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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rovera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Robera, and

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<v Speaker 2>today with me is my buddy old pal Mike Quinn. Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>and our guy Henry. Henry's working the boards. Thank you, Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>How about them Wildcats? Mike? Are you giving up on

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<v Speaker 2>these guys? You have season long time season ticket for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, long time season ticket holder, first first

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<v Speaker 2>time caller. The uh this last month, I've asked you

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<v Speaker 2>the same question every Monday. Hope Hope has left the building.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was gonna say, I mean every week, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't lose this one. Yeah, they can't lose this one,

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<v Speaker 2>important one. They they It could have looked better, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it said they They looked bad. I mean, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not okay to lose, but it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna lose, okay games, but boy, we look bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you've looked bad. You probably look worse the previous

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<v Speaker 2>three games. Maybe the Texas Tech. But my whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to talk to uh Barrett, yeah, Barrett

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<v Speaker 2>late later later in the second hour about about the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we can how can we can avoid this

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<v Speaker 2>thing that they look to me. I know we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it with Lamon over the weekend. Uh they looked

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<v Speaker 2>almost indifferent. Very they're they're disengaged. It was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they were getting beat thirty one to eight.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't they didn't give a crap. Yeah, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give a crap. At least on Saturday they gave a

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<v Speaker 2>crap for a quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I suddenly they're playing ball. Suddenly they're moving

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<v Speaker 2>around to get fafeeded, coming out of the pocket and

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<v Speaker 2>throwing throwing a touchdown pass. I mean, I've said a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times they need to get out of I wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, wonder if Brennan is a system guy. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to have players that fit my system. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna adjust my system to fill the players. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to get my players in. I gave this questions to

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<v Speaker 2>Lamont or whoever, maybe it was him on Thursday, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was, and again on Saturday, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the same people don't listen. So in the

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of games, what was the critique when they weren't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing things anything exciting. Well, they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>save the plays for later, right, so they won't and

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<v Speaker 2>that was a bunch of crap. That was just a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of crash because you're not gonna save, You're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play. You know, you're gonna want to win and

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<v Speaker 2>win the game. Those same game, those same players are

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<v Speaker 2>being used now, so you know, you talk about system,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just not doing it. They're just not doing anything right.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me also say, uh, third fourth quarter they

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<v Speaker 2>make a rally here. Do you think they were against

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<v Speaker 2>the West Virginia ones twos? I don't, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they weren't killing themselves. I mean the West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia wasn't sitting there going the game counts on this play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're like, you know, at that point, West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia is looking at the watch and saying, what times

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<v Speaker 2>this thing get over so I can get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me say this too, because you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten a caller to saying, well, I'm negative, always negative. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>How can you not be negative in this situation. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anybody who's been positive. Right, well, we've been positive,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will tell you I've been positive. Jay's been positive.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that the other's people who have been positive,

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<v Speaker 2>like going. We think that we see flashes of them

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<v Speaker 2>being able to play. The problem is now, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that what we're seeing is that those good plays, those

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<v Speaker 2>those opportunities are not revealing themselves anymore. We're you know, one, look,

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<v Speaker 2>our defense was good. They were playing good ball. But

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<v Speaker 2>now there's so many injuries that and and we lack

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<v Speaker 2>the depth that we're we just have too many holes

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<v Speaker 2>to fill on defense. So our defense isn't holding up.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to call the guy in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the room, please raise your what are your thoughts? It's

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<v Speaker 2>just tough.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, it was good to see the offense

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<v Speaker 3>in the fourth quarter actually start to move the ball. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, you said, it might have been against

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<v Speaker 3>the West Virginia backups, but this is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>they've actually got back to my touchdown scoring drives in.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time. Right right we left, I was there

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<v Speaker 2>as a fan and to watch the game with the

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<v Speaker 2>buddy of mine. We sat there and I watched and

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<v Speaker 2>we and when they scored, when West Virginia scored that

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<v Speaker 2>first touchdown in the fourth quarter or somebody that the

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<v Speaker 2>third quarter, we said, it's over, let's go. So we went.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the time we got to the car and

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<v Speaker 2>we're headed home, they were within five points. I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we left, but wow, you know, where was

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<v Speaker 2>this team? And then I'm thinking, it's like Dallas lies

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<v Speaker 2>that did you want to get They made that run

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<v Speaker 2>against what? Against who? And what? Forty nine weren't threatened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's the point, yeah, I know, Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost yeah, yeah, yeah, almost. Yeah. We kind of closed

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<v Speaker 2>it to make it look good, but it wasn't good. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>the question you could this is a question. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like when I saw a few of the games. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was on an airplane for most of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, but uh the uh yeah, fortunately fortunately, but

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<v Speaker 2>uh I did see you know, Fafida moving around in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter. And so again it goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>my questions, like, going, is this thing where Brennan is

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<v Speaker 2>holding him in the pocket, We're not allowing him to

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<v Speaker 2>create uh, and is that causing us to sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and have a stagnant offense? And if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>then Brennan is like going, Okay, let's wait until I

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<v Speaker 2>have a quarterback that fits my system. Fafiita is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a quarterback that's going to drop back

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<v Speaker 2>and stand in the pocket and and just be a

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<v Speaker 2>pocket passer. He's got to move around. He's not tall

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<v Speaker 2>enough for one thing to do that. Think I stand there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like a Tom Brady. Yeah. Anyway, so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I I it was exciting to see them in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. It was exciting to see them play with

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<v Speaker 2>a little life and a little energy and a little movement.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to do more than just so I have

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred in a in a poll. Where are you

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<v Speaker 2>on Brennan? Where I am? Bren It's first year, it's

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<v Speaker 2>first Still you're still there your first year, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. Yeah, I mean, I mean it's one. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like we're gonna get rid of this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like going, you don't. You can't bring

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<v Speaker 2>your guy in and then fire him after the first year.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to give him. You got to give him

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<v Speaker 2>time to put his system into place, get his people

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<v Speaker 2>into place. We did that with We did that with Fish,

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<v Speaker 2>we did you know, you do that with any any

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<v Speaker 2>coach that you bring in. Butus, someone's going to buy

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<v Speaker 2>this dude out. You're right, Well that's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's good, that's a good answer. And this s

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<v Speaker 2>mort answer because guess what, Mike, they're going to call

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<v Speaker 2>you and say, hey, yeah, can you can you support

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<v Speaker 2>us in trying to pay for this guy. Remember that

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars. I was wondering if you had ten

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<v Speaker 2>million that we could use to buy this guy out. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's ten million people that want to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>dollar each to get them out, well that's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say this all the time, seriously, not where

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<v Speaker 2>where a lot of people want have gone? Okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>where's the kiddy? And I want you putting in? Yeah? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know your wife loves me right until I start

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<v Speaker 2>spending your money?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, And that's saying about it. I mean, get

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't cost anything to send out a tweet, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like going, you're not you're not into the game,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not committed, You're stell A Skins game. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta you gotta put skin in the game if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna want to if you want to really play. Right, Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thanks for your thoughts, but but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for your wishes and your prayers. But you know, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Athletic Department is not checking the Twitter feed. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just not you know what they're doing. They're checking

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<v Speaker 2>their bank account and they're sitting there going hmm, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not enough to get rid of him, right, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna what's gonna get us more, what's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>us more money? And then you could just be positive

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<v Speaker 2>for for maybe a change, I mean a change in

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<v Speaker 2>attitude and blah blah blah. I still believe. I still

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<v Speaker 2>believe this, and I've done this a long time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a doctor and I'm not operating on anybody, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am what I am. I've covered a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some there's some, if not a lot, of disconnect

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<v Speaker 2>between the players and the coaches. I'll go to my

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<v Speaker 2>death saying this. Yeah, and I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 2>they've given up, but it's the door's over there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I will tell you. I will tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>there's certainly going to be a lot of turnover at

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<v Speaker 2>the at the end of the season, by by players

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<v Speaker 2>decisions or coaches decisions. Well, I certainly think the players decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the players. There's some players that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to walk, which is fine. Look, you want to have

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<v Speaker 2>people who are committed. This is the same thing that

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<v Speaker 2>happened when fish came in, came in the door, and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone went, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people are leaving. Thank goodness they left. Okay. Now, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not committed to the you cannot play football.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot play Division one football and not be totally

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<v Speaker 2>into it. But you've got to be all in and more, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>in order in order to do this. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there are players, as you mentioned, that are not, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that they need to be. If they aren't, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>then go find something else to do. But we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to hold on to somebody that just doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be here. No, of course not. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a door, you know where to go, and and don't

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<v Speaker 2>let it hit you on you. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to be easy to say. And then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>at the clean's house and helps. I mean, you'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to have you, You'd love to have a great quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>sit there and say I am all into this and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to commit it to this and I'm about that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that doesn't happen, you know, especially in this environment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, previously when it you know there was a

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<v Speaker 2>cost to transfer. Okay, well, I guess I got to

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<v Speaker 2>commit to this or I'm not going to be playing football.

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<v Speaker 2>But now when it's like going, okay, I'll just go

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. You know what time is it, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to play somewhere else. You know what. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a factor because if things don't work out here, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the option somewhere? That's the world we live in, righte.

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<v Speaker 2>That's well in life and in football, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get paid somewhere else over there too. I still

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<v Speaker 2>think that paid for plays is gonna be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball Hero Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing fine? Thank you? Good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a dream job in my world. You get

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<v Speaker 2>to be part of this Breeders Cup. How many have

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<v Speaker 4>How many Greats Cups?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Too many times?

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<v Speaker 4>That Yeah, more than I can remember.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we usually well we've had we've had several two

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, How how I know for someone like me

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<v Speaker 4>I go every year, regardless of whether we have any

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<v Speaker 2>How many have you I think you've won a couple

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<v Speaker 2>or two or three more than that. How many have

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you. Lout won two of them back

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Maybe what are your chances this year?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's there's some really good horses in there,

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<v Speaker 2>Right right. I know that you've had some great ones, Mackenzie.

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<v Speaker 2>And well, let's just talk about the things that you

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<v Speaker 4>I can't I can't remember them all. But we've had

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<v Speaker 4>We've had a lot of good luck. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>You Well, I have one for you because I want

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<v Speaker 4>names have already been used, and they hold them for

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<v Speaker 4>a long time before they released the name and let

419
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<v Speaker 4>it be reused. And sometimes they make names permanence, you know,

420
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<v Speaker 4>if the horse was really good and they like Midnight

421
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<v Speaker 4>Loop for example, that name can never be used again.

422
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<v Speaker 2>So every one of them minutes, one of them need to.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a question for you. So how do you

424
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<v Speaker 2>how do you pick a horse? I how do you

425
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<v Speaker 2>sit there and you look it's like going, okay, look

426
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<v Speaker 2>this horse, Oh my goodness.

427
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<v Speaker 4>You know, we I learned a long time ago. I

428
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<v Speaker 4>had a mentor teach me that.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

430
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<v Speaker 4>He told me if he said, son, you're never going

431
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<v Speaker 4>to be any better that people you surround yourself with.

432
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<v Speaker 4>And I've never forgotten that. And I feel like I'm

433
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<v Speaker 4>probably biased, but I feel like I had the best

434
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<v Speaker 4>trainer in the in the industry. And we use a

435
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<v Speaker 4>fellow by the name of Donato Landi who's a bluzstalk agent,

436
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<v Speaker 4>and you know, a lot of people in particular think

437
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<v Speaker 4>he's the best.

438
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<v Speaker 1>And that.

439
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<v Speaker 4>So between those two guys, you know, they they pretty

440
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<v Speaker 4>much pick him out. We just we just kind of

441
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<v Speaker 4>you know, go along for the ride and write the

442
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<v Speaker 4>check and you know, pretty much.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Do what they tell us to do, which and then

444
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<v Speaker 2>and then collected, you know, collected the circle, right and

445
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<v Speaker 2>well before before we move forward. Obviously, your your trainer

446
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:31.359
<v Speaker 2>is Bob Bafford, Arizona Connections, obviously, and and you guys

447
00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:33.839
<v Speaker 2>have been very successful with him. You know, like these

448
00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:35.599
<v Speaker 2>guys we had like a function, I don't know how

449
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<v Speaker 2>to be we're still marriage maybe fifteen years ago at

450
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<v Speaker 2>the casino. And they're called the car guys, right because

451
00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.279
<v Speaker 2>white Man and Watson are the guys that are the

452
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<v Speaker 2>car guys. And Bafford's been fantastic with him, and he

453
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<v Speaker 2>he he wanted to win a lot of races for you,

454
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<v Speaker 2>and he has with Midnight and some of the others.

455
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've been very very lucky. And one I was

456
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<v Speaker 4>looking the other day, we've had you know, Grade one

457
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<v Speaker 4>race is really tough to get. We've had thirty Grade

458
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<v Speaker 4>one winners with fourteen different horses. The Bobby's really really

459
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<v Speaker 4>done good for us, right.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the big horses was it is maybe

461
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<v Speaker 2>looking at lucky, you know, and the way yeah, yeah,

462
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<v Speaker 2>and the way the names come up are just kind

463
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<v Speaker 2>of strange. You know, you're looking at Lucky and oh,

464
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<v Speaker 2>hey that's a name. Yeah it was. It wasn't taken. Yes,

465
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<v Speaker 2>I did a story on you guys for BIS twuson.

466
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<v Speaker 2>It's been so long, maybe nine ten years ago. I

467
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<v Speaker 2>can't remember how you got involved. Was it you and

468
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<v Speaker 2>you and Paul kind of talking about it or did

469
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<v Speaker 2>someone persuade the other guy and involved in the horse horses?

470
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<v Speaker 2>Did have to get involved at the beginning.

471
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<v Speaker 4>You know, in the very beginning I had I don't

472
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<v Speaker 4>remember when I'm going to say, like ninety seven ninety

473
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<v Speaker 4>eight time Farm is when I purchased my first horse,

474
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<v Speaker 4>and I don't remember when it was. But Paul had

475
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<v Speaker 4>a horse that he had with uh with Bob's and

476
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, he had a couple of horses and I

477
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.240
<v Speaker 4>had a few, and neither of us had much luck,

478
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 4>and but you know, I enjoyed it. You know, it

479
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.799
<v Speaker 4>was really wasn't too much of a business back then,

480
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:23.960
<v Speaker 4>more of a hobby or a pleasure or whatever. And

481
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<v Speaker 4>so we didn't we didn't fare very well financially, so

482
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:32.359
<v Speaker 4>we just decided that we would kind of you know,

483
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 4>have fun, you know, with us, so we could we

484
00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 4>could reduce our costs. You know, my losses only be

485
00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 4>half as as bad if I could get called cover happen.

486
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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of how it started.

487
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<v Speaker 2>It just kind of kind of grew on the ohone, right,

488
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<v Speaker 2>and it's been fantastic. I think about that time. That's

489
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.119
<v Speaker 2>when Real Quiet came on board. I don't know, he

490
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't your horse, right, but he came on board with.

491
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<v Speaker 4>Bob that Yeah, Real Quiet was my source or partner

492
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<v Speaker 4>and uh, and that was before we all got together.

493
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<v Speaker 4>You know, Mike had Real Quiet on his own, and

494
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<v Speaker 4>Paul had some horses on his own, eye and sothing.

495
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<v Speaker 4>Bobby kind of put that whole thing together with the

496
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<v Speaker 4>three of us. And actually the first horse that he

497
00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 4>put together, he said, you guys need to get in

498
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<v Speaker 4>on this horse. And it was midnight looke.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was kind of like right after the tournament.

500
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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously first one, first one, and he was

501
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.559
<v Speaker 2>he was the fastest horse for a couple of years

502
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<v Speaker 2>in the world. Yeah he was. Yeah.

503
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<v Speaker 4>Really he's still he's still we still own him. He's

504
00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:40.720
<v Speaker 4>still in he's in lecing thing at Helendale. He's a

505
00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 4>sire down there. He's getting up an age. He's twenty

506
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 4>one years old now, but he's losening good to us.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Could you could you I've heard the story, could you

508
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:54.200
<v Speaker 2>tell us how much how much he gets for for

509
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:54.799
<v Speaker 2>having fun?

510
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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's slowed down now, but at his age.

511
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<v Speaker 4>But we're getting ten thousand dollars this year for every cover,

512
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<v Speaker 4>but a lot of times, you know, I mean, it's ridiculous.

513
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 4>With some horses stand for I mean, it's some of

514
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<v Speaker 4>them are six figures from beyond.

515
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get twenty five bucks at a dinner.

516
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<v Speaker 2>That's what it takes. So when did you guys, especially

517
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<v Speaker 2>for you, for you Carl, that you were kind of wow, Wow,

518
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<v Speaker 2>this is great. This is a great sport, and I

519
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>love did you have to pinch yourself at some moments, say, God,

520
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>look at where we're at.

521
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd like to say we've been extremely lucky, you know,

522
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you want to win all the time, of

523
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 4>course everybody does, but we've really had our share of

524
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.119
<v Speaker 4>good fortune. You know, we're really we're really.

525
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<v Speaker 2>Blessed right right. And this week it's Friday afternoon at

526
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 2>del Mar where the Breeders' Cup is going to happen.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Gaming is do you know? We do we know the

528
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 2>post it we don't. They're going to do all this

529
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<v Speaker 2>after or then Okay, all the.

530
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<v Speaker 4>Three year old rices are going to be run Friday

531
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<v Speaker 4>and then the remaining rices will be run on Saturday.

532
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<v Speaker 4>It's a two day event.

533
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, No, we're looking forward to it. Every Breeders'

534
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Cup is a huge event. So we'll see you down there.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy the time and enjoy San Diego.

536
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<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you much. I appreciate it.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thanks for great talking with you. Thanks Carl Watson. Yeah,

538
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.039
<v Speaker 2>these two dudes that have followed him for a long time,

539
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and they know that I love horse racing. They life,

540
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 2>But that'd be nice. I was going to say this

541
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>because lot Luke brought this up. We're on a bus somewhere.

542
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that game, and and I happen to

543
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<v Speaker 2>be sitting in the area, and it says, no, Steve,

544
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I don't want I don't have

545
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>a horse horse in this thing like them. I don't

546
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 2>want to be I don't want to be paying for

547
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 2>their food, whether well I'm sleeping, they're eating and I'm

548
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>paying for it. Yeah, I see that. It's like it's

549
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 2>a rich man. It's a rich man. Oh yeah, very

550
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>rich man's game. Yeah, it's like going, you can't now,

551
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you that there's a there's a group

552
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>called West Point Thoroughbreds. It is obviously from West Point graduates.

553
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<v Speaker 2>And you can buy part of a horse sure like

554
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 2>sixty two bucks, one hundred and sixty two bucks. Yeah, yeah,

555
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>something like it's a syndicate. Yeah, yeah, syndicate. And so

556
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like, uh, yeah, there you go out there. What

557
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>I think the last was a Kentucky Derby that was

558
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>won by like, yeah, like one hundred and fifty two

559
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>hundred owners, right right, So they all try to get

560
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.599
<v Speaker 2>into the picture. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would. I mean

561
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like that'd be awesome. Yeah no, no, what a

562
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 2>what a great life. And obviously there they have other lives.

563
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 2>That's how they made Oh sure, yeah, yeah they didn't.

564
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 2>They didn't show up and go, oh I hope this

565
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<v Speaker 2>one comes in and here's to eat tonight. Yeah that's me. Yeah,

566
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>come o, baby, then I got two dollars to show favorite.

567
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, can eat a hot dog. Do you

568
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>know the thing about it? It's a crapshoot man. You said,

569
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>how you look at horses and stuff. You could look

570
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>at this pretty horse and whatever, good looking horse. Yeah,

571
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 2>and he turns into you know, well, I mean so

572
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>so obviously my my favorite athlete of the twentieth century Secretariat.

573
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I think they're like greatest, possibly the greatest athlete at

574
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 2>all time. That that horse was something else. You look

575
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 2>at that horse at two year old, You're like, going,

576
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>this thing can't even plow the field. I mean, they

577
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 2>hate it. If you ever watch that movie, it's like going,

578
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 2>this is not going to show up to anything. And

579
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 2>of course then it became you know, the greatest, the

580
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>greatest horse. Well, real quiet was like that. He was

581
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.920
<v Speaker 2>just a puny little horse. That's what I say. It's like,

582
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>how do you go in there and you go you yeah,

583
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>any meaning miney? Well, heck yeah it's right. And you

584
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>got these you know, pick people that are out there picking. Now, look,

585
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I get it. Bafford's seen a million and a half

586
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.799
<v Speaker 2>horses and he can sit there and tell the difference

587
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>between this horse and that horse. And you know, we

588
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even sit there and identify the color difference. No, No,

589
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>you're right, And I don't even know how they do that. Yeah,

590
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. But well that's

591
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>why I asked the question. It's like going there got

592
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 2>to be such a gift to sit there and go hm, Now, Bafford,

593
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>you know he has a couple of horses every year

594
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that do really well. I'm sure he's got a bunch

595
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>of dogs. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, plenty of those, plenty

596
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>of those. But we only read about the good news

597
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>are the ones, and then when they get there sometimes

598
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it's not good news, you know. Oh sure, they don't show,

599
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>they don't fire. I think Beaffort has like maybe four

600
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>or five of this running this weekend. Uh, these guys

601
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>have this one gaming and then it's done, and then

602
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>they're done, right, and then they enjoy and then they

603
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the rest of the weekend. Yeah yeah, yeah, well

604
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Bafford's Bafford said the whole weekend's yeah yeah, no, they're

605
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 2>all yeah, he's a couple in the classes and then

606
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>and then they're at this home course, you know, del

607
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Marris sanity. I want I want to want want to

608
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 2>ask him, but you know, probably it may not have

609
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 2>been Probably I want to if I wanted to know

610
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>if he has any uh input in the program they

611
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 2>got here at you A. Oh they all know, they

612
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>all they're all helping out with it. But no, it's

613
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 2>a it's a it's a it's a popular program. They're trying,

614
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to keep it going, but it's a tough

615
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>it's a. Had I known this was available to me

616
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>in the day, I would definitely would be I'd have

617
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>been all over. I mean, you know I have I

618
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>have an engineering degree. It's like going, man, that would

619
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>have been out the door. Man, I would have been

620
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 2>all over this degree and RIVERA what did you get

621
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<v Speaker 2>in the fifth Yeah? Yeah, right exactly. That's all so

622
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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't want to talk about this, but

623
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<v Speaker 2>and she's gonna go out to the Breeders Cup and

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<v Speaker 2>winner system. Merer a credit card, I'll take it, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you know rivers Rivers got my car, dear,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, he'll cover you. Yeah, he'll buy you a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>Your wife say, what was this incident? Yeah? Where were

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<v Speaker 2>we insid?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five dollars later, he'll give you a sandwich. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to cover my losses exactly. Then we'll go back.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back after the break and talk more about football,

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rama on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to one in the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You or Mike Quinn.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Quinn are yeah yeah today only? Oh no, that's

676
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<v Speaker 2>checked every day. I wake up and I ask my

677
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<v Speaker 2>wife and she tells me yes, and don't worry that

678
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<v Speaker 2>you weren't that out, Yeah you were. You were that outside.

679
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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, and you're still fat. There's that. We

680
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<v Speaker 2>got Henry with us, saving the day for us. Cool? Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody want to call? Please do We're we're here to

682
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<v Speaker 2>answer your calls, answer your answer your questions about how

683
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<v Speaker 2>about how tough this is to watch?

684
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<v Speaker 12>It?

685
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<v Speaker 9>Just is?

686
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Henry, you were there, it was it was hot.

687
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<v Speaker 2>It was I was out there at the tailgate and

688
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 2>it was hot, and it was hot in the arena

689
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<v Speaker 2>or the stadium. And then you're thinking what am I

690
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 2>doing here because it was hot? Uh? And then they

691
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't show up again. You know, they scored seven points

692
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<v Speaker 2>and then they didn't score for a long time. And

693
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<v Speaker 2>your parents are visiting, right, are they saying? What the

694
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<v Speaker 2>hell are we spending money here for? I mean to

695
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<v Speaker 2>give up the two touchdowns on four down. Yeah that

696
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 2>was that was bad. Yeah, yeah, that and then you

697
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<v Speaker 2>throw in the Tyler loop is nice. Missing the extra

698
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>point and field goals. I don't think he missed one then,

699
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<v Speaker 2>but he missed an extra point and he was He

700
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<v Speaker 2>is considered one of the best field goal kickers and

701
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<v Speaker 2>kickers kickers in the country. You know, so just odd

702
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>things you got, and it's part of that. I still

703
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<v Speaker 2>believe that you guys are cursed. Every time you have

704
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of success. The gods say that's enough, that's

705
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<v Speaker 2>enough of that. Regress to the mean that this is

706
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<v Speaker 2>what your average is. In fact, you hey, guys, that

707
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<v Speaker 2>was the aberration year, the ten and whatever. You'll go

708
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<v Speaker 2>back to what you were. One of those things like

709
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<v Speaker 2>going he I never looked for a two and ten

710
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>just balance out. Yeah, maybe you need to sacrifice you.

711
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<v Speaker 2>I asked this to le Month over the weekend on Saturday,

712
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure so a few people heard it. But Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they need to win three more games to become Bowl eligible.

714
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<v Speaker 2>There's a difference between Bowl eligible and Bowl watchable. Yeah,

715
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<v Speaker 2>they go six and six. Are you gonna want this

716
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<v Speaker 2>team to go play in your bowl? Oh, there's a

717
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<v Speaker 2>lot of bulls out there. You know, they'll a lot

718
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>of these bulls will take anybody that they qualifies. There's

719
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<v Speaker 2>one year that they every every team that qualified was

720
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<v Speaker 2>in a Bowl except for one. So yeah, they'll pick

721
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<v Speaker 2>it up. I mean, you know, I don't know how

722
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<v Speaker 2>great Arizona fans will traveled. They don't where, they don't Yeah,

723
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<v Speaker 2>to watch this team, but I don't. Are we still

724
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<v Speaker 2>talking about going to Yes? I mean, you've got three

725
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>games with four left. I mean, if you need motivation,

726
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>there it is. But my thing is they haven't give me.

727
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<v Speaker 2>You talk about moments, and maybe Henry will know this

728
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<v Speaker 2>because he's a smart dude that remembers. I don't how

729
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>many great moments have there been? Yeah, not a lot.

730
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<v Speaker 2>I think that. I think that, you know, our high

731
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<v Speaker 2>water mark everyone said, everyone would like to You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ask people of the high water market earlier,

733
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<v Speaker 2>they would have said Utah without a doubt. Now, of course,

734
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<v Speaker 2>Utah has turned out to be what they are, But

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<v Speaker 2>I would say our high water mark was Texas Tech.

736
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<v Speaker 2>We were you know, Texas Tech is a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>We were right in that game. T Mac doesn't fumble

738
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<v Speaker 2>that ball, we go down, we kick a field goal,

739
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 2>we win that game. If Luke doesn't miss that field goal,

740
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the complexion of the game changes too. Yeah, it does

741
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<v Speaker 2>change game. I mean that's earlier. A lot of things

742
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.079
<v Speaker 2>can happen at that point. I just I think that

743
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<v Speaker 2>that's our high water mark, and I don't think that

744
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<v Speaker 2>we've really done much since then. No, unless you talk

745
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 2>about the fourth quarter where we just you know, come

746
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<v Speaker 2>out some garbage time and here's and here's a rub too.

747
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<v Speaker 2>Being a journalist or whatever you want to call me.

748
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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day, you asked the team, have you

749
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<v Speaker 2>given this? Do you feel like you've given up? I mean,

750
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of the last resort question of the whole. Yeah, sure,

751
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 2>what do you think? Do you That's an acquisational, accusational question,

752
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>right right? Do you love your wife? Yeah? I mean

753
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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? What you are you? How

754
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 2>are you gonna answer that? Yeah? Are you still beating

755
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.119
<v Speaker 2>your wife? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's it's it's

756
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 2>damage you do. Damn you do. But you know, it's

757
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>one of those things where if you ask these guys,

758
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<v Speaker 2>if you look into their eyes and say, have you

759
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<v Speaker 2>given up? Wow, man, that is the worst thing you

760
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>could say. To an athlete. Now the answer, I mean,

761
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<v Speaker 2>you know, their eyes may answer like, well kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me to tell me on the ask me

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the curtain. Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>going right, It's one of those things where it's like

765
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<v Speaker 2>going I think a lot of these guys are peering

766
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<v Speaker 2>into the poor Yeah. Well, the mean I did this

767
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>story in nineteen ninety six. It was on a basketball

768
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>was doing okay. You know JB had been out academically,

769
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<v Speaker 2>they were doing okay. I won't say who I talked

770
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<v Speaker 2>to at the game where they're playing Stanford. They got

771
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<v Speaker 2>beat and he gave me the exclusive that they weren't

772
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<v Speaker 2>getting along. They were not playing everybody was playing for

773
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>themselves because that was there were seniors. They had to

774
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>worry about what was going to happen afterward, right, And

775
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>he was candid with me, very candid with me. I

776
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>wrote the story for the next day and people were

777
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like what what and yeah they were saying and they

778
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>were saying exactly that. They eventually got it straightened out,

779
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, Luke kind of stepped in and say, you know,

780
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<v Speaker 2>this is how you feel. What the hell you doing? Yeah,

781
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 2>we're here, We're here. As a team, not as a

782
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 2>bunch of individuals. And they went to Sweet sixteen they

783
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>had Kansas on the ropes. But if that's the case,

784
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>at some point you got to say enough of this. BS.

785
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>You're here for individual but you're here to play as

786
00:37:56.280 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a team. Yeah, so as a player, you know, I

787
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<v Speaker 2>you know, from my perspective, like I said, it's like

788
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I've never given up. I've worked, I've worked for some

789
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>bad bosses and never never gave half effort. But you know,

790
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>but it sucks going to work. It does stuck going

791
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 2>to work. There's no doubt about it, And especially in

792
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 2>a situation like these people are in now where it's

793
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>like going when you know these players right now, you

794
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>know when heck, when I was playing, it was one

795
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>of those things where it's like going, you're out of school,

796
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<v Speaker 2>Well you better stay at that school because you're not

797
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>going anywhere else. Now it's one of those things where

798
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, okay, I could get a better deal

799
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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. You know, this isn't going anywhere. I'm gonna

800
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>just wait till the end of the season hit. I

801
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.559
<v Speaker 2>still think money has an issue, but yeah, absolutely, you

802
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<v Speaker 2>know they agree with me or not. I don't care,

803
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's I think it's an issue. Yeah, I think

804
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that there are people that want to get theirs. I

805
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>think there are people that want to keep theirs. I

806
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 2>think that that is motivating a lot of people to

807
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.039
<v Speaker 2>do a lot of things. But what was the last

808
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.519
<v Speaker 2>time you heard or seen Justin Flow the name and

809
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 2>play me two week three? Yes, a former four star,

810
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>big time dude. Right, I was watching watching the game.

811
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see him because he was a special team dude,

812
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>crazy on special teams. Right, I haven't seen him at all.

813
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's just very odd. Yeah, it is,

814
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Well again, you got to you gotta have a coach

815
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.360
<v Speaker 2>has got to get his team, his players in place. Uh,

816
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 2>they gonna want to happen with Jed Okay when when

817
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>he was here first years, like Wing, he inherited a team,

818
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 2>had to get his players in place. The I'll give

819
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>him that if he can recruit. Recruiting is a lot

820
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>more difficult now because it's one of those things where

821
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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, hey, how much money am I

822
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 2>going to get? You know, people aren't like, hey how

823
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<v Speaker 2>much am I going to get? Developed?

824
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<v Speaker 9>Uh?

825
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not interested in that. You know, it's like,

826
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<v Speaker 2>can you make me a pro player? No, but we

827
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<v Speaker 2>can give you one hundred thousand dollars right now. Okay,

828
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking that. Oh yeah, yeah, well I better get it,

829
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 2>get it before exactly exactly. And you don't blame them, No, no, no, no,

830
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame nobody. I'll tell you what if I

831
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:05.519
<v Speaker 2>walk out of this show right now and someone offers

832
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 2>me a hunt dozand dollars, I'm not doing another show

833
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 2>with you. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I mean

834
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not it's it is no no where I stand.

835
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. But but but that's that's kind of the

836
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 2>way it is. Now we've set that up. It's the

837
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>worst thing that happened to college sports ever. Ever it is.

838
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 2>But it was one of those things where it's like

839
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and you can't really I guess you can't blame them.

840
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was the decisions that were kind of

841
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 2>meant to be. You know, when you sit there and

842
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 2>you look at you know, O Abandon who started this stuff,

843
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 2>is like on that cat got no money at all,

844
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 2>got nothing, and they they now now there's something in

845
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>now And I do remember Dave in Stohommeyer driving around

846
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>in his uh BMW, I don't remember that. Yeah. So

847
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>it sat there and it's like going, hum hmmm. So

848
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 2>so let me say this. The Jason Terry's and the A. G.

849
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Brahms are you know, going back in to trying to

850
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 2>get Mario Chalmers. I guess has had a big story

851
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>about him going, you know, the n cua A tournament

852
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I want to get mine, Yeah, I I

853
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 2>want to get mine from back back the day, yeah,

854
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>day where you know how much money you having? How

855
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>much can you spend for lunch today? Sometimes you just

856
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have enough? Yeah. No, that's the thing about it.

857
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, everyone wants reparations.

858
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:25.159
<v Speaker 10>You know.

859
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like, I don't know, I don't know

860
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 2>how you get get to that point where you sit

861
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>there and they are going to settle some sort of giant,

862
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.840
<v Speaker 2>multi billion dollar lawsuit with the NCAA. But that's not

863
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>going to solve the problem. What was that word I

864
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>used again? Maybe two years ago when you're obviously what

865
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the hell word? Oh? Yeah, because I'm good, going to

866
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 2>google reparations right one one time? One time? So yeah, yeah,

867
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>one time. Yeah, reparations are reparations. Yeah, you've you've heard

868
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that word. Yes, you use word facetious, which I thought

869
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 2>was pretty good. That's a big word for you. This

870
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it was was a five dollars word. There you go.

871
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 2>It cost me everything I had in my budget. It's

872
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 2>a good thing that I notice you googled it before.

873
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:18.400
<v Speaker 2>You've mentioned exactly nitrogen. Yeah, that's a big it's big word.

874
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>So well, yeah, I don't happen to be a u

875
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 2>A professor. Yeah, I'm an engineering professor. Well, hell, I

876
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.039
<v Speaker 2>have big words. Gilligan had a professor. They couldn't get

877
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 2>him out the dam life. What the hell? What the hell? Oh,

878
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:33.559
<v Speaker 2>so you're going to be going to any games soon

879
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 2>or you give up football games? Yeah? Well yeah, I'm

880
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be going to the well probably, I think

881
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I go to all the rest of the all the

882
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>rest of the games, there's like two or three. Yeah,

883
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll definitely go to I haven't been to the a

884
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>SU game in a long time. The uh, we're always

885
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 2>out of town for that game. And you go to

886
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Ury Navy, Right, I'm not going to the Army Navy. Wow,

887
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the one you're not going to go. It's going to

888
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 2>be the biggest game in the ever. It's down in

889
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 2>FedEx Field in d C.

890
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

891
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like I just can't you know. It's like

892
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I got so many things going on. Like I said,

893
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>they may play two weekends in a row. We'll see.

894
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's maybe got crushed by Notre Dame. That's why

895
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing my Notre Dame stuff today. Oh yeah, you

896
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 2>guys hate each other. But the Army quarterback is pretty

897
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>pretty solid. Army quarterbacks pretty solid. The uh he he's

898
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>he's doing it good. He's running up the numbers. He's

899
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 2>in the Heisman discussion. Yeah, h hey football. College football

900
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 2>now is like the topsy turvy Oregon one, you know,

901
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Georgia two. I think, well, when you think about it,

902
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 2>like Indiana undefeated. You know, he's a cut out of

903
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the Washington world. Is that would be Washington pretty easily?

904
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, handled them, it's like going, it's really something else.

905
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.039
<v Speaker 2>And they beat Nebraska. Yeah, they crashed Nebraska, and then

906
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Nebraska nearly beat Ohio State. I wonder if a high

907
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 2>state was looking past that day any given Saturday, given Saturday,

908
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 2>you know there's Pence. Does Penn State show there for real?

909
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, well, eventually they show that they're

910
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>not for real sometho. So we'll see what happens generally,

911
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 2>any we've got some time, we got about six minutes

912
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 2>or so five two zero four one, six seventy four

913
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>forty calling for your therapy session or or our therapy session.

914
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.159
<v Speaker 2>What would be your suggestory, what would be your suggestion

915
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 2>their suggestion on the air to see how this gets fixed? Besides,

916
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, this doesn't get fixed this year. I mean,

917
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>there's not a magic potion that I see where it's like,

918
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.239
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, we've got a we've got a

919
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 2>winning team. Uh now we have we have a team

920
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 2>that can win. I think, you know, injuries have made

921
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>it to the point where it's like going, okay, we're

922
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 2>not gonna we're not gonna be able to hold people.

923
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Our defenses is pretty beat up. I think that, uh,

924
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, our offense is gonna suddenly, you know, start

925
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 2>scoring a ton of points. It's gonna be tough this year.

926
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be a tough It's gonna be a

927
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 2>tough year. Now. I am hopeful, okay about the uh

928
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>the future though, you know, let's let's see where this goes. Uh,

929
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 2>how so, well, I'm hopeful in the fact that so, look,

930
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>you can give you a lot of very individually talented players, okay,

931
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>and not have an individually talented team. And that's what

932
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 2>you need. I mean, they need something like that. You

933
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 2>need somebody, You need an individually you need an individually

934
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>talented team.

935
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

936
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 2>And I think that, you know, Brennan, given the opportunity

937
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 2>for him to bring in his guys and have an

938
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 2>entire work up, I think that he should be able

939
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>to bring in, you know, make a team. Do we

940
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 2>get a weta? We gotta call Hello, you're on the

941
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>air and I on the ball. Who's this hey, Steve, Mike,

942
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 2>what's the word? What do you got?

943
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.559
<v Speaker 12>Well, first of all, Steve, you can't say a team

944
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 12>is cursed and then turn around when they turned, when

945
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 12>they turn things around.

946
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>You can't.

947
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 12>You cannot say that they don't have momentum.

948
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh. You you can't.

949
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 12>You can't and be cursed if you cannot have momentum.

950
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 12>There's no such thing as a curse.

951
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>There is, Yes, there is. You don't believe that there's curses.

952
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 12>I believe there's curses. I also believe there's momentum. Yeah, okay,

953
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 12>you can use that word. However, I'm not going to

954
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:22.840
<v Speaker 12>use in that context. Well not this year, there's no Yeah,

955
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 12>I think what Mike was just saying, they're they're not

956
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 12>fixing this this year. We we've got too many guys that.

957
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>That we got one.

958
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 12>You got to have starters to be able to win games,

959
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 12>and we're running out of starters by the week.

960
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then.

961
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 12>We're a lot hurt. A little hurt is one or

962
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 12>two guys, you know, and and and and we're a

963
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 12>lot hurt. And for whatever reason, that is bad luck,

964
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 12>bad training, whatever the case may be. But I think that, uh,

965
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 12>you know, I'm not one of these that wants Brent

966
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 12>Brennan fired just yet because he might be our best

967
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 12>shot at having a good long term coach. Now, we

968
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 12>got to get the good part down and then see

969
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 12>about the long term because I'm tired of being I'm

970
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.639
<v Speaker 12>tired of Arizona being a turnstile school for these coaches.

971
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, because we knew that.

972
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 12>You know, Mike Stoops didn't pan out, but I didn't

973
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 12>think he was going to be here for the long haul.

974
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 12>Would have if he if he would have been, And

975
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 12>I think he did it wrong the whole way because

976
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 12>what he did was everybody got elevated. He got elevated

977
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 12>to be a head coach for the first time, his

978
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 12>brother got elevated to be the DC for the first time,

979
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 12>Mike Canalis was a was a OC for the first time,

980
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 12>and you had everybody trying to learn on the job.

981
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 12>I do that.

982
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I think.

983
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 12>I don't think that Brennan needed to bring Dino Babers

984
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 12>in to be the OC to help him learn how

985
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 12>to be a head coach. He's been a head coach

986
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 12>for six seven years or even longer.

987
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what it is.

988
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 12>I know that he was head coach at Santose stayed

989
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 12>for the last six or seven years whatever, So I

990
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 12>do you think he'll get it together?

991
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you blame these coaches for going on? I mean,

992
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>like you know, fish fish in a payday at Washington.

993
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just that and done. It is what it is.

994
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 2>If it pits it up for somebody, if you win,

995
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.960
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna come and get you. It just did the

996
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 2>thing well for some people.

997
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 12>For some people, I think Tucson and the U of

998
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 12>A could be enough because if if you go into

999
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 12>that bigger fish bowl, there's bigger fish in there, that

1000
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:54.760
<v Speaker 12>are ready to eat.

1001
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 2>You in there.

1002
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 12>Of course, of course, you know, you go, you go

1003
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 12>someplace like, well, Kaylin de Borg, he's got two losses already.

1004
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.639
<v Speaker 12>I mean, that's you know, with that team, you know,

1005
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 12>and people are wanting to fire Brannan And we're not

1006
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:15.440
<v Speaker 12>nowhere near Alabama. But here's a guy that has a team,

1007
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 12>had had a team, had a roster that you know,

1008
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 12>you know, who could argue to say that they didn't

1009
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 12>have a legitimate shot to go undefeated. And here they

1010
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 12>are with two losses and they're acting like they're a

1011
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 12>bunch of losers.

1012
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's already they've already said that they've got

1013
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the number one recruiting class, okay, And so it's like

1014
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 2>one of those things where it's like, let's see what

1015
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 2>he does last year? Well they want to they're not

1016
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 2>going to fire him. What was Arizona's recruiting class?

1017
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.000
<v Speaker 12>What was Arizona's recruiting class before Jetfish took them all

1018
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 12>with him?

1019
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 10>Right?

1020
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, so I think that, you know, don't you know,

1021
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in recruiting classes anyway, don because you've

1022
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.119
<v Speaker 2>hurting me enough. But you still got to coach these

1023
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 2>guys if they don't want to pay for you, you do,

1024
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't care how good you are. If you don't

1025
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 2>want to play for him, that that's true.

1026
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 12>If they don't want to play for him because of

1027
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 12>whatever difference is the way he does it different or whatever.

1028
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.800
<v Speaker 12>I've heard it secondhand that Bret Brennan is a lot

1029
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 12>more hands on in practice.

1030
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Than Jetfish ever was. Jetfish was glad.

1031
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:26.079
<v Speaker 12>Handing the eye rollers and he was being a CEO

1032
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 12>on that thing, whereas everybody's been everybody's been accusing of

1033
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 12>Brennan of being a CEO type coach and letting you know,

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<v Speaker 12>just because he's not calling the plays doesn't mean he's

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<v Speaker 12>not involved, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a different approach for different times. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just do you We got about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds. Do you believe or maybe even think a

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<v Speaker 2>little like me that this team is not giving up?

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<v Speaker 12>But it's close, It's it's really close. I think the injuries,

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<v Speaker 12>I think the probably probably the philosophy change is hurt

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<v Speaker 12>it a little bit. The process has hurt a little bit,

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<v Speaker 12>and the injuries have heard it hurt it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 12>So I mean, we we we everything that could go

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<v Speaker 12>wrong has gone wrong right, and and the only thing,

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<v Speaker 12>the only the only way they can go from.

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<v Speaker 2>Here on out is to go up. Yeah, and to

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<v Speaker 2>get a win or two or three or whatever it is. Okay, Don,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 12>If they get a couple of wins, I think they

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<v Speaker 12>could be you know, it's a good step in stone.

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<v Speaker 2>For next year. Yeah, thank you, Don. We got to go. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so called, Thanks buddy. Yeah, we're doing there.

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<v Speaker 10>We go.

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<v Speaker 2>We can go and come to you for breaking news.