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be talking about a nanoscope surgery that might revolutionize baseball.

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right now, Trek Scooble having that nanoscope, or the schoobole

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scope as it's now called, the first of its kind.

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And there's a lot to talk about with this. But

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before yeah, it's not very fun. Yeah you have the dingle.

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Speaker 3: Scope, dork scope, and there's a lot of things to

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talk about about, how he performed, how the villa was.

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Speaker 2: But the only real thing that is stuck with me

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is the guy who tweeted UH looking at Terrek Scooble

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and says, brother looks like he had the Jimmy John surgery.

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I gotta tell you, why does Scoobs look a little

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fat in that video? Have you seen that?

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Speaker 3: And I don't think I have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the video. Just type it into

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UH into Twitter and you can see he does look bigger.

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I don't know if it's the low light minor league cameras,

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it's the jersey or whatever. Scoobs looks like he had

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the nanoscope. Surgery and then just proceeded to eat for

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a full month. But that dude saying brother looked like

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instead of Tommy John had the Jimmy John surgery. I laughed.

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Speaker 3: Did this picture the looks exactly like Goal Rawley?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he looks. What happened to him? Did they

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say you want to build on your frame? So this

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holds the surgery? He looks a little like what. Look

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at the video you can, like you scroll down to

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like four or five down you can.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the one where he is he's

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in the minor league outfit? Okay, I'm only seeing him

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in the locker room for whatever. And send it to me.

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Speaker 2: Terrek Schouble and it is the third uhs schoobl minor

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leagues and it's just Terrek Schoobl Terrek School. And then

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you'll see like the fourth or fifth videos from Just

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Baseball is his minor league outing and he's looking chunky.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I see David Chowan here. I put in

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just Trek Schoobl. Oh my god, Dan Clark. Sorry, there

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you go. Sorry, My algo is not the same as yours. Bruh,

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there you go. You know what I see? It looks

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like he has a bro on. Looks like he took it.

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Looks like he has a bro on from from Seinfeld,

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The Man bra the Man's Eer. You don't remember that.

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Speaker 2: One, No, I would, I'd never. I don't like Seinfeld.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't like Seinfeld, but I you know,

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maybe you know. I thought I thought you knew maybe

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about pop culture from the nineteen nineties when you were

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both live.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, no suit for you. And then I

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know Michael Richards.

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Speaker 3: There's an episode where Jerry Stiller and Kramer we're trying

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to invent uh a brazier for men, and they called

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it the Man's Ear or the bro They couldn't. They

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fought over the name. That was the whole episode. So

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it looks like he's wearing one of those in this

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that's he just looks chunked.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but regardless of the chunk.

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Speaker 3: Looks like he's on the Bogman diet.

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Speaker 2: There he's back quick from are you playing it? What

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is happening? What is this going on with dude?

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Speaker 3: I shut Twitter off and it was playing an ad

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Speaker 2: You like, can't find Trek's gooble video. You've got ads

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going on im like an old.

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Speaker 3: Man over here. Now, what are you saying this picture.

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Speaker 2: Machine on a val scope? What do you mean the

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Speaker 3: Regardless of regardless of how fat he does.

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Speaker 2: Look, we're not going to not acknowledge it. And this

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is coming from fat people, so like, yeah, we're allowed

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to say it. He looks picture But he went five innings,

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two hits, six strikeouts. Forty four of his fifty four

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pitches he threw for strikes, hit ninety nine. I think

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he was sitting like ninety six ninety seven, and he

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touched down to ninety five. So between ninety five and

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ninety nine through tons of strikes, absolutely dominated these little

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baby baseball players. And it you know, he was like

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for feed me, fed me, and he looked amazing. And

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to everyone's credit, not even to be like like hyperbole

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or whatever, but like this kind of might revolutionize like

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baseball injuries if you're able to go in with this

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thing and it's non invasive and you can have this

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type of a return like this legitimately had like him

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not returning potential, I mean, and now he's back in

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Speaker 3: There's a reason we call it Tommy John surgery, right

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because Tommy John was the first pitcher to get it

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and then come back and have a successful career after that.

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Speaker 2: But did this replace what? Like do we I don't

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think he was supposed to go down for Tommy John

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surgery for this or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: This is fun, he but but Tommy John was a picture.

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That's what I'm saying. Like, so the the surgery being

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named after him would be the Schoobl surgery. I don't

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think that will be surprising at all if it works.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't care about the name.

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I'm just saying, like the revolutionizing of it likely crap.

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If we're gonna get guys that could have missed three

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months and are going to just miss a month, this

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is gonna put somebody.

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Speaker 3: Somebody do it to Blake Snell today. Please.

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Speaker 2: He already had it. He did, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He's the same one. He had the Schoobl surgery right

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after Why isn't it oh after school? Yeah, he had

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it after So like I think it was like a

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a week where we're calling this the Snell surgery, the

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hydrated surgery.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, because Scooble got it done. He was the

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first one to have it. And then Blake Snell had it,

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and if he has a return as quick, like you know,

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Schooble ate his way out of the injury or something

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like that. But like maybe Schooble's just a little bit

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of a freak or something like that. But like, after

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we get a couple of these, it really pushes things

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going forward. So I guess my question is is, like,

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do you have any hesitations for the rest of this

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year's or any because you're kind of the or your

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guy on that front, are you just good to go?

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of shape, whether he was quick off of the injury.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about him being out of shape. You know,

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you work out for two weeks, he's back in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baseball, you could be five foot three or two

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hundred and eighty packs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, this is the ultimate thing. Was the last

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at bat of the World Series last year came down

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to Yamamoto, who is a discipline warrior, and he was

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pitching against Alejandro Kirk who looks like my son. So

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you know, baseball is a sport for anybody type really,

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so I don't care about the shape stuff. I mean,

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am I a little more leery of him than I

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was coming in? Sure? But if he's pitching and looking

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fine through five innings in the high eight, I guess.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying this is like, do you are you

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gonna do? Is he go right back to value too? Yes?

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You just he's back to like number one or two

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overall or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I probably put him behind a couple of

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the very tippy top pitchers, but he goes right into

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that tier for sure, just maybe at the bottom of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know if there's a whole lot

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of like trade for straight away, any of that type

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of stuff that flows right Derek Schoople. It's just like

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if you had him and he returns, I think this

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is like a big bonus. This is a big plus.

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and I think there's probably gonna be one or two

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more and then he's going to be back, and he's

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gonna be back probably towards the end of the month.

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And that is a crazy thought.

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Speaker 3: You still put him behind miz right obviously right now

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when you put him behind Schlitler Otani.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just about a teer. To me, I

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think it's the tier of like schemes, who did you say,

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miss right under that tier.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's like Machez's like yeah, Tawny, miz Schmes,

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maybe Sanchez and him, Like that's the tier.

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Speaker 2: However you want to like bundle it.

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Speaker 3: Up or whatever might put you in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I put like the next tier

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in my mind might be like, yeah, I'm Amoto Cam Schlitler,

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and honestly like yeah, Sale would definitely go in there

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maybe and then maybe the next here after that is

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where like burns and McLean and stuff start to come

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into play. But it is, it is a crazy, crazy return.

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I'm not really sure there's much to talk about on

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any other side of just say enjoy it, be glad

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that you're having him back. Do need to talk about this?

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Manny Machado. We I feel like we get this once

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a year where we have a dude that decides to

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just rail on analytics or advanced stats or however you

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want to put it. I usually feel like it's like

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a it's a picture, and sometimes it might be like

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a bullpen guy or something like that. Maybe I'm off

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on that. But there's always a guy.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I think you talk to at least one

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guy coming up that's like, I just don't pay attention

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to analytics.

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Speaker 2: I've talked to multiple Taylor Tremill was not by the way,

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watch the detectory of the players that did not care

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about right Taylor Tremiell. Alec Bohm was another one of

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those guys. He he was a little bit more like

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he would look at He told me, I bet things

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have changed now, but he said he would look at

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stuff in c off season and he wouldn't like he

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wouldn't go in season. He wouldn't bother himself in season

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on trying to get in his head.

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Speaker 3: I can understand a little bit of that from just

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like a sports psychology point of like, look, i don't

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want to look at it because then I'm going to

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dwell on it and I'm going to try to adjust

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in the middle of everything.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, to be fair, but here was many machadas.

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This is our you know, our twenty sixteen version, and

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then we can kind of comment on it. This was

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like Marty I think this is Marty Caswell via his

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Twitter or whatever. But here is the video and here's

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him talking for like less than a minute or a minute.

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I just wish you coul get the analytics out the way.

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Speaker 4: I think there's too many stats out there, too many,

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too many stats, way too many numbers. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Half of the stuff that goes up there.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 4: I look at the ward sometimes and I'm like, man,

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I even I ask some of the guys like what is

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WCCVBB whatever it is? Like, like what are these names

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that are being created? You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just crazy to even keep up.

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Speaker 4: With weight it expected on base percentage?

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Speaker 2: Is is that what it is? What is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, dude. I mean the pitching stuff like fit

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or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I love this part is my favorite part because this

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is where he's like like he's talking to a bunch

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of like older dudes and he's kind of like running

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a circle where he wants to like get everybody to

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like agree with him and stuff. He's like, yeah, you know,

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what is this? And then this guy like want this

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guy like perfectly is going to explain it clear, and

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then he's just like, yeah, I don't know. So I hears.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, like what is that? That's taking out the

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defense to say this guy, all right, so so so

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why would you have that stat?

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Speaker 2: Isn't baseball guy? Really is? I love that? And then

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his face he's like, but it takes a team to

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win a bog game, and not just one person.

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Speaker 4: One person could be one person could be that guy, right,

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So one person could carry a team. But this is

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a team sport. You don't win a championship. I just

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won't player. It takes a hole.

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Speaker 2: Oh but that's like, that's where things get so stupid

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to me, because it's like, well, you're looking at the

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wrong thing. They're not trying to take that stat and

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diminish the team. You are trying to individually look at

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players in Now I'm convinced.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm convinced. I think we should get rid of

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all the stats. Just get rid of all the stats.

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All I want are wins and losses.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: It's the only sat I care about it anymore. So, Yeah,

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convince me.

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Speaker 2: It's such an in baseball game type of thing where

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it's like you can play, like I said on leading off,

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I kind of told you off here. On one side,

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I kind of don't understand when baseball players get into

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this argument because like you will have guys that stink,

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and then like people will be critical and you'll have

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teammates and coaches that like defend them. But like do

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you have many times like advanced analytics or advanced stats

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can tell the story of a guy sucking ass, but

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they actually can turn it around and that is works

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in their favor. There are times where it'll be like

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there's a guy who'd been good in the past and

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he really sucks and everything says it's bad and everyone's

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like this is bad. And then a player they want

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to defend it, but it goes in the other directions.

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Speaker 3: It's the comparison I'll make here while she is like

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if a carpenter went, you know what, there's too many tools.

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I don't need all these tools. What does this tool do?

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I've never used this one ever, so why should we

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have all these tools? Well, you don't use it, but

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it was made with a purpose for a reason. Somebody

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else may use it and need it. Like you know

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that it's just a tool in your toolbox to find

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out what is the issue or what is going absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Actually, another step is like the thing is is like

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he's looking at some things as tools, but some of

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those things are just like instructions, and it's like, how

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you know what I'm saying, Like that tool, the tool

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is actually an instruction to tell you the story of

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how to use another tool or how to build this

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certain thing. It doesn't mean it's the most critical and

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can you do without it, yes, but it's actually just

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like giving it's a blueprint sometimes and sometimes nothing is

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perfect with it. But I think these guys just get

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inundated because they start to see all this stuff up

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there and they have people talking about it, and then

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they feel they're being judged off of it. And it's

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just like in my world that there's the counting stats

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of the like strikeouts and wins and homers and hits,

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and then maybe you know, maybe you look at whip

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and stuff like that, and then there's, like probably most organizations,

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there's a few things that people care about, but there's

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all these other these advanced analytics and stuff that are

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just helping tell a story, to maybe understand a player

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who is not the player, to try to work with

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them on certain things, whether it is implementing BA I mean, dude,

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keep Bryant, I mean not keep Brian Hayes is a

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good example. But key Brian Hayes is like one of

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the best defensive third basement out there. He's one of

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the worst hitters of all time. He's so bad. He

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is out here in Arizona right now working with drive Line,

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like they just optioned him in season to go work

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a drive and drive Line is gonna do is They're

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gonna do complete analysis, which all these guys do. They're

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gonna have analysis, and then that analysis is gonna tell

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us a lot about that speed and angle, and it's

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gonna talk probably about like what we get with the

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bat tracking stuff, ideal angle and dah dah dah da. Well,

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guess what. Take all that stuff that you probably have

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some familiar familiarity with, and then you just have some

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stats out there that are just these averages. You know,

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like he said, you're taking out the defensive side for

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pitching to try to talk about a picture's like true valued.

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All right, It's it's such a eye rolling thing. At

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this point, you're not being judged on your whoa like

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you're not. Everything is about your wOBA and whatever, and

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you don't have to pay attention to that expect Those

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are Also those are like accumulative, like uh, summations of things.

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It's like they take this, this and this to give

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you a number to kind of look at, and it's

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like that is a stat, but it's like your ultimate

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judging isn't necessarily off of that. There's so many things

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that are these accumulative stats that these guys get so

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hung up on.

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Speaker 3: He did not articulate this this particular gripe very well.

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Speaker 2: But that's but that's part of the thing, though, Box.

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It's like he's not there to articulate. That's his point.

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Like he's just not into that. He's just like, Hey,

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I'm a baseball player, Like I do the thing, I

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try to get my angles better or whatever. I'm a

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baseball player. I don't need all these other stats. And

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it's like, great, okay, then don't use them. Yeah, exactly what.

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NFL just spend hundreds of millions of dollars on next

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Gen because people want more analytics and they want to

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understand and people want to have an understanding and have

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predictive stats and stuff like that. And it's just like

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that's fine. I actually don't have a problem of players

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are weird with it, but I just don't you just

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come off as like and I'm a many Matado defender too,

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you just come off as like lame when you're just

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bitching and complaining about stats that they.

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Speaker 3: Don't terribly right, like six maybe you should be. That's

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a big part of it. It's like, yeah, we know what,

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you don't like stats today because your stats are miserable.

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Speaker 2: Well you know what, though, funny enough, this would have

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been a better argument as well. It actually would have

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been better a couple of weeks ago. But those stats

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that he hates. His expected batting average is a good

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positive sign for him. It's forty points I'm sorry, sixty

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points higher than what he's done before. He's pulling the

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ball in the air more than that he's done in

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like five years. Like, those are a couple pieces that

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are telling like some good stories in his favor. But

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then there's some pretty basic stuff where it's like, well, hey,

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you're not bearing the ball, you're not getting the ball

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in the air, your hard hit rate is down over

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ten percent, you're striking out more than you've ever done

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in your career. And then there we can go on

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and on about you know, your ground ball rate is up,

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it's actually the second worst, since it's worse since his

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rookie year. Like, there are some stuff in here that

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it's like, those are just informative pieces of understand who

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you are. Not all of those are going to help

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baseball players, but some of them help people like us

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or whoever talk about said players and have an underlook

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at it.

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Speaker 3: Launch angle, the launch angle is the biggest difference that

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he hap.

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Speaker 2: It's on like four degrees I think a year over

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years something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every other year his savant page has been red

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red and this year the launch angle is down and

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it's you know, I'm blue.

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Speaker 2: Everthing knew about sports for the last twenty years from

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when you and I were probably teenagers to now is

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people have a thirst to have better understanding of the

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sport that they watch. They want it with football now,

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I mean maybe basketball kind of lack some of that,

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but it's the thing with baseball people having a deeper

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understanding of something that is very complicated that they can

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start to like break down and maybe have an opinion on.

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Because everybody that listens to podcast is like, well, those

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you know, dip shows can do it, I can do it.

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Like everybody feels like that with sports, like they want

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to have an understanding, to have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Piece should be uh, you know, Manny Machado is just

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it's just should be Clint Eastwood out here telling us

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what we're all doing wrong from Trouble with the curve.

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He's almost blind, but he can hear the curve of

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the ball.

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Speaker 2: So I've watched that.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, it's like it's like a big middle finger

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to Moneyball. Yeah, is justin Timberlake, Yes, and Amy Adams

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and and Clin Eastwood, like you know, it's ah, the

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story is nice, but the stat it's almost honestly, it's

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like a I can tell because I can hear, and

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then there's uh, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's like an old school like scout scout.

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Speaker 3: That that's well, it's exactly what Clint Eastwood is in

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the movie. So it's, uh, it's pretty funny. But yeah,

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let's just get a bunch of old blind men that

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used to watch baseball a lot, and I have them

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tell us where we're wrong.

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Speaker 2: It seems like that's what we do. It's still happening.

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Uh yeah, So good on Manny Machado for speaking up

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when he'sitting one six.

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Speaker 3: And tend to one more non fantasy baseball thing. I

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just want to ask you if you've seen this at all,

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is mister Bee's gonna buy the Angels? Is that a

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thing for real?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw, I did see that. I don't think

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it's real. I've seen nothing else. The tweet from a

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guy that was like, here's some interesting things that are

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floating around that mister Beast is going to buy the Angels,

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Like I don't know every Yeah, I keep seeing all

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these tweets about how mister Bee says he owned he

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has no money, you know, like, oh, is that right.

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He's one of those guys. This is like what the

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billionaires do it. So you don't own anything, you just

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have all these assets, or you do, but you have

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no money and it's all in assets, and then you

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have loans off of your assets, so it's like you

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don't have income in that that type of way. But

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that's one of those guys too, Like I've seen him

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be like, oh, you know, you probably have more money

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in your account, and it's like, don't patronize us. You

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have access to more money than anybody in the world.

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Don't patronize any of us with your stupid bank account

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bull crap or whatever. But I don't think he knows

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that much about sports. Probably wouldn't be the thing, and

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it just.

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Speaker 3: Wants to be Angel maxing.

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Speaker 2: Is that I would I would assume that is probably

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a troll, uh in some capacity, But I don't know.

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I've seen it.

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Speaker 3: It just came across my feet and I was like,

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I don't know this. It does not feel real to me,

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So yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is, but I have seen multiple

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tweets about people doing it.

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Speaker 3: Somebody did an AI cover of one of his videos,

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and it's like fixing the Angels impossible.

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Speaker 2: But I think also, like everybody hates uh Urt Moreno right,

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oh yeah yeah, everybody, so like wouldn't maybe.

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Speaker 3: Uh maybe mister Beast is a disingenuous d bag, but

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he'd still probably be a better owner than Arty Moreno

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so Artie Marino.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, all right. Other news that's floating out there,

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Bobby Witt left Sunday with some knee soreness. Not good

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for your you know, I didn't look today. Is he

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the MVP lead right now? I think games haven't started.

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He probably should be because I know it was because

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the ambiguity with Judge right now is really bad. He

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by the way, Aaron Judge heading to the il, he's

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got this rib injury that they're saying four to six weeks.

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Speaker 3: I need scooble surgery.

473
00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 2: The last show we were doing, we were kind of

474
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,200
talking about like where this could go, and like it's

475
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,960
kind of the worst case scenario. Yeah, dude, Bobby witt

476
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,960
Is they are plus money, but he is the current

477
00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:25,599
lead at plus one forty five. Jordan Alvarez is plus

478
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,359
one fifty. Dude, Nick Kurtz is three to I'm sorry,

479
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,119
Ben Rice is three to one, and then it goes

480
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,599
up into like the ten and twenties and all the

481
00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:38,200
crazy stuff. Well, you know what I wonder though, Aaron

482
00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:43,039
Judge is ten thousand plus ten thousand. What if he

483
00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:45,160
had like came back quicker than ever and could do that.

484
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, he came back in like a month, and

485
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,880
you know a lot of that was the All Star

486
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,720
break or whatever, and then just comes back and crushes.

487
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking, Like, what if

488
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,039
he came back, what if he beat that timeline and

489
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,519
came back July first, and then he just has like

490
00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:03,680
another home run season is the Is Wit doing enough? Well,

491
00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:06,319
WIT's got some knee soreness, it doesn't look like it's

492
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,200
like really bad, if I know correctly. I think it's

493
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,680
just like they wanted him to take a couple of

494
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:15,119
days off. But we were also kind of dismissive about

495
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,839
Aaron Judge last time we were doing this show, and

496
00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:18,759
then Aaron Judge had that big time off. So I

497
00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,039
don't know if you have any other like massive worries

498
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,480
or anything.

499
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,519
Speaker 3: No, I mean, what do you think about Spencer Jones

500
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:27,119
replacing him? The lineup is like, is Spencer Jones? How

501
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,200
many options does he have? Like is that only two?

502
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's got like like free more. There's no

503
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,559
there's no issue on that front or anything like that.

504
00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:39,160
I don't know. He just hasn't looked. Yeah, yeah, I

505
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,960
think I did see somebody there. I don't remember where

506
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,359
the quote was, but it was like someone told Spencer Jones,

507
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720
you know, you don't try to replace Judge or be Judge,

508
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:52,680
like just be the best version of yourself some motivational stuff,

509
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,279
and it's like that's cool and all, but I just

510
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:58,200
don't know what he's gonna look like. I've always been

511
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,759
just immensely obset with the the raw skills of him,

512
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,680
but like he looks more like Kyle Blanks right now

513
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,559
than he does every you know, just big six foot

514
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:09,240
seventy hit.

515
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: Two fifty in his first stint there.

516
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,799
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but expect a matting average of one eight.

517
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,160
He struck out thirty forty.

518
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,039
Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, yeah, so like three walks in thirteen

519
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,240
strikeouts in thirty one plate appearances.

520
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,039
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that I think like he

521
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:26,960
could catch fire for a little bit and he can

522
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000
put up some monster stats and then it's just going

523
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:31,799
to like fall apart. I still have this like little

524
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,400
glimmer of hope in a couple of years he's going

525
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,039
to figure it out. But it's going to be the

526
00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,599
same like oneo Cruz route, you know what I mean,

527
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,440
Like it's going to be a full season where.

528
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 3: Kyle Blank's comparison is not very nice.

529
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,519
Speaker 2: I just want to say, I just used to love

530
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:45,960
I was just thinking about him. I used to love

531
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:47,240
Kyle Blanks back in the day.

532
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Well, we saw him, didn't We first see him in

533
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:53,880
Maryvale and I was like, who is this gig gigantor

534
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,119
over here? Tiny thinks so I think it was when

535
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,400
he was a padre. I saw him the first time.

536
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:02,359
You're all right, you know what, But it was the

537
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,720
Brewers are playing the Podres. I remember. I was with

538
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,720
my buddy Joe, That's what it was, and I was like,

539
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,240
who is this offensive lineman playing for the Podres here?

540
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: Well, we saw him on like an opening day at

541
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,359
Chase Still. I remember that, or maybe it was an

542
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,039
opening day, but it was.

543
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,079
Speaker 3: I think it was because Adrian Gizalez had a homer

544
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,799
late in that came.

545
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He made his debut in two thousand and nineteen,

546
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,400
two thousand and nine where he hit two point fifty

547
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,119
with ten homers. Man and then it just like did

548
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000
he have eight hundred and twenty seven career bat bats,

549
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,279
hit two forty one and had thirty three homers? Actually

550
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,519
not the worst. How how tall is it was? He

551
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,279
six eight six seven? They say six six, He was

552
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:46,319
like six seven. Okay, went to you have a pie

553
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,400
out here in Prescott out the in Arizona. But yeah,

554
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,599
he would have a whole bunch of nothing. And he

555
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,079
wore number eighty eight, which stood out to me because

556
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:55,519
I think you did not like that.

557
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: I had a big thing about numbers way back in

558
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,720
the day, and I just like, is that worse or

559
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:05,000
is it Kaker wearing ninety nine worse? Which one? I

560
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:06,319
mean Judge wears ninety nine.

561
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really care about that with baseball players anymore.

562
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,759
Remember my Taiwan Walker when I tweeted him and he

563
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:12,599
was like, I don't know.

564
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: Like what was he wearing, like ninety or something?

565
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,519
Speaker 2: I know, like ninety nine? Are you wearing ninety nine?

566
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:20,279
And he was like, I don't know. I'm like, okay,

567
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:24,319
fair enough. You know what would bug me? This is

568
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:26,279
I think this is the only thing that would bug me. Now.

569
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,039
Quarterback wearing like twenty wasn't there wasn't there an DSU

570
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,559
quarterback like h Kron or something.

571
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah too.

572
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: There's a lot of quarterbacks that.

573
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 2: Have done that quarter oh really recently.

574
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if recently, but I remember, you know

575
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,079
a lot of quarterbacks wearing twenty two and highlight videos

576
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,359
or didn't Flutie wear a twenties number in college?

577
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,039
Speaker 2: I think he did? God, who was this?

578
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 3: He was twenty two?

579
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: I want to see his name because he was like,

580
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,200
I just this is probably how I'm doing. This is

581
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,799
not good. He let me look here. It wasn't Sam Keller.

582
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,440
It was like, oh god, Rudy Carpenter looking at all these.

583
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: Rudy Yeah, Flutie War twenty two, that's what I was

584
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,799
thinking of.

585
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,039
Speaker 2: I wish I could find it was like Jeff Koon

586
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,640
or something like that. Is that some familiar?

587
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:21,079
Speaker 3: I mean there have been so many Acqus, so many

588
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,799
college quarterbacks, dude, and now they're moving schools. I can't

589
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,279
keep up.

590
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, either way, a quarterback wearing like number twenty two,

591
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:32,680
like that grinds my gears. No, definitely grind that.

592
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: Will turn you into old man arguing at clouds.

593
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about the only one though. That's about it

594
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,240
at this point.

595
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,039
Speaker 3: So I was I was watching. I was at a

596
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:43,640
movie theater and saw a Mayhem commercial and a Coca

597
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,079
Cola commercial, and I wanted to turn into old man

598
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,880
yells a cloud. Really, because I paid for the movie,

599
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,920
I don't want to watch previews and it ads between

600
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,680
the previews.

601
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, but they do warn you. Now.

602
00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:58,720
They have like the warning where it says like your

603
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,000
movie will start fifteen to two twenty minutes later than

604
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:03,599
the tame see that. Yeah, it's on all the online

605
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,799
stuff now, Like on AMC's website, it is that's whort

606
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,240
because I have I'm an AMC Stubbs and I.

607
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: Bet you it's for Stubbs members only then because I'm

608
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,319
not paying that.

609
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they give the warnings now, I will say.

610
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,079
One of the lam yeah you know you should. One

611
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,160
of the lamer things on the planet is them not

612
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,880
just doing like nine different previews, but also doing like

613
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,359
seven commercials before you start. It's just like, give me

614
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,400
a break, give me a break here. You guys are

615
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:35,160
just charging us plenty now that you're making your money up.

616
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,920
I think, I actually think like the movies had like

617
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,119
the best like weekend or month in month of May

618
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,680
that they've had in like six or seven years with

619
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,400
the hand signal.

620
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,839
Speaker 3: I wonder why.

621
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't because of Grogu and Mandalorian can tell

622
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:49,720
you that.

623
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,839
Speaker 3: Well, further you get away from COVID, the more people

624
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,039
are going out, so movies too.

625
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: Back rooms Obsession. I want to see it.

626
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, my buddy Will saw Obsession. He loved it.

627
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Pretty good, all right, movies. Vargas and Munsey ran into

628
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:08,799
each other in the face. It was, well, what is

629
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:11,279
this you actually throw I don't understand this, then, Miz

630
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:12,720
hit Freeman the head. Are you just talking about all

631
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:13,599
the Dodgers getting hurt?

632
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm just well, not the Dodgers, it was the Rockies.

633
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:19,839
But I'm just talking about the injury, the freaky, weird

634
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,480
injury stuff that happened this weekend, like uh, you know

635
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:25,680
the uh Mis hitting the kid in the head, Freeman.

636
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,759
I think it was in the head. That was crazy

637
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,960
to see, and he looked like miss looked like he

638
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,319
was about to puke after it. I don't know if

639
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:33,000
you saw that, And.

640
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see that, So that's why I didn't

641
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,359
know what this was.

642
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so he hit him in the head at

643
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,200
ninety eight and he was all I think it was

644
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,960
Tyler Freeman. It's all wobbly. When they were walking him off, obviously.

645
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: I saw the Eldamar Vargus and Max Mounsey just absolutely

646
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:46,880
implode into each other.

647
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Ryan Nelson's fault. You got to cover first, man,

648
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,480
you know, I think somebody who's mentioned in the grooming

649
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,200
room like he's got to get over And I said, yeah,

650
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,319
I think he missed the signal. I don't know if

651
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:58,240
the um signal that the ball was fair, and he's like,

652
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,839
we still got to get over I'm like, I'm not

653
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:02,119
man an excuse for him. I think that's I'm just

654
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,119
providing a reason you still have to get over there.

655
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,359
Speaker 2: But also maybe in with that might have had something

656
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
to do with I haven't I got to pay attention.

657
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,079
But Lou James Grover Gino Geno Grover with the Diamondbacks

658
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,160
was called up. They sent down Jose Fernandez, who was

659
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,839
like the dude, and Lou James is probably a better

660
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:22,480
first baseman than any of these guys.

661
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,359
Speaker 3: Dude, he has been fielding amazing over at first already.

662
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,799
It's been fun to watch.

663
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: I just wonder because I don't know if you saw

664
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680
after the Eldamaro Vargus saying Lavello kind of went out

665
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,240
and kind of like he actually kind of slammed Vargas

666
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:35,799
because he was like, you know, if we had a

667
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,119
first basement like a Freddie Freeman, Freddy would have known

668
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,880
to do this and get out of the way and

669
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920
whatever slide, yes slide or whatever it was, and it

670
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,920
was a bad situation.

671
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: If you're giving up, I don't care who if I'm

672
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:50,279
if I'm me and I'm running at Eldemaro Vargas, I'm

673
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,000
not getting down. I outweigh him by about sixty pounds.

674
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,799
Same thing with Muncie, right, I'm not getting down. You're

675
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,440
the smaller guy. You get done. If I'm running at you, Welsh,

676
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:02,079
I'm sliding. You areier than me. But if if ill

677
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,640
tomorrow Vargus is running towards me, I'm not. You're going down,

678
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:05,960
not me.

679
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:08,559
Speaker 2: And I think that could have had something to do

680
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:13,319
with I mean, Lou James was absolutely destroying the Triple A.

681
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,799
He's just so funny. I keep thinking bad.

682
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:18,839
Speaker 3: Watch him get drafted. Yeah, you watch him get drafted.

683
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,519
I thought to care about it, but me, Troy, I

684
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,480
saw both those guys get drafted and they were back.

685
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: To back in the lineup. I just keep thinking back,

686
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,119
I was with this spring and my I was with

687
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,559
my buddy, and my buddy, like James is just kind

688
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,880
of like bobbing around. It was. It was actually a

689
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,440
really like weird day. We went to one of the

690
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,319
camps and it was slow, and he just asked He's

691
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,039
like He's like he's because he also had the nickname Gino,

692
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,000
and I don't know if he said Gino or Lou

693
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:43,359
James and he's like, how you doing it? And he

694
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,079
goes honestly not good, and it was like he was

695
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,839
having a really bad start to camp and whatever that

696
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,359
day was bad and he was just super honest about it.

697
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,240
And then it's like, now you see, dude is in

698
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:56,880
like three sixty and triple A and he's up in

699
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,920
the majors playing first base. So I thought that was cool.

700
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,839
And I don't know if you on similar Diamondback news, Max

701
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,720
Kepler signed with the Diamondbacks and having that finishing serving

702
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,960
a eighty game PD suspension, and I happened before we

703
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,960
start this see Prasinski and foul Territory just going on

704
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,559
this whole tirade about how these guys should they have

705
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920
to sign and then serve their eighty games. And I

706
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,000
was just like, I don't know, who care, Like, I

707
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,640
gotta be honest with you. If that was the case,

708
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,920
like there may I think no, no, no, but I

709
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,920
think it would be like this. These guys are bitching

710
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,400
about it, but if you had to like sign and

711
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,279
wait eighty games and guess what he'd have been signed,

712
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,319
Someone would have signed him. Let him serve the eighty games.

713
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,559
They're not paying him while he's doing it, But they

714
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:43,680
didn't have to sign him because he can serve it

715
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,640
in free agency. So I feel like these guys are

716
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,119
just barking up a dumb ass tree that it's like

717
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,920
the teams are using what they have at their disposal.

718
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,359
They don't have to sign this guy while he's serving it.

719
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,640
If they did and it was relative to the team

720
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,920
signing them, I will bet you one would have probably

721
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,200
signed him before week one.

722
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,079
Speaker 3: So he was he saying that you should have to

723
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,599
sign him and you have to be missing a player

724
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,519
from your twenty five man roster, but you don't. I

725
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,400
don't even know that that's not the rule though for

726
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,920
the teams.

727
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,839
Speaker 2: No, no, all he no, he's saying. What he was

728
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,720
complaining is a guy shouldn't be able to be sitting

729
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,880
at home in season serving his suspension. Once he signs

730
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,680
the team, he should then serve the eighty games. No,

731
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,640
that's stupid, and that's fine. Actually if they did that,

732
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,359
but guess what pick one if the guy, if the

733
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,519
guy can serve it while he's a free agent, then

734
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,200
no one's going to pick him up till it's close.

735
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,960
If he has to sign guess what he just signed

736
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,279
you guys are making an argument that doesn't make any

737
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,519
sense just to be like, you know these guys who

738
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,240
take Yeah, I totally agrees PD probably should never be

739
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:48,119
able to play in baseball again, but they Diamondbacks signed him,

740
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:51,440
and I guess they want to know totally with the

741
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,680
die vACC need another left handed bat, that's what they're

742
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:56,960
dying for. They need like some power bat that's gonna

743
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,000
you know, I guess DH for them probably not gonna

744
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,599
the outfield, but he's signing. He's eligible to come off

745
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,720
June twenty fifth. I don't know, because I don't think

746
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,599
he can. Like maybe honest with you, I think I

747
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:11,440
saw Andrew south Rank with the Diamondbacks last year when

748
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,239
he was on his suspension, So I don't know if

749
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,840
he can be at the facility. I know he can't

750
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,559
play in games, but like.

751
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,119
Speaker 3: Can do anything until outside of sign until I got.

752
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: To tell you, I think there's some I'm pretty sure

753
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,199
salf Frank was there, and I'm pretty sure Christian Robinson

754
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:28,079
when he was under his work order visa issue going

755
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,039
on and wasn't allowed to be in games, he was

756
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,840
still working at the facility. So like, I don't know,

757
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,440
I'm gonna go to them Beck's facility in the next

758
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,360
week or two and see if he's like looming around.

759
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:40,400
Worst case is he starts June twenty fifth, he starts

760
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,760
working up. I gotta be honest with you, he actually

761
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,400
might be relatively fantasy value valuable if he's gonna jump

762
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,000
right into the middle of the lineup and service in

763
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:49,760
every day DH or he might just be a whole

764
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,400
bunch of nothing.

765
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, because Lordes isn't gonna be out forever, so yeah.

766
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: But then Tommy Troy's gonna go away once. I mean

767
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,639
that is a problem. Like Lords isn't like the best

768
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,920
maybe outfield option, but maybe Kepler, you know, been sitting

769
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,679
on his ass taking lots of PD so allegedly so

770
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,639
probably good in the outfield. That's when you're gonna start

771
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,800
losing guys like, you know, Tommy Troy and I don't know,

772
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,400
I don't know. Maybe Kepler cold place some first or

773
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,639
something like that, and that'll get Lou James going out.

774
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,519
Other news, l Day La Cruz is gonna have an MRI,

775
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,159
but that has been moved to June twelfth. He is

776
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,559
still expected to miss two to four weeks.

777
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: But this is supposed to be good news because it's

778
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,519
I think his original MRI wasn't scheduled for like two

779
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:35,599
more weeks, and that he's feeling so good, they're like,

780
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:36,880
all right, we'll give you an MRI.

781
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: Ar So yeah, Garret widlock I sorted rehab assignment with

782
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,119
Triple A on Saturday, and they're his expectations. He's gonna

783
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,599
be back with the team really soon. Here might be

784
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,559
uh might end up being like a trade candidate as well.

785
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,559
Francisco Lindoor expected. We're getting a note expected to come

786
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,280
back at some point in Midge that that can't be June.

787
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,639
That's got to be July because he hasn't even returned

788
00:35:57,639 --> 00:35:59,760
to it says mid June. But mid june's in a

789
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,280
week and he hasn't even done anything, So I'm going

790
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400
to assume that's got to be more like July. Hunter

791
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,519
Brown is going to be making another rehab sort of

792
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,840
Triple A and then should be back, which is bel beautiful, beauty.

793
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Miss Brandon lau fouled a ball off of his knee.

794
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,400
It looked scary, didn't This was on Saturday, didn't play Sunday,

795
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,519
but X rays were negative and he is not expected

796
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,679
to miss a lot of time, so that's very good.

797
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:26,559
Brandon Brian beosen down to Triple A. Very funny after

798
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,119
he in Spanish, kind.

799
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: Of he was like runs in Spanish.

800
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,559
Speaker 2: He got blown up, and then they asked him about

801
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:39,559
the starter bullpen thing, and then his interpreter was kind

802
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:41,599
of like, I'm kind of tired of hearing about this.

803
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,320
But then multiple people I know that that dissected what

804
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719
he said, was like, it's not exactly what he said

805
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,119
that he might have been a little bit more aggressive,

806
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,039
but he's done in Triple A. And then Royce Lewis

807
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,920
was recalled after destroying Triple A and now he's playing

808
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,239
some first base. He played first base on Sunday, so

809
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,000
that's kind of.

810
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,119
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this Francisco Lindor thing and he started running.

811
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,880
Uh he saw a running progression program May twenty fifth,

812
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400
so it is June might not be.

813
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,039
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be. He's not gonna be back till July.

814
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: Like he hasn't even hit his say run a world

815
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,639
right here says late June. And I'm looking I'm pretty

816
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:18,519
sure I saw this on the score.

817
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:20,639
Speaker 2: Oh late Joe, Well this said mid June, like.

818
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:22,599
Speaker 3: I know I'm trying to find the article. I'm pretty

819
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:24,840
sure I saw this on the Score this weekend. I

820
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,400
might be wrong, though, I'm trying to find it.

821
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think the realistic timeline is

822
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:33,440
very late June to early July. That's fine that he's running.

823
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,760
He hasn't even begun simulated game stuff. He's got to

824
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,159
get into rehab games. That's going to take a week.

825
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,880
Maybe things will go super quick, but he's missed significant

826
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,719
time where he can't just come back into games. So

827
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,480
I would assume somewhere between late June or right July.

828
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: Lind Or expected to return from capstrain in mid June

829
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,400
from the score was from three days ago.

830
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:58,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if that happens, that's sick. I'll totally

831
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,519
eat it. But I'm gonna say July, because like he

832
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:03,519
ain't doing nothing. I want him back. I got him

833
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,280
on a fantasy team. He's just sitting on my eye out.

834
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,079
Speaker 3: It has like if he's gonna come back in two

835
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,199
weeks or a week, then where the updates? Because this

836
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,039
last this is this rotal Wire update is the last

837
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,679
update I see from May twenty fifth.

838
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I think it's it's a nothing burger,

839
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,880
like you got it one season a game then I

840
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000
think you're a week away. So like, once I hear

841
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,679
he's in a game, then I'm gonna be comfortable with it.

842
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Some other injury stuff guys coming back. Connor Griffin's going

843
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,639
to be having there saying a quote more relaxed timeline.

844
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:33,679
He's gonna be out longer than the ten days. I

845
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480
believe they're talking around the like twentieth of June or

846
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,800
something like that. You asked about Blake Snell. You started

847
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,519
playing catch on Friday. He's gonna be out until after

848
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,719
the All Star Game, which doesn't exactly a ligne with

849
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719
the whole schoobol scope stuff. But you know, maybe he's

850
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,880
not He's not built. Jimmy John Tough. I guess Nikki

851
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,440
Momniac started hitting off of a tea on Friday. He's

852
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,800
gonna need a rehab assignment before he returns. Can they

853
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,119
Jansen through a bullpen before Friday's game? Hardy Plank has

854
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:01,159
been shut down? What a waste?

855
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: I was so big onlo this year too, Yeah, disaster.

856
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: Alhander Kirk should be back on Friday. Your son with him?

857
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: Uh By.

858
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,639
Speaker 2: Ryan Helsley threw a VP on Monday, so he's inching closer.

859
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
That'll be a closer coming back. And then a couple

860
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:20,639
other injuries. Ty On left the second inning on Sunday

861
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,960
with a hamstring injury. Not good. DL Hall I L

862
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,480
with a peck strain, doesn't matter, Austin Wells, I L migraines,

863
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,679
doesn't really matter. JP Crawford he was hit on the

864
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,960
hand and it has a hand bruise and he's going

865
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,639
to the I L that one. It's pretty nasty. Did

866
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,880
you also see, just as an aside, what an absolute

867
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,039
dickhead Framber Valdes is that. Josh Naylor said, Uh, he

868
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,559
knows it was Framber because when JP Crawford got hit,

869
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:51,639
Framber was in the done laughing, pointing and laughing that

870
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:55,320
they know Framber had him. Like y'all spend your time

871
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,039
hating on guys like Manny like I was giving craft

872
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,880
to Manny Machado. I think everybody spending their time hating

873
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,559
on that, well.

874
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:05,039
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a single person that likes Framber

875
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:08,280
Valdez or Tommy Fam. Tommy Fam had another incident this

876
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,400
weekend in Triple A, which is hilarious. I saw on

877
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:17,719
Reddit but but uh, you know, uh, the the Framber Valdez.

878
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,519
I don't think there's a single person that likes Ramberveltez.

879
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,519
I've never met, like even astros fans, the Astro's fans

880
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:24,719
that I never really liked him.

881
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,639
Speaker 2: So I remember, like Joe's done the whole like, oh

882
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,400
might by on Framberg. I guess that's not like an

883
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,880
identifier of maybe.

884
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:35,519
Speaker 3: I mean fantasy whatever. He had a good start his

885
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:36,440
last start, but.

886
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: I think he's mid and he sucks.

887
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:42,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a horrible teammate and person. So yeah,

888
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,599
I mean, I mean, I don't know necessarily as a

889
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,000
person he is, but like, yeah, you do he is? Yeah,

890
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:48,719
you do you see what he does? Yeah, I think

891
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,559
he's better not in in front of a camera. I

892
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:52,199
bet he's worse.

893
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm not gonna necessarily say

894
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,039
that's like that makes you like.

895
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,159
Speaker 3: A horrible It's not a one for one person. You

896
00:40:58,199 --> 00:40:59,840
just suck as a person, like you suck.

897
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: Do you think it's hilarious for people to get hit

898
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,199
and stuff like that and you're that whole policing a

899
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,639
baseball like those people suck?

900
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,519
Speaker 3: Just watch Goldie hit a mom go Reministe. I just

901
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:12,400
watched the was it the base bat boys? Baseball boys

902
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960
do a Goldie? Do you remember what the lineup was?

903
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: Video? It's funny. I was at the Pirates game I

904
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,679
went to with one of my friends. Uh, they were

905
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,119
there interviewing some of the Pirates guys and I've seen

906
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:26,039
those videos. Ok, they did the Goldie? Do you remember

907
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,559
your debut lineup?

908
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: And it was good doing Gonzo game seven?

909
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,039
Speaker 2: H Oh, that's a good one. So that's a good one.

910
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,159
Goldie was pretty good though he got it. It was

911
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:38,719
a throwback too because Kelly Johnson was on that team

912
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,840
and Jau Young and.

913
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,079
Speaker 3: What year was that? Two thy twelve?

914
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: Uh God, I was gonna say, no, Bogs, what are

915
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,800
you talking about? But that is fourteen years ago, so

916
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,039
that's possible. It could have been. That's well.

917
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:56,039
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I watched him live was

918
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:59,679
the first game at Salt Riverfield because I bought the

919
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:04,239
season tickets for that and it was it was twenty eleven,

920
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,760
by the way, and that it was twenty eleven? Was

921
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,679
the yd that that open not twenty twelve? I was mistaken,

922
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,840
but he he hit a homer to tie the game

923
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,880
after Charlie Blackman had hit a homer to go ahead

924
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,000
by a run to the t Bags first Rockies for

925
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,320
the first game, and they were both very young. I

926
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,519
think it was Charlie Blackman before the Beard.

927
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,039
Speaker 2: Now Blackman's retired, he's coaching with the Rockies, and Goldie

928
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,679
will move on to obscurity next year and we'll, you know,

929
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,599
it'll be a couple of years before the Diamonbacks can

930
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:37,159
convince him to be some you know, part of the

931
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,480
organization or whatever, which he probably doesn't want to be.

932
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:41,880
All Right, that's a lot of a lot of stuff

933
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,440
in there. Let's take a break. When we come back,

934
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,159
we're going to be looking at the last seven day leaders,

935
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,000
both hitting and pitching. See some guys that are highlighted out.

936
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,079
Maybe there's some conversation pieces around it. Let's break down

937
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,639
what baseball was this past week right here in this league.

938
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,719
It's in this league.

939
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: What plants craze.

940
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 4: It's got electrolytes.

941
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,119
Speaker 2: What are electrolytes?

942
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Do you even know?

943
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,039
Speaker 3: It's what they used to.

944
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: Make in this league. I'm the smartest guy in the

945
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,519
world who like q Test.

946
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:12,599
Speaker 3: She took him prison junior.

947
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: All right, last seven days, you'll start with batting average.

948
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:19,360
You're batting average leader random Marsh again, I think he

949
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,199
was might have done it last week, or he's been

950
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,280
on this before at the tippy top Shoyotani at four

951
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,480
eighty yourn for seventy six, Jung Huli and then he

952
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,519
had a little PCA in Yandi up in that business.

953
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,440
Let's go take a stop at the Brandon Marsh here,

954
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:37,239
because I definitelye thirty eight. That's what his current batting

955
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,039
average is, three.

956
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,639
Speaker 3: Thirty eight with eight homers, five swipes, thirty three runs

957
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:41,559
and thirty RBI.

958
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,559
Speaker 2: When we talked about him too, it was like, this

959
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:46,880
is a guy I feel like we pseudo wanted to

960
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,719
pay attention to the batting average was sticking. What is

961
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,599
weird or maybe not weird. It's just like future regression

962
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,159
type of things. When you look at the profile of

963
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,000
who he is, there's not a lot different like Barel,

964
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,519
about the same Laune angles, the same hard hits, the

965
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:07,760
same strikeouts are down slightly that Lngengle sweet spot. So

966
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,480
like his ability to get the ball in the air,

967
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,119
maybe he's like pull it slightly.

968
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: Mapp is crazy high. It's four to ten. Now he

969
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,880
has a high batpip in his career. His career backpip

970
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,920
is three seventy six.

971
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had an over three point fifty babip.

972
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: Jesus, I don't think I realized he hit two eighty last.

973
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:28,079
Speaker 2: Year fife of his last eight.

974
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just there's he's making some more impact this year.

976
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: He's at eight. Homer's already at eleven last year. Sixteen

977
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,960
in his career is his career high. And this is

978
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,480
through sixty games. So his expected adding average is three

979
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:42,679
or four. It supports it very high.

980
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, zone contacts actually down slightly according to the Baseball Savant,

981
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,800
but it looks like the decision making a little bit better.

982
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,880
I want to look at his swinger real quick in

983
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,360
bat tracking to see if there's anything that's happened there.

984
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960
Bath speed is about the same. I'm always interested in

985
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,000
that ideal.

986
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:04,079
Speaker 3: Swing is just his swing percentage is crazy high. It's

987
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:08,079
fifty two point two percent. His career is forty five percent.

988
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,559
Speaker 2: So he's just swinging a lot more. He's making contact

989
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:11,079
he's made.

990
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,079
Speaker 3: I guess MLB average is forty five percent. That's not

991
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,519
his career but uh, but yeah, he went from forty

992
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,800
six point seven last year to fifty two point two.

993
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,519
This is the only year he's been over fifty, you know,

994
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:23,440
swinging over fifty percent at pitches.

995
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, really interesting. I mean it there's a little

996
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,480
bit to say because there's nothing really to speak of.

997
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,920
It's probably like a very regression any type of person.

998
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,800
That's and I would say, like you have to look

999
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,480
at it that his expected batting average says he's going

1000
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:40,199
to be thirty points down, but he's still a three

1001
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,119
h four. But it's this service it's like fifth outfielder,

1002
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,920
serviceable stuff that he keeps putting down here. Yeah, I'm

1003
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,719
not I'm not hating another guy. We can just do

1004
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,199
this for a second, just to get him out of

1005
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,000
the way. But he's had a good week because he

1006
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:56,280
comes up in a few of these is Pete Armstrong,

1007
00:45:56,679 --> 00:46:00,239
Pete Crow hit for forty. He's also going to show

1008
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,239
up in kind of the leaders for home runs. And

1009
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,440
he can always be kind of dicey. You know, Pikro

1010
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:10,440
had the incredible first half and then you know, things

1011
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:12,960
kind of wander. He hit two thirty three in May,

1012
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:15,840
I mean, what was his April two thirty seven? In April,

1013
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,320
he's hitting four forty June. He's got a hit in

1014
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,719
every single game as we record this in June, and

1015
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,199
is this right? Yeah, he's got four homers this month

1016
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,079
in six games, so you and as well as stolen bases.

1017
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:33,280
So you're getting stolen bases, you're getting power. His batting

1018
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,639
average is up to two fifty eight, he's got eleven

1019
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:39,519
homers and fourteen stolen bases. So this is that thing again, dude,

1020
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,199
where it's like, I think we crapped on him so

1021
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,480
much because he was so good in the first and

1022
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:45,960
so bad in the second.

1023
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: Then out slow this year too.

1024
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: What if he's yeah, he did, You're right, he did.

1025
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,960
Start he's just streaky. What if he's just kind of median?

1026
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: What if the fourth I don't think he's even median, dude.

1027
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,880
I think he's young and streaky. I think, honestly think

1028
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,719
that's what it is. I think that's what we're going

1029
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,800
to see in the beginning of his career. Now that

1030
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,360
I think the big part for him is going to

1031
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,360
be trying to pull himself out of it, right, is

1032
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:13,840
to uh contribute consistently instead of being so unbelievably streaky.

1033
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,199
But we've seen plenty of guys, I mean how long

1034
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,599
has Marcus Simon been in the bigs and he's lived

1035
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:19,800
his entire career like this.

1036
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I was just wondering, like what if

1037
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:25,199
like some of those massive streaks became just like he

1038
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,239
gets too eighty, then he hits two forty, he hits

1039
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,840
two eighty, two forty, Like right now it's the opposite.

1040
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,719
He's hitting two thirty, and then he's hitting four hundred. Right,

1041
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
but if things could even out, like should we give

1042
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,159
it more credit? If he annually is a two fifty

1043
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,679
thirty thirty guy, he should be worth a lot more

1044
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,400
and we can just like lower some of our expectations.

1045
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Profile looks, you know, it looks relatively similar across the board.

1046
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,880
The hard hit is up, he's kind of back to

1047
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,800
pulling the living crap out of the ball. Maybe one

1048
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,559
positive is he's performing really well against fastballs, which he

1049
00:47:56,599 --> 00:48:00,920
struggled last year. The expected average is a bit lower,

1050
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,440
so him might come back down to earth which could

1051
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,280
look similar to last year. But overall, like he looks

1052
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,800
a little bit more averaged out amongst pitches, so he's

1053
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,199
not like getting absolutely you know, annihilated across the board. Though,

1054
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:17,880
now I'm seeing this because they're lumping fastballs forcing fastballs.

1055
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,960
He's hitting one ninety eight, which is better than last year,

1056
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,079
but it's sinkers that he's absolutely destroying this year. So

1057
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,159
he's really destroying sinkers forcing he's kind of struggling, So

1058
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,000
I don't know, he's just kind of a weird dude

1059
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:33,880
that bogs. Maybe he's like a just a fifth round

1060
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,039
type of guy, which still is an okay return. I

1061
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:37,679
actually don't think that somebody you can cry about if

1062
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:39,079
you got him in the third or you know, maybe

1063
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,199
sixth round or something like that.

1064
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if he finishes off the year hot,

1065
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,360
you're gonna get him back up in the second and

1066
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,800
third this year. So what do you do this year?

1067
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: Isn't like the third round.

1068
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: I think it was like late second, early third, so

1069
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,599
depending on who was taking him. But yeah, I think

1070
00:48:56,639 --> 00:49:00,199
that if he finishes hot, you're still because he's still

1071
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,880
twenty four, you know, so you're gonna see people are

1072
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,760
still gonna see a lot of upside there with PCA

1073
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,239
for the next three years. So I think he's probably

1074
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,039
gonna be overdrafted the next couple of years, unless he

1075
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:16,239
either gets really hot or bottoms out.

1076
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,039
Speaker 2: In the home run department. Four homers went to PCA

1077
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,079
and one other player. Thirteen players had three or more homers,

1078
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:26,639
But that other player it's Hunter Goodman. Hunter Goodman now

1079
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:30,559
sits at seventeen homers in two hundred and twenty seven

1080
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:34,599
at bats, hitting two forty two, five stolen bases, incredible

1081
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:38,800
bat speed. The hard hit is actually identical to last year.

1082
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:41,159
He's barreling the ball more, he's getting the ball in

1083
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:43,360
the air. He's pulling the ever living s out of

1084
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,639
the ball thirty five percent pulled air percentage, which is

1085
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,159
really making do with some stuff. And it's very funny

1086
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,079
because I was staring at my rest of season ranks

1087
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:56,679
and it's cal Raley's really tough because like, you know,

1088
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,159
the yeah, like that, but it's like he could come back,

1089
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,400
and we know who can be. I was having this

1090
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,599
really big struggle between Hunter Goodman and him.

1091
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,599
Speaker 3: But seeing his weird home road splits, by the way,

1092
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,880
tell him to me two oho four at home with

1093
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,639
six homers eleven homers away hitting two seventy four.

1094
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: That is so weird. Also, that kind of seems like

1095
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,760
a dude that can bounce up. But what I was

1096
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,159
saying was that actually kind of helps it. I was

1097
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:26,159
staring at Goodman versus cal ralely and I was just

1098
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:28,119
thinking to myself as I was doing the ranks, like

1099
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,400
I just cal Raley would kill to be Hunter Goodman

1100
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,639
right now, you know, And maybe the median version of

1101
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:38,039
cal Rawley is this now, to be fair, the positive

1102
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:41,000
version of cal Rawley, which we did see for it

1103
00:50:41,039 --> 00:50:43,360
was a year ago, was a guy that was hitting

1104
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,639
like two seventy with a billion homers. So the upside

1105
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,159
is maybe there, but like, and it doesn't work like this,

1106
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,760
but it's like if you could have moved cal Raley

1107
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,360
to get Goodman and something like, I would take that.

1108
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,679
So like, I think Hunter Goodman is a player hitting

1109
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,559
in Colorado the rest of the year. That's weird.

1110
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: Split I think is going to change that. I think

1111
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,000
every other year it's been the opposite. He's hit way

1112
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,079
better at home. So well, also, you expected two four

1113
00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:09,480
to come up, that's ridiculous.

1114
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have not told me that. And just

1115
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,760
it's Colorado, Like you got to git better at Colorado.

1116
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,599
So I don't think that's going to continue. So I

1117
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:19,519
think kinder Goodman is in that mid pack of catchers.

1118
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,920
But I ranked Goodman over cal Roly right now.

1119
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: I think he's just been hot in June and they

1120
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,679
probably have had mainly away games in June, I'm guessing.

1121
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: So. In the RBI department fourteen for Matt Chapman, God

1122
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,559
felt like he was a ghost. Dylan Dingler had ten,

1123
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,119
Jordan and Paradus both with nine, and then a bevy

1124
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:42,800
of players with eight. I like, I remember looking at

1125
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Chapman multiple times and just being like, is he dead?

1126
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,599
Are we done? And it kind of still feels that way.

1127
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:50,800
In two hundred and forty one at bats he has

1128
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,760
four homers on the year, zero stolen bases with a

1129
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,119
two forty five average, just a shell, and underlying stats

1130
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:01,519
also are kind of a shell. Bogs five percent barrel,

1131
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,440
which is continuing a four year decline. Average ex velocity

1132
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,880
the worst of his career eighty seven point seven. His

1133
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:13,599
XBA tells a worst story, his launch angles down. Is

1134
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,840
this just like part of a bad run, which real quick,

1135
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,880
because I want to say his babbit is actually better

1136
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,679
than his career. Is this part of a bad run

1137
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:26,880
that is going to turn? Or is this a declining?

1138
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,639
You know, I don't want to say stut or star

1139
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,960
or anything like that, but a declining good fantasy baseball

1140
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,800
player that is nothing more than league average.

1141
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,679
Speaker 3: Now, I okay, I don't think he's quite there yet,

1142
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:38,679
because the ISO is up this year too, and he

1143
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,920
has sixteen doubles already. He hit twenty three all year

1144
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,360
last year, so I think he's probably barely missing. So

1145
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,599
maybe just the overall power is down, but the power

1146
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:54,199
production with the ISO is higher than it has been

1147
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,159
since twenty twenty three for him when he played in Toronto.

1148
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,159
Speaker 2: So are you higher of him?

1149
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,079
Speaker 3: I am? I think he Also, he's no homers at home.

1150
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:04,000
He has zero homers and home, and all four of

1151
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:06,079
his bombs are on the road, so I'm sure that's

1152
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,880
an issue too. But I do like, I'm not a

1153
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:12,599
you must go out and buy this player because he's

1154
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,440
so low. But three of his homers have come in

1155
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:18,519
this month in June, in only seven games, So I

1156
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:20,679
feel like he is coming back a little bit now,

1157
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,639
and he is going to be dirt cheap even after

1158
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:26,559
this good week. I feel so because I think most

1159
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,800
people say, okay, thirty three year old playing in San

1160
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,400
Francisco hasn't hit any homers there. This is probably the

1161
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,639
beginning of the end for Matt Chapman. And that might

1162
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:37,719
be the case. But I think I'd be willing to

1163
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,639
buy on him if I could right now. I just don't.

1164
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,960
The price would have to be pretty low, you know,

1165
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,199
it's inter should be because of what he's done.

1166
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:49,159
Speaker 2: April he hit two eighty. May he hit one eighty six,

1167
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,280
and then he's up to three eighty one in June.

1168
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,039
I think you might be telling the better, like more

1169
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,800
balanced story. I think I'm out. I think I'm out

1170
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,480
on Matt Chapman overall. Like you, obviously, the declines are

1171
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,760
the results of whatever is going on, and that whatever's

1172
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,360
going on could be like, oh, it's just you know,

1173
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,199
like two bad months and he hasn't made his good

1174
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:14,159
contact and everything's going to kind of bounce back, or

1175
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,800
these could be the outliers of like this new symptom

1176
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:24,000
of like there's just worse overall production, like his XPA

1177
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,039
this is surprising, or his batting average two thirty two

1178
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,039
against fastballs, two fifty three against breaking and two eighty

1179
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:35,679
six against auspeed expected all dramatically lower. Thirty points are

1180
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,400
lower on every single one of those. So the XBA

1181
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:41,960
is telling a much different story. He's not pulling the

1182
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,239
ball as much. It's not a great ballpark.

1183
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,079
Speaker 3: You want Curtis Mead or do you want Matt Chapman.

1184
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:51,599
Speaker 2: I think Matt Chapman has the better upside, But like

1185
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,119
right now, I'm in a ten man league, I would

1186
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:56,280
drop Matt Chapman for Curtis Meat And I wouldn't think

1187
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,000
twice Nolan Ernado do the same thing Nolan Road has been.

1188
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:02,960
I actually think I take Aeronado over Matt Chapman rest

1189
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:03,480
of season.

1190
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:07,199
Speaker 3: I don't hate that. I just think that, you know,

1191
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,880
you could get if this is a case, if what

1192
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,920
you're saying is the case for most people, and I

1193
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,199
think you're a pretty good parometer for the market for baseball.

1194
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400
I think you can get him as a toss in. Yeah,

1195
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,360
and that's a basement yeah, get him for a toss

1196
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,679
in yeah yeah, well even even in a redraft league

1197
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,079
if you just need a c I even, you know,

1198
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:30,400
and you could get him back as a toss in

1199
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:32,760
or for you know, in a dynasty, like you said,

1200
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,800
a late pick or something. I think I would go

1201
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,480
ahead and do that because, like you said, his power

1202
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:41,079
is dramatically down, but three homers have been this month. Yeah,

1203
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:41,880
so you.

1204
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,199
Speaker 2: Know, well, I meant I wasn't talking in Dynasty at all.

1205
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,840
I was talking in reed draft like to me and redraft,

1206
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,960
like you know, as a throw in or something like that,

1207
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,400
and you want to play around. But I'm not interested

1208
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,199
in him. In a ten man I might not be interested,

1209
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,480
to be honest with you, like the same thing would

1210
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:01,039
fly in like a like a five twelve man league,

1211
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:03,280
you know that has some available players, Like if Curtis

1212
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,920
me just sitting out there, I dump them for that.

1213
00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:07,519
But I get, but I get your take.

1214
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 3: I get.

1215
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean, his own contact is up. You know, some

1216
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,400
of these things kind of seem like wildly lowers. Max

1217
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,360
ev is like still there, he's striking out less and

1218
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,679
stuff like that. But I just think there's too many

1219
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,440
warning signs. Plus it's like a bad ballpark, and I

1220
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,800
think I'm just like just kind of out on Chapman.

1221
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,760
Dylan Dingler is another one of those like really weird ones.

1222
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,559
Batting average is kind of stunk. I feel like we

1223
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,599
have this, we have this every year with a couple

1224
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:37,719
of these catchers, big huge power output. His profile looks,

1225
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,079
you know, it looks reminiscent of It almost looks reminiscent

1226
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,320
of like Ben Rice last year, but there's just no

1227
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,360
batting average to support. To check this out, fourteen homers,

1228
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,639
two thirty five average.

1229
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 5: He has expected like Exwoba expected slug top three percentile

1230
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,159
of the league, barrel percentage thirteen point nine, top fifteen percentile,

1231
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,960
hard hit rates over fifty percent, top ten percentile.

1232
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: His XBA is two ninety seven. That is sixty points

1233
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,039
higher than where he's at. So even if you cut

1234
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:11,800
the middle, if you've got a two sixty catcher with

1235
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,880
that fourteen power output, if he continues this run which

1236
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,039
guess what, Yes, he's pulling the ball in the air.

1237
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,280
He's getting the ball in the air more. He's barreling

1238
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,920
the ball dramatically more and hitting it hard, he might

1239
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,320
be a thirty home run hitter with a two to

1240
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,880
fifty average. Dingler is a top ten fantasy catcher rest

1241
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,159
of season. It's hard to argue.

1242
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: Again, you'd rather have him than Liam Hicks now right?

1243
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I would.

1244
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: This month, he hit two twenty four in May after

1245
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,239
hitting three to fifteen with seven homers in April. In March,

1246
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,639
so I think I think the Liam Hicks train might

1247
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:46,000
be over.

1248
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, little poupos, Yeah, I was messing with him in

1249
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,239
the updated ranks. That's a tough one. Amphrazing. In the

1250
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,400
runs apartment, we had Churio with eight runs as well

1251
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,760
as Yellich. Bowers had seven. So lots of Brewers, Camonaro,

1252
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,280
Nick Gonzales in there, anybody that you want to talk

1253
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,599
about it and there we talked about Bowers recently. I

1254
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:09,679
think in last week's episode. There's kind of some big

1255
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,239
names that are floating out there. Mean, I suppose we

1256
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:14,039
haven't talked a ton about Trio what well, I want

1257
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:15,559
to talk about a bigger name here. What is Jose

1258
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:16,960
Ramirez hitting for June?

1259
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,119
Speaker 3: Because his XBA has been high all year, but he

1260
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:21,480
keeps hitting two thirty which has been frustrating.

1261
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: Taking look here, Yeah, he's still hitting two thirty eight

1262
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:28,480
in June. He either hitting three thirty three after hitting

1263
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,599
two thirty four in May and two fifty in April,

1264
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:35,320
so picked it back up. No homers to speak of,

1265
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,719
but he has hits in four of six games so

1266
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,800
far this month and he has raised it. The thing

1267
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,280
is his life.

1268
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,079
Speaker 3: He in then MVP voting, by the way, Oh, I

1269
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:49,079
think he's like fifth or six or something like that.

1270
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,079
He's got to be pretty low. But I mean, if

1271
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,400
the odds are really great and we're gonna have you know,

1272
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,239
Bobby Wake get hurt and Aaron Judge get hurt in

1273
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,480
front of him. We know Jordan gets hurt almost every year. Like,

1274
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:02,000
might not be a bad invent this second. If he's

1275
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,679
gonna start hitting three hundred for the rest of the year.

1276
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that's been your play. You did

1277
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,960
that on the thing. I mean I don't I just

1278
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,519
don't think I can necessarily touch it. But to your point,

1279
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,920
ten homers, twenty three stolen bases with a two eighty

1280
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,360
six XBA. If from this point on he was hitting

1281
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,320
three hundred plus and the Guardians continue to win games,

1282
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:27,320
he is likely, if this pace continues, gonna be a

1283
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,519
thirty sixty guy. That's actually kind of a sneaky bet.

1284
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,159
I can't see it now because NL games have started

1285
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:36,920
and DK's not showing any but I think it was

1286
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:40,719
like there's like eight, you know, eight plus eight thousand

1287
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,480
or something like that. Like someone he's.

1288
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,159
Speaker 3: Got ten homers. All the projection places have in between

1289
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:48,159
thirteen and seventeen mores that put him somewhere between twenty

1290
00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:51,320
five and thirty. I always the projections have him at

1291
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,639
twenty to.

1292
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: I always like to look at war when I look

1293
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,679
at MVP stuff because I know war what is a

1294
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:03,239
good for? But like war is one of those things

1295
01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:06,320
of like you know that, like you're gonna get like

1296
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,559
riders and stuff paying attention to I guess to his credit,

1297
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:12,199
he's in the top thirty. He has a two point

1298
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,639
three WAR, but Bobby Witt has a three point eight.

1299
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:19,480
He could make that up if he starts going ballistic,

1300
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,480
and then it could be an interesting case in the

1301
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:23,800
AO where it's like Bob, but the top two guys

1302
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,800
in war, there's only three players with a three war.

1303
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,320
It's actually this is gonna be nuts. Bobby Witt three

1304
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,719
point eight, Jordon Alvarez three point four.

1305
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:34,119
Speaker 3: Can you guess who the third player is? So say

1306
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:36,400
it again, it's Bobby Witt jord On Alvarez.

1307
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: Those are the there's only three players that have a

1308
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,719
war of three or higher as far as hitters go,

1309
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,639
I'm not looking at pictures here. We have talked about

1310
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:44,880
this man on this show.

1311
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 3: One more time. Who are the top two?

1312
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Alvaism Wit? Who the best players in baseball?

1313
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: Is it not Judge?

1314
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: Nope, It's also hurt now he was in the twos.

1315
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,719
He's not even in the top thirty right now, Ben Rice,

1316
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,320
he's seventh on the list with a two point seven.

1317
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: We've talked about it in this episode Jordan Walker, when

1318
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,840
we haven't talked about Jordan Walker. I don't know who

1319
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,039
is it.

1320
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:12,559
Speaker 2: I don't know Pete Crow Armstrong PCA, especially with fielding

1321
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:14,599
defensive what's his fielding war is it?

1322
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:15,519
Speaker 3: Most of it?

1323
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: It's eleven point nine. Yeah, offense a point five. That's

1324
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,039
the defensive what do they call defensive fielding and position

1325
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:28,960
adjustment combined above average? That the defensive rating here is

1326
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,840
is an eleven point nine. Bobby wits a fifteen for

1327
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,119
reference with an offensive eleven point seven. Very just very interesting.

1328
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,559
But yeah, I mean Ramirez could definitely boost that up

1329
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,719
and he could start making that a lot closer. It's

1330
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,199
not a whole lot of room you have to do,

1331
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,800
but that's a good speculative bet if you wanted to

1332
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,239
do that. In the Stolen based apartment, speaking Bobby Waite,

1333
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:52,159
he now leads the league. I believe he's tied with

1334
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,559
Jose Ramirez. That yeah, him and Jose Ramirez have twenty

1335
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:57,760
three as well as n seem noon. He has ridiculous.

1336
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,440
Two of the top five players you took in a

1337
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:04,320
leading the league in stolen bases, which is nuts, and

1338
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:08,159
Bobby Witt leads the way. Julio Rodriguez he had six

1339
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:10,360
and last week Julio had four in the past week

1340
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,679
and a whole bunch of guys had three. So Wit

1341
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,239
and Julio kind of doing their damage. Bobby Wit still

1342
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:17,960
very underrated. That's why you don't want to lose him.

1343
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,880
But man, I gotta throw this at you now that

1344
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,440
we've talked about at BOGS. Here's your comparison Bobby Witt

1345
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,800
and Jose Ramirez. Ramirez has one more homer, six more runs,

1346
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,480
six more RBI, the same amount of stolen bases, has

1347
01:02:33,519 --> 01:02:38,840
a four percent better walk rate, a five percent better

1348
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:45,239
strikeout percentage only thirteen percent, and he's hitting about over

1349
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,320
forty points lower.

1350
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,039
Speaker 3: His remeetrative numbers are not what Bobby's saying.

1351
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: No, it's like a three. His offensive rating is out there.

1352
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:56,280
I guess what I'm just saying. He owns four of

1353
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,199
the five categories over Bobby Witt. Right now, just start going, yeah,

1354
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:03,239
I know about average is down. If he were to

1355
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,480
start clicking in right now and get that average up

1356
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:09,039
to like two seventy two eighty, there might be a discussion.

1357
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: Plus three thousand. By the way, hard Rock still has

1358
01:03:11,519 --> 01:03:14,280
thirty to one. Yeah, so thirty to one along with

1359
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:21,840
the same odds as Cameron Arrow, Shayelangeliers and a thout.

1360
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,559
You know, Buckston is forty to one, but the guys

1361
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,320
ahead of him are Kurtz, Rice Alvarez Wit like you

1362
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,440
said with still With and Alvarez on hard Rock are

1363
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,039
both plus one thirty five to lead, and then Ben

1364
01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:34,559
Lee's plus three to fifty.

1365
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: Cleveland owns the division. They are tie.

1366
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: Well.

1367
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,039
Speaker 2: I guess the Yankees are the most wins in the AL,

1368
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:45,880
but they have the second most wins. Pretty interesting. That's

1369
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,039
actually a very if I I'm not that's not really

1370
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:49,960
my market. I don't just don't do that stuff like

1371
01:03:50,239 --> 01:03:52,599
Joe or anybody, but like I, that would be something

1372
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:54,639
I would think about sprinkling a little on. That might

1373
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:56,239
be a fun one to watch.

1374
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: All right.

1375
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: A couple slumping guys over the last two weeks. We

1376
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,760
have Kyle Tucker hit names. Yeah, Kyle Tucker hitting one

1377
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,320
sixty seven still with one, Homer Manny Machado one forty nine,

1378
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,159
he does have three homers. William Contrera is only two thirteen.

1379
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:15,239
Nico Horner's back on this with two sixteen, no homers,

1380
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:18,920
two stolen bases. Mikey Trout won sixty seven with a homer,

1381
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,760
Joe Adell a couple homers in here, Alex Bregman down

1382
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,000
to two eighteen, one homer, no stolen bases. A few

1383
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:28,559
other players, Jackson Merrill continues to stink, even though I

1384
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:30,679
liked him and Chandler Simpson. He has not had a

1385
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:32,920
stolen base in almost a month. Like it is insane,

1386
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,079
and he's a little crazy, and he's banged up right now.

1387
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,480
Leeds a league in Cott steals hasn't stolen a base

1388
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:40,480
in like a month. He's banged up. It's a disaster

1389
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:43,239
for him. So I remember I did that video get

1390
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,800
out while you can, uh who stands out to you

1391
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,400
on this? I know you've been kind of a Tucker defender.

1392
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,119
I think in the last episode we talked about how

1393
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:53,480
you're done with it. Contreras is alarming. I just I

1394
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,480
think the only hard part about who are.

1395
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: You buying right now? I guess because like you can't

1396
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,920
you can't buy Tucker with him playing this bad and

1397
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:02,480
knowing he was still a first round the cost was

1398
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,320
going to be too high.

1399
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,639
Speaker 2: You could just thought too high. The only problem with

1400
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:09,000
this list, I feel like this list is a carryover

1401
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:10,559
the last time we did this. It's I don't know,

1402
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,880
two weeks. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of

1403
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,119
new names on this list, so it's like there's not

1404
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,079
much that's changed.

1405
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: Your question had a really crap week. I think he's new.

1406
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,039
I think Springer wasn't on this list last week. Maybe

1407
01:05:22,039 --> 01:05:23,960
William Catrez wasn't. But it's a lot of the same

1408
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:25,639
names and it's going to continue to be a lot

1409
01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:25,719
of this.

1410
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you buy I would probably buy Nico Horner

1411
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,079
on the cheap because he steals a lot of bases

1412
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,119
and he typically hits for a lot of average.

1413
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:36,119
Speaker 3: You buy a man in Machado.

1414
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: I was before. I don't think he can be this bad,

1415
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,599
So I do think there's like, and this isn't great

1416
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:45,199
analytical argument, but it's one of those it's like, he

1417
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:48,239
can't keep continuously being this bad. So like, i'd buy

1418
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,320
him on the cheat if you're asking me, like, I

1419
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,000
think there's quite a few players Tucker I buy in

1420
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,440
the cheap Machata, I buy in the cheap William Catres.

1421
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Maybe i'd be so I'm more than interesting catchers those two.

1422
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,320
But if you're saying, like, who would I have to

1423
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,239
buy with smaller discounts, I think Nico Horner because he's

1424
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,639
kind of lower valued. I think if you consider Trout's

1425
01:06:08,639 --> 01:06:11,199
overall value in the public conversation, I think he's just

1426
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,440
kind of overall cheap. I think the one I'm surprised

1427
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,400
at myself about is Alex Bregman. I just don't think

1428
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,840
I'm interested in Bregman at all, and maybe that's silly.

1429
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,559
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of fair to not be interested

1430
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:24,079
in most of these guys. I think, you know, spring

1431
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:26,159
Put a guy I would buy by the way I

1432
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:28,360
did it, and that's fine too. I think he's gone

1433
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,400
down cheap enough to where you can get him still.

1434
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,599
But I think I think Tucker Machado is still going

1435
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:34,559
to be too expensive, so I'm not doing that. I

1436
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,920
think you're caught on Horner is perfect. I don't know

1437
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,320
about Bregman. I'm probably more in than you are, but

1438
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:44,360
not quite there yet. You know, I'm not buying Trout

1439
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,840
because it's like, Okay, he's bad and now he could

1440
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,320
get hurt later, so pass on that. The rest of

1441
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,199
these guys don't really matter. I'm not buying Nimo. Riley Simpson, Yeah,

1442
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:54,000
I have no interest.

1443
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm just out of the business. It's a very weird

1444
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,760
listed and very weird list. All right, let's go over

1445
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,119
to pictures. Some of the high end pictures that had

1446
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:03,360
some good starts. Yamamoto eight innings, four strikeouts against the Angels,

1447
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,480
only two hits. That's probably why you were like, hey,

1448
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:07,880
let's put Yamamoto in that conversation.

1449
01:07:08,239 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: Still good.

1450
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Ryan, even though his arm almost fell off,

1451
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:14,199
six innings, six strikeouts, one and run against Kansas City.

1452
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,400
Jacob de Gram six innings, six strikeouts, three hits against Cleveland.

1453
01:07:18,039 --> 01:07:19,960
Both of those players were kind of in my cell

1454
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:21,960
articles over the last two weeks are on Fantasy Pro.

1455
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:24,480
Those don't look great, but yeah, I one was a

1456
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,599
by Hoigh or one was a Cell high in d Grom,

1457
01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:28,880
and the other was like, you know, should we be

1458
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,519
more worried about his arm in de Gram? Apparently we shouldn't.

1459
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Cam Schlitzer came back five innings, five strikeouts against Boston.

1460
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,920
Jacob Mizerowski seven innings did up three walks, but eight

1461
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:39,639
k's at Colorado.

1462
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: One head taken off right.

1463
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one skull he claimed as his own. Nolan

1464
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,599
McClain six innings, five strikeouts against San Diego. San Diego's

1465
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,599
offense is so but I saw a tweet did it

1466
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:55,280
go away? Oh damn it? It was like, oh man,

1467
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,599
I wish I'd saved it. It was like the San

1468
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:01,000
Diego Padres offense this year compared to is Zach Granky's

1469
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:05,480
career batting, And it was like Zach Granky his career

1470
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,400
as a hitter was better than the entire Padres team

1471
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:11,480
off That's what's in Yeah, or maybe it was like

1472
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,199
over the last month or something. Dude, by the way,

1473
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,720
like the next day after I brought that up, I

1474
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,079
saw people tweeting about those guys again, and I was.

1475
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: Like, oh, are they still are they still a thing?

1476
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: No, they were just tweeting the video.

1477
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,199
Speaker 3: They were just like the Padres and dads or dads, yes,

1478
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:30,479
the Padres dads. Yeah, that's like I've been I've been

1479
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:34,520
sending all kinds of cringey reel, sarboyage, Joe piece of

1480
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,000
pa that that would fit right in there. That one

1481
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:39,399
of them could be. If it comes up again, I'm

1482
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,399
definitely sending to them.

1483
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: So I like it. Zach Wheeler seven innings, eight strikeouts. Man,

1484
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:47,880
was that right about Wheeler? Eight strikeers? You two? Sannygo

1485
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,000
Padres again, just dominating those guys, Sunny Gray six and

1486
01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:53,439
one third, three strikeouts. Theyre going runs against the Yankees.

1487
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,439
A good trade candidate. Drew Rasmus in seven innings of

1488
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,239
one yeah, all and nine strikeouts against Miami.

1489
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 3: Hello, he's been white hot, hasn't he? Am I making

1490
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,840
that up? Is it just this start? I feel like

1491
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,680
he's been really good.

1492
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't recall, but you tell me.

1493
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,079
Speaker 3: I don't think I have any shares with Drew rasmusen.

1494
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:11,279
But uh, let's take a look.

1495
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:12,319
Speaker 2: I know that now.

1496
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,159
Speaker 3: You know what he got shelled in his last art

1497
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:16,560
four innings, five earned, but before that it was another

1498
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,239
seven innings, no earned, five and a third two earn,

1499
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,079
six innings, three earned. Like he's had a lot of

1500
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:23,479
qss in here this year.

1501
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: A very interesting one is Sandio Contra seven innings, seven

1502
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,319
strikeouts and earned run. I won't do this whole thing again.

1503
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,600
I kind of pseudo talked about it. On fantasy pros.

1504
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,439
But I spent like part of the morning this morning

1505
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,399
because I got up earlier, and I just like went

1506
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,880
down this rabbit hole of staring at like run values,

1507
01:09:40,039 --> 01:09:42,479
but individual pitch run values. And then it got me

1508
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,479
into like looking at a bunch of different pitches and

1509
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,039
leaders and the guys that were the worst, and and

1510
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,920
but part of it all came from me staring at

1511
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,000
Sandy O Contra and looking did you know in twenty

1512
01:09:55,079 --> 01:09:58,520
twenty two, let me backtrack for a second, what do

1513
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,600
you think of good run value on a pitch? You know,

1514
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,760
like you go starah at Baseball Savant and you see,

1515
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,319
like you know, it's in red and something like that,

1516
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,319
you see an EID or something like that, Like, what

1517
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:08,520
do you think the run value on it?

1518
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 3: I think anything about five is pretty good, isn't it.

1519
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you start getting like the dark darker

1520
01:10:14,039 --> 01:10:16,199
red when you get to like eight or nine or

1521
01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:18,920
something like that. So is that what you're like?

1522
01:10:19,159 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I don't know.

1523
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: So take a guess with san Dieo Contra's run value

1524
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:27,479
on his change up and again, run value as for

1525
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,119
an under quick understanding is it'll be like the value

1526
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,680
of pitch to pitch. What that pitch does getting like,

1527
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,880
let's say it's the change up getting from an zero

1528
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,279
to one strikeout to a second strike or getting a

1529
01:10:43,319 --> 01:10:46,319
guy out with runners on base. Like, there's a formula

1530
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,159
that is attached to each pitch and it creates like

1531
01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:53,000
overall run value. That's a very rudimentric way for me

1532
01:10:53,039 --> 01:10:54,800
to say, So, what do you think like san die

1533
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,039
O Contra's twenty twenty two change up run value.

1534
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 3: Was, oh, like a twenty six, dude.

1535
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: You almost nailed it. It was a twenty seven. I'm

1536
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:04,560
shocked that you went.

1537
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: Did he win that year?

1538
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: I think so? Twenty two run value on his change

1539
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,960
up that's the most ridiculous. I haven't gone and looked

1540
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,000
at any leaderboards to see as anybody had a run

1541
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:19,680
value higher on an individual pitch. I kind of love

1542
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,279
to know. But the reason I went down that rabbit

1543
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:28,520
hole was how not good he has been? How like,

1544
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:31,760
what what's the run value on the rest of his pitches?

1545
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:33,279
What that year?

1546
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: This year? This year?

1547
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, well because because it's not a twenty seven

1548
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,479
this year, by the way, his change up run value

1549
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,399
this year, this was my main point. It's a negative

1550
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,960
three everybody knew Sandy as the change up guy. It's

1551
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,119
a negative three this year. He does have a run

1552
01:11:52,199 --> 01:11:55,479
value of five on his cutter, it's negative four on

1553
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,800
his four seam, and he has a three on his sinker.

1554
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:01,439
So that's it sinker and have been go two pitches,

1555
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,279
and so I went down this rabbit hole of looking

1556
01:12:03,279 --> 01:12:07,079
and being like man, his change up he can't go

1557
01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:10,000
to and get punch outs. Also because in that start

1558
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:15,199
he had a twenty two percent CSW on his change

1559
01:12:15,239 --> 01:12:16,560
up all of.

1560
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,119
Speaker 3: His have you seen the batting average against on hole?

1561
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,520
Speaker 2: Let me, I'm gonna lose this. Uh, the change up

1562
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:27,600
twenty two percent CSW percentage that means whiffs and called

1563
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:32,079
strikes only twenty two. That sucks ass, that's bad. So

1564
01:12:32,119 --> 01:12:34,279
then you go down this rabbit hole. What's his change

1565
01:12:34,359 --> 01:12:37,720
up value? Oh it's a negative three? Oh it's two

1566
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,760
eighty one against Why is he getting banged around because

1567
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,560
he doesn't have that change up to get his whifs?

1568
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,680
And what's he having to do? He's having to go

1569
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,359
to his sinker and is force seen more And guess

1570
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:50,840
what two seventy eight against his sinker, three twenty nine

1571
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,319
against his fastball Because that changeup doesn't do what it

1572
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,920
used to do and get him in those great counts.

1573
01:12:57,279 --> 01:13:00,680
He's probably being pushed into more spot where he's got

1574
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,880
to throw these sinkers and fastballs in places he doesn't

1575
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,159
want to, which is creating some of the inconsistencies and

1576
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:09,239
him getting hit around a little bit. It's a very

1577
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,880
basic ass like I me not doing. I'd have to

1578
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,239
do a couple hours of research to like really compare

1579
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:18,239
like all this stuff. But like it was, I had,

1580
01:13:18,319 --> 01:13:20,359
I went down this rabbit hole of this change up,

1581
01:13:20,359 --> 01:13:21,520
and what the hell happened with it?

1582
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, the change up, like you said, is

1583
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,199
what he works everything off of, and it's getting crushed

1584
01:13:26,279 --> 01:13:29,800
right now to eighty one. But his sinker is also

1585
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,560
getting hit at two seventy eight, and his four seamers

1586
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,760
getting hit at three twenty nine. I just said, but

1587
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:38,319
I understand, I understand. Hold on, let me finish my point.

1588
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,359
The sinker last year was two sixty eight, two twenty

1589
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,239
and then two sixty two. So these like this, these

1590
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,439
pitches get hit from him. They're not like impervious, they're

1591
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,039
not like amazing great pitches, but they don't all get

1592
01:13:51,119 --> 01:13:54,199
hit at over twoin fifty at any point, So like,

1593
01:13:54,279 --> 01:13:56,560
I don't understand what's going on with him. I feel

1594
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,319
like he needs to use AI to se be tipping

1595
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,079
or something because this is ridiculu. The whiff rate on

1596
01:14:01,119 --> 01:14:02,760
the change up is still insane. It's still thirty one

1597
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,079
point one. That's better than last year. But it feels

1598
01:14:06,119 --> 01:14:08,119
like people know what's coming because they're hitting it at

1599
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:10,039
two eighty one when they hit it at two twenty

1600
01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:13,760
eight last year. So maybe it's just bad, but it's

1601
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,840
very weird to see the three pitches that he throws

1602
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,439
the most all getting banged around.

1603
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: That's crazy, yeah, I mean, And my logic to it

1604
01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:23,399
is what I was saying, was I think the change up,

1605
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,439
it's it's less effective than ever and it has led

1606
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,239
him to relying on those two pitches more and in

1607
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:31,560
spot because again, run value is in the spots that

1608
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,960
you're throwing them, and it has created and put him

1609
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,560
in a situation where he's getting hit more because the

1610
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,119
change up doesn't work early on.

1611
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: Or is it weird that it's getting banged around so bad?

1612
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,600
But the whiff rate in the putaway rate is better

1613
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,600
this year than it was last year on the change up.

1614
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:45,600
That's crazy.

1615
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all weird. It's again like smarter people could

1616
01:14:49,119 --> 01:14:53,479
do better understandings. Mine is a super basic ass version

1617
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,439
of it. But yeah, I wish I had better answers

1618
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,479
for it. All it has led me to believe is

1619
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,600
like he's just inconsistent, Like these are this is the

1620
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,760
reasons for those inconsistencies. And I don't believe we're gonna

1621
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,359
see the same versions of Sandy that we've seen in

1622
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:12,039
the past. I think those might be kind of gone,

1623
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:13,840
you know, because it's like he still is you can

1624
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,399
go deep into games and he can get out, So

1625
01:15:15,399 --> 01:15:17,000
that doesn't mean he's a horrible pitcher by the way.

1626
01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:20,479
You know, he's got these other pitches. His cutter has

1627
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,600
been a lot more valuable this year and he's relying

1628
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,119
on it. But it's just like he had a formula

1629
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,640
that worked and that's gone and those elite has gone.

1630
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 3: He's even like, you know, he's throwing out of the

1631
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,439
zone more and getting more swings on it and it's

1632
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,039
still not going well with rate is exactly the same

1633
01:15:37,079 --> 01:15:39,000
from last year. I don't understand any of this. That's

1634
01:15:39,079 --> 01:15:41,520
very strange. Yeah, that's weird. I like that you went

1635
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,840
down that weird rabbit hole because this does this looks

1636
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,560
really weird?

1637
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had me a lot butch By the way,

1638
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:49,479
if you just want to look at run values, Sean

1639
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,920
Newcomb is the next big breakout guy. Like he is.

1640
01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:53,960
He has one of the most valuable fast pulse in

1641
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,039
baseball right now. It's ridiculous as a reliever with the

1642
01:15:56,039 --> 01:16:00,239
White Sox. It is stupid what he's doing right now.

1643
01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:03,279
But it's really funny looking too, because I think the

1644
01:16:03,399 --> 01:16:06,399
least valuable slider in all of baseball is Brian bo

1645
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:10,479
big shocker there, So going down that rabbit hole. A

1646
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,039
couple of the pictures I wanted to point out Mike

1647
01:16:13,079 --> 01:16:16,159
Soroca seven eighty six strikeouts against Washington could just continues

1648
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,479
to be good. Tanner Biby had eight innings with three strikeouts.

1649
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,439
But the guy that really stood out justin Robleski. That's

1650
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,560
one I kind of I actually was going to go

1651
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:26,720
in the wrong I think I mentioned this, I was

1652
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,079
going to go in the other direction of Robleski, and

1653
01:16:29,119 --> 01:16:31,840
then I pushed against it in that like I think

1654
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,159
him being a starter and learning how to be a

1655
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:37,159
starter like that effectiveness is going to keep going because

1656
01:16:37,159 --> 01:16:39,319
his pitches are really good. He was also one of

1657
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:41,840
those guys that I think had like if I remember correctly,

1658
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,239
had a hot Yeah, is it an eleven run value

1659
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,920
on his fastball? So he is throwing that thing in

1660
01:16:49,079 --> 01:16:52,399
spots that is getting outs, whether it is you know,

1661
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,680
men on two men on, you know, getting into one

1662
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,760
to two strikeout counts. But he's fat. I don't know

1663
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,520
if you've heard about this. He's so fast, fascinating. Did

1664
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,000
you know that he has like a book that he

1665
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:06,239
writes in after every start and he goes pitch by

1666
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:10,479
pitch and situationally looks at everything. And he was talking.

1667
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 3: He say, he's looking at too much Welsh. I think

1668
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,119
that's way too much work to be doing, and that

1669
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:15,680
much work.

1670
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,239
Speaker 2: But he said, like he he's like if someone looked

1671
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:20,960
at my book, they would think I'm like a psycho

1672
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,079
and they wouldn't understand it.

1673
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,039
Speaker 3: He is it written in symbols or English.

1674
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,399
Speaker 2: But he's got like lots of information. I think he

1675
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,760
put like hard hit rates on it and stuff, and

1676
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,880
he had just gained to game on how he performs,

1677
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,520
and he I think puts his own value on the

1678
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:41,600
decision making he does. I find him fascinating. He analytically

1679
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,600
is not like sexy. It's a sixteen percent K percentage,

1680
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,600
And you know, I don't know if any of the

1681
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,399
stuff is actually otherworldly. He doesn't walk a whole lot,

1682
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,039
but like, he just keeps getting it done, and he's

1683
01:17:52,079 --> 01:17:54,720
a frickin' gamer and he's doing it almost primarily being

1684
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,359
a two pitch pitcher. But his fastball is one of

1685
01:17:57,399 --> 01:17:59,960
the better higher rated fastballs and all of baseball right

1686
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:02,720
right now with how he's using it and how he

1687
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,600
commands and doesn't walk. So I'm I'm a firm believer

1688
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,119
in Roblest.

1689
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: How much does a body that he doesn't get strikeouts though, Yeah,

1690
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,640
it totally bothers me. That's why the second lowest k

1691
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,399
per nine in among qualified starters.

1692
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm telling you, I was staring at him

1693
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,680
like a month ago, and I was ready to put

1694
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,479
him in the op like the get rid of him territory,

1695
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,279
by the way, and then I just like reverted and

1696
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:28,479
I reverted some.

1697
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 3: Of these names down here fromber is thirteenth worst and

1698
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,359
we'll be down k per nine. Nick Martinez is dead last,

1699
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:42,000
and Robleski, then cater Montero McGreevey, Andrew Abbott, Sandy Eduardo Keller,

1700
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:46,079
Ryan Nelson Basquez. That's your top ten just of qualified pictures.

1701
01:18:46,119 --> 01:18:47,960
How many? How many are even qualified?

1702
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 4: This?

1703
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:54,039
Speaker 3: Uh sixty seven it looks like and obviously miss is

1704
01:18:54,119 --> 01:18:55,560
highest caper nine.

1705
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 2: That's a weird group. Rookie Sazaki continues to dominate. Seven innings,

1706
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,600
ten strikeouts. Dude, he is. He's found that splitter, he's

1707
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,359
found he found the three pitches, and he's coming into

1708
01:19:07,359 --> 01:19:11,520
his own. Seven innings, two hits, ten strikeouts, two walks

1709
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,600
against the Angels. Nice to do it against the Angels,

1710
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:18,279
but ridiculous. And Bryce Miller six innings, nine strikeouts against

1711
01:19:18,319 --> 01:19:21,680
Detroit under fifty percent owned. There's some dudes in here.

1712
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,359
I labeled read debtmers as a buy. Six innings, six strikeouts,

1713
01:19:25,399 --> 01:19:30,920
two walks, two hits. Way yeah, he's way way up there.

1714
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:32,680
I talked about him and the as a guy that

1715
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,199
I want to buy right now. I'm interested in the

1716
01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:39,600
pitch mix. He's actually lowered the v low on his

1717
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,159
fastball in his slider, but he's changed the shape and

1718
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,800
you're seeing the results to it, like you're having some

1719
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,359
tremendously good results. His walks are down like and there's

1720
01:19:51,359 --> 01:19:53,560
a lot of trade rumors floating out there. I'm kind

1721
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,960
of into Redebtmers is like getting him thrown in some

1722
01:19:56,079 --> 01:19:58,960
trades right now, because what he's doing I think is fascinating.

1723
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,680
And you know, I mean, I've heard rumors of him

1724
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,039
go to the White Sox, which I'm not sure I

1725
01:20:03,039 --> 01:20:05,159
would love, but they do some great stuff with pitchers

1726
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:07,760
as well. I think I'm just in the Reed Debtner's market,

1727
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,760
even though he's one of those guys that's like v

1728
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,720
low down bad, but I don't know, it seems like

1729
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,760
shape good.

1730
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: His XCRA is two ninety two and his actually ARI

1731
01:20:17,079 --> 01:20:21,079
is four twenty six too, so high strikeouts, much better

1732
01:20:21,239 --> 01:20:24,079
expected era than actually era, and the potential to move

1733
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:26,479
to a better team for more wins. Sign me up.

1734
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,399
I'm all about it.

1735
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: Starting pitching market. JT Ginn six innings, eight strikeouts, forty

1736
01:20:31,039 --> 01:20:34,560
four percent. Noah Cameron six innings, seven strikeouts, only two

1737
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,600
hits against Minnesota forty four percent on Jared Jones went

1738
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,800
five innings, four strikeouts, two walks against Houston and Tatsuya

1739
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,000
My five innings, two in runs, three walks, but eight

1740
01:20:45,039 --> 01:20:50,640
strikeouts against the A's forty two per gain. Cameron Jones, Ami,

1741
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:51,279
you get one?

1742
01:20:51,319 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 3: Who do you want in my Mine's been great, it's

1743
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,399
probably again, it's probably again. But Ami has been great

1744
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,600
since coming off the I Out, he has been I

1745
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,520
think he had a bad start in his first one.

1746
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,960
The next three have been really good. So I like, uh,

1747
01:21:04,039 --> 01:21:05,880
I like all these guys. I think they're they all

1748
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,079
should be over fifty percent.

1749
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:11,119
Speaker 2: But I actually agree with you. I probably take Jared Jones,

1750
01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:14,159
but but again is right there, like right like I

1751
01:21:14,199 --> 01:21:15,760
like both of those guys. I just like the Jared

1752
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,159
Jones like strikeout potential. But I'm the I. I still

1753
01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:20,279
you know how I am with am I but he

1754
01:21:20,319 --> 01:21:22,439
definitely Yeah. But but it's like all the stuff that

1755
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,760
I said is now happening. I feel like for am

1756
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,720
I finally so it but somebody.

1757
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:29,159
Speaker 3: That picked him up off the wire, not it was

1758
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:32,159
well of course, yet that's true. Yeah, so I was wrong.

1759
01:21:32,199 --> 01:21:34,239
I'm not gonna I'm not saying it was right, but

1760
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,119
I didn't say. I know, I know, I know, I

1761
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:38,640
know you're not accusing me. But I just think that

1762
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,039
the stuff that I thought was going to happen is

1763
01:21:41,119 --> 01:21:45,039
happening now. But it took a big personal and cultural

1764
01:21:45,079 --> 01:21:47,880
adjustment for him coming over, which is just something that

1765
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,960
happens with these guys. I think you saw the same

1766
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,560
kind of deal from Roki Sasaki as well, and now

1767
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,239
he is. I feel like there's almost no fear now

1768
01:21:55,239 --> 01:21:58,840
that he's succeeding. Not that there isn't, but uh, I

1769
01:21:59,119 --> 01:22:02,199
think you know, you you tend to write off the

1770
01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:05,079
bad starts for these guys coming over, and I think

1771
01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:07,000
we can do that for both these guys. Maybe we'll

1772
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,119
see what am I does. You know, it's only three

1773
01:22:09,119 --> 01:22:11,560
good starts in a row. He could be really bad

1774
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,880
for the next three and then everybody's off the train again.

1775
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,640
So who he's moved to?

1776
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: Like, he's streamable to me? Now, I don't like I would.

1777
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,479
He's at the bottom of the list of those three

1778
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,640
guys that I mentioned for me, but I think he's

1779
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,359
now Like if you were floating out there and it's

1780
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:26,560
like a decent matcher, you know, like the a's at home.

1781
01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: I would take him over everybody below him on this list.

1782
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: Pretty okay. So the guy's below You got McGreevy, who

1783
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,279
is thirty percent on six innings five strikeouts against Cincinnati'szebbie

1784
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:41,439
Matthews went seven innings, two earned runs, four walks, only

1785
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,479
two strikeouts. Against Kansas City, a boy, Gauge jumped six

1786
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,760
and one, three hits, three walks, three strikeouts. Then you

1787
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,439
get down to pretty lower percentage of like Christian Scott

1788
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,359
Ryan Feldner. I think I would actually I'm gonna take

1789
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,479
Jump over him, and I think I would take Matthews.

1790
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,000
I don't know if I would take McGreevy. They're pretty close.

1791
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 3: But I think how I grew Jump is the only

1792
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,159
one that I would consider. The rest of them I

1793
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:06,319
don't consider.

1794
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, how I grouped again Cameron Jones and Ami with him,

1795
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,479
I would more lump Ami with McGreevy, Matthews and Jump,

1796
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,239
And then like that's like a tier of type of

1797
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:18,279
players to me, which to be fair. In a deeper

1798
01:23:18,359 --> 01:23:22,640
twelve team, Jump, Matthews, McGreevy and I are probably closer

1799
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,680
to streamers. Definitely in a fifteen team, well fifteen team

1800
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,640
you actually probably have to keep them, yeah, But in

1801
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,640
a twelve team, those are like the top end of

1802
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,600
like the type of streamer I'm looking at. But if

1803
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,800
you want to hold because you believe in one more

1804
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,000
than the other, that's fine. I like Gauge, Jump, how

1805
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,640
deep he's going into games. And but I'm a little

1806
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,600
bit worried about like Sacramento in the summer and stuff.

1807
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:45,479
Some s he starts from some pitchers. Aaron Nola five

1808
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,800
earned runs four and one third against the White Sox,

1809
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,319
Edward Cabrera three and two thirds eight earned runs against

1810
01:23:52,359 --> 01:23:56,079
San Francisco, and Merril Kelly five inning, seven earned runs

1811
01:23:56,159 --> 01:23:58,960
against Washington. They're all forty nine, fifty six and fifty

1812
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,680
eight percent own. Who is a must hold, must hold?

1813
01:24:03,279 --> 01:24:05,479
Who would you like want to hold on of those three?

1814
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,800
I don't think I want to hold on a Merril Kelly.

1815
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,880
I'll tell you that I can guarantee you Dan.

1816
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Not Edward Rare either. He's already been hurt. So I

1817
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:12,479
guess it's Nola.

1818
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Nola's had a few little signs.

1819
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,600
Maybe it's Nola. Also lower Mitch Keller sixern runs against Atlanta.

1820
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,159
Speaker 3: Joey was on a nice streak. I feel like Keller was.

1821
01:24:21,319 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: And then just yeah, Joey Cantillo seven earned runs against Texas,

1822
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,399
Anthony k got them things lit six innings, Andrew Painter

1823
01:24:30,039 --> 01:24:33,640
sixerned runs against the White Sox, and Jay Casano Witch

1824
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,600
none of those guys are anything I'm caring about or

1825
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,359
holding on to whatever, So it's it's nothing in that world.

1826
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,479
And then in the closer market, blown saves that led

1827
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,960
and or led to losses. Kirby Yates got an elegainst

1828
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,479
the Dodgers on the six, Antonio sends a Tella, got

1829
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,359
a blown save against Milwaukee, Trevor McGill blown saved but

1830
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,920
ended up getting to win. And Jesus Christ, dude, I

1831
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,760
feel like we have seen him three times in the

1832
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:02,079
last like a month. Andrew Munos got an l against Detroit.

1833
01:25:02,319 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 3: It's like every show, dude. I mean, Munio's they got

1834
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,000
a trade for a closer America.

1835
01:25:07,079 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: Well you know, might you know who it might be

1836
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,960
is Jose Ferrera has been if I remember correctly, has

1837
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,079
been absolutely dominant. Yeah, he's got a one five to

1838
01:25:16,079 --> 01:25:19,239
five era. His whip is little up but only a

1839
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:23,840
under five percent walk rate, twenty percent k percentage, two

1840
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,439
percent barrel rate, and he pumps a sinker in ninety seven.

1841
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:31,399
Speaker 3: That's an Munos era is five point four.

1842
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: That's creaty. I think I'm not four. Like I don't

1843
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,199
want Munya to lose his gig or anything like that,

1844
01:25:36,319 --> 01:25:38,800
but I am for like, maybe you give Munos like

1845
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,359
two weeks off to like reset and just put Ferrera

1846
01:25:41,399 --> 01:25:43,000
in that. I think Ferrera would be the one that

1847
01:25:43,159 --> 01:25:44,079
they would throw in there.

1848
01:25:44,399 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Matt Brash is Era. He's only had sixteen outings,

1849
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,760
but there is under one is point five to six

1850
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:50,279
right now?

1851
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:53,159
Speaker 2: Maybe they could piggyback. It's like, yeah, whatever's lefty or

1852
01:25:53,199 --> 01:25:54,760
right cause I think isn't brash orlrighty?

1853
01:25:56,199 --> 01:25:56,399
Speaker 3: Yes?

1854
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: A left? Yeah? Yeah?

1855
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, mix a match. I mean, Ammonnios is not

1856
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,119
long for this job. He's got the red marker next

1857
01:26:03,119 --> 01:26:07,800
to his name is Era is over five. Yeah, he's

1858
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,159
just he's been miserable this year. His strikeout rate is

1859
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,159
still crazy high. It's thirty three point seven. Was walk

1860
01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:15,640
Ray He's eight point seven. So I don't know, Like

1861
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,279
I do still think Andre's Munio's stuff is the best

1862
01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:20,880
out of this group, but he is not putting it together.

1863
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:24,880
And you know, closers are just so finicky. He's probably

1864
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,399
gonna be He's probably not closing games for the Mariners

1865
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:28,119
by the end of the year.

1866
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:34,079
Speaker 2: Some non closer saves Travis Adams on the fifth against Colorado,

1867
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:39,159
ingers Gomez had pitched the night before Tyler Zuber his

1868
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:43,000
fun names here versus Tampa Bay. This is after Fairbanks.

1869
01:26:43,039 --> 01:26:46,479
He had took thirty nine pitches for two outs. Brad

1870
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,479
Lord got one that was a two dinger? Did he

1871
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,199
or Fuenttes? That might be more of the role Iglacier

1872
01:26:52,279 --> 01:26:53,800
to pitch back to back Knights That was a guy

1873
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,600
that was a pseudo starter. Anthony Bender and Dylan Smith also,

1874
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,199
anybody in there mean anything to you?

1875
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 3: The Marlin job I think is up for grabs right

1876
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,399
now because Fairbanks has been fairly terrible since coming back.

1877
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,840
So his era is seven for one ys seven saves

1878
01:27:09,279 --> 01:27:12,000
right now. But Bender is right behind him, so is

1879
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:15,319
I know they like Fauchet his era is three one,

1880
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,079
you know it was who was Zuber here? His He's

1881
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:24,399
only had two appearances so but I think Bender is

1882
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,920
probably going to get that job at some point because

1883
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,439
they're not trading for a closer. But Fairbanks, with his

1884
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,880
seven era has got to get out of that role.

1885
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have a hard time believing

1886
01:27:34,359 --> 01:27:37,159
they would give up Fairbanks. Pretty outspoken guy, kind of

1887
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:38,880
belongs as a closer. But to your point, you can

1888
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,319
only be bad for so long.

1889
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,079
Speaker 3: Devin Williams vra is still five and a half. Here.

1890
01:27:43,279 --> 01:27:45,439
Let me look at the other closers that are bad.

1891
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,159
Let's see who's that's Devin A Ken Miguel is four

1892
01:27:51,359 --> 01:27:54,439
point seven. Avenue Uiba's up over four. They could use

1893
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:59,560
a steady hand as a closer there. Uh, Tony Santillion's

1894
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,079
cra in the sixes. That's why they keep going to

1895
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:06,640
different guys. There any other any other like closer jobs

1896
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,760
that you're worried about, Welsh, I.

1897
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 2: Think it's just a weird time right now. I'm not

1898
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,239
sure what you know. I mean, whatever the hell the

1899
01:28:13,279 --> 01:28:16,479
Reds are doing, it's more like looking for definitiveness. I'm

1900
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,279
not sure like any of the studs. I'm I mean,

1901
01:28:18,319 --> 01:28:20,840
even Fairbanks, I'm kind of defending a little bit. Uh,

1902
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,840
it's more of the uncertainty, you know, that's floating.

1903
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Erg lost that job basically, right is that's great point.

1904
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,359
Speaker 2: We should have talked about that because it's Oh, I

1905
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,119
just dropped playing Alex Lang. Alex Lang is a dude

1906
01:28:34,119 --> 01:28:36,800
who just out of the clouds. Looks like he has

1907
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,359
a stranglehold on that because Estevez is out er seg

1908
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,680
looks like he has kind of dropped that, and they're

1909
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,079
just going to hot hand again. I would drop I mean,

1910
01:28:44,079 --> 01:28:46,560
I don't think that's breaking news. Anybody drop him. I

1911
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,760
would drop erseg for him in a heartbeat because I

1912
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,479
think they're going to just keep rolling him out and you.

1913
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 3: Gotta save the other night. But that was because lang

1914
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,800
It pitched two Knights in a row. I also think,

1915
01:28:55,159 --> 01:28:57,960
you know, Sir Anthony de Mingez, his uh era is

1916
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,000
three nine one. After White Sox keep winning games, if

1917
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,039
he keeps blowing on the Grand Taylor, that's gonna go

1918
01:29:03,039 --> 01:29:05,119
to Grant Taylor or mister outside Higher.

1919
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, well Grant Taylor. Like the only thing was

1920
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,159
they floated to us that, like maybe they would start

1921
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:12,319
to stretch him as a starter. He's been in the

1922
01:29:12,399 --> 01:29:14,680
ninth and he is dominant. I think he's just gonna

1923
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,319
close out games the rest of the year. Yeah, he

1924
01:29:17,359 --> 01:29:19,760
could easily do that. Yeah, all right, there you go.

1925
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