Speaker 1: Don't know what you saw, but ones I almost forgot
where these last two trailers we're going to talk about.
We got Michael, which did release the full trailer like
a couple days ago, but they put a spot on there,
but this was the trailer to like, go watch the
full trailer online. And we got Mars. So let's let's
start with Michael and we'll end on Mario because it's
a bit more. Uh No, I don't know, you're not
seeing Michael right?
Speaker 2: Oh? Obviously not the only way I'm going to a
freaking musical biopic these days. If it's fucking Steely Dan
or else, I'm I'm not going.
Speaker 1: That's it. There's no one else to get you in
the theaters.
Speaker 2: Would I even go see a Pink Floyd one?
Speaker 1: You would? I feel like, especially they might do some
trippy stuff with the movie too. There could be it would.
Speaker 2: Be it would not be cool and trippy. It would
be bland and fucking so boring and dry and predictable
like all these movies are. I might still see it,
But what.
Speaker 1: If it was like, because I'm with the s webisode
big proponan this. Have you ever seen or heard of
the weird al Yankovich.
Speaker 2: That I am into. Yes, I have not seen that yet,
but I love the I love that's that's fun. That's
fun and interesting and different, whereas all these other ones
are not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where it's like thirty percent of biopick and then
seventy percent of stuff that's made up like in the
middle he's a Dane Madonna and he's a soldier. Like
all this stuff, I feel like, I feel like Pink
Floyd or something. It would make something like that. Well
maybe it's not that, but it's like telling the story
through trippiness, and it could be like a cool gimmick
because these biopicks aren't.
Speaker 2: Who's who's coming up with that? And you're getting it's
getna approved by Roger Waters, who's like the grochiest guy
of all the time. He's like eighty and he's like
no fun at all. He's not approven that, and he's like,
you know, he's got, you got he's got to sign
on anything Pink.
Speaker 1: Floyd, But how like, how did he approve all the
other stuff Back in the day that was trippy, you know.
Speaker 2: Because he was a cool young guy who was doing
drugs all the time, and now he's just an old
curmudgeon piece of.
Speaker 1: Okay, so sadly, maybe you have to wait till he passes,
but I feel like you could get like it's not
gonna be Nolan. But what that's a good question, Like
who could Let's say they come to I say, hey,
we want to make an actual trippy Pink Floyd. Like
who's like a hot A twenty four and Neil director
right now that could make that trippy Pink Floyd movie.
I'm trying to think, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like that there's a world where that could that could
work out for sure. I don't know if I could
peg a director off the top of my head, but yeah,
like I.
Speaker 1: Don't know their name, but like you could tap the
person did Color out of Space still on? Like I
feel like they.
Speaker 2: Could do Okay, I need to higher quality than.
Speaker 1: Get higher quality. I'm trying to think of just even
a movie that's been weird.
Speaker 2: With really good visuals.
Speaker 1: You know it's not trippy, but the way they tell
the story. I feel like Josh Safti, who broke off
and directed My Supreme, that like he could do something.
Speaker 2: That would be great. Yeah, yeah, because there's Safti's give
me a Safti's in there put get Nathan Fielder in
there as well as.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah he could play the guy you're
talking about. He could do the Yeah, he'd be great. No,
because I feel like, like BIC is trippy, but like,
think about the opening credit still and when there's that
scene happening and then they go into the creation of
what's happening in that scene, Yeah, when the some swimming
going on. So that's what it's like for me. It's
like that's random halving this movie, right. I feel like
Safty could he could do that.
Speaker 2: And like I I, yeah, I definitely want. I want
to Pink Floyd biopic where they get abducted by aliens
and that's why their music is the way it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's how they inspired. That'd be that'd be fair.
Speaker 2: But I actually know I don't because then that would
bomb with the box off. Well actually I don't care
for bombs. But as we just talked about, aliens don't sell,
so we need something else, something that we sell, maybe
like something more mystical, like they get like there's a
wizard from space that comes down and they just.
Speaker 1: Go to Doctor Strange raw because Doctor Trage is some
on their album, right, so they partner.
Speaker 2: With Marvel overdriving Doctor Trage one. Yeah it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna partner with Marvel and bend a comb
Back is gonna narrate it, and it's gonna be like
one of his journeys and there you go. You're set.
But I will be there for Michael, uh because I
am curious how this goes. The truth will be revealed.
I know, I'm bump crickles out here because it's his
favorite movie of the year is coming. But uh so for
this this tri what because you're not seeing it? Do
you think this is gonna be Do you think this
one's gonna be hit? Because we've had stuff like Bob
Dylan that we didn't do well springing into well the
Bob Marley one. I think I said this on Treestory
where I fake Bohemian rahps did he hit? And all
these students were like, oh, we got to make musical biopics.
But I think they didn't learn, Like I think you
gotta be selective because I think Queen very massive band
with a tragic story, all that stuff. I feel like
that's not the same for Ellen John or for Bob Marley,
which does have a track story, But in a different sense,
do you think as an outsider, do you look at
this big Oh, I think this is gonna work for audience,
or I think this is like another like, oh, this
is not looking good. It's gonna be in the dust somewhere.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be in the dust somewhere, That's right.
I mean, I don't know, Like who wants to like
be openly huge like all I'm a huge Michael Jackson
fan these days, and I just want to tons of people.
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know if
that's the thing. You don't know. This movie looked so
sterile too, like it's not gonna be a like actually
dark and interesting thing and going into like the you know,
craziness in his life. It's just gonna be like very
by the book. And if these other ones that actually
looked like you know, solid movies uh bombed. I don't
know if this one is gonna do the trick, especially
when you don't not like those other two that you
just mentioned Bob Dylan and uh Springsteen huge stars. I
mean maybe, I guess I don't know how. Uh Jerry
Allen Way obviously like the bears big. I don't know
if he's he's not proven like track record in the
movie getting people to butts in seats at the theaters necessarily,
But like, I don't I don't think this movie has
any names really. I know it's got like Michael Jackson's nephew.
Speaker 1: Jafar Jackson and Coleman Domingo, you know, had both these trailers. Yeah,
and even Schaman, Like I want what was I wanted
to look at what that Dylan movie did, a complete
unknown because that has Chalmet who was like on the
bigger like he's in Dune. He had walk of going on.
Uh yeah that was that made one hundred and forty million.
So it's doing worse than Note over there, you know.
Speaker 2: So, I mean I imagine it's like pretty cheap movies.
Speaker 1: Budget was still fifty to seventy million. Wow, Timmy's getting paid. Well,
that's what I'm telling you, Timmy is getting paid. Even
Marty Supreme. I remember the budget where he Supreme. When
I heard about it, I was like, wait a second,
it's a pig like this movie, same thing, sixty to
seventy million, what's in same thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a it's a pretty bonkers movie. There's
a lot going on in there.
Speaker 1: You think so for so, I guess I don't know
everything works, but I just look at them like I
don't know where the seventy million went other than to
Timmy's pocket, which, God, get your bag, Timmy. That's fine,
you know. So yeah, I'll be there opening date. No, Daniel, definitely,
because I was somebody that I've appeared on the show
many times. I'm not gonna say them by name, but
I've been on vodka stream before with Dave, our friend
over there, and there's a guy that I don't know
if he's on his panels anymore, but I remember around
the time they announced this movie, I made some sort
of joke or something like that, and then he went
at me a bit. On social media, there's people that
are like very big, much like a left right situation
of Michael's completely and so now here's me think I'm
not taking a stance I don't know what happened there.
I'm the stance of like, man, we can't prove true
or false completely because no one's there. There's always just
there's weird stuffing general, even without the legal stuff. He
was just a weird cat that guy, like there's just
stuff you learn about, and I was like, okay, oh,
but there are people and I'm sure if you want
the comments of that YouTube trailer that are just we
love Michael. He's an angel because you remember at one
point he was when he was the top person, he
was like Elvis levels, right, So I think there's people
that have that's been brought down.
Speaker 2: So I think there's well, did the Elvis one do
with Butler? Oh, that's a good I forgot about that.
I feel like maybe the closer equivalent, like if that
one did super good.
Speaker 1: Let's see that did uh that did two eighty eight,
So it's bigger than all of these other ones we did.
So I think Michael can definitely do that. The big
one's bohemian at like nine hundred that almost hit a billion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. I feel like this is cap really,
I think I think this is capped at Elvis.
Speaker 1: I would say, really, okay, I'm I'm taking the over
on that. I think this is a guaranteed six hundred.
Speaker 2: No, all these things that I do, but I think
I think I'll say that I'll put my steak in
the ground on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't pizza bet this one either. I think
Maddie's tried to get me to pizza bet and I
just can't. He has or a movie bet, which I
don't do. I'm a pizza bet beast.
Speaker 2: He's flinging pizza bets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and to me in this situation, No, I don't.
I don't think it. But he's saying, I'm in this
situation where if you're telling me, hey, let's say I
was in a comb and I woke up and you
woke me up. In the first thing Dylan said to
me is hey, Michael made a billion. I'd say that
tracks like I would believe you. That's the thing where
I'm on that camp where.
Speaker 2: If the first thing I say the truth was revealed.
Speaker 1: And then you just walk out of the room. I
don't know, like I'm gonna be a copy of Michael. Please. No,
it's it's still in theaters. It's doing so well, it's
been there for a year. But uh no. I I
think if Bohemian almost at a million, this could But
like you said, it's a very different time, and for
the trailer itself, it looks like it's just playing it
very safe. So I think what they're doing is it's
the two storylines of can I break off from this
group to become my own person? Well we know the
answers because obviously he outgrows the Jackson five and becomes
this icon. And then the other thing, which is a
true story, like Jermae or Joe Jackson was a huge
piece of shit and three of those kids really poorly,
and that has a lot to do, I think with
other stuff that want Michael he beat the shit those kids,
and that's where it's like, And not that I'm excited
for that, but like somehow, like I think Colman Domingo
like he can give that performance, is what I mean.
Like he's gonna be a guy that, like I think
you can. We've all seen those bipics where it's like, okay,
this is the moment of Tragy and it comes off
as cheesier. Just doesn't play well. Coleman can make me
believe like, screwed this guy, Like I like this guy.
He's the worst. So I'm excited to see Coleman. I
will be there opening night to see because I'm just curious.
I think, like you said, they won't talk about any
of that stuff. I think and for money wise, it's
probably safe to do that. It's like, just tell the
musical stuff, and I could see the story because most
of the stuff I feel like is happening pre all
those accusations, all the trial stuff. So that's kind of
safe that you can be like, hey, we're just gonna
tell up until when, like let's say, not Thrill or
but let's just say like Ghost came out and then
not Ghost or whatever that album is where he's in
the fucking house. Well, it's not too late, like whenever
that was. You can do a whole period of chunk
there and you're kind of good there. So yeah, I
agree with you that the actual movie though, looks very, very,
very kind of bland. It looks just kind of paint
by numbers. But sometimes look at something like Minecraft that
can make a bunch of money, right, I know Minecraft's different,
but like to me, Minecraft's are very paint by numbers
movie and a billion dollar movie, you know. So yeah,
did I take the bet? Oh? I did take the bet. Dylan,
Oh no, we already have a pizza bet going. You
need Michael hit a billion, oh man, Maddie.
Speaker 2: Billy on this you had a Billy gen on this.
Speaker 1: You're fucking crazy, Maddie. Can you just in the pizza
that at least tag me so I can remember that
I took it. He must have got me on a
day he was going.
Speaker 2: I could see it, nuts, I can see it. Did
you even put that in your top ten of the
year prediction with the with Mike?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did, I did well? Okay, Yeah, and I
wanted the draft. Yeah, I wanted to drap a. Kirkling
got it. Kirkland had Kirkland has it in the third spot.
Speaker 2: So he copied you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did the truth Wilier Field. Remember Ty Hadad's
number one pick last year, So I could be wrong,
but I just again, Dylan. My other thing is I
think where this could hit, just like with the Avatar,
just like Go Transformers. I feel like the international audience
could be huge for this movie. And those are people
that don't give a shit about any trials or anything
that happened. They're just like, man, I fucking loved Thriller
when I was this age, and I think he kind
of transcends like different languages.
Speaker 2: So I mean, hey, I saw the thing you posted
the day Like Devil War's product too is barely tracking
really well or something early. Yeah, I thought that would
no one give a shit about that, So what do
I know. I'm just some guy, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like the most watched like uh, I think trailer
for that studio of this decade or something like that.
I don't know, like it's people.
Speaker 2: Well now you're no, you're telling me that. Now that
just sounds like okay, well make the very specific gold post.
Maddy's in the highest list into episode of this hour.
Can you believe it? Like you know, we can be
the stats and it sounds good.
Speaker 1: That's I'll take those stats, you know. Maddie says he
can see it being eight hundred and nine hundred, says
he is get a little bump, you know, and that's
coming out. It's it's April, so I think there's time.
Why should be big, you know, so, but yeah, we
will see what happens