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I'm from the future. 13 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.960 I'm from the Final Breaths of twenty twenty, giving you 14 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:41.719 not one, but two episodes this week. I told myself 15 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.920 I would take a couple of weeks off, and so 16 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:47.039 instead of doing that, I just created a couple bonus 17 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.920 episodes because I'm just very bad at resting and I 18 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.520 like my job too much, so deal with it. Okay. 19 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.280 So there's this one and a bonus update episode to 20 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:59.240 the Dendrology episode that's coming out the same day. Okay, 21 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:01.719 so listen to both. Here's the deal. This is a 22 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:06.519 refreshed encore of a May twenty eighteen interview that turned 23 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:10.159 out to be just a runaway fan favorite. It's probably 24 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:14.079 the most recommended Ologies episode ever in the history of Ologies. 25 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:16.920 So listen again or for the first time if you've 26 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:20.159 never heard it, and then close out this year on 27 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:23.879 a tree huffing high note because I love this topic. 28 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.959 I adore this ologe is so much that your cue 29 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.519 also has a bonus interview I just did last week 30 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.599 with Casey Klapp. It's so good. He's just pure joy. 31 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.120 There are so many updates about his life, and by coincidence, 32 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:39.879 he has a new podcast launching in a week I 33 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.040 didn't even know about, and so I want to hear 34 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:43.799 all about it. So there's this one and then the 35 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.319 bonus episode. Okay, let's go. Are you ready? Okay, here's 36 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.680 the probably scenario. This is what I'm thinking is happening. 37 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:50.480 You either fucking love trees and that's why you're here, 38 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.400 or you're like, good lord, podcast dad, What is this 39 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:57.560 long ass episode about trees even going to cover? I'm 40 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.640 going to dive in, but only if it's full of 41 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:05.640 infectious enthusiasm. This episode will make you so pumped about trees. 42 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.719 You're going to be bummed about having skin and blood. 43 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.800 You me so jealous of bark and sap, and you'll 44 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:15.400 have new scrabble words and you'll start questioning if you 45 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.719 should just string a hammock up in the backyard and 46 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.319 live outside like a big ape squirrel. But first, let's 47 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.479 get some business out of the way. I'll speak fast, Okay, 48 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:26.639 it's important business, like telling you you can be an 49 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.879 ologite who proselytizes with an Ology's shirt or pin or 50 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:35.360 tots if you wear tots at ologiesmerch dot com. Thank 51 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.080 you all for buying and wearing merch. Patreon dot com. 52 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.120 Slash Ologies is a portal through which you can also 53 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.120 ensure that this podcast exists. Patrons, I love you, I 54 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:47.599 want to put you in the front pocket of some 55 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:51.319 overalls and hug you so much. Also here in December 56 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:55.039 twenty twenty, Ologies this week number two in the science 57 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:59.719 podcasts number two, So rating and subscribing and reviewing this 58 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.759 week this week might just bump Hidden Brain add the 59 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.520 number one spot, if only for a leading moment. And 60 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:08.240 also I read all your reviews, such as this fresh 61 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.759 one from old rat Wizard who said I have been 62 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.039 using Ali's mom's trick to fall asleep ever since the 63 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.840 Somnology episodes, and it works like a charm. I appreciate 64 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:18.919 how you learn big facts and small day to day 65 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:23.039 tricks from this delightful host. Oh rat wizard stop. Also, 66 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:26.639 if you want to learn that fancy Nancy insomnia buster trick, 67 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:29.639 listen to both Somnology episodes. It will change your life. 68 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:35.159 Thank you, mom. Okay, Now onto dendrology. Okay, the trees? 69 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:38.520 You ready for trees? Okay? So dendro comes from ye 70 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.919 old Greek meaning tree. And if you're like that, why 71 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.879 does that remind me of brain stuff? Well, that's because 72 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:46.800 the dendrite is a part of a nerve cell that 73 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.800 looks a lot like a tree. So dendra, there you go. Trees. 74 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.759 So you've got trees in the brain. You're gonna have 75 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.319 trees on the brain after this, I'll tell you that much. 76 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.439 You're gonna be pining for more arborist facts. Okay, So 77 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:05.199 the term dendrologist is a little funky. So technically is 78 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.080 anyone who studies trees, which this human being I interviewed 79 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.840 has done. I have never met anyone with such a 80 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.560 raw zeal or deep knowledge for and of trees. You 81 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.639 will love him. He's been studying tree biology and dendrology 82 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.639 since two thousand and seven and he's currently a tree 83 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.879 inspector for the City of Portland, Oregon, and he gives 84 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.519 talks all over the world about trees. He teaches sold 85 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:34.720 out classes. I was like, so, yeah, so you're a dendrologist, right, 86 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:38.959 and he demurred at the title of dendrologist. I'm like, dude, 87 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:43.079 this is like when I was goth. I didn't realize 88 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.519 I was a goth until I look back at pictures 89 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.920 and I was like, oh, I was definitely a goth. 90 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:53.879 You study trees, You're a damn dendrologist, accepted, but he 91 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.839 was like, we'll get to that. So I was headed 92 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.759 to Seattle for a day to shoot this show called Innovation, 93 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.759 that's one of my other jobs, and I thought, I 94 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.120 bet there's got to be tree people up here. There's 95 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:06.959 so many trees. So I did a little googling and 96 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.879 I saw there was a sold out tree workshop the 97 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.439 day I was there, led by this Portland based dude, 98 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.360 and then I began very gingerly stalking him online to 99 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.839 try to get in touch. The only social media I 100 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.560 could find was a Facebook account, and after following like 101 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.680 a few leads, I emailed his bosses and then Presto. 102 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.240 The next day, I creepily invited him to hang out 103 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.839 in my hotel room. I figured his bosses knew where 104 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.399 he was, and I hoped he would not abuse his 105 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.560 access to chainsaws. He did not. He was great. So 106 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:41.879 we talked for literally two hours, which was very difficult 107 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.120 to cut down. No tree pun intended about so many 108 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.639 burning curiosities. Do trees feel pain? How do they talk 109 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:52.680 to each other? What's up with crown shyness? Does he 110 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.959 have a favorite tree? Will trees make you write your 111 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.319 novel any faster? Does he get sad when he looks 112 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.160 at wooden objects? What is tree porn? And are there 113 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.959 any super sad stories about trees? Spoiler yes and also 114 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.040 great ones also yes. So I'm gonna go out on 115 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.439 the lamb and say this is a great episode, So 116 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:16.199 stick around for some really wonderful tree facts. Well, yeah, 117 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:18.399 lumber up, I swear to God, that's gonna be the 118 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.959 last tree punt. Please trust me. For a person who 119 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:27.480 is somewhat in denial about being a dendrologist, Casey Clapp. 120 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:46.879 I've never done anything like this. 121 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.360 Yay, that's gonna be great. So this is your mic 122 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:54.000 you were you weren't the easiest person to to gently 123 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:54.639 stalk online. 124 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.199 Oh that's fantastic. So I didn't know I could be found. 125 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.839 Yes, anyone would ever. Look, I was like, I must 126 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:01.160 at trees with him. 127 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.120 Oh my god, this is so flattering. Thank you. 128 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:07.000 Okay, So I have a question, Yes, go ahead. Arborist 129 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:11.040 versus dendrologists, Yes, what's the difference? 130 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.639 So an arborist specifically focuses on trees in the urban area, 131 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:17.160 but most of the time and arbus is the one 132 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.360 who manages a tree in the urban area. So if 133 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.920 they're going to cut a tree, remove a tree, plant trees, 134 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:23.959 they're the ones usually have something to do with it. 135 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:28.120 But then a dendrologist is usually someone that's more on 136 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.199 the research side of the world, and they're like, Okay, 137 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.600 we're gonna study this plant its characteristics, or this tree 138 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.480 more specifically it's characteristics and where it fits in with 139 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.040 the rest of all the other trees in the world. 140 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.680 So dedrologists basically work on the back end of things, 141 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.600 classifying all the different trees into certain organizational standards. 142 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.000 So can you call if you study and you love trees, 143 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.319 can you call yourself a dendrologist? 144 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:53.360 Yeah, I would say, I would say so. 145 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.920 So Casey got his Bachelors of Science in forest management 146 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.399 with a focus on urban forestry, and then he went 147 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.240 and got a master's focusing on arbor culture. So it 148 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.720 seems that an arborist deals with trees, knows a lot 149 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:13.759 about trees, and a dendrologist studies identifying trees specifically. So 150 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:17.639 Casey studied dendrology but is now an arborist. But you, guys, 151 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.120 anyone who knows his damn much about trees is adendrologist 152 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.600 in my book, Okay, let's just agree there are bigger 153 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.160 issues in the world. Okay, this is why I'm saying. 154 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.720 Make sure to listen to today's bonus episode. It's an update 155 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.079 to see if he has changed his stance on this. 156 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.919 I mean, of course, I asked when you were going 157 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:38.360 about your education? Yes, so Casey's deciding to study trees. 158 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:39.840 Yeah, beautiful time. 159 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:41.840 Where do you start? 160 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:46.240 Well, for me, it started with a just a tenacity 161 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.639 about nature. I like to go outside and I like 162 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.039 to do things. I like to plan in the mud 163 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.960 and climb trees. And then I did. I built a 164 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.440 pond in my backyard, and I was like, I love this. 165 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.679 I'm gonna do it forever, and then ended up being 166 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:01.240 that I hated landscape architecture, like I can't do this. 167 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.480 This is so inf functional stuff. It's all I can 168 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:07.440 say freely that I don't think they gives them enough credit. 169 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.720 They do very good work, but I was very much 170 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.720 a person who needed to manage something and it needed 171 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.840 to be active, and it needed to have an amount 172 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:17.600 of utility in the landscape. So I was like, not 173 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:19.960 even really interested. So but I was killing it at 174 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.960 all the tree courses I was taking, I was just like, 175 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.679 this is immensely fascinating. I want to learn more about 176 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.360 trees for no other reason than learning it. So then 177 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.840 I transferred over to Oregon State University and I did forestry, 178 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.000 which was a way huge over correction because they don't 179 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.720 do trees for anything but making money. For the most part, 180 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.519 we're gonna we're just gonna grow these trees, to cut 181 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:44.480 them down, to make pulp, make paper, make money, do 182 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:45.320 whatever they're gonna do. 183 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.799 I didn't know that's what forestry was. I thought forestry 184 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.200 like tree hugging, like every tree had the name. 185 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.080 Oh gosh, oh, I wish this is for the people 186 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:57.720 who grew up on Fernguali, where we're just like, I 187 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.879 love this so much. It is an industry like any 188 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.879 other nowadays where you go out to mostly clearcuts for 189 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:06.600 all intents and purposes, which is they get a bad name, 190 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:08.799 but they're not actually that bad. In the grand scheme, 191 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:10.639 all they would do is go out and say, okay, 192 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:12.759 we have these many are this many trees, they're growing 193 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:14.960 this fast. We want to cut them down in fifty 194 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:16.840 years and make a profit. How can we do that? 195 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:18.919 So it's a really important thing, and you know we 196 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.159 have tables and chairs and pencils and all these things 197 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:23.279 that we use every single day. So it's a really 198 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:27.440 important renewable resource. But unfortunately they are looking at it 199 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.759 more or less for dollar signs, which is fun. 200 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.919 I was wondering, is someone who clearly loves trees? 201 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:35.919 Yeah, I got a lot of tattoos trees? 202 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:36.799 Do you really? 203 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.679 Then? Yeah? I got photosynthesis tattooed across my chest. 204 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.759 You're a walking power point. Yeah, sometimes especially try you 205 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.039 have photo sent this is on your chest. Yeah, what 206 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:48.519 else do you have? 207 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.000 I got a sugar maple on this arm, and then 208 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.720 i have roots coming down off of this arm. And 209 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:56.559 I'm wearing a long sleeve shirt, so obviously you can't 210 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:56.840 see it. 211 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.519 Your long sleeve shirt, by the way, has trees on it. 212 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.480 Yes, it has don redwood on the back. 213 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.399 Yeah, so you're covered in trees externally. And then also 214 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:07.919 from a dermatological. 215 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:08.720 Perspective, yes, yeah, pretty much. 216 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:12.480 Casey also has a pair of white bark pine cones 217 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:16.759 tattooed on the inside of his right bicep. They're beautiful 218 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:20.159 the tattoo. I'm not making a comment about his bicep. 219 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.879 Good job either way, that's your business. He has an 220 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:27.000 acorn on his other bicep, and he also has a 221 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:31.720 dodo bird to represent the delicate balance between endangered plants 222 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.759 and animals. So he's like a walking botanical garden pamphlet. 223 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:40.080 Obviously a very huge advocate for more trees in cities. 224 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:42.559 And for me, I'm like an la residence. So this 225 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:44.720 part of the conversation made my heart choke with Longing. 226 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.639 I was like, em, do you have trees in your city? 227 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:49.879 You lucky son of a bitch. 228 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.360 So every tree in the urban area is providing some 229 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.759 amount of benefit to the city. Many times people have 230 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.080 no idea, and it's a very subconscious sort of thing, 231 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.399 But there are reasons why certain streets covered with trees 232 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:04.879 or neighborhoods are more idyllic. And other people live in 233 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.840 other places that have no trees on their streets and 234 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:10.000 it's a much hotter place, it's more rigid, more sort 235 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:11.759 of industrial, and everyone's like, oh, that's a little more 236 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.399 or more of an uncomfortable space. Yeah. So basically what 237 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:16.320 I do now is say, here are all the characteristics 238 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.639 of trees. Here's how they flow, here's how they function, 239 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.759 and here's how you can best use them on your 240 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.919 side or in a city to accomplish all these great 241 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:24.000 things that they do. 242 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:25.200 Do you have a favorite tree? 243 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.480 I do, yeah, but it changes pretty constantly. 244 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:29.759 Think now, right now it would be. 245 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:31.799 The Kosh redwood, which is so stereotypical. 246 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.240 I know, why is that stereotypical? It's a majestic tree. 247 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.639 I completely concur but people have generally said, like they 248 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.039 come up with the first thing that comes to them. 249 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.879 So a lot of times when I ask people, they're like, oh, willows, 250 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.120 I'm like cool. Eighty percent people say willows or something 251 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.679 It's really strange. No one thinks about until you ask 252 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:50.480 them the question. 253 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:52.840 Do you know what your favorite tree is? I was like, 254 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.159 do I have a favorite? Yes? I do. It's an oak. 255 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:56.960 I have a favorite tree. I guess we all do. 256 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:01.480 But coastal redwoods Casey's favorite. They from southern Oregon, just 257 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.720 down the central coast of California all the way down 258 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.600 to about Santa Cruz. And they grow in this fog 259 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:10.360 belt right near the shore because that fog helps get 260 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.279 moisture to the top of these like three hundred and 261 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:17.200 fifty foot giant trees. And if you're needing to imagine 262 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.080 a silhouette of one, you're like, what do they look like? 263 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:22.159 You know the logo for Stanford. Okay, Well that there 264 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:27.080 is the image of El Palo Alto, one particularly famous 265 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:31.799 local coastal redwood tree. It's also the unofficial mascot of Stanford. 266 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:37.000 It's dubbed very creatively, the Tree, and according to Wikipedia, 267 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:43.120 the Tree, despite very heroically replacing a decidedly more shitty mascot, 268 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.000 the tree has been called one of America's most bizarre 269 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.799 and controversial college mascots. People hate it. It regularly appears 270 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.759 at the top of the internet's worst mascot lists, which 271 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.440 apparently exist. But I'm going a very publicly beg to 272 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:58.919 differ because once you have seen a jiff of a 273 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:02.679 dancing layer green tent with a very happy human being inside, 274 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:06.080 your heart's gonna be one. I love it anyway. Coastal 275 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.159 Redwood's Casey's favorite tree. 276 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.240 So naturally I get it all the time, so we 277 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.639 had a lot of time to think. Okay, So specifically, 278 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.360 they're just they're just the bomber trees. They are rot resistant, 279 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.320 so almost no funguses affect them. They are insect resistant, 280 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.840 so insects don't get into them, they don't eat the foliage, 281 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.039 they don't get into the bark. Their bark is like 282 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:29.600 literally feet thick, and it's fire resistant, so nothing can 283 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.559 penetrate it. Fire doesn't burn it. Sometimes fire will actually 284 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.440 hollow out the inside of the tree belave the bark alone. 285 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.639 But then the trees actually survive because they can sprout 286 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:41.600 from any place that still has functionality down to the roots. 287 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.799 So not only are they also the tallest trees in 288 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:46.759 the world, some of the longest lived, some of the 289 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.440 biggest in terms of volume, so they've accomplished you like 290 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.000 all these superlatives. Then on top of that, they basically 291 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.399 can outlive anything. They don't have any more predators, and 292 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.759 they can sprout. Most conifers can't do that. If you 293 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:00.960 cut them down at the base, they're done. They're ended, 294 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.360 really on it. For a redwood, you cut it down 295 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.360 at the base and the roots just shoot up all 296 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:07.519 these new sprouts and you're like, oh, the tree still lives, 297 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:07.960 this is great. 298 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:09.720 The roots are like, I don't care, I'm going I'm 299 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:10.879 gonna go ahead exactly. 300 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.480 Yeah. So they're just there are the world's just most 301 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.960 bomber trees, and if you haven't been there, you should go. 302 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.039 They're just there's nothing like in the world. 303 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:23.080 Quick anatomy lesson of trees. Okay, what are we dealing with? 304 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.639 And also true or false? The root system is like 305 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:29.080 kind of as big as the actual branches and cannon 306 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:33.399 mdiocrely both okay, okay, so give me an anatomy. 307 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:34.559 Yeah, sort of both, okay, So real quick, there are 308 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.039 four main organs of a tree. First off, what is 309 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:41.159 a tree? A tree by some definitions is literally like 310 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.200 this one guy on a book I have, he describes 311 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.840 it as a bush with a stick up the middle. Okay, 312 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.639 that's literally it's like, okay, that's a pretty dumb down version. 313 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:51.320 So that's what we will define as a tree. Ninety 314 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:53.240 percent of the things that you know of as a 315 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:55.679 tree are a tree. But then there's things like say 316 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:58.919 Joshua tree that's technically a yuka. It doesn't put on 317 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.559 annual rings the same the redwood or an oak wood. 318 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.519 Then there is banana trees. Banana trees are actually just cells. 319 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.279 There's no woodiness to them. You can go over and 320 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.039 knock them over if you really want, really not necessarily, 321 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.279 it's probably not that easy, but they're just big, big cells, 322 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:16.799 big big things are basically just large herbs, just like 323 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.039 a hoasta or anything else. Year. Yeah, so there's no 324 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:22.679 actual woody parts in them, So what we still call 325 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:25.480 them trees? So it's all like where's the definition going 326 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.960 so with so if we have a tree, we say, okay, 327 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:31.120 it's gonna woody thing. Let's just use a Let's use 328 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.360 the Oregon white oak for example. Okay, so the Oregon 329 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:35.960 white oak one usually has a single stem, comes out, 330 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.279 has this big, nice, beautiful globe like crown. So there's 331 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.240 four main organs. You have the roots, you have the 332 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.879 stem and the branches, then you have the flowering parts, 333 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.639 and you have the leaves. Those are the four things 334 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:49.840 that you would call organs in a tree, just for 335 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:53.679 simplicity's sake, four main organs. Okay, so the roots of 336 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.639 a tree. Generally, at least in the Pacific Northwest and 337 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.320 in are more temperate regions, this is gonna blow so 338 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.039 many mines. They're only in the top two to three 339 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.160 feet of soil. What that's it. That's it, even the 340 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:07.480 big guys, even the big guys. Yeah. So if you 341 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.119 ever are looking at a at a tree, you go 342 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:11.559 out to the woods and you see a tree that's 343 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:13.880 toppled over and it's picked up its entire root ball. 344 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.079 If you measure from the top of that down to 345 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:18.359 the very lowest route, you're not going to get past 346 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:19.359 four feet anywhere. 347 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:21.880 Crazy. I always thought they went way down, Yeah, and 348 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:22.680 go out. 349 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.880 They go out. Why go down any further? If you 350 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:27.240 can remain stable and you got all your nutrients and 351 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.200 all your water and oxygen you need at the top, 352 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:31.640 there's no reason to go down. You got all the 353 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:35.720 stuff you need. But basically you have imagine a wine 354 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:36.680 glass or a. 355 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.240 Like an umbrella that has a base. 356 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.960 Exactly an umbrella is sitting on a platter would be 357 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.319 the best way to imagine it. And so that's why 358 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.960 roots are so important. People like, oh, that's it's not that, 359 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.039 you know, they go down. You're like, no, no, no, no, 360 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.519 it doesn't. People think it's that mirror image, and it's 361 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:52.079 definitely not. 362 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:53.960 Oh yeah, because I feel like you do see that 363 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:55.200 kind of like mirror image. 364 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.079 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a friend who got 365 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:58.640 a tattoo of that exact same thing. And this is 366 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:00.799 before I knew anything about it. But yeah, the roots 367 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.519 go down, it almost mirrors the exact same thing going up. 368 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.079 And it's very romantic. Versions like oh that's great, you know, 369 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.599 you know, a reflection of below and above. But it's 370 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:10.319 completely false. 371 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.599 Oh my god, I have no idea. Okay, so that's 372 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:13.440 the anatomy of a trade. 373 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:15.960 Really well, there's one extra step. So this is the 374 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.559 next most important thing. Trees are compartmentalizers, so if you 375 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:21.720 cut off one of their branches, they will just close 376 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.400 it off and keep moving, just like compartments in a ship. 377 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.000 All you have to do is close it off and 378 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:28.519 then everything else can go on as normal. So they 379 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.160 have these two main things. You have cambium layer, which 380 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.839 is the vascular system of the tree, just below the bark, 381 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.960 just outside the wood. That's where the trees grow and 382 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.160 put on their new rings. That is where they send 383 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:41.920 nutrients and water from the ground up. And that's called 384 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.119 the xylum. That's a good word. If you play scrabble, 385 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.160 it's x Y L E M. You can fit that 386 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:49.880 in on a triple word score with that X. Man, 387 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.960 you're killing it. You're really doing well. Oh man. One 388 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.480 time I was also I was making a joke so 389 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.119 I know a lot of Latin terms for things, just 390 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.079 because it's the scientific names of plants and their parts. 391 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:00.559 And he's playing scrabble with a friend at a coffee 392 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:02.119 shop in Portland and this other guy came up and 393 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:03.359 he's like, hey, man, can I just play the guys 394 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:05.200 And we're like, yeah, yeah, totally cool, and I may 395 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:06.759 we made the joke. I was like, yeah, well, we're 396 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:09.880 only using Latin terms, and I swear to God without 397 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:11.839 even blinking an eye of the guy was just like okay, 398 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:14.759 and we're like, who did we get ourselves into? No, 399 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:18.319 he massacred us really nice grabble. Oh my gosh, he 400 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:19.920 knew how plays gravel. 401 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:21.799