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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirtle You Can't

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Be Serious podcast. I am here with my good buddy

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d Graves, and today we are going track by track

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through Duran Duran's Rio album d I notice you've got

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your cream colored suits on. We got the tropical thing.

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Our good guest here, Melissa Mingles. She's got the cherry

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ice cream lipstick on and her Duran Duran T shirt.

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We are ready to go. D How you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm grand, I'm Rio grand.

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Speaker 2: Today We've got a special guest with us, Miss Melissa Mingled. Melissa,

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you are a huge Deranduran fan and you are here

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diving in with us Rio track by track. How are

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you doing?

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Speaker 4: I am doing so oh well. Thank you for letting

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me horn in. I'm not sure how many times I

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invited myself to join your podcast, but you guys, I know,

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for me and a lot of buddies that listen, you

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guys give us a lot of laughs, a lot of nostalgia.

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It's just such a fun break from life, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I'm just sitting here, I'm marveling over She's got a book.

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I have a book with tabs it's Rio by Annie Zeleski,

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and it's thirty three and a third and it looks fantastic.

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Speaker 4: It is fantastic. The thirty three and a third is

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a series and they have a bunch of albums, and yes,

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I found this little jewel. I work for a publisher,

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so I gotta have a book. I have my Leslie

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note binder with song lyrics and notes and so many

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sticky tabs.

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Speaker 2: You are ready to go.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I've got people's last names written on my hand.

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Speaker 2: Taylor, Yeah, that's easy, Yeah, right, Okay, Well, today we're

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diving into the album Rio. This was released May tenth,

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in nineteen eighty two. We were talking beforehand. It's kind

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of funny because it was released in Britain in May

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of eighty two, but some of the singles were even

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released as late as nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. As a kid, I just you see something on

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MTV and listen to it and think it was cool.

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But even as I was backtracking and looking at the

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timeline of things, some of the songs from Rio were

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written befour songs on their original album.

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Speaker 2: What Are Your Memories of This One?

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Speaker 3: I was six, so it's like all just a mishmash horrible.

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I mean literally, So you remember when we first started

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talking about them, I'm like, did were they somehow related

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to Australia in some way And You're like, I don't

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think so. I think they're just British. So the summer

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after I was in second grade, I can remember that

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they were all over the news when I went to

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Australia with my family. We went on a vacation down there,

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and they were all over the news, and I at

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that age associated them with that country. After doing the study,

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I'm like, oh, it's because they were the biggest hit

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in Australia, Like they were bigger in Australia than the UK,

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than the US anywhere, and they were about to come back.

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They were about to come back in that year, in

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nineteen eighty three, in November, and so basically the Australian

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press was like, we have to get ready because it's

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going to happen again, because crowd went nuts when they

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showed up down there, and so that's my big memory

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of the band. And then of course watching all the

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videos on MTV.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk a little bit about the

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MTV impact when Duran durand came out in nineteen eighty

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one with the Girls on Film and all that stuff,

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MTV was in its infancy. So August of eighty one,

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MTV goes live. Remember the campaign I Want My MTV?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the interesting thing to me, I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Okay, Tulsa,

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Oklahoma was one of the pilot cities for MTV, so

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the interesting thing to me is that the executives

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from MTV needed some tangible evidence to bring to record

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producers and artists and say, hey, listen, where we are

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you are selling records. And one of those places that

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they wentla was Tulsa. They went to a record store.

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was Peaches in Tulsa, and that's one of the places

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that they went and they talked to the guy and

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they're like, what what are you selling right now? He's like,

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we have sold three boxes of Duran Duran today, and

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like literally that is one of the only places in

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America that was moving Duran Duran. And so they were

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jumping for joy that they could go back and then

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say wherever MTV is we're selling your stuff.

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Speaker 3: They even in Tulsa, they could divide it by the street,

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like if one side of the street had MTV and

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the other side of the street didn't have MTV, they

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could set and it was with Duran Durant. The guy

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that had MTV knew who Duran Duran was, and the

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guys on the other side of the street did not

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know who they were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where'd you grow up?

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Speaker 4: I grew up in Oklahoma City. I remember if friends

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had MTV first before we did, and I think that's

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where I first saw Hungry Like the Wolf. That's what

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became popular first, and it was just love at first sight.

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rid of it because we loved it a little too much.

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VCR a couple of years before that. So you had

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to sit and wait for those videos. And if a

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whole hour went by and they didn't play Duran Duran,

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or you saw one that you'd already seen and you're

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waiting for another one, I mean you had I can't

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go to the dinner table right I haven't seen Hungry

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Speaker 3: I think it's funny that the parents almost get rid

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of I can you saying that? Makes me remember my

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dad used to threaten to throw the TV into the pond.

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I'm trying to throw that.

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Speaker 4: We cried and cried and cried, and my dad finally said,

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Speaker 2: So Rio has nine songs, four singles, six videos. They're

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one of the first bands to entirely embrace the MTV

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music video I mean, on top of having great songs

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that really propelled them to the top.

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Speaker 3: Before we jump into it track by track, can we

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talk about the cover a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Please? Okay, So I'm going to say what I know,

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which is that the Lady, which is one of the

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most distinctive album covers ever, right for sure. It's by

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an artist named Patrick Nagel. Yes, and this Lady is

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one of the Nagel women. He was famous for doing

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perfect women inside Playboy magazines with a very you know,

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it's like an art deco style almost on these women.

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and it is perfect.

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Speaker 4: I think it still stands the test of time. When

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my husband I were newly married in nineteen ninety four,

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one with the Eiffel Tower. I just love that Patrick

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Nagel's style. But something about the black and white with

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pops of color. You look at the image of the

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woman and just long, gorgeous hair that could still be

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something that would look cool today.

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Speaker 3: So Nick Rhodes said, I think she has aged rather

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beautifully like the Mona Lisa of the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sure, that is awesome.

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Speaker 3: We talked about in our last episode that they were

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part of the new Romanticism movement, which was this combination

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of like lamrock style and the eighteenth and nineteenth century.

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they had done that for a bit, but they traded

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by the time we get Rio, and it was. It

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was a branding style choice that was a part of

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their whole identity.

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Speaker 2: If you missed our episode on the history of Duran Duran,

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go back last week listen to that before we dive

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nineteen eighty three, only number six, So I wanted to

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go over the five better selling albums. Okay, yeah, okay,

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all right, I love it, love it, okay, So to

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me this is interesting. So actually I want to mention

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number ten because that's Pyromane that week in March of

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nineteen eighty three, and we've covered this one. We actually

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Speaker 3: Guys who were neighbors really yeah, that's right, Birmingham and

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Speaker 2: Far apart cut from the same mold. Really. Number eight

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Can Slow Down right. Number six was Rio. Five was

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The Distance by Bob Seeger. Four was Business as Usual

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by Men at Work. Three was H two Oh by

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Hall of Oates. Two was Frontiers by Journey, which we've

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of course was Thriller by Michael Jackson. We have done

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Speaker 3: Before we jump in track by track, I think it

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is important to note that there are two distinct Rio albums.

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There is the UK version that originally came out, and

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there is the US version, which was remixed and remastered

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at MTV, it wasn't doing well. What they did EMI

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US is Capitol Records. Capitol Records had a guy named

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David Kershenbaum, and he remixed a couple of their songs

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Hungry Like a Wolf in Rio and released it on

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an EP called Carnival. And they were dance mixes, yeah,

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entire album and that's how you get the US version.

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a dance album as opposed to this new romanticism thing,

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and they started climbing the charts.

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Speaker 2: John Taylor's comment on Rio I thought this was great.

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In his twenty twelve memoir, he said, every one of

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us is performing at the absolute peak of our talents.

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There is no show voting. Every part is thoughtful, considered

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part of a greater whole. This is their magnum opus.

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Speaker 4: One thing I think is really cool that Nick Rhoades

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said about the band. I think that all of us

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would say that the Rio album was what set us

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Speaker 2: Okay, so here we go. First song on the album,

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the title track, Reo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you start off with this arpeggio style synth keyboard,

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which defines duran duran and basically defines the sound of

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the eighties. I mean, it's awesome. And then you get

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the quick drum beat, which obviously that's part of the remix,

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but then you get that solid guitar coming in, which

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then smooth when they go into the chorus, smooths into

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a melodious lead. I love every part of the song.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. You were telling me about the sound even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had no idea. Nick Rhoades said that he

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they had this big grand piano and he just took

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metal rods and started dropping them on the strings of

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the piano. And I'm thinking, whose piano is that that

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what he wanted, so they reversed it, and that's kind

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Speaker 2: At the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was released in November eighty two in

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Speaker 2: Before we talked about the video. When they wrote this song,

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idea of Rio as this heenistic exhi cornucopia of earthly delights,

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a party that would never stop, and it was really

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about the city Rio, and Simon's the one who changed

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even the lead singer, there was a guy named Andy Wickett,

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and I think he kind of tried to jump in

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there and say, hey, hey, you know I had some

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influence with Rio, but it was a different title, different lyrics.

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It evolved so much. Even with Duran Duran, it's like, okay,

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you're kind of grasping a Strauss there.

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Speaker 2: That song was called see Me, Repeat Me, and.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't there even another name besides.

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Speaker 2: That Amy A Go Go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, okay, buddy, I you know, you

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knew the guys and you work together. But yeah, I

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love that Simon Labon. After the first tour they used

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some US type from Mountains in the North down to

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the Rio Grande.

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Speaker 2: Metaphor for America. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I love that about it because I so desperately

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wanted to be British and who knew that They thought

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they were kind of cool too, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Okay, buddy, just to get in

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your wicket.

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Speaker 2: So you were telling me what a cherry ice cream

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smile was, Jason.

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Speaker 4: They have a running theme of some type cherry ice

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cream smile. Girls on Film is lipstick cherry all over

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the lens and their new album Future Past, which is

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very good. I have like three or four songs I

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love from it already, but talk about cherry ice and yeah,

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I don't think their choice and fruit is accidental. We'll

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say that it represents maybe a young, vibrant woman.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to throw out there there's a

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saxophone on this one. The saxophone is Andy Hamilton, who

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you will have heard if you've listened to Wham or

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if you've listened to Elton John, which we have.

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Speaker 2: We have, Yes, of course we have. The girl laughing

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in the song is Nick Rhodes's girlfriend who actually laughs

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at the beginning of Hungry Like the Wolf.

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Speaker 4: I saw him talking about this in an interview, and

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I thought, you know what, do he take her in

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and just make her laugh. He didn't tell her he

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was going to do it. He just kind of started

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tickling her and getting her to laugh. He said, she

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had a really great laugh.

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Speaker 2: That's good. We've had a couple of albums now where

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there's some interesting noises that they're generating in the Yes

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this one.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we'll just say yes, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, so we reready talk about the video. I know what, Yeah,

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let's talk about the video, okay. So John Taylor says

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when they were done touring the Rio album in May

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of eighty two, they all took a vacation together. He

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say it was like the movie Help from the Beatles,

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was like they all stayed in the same condos. Every

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morning they'd get up, walk outside, good morning, good morning,

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good morning. So they all had a great time. Andy

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went back to Britain to be with his fiance. MTV

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loved their other videos so much they had sent back

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to the Sri Lanka videos, and Russell mckayhy said, stay

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in Antigua, we're coming down to shoot another video. Don't move,

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we'll be there. We're grabbing Andy and will be there shortly,

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which I think is interesting. When Andy got on the airplane,

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he noticed this very pretty model type. Turns out that

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was the half Lebanese English model who would then be

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Rio in the video, the one that they painted up.

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And he noticed her on the airplane.

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Speaker 3: Had she already gotten the job or did she get

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the job because he noticed her.

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Speaker 2: She already had the job. She already had the job.

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So what do you guys think about the video?

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Speaker 3: Okay, he can't make a bad video. Man, the guy's awesome,

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he really is.

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Speaker 2: This is the same director who did Highlander.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the one who had done razorback in Australia.

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That's right, that's right, and that's how he had gotten

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the job. But I'm guessing had it not been for

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Duran Durand, we would not have the movie Highlander.

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Speaker 2: I think you're probably right. About that. One of the

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Burrow brothers wanted to go yachting, and so he told

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Russell mcahee and so Russell Kay is like, well, fine,

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I'll just make a script where we're yachting.

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Speaker 3: There are no rules to videos, so let's talk about

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the tropical code suits that they got on the yachts.

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Speaker 2: They had bought those suits anticipating shooting the video in Britain, right,

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and so what they just drug them all down to

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Indiga and then there they are on the.

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Speaker 3: Boat, yachting and dancing in the same looking.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. They weren't in their suits.

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Speaker 3: They were cooling off wearing Spiedo's yeah banana hammocks and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you don't. Well, I have a friend that was

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in France and like he was forbidden from wearing what

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we call a swimsuit because they look like shorts at

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a public cool because those are speedos or bathing suits

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and they think you're wearing just regular clothes. So I

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don't know, man, but yeah, they're.

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Speaker 2: Big on finan, they're swim short put on something smaller.

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Speaker 4: This is funny about the Rio video that I did

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not know, but they had different ideas for it where

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the band members get chased off the island and people

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wielding guns and all this stuff, and they actually didn't

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have enough film stock left to shoot it. And even

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for John Taylor playing the saxophone, they borrowed a tourist

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camera for that.

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Speaker 2: How cool is that Nick.

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Speaker 3: Rhodes was getting seasick while they were foaming all of

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these things, right, which is interesting because he meets his

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future wife at a yacht club. But what he said is,

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I don't like boats unless they're tied up and you're

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having cocktails on them. But I get that. The rest

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of the guys who were not sick, including Russell, Okay,

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we're all out there swimming and a boat captain comes

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and yells at him.

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Speaker 2: He's like, get out of the water the sharks And

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actually in the music video you can see John Taylor

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pushes in Roger Taylor like that was totally unscripted. He

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was just standing too close to the edge and what

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do twenty two year olds do? Yeah it see yah yeah,

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And he got in big trouble with like the captain

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was like, you don't understand. You don't screw around on boats.

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People die and drown and all this stuff, and they

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just thought it was funny, you know, Sorry sir, sorry,

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he was standing close to the edge and I was right.

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Speaker 3: There and I was twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That boat is called the Eileen Come On, come on,

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thank you, thank you, And it fell into terrible disrepair

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after the video, and then they spent two and a

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half years restoring it. And now I saw an updated

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picture and she looks beautiful.

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Speaker 4: The funny thing, too, is that they make it look easy.

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It was something for me as a little thirteen year

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old girl that's starting to realize, Okay, this isn't elementary

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school anymore, and some girls are taller and prettier, and

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my haircut looks like a mushroom on my So it

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was this great escape, almost therapy, just to go in

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my little room and my safe house with my family,

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you know, and kind of escape and think about traveling

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and having adventures like that someday.

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Speaker 2: Which one of these guys are you going to marry?

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Speaker 4: John Taylor?

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Speaker 2: You didn't even think about that.

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Speaker 3: Every guy in the band was good looking enough that

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he could have been the favorite.

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Speaker 4: Of the band.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So now we're moving on to the second song

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on the album. This song is called My Own Way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what is really interesting to me. I love what

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we're listening to right now. But it's not the original version.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the original version is much more disco like.

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Speaker 3: This song was released as a single before the album

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was done. It came out after Girls on Film. This

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was not a This was not a single that came

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from Rio. This is a single that came as a

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We got to keep the momentum going, for sure, and

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so it's an entirely dividus strings and disco sound and

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this is much more new waves. It's cool. I like it.

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I like our version very much. But the band didn't.

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They did not like this song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. They don't put this on any of

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their compilation albums. This was released in nineteen eighty one, yep,

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before Rio was even recorded. Which when you're hot, you

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got to strike while they Aaron's hot. I've got a song, guys, Okay,

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throw it out there, make a video and we'll worry

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about putting it on an album after that.

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Speaker 4: Right, And they for not supposedly not liking the song

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that much and not liking to perform it. It's funny

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that the remastered two thousand and nine Rio Like two

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CD album there's like six versions. So if you're ever

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in the car and like, Okay, I'm gonna play Rio,

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it's like, it's hard, it's wrong, it's my own way again.

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And so I really barely remember sometimes the original version

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because I've heard so many remixes of it. It's all right,

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it's a little bouncy, it's it's good. It's probably not

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my favorite, but I don't dislike it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Roger Taylor refers to this song as the quote

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unquote problem child of the album.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd say that.

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Speaker 2: See I like it. I like it too. It's bouncy,

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it's positive, it's sure, it's all be I do prefer

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the American version much better.

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Speaker 4: I kind of love disco. I have to say, you know,

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when John Taylor and Nick Rhodes got together and like, hey,

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let's start a band and get other people in it.

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Two other Drive Forces were sex Pistols in Chic and

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she was very Discovery Video fifty four, So that's that's

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some of their background. And I kind of love little Disco,

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So I don't mind either version.

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Speaker 3: You guys remember the video of this.

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Speaker 4: I had to look it up actually, because back in

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the day you had to wait for videos to come on,

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and I really don't remember this getting much play. So yeah,

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I love that you can look everything up on YouTube

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now that you know who's in it. Right the Matta door.

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Speaker 2: Yes, anybody know that? Blew my mind? Who is the

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answer if you know Adrian Paul?

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Speaker 3: Yes, which is important because the director is Russell mckaye

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and who is Adrian Paul.

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Speaker 2: He plays Duncan McLeod in the TV show Highlander? Right, yes?

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Speaker 3: When did that series come out?

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Speaker 2: Nineties? Behind nineties, So.

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Speaker 3: Like this video was filmed in a studio in eighty

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one ish, yeah, by Russell McKay. Russell McKay. He six

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years later makes Highlander. Yeah, another probably six years after

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that they come out with the series starring the guy

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who was in the video. That was one of Russell

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McKay's very first videos. He shot it on thirty five millimeters.

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This is an on film video, not on a video video.

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Speaker 2: Starting a trend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this could.

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Speaker 4: Have so easily been a video of somebody that's a

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flash in the pan. You never hear from them again.

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Oh yeah, that's in the early eighties. Was in this

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video while show My Kids? But that probably really did

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help him in the future.

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Speaker 2: That absolutely The.

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Speaker 4: Other songs, fortunately in videos, were more successful.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, parts of this video are shown in the

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is There Something I Should Know?

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Speaker 4: Video?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so what judgment on this one? This is

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just kind of I like it.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 3: This is honestly, of the songs on the album, this

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is one I like better. It's not my favorite, but

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I like it better than some of the others.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, maybe not. The third song on the album,

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this is called Lonely in Your Nightmare.

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Speaker 4: Just okay, Lonely in Your Nightmare. This one was not

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well known at all. It's interesting that they chose to

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make two videos because they're very similar and it's kind

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of a lot of the same footage in a different order.

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But I always like this song again, you know, as

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a thirteen year old girl who's like, I'm pretty sure

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I may never kiss a boy with my mushroom haircut

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and all that. But the Lonely in Your Nightmare, the

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whole idea of hey let me in, let me help you.

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00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,079
I'm pretty sure there was a subtext for most of

475
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,920
their songs, kind of like, you know, more than words

476
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,799
by extreme like hey, baby, don't just tell me you

477
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,240
love me, why don't you show me?

478
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: It goes?

479
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: You know, I think in this it might be I

480
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,720
don't know, if he just really wants to be let

481
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,240
into her nightmare to help her because he just cares

482
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,880
so much. There might be an ulterior motive.

483
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: He just wants to feel the heap beneath her winter.

484
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,279
Speaker 4: He just wants to feel the heat beneath her. I

485
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,839
know a lot of Simon Lebon's lyrics, you're like, what

486
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,359
is he saying there? What does that mean? Or or

487
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720
you know what it means? But it's just such an

488
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,319
interesting way of phraising it. But one of the lines

489
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,880
I love is where he says, must be lucky weather

490
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,160
when you find the kind of wind that you need.

491
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,640
It's just kind of like, what an interesting way to

492
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:48,359
fit that into the song.

493
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,039
Speaker 2: You know, Simon was a poet. He really was an actor,

494
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,079
and he was a poet, and so his words just

495
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,759
kind of fit into songs. I do think this video

496
00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:00,839
is interesting. There were obviously dream sequences and has he's

497
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,359
kind of whispering and the girls sleeping. There are cobras. Yes,

498
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,200
the video it gave me like the voodoo, so it's

499
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,559
like live and let die. The James Bond very much.

500
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: Yes, this is one of the ones. Who was if

501
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,160
I was listening to my cassette, not your favorite?

502
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: No, okay, well, let's move on to maybe the tempole

503
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,440
of the album.

504
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Definitely the tempole of the album. I've been waiting just

505
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,480
for this song.

506
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Okay, song number four. This song is called Hungry Like

507
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,400
the Wolf.

508
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: This is the most duranist of all the Duran Duran Durans.

509
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 2: This is one of the great pop songs of the eighties.

510
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,400
I'm spiking my football. It's top five.

511
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,079
Speaker 4: It is.

512
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,319
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's talk by, but it's it's great.

513
00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,680
It is definitely one of the best. The weakness of

514
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,480
the sound Nick Rhodes has created again is synth with

515
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:08,680
the guitar part in this It's just a perfect mixture

516
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:29,160
of synthpop, new wave and rock. Like then you've got

517
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,119
Simon Labon's lyrics that are so sexually suggestive and also

518
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:37,400
so very very fun. Do Do Do Do Do Do Doo?

519
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:39,720
I Do.

520
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: I love that this song like in a day it

521
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,680
was done.

522
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:48,839
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the video.

523
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: The recording, the song, putting the song together? They like

524
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,039
show up at the recording, you know, they drink the

525
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,480
night before. Nick gets there first, he's hungover and he

526
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,359
starts playing around with his synthesizer, like, okay, we're here

527
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,319
to work, let me do this. Simon comes in kind

528
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,559
of hears what he's doing, gets kind of interested in

529
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:13,079
the process. Then you know, you have the rest of

530
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,720
the guys coming in by lunch time, and they just

531
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,720
like knocked it out.

532
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: In the day, I'm just thinking being hungover and going

533
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,519
to work, and then all of a sudden you're like,

534
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:30,240
do do do And all of a sudden, like the

535
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,200
lights shine.

536
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: It's like the greatest song I've ever Okay, I'm out

537
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,279
of this now.

538
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,319
Speaker 4: Let's go, let's do this.

539
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: You know what the song was inspired by. It was

540
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,559
inspired by little Red writing Hood.

541
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:45,599
Speaker 3: Oh, like hungry like the wolf, like the wolf? Sure,

542
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:49,519
because Little Red writing Hood was also sexually suggested absolutely

543
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:51,960
what big eyes you have? Yep.

544
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:53,799
Speaker 2: For the longest time it bugged me that it was

545
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,759
hungry like the wolf rather than hungry like a wolf.

546
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,000
And the whole time, I'm like, this is sudden really

547
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:04,119
talking about I know so many wolves exactly. But when

548
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,119
you said the word red Ridinghood, I'm like, now we

549
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,920
know which wolf we're talking about one. So before we

550
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960
get to the video, this was featured in one of

551
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,000
my all time eighties guilty pleasure movies, Hot Dog the Movie,

552
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,079
which is a fantastic eighties movie, and it's before like

553
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,880
they realized that soundtracks were a big deal, right, so

554
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920
they would just grab pop songs and film in there.

555
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,960
So Hungry Like the Wolf was played in Hot Dog

556
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,319
the Movie.

557
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,519
Speaker 3: It was Hot Dog the Movie. Did they have the

558
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,960
guy from American Wolf? Yes?

559
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,119
Speaker 2: And Shannon David Nonton and Shannon Tweed in her most

560
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Shannon tweetingess.

561
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: So I actually did not see that one. There were

562
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,039
plenty that I would apologize to my mom for watching,

563
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:47,480
but I did not see that one.

564
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: I didn't.

565
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: I love American were Wolf in London, though.

566
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,839
Speaker 2: This one probably wouldn't have the same pool to you

567
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,839
as it did probably me and my buddies.

568
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: Shannon tweet pool yes, my lord.

569
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Yes, So I want to play something for you guys. Okay,

570
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,839
So the night version of Hungry Like the Wolf is

571
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,759
different than the album version only slightly. So towards the

572
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,240
end of the song you have this massive Roger Taylor

573
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,680
drum film and it comes right after the heavy breathing

574
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:21,160
part and the breakdown, and then it rolls right into

575
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,559
several rounds of the chorus and it's pop golf. Okay,

576
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,559
But there is a sound in the background on the

577
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:31,839
album that has just kind of blended into the background

578
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,839
over the time. I know you said, your mom's going

579
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,240
to listen to this, so I want to be really

580
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:39,279
delicate here, but that noise that has always blended into

581
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,519
the background for me is a woman having the big

582
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,559
Oh right, she's.

583
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:52,319
Speaker 3: Making it's her name, little red writing.

584
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: So the massive female organism sounds and everybody know about that.

585
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: The link mouth is alive with juices like what do

586
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,480
you think that is?

587
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,519
Speaker 2: Well, I know what that means, but I didn't know

588
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,279
that we're actually getting she's.

589
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: Giving you an exam.

590
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: Well she was here, you go. All right, Well, let's

591
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,400
talk about the video.

592
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: Then.

593
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: This is one of the Sri Lanka videos. I love

594
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,119
how the entire world is going to know that I

595
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,880
don't recognize the sound of female more guys.

596
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: Can be over a little secret.

597
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:25,839
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, let's talk about the video.

598
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is this is a video from the

599
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,559
Sri Lanka video. Absolutely, and we talked to just a

600
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:34,720
bit but this is really the pinnacle of the Sri

601
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:36,440
Lanka videos, right, I would say so.

602
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:37,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

603
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,519
Speaker 3: So the reason they went to Sri Lanka is because

604
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,119
they had called back Russell okahe who had directed Planet Earth,

605
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920
and said, Hey, we want to do another video and

606
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,559
we want it to be like in the Jungle and

607
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,599
have exotic women. And he's like, I just went to

608
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,559
Sri Lanka, that's where we should go. And so all

609
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,440
of the guys except for Nick Rhodes and Andy Taylor

610
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,839
went down to Sri Lanka and started filming. Well, Nick

611
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,279
and Andy are both still finishing up Rio. They're trying

612
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,319
to get it all finished, so they're working day and

613
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640
night so that they can get down there too. Andy

614
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,440
goes down before Nick does. By the time Nick gets

615
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:14,079
down there, he's been awake for like thirty seven hours straight.

616
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,839
He gets there, he thinks, I'm going to get off

617
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200
the plane. They're gonna take me to the hotel. I'm

618
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,319
going to take a shower and things are gonna be okay.

619
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,519
Because he's still wearing the same like leather clothes and

620
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,480
he's had on for the last three days. He gets off,

621
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:27,519
the guy picks him up at the airport and They

622
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,960
drive for five and a half.

623
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,799
Speaker 6: Hours into the jungle with no ace, with no ac,

624
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,279
bumping along the dirt, nasty, bumpy roads the entire time,

625
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,279
and he was just like, this is why am I

626
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:42,720
doing this?

627
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: Why are we doing And then he comes down and

628
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,079
the guys are playing in the water.

629
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:52,759
Speaker 4: Simon describes Nick as the most urbane of the kind

630
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,640
of the most refined. So Roger and Simon are having

631
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,480
a ball. They're you know, swimming. They don't mind the

632
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,880
hot web. They like kind of the adventure of it.

633
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,359
But yeah, that wasn't really nixed things.

634
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,599
Speaker 2: So I think it's funny that in this video Simon

635
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,079
has like orange hair. Did you see his hair?

636
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: Oh?

637
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he tried to bleach it. He went to

638
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,920
somebody wanted to add some blonde highlights before the video.

639
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,759
She screwed up his hair. So that's why he's wearing

640
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,440
Russell McKay's fedora. Through the whole thing, you get some

641
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,960
glimpses of it. It's very messed up underneath. But I

642
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,759
thought that was funny.

643
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,559
Speaker 4: Or it's wet like the apocalypse now coming out of

644
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:36,200
the water, it's kind of wet down where it doesn't you.

645
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,079
Speaker 3: Can't tell it's so this is yeah, is apocalypse now

646
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,400
but for that scene, But the whole thing is definitely Raiders.

647
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:44,960
It's Raiders, a lot of stark. One of them described

648
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,279
it as Indiana Jones trying to get laid. And when

649
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,720
they were down there, Andy Taylor, you know, they're fooling

650
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:53,640
around the water. He drinks some of the water and

651
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880
it's she gets the stomach virus thrown up through it.

652
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to go to the hospital.

653
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was back.

654
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything that I read doesn't always note this little tidbit.

655
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:07,640
But he was possibly intoxicated and dancing on an elephant

656
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,880
when he fell in the water. Is that right? Did

657
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,599
you guys see that?

658
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: And possibly possibly.

659
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: Maybe there might might have been drugs.

660
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: Might have been I can't really say.

661
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this little nugget that I'm about to share

662
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,719
it kind of goes for the Chauffeur. But MTV was

663
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,239
so new. Russell McKay, he was a frustrated director, wanted

664
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,960
to make these little movies. And when he went to MTV,

665
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,079
he showed him in the video for the Chauffeur, and

666
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,360
they're like, we can't show this. Do something different, do

667
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,079
something exotic. Every video that we have so far, it's

668
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,559
been shot in the same warehouse, doing the same crap.

669
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,679
Go do something different, And so Russell McKay is like, great,

670
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,800
We're going to Sri Lanka and we're gonna shoot jungle

671
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,679
scenes and Raiders is a Lost arc and all kinds

672
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:54,079
of cool stuff. And these videos were awesome for MTV

673
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,000
in the early days, and he had a.

674
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,559
Speaker 4: Great budget to work with, like two hundred thousand dollars,

675
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:03,400
so that was huge for him. It's like, Okay, I

676
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,679
can't make the full length feature films I want to make.

677
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,239
I'm going to make little four minute films and they

678
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,320
are going to be amazing.

679
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: It is on several of the Best Videos of All

680
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,679
Time lists, and it won the Grammy for Best Short

681
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,039
Form Music Video in nineteen eighty four.

682
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,559
Speaker 4: Wow yeah, and that was the first one to ever

683
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,280
win that award. So how cool is that for Russell

684
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:29,880
Molkayhe to kind of have this window open up that

685
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,800
you didn't expect and still get to.

686
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: Do what you love.

687
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: This was ranked by VH one is the number three

688
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:38,119
greatest song of the eighties. And by the way, this

689
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:40,719
reached number three on the Hot one hundred March twenty

690
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,480
sixth nineteen eighty three. The two songs that were better

691
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:46,000
than Hungry Like the Wolf? Number two, do you really

692
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,400
Want to Hurt Me? Another of no, no, no, wrong.

693
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: It was everywhere right then though, right, it was everywhere?

694
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,079
Speaker 2: Okay, new Romantic, I'm not accepting that answer. And then

695
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,800
number one Billy Gi I can't argue with that.

696
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, to find the eighties and three songs

697
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,519
right there.

698
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,079
Speaker 2: That's pretty pretty stout for sure. Once again, the girl

699
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:11,480
at the beginning laughing, that's Cheryl. That's Nick Rhodes's girlfriend. Okay, guys,

700
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:12,800
we've done with Hungry Like the Wolf.

701
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: I hate to be but yes, man, such a good song.

702
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay. Last song on side one is a song called

703
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:27,800
hold Back the Ring. I love this one. I think

704
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,400
this is a great song on this album.

705
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: Talk about a band that defined the sound of the

706
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,880
new wave eighties. I mean, that's it right there. Every

707
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,639
song on this album is well, that's eighties, that's eighties

708
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,639
to its eighties and.

709
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: Noss they have a knack for writing great choruses, I think,

710
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:45,280
just sing along stuff.

711
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,079
Speaker 3: And Nick Rhodes has a knack for doing some incredible

712
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:51,280
stuff with a synth that gives it that very durand

713
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,480
duran sound.

714
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: One thing I loved about this album, This was kind

715
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,000
of like Thriller. I just put it in and listened

716
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,679
to the whole album. Almost all this songs have a

717
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,039
hook in them, and everybody has some better favorites more

718
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,800
than others. But this is one that just even though

719
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,280
it didn't have a lot of widespread popularity, it's just catchy.

720
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:22,119
It makes you happy, it's upbeat. But one thing I

721
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,599
thought was kind of interesting for John Taylor. He has

722
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:29,440
kind of two tracks of the bassline and one that's overdubbed,

723
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,760
so that was kind of a challenge for him to

724
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,800
figure out, Okay, how am I going to do this

725
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,920
live and make it sound and still.

726
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: Have that sound one he was picking right, yeah.

727
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: Well one he has to use a pick, and the

728
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920
one's like, yeah, kind of little pops.

729
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: But I think it's interesting what this song is about

730
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,719
and why it was written. So John was doing drugs

731
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,639
and drinking and living the excessive life of a twenty

732
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,519
two year old pop star, and Simon felt like he

733
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,519
was doing too much and staying out too late and

734
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:58,440
hanging out with the wrong people, and so he wrote

735
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,199
all these lyrics down Slid them under his door to

736
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
kind of express how he was feeling. Has never heard

737
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,559
one word from John about the warnings of the bad life.

738
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,239
So they just made it a song and never talked

739
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,840
about it, and then he went to rehab twelve years later, rehab.

740
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,119
Speaker 4: Later, he went to rehab. If you look at the

741
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,360
lyrics of this song, Simon was doing drugs and alcohol too,

742
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,760
but it's like you're that much worse, Like, Hey, I

743
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,519
really got to talk to John. He's got a problem here.

744
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:29,400
And if somebody is that frequently inu created do you

745
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,039
read this song and think, Man, Simon's right, I've really

746
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:34,599
got a I've got it.

747
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: I've got some issues to address in my life.

748
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 4: I need to take a long, hard look at myself.

749
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,079
John did say later, and oh, I think it was

750
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,360
like two thousand and three, two thousand and four that

751
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,320
he looks back at this song and says that this

752
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,519
is kind of what Duran Duran is all about. Here's

753
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:54,840
the exact quote. Now, when we play it, there's a

754
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,440
feeling of that's what we do. You know, that song

755
00:38:57,519 --> 00:38:59,880
is what Duran Duran is all about. So I wonder

756
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:04,840
that's just musically or the friendship. There's that brotherhood. There's

757
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:09,000
the musical talent they share. But anyway, I love this one.

758
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:10,000
I think it's a great song.

759
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: This is one of those something old is new for me.

760
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,639
I was not familiar with this song before were with

761
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:17,280
this album. This is one that I was like, oh,

762
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,519
this is good. I'm not familiar with this, but this

763
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:21,719
is one of those hidden gems for me.

764
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,519
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Well, hit stop on your tape player, kick

765
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,519
it out, flip it over side two. Starting off side too,

766
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:43,840
we have the song New Religion. This song is really cool, right,

767
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:44,840
very cool song.

768
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,079
Speaker 3: This is different than what we've heard on the album before.

769
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:48,960
This is a way different sound. This is not a

770
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:49,559
damn song.

771
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 4: Talk about the two voices, Well, it's very thought provoking

772
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:57,880
that yeah, you hear the choruses overlapping both Simon and

773
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,599
I'm not a music person. I don't know if you

774
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:11,599
call it polyphonic, but it's kind of this conversation with himself,

775
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:33,639
show why am I having these spots? Why does this

776
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,079
evil follow me? And then kind of the faster chorus

777
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:39,559
of the struggles what's going on in his mind? But

778
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,239
I love it because I think we can all identify

779
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,039
with you know you picture on TV somebody with an

780
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,760
angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other,

781
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,760
and you've got these two voices in your head. And

782
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,280
that's kind of what this song is. It's one of

783
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,719
their most interesting songs, I think, and I love it.

784
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: This song is covered by Jimmy Eat World.

785
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and have you heard it? It's almost unrecognizable.

786
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah.

787
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: I saw that and I thought I'm going to play that.

788
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,199
It's very slow. I don't think they cover all the lyrics,

789
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,760
but yeah, they.

790
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: Sing the middle, right, sing the middle. I'm like, wait a.

791
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,559
Speaker 4: Minute, is this Sameman? Yeah, I had no idea. I

792
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:20,800
wondered how they were going to do it live. When

793
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000
I saw them in nineteen eighty four, I'm like, how.

794
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,519
Speaker 2: Can he do that?

795
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: You know, we can't see both parts get right. Sometimes

796
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,000
when they would perform it, John and Andy Taylor, one

797
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:34,079
or both would cover it. I'm pretty sure when I

798
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,559
saw them in the eighty four tour they had backup

799
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:41,679
singers that would do one of the lines for him.

800
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,920
Chorus lines. Forum.

801
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: You don't have a lot of guys in modern pop

802
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,800
music in the eighties who are doing two different melodies,

803
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,119
singing over the top of themselves with different lyrics that

804
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,159
are difficult to understand. I mean the best you basically

805
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:58,760
have to go to the album in order to see

806
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,000
what he's saying, which may that was his purpose. I mean,

807
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,880
maybe he wanted you to go what I gotta go?

808
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,679
Look at this so definitely unique. It's musically not something

809
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,199
that I'm gonna keep coming in my head or coming

810
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,639
back to, but it is definitely unique.

811
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:15,679
Speaker 2: Alright, moving on, This song is called last Chance on

812
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:36,199
the Stairway just all right. So this is my least

813
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,559
favorite song on the ALM. It's this one just doesn't

814
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:39,360
grab me very much.

815
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: This is another this is like good for You off

816
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,599
Toba for this is like the montage scene in Karate Kid,

817
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:49,639
Like this is the background music for some lover's distress

818
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,880
or something like that. Yeah, it's not. It is not

819
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,800
one of my favorite dudes.

820
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:03,519
Speaker 2: A lot of job.

821
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:07,519
Speaker 4: Lissa, we heard you feeling no no, no, I'm good,

822
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:11,760
I'm good. You know. I wouldn't say it is a favorite,

823
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,480
but I do like it. But as a kid, I'd

824
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:18,000
listen and be like last chance for what for a kiss?

825
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,079
For more than that? But you read the lyrics and

826
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:23,800
it's like, Okay, there's a trouble with this couple, things

827
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,199
aren't all good and my last chance on this stairway.

828
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,559
A lot of times when you're breaking up with someone,

829
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,239
there's kind of this. You break up and they're going

830
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,239
down your apartment stairs, a dorm something like that. You

831
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,480
have that last chance, this plea to kind of plea

832
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:41,800
your case or see if you can work it out

833
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,559
this time. I like that interpretation. I think that's probably

834
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:49,599
it one thing I like about this song. Also, I

835
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:53,360
studied French in college and there's one line where he says,

836
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,760
just like a scene out of Voltaire, which Voltaire French writings,

837
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,159
just true romance is notable. Real love people that really

838
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,559
love you for who you are. But what I like

839
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:09,079
about this is I like people writing lyrics that have

840
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:13,039
read books. Yeah that kind of you know, they can

841
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:16,760
do the bouncy, poppy stuff, but they can write lyrics

842
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,400
that make you stop and think. But it has a

843
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,519
little place in my heart.

844
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,079
Speaker 2: Good God, I got two little tidbits on this song. Okay,

845
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:27,000
So according to the book Please Please Tell Me Now,

846
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,000
which I read in preparation for this podcast, this song

847
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:33,480
was written in California on their first tour of the US,

848
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,280
and there's a famous person name checked in the lyrics

849
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,039
on this song, and it's disguised. Okay, Okay, it's Baby

850
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:46,920
Bule She's like world famous groupie. She's been with Mick Jagger,

851
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:51,239
she's been with Steven Tyler. In fact, she's lived Tyler's mother.

852
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 4: Right.

853
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: Oh oh, yeah, I was gonna say I know that name.

854
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,480
Oh my gosh.

855
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:59,079
Speaker 2: Yes. And she doesn't like the word groupie. She prefers

856
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:03,159
the term muse. John Taylor dated her and wanted to

857
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,840
produce her first hit album and when he went to

858
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,920
the studio executives and they're like, okay, she's beautiful and

859
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,199
she's sing minor detail. Apparently she can't sing. Did it

860
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,800
didn't work out?

861
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Throw back to our Aerosmith episode where we talked

862
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,679
about Baby Buell and Liv Tyler.

863
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: Yes, former playmate centerfold, former guest of many Beds of the.

864
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: Stars, and married to the guy who had a tablet.

865
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,519
Speaker 2: That's it. That's exactly right. Okay. Moving on to another

866
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,280
temple on the album. This song is called Save a Prayer.

867
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,679
This song is so good. I love this song.

868
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,679
Speaker 4: Beautiful blingers in your head just the music.

869
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,159
Speaker 3: And musically, the lyrics are great, the melody is great.

870
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,440
There's nothing problem of the song. Point.

871
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 2: Nick Rhodes does that cool little bender thing with the

872
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,519
synthesizer had a little bender key and so the moon

873
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,599
all that stuff. That's really cool. This has an interesting

874
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,719
chart history to me. So it was released in the

875
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,800
UK and Australia in August of nineteen eighty two, never

876
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,079
released as a single in the United States until January

877
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,000
of nineteen eighty five, even though the video was all

878
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:44,440
over MTV and a hugely popular video. Let's talk about

879
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,440
the video for a second. Okay, another one of the

880
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,239
Sri Lanka videos. They have this really cool scene of

881
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,880
them on top of this like holy site in Sri Lanka.

882
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,079
They had to be air dropped to the top of

883
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:57,360
that and when they got there, Nick said, it was

884
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,840
screaming hot and so hot, like they're feet were burning.

885
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,320
And when they finally got down, the monks who watch

886
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,199
over this sacred site balled them out for being offensive.

887
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: Right, and they had to be barefoot out of respect

888
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,679
for the religious significance. But I don't think the monks

889
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,000
cared that they took their shoes off.

890
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: They were still mad.

891
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I had read that actually, while they're filming

892
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,840
sometimes instead of now being the lyrics, they're kind of

893
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:30,320
fu rustle because they're on fire. But yeah, and it

894
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,960
was kind of a scary time within the country when

895
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,480
they were filming. Also kind of a tense verge of civil.

896
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: War, so to touch on that. Once they finished with

897
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:46,320
these videos and left, Sri Lanka went into civil war. Literally,

898
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,880
these videos are some of the last footage taken of

899
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:55,079
the old Sri Lanka. Really while they were in Sri Lanka,

900
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,280
Britain invaded the Falklands and so they had to be

901
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,320
like picked.

902
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,159
Speaker 3: Up and removed. Should we talk about the elephant the video?

903
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: We should talk about the elean.

904
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: So they were writing on elephants and the elephants started

905
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,159
making this weird noise. That's pretty cool. We should record that.

906
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,760
That'll be funny. We'll play that. But oh wait, where

907
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,840
did they go? And the elephant has left with Roger

908
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,760
on top, and oh my gosh, it turns out the

909
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,920
sound was a mating call, and so the elephant would

910
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,920
to make a booty call.

911
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,679
Speaker 2: Russell McKay he wanted an elephant shower scene on the

912
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,559
back of the elephant, and it was funny because it

913
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:41,360
was supposed to be a homo erotic element because these

914
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,880
guys were such good looking guys and they wanted guys

915
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,159
and girls to be turned on by watching this video.

916
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,079
And so they had to fight over who was going

917
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:49,000
to be sprayed by the.

918
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 4: Elephant, fight because they wanted it.

919
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: No fight, because they didn't want so they thought about it,

920
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,440
and finally they're like, well, John, you're the heart throb

921
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:58,360
of the group. And he's like, you're right, fine, I'll

922
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,719
do it. So that's why John gets spread with the elephant.

923
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,119
At the end, he says, I didn't care. I loved it.

924
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:06,639
It's one of my most treasured memories. Okay, I got

925
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,800
a great story for this. Okay. So after the video

926
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,840
has come out, they're back at home in England. Nick

927
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,199
Roads is at his house and his mom comes to him.

928
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,519
Nick is at his mom's house, he's probably still living there,

929
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,840
and she goes, hey, Nick, you got a phone call.

930
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,599
And he's like, okay, great, Mom.

931
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:22,119
Speaker 3: Who is it?

932
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, some guy named Michael. So he goes over.

933
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,079
He's like, hello, Michael Jackson on the phone, yeah, telling

934
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:31,000
him how much he enjoyed the song Save It Prayer. Nice.

935
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,199
Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Can you imagine?

936
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,119
Speaker 2: Pretty freaking cool?

937
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: It's not as though he's not going to believe it's

938
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,360
Michael Jackson when he hears the boys come on, who

939
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,119
is this really?

940
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,679
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, although that did happen to Steve Lugather and

941
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,679
Eddie Van Halen when Michael Jackson called him okay. Last

942
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,599
song on the album is called the Chauffeur Okay.

943
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: So this song is really unique. Yeah, it's not to

944
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,159
my taste. I feel like at the beginning of the song,

945
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:03,000
I'm about to get killed by Jason Moorhies or something.

946
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:06,960
But there's some really interesting stuff behind this song we

947
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,599
should talk about.

948
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: See. I think this is one of the best songs

949
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:19,800
on the album. I love this song looking for a

950
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:26,920
New Person Dry. It's just it is different. This is

951
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,039
Nick Rhodes really showing his talent. In my opinion, very

952
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,400
scynth heavy. The creation of this song I find interesting.

953
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,360
Nick and Simon were working on different songs at the time,

954
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,719
but they would trade off. So when Nick got a break,

955
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,559
he would work on this, and then when it was

956
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:44,000
his turn to go in the studio, Simon would come in.

957
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,599
Simon said, I was blown away by what he was doing.

958
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:50,440
They built it together piece by piece, brick by brick.

959
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,599
Speaker 4: It was kind of difficult for Nick Roads to sell

960
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:57,920
this one, he said, politically difficult to sell to everyone.

961
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,599
Then they actually later did another cover of it that

962
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:06,320
ended up as a Rio B side, and it's the

963
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,280
only Duran Duran song where Nick doesn't play, So that

964
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,119
was kind of like, Okay, you kind of cut us

965
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:15,880
out of this the first time. So we're going to

966
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,920
come in with more instruments. But can you hear the

967
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,039
little called cokerina? Do you know who's playing? No, Simon

968
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:27,960
Lebaun is playing and google it. It's a little wind instrument.

969
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:32,199
It sounds like you're at a little medieval fair or something.

970
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: Shape like a blow dryer, but it's kind of like

971
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,519
a kazoo or something.

972
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have fancy ceramic tassoo. I like this one.

973
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,679
I think it's weird. I totally agree with d somebody's

974
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,880
about to get murdered in this or something. But it's

975
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,639
so eerie using odd sound effects. There's a lyric that

976
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,199
says that a foods swarm up in the drifting haze,

977
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,559
and at the end, if you listen, sounds like cicados

978
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:03,920
or something. They used to BBC recording They say grasshoppers,

979
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,280
but I don't think it sounds like grass.

980
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's a story behind it. So they were

981
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,360
at the library listening to records of insect noises, and

982
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,320
so there's a narrator on this record. You're hearing the

983
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,280
insect noises, but then the narrators like, this is the

984
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,079
greater spotted cricket lives in the trees, and he says,

985
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:25,000
and then all of a sudden, the guy's like, who's

986
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:29,360
that speaking things? Who's that calling in the long long grass?

987
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,679
And they're like, oh, that's funny. We got to put

988
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:33,920
that in the album. Wow. So that's how they got

989
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:34,679
I love that.

990
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,679
Speaker 2: There is actually another sound effect where I think it's

991
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:41,079
supposed to be like glass breaking. Yeah, it's actually somebody

992
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:42,599
dropping a piece of ice in.

993
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: The water, and.

994
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 4: It sounds like ice in a glass. He says ice

995
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,440
and water, but almost sounds Yeah, the lyric is what

996
00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:57,960
glass splinters lie so deep in their mind and just

997
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:00,639
kind of putting those little touches. So I've remembered this

998
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,400
song before I came back to kind of review, but

999
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,360
I'm like, oh, I don't think I would have remembered

1000
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,880
some of those little touches.

1001
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So we talked last episode about how right before

1002
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,280
he met the guys for Duran Duran, Simon Labon had

1003
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,559
been down in Israel at a kibbutz being a tree surgeon,

1004
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,039
and he wrote the lyrics for this song in seventy

1005
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,280
eight while he was down there in Israel's that's where

1006
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,320
the lyrics for the song came from. Was that experience.

1007
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:31,079
Speaker 2: He had these lyrics in his pocket when he showed

1008
00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:34,440
up to audition for Duran Duran. Yeah, he was wearing

1009
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:36,719
pink leopard pants at the time.

1010
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, they couldn't be could say no.

1011
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: He's like, it's a good story with That's not true.

1012
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,039
Speaker 5: You know.

1013
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 4: I was watching Duran Duran, was on Watch What Happens

1014
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,360
Live with Andy Cohen and he asked all four of

1015
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,519
the guys that are still in Duran Duran, what's your

1016
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:55,239
favorite Duran Durant's song? And Nick chose this one, which

1017
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,920
I wonder why he had such influence on it that

1018
00:53:58,199 --> 00:53:59,880
he didn't even hesitate.

1019
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: That's correct. It was interesting. Okay, let's talk about the video.

1020
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 4: This is the only video that they're not in right, Yes,

1021
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:07,280
the guys were on.

1022
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,679
Speaker 2: Tour, they weren't in it. That's why I thought it

1023
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,039
was a fan made video. Oh yeah, so I'm watching it.

1024
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:15,000
It said official Duran Duran video. I'm watching it. They're

1025
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,159
not in it at all. Yeah, but you know who

1026
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:25,199
is in it? No naked ladies? Well, well, topless models

1027
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,280
in lingerie.

1028
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 4: Do you want to take?

1029
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:35,119
Speaker 3: The video was directed by Ian Eames and was a

1030
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:38,519
black and white piece that was inspired by the film

1031
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:41,679
The Night Quarter and a photographer of theresent me the

1032
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:43,920
photography of Helmet Commute.

1033
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1034
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 4: I was reading in John Taylor's it kind of describes

1035
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,440
he said, you know, with Rio, we've got the song Rio,

1036
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:56,639
that's this pop draw you in. But he's like, you

1037
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,480
finished with the Chauffeur at the end of the album

1038
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:03,360
and it's pretty weird. It's kind of dark. So he's like,

1039
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,679
hopefully we can lead you down this path to get

1040
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,880
you to a point where you'll give the show for

1041
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,159
a chance, because it's definitely unusual and not widespread appealed.

1042
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: Just going back to what we touched on earlier, this

1043
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:18,440
was the video that gave us the Sri Lanka stuff

1044
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:22,280
because they went to MTV they're like, hey, check out

1045
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,239
this video for the Chauffeur. They're like, we cannot show

1046
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,159
this on MTV. Give us something we came out of you.

1047
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: I don't like nipples.

1048
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: The American audience will not allow this in their house,

1049
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,960
like Melissa's mom barely let her watch it.

1050
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, cover your ears, mom for this part. Back around

1051
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,280
the time I was first just really getting into Duran Duran,

1052
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,159
they had a documentary called There was one called Blue Silver,

1053
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,119
one called Sing Blue Silver, and one was slightly shorter

1054
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,760
for MTV, like an hour, and the other one was longer.

1055
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,239
But there's a lyric in this song. This says, sing

1056
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,639
Blue Silver. Simon a book as a child about time travel,

1057
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,000
and it said people who are coming back from a

1058
00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:09,320
trip see blue Silver, and so he uses that lyric.

1059
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:10,920
He would use that title.

1060
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: Okay, cool song into the album hit stop. It's time

1061
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,519
for final judgment. Okay.

1062
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:20,519
Speaker 3: Before we jump into our final judgment, we have our

1063
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:24,119
Shurly showcase with our old friend mister David Wright aka

1064
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,559
Deaf Dave coming in to weigh in on his opinion

1065
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:32,159
between Toto four and Duran Duran Rio.

1066
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,679
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing this? Is David Wright return

1067
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,480
to Deaf Dave to the Shirley Airwaves. I appreciate you

1068
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:39,800
giving me the opportunity to give you a showcase take

1069
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,960
on Toto four versus Rio. This was definitely a trip

1070
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:45,400
outside of my comfort zone and outside of my personal

1071
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,880
experience when I was coming up through the eighties. One

1072
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,000
thing I love about your show is it really challenges

1073
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:51,679
us to not just look at the stuff that we

1074
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,519
liked back in the day, but also dig a little

1075
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,039
deeper and put aside our personal preferences and see if

1076
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,760
we can appreciate movies or albums on their own merits,

1077
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,079
even if it wasn't something we enjoyed at the time.

1078
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,559
And so that's exactly what I have to do with

1079
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:08,760
both of these albums. I mean, I have to keep

1080
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,760
in mind not every act has the good fortune of

1081
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,920
being produced by Rick Rubin, and it just would not

1082
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,039
be fair for me to hold that against them. Now.

1083
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:17,280
Of course, I am familiar with the pair of hits

1084
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,800
off each of these albums. All four of them are

1085
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,639
a classic, all time huge monster hit singles, but I

1086
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:26,079
wasn't familiar with the album. So I dug deep and

1087
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,800
I listened to both Toto four and Rio. One of

1088
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,599
the defining sounds of the decade was that of synth

1089
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:36,440
pop and duran Duran epitomizes that sound, and this album

1090
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,960
in particular epitomizes Duran Duran. So for the ultimate representation

1091
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:44,840
of synth pop of the nineteen eighties, this album really

1092
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,400
holds up as the central piece, the masterpiece. There's so

1093
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,679
much energy to every single one of these tracks. You

1094
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:52,800
can just feel it. It puts you right back in

1095
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,159
the time. These are the kings of the spiked mullets

1096
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:58,119
and the shoulder pad jackets and just multiple layers of

1097
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:00,920
keyboards everywhere you look. And of course and Hungry Like

1098
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440
the Wolf are two of their absolute best. I wasn't

1099
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,039
familiar with any of the other songs before listening recently,

1100
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:08,159
but I found so many of them to be catchy

1101
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,960
and to be memorable. I really liked the counter melodies

1102
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:13,519
on New Religion. I thought that was fantastic, and I

1103
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:15,880
really like the energy of the Chauffeur in particular. I

1104
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,360
thought both of those songs were great. If you want

1105
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,079
a collection of albums, all time classic albums that you're

1106
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:23,199
able to listen to all the way straight through top

1107
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:26,519
to bottom and have it represent a significant part of

1108
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,559
the music scene of the nineteen eighties, Rio has to

1109
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,960
be in that collection. I came away very surprised, pleasantly

1110
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,159
surprised by discovering how much I could really enjoy this album.

1111
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,519
And then there's Toto four. Of course, I am very

1112
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:43,519
familiar with both Rosanna and Africa. Both of these songs

1113
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,320
are excellent, They're catchy, they're memorable, they're all time classics.

1114
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:49,639
Hearing each of these always takes me back to the

1115
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:51,800
day when they were new, And for some reason, the

1116
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,599
song Africa sparked within me this romanticized, imagined version of

1117
00:58:56,639 --> 00:59:01,280
Africa that just really seemed to paint this epics and epic,

1118
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,000
majestic beauty in my mind of that continent, which is

1119
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
something pop culture I don't think has ever really been

1120
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,719
able to recapture about Africa, at least not until the

1121
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:11,360
Black Panther movie. Then I tried to listen to the

1122
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,800
rest of the album. These songs do absolutely nothing for me.

1123
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:19,079
They don't move the needle for me at all. They

1124
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,360
absolutely do not hold my attention. I cannot stay focused.

1125
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,119
My mind's always wondering. Every single one of them just

1126
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,199
disappear into the background. Look, I'll say this about them,

1127
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,199
they are very competent musicians. They are on this record

1128
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,679
doing musician y things. I would not say that they

1129
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:35,719
don't know how to play or anything like that. Of

1130
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,840
course they can. But do they have charisma, do they

1131
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,440
have a persona, do they have an identity, they have

1132
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,960
any kind of star power at all that can just

1133
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:47,440
capture your attention? For me, that's a big noe. So

1134
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,880
one thing I love about your show is how you

1135
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,079
continually find all these little nuggets of trivia that blow

1136
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:55,440
my mind. And one thing I did not know maybe

1137
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,840
I should have, is that the band Toto largely made

1138
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,719
up the session play that were involved in the recording

1139
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:04,639
of Thriller. I didn't know that, And now look, Thriller

1140
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,440
is the best selling album of all time. His now

1141
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:11,119
passed over seventy million copies sold, and that's something that

1142
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:13,760
one hundred minut or more could never do. But these

1143
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,159
guys are session musicians, That's what they are. They're really

1144
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:19,880
good musicians that can probably play a variety of styles,

1145
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,880
but they also lack that star power. I guess even

1146
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,079
fans of Poco needs something to listen to. Maybe they

1147
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,360
should have gotten Quincy Jones to produce for them. Had

1148
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,480
a few hiccups and Moonwalks go on a date with

1149
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:31,559
Brookshields and then maybe they'd be the choice of a

1150
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:34,519
new generation. So, guys, this is an easy call for me.

1151
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:37,320
You got the bland, empty yacht rock of a competent

1152
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,760
studio act and then you've got the epitome of eighty

1153
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,920
cent pop at the top of their game with Duran Durant.

1154
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,360
When choosing between these two bands, Duran Duran is my

1155
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,239
easy choice. Then again, that might just be a reflex answer.

1156
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,119
So to give you my final judgment of these albums

1157
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,480
from nineteen eighty two, it goes like this in the

1158
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,800
top spot, Thriller, then Rio and then Toto four. All right,

1159
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,599
that's gonna do it for me, guys. I'm out of here.

1160
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:04,880
So my name is deaf Dave on Twitter. I want

1161
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,079
all those Toto fans out there to at me let

1162
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:09,000
me know how I got it wrong, but don't send

1163
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,480
the tweet to me. Now, save it till the morning after.

1164
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,960
That's it for me, guys. I gotta go dance on

1165
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,679
the sand and bless the rains down in Africa. Somebody

1166
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:17,880
at me, will Conda forever?

1167
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: Dave coming in hot for Duran Duran right there?

1168
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't even a maybe that was there was

1169
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,440
no offling. We have communicated with him a little bit

1170
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,480
and he has indicated that we moved the needle a

1171
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,000
little bit for him, but it was it was still

1172
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:34,159
a no brainer for him. He's picking Durandra.

1173
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: Slam Dune for Duran Duran. Yeah, okay, So that brings

1174
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,079
us to our own file judgment, right, ladies.

1175
01:01:40,119 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: First, Okay, Well, Jason thought I'd be a shoeing for

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Duran Duran and I am. I'm gonna have to pick

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Duran Duran. But I have to say, after listening and

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knowing more about Toto their history, I can't believe Michael

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McDonald was almost a part of Toto. You moved the

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needle more than a little for me and I like them,

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But yeah, Duran Duran all the way. I'm in Juranne.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a Toto for shirt yet.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. They We're never on my wall

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to But that's okay.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have one of them picked out as your favorite?

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Who had spot the Diamond?

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Speaker 4: Yes? No, The only one I knew by name was

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Bobby Kimball and he was definitely not on my wall.

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Speaker 3: You're not in the heavy set guys who do a

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lot of coconine. I look a little bit like Mario.

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All right, d You're out, Okay. I love this album.

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I love Duran Duran Rio. It is iconic, It defines

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the eighties. It was a huge part of my experience

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growing up. Probably in this time period, I would have

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easily picked durand Ran Rio as my favorite out of

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these two albums, But having grown up, I have changed

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my position on this. Wow, looking at Toto in detail,

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in Toto if you will, Yes, I was really impressed

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with them. And like you say, frequently, if I'm running

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out the door and I'm picking one of these CDs

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to throw in the CD player to listen to on

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the car trip, it's going to be Toto four for me.

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Every single time. I will say this. I was more

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impressed in the musical ability of Duran Duran than I

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thought I was going to be the complicated basslines that

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John Taylor was doing. Yes, it was something that he

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had to do two parts in the studio and then

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figure out it. But even those two parts were complicated.

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The sounds of Nick Rhodes intricate, delicate new wave. I mean,

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it defines the eighties, but to me, I'm an old

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school rock and roll guy, and Toto's influences are more

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like my influences. Their music is still amazing, their faultless musicians,

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and I prefer the sound of real guitars to the

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sound of synthesizers. And so for me, it's going to

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be Toto four all day long. You get a song

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with a billion point one lads, I gotta have some

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people on my side on this one. So for me,

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it's gotta be Tota four.

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Speaker 2: Wow, fantastic. Okay, Before I give my final judgment, I'm

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gonna put you guys on the spot real quick. Favorite

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drand Duran song Go Girls on Film Wow, Okay, the

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Reflex Reflex, Yeah, seven and the Ragged Tiger. Yes, this

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is interesting. So you took one not on Rio. You

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took one not on Rio. Mark me down for ordinary World.

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That's three songs not on Rio. But Rio is clearly

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my favorite Dran Duran album.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say, I would say as a whole like,

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if you talk about the whole catalog, I'm gonna pick

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Duran Duran over Tote Like Toto's got four and it's

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,639
got a couple of other songs, right, Duran Duran has

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some great stuff spanning several decades.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, overall catalog, I would say, yeah, Duran

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01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,079
Duran's to learn.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So here here's where I am on this one. Okay.

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So the peaks of Toto four are so good. You

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got Africa, you got Roseanna, you got I won't hold

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,239
you back. I love to make believe. But for me,

1239
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the war is fought in the trenches on the other songs, right,

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,559
Duran Duran's Rio. You've got Rio, You've got Hunger like

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01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:12,960
the Wolf, You've got saber Prayer, You've got the Chauffeur.

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But for me, it's the other songs in Rio that

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01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,599
make it better than Toto. For song, the song across

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01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:24,440
the board, I'm slamming the football, Rio, Duran, Duran, mark

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me down.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: So Rio wins by a landslide for US four. We

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01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:33,400
got three votes for Rio. I'm all over here by myself,

1249
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:37,480
but I will say this, it's important to now. We

1250
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:40,719
mentioned this last in our last episode. Duran Duran is

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about to get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,599
of Fame. And they are beating like there's a fan

1253
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vote component, right, And it's a hard fought competition and

1254
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,599
they Eminem was ahead of them, and they are now ahead.

1255
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:57,960
And not only are they ahead, but they've like flown ahead.

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They're over one hundred thousand votes ahead of him. And

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so there is a big contingent out there of Duran

1258
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,960
Duran fans who are rocking the vote if you will,

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01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:11,039
but I will say this on Spotify, Duran Duran and

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Monthly listeners has six point five million people Toto thirteen million.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 3: So I'll take your three votes against my one vote

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because I guess some others on my side.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, we want to hear from you, guys.

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01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 5: Do we get it right?

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01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: Where do you come down? Total four versus Duran Duran's

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,079
Rio album, both turning forty years old this year.

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01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:01,679
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Speaker 2: Listen. Thanks for being here today.

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01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,079
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for having me. Next time,

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01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:27,400
I'll do my British accent.

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01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: I was really disappointed we didn't get a little more Francai.

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Speaker 2: All right, hey, before we go away next week, we

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01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:44,559
are diving in. We're starting our four parter moving to

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01:07:44,679 --> 01:07:48,519
movie album to album. We're doing Saturday Night Fever versus

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01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:52,239
Dirty Dancing movie to movie and Saturday Night Fever versus

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01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,440
Dirty Dancing Soundtrack, the soundtrack that.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a mammoth under day.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fantastic, all right, see you guys.

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Speaker 4: I guess