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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What's going to happen? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another Headless Giants magical mail bag. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my guest Nick with me, and if you guys enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>authentic content, you should like this and.

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<v Speaker 3>Share with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight, We've got a couple of glyphs to bring you

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of pieces of mail. So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we start with you, Nick, show the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Your glyph all right today?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you gotta pull it up on you right. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking it's my streamyarding.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So today today we got Demnus Hieroglyphica, which was published

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<v Speaker 4>in fifteen sixty or created by John d. It is

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<v Speaker 4>both a symbol and a philosophical treatise expressed through a

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<v Speaker 4>single glyph that De.

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<v Speaker 2>Called the monass.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a mix of astrological and alchemical symbols designed to

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<v Speaker 4>represent the interconnectedness of all things and serve as a

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<v Speaker 4>key to understanding the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can see here, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Has the sun soul circle with a dot, symbolizing the

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<v Speaker 4>divine masculine principle and the source of light in life.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you have the moon Luna, a crescent representing the

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<v Speaker 4>feminine material world and receptivity, and then the cross signifying

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<v Speaker 4>the four elements earth, air, fire, water and their unity,

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<v Speaker 4>reflecting the hermetic concept of the quaternary and the ternary,

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<v Speaker 4>the four elements harmonized with the divine trinity. And then

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<v Speaker 4>there is the symbol of ares, linked to fire and transformation,

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<v Speaker 4>often associated with alchemical purification. These elements are arranged in

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<v Speaker 4>a specific way to show thee's vision of cosmic unity.

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<v Speaker 4>He believes that the monass held a kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>a mystic or an occult significance, acting as a tool

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<v Speaker 4>for spiritual and intellectual insight. You would suggest a meditating

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<v Speaker 4>or he would to unlock hidden knowledge and even communicate

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<v Speaker 4>with angels.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly, d saw it as.

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<v Speaker 4>A representation of a fundamental illness of creation, influenced by

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<v Speaker 4>celestial and terrestrial forces, and just real quick, before I

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<v Speaker 4>shut up. The Rosicrucians adopted the Monasque glyph. It appears

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<v Speaker 4>in the chemical wedding of Christian Rosenkrutz in sixteen sixteen. Supposedly,

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<v Speaker 4>the monass also influenced alchemists like and I covered this guy,

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<v Speaker 4>Heinrich Kunrath and Gerald Dorn and supposedly the glyph's influence

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<v Speaker 4>reached a new world through figures like John Winthrop the Younger,

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<v Speaker 4>the alchemist and Puritan, who used the monass as his

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<v Speaker 4>personal mark.

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<v Speaker 2>So there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's also interesting about that is it produces

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<v Speaker 1>the sign for.

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<v Speaker 3>Hermes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, I'm gonna think that's that's go ahead,

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<v Speaker 4>no go no, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>The sign for.

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<v Speaker 1>Hermes is important because they always say that he's the

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<v Speaker 1>one who travels between the realms. So it's connecting all

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<v Speaker 1>things in the one thing. And so that's what John

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<v Speaker 1>d was going for in his Monus high Hieroglyphica. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing for all things, so you can use

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<v Speaker 1>it in your magical practice to connect with all things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think even if you look at it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's even showing you that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's taking the masculine and the feminine energy's

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<v Speaker 4>putting it together.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you get.

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<v Speaker 4>You get something that looks like the mercury glyph Mercury.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's saying something about mercury, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Even in the Kabbala, the symbol one of the symbols

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<v Speaker 4>that can be used for which goes with mercury is

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<v Speaker 4>a hermaphrodite. I think that's very much what the Prince

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<v Speaker 4>was doing with his glyph and the way he presented himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And understanding that principle of hermes or the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of identifying the flow and getting into the states of

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<v Speaker 1>consciousness that will connect to with everything is also one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why you should do the meditations on

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<v Speaker 1>this glyph is because the idea is to slow the

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<v Speaker 1>mind and spread out the consciousness, and that's really how

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get the maximum kind of harvest for

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<v Speaker 1>your efforts. And so I think the John d glyphs

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<v Speaker 1>that he comes up with are really interesting to ponder.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you get into the whole idea of naki

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<v Speaker 1>and magic, you're going to want to have time to

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<v Speaker 1>meditate on stuff like this while working on it, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to go between all of the elements. So

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<v Speaker 1>as you construct the tablets that are meant for the divination,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to want to know these things before getting

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<v Speaker 1>into these rituals because you never know what you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to get out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, don't play with stuff you don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. This is like the precursor.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got my glyph here, which is the the anchor. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this anchor was the symbol for the Selucidian Empire. And

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<v Speaker 1>you'll notice right in there you got the cross, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the idea of the three pronged you know, Trinitarian

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<v Speaker 1>symbol of Poseidon, right, So you've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other glyphs mashed into this one. Now, the Selucitian Empire

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that took over after the death of

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander the Great in the region of Asia Minor all

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<v Speaker 1>the way over to.

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<v Speaker 3>Iran and close to India. So it was all over

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they telling you with this lyft anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>see it, this has to do with trade, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the Selucitian Empire thought that they could be the

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<v Speaker 1>new trading empire that they knew of in this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of region of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Syria, Israel, all of the stuff in between, Lebanon, all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of these places were very highly inducted into

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<v Speaker 1>the trading systems of the ancient world. And by having

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<v Speaker 1>the Selucitian Empire being closely related to all that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what they were trying to do was own all

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<v Speaker 1>the trades. So the Canaanites, the Phoenicians, all the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff that was in this area, all the

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<v Speaker 1>Canaanite and Phoenician stuff had fallen pretty much by that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had their Punic Empire kind of falling apart

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<v Speaker 1>by the time that the Selucidians sort of came to prominence.

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't even bring into the fact the Punic Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've also been looking into Ugarit, and ugar It

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<v Speaker 1>was a city that was right between the Egyptian Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>which was all the way down into Egypt, going all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up through Israel, all the way up through

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<v Speaker 1>all those areas, right at this one little spot that

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of the linkage between them and the Hittites.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you look into the bail cycle of mythology,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find a lot of stuff from the Bible a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years later. So they took a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration from the Ugarit bail cycle myths and put that

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<v Speaker 1>directly into the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he who rides the clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things that they talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>the bail cycle myth And you can also find it

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<v Speaker 1>in proverbs, so all of these honorifics and things, it

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<v Speaker 1>came straight from.

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<v Speaker 3>Ugart and you gar.

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<v Speaker 1>It lasted a long time because they were the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>entity not not to mess with. They kept the piece

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<v Speaker 1>between the Egyptians and the Hittites, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very important place for its time, and so a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of its mythology really held strong even past the

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<v Speaker 1>fall of the Hittites, even past the fall of the Egyptians,

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<v Speaker 1>even past the fall of the Selucidians. All of those

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<v Speaker 1>mythologies really does shape the conscious mind of what we

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<v Speaker 1>are today. And it all comes through this trading network

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<v Speaker 1>on that eastern coastline of the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is my symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you guys want to know more about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>look up agent ugar at myths and you'll find so.

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<v Speaker 3>Much stuff on the Bible. It's incredible. So what do

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<v Speaker 3>we have for our mail bag this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, all right, so this is let's see.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was somebody I think that might be sending

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<v Speaker 4>you one on what they did in time.

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<v Speaker 2>I do know the least one that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>go to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's try to say I talked to you about

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<v Speaker 4>possible guests for the show too.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, right, So I got this one from Douglas.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, Hello the occult rejects, thank you for the

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<v Speaker 1>great work, oh headless, thank you for reading this, Sincerely,

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<v Speaker 1>DRII it would be my humble honor to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about my experience with the plasma or beings or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we are calling them these days. This is not only

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<v Speaker 1>mystical or paranormal experience, so let me know if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know more. I would rather speak than write.

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<v Speaker 1>This took me a long time to try and make readable.

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<v Speaker 1>Scene Seattle, Washington, summer of two thousand and seven, late summer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hot as hell. I lived in a loft

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<v Speaker 1>in a warehouse at the bottom floor of an old

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<v Speaker 1>brick building built in nineteen ten, part of the town

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<v Speaker 1>Capitol Hill, down the block from Comet Tavern. I was

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<v Speaker 1>known at this time to have connections to certain substances

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<v Speaker 1>and would trade them for other material substances. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that, as we know, people like to party anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>I say this only so that you can comprehend the

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<v Speaker 1>position I was in, because I'm pretty sure it's universal.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have these types of things, people tend to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with you a lot more than if they

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<v Speaker 1>were really your friends. A majority of people tend to

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<v Speaker 1>turn out to be yes men when they want something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as if the people seem to fail to organize

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<v Speaker 1>our higher desires in harmonic reality, look beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>The desires of our transient state. Very true.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the early afternoon on this hot day

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<v Speaker 1>in Seattle. I was out making deliveries and ran into

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<v Speaker 1>my here too remain nameless friend. He had tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>a rock show and demanded I come with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>do my work, he does his hours later getting it lit.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were off to see Radio Birdman this night,

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<v Speaker 1>and the falling experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>Changed my life forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Birdman a garage rock group that supposedly influenced Iggy

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<v Speaker 1>Pop's style, while Iggy got all the faming credit. As

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<v Speaker 1>the flow goes, I guess at the show a small club.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember which club we were at. Regardless, we

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<v Speaker 1>got really into the music. In between, buzzed and excited,

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<v Speaker 1>I wandered off on my own, the musical performance actually

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<v Speaker 1>giving rise in me to carefree dance. To say the least,

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<v Speaker 1>Merging with the crowd has always been awkward and foreign

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<v Speaker 1>as it is with all men, this was different. I

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<v Speaker 1>gave in subtly to dancing. I felt a shift in

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<v Speaker 1>the energy in the room, as I've noticed at other

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<v Speaker 1>shows in the past when the crowds water merges in

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<v Speaker 1>adoration for whatever the focus of the gathering. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, I saw a small point of light leave

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<v Speaker 1>the guitarist's body, which began flying and spinning around. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>it noticed me and came right over. We merged and

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<v Speaker 1>continued dancing. Flashback two thousand and three or so, San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>Water Street, Fisherman's Wharf.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there before. I had seen these orbs before once.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only when I got a room of people

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<v Speaker 1>to play wild improvisational music somewhat raptured into a state

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<v Speaker 1>from around the sparkle, emanating from a genuinely blissful smile.

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<v Speaker 1>I took all of this in from the room and

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<v Speaker 1>to blissful expressions of fun. This memory is why I

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<v Speaker 1>back to Seattle after the show, with a new friend

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<v Speaker 1>my street looking suspicious. Unnecessarily, who knows. We began the

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<v Speaker 1>trek back buying cases of beer from the store. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>on paper so I can introduce the ORBS. It is

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<v Speaker 1>important that I collect people that power the event. What

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how hard this experience would be to achieve on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting close to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>We arrived roommates in bed three am in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>It was dark. We were drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>out while getting acquainted with the guy that tagged along

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<v Speaker 1>with me from the show. We were arguing about the

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<v Speaker 1>differences of punk versus rock and rock and roll. At

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point in any conversation with the human being,

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<v Speaker 1>or so of them to stay and play music with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though a lot of these bodies and names may

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<v Speaker 1>I did not realize this was important then see Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>McTaggart's work. Somehow I dealt with all of the interruptions

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<v Speaker 1>call short deliveries, the bar roommates, and bodily fluids like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember three long days of wild and frantic music.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically having to kidnap a certain keys musically able body

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<v Speaker 1>long term effects on their relationships. Sorry, guys, how it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I had to feed them a

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<v Speaker 1>hefty amount of free party supplies, which I was up for.

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<v Speaker 1>I covered my bottom line. I do remember the middle

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<v Speaker 1>seeing my roommates briefly and giving them a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>It must have bought me some time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a group of around eight people, all

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to one task, playing live music. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>hardest and I probably worked in my life, all the

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<v Speaker 1>distractions and reasonable people never putting music first. For me

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<v Speaker 1>to show my determination and stick to the task is

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<v Speaker 1>shocking to me. The orb from the guitarist must have

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<v Speaker 1>inspired me. It takes a lot of confidence in oneself

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<v Speaker 1>to organize a bunch of sarcastic atheists. I usually been

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<v Speaker 1>giving up this inspiration, but this time I didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>pulled this off. Whatever it was, we played like the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>felt like time. Nah, it did not resemble time within

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<v Speaker 1>the vortex of the pressure waves produced by a continuous song. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>after long long, it was I could keep up and

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<v Speaker 1>stop playing. The room's music kept being generated. I had

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<v Speaker 1>them sustaining their focus, completely undistracted by all of our

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<v Speaker 1>pre existing habits. I didn't know it before, but it

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<v Speaker 1>made sense. Then This was success. So I put down

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<v Speaker 1>my guitar and began to rise. I raised my arms

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<v Speaker 1>beside my head, and what was kind of known as

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<v Speaker 1>the hecka posed and looked up to the ceiling. We

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<v Speaker 1>disrupted the fabric of the beginning above my head. In

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling, I could see clouds forming, glowing, and expanding

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<v Speaker 1>into a ring. Within this ring, the night sky, or

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<v Speaker 1>a night sky filled with stars could be seen. As

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up a maze that looked down to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure folks kept playing. I could only see joy on

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<v Speaker 1>their faces. And then the clouds kept growing and the

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<v Speaker 1>stars began approaching. Two particular came in real close to

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the cloud. I say hello with my

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<v Speaker 1>mind and welcome them to join us. With this, I

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<v Speaker 1>extended my arms in an arc towards the scene still

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<v Speaker 1>unfolding before me. I could see small white orbs materializing

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<v Speaker 1>from the glare in the eyes, the reflective shimmer, and

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<v Speaker 1>from this space surrounding their smiles where some people have dimples.

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<v Speaker 1>The two exes rising up and flying about. The little

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<v Speaker 1>one's bions played.

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<v Speaker 3>As we played.

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<v Speaker 1>No one else seemed to notice this. I looked up

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<v Speaker 1>again to see two orbs light and beautiful, cool plasma blue.

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<v Speaker 1>They seemed to be whispering to each other. By the

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<v Speaker 1>look of the subtle oscillations as they shimmered in alternating codes,

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<v Speaker 1>it appeared to me that they called over a third

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<v Speaker 1>orb to come and look at our little party. The

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<v Speaker 1>third orb and the clouds and I were now aligned.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like he moved or the room moved. I

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<v Speaker 3>really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't quote me on this, okay, because maybe I suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>had yeah, suddenly had a three D view, because remember

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<v Speaker 1>both sides like two panoramas.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry not sorry. It was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight into my crown, A beam of blue light shot

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<v Speaker 1>into my mind. Thousands or millions of pages of a

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<v Speaker 1>document poured into me. A strange language of circles, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like crop circles, exactly like crop circles, expanded through me.

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<v Speaker 1>I could sense that what I was receiving information that

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<v Speaker 1>sex was the same thing as communication, that we as

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<v Speaker 1>a society really don't understand anything. I could feel all

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<v Speaker 1>the knowledge now surrounding me. This process was ongoing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I began lowering my eyes to a different sensation. We

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<v Speaker 1>were about to be interrupt Apparently my roommates had had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>My door bust open. Music machine people stopped, completely shutting down.

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<v Speaker 1>The light beamed mid transmission. I looked at what became

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<v Speaker 1>one of my roommate's eyes. The orbs and the clouds vanished,

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<v Speaker 1>as if frightened by the vibe coming through my open

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<v Speaker 1>room door. The anger was pouring from her glasses was molten.

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<v Speaker 1>It was chewable. I looked again to the orbs, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were completely gone. She berating us or whatever uptight

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<v Speaker 1>people that got to work in the morning and live

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<v Speaker 1>normal lives like to do. The eight people started pouring

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<v Speaker 1>out quietly, laughing. Like many times in my past. It

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<v Speaker 1>was chaotic and awkward, but I believed in what I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing way more than my nine or five, so

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<v Speaker 1>I probably seemed very rude at the time. Me and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guitarists grabbed our instruments and hit the road,

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<v Speaker 1>playing music through the streets. For a day or two

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<v Speaker 1>till we returning to work. There is more, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to the story of the negative encounter with spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>just seems hypothetical and forced upon the experience by reflection

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<v Speaker 1>and research. It all happened after the orb phenomena, so

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps it should be viewed as separate. I will send

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<v Speaker 1>a second email for what requires still editing.

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<v Speaker 3>Simple warning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the knowledge received by this interaction expands upon

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<v Speaker 1>the hypothesis and other experiences forming in this It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about music and water. Maybe I could come on the

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<v Speaker 1>show and share the rest rather than spend two months

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<v Speaker 1>trying as my writing goes, none has ever tried to

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<v Speaker 1>read my writing aloud. Love the show, cheers Douglas.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yeah, what are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 4>Like a wild story? I think if the person is

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<v Speaker 4>willing to come on and be interesting to hear that

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<v Speaker 4>that was a lot and not complaining like that, like

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<v Speaker 4>what they said, that must have taken a while, right,

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<v Speaker 4>That is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but just kind of brings me back to the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient world because they had these jams going on for

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<v Speaker 1>days at a time to bring them into.

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<v Speaker 2>These like ecstatic states.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly divine madness. They talk about it all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And one of the things about Anatolia is

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<v Speaker 1>this is where Dionysus came from. So all of this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Turkey influence in degreece created this Dionysiac way

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, communicating using this sort of divine madness.

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<v Speaker 4>It was I actually have. I mean I think like

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<v Speaker 4>in a month and a half, eventually they'll drop. I

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<v Speaker 4>have like Robert Flood and Marsilia Facino that I did

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<v Speaker 4>like solo shows on myself, and both of them were

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<v Speaker 4>huge into music as like they think it can heal,

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<v Speaker 4>they think it can help have an experience with God.

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<v Speaker 4>Like they were huge into believing that music would would

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<v Speaker 4>you do stuff to the body.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he's doing is he's kind of combining the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of affect with music and then using the affect

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<v Speaker 1>that it creates over a long period of time and

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<v Speaker 1>getting it precise into the exact sort of feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to get out of it. Because I think

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of people find when they're doing music

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<v Speaker 1>is that sometimes the way people feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Are influencing the music in ways that they probably don't,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, expect. Just want to say thank you. John

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Ferguson for the five dollars, thank you. So if

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<v Speaker 3>they get.

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<v Speaker 1>Into this groove, they have this affect and they're building

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<v Speaker 1>upon it, it almost seems like they're opening up a

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>It devotion. What are your thoughts, Nick, I know you've

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<v Speaker 3>been to a few raves.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no, I mean I find it interesting finally,

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<v Speaker 4>like just the fact that like you went like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very interesting thing. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if that's like it was just the thing that

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<v Speaker 4>they did. Is that a movement that they would normally?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>That's like because that's like a thing that I would

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<v Speaker 4>I would do in certain rituals.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting that the person makes that pose during that

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing. It just seems very uh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>wild you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, well he said another pose too.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't exactly recognize it. Let me see, uh extended

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<v Speaker 1>in an arc.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the ideas of the stars and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I found that interesting, right, So the ceiling opened up?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that yeah, that that part, that

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<v Speaker 4>part I was actually like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>That was interesting?

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<v Speaker 3>So the heck a pose have you Do you recognize

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<v Speaker 3>that pose?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm wondering if it's no.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not exactly sure, but I've heard of it, like

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<v Speaker 4>I might actually know what it is, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>exactly sure.

429
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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the Egyptian word for their frog deity

430
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<v Speaker 1>h e k A oh jinks.

431
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<v Speaker 4>They don't really have like the finger of them looks

432
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<v Speaker 4>like it's like the silence.

433
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<v Speaker 3>It's the figure of the mouth, that's right, the finger

434
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<v Speaker 3>of the mouth.

435
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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was even that Like, it's just it

436
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<v Speaker 2>just seems very.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Just like certain things just seem pretty pretty weird, Like

438
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<v Speaker 4>these are ritual poses.

439
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<v Speaker 2>That's the sign of silence. That's that's done in the

440
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<v Speaker 2>same ritual where I said, you go this very interesting.

441
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it just seems very interesting that all of that

442
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<v Speaker 4>is is there with the situation going on in some

443
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<v Speaker 4>form somehow. You know, what I'm saying may not even

444
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<v Speaker 4>been intentional. It's just interesting how these things, those those

445
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<v Speaker 4>body movements popped up in a situation.

446
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<v Speaker 3>Like this, right, and you've you've also got.

447
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, who's that guy, the one who had his discourses

448
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<v Speaker 1>on colors and dance? He was bald, had the big

449
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<v Speaker 1>old mustache. He came from like Russia. I believe he

450
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<v Speaker 1>ran away from the UH, the communists.

451
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<v Speaker 3>God, what's his name? I should know his name.

452
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<v Speaker 1>It's the one that the UH, the the cult out

453
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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco with the wine and the delivery.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, you know that guy? Oh God, that.

455
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<v Speaker 3>What's his name?

456
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<v Speaker 4>The guy from the Fellowship of Friends. I can't remember

457
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<v Speaker 4>his name.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Though, right, but it was based off of the work.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Of Oh Gerd Jeff. Yes, yes, yes, we go.

460
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

461
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<v Speaker 2>He was huge with music too, Yeah, right.

462
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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a very Gourd Jeffy in experience. So

463
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<v Speaker 1>if Donald, if you're watching this, Douglas, look into ger

464
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff because he was all about that sort of stuff.

465
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<v Speaker 1>If you want to have a repeat experience.

466
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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the Gerdia.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Method leads a lot of people to understanding things that

468
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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't. You know, it's just like this repetition, the

469
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 1>idea of this dancing and using the mental states that

470
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>come from that are very powerful and sort of expanding

471
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<v Speaker 1>the understanding. So using that gurgiaf method is really powerful

472
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<v Speaker 1>in those regards. And you know, there's a reason why

473
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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff from Gurdjief keeps being used.

474
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<v Speaker 3>Over and over again. Yeah, there was even so good.

475
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if this is part of it, but

476
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<v Speaker 4>there's a cult that I was going to cover eventually.

477
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<v Speaker 2>The value that one. I think it's cool.

478
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<v Speaker 4>And I actually have a clip with Bramovich there and

479
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<v Speaker 4>I know they were this. This cult was also big

480
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<v Speaker 4>with like performances I think too in music and sound

481
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.279
<v Speaker 4>and shit. And she had said that she thought that

482
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<v Speaker 4>there was like she was just labeling different type of

483
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 4>symbolism and occultism or ideas that she sees blended in there.

484
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<v Speaker 2>And she did mention Gurdja. So I wonder has anything

485
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<v Speaker 2>to do with the music.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're going to organize something like that, maybe

487
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 1>do it away from your roommates and do it with

488
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who are into it.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Probably won't have to go for days to get the

490
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 3>same reaction. But I think I think.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Having sort of like have you ever heard of the

492
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<v Speaker 1>ConA power ritual the Wickeds? Yes?

493
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

494
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<v Speaker 4>You know a lot of magicians and whitches will use

495
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 4>music and play the role that is like a way

496
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<v Speaker 4>to raise the power. That is a common thing, right,

497
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 4>especially if you're doing like something Marshall definitely gonna want

498
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<v Speaker 4>some like tribal beats going.

499
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<v Speaker 1>And I think the eight is also an important factor

500
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 1>here too, because that's how you're getting the complete circle

501
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the octave.

502
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I like it man.

503
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

504
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's that's all I got for today.

505
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<v Speaker 1>I thought I had another one, but that was actually

506
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<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah that was from uh scheduled interview I

507
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>got coming up on the twenty ninth.

508
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<v Speaker 4>Oh well that's I mean, that's that was That was

509
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 4>long enough to anyway, right, right, that was good.

510
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, definitely even like another one to get the person on.

511
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, I'd love to have them on This would be great.

512
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I think there needs to be

513
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a mechanic course, right, So if you're

514
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>designing rituals, if you're trying to do these things, you

515
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>should have like a trained professional that gets in there,

516
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 1>gets people in their positions and says, all right, now go,

517
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, because far too often if you don't have

518
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the right mindset, if you don't have the right guy directing,

519
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have a good experience. Like this guy,

520
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>he had to direct all these people for days doing

521
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a jam band and probably would it wouldn't have taken

522
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>so long if you'd had the right commitment and the

523
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>right you know, mechanic doing the doing the placement. You know,

524
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but you know that has a lot to do with

525
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<v Speaker 1>everything else that can get in the way.

526
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Ritual.

527
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, you've got to have your dark side under lock.

528
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to want to have people who have

529
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this extreme paranoia associated with all these drugs and everything

530
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 1>that you're slipping out to everybody, and you're probably not

531
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 1>going to want to have the burning rage of your roommates.

532
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Just find.

533
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 3>There's music coercion.

534
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe in some cases, yeah, use music can be

535
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 1>used as a coercive influence.

536
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<v Speaker 2>That's why I said, Okay, I think it can be

537
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>if you want it to be right, Yeah, right. I

538
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>mean maybe it is a general regardless. I don't who knows.

539
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>As as our friend Ricardo was saying, you know, if

540
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 1>you were to take the experience of a rave and

541
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>then give that to a shaman, you'd be like, you're

542
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.839
<v Speaker 1>lucky you made it out with your head on your shoulder.

543
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Especially with all the drugs you just too well, it

544
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 2>was there to take if you wanted to.

545
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 1>You take all these drugs and you sit around here

546
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you dance around until all the spirits can possess you.

547
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of you probably dehydrate yourself just as much

548
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 4>as like one of those those things that they go

549
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 4>into that people pass out in.

550
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I forgot the name of it, all.

551
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, Mally's going to dehydrate the fuck.

552
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is.

553
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why they charge it, you know what, like

554
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 1>fifteen dollars for a water bottle at these events.

555
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 3>But you know, gotta look out, you know what that

556
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 3>gh be in there.

557
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 1>But I think, uh, I think, yeah, this is a

558
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.279
<v Speaker 1>good event. I'll email him back and said if we

559
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>can get him on the show again. But if you

560
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>got anything else, anything to promote, I think that would

561
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>be a good time to do that.

562
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<v Speaker 2>Uh No, let me see what I have. What we

563
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>have coming out next week. I don't know I really

564
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 2>have anything to prove.

565
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh, we do have some Shumerian deities. You were on that,

566
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 4>we got that ed you were on that. I think

567
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 4>were you on the Coral Castle went too?

568
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember.

569
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I was yeah, all right.

570
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>So the next two shows next week, Wednesday and Friday,

571
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 4>we got me and we got Headless Giant, and we

572
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 4>got other people joining us. But we got Sumerian Shumerian Deities,

573
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 4>which I thought actually was an amazing show.

574
00:30:58.200 --> 00:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>With great pill podcast.

575
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 4>I think we do have something set up with him

576
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 4>or ready to cover something else together. And then we

577
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 4>had the Coral Castle with the Library of the Untold

578
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 4>fucking awesome dude, amazing fucking channel. It was amazing that

579
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 4>the guy even came on the fucking show with us.

580
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 4>It was a bunch of us together, had a really

581
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 4>good time talking about Coral Castle. Fucking Robbie Marks, lucky motherfucker,

582
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 4>was there just a few days ago, sending pictures to us,

583
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 4>putting them up on Twitter, went to Coral Castle. Good

584
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 4>for him. But uh yeah, yeah, we got those two

585
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 4>shows dropping next week. I think they're very very good

586
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 4>shows actually, So people keep an eye over that.

587
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And if you guys live in the Florida area and

588
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you do play instruments and you're okay with some light trespassing,

589
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe we can all go to the Coral Castle and

590
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>open up a portal ourselves.

591
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll try to do that on Mountain Pilot. Oh,

592
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I forgot all about that. I forgot all about that,

593
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>So I gotta fill it up paperwork. I've been so

594
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>stuck in notes for podcast thing.

595
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 4>I totally forgot about that, but yeah, yeah, yeah there

596
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 4>could be something who knows that might happen to.

597
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Man. I mean, see, that's the thing.

598
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 1>People very rarely introduced, like formal magic into their paranormal

599
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>research because they're like, oh, that's just people doing stuff.

600
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, yeah, but that's how these things are

601
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>coming through. It's through your perception and your ability to

602
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, connect with them. So why are we doing that?

603
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is what all the ancient oracles were

604
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>all about, this very thing right here we're talking about.

605
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 4>I do even think like, like you put it this

606
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 4>way and that to bring him up again. But like

607
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 4>even the stuff that Ricardo looks at, I think like,

608
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 4>if you're looking at that, I think that explained. That

609
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 4>can explain to a certain extent why people think magic

610
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>even exists, Like this is the explanation for the weird

611
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 4>shit you don't understand, you know, it's just I think

612
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 4>there is some of that there.

613
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>So it all has to do with frequency.

614
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I think far too many people have this idea that

615
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 1>paranormal stuff takes place outside of the body and not

616
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 1>inside the body, Like you are the mystery.

617
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, you say it all the time, but right,

618
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it's both.

619
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 1>But you're the mystery too, and connecting with that is

620
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 1>very very important.

621
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

622
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that huge difference, doing that huge difference, right,

623
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, yeah again, check it out next week.

624
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Definitely got some bangers. I don't think you call rejects

625
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 2>hells is there? All right?

626
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you everybody for joining me, and we're at

627
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<v Speaker 1>thirty three minutes, so that that's the time.

628
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<v Speaker 3>To beat all right. We'll see you again next time. Bye, everybody.
