1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: The Florida Football Insiders podcast is brought to you by 2 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:08,560 Titan Home Lending Ticket Smarter, Ghost Sleeves and Drew Fellios 3 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:11,439 are Florida realtor. Enjoy the podcast. 4 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: A look at college football news, analysis and insights from 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,359 around the Sunshine Stage. This is Florida Football Insiders, a 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,480 part of the College Gridiron Coast. 7 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: To Coast podcast Network. 8 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: And here's your host, Jason Cowers. 9 00:00:35,679 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: All Right, welcome in post Halloween edition. November is here edition, 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,560 Week eleven edition of the Florida Football Insider's podcast, part 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,359 of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast Network. I'm 12 00:00:49,359 --> 00:00:51,920 your host, Jason down in Tampa. We had a very 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,520 eventful week in the United States of America. Lots of 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:01,799 stuff going on, NFL trade deadline, something called an election, 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,200 and lots and lots of stuff going on in the 16 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:07,959 college football world. The college football rankings came out for 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,799 the first time on the Tuesday, so lots to talk 18 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:13,319 about here from a Tuesday night and the week that was. 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,280 And we're gonna do a little different this week, and 20 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:18,599 no recap by me. We're gonna TJ Reeves, my guy 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Buccaneer Radio network, very dialed in around the state of Florida. 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,560 He hosts bet USTv. He hosts boxing podcast, College Football Stuff. 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,680 Big twelve your morning host on the Big twelve. We're 24 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:35,959 gonna let him plug that here every Saturday morning. So 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,879 we're gonna we're gonna do a little popourri around the 26 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:40,120 state of Florida. We're gonna hit the college teams, We're 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,439 gonna hit the NFL teams. Lots to talk about here 28 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:45,439 in the state of Florida, mister Reeves, Welcome. 29 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: In, sir, Hey listen. It's always great to be with you, 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,599 and we have no shortage of subject matter, that's for sure. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,599 Thank you for all the plugs. Again, I probably have 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,000 too many hats, figuratively and literally. If you're watching this 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,280 on the YouTube page, you see hats over my shoulder. 34 00:01:58,599 --> 00:02:00,959 Speaker 1: Tell people about the Big twelve s on Saturday. 35 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Right, So on Saturdays it's ramping up. 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Now. 37 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:07,239 Speaker 4: I do a three hour pregame show for Big twelve 38 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:10,080 Radio on tune In, And obviously for this audience, it 39 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:12,960 has to do with the UCF Knights. But why have 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,879 they not been playing that kid at quarterback after last 41 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:18,960 week and what they did to Arizona. I know he's 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 a former walk on. But good lord. So anyway, we 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,400 talked Big twelve, and just like we thought, the Big 44 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,159 twelve has been all about Brigham Young and Iowa State 45 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:30,800 to this point in the season, not Utah who was 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,439 preseason top ten, not Oklandahoma State, not Kansas State. So 47 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,120 we have a lot of fun talking Big twelve while 48 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:41,719 we bring it back to Florida. Rocko Becked obviously, who 49 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:43,639 you've talked about a lot, the son of Anthony Beck, 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,199 the former first round pick of the Jets four buccaneer 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,159 tight end. I had a long distinguished career in the NFL, 52 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:52,639 now broadcaster in the NFL. I've known the Becks for 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,719 twenty plus years. I've known Rocos since before he was 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,879 even in grade school. And Iowa State had such a 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,879 magical season going and they somehow let Texas Tech come 56 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:07,840 in and beat them last week. I still can't figure out. 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,919 You didn't ask me this, and we'll move on quickly. 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: How did he get out of the state of Florida. 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: With all the programs that we have here, from USF 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,919 to UCF even. 61 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:21,319 Speaker 3: Yes, how did he get. 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,439 Speaker 4: Out of the state of Florida. I heard some of 63 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:27,039 the rationale was they were concerned that he wasn't big 64 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,439 enough coming out of Wiregrass Ranch High School in the 65 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:33,960 suburbs of North Tampa. Does he look big enough right 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,560 now at the Big Twelve, as he's one of the 67 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,360 better quarterbacks right now in the Big Twelve leading them 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,400 to a seven to zero start. 69 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Please, so thank you for the Big Twelve plug. That 70 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:46,439 show is on tune in free to hear the tune. 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: In mobile app, the Big twelve Radio channel every Saturday 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,240 morning nine am to noon Eastern eight to eleven AM Central. 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:59,159 I preview all the games, guests, analysts, coaches, former coaches, players, 74 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:03,039 former players. We have all kinds of content previewing all 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,439 the action talking Big twelve. 76 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:05,639 Speaker 3: Thank you for the plug and the. 77 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Last plug I gotta give him if you're watching this 78 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,879 on the YouTube channel. He hooked me up with the 79 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,039 old school creamccle hat from a couple of weeks ago. 80 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:16,199 Speaker 3: Home game Cream the Buccaneers, the. 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons and the Bucks. I asked him, I said, hey, man, 82 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:21,319 I can't go to the game. Can you hook me 83 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,959 up with a hat? And he delivered. So appreciate it. 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: I always take care of my people, but I'm now 85 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:30,639 like conflicted. Do we need to put the creamsicle stuff 86 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:32,920 anymore on for the Buccaneers when they can't ever win 87 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:33,879 the creamsicle game. 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,319 Speaker 3: I mean and stuff. 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: The stuff looks good, but it just has too much 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,040 bad karma from the eighties and the early to mid 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,199 nineties of too much losing apparently. 92 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: Uh, but that's okay. I had to I had to deliver. 93 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: I had to come strong from my guy Jason Powers 94 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:50,920 and Florida football insiders. 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,399 Speaker 3: So a little Bucko Bruce hat. 96 00:04:52,199 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: For you on the YouTube if you're if you're only 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,600 hearing us, come see the hat on the YouTube page. 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: There you go, and I'm gonna on the fly change 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,720 the logo from the from the Powers on Sports podcast 100 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:03,079 to the Floridas. 101 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: Look at you, You're just you're just versatile. Yes, you're agile, 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,720 mobile and versatile. Continue on, my friend. 103 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the cocktail party again. Let's 104 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:12,600 we're just gonna go through the State of Florida games 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,480 last week, recap, a couple of things, a couple of 106 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,759 interesting notes and nuggets we're gonna get to, and then 107 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:20,399 we're gonna hit the NFL teams, uh, Bucks, Jaggs, Dolphins. 108 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:24,480 So Florida Georgia again. What you know, everybody thought a 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,879 month ago Billy Napier was dead man walking. And get 110 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,680 to Billy Napier's credit, this team has played really hard 111 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,439 the last month. They from the bye week, they you 112 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,639 know Lagway his you know, obviously Merch got hurt. Lagway's 113 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:37,639 played pretty well. He got hurt in the Georgia game. 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Probably gonna be out the rest of the regular season, 115 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:40,920 I would guess. 116 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 117 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: We can interject on that here in a second, but 118 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,040 continue on with your build up. 119 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Go yep and uh they if Lagway plays in that game, 120 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:52,600 the entire game on Saturday in Jacksonville, they might have 121 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:54,879 a great opportunity to win the game. They just ran 122 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,079 out of ammunition. Third string guy comes in. You know, 123 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,560 the defense wore down a little bit. Georgia did not 124 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:04,160 play well back to continues to throw interceptions. But give 125 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:08,040 that Florida team credit. They continue hard for Napier there 126 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:12,319 to start the gauntlet. Now Georgia loot loss at Texas 127 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,360 lsu Ole miss than Florida State to finish it up. 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,839 Just give me a thought about Billy Napier. Is it 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,480 dead man walking? Is here still hope? Just give me 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,399 a thow what you think. 131 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,439 Speaker 4: Well, we talked a couple of times, a couple of 132 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,399 weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago, that this is coming 133 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:31,399 with Tennessee and Georgia, like you listed, Ole Miss, Texas, 134 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,120 my God, Lsu and then the rivalry game with Florida 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,879 State and who knew that Florida State turns out to 136 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:37,839 be horrific and that may be the most winnable game 137 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:40,199 even though it's on the road. You're right, they're still 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,639 playing hard for him. But at the end of the day, 139 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,000 if you're losing all of these games, that's still the ammunition. 140 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,439 Speaker 3: To get rid of him. 141 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,639 Speaker 4: I think I think he needs at least a couple 142 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:54,439 of more wins to have a chance. How do they 143 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,959 get those couple of more wins out of Texas, Ole Miss, 144 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,079 who's got firepower? 145 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: Galore, Lsu, who's good? 146 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,879 Speaker 4: I don't know where those wins are before Florida State 147 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:08,040 if there is a win. So to answer that part 148 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,959 of the question, I don't think playing what. 149 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:10,319 Speaker 3: Do you think? 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,839 Speaker 4: I don't think playing hard for him is good enough 151 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:15,360 to save him. If this ends up being like four 152 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,120 and eight in year number three. 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,639 Speaker 1: It's tricky. You're right, it's totally tricky. They're probably gonna 154 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:21,480 beat Florida State, so that gives him win number five. 155 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:23,240 They need to win one out of the next three, 156 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:26,600 assuming you give him the Florida State game to get 157 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:30,399 Bowl eligible. I would say probably the LSU game is 158 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,399 the game they could win. I don't know if I 159 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:34,839 can't remember if that game's at home or in Baton Rouge. 160 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:37,279 If it's at home, it's winnable. I know the Old 161 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:41,959 Miss game is at home, So I think LSU's the game. 162 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,720 I think of those three that's most winnable, especially if 163 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,319 LSU were to lose to Alabama this week and out 164 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:51,360 pretty much out of the CFP. That's the other part 165 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,480 of If LSU and Ole Miss are still in it, 166 00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:55,959 that's gonna make it even more. But you're right, it's 167 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,639 a tough call here. Do you give Napier another year 168 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,839 for playing hard? They seem like they you know, Lagways 169 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:04,560 seems like he's a pretty good player. 170 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: Again, So the update the update on that. And you know, 171 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:10,240 I saw this at the time and I thought it 172 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:13,240 was strange. I'm not an orthopedist. I'm just pointing this 173 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,279 out on Florida Football insiders. He was grabbing his hamstring, 174 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,959 all right, and then they brought the cart out and 175 00:08:19,079 --> 00:08:23,000 usually that's reserved for horrific injury. Uh so they they 176 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,720 come over, all the teammates are coming over like his 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,839 season is over. And Billy Napier said on his Monday 178 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:33,240 press conference, he's gonna try to practice. We don't believe 179 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,360 it's that serious. And I'm going, you don't believe it's 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,080 that serious. 181 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:36,799 Speaker 3: The kid. 182 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: The kid laid on the ground and you brought the 183 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,440 cart for him for a hamstring, right, And now the 184 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,720 word is he's not ruled out for the Texas game. 185 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,159 Maybe that's some gamesmanship, but I don't think Lagway's out 186 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:52,559 for the year because why does why does Billy Napier 187 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:54,000 have to say that, or why are they trying to 188 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,679 practice him right now this week when it appears to 189 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,960 be a lost season anyway, So that was a bit strange. 190 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:03,480 They've got to walk on quarterback. You were kind, Carson 191 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:06,240 Beck was awful. They were trying Georgia to give that 192 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,519 a game away, and for them, that would thick to 193 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,240 give that game away to Florida. In terms of the 194 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,039 college football playoff et cetera, et cetera, rivalry games, Jason 195 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,320 and that was a rivalry game on Saturday, Florida hung In. 196 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,000 I just again back to the theme, I don't know 197 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:24,039 what's good enough to play tough, hang in, lose close. 198 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:27,159 If they keep losing these games, that's probably the end 199 00:09:27,159 --> 00:09:27,679 for Napier. 200 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,519 Speaker 1: Go ahead, and I would say the other part of 201 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:31,799 this equation is who can they get to say yes 202 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,840 to the job. That's the other part of this too. 203 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:35,240 That might dictate if. 204 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 4: You've been big on Lane Kiffin Lane as maybe the guy. 205 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,360 But I mean they won't. They won't have a shortage 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,360 of people that are interested. 207 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: I like Matt Campbell and Iowa State potentially. 208 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: Sure, you know, by the way, the LSU game is 209 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,919 the following week, now next week, and it is a 210 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,000 home game. To answer your questions, they get LSU and 211 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:56,960 Ole Miss at home before ending. 212 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: At Florida State for the Florida Games. 213 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: So I mean, so again, tricky, Here's what I'll say. Napier, 214 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,879 who will have no chance to be gets blown out 215 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:06,559 a couple times. But if you were playing competitive, maybe 216 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,080 win one of those st three. 217 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,759 Speaker 4: Maybe you know there is maybe they played they played 218 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:14,759 tough at Tennessee. They played better when they won two 219 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,480 or three games after the awful start. But again, I 220 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,000 know enough big time donating Gators. You know some too, 221 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,000 And these people were over him back in September, over 222 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:28,399 as in, get rid of him. So I don't know 223 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,320 how much of those minds have been changed. We shall 224 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,559 see on the Gators. What else, what else? 225 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to Miami Saturday. I'm watching the games in 226 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,039 a sports bar. Five minutes into the third quarter. Duke's 227 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,120 up eleven in the in the. 228 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: College, and you're texting me and you're going, You're going, 229 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:48,840 Miami's in real trouble, down eleven in the third quarter. 230 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: I didn't disagree with you. I cut it on. 231 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: An hour later, they were covering the twenty two points ahead. 232 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,639 Speaker 3: What did they what did they outscore them? 233 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:03,519 Speaker 4: Thirty to three, thirty six to three run to. 234 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,159 Speaker 1: End the game about twenty four minutes. 235 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: And cam Ward didn't even play great. He had a 236 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,120 couple of interceptions. He didn't play great. They're just so explosive, 237 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,519 and Duke threw a couple of bad interceptions which helped them. 238 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:21,159 And now we're all the way to mid November and 239 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Miami is undefeated. 240 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Let's not well. 241 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:27,519 Speaker 4: Now, let's let's not pretend Miami has been right here 242 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,159 about seven or eight years ago with Mark ript getting 243 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,559 getting all the way to like November to the eight 244 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:36,279 to nine to oh Mark and didn't get in the 245 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:41,519 fourteen College Football Playoff. But right now, escape the fail 246 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:45,279 Mary game Fail Mary part two against Virginia Tech, where 247 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,519 once again the Virginia Tech guy on the Hail Mary 248 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,000 caught the ball and is on the ground and they 249 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,480 ruled touchdown and then they overruled the ball being taken 250 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:57,720 from him on the ground or else. Miami loses. It's 251 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:00,120 the last play of the game. They come back from 252 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:04,159 twenty five down at Cal to win that game, so. 253 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: They've lived a little dangerously. 254 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: But here are the Canes right now in the prime 255 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,200 position to be in the College Football Playoff. 256 00:12:10,879 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: And they get another bright Clemson loses their second conference game, 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,200 so you're probably not gonna see Clemson in the title game. 258 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,240 You're probably gonna see an SMU, maybe a bit somebody 259 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,679 like that, probably an SMU, which again favors Miami. Is 260 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,480 this deep again? Two tricky road games left at Tech 261 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,399 this week and at Syracuse in a couple of weeks. 262 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Is this defense? We know the offense is good enough, 263 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:38,679 We know cam Ward's Heisman Trophy top two or three guaranteed. 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,159 Is this defense national championship good enough in your opinion? 265 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: I mean, you watched that col game, for example, they 266 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,519 were all over them, and again Duke for the first 267 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:52,559 two and a half quarters was taking it to them 268 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,279 as well. And I was looking, what is the other 269 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,039 remaining game you mentioned the road games. The other remaining 270 00:12:57,039 --> 00:12:59,399 game is Wake Forest, who they're gonna probably easily beat. 271 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,399 And this is an early start with Georgia Tech Saturday. Obviously, 272 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,759 they began the year by beating Florida State, but have 273 00:13:06,879 --> 00:13:10,720 not done very much since then. They're five well, I mean, 274 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:13,120 we can't sell them completely short. They're five and four. 275 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,159 They've lost the last two, losing to Virginia Tech and 276 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Notre Dame. Georgia Tech has I don't know. I mean 277 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,200 it looks good. Remember that Mark Rick team slipped losing 278 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:29,679 the Black Friday game to Pitt. Speaking of Pitt, that's 279 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,120 where they slipped and lost. They had beaten Notre Dame, 280 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,480 who was in the top ten at hard Rock Stadium. 281 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:37,159 Speaker 3: They were then ranked in the top four. 282 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: The College Football Playoff, and then Pitt beat them right 283 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,639 at the end of the regular season on Black Friday, 284 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,279 and I want to say that that led to them 285 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,159 getting beaten badly by Clemson in the ACC title game, 286 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,159 and then they lost the bowl game and that put 287 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,360 them on the radar to maybe fire Mark Ricked. So 288 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 that season ended badly. Miami doesn't want to replay of that. 289 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,799 Speaker 1: Have the opportunity to, in theory, to lose one before 290 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:05,240 the end and still win the ACC title. So you 291 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,480 got a little leeway. But again, they came out number 292 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,360 four in the initial CFP rankings last on Tuesday night. 293 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,000 So again, remember eight, the winner of the a SEC 294 00:14:14,159 --> 00:14:16,480 is guaranteed the top four seed. You're probably gonna be 295 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:19,440 the four seed, probably maybe the three, but probably the 296 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:22,080 you know, three or four seed at best. So in theory, 297 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Miami could in theory slip up and still win the conference. 298 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,879 But again, to me, this is gonna be a team 299 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:29,840 where they're gonna have to win these games in the 300 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,639 playoffs late in the year. Here high scoring. It's gonna 301 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:34,799 be thirty eight to thirty. You're gonna have to outscore 302 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,039 teams as opposed to keeping them to twenty four. 303 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: You know, let's see, let's see if that can continue 304 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,279 for them, and we do know this. It's gonna jumble 305 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,919 five more times over the next four or five weeks, 306 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:47,399 including the championship games. On December seventh, it'll jumble it again. 307 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:50,879 But where somebody that's got two losses suddenly wins a 308 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,720 championship game and gets the automatic bid. 309 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: So stay tuned. 310 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:56,679 Speaker 4: Where if they lose the title game with two losses, 311 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:58,600 they're not even in the playoff and you win the 312 00:14:58,639 --> 00:14:59,120 title game. 313 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm calling it now. 314 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: Somebody with two losses is going to win one of 315 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:06,039 these championship games and get the bye, and then everybody's 316 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,159 going to start screaming about that. 317 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: But stay tuned, stay tuned. 318 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I agree with that. All right, let's go to little, 319 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:15,159 a little in state rivalry, a little under the radar 320 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,440 national war, you know, Blat bad Blood, Hatfield and the Pois. 321 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:25,639 Last Friday night, you and I after my high school game, 322 00:15:25,679 --> 00:15:27,480 meet up and have a little milkshake and a little 323 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,720 some French fries. Fa u us. If you say, what 324 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:35,279 what is that rivalry? What? What? In state rivalry? It is, 325 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:38,399 but a little more spicy the last couple of years, 326 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,279 Tom Herman, Alex Golish, they played last year in Tampa, TJ. 327 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,279 Give the audience. 328 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:46,879 Speaker 4: The story here, all right, So you were you were 329 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:49,879 there at this game, and I found it very strange 330 00:15:49,919 --> 00:15:51,639 because I didn't see it when it happened, but I 331 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:53,000 read it in the recamp and then went back and 332 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:57,399 looked that Florida Atlantic is blasting USF last year, and 333 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Alex Golish's team was having an up and down season 334 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,240 on this was kind of a stretch where they lost 335 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:02,080 a couple of games. 336 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: They're beating them by fau. 337 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:09,679 Speaker 4: Okay, faus up thirty in the second half, and Tom Herman, 338 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,600 the former Texas coach, the former Ohio State National championship 339 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:17,759 offensive coordinator for Urban Meyer, in a genius move, decides 340 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:20,480 to go ahead and kick an onside kick in the 341 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:23,440 ultimate let's kick you in the ribs while you're down 342 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:29,639 moment to score another touchdown, which they did. And there 343 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,919 was bad blood after that game because Alex Golish was 344 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,120 not happy with that and Herman was making comments to 345 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:38,320 the effect of, well, this is just part of the rivalry, 346 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,279 and this is to stoke the rivalry and. 347 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 348 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: Well, now we fast forward, you know, basically twelve months later, 349 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,559 you and I are watching the game together for a 350 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,279 few minutes and USF scores to go up by twenty 351 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:54,519 and Alex Golish lines up to go for two. And 352 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:58,879 I'm telling you this is totally expected because of what 353 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Herman did last year. Alex Golish is going to try 354 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:05,039 to hang fifty points on Florida Atlantic if he can. 355 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:06,799 Speaker 1: So they. 356 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,559 Speaker 4: Yes, the announcers A Niche Shiroff and andre Ware of ESPN, 357 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,240 they're even aware of it, and they're. 358 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:17,319 Speaker 3: Saying, this is part of a year ago. 359 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:20,559 Speaker 4: And andre Ware quoted the famous line when Woody Hayes 360 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,440 was trying to run it up one year on Michigan 361 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,799 and went for two when they had the game one, 362 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:26,960 and he said, They asked, why did you go for 363 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,200 two there when you were up already decisively and he said, 364 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,920 because I couldn't go for three because he hates Michigan 365 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960 that much. This was the same thing, and andre Ware 366 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:38,079 quoted that line as USF was going for two. 367 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 3: All right, And here's my thing. 368 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,079 Speaker 4: So we've seen, probably if you're listening to us, some 369 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,759 video of the handshake that didn't really happen. Golish kind 370 00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:49,359 of slapped ing five and walked by him. And then 371 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Herman's trying to say something to him, and Herman's trying 372 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,039 to get back at him, and then there's a female 373 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,799 staff member. 374 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:56,559 Speaker 3: I don't know who that was. I don't know if 375 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,640 that's Herman's wife or who it was. 376 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:01,759 Speaker 4: Maybe he was a female, right, it was a female 377 00:18:01,799 --> 00:18:05,000 and an FAU polo was standing between him trying to 378 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:10,480 go back at Alex Golish. But here's the childish, most 379 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:14,119 stupid thing is Alex Golish didn't really talk about it 380 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,839 after the game. There was one person at the end 381 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:17,759 of the press conference that asked him about it, and 382 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:21,319 he basically said, after the game, Hey, I don't care 383 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:24,880 about that. We won the game and I'm not worried 384 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,079 about the postgame handshake. 385 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,279 Speaker 3: He didn't really elaborate, so when they. 386 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: Asked Tom Herman, the FAU coach, about it, he almost 387 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,720 juvenile is saying. 388 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: I don't really know what that was about. I really 389 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,799 don't understand that. 390 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: Come on, Herman, come on, you're not fooling anybody. Everybody 391 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:45,920 knows that what you did a year ago was classless 392 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:50,160 to rub it in and now what goes around comes around. 393 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:54,160 Don't play dumb, don't play the victim. Don't act like 394 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,599 you don't know what's going on. What he should have 395 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 said is we did it to them a year ago. 396 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:02,880 They did it to us tonight. I was unhappy. 397 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: About it, but it should be over. But apparently it's 398 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,759 not over if you're Tom Herman. 399 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 4: Because he's in denial that that they did anything wrong. 400 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,079 I guess he now feels like he's wrong. There's your 401 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,359 full explanation. Hopefully that wasn't too long winded. Stay tuned 402 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,079 for USF and Florida Atlantic the maybe next year the 403 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,319 the third installment. 404 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:26,039 Speaker 1: FAU play at East Carolina Thursday night, So if you're 405 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:28,880 listening to this maybe Friday, that game will have happened 406 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,400 Thursday night. USF got an interesting game at home Saturday 407 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,960 against Navy. Yes in the mix here for potentially a 408 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,200 conference title, maybe a group you know, maybe the twelve 409 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:43,079 seed in the group of five opportunities. So this Navy 410 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:46,079 team comes into rolling. This is an interesting game. Early 411 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,279 game at Raymond James. We don't know the status of 412 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:50,839 Byron Brown. Will he be back or is it still 413 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:53,680 going to be Bryce Archie. So a big opportunity here 414 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:57,440 for for USF to you know, pull it up, set 415 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,000 here and get back in the national headlines. A little 416 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,160 because they've had an up and down year, haven't played 417 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,759 as well as people thought they were gonna play. 418 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: So and again, the Navy quarterback who's tremendous as the 419 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,119 triple option quarterback, Blake Horvath, he was injured. 420 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: Last week. 421 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: They got whacked by Notre Dame that stopped their unbeaten season, 422 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,599 and then Horvath injured and did not play and they 423 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,880 lost the game to Rice. So this is back to 424 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,279 back losses. Correct, This is back to back losses after 425 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:29,079 being six to zero, and that was the game that 426 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,640 was delayed almost three hours by the thunderstorm in the 427 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,279 second half. So if your Navy, you cannot afford another loss, 428 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,119 if you're going to be in the American Championship Game, 429 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,279 USF has a chance to screw that up for them 430 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,559 at Raymond James Stadium noon Eastern time on Saturday. 431 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: Army is still undefeated. 432 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,799 Speaker 4: Army can basically all but lock up an American Conference 433 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,160 Championship game birth because they only have two games left. 434 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,480 They play at North Texas though on Saturday, so we'll 435 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:00,720 keep an eye on those scores. And you know what's 436 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:04,440 looming is if Army and Navy finish one to two, 437 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,680 one of them hosts the title game for a chance 438 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,079 at the College Football Playoff, and the next week they're 439 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,240 playing on a neutral field in the actual Army Navy game, 440 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,160 which isn't a part of the American Conference schedule and 441 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,640 is a separate game the second week in December. 442 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:23,559 Speaker 3: That would be bizarre if the first. 443 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 4: Game means everything for the College Football Playoff and the 444 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,519 second game is the traditional game that's essentially an exhibition game, Jason, 445 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,880 that is still in play for Army and Navy late 446 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,279 in the year. 447 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,079 Speaker 1: Crazy. All right, FIU, we're not gonna they're the kings 448 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,000 of the midweek game. They don't have a game this week. 449 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:42,079 They're playing at Jacksonville State. Rich Rodd's doing a good 450 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,480 job at jack State. So FYU will be at jack 451 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,640 State on the sixteenth, Saturday, sixteenth, last college game. Again, 452 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:51,640 Let's get to UCF real quick. Be Arizona bad. You 453 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,079 mentioned the quarterback play they benched kJ Jefferson a couple 454 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,720 of weeks ago. This guy comes in, It's played really well. RJ. 455 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:01,319 Harvey's played well. Arizona team not very good. Surprised that 456 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:04,759 the margin was what it was, But UCF four and five, 457 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:07,319 two and four in the conference. A little disappointing this 458 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,359 year out of UCF and Gun. 459 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 4: Interesting that Malzon fired the defensive coordinator Ted Roof. 460 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: So we were talking. 461 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: About it too, a guy he worked with at Auburn. 462 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,799 Speaker 4: Yes, and so he's got a new defensive quarter and 463 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,599 Malzon gave up the play calling for this week. Hello, 464 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,720 and they turn around and score what fifty points? Fifty 465 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,640 six points on Arizona And I'm trying to give the 466 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680 kid his props that came in. That's the former walk 467 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,400 on the quarterback. It's rizzed, right, is the Dylan riz 468 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:43,200 Is how you say it? The former quarterback that is 469 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,200 a walk on for them. It's it's crazy. He's the 470 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,759 third quarterback and he came in and lit it up 471 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:53,440 with four touchdowns a week ago. And so now you 472 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,599 seef got some footing back. And that's a very good 473 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,839 Arizona State team that they are playing at the Desert 474 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,519 seven Eastern time coming up on Saturday night. 475 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: That'll be fascinating, all right. 476 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: Last one, we'll get to the debacle up in Tallahassee 477 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:10,240 lose again to North Carolina one in eight. As they 478 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,200 head name name needs the game, so they're not gonna 479 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,359 have any mercy on Florida State again prime time on NBC. 480 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,279 They're preempting the Big ten game to Peacock for Florida 481 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:27,119 State against one in eight Florida State in South Bend. 482 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Gonna be cold, probably up in South Bend. Is this 483 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,200 just a full packet in for Florida State and get 484 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,839 to the offseason? Just give me a thought about what? 485 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:38,599 What the what a debacle that's been up in Tallahassee. 486 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,559 Speaker 4: I don't know how long we can go on. How 487 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:46,240 did this disintegrate so quickly? Did Jordan Travis mean that much? 488 00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:49,240 It's not just him, I mean, this is a This 489 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:52,079 is a great example of be careful what you wish 490 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,359 for in the transfer portal and bringing in thirty or 491 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,160 forty new guys. We found that out with Dion Sanders 492 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,640 a year ago. This largely doesn't work and Florida State 493 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,839 is beyond just bad. They're horrible right now on both 494 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,759 sides of the ball. How could it unravel this quickly? 495 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:13,519 I think I think there are a few answers right now. 496 00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:16,079 And this game meant I was just looking for this. 497 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:20,759 This game meant so much the nineteen ninety three famous 498 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,440 game You and I are getting old and nostalgic. Was 499 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,960 Florida State at Notre Dame and I believe they were 500 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:29,119 one and two? Were they not number one against number two? 501 00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:32,960 Notre Dame was number one? Florida State was number two? 502 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,680 And I'm trying to see what that game what that 503 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:41,720 game was rated the game of the century as they 504 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,039 called it. I want to say it was like twenty 505 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:47,240 five million people that watched that game on NBC. They'll 506 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,319 be lucky if they get a couple of million people 507 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:52,079 to watch this bad version of FSU who Notre Dame 508 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,319 should smoke them and they're then one and nine Florida State. 509 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,279 That would be incredible, incredible if that is what happens, 510 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:00,920 because Notre Dame is good. 511 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:04,279 Speaker 1: Yea, we can't afford it as a loss. They gotta 512 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:04,839 win the game. 513 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, with Riley Leonard and and offensively they can run 514 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,759 the ball. And the game is at home and Florida 515 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:13,640 State could not stop the run against North Carolina last week. 516 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,039 This could be ugly in South Bend. 517 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: There you have it all right, Florida Football inside this podcast. 518 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Appreciate you finding us. If you haven't already subscribe, hit 519 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,920 that subscribe button on your favorite podcast platform, JPO Sports 520 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,720 on Twitter for me and X and Bucks Sideline Guy 521 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:33,519 for TJ. 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I had a national championship ring. 549 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,039 Speaker 4: By the way, you were there, you were there at 550 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,400 that time period. They lost to Notre Dame. Notre Dame 551 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,880 lost the following week to Boston College. 552 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,279 Speaker 1: And Florida the famous field goal right and. 553 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: Tom Coughlin, the BC coach, beat them in South Bend. 554 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,640 Then Florida State ends up in the Orange Bowl against Nebraska, 555 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,039 wins the Orange Bowl, wins the national title. That was 556 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,839 a thirty nine share of audience that day. Thirty nine 557 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,160 share is massive. That's forty percent of the TVs that 558 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,359 were on pre internet days, pre Netflix YouTube. You know, 559 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,160 you had cable, you had the satellite dish, but that 560 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,240 that's a massive share. That's probably a representative of about 561 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,640 a thirty five million thirty thirty five million people that 562 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,119 watched that college football game that afternoon. 563 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: It just tells you how fragment of TV has become 564 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,759 well done. What else? What else? Before we're done, my friend. 565 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,839 Speaker 1: We're going to hit some couple NFL notes here when 566 00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:48,960 we can get you out of here. You were there 567 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,599 Monday night in Kansas City, the dramatic finish in Tampa, 568 00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:55,440 I mean the rainy night. Nobody in America thought the 569 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,440 Bucks were going to be in the game. The Bucks 570 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,559 are down seven. Mayfield takes them on a wall drive 571 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,599 to score in the last thirty seconds, and then the 572 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,400 decision does the do the Bucks go for two to win? 573 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,920 Do you kick the extra point? Todd Bowles decided to 574 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,279 kick the extra point, the fateful point toss in overtime. 575 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,599 You saw the famous picture of Baker Mayfield's expression when 576 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,880 he did not pick the right point. I think he 577 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,480 picked tails and it was heads. You saw the reaction. Correct, 578 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Mahomes takes him down the field wins the game. The 579 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,640 Bucks lose a heartbreaker Monday night in Kansas City. The 580 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,559 Chiefs remain undefeated. Just again, General thought about the principle 581 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,079 of going for the win versus kicking the extra point. 582 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720 There's debates on both sides, logical arguments on both sides. 583 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,319 I'll give you my take and then you can give me. 584 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,720 I know you had some intel from what the manning 585 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,440 passed and some of those guys were talking about. My 586 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:50,359 take is, as a fan, you have the Kansas City 587 00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:52,720 on the ropes. Nobody in America thinks you're gonna win 588 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:54,960 the game. The defense has been on the field for 589 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,279 seventy three plays. You've got the momentum. We know Patrick 590 00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:02,039 Mahomes is over were time in late game heroics a billion. 591 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000 The Buccaneer defense has not been great, especially on third down. 592 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,279 I would have gone for two. Nobody in that in 593 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,160 America would have faulted in if he goes for two, 594 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,680 doesn't make it and they lose. I think, even more 595 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,559 importantly for me as a player on that team, the 596 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,799 confidence that Bowls would have shown in the team, Hey 597 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,640 we're going to win the game here Like like our 598 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,519 buddy Herm said, play to win the game. 599 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 4: You know you play to win the game. I totally listen. 600 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 I can't disagree with anything you just said. It's a 601 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,400 second guesser's delight yep from the very jump and again 602 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,599 in the circumstance, I'm down there on the feet lightly 603 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:44,160 raining all around us. And what's funny, some of the 604 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,119 people were all bundled up. All the ESPN people were 605 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,000 around us to have their sets set up. Ryan Clark 606 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:54,319 is standing around me with an umbrella. They got ponchos on. 607 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:58,240 I'm like, people, we've been through two hurricanes. Unfortunately in 608 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,079 September and October. You think this is this ain't rain 609 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,200 where it's like lightly sprinkling rain in Kansas City, for example, 610 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,240 Hurricane Milton. I got thirteen inches of rain that night 611 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:12,160 and overnight. 612 00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:16,039 Speaker 3: That's rain, all right, So the field is wet. 613 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:18,839 Speaker 4: You got a lot of different concerns with the ball 614 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,880 being wet, et cetera. The Bucks pull off that great drive. 615 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,640 I understand the debate. Troy Aikman was saying on the fly, 616 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,559 they should go for two. I'm telling you, I'm having 617 00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:31,039 the debate off the air with my buccaneer radio boss 618 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,839 Jeff Ryan. You got to contemplate going for two here 619 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,519 and the win now a couple of variables. 620 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: We know this. 621 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,359 Speaker 4: You didn't articulate it here, but you've been talking about it, 622 00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:43,160 you know. O Their interviews in other places, they called 623 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,200 time out with thirty seconds left, they complete the ball 624 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,960 down to the one yard line, they called time out. 625 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,559 They didn't come up and clock it to save the 626 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,279 one timeout that was left. I understand the argument, you 627 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,039 probably should have let a few more seconds run off 628 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,079 the clock before you clocked it or before you called 629 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,480 the timeout, just to leave the Chiefs no time and 630 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,960 then really build the pressure of do you go for 631 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880 the win right now? Because they don't have any hope 632 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,240 of kicking a field goal. When the Buccaneers scored, they 633 00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:17,000 left twenty seven seconds on the clock to decide do 634 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,799 we go for the two or do we play for 635 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,759 the overtime, in which case Mahomes and company now have 636 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,640 a debate about do they go for the win and 637 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,880 maybe do something stupid? And I'll bring that to the 638 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,160 maning cast in a moment, but do you feel me 639 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,039 on It's not as black and white in that moment 640 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,440 when you've just driven down the field and you're contemplating here, 641 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,319 maybe they're going to do something stupid and we're going 642 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:44,680 to have a chance to get to win the game 643 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,519 in regulation, maybe we win the toss in overtime. 644 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: I get that Mahomes's record. 645 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,839 Speaker 4: Coming in with seven and two coming into that overtime 646 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,279 in the playoffs and in the regular season in overtime 647 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,160 seven and two. So I get that that's you're not 648 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,839 playing the percentage on that, but just an interesting second 649 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,920 guesser's delight there on. Oh, I know what else I 650 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640 wanted to say here in this instance before we get 651 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,039 to the mannings and what they were saying, and that 652 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:20,200 is that I think this factors in that they have 653 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,799 previously had problems running right up to the line and 654 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,599 running a play at the one yard line. 655 00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: Example last year. 656 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,319 Speaker 4: I know it's last year, but it's the same offensive 657 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,400 players in the game with Indianapolis. The first drive of 658 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,079 the game, Jason, the Bucks went right down the field, 659 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:37,880 got to the one yard line on a play, and 660 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,359 their mentality was over and over again, line up real 661 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,319 quick and do a quick readoption handoff and score real quick. 662 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,759 And that had worked a previous time, but in this 663 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640 instance they got a false start. The crowd was making 664 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,400 noise and they got a false start. It backed them 665 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,319 up to the six. They never got another crack at 666 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,680 the end zone after that and didn't score. I'm not 667 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,359 saying it's everything I'm giving you an explanation as to 668 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:05,960 why would you call the time out there? And there's 669 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,160 there's why they called the timeout, and that left more time. 670 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,119 It put it all into motion. So one more factor. 671 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,799 I've now watched the Manning cast with Peyton and Eli. 672 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,680 They were talking with Maria Taylor of NBC used to 673 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,839 be on ESPN. They never questioned, They never brought up 674 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,160 Gopher two. Peyton kept criticizing the Chiefs on why are 675 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,599 you playing soft coverage? Why are you not covering the 676 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:34,480 guy in the end zone? Why are you falling for 677 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,480 the play action? They can't run the ball, They don't 678 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,119 have a time out left, all right, so the Bucks score. 679 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: They never questioned the two point play. 680 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: Interesting that Peyton Manning kept saying, Jason Powers, this is 681 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,920 dangerous for Indianapolis. They could throw an interception here, wet field, 682 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,920 wet ball, I would play for overtime. And what did 683 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,799 Patrick Mahomes almost do twice? He almost threw the pick 684 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,680 with like twenty seconds left, should a Kuda Wood it's deflected. 685 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,799 The Bucks are maybe going to have a player too 686 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,519 to maybe get in field goal range. So I just 687 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,079 thought that was interesting from the Mannings and Peyton even 688 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,760 said Peyton even said, I think kicking off for the 689 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,119 Buccaneers favors them because I think there could be a 690 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,679 mistake from Mahomes here on the wet field with the 691 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,480 wet ball. He wasn't right. So it's all I'm bringing 692 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,559 up is it's interesting the different viewpoints. 693 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: At the end of the game. Go ahead, I said 694 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,920 a lot there. 695 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,079 Speaker 1: That's the same Peyton Manning who told who told Tony 696 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:30,880 Dungey to take get the punt team off the field 697 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,360 numerous times in his career on fourth. 698 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,199 Speaker 3: Down, So that's right. 699 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:36,519 Speaker 1: So but. 700 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 4: He was relaying just one more time. He was relaying 701 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,400 here that if I was in this situation that I 702 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,800 wouldn't be as inclined to try to throw passes here 703 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,840 on the wet field. I would play for overtime. And 704 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,360 they almost threw a pick. And if they throw a 705 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,760 pick there, oh my god, and you have a chance 706 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,360 to win the game with a field goal. Nobody's talking 707 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,519 about the two point play second guesser's delight. And I 708 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,039 understand in the argument from those that say, nobody would 709 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:03,639 have criticized you if you went for two and didn't 710 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:03,840 get it. 711 00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:05,599 Speaker 1: The other part of this, you only have six days 712 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,840 to get to get healthy and rested for the Niners 713 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,599 coming to town. Another ten plays on the defense in 714 00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:13,440 overtime up to eighty three. So you wonder, is it 715 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,599 now a two week effect of the tear of the 716 00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,159 wear and tear of playing in the heavy You were 717 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:23,039 there heavy conditions Kansas City. Give quick thought, give me 718 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,239 the atmosphere in Kansas City was an electric for you. 719 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: It was electric. It's loud. 720 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift shows up after the kickoff, by the way, 721 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,119 that's how they sneak her in and sneaker into the box. 722 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 3: I was aware that that was going on. 723 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: I want you to get the picture. I didn't see that. 724 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 4: I could not get to selfie and could not get 725 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,039 the selfie with her. Again, that is some kind of place. 726 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,159 They've won two Super Bowl titles. So yeah, it was 727 00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,320 a great atmosphere. There's no doubt in Kansas City. And 728 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,639 you see why they went all the time with Mahomes. 729 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,199 Speaker 1: All right, Dolphins losing overtime, Jags almost come back from 730 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,440 the dead to beat Philadelphia. We'll talk a bit more 731 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880 about those teams. They're not doing well. Didn't make any 732 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,679 moves to the deadline. I was surprised the Buck didn't 733 00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:57,480 make a move with the deadline, but we will. We 734 00:35:57,519 --> 00:35:59,800 will cut it off there, I know we run. We're 735 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,280 get a little short on time here, quick plug TJ. 736 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,639 Speaker 3: Reeves, go listen. 737 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: Buccaneers Radio, Bucks and forty nine Ers coming this Sunday. 738 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,920 We're on the Bucket Radio Network. Hello, Tom Brady doing 739 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,280 the game on Fox. Forty nine Ers off the bye week, 740 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,159 that'll be interesting. 741 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,199 Speaker 3: And again the Big Back. 742 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 4: Yes, it looks like McCaffrey is going to be back. 743 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,239 What a surprise. Off the injury, Off the bye week 744 00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,159 with the bad Achilles and the Big Twelve. 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