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Speaker 1: A sigh of relief. Ryan with in New York Jets
Speaker 1: training camp today. I was just going about my normal
Speaker 1: Thursday morning and then all of a sudden, my x
Speaker 1: feeds hit with all these potential season ending injury doomsday
Speaker 1: chicken little reports about Justin Fields, who is apparently going
Speaker 1: to be okay. The latest we have on this from
Speaker 1: the Jets about four hours ago. Fields is considered day
Speaker 1: to day after he dislocated a toe in his right
Speaker 1: foot this morning. The team stated today Justin Field avoided
Speaker 1: serious injury and significant miss time. There is no fracture
Speaker 1: apparently as well connective tissue. We don't know. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: some damage there, but we have no idea what's going
Speaker 1: on there. But ultimately, given how bad this could have been,
Speaker 1: this is a positive result. Positive report on Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: A little over six weeks he has until the start
Speaker 1: of the season. The Jets take on the Steelers in
Speaker 1: Week one and the Aaron Rodgers Revenge Bowl. I bring
Speaker 1: this up Brian number one because it's very newsworthy. And
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Speaker 2: I bring this up.
Speaker 1: Also because he is quarterback eleven at the eleven oh
Speaker 1: eight right now. This is behind Murray and Prescott, it's
Speaker 1: ahead of Purdy and Kleblelliams. You and Sean just did
Speaker 1: your Jets' preview episode of the Sports Gambling Podcast and
Speaker 1: it was pretty glowing about the Jets. This Field's news, Like,
Speaker 1: obviously you're holding your breath a little bit. It seems
Speaker 1: like everything's okay. Are you adjusting the way you're drafting
Speaker 1: fields at this point based on this news or is
Speaker 1: this sort of a has it become a non story
Speaker 1: less than twelve hours later?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's it's pretty wild the timing. We've
Speaker 2: done this a couple times where we break down a
Speaker 2: team we know, like we ended our team preview ten
Speaker 2: pm Pacific time last night, so Wednesday, July twenty third,
Speaker 2: and basically woke up to the news, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: think as far as adjustments, I mean, I had just
Speaker 2: finished getting into a scenario where I was buying into
Speaker 2: the positive you know, tail outcomes and a lot of
Speaker 2: those having to do with justin Fields running the ball,
Speaker 2: Justin Field's hitting ceialing outcomes with rushing touchdowns maybe leading
Speaker 2: the league in rushing touchdowns one hundred to one, leading
Speaker 2: the division rushing touchdowns twelve fifteen to one. So yeah,
Speaker 2: to see that. The toe injury tows are always tricky.
Speaker 2: They seem to linger. I'll wait and see. I'm not
Speaker 2: a doctor. It does seem like all of the scary
Speaker 2: stuff didn't happen. But let's see how he's doing, you know.
Speaker 2: Side note, I love them Week one too. As far
Speaker 2: as which side of that revenge battle, I like I
Speaker 2: love taking the points with the Jets there, So, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of things for me to think on, but
Speaker 2: as of right now, seems like it's not serious enough
Speaker 2: for me to adjust. And yeah, I love Justin Fields
Speaker 2: as a second quarterback in these Best Ball drafts because
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're leaning into the run game.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll talk about Braylen Allen later, but yeah,
Speaker 2: there is a lot to be optimistic about when it
Speaker 2: comes to like this team and their ability to at
Speaker 2: least be a power running team.
Speaker 1: Ryan, if you were drafting in the FFPC main Event,
Speaker 1: the Big Gorilla Bestball Tournament or whatever, and you had
Speaker 1: Fields on the clock, you don't like dial in like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is my quarterback I would have taken had he
Speaker 1: not gotten hurt. Are you still taking him at that
Speaker 1: same point or are you bumping him down a little
Speaker 1: bit just because of the nebulus situation where we don't
Speaker 1: exactly know everything and this is kind of kind of
Speaker 1: depend upon over the next few days or weeks or
Speaker 1: whatever to see how he bounces back from this.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we find out he's missing games, I
Speaker 2: think you yeah, certainly, so I guess from that perspective.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm holding, but maybe everyone else being scared off
Speaker 2: just allows me to draft him a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I still will find myself having a hard time passing
Speaker 2: on him because of what at that time in the draft.
Speaker 2: To have that type of ceiling opportunity, it's hard for
Speaker 2: me to pass that up.
Speaker 1: I want to move from New York all the way
Speaker 1: to Tampa. Jenna Lane, who who covers the Buccaneers for ESPN,
Speaker 1: reporting yesterday that Chris Godwin went underwent a second ankle
Speaker 1: procedure this past spring. Reminder to everybody that god Went
Speaker 1: dislocated his ankle in Week seven last season. It was
Speaker 1: one of the worst nights of my twenty twenty four Ryan.
Speaker 1: It was right after me, as a Brewers fan, saw
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo launch a two run homer off of All
Speaker 1: Star closer Devin Williams to send the Mets on in
Speaker 1: the MLB postseason, And if it couldn't get any worse,
Speaker 1: one of my most drafted players last year, Chris Godwin,
Speaker 1: Like fifteen minutes after that home run by the Polar Bear,
Speaker 1: I see Godwin dislocate his ankle in a meaningless game.
Speaker 1: It was just it was an awful, awful Thursday night.
Speaker 1: It's been more awful for Chris Godwin trying to recover
Speaker 1: from this. He has not been participating in team activities
Speaker 1: this offseason. He has officially started camp on the pup list,
Speaker 1: and now we're kind of finding out reasons why maybe
Speaker 1: he's been slower to recover than what we thought. Jenna
Speaker 1: Lane says this was a minor procedure. It was more
Speaker 1: of a clean up procedure, but it also was not
Speaker 1: a surprise that he had this. Now, if he remains
Speaker 1: on pop for a for a significant amount of time,
Speaker 1: then yeah, exponentially, he's going to be falling down my
Speaker 1: draft boards. Twenty nine years old and Ryan I brought
Speaker 1: this up on one of the Processes Joe's broadcasts earlier
Speaker 1: this week, and the timeline of this was Godwin dislocates
Speaker 1: his ankle in week seven, he signs a significant deal
Speaker 1: extension contract extension with Tampa in March, and then just
Speaker 1: over a month later, the Buccaneers use their first round
Speaker 1: pick on a Mecca at BUKA. I present that without context,
Speaker 1: these are the facts of the story or the facts
Speaker 1: of the case. As Kevin Bacon from a Few Good
Speaker 1: Men would say, and they're indisputable. Now take that from
Speaker 1: what you will. How are you reading between the lines?
Speaker 1: How are you handling this Chris Godwin thing? You know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be drafting and pro versus Joe's on Monday night,
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a time where you and Sean
Speaker 1: are considering a mecca at Buka. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: time where you, guys, I think at some point would
Speaker 1: be considering Chris Godwin here. How should we be readjusting
Speaker 1: the way that we're drafting Buccaneers receivers, specifically Godwin and
Speaker 1: Agbuka based on this piece of knowledge.
Speaker 2: We were very in on the McMillan piece last year,
Speaker 2: and so we were dialed into this this passing game.
Speaker 2: And I think people forget how good Godwin was in
Speaker 2: those first six weeks last year, three three games north
Speaker 2: of twenty two points in full PPR. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think them drafting the receiver is you know, the
Speaker 2: timeline is very interesting with them drafting the receiver, spending
Speaker 2: the of the draft capital on it. Buka there tells
Speaker 2: you everything you need to know about the Godwin situation.
Speaker 2: Clearly they're uncertain about it. And yeah, I think we
Speaker 2: see lots of players start the season, start training camp
Speaker 2: on pupp and then it's part of the plan. You
Speaker 2: find out later it was that was part of the plan.
Speaker 2: They were always going to get ramped back up and
Speaker 2: show up week three. The problem here is, I think
Speaker 2: everything else the team has done makes me think they
Speaker 2: don't know when he's going to be available. So if
Speaker 2: you're asking me, like, the bet for me is is
Speaker 2: he going to play seventeen games? Absolutely not. Is he
Speaker 2: going to start to see and on the pup I
Speaker 2: think probably, which means you got to cap him out
Speaker 2: at maybe twelve games. And so yeah, I mean I'm
Speaker 2: to answer your question, I'm not drafting. I'm hoping someone
Speaker 2: else is going to pull that trigger because I I
Speaker 2: to your point, I'd much rather end up with Evans,
Speaker 2: Ribuca or even McMillan. So unfortunately, because man, his efficiency
Speaker 2: was so good last year. I mean he even had
Speaker 2: a thirty five point game in his shortened season. So uh,
Speaker 2: love the player, I just don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be this year for him. And if it is, I
Speaker 2: think it's down the stretch. So yeah, maybe if you
Speaker 2: draft him and you're in a tournament, style, he might
Speaker 2: show up for you at Week seventeen.
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin right now has an ADP in the Big
Speaker 1: Gorilla Wide Receiver thirty seven at the seven h five right.
Speaker 1: And if I were to ask you, if you're drafted
Speaker 1: like you know, proceresses Josh is a good example or
Speaker 1: the Big Gorilla, you know, just any any tournament with
Speaker 1: the FFPC. If this guy is still available to you
Speaker 1: in the mid tenth, would you consider him there or
Speaker 1: is that still too rich for your blood based on
Speaker 1: what we know about him at this moment.
Speaker 2: That might be. But I think for me, the way
Speaker 2: that I build teams generally, I've I'm probably in a
Speaker 2: position at that point where I'm loading up on running
Speaker 2: backs because I'm probably doing something that resembles running back zero,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking probably to take tight ends and running
Speaker 2: backs in that range. And I've probably already locked down
Speaker 2: my receiver room. You won't find me taking too many
Speaker 2: you know, old question marks in my receiving cores. It
Speaker 2: just feels like a wasted pick. Give me, give me
Speaker 2: high upside and unknown or just Rocks Doddie, rock Star,
Speaker 2: sturdy and steady. So yeah, Godwin's probably off my board. Up.
Speaker 2: I'm being completely honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's and that's fair. I drafted him early
Speaker 1: on before obviously before I knew about this, and then
Speaker 1: you know, over the last I would say seventy two
Speaker 1: hours roughly, it's it's it's totally flipped on its head.
Speaker 1: And at in the mid seventh round. I mean, you
Speaker 1: look at some of the guys going after Godwin, Meers, Deebo,
Speaker 1: Samuel Addison, Diggs, Ricky Piersoll even who and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about him later on. I think that that injury, I'm
Speaker 1: not too concerned about Khalil Shakir, Josh Downs. I mean,
Speaker 1: all these guys represent to me more upside than Godwin
Speaker 1: right now based on the injury and how significant it
Speaker 1: is not the injury, but the recovery from the injury.
Speaker 1: Another receiver who may or may not be off your board,
Speaker 1: based on the latest news that we've gotten from Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter from ESPN, is Commander's wide receiver Terry McLaurin. He
Speaker 1: did not report to training camp this past Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: he did not show up for a conditioning test that
Speaker 1: was the kickoff to Commanders' training camp. McLaurin is looking
Speaker 1: for a new deal and the team could find him
Speaker 1: up to fifty thousand dollars for every misday of practice
Speaker 1: that he doesn't show up. McLaurin will turn thirty years
Speaker 1: old this year. He was the Commander's top target last year.
Speaker 1: He is expected to be the Commander's top target for
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels this year. He has been in the league
Speaker 1: long enough. I don't know how important training camp is
Speaker 1: for him to get ready, other than just to avoid those,
Speaker 1: you know, those pesky soft tissue injuries that you that
Speaker 1: you you know, certainly pick up when you show up
Speaker 1: to camp late. And we want to see him in
Speaker 1: camp right now. We don't have that. We have to
Speaker 1: react to this Ryan as fantasy players and how we
Speaker 1: handle the Terry McLaurin absence. He is wide receiver nineteen.
Speaker 1: He is going in the four h six right now
Speaker 1: of the FFPC Big Gorilla. This is Harrison Evans, Rice
Speaker 1: DJ Moore neighborhood. That's where he's going right now. As
Speaker 1: far as the tumble, it really hasn't happened yet. Maybe
Speaker 1: it won't happen at all. Is this a nothing burger
Speaker 1: for you? I always hate talking about contracts in July
Speaker 1: because I feel like by August early September they're always
Speaker 1: resolved at that point. What are you doing with Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin knowing that he is missing time right now? This
Speaker 1: is not a hold in, it's a holdout. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's significant to you at all. But with
Speaker 1: McLaurin out right now and not practicing with the commanders,
Speaker 1: how significant is he moving down your draft board?
Speaker 2: Not yet? You gotta give it some time. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, pass rushers and wide receivers, these holdouts tend
Speaker 2: to be silly because you got they just get it done.
Speaker 2: And I think with McLaurin maybe it's a little trickier
Speaker 2: because he's not resetting a market, he's a little older.
Speaker 2: But come on, this is very easy. You paid Deebo
Speaker 2: Samuel more than you're paying Terry McLaurin, And I think,
Speaker 2: in no universe is Deebo Samuel more important to this
Speaker 2: offense than Terry McLaurin. So perhaps it's that it is
Speaker 2: also the last year of his deal. So the combination
Speaker 2: of those two things. Terry McLaurin also upstanding citizen. I
Speaker 2: have not heard a single peep from him in any
Speaker 2: sort of controversial way. So him saying, hey, let's get
Speaker 2: this worked out. I think he just wants to put
Speaker 2: a little urgency to say, Hey, you went out and
Speaker 2: paid another receiver that wasn't me. I didn't really like that,
Speaker 2: and so let's let's get this sorted. Make me the
Speaker 2: highest plin paid receiver on the team, and do it
Speaker 2: because you're in that rookie window. So I'm not for now,
Speaker 2: I'm not adjusting term. I don't end up with a
Speaker 2: ton of him because I tend to like some of
Speaker 2: the other options in the in the range. But I'm
Speaker 2: not scared off of him yet because he will be
Speaker 2: either if he if he's missing, Like this is a
Speaker 2: big deal for Commander fans. He's a big, big part
Speaker 2: of why that offense works. And you know, if they
Speaker 2: mess around and let this go too long. It's not
Speaker 2: like Dayden Daniels is this season. Vet he's in the year.
Speaker 2: He was in the league for one year, and so
Speaker 2: they need all the reps they can get. I'm not
Speaker 2: worried yet, but if he's still not there in a week,
Speaker 2: I'm starting to get a little bit worried, and I'm
Speaker 2: probably starting to allow some bias push him further down.
Speaker 2: By board.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that that's fair, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't you You got to let this breathe a
Speaker 1: little bit at to your point, I'm not bumping him
Speaker 1: down yet quite frankly. I mean, if there was a
Speaker 1: reason to bump down Terry McLaurin this year, this is
Speaker 1: like third on the list. I bump him down because
Speaker 1: he's turning thirty. I bump him down because his efficiency
Speaker 1: was was super like at a super high level last year.
Speaker 1: With Jayden Daniels, I bump them down because he's due
Speaker 1: for touchdown regression. I don't bump him down for this yet,
Speaker 1: although this would this would go with it. I have
Speaker 1: only I Ryan, I think, drafted McLaurin once this year,
Speaker 1: and I always say these guys that I've drafted once,
Speaker 1: they're always my FOMO picks, like just in case there's
Speaker 1: something there, I'll at least have them in one spot.
Speaker 1: You had posted this on x as a response to this,
Speaker 1: and I want to bring this up regarding Jayden Blue.
Speaker 1: I am drafting in a lot of rookie drafts, dynasty
Speaker 1: rookie drafts in the Kentucky Fantasy Football State Championship right now,
Speaker 1: which I know is weird who has rookie drafts in
Speaker 1: late July. I actually kind of like it because I
Speaker 1: have all these rookie drafts right after, immediately after the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and then you know, stuff happens and we
Speaker 1: get like two and a half months later, and then
Speaker 1: the rookie draft ADP is totally mixed up again because
Speaker 1: of what well you found out about training camp and
Speaker 1: everything going out with these teams. And I just took
Speaker 1: Jayden Blue, who tumble. This is a player that was
Speaker 1: going basically in the mid maybe late second round of
Speaker 1: FF dynasty rookie drafts. I got him in the late
Speaker 1: third in Jaden Blue, and I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: Despite this report from Lockdown Cowboys, former Cowboys coach Glenn
Speaker 1: Smith said that the Cowboys coaches quote have expressed that
Speaker 1: Jaden Blue is borderline lazy and that the team is
Speaker 1: not thrilled with his work habits. Jaden Blue was a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick this past April in the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: held in glorious Green Bay, Wisconsin. He was going to
Speaker 1: be competing with not only Joontay Williams, but Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: to try to be the number one running back for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Marcus Moscher also points out in a piece
Speaker 1: that he published there have been no reports of Jaden
Speaker 1: Blue working with the first team offense during OTAs or
Speaker 1: mini camp at all, and maybe this is the reason
Speaker 1: for that, maybe not, I don't know. Connecting the dots,
Speaker 1: I think you could make that case. Blue ran for
Speaker 1: seven hundred plus yards last year for Texas, eight touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and a guy who probably could be a three down guy,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's fairly significant in year one. But this
Speaker 1: is something we'll be monitoring. I did see about an
Speaker 1: hour or so before we went on tonight that there
Speaker 1: was a Cowboys beat writer talking about how good he
Speaker 1: looked on a big time breakaway play that he had
Speaker 1: made in practice today. So I'm clearly still buying the
Speaker 1: dip on Jaden Blue. I wouldn't read draft leagues as well.
Speaker 1: I've grabbed him in a few spots there. This does
Speaker 1: not necessarily concern me all that much, and I think
Speaker 1: it concerns you even less than it concerns me, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, as a Cowboys hater, I love to see
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff, you know, between this and Jerry
Speaker 2: grabbing the mic always good, good for content. But these type,
Speaker 2: these types of stories are generally silly. One this this
Speaker 2: reeks like Cowboys intended for the media to get their
Speaker 2: whole hands on this to send player a message. The Cowboys,
Speaker 2: more than most franchise tend to like to use the
Speaker 2: media to send certain messages. And two, to your point,
Speaker 2: it's not like we've heard too many positives. But let
Speaker 2: training camp happen. We know running backs tend to look
Speaker 2: good in the preseason games in training camp, so I'm
Speaker 2: sure we'll hear about the opposite that being said, Like,
Speaker 2: from what do we do with this information? I have
Speaker 2: no idea. I'm not generally one to draft a ton
Speaker 2: of Cowboys, but this running back room situation is a
Speaker 2: complete mess, and you got to expect someone is going
Speaker 2: to do something in here. I just wonder if it's
Speaker 2: gonna be, you know, a resurgence Javonte Williams or this
Speaker 2: like youngs. Because the interesting about Jayden Blew is he
Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as a guy that's going to be
Speaker 2: gifted like a huge role. It's gonna be situational, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of big play hunting. And so if
Speaker 2: he's already kind of lazy, I wonder if they're going
Speaker 2: to make him earn it with special teams or I
Speaker 2: have no idea, but I'm certainly not drafting him. Like
Speaker 2: I said early, I'm not one to take old guys,
Speaker 2: especially ones that I think might be Dusty and Javonte
Speaker 2: Williams and Miles Sanders both kind of fit that mold
Speaker 2: as well. So I've kind of been out on the
Speaker 2: Cowboys running back room, But I how do you not?
Speaker 2: How do you not at least like pay attention to
Speaker 2: the situation here? Maybe Jaden, maybe the Blue news causes
Speaker 2: him to drop and if you like him, you grab them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I also need to be waiting and seeing
Speaker 2: that moment he has the good practice or the good
Speaker 2: preseason game.
Speaker 1: Jayden Blue is running back forty nine. He is going
Speaker 1: at the twelve oh two in the FFPC Big Gorilla.
Speaker 1: That means he is being drafted as an RB five,
Speaker 1: behind Dylan Samson, behind Austin Eckler, behind Rashad White and
Speaker 1: Ray Davis. I could be wrong on Jayden Blue, like,
Speaker 1: maybe this report will ring true and maybe we'll see
Speaker 1: more of it, but in the twelfth round, it's not
Speaker 1: going to kill me. In the twelfth round, I only
Speaker 1: see upside here and I don't draft in fear. I
Speaker 1: draft with upside in mind, and so to me, Blue
Speaker 1: is still at a point where I want to take him.
Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But hopefully I already
Speaker 1: have three or four running backs in front of him
Speaker 1: at that point to count on if Blue does not
Speaker 1: come through, and it is the Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders.
Speaker 1: Shiit God, I mean just just saying that, I feel
Speaker 1: like I need a napkin to catch all that crap
Speaker 1: coming out of my mouth. It's disgusting, all right. Speaking
Speaker 1: of disgusting, let's talk about Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts is
Speaker 1: that Now this is an interesting thing. I was talking
Speaker 1: about this on my local radio show today about how
Speaker 1: it's important to be paying attention to everything going on
Speaker 1: in camp, not just injuries, but other subtle stuff, and
Speaker 1: this was subtle. Will McFadden, who covers the Falcons for
Speaker 1: the team, reports that Kyle Pitts has mostly been working
Speaker 1: with the Falcons wide receivers so far in practice. Now,
Speaker 1: he's been moving around the formation. That's nothing new, He's
Speaker 1: normally done that in practice, but it is notable that
Speaker 1: he has been practicing with the wide receivers here he
Speaker 1: entered the league as a tight end. Scott Barrett from
Speaker 1: Fantasy Point said that Pitts is one of these guys
Speaker 1: that is just positionless guy, right. He's not a good
Speaker 1: enough blocker to be a title like an every down
Speaker 1: tight end. And clearly, whatever he's doing for the stuff
Speaker 1: we care about, the catches, the targets, the touchdowns, the yardage,
Speaker 1: he's not been good enough there as well. This is
Speaker 1: a player that has not been able to use his
Speaker 1: size and speed to his advantage in mismatches for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: And now it seems like, well, I'm gonna stop talking
Speaker 1: because Ryan, I gotta get your read on this. Is
Speaker 1: this a good thing for Kyle Pitts that he's working
Speaker 1: with the receivers as far as fantasy goes, because that's
Speaker 1: quite frankly, all we care about. When you saw this,
Speaker 1: what was your reaction to it?
Speaker 2: Well, I got a good chuckle that Kyle. This is
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts season. This is Kyle Pitts's back season. And
Speaker 2: you know, as a as a general hater, I remember
Speaker 2: when he came in the league and you watch his
Speaker 2: tape at Florida and it was this tight end who
Speaker 2: was constant running over the middle, wide open, no one
Speaker 2: touching him and getting these wide open passes and just galloping.
Speaker 2: And then he got to the league there was a
Speaker 2: little bit more traffic. And maybe it's anecdotal. I watch
Speaker 2: all the games, but he trips over his own feet
Speaker 2: more than any other player I've ever seen. And you know,
Speaker 2: maybe he is just one of those too big, too fast,
Speaker 2: too uncoordinated to get it done. Him being a receiver great,
Speaker 2: that probably just removes the element of him not blocking,
Speaker 2: which he was never really too keen on. And honestly,
Speaker 2: when they the closer they lined him up to the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, it did seem like that impacted his
Speaker 2: ability to get into his route. So maybe you're you're
Speaker 2: you're aiding his potential to like be useful as a
Speaker 2: real NFL player, But I don't see how this helps
Speaker 2: him as a fantasy guy. I don't see you know
Speaker 2: they're gonna run him as a big slot. Are they
Speaker 2: gonna be running enough eleven personnel to get him out
Speaker 2: there with Darnell Mooney and Drake London. I just I'm
Speaker 2: not getting fooled again by Kyle Pitts or I've never
Speaker 2: really gotten fooled by him. But I'm not I'm certainly
Speaker 2: not buying in this year, even in a tight end
Speaker 2: premium league. I just we know, we just did our
Speaker 2: Falcons preview, and I think that Michael Pennix possesses a
Speaker 2: ton of variants in his performance this year. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, like in fantasy, like the correlation with the
Speaker 2: tight end and the quarterback performance there is going to
Speaker 2: be real, and I think it, like for me, I
Speaker 2: think there's a very real version of this team that
Speaker 2: just doesn't need Kyle Pitts and so maybe them putting
Speaker 2: him in the receiver room is them trying to salvage something.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not interested in fantasy and that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm coming from a place where I think Bijon is
Speaker 2: a very good pick at the top of the draft.
Speaker 1: Oh, we're definitely going to get into Jent Robinson with
Speaker 1: you for sure. We got Fantasy Jeopardy coming up. I
Speaker 1: think that he might be one of one of your
Speaker 1: questions which will be the answer in Fantasy Jeopardy. Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this right now. There is a club
Speaker 1: option for this year, which I do believe they exercised
Speaker 1: because he was a first round pick. So he's under
Speaker 1: contract with that. Well, yeah, obviously they exercise because he's
Speaker 1: a Falcon idiot. Okay, the Falcons will have Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: this year. He's an unrestricted free agent after this season.
Speaker 1: And Ryan, to your point, maybe this is like, let's
Speaker 1: just this is this is like pail Mary time, Like
Speaker 1: we got to find something that Kyle Pitts can do.
Speaker 1: And maybe working with the receivers is something. You say,
Speaker 1: you've never been fooled on Pits And I am with
Speaker 1: you on this because year one I just was not willing.
Speaker 1: This is before like the rookie tight ends really exploded.
Speaker 1: So I was still in my phase of like, rookie
Speaker 1: tight ends, they're they're not worth it in redraft league.
Speaker 1: So I stayed away from that. And then he had
Speaker 1: a great season. So then in year two I was
Speaker 1: still out on him because then his price was sky
Speaker 1: high and I wasn't gonna be drafting him. And then
Speaker 1: basically from there on out, I've always avoided, avoid it avoided.
Speaker 1: But Ryan, what if I told you in the FFPC
Speaker 1: Big Gorilla tight End Premium Tournament where one million dollars
Speaker 1: is going to the team that finishes in first place.
Speaker 1: What if I told you that Kyle Pitts is no
Speaker 1: longer a ninth round pick, He's no longer a tenth
Speaker 1: round pick. He is hanging clinging on to the eleventh
Speaker 1: round eleven. Eleven is his ADP tight end seventeen. You
Speaker 1: could very well have two tight ends on your team
Speaker 1: prior to drafting Pits in the eleventh. Does Pits in
Speaker 1: the eleventh do anything for you? Or you still say,
Speaker 1: like Bulky, no, it's not worth it. I'm out Let
Speaker 1: somebody else take him. I don't care what his price is,
Speaker 1: and that's still too rich.
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, Unfortunately, I think the guy's going around him
Speaker 2: in that range, Isaiah likely probably more interesting for me.
Speaker 2: Basically every other tight end going in that range is
Speaker 2: more interesting. So no, I think I'd still be out
Speaker 2: on Kyle Pitts. But yeah, I think when you're making
Speaker 2: him a receiver, you're saying, well, we might as well
Speaker 2: get something out of this, and hey, a ten million
Speaker 2: dollar receiver is actually pretty cheap, so maybe we can
Speaker 2: see it as a value play.
Speaker 1: We don't often have breaking news on this show, and
Speaker 1: I think we can move on past this because it's
Speaker 1: it's not fantasy related, but multiple sources reporting Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter among them. Christian Wilkins, the defensive tackle
Speaker 1: that the Raiders signed last year last March to a
Speaker 1: four year, one hundred and ten million dollar contract. It's
Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago. They are releasing
Speaker 1: him with designated A terminated vested veteran. He is no
Speaker 1: longer a Raider. He's going to be a free agent.
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins is no longer a part of Las Vegas. Brian,
Speaker 1: this is really shocking here.
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder what I mean. This is a guy,
Speaker 2: This was like a cornerstone guy. I know, this was
Speaker 2: a guy like this is a very close friend of
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence so as a Giants fan and was like,
Speaker 2: ooh he could come joined sexy DEXI I mean, I
Speaker 2: wonder what his is. What happened? Clearly he was not
Speaker 2: rehabbing or treating his rehab. Well, there's got to be
Speaker 2: some dirt here. Have you ever seen a club do this?
Speaker 2: I feel like seeing someone getting cut while rehabbing from
Speaker 2: a serious injury, freshly signed right tons of guaranteed money
Speaker 2: on that contract. Something bad happened here and it'll be
Speaker 2: interesting to track this story. But I mean, as someone
Speaker 2: who again already already broke down the Raiders on the
Speaker 2: Sports Gambling podcast, was kind kind of high on him
Speaker 2: and part of it was hopeful that he would return
Speaker 2: and kind of anchor that defensive line next to Max Crosby.
Speaker 2: This is, yeah, this is tough if you're a Raiders fan.
Speaker 1: It's really bizarre. I mean, the last news we got
Speaker 1: on this was Wilkins being placed on the pup list
Speaker 1: on Monday, and Pete Carroll said that the timeline was
Speaker 1: for his foot injury was uncertain. Now most of the
Speaker 1: time that in this offseason he's been in a walking boot.
Speaker 1: I think that we can safely assume that there is
Speaker 1: some sort of setback in this injury. But I mean, still,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with putting him on IR you know, or
Speaker 1: just knocking him out for the ear and then you
Speaker 1: still have him for the remaining three years of his contract.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is this is something that's evolving
Speaker 1: stuff up that I'm trying to wrap my head around.
Speaker 1: And now we've trying to find out, you know, where's
Speaker 1: the next destination for Christian Wilkins. Where could he go,
Speaker 1: I will say, and I know my Packers won't sign him,
Speaker 1: but they could use some depth along the defensive line,
Speaker 1: just saying, but we'll see what happens with Christian Wilkins
Speaker 1: going forward. Let's keep it over on the left coast
Speaker 1: where you are, Ryan and go to Santa Clair, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: the Bay Area fisherman's wharf. Head coach of the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers, Kyle Shanahan, said that he would
Speaker 1: be surprised if Ricky Pearsall was not practicing by Sunday. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the Pearsall thing. This is something that I
Speaker 1: think I've always fought against, you know, covering Fantasy foot
Speaker 1: a year round, you don't want to overrate things. But
Speaker 1: I was looking at this situation of like, okay, so
Speaker 1: this dude was hurt like in Mini camp in May, right,
Speaker 1: and he missed the rest of Mini camp, And now
Speaker 1: here we are in what is it two months later,
Speaker 1: two and a half months later, and he's still Now
Speaker 1: he's on the pupp list, which preseason pop doesn't mean
Speaker 1: a whole lot because they can take him off and
Speaker 1: take it off, take him off that list at any time.
Speaker 1: And Shanahan now thinking that he's gonna be practicing by Sunday.
Speaker 1: There was a little dip in fantasy, like it's weird
Speaker 1: the Niners wide receivers Ryan and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've tried to wrap your head around this yet, but
Speaker 1: you look at the Niners wide receivers. Deebo Samuel is
Speaker 1: now in DC. Ricky Piersall is dealing with a hamstring
Speaker 1: injury for the last two and a half months. By
Speaker 1: the way, he had a hamstring injury coming into last
Speaker 1: season too before he got shot. If you remember that
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings has allegedly asked for a new contract he
Speaker 1: is practicing, he's reported, Shanahan said he's never formally asked
Speaker 1: for that, So I guess that's good, But that's still
Speaker 1: you know, noise that we have to pay attention to here,
Speaker 1: and then who am I forgetting Piersol Jennings Samuel oh
Speaker 1: naiyuk auk ayyuk my god. I mean, we don't know
Speaker 1: like if he's going to practice in camp at all.
Speaker 1: We don't know, like like what the timetable is on
Speaker 1: this like this this could be a situation that lingers
Speaker 1: in October November and maybe even beyond so Niners wide receivers,
Speaker 1: and I guess I'll expand it to include all four
Speaker 1: of these, well all three of these guys. Basically, how
Speaker 1: are you handling this? Because I happen to be pretty
Speaker 1: bullish on the Niners this year. The schedule's really good. Uh,
Speaker 1: Kittles at the peak of his powers. They're gonna get
Speaker 1: McCaffrey back, who sounds like he's he's healthy, he's firing
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. I think Perty's in for a big year,
Speaker 1: but they still need some receivers on the field here.
Speaker 1: When you look at this Piersoll news, the Jenning stuff,
Speaker 1: the Ayyuk stuff, what are you and Sean doing? What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do in process? Joe's what have you
Speaker 1: been doing in your draft so far this year? With
Speaker 1: these three wide receivers in San Francisco?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know Sean very high on Piersoll.
Speaker 2: It sounds like I don't, like you said, the early
Speaker 2: training camp pup stuff kind of you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of times it's just a way to take it slow
Speaker 2: with a player. Now. I hate the repeat offense with
Speaker 2: the soft tissue stuff, and I think with the Niners
Speaker 2: they have a ton of receivers. They have a ton
Speaker 2: of depth. They DeMarcus Robinson's in the building, former Giant Isaiah.
Speaker 2: I think they have some some bodies Jacob Cowing it
Speaker 2: but I think this is Colling.
Speaker 1: Just not to interrupt you, but Cowing just got a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury yesterday, so there you go. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: So I actually my handicap of all of this is
Speaker 2: I think this pushes more into Kittle. I think I've
Speaker 2: seen a couple of the San Francisco Beat reporters mentioned
Speaker 2: how you know Kittle hasn't had a hundred target season
Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen. This is kind of shaping up to
Speaker 2: be one of those seasons. So yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 2: I was betting on where the targets were going to go,
Speaker 2: I would definitely be uptaking Kittle a ton. He's also
Speaker 2: someone that you know in my prep this season his
Speaker 2: he's been pretty consistent, and I know that he still
Speaker 2: needs some spike weeks to get there for the season sample,
Speaker 2: But yeah, the biggest upgrade to me would be Kittle.
Speaker 2: But I'm still in on Pearsaw. I still think that
Speaker 2: with the style of offense that they could run this
Speaker 2: this year with McCaffrey firing with Kittle firing like Pearsaw
Speaker 2: was getting open. Pearsaw's slippery, and that's kind of the
Speaker 2: the anticipation get open. Guy kind of works with Purdy's
Speaker 2: style as well, and so if I was if I
Speaker 2: was picking one of them, it would be Pearsaw. So
Speaker 2: hopefully there's a dip. I don't think he's dropping too
Speaker 2: much based off this news, although because it's now being
Speaker 2: pretty widely reported like it's not a big deal, he'll
Speaker 2: be back. But yeah, no, I think for me it's Kittle.
Speaker 2: Kittle's the biggest upgrade of all of these these pass
Speaker 2: catchers in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: You know, I think you mentioned the Spike weeks with
Speaker 1: Kittle to me, that's why I've always kind of stayed
Speaker 1: away from him in managed leagues, because I just hate
Speaker 1: how schizophrenic he could be. My apologies on that term.
Speaker 1: But with George Kittle, it's like Spike weeks would never
Speaker 1: a problem for me. He always had the Spike weeks
Speaker 1: and then last year he really put it together. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a Mendela effect at all,
Speaker 1: but I've always kind of faded Kittle because I always
Speaker 1: felt like he was hurt Ryan. I look back and
Speaker 1: like he doesn't miss a whole lot of games. So
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was thinking that that kidd.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a style of play. I just assume he
Speaker 1: gets hurt. He's out there a lot, and I think
Speaker 1: he's in for a big season. To your point about
Speaker 1: the receivers, I've got like no shares of Ayuk. I
Speaker 1: think I have one share of him on a dynasty team.
Speaker 1: And then as far as the other two guys, I've
Speaker 1: been kind of splitting it between Pearsall and Jennings. I
Speaker 1: was in on Pearsall early and then I feel like
Speaker 1: I was like, I should really pepper some Jennings in
Speaker 1: here too. So I'm probably about even on those guys
Speaker 1: right now. Slight lean towards Pearsall. He's got the draft pedigree.
Speaker 1: Jennings obviously showed out last year in a way that
Speaker 1: we've never seen before, and this was a position switch
Speaker 1: to where he was sort of like a slot receiver,
Speaker 1: and then obviously he had to go outside when Ayuk
Speaker 1: went down, and he showed out, so good for him.
Speaker 1: But I still lean towards Pearsall here on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, let's go there for the Chargers. Daniel Popper,
Speaker 1: who covers the team for The Athletic, reported yesterday that
Speaker 1: there was quote significant movement among the wide receivers. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, he talked about his ball tracking looked vastly
Speaker 1: improved from twenty twenty four to what he's seeing in
Speaker 1: training camp. However, and remember the Chargers started training camp
Speaker 1: last week, so they're already this is day seven, I
Speaker 1: want to say for them, like day seven or day eight.
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, he missed a he dropped
Speaker 1: a wide open pass over the middle, and then his
Speaker 1: confidence seemed to have dissipated. I know this is one
Speaker 1: play that we're overrating it, but this is what we do.
Speaker 1: This is what we talk about. We're breaking it down here.
Speaker 1: And why is that interesting? Because this is what we've
Speaker 1: seen over the course of his career since he got
Speaker 1: drafted by the Chargers out of TCU. He was better
Speaker 1: this year through the first five practices of camp, in
Speaker 1: the opinion of Popper, which is good. Jalen Rager to
Speaker 1: talk about some of the other receivers, was running with
Speaker 1: the first team offense for part of the time, and
Speaker 1: then he had a hamstring issue, so he set out
Speaker 1: part of the practice yesterday. Trey Harris and KeAndre Lambert Smith,
Speaker 1: who was also a fellow rookie, capitalized on that. Harris
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, dude, there's no earthly fantasy football
Speaker 1: draft where I'm taking Jalenrager over Trey Harris. But I
Speaker 1: think you have to understand at this point, like Rager
Speaker 1: was still running in front of him. Is this a
Speaker 1: veterans thing that Jim Harbaugh is doing to give Rager
Speaker 1: the spot and Harris has to overtake him. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but here's my point in the Chargers and I'll let
Speaker 1: you weigh in on this. Quentin Johnston, fine later on
Speaker 1: in Best Ball. I'm still grabbing him there, manage leagues.
Speaker 1: I'm still drafting Trey Harris, I still think, and I
Speaker 1: don't know. There are so many draft pundits out there
Speaker 1: because I was not big on Trey Harris, and there
Speaker 1: are so many people that I respect in the industry,
Speaker 1: whether it comes to collegiate analysis, whether it comes to
Speaker 1: NFL draft analysis, that were really high on Trey Harris's skills,
Speaker 1: ascending and being really good in the NFL. So I
Speaker 1: ended up taking him in a few spots based on that,
Speaker 1: even though, like I'm not the biggest Harris guy. But
Speaker 1: then Mike Williams retires Ryan and you have Lad McConkie,
Speaker 1: you have Conklin, who's to meet a jag at tight end,
Speaker 1: and then Moron dee Gaston a rookie behind him. They're
Speaker 1: gonna have to throw the ball at some point. So
Speaker 1: I'll let you weigh in on this. I mean, McConkie's McConkie.
Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about him. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to Harris, when it comes to Johnston, when it
Speaker 1: comes to some of these other guys, who's fantasy worthy
Speaker 1: for Kramer Centric in twenty twenty five for the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Trey Harris is certainly exciting. I mean, you know, as
Speaker 2: a Giants fan, watched a lot of the Ole Miss
Speaker 2: tape in the past couple of years. Like, I don't
Speaker 2: mind Trey Harris. I mean, I think with guys they
Speaker 2: come out of offenses like that, you just have to
Speaker 2: see them run routes. They don't run a lot of
Speaker 2: routes in college. They come to the pros, some of
Speaker 2: them can run routes. I not. Trey Harris has been
Speaker 2: getting open. I'm a big fan of watching those Ota
Speaker 2: Mini camp training camp film. I got a film fetage there,
Speaker 2: and man, he's been getting open. I also think when
Speaker 2: you have Harbaugh strapped in with the cleats at the
Speaker 2: podium talking about how Quintin Johnson is going to be
Speaker 2: like a playmaker for this team this year, he's either
Speaker 2: pushing that belief narrative or there's something there. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I would probably you know, putting lad aside as the
Speaker 2: clear number one. I would probably be drafting Trey Harritt.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of align with what you're saying. Give me
Speaker 2: the unknown of the rookie in a managed league, fine
Speaker 2: drafting him. Quinton Johnson's that's best ball or priority waiver
Speaker 2: if we see something early in the season. And to
Speaker 2: your point on the tight ends, yeah, like no, thank you.
Speaker 2: I think the other issue with this team is it
Speaker 2: is Greg Roman. If they have their way, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be leading games the run rate compared to what it
Speaker 2: would be if they're trailing games. Like Roman will throw
Speaker 2: the ball if he needs to, but he wants to
Speaker 2: run the ball. And I think they went out and
Speaker 2: drafted Omar and Hampton for a reason. So it's gonna
Speaker 2: be hard for me to see more than one, maybe
Speaker 2: two pass catchers becoming useful for this team this year.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I'm with you, dart throw on Harris.
Speaker 2: I don't mind taking Lad. He's a fun guy to
Speaker 2: bet in some of the lead the league markets this
Speaker 2: year too, based on how he was closing the season
Speaker 2: there with some of that volume, because there's also that
Speaker 2: version like why can't he be one of those thirty
Speaker 2: percent plus target share hogs in an offense where he's
Speaker 2: the clear alpha. So yeah, yeah, I'm I'm weighing on Lad.
Speaker 2: I would take the dart throw on on Trey Harris,
Speaker 2: and then anything else is just And I'm very in
Speaker 2: on Hampton too. I'm very very in on Hampton. So
Speaker 2: I see this offense being good. I just it's it's
Speaker 2: hard to want to invest in any of these receivers
Speaker 2: not named Lad. You know, I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1: About mccaukey and whether you're on board with that mid
Speaker 1: to late second round pick, and it sounds like you are.
Speaker 1: I am as well. The Hampton thing I think is
Speaker 1: interesting because the god, what day was this? I think
Speaker 1: it was Monday. I think it was Monday. For pros
Speaker 1: Versus Joe's number two. We had the report that Nanji
Speaker 1: Harris like his eye injury, they don't know when he's
Speaker 1: coming back. It was very I mean it was there
Speaker 1: was nothing good said by Jim Harbaugh about that eye
Speaker 1: injury on Monday, and then lo and behold, we watched
Speaker 1: pros Versus Joe's Monday night and John Dagel from Established
Speaker 1: the Run grabs a Mari and Hampton, who had an
Speaker 1: ADP by the way before this of the early fourth round,
Speaker 1: Dagel grabbed him at the two tent and this was
Speaker 1: and I can't remember who we were talking to. I
Speaker 1: think it was Mike shop from WGR five fifty. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: It's all mixed up now at this point. But Mike
Speaker 1: Schoup said the plan was to take Omar and Hampton
Speaker 1: at the two twelve because they didn't think anybody else
Speaker 1: is going to take him that early. And he went
Speaker 1: at the two tent. So Hampton, I'm with you, I'm
Speaker 1: in on and just as an aside, and we'll wrap
Speaker 1: up this Chargers conversation on this Ryan if that becomes
Speaker 1: the new normal. If Hampton requires a late second round
Speaker 1: pick in an f FPC Maine event f FPC Big
Speaker 1: Guerrilla Tournament. Are you still in on him at that price?
Speaker 2: It does feel like you're bumping up against like potential,
Speaker 2: But the pushback is very clearly like, look what Harbaugh Roman,
Speaker 2: Look what their offenses can carry. And specifically, you know,
Speaker 2: we you know the narrative of of Herbert not necessarily
Speaker 2: always having the best big games. We'll bring along this
Speaker 2: running back who's going to be able to find the
Speaker 2: end zone and you know you're you're needing a good
Speaker 2: number of touchdowns at that point. So yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: when I look at the other running backs in that range,
Speaker 2: I still don't mind taking Hampton as compared to you know,
Speaker 2: like a Bucky Irving or something like that. So now,
Speaker 2: as far as the Hampton versus Lad McConkie, that becomes
Speaker 2: a very interesting debate where you know that is the
Speaker 2: more likely thing to push me off Hampton, because I
Speaker 2: would much rather have a guy like Lad McConkie, who
Speaker 2: I think just due to positional just due to the
Speaker 2: position alone, he has a higher ceiling in my eyes.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Travis Hunter here. This is a compelling
Speaker 1: guy that I don't think I have done any fantasy
Speaker 1: football shows since the draft, and I'm not I have
Speaker 1: not asked my co host or my guest about this, Ryan,
Speaker 1: so I'm asking you about it. Michael de Rocco, who
Speaker 1: covers the Jaguars, said that Liam Cohen stated the team
Speaker 1: is going to give Hunter an opportunity to flip flop
Speaker 1: within the same practice between offense and defense. He spent
Speaker 1: most of OTA's he spent most of Mini camp on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. I think because Cohen said,
Speaker 1: he's just a natural corner, so he needs to be
Speaker 1: exposed to the offense, to the wide receiver position more.
Speaker 1: And Cohen says the team is going to give him
Speaker 1: a couple of days on offense, They're going to give
Speaker 1: him a couple of days on defense, and then when
Speaker 1: he's ready, they're going to get him the opportunity to
Speaker 1: flip flop within the same practice. The Jaguars want this
Speaker 1: guy practicing on both sides of the ball. We know
Speaker 1: how much they gave up for him in the draft
Speaker 1: to have this unique talent on the team. As well.
Speaker 1: When you look at the ADP right now in the
Speaker 1: FFPC Big Gorilla Tournament, we see Travis Hunter going off
Speaker 1: the board as wide receiver thirty two. This is at
Speaker 1: the middle of the sixth round.
Speaker 2: Ryan.
Speaker 1: He is behind DeVonta Smith, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Jalen Waddle,
Speaker 1: but he is going ahead of Judy Olave and Juwan
Speaker 1: Jennings as well. This mystery wrapped in a riddle, smothered
Speaker 1: in secret sauce. Travis Hunter for FFPC Fantasy football leagues
Speaker 1: this year? How are you handling him? And what are
Speaker 1: your expectations for this guy? From a fantasy football standpoint
Speaker 1: in year one?
Speaker 2: It's just the touchdowns He's going to have to score
Speaker 2: because there's no way in my mind that if he's
Speaker 2: he's playing both ways, you're just not going to get
Speaker 2: the route volume. And so you're you're you're relying on touchdowns,
Speaker 2: and you know this time of year, rookies generally have
Speaker 2: that that probably expensive ADP. You look at the receivers.
Speaker 2: He's around Wattle. Uh, I'm taking Wattle at ten times
Speaker 2: out of ten. Judy. I'm not even a huge Judy guy,
Speaker 2: but I'm taking him over a Hunter. Same with o'doons a.
Speaker 2: Same you know, this is that Godwin range we were
Speaker 2: talking about early even Jakobe Myers is someone that I
Speaker 2: would probably be more interested in taking versus Travis Hunter. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe in a Bestball league where I plan on having
Speaker 2: some sort of correlation, maybe it's Brian Thomas, Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: and Trevor Lawrence or something like that. But even in
Speaker 2: those worlds, I just wonder how much volume they actually
Speaker 2: want to give them. If you want this cat to
Speaker 2: play both ways, I don't think you want to burn
Speaker 2: him out and hurt him. So having him just run
Speaker 2: a d routes just to run routes feels silly. I
Speaker 2: think red zone package feels like the obvious, and then
Speaker 2: you know, prescribed amount of routes. I don't. I'm I
Speaker 2: think I've drafted Travis Hunter one time, and it was
Speaker 2: what I was describing a team that I planned on
Speaker 2: having a Jacksonville stack.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you say that, because, like, while
Speaker 1: you have been shying away from Hunter at that point
Speaker 1: in the draft, I feel like I've been kind of
Speaker 1: like getting really excited. I'm doing the opposite because and
Speaker 1: I think Adam Hahn posted this too in YouTube, Travis
Speaker 1: Hunter might be full time on both sides. People excel
Speaker 1: at not seeing things until they happen. So this is
Speaker 1: how I'm looking at it. Six round pick in the
Speaker 1: FFPC and the KFFFC. He gets bumped up a little
Speaker 1: bit more, but not much because you got to start
Speaker 1: three receivers in that format. For me, I am not
Speaker 1: drafting scared, and maybe scared is not the right term.
Speaker 1: I'm drafting for upside there understanding that, yeah, this might
Speaker 1: be a really bad pick because I don't know what
Speaker 1: is used to just gonna be like, but I tend
Speaker 1: to I'm looking at that more positively. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: that more optimistically and saying, like, God, if this guy
Speaker 1: hits as my number three receiver here, that this is
Speaker 1: going to be a dominant squad. And if he doesn't, well,
Speaker 1: then it's going to rely on on how I'm doing
Speaker 1: with how I built my receivers after that. Right, But
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, I don't say more often
Speaker 1: than not, but I mean I probably got Hunter on
Speaker 1: maybe four or five teams out of you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many I've drafted so far, but but
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been I haven't been shying away
Speaker 1: from it. Now, maybe that's wrong, and you give me
Speaker 1: some good reasons to think to rethink that next time
Speaker 1: I'm faced with that decision. But that's what I've been
Speaker 1: doing up until this point. Now, we're very excited about
Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense this year. At least I have one
Speaker 1: offense I'm definitely not excited about. And I really don't
Speaker 1: know what to make heads or tails out of is Cleveland.
Speaker 1: We saw the report earlier today Kenny Pickett was the
Speaker 1: number one quarterback in eleven on a drills. I don't
Speaker 1: want to necessarily focus on the quarterback here with you, Ryan,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the running back. Three hours ago,
Speaker 1: Daniel Oyafusi, who covers the Browns, reported that Jerome Ford
Speaker 1: did not practice today. He's dealing with a minor injury,
Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski said this is something that's been going
Speaker 1: on the last couple of weeks, but that he's going
Speaker 1: to be okay. Could the dominoes be falling in any
Speaker 1: better direction for Dylan Samson right now? Could anything be
Speaker 1: lining up better from for the rookie from Tennessee who
Speaker 1: now has this quin Shawn Judkins thing looking really good
Speaker 1: for Dylan Samson, shares now has the Jerome Ford thing
Speaker 1: of like okay now Samson gets to run with the
Speaker 1: Ones because Ford is dinged up right now? Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this Cleveland backfield, because it's a mess with Judkins,
Speaker 1: with Samson and with Ford right now with this injury.
Speaker 1: For anybody drafting tonight, what's the proper way to handle it?
Speaker 2: I mean, it does seem like you want a piece
Speaker 2: of the Bears running back room lately. So my the
Speaker 2: way I've been taking it as I I originally before
Speaker 2: the news on Jenkins, it was Junkins, then it became Ford.
Speaker 2: Now with the positive and the negative news on Ford
Speaker 2: and just the style of running back that he is,
Speaker 2: Samson becomes very interesting. I heard someone make that, I
Speaker 2: think it was Ben Gretch make the comparison of when
Speaker 2: the Packers selected Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones and Dylan
Speaker 2: Samson becomes the Aaron Jones in that in that that
Speaker 2: that that metaphor, and why why not? Right like when
Speaker 2: you double tap a position in the draft just because
Speaker 2: he's the second one, he was still fourth round draft capital,
Speaker 2: I believe, and so significant for a running back. So
Speaker 2: to answer your question directly, I would say that I
Speaker 2: want to make sure I have exposure to Ford and Samson.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen with Jenkins now. It
Speaker 2: seems like there's definitely gonna be charges. There's nothing getting
Speaker 2: in the way, and there could be a suspension this year,
Speaker 2: and so I want nothing to do with that situation.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I already have a hand ford in bastball.
Speaker 2: So you know, my homework is to start picking up
Speaker 2: some Sampson because you know, he is an interesting back,
Speaker 2: especially you know, I like him more in the version
Speaker 2: of the offense where Flacco's bombited a bit more and
Speaker 2: there's some space for him to operate and use that speed.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, certainly Stefanski seems to get fantasy
Speaker 2: points out of running backs consistently in.
Speaker 1: The FFPC Big Grilla Ryan. The latest Judkins has gone
Speaker 1: over the last three days. Is the ten oh nine
Speaker 1: still too rich for you? You're not taking them there?
Speaker 2: You know, it gets interesting. It certainly is late enough
Speaker 2: to where you're you're basically, you know, even if you're
Speaker 2: RB zero, you're probably at your third or fourth running
Speaker 2: back hopefully at that point. So yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: would be interested because when I watched him run at
Speaker 2: Ohio State, he just stood out to me. As looking
Speaker 2: like an NFL back, just the way that his contact
Speaker 2: balance and how thick his lower body was, and specifically
Speaker 2: like he looks like a Brown's running back. And so
Speaker 2: when he's out there, if he's out there, he has
Speaker 2: the biggest potential of all these guys. The problem is
Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds like he could miss four to
Speaker 2: six games based on the internet legal experts I follow.
Speaker 1: So I want to go rapid fire on these last
Speaker 1: few points here. Noah Fank gets released by the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Elijah Arroyo season is underway in Seattle. If I look
Speaker 1: at the ADP on this one, Drafter in the FFPC
Speaker 1: Big Gorilla in the last three days took Royo as
Speaker 1: high as the eleven h four. He is right now
Speaker 1: currently at tight end twenty six at the sixteen oh
Speaker 1: one that is going to go up based on the
Speaker 1: fact that Fant is no longer there. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about Arroyo as a redraft player this season in
Speaker 1: his rookie year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you want to draw the parallels between
Speaker 2: like the Baltimore offense and Isaiah Likely and that kind
Speaker 2: of athletic tight end that's going to be able to move,
Speaker 2: going to be able to run real routes and going
Speaker 2: to be able to be something that operates in more
Speaker 2: than just a standard tight end role, and it is
Speaker 2: kobiak there. I do have questions about how this is
Speaker 2: all going to work. I appreciate how McDonald has been
Speaker 2: given the freedom to make the roster changes when needed
Speaker 2: and get rid of pieces when they just aren't going
Speaker 2: to work. But you know, we were discussing the rookie
Speaker 2: tight ends earlier, right there are I'm still hesitant there's
Speaker 2: still rookie tight ends. It's still so rare that you
Speaker 2: see someone absolutely go bonkers, like the brock Bauers and
Speaker 2: the Kyle I'll say, I'll whisper at Kyle Pitts of
Speaker 2: the world, But yeah, no. I also just I don't
Speaker 2: have a ton of belief this offense is going to
Speaker 2: need to show it to me before I'll believe it.
Speaker 2: Sam Donold the whole package like it looks fun. It
Speaker 2: looks fun on paper, the Cooper Cup JSN and a
Speaker 2: maybe big step forward year, but I got to see
Speaker 2: it up there first. I think they're going to be
Speaker 2: a defense first team.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think that's how they win,
Speaker 1: especially in that division. For sure. We're going to get
Speaker 1: into romadunsday in a little bit, But I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Luther Burden with you right now. Ben Johnson
Speaker 1: said that he's day to day because of this hamstring
Speaker 1: injury that knocked him out of OTA's rookie mini camp
Speaker 1: and apparently landing on a football as well, But Courtney Cronin,
Speaker 1: who covers the Bears for ESPN, said this hamstring thing
Speaker 1: is the biggest thing keeping him from practice. Alimedi Zachaeus
Speaker 1: or I don't know how he pronounce the last name,
Speaker 1: and then Devin Dubernan they've been getting reps with the
Speaker 1: first team. God, I have been riding the Luther Burton
Speaker 1: rollercoaster ever since he was drafted by the Bears. I
Speaker 1: was down on him, then I was up, Then I'm down,
Speaker 1: then I was up. Now I think I'm down on
Speaker 1: him again. How are you handling Luther Burden? What are
Speaker 1: your expectations for Burden specifically in this Bears offense, knowing
Speaker 1: that he is day to day right now with this hamstring.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just, you know, we talked about this
Speaker 2: with Pierce Solid Just in general, I hate that this
Speaker 2: is a rookie coming into the league, and he hasn't
Speaker 2: practiced since May twentieth. These amstring injuries tend to not
Speaker 2: only happen once, they tend to pop up. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm excited for what this Bears offense could be. I
Speaker 2: wonder how much opportunity Burden is going to have. You know,
Speaker 2: you have more You have a Dunes who you know
Speaker 2: might be BFFs with Caleb. You have the two tight
Speaker 2: ends with with Comet and Colston Lovelin. You have what
Speaker 2: we expect to be a two running back system maybe
Speaker 2: with Swift and Roshawn Johnson. But I wonder already what
Speaker 2: is Burden going to be in this offense outside of
Speaker 2: a little bit of a gadget player. And yeah, this
Speaker 2: is a horrible start because this also gives you the
Speaker 2: opportunity to think, maybe he's a little lazy, Maybe he's
Speaker 2: not preparing his body, he's not hydrating, whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is concerning. I would say slightly more
Speaker 2: concerning than the Ricky Piersoll thing because we just it's
Speaker 2: more unknown.
Speaker 1: George Pickens went from Pittsburgh to Dallas this year, And
Speaker 1: I want to wrap up this segment with the Pickens talk.
Speaker 1: The latest we have on him is Brian Schottenheimer calling
Speaker 1: his instincts uncanny, and Brian, let me tell you that's
Speaker 1: not the only thing with George Pickens that's uncanny.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: His ability to track and secure downfield attempts is what
Speaker 1: specifically Schottenheimer is talking about. Dak Prescott has been talking
Speaker 1: up George Pickens ever since the Cowboys acquired him. He
Speaker 1: talked about how our Schttenheimer excuse me, talked about how
Speaker 1: they didn't have enough explosive plays in Dallas last year,
Speaker 1: and Pickens, who had the second most receiving yards on
Speaker 1: downfield targets, is certainly going to help in that regard.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, I have not been drafting this guy,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's because he's the number two receiver on
Speaker 1: this team, and I just think that this is it's
Speaker 1: all about Ceedee lamp. If you go with the every
Speaker 1: other theory with Dak Prescott, we'll get into it a
Speaker 1: little bit. This is going to be a big year
Speaker 1: for Prescott. Pickens has moved up now Ryan to the
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton Jamison Williams DeVonta Smith territory. He is wide
Speaker 1: receiver twenty seven at the five oho nine, number two
Speaker 1: target on his team. Probably, certainly Drake Ferguson owners would
Speaker 1: tell me that he might be number three. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on George Pickens and how you're handling this guy this year,
Speaker 1: knowing that Pittsburgh went out and got rid of this
Speaker 1: guy after drafting him and trying to develop him, and
Speaker 1: now Dallas takes over. Not exactly the greatest run organization,
Speaker 1: greatest coached organization, but maybe that changes this year and
Speaker 1: maybe they get it right with Pickens. Your thoughts on
Speaker 1: how you're handling Pickens.
Speaker 2: And drafts, I mean, it does seem like getting sent
Speaker 2: away by Tomlin is a bad thing if you're a receiver.
Speaker 2: It had like there's not a good sample of guys
Speaker 2: who have left the Steelers and done positive things elsewhere.
Speaker 2: I think Santonio Holmes maybe is the list there. Pickens also,
Speaker 2: we know what he is as a receiver. He's someone
Speaker 2: that's going to be able to win deep and he
Speaker 2: has amazing kind of awareness to how to high point
Speaker 2: the ball and how to get there. Now to your
Speaker 2: point on targets, I'm with the Ferguson owners. I think
Speaker 2: Pickens is a clear third option. We are already two
Speaker 2: days in the camp. We've read how much Dak and
Speaker 2: Ferguson look look solid. Dak and CD look solid throwing
Speaker 2: to each other, and I think you know what they needed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they do need that deep threat. So the idea that
Speaker 2: Pickens is kind of more of a you know, best
Speaker 2: ball target almost where he's gonna have some games where
Speaker 2: he get he pops off with some big plays, but
Speaker 2: I don't know if the consistency's gonna be there, and
Speaker 2: then you know, you sprinkle in the uncertainty that I had.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's been a lot of interesting
Speaker 2: things said about the offense in general by the coaching staff,
Speaker 2: by ownership, and so I think there's a little bit
Speaker 2: more of a you know, volatility factor in the locker
Speaker 2: room of this Cowboys team this year. And so when
Speaker 2: you have volatility and you have bits of gasoline and
Speaker 2: firecracker like George Pickens, there's also that element that I
Speaker 2: kind of have found myself steering away from. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think maybe more of a best ball target,
Speaker 2: but even still in the range where he's going, I'd
Speaker 2: much rather have a DeVonta Smith. This is a Flowers
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, a Jamison Williams, and so yeah, not not
Speaker 2: finding myself taking too much Pickens. And also just I
Speaker 2: kind of observed that Tomlin is the man, and that
Speaker 2: if Tomlin says no, I'll listen.
Speaker 1: I think that Tomlin thing is is astute. And to
Speaker 1: your point, the other receivers going around him, you know,
Speaker 1: Jamis and Williams. Yeah, he's the number two target and
Speaker 1: maybe number three target on his team behind Laporta and
Speaker 1: Saint Brown. But we've already seen him do it. He
Speaker 1: had a thousand years receiving year last year, and he's
Speaker 1: still with that same team. He's not going to a
Speaker 1: new offense, new OC, new head coach, new quarterback like
Speaker 1: George Pickens's DeVonta Smith again number two receiver on Philly.
Speaker 1: I think that he is being unfairly penalized for how
Speaker 1: much they ran last year. I would much rather have
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith there over Pickens. To your point, Flowers, I'm
Speaker 1: hit or miss on. I don't know. I mean I
Speaker 1: could go Pickens and Flowers there. Ridley I actually like
Speaker 1: better than Pickens as well, granted that that offense is
Speaker 1: not as dialed in, as not as potent as Dallas,
Speaker 1: but I think that cam Ward is going to lock
Speaker 1: on to Ridley this year and utilize them quite a bit.
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Speaker 1: into it right now. The categories that you have to
Speaker 1: pick from are as follows, league losers, league winners, Premium
Speaker 1: tight ends, starting off with a bank, no shares, JJ
Speaker 1: zecherieson for the win, can't get enough, and Rip Van Winkle.
Speaker 1: What category are we starting from tonight? Ryan on Fantasy Jeopardy.
Speaker 2: You know we have a type on the Sports Gambling podcast,
Speaker 2: we are big tight end guys love the first touchdown market.
Speaker 2: So let's go with premium tight ends.
Speaker 1: All right, Premium tight ends it is, And here's the answer.
Speaker 1: Currently drafted outside of the top twelve tight ends, this
Speaker 1: player is going to smash his ADP, says Ryan Kramer.
Speaker 2: Ryan, go ahead, Oh what is Who is Isaiah like?
Speaker 2: Who is Isaiah likely? Well?
Speaker 1: Is Isaiah likely? This is interesting? Go ahead.
Speaker 2: It's the same handicap as I had last year and
Speaker 2: the year before that. Give me Coastal Carolina's finest. We
Speaker 2: saw how well Mark Andrews look down the stretch. We've
Speaker 2: heard so much positive talk about Isaiah Likely in the
Speaker 2: offense in a more consistent way and an absolute star
Speaker 2: of tu this summer. Although Taylor Swift did perform and
Speaker 2: some say she was the star of the situation. Isaiah
Speaker 2: likely was the guy getting all the glowing reports from
Speaker 2: the other tight ends in One of the things I
Speaker 2: love to do in FFPC is generally draft four tight ends,
Speaker 2: whether it's best ball or even managed. Love ending up
Speaker 2: with a lot of tight ends, not spending early capital
Speaker 2: on them. So Isaiah likely is probably on one hundred
Speaker 2: percent of my FFPC team so far. He's the guy
Speaker 2: I think smashes the ADP and you have that justin
Speaker 2: case scenario Andrews doesn't stay healthy again. What could this be?
Speaker 2: I mean we could be looking at a surefire top
Speaker 2: two round pick.
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely tight end sixteen at the eleven or nine.
Speaker 1: He has ascended since John Harbaugh's all pro expectations for
Speaker 1: him this season. I want to get into mile Hi Luke,
Speaker 1: who's in the YouTube chat right now. He said, who
Speaker 1: is Hunter Henry? What do you say about Hunter Henry?
Speaker 1: As the question to this answer.
Speaker 2: Well, I certainly the opportunity is there, and I think
Speaker 2: when you look at the Patriots in general, I'm not
Speaker 2: I like Drake may as a prospect. I think the
Speaker 2: betting markets and people's optimism around what Vrabel and this
Speaker 2: coaching staff is going to snap their fingers and do it.
Speaker 2: Drake May bringing in Steph Diggs, drafting Will Campbell. But
Speaker 2: all of that being said, I do like Hunter Henry.
Speaker 2: I think Hunter Henry and what feels like every year
Speaker 2: is undervalued and underappreciated. And as I just mentioned, I
Speaker 2: often end up with four guys, especially in the best
Speaker 2: ball formats. I'll even go five. I just think a
Speaker 2: guy like Hunter Henry. Right, So if you played out
Speaker 2: the season, how many times does Hunter Henry we end
Speaker 2: up with the lead and targets on this offense? Probably
Speaker 2: not too often, but I think he's pretty often the
Speaker 2: number two or number three target. So with tight end premium,
Speaker 2: what's his current where is he currently going off? In
Speaker 2: the big gorilla?
Speaker 1: So big gorilla, big gorilla ADP right now over again,
Speaker 1: over the last three days, you're looking at Hunter Henry
Speaker 1: being as god I just headed here. I'm sorry, Hunter Henry,
Speaker 1: I have to read tight End twenty one thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so right in that same mix with Isaiah likely
Speaker 2: where you know some people do the RB zero, I
Speaker 2: don't mind the T zero where I'm taking like two
Speaker 2: or three guys right in this range. You asked me
Speaker 2: earlier about the receiver, and like, would this be a
Speaker 2: range you might look to take? Take a receiver? Almost never,
Speaker 2: because again, these tight ends are interesting to be down here.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's go to the next category. Here,
Speaker 1: still have league losers, League winners starting off with a bang,
Speaker 1: No shares, JJ Zecher reson for the win, can't get
Speaker 1: enough and rip fan Winkle. Where are we going to?
Speaker 2: Next? League losers?
Speaker 1: League losers? The category that Ryan Kramer is selected. Here
Speaker 1: is the answer, Stay away. This is Ryan Kramer's early
Speaker 1: round bust.
Speaker 2: Who is Saquon Barkley?
Speaker 1: And here we go.
Speaker 2: You can accuse me of being a salty Giants fan,
Speaker 2: but let me remind you Sakuon's four hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: two touches last year were the second most all time
Speaker 2: for a regular season plus postseason. Yeh. The two guys
Speaker 2: that had more than him Eddie George and DeMarco Murray.
Speaker 2: In that following year, both guys dropped significantly efficiently efficiency
Speaker 2: by over zero point seven and one point one yards
Speaker 2: per carry, did not finish all sixteen games, and both
Speaker 2: teams missed the playoffs. I think with running backs especially,
Speaker 2: and we just we just saw this with Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: You have to observed the workload volume thing. And the
Speaker 2: story last year was basically that Kellen Moore's offense wasn't
Speaker 2: exactly working and the team had a meeting and said
Speaker 2: we're just gonna run the ball, and Saquon Barkley had
Speaker 2: one of the greatest seasons in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2: I also would point out as a Giants fan, I
Speaker 2: know this that Saquon does wear down. Saquon doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: play well through nagging injuries, and it seems very unlikely
Speaker 2: he's able to stay clean once again this season. So
Speaker 2: if you're asking for an alternative there at the top
Speaker 2: of the board, happy to take Bijon can even be
Speaker 2: talked into a Jamior Gibbs situation if that's what you fancy.
Speaker 2: But and for me generally taking receiver there. But yeah,
Speaker 2: bust of the year certainly going to be Saquon.
Speaker 1: Why at bernalone from a player profiler was my guest
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, Ryan and we played a game
Speaker 1: called to a Frame the Draft Too Afraid Not to Draft,
Speaker 1: and Barkley was on that list for me where I
Speaker 1: had the three pick in multiple leagues and one league
Speaker 1: I went with Barkley, and I have not drafted him
Speaker 1: at that three spot since.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: Here's what it comes down to for me. If you
Speaker 1: believe Saquon Barkley is an alien or not, if you
Speaker 1: believe he has that Derrick Henry Marshaan DNA where he
Speaker 1: is not from this world, then okay, take him out
Speaker 1: to one oh three. I did in one league just
Speaker 1: to make sure I had something for Barkley this year.
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to it, I don't believe
Speaker 1: that he is going to be one of these guys
Speaker 1: that rebounds from this four hundred and eighty plus or
Speaker 1: whatever he had touch season last year, including the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I mean, you look at I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of his fantasy points were because of these
Speaker 1: massive thirty yard breakaway touchdowns. Like that just doesn't replicate.
Speaker 1: That's not a sticky stat. He's twenty nine years old too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if we look at this halfway
Speaker 1: through the season, most of us are going to be like, God,
Speaker 1: why would I have ever taken bar Barkley at high
Speaker 1: that high? When I had this staring me in the
Speaker 1: face this whole time? So while I was on the fence,
Speaker 1: three weeks agoing I am firmly on the whole I'm
Speaker 1: too afraid to draft him, and I will happily take
Speaker 1: Gibbs over him. I will take Lamb over him. I'll
Speaker 1: obviously take Bijon Robinson over him at the one oh
Speaker 1: three too, so like and Justin Jefferson two is another
Speaker 1: guy that it'ds trongly considered over. In fact, I probably
Speaker 1: take him over Barkley this year as well. Okay, the
Speaker 1: other thing that we get from the YouTube chat tonight,
Speaker 1: I think it was an Adam yeah, for his first
Speaker 1: early round bust. He said, who is Pooka Nakua? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about that?
Speaker 2: I don't mind that either. I think you know, I've
Speaker 2: always been at DeVante Adams stand and you read what
Speaker 2: they're saying about Devanta Adams. It sounds a lot like
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is a popular target, especially in the red
Speaker 2: zone stuff. And I think you just think about that
Speaker 2: feels like a little bit more of a fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty split than the ADP is suggest right now. I
Speaker 2: understand why you're excited about Puka, but he's being drafted
Speaker 2: at his ceiling obviously there in the first round and
Speaker 2: more so for me, I'm always the comparison shopper when
Speaker 2: I see the other receiver, Like I can get Neighbors
Speaker 2: generally when Puka is going off and you know, Neighbors
Speaker 2: is catching FI getting fifty percent of the targets in
Speaker 2: training camp, the neighbors could flirt with the target record
Speaker 2: this year and he had a think about he had
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy targets last year and only one
Speaker 2: hundred and nine catches. That's incredibly inefficient because of the
Speaker 2: quarterback play. I like to me that that's where the
Speaker 2: comparisons start. And again, I'm not taking Puka over Neighbors.
Speaker 2: I'm not really taking Puka over any of those guys
Speaker 2: there in that range of Manra whoever else you want
Speaker 2: to to leak in there. So yeah, no, I like
Speaker 2: that as an option for I don't see it as
Speaker 2: a complete bust, but yeah, someone who's going to disappoint
Speaker 2: you definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I'm with Adam on this too. And
Speaker 1: this is another guy where I've taken a Kua in
Speaker 1: exactly one draft so far because I just want to
Speaker 1: get him somewhere and then after that then I go
Speaker 1: with the you know name Brian Thomas. I'm on Ross
Speaker 1: Saint Brown and so if Nikua hits Hey, at least
Speaker 1: I had him on one team. Okay, let's get back
Speaker 1: to the game here. League winners starting off with a bang,
Speaker 1: No shares, JJ Zecker, Reason for the win, can't get enough,
Speaker 1: and Rip Van Winkle are the remaining categories.
Speaker 2: Let's do league winners.
Speaker 1: League winners is the next category up here? We go
Speaker 1: want to win your league? If so, Ryan Kramer says,
Speaker 1: to draft this player in the mid rounds.
Speaker 2: Ah mean, you know, the mid rounds become difficult for
Speaker 2: me because I end up liking the same guy so much,
Speaker 2: and I would have never told you I would have
Speaker 2: liked this guy. But we're gonna go to Carolina. Is
Speaker 2: Bryce Young maybe better than CJ. Stroud are We're gonna
Speaker 2: be having that conversation later this year. I think we
Speaker 2: might because of t mac Tat McMillan is a guy
Speaker 2: who when you look at a situation and you try
Speaker 2: to identify someone that can get an obscene amount of targets,
Speaker 2: think about neighbors. Last year. He did not have a
Speaker 2: fast paced offense, He did not have a great running game,
Speaker 2: He did not have good quarterback play. You could argue
Speaker 2: Carolina has all of those things that the Giants had
Speaker 2: last year. He just had a tremendous amount of volume.
Speaker 2: And when you read about what this offense is fixing
Speaker 2: to look like, when you hear Canalis talk about what
Speaker 2: McMillan's going to bring to this offense and how he
Speaker 2: runs the routes that Bryce Young sees so well, those intermediate,
Speaker 2: those short incuts, outcuts. I think Ted McMillan could end
Speaker 2: up with a very Neighbors like season where he sees
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy targets. Remember, Neighbors missed two games last
Speaker 2: year and put up those numbers. So the idea that
Speaker 2: McMillan puts up the sheer volume to be a second
Speaker 2: round pick, no problem, and you can get them what fifth,
Speaker 2: sixth round right now, I assume they're in the FFPC.
Speaker 2: That's someone who I'm clicking an awful lot as I'm
Speaker 2: building my hopefully four receivers there in the first six
Speaker 2: seven rounds.
Speaker 1: Bryce Young absolutely came on like gangbusters at the end
Speaker 1: of last season without the services of tet Roha McMillan.
Speaker 1: He was doing it with Jalen Coker, he was doing
Speaker 1: it with Javior Leaguette, who I think underwhelmed for the
Speaker 1: most part last year from what a lot of people
Speaker 1: were expecting, and then of course the corpse of Adam Thielen.
Speaker 1: Now you add McMillan to that mix, and you think
Speaker 1: about the division that Carolina plays in going up against Tampa,
Speaker 1: who you know, has their holes on defense, New Orleans
Speaker 1: who is a complete mess as well, and Atlanta will
Speaker 1: see on that. I know somebody said earlier in the
Speaker 1: chat that Atlanta's gonna have a top ten defense this year.
Speaker 1: As Steve Harvey would say, slow your role player. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that with that at all. So when we
Speaker 1: talk about TETROA McMillan, Yeah, now he is climbing. His
Speaker 1: ADP is getting it. It's as high as it's been
Speaker 1: I think since he's been drafted. And I'm looking this
Speaker 1: up on Mojo, he's actually climbed into that four or
Speaker 1: five turn right now. So you're starting at to pay
Speaker 1: a little bit of a premium on it. But it
Speaker 1: still could work out, and he's still you know, could
Speaker 1: fall a little bit, especially if We're hearing good stuff
Speaker 1: about Cocher and feeling, and maybe that drives down Tetro
Speaker 1: and McMillan's price.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not here to look in the crystal ball,
Speaker 1: but I think that as far as McMillan goes, he
Speaker 1: is one of these players that I feel like I
Speaker 1: wish I had more of it. I got some of them,
Speaker 1: but I wish I had more of them. Okay, moving on,
Speaker 1: we got five categories no, yeah, five, excuse me? Five
Speaker 1: categories left? Starting off with a bang, no shares, JJ
Speaker 1: Zecher reason for the win, can't get enough and rip
Speaker 1: Van Winkle, Ryan, where are we going next?
Speaker 2: Let's do it? Can't get enough?
Speaker 1: Can't get enough? The answer. This will be Ryan Kramer's
Speaker 1: most owned player in fantasy football this season.
Speaker 2: Braylan Allen. I've drafted any time. You know, There's probably
Speaker 2: been a couple of leagues where I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: get him because I was drafting with my co host
Speaker 2: and he likes him just as much. You know, you
Speaker 2: think about what the Lions offensive model is. You have
Speaker 2: kind of the big David Montgomery role, you have the
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs role, now Brees Hall is the Jamier Gibbs,
Speaker 2: Braylan Allen is the is the banger, and so I'm
Speaker 2: already getting the touchdown role. But now you're starting to
Speaker 2: hear I mean, besides all the random draft stuff we
Speaker 2: heard about maybe a trade of Breese Hall, now you're
Speaker 2: hearing how much the coaching staff loves Braylan Allen. Could
Speaker 2: Braylan Allen be the number one running back regardless here
Speaker 2: in this situation, in an offense that's going to be
Speaker 2: built to run the ball. I mean, I think if
Speaker 2: they have success, it's going to be a lot of
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns, which immediately makes me think ten touchdown potential.
Speaker 2: We're drafting Braylan Allen where I would imagine somewhere down
Speaker 2: in the twelfth through fifteenth rounds. This is a guy
Speaker 2: who very easy but right now I know my ownership
Speaker 2: on him on all sites is probably somewhere around seventy
Speaker 2: five to eighty percent.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, So right now I'm looking at the Jets running
Speaker 1: backs ADP. Breese Hall running back thirteen at the three
Speaker 1: oh six, Brailn Allen, running back fifty five at the
Speaker 1: thirteen oh six, exactly ten rounds after Breese Hall is going,
Speaker 1: and then Isaiah Davis running back eighty at the nineteen
Speaker 1: oh nine, so he's basically free at that point. You're okay,
Speaker 1: So there's this, I don't want to say a ground swell,
Speaker 1: but there has been over the last month or so
Speaker 1: a lot of people talking to Breese Hall and people
Speaker 1: are disrespecting him. And this is a new coaching staff
Speaker 1: and they're gonna use him a lot more. What we
Speaker 1: saw at the end of last season with previous regime
Speaker 1: was that Hall was being used, but Allan was significantly involved.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Davis was significantly involved. You are of the opinion
Speaker 1: that Brailn Allen price wise, sticker price wise, that is
Speaker 1: the guy you want. He's going, Like I said thirteen
Speaker 1: oh six, right now, that's a better value too than
Speaker 1: Breese Hall. That's a better value to you in the
Speaker 1: Jets backfield than Isaiah Davis.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, third round for Breese Hall, No, thank you.
Speaker 2: I got to see him doing Jumior Gibbs things before
Speaker 2: I'll believe that he's going to be the full Jamier
Speaker 2: Gibbs role. Whereas I've already heard the coaches basically say
Speaker 2: that Brayleen Allen it's going to be the David Montgomery role.
Speaker 2: And I just think when you the style of running,
Speaker 2: it matches, I think what they want to do on
Speaker 2: the offensive line, it matches the style that Justin Fields
Speaker 2: will bring to it. And yeah, I think I'm getting
Speaker 2: the goal line back, and so it feels like a
Speaker 2: much safer bet to take the goal line back. Plus,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe fifty percent of the carries in the
Speaker 2: thirteenth round versus the guy who might catch a couple
Speaker 2: more passes in the third round.
Speaker 1: A couple of things to piggyback on that point too.
Speaker 1: With Justin Fields in the conversation as the starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: you know that dump offs for him are probably not
Speaker 1: going to be super likely. Running quarterbacks rarely will dump
Speaker 1: it off. They'd just rather run with it. Who does
Speaker 1: that hurt? And that doesn't hurt Braylan Allen, It might
Speaker 1: hurt Isaiah Davis. It definitely will hurt Freestall And if
Speaker 1: this engine is to go, if the Jets are going
Speaker 1: to be a successful team this year, pounding the ball
Speaker 1: with Braylen Allen, you need to think about Tanner Engstrand.
Speaker 1: As the new oco comes from Detroit, what did we
Speaker 1: see in Detroit last year, we saw a lot of
Speaker 1: David Montgomery in the first and fourth quarters. And if
Speaker 1: that's the Braylan Allen that we see this year, where
Speaker 1: they're softening up that defense in the first quarter with
Speaker 1: Allen and then just you know, pounding it into submission
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter with Allen. Thirteenth round pick. I
Speaker 1: can get on board with that for sure. And the
Speaker 1: other thing with Breesce Hall too, like, has he had
Speaker 1: a Gibbs esque year in the league yet? No he hasn't.
Speaker 1: Now still third round, so you're paying you know, two
Speaker 1: full rounds less of a price than the Jamior Gibbs.
Speaker 1: But to that point, there's a lot of other people
Speaker 1: that you can be drafting in the third round who
Speaker 1: we have seen big years from and you can stay
Speaker 1: away from Breese Hall at that price tag. Not saying
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that in every single one of my leagues,
Speaker 1: but most of them. Yeah. Maybe.
Speaker 2: Well you also have the bres Hall being the top
Speaker 2: pick last year kind of like that burning of Okay,
Speaker 2: well you really I'm not getting fooled by that nonsense.
Speaker 2: So I think for me a little bit, I got
Speaker 2: to see it as well. He was exciting it was.
Speaker 2: It was an offense I mean, it was a popular
Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year pick. If you remember, people
Speaker 2: were betting it all the way down to fifteen to one.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, Adam Han chiming in saying that he
Speaker 1: believes Fields will throw to his backs. I know he
Speaker 1: has done that in the past too, and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: he's right on that. I could be wrong. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens on that. But my point is this, whether
Speaker 1: Fields throws to his backs or not, that is not
Speaker 1: where Brylan Allen makes his hate, so it doesn't really
Speaker 1: affect him at all. That's my take on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: moving on, Four categories left in Fantasy Jeopardy the Ryan
Speaker 1: Kramer Edition. Your categories that are still out there, starting
Speaker 1: off with A bang, no shares, JJ zecher reason for
Speaker 1: the win, and rip Van Winkle. Ryan, you tell us
Speaker 1: where we're going next.
Speaker 2: No shares.
Speaker 1: No shares is the category. The answer is this, According
Speaker 1: to Ryan Kramer, this player won't be on any of
Speaker 1: his rosters this season.
Speaker 2: So there's a number of guys I could nominate for
Speaker 2: this award, but I'll go with Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 1: This is spicy.
Speaker 2: You can miss me with this Jaden Daniels. I mean,
Speaker 2: we did this with CJ. Stroud. We have to pump
Speaker 2: the brakes on these. I agree he looked very phenomenal,
Speaker 2: but this was a Washington team that this time last
Speaker 2: year we were throwing shade at the roster. We were
Speaker 2: saying it was very fragile. None of those things really changed.
Speaker 2: We were talking about how Jaden Daniels himself might be
Speaker 2: a little fragile. He somehow survived the season in spite
Speaker 2: of having some pretty disastrous early season passing efforts. And
Speaker 2: you want to talk about a team that had some
Speaker 2: positive things happen and maybe some regression is due. They
Speaker 2: literally won on one of the crazier Hail Mary's you'll
Speaker 2: ever see. And so I appreciate the rushing floor, and
Speaker 2: I understand why he's being drafted where he's being drafted,
Speaker 2: but you can't, I cannot get to a place where
Speaker 2: he's going ahead of really any of the other rushing quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: And I would include Jalen Hurts in that mix. I
Speaker 2: think even just the idea that he is consistently going
Speaker 2: ahead of Joe Burrow, I mean, Patrick Mahomes is not
Speaker 2: sniffing where Jayden Daniels is going, and so perhaps also
Speaker 2: just a general ideology of I'm not taking one of
Speaker 2: these top quarterbacks probably unless it's Lamar or Josh and
Speaker 2: so to see how early and in some cases Jaden
Speaker 2: Daniels going ahead of the ffpc's draft. I was just
Speaker 2: in Bestball Draft Jade Daniels went first quarterback overall, and
Speaker 2: to me that feels a little crazy, knowing that he's
Speaker 2: not going to be a goal on the main goal
Speaker 2: line option. We know quarterbacks that aren't named Josh Allen
Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurts tend to not score anything more than
Speaker 2: five or six touchdowns, and I expect his passing efficiency
Speaker 2: to go down. You mentioned that the Terry McLaurin stuff,
Speaker 2: but I just there was a lot a lucky stuff
Speaker 2: that went on with him last year. And if we
Speaker 2: end up seeing a CJ. Stroud like second year that
Speaker 2: involves some slump, some turnover and just not quite the
Speaker 2: same efficiency, that would make sense to me. And so, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe he's carried by a ten you know, a thousand
Speaker 2: yard ten rushing touchdown performance, but I'm willing to bet
Speaker 2: against that, and I currently do not have him on
Speaker 2: a single roster.
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference, right, is Daniels has this
Speaker 1: rushing upside that Stroud just does not. That does not
Speaker 1: mean that Daniels could not have a Stroudzian year this year,
Speaker 1: where maybe the rushing still there, but the passings down,
Speaker 1: or maybe the rushings not all the way. You know,
Speaker 1: there's I am not a smart man, and a lot
Speaker 1: of times I will tell you in fantasy football, when
Speaker 1: stuff looks to be so good one year and the
Speaker 1: people asked me to explain why it's not that good
Speaker 1: the following year, I just simply say, regression to the meat.
Speaker 1: And that could be simply all it is. Is Daniels,
Speaker 1: like you said, got a lot of stuff going his
Speaker 1: way last year. Maybe he doesn't this year. He's got
Speaker 1: a fresh number two receiver in Deebo Samuel. On paper,
Speaker 1: that looks like a good thing. In real life, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that doesn't work out. Laramie Tunsell
Speaker 1: has joined the Commanders as well. That sounds great for
Speaker 1: blocking for Daniels, but what if it improves the running
Speaker 1: game and takes away some of the stats that we
Speaker 1: would like to have Jaden Daniels get As he is
Speaker 1: being drafted currently as quarterback three at the four h
Speaker 1: four could be an unintended fantasy consequence of getting Laramie
Speaker 1: Tunzel on that it's actually worse for Daniel's fantasy stock. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything is a lot to happen here,
Speaker 1: And to your point, I have not been avoiding Daniels, Ryan,
Speaker 1: but I haven't really gotten him anywhere as well. And
Speaker 1: this is coming from a guy who's already got Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: already got Lamar Jackson in a couple of spots. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've got Jadan Daniels anywhere yet. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Three categories left on Fantasy Jeopardy. The Kramer centric addition
Speaker 1: starting off with a bang, JJ Zecher, reason for the win,
Speaker 1: and Rip Van Winkle are the final three.
Speaker 2: Categor SU's starting off with a bang.
Speaker 1: Ryan Kramer says this player and not Jamar Chase, should
Speaker 1: be going at the one oh one in FFPC drafts.
Speaker 2: Well, the easy answer here is Molik Neighbors.
Speaker 1: But I would say, no, hold on, I gotta stop you.
Speaker 1: That is not the easy answer.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 1: There's no way that that's the easy answer. Who was
Speaker 1: taking Molik Neighbors at the one O one.
Speaker 2: Me as a Homer Giants fan. But the real answer,
Speaker 2: if I'm in that situation, I am taking I have
Speaker 2: two guys nominated. Neither is Jamar Chase. I'm taking Gibbs
Speaker 2: or Robinson. And the reason I'm putting both up there
Speaker 2: is so I can end up with both of those guys.
Speaker 2: To me, I'm not really interested in any of the
Speaker 2: other running backs until it falls all the way down
Speaker 2: to Achan. So yeah, one one, I'm either on Gibbs
Speaker 2: or Robinson pretty much like a running a receiver in
Speaker 2: every other position outside of that for the next like
Speaker 2: seven eight picks after but Gibson Robinson, I think the
Speaker 2: ceiling is pretty pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1: Ran what happens if you do draw the number one
Speaker 1: and you've made up your mind, I'm not taking Chase here,
Speaker 1: so you have to take Robinson or Gibbs. Does Robinson
Speaker 1: do enough to tip the scales in favor of him
Speaker 1: over Gibbs.
Speaker 2: Robinson's consistency last year he only had I think two
Speaker 2: games where he was sub ten points. He had a
Speaker 2: number of games north of twenty points. Very consistent output
Speaker 2: from him in a season that I frankly it was
Speaker 2: me reviewing the season. That really made me appreciate the
Speaker 2: year he had because I didn't really go after him
Speaker 2: too much. I was kind of a big tyler Al's
Speaker 2: year stand like running back zero, best Ball, give me
Speaker 2: some of that. But Bijon was good. And you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's the big play potential which you need, or
Speaker 2: the fact that he's just fed enough volume every game
Speaker 2: to get there and never really disappoint you. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm looking for in my first round pick. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some Chase too. But like filtering in
Speaker 2: some Bjeon and some Gibbs.
Speaker 1: There was one I had gotten the number one, picking
Speaker 1: like three drafts, and I think the first two I
Speaker 1: took Chase one was a manager League, one was Best Ball,
Speaker 1: and then the third one I think was Best Ball,
Speaker 1: and I just like, you know what, I'm sick of
Speaker 1: drafting Chase. I've got no shares of Bijon Robinson anywhere.
Speaker 1: So I took Robinson at the one to one in
Speaker 1: that third one, and I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: The listen, you want to talk about the skill set
Speaker 1: and what these guys can do on the field, Robinson
Speaker 1: gives it's very, very close The difference for me is
Speaker 1: something you alluded to, b Jon Robinson as Tyler Algier, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, and just to illustrate my point on this,
Speaker 1: Tyler Algier is running back fifty one at the twelve ten.
Speaker 1: That's who Bjon Robinson has as his running mate. Jamiir
Speaker 1: Gibbs as his running mate, has David Montgomery running back
Speaker 1: twenty six at the six eleven. If I'm going for ceiling,
Speaker 1: if I'm going for getting greedy with as many Fantasy
Speaker 1: points as I can, it's Robinson there. Now. I've drafted
Speaker 1: Gibbs in the top half of the first round several times,
Speaker 1: and I've feel really bullish about it. But if it
Speaker 1: comes down, if I can't take Chase, who am I taking?
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be one of those running backs, and
Speaker 1: I lean towards Robinson over Gibbs in that scenario. Two
Speaker 1: categories left on Fantasy Jeopardy Tonight JJ zachar reason for
Speaker 1: the win is the first one. The second one is
Speaker 1: Rip van Winkle. Ryan, you take us where you want to.
Speaker 2: Go, Let's go Rip van Winkle.
Speaker 1: According to Ryan Kramer, this is the player that FFPC
Speaker 1: players are sleeping on most this year.
Speaker 2: This one is similar to the Braylen Allen play because
Speaker 2: I have a lot of them, but it's Roshan Johnson
Speaker 2: in Chicago you have. Again, I'm leaning into that two
Speaker 2: running back system that Ben Johnson ran in Detroit with
Speaker 2: the Lions. Well, the David Montgomery role in this scenario
Speaker 2: is going to be Roshan Johnson. Rochean cashed me a
Speaker 2: nice two touchdown bet last year. The clear big bruiser
Speaker 2: gonna be the more physical of the two between him
Speaker 2: and Swift. I see a very a high likelihood, especially
Speaker 2: in bestball, but even in managed leagues. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: going off. I'd imagine in that same range as Tyler
Speaker 2: Al's year as the Dylan Samson's the Jayden Blues of
Speaker 2: the world, where he's not quite free. But you're getting
Speaker 2: a very nice price on a guy who's gonna be
Speaker 2: a goal line back. And again, if Ben Johnson runs
Speaker 2: a similar situation, they don't have Jamiir Gibbs. So it's
Speaker 2: likely that Rochean Johnson gets more carries than David Montgomery did,
Speaker 2: or maybe equal to. And if that's the case and
Speaker 2: you're scoring the touchdowns, potentially a nice piece. And like
Speaker 2: I said, in best Ball, it's very easy to click
Speaker 2: that button because you're getting the touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Roshan Johnson running back fifty three behind the aforementioned algier.
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford is right there, although Ford is a sending
Speaker 1: up and then Tank Bigsby brayln Allen your guy right
Speaker 1: behind Rochan Johnson as well, So that is your pick there.
Speaker 1: Kyle Manungai. Adam Hans submitted, who is Kyle guy on this?
Speaker 1: How does Manonguy? And this I told Adam and the
Speaker 1: YouTube chat earlier. I'm starting to like Manungay a little
Speaker 1: bit more. He was kind of a I watched him
Speaker 1: play at Rutgers last year and he never struck me
Speaker 1: as the type of guy that could translate that level
Speaker 1: of talent to the NFL. But now I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been showing out in practice. There's the
Speaker 1: opportunity you mentioned Johnson, but I think Manunguy is worth
Speaker 1: bringing up in this conversation.
Speaker 2: And this is where you have the well they did
Speaker 2: bring him in, right, You have that element of you know,
Speaker 2: where where did the player come from? Was he brought
Speaker 2: in by the new regime. I just think that role,
Speaker 2: like Roshawn Johnson is is. I feel like this has
Speaker 2: happened a couple of years where he gets put to
Speaker 2: the side and then all of a sudden you see
Speaker 2: him entering the fray as the short yardage back. And
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm I'm gonna roll the dice again and
Speaker 2: say his work. Look, I you know, maybe everyone's getting
Speaker 2: worked in here, but I find it hard to believe
Speaker 2: that he loses out on that short yardage goal line role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm anong guy. I don't think takes that away
Speaker 1: from him. No, And if you look at I was god,
Speaker 1: who is talking about this the other day? If you
Speaker 1: look at Roshawn Johnson's yards per carry, it's not great,
Speaker 1: but he was getting all the short yardage stuff like
Speaker 1: you know where there's like third and one fourth and
Speaker 1: one third and goal, second and goal where they you know,
Speaker 1: they put him in. So obviously his yards per carry
Speaker 1: are going to be deflated a little bit. So I
Speaker 1: think there's something to be to be said about that
Speaker 1: as well. The Bears backfield. Of all the questions we
Speaker 1: have about Chicago, that might be the most important one,
Speaker 1: and it might be the least talked about one too.
Speaker 1: With the receivers and the tight ends, the quarterbacks, so
Speaker 1: on and so forth, something that will be monitoring here
Speaker 1: on the Insider Access show on the Better Sports Network
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the drafting season. Last category here,
Speaker 1: we'll call it Final Jeopardy. The category JJ Zecherisen for
Speaker 1: the win. Here's the clue. If you wait on drafting
Speaker 1: a quarterback, this is the signal caller Ryan Kramer will
Speaker 1: tell you to draft.
Speaker 2: Now. This all depends on how long you want to wait.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty high on Trevor Lawrence this year, but assuming
Speaker 2: you're in some sort of managed league, I think that's
Speaker 2: the answer is Caleb Williams. I think between what he
Speaker 2: does offer you with his legs and just the idea
Speaker 2: that this offense could take a big step forward, and
Speaker 2: he put up some numbers last year, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: it's easy to remember the negatives, but as far as
Speaker 2: some of the volume counting stats, he's not that far off.
Speaker 2: I believe he's going somewhere in the twelve twelfth round range,
Speaker 2: and you know, you want to talk about the clear
Speaker 2: upside of him. If we're drafting Caleb Williams in the
Speaker 2: same range that we're taking you know, Burrow Mahomes next year.
Speaker 2: Because he's able to run for six seven hundred yards
Speaker 2: scrambling around there and getting in the end zone a
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, and then plus a little efficiency on
Speaker 2: the touchdown side, and just the offense in general. I
Speaker 2: like that. I like that version of the narrative. And
Speaker 2: I'm not even the biggest Caleb fan.
Speaker 1: The ADP for Caleb Williams right now, quarterback thirteen to
Speaker 1: your point, Ryan in the mid twelfth round. Some of
Speaker 1: the other answers we're getting in the YouTube chat right now.
Speaker 1: We'll get to Dak Prescott in a little bit. But
Speaker 1: Adam Han also said, who is Drake May? Who is
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. What about those two guys?
Speaker 2: So Drake May, I fully appreciate anyone that wants to
Speaker 2: play that angle as well. I think I fully expect
Speaker 2: to see a little bit of that Tannehill Tennessee deployed
Speaker 2: where you're going to see the scrambling, You'll see the
Speaker 2: legs used. They'll have good wheelhouse throws for Drake May
Speaker 2: to throw to make and I you know, I like
Speaker 2: the upside there as well because of the legs. JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm I'm not necessarily drinking the kool
Speaker 2: aid of how great he looks in training camp and
Speaker 2: how awesome that offense tends to make guys look. That's
Speaker 2: another one where I would prefer to draft pretty much
Speaker 2: all of the other He's going so early for me
Speaker 2: that I like, the guys in his range are more
Speaker 2: interesting to me, and you're not necessarily needing to pick
Speaker 2: up the unknown. And you know, with quarterbacks, give me
Speaker 2: the guys who are actually playing in their second year
Speaker 2: versus like a you know, I'm treating him like a rookie,
Speaker 2: and I'm not necessarily loving rookie quarterbacks most years.
Speaker 1: What about and somebody brought this up to oh Adam
Speaker 1: Haunt and Bill Hollywood talking about Michael Pennix, What do
Speaker 1: you consider him in his second year? Because he barely
Speaker 1: played in real life last year, he.
Speaker 2: Got some reps. He's an interesting one because I think
Speaker 2: the ceiling for what that offense could be is huge.
Speaker 2: And I think when we saw him play, he was
Speaker 2: very boom bust. He made great throws, and he looked awesome,
Speaker 2: and then he looked horrible and incredibly inaccurate at times.
Speaker 2: And so to me, you know, he's a guy I
Speaker 2: actually have a bet on to have the most interceptions
Speaker 2: in the league this year. But at that being said,
Speaker 2: he would be more interesting to me than JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: I think there's just a natural, big, higher ceiling there.
Speaker 2: So that is going to wrap up Fantasy Jeopardy tonight.
Speaker 2: I think it was a lot of fun. I had
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: You are going to state your case for or against
Speaker 1: these players.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Listen, Malik Neighbors, we have talked about to death. We
Speaker 1: know how you feel about that. You can spin us
Speaker 1: a yarn where everybody will want to take him at
Speaker 1: the one on one. Let's skip that. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Bears. We talked earlier about Luther Birden, We touched
Speaker 1: on maybe a little bit of DJ Moore, But the
Speaker 1: guy I really want to go with here is Rome Donsay,
Speaker 1: a player that the Bears drafted in the top ten
Speaker 1: last year was out on the field a ton in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Maybe the victim of some bad Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams play, maybe not maybe something that was on him.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's there's something else going on here. I
Speaker 1: don't even know how you feel about this player, but
Speaker 1: Ryan Kramer state your case four or against Roma Dunsay
Speaker 1: and fantasy leagues in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Five, it's almost hard to like. There is a lot
Speaker 2: going on and a lot wrong with the offense last year.
Speaker 2: But I think in general, I like the idea of
Speaker 2: drafting a receiver with the quarterback, having them come in together.
Speaker 2: And you saw it in some of those bigger games,
Speaker 2: some of those you know, ten to eleven target games.
Speaker 2: You see the potential of what could be That game
Speaker 2: against the Colts early in the year comes to mind,
Speaker 2: where six catches, one hundred and twelve yards and a touchdown,
Speaker 2: And you know, I, personally, I don't understand the huge
Speaker 2: gap between where DJ Moore is being drafted in Roma Doonsay.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of generally a sucker for the second guy
Speaker 2: in these types of situations. But if we end the
Speaker 2: season in Romadonsay is the number one in this offense.
Speaker 2: I know there's also Colston lovelin there, but I mean
Speaker 2: I like what he brings. I like the type of
Speaker 2: receiver he is for the type of weather you know,
Speaker 2: NFC North cold, but you need a big, physical guy.
Speaker 2: And I like the idea that this offense takes a
Speaker 2: step forward and you know you can feature DJ Moore
Speaker 2: and more of the A Monra role maybe, although even
Speaker 2: that doesn't really comp out, but a Donsay being the big,
Speaker 2: physical outside guy I'm even thinking of like Josh Reynolds
Speaker 2: and the way that he was deployed, especially around the
Speaker 2: red zone. I love a Dunsay this year and if we,
Speaker 2: like I said, if we finished the year and he's
Speaker 2: the alpha in this offense, that would not surprise me
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: The next two players I want to bring up I
Speaker 1: feel like I should bring up as a tandem. The
Speaker 1: one player was the only receiver drafted ahead of Roma
Speaker 1: Dunza in the twenty twenty four NFL draft, and that
Speaker 1: was Marvin Harrison. I think underwhelming is probably the best
Speaker 1: descriptor for the majority of fantasy players who drafted him
Speaker 1: last season, and they're hoping for a bounce back, myself included.
Speaker 1: And then Kyler Murray, the guy throwing him the ball.
Speaker 1: I have been fairly bullish on both these players. Especially
Speaker 1: Harrison in my draft so far this year. Ryan, But
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong or maybe you disagree with that. State
Speaker 1: your case again for or against Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2: I get fooled by Kyler every year. You know, he
Speaker 2: scampers around. He almost kind of looks like a gymnast.
Speaker 2: I just love the weapons on this team. I mean,
Speaker 2: Trey McBride. I don't know how I feel about Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison coming in weighing more weight than he weighed last year.
Speaker 2: He didn't exactly look like the fastest guy, but he
Speaker 2: was a smooth route runner in college. You have to
Speaker 2: imagine he's going to be able to get open and
Speaker 2: just in general, I like this team to be a
Speaker 2: little bit improved. Now, as far as what this means,
Speaker 2: how does this translate into the fantasy streets, I'm finding
Speaker 2: myself drafting a lot more Trey McBride with Kyler Murray
Speaker 2: than I am Marvin Harrison. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's because you know, I wasn't all that into Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison when he was coming out. I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: you always have these red flags, these legacy guys who
Speaker 2: aren't gonna work out. Yeah, he was good in college,
Speaker 2: but we've seen that before where it doesn't always translate.
Speaker 2: And honestly, the worst possible scenario happened last year where
Speaker 2: he kind of looked like the player that was maybe
Speaker 2: a little slow. Maybe the reason he didn't run and
Speaker 2: work out was he was worried about what those test
Speaker 2: scores might be. So I'm not The case against Harrison
Speaker 2: too is that I think there's plenty of other guys
Speaker 2: that could eat in this offense. They might be a
Speaker 2: run first or at least run heavy. You have the
Speaker 2: tight end. I even have a guy like Michael Wilson,
Speaker 2: who we you know, I've been liking for some years.
Speaker 2: So Marvin Harrison hasn't found too many of my teams.
Speaker 2: But I like Kyler too much to not end up
Speaker 2: with him, because you know, I like stacking Kyler with
Speaker 2: one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and Harrison is I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: either one of these guys is easy to stack with Murray.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you got to have one of them,
Speaker 1: and then it comes down to how high you want
Speaker 1: to you want to take Murray. We know Marvin Harrison's
Speaker 1: bulked up. I am still of the opinion that Arizona
Speaker 1: and like Sigamond Boom from football Guys, would would cost
Speaker 1: me on this. But I'm assume rational coaching that that
Speaker 1: that Harrison was misused by last year's coaching staff, that
Speaker 1: they cannot just have him run all these fade routes
Speaker 1: where he's got this little tiny window for Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: to throw into between the corner and the sideline. You
Speaker 1: got to get some stuff going over the middle for him,
Speaker 1: and I think that they do that this year. I
Speaker 1: am still bullish on a bounce back. I'm a big
Speaker 1: regression guy, like positive or negative. I just feel like
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is. He does not strike me as a
Speaker 1: bust and I feel like, because I believe that, and
Speaker 1: because of his down season last year, this year should
Speaker 1: be huge and that's why I'm buying into him. And
Speaker 1: Murray wants to run more this year too, which makes
Speaker 1: him a little bit more valuable. Let's get into Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott here. I know you're a Giants fan, so you
Speaker 1: probably don't have a whole lot positive to say about
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Well we'll find out. Can you make a
Speaker 1: case for or against Dak Prescott this year? And let
Speaker 1: me couch this right now and tell you Ryan that
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is quarterback ten at the eleven h three
Speaker 1: and big gerrilla drafts right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I know a lot of people are
Speaker 2: saying that he tends to be every other year pops
Speaker 2: up to the top of the board as a monster year. Great,
Speaker 2: good for you. His coach said he's developing, which was
Speaker 2: again Brian Schottenheimer has been making some comical statements this offseason.
Speaker 2: But I think that combined with all the other swirl
Speaker 2: down there, the maybe lack of a running game, the
Speaker 2: fact that you know, there's we haven't even really touched
Speaker 2: on the DA contract future, with the team situation there,
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of non football stuff that to me,
Speaker 2: would could potentially enable Dak having in this team having
Speaker 2: a bad year. Now, if I was forced with a
Speaker 2: gun to my head to say, why why does he
Speaker 2: succeed fantasy wise? Well, maybe Michael Parsons decides to sit
Speaker 2: out for the regular season. The defense turns out to
Speaker 2: be atrocious, and there's just a lot of garbage out there,
Speaker 2: certainly with George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb and Ferguson who
Speaker 2: he loves to dump it off to there. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be points, there's gonna be yards in this offense, and
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they're one of these
Speaker 2: teams where you almost don't care what kind of team
Speaker 2: they are, uh, looking at that offense. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not really drafting Dak. I do allow my fandom
Speaker 2: to get in the way of like objectively judging some
Speaker 2: of these guys. But you know, I looked at through
Speaker 2: the years where I'm right about Dak, and I say, see,
Speaker 2: I told you so, that's true.
Speaker 1: And we'll see what happens with the with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: this year as well, much more so with Miami. I
Speaker 1: think if I ask you about their quarterback here, this
Speaker 1: is going to tell me all I need to know
Speaker 1: about what you think about the Dolphins offense in general,
Speaker 1: regarding Tyreek Hill, regarding Darren Waller, regarding Jalen Wonnell, what
Speaker 1: kind of a case could you make for or maybe
Speaker 1: you just want to go against twa tongue Biloa this year.
Speaker 1: We know that that Dolphins offense radically changed when he
Speaker 1: was out last year, and then when he came back,
Speaker 1: it was still different than what it was at the
Speaker 1: start of the season. I'll let you state your.
Speaker 2: Case, there is something you know, watching Tua play football
Speaker 2: is like watching an AI video where you're like this
Speaker 2: is pretty cool, but your brain's like something's off here.
Speaker 2: And with Tua, like he obviously is good, the difference
Speaker 2: between what that team looks like with and without him
Speaker 2: is remarkable. And you know, I'll be honest, I'm this
Speaker 2: is a team that could have the first coach fired,
Speaker 2: and this is a team that we could be talking
Speaker 2: about as a playoff team putting up astronomical offensive numbers.
Speaker 2: In fact, we've created some controversy on our show, the
Speaker 2: Sports Gampling Podcast. We all like Jalen Waddle offensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Year. Sean made it to Vegas first bet.
Speaker 2: It moved the number from six hundred to one to
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty to one. Made the rest of
Speaker 2: us very angry. But I love Achan. I love you know,
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is one of those I like him at
Speaker 2: ADP and I certainly like Waddles, so that means I
Speaker 2: have to like Tua. And this is one of those
Speaker 2: where Tua is always a funny one. The pocket passers
Speaker 2: who have ridiculous weapons but somehow are getting drafted way
Speaker 2: down the board. It's like, well, how do we like Hill?
Speaker 2: How do we like Achan in the second? Hill in
Speaker 2: the third, and Waddle in the fifth. But we're drafting
Speaker 2: Tua outside the top, you know, twelve quarterbacks. That doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense to me. So and especially in a
Speaker 2: managed league, Well, guess what when Tua bangs his head
Speaker 2: and isn't playing, you get another quarterback. So I like,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not drafting in that same scenario
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier, if you're not drafting one of
Speaker 2: the early ones, I ending up with Tua with a
Speaker 2: reasonable you know, pairing with his team even maybe that's
Speaker 2: fine with me. I mean we're only a couple of
Speaker 2: season removed from Tua leading the league in passing yards, that.
Speaker 1: Is true, and again, proven player coming off a down year.
Speaker 1: I should be in on this guy. And quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I've been drafting Jalen Waddle, maybe not so much Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill because he has his other set of issues. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm more I'm more concerned with Hill than I
Speaker 1: am with Waddle when you take draft capital into the
Speaker 1: equation as well. But yeah, I could definitely see And
Speaker 1: this is a year that Mike McDaniel has to win.
Speaker 1: So how do you win? You get your best players
Speaker 1: the football Jalen Wattle one of the best players there
Speaker 1: as well. Let's stick in the state of Florida and
Speaker 1: ask you about Jacksonville, specifically Michelle Tooton, who is one
Speaker 1: of the favorite running backs to draft early on in
Speaker 1: FFPC Bestball Leagues as well as FFPC Dynasty rookie drafts
Speaker 1: as well. It's an interesting quartet there. You have Tuton,
Speaker 1: you have Lequin Allen joining the Jacksonville backfield through the
Speaker 1: draft this year, with Tank Bigsby and Travis Etn already
Speaker 1: the holdovers there, make your case for or again specifically
Speaker 1: Bischelle Tuton. But Ryan, I think you're going to talk
Speaker 1: about these other three running backs when you explain your
Speaker 1: case as well.
Speaker 2: Well. Not only am I a homer for the New
Speaker 2: York Football Giants, but I graduated from Virginia Tech. And
Speaker 2: mister tugboat Tuton, who came by way of NCA and
Speaker 2: T but then through Virginia Tech. You know, when he
Speaker 2: started getting into the testing phase, it was like, will
Speaker 2: his size be an issue? Because when you watch him
Speaker 2: play football, it doesn't matter that he's small it's a
Speaker 2: little bit of Darren Sproles at Kansas State. He was
Speaker 2: running normal running back stuff. He just happens to be.
Speaker 2: He has the vision. That's what makes him so good.
Speaker 2: He's able to you know, he looks no different than
Speaker 2: a guy you know, two three four inches bigger than him,
Speaker 2: and his contact balance was amazing. Like I said, his
Speaker 2: cutback ability vision. I think that Jaggs drafted him to
Speaker 2: be their dude. And I'm fully bought into the eye
Speaker 2: that idea that you know is etn gonna gonna be
Speaker 2: on this team. Tank Bigsby, I think is interesting in
Speaker 2: terms of you want to ask me what my my shit,
Speaker 2: my my shares of running backs out of the Jags
Speaker 2: room looks like zero percent Etnu probably seventy five percent.
Speaker 2: Tooton twenty five percent Bigsby, And I think, just what
Speaker 2: you like about a dart throw running back or two things?
Speaker 2: Could this guy end up with a workload, but more importantly,
Speaker 2: does he have something significant about him, whether it be touchdowns,
Speaker 2: pass catching or big playability. Well, in Tutan's case, I'll
Speaker 2: throw out a Keaton Mitchell comp here. I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna see too and have some plays that will remind
Speaker 2: us when Keaton Mitchell dropped onto the scene and You're like, WHOA,
Speaker 2: what is this again? I watched him play every game
Speaker 2: in college at Virginia Tech and he was something special.
Speaker 2: And Virginia techs had some special running backs. But I'm
Speaker 2: very excited to see what he can become on the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. And again in that range of what ten
Speaker 2: through four, round fourteen fifteen, where I'm drafting a lot
Speaker 2: of my running backs this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see how that
Speaker 1: works out in Jacksonville. I'm bullish on the Jacksonville offense
Speaker 1: in general. I talked about Travis Hunter earlier. Obviously I
Speaker 1: love Brian Thomas Jr. Trevor Lawrence is one of my
Speaker 1: most owned quarterbacks this year as well. And I've been
Speaker 1: picking and sprinkling in some Jaguars running backs as well
Speaker 1: on a lot of my teams.
Speaker 2: And I read a real quick I read a piece
Speaker 2: about how, you know, the Bucky Irving situation in Tampa.
Speaker 2: A lot of that was, you know, they liked how
Speaker 2: they projected his ability to miss tackles and touton is
Speaker 2: very much that same kind of player. He misses contact
Speaker 2: a lot, and so yeah, I mean, if we could
Speaker 2: see something like a Bucky Irving ascension, that would be
Speaker 2: quite nice.
Speaker 1: So I want to go. I want to wrap things
Speaker 1: up tonight. And well, we still got a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes here. Briefly on Dalton Kinkaid, I have heard the
Speaker 1: argument for againt him. I've heard the argument against him.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you stand on this.
Speaker 2: You're a regression guy, so you got you gotta like
Speaker 2: him a little bit.
Speaker 1: I do like him.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a second round guy and now he's
Speaker 2: a nothing round guy. You know. He the pendulum is
Speaker 2: swinging very hard here Now. I still Khalilak is very
Speaker 2: exciting for me. But I still would take a piece
Speaker 2: of Calton now at at price, Dalton Kinkaid becomes very interesting,
Speaker 2: especially in the FFPC format.
Speaker 1: The the thing with Kinkaid, and I heard Brett Whitefield
Speaker 1: from Fantasy Points talking about this, how he talked to
Speaker 1: people within Buffalo and that said that guy was not
Speaker 1: right injury wise all season. He was always dealing with
Speaker 1: something and because of that you could talk about the
Speaker 1: misuse of Kincaid. Maybe they were protecting Kinkaid because they
Speaker 1: wanted to keep them healthy. But the price definitely matches
Speaker 1: up what I want to do with Kinkaid this year,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure I will have him. If I wait
Speaker 1: on tight End, I will probably go bang bang with
Speaker 1: tight End and get somebody and Kincaid or Kincaid and
Speaker 1: then somebody this year. That's the way I plan on
Speaker 1: attacking Dolton Kinkaid. Okay, a couple of minutes to go
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Speaker 2: every other sport from MMA to golf. And yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it's grassroots. Started in a garage. Still kind of in
Speaker 2: a garage that it, except for we're in an office
Speaker 2: over a coffee shop, so not quite. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it's it's been fun, fun, fun fact about us, we've
Speaker 2: never taken a penny of investments, so we're wholly owned,
Speaker 2: artisanal small business here, much like the the FFPC, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, always always a good time, and if you're interested,
Speaker 2: we are right in the middle of breaking down every team,
Speaker 2: doing thirty two team previews as we build up to
Speaker 2: the NFL season. So yeah, definitely encourage you to check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: The best way to consume that content Sports gambling podcast
Speaker 1: dot com or of course following you on the x
Speaker 1: AT Gambling podcast you stream everything there, and then the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel Just Gambling Podcast as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just if you search sports gambling podcasts in what podcasts, app, YouTube,
Speaker 2: whatever whatever you like to consume your stuff, and you'll
Speaker 2: find us. And yeah, we're live five nights a week Sunday,
Speaker 2: through Thursday and then Friday night on VSON.
Speaker 1: So the Friday night airing that is going to be
Speaker 1: eight o'clock Pacific time right now, and then once football
Speaker 1: season gets cranked up seven.
Speaker 2: O'clock on v seven pm that we are safe for
Speaker 2: the airwaves there. So if you want the R rated version,
Speaker 2: check us out on the YouTube or the podcast. VSON
Speaker 2: always joined by fun smattering of guests will you do
Speaker 2: it live from Vegas? So there's always some of that activity.
Speaker 2: The big boss man at the Circuit, Derek Stevens, often
Speaker 2: checks in and stops by for the opening segment. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great time. And yeah, I still can't believe
Speaker 2: the wife is on board with me going to Vegas
Speaker 2: every Friday night.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's fantastic. What's also is gonna be awesome
Speaker 1: is when we broadcast your show live on the High
Speaker 1: Stakes Fantasy Football or not your show, but the Pros
Speaker 1: Versus Joe's when you are participating. That will kick off
Speaker 1: at nine pm Eastern on Monday night. You and Sean
Speaker 1: the Gambling Podcast guys have the eleven pick. You'll be
Speaker 1: drafting against other pros, including Derek Brown from Fantasy Pros
Speaker 1: Pat Karine from Legendary Upside, Scott Connor will be drafting
Speaker 1: in that as well, Jared Smoller from Draft Sharks, and
Speaker 1: of course the Fantasy grew Room himself, John Hanson. Have
Speaker 1: you and Sean talked any strategy on this yet?
Speaker 2: I think we're I think we're secretly hoping that we
Speaker 2: can just draft aj Brown and Malik Neighbors and call
Speaker 2: it a day and there'll be no no, no real
Speaker 2: hard feelings. But no, I think we're both we're kind
Speaker 2: of on the same page in terms of some of
Speaker 2: the guys we like. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be super difficult to come to a consensus. And you know,
Speaker 2: we're still we're still recovering from the first year where
Speaker 2: we did pros versus Joe's and we were a longer
Speaker 2: shot than the the all the Joes, so pretty insulting.
Speaker 2: Thanks to I'm blanking on the odds makers name Ibmy.
Speaker 1: Here from Tara HOAt, Yeah makes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, i'py Air from Terror. Well he made us
Speaker 2: the long shot. We went up and won that one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we're we're looking to get back on the
Speaker 2: top of the mountain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys already have a league title to your resume.
Speaker 1: You finished two years ago fifth overall, last year a
Speaker 1: top twenty five finish as well, So we're very excited
Speaker 1: to see what you guys do on Monday night, and
Speaker 1: we will continue to follow you on Exit Gambling Podcast
Speaker 1: Sports Gambling Podcast on YouTube VCENT eight o'clock on Friday
Speaker 1: nights specific time, and then of course seven o'clock Friday
Speaker 1: night specific time coming up when football season gets cranked up. Ryan,
Speaker 1: always a pleasure, Thanks so much for hanging out with
Speaker 1: me tonight.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, happy football.
Speaker 1: Let's go happy football. Indeed, the FFPC Midi Event, FFPC
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Speaker 1: tournaments and Dynasty Leagues all available for your pleasure at
Speaker 1: my f FPC dot com. I want to thank Ryan
Speaker 1: Kramer and Matt Deutsch tonight. We'll be back on seven
Speaker 1: o'clock this coming Thursday live f FPC Bestball Tournament coverage.
Speaker 1: All have a couple of buddies on and we're going
Speaker 1: to critique that live on the air, So check that
Speaker 1: out next Thursday at seven o'clock. Thanks so much for watching.
Speaker 1: For Matt Deutsch. For Ryan Kramer, I'm Eric Balkman. This
Speaker 1: has been FFPC Insider Access live on the Better Sports
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