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right now, Trek Scooble having that nanoscope, or the schoobole
scope as it's now called, the first of its kind.
And there's a lot to talk about with this. But
before yeah, it's not very fun. Yeah you have the dingle.
Speaker 3: Scope, dork scope, and there's a lot of things to
talk about about, how he performed, how the villa was.
Speaker 2: But the only real thing that is stuck with me
is the guy who tweeted UH looking at Terrek Scooble
and says, brother looks like he had the Jimmy John surgery.
I gotta tell you, why does Scoobs look a little
fat in that video? Have you seen that?
Speaker 3: And I don't think I have.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the video. Just type it into
UH into Twitter and you can see he does look bigger.
I don't know if it's the low light minor league cameras,
it's the jersey or whatever. Scoobs looks like he had
the nanoscope. Surgery and then just proceeded to eat for
a full month. But that dude saying brother looked like
instead of Tommy John had the Jimmy John surgery. I laughed.
Speaker 3: Did this picture the looks exactly like Goal Rawley?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he looks. What happened to him? Did they
say you want to build on your frame? So this
holds the surgery? He looks a little like what. Look
at the video you can, like you scroll down to
like four or five down you can.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about the one where he is he's
in the minor league outfit? Okay, I'm only seeing him
in the locker room for whatever. And send it to me.
Speaker 2: Terrek Schouble and it is the third uhs schoobl minor
leagues and it's just Terrek Schoobl Terrek School. And then
you'll see like the fourth or fifth videos from Just
Baseball is his minor league outing and he's looking chunky.
Speaker 3: I'm not I see David Chowan here. I put in
just Trek Schoobl. Oh my god, Dan Clark. Sorry, there
you go. Sorry, My algo is not the same as yours. Bruh,
there you go. You know what I see? It looks
like he has a bro on. Looks like he took it.
Looks like he has a bro on from from Seinfeld,
The Man bra the Man's Eer. You don't remember that.
Speaker 2: One, No, I would, I'd never. I don't like Seinfeld.
Speaker 3: I know you don't like Seinfeld, but I you know,
maybe you know. I thought I thought you knew maybe
about pop culture from the nineteen nineties when you were
both live.
Speaker 2: No, I know, no suit for you. And then I
know Michael Richards.
Speaker 3: There's an episode where Jerry Stiller and Kramer we're trying
to invent uh a brazier for men, and they called
it the Man's Ear or the bro They couldn't. They
fought over the name. That was the whole episode. So
it looks like he's wearing one of those in this
that's he just looks chunked.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but regardless of the chunk.
Speaker 3: Looks like he's on the Bogman diet.
Speaker 2: There he's back quick from are you playing it? What
is happening? What is this going on with dude?
Speaker 3: I shut Twitter off and it was playing an ad
in the background.
Speaker 2: You like, can't find Trek's gooble video. You've got ads
going on im like an old.
Speaker 3: Man over here. Now, what are you saying this picture.
Speaker 2: Machine on a val scope? What do you mean the
Google scope?
Speaker 3: Regardless of regardless of how fat he does.
Speaker 2: Look, we're not going to not acknowledge it. And this
is coming from fat people, so like, yeah, we're allowed
to say it. He looks picture But he went five innings,
two hits, six strikeouts. Forty four of his fifty four
pitches he threw for strikes, hit ninety nine. I think
he was sitting like ninety six ninety seven, and he
touched down to ninety five. So between ninety five and
ninety nine through tons of strikes, absolutely dominated these little
baby baseball players. And it you know, he was like
for feed me, fed me, and he looked amazing. And
to everyone's credit, not even to be like like hyperbole
or whatever, but like this kind of might revolutionize like
baseball injuries if you're able to go in with this
thing and it's non invasive and you can have this
type of a return like this legitimately had like him
not returning potential, I mean, and now he's back in
a month.
Speaker 3: There's a reason we call it Tommy John surgery, right
because Tommy John was the first pitcher to get it
and then come back and have a successful career after that.
Speaker 2: But did this replace what? Like do we I don't
think he was supposed to go down for Tommy John
surgery for this or anything like that.
Speaker 3: This is fun, he but but Tommy John was a picture.
That's what I'm saying. Like, so the the surgery being
named after him would be the Schoobl surgery. I don't
think that will be surprising at all if it works.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't care about the name.
I'm just saying, like the revolutionizing of it likely crap.
If we're gonna get guys that could have missed three
months and are going to just miss a month, this
is gonna put somebody.
Speaker 3: Somebody do it to Blake Snell today. Please.
Speaker 2: He already had it. He did, I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's the same one. He had the Schoobl surgery right
after Why isn't it oh after school? Yeah, he had
it after So like I think it was like a
a week where we're calling this the Snell surgery, the
hydrated surgery.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, because Scooble got it done. He was the
first one to have it. And then Blake Snell had it,
and if he has a return as quick, like you know,
I mean there's also the chance that I don't know,
Schooble ate his way out of the injury or something
like that. But like maybe Schooble's just a little bit
of a freak or something like that. But like, after
we get a couple of these, it really pushes things
going forward. So I guess my question is is, like,
do you have any hesitations for the rest of this
year's or any because you're kind of the or your
guy on that front, are you just good to go?
Like whether it's that he does look at a lot
of shape, whether he was quick off of the injury.
Speaker 3: I don't care about him being out of shape. You know,
you work out for two weeks, he's back in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baseball, you could be five foot three or two
hundred and eighty packs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, this is the ultimate thing. Was the last
at bat of the World Series last year came down
to Yamamoto, who is a discipline warrior, and he was
pitching against Alejandro Kirk who looks like my son. So
you know, baseball is a sport for anybody type really,
so I don't care about the shape stuff. I mean,
am I a little more leery of him than I
was coming in? Sure? But if he's pitching and looking
fine through five innings in the high eight, I guess.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying this is like, do you are you
gonna do? Is he go right back to value too? Yes?
You just he's back to like number one or two
overall or something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I probably put him behind a couple of
the very tippy top pitchers, but he goes right into
that tier for sure, just maybe at the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know if there's a whole lot
of like trade for straight away, any of that type
of stuff that flows right Derek Schoople. It's just like
if you had him and he returns, I think this
is like a big bonus. This is a big plus.
But it's it's huge, and he went to high A
and I think there's probably gonna be one or two
more and then he's going to be back, and he's
gonna be back probably towards the end of the month.
And that is a crazy thought.
Speaker 3: You still put him behind miz right obviously right now
when you put him behind Schlitler Otani.
Speaker 2: I think it's just about a teer. To me, I
think it's the tier of like schemes, who did you say,
miss right under that tier.
Speaker 3: To me, it's like Machez's like yeah, Tawny, miz Schmes,
maybe Sanchez and him, Like that's the tier.
Speaker 2: However you want to like bundle it.
Speaker 3: Up or whatever might put you in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I put like the next tier
in my mind might be like, yeah, I'm Amoto Cam Schlitler,
and honestly like yeah, Sale would definitely go in there
maybe and then maybe the next here after that is
where like burns and McLean and stuff start to come
into play. But it is, it is a crazy, crazy return.
I'm not really sure there's much to talk about on
any other side of just say enjoy it, be glad
that you're having him back. Do need to talk about this?
Manny Machado. We I feel like we get this once
a year where we have a dude that decides to
just rail on analytics or advanced stats or however you
want to put it. I usually feel like it's like
a it's a picture, and sometimes it might be like
a bullpen guy or something like that. Maybe I'm off
on that. But there's always a guy.
Speaker 3: It's like, I think you talk to at least one
guy coming up that's like, I just don't pay attention
to analytics.
Speaker 2: I've talked to multiple Taylor Tremill was not by the way,
watch the detectory of the players that did not care
about right Taylor Tremiell. Alec Bohm was another one of
those guys. He he was a little bit more like
he would look at He told me, I bet things
have changed now, but he said he would look at
stuff in c off season and he wouldn't like he
wouldn't go in season. He wouldn't bother himself in season
on trying to get in his head.
Speaker 3: I can understand a little bit of that from just
like a sports psychology point of like, look, i don't
want to look at it because then I'm going to
dwell on it and I'm going to try to adjust
in the middle of everything.
Speaker 2: So yeah, to be fair, but here was many machadas.
This is our you know, our twenty sixteen version, and
then we can kind of comment on it. This was
like Marty I think this is Marty Caswell via his
Twitter or whatever. But here is the video and here's
him talking for like less than a minute or a minute.
I just wish you coul get the analytics out the way.
Speaker 4: I think there's too many stats out there, too many,
too many stats, way too many numbers. I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Half of the stuff that goes up there.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 4: I look at the ward sometimes and I'm like, man,
I even I ask some of the guys like what is
WCCVBB whatever it is? Like, like what are these names
that are being created? You know?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just crazy to even keep up.
Speaker 4: With weight it expected on base percentage?
Speaker 2: Is is that what it is? What is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It's crazy, dude. I mean the pitching stuff like fit
or something like that.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I love this part is my favorite part because this
is where he's like like he's talking to a bunch
of like older dudes and he's kind of like running
a circle where he wants to like get everybody to
like agree with him and stuff. He's like, yeah, you know,
what is this? And then this guy like want this
guy like perfectly is going to explain it clear, and
then he's just like, yeah, I don't know. So I hears.
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, like what is that? That's taking out the
defense to say this guy, all right, so so so
why would you have that stat?
Speaker 2: Isn't baseball guy? Really is? I love that? And then
his face he's like, but it takes a team to
win a bog game, and not just one person.
Speaker 4: One person could be one person could be that guy, right,
So one person could carry a team. But this is
a team sport. You don't win a championship. I just
won't player. It takes a hole.
Speaker 2: Oh but that's like, that's where things get so stupid
to me, because it's like, well, you're looking at the
wrong thing. They're not trying to take that stat and
diminish the team. You are trying to individually look at
players in Now I'm convinced.
Speaker 3: Now I'm convinced. I think we should get rid of
all the stats. Just get rid of all the stats.
All I want are wins and losses.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: It's the only sat I care about it anymore. So, Yeah,
convince me.
Speaker 2: It's such an in baseball game type of thing where
it's like you can play, like I said on leading off,
I kind of told you off here. On one side,
I kind of don't understand when baseball players get into
this argument because like you will have guys that stink,
and then like people will be critical and you'll have
teammates and coaches that like defend them. But like do
you have many times like advanced analytics or advanced stats
can tell the story of a guy sucking ass, but
they actually can turn it around and that is works
in their favor. There are times where it'll be like
there's a guy who'd been good in the past and
he really sucks and everything says it's bad and everyone's
like this is bad. And then a player they want
to defend it, but it goes in the other directions.
Speaker 3: It's the comparison I'll make here while she is like
if a carpenter went, you know what, there's too many tools.
I don't need all these tools. What does this tool do?
I've never used this one ever, so why should we
have all these tools? Well, you don't use it, but
it was made with a purpose for a reason. Somebody
else may use it and need it. Like you know
that it's just a tool in your toolbox to find
out what is the issue or what is going absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Actually, another step is like the thing is is like
he's looking at some things as tools, but some of
those things are just like instructions, and it's like, how
you know what I'm saying, Like that tool, the tool
is actually an instruction to tell you the story of
how to use another tool or how to build this
certain thing. It doesn't mean it's the most critical and
can you do without it, yes, but it's actually just
like giving it's a blueprint sometimes and sometimes nothing is
perfect with it. But I think these guys just get
inundated because they start to see all this stuff up
there and they have people talking about it, and then
they feel they're being judged off of it. And it's
just like in my world that there's the counting stats
of the like strikeouts and wins and homers and hits,
and then maybe you know, maybe you look at whip
and stuff like that, and then there's, like probably most organizations,
there's a few things that people care about, but there's
all these other these advanced analytics and stuff that are
just helping tell a story, to maybe understand a player
who is not the player, to try to work with
them on certain things, whether it is implementing BA I mean, dude,
keep Bryant, I mean not keep Brian Hayes is a
good example. But key Brian Hayes is like one of
the best defensive third basement out there. He's one of
the worst hitters of all time. He's so bad. He
is out here in Arizona right now working with drive Line,
like they just optioned him in season to go work
a drive and drive Line is gonna do is They're
gonna do complete analysis, which all these guys do. They're
gonna have analysis, and then that analysis is gonna tell
us a lot about that speed and angle, and it's
gonna talk probably about like what we get with the
bat tracking stuff, ideal angle and dah dah dah da. Well,
guess what. Take all that stuff that you probably have
some familiar familiarity with, and then you just have some
stats out there that are just these averages. You know,
like he said, you're taking out the defensive side for
pitching to try to talk about a picture's like true valued.
All right, It's it's such a eye rolling thing. At
this point, you're not being judged on your whoa like
you're not. Everything is about your wOBA and whatever, and
you don't have to pay attention to that expect Those
are Also those are like accumulative, like uh, summations of things.
It's like they take this, this and this to give
you a number to kind of look at, and it's
like that is a stat, but it's like your ultimate
judging isn't necessarily off of that. There's so many things
that are these accumulative stats that these guys get so
hung up on.
Speaker 3: He did not articulate this this particular gripe very well.
Speaker 2: But that's but that's part of the thing, though, Box.
It's like he's not there to articulate. That's his point.
Like he's just not into that. He's just like, Hey,
I'm a baseball player, Like I do the thing, I
try to get my angles better or whatever. I'm a
baseball player. I don't need all these other stats. And
it's like, great, okay, then don't use them. Yeah, exactly what.
NFL just spend hundreds of millions of dollars on next
Gen because people want more analytics and they want to
understand and people want to have an understanding and have
predictive stats and stuff like that. And it's just like
that's fine. I actually don't have a problem of players
are weird with it, but I just don't you just
come off as like and I'm a many Matado defender too,
you just come off as like lame when you're just
bitching and complaining about stats that they.
Speaker 3: Don't terribly right, like six maybe you should be. That's
a big part of it. It's like, yeah, we know what,
you don't like stats today because your stats are miserable.
Speaker 2: Well you know what, though, funny enough, this would have
been a better argument as well. It actually would have
been better a couple of weeks ago. But those stats
that he hates. His expected batting average is a good
positive sign for him. It's forty points I'm sorry, sixty
points higher than what he's done before. He's pulling the
ball in the air more than that he's done in
like five years. Like, those are a couple pieces that
are telling like some good stories in his favor. But
then there's some pretty basic stuff where it's like, well, hey,
you're not bearing the ball, you're not getting the ball
in the air, your hard hit rate is down over
ten percent, you're striking out more than you've ever done
in your career. And then there we can go on
and on about you know, your ground ball rate is up,
it's actually the second worst, since it's worse since his
rookie year. Like, there are some stuff in here that
it's like, those are just informative pieces of understand who
you are. Not all of those are going to help
baseball players, but some of them help people like us
or whoever talk about said players and have an underlook
at it.
Speaker 3: Launch angle, the launch angle is the biggest difference that
he hap.
Speaker 2: It's on like four degrees I think a year over
years something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every other year his savant page has been red
red and this year the launch angle is down and
it's you know, I'm blue.
Speaker 2: Everthing knew about sports for the last twenty years from
when you and I were probably teenagers to now is
people have a thirst to have better understanding of the
sport that they watch. They want it with football now,
I mean maybe basketball kind of lack some of that,
but it's the thing with baseball people having a deeper
understanding of something that is very complicated that they can
start to like break down and maybe have an opinion on.
Because everybody that listens to podcast is like, well, those
you know, dip shows can do it, I can do it.
Like everybody feels like that with sports, like they want
to have an understanding, to have a conversation.
Speaker 3: Piece should be uh, you know, Manny Machado is just
it's just should be Clint Eastwood out here telling us
what we're all doing wrong from Trouble with the curve.
He's almost blind, but he can hear the curve of
the ball.
Speaker 2: So I've watched that.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's like it's like a big middle finger
to Moneyball. Yeah, is justin Timberlake, Yes, and Amy Adams
and and Clin Eastwood, like you know, it's ah, the
story is nice, but the stat it's almost honestly, it's
like a I can tell because I can hear, and
then there's uh, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like an old school like scout scout.
Speaker 3: That that's well, it's exactly what Clint Eastwood is in
the movie. So it's, uh, it's pretty funny. But yeah,
let's just get a bunch of old blind men that
used to watch baseball a lot, and I have them
tell us where we're wrong.
Speaker 2: It seems like that's what we do. It's still happening.
Uh yeah, So good on Manny Machado for speaking up
when he'sitting one six.
Speaker 3: And tend to one more non fantasy baseball thing. I
just want to ask you if you've seen this at all,
is mister Bee's gonna buy the Angels? Is that a
thing for real?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw, I did see that. I don't think
it's real. I've seen nothing else. The tweet from a
guy that was like, here's some interesting things that are
floating around that mister Beast is going to buy the Angels,
Like I don't know every Yeah, I keep seeing all
these tweets about how mister Bee says he owned he
has no money, you know, like, oh, is that right.
He's one of those guys. This is like what the
billionaires do it. So you don't own anything, you just
have all these assets, or you do, but you have
no money and it's all in assets, and then you
have loans off of your assets, so it's like you
don't have income in that that type of way. But
that's one of those guys too, Like I've seen him
be like, oh, you know, you probably have more money
in your account, and it's like, don't patronize us. You
have access to more money than anybody in the world.
Don't patronize any of us with your stupid bank account
bull crap or whatever. But I don't think he knows
that much about sports. Probably wouldn't be the thing, and
it just.
Speaker 3: Wants to be Angel maxing.
Speaker 2: Is that I would I would assume that is probably
a troll, uh in some capacity, But I don't know.
I've seen it.
Speaker 3: It just came across my feet and I was like,
I don't know this. It does not feel real to me,
So yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is, but I have seen multiple
tweets about people doing it.
Speaker 3: Somebody did an AI cover of one of his videos,
and it's like fixing the Angels impossible.
Speaker 2: But I think also, like everybody hates uh Urt Moreno right,
oh yeah yeah, everybody, so like wouldn't maybe.
Speaker 3: Uh maybe mister Beast is a disingenuous d bag, but
he'd still probably be a better owner than Arty Moreno
so Artie Marino.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, all right. Other news that's floating out there,
Bobby Witt left Sunday with some knee soreness. Not good
for your you know, I didn't look today. Is he
the MVP lead right now? I think games haven't started.
He probably should be because I know it was because
the ambiguity with Judge right now is really bad. He
by the way, Aaron Judge heading to the il, he's
got this rib injury that they're saying four to six weeks.
Speaker 3: I need scooble surgery.
Speaker 2: The last show we were doing, we were kind of
talking about like where this could go, and like it's
kind of the worst case scenario. Yeah, dude, Bobby witt
Is they are plus money, but he is the current
lead at plus one forty five. Jordan Alvarez is plus
one fifty. Dude, Nick Kurtz is three to I'm sorry,
Ben Rice is three to one, and then it goes
up into like the ten and twenties and all the
crazy stuff. Well, you know what I wonder though, Aaron
Judge is ten thousand plus ten thousand. What if he
had like came back quicker than ever and could do that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he came back in like a month, and
you know a lot of that was the All Star
break or whatever, and then just comes back and crushes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking, Like, what if
he came back, what if he beat that timeline and
came back July first, and then he just has like
another home run season is the Is Wit doing enough? Well,
WIT's got some knee soreness, it doesn't look like it's
like really bad, if I know correctly. I think it's
just like they wanted him to take a couple of
days off. But we were also kind of dismissive about
Aaron Judge last time we were doing this show, and
then Aaron Judge had that big time off. So I
don't know if you have any other like massive worries
or anything.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, what do you think about Spencer Jones
replacing him? The lineup is like, is Spencer Jones? How
many options does he have? Like is that only two?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's got like like free more. There's no
there's no issue on that front or anything like that.
I don't know. He just hasn't looked. Yeah, yeah, I
think I did see somebody there. I don't remember where
the quote was, but it was like someone told Spencer Jones,
you know, you don't try to replace Judge or be Judge,
like just be the best version of yourself some motivational stuff,
and it's like that's cool and all, but I just
don't know what he's gonna look like. I've always been
just immensely obset with the the raw skills of him,
but like he looks more like Kyle Blanks right now
than he does every you know, just big six foot
seventy hit.
Speaker 3: Two fifty in his first stint there.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but expect a matting average of one eight.
He struck out thirty forty.
Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, yeah, so like three walks in thirteen
strikeouts in thirty one plate appearances.
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that I think like he
could catch fire for a little bit and he can
put up some monster stats and then it's just going
to like fall apart. I still have this like little
glimmer of hope in a couple of years he's going
to figure it out. But it's going to be the
same like oneo Cruz route, you know what I mean,
Like it's going to be a full season where.
Speaker 3: Kyle Blank's comparison is not very nice.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, I just used to love
I was just thinking about him. I used to love
Kyle Blanks back in the day.
Speaker 3: Well, we saw him, didn't We first see him in
Maryvale and I was like, who is this gig gigantor
over here? Tiny thinks so I think it was when
he was a padre. I saw him the first time.
You're all right, you know what, But it was the
Brewers are playing the Podres. I remember. I was with
my buddy Joe, That's what it was, and I was like,
who is this offensive lineman playing for the Podres here?
Speaker 2: Well, we saw him on like an opening day at
Chase Still. I remember that, or maybe it was an
opening day, but it was.
Speaker 3: I think it was because Adrian Gizalez had a homer
late in that came.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He made his debut in two thousand and nineteen,
two thousand and nine where he hit two point fifty
with ten homers. Man and then it just like did
he have eight hundred and twenty seven career bat bats,
hit two forty one and had thirty three homers? Actually
not the worst. How how tall is it was? He
six eight six seven? They say six six, He was
like six seven. Okay, went to you have a pie
out here in Prescott out the in Arizona. But yeah,
he would have a whole bunch of nothing. And he
wore number eighty eight, which stood out to me because
I think you did not like that.
Speaker 3: I had a big thing about numbers way back in
the day, and I just like, is that worse or
is it Kaker wearing ninety nine worse? Which one? I
mean Judge wears ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really care about that with baseball players anymore.
Remember my Taiwan Walker when I tweeted him and he
was like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like what was he wearing, like ninety or something?
Speaker 2: I know, like ninety nine? Are you wearing ninety nine?
And he was like, I don't know. I'm like, okay,
fair enough. You know what would bug me? This is
I think this is the only thing that would bug me. Now.
Quarterback wearing like twenty wasn't there wasn't there an DSU
quarterback like h Kron or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah too.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of quarterbacks that.
Speaker 2: Have done that quarter oh really recently.
Speaker 3: I don't know if recently, but I remember, you know
a lot of quarterbacks wearing twenty two and highlight videos
or didn't Flutie wear a twenties number in college?
Speaker 2: I think he did? God, who was this?
Speaker 3: He was twenty two?
Speaker 2: I want to see his name because he was like,
I just this is probably how I'm doing. This is
not good. He let me look here. It wasn't Sam Keller.
It was like, oh god, Rudy Carpenter looking at all these.
Speaker 3: Rudy Yeah, Flutie War twenty two, that's what I was
thinking of.
Speaker 2: I wish I could find it was like Jeff Koon
or something like that. Is that some familiar?
Speaker 3: I mean there have been so many Acqus, so many
college quarterbacks, dude, and now they're moving schools. I can't
keep up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, either way, a quarterback wearing like number twenty two,
like that grinds my gears. No, definitely grind that.
Speaker 3: Will turn you into old man arguing at clouds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about the only one though. That's about it
at this point.
Speaker 3: So I was I was watching. I was at a
movie theater and saw a Mayhem commercial and a Coca
Cola commercial, and I wanted to turn into old man
yells a cloud. Really, because I paid for the movie,
I don't want to watch previews and it ads between
the previews.
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, but they do warn you. Now.
They have like the warning where it says like your
movie will start fifteen to two twenty minutes later than
the tame see that. Yeah, it's on all the online
stuff now, Like on AMC's website, it is that's whort
because I have I'm an AMC Stubbs and I.
Speaker 3: Bet you it's for Stubbs members only then because I'm
not paying that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they give the warnings now, I will say.
One of the lam yeah you know you should. One
of the lamer things on the planet is them not
just doing like nine different previews, but also doing like
seven commercials before you start. It's just like, give me
a break, give me a break here. You guys are
just charging us plenty now that you're making your money up.
I think, I actually think like the movies had like
the best like weekend or month in month of May
that they've had in like six or seven years with
the hand signal.
Speaker 3: I wonder why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't because of Grogu and Mandalorian can tell
you that.
Speaker 3: Well, further you get away from COVID, the more people
are going out, so movies too.
Speaker 2: Back rooms Obsession. I want to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my buddy Will saw Obsession. He loved it.
Speaker 2: Pretty good, all right, movies. Vargas and Munsey ran into
each other in the face. It was, well, what is
this you actually throw I don't understand this, then, Miz
hit Freeman the head. Are you just talking about all
the Dodgers getting hurt?
Speaker 3: I'm just well, not the Dodgers, it was the Rockies.
But I'm just talking about the injury, the freaky, weird
injury stuff that happened this weekend, like uh, you know
the uh Mis hitting the kid in the head, Freeman.
I think it was in the head. That was crazy
to see, and he looked like miss looked like he
was about to puke after it. I don't know if
you saw that, And.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see that, So that's why I didn't
know what this was.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so he hit him in the head at
ninety eight and he was all I think it was
Tyler Freeman. It's all wobbly. When they were walking him off, obviously.
Speaker 2: I saw the Eldamar Vargus and Max Mounsey just absolutely
implode into each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Ryan Nelson's fault. You got to cover first, man,
you know, I think somebody who's mentioned in the grooming
room like he's got to get over And I said, yeah,
I think he missed the signal. I don't know if
the um signal that the ball was fair, and he's like,
we still got to get over I'm like, I'm not
man an excuse for him. I think that's I'm just
providing a reason you still have to get over there.
Speaker 2: But also maybe in with that might have had something
to do with I haven't I got to pay attention.
But Lou James Grover Gino Geno Grover with the Diamondbacks
was called up. They sent down Jose Fernandez, who was
like the dude, and Lou James is probably a better
first baseman than any of these guys.
Speaker 3: Dude, he has been fielding amazing over at first already.
It's been fun to watch.
Speaker 2: I just wonder because I don't know if you saw
after the Eldamaro Vargus saying Lavello kind of went out
and kind of like he actually kind of slammed Vargas
because he was like, you know, if we had a
first basement like a Freddie Freeman, Freddy would have known
to do this and get out of the way and
whatever slide, yes slide or whatever it was, and it
was a bad situation.
Speaker 3: If you're giving up, I don't care who if I'm
if I'm me and I'm running at Eldemaro Vargas, I'm
not getting down. I outweigh him by about sixty pounds.
Same thing with Muncie, right, I'm not getting down. You're
the smaller guy. You get done. If I'm running at you, Welsh,
I'm sliding. You areier than me. But if if ill
tomorrow Vargus is running towards me, I'm not. You're going down,
not me.
Speaker 2: And I think that could have had something to do
with I mean, Lou James was absolutely destroying the Triple A.
He's just so funny. I keep thinking bad.
Speaker 3: Watch him get drafted. Yeah, you watch him get drafted.
I thought to care about it, but me, Troy, I
saw both those guys get drafted and they were back.
Speaker 2: To back in the lineup. I just keep thinking back,
I was with this spring and my I was with
my buddy, and my buddy, like James is just kind
of like bobbing around. It was. It was actually a
really like weird day. We went to one of the
camps and it was slow, and he just asked He's
like He's like he's because he also had the nickname Gino,
and I don't know if he said Gino or Lou
James and he's like, how you doing it? And he
goes honestly not good, and it was like he was
having a really bad start to camp and whatever that
day was bad and he was just super honest about it.
And then it's like, now you see, dude is in
like three sixty and triple A and he's up in
the majors playing first base. So I thought that was cool.
And I don't know if you on similar Diamondback news, Max
Kepler signed with the Diamondbacks and having that finishing serving
a eighty game PD suspension, and I happened before we
start this see Prasinski and foul Territory just going on
this whole tirade about how these guys should they have
to sign and then serve their eighty games. And I
was just like, I don't know, who care, Like, I
gotta be honest with you. If that was the case,
like there may I think no, no, no, but I
think it would be like this. These guys are bitching
about it, but if you had to like sign and
wait eighty games and guess what he'd have been signed,
Someone would have signed him. Let him serve the eighty games.
They're not paying him while he's doing it, But they
didn't have to sign him because he can serve it
in free agency. So I feel like these guys are
just barking up a dumb ass tree that it's like
the teams are using what they have at their disposal.
They don't have to sign this guy while he's serving it.
If they did and it was relative to the team
signing them, I will bet you one would have probably
signed him before week one.
Speaker 3: So he was he saying that you should have to
sign him and you have to be missing a player
from your twenty five man roster, but you don't. I
don't even know that that's not the rule though for
the teams.
Speaker 2: No, no, all he no, he's saying. What he was
complaining is a guy shouldn't be able to be sitting
at home in season serving his suspension. Once he signs
the team, he should then serve the eighty games. No,
that's stupid, and that's fine. Actually if they did that,
but guess what pick one if the guy, if the
guy can serve it while he's a free agent, then
no one's going to pick him up till it's close.
If he has to sign guess what he just signed
you guys are making an argument that doesn't make any
sense just to be like, you know these guys who
take Yeah, I totally agrees PD probably should never be
able to play in baseball again, but they Diamondbacks signed him,
and I guess they want to know totally with the
die vACC need another left handed bat, that's what they're
dying for. They need like some power bat that's gonna
you know, I guess DH for them probably not gonna
the outfield, but he's signing. He's eligible to come off
June twenty fifth. I don't know, because I don't think
he can. Like maybe honest with you, I think I
saw Andrew south Rank with the Diamondbacks last year when
he was on his suspension, So I don't know if
he can be at the facility. I know he can't
play in games, but like.
Speaker 3: Can do anything until outside of sign until I got.
Speaker 2: To tell you, I think there's some I'm pretty sure
salf Frank was there, and I'm pretty sure Christian Robinson
when he was under his work order visa issue going
on and wasn't allowed to be in games, he was
still working at the facility. So like, I don't know,
I'm gonna go to them Beck's facility in the next
week or two and see if he's like looming around.
Worst case is he starts June twenty fifth, he starts
working up. I gotta be honest with you, he actually
might be relatively fantasy value valuable if he's gonna jump
right into the middle of the lineup and service in
every day DH or he might just be a whole
bunch of nothing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, because Lordes isn't gonna be out forever, so yeah.
Speaker 2: But then Tommy Troy's gonna go away once. I mean
that is a problem. Like Lords isn't like the best
maybe outfield option, but maybe Kepler, you know, been sitting
on his ass taking lots of PD so allegedly so
probably good in the outfield. That's when you're gonna start
losing guys like, you know, Tommy Troy and I don't know,
I don't know. Maybe Kepler cold place some first or
something like that, and that'll get Lou James going out.
Other news, l Day La Cruz is gonna have an MRI,
but that has been moved to June twelfth. He is
still expected to miss two to four weeks.
Speaker 3: But this is supposed to be good news because it's
I think his original MRI wasn't scheduled for like two
more weeks, and that he's feeling so good, they're like,
all right, we'll give you an MRI.
Speaker 2: Ar So yeah, Garret widlock I sorted rehab assignment with
Triple A on Saturday, and they're his expectations. He's gonna
be back with the team really soon. Here might be
uh might end up being like a trade candidate as well.
Francisco Lindoor expected. We're getting a note expected to come
back at some point in Midge that that can't be June.
That's got to be July because he hasn't even returned
to it says mid June. But mid june's in a
week and he hasn't even done anything, So I'm going
to assume that's got to be more like July. Hunter
Brown is going to be making another rehab sort of
Triple A and then should be back, which is bel beautiful, beauty.
Miss Brandon lau fouled a ball off of his knee.
It looked scary, didn't This was on Saturday, didn't play Sunday,
but X rays were negative and he is not expected
to miss a lot of time, so that's very good.
Brandon Brian beosen down to Triple A. Very funny after
he in Spanish, kind.
Speaker 3: Of he was like runs in Spanish.
Speaker 2: He got blown up, and then they asked him about
the starter bullpen thing, and then his interpreter was kind
of like, I'm kind of tired of hearing about this.
But then multiple people I know that that dissected what
he said, was like, it's not exactly what he said
that he might have been a little bit more aggressive,
but he's done in Triple A. And then Royce Lewis
was recalled after destroying Triple A and now he's playing
some first base. He played first base on Sunday, so
that's kind of.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this Francisco Lindor thing and he started running.
Uh he saw a running progression program May twenty fifth,
so it is June might not be.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be. He's not gonna be back till July.
Speaker 3: Like he hasn't even hit his say run a world
right here says late June. And I'm looking I'm pretty
sure I saw this on the score.
Speaker 2: Oh late Joe, Well this said mid June, like.
Speaker 3: I know I'm trying to find the article. I'm pretty
sure I saw this on the Score this weekend. I
might be wrong, though, I'm trying to find it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think the realistic timeline is
very late June to early July. That's fine that he's running.
He hasn't even begun simulated game stuff. He's got to
get into rehab games. That's going to take a week.
Maybe things will go super quick, but he's missed significant
time where he can't just come back into games. So
I would assume somewhere between late June or right July.
Speaker 3: Lind Or expected to return from capstrain in mid June
from the score was from three days ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if that happens, that's sick. I'll totally
eat it. But I'm gonna say July, because like he
ain't doing nothing. I want him back. I got him
on a fantasy team. He's just sitting on my eye out.
Speaker 3: It has like if he's gonna come back in two
weeks or a week, then where the updates? Because this
last this is this rotal Wire update is the last
update I see from May twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I think it's it's a nothing burger,
like you got it one season a game then I
think you're a week away. So like, once I hear
he's in a game, then I'm gonna be comfortable with it.
Some other injury stuff guys coming back. Connor Griffin's going
to be having there saying a quote more relaxed timeline.
He's gonna be out longer than the ten days. I
believe they're talking around the like twentieth of June or
something like that. You asked about Blake Snell. You started
playing catch on Friday. He's gonna be out until after
the All Star Game, which doesn't exactly a ligne with
the whole schoobol scope stuff. But you know, maybe he's
not He's not built. Jimmy John Tough. I guess Nikki
Momniac started hitting off of a tea on Friday. He's
gonna need a rehab assignment before he returns. Can they
Jansen through a bullpen before Friday's game? Hardy Plank has
been shut down? What a waste?
Speaker 3: I was so big onlo this year too, Yeah, disaster.
Speaker 2: Alhander Kirk should be back on Friday. Your son with him?
Speaker 3: Uh By.
Speaker 2: Ryan Helsley threw a VP on Monday, so he's inching closer.
That'll be a closer coming back. And then a couple
other injuries. Ty On left the second inning on Sunday
with a hamstring injury. Not good. DL Hall I L
with a peck strain, doesn't matter, Austin Wells, I L migraines,
doesn't really matter. JP Crawford he was hit on the
hand and it has a hand bruise and he's going
to the I L that one. It's pretty nasty. Did
you also see, just as an aside, what an absolute
dickhead Framber Valdes is that. Josh Naylor said, Uh, he
knows it was Framber because when JP Crawford got hit,
Framber was in the done laughing, pointing and laughing that
they know Framber had him. Like y'all spend your time
hating on guys like Manny like I was giving craft
to Manny Machado. I think everybody spending their time hating
on that, well.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a single person that likes Framber
Valdez or Tommy Fam. Tommy Fam had another incident this
weekend in Triple A, which is hilarious. I saw on
Reddit but but uh, you know, uh, the the Framber Valdez.
I don't think there's a single person that likes Ramberveltez.
I've never met, like even astros fans, the Astro's fans
that I never really liked him.
Speaker 2: So I remember, like Joe's done the whole like, oh
might by on Framberg. I guess that's not like an
identifier of maybe.
Speaker 3: I mean fantasy whatever. He had a good start his
last start, but.
Speaker 2: I think he's mid and he sucks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a horrible teammate and person. So yeah,
I mean, I mean, I don't know necessarily as a
person he is, but like, yeah, you do he is? Yeah,
you do you see what he does? Yeah, I think
he's better not in in front of a camera. I
bet he's worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm not gonna necessarily say
that's like that makes you like.
Speaker 3: A horrible It's not a one for one person. You
just suck as a person, like you suck.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's hilarious for people to get hit
and stuff like that and you're that whole policing a
baseball like those people suck?
Speaker 3: Just watch Goldie hit a mom go Reministe. I just
watched the was it the base bat boys? Baseball boys
do a Goldie? Do you remember what the lineup was?
Speaker 2: Video? It's funny. I was at the Pirates game I
went to with one of my friends. Uh, they were
there interviewing some of the Pirates guys and I've seen
those videos. Ok, they did the Goldie? Do you remember
your debut lineup?
Speaker 3: And it was good doing Gonzo game seven?
Speaker 2: H Oh, that's a good one. So that's a good one.
Goldie was pretty good though he got it. It was
a throwback too because Kelly Johnson was on that team
and Jau Young and.
Speaker 3: What year was that? Two thy twelve?
Speaker 2: Uh God, I was gonna say, no, Bogs, what are
you talking about? But that is fourteen years ago, so
that's possible. It could have been. That's well.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I watched him live was
the first game at Salt Riverfield because I bought the
season tickets for that and it was it was twenty eleven,
by the way, and that it was twenty eleven? Was
the yd that that open not twenty twelve? I was mistaken,
but he he hit a homer to tie the game
after Charlie Blackman had hit a homer to go ahead
by a run to the t Bags first Rockies for
the first game, and they were both very young. I
think it was Charlie Blackman before the Beard.
Speaker 2: Now Blackman's retired, he's coaching with the Rockies, and Goldie
will move on to obscurity next year and we'll, you know,
it'll be a couple of years before the Diamonbacks can
convince him to be some you know, part of the
organization or whatever, which he probably doesn't want to be.
All Right, that's a lot of a lot of stuff
in there. Let's take a break. When we come back,
we're going to be looking at the last seven day leaders,
both hitting and pitching. See some guys that are highlighted out.
Maybe there's some conversation pieces around it. Let's break down
what baseball was this past week right here in this league.
It's in this league.
Speaker 3: What plants craze.
Speaker 4: It's got electrolytes.
Speaker 2: What are electrolytes?
Speaker 1: Do you even know?
Speaker 3: It's what they used to.
Speaker 2: Make in this league. I'm the smartest guy in the
world who like q Test.
Speaker 3: She took him prison junior.
Speaker 2: All right, last seven days, you'll start with batting average.
You're batting average leader random Marsh again, I think he
was might have done it last week, or he's been
on this before at the tippy top Shoyotani at four
eighty yourn for seventy six, Jung Huli and then he
had a little PCA in Yandi up in that business.
Let's go take a stop at the Brandon Marsh here,
because I definitelye thirty eight. That's what his current batting
average is, three.
Speaker 3: Thirty eight with eight homers, five swipes, thirty three runs
and thirty RBI.
Speaker 2: When we talked about him too, it was like, this
is a guy I feel like we pseudo wanted to
pay attention to the batting average was sticking. What is
weird or maybe not weird. It's just like future regression
type of things. When you look at the profile of
who he is, there's not a lot different like Barel,
about the same Laune angles, the same hard hits, the
same strikeouts are down slightly that Lngengle sweet spot. So
like his ability to get the ball in the air,
maybe he's like pull it slightly.
Speaker 3: Mapp is crazy high. It's four to ten. Now he
has a high batpip in his career. His career backpip
is three seventy six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had an over three point fifty babip.
Speaker 3: Jesus, I don't think I realized he hit two eighty last.
Speaker 2: Year fife of his last eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just there's he's making some more impact this year.
Speaker 3: He's at eight. Homer's already at eleven last year. Sixteen
in his career is his career high. And this is
through sixty games. So his expected adding average is three
or four. It supports it very high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, zone contacts actually down slightly according to the Baseball Savant,
but it looks like the decision making a little bit better.
I want to look at his swinger real quick in
bat tracking to see if there's anything that's happened there.
Bath speed is about the same. I'm always interested in
that ideal.
Speaker 3: Swing is just his swing percentage is crazy high. It's
fifty two point two percent. His career is forty five percent.
Speaker 2: So he's just swinging a lot more. He's making contact
he's made.
Speaker 3: I guess MLB average is forty five percent. That's not
his career but uh, but yeah, he went from forty
six point seven last year to fifty two point two.
This is the only year he's been over fifty, you know,
swinging over fifty percent at pitches.
Speaker 2: So yeah, really interesting. I mean it there's a little
bit to say because there's nothing really to speak of.
It's probably like a very regression any type of person.
That's and I would say, like you have to look
at it that his expected batting average says he's going
to be thirty points down, but he's still a three
h four. But it's this service it's like fifth outfielder,
serviceable stuff that he keeps putting down here. Yeah, I'm
not I'm not hating another guy. We can just do
this for a second, just to get him out of
the way. But he's had a good week because he
comes up in a few of these is Pete Armstrong,
Pete Crow hit for forty. He's also going to show
up in kind of the leaders for home runs. And
he can always be kind of dicey. You know, Pikro
had the incredible first half and then you know, things
kind of wander. He hit two thirty three in May,
I mean, what was his April two thirty seven? In April,
he's hitting four forty June. He's got a hit in
every single game as we record this in June, and
is this right? Yeah, he's got four homers this month
in six games, so you and as well as stolen bases.
So you're getting stolen bases, you're getting power. His batting
average is up to two fifty eight, he's got eleven
homers and fourteen stolen bases. So this is that thing again, dude,
where it's like, I think we crapped on him so
much because he was so good in the first and
so bad in the second.
Speaker 3: Then out slow this year too.
Speaker 2: What if he's yeah, he did, You're right, he did.
Start he's just streaky. What if he's just kind of median?
Speaker 3: What if the fourth I don't think he's even median, dude.
I think he's young and streaky. I think, honestly think
that's what it is. I think that's what we're going
to see in the beginning of his career. Now that
I think the big part for him is going to
be trying to pull himself out of it, right, is
to uh contribute consistently instead of being so unbelievably streaky.
But we've seen plenty of guys, I mean how long
has Marcus Simon been in the bigs and he's lived
his entire career like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I was just wondering, like what if
like some of those massive streaks became just like he
gets too eighty, then he hits two forty, he hits
two eighty, two forty, Like right now it's the opposite.
He's hitting two thirty, and then he's hitting four hundred. Right,
but if things could even out, like should we give
it more credit? If he annually is a two fifty
thirty thirty guy, he should be worth a lot more
and we can just like lower some of our expectations.
Profile looks, you know, it looks relatively similar across the board.
The hard hit is up, he's kind of back to
pulling the living crap out of the ball. Maybe one
positive is he's performing really well against fastballs, which he
struggled last year. The expected average is a bit lower,
so him might come back down to earth which could
look similar to last year. But overall, like he looks
a little bit more averaged out amongst pitches, so he's
not like getting absolutely you know, annihilated across the board. Though,
now I'm seeing this because they're lumping fastballs forcing fastballs.
He's hitting one ninety eight, which is better than last year,
but it's sinkers that he's absolutely destroying this year. So
he's really destroying sinkers forcing he's kind of struggling, So
I don't know, he's just kind of a weird dude
that bogs. Maybe he's like a just a fifth round
type of guy, which still is an okay return. I
actually don't think that somebody you can cry about if
you got him in the third or you know, maybe
sixth round or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if he finishes off the year hot,
you're gonna get him back up in the second and
third this year. So what do you do this year?
Speaker 2: Isn't like the third round.
Speaker 3: I think it was like late second, early third, so
depending on who was taking him. But yeah, I think
that if he finishes hot, you're still because he's still
twenty four, you know, so you're gonna see people are
still gonna see a lot of upside there with PCA
for the next three years. So I think he's probably
gonna be overdrafted the next couple of years, unless he
either gets really hot or bottoms out.
Speaker 2: In the home run department. Four homers went to PCA
and one other player. Thirteen players had three or more homers,
But that other player it's Hunter Goodman. Hunter Goodman now
sits at seventeen homers in two hundred and twenty seven
at bats, hitting two forty two, five stolen bases, incredible
bat speed. The hard hit is actually identical to last year.
He's barreling the ball more, he's getting the ball in
the air. He's pulling the ever living s out of
the ball thirty five percent pulled air percentage, which is
really making do with some stuff. And it's very funny
because I was staring at my rest of season ranks
and it's cal Raley's really tough because like, you know,
the yeah, like that, but it's like he could come back,
and we know who can be. I was having this
really big struggle between Hunter Goodman and him.
Speaker 3: But seeing his weird home road splits, by the way,
tell him to me two oho four at home with
six homers eleven homers away hitting two seventy four.
Speaker 2: That is so weird. Also, that kind of seems like
a dude that can bounce up. But what I was
saying was that actually kind of helps it. I was
staring at Goodman versus cal ralely and I was just
thinking to myself as I was doing the ranks, like
I just cal Raley would kill to be Hunter Goodman
right now, you know, And maybe the median version of
cal Rawley is this now, to be fair, the positive
version of cal Rawley, which we did see for it
was a year ago, was a guy that was hitting
like two seventy with a billion homers. So the upside
is maybe there, but like, and it doesn't work like this,
but it's like if you could have moved cal Raley
to get Goodman and something like, I would take that.
So like, I think Hunter Goodman is a player hitting
in Colorado the rest of the year. That's weird.
Speaker 3: Split I think is going to change that. I think
every other year it's been the opposite. He's hit way
better at home. So well, also, you expected two four
to come up, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have not told me that. And just
it's Colorado, Like you got to git better at Colorado.
So I don't think that's going to continue. So I
think kinder Goodman is in that mid pack of catchers.
But I ranked Goodman over cal Roly right now.
Speaker 3: I think he's just been hot in June and they
probably have had mainly away games in June, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: So. In the RBI department fourteen for Matt Chapman, God
felt like he was a ghost. Dylan Dingler had ten,
Jordan and Paradus both with nine, and then a bevy
of players with eight. I like, I remember looking at
Chapman multiple times and just being like, is he dead?
Are we done? And it kind of still feels that way.
In two hundred and forty one at bats he has
four homers on the year, zero stolen bases with a
two forty five average, just a shell, and underlying stats
also are kind of a shell. Bogs five percent barrel,
which is continuing a four year decline. Average ex velocity
the worst of his career eighty seven point seven. His
XBA tells a worst story, his launch angles down. Is
this just like part of a bad run, which real quick,
because I want to say his babbit is actually better
than his career. Is this part of a bad run
that is going to turn? Or is this a declining?
You know, I don't want to say stut or star
or anything like that, but a declining good fantasy baseball
player that is nothing more than league average.
Speaker 3: Now, I okay, I don't think he's quite there yet,
because the ISO is up this year too, and he
has sixteen doubles already. He hit twenty three all year
last year, so I think he's probably barely missing. So
maybe just the overall power is down, but the power
production with the ISO is higher than it has been
since twenty twenty three for him when he played in Toronto.
Speaker 2: So are you higher of him?
Speaker 3: I am? I think he Also, he's no homers at home.
He has zero homers and home, and all four of
his bombs are on the road, so I'm sure that's
an issue too. But I do like, I'm not a
you must go out and buy this player because he's
so low. But three of his homers have come in
this month in June, in only seven games, So I
feel like he is coming back a little bit now,
and he is going to be dirt cheap even after
this good week. I feel so because I think most
people say, okay, thirty three year old playing in San
Francisco hasn't hit any homers there. This is probably the
beginning of the end for Matt Chapman. And that might
be the case. But I think I'd be willing to
buy on him if I could right now. I just don't.
The price would have to be pretty low, you know,
it's inter should be because of what he's done.
Speaker 2: April he hit two eighty. May he hit one eighty six,
and then he's up to three eighty one in June.
I think you might be telling the better, like more
balanced story. I think I'm out. I think I'm out
on Matt Chapman overall. Like you, obviously, the declines are
the results of whatever is going on, and that whatever's
going on could be like, oh, it's just you know,
like two bad months and he hasn't made his good
contact and everything's going to kind of bounce back, or
these could be the outliers of like this new symptom
of like there's just worse overall production, like his XPA
this is surprising, or his batting average two thirty two
against fastballs, two fifty three against breaking and two eighty
six against auspeed expected all dramatically lower. Thirty points are
lower on every single one of those. So the XBA
is telling a much different story. He's not pulling the
ball as much. It's not a great ballpark.
Speaker 3: You want Curtis Mead or do you want Matt Chapman.
Speaker 2: I think Matt Chapman has the better upside, But like
right now, I'm in a ten man league, I would
drop Matt Chapman for Curtis Meat And I wouldn't think
twice Nolan Ernado do the same thing Nolan Road has been.
I actually think I take Aeronado over Matt Chapman rest
of season.
Speaker 3: I don't hate that. I just think that, you know,
you could get if this is a case, if what
you're saying is the case for most people, and I
think you're a pretty good parometer for the market for baseball.
I think you can get him as a toss in. Yeah,
and that's a basement yeah, get him for a toss
in yeah yeah, well even even in a redraft league
if you just need a c I even, you know,
and you could get him back as a toss in
or for you know, in a dynasty, like you said,
a late pick or something. I think I would go
ahead and do that because, like you said, his power
is dramatically down, but three homers have been this month. Yeah,
so you.
Speaker 2: Know, well, I meant I wasn't talking in Dynasty at all.
I was talking in reed draft like to me and redraft,
like you know, as a throw in or something like that,
and you want to play around. But I'm not interested
in him. In a ten man I might not be interested,
to be honest with you, like the same thing would
fly in like a like a five twelve man league,
you know that has some available players, Like if Curtis
me just sitting out there, I dump them for that.
But I get, but I get your take.
Speaker 3: I get.
Speaker 2: I mean, his own contact is up. You know, some
of these things kind of seem like wildly lowers. Max
ev is like still there, he's striking out less and
stuff like that. But I just think there's too many
warning signs. Plus it's like a bad ballpark, and I
think I'm just like just kind of out on Chapman.
Dylan Dingler is another one of those like really weird ones.
Batting average is kind of stunk. I feel like we
have this, we have this every year with a couple
of these catchers, big huge power output. His profile looks,
you know, it looks reminiscent of It almost looks reminiscent
of like Ben Rice last year, but there's just no
batting average to support. To check this out, fourteen homers,
two thirty five average.
Speaker 5: He has expected like Exwoba expected slug top three percentile
of the league, barrel percentage thirteen point nine, top fifteen percentile,
hard hit rates over fifty percent, top ten percentile.
Speaker 2: His XBA is two ninety seven. That is sixty points
higher than where he's at. So even if you cut
the middle, if you've got a two sixty catcher with
that fourteen power output, if he continues this run which
guess what, Yes, he's pulling the ball in the air.
He's getting the ball in the air more. He's barreling
the ball dramatically more and hitting it hard, he might
be a thirty home run hitter with a two to
fifty average. Dingler is a top ten fantasy catcher rest
of season. It's hard to argue.
Speaker 3: Again, you'd rather have him than Liam Hicks now right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: This month, he hit two twenty four in May after
hitting three to fifteen with seven homers in April. In March,
so I think I think the Liam Hicks train might
be over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, little poupos, Yeah, I was messing with him in
the updated ranks. That's a tough one. Amphrazing. In the
runs apartment, we had Churio with eight runs as well
as Yellich. Bowers had seven. So lots of Brewers, Camonaro,
Nick Gonzales in there, anybody that you want to talk
about it and there we talked about Bowers recently. I
think in last week's episode. There's kind of some big
names that are floating out there. Mean, I suppose we
haven't talked a ton about Trio what well, I want
to talk about a bigger name here. What is Jose
Ramirez hitting for June?
Speaker 3: Because his XBA has been high all year, but he
keeps hitting two thirty which has been frustrating.
Speaker 2: Taking look here, Yeah, he's still hitting two thirty eight
in June. He either hitting three thirty three after hitting
two thirty four in May and two fifty in April,
so picked it back up. No homers to speak of,
but he has hits in four of six games so
far this month and he has raised it. The thing
is his life.
Speaker 3: He in then MVP voting, by the way, Oh, I
think he's like fifth or six or something like that.
He's got to be pretty low. But I mean, if
the odds are really great and we're gonna have you know,
Bobby Wake get hurt and Aaron Judge get hurt in
front of him. We know Jordan gets hurt almost every year. Like,
might not be a bad invent this second. If he's
gonna start hitting three hundred for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that's been your play. You did
that on the thing. I mean I don't I just
don't think I can necessarily touch it. But to your point,
ten homers, twenty three stolen bases with a two eighty
six XBA. If from this point on he was hitting
three hundred plus and the Guardians continue to win games,
he is likely, if this pace continues, gonna be a
thirty sixty guy. That's actually kind of a sneaky bet.
I can't see it now because NL games have started
and DK's not showing any but I think it was
like there's like eight, you know, eight plus eight thousand
or something like that. Like someone he's.
Speaker 3: Got ten homers. All the projection places have in between
thirteen and seventeen mores that put him somewhere between twenty
five and thirty. I always the projections have him at
twenty to.
Speaker 2: I always like to look at war when I look
at MVP stuff because I know war what is a
good for? But like war is one of those things
of like you know that, like you're gonna get like
riders and stuff paying attention to I guess to his credit,
he's in the top thirty. He has a two point
three WAR, but Bobby Witt has a three point eight.
He could make that up if he starts going ballistic,
and then it could be an interesting case in the
AO where it's like Bob, but the top two guys
in war, there's only three players with a three war.
It's actually this is gonna be nuts. Bobby Witt three
point eight, Jordon Alvarez three point four.
Speaker 3: Can you guess who the third player is? So say
it again, it's Bobby Witt jord On Alvarez.
Speaker 2: Those are the there's only three players that have a
war of three or higher as far as hitters go,
I'm not looking at pictures here. We have talked about
this man on this show.
Speaker 3: One more time. Who are the top two?
Speaker 2: Alvaism Wit? Who the best players in baseball?
Speaker 3: Is it not Judge?
Speaker 2: Nope, It's also hurt now he was in the twos.
He's not even in the top thirty right now, Ben Rice,
he's seventh on the list with a two point seven.
Speaker 3: We've talked about it in this episode Jordan Walker, when
we haven't talked about Jordan Walker. I don't know who
is it.
Speaker 2: I don't know Pete Crow Armstrong PCA, especially with fielding
defensive what's his fielding war is it?
Speaker 3: Most of it?
Speaker 2: It's eleven point nine. Yeah, offense a point five. That's
the defensive what do they call defensive fielding and position
adjustment combined above average? That the defensive rating here is
is an eleven point nine. Bobby wits a fifteen for
reference with an offensive eleven point seven. Very just very interesting.
But yeah, I mean Ramirez could definitely boost that up
and he could start making that a lot closer. It's
not a whole lot of room you have to do,
but that's a good speculative bet if you wanted to
do that. In the Stolen based apartment, speaking Bobby Waite,
he now leads the league. I believe he's tied with
Jose Ramirez. That yeah, him and Jose Ramirez have twenty
three as well as n seem noon. He has ridiculous.
Two of the top five players you took in a
leading the league in stolen bases, which is nuts, and
Bobby Witt leads the way. Julio Rodriguez he had six
and last week Julio had four in the past week
and a whole bunch of guys had three. So Wit
and Julio kind of doing their damage. Bobby Wit still
very underrated. That's why you don't want to lose him.
But man, I gotta throw this at you now that
we've talked about at BOGS. Here's your comparison Bobby Witt
and Jose Ramirez. Ramirez has one more homer, six more runs,
six more RBI, the same amount of stolen bases, has
a four percent better walk rate, a five percent better
strikeout percentage only thirteen percent, and he's hitting about over
forty points lower.
Speaker 3: His remeetrative numbers are not what Bobby's saying.
Speaker 2: No, it's like a three. His offensive rating is out there.
I guess what I'm just saying. He owns four of
the five categories over Bobby Witt. Right now, just start going, yeah,
I know about average is down. If he were to
start clicking in right now and get that average up
to like two seventy two eighty, there might be a discussion.
Speaker 3: Plus three thousand. By the way, hard Rock still has
thirty to one. Yeah, so thirty to one along with
the same odds as Cameron Arrow, Shayelangeliers and a thout.
You know, Buckston is forty to one, but the guys
ahead of him are Kurtz, Rice Alvarez Wit like you
said with still With and Alvarez on hard Rock are
both plus one thirty five to lead, and then Ben
Lee's plus three to fifty.
Speaker 2: Cleveland owns the division. They are tie.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I guess the Yankees are the most wins in the AL,
but they have the second most wins. Pretty interesting. That's
actually a very if I I'm not that's not really
my market. I don't just don't do that stuff like
Joe or anybody, but like I, that would be something
I would think about sprinkling a little on. That might
be a fun one to watch.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: A couple slumping guys over the last two weeks. We
have Kyle Tucker hit names. Yeah, Kyle Tucker hitting one
sixty seven still with one, Homer Manny Machado one forty nine,
he does have three homers. William Contrera is only two thirteen.
Nico Horner's back on this with two sixteen, no homers,
two stolen bases. Mikey Trout won sixty seven with a homer,
Joe Adell a couple homers in here, Alex Bregman down
to two eighteen, one homer, no stolen bases. A few
other players, Jackson Merrill continues to stink, even though I
liked him and Chandler Simpson. He has not had a
stolen base in almost a month. Like it is insane,
and he's a little crazy, and he's banged up right now.
Leeds a league in Cott steals hasn't stolen a base
in like a month. He's banged up. It's a disaster
for him. So I remember I did that video get
out while you can, uh who stands out to you
on this? I know you've been kind of a Tucker defender.
I think in the last episode we talked about how
you're done with it. Contreras is alarming. I just I
think the only hard part about who are.
Speaker 3: You buying right now? I guess because like you can't
you can't buy Tucker with him playing this bad and
knowing he was still a first round the cost was
going to be too high.
Speaker 2: You could just thought too high. The only problem with
this list, I feel like this list is a carryover
the last time we did this. It's I don't know,
two weeks. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of
new names on this list, so it's like there's not
much that's changed.
Speaker 3: Your question had a really crap week. I think he's new.
I think Springer wasn't on this list last week. Maybe
William Catrez wasn't. But it's a lot of the same
names and it's going to continue to be a lot
of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you buy I would probably buy Nico Horner
on the cheap because he steals a lot of bases
and he typically hits for a lot of average.
Speaker 3: You buy a man in Machado.
Speaker 2: I was before. I don't think he can be this bad,
So I do think there's like, and this isn't great
analytical argument, but it's one of those it's like, he
can't keep continuously being this bad. So like, i'd buy
him on the cheat if you're asking me, like, I
think there's quite a few players Tucker I buy in
the cheap Machata, I buy in the cheap William Catres.
Maybe i'd be so I'm more than interesting catchers those two.
But if you're saying, like, who would I have to
buy with smaller discounts, I think Nico Horner because he's
kind of lower valued. I think if you consider Trout's
overall value in the public conversation, I think he's just
kind of overall cheap. I think the one I'm surprised
at myself about is Alex Bregman. I just don't think
I'm interested in Bregman at all, and maybe that's silly.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of fair to not be interested
in most of these guys. I think, you know, spring
Put a guy I would buy by the way I
did it, and that's fine too. I think he's gone
down cheap enough to where you can get him still.
But I think I think Tucker Machado is still going
to be too expensive, so I'm not doing that. I
think you're caught on Horner is perfect. I don't know
about Bregman. I'm probably more in than you are, but
not quite there yet. You know, I'm not buying Trout
because it's like, Okay, he's bad and now he could
get hurt later, so pass on that. The rest of
these guys don't really matter. I'm not buying Nimo. Riley Simpson, Yeah,
I have no interest.
Speaker 2: I'm just out of the business. It's a very weird
listed and very weird list. All right, let's go over
to pictures. Some of the high end pictures that had
some good starts. Yamamoto eight innings, four strikeouts against the Angels,
only two hits. That's probably why you were like, hey,
let's put Yamamoto in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Still good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Ryan, even though his arm almost fell off,
six innings, six strikeouts, one and run against Kansas City.
Jacob de Gram six innings, six strikeouts, three hits against Cleveland.
Both of those players were kind of in my cell
articles over the last two weeks are on Fantasy Pro.
Those don't look great, but yeah, I one was a
by Hoigh or one was a Cell high in d Grom,
and the other was like, you know, should we be
more worried about his arm in de Gram? Apparently we shouldn't.
Cam Schlitzer came back five innings, five strikeouts against Boston.
Jacob Mizerowski seven innings did up three walks, but eight
k's at Colorado.
Speaker 3: One head taken off right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one skull he claimed as his own. Nolan
McClain six innings, five strikeouts against San Diego. San Diego's
offense is so but I saw a tweet did it
go away? Oh damn it? It was like, oh man,
I wish I'd saved it. It was like the San
Diego Padres offense this year compared to is Zach Granky's
career batting, And it was like Zach Granky his career
as a hitter was better than the entire Padres team
off That's what's in Yeah, or maybe it was like
over the last month or something. Dude, by the way,
like the next day after I brought that up, I
saw people tweeting about those guys again, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, are they still are they still a thing?
Speaker 2: No, they were just tweeting the video.
Speaker 3: They were just like the Padres and dads or dads, yes,
the Padres dads. Yeah, that's like I've been I've been
sending all kinds of cringey reel, sarboyage, Joe piece of
pa that that would fit right in there. That one
of them could be. If it comes up again, I'm
definitely sending to them.
Speaker 2: So I like it. Zach Wheeler seven innings, eight strikeouts. Man,
was that right about Wheeler? Eight strikeers? You two? Sannygo
Padres again, just dominating those guys, Sunny Gray six and
one third, three strikeouts. Theyre going runs against the Yankees.
A good trade candidate. Drew Rasmus in seven innings of
one yeah, all and nine strikeouts against Miami.
Speaker 3: Hello, he's been white hot, hasn't he? Am I making
that up? Is it just this start? I feel like
he's been really good.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't recall, but you tell me.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have any shares with Drew rasmusen.
But uh, let's take a look.
Speaker 2: I know that now.
Speaker 3: You know what he got shelled in his last art
four innings, five earned, but before that it was another
seven innings, no earned, five and a third two earn,
six innings, three earned. Like he's had a lot of
qss in here this year.
Speaker 2: A very interesting one is Sandio Contra seven innings, seven
strikeouts and earned run. I won't do this whole thing again.
I kind of pseudo talked about it. On fantasy pros.
But I spent like part of the morning this morning
because I got up earlier, and I just like went
down this rabbit hole of staring at like run values,
but individual pitch run values. And then it got me
into like looking at a bunch of different pitches and
leaders and the guys that were the worst, and and
but part of it all came from me staring at
Sandy O Contra and looking did you know in twenty
twenty two, let me backtrack for a second, what do
you think of good run value on a pitch? You know,
like you go starah at Baseball Savant and you see,
like you know, it's in red and something like that,
you see an EID or something like that, Like, what
do you think the run value on it?
Speaker 3: I think anything about five is pretty good, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you start getting like the dark darker
red when you get to like eight or nine or
something like that. So is that what you're like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So take a guess with san Dieo Contra's run value
on his change up and again, run value as for
an under quick understanding is it'll be like the value
of pitch to pitch. What that pitch does getting like,
let's say it's the change up getting from an zero
to one strikeout to a second strike or getting a
guy out with runners on base. Like, there's a formula
that is attached to each pitch and it creates like
overall run value. That's a very rudimentric way for me
to say, So, what do you think like san die
O Contra's twenty twenty two change up run value.
Speaker 3: Was, oh, like a twenty six, dude.
Speaker 2: You almost nailed it. It was a twenty seven. I'm
shocked that you went.
Speaker 3: Did he win that year?
Speaker 2: I think so? Twenty two run value on his change
up that's the most ridiculous. I haven't gone and looked
at any leaderboards to see as anybody had a run
value higher on an individual pitch. I kind of love
to know. But the reason I went down that rabbit
hole was how not good he has been? How like,
what what's the run value on the rest of his pitches?
What that year?
Speaker 3: This year? This year?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, well because because it's not a twenty seven
this year, by the way, his change up run value
this year, this was my main point. It's a negative
three everybody knew Sandy as the change up guy. It's
a negative three this year. He does have a run
value of five on his cutter, it's negative four on
his four seam, and he has a three on his sinker.
So that's it sinker and have been go two pitches,
and so I went down this rabbit hole of looking
and being like man, his change up he can't go
to and get punch outs. Also because in that start
he had a twenty two percent CSW on his change
up all of.
Speaker 3: His have you seen the batting average against on hole?
Speaker 2: Let me, I'm gonna lose this. Uh, the change up
twenty two percent CSW percentage that means whiffs and called
strikes only twenty two. That sucks ass, that's bad. So
then you go down this rabbit hole. What's his change
up value? Oh it's a negative three? Oh it's two
eighty one against Why is he getting banged around because
he doesn't have that change up to get his whifs?
And what's he having to do? He's having to go
to his sinker and is force seen more And guess
what two seventy eight against his sinker, three twenty nine
against his fastball Because that changeup doesn't do what it
used to do and get him in those great counts.
He's probably being pushed into more spot where he's got
to throw these sinkers and fastballs in places he doesn't
want to, which is creating some of the inconsistencies and
him getting hit around a little bit. It's a very
basic ass like I me not doing. I'd have to
do a couple hours of research to like really compare
like all this stuff. But like it was, I had,
I went down this rabbit hole of this change up,
and what the hell happened with it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, the change up, like you said, is
what he works everything off of, and it's getting crushed
right now to eighty one. But his sinker is also
getting hit at two seventy eight, and his four seamers
getting hit at three twenty nine. I just said, but
I understand, I understand. Hold on, let me finish my point.
The sinker last year was two sixty eight, two twenty
and then two sixty two. So these like this, these
pitches get hit from him. They're not like impervious, they're
not like amazing great pitches, but they don't all get
hit at over twoin fifty at any point, So like,
I don't understand what's going on with him. I feel
like he needs to use AI to se be tipping
or something because this is ridiculu. The whiff rate on
the change up is still insane. It's still thirty one
point one. That's better than last year. But it feels
like people know what's coming because they're hitting it at
two eighty one when they hit it at two twenty
eight last year. So maybe it's just bad, but it's
very weird to see the three pitches that he throws
the most all getting banged around.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, yeah, I mean, And my logic to it
is what I was saying, was I think the change up,
it's it's less effective than ever and it has led
him to relying on those two pitches more and in
spot because again, run value is in the spots that
you're throwing them, and it has created and put him
in a situation where he's getting hit more because the
change up doesn't work early on.
Speaker 3: Or is it weird that it's getting banged around so bad?
But the whiff rate in the putaway rate is better
this year than it was last year on the change up.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all weird. It's again like smarter people could
do better understandings. Mine is a super basic ass version
of it. But yeah, I wish I had better answers
for it. All it has led me to believe is
like he's just inconsistent, Like these are this is the
reasons for those inconsistencies. And I don't believe we're gonna
see the same versions of Sandy that we've seen in
the past. I think those might be kind of gone,
you know, because it's like he still is you can
go deep into games and he can get out, So
that doesn't mean he's a horrible pitcher by the way.
You know, he's got these other pitches. His cutter has
been a lot more valuable this year and he's relying
on it. But it's just like he had a formula
that worked and that's gone and those elite has gone.
Speaker 3: He's even like, you know, he's throwing out of the
zone more and getting more swings on it and it's
still not going well with rate is exactly the same
from last year. I don't understand any of this. That's
very strange. Yeah, that's weird. I like that you went
down that weird rabbit hole because this does this looks
really weird?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had me a lot butch By the way,
if you just want to look at run values, Sean
Newcomb is the next big breakout guy. Like he is.
He has one of the most valuable fast pulse in
baseball right now. It's ridiculous as a reliever with the
White Sox. It is stupid what he's doing right now.
But it's really funny looking too, because I think the
least valuable slider in all of baseball is Brian bo
big shocker there, So going down that rabbit hole. A
couple of the pictures I wanted to point out Mike
Soroca seven eighty six strikeouts against Washington could just continues
to be good. Tanner Biby had eight innings with three strikeouts.
But the guy that really stood out justin Robleski. That's
one I kind of I actually was going to go
in the wrong I think I mentioned this, I was
going to go in the other direction of Robleski, and
then I pushed against it in that like I think
him being a starter and learning how to be a
starter like that effectiveness is going to keep going because
his pitches are really good. He was also one of
those guys that I think had like if I remember correctly,
had a hot Yeah, is it an eleven run value
on his fastball? So he is throwing that thing in
spots that is getting outs, whether it is you know,
men on two men on, you know, getting into one
to two strikeout counts. But he's fat. I don't know
if you've heard about this. He's so fast, fascinating. Did
you know that he has like a book that he
writes in after every start and he goes pitch by
pitch and situationally looks at everything. And he was talking.
Speaker 3: He say, he's looking at too much Welsh. I think
that's way too much work to be doing, and that
much work.
Speaker 2: But he said, like he he's like if someone looked
at my book, they would think I'm like a psycho
and they wouldn't understand it.
Speaker 3: He is it written in symbols or English.
Speaker 2: But he's got like lots of information. I think he
put like hard hit rates on it and stuff, and
he had just gained to game on how he performs,
and he I think puts his own value on the
decision making he does. I find him fascinating. He analytically
is not like sexy. It's a sixteen percent K percentage,
And you know, I don't know if any of the
stuff is actually otherworldly. He doesn't walk a whole lot,
but like, he just keeps getting it done, and he's
a frickin' gamer and he's doing it almost primarily being
a two pitch pitcher. But his fastball is one of
the better higher rated fastballs and all of baseball right
right now with how he's using it and how he
commands and doesn't walk. So I'm I'm a firm believer
in Roblest.
Speaker 3: How much does a body that he doesn't get strikeouts though, Yeah,
it totally bothers me. That's why the second lowest k
per nine in among qualified starters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm telling you, I was staring at him
like a month ago, and I was ready to put
him in the op like the get rid of him territory,
by the way, and then I just like reverted and
I reverted some.
Speaker 3: Of these names down here fromber is thirteenth worst and
we'll be down k per nine. Nick Martinez is dead last,
and Robleski, then cater Montero McGreevey, Andrew Abbott, Sandy Eduardo Keller,
Ryan Nelson Basquez. That's your top ten just of qualified pictures.
How many? How many are even qualified?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 3: Uh sixty seven it looks like and obviously miss is
highest caper nine.
Speaker 2: That's a weird group. Rookie Sazaki continues to dominate. Seven innings,
ten strikeouts. Dude, he is. He's found that splitter, he's
found he found the three pitches, and he's coming into
his own. Seven innings, two hits, ten strikeouts, two walks
against the Angels. Nice to do it against the Angels,
but ridiculous. And Bryce Miller six innings, nine strikeouts against
Detroit under fifty percent owned. There's some dudes in here.
I labeled read debtmers as a buy. Six innings, six strikeouts,
two walks, two hits. Way yeah, he's way way up there.
I talked about him and the as a guy that
I want to buy right now. I'm interested in the
pitch mix. He's actually lowered the v low on his
fastball in his slider, but he's changed the shape and
you're seeing the results to it, like you're having some
tremendously good results. His walks are down like and there's
a lot of trade rumors floating out there. I'm kind
of into Redebtmers is like getting him thrown in some
trades right now, because what he's doing I think is fascinating.
And you know, I mean, I've heard rumors of him
go to the White Sox, which I'm not sure I
would love, but they do some great stuff with pitchers
as well. I think I'm just in the Reed Debtner's market,
even though he's one of those guys that's like v
low down bad, but I don't know, it seems like
shape good.
Speaker 3: His XCRA is two ninety two and his actually ARI
is four twenty six too, so high strikeouts, much better
expected era than actually era, and the potential to move
to a better team for more wins. Sign me up.
I'm all about it.
Speaker 2: Starting pitching market. JT Ginn six innings, eight strikeouts, forty
four percent. Noah Cameron six innings, seven strikeouts, only two
hits against Minnesota forty four percent on Jared Jones went
five innings, four strikeouts, two walks against Houston and Tatsuya
My five innings, two in runs, three walks, but eight
strikeouts against the A's forty two per gain. Cameron Jones, Ami,
you get one?
Speaker 3: Who do you want in my Mine's been great, it's
probably again, it's probably again. But Ami has been great
since coming off the I Out, he has been I
think he had a bad start in his first one.
The next three have been really good. So I like, uh,
I like all these guys. I think they're they all
should be over fifty percent.
Speaker 2: But I actually agree with you. I probably take Jared Jones,
but but again is right there, like right like I
like both of those guys. I just like the Jared
Jones like strikeout potential. But I'm the I. I still
you know how I am with am I but he
definitely Yeah. But but it's like all the stuff that
I said is now happening. I feel like for am
I finally so it but somebody.
Speaker 3: That picked him up off the wire, not it was
well of course, yet that's true. Yeah, so I was wrong.
I'm not gonna I'm not saying it was right, but
I didn't say. I know, I know, I know, I
know you're not accusing me. But I just think that
the stuff that I thought was going to happen is
happening now. But it took a big personal and cultural
adjustment for him coming over, which is just something that
happens with these guys. I think you saw the same
kind of deal from Roki Sasaki as well, and now
he is. I feel like there's almost no fear now
that he's succeeding. Not that there isn't, but uh, I
think you know, you you tend to write off the
bad starts for these guys coming over, and I think
we can do that for both these guys. Maybe we'll
see what am I does. You know, it's only three
good starts in a row. He could be really bad
for the next three and then everybody's off the train again.
So who he's moved to?
Speaker 2: Like, he's streamable to me? Now, I don't like I would.
He's at the bottom of the list of those three
guys that I mentioned for me, but I think he's
now Like if you were floating out there and it's
like a decent matcher, you know, like the a's at home.
Speaker 3: I would take him over everybody below him on this list.
Speaker 2: Pretty okay. So the guy's below You got McGreevy, who
is thirty percent on six innings five strikeouts against Cincinnati'szebbie
Matthews went seven innings, two earned runs, four walks, only
two strikeouts. Against Kansas City, a boy, Gauge jumped six
and one, three hits, three walks, three strikeouts. Then you
get down to pretty lower percentage of like Christian Scott
Ryan Feldner. I think I would actually I'm gonna take
Jump over him, and I think I would take Matthews.
I don't know if I would take McGreevy. They're pretty close.
Speaker 3: But I think how I grew Jump is the only
one that I would consider. The rest of them I
don't consider.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how I grouped again Cameron Jones and Ami with him,
I would more lump Ami with McGreevy, Matthews and Jump,
And then like that's like a tier of type of
players to me, which to be fair. In a deeper
twelve team, Jump, Matthews, McGreevy and I are probably closer
to streamers. Definitely in a fifteen team, well fifteen team
you actually probably have to keep them, yeah, But in
a twelve team, those are like the top end of
like the type of streamer I'm looking at. But if
you want to hold because you believe in one more
than the other, that's fine. I like Gauge, Jump, how
deep he's going into games. And but I'm a little
bit worried about like Sacramento in the summer and stuff.
Some s he starts from some pitchers. Aaron Nola five
earned runs four and one third against the White Sox,
Edward Cabrera three and two thirds eight earned runs against
San Francisco, and Merril Kelly five inning, seven earned runs
against Washington. They're all forty nine, fifty six and fifty
eight percent own. Who is a must hold, must hold?
Who would you like want to hold on of those three?
I don't think I want to hold on a Merril Kelly.
I'll tell you that I can guarantee you Dan.
Speaker 3: Not Edward Rare either. He's already been hurt. So I
guess it's Nola.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Nola's had a few little signs.
Maybe it's Nola. Also lower Mitch Keller sixern runs against Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Joey was on a nice streak. I feel like Keller was.
Speaker 2: And then just yeah, Joey Cantillo seven earned runs against Texas,
Anthony k got them things lit six innings, Andrew Painter
sixerned runs against the White Sox, and Jay Casano Witch
none of those guys are anything I'm caring about or
holding on to whatever, So it's it's nothing in that world.
And then in the closer market, blown saves that led
and or led to losses. Kirby Yates got an elegainst
the Dodgers on the six, Antonio sends a Tella, got
a blown save against Milwaukee, Trevor McGill blown saved but
ended up getting to win. And Jesus Christ, dude, I
feel like we have seen him three times in the
last like a month. Andrew Munos got an l against Detroit.
Speaker 3: It's like every show, dude. I mean, Munio's they got
a trade for a closer America.
Speaker 2: Well you know, might you know who it might be
is Jose Ferrera has been if I remember correctly, has
been absolutely dominant. Yeah, he's got a one five to
five era. His whip is little up but only a
under five percent walk rate, twenty percent k percentage, two
percent barrel rate, and he pumps a sinker in ninety seven.
Speaker 3: That's an Munos era is five point four.
Speaker 2: That's creaty. I think I'm not four. Like I don't
want Munya to lose his gig or anything like that,
but I am for like, maybe you give Munos like
two weeks off to like reset and just put Ferrera
in that. I think Ferrera would be the one that
they would throw in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Matt Brash is Era. He's only had sixteen outings,
but there is under one is point five to six
right now?
Speaker 2: Maybe they could piggyback. It's like, yeah, whatever's lefty or
right cause I think isn't brash orlrighty?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: A left? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, mix a match. I mean, Ammonnios is not
long for this job. He's got the red marker next
to his name is Era is over five. Yeah, he's
just he's been miserable this year. His strikeout rate is
still crazy high. It's thirty three point seven. Was walk
Ray He's eight point seven. So I don't know, Like
I do still think Andre's Munio's stuff is the best
out of this group, but he is not putting it together.
And you know, closers are just so finicky. He's probably
gonna be He's probably not closing games for the Mariners
by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Some non closer saves Travis Adams on the fifth against Colorado,
ingers Gomez had pitched the night before Tyler Zuber his
fun names here versus Tampa Bay. This is after Fairbanks.
He had took thirty nine pitches for two outs. Brad
Lord got one that was a two dinger? Did he
or Fuenttes? That might be more of the role Iglacier
to pitch back to back Knights That was a guy
that was a pseudo starter. Anthony Bender and Dylan Smith also,
anybody in there mean anything to you?
Speaker 3: The Marlin job I think is up for grabs right
now because Fairbanks has been fairly terrible since coming back.
So his era is seven for one ys seven saves
right now. But Bender is right behind him, so is
I know they like Fauchet his era is three one,
you know it was who was Zuber here? His He's
only had two appearances so but I think Bender is
probably going to get that job at some point because
they're not trading for a closer. But Fairbanks, with his
seven era has got to get out of that role.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have a hard time believing
they would give up Fairbanks. Pretty outspoken guy, kind of
belongs as a closer. But to your point, you can
only be bad for so long.
Speaker 3: Devin Williams vra is still five and a half. Here.
Let me look at the other closers that are bad.
Let's see who's that's Devin A Ken Miguel is four
point seven. Avenue Uiba's up over four. They could use
a steady hand as a closer there. Uh, Tony Santillion's
cra in the sixes. That's why they keep going to
different guys. There any other any other like closer jobs
that you're worried about, Welsh, I.
Speaker 2: Think it's just a weird time right now. I'm not
sure what you know. I mean, whatever the hell the
Reds are doing, it's more like looking for definitiveness. I'm
not sure like any of the studs. I'm I mean,
even Fairbanks, I'm kind of defending a little bit. Uh,
it's more of the uncertainty, you know, that's floating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Erg lost that job basically, right is that's great point.
Speaker 2: We should have talked about that because it's Oh, I
just dropped playing Alex Lang. Alex Lang is a dude
who just out of the clouds. Looks like he has
a stranglehold on that because Estevez is out er seg
looks like he has kind of dropped that, and they're
just going to hot hand again. I would drop I mean,
I don't think that's breaking news. Anybody drop him. I
would drop erseg for him in a heartbeat because I
think they're going to just keep rolling him out and you.
Speaker 3: Gotta save the other night. But that was because lang
It pitched two Knights in a row. I also think,
you know, Sir Anthony de Mingez, his uh era is
three nine one. After White Sox keep winning games, if
he keeps blowing on the Grand Taylor, that's gonna go
to Grant Taylor or mister outside Higher.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, well Grant Taylor. Like the only thing was
they floated to us that, like maybe they would start
to stretch him as a starter. He's been in the
ninth and he is dominant. I think he's just gonna
close out games the rest of the year. Yeah, he
could easily do that. Yeah, all right, there you go.
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