

854
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.920
<v Speaker 6>I believe yesterday or today, talking about how he was

855
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 6>going to go spend tonight with some lasers because he's

856
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 6>in New Jersey with the Jets. He's gonna go spend

857
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 6>some night tonight with some lasers and meditate trying to

858
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 6>contact these UFOs and drones falling over New Jersey using

859
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 6>Steven Greer's CE five method.

860
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 4>Wow, yeah, see all you gotta do. See it's it's

861
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.679
<v Speaker 4>transferred and it's turned into something to for now. Like

862
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 4>back then it was like through the mail, it was like,

863
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, send me money and now grant you you'll

864
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 4>you'll send it into the fifth dimension mention next to

865
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 4>next evolutionary level above human and be transform into an

866
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.880
<v Speaker 4>extraterrestrial from UFOs. And now it's download my app for

867
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 4>nine ninety nine and go out into a field with

868
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 4>your friends in contact daily. Right, the exact same thing.

869
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what it is. Right, is this kind of like

870
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.519
<v Speaker 3>you just go out there and you think about it? Maybe?

871
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that? I think that's what Stephen grew is kind

872
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 3>of d.

873
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're supposed to somehow communicate with the UFOs, the

874
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 4>aliens that are inside the UFOs. You're supposed to telepathically

875
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 4>send them your coordinate of exactly where you are on

876
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 4>the Earth, and somehow they receive that message and then

877
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:50.760
<v Speaker 4>they show up in their craft.

878
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Sounds almost like magic, doesn't It sounds very cult ritualistics now,

879
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 3>doesn't it.

880
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this is just my opinion. I think

881
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 2>Stephen gri is using those people to do something else.

882
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.280
<v Speaker 2>How do you think if any anything in the Skies

883
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.960
<v Speaker 2>it's due to him and a few other people there.

884
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 6>Well, you gotta look, you fund at him right, then

885
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 6>you got you got people like Lawrence Rockefeller. Who Lawrence Rockefeller,

886
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure riders picked up on a number of alien

887
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 6>projects he's financed over the years, besides just Stephen.

888
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Greer scam scam ontess I think, I hate to say it,

889
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>who's that Greer?

890
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

891
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Absolutely? Well? Is that is that correct?

892
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Right?

893
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 6>Lawrence Rockefeller was a big financier of one of these

894
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 6>activities for many years. I mean he's passed now, but

895
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 6>Career was a recipient of a lot of money from

896
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 6>my from him.

897
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 3>I believe there's some other characters as well.

898
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 4>Well. It's so interesting because so many of these people

899
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:51.639
<v Speaker 4>are getting funding from private organizations and uh and and

900
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.760
<v Speaker 4>private funders. Well we'll never really know about that have

901
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 4>passed away, and then like, you know, where do they

902
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 4>even get I mean, Stephen Grea said that he was

903
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 4>like what did you say? It was an emergency doctor

904
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. And then like in the beginning, he's showing

905
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 4>up with all these like bodyguards. He has like a

906
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 4>giant entourage like around him of like ten people, and

907
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 4>he's showing up in like black ass uvs and stuff,

908
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, he's got all this money

909
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 4>and he's wearing these super fancy watches and stuff like. Bro, like,

910
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 4>you're telling me you're making all this money off of

911
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 4>this freaking app that you made for people to contact

912
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 4>UFOs and aliens.

913
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

914
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 6>No, I think he kind of erupted out of that

915
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 6>same scene of like people like Linda moulten Howe. Maybe

916
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 6>again with some of that financing from.

917
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Lady she looks like a.

918
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 6>She looks the fourth Well, there's more people that are

919
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 6>on the forefront of this financing, I think with folks

920
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 6>like Christopher Mellon, right, he's big. He's been big in

921
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 6>the intelligence the Melon banking family, but very influential in

922
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 6>the defense intelligence aspects of these programs.

923
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Is that is that? Is that an accurate statement?

924
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, a lot of these people are funded by directly,

925
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 4>directly or indirectly by the government or somebody from the government,

926
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 4>and the whole thing is to I personally believe is

927
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 4>to try and dissuade people from all this stuff being

928
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 4>like extraterrestrial craft. Just as we've seen these craft over

929
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 4>in New Jersey, like they're now calling them drones, they

930
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 4>didn't come out and say that they're unidentified flying objects

931
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 4>or their UAPs. I think that this is actually a

932
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 4>push because they let the genie out of the bottle

933
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.440
<v Speaker 4>with all the missing disinformation surrounding UFOs and extraterrestrials, which

934
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 4>comes directly from the government. All of the theories that

935
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 4>you've heard about aliens and UFOs came directly from the government,

936
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 4>from the NSA and from the Air Force running psychological

937
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 4>operations on Paul Benowitz, which then spread out across to

938
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 4>all of ufology and those stories.

939
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Get Yeah, he was very big in the seeding of

940
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these ideas.

941
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.079
<v Speaker 4>Pretty much all of them, every single one that you

942
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 4>can possibly think about for the top of your head,

943
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 4>came from Paul Benowitz.

944
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and that was kind of what Richard Dodie and

945
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 6>some of the OSI guys were kind of feeding him, right.

946
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. The the real person that, well, the real group

947
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 4>of people that were actually in charge of that really

948
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 4>wasn't even the Air Force. It was the NSSA. They

949
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 4>were the ones that were really responsible for all the

950
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.000
<v Speaker 4>missing disinformation surrounding Paul Benimas, because they broke into his

951
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 4>home replaced his computer with an NSA modified computer to

952
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 4>make him believe that he's in communication through his laptop

953
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 4>or through his computer at the time with extraterrestrial aliens,

954
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.840
<v Speaker 4>and he was decoding all these messages. You know that

955
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 4>they were telling them that he was the chosen one

956
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 4>and that they'll only communicate with him, and that they're

957
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.079
<v Speaker 4>here for Earth's resources, and that they've signed a contract

958
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 4>with the government to build these bases. And that's where

959
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 4>all the mythology of the Dulce Base in New Mexico

960
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 4>all comes out of with Phil Schneider, and then Bill

961
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Cooper runs with all these stories, and then you get

962
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 4>the whole contract with aliens and extraterrestrills all thrown in there,

963
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 4>which also came from Paul Benewitz, which then later Bill

964
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Cooper turned into a contract with aliens and Eisenhower. It's

965
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:10.079
<v Speaker 4>all a psychological operation.

966
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 6>Sure, great synopsis of like thirty thirty about thirty years

967
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:18.360
<v Speaker 6>of psychological operations right there.

968
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I crammed it in really quickly because I've talked

969
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.239
<v Speaker 4>about it so much, but I.

970
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 6>Summary, yeah, no, Paul and Paul Benno was Yeah, he

971
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 6>was very I mean they drove that dude nuts, didn't I.

972
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even literally went out of his mind. He had

973
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 4>to be hospitalized because it was just so ridiculously paranoid.

974
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:38.079
<v Speaker 4>They had his house bugged. The Air Force had his

975
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 4>house bug. NSA had his house bug that was set

976
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 4>up across the street and an unmarked NSA van and

977
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 4>then beam these frequencies into his house.

978
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Was he just what was it Kirkland Air Force Base?

979
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that where he was out of?

980
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? It was right, Yeah, he was just right out.

981
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 4>You could see Kirkland Air Force Base from the back

982
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:57.880
<v Speaker 4>patio of his house.

983
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 6>Which is a big is a big store, that's a

984
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 6>big I mean a lot of folks concentrate on, like right,

985
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.280
<v Speaker 6>Patterson for Project blue Book and the Nazis out of

986
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 6>out of Roswell and whatnot down there, the whole Roswell thing,

987
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.320
<v Speaker 6>because Roswell was obviously staffed with Nazis down there as

988
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.440
<v Speaker 6>well at that time. But a lot a lot of

989
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.639
<v Speaker 6>that stuff get you know, gets alleged to be shipped

990
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 6>right Patterson, which seems b record of that occurring. But

991
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 6>Kirkland was also part of the same command that Air

992
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 6>Force Material Command, the the Weapons Testy and Development Command

993
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 6>of the Air Force, so that and that's.

994
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 4>What they were doing at Kirkland. Yeah, they were just

995
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 4>doing experimental aircraft. And Paul was seeing this from his

996
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 4>backyard and he thought that it was extraterrestrials.

997
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

998
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, very I mean very like the upper echelon of

999
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 6>secrecy kind of projects would have been tested there for sure, yep.

1000
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 4>And no one thought they'd go out there and drive

1001
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 4>their car up to Kirkland Air Force Base and see

1002
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.000
<v Speaker 4>if this was a freaking helicopter or like some kind

1003
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 4>of drone technology and not a unfl Come on, give

1004
00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 4>me a break. I mean, Bill was a shit. I'm

1005
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 4>blinking on his name. I've talked about him so much. Bill.

1006
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 4>He was involved with the Paul Bennowitz affair. It was

1007
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Richard Dody and William Moore. Bill Moore, William wore same

1008
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.159
<v Speaker 4>same thing. He pretty much blew the whistle in this

1009
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.239
<v Speaker 4>entire freaking operation and was like got up in front

1010
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 4>of a Moufon conference in nineteen seventy eight and was like, listen,

1011
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 4>this whole thing, like if you if you strip away

1012
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 4>all of ufology down to his bare bones, like you're

1013
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 4>left with the Paul Bennowitz case. Like that's what it is.

1014
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:34.239
<v Speaker 4>And he was telling all these people on stage and

1015
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.280
<v Speaker 4>at this move on UFO conference, and like people are

1016
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 4>like booing them off the stage. They didn't want to

1017
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:40.920
<v Speaker 4>hear it. They didn't want to hear that this was

1018
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 4>all a big giant fabrication by the government. But the UH,

1019
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 4>but it's gotten to the point when it's cold, been

1020
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 4>allowed to go on for so long that there's really

1021
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 4>no closing the lid back on this bottle.

1022
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Sure, oh, absolutely not.

1023
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 6>No, that's a great point because I was just what

1024
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.280
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna mention here, was familiar with the the

1025
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 6>New York Posts. UH came out with a present an

1026
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 6>investigatory report of the summer saying that a the Pentagon

1027
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 6>had been infiltrated by an alien religion.

1028
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's what it kind of seems like. I mean,

1029
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 4>that's the the arrow report that came out of Era.

1030
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 4>One of the last things that they did, they were like, listen,

1031
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.239
<v Speaker 4>this is like circular reporting. This is all coming from

1032
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 4>believers in this phenomenon when we have no substantial evidence

1033
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 4>that any of this stuff exists.

1034
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Yep, No, that you're spot on.

1035
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 6>That's exactly what this this this covers is that doctor

1036
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Sean Kirkirkpatrick and are a r report.

1037
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.800
<v Speaker 4>And a gym to the entire thing. Like you know,

1038
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 4>he came out there, which is what the government's official

1039
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 4>stance has always been on UFOs. They've always said the

1040
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 4>same thing.

1041
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 6>And the the journalists that did this series, if you're

1042
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 6>if you're not familiar with them, I believe his named

1043
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 6>Stephen green Street and.

1044
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Stephen green Street really great researcher, I guess yeah.

1045
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.599
<v Speaker 6>He Are you familiar with his is in depth investigation

1046
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 6>into the Skinwalker ranch?

1047
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I am, man. I'm also he also recently interviewed.

1048
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Uh he did a two part interview on doctor Sean

1049
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Kirkpatrick as well for the New York Post.

1050
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you are from that's that's part what that's

1051
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 3>a great series. Yeah, that's that was the part one

1052
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 3>in that I thought that was a.

1053
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 4>And he's a real journalist, He's someone that really goes

1054
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 4>in there and I asked the hard questions him uh

1055
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:33.519
<v Speaker 4>mcwest and John Greenwall Junior or like some of the

1056
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 4>best people in this community that actually file four your

1057
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.199
<v Speaker 4>requests and try and get answers and not just believe

1058
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.199
<v Speaker 4>what everybody says over and over and.

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00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 6>Over again, right, And I just believe the twelve foot

1060
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 6>grades were coming to help us all out and save

1061
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 6>save the gold reserves.

1062
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that the ascended Masters are going to come back

1063
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 4>and save us from all of our problems.

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00:53:57.679 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 3>I like Stephen green Street much like myself.

1065
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:01.920
<v Speaker 6>He's a fellow, he's an ex Mormon, so I appreciate

1066
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:05.639
<v Speaker 6>his his h skepticism surrounding the Mormon you know, alien

1067
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 6>business as well versus especially as covers of Skinwalker Ranch,

1068
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 6>which is full of Mormons, the whole, it's the whole.

1069
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 6>It seems to be a whole Mormon operation. I think so,

1070
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean, and then next got some strong feelings in

1071
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 6>that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well almost everybody. I mean, listen, I understanding your where

1073
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 2>you are, there's gonna be Mormons, but everybody except for Bigelow,

1074
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>which I couldn't really prove, but I'm sure he might

1075
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 2>be because there is a big olod name that runs

1076
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:38.199
<v Speaker 2>all the way back to like it's Joseph Smith, I think,

1077
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 2>or at least you're right, yeah, that, I mean they

1078
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>so like that name is in the Mormon thing, but

1079
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 2>everybody who's owned that house Mormons.

1080
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh, contracts from Mormons.

1081
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 2>The people who are working over there now half of

1082
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.079
<v Speaker 2>them are Mormons. Brandon Fugel is a Mormon. The guy

1083
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 2>that his right hand man is more. What's up with

1084
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 2>all these Mormons in this UFO shit over there?

1085
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:06.559
<v Speaker 3>It seems related, doesn't it.

1086
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Utah is nothing but full full of them.

1087
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 4>And also Utah is a really big place where like

1088
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 4>these behavioral team modification camps go on as well. Oh,

1089
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.320
<v Speaker 4>they'll take these uh, these teens that are supposedly in trouble.

1090
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 4>Their family pays this company to come and abduct their

1091
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 4>child out of their room and basically handcoff them and

1092
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:33.719
<v Speaker 4>throw them in the back of an suv and then

1093
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.199
<v Speaker 4>take them to Utah in the wilderness and have them

1094
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 4>hike for three months.

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00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 6>Utah writerliar the the any of the minor UFO reports there. Specifically,

1096
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 6>the book had never happened. Volume one US Air Force

1097
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 6>UFO cover.

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<v Speaker 4>Up revealed, I'm not familiar with that. P Thomas, No.

1099
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 6>I know Panas has broughtup to my attention before. I'm

1100
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 6>not familiar with it either, but definitely have to look

1101
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.440
<v Speaker 6>into that one because I was stationed in I retired

1102
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 6>Air Force into twenty years as an MP and that

1103
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 6>was my first assignment was mounts from Air Force based

1104
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Great Falls, and there's a lot of UFO lore surrounding

1105
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 6>the nuclear missile sites up there.

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00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's like they're trying to paint this like threat

1107
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 4>that that they're a threat and that we need to

1108
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 4>which can only be described as the reason that they

1109
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:31.079
<v Speaker 4>would do that is so that some sort of threat

1110
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 4>could actually happen, and then it's really our technology, and

1111
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 4>then they have to defend us from our own technology

1112
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 4>with our technology, so then they can reveal that it's

1113
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 4>our technology.

1114
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>And if you ask folks like that needs to be the.

1115
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 4>Only way around this quagmire that's been that's been put

1116
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 4>in with this whole UFO topic, that's really the only

1117
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 4>way around it. Stage of threat that is our own

1118
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:03.119
<v Speaker 4>craft and you say that there we don't know what

1119
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.400
<v Speaker 4>they are, and then that we have to create this

1120
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 4>craft in order to defend ourselves from the craft, and

1121
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 4>then that's the way that they basically then they defeat

1122
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 4>that that enemy and then they're like, oh, guess what

1123
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 4>we now have all this technology when we've had it

1124
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.920
<v Speaker 4>since the fifties or working on the fifties.

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00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's moddel right. We gotta got to create the

1126
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 3>enemy to fight the enemy.

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00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 2>The thing is too that I think is interesting is

1129
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:35.400
<v Speaker 2>like the stuff that we're seeing now that like, oh,

1130
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's drones, Maybe it's not. It's like, well, like

1131
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm still sure the government has better technology than that

1132
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 2>if we think that's a drone, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1133
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even like the stuff that we're being handed

1134
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>now is like quite possibilities to blow it off. Really

1135
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 2>is high tech stuff. I have a fucking drone, you

1136
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. How many people have drones? Like

1137
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that's not you know what I'm saying, Like, I just

1138
00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.519
<v Speaker 2>feel like you get even a bullshit answer to cover

1139
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 2>up that is just old school technology compared to what

1140
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 2>the government has anyway, and.

1141
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, and you try and you go take your drone, Nick,

1142
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 4>and go try and fly it over a military installation.

1143
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 4>What's going to happen?

1144
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 6>Thomas Crooks? Some affluid over restricted airspace at the July thirteenth.

1145
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, swin airput the won't even let me lift

1146
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 2>go up exactly.

1147
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.079
<v Speaker 4>They're banned in a lot of areas like you can

1148
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 4>use them so but yet these ones will just let

1149
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.000
<v Speaker 4>fly around all over the place and not do anything

1150
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 4>about them. It's so reminiscent of I'm sure you guys

1151
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 4>remember I talked about this on my show today on

1152
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Raised by Giants with Ryan Gable. It's very reminiscent of

1153
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 4>exactly what happened a year ago with the Chinese spy balloon,

1154
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 4>do you guys, It's almost identical, and it happened in

1155
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 4>the almost the exact same month a year ago. The

1156
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.960
<v Speaker 4>same thing was happening, but instead of them being drones,

1157
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 4>they were Chinese spiballs.

1158
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.679
<v Speaker 6>Flying over places like Mine Air Force Base, mounts from

1159
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:08.400
<v Speaker 6>Air Force Base.

1160
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Same.

1161
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 6>So they've been doing that because again there's been calens

1162
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 6>reports out of Langley Air Force Base in Virginia Beach.

1163
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 6>They've been having all sorts of incursions by some some

1164
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 6>sort of craft for at least a month.

1165
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting you're talking about like, uh, spy

1166
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>balloons and we're talking about drones. I've always wondered, I mean,

1167
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's possible. Who knows but like Dji, it's

1168
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of a common brand that everybody uses for drones

1169
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>because they make them underneath a weight where you don't

1170
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>have to register them, so it's a lot easier just

1171
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to fly your drone anywhere. Really, that's all made by China,

1172
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm like, if there was some

1173
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.559
<v Speaker 2>way for them to relay everything that we were filming,

1174
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this country is basically mapping itself to China

1175
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 2>with those drones.

1176
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's a good theory.

1177
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of Yeah, well, because it's huge,

1178
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.199
<v Speaker 2>everybody uses that fucking company.

1179
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 3>And I know being seen right here.

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01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 6>NORAD's commander just told us about Langley Air Force drone incursions.

1181
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 6>It had been going on there for a while. And

1182
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 6>is this broke two months ago? I believe almost two

1183
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 6>months ago.

1184
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm trying to bring up this article right now,

1185
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.559
<v Speaker 4>which is the US, the UK and Australia using AI

1186
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 4>power drone swarms and breaking military exercise, which is unbelievable.

1187
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Okay here it is. Okay, So the US, the UK

1188
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:44.199
<v Speaker 4>and Australia test AI power drone swarms and ground barricing

1189
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 4>military exercise. August thirteenth, twenty twenty four and the significant

1190
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 4>development for drone technology. The military Corporation in the United States,

1191
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.480
<v Speaker 4>United Kingdom and Australia has been conducting joint exercises testing

1192
01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 4>and lamalless drones equipped with artificial intelligence capabilities. Trials took

1193
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 4>place over Fort Ireland, California, mark over major milestone and

1194
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 4>implications of the rookous defense pack between the three nations,

1195
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 4>reported by The Times. So these are essentially AI power

1196
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:18.960
<v Speaker 4>drones and they run in like clusters and like this

1197
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:23.360
<v Speaker 4>is like a picture of what they what they look like.

1198
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Sure, it's a bad it's a bad week for AI

1199
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 3>for folks in AI.

1200
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 6>They got that one whistle blower he just got they

1201
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.880
<v Speaker 6>found him dead today from Open AI, the Open AI

1202
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 6>whistle blower. And then the the fellow that allegedly murked

1203
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.079
<v Speaker 6>that United Health CEO. He was a Ivy League Top

1204
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.320
<v Speaker 6>Honors kind of guy with the computer sciences and a

1205
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 6>master's degree in AI.

1206
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 4>So well, you also have those people that's just that

1207
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:51.280
<v Speaker 4>just came out that who's the creators of the Pokemon

1208
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Go app? Have you guys? Do you guys know about this?

1209
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I don't Pokemon Pokemon Go.

1210
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I Go type it in and try and find it.

1211
01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, while you're doing that, I got a good

1212
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.639
<v Speaker 6>example of those drones. You were just talking about their

1213
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 6>writer as far as what they can do. And I

1214
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 6>don't know if anyone saw this, but over the summer

1215
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.400
<v Speaker 6>in the city of Atlanta, they used a bunch of

1216
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.920
<v Speaker 6>those drones that writer was just showing and they put

1217
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 6>Steve Harvey's face over the city of Atlanta with some

1218
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:25.079
<v Speaker 6>of those drones.

1219
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they did this at the Super Bowl one year

1220
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:32.440
<v Speaker 4>as well.

1221
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.440
<v Speaker 6>That was floating over the city of Atlanta. Could you imagine.

1222
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:36.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, like, you can do a lot of stuff

1223
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.199
<v Speaker 6>with that kind of technology. So they want to convince

1224
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:41.360
<v Speaker 6>folks with some wild stuff. I think it's certainly possible

1225
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.280
<v Speaker 6>when you can put I mean, that's a pretty clear

1226
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:45.760
<v Speaker 6>image of Steve Harvey's face that was floating over Atlanta.

1227
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:48.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, there's also an article that I showed on my

1228
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 4>show today with Ryan Gable that the advertising agencies are

1229
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:58.119
<v Speaker 4>wanting to use drone technology for advertising their company in

1230
01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 4>the sky. And that's what that looks like of Steve.

1231
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.239
<v Speaker 4>That would be a great advertisement in the sky. It's

1232
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 4>not just on billboards and on commercials, as in the

1233
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 4>freaking sky now.

1234
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sounds like Back to the Future really got the

1235
01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 3>billboards in the sky?

1236
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is the Nitanic Nitonic or house. The Pokemon

1237
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Go app is player data is training and AI map models.

1238
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:26.320
<v Speaker 4>So the players of Pokemon Go may not have realized that,

1239
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 4>but they've been training more than their Pokemon. Nitanic, the

1240
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:32.280
<v Speaker 4>developer behind the popular mobile game Pokemon Go, announced last

1241
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 4>week that it's building an AI model to map the

1242
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.360
<v Speaker 4>physical world. This large geospatial model would utilize data collective

1243
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 4>from players to achieve spatial intelligence, and the company said

1244
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.199
<v Speaker 4>in a ball Pokemon Go was first released in twenty sixteen,

1245
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 4>and it's an augmented reality game where players use their

1246
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 4>mobile phones to find and catch virtual Pokemon in the

1247
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.559
<v Speaker 4>real world. The game will had more more than six

1248
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 4>hundred million downloads since release places blah blah blah blah,

1249
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:02.719
<v Speaker 4>But essentially it's they use this app as like a

1250
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:08.480
<v Speaker 4>back door to map the entire world. Yeah, Nitanic's model

1251
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:12.480
<v Speaker 4>is training and processing data using geolocation information from scans

1252
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 4>players submit of the real world locations while playing Pokemon

1253
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Go and other Nitanic games. Always an agenda, always an agenda, vine,

1254
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 4>and nothing's for free.

1255
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Right right.

1256
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was just reading something about Nianti their day.

1257
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 6>It's interesting to bring that up. I hadn't heard that

1258
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:34.000
<v Speaker 6>Pokemon one, but that is very interesting. I'm not jocked.

1259
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Nordica was doing stuff like that too. Who random Nordica

1260
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:39.920
<v Speaker 2>always wondered about that app too.

1261
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh what's what's that one do?

1262
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like, since you around and like you're

1263
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:46.039
<v Speaker 2>supposed to like fuck, what was it sending you to?

1264
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I think it would send you to random places

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01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 2>that like you'd ask to try to look for you

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01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.519
<v Speaker 2>type something in it would send you there, like something

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01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 2>would be there like it.

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01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I sort of remember that.

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01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm looking at them and we.

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01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Cover them on the Occult Rejects because we thought it

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01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 2>was weird. But this was like probably three years ago.

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01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this was a really long time ago. Yeah it was.

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01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:09.480
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty popular. And then you also have like

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01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.719
<v Speaker 4>the geocaching thing too, like coordinates where.

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01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 2>That's what I think it was doing with geoe cashing.

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01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, geo cashing. Sure, that's pretty popular. Looks like

1278
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 6>some other folks know about this app.

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01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I.

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01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Think it became popular on Roda if I'm not mistaken.

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01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.880
<v Speaker 2>That there's a couple like YouTube accounts that blew up

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01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:29.960
<v Speaker 2>because I think they found like.

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01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.599
<v Speaker 1>A body, so.

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01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 3>Found a body.

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01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.400
<v Speaker 2>That was another thing too. I felt like around that

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01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.639
<v Speaker 2>time is where you got the whole body it was

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01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.840
<v Speaker 2>true crime ship with social media.

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01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, everyone's just finding dead bodies around that time. Now,

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01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 6>you're right, because that was around the same time. But

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01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.039
<v Speaker 6>that that's the case you always tell me about. You

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01:05:56.119 --> 01:06:00.360
<v Speaker 6>always mentioned to me that Il Rodney and every Rodney

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01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.800
<v Speaker 6>or Kylie Brodney, yeah whatever his name is.

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01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of those things. Yeah, No, that's a good

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01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 3>point for sure.

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01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't there like a crime or a true crime case.

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01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 4>It was also like supposedly gained evidence from using Google

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01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Earth or something like that.

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01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Gary Patito.

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<v Speaker 4>It might have been in the one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she was the one that her boyfriend threw

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01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 3>off a cliff or something like that.

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01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 6>Maybe could be I could be mistaken cause of death,

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01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.000
<v Speaker 6>but yeah, she disappeared with her boyfriend or something like that.

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01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So it's like the Internet. I can find so much,

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01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 4>so many different things dude as want, but we can't

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01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:39.239
<v Speaker 4>know what these freaking drones are or where they're from.

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01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 4>When they've been in our airspace for a really long time.

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01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.000
<v Speaker 4>But you know, we can find out murders, unsolved murders

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01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:45.639
<v Speaker 4>on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that makes you makes you wonder more

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01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.280
<v Speaker 2>if it's actually our own governments because not giving us

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01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 2>an excuse what it is because it's a ship. Sure,

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01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Like I just don't want to give you a reason

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01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:56.599
<v Speaker 2>why because it's always.

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01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we're running some sort of operations, just like

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01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 4>the Chinese spy balloons. Like you know, there was no

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01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 4>repercussions on China for having those spy balloons just rolling

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01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 4>around the United States for weeks on end before they

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01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.199
<v Speaker 4>were shot down. And also it's like and it could

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01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:17.559
<v Speaker 4>work the opposite way too, it could be our technology

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01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 4>and then something happens, because I'm pretty sure that people

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01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.360
<v Speaker 4>are gonna start shooting them now, they're like random people

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01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 4>are gonna bring out their guns and they're gonna start

1324
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 4>shooting these drones, and mark my words, just want to happen.

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01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Possibly take a few out if you had fire, you know,

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01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:35.159
<v Speaker 2>decent fucking fireworks.

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01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Trump posted on true Social tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>If the government is not going to identify them, get

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01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:40.760
<v Speaker 6>out your guns, start shooting.

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01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 3>No way, he really said that he did absolutely. Oh

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01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.360
<v Speaker 3>my god, I'll pull up the exact statement.

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01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 6>I was cracking up as soon as you said that

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01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.159
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna start That's exactly what people were gonna do,

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01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:55.039
<v Speaker 6>especially if you tell them to do They're like, yeah,

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01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:56.199
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna start shooting stuff.

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01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, that's what they did with the Chinese. I'm

1337
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:04.159
<v Speaker 4>pretty sure that there was some people in like Wyoming

1338
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.719
<v Speaker 4>or Nebraska or something like that was that was also

1339
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.320
<v Speaker 4>shooting at the Chinese Spi balloon because the government would

1340
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.519
<v Speaker 4>take it down. So, I mean, that's just that's a

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01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.639
<v Speaker 4>reoccurring thing. So why would people not start Yeah, would

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01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:20.560
<v Speaker 4>they not just start shooting bullets in the era these drones? Yeah,

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01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 4>for sure, that's the experiment. That's what they would be doing. Right, Like,

1344
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:29.640
<v Speaker 4>what how can we what what will people do if

1345
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:34.039
<v Speaker 4>we don't give them the proper type of information, Like

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01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.239
<v Speaker 4>are they there? Are they going to go rogue on us?

1347
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Or are they going to stay calm about it and

1348
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:41.000
<v Speaker 4>let us handle the situation.

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01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:44.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a good question because I think I want

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01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.119
<v Speaker 6>to kind of touch on that exact point when we

1351
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:50.479
<v Speaker 6>pull up this is their post or true social posts

1352
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 6>that get put on twist or or Donald Trump mystery

1353
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:55.520
<v Speaker 6>drone sightings all over the country.

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01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Can this really be happening without our government's knowledge? Obviously not.

1355
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I there's a lot of misspellings here. I don't, but

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01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.279
<v Speaker 3>I think it says I don't. I don't think.

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01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:10.640
<v Speaker 6>So let the public know and now otherwise shut them down,

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01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 6>shoot them down. I believe he's what he meant DJT.

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01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:16.119
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I think they're absoutely gonna start.

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01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 4>Wow, They're gonna start shooting at these drones. I bet you.

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01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.600
<v Speaker 4>As soon as we're done with this conversation. Uh THEI

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01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 4>our social media algorithms will pick up this conversation on

1363
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.079
<v Speaker 4>my phone. As soon as we're done with this, I'll

1364
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 4>see a video on on Facebook of people shooting at drones.

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01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.760
<v Speaker 6>I expect nothing less, especially to focus like Montana, North

1366
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:43.439
<v Speaker 6>Dakota popping stuff off.

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01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:45.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh god.

1368
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.039
<v Speaker 6>I think a lot of the secrecy, though, is surrounded

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01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 6>in the in this subject matter, because the intersects would

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01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.159
<v Speaker 6>get out with just the occult, but also with with

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01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 6>the ocult and politics. And I often use the example

1373
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 6>of John Podesta as this example, because he's so prominent

1374
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 6>in the alien conversation, putting it perpetrating all these a

1375
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 6>lot of these ideas on Ancient on Ancient Aliens television

1376
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 6>show on the History Channel. But he's also seemingly an

1377
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.520
<v Speaker 6>occultists with things like the Wiki League's emails. He's being

1378
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.560
<v Speaker 6>asked for things such as a thlemic favor from the

1379
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:20.399
<v Speaker 6>Yale librarian, you know, university librarians, so seemingly they have

1380
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:22.520
<v Speaker 6>an understanding of what that term the limic means. That

1381
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.159
<v Speaker 6>polemic favor happened to be a private meeting with Barack Obama,

1382
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:30.119
<v Speaker 6>which the guy was asking for because Podesta was Obama's

1383
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:35.119
<v Speaker 6>top top top guy, top counselor or you know whatever

1384
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:35.760
<v Speaker 6>you want to call him.

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01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.479
<v Speaker 3>Overlord, dark seth, overlord is I like to like to

1386
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:40.159
<v Speaker 3>phrase it, But yeah, I mean he's just.

1387
01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Brought up Obama, bro, And I told you I did

1388
01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 4>not want to go in the Obama Well we will.

1389
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 3>We will go down that path. We will go down

1390
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 3>that path.

1391
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.680
<v Speaker 6>But with John Podessa, you know, he's he's one of

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01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:52.399
<v Speaker 6>the forefront of like things like the season premieres of

1393
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:55.800
<v Speaker 6>Ancient Aliens, right like, you know, I think it's something

1394
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:58.079
<v Speaker 6>like something along those lines of characters like that that

1395
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 6>seemingly put the put the stop, you know, and any

1396
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.039
<v Speaker 6>of this information or any of this discussion or any honest,

1397
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:05.880
<v Speaker 6>objective discussion on the matter.

1398
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:11.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's where the cargo culture really come in.

1399
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 4>That one of the cargo calts out of during the

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01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam War was this called of John From where these

1401
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:23.199
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam soldiers went to this remote island in the Congo

1402
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:27.520
<v Speaker 4>and would bring in these in these supplies to people

1403
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 4>and you know, goods and stuff, and like they had

1404
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:35.079
<v Speaker 4>never seen anything like that in their civilization. They'd never

1405
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 4>seen an airplane. They'd never seen a helicopter. So essentially,

1406
01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:41.560
<v Speaker 4>these people thought that these American soldiers that was bringing

1407
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.680
<v Speaker 4>them the food and supplies and stuff and landing in

1408
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:48.159
<v Speaker 4>their magical flying machines were gods. So they created this

1409
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 4>called the called of John From and they John From

1410
01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:56.960
<v Speaker 4>for because the military personnel that showed up his name

1411
01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:57.680
<v Speaker 4>was John.

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01:11:59.760 --> 01:11:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:03.560
<v Speaker 4>And then they started modeling their entire civilization like around

1414
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:08.159
<v Speaker 4>these soldiers, which they didn't know that they were American soldiers,

1415
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:11.560
<v Speaker 4>And they started making these helicopters and these planes and stuff.

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01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh I think I heard about that. They started making

1417
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.039
<v Speaker 2>like some of the stuff they showed up in out

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01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:22.760
<v Speaker 2>of like hey, and.

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01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.079
<v Speaker 6>They just make they make up entire religions or like

1420
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:28.159
<v Speaker 6>the entire concepts of society around it, not just the

1421
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.279
<v Speaker 6>religious aspect, but the entire society is built around that

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01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:32.000
<v Speaker 6>that premise.

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01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.760
<v Speaker 4>That's right. And there's still people that are that are

1424
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:41.079
<v Speaker 4>waiting for John From to uh return back to the

1425
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.159
<v Speaker 4>to the Congo to bring them supplies they have like

1426
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:47.800
<v Speaker 4>a statue that they made or like John From and

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01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 4>all this wild.

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01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:53.760
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, this is a good comment here about Podesta

1430
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.039
<v Speaker 6>with the a brama of experienced cooking stuff.

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01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:58.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he's just such a prolific character. And to

1433
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 6>see him at the forefront of pushing a lot of

1434
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:04.359
<v Speaker 6>these ideas on mainstream television, it shows like ancient aliens.

1435
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.119
<v Speaker 6>And then it's my understanding he's actually the one who

1436
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 6>was kind of at the forefront of redefining these the

1437
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:13.199
<v Speaker 6>term UFO and the UAP that was kind of that

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01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:15.159
<v Speaker 6>was kind of the work of Podessa from my understanding.

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01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:16.600
<v Speaker 4>And Hillary Clinton.

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01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Ye, Hillary Clinton, I thought it was.

1441
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.119
<v Speaker 6>He was serving as her as her campaign chairman, and uh,

1442
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:27.840
<v Speaker 6>top counts. He's all he So whenever Vince Foster died,

1443
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:31.520
<v Speaker 6>old Johnny Boy, he decided to position himself within deeper

1444
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:33.640
<v Speaker 6>within the Clinton machine to the legal counsel of the

1445
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.239
<v Speaker 6>White House. He's the one who champ He's the one

1446
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 6>who developed the Vince Foster cover up. Him and Susan Rice.

1447
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:46.359
<v Speaker 6>Susan Rice, Susan Rice. They both started a war room

1448
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:48.720
<v Speaker 6>to cover that up. So he's he's been the Clintons,

1449
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.680
<v Speaker 6>he's been, He's had his hand up bills, but you know,

1450
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.640
<v Speaker 6>making his mouth a puppet style since around nineteen ninety four.

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01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 3>So he's very deep in that whole machine for sure.

1452
01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:59.079
<v Speaker 6>And I think, in my opinion, from especially from the

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01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 6>years I spent there, those fellows run DC. I think

1454
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 6>the Washington Post ran some of that effect too, where

1455
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 6>John and Tony Podessa were the most powerful brothers.

1456
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Since Kennedy in DC.

1457
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 6>So this dude seems to be very very much in

1458
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:13.760
<v Speaker 6>in this in the seat of control with a lot

1459
01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:17.439
<v Speaker 6>of these these current concepts of aliens and UFOs and

1460
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:21.560
<v Speaker 6>this discussion surrounding any sort of declassifications.

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01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 4>I always get a bramo Vic confused with a Bramovic.

1462
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:32.399
<v Speaker 4>You got Marina Abramovich from Nazi Germany that was like

1463
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.279
<v Speaker 4>a channeler, and then you have what is her first

1464
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:41.560
<v Speaker 4>name of Brahma Vic Maria barrama Vic. Oh yeah, yeah,

1465
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:44.600
<v Speaker 4>they're like the they It's like what we were talking

1466
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:50.039
<v Speaker 4>about with Dave Grush and Dave. It's like the same thing.

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01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.920
<v Speaker 3>She was a Nazis mystic.

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01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nick, you do you know about her? Marina Abramovic,

1469
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:01.720
<v Speaker 4>the the Spirit Cooking one, I know, not the Spirit

1470
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:08.600
<v Speaker 4>cooking one, but one. Yeah, she's uh. She was supposedly

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01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:14.199
<v Speaker 4>a channeler that with channel these entities kind of supposedly

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01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:19.520
<v Speaker 4>the same entities that who are some of the first

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01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:27.560
<v Speaker 4>the channel the Anochian angels John D. Supposedly she was

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01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:31.880
<v Speaker 4>channeling some of these same entities that John D was

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01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.119
<v Speaker 4>supposedly channeling as well, and then they like gave her

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01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:42.319
<v Speaker 4>like the schematics to Creative spaceship and then she like disappeared.

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<v Speaker 4>Supposedly this was like during World War two, well before

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01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:49.640
<v Speaker 4>World War two in Germany.

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<v Speaker 3>M you have to read more to that one. That

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01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:53.079
<v Speaker 3>sounds interesting.

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01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:58.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the comment about them pizza, Nick and I were

1482
01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:02.319
<v Speaker 6>recently discussing this relative to that situation, because it seems

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01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:04.840
<v Speaker 6>like that whole situation relative again to the Podestas, because

1484
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:07.840
<v Speaker 6>this was a big John Antoni Podesta hang out.

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01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:09.319
<v Speaker 3>They had birthday parties here and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Just the sign seems to scream to me that the uh,

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01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.439
<v Speaker 6>there's an occult nature to it, right with the symbols

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01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:17.760
<v Speaker 6>on the sign, like you know, obviously it's a star

1489
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:19.800
<v Speaker 6>in the moon and it's called comment, but I mean,

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01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 6>the whole mix of it just seems very occult to me.

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01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't there some kind of common thing in Toy Story

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01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:27.279
<v Speaker 4>as well?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I'm not sure of the first thing that comes

1494
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 6>to mind when I think of common is the uh

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01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.680
<v Speaker 6>is the purple purple rube and black nikes of the

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01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.239
<v Speaker 6>Heaven's Gate and the Haylees gun.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, I think there may be it was there's

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01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:47.960
<v Speaker 4>some kind of something like that in Toy Story as well,

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01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 4>But I could be mistaken. I haven't watched Toy Story

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<v Speaker 4>in a really long time, but it might be just

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01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:54.079
<v Speaker 4>on the front of my mind because of the Toy

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01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:57.239
<v Speaker 4>Story connection to the Shining and Stanley Kubrick.

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01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:02.159
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, there's a common here comment pizza in Toy Story.

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01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.680
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, there you go there. I'm not sure where

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01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 3>I've seen it, but yeah, it's interesting. I'll check that

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01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:08.720
<v Speaker 3>out too.

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01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I uh, well, Nick Nick stepped away for a second,

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01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.239
<v Speaker 6>I will say Nick and I recently. Nick was on

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01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:18.319
<v Speaker 6>a tour of DC before I. I recently moved away

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01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.079
<v Speaker 6>from DC a number of months ago, but I had

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01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 6>been living there and I took I was stationed there

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01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 6>for like six six and a half years my military career,

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01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:28.479
<v Speaker 6>so I, you know very much, have called d C

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01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:30.600
<v Speaker 6>home for a number of years. So I took took

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01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 6>Nick on a tour when he came down through d

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01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.840
<v Speaker 6>C filming some some of the more you know, the

1517
01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 6>older and the cult sites around town, like the Scottish Rite,

1518
01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:43.439
<v Speaker 6>you know temple there, the thirty three Degree Temple, places

1519
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:43.640
<v Speaker 6>like that.

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01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:46.560
<v Speaker 3>But we saw by comic Pizza and Nick. Nick made

1521
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:50.920
<v Speaker 3>a new friend out front. He was here filling the story.

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01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's uh.

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01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:55.079
<v Speaker 6>I've always thought the whole relationship with this situation being

1524
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:58.079
<v Speaker 6>being like almost like in a cult, ritual meeting place

1525
01:17:58.119 --> 01:17:59.640
<v Speaker 6>for some of these folks, like the Podestas.

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01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Again, I like to.

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01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 6>Attribute a lot of nefarious activities to the Podesta bros.

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01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.479
<v Speaker 6>I think again they're very prolific. They're involved with everything,

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01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:10.960
<v Speaker 6>it seems because speaking of these aliens and in the

1530
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.359
<v Speaker 6>occult right, you have Peter Levenda, who seems to be

1531
01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 6>an intersection of that activity. Yeah, David Brock seems to

1532
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.720
<v Speaker 6>be creepy to Elaphontas's buddy, But yeah, you know, uh,

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01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:26.600
<v Speaker 6>Podesta and Alafanta's they go on. Podesta and Alphantas, Podesta

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01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.600
<v Speaker 6>and Levenda, they go way back back to the to

1535
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:33.680
<v Speaker 6>the late late seventies, early eighties, so they have a

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01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:35.720
<v Speaker 6>long history with one another. So I just find it

1537
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:38.520
<v Speaker 6>very odd that they have that long history. They're both

1538
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.159
<v Speaker 6>seemingly involved in the aliens and the occult, and they're

1539
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:43.760
<v Speaker 6>here here, they are in our current era, pushing it

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01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 6>with Tom DeLong, the Freemason from Blank twenty two working

1541
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.640
<v Speaker 6>with him and to the Stars Academy, pushing out all

1542
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:54.079
<v Speaker 6>these ideas, meeting with John Podesta at the White House, right,

1543
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:57.800
<v Speaker 6>Peter Lavenda and Tom DeLong. It just all seems this

1544
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.439
<v Speaker 6>is the kind of the epicenter of activity. Why asking

1545
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 6>the question not getting the answers, as as a society

1546
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:06.039
<v Speaker 6>generally speaking, is not getting answers on what the hell's

1547
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:09.079
<v Speaker 6>going on with all these weird things going on in

1548
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:09.439
<v Speaker 6>the sky.

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01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, really, what I've discovered is that you can literally

1550
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:21.079
<v Speaker 4>boil everything down to the aliens are an excuse for

1551
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:24.079
<v Speaker 4>crimes against humanity and the things that we're doing to

1552
01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:28.319
<v Speaker 4>our own people. Literally everything that has been blamed on

1553
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:35.880
<v Speaker 4>extraterrestrial involvement, we've been doing to ourselves. And it's and

1554
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:39.119
<v Speaker 4>it's a perfect cover up because then that means that

1555
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 4>they well, you know, these people in high up places

1556
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 4>don't have to take responsibility for anything that they do

1557
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:54.239
<v Speaker 4>because the ufology and the you know, the alien narrative

1558
01:19:54.359 --> 01:20:00.880
<v Speaker 4>will reign supreme. It'll be well, it's aliens. Aliens did that. Aliens.

1559
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:04.399
<v Speaker 4>Aliens were the ones that were muscling with your genetics.

1560
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Aliens were the ones that were changing your DNA wasn't

1561
01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:10.399
<v Speaker 4>use We didn't do it.

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01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:14.920
<v Speaker 3>That's an excellent point. That does it shift the liability.

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01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:18.079
<v Speaker 6>That's the major that's the that's the primary function at

1564
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.000
<v Speaker 6>least of the US government is shifting liability. Everything else

1565
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:21.800
<v Speaker 6>comes secondary.

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01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Number one. Were never full.

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01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Never, and they'll obfuscate it. They'll they'll create stories and

1568
01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:38.119
<v Speaker 4>theories and run psychological operations on people to change the narrative,

1569
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:42.359
<v Speaker 4>to shift the blame away from them at all costs,

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01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 4>at any cost.

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01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.520
<v Speaker 6>As you pointed out, they'll create computer systems and invent

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01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:49.920
<v Speaker 6>software to convince people that aliens are talking to them

1573
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:52.600
<v Speaker 6>for another reason, just to see how that guy's going

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01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 6>to react.

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01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:54.560
<v Speaker 3>It seems like that was part of the part of

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01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:55.279
<v Speaker 3>the issue there.

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01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:58.760
<v Speaker 6>Was he was obviously sending out that information of our parties,

1578
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:00.880
<v Speaker 6>but it's also part of it seemed almost be a

1579
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:02.479
<v Speaker 6>game where like, I want to see what they could

1580
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:04.399
<v Speaker 6>do to that guy by.

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01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh, absolutely, And that was like the whole thing because

1582
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:09.319
<v Speaker 4>Paul Bennis was also worked for the Air Force. He

1583
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:11.239
<v Speaker 4>was a radio technician for the Air Force, so he

1584
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:14.119
<v Speaker 4>had like a duty to keep his secrecy, you know,

1585
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 4>and that's how they got him. In the beginning. They

1586
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:20.000
<v Speaker 4>were like, listen, Paul, we don't uh the footage that

1587
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:22.039
<v Speaker 4>you have in the pictures that you have of supposed

1588
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:27.600
<v Speaker 4>extraterrestrials and UFOs. It's very interesting. See they they didn't

1589
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:30.800
<v Speaker 4>confirm or deny it, just exactly like what they're doing

1590
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:33.680
<v Speaker 4>with this drone stuff. They're not saying what it is.

1591
01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:37.319
<v Speaker 4>They're neither confirming or denying the entire thing. And then

1592
01:21:37.399 --> 01:21:39.560
<v Speaker 4>that pushes Paul Bennowitz to think that all, well, he

1593
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:42.039
<v Speaker 4>must be onto something because they're not telling me that

1594
01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 4>it's not extraterrestrials. They're not telling me that it's not UFOs,

1595
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:49.560
<v Speaker 4>so I must be onto something right then in the.

1596
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Beginning they convinced them right.

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01:21:52.239 --> 01:21:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Exactly without telling him one way or the other. Right,

1598
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.359
<v Speaker 4>because that's how the human brain, human mind. Yeah, it's

1599
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:04.079
<v Speaker 4>a huge, huge mine. Yeah, but that's how it's done.

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01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.760
<v Speaker 4>That's the way that that's the way that they they

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01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.119
<v Speaker 4>do it. And uh, and it's so subtle that it's

1602
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:14.479
<v Speaker 4>very difficult to even recognize when and how it's actually

1603
01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:17.560
<v Speaker 4>being done. But it's so freaking sophisticated that it takes

1604
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:22.560
<v Speaker 4>a really sharp mind and a sharp, you know, intellectual

1605
01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:26.640
<v Speaker 4>mind to really discover exactly, you know, what's going on.

1606
01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:31.800
<v Speaker 4>And that's the way. And you can apply that narrative

1607
01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:34.479
<v Speaker 4>in that situation with Paul Benowitz and the NSA and

1608
01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:36.279
<v Speaker 4>the Air Force and what they were doing to him

1609
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:42.239
<v Speaker 4>to almost every other topic in every other discussion and

1610
01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:46.199
<v Speaker 4>relate that exact same thing, and you pretty much understand

1611
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:47.439
<v Speaker 4>everything at that point.

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01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:51.159
<v Speaker 6>I think that's a fair fair assessment. In summary, I

1613
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 6>think you've particulated that well, Ruder. I appreciate that it's

1614
01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:56.000
<v Speaker 6>some good stuff, and I appreciate your time or will

1615
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:57.960
<v Speaker 6>be a wrapping things up here and give you a

1616
01:22:58.039 --> 01:22:59.920
<v Speaker 6>moment here to plug anything. You got to know you

1617
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:02.359
<v Speaker 6>had a new movie out that I recently heard about

1618
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.079
<v Speaker 6>looking forward to for checking out, but I Nick, Nick,

1619
01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:06.800
<v Speaker 6>you stepped out from and I wanted to give you

1620
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:09.600
<v Speaker 6>an opportunity to maybe share with Ryder your story of

1621
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:11.159
<v Speaker 6>the friend you met there a count pizza.

1622
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, no, so me.

1623
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:17.640
<v Speaker 3>J J.

1624
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:20.000
<v Speaker 2>We're walking around d C. I think we went over

1625
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:21.880
<v Speaker 2>there maybe to go walk past it and actually take

1626
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:25.119
<v Speaker 2>a look at you. Yeah, And so like we're walking

1627
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>up this side of the road before you make a

1628
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.279
<v Speaker 2>left to start heading towards the place, and like you see,

1629
01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:33.159
<v Speaker 2>like I mean it was like a Harry. I mean

1630
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it was like some hairy ass big dude like in

1631
01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:37.279
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know it was either wearing like a

1632
01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:38.399
<v Speaker 2>tutu or some ship.

1633
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:42.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1635
01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And like we're walking up in the afternoon.

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01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like picking a number from like one to three.

1637
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. For some reason, I like entertained this

1638
01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:55.039
<v Speaker 2>motherfucker some shit like I just want to hear. Like

1639
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm thinking I want to hear with

1640
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>dumb shit this thing that says to me think you

1641
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:03.640
<v Speaker 2>know yeah, And I so I said too, and then

1642
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:05.039
<v Speaker 2>like it goes to like pull out. It looks like

1643
01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you're pulling out a planet or a fucking like calendar

1644
01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>or some ship. Right, I'm like, come on that now

1645
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like drink. Yeah, he pulls was like all right,

1646
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:17.640
<v Speaker 2>so now picking Jay J's like, yo, I ain't got

1647
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>time for that.

1648
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm out of here, Like you gotta get out of

1649
01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:22.760
<v Speaker 3>down the block.

1650
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it gets on it. It's like a little motorized

1651
01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:28.159
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know what the fuck was that.

1652
01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:30.239
<v Speaker 3>It was like one of those little scooters, those little

1653
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:31.479
<v Speaker 3>scooters you only like.

1654
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:36.039
<v Speaker 2>One wheel on the front and back. Yeah, it just

1655
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>like takes off like all upset.

1656
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:39.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what's this?

1657
01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Just happy. I stepped down the side and watch him

1658
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:45.279
<v Speaker 3>go by on the sidewalk and he was he looked pissed.

1659
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, when does this happen? Right at the

1660
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:53.319
<v Speaker 2>corner of comic Ping Pong right, some characters out there.

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01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, well rider, I appreciate your time. But it's

1662
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:01.560
<v Speaker 6>a great conversation. Definitely love to you know, that's reconvene

1663
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:04.079
<v Speaker 6>at some point in the future. Talks some more aliensy

1664
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 6>ops and cargo, cold business. I'm sure we've want to

1665
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:09.079
<v Speaker 6>scratched the servers. You've definitely left me with a number

1666
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:13.800
<v Speaker 6>of topics to check out. But what before we go

1667
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:16.319
<v Speaker 6>your I know you got a new new movie just released,

1668
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:17.880
<v Speaker 6>anything else you're working on you want to plug?

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01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:21.359
<v Speaker 4>Just my show Raised by Johns on YouTube and in

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01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:24.640
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01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:28.800
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01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:32.840
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1674
01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:45.680
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1675
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:47.680
<v Speaker 4>like to, If you even if you don't, if you're

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01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:50.520
<v Speaker 4>not interested in Cube Break or his work, or if

1677
01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:52.800
<v Speaker 4>you don't like the Shining or what, it won't matter.

1678
01:25:52.880 --> 01:25:55.920
<v Speaker 4>There's so many other topics that we dive into in there.

1679
01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:59.119
<v Speaker 4>It's not only about the Shining and Stanley Cubreic is

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<v Speaker 4>about the the music industry, it's about the film industry,

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01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:09.039
<v Speaker 4>it's about you know, clandestine intelligence operations. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>that you guys will really enjoy it. I think I

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01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>wanna be on Nick Show here soon talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hell yeah, that's awesome.

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01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I know.

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01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:19.720
<v Speaker 3>I look for it just I just heard about it recently.

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01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I look forward to checking out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's another thing I will say. I have actually

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01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:26.239
<v Speaker 2>learned a few facts or things that I never knew

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01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>before about other things, just from like seeing some of

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01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:32.199
<v Speaker 2>your stuff, you know what I'm saying. That had nothing

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01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>to do totally really with the topic. It was just

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01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>like all the random things that you kind of talked about.

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01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>It was like, Oh, I didn't even know that, like

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01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Kubrick and Lord of the Rings.

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01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I never saying naziistics that, you know what I'm saying.

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01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Like, it was just like you're like, you know, random

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01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>things that you're like, hmm, So that I would say,

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01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>like just trying to promote his stuff. Besides Kubrick and that,

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01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:52.760
<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of other little informational gems in

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01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:54.399
<v Speaker 2>there from what I've seen so far.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Nick, I really appreciate that. Yeah, Kubrick was

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01:26:57.119 --> 01:26:59.840
<v Speaker 4>all over the place all the Beatles symbolism within the shrining.

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01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:02.680
<v Speaker 4>He was going to film J R. R. Tolkien's Little

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01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:04.399
<v Speaker 4>Lord of the Rings and the Beatles were going to

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01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:09.199
<v Speaker 4>be the Hobbits in the movie. Crazy thing, crazy stuff. Yeah,

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01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:12.840
<v Speaker 4>and then Stephen King got the idea of the title

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01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:16.640
<v Speaker 4>of the shining from a John Lennon song, instant karma, Like,

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01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:19.520
<v Speaker 4>there's so much that.

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01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Helps you real quick on the top of it. I'll

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01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:26.159
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, Nick, what were you saying?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Sometimes I think when you see that it

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01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>helps also give people like an idea of a mindset

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01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:32.239
<v Speaker 2>to that. He might have been in it as well,

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01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:35.279
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Sure, an idea of like

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01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>his way of thinking seeing stuff like that.

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01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:40.079
<v Speaker 3>He's pretty deep, that's for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So did you come in just one question for you there?

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01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:45.520
<v Speaker 6>Ride around your Kubrick stuff. I'm definitely gonna sack got

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01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:47.760
<v Speaker 6>your movie. It sounds even more intriguing now with the

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01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:51.039
<v Speaker 6>Beatles connections, because what I was thinking there was did

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01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:54.479
<v Speaker 6>you come across anything with Kubrick and scientology.

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01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Relative to the Night Discussion?

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01:27:56.960 --> 01:28:02.159
<v Speaker 6>Mmm? Wow, was a big intellogists and he obviously, you know,

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01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:04.680
<v Speaker 6>at least employed crews there at least, you know, at

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<v Speaker 6>least one scientellogist.

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue a couple more.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is possible, and is also possible that Kubrick

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01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:17.520
<v Speaker 4>had heavy Masonic free Mason ties as well through all

1730
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:20.840
<v Speaker 4>the symbolism in his movies. I mean, the poster for

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01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:25.920
<v Speaker 4>a freaking clockwork orange is Alex and the center of

1732
01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:28.399
<v Speaker 4>the pyramid, the top of the pyramid is all Seeing Eye,

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01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:31.640
<v Speaker 4>which is Alex's watch. Like there's a seven point of

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01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:33.880
<v Speaker 4>stars in Eyes White Shot, which we know seven point

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01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:38.039
<v Speaker 4>of stars is you know, the schedule for Lucifer and

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01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:41.600
<v Speaker 4>then Lucifer being the morning star and also related to Venus. Like,

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01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:45.800
<v Speaker 4>there's so many different free Masonic symbolism that Kubrick was

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01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:49.520
<v Speaker 4>showing in all of his movies, especially in Eyes White Shot,

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01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:53.840
<v Speaker 4>and just the symbolism that he puts in there makes

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01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:58.000
<v Speaker 4>you question if he how much he knew about this

1741
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:02.039
<v Speaker 4>and how much was he involved in all this stuff?

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01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:06.000
<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, please check out the movie and if

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01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 4>you like it, please leave a rating in a review

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01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:11.800
<v Speaker 4>as well. On the Clockwork Shining on Amazon Prime. And

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01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.159
<v Speaker 4>if you don't like Amazon Prime, then you can get

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01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:16.319
<v Speaker 4>Apple TV Plus and watch it on there as well.

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01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Nice And that is that on your link tree, but

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01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:21.560
<v Speaker 3>if not on my link.

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01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:25.039
<v Speaker 4>Tree, I haven't updated the link tree yet. But if

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01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:28.199
<v Speaker 4>you just typed in a Clockwork Shining or a Kubrick's

1751
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Odyssey three into Amazon Prime Video or a TV or

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01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:34.520
<v Speaker 4>just into Google itself, it'll be the first thing that

1753
01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:38.560
<v Speaker 4>pops up and you can click on it and you know,

1754
01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:41.680
<v Speaker 4>help help supporting me and watching my movie. It really

1755
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.039
<v Speaker 4>helps me, you know, do more things in the future.

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01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.159
<v Speaker 4>So thanks for having me on, gentlemen, really appreciate it.

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01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 4>There's a lovely conversation. Thanks for being here, Nick. I'll

1758
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:53.399
<v Speaker 4>be seeing you soon on your show, definitely talking about

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01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:55.079
<v Speaker 4>the movie actually.

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01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:57.239
<v Speaker 6>And I'll put a link to your your document your

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01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:00.720
<v Speaker 6>your new Amazon Prime documentary in this show notes as well.

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01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I appreciate that all.

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01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.159
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate time. Writer, awesome conversation, look forward to future. Nick.

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01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Do you have any closing thoughts for us? No?

1765
01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Just real quick?

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01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you call it Rejacks available on old major podcast

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01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>hosts and bitch you rumbling YouTube. Nice, Thanks and thank

1768
01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:18.399
<v Speaker 2>you for having me on. It's always a pleasure to

1769
01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:20.079
<v Speaker 2>hang out with you JJ and it's always good to

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01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>talk to you my man as well, So thank you.

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01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Well, that's it. That's the show here, folks.

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<v Speaker 8>So the next time you're right on the town, visit

1773
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:36.279
<v Speaker 8>in your local watering holes or perhaps just mannering around

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01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:41.159
<v Speaker 8>and you hear the unmistakable sounds of metal clanking and

1775
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:46.159
<v Speaker 8>you spot signs of a disturbance, check your six look

1776
01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:50.600
<v Speaker 8>in that garbage can, because you never can tell the

1777
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:53.000
<v Speaker 8>GCDs may be loose in your town.

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01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:15.359
<v Speaker 5>Active part in Active part, and you at

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01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Active articate and