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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Robera, and
Speaker 2: today with me is my buddy old pal Mike Quinn. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 2: and our guy Henry. Henry's working the boards. Thank you, Henry.
Speaker 2: How about them Wildcats? Mike? Are you giving up on
Speaker 2: these guys? You have season long time season ticket for
Speaker 2: a long time, long time season ticket holder, first first
Speaker 2: time caller. The uh this last month, I've asked you
Speaker 2: the same question every Monday. Hope Hope has left the building.
Speaker 2: If I was gonna say, I mean every week, I say,
Speaker 2: they can't lose this one. Yeah, they can't lose this one,
Speaker 2: important one. They they It could have looked better, okay,
Speaker 2: it said they They looked bad. I mean, it's okay,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not okay to lose, but it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose, okay games, but boy, we look bad.
Speaker 2: Well you've looked bad. You probably look worse the previous
Speaker 2: three games. Maybe the Texas Tech. But my whole thing.
Speaker 2: And we're going to talk to uh Barrett, yeah, Barrett
Speaker 2: late later later in the second hour about about the situation.
Speaker 2: You know, we can how can we can avoid this
Speaker 2: thing that they look to me. I know we talked
Speaker 2: about it with Lamon over the weekend. Uh they looked
Speaker 2: almost indifferent. Very they're they're disengaged. It was just like,
Speaker 2: you know, they were getting beat thirty one to eight.
Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't give a crap. Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 2: give a crap. At least on Saturday they gave a
Speaker 2: crap for a quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I suddenly they're playing ball. Suddenly they're moving
Speaker 2: around to get fafeeded, coming out of the pocket and
Speaker 2: throwing throwing a touchdown pass. I mean, I've said a
Speaker 2: couple of times they need to get out of I wonder,
Speaker 2: I wonder, wonder if Brennan is a system guy. I've
Speaker 2: got to have players that fit my system. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna adjust my system to fill the players. I got
Speaker 2: to get my players in. I gave this questions to
Speaker 2: Lamont or whoever, maybe it was him on Thursday, I
Speaker 2: think it was, and again on Saturday, because you know,
Speaker 2: some of the same people don't listen. So in the
Speaker 2: first couple of games, what was the critique when they weren't,
Speaker 2: you know, doing things anything exciting. Well, they're trying to
Speaker 2: save the plays for later, right, so they won't and
Speaker 2: that was a bunch of crap. That was just a
Speaker 2: bunch of crash because you're not gonna save, You're just
Speaker 2: gonna play. You know, you're gonna want to win and
Speaker 2: win the game. Those same game, those same players are
Speaker 2: being used now, so you know, you talk about system,
Speaker 2: they're just not doing it. They're just not doing anything right.
Speaker 2: And let me also say, uh, third fourth quarter they
Speaker 2: make a rally here. Do you think they were against
Speaker 2: the West Virginia ones twos? I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know they weren't killing themselves. I mean the West
Speaker 2: Virginia wasn't sitting there going the game counts on this play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they're like, you know, at that point, West
Speaker 2: Virginia is looking at the watch and saying, what times
Speaker 2: this thing get over so I can get out of here.
Speaker 2: And let me say this too, because you know, I've
Speaker 2: gotten a caller to saying, well, I'm negative, always negative. Whatever,
Speaker 2: How can you not be negative in this situation. I
Speaker 2: don't know anybody who's been positive. Right, well, we've been positive,
Speaker 2: and I will tell you I've been positive. Jay's been positive.
Speaker 2: I know that the other's people who have been positive,
Speaker 2: like going. We think that we see flashes of them
Speaker 2: being able to play. The problem is now, I think
Speaker 2: that what we're seeing is that those good plays, those
Speaker 2: those opportunities are not revealing themselves anymore. We're you know, one, look,
Speaker 2: our defense was good. They were playing good ball. But
Speaker 2: now there's so many injuries that and and we lack
Speaker 2: the depth that we're we just have too many holes
Speaker 2: to fill on defense. So our defense isn't holding up.
Speaker 2: I want to call the guy in the back of
Speaker 2: the room, please raise your what are your thoughts? It's
Speaker 2: just tough.
Speaker 3: I will say, it was good to see the offense
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter actually start to move the ball. Now,
Speaker 3: like I said, you said, it might have been against
Speaker 3: the West Virginia backups, but this is the first time
Speaker 3: they've actually got back to my touchdown scoring drives in.
Speaker 2: A long time. Right right we left, I was there
Speaker 2: as a fan and to watch the game with the
Speaker 2: buddy of mine. We sat there and I watched and
Speaker 2: we and when they scored, when West Virginia scored that
Speaker 2: first touchdown in the fourth quarter or somebody that the
Speaker 2: third quarter, we said, it's over, let's go. So we went.
Speaker 2: And by the time we got to the car and
Speaker 2: we're headed home, they were within five points. I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm glad we left, but wow, you know, where was
Speaker 2: this team? And then I'm thinking, it's like Dallas lies
Speaker 2: that did you want to get They made that run
Speaker 2: against what? Against who? And what? Forty nine weren't threatened. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's the point, yeah, I know, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Almost yeah, yeah, yeah, almost. Yeah. We kind of closed
Speaker 2: it to make it look good, but it wasn't good. No, No,
Speaker 2: the question you could this is a question. So it's
Speaker 2: like when I saw a few of the games. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: I was I was on an airplane for most of
Speaker 2: the game, but uh the uh yeah, fortunately fortunately, but
Speaker 2: uh I did see you know, Fafida moving around in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. And so again it goes back to
Speaker 2: my questions, like, going, is this thing where Brennan is
Speaker 2: holding him in the pocket, We're not allowing him to
Speaker 2: create uh, and is that causing us to sit there
Speaker 2: and have a stagnant offense? And if that's the case,
Speaker 2: then Brennan is like going, Okay, let's wait until I
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that fits my system. Fafiita is not
Speaker 2: going to be a quarterback that's going to drop back
Speaker 2: and stand in the pocket and and just be a
Speaker 2: pocket passer. He's got to move around. He's not tall
Speaker 2: enough for one thing to do that. Think I stand there.
Speaker 2: He's like a Tom Brady. Yeah. Anyway, so it's like
Speaker 2: I I it was exciting to see them in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. It was exciting to see them play with
Speaker 2: a little life and a little energy and a little movement.
Speaker 2: We got to do more than just so I have
Speaker 2: one hundred in a in a poll. Where are you
Speaker 2: on Brennan? Where I am? Bren It's first year, it's
Speaker 2: first Still you're still there your first year, no matter
Speaker 2: what happens. Yeah, I mean, I mean it's one. Look,
Speaker 2: it's not like we're gonna get rid of this guy.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like going, you don't. You can't bring
Speaker 2: your guy in and then fire him after the first year.
Speaker 2: You got to give him. You got to give him
Speaker 2: time to put his system into place, get his people
Speaker 2: into place. We did that with We did that with Fish,
Speaker 2: we did you know, you do that with any any
Speaker 2: coach that you bring in. Butus, someone's going to buy
Speaker 2: this dude out. You're right, Well that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: And that's good, that's a good answer. And this s
Speaker 2: mort answer because guess what, Mike, they're going to call
Speaker 2: you and say, hey, yeah, can you can you support
Speaker 2: us in trying to pay for this guy. Remember that
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. I was wondering if you had ten
Speaker 2: million that we could use to buy this guy out. Well,
Speaker 2: if there's ten million people that want to spend a
Speaker 2: dollar each to get them out, well that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: And I say this all the time, seriously, not where
Speaker 2: where a lot of people want have gone? Okay, what
Speaker 2: where's the kiddy? And I want you putting in? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 2: you know your wife loves me right until I start
Speaker 2: spending your money?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: No, No, And that's saying about it. I mean, get
Speaker 2: it doesn't cost anything to send out a tweet, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's like going, you're not you're not into the game,
Speaker 2: you're not committed, You're stell A Skins game. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta put skin in the game if
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to if you want to really play. Right, Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: you know, thanks for your thoughts, but but you know,
Speaker 2: thanks for your wishes and your prayers. But you know, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Athletic Department is not checking the Twitter feed. You know,
Speaker 2: they're just not you know what they're doing. They're checking
Speaker 2: their bank account and they're sitting there going hmm, okay,
Speaker 2: not enough to get rid of him, right, you know
Speaker 2: what's gonna what's gonna get us more, what's gonna get
Speaker 2: us more money? And then you could just be positive
Speaker 2: for for maybe a change, I mean a change in
Speaker 2: attitude and blah blah blah. I still believe. I still
Speaker 2: believe this, and I've done this a long time. I'm
Speaker 2: not a doctor and I'm not operating on anybody, but
Speaker 2: I am what I am. I've covered a lot of games.
Speaker 2: There's some there's some, if not a lot, of disconnect
Speaker 2: between the players and the coaches. I'll go to my
Speaker 2: death saying this. Yeah, and I'm not going to say
Speaker 2: they've given up, but it's the door's over there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I will tell you. I will tell you this,
Speaker 2: there's certainly going to be a lot of turnover at
Speaker 2: the at the end of the season, by by players
Speaker 2: decisions or coaches decisions. Well, I certainly think the players decisions.
Speaker 2: I think the players. There's some players that are going
Speaker 2: to walk, which is fine. Look, you want to have
Speaker 2: people who are committed. This is the same thing that
Speaker 2: happened when fish came in, came in the door, and
Speaker 2: everyone went, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: So many people are leaving. Thank goodness they left. Okay. Now, look,
Speaker 2: if you're not committed to the you cannot play football.
Speaker 2: You cannot play Division one football and not be totally
Speaker 2: into it. But you've got to be all in and more, okay,
Speaker 2: in order in order to do this. I think that
Speaker 2: there are players, as you mentioned, that are not, and
Speaker 2: so I think that they need to be. If they aren't, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: then go find something else to do. But we're not
Speaker 2: going to hold on to somebody that just doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be here. No, of course not. You know, there's
Speaker 2: a door, you know where to go, and and don't
Speaker 2: let it hit you on you. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's got to be easy to say. And then maybe
Speaker 2: at the clean's house and helps. I mean, you'd love
Speaker 2: to have you, You'd love to have a great quarterback
Speaker 2: sit there and say I am all into this and
Speaker 2: I'm going to commit it to this and I'm about that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Sometimes that doesn't happen, you know, especially in this environment.
Speaker 2: You know, previously when it you know there was a
Speaker 2: cost to transfer. Okay, well, I guess I got to
Speaker 2: commit to this or I'm not going to be playing football.
Speaker 2: But now when it's like going, okay, I'll just go
Speaker 2: somewhere else. You know what time is it, I'm going
Speaker 2: to play somewhere else. You know what. I think that's
Speaker 2: a factor because if things don't work out here, what's
Speaker 2: the option somewhere? That's the world we live in, righte.
Speaker 2: That's well in life and in football, and then maybe
Speaker 2: I'll get paid somewhere else over there too. I still
Speaker 2: think that paid for plays is gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: You know. You and I don't know who's getting paid
Speaker 2: who's not outside of the obvious two and Hrominson was
Speaker 2: getting paid. But they got paid. Yeah, they got paid.
Speaker 2: They and maybe they show up, maybe they don't, but
Speaker 2: they got paid. Yeah, I'm not sure how much you're
Speaker 2: gonna get paid next. I mean, it's not like somebody's
Speaker 2: gonna be looking at this film going, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we need a lot more. Your stock has got up
Speaker 2: with will get paid because he's good. Maybe they'll be
Speaker 2: an opening at UNLV. Yeah where the quarterback didn't get
Speaker 2: where didn't get paid? Right right, we gotta go. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have a special guest here, Karl Watson. We all
Speaker 2: know him from watching Chevrolet, but he's a mister Paul
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Speaker 2: so we're gonna talk to him about that. I'll be
Speaker 2: there to watch it and we'll have him in the
Speaker 2: first hour and Barrett Baker in the second hour talking
Speaker 2: more football. So we'll come to side.
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Mike Quinn and now
Speaker 2: we have Carl Watson. How are you doing, Carl?
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: How you doing fine? Thank you? Good to hear from you.
Speaker 2: You have a dream job in my world. You get
Speaker 2: to be part of this Breeders Cup. How many have
Speaker 2: you gone to?
Speaker 4: How many Greats Cups?
Speaker 2: Yes? Too many times?
Speaker 4: That Yeah, more than I can remember.
Speaker 2: I I was going to say, it's like I had
Speaker 2: remembered every single one of those. That's God, what an opportunity,
Speaker 2: right right right? And you and you never have another one,
Speaker 2: and you have a rookie this time running in the
Speaker 2: two year old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we usually well we've had we've had several two
Speaker 4: year olds, but we have another one this year, so
Speaker 4: we're lucky. We've got our fingers.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, How how I know for someone like me
Speaker 2: who's going to go for the first time, and other
Speaker 2: people who go for the first time are just still,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of fresh for this. Do you still
Speaker 2: get excited for these big things, especially when you have
Speaker 2: a horse?
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I go every year, regardless of whether we have any
Speaker 4: horses running or not. I went to the very first
Speaker 4: one back in the eighties at Hollywood Park, and uh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's exciting. It's even more exciting if you've got skin
Speaker 4: in the game, so to speak. But yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's it's a great Uh, it's a great event.
Speaker 2: You're for the guy that says, I do have a
Speaker 2: horse in the race. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so good. I do have a horse in this yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How many have you I think you've won a couple
Speaker 2: or two or three more than that. How many have
Speaker 2: you guys won? We've won?
Speaker 4: I can't tell you. Lout won two of them back
Speaker 4: to back and secret circle want a couple. We've won
Speaker 4: four or five. I don't want to exaggerate four for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe what are your chances this year?
Speaker 4: It's a really really tough race. Yeah, I mean there
Speaker 4: are probably I'm not exaggerating. You can't hardly cross anybody out.
Speaker 4: You know, there's there's some really good horses in there,
Speaker 4: very evenly. You know, it's it's going to be tough.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying we can't win, but we don't.
Speaker 4: We don't have to beat just one or two others.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a whole bunch of men there that
Speaker 4: are pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And because he's a two year old, now, uh,
Speaker 2: this kind of sets you up, or at least kind
Speaker 2: of gives you a foresight to the Derby next year.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's that's the hope. You know, they're two
Speaker 4: year olds and they can only run in the Derby
Speaker 4: as three and you know, uh, you know, if you
Speaker 4: do well as a two year old, you hope to
Speaker 4: continue to progress and improve and maybe have a shot
Speaker 4: when you're a three year old to run in the
Speaker 4: Triple Crime races.
Speaker 2: Right right. I know that you've had some great ones, Mackenzie.
Speaker 2: And well, let's just talk about the things that you
Speaker 2: have done with these horses. Uh. And I think it's
Speaker 2: you guys, because obviously the names are you had Midnight
Speaker 2: Louke you mentioned earlier Carea, you had the Stoops, you
Speaker 2: had a hot Sean, Hot Sean? Right? What Sean? Uh
Speaker 2: Am I missing.
Speaker 4: Any Doctor Dempsey?
Speaker 2: Doctor Dempsey.
Speaker 4: I can't I can't remember them all. But we've had
Speaker 4: several We've we've used a lot of names, uh Conte,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a lot of you folks. But we've been lucky.
Speaker 4: We've had a lot of good luck. You know, you
Speaker 4: run out of names.
Speaker 2: You Well, I have one for you because I want
Speaker 2: to tell you and Paul, I've been wanting to said
Speaker 2: maybe typo typo, Yes, like you know my stories, there's
Speaker 2: usually a typo. Something's always missing.
Speaker 4: You know, you'd be surprised. You have to send the
Speaker 4: name into the jockey punt again an approval. Once you
Speaker 4: decide what you be surprised, be amazed at how many
Speaker 4: names have already been used, and they hold them for
Speaker 4: a long time before they released the name and let
Speaker 4: it be reused. And sometimes they make names permanence, you know,
Speaker 4: if the horse was really good and they like Midnight
Speaker 4: Loop for example, that name can never be used again.
Speaker 2: So every one of them minutes, one of them need to.
Speaker 2: I get a question for you. So how do you
Speaker 2: how do you pick a horse? I how do you
Speaker 2: sit there and you look it's like going, okay, look
Speaker 2: this horse, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: You know, we I learned a long time ago. I
Speaker 4: had a mentor teach me that.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 4: He told me if he said, son, you're never going
Speaker 4: to be any better that people you surround yourself with.
Speaker 4: And I've never forgotten that. And I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: probably biased, but I feel like I had the best
Speaker 4: trainer in the in the industry. And we use a
Speaker 4: fellow by the name of Donato Landi who's a bluzstalk agent,
Speaker 4: and you know, a lot of people in particular think
Speaker 4: he's the best.
Speaker 1: And that.
Speaker 4: So between those two guys, you know, they they pretty
Speaker 4: much pick him out. We just we just kind of
Speaker 4: you know, go along for the ride and write the
Speaker 4: check and you know, pretty much.
Speaker 2: Do what they tell us to do, which and then
Speaker 2: and then collected, you know, collected the circle, right and
Speaker 2: well before before we move forward. Obviously, your your trainer
Speaker 2: is Bob Bafford, Arizona Connections, obviously, and and you guys
Speaker 2: have been very successful with him. You know, like these
Speaker 2: guys we had like a function, I don't know how
Speaker 2: to be we're still marriage maybe fifteen years ago at
Speaker 2: the casino. And they're called the car guys, right because
Speaker 2: white Man and Watson are the guys that are the
Speaker 2: car guys. And Bafford's been fantastic with him, and he
Speaker 2: he he wanted to win a lot of races for you,
Speaker 2: and he has with Midnight and some of the others.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been very very lucky. And one I was
Speaker 4: looking the other day, we've had you know, Grade one
Speaker 4: race is really tough to get. We've had thirty Grade
Speaker 4: one winners with fourteen different horses. The Bobby's really really
Speaker 4: done good for us, right.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the big horses was it is maybe
Speaker 2: looking at lucky, you know, and the way yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and the way the names come up are just kind
Speaker 2: of strange. You know, you're looking at Lucky and oh,
Speaker 2: hey that's a name. Yeah it was. It wasn't taken. Yes,
Speaker 2: I did a story on you guys for BIS twuson.
Speaker 2: It's been so long, maybe nine ten years ago. I
Speaker 2: can't remember how you got involved. Was it you and
Speaker 2: you and Paul kind of talking about it or did
Speaker 2: someone persuade the other guy and involved in the horse horses?
Speaker 2: Did have to get involved at the beginning.
Speaker 4: You know, in the very beginning I had I don't
Speaker 4: remember when I'm going to say, like ninety seven ninety
Speaker 4: eight time Farm is when I purchased my first horse,
Speaker 4: and I don't remember when it was. But Paul had
Speaker 4: a horse that he had with uh with Bob's and
Speaker 4: you know, he had a couple of horses and I
Speaker 4: had a few, and neither of us had much luck,
Speaker 4: and but you know, I enjoyed it. You know, it
Speaker 4: was really wasn't too much of a business back then,
Speaker 4: more of a hobby or a pleasure or whatever. And
Speaker 4: so we didn't we didn't fare very well financially, so
Speaker 4: we just decided that we would kind of you know,
Speaker 4: have fun, you know, with us, so we could we
Speaker 4: could reduce our costs. You know, my losses only be
Speaker 4: half as as bad if I could get called cover happen.
Speaker 4: That's kind of how it started.
Speaker 2: It just kind of kind of grew on the ohone, right,
Speaker 2: and it's been fantastic. I think about that time. That's
Speaker 2: when Real Quiet came on board. I don't know, he
Speaker 2: wasn't your horse, right, but he came on board with.
Speaker 4: Bob that Yeah, Real Quiet was my source or partner
Speaker 4: and uh, and that was before we all got together.
Speaker 4: You know, Mike had Real Quiet on his own, and
Speaker 4: Paul had some horses on his own, eye and sothing.
Speaker 4: Bobby kind of put that whole thing together with the
Speaker 4: three of us. And actually the first horse that he
Speaker 4: put together, he said, you guys need to get in
Speaker 4: on this horse. And it was midnight looke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of like right after the tournament.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously first one, first one, and he was
Speaker 2: he was the fastest horse for a couple of years
Speaker 2: in the world. Yeah he was. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really he's still he's still we still own him. He's
Speaker 4: still in he's in lecing thing at Helendale. He's a
Speaker 4: sire down there. He's getting up an age. He's twenty
Speaker 4: one years old now, but he's losening good to us.
Speaker 2: Could you could you I've heard the story, could you
Speaker 2: tell us how much how much he gets for for
Speaker 2: having fun?
Speaker 4: You know, he's slowed down now, but at his age.
Speaker 4: But we're getting ten thousand dollars this year for every cover,
Speaker 4: but a lot of times, you know, I mean, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: With some horses stand for I mean, it's some of
Speaker 4: them are six figures from beyond.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get twenty five bucks at a dinner.
Speaker 2: That's what it takes. So when did you guys, especially
Speaker 2: for you, for you Carl, that you were kind of wow, Wow,
Speaker 2: this is great. This is a great sport, and I
Speaker 2: love did you have to pinch yourself at some moments, say, God,
Speaker 2: look at where we're at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to say we've been extremely lucky, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, you want to win all the time, of
Speaker 4: course everybody does, but we've really had our share of
Speaker 4: good fortune. You know, we're really we're really.
Speaker 2: Blessed right right. And this week it's Friday afternoon at
Speaker 2: del Mar where the Breeders' Cup is going to happen.
Speaker 2: Gaming is do you know? We do we know the
Speaker 2: post it we don't. They're going to do all this
Speaker 2: after or then Okay, all the.
Speaker 4: Three year old rices are going to be run Friday
Speaker 4: and then the remaining rices will be run on Saturday.
Speaker 4: It's a two day event.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, No, we're looking forward to it. Every Breeders'
Speaker 2: Cup is a huge event. So we'll see you down there.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the time and enjoy San Diego.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for great talking with you. Thanks Carl Watson. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these two dudes that have followed him for a long time,
Speaker 2: and they know that I love horse racing. They life,
Speaker 2: But that'd be nice. I was going to say this
Speaker 2: because lot Luke brought this up. We're on a bus somewhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know that game, and and I happen to
Speaker 2: be sitting in the area, and it says, no, Steve,
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want I don't have
Speaker 2: a horse horse in this thing like them. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be I don't want to be paying for
Speaker 2: their food, whether well I'm sleeping, they're eating and I'm
Speaker 2: paying for it. Yeah, I see that. It's like it's
Speaker 2: a rich man. It's a rich man. Oh yeah, very
Speaker 2: rich man's game. Yeah, it's like going, you can't now,
Speaker 2: I will tell you that there's a there's a group
Speaker 2: called West Point Thoroughbreds. It is obviously from West Point graduates.
Speaker 2: And you can buy part of a horse sure like
Speaker 2: sixty two bucks, one hundred and sixty two bucks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: something like it's a syndicate. Yeah, yeah, syndicate. And so
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, yeah, there you go out there. What
Speaker 2: I think the last was a Kentucky Derby that was
Speaker 2: won by like, yeah, like one hundred and fifty two
Speaker 2: hundred owners, right right, So they all try to get
Speaker 2: into the picture. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would. I mean
Speaker 2: it's like that'd be awesome. Yeah no, no, what a
Speaker 2: what a great life. And obviously there they have other lives.
Speaker 2: That's how they made Oh sure, yeah, yeah they didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't show up and go, oh I hope this
Speaker 2: one comes in and here's to eat tonight. Yeah that's me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: come o, baby, then I got two dollars to show favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, can eat a hot dog. Do you
Speaker 2: know the thing about it? It's a crapshoot man. You said,
Speaker 2: how you look at horses and stuff. You could look
Speaker 2: at this pretty horse and whatever, good looking horse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he turns into you know, well, I mean so
Speaker 2: so obviously my my favorite athlete of the twentieth century Secretariat.
Speaker 2: I think they're like greatest, possibly the greatest athlete at
Speaker 2: all time. That that horse was something else. You look
Speaker 2: at that horse at two year old, You're like, going,
Speaker 2: this thing can't even plow the field. I mean, they
Speaker 2: hate it. If you ever watch that movie, it's like going,
Speaker 2: this is not going to show up to anything. And
Speaker 2: of course then it became you know, the greatest, the
Speaker 2: greatest horse. Well, real quiet was like that. He was
Speaker 2: just a puny little horse. That's what I say. It's like,
Speaker 2: how do you go in there and you go you yeah,
Speaker 2: any meaning miney? Well, heck yeah it's right. And you
Speaker 2: got these you know, pick people that are out there picking. Now, look,
Speaker 2: I get it. Bafford's seen a million and a half
Speaker 2: horses and he can sit there and tell the difference
Speaker 2: between this horse and that horse. And you know, we
Speaker 2: couldn't even sit there and identify the color difference. No, No,
Speaker 2: you're right, And I don't even know how they do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. But well that's
Speaker 2: why I asked the question. It's like going there got
Speaker 2: to be such a gift to sit there and go hm, Now, Bafford,
Speaker 2: you know he has a couple of horses every year
Speaker 2: that do really well. I'm sure he's got a bunch
Speaker 2: of dogs. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, plenty of those, plenty
Speaker 2: of those. But we only read about the good news
Speaker 2: are the ones, and then when they get there sometimes
Speaker 2: it's not good news, you know. Oh sure, they don't show,
Speaker 2: they don't fire. I think Beaffort has like maybe four
Speaker 2: or five of this running this weekend. Uh, these guys
Speaker 2: have this one gaming and then it's done, and then
Speaker 2: they're done, right, and then they enjoy and then they
Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of the weekend. Yeah yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 2: Bafford's Bafford said the whole weekend's yeah yeah, no, they're
Speaker 2: all yeah, he's a couple in the classes and then
Speaker 2: and then they're at this home course, you know, del
Speaker 2: Marris sanity. I want I want to want want to
Speaker 2: ask him, but you know, probably it may not have
Speaker 2: been Probably I want to if I wanted to know
Speaker 2: if he has any uh input in the program they
Speaker 2: got here at you A. Oh they all know, they
Speaker 2: all they're all helping out with it. But no, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a it's a it's a popular program. They're trying,
Speaker 2: they're trying to keep it going, but it's a tough
Speaker 2: it's a. Had I known this was available to me
Speaker 2: in the day, I would definitely would be I'd have
Speaker 2: been all over. I mean, you know I have I
Speaker 2: have an engineering degree. It's like going, man, that would
Speaker 2: have been out the door. Man, I would have been
Speaker 2: all over this degree and RIVERA what did you get
Speaker 2: in the fifth Yeah? Yeah, right exactly. That's all so
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to talk about this, but
Speaker 2: my daughter is actually going to in that program. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she's gonna go out to the Breeders Cup and
Speaker 2: gonna uh work the owners between the paddock and the
Speaker 2: winner system. Merer a credit card, I'll take it, exactly.
Speaker 2: I'll let you know rivers Rivers got my car, dear,
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, he'll cover you. Yeah, he'll buy you a sandwich.
Speaker 2: Your wife say, what was this incident? Yeah? Where were
Speaker 2: we insid?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball with Steve Rama on
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to one in the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You or Mike Quinn.
Speaker 2: Mike Quinn are yeah yeah today only? Oh no, that's
Speaker 2: checked every day. I wake up and I ask my
Speaker 2: wife and she tells me yes, and don't worry that
Speaker 2: you weren't that out, Yeah you were. You were that outside.
Speaker 2: So it's like, and you're still fat. There's that. We
Speaker 2: got Henry with us, saving the day for us. Cool? Cool?
Speaker 2: Anybody want to call? Please do We're we're here to
Speaker 2: answer your calls, answer your answer your questions about how
Speaker 2: about how tough this is to watch?
Speaker 12: It?
Speaker 9: Just is?
Speaker 2: I mean, Henry, you were there, it was it was hot.
Speaker 2: It was I was out there at the tailgate and
Speaker 2: it was hot, and it was hot in the arena
Speaker 2: or the stadium. And then you're thinking what am I
Speaker 2: doing here because it was hot? Uh? And then they
Speaker 2: didn't show up again. You know, they scored seven points
Speaker 2: and then they didn't score for a long time. And
Speaker 2: your parents are visiting, right, are they saying? What the
Speaker 2: hell are we spending money here for? I mean to
Speaker 2: give up the two touchdowns on four down. Yeah that
Speaker 2: was that was bad. Yeah, yeah, that and then you
Speaker 2: throw in the Tyler loop is nice. Missing the extra
Speaker 2: point and field goals. I don't think he missed one then,
Speaker 2: but he missed an extra point and he was He
Speaker 2: is considered one of the best field goal kickers and
Speaker 2: kickers kickers in the country. You know, so just odd
Speaker 2: things you got, and it's part of that. I still
Speaker 2: believe that you guys are cursed. Every time you have
Speaker 2: a lot of success. The gods say that's enough, that's
Speaker 2: enough of that. Regress to the mean that this is
Speaker 2: what your average is. In fact, you hey, guys, that
Speaker 2: was the aberration year, the ten and whatever. You'll go
Speaker 2: back to what you were. One of those things like
Speaker 2: going he I never looked for a two and ten
Speaker 2: just balance out. Yeah, maybe you need to sacrifice you.
Speaker 2: I asked this to le Month over the weekend on Saturday,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure so a few people heard it. But Okay,
Speaker 2: they need to win three more games to become Bowl eligible.
Speaker 2: There's a difference between Bowl eligible and Bowl watchable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they go six and six. Are you gonna want this
Speaker 2: team to go play in your bowl? Oh, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of bulls out there. You know, they'll a lot
Speaker 2: of these bulls will take anybody that they qualifies. There's
Speaker 2: one year that they every every team that qualified was
Speaker 2: in a Bowl except for one. So yeah, they'll pick
Speaker 2: it up. I mean, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 2: great Arizona fans will traveled. They don't where, they don't Yeah,
Speaker 2: to watch this team, but I don't. Are we still
Speaker 2: talking about going to Yes? I mean, you've got three
Speaker 2: games with four left. I mean, if you need motivation,
Speaker 2: there it is. But my thing is they haven't give me.
Speaker 2: You talk about moments, and maybe Henry will know this
Speaker 2: because he's a smart dude that remembers. I don't how
Speaker 2: many great moments have there been? Yeah, not a lot.
Speaker 2: I think that. I think that, you know, our high
Speaker 2: water mark everyone said, everyone would like to You know,
Speaker 2: if you ask people of the high water market earlier,
Speaker 2: they would have said Utah without a doubt. Now, of course,
Speaker 2: Utah has turned out to be what they are, But
Speaker 2: I would say our high water mark was Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: We were you know, Texas Tech is a good team.
Speaker 2: We were right in that game. T Mac doesn't fumble
Speaker 2: that ball, we go down, we kick a field goal,
Speaker 2: we win that game. If Luke doesn't miss that field goal,
Speaker 2: the complexion of the game changes too. Yeah, it does
Speaker 2: change game. I mean that's earlier. A lot of things
Speaker 2: can happen at that point. I just I think that
Speaker 2: that's our high water mark, and I don't think that
Speaker 2: we've really done much since then. No, unless you talk
Speaker 2: about the fourth quarter where we just you know, come
Speaker 2: out some garbage time and here's and here's a rub too.
Speaker 2: Being a journalist or whatever you want to call me.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, you asked the team, have you
Speaker 2: given this? Do you feel like you've given up? I mean,
Speaker 2: that's kind of the last resort question of the whole. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: what do you think? Do you That's an acquisational, accusational question,
Speaker 2: right right? Do you love your wife? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? What you are you? How
Speaker 2: are you gonna answer that? Yeah? Are you still beating
Speaker 2: your wife? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: damage you do. Damn you do. But you know, it's
Speaker 2: one of those things where if you ask these guys,
Speaker 2: if you look into their eyes and say, have you
Speaker 2: given up? Wow, man, that is the worst thing you
Speaker 2: could say. To an athlete. Now the answer, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, their eyes may answer like, well kind of yeah,
Speaker 2: talk to me to tell me on the ask me
Speaker 2: on the other side of the curtain. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: going right, It's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 2: going I think a lot of these guys are peering
Speaker 2: into the poor Yeah. Well, the mean I did this
Speaker 2: story in nineteen ninety six. It was on a basketball
Speaker 2: was doing okay. You know JB had been out academically,
Speaker 2: they were doing okay. I won't say who I talked
Speaker 2: to at the game where they're playing Stanford. They got
Speaker 2: beat and he gave me the exclusive that they weren't
Speaker 2: getting along. They were not playing everybody was playing for
Speaker 2: themselves because that was there were seniors. They had to
Speaker 2: worry about what was going to happen afterward, right, And
Speaker 2: he was candid with me, very candid with me. I
Speaker 2: wrote the story for the next day and people were
Speaker 2: like what what and yeah they were saying and they
Speaker 2: were saying exactly that. They eventually got it straightened out,
Speaker 2: you know, Luke kind of stepped in and say, you know,
Speaker 2: this is how you feel. What the hell you doing? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're here, We're here. As a team, not as a
Speaker 2: bunch of individuals. And they went to Sweet sixteen they
Speaker 2: had Kansas on the ropes. But if that's the case,
Speaker 2: at some point you got to say enough of this. BS.
Speaker 2: You're here for individual but you're here to play as
Speaker 2: a team. Yeah, so as a player, you know, I
Speaker 2: you know, from my perspective, like I said, it's like
Speaker 2: I've never given up. I've worked, I've worked for some
Speaker 2: bad bosses and never never gave half effort. But you know,
Speaker 2: but it sucks going to work. It does stuck going
Speaker 2: to work. There's no doubt about it, And especially in
Speaker 2: a situation like these people are in now where it's
Speaker 2: like going when you know these players right now, you
Speaker 2: know when heck, when I was playing, it was one
Speaker 2: of those things where it's like going, you're out of school,
Speaker 2: Well you better stay at that school because you're not
Speaker 2: going anywhere else. Now it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, okay, I could get a better deal
Speaker 2: somewhere else. You know, this isn't going anywhere. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just wait till the end of the season hit. I
Speaker 2: still think money has an issue, but yeah, absolutely, you
Speaker 2: know they agree with me or not. I don't care,
Speaker 2: but it's I think it's an issue. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that there are people that want to get theirs. I
Speaker 2: think there are people that want to keep theirs. I
Speaker 2: think that that is motivating a lot of people to
Speaker 2: do a lot of things. But what was the last
Speaker 2: time you heard or seen Justin Flow the name and
Speaker 2: play me two week three? Yes, a former four star,
Speaker 2: big time dude. Right, I was watching watching the game.
Speaker 2: I didn't see him because he was a special team dude,
Speaker 2: crazy on special teams. Right, I haven't seen him at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just very odd. Yeah, it is,
Speaker 2: Well again, you got to you gotta have a coach
Speaker 2: has got to get his team, his players in place. Uh,
Speaker 2: they gonna want to happen with Jed Okay when when
Speaker 2: he was here first years, like Wing, he inherited a team,
Speaker 2: had to get his players in place. The I'll give
Speaker 2: him that if he can recruit. Recruiting is a lot
Speaker 2: more difficult now because it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, hey, how much money am I
Speaker 2: going to get? You know, people aren't like, hey how
Speaker 2: much am I going to get? Developed?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not interested in that. You know, it's like,
Speaker 2: can you make me a pro player? No, but we
Speaker 2: can give you one hundred thousand dollars right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm taking that. Oh yeah, yeah, well I better get it,
Speaker 2: get it before exactly exactly. And you don't blame them, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't blame nobody. I'll tell you what if I
Speaker 2: walk out of this show right now and someone offers
Speaker 2: me a hunt dozand dollars, I'm not doing another show
Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I mean
Speaker 2: it's not it's it is no no where I stand.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. But but but that's that's kind of the
Speaker 2: way it is. Now we've set that up. It's the
Speaker 2: worst thing that happened to college sports ever. Ever it is.
Speaker 2: But it was one of those things where it's like
Speaker 2: and you can't really I guess you can't blame them.
Speaker 2: I mean it was the decisions that were kind of
Speaker 2: meant to be. You know, when you sit there and
Speaker 2: you look at you know, O Abandon who started this stuff,
Speaker 2: is like on that cat got no money at all,
Speaker 2: got nothing, and they they now now there's something in
Speaker 2: now And I do remember Dave in Stohommeyer driving around
Speaker 2: in his uh BMW, I don't remember that. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: it sat there and it's like going, hum hmmm. So
Speaker 2: so let me say this. The Jason Terry's and the A. G.
Speaker 2: Brahms are you know, going back in to trying to
Speaker 2: get Mario Chalmers. I guess has had a big story
Speaker 2: about him going, you know, the n cua A tournament
Speaker 2: and stuff. I want to get mine, Yeah, I I
Speaker 2: want to get mine from back back the day, yeah,
Speaker 2: day where you know how much money you having? How
Speaker 2: much can you spend for lunch today? Sometimes you just
Speaker 2: don't have enough? Yeah. No, that's the thing about it.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone wants reparations.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: how you get get to that point where you sit
Speaker 2: there and they are going to settle some sort of giant,
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar lawsuit with the NCAA. But that's not
Speaker 2: going to solve the problem. What was that word I
Speaker 2: used again? Maybe two years ago when you're obviously what
Speaker 2: the hell word? Oh? Yeah, because I'm good, going to
Speaker 2: google reparations right one one time? One time? So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: one time. Yeah, reparations are reparations. Yeah, you've you've heard
Speaker 2: that word. Yes, you use word facetious, which I thought
Speaker 2: was pretty good. That's a big word for you. This
Speaker 2: it was was a five dollars word. There you go.
Speaker 2: It cost me everything I had in my budget. It's
Speaker 2: a good thing that I notice you googled it before.
Speaker 2: You've mentioned exactly nitrogen. Yeah, that's a big it's big word.
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, I don't happen to be a u
Speaker 2: A professor. Yeah, I'm an engineering professor. Well, hell, I
Speaker 2: have big words. Gilligan had a professor. They couldn't get
Speaker 2: him out the dam life. What the hell? What the hell? Oh,
Speaker 2: so you're going to be going to any games soon
Speaker 2: or you give up football games? Yeah? Well yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be going to the well probably, I think
Speaker 2: I go to all the rest of the all the
Speaker 2: rest of the games, there's like two or three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll definitely go to I haven't been to the a
Speaker 2: SU game in a long time. The uh, we're always
Speaker 2: out of town for that game. And you go to
Speaker 2: Ury Navy, Right, I'm not going to the Army Navy. Wow,
Speaker 2: the one you're not going to go. It's going to
Speaker 2: be the biggest game in the ever. It's down in
Speaker 2: FedEx Field in d C.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I just can't you know. It's like
Speaker 2: I got so many things going on. Like I said,
Speaker 2: they may play two weekends in a row. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Oh that's maybe got crushed by Notre Dame. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm wearing my Notre Dame stuff today. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: guys hate each other. But the Army quarterback is pretty
Speaker 2: pretty solid. Army quarterbacks pretty solid. The uh he he's
Speaker 2: he's doing it good. He's running up the numbers. He's
Speaker 2: in the Heisman discussion. Yeah, h hey football. College football
Speaker 2: now is like the topsy turvy Oregon one, you know,
Speaker 2: Georgia two. I think, well, when you think about it,
Speaker 2: like Indiana undefeated. You know, he's a cut out of
Speaker 2: the Washington world. Is that would be Washington pretty easily?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, handled them, it's like going, it's really something else.
Speaker 2: And they beat Nebraska. Yeah, they crashed Nebraska, and then
Speaker 2: Nebraska nearly beat Ohio State. I wonder if a high
Speaker 2: state was looking past that day any given Saturday, given Saturday,
Speaker 2: you know there's Pence. Does Penn State show there for real?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, well, eventually they show that they're
Speaker 2: not for real sometho. So we'll see what happens generally,
Speaker 2: any we've got some time, we got about six minutes
Speaker 2: or so five two zero four one, six seventy four
Speaker 2: forty calling for your therapy session or or our therapy session.
Speaker 2: What would be your suggestory, what would be your suggestion
Speaker 2: their suggestion on the air to see how this gets fixed? Besides,
Speaker 2: you know, this doesn't get fixed this year. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's not a magic potion that I see where it's like,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we've got a we've got a
Speaker 2: winning team. Uh now we have we have a team
Speaker 2: that can win. I think, you know, injuries have made
Speaker 2: it to the point where it's like going, okay, we're
Speaker 2: not gonna we're not gonna be able to hold people.
Speaker 2: Our defenses is pretty beat up. I think that, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, our offense is gonna suddenly, you know, start
Speaker 2: scoring a ton of points. It's gonna be tough this year.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a tough It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: tough year. Now. I am hopeful, okay about the uh
Speaker 2: the future though, you know, let's let's see where this goes. Uh,
Speaker 2: how so, well, I'm hopeful in the fact that so, look,
Speaker 2: you can give you a lot of very individually talented players, okay,
Speaker 2: and not have an individually talented team. And that's what
Speaker 2: you need. I mean, they need something like that. You
Speaker 2: need somebody, You need an individually you need an individually
Speaker 2: talented team.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, Brennan, given the opportunity
Speaker 2: for him to bring in his guys and have an
Speaker 2: entire work up, I think that he should be able
Speaker 2: to bring in, you know, make a team. Do we
Speaker 2: get a weta? We gotta call Hello, you're on the
Speaker 2: air and I on the ball. Who's this hey, Steve, Mike,
Speaker 2: what's the word? What do you got?
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, Steve, you can't say a team
Speaker 12: is cursed and then turn around when they turned, when
Speaker 12: they turn things around.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 12: You cannot say that they don't have momentum.
Speaker 2: Uh. You you can't.
Speaker 12: You can't and be cursed if you cannot have momentum.
Speaker 12: There's no such thing as a curse.
Speaker 2: There is, Yes, there is. You don't believe that there's curses.
Speaker 12: I believe there's curses. I also believe there's momentum. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 12: you can use that word. However, I'm not going to
Speaker 12: use in that context. Well not this year, there's no Yeah,
Speaker 12: I think what Mike was just saying, they're they're not
Speaker 12: fixing this this year. We we've got too many guys that.
Speaker 2: That we got one.
Speaker 12: You got to have starters to be able to win games,
Speaker 12: and we're running out of starters by the week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 12: We're a lot hurt. A little hurt is one or
Speaker 12: two guys, you know, and and and and we're a
Speaker 12: lot hurt. And for whatever reason, that is bad luck,
Speaker 12: bad training, whatever the case may be. But I think that, uh,
Speaker 12: you know, I'm not one of these that wants Brent
Speaker 12: Brennan fired just yet because he might be our best
Speaker 12: shot at having a good long term coach. Now, we
Speaker 12: got to get the good part down and then see
Speaker 12: about the long term because I'm tired of being I'm
Speaker 12: tired of Arizona being a turnstile school for these coaches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because we knew that.
Speaker 12: You know, Mike Stoops didn't pan out, but I didn't
Speaker 12: think he was going to be here for the long haul.
Speaker 12: Would have if he if he would have been, And
Speaker 12: I think he did it wrong the whole way because
Speaker 12: what he did was everybody got elevated. He got elevated
Speaker 12: to be a head coach for the first time, his
Speaker 12: brother got elevated to be the DC for the first time,
Speaker 12: Mike Canalis was a was a OC for the first time,
Speaker 12: and you had everybody trying to learn on the job.
Speaker 12: I do that.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 12: I don't think that Brennan needed to bring Dino Babers
Speaker 12: in to be the OC to help him learn how
Speaker 12: to be a head coach. He's been a head coach
Speaker 12: for six seven years or even longer.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 12: I know that he was head coach at Santose stayed
Speaker 12: for the last six or seven years whatever, So I
Speaker 12: do you think he'll get it together?
Speaker 2: Do you blame these coaches for going on? I mean,
Speaker 2: like you know, fish fish in a payday at Washington.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just that and done. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: If it pits it up for somebody, if you win,
Speaker 2: they're gonna come and get you. It just did the
Speaker 2: thing well for some people.
Speaker 12: For some people, I think Tucson and the U of
Speaker 12: A could be enough because if if you go into
Speaker 12: that bigger fish bowl, there's bigger fish in there, that
Speaker 12: are ready to eat.
Speaker 2: You in there.
Speaker 12: Of course, of course, you know, you go, you go
Speaker 12: someplace like, well, Kaylin de Borg, he's got two losses already.
Speaker 12: I mean, that's you know, with that team, you know,
Speaker 12: and people are wanting to fire Brannan And we're not
Speaker 12: nowhere near Alabama. But here's a guy that has a team,
Speaker 12: had had a team, had a roster that you know,
Speaker 12: you know, who could argue to say that they didn't
Speaker 12: have a legitimate shot to go undefeated. And here they
Speaker 12: are with two losses and they're acting like they're a
Speaker 12: bunch of losers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's already they've already said that they've got
Speaker 2: the number one recruiting class, okay, And so it's like
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like, let's see what
Speaker 2: he does last year? Well they want to they're not
Speaker 2: going to fire him. What was Arizona's recruiting class?
Speaker 12: What was Arizona's recruiting class before Jetfish took them all
Speaker 12: with him?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 2: You know, so I think that, you know, don't you know,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in recruiting classes anyway, don because you've
Speaker 2: hurting me enough. But you still got to coach these
Speaker 2: guys if they don't want to pay for you, you do,
Speaker 2: I don't care how good you are. If you don't
Speaker 2: want to play for him, that that's true.
Speaker 12: If they don't want to play for him because of
Speaker 12: whatever difference is the way he does it different or whatever.
Speaker 12: I've heard it secondhand that Bret Brennan is a lot
Speaker 12: more hands on in practice.
Speaker 2: Than Jetfish ever was. Jetfish was glad.
Speaker 12: Handing the eye rollers and he was being a CEO
Speaker 12: on that thing, whereas everybody's been everybody's been accusing of
Speaker 12: Brennan of being a CEO type coach and letting you know,
Speaker 12: just because he's not calling the plays doesn't mean he's
Speaker 12: not involved, right.
Speaker 2: It's just a different approach for different times. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just do you We got about
Speaker 2: thirty seconds. Do you believe or maybe even think a
Speaker 2: little like me that this team is not giving up?
Speaker 12: But it's close, It's it's really close. I think the injuries,
Speaker 12: I think the probably probably the philosophy change is hurt
Speaker 12: it a little bit. The process has hurt a little bit,
Speaker 12: and the injuries have heard it hurt it a little bit.
Speaker 12: So I mean, we we we everything that could go
Speaker 12: wrong has gone wrong right, and and the only thing,
Speaker 12: the only the only way they can go from.
Speaker 2: Here on out is to go up. Yeah, and to
Speaker 2: get a win or two or three or whatever it is. Okay, Don,
Speaker 2: thanks for calling.
Speaker 12: If they get a couple of wins, I think they
Speaker 12: could be you know, it's a good step in stone.
Speaker 2: For next year. Yeah, thank you, Don. We got to go. Thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks so called, Thanks buddy. Yeah, we're doing there.
Speaker 10: We go.
Speaker 2: We can go and come to you for breaking news.