Speaker 1: Uh, what's up, everybody. It's me Cecily here with Stephanie.
Speaker 1: You girls, and uh, it's Courtney Stotton Day, which is
Speaker 1: every day in Stephanie's heart.
Speaker 2: I mean, do people know who she is?
Speaker 1: I think that our listeners, you know, our cool ass
Speaker 1: gen X mostly listeners probably do. But I know some
Speaker 1: of you may not. Maybe some of you are younger,
Speaker 1: and you didn't. You didn't quite you weren't really paying
Speaker 1: attention to this kind of nonsense back in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: We're going to put you in a.
Speaker 1: Time machine and help you in a second with that.
Speaker 3: But Courtney Stoddon is famous for no reason.
Speaker 2: Really, well you know what. Let me read you a
Speaker 2: little bit off her wiki page and could we can
Speaker 2: We can interrupt with thoughts if we want, but just
Speaker 2: so that everybody is clear on who she is. Okay.
Speaker 2: So she was born in nineteen ninety four. She calls
Speaker 2: well WICKI calls her an American American media personality, model
Speaker 2: and singer. Did you know that?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: She competed in beauty pageants in her home state of Washington,
Speaker 2: and she's known for releasing the original music. Sixteen year
Speaker 2: old Stadden came to international attention. After being wed to
Speaker 2: fifty one year old actor Doug Hutchinson in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: So the controversy and media attention surrounding the marriage led
Speaker 2: Stadden to appear on the reality television shows Couples Therapy.
Speaker 2: I remember a year after she got married, Celebrity Big Brother.
Speaker 2: That was another year later, Reality ex Wives, The Mother
Speaker 2: Daughter Experiment, Celebs Go Dating, and then Courtney in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Then a really based on nothing, just so you know,
Speaker 1: she had a lot of when she was sixteen, she
Speaker 1: started having like implants and stuff. This is and I'm
Speaker 1: not putting the blame on her, putting the blame on
Speaker 1: her mother, but all kinds of weird shit, you know,
Speaker 1: was like happening where that she was sort of playboying
Speaker 1: her child.
Speaker 2: Yes, that should be an actual, that should be a
Speaker 2: verb when you're playgoings.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the best way that I can put it.
Speaker 1: And she now, I want to say, God before we
Speaker 1: start going down all these rabbit holes, because there are
Speaker 1: going to be quite a few.
Speaker 3: That's who she was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a time twenty eleven. She's sixteen.
Speaker 1: I believe at the time She's right, she's so young.
Speaker 2: So and Doug Hutchinson, her was her acting teacher, and
Speaker 2: then he fell in love with her. He claims he
Speaker 2: didn't know how old she was, but the mom apparently
Speaker 2: was totally fine with him marrying her.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he was in his fifties her acting. He's
Speaker 1: been married already twice, so this was Courtney was his
Speaker 1: third marriage. And they, of course got married in Vegas
Speaker 1: because I guess, I don't know was she's sixteen or
Speaker 1: seventeen when they actually got married, but they had to
Speaker 1: be legal in the state. Yeah, and he says she
Speaker 1: believed that she was well into her twenties. Now, I
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that if you're someone's acting coach,
Speaker 1: you do ask a lot of questions you're not. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like an act, like you're gonna know if they're
Speaker 1: sixteen or twenty five, no matter what they look like.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely insane. And I don't believe that, of course
Speaker 1: not so, Yeah, she's sixteen, And his whole.
Speaker 2: Thing was like, what are you possibly talking about me?
Speaker 2: A pedophile? Absolutely not. I just I thought you're older.
Speaker 1: Right, And he knew once he knew she was sixteen,
Speaker 1: that Nevada was where you could you could legally get
Speaker 1: married with parental consent.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: His wiki and so therefore Vegas it was and people
Speaker 1: are like, that's crazy, but as it says, as you
Speaker 1: just said, Hutch and say and had a lot of defenders,
Speaker 1: including Courtney's mom, who's we gotta do a whole thing
Speaker 1: about her too. Her name's Krista Keller, and she praised
Speaker 1: him for his kindness and love.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Doctor Jen Berman, a therapist who worked with a couple
Speaker 1: during couple's therapy.
Speaker 3: Jhen Berman, there's something wrong with that woman. I am
Speaker 3: telling you.
Speaker 2: I've always said that. I've said it. She sucks.
Speaker 1: She's crazy, sucks like suck sucks. It's so crazy. I
Speaker 1: can't and I'm trying to think. I'm trying to shoot her.
Speaker 2: Whole thing was she was like at first. Yeah. First
Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's not good. That sounds like
Speaker 2: kind of maybe he's a pedophile. But then I got
Speaker 2: to know them and I was like, oh, they're just
Speaker 2: like regular people having marital problems.
Speaker 1: They popped on a lot of things. But I also
Speaker 1: want to say, now, what we're going to get you
Speaker 1: today is something different. But Courtney in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: so about five years ago she publicly stated this is
Speaker 1: on Wiki that her marriage was a result of Doug
Speaker 1: Hutchinson grooming her.
Speaker 3: So this isn't like just out of the believe.
Speaker 1: This was five years ago, allegedly started with him reaching
Speaker 1: out via email, So this wasn't just like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: the teacher and either in class and they're doing this
Speaker 1: fun scene and oh my god, is she twenty vibe?
Speaker 3: I hope. So even that's creepy.
Speaker 1: Even if he's fifty and her acting teacher, it's still
Speaker 1: gross and so but no, instead he emails her and
Speaker 1: then it says he stated in a twenty eleven interview
Speaker 1: that Courtney contacted him via email first under her mother's supervision,
Speaker 1: and it says Courtney can did confirm that back then.
Speaker 3: So either way, he's no hero.
Speaker 1: Even if even if she's lying about the email, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure could be pretty easily proven, either way, like,
Speaker 1: it's still creepy. This is not like, oh, okay, okay, Doug,
Speaker 1: you're cool. Sorry she emailed you first, you got it, then.
Speaker 2: It's it's all bad. And also oh there's more.
Speaker 1: Oh. Courtney also said that he this guy had similar
Speaker 1: had started a similar relationship with a fifteen year old girl.
Speaker 1: He's fifty fifteen years old within a month of their divorce.
Speaker 3: So as soon as Courtney and like she.
Speaker 1: Aged out, then they got divorced, and then he did
Speaker 1: it again with a fifteen year old This guy is horrendous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the Daily Beast has a like a written
Speaker 1: correspondence and voicemail recordings between them. So that apparently is
Speaker 1: a very real thing which we could get into or not.
Speaker 3: But ew ew ew ew. Yeah, I just became Lisa caudrou.
Speaker 2: And then and I'll say this because you know, so Okay,
Speaker 2: so this girl, which is probably what some might argue was,
Speaker 2: became like very hyper sexualized, like her whole thing became
Speaker 2: she running an OnlyFans account and then stopping her only
Speaker 2: fans account and then started like her own kind of
Speaker 2: reality show. I think there was just a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of exploiting her own sexuality. But imagine if
Speaker 2: her mom's trying to make money off of her at sixteen,
Speaker 2: Like what are you teaching? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: if yeah, she starts to think her only worth is
Speaker 2: as a like sexual commodity.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and what kind of mom is Like, Okay, your
Speaker 1: fifty year old acting teachers super into you. You're she's sixteen,
Speaker 1: you're a sophomore in high school. You are not even
Speaker 1: a senior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're not.
Speaker 3: I mean you even the mom was yet, right, that's insane.
Speaker 2: The mom was into it until later, until later when
Speaker 2: they got married and then he started she was she
Speaker 2: was her daughter's manager, and then Doug took over being
Speaker 2: the manager. Then you know, she like got pissed. It's all.
Speaker 2: It's all really gross. But that is all to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so now, so okay, many years ago, Courtney
Speaker 1: was appearing in lots of things and whatever, and one
Speaker 1: of the things she appeared in was a funny or
Speaker 1: Die sketch co starring her and Jason Alexander, who's of
Speaker 1: course George Costanza from Seinfeld. I'll know who Jason Alexander is,
Speaker 1: and you probably have heard the story. We're just going
Speaker 1: to deep dive it. So she has come out they
Speaker 1: did this thing, and do we want to play a clip.
Speaker 1: We don't know if it's going to translate from the clip,
Speaker 1: but we maybe do a sound up first from the clip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see if but see if it plays if
Speaker 2: you understand what's happening. Okay, So Jason Alexander is standing
Speaker 2: in front of Courtney, who is wearing a bikini. She's
Speaker 2: got really big boobs, They're big fake boobs, and he's
Speaker 2: going to rub the phone on her boobs. So we're
Speaker 2: gonna let's hear it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have a special app here on my iPhone
Speaker 4: and if I may, I'm going to use this to
Speaker 4: just find out what's what's in the quality of your heart?
Speaker 4: Not this side, not this side.
Speaker 2: Courtney Stodden is calling out actor Jason Alexander one of those.
Speaker 1: Okay, well but we got we got the idea and
Speaker 1: it was creepy and he sounded creepy even doing that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying that he's a pedophile or anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, bad instinct.
Speaker 2: He's going to rub the phone basically sort of on
Speaker 2: her crotch or her boobs, no, but her boobs. And
Speaker 2: then he says, well, I'm getting better reception, Like the
Speaker 2: joke is all about our boobs, right, which.
Speaker 3: Has been done. It's not unheard of, but it's not ideal.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of like those really like eighties,
Speaker 1: maybe even early Judd Apatow like those movies where you're like,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do that now.
Speaker 2: The problem, though, the problem that you definitely wouldn't do
Speaker 2: that now is that she's seventeen when they made this,
Speaker 2: and Doug, her husband slash owner, is sitting right next
Speaker 2: to her in the sketch. He's in the sketch.
Speaker 1: Oh gross, Yeah, well she has been thinking about that
Speaker 1: sketch Courtney Stotton, and she started thinking about it and
Speaker 1: then came out with a thing publicly which we can
Speaker 1: read where she's like, yeah, that was pretty fucked up
Speaker 1: with Jason. I don't really care for what that sketch was.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is coming out right now.
Speaker 2: She says, I was seventeen years old in this photo,
Speaker 2: she wrote, sharing an image of Jason Alexander holding an
Speaker 2: iPhone against her breast. So he was fifty two at
Speaker 2: the time. Okay, the actor, which I is, Jason Alexander,
Speaker 2: is fifty two. He's wearing a polo and blazer while
Speaker 2: she's in a skimpy bikini. She says. The older I get,
Speaker 2: the more impossible this is to understand. She continued, recalling
Speaker 2: how Alexander quote repeatedly rubbed his phone across my breast
Speaker 2: while saying, there's quote no signal in my head, but
Speaker 2: plenty of signal in my chest. She added later in
Speaker 2: the sketch that he joked that when I turn eighteen,
Speaker 2: he'd like to take me behind the couch and have
Speaker 2: his way with me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god too.
Speaker 1: It was all it's like all those countdown clucks, remember
Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher, The countdown sucks the with the Olsen Twins.
Speaker 1: But they were starting those at like twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it says that Jason Alexander, who's now sixty six,
Speaker 2: He is listed as a writer on the sketch.
Speaker 3: Okay, weird, Okay, yeah, okay, so she said that, so so,
Speaker 3: she says.
Speaker 2: She says, as an adult, that fact has become harder,
Speaker 2: not easier, for me to understand. I was a minor.
Speaker 2: She says, I didn't have the legal power to decide
Speaker 2: whether I wanted to participate. The contracts were signed by adults,
Speaker 2: the paycheck went to Doug. She says, the production moved forward,
Speaker 2: I was the only child in the room. I felt
Speaker 2: so alone. And then she says she's thirty one now.
Speaker 2: She says she doesn't see the sketches comedy. Looking back
Speaker 2: on it for fourteen years later, she says, quote, I see
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old girl whose body became part of
Speaker 2: an adult joke. People still say you chose to be there. Legally,
Speaker 2: I couldn't make those decisions for myself. That's the point. Quote.
Speaker 2: I can't change what happened to me, but I can
Speaker 2: ask myself, how did so many adults look at a
Speaker 2: miner and decide this was acceptable? And she said, That's
Speaker 2: exactly why I speak out today. Children deserve laws to
Speaker 2: protect them that they shouldn't have to become adults before
Speaker 2: realizing the law should have protected them all along. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she says this is a statement. To page six,
Speaker 2: she says, at seventeen, I was a miner working in
Speaker 2: an environment where the adults around me were responsible for
Speaker 2: my safety and well being. Looking back, as an adult,
Speaker 2: I see those experiences very differently than I did at
Speaker 2: the time. My reason for speaking out now isn't about
Speaker 2: revisiting the past for its own sake. It's about helping
Speaker 2: create a future where children are better protected and where
Speaker 2: adults and positions of power are held to a higher standard.
Speaker 2: I say bravo to that yeah.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I mean I don't. Okay, So
Speaker 3: first before we get into.
Speaker 1: All that, because there's a lot to go there, Jason
Speaker 1: immediately apologized.
Speaker 3: Jason Alexander was like, I'm so start In fact, I'll
Speaker 3: read I can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it right here.
Speaker 3: If you want, okay, you gonta ahead and read it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says. He says, looking back at the comedy
Speaker 2: sketch in which ms. Stauden and I participated in twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: I completely agree it was inappropriate and I truly regret it.
Speaker 2: But more importantly, I'm deeply sorry for any harm or
Speaker 2: distress it has caused. Mis Stadden. I offer her my
Speaker 2: sincerest apologies. So that's what he said. How do you
Speaker 2: feel about that apology? I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 2: good apology. I think he owned it.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, comedy changes, times have changed, she
Speaker 1: was presented in this way that she seemed to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying it's fine now through even then.
Speaker 1: I back then, I remember feeling less about I had
Speaker 1: less feelings about the fact that, oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: seventeen or whatever. I thought that was so creepy and
Speaker 1: disgusting at sixteen marrying Doug.
Speaker 3: I thought the mother.
Speaker 1: Should be in jail, but I was also super creeped
Speaker 1: out by her. And now, as you know older, I
Speaker 1: can look back and go, well, maybe I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been so creeped out, Like you know, she didn't know better,
Speaker 1: but she was insufferable. I don't want to rewrite the history.
Speaker 1: It doesn't change what she's doesn't change that what she
Speaker 1: says is correct and important, and I agree with what
Speaker 1: she's saying, but it also don't forget like we had
Speaker 1: to go through like a full decade of her in
Speaker 1: our like on our TVs and in our world, that
Speaker 1: she seemed.
Speaker 3: She seemed like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I shouldn't say she seemed like,
Speaker 1: but her mom seemed like there was just nothing they
Speaker 1: wouldn't do, and she greatly played up the bullshit like
Speaker 1: she was really really annoying.
Speaker 3: So I think she's right to say what she's saying.
Speaker 1: And I think Jason, I don't know what else he
Speaker 1: could do, But it turns out there is something else
Speaker 1: he could do. Because she said the apology, she basically
Speaker 1: came back and was like, Okay, great, thanks for the apology,
Speaker 1: but I need you to do more.
Speaker 3: I want you to give to this nonprofit.
Speaker 2: You yes, And I have to say my feelings have
Speaker 2: changed since even we talked about doing this story, because
Speaker 2: because we talked about Jason Alexander and how he's like
Speaker 2: a known to be like a super nice guy right seemingly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've met him, he was great, But I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't meet him at seventeen, and I didn't have
Speaker 1: him rub a cell phone on me. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I wish I dream about that's how I get there fantasized.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my saying. That's like, that's not everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of, like the big fifty year
Speaker 1: old with the twenty year old or and then younger especially,
Speaker 1: it's just horrifying to me. I can't believe that it's
Speaker 1: a thing. Well, and when that's the problem is like
Speaker 1: when you hear all this background, you hear the details,
Speaker 1: and you go, she yes, she was hyper sexualized, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying she didn't want to be married
Speaker 1: or think she wanted to be married, but she was
Speaker 1: a child, she was a young teenager. My twins are
Speaker 1: two years older than she was at the time that
Speaker 1: she married a gross old man who likes young girls
Speaker 1: who found a fifteen year old after they ended. So
Speaker 1: at that point he was in his sixties and he
Speaker 1: was with a fifteen year old, Like, I mean, he
Speaker 1: wanted barely a pedophile Like it's I can't believe. Not
Speaker 1: only and he continues to get jobs. Someone brought this up,
Speaker 1: which is very interesting. This is on Reddit, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to go to ahead of ourselves, but don't
Speaker 1: forget the big fight between Courtney and Chrissy Chigan. You
Speaker 1: might want to look that up because you remember that
Speaker 1: whole shakedown of course. Yeah, oh my god, because someone's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: look up Chrissy Chigan's treatment of this child. People including
Speaker 1: Chrissy told her to kill herself.
Speaker 3: Yeh wow.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about that. It says for no reason.
Speaker 1: Her quote claim to fame was literally being a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old married to an adult. Yeah, no, that I remember.
Speaker 1: We talked about that probably on board. Oh we have,
Speaker 1: We've done an episode about it. No, Christy Tigan again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chrissy Teagan basically apologized completely. Okay, hold on, because
Speaker 2: I think I believe this is in that shit was
Speaker 2: crazy crazy. Yeah, So that's in this Wikipedia page okay.
Speaker 2: In May twenty twenty one, Stutton said that Chrissy Teagan
Speaker 2: tweeted and privately messaged her urging her to kill herself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she told her she should take a good dirt nap
Speaker 2: because Chrissy Teagan went through a phase where she was crazy,
Speaker 2: she was an alcoholic.
Speaker 3: I think it had happened. I don't think it was random.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was like.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she was deserved, but it was not
Speaker 1: a random like they had been. She had said something
Speaker 1: to her, they were having some kind of there was
Speaker 1: an issue.
Speaker 3: Something had happened. She didn't just ran.
Speaker 2: At Christy Tiagan says. She subsequently apologized to Stauden, saying
Speaker 2: she was sad and mortified at her past self, whom
Speaker 2: she described as quote an insecure, attention seeking troll. Stauden
Speaker 2: accepted her apology but deemed it an attempt to save
Speaker 2: Tiegan's business partnerships. A month later, Teagan released another apology
Speaker 2: in a lengthy blog post, admitting to cyberbullying.
Speaker 1: Wow yeah, I do wow yeah, and that I just
Speaker 1: looked up caused it. Says she considered offering herself Courtney.
Speaker 1: She says because of the cyberbullying from not only Christy
Speaker 1: Teagan but other celebrities. So people are talking about that too,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure, I'm sure happened all the time.
Speaker 2: One of the things too, that's in her wiki page
Speaker 2: is that she was bullied really bad as a younger kid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's started developing early, and she left school and was homeschooled.
Speaker 2: So looking back, I guess I'm saying, you know, I
Speaker 2: think I probably was made fun of her too a
Speaker 2: lot at the time, and she was seemed weird and
Speaker 2: you know, doing all this stuff herself. But then when
Speaker 2: you look back and you go, okay. So Jason Alexander,
Speaker 2: he's in this sketch with the husband who's in who's
Speaker 2: Jason Alexander's age? He knows this girl seventeen years old,
Speaker 2: and he's like, he signs off, he writes a sketch
Speaker 2: like I have to say, I'm calling like this whole
Speaker 2: thing out, which is like, yeah, okay, times have changed,
Speaker 2: but why were they that way then? Why would why
Speaker 2: did anybody think that that's appropriate for a man to go? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I want to take you behind a couch
Speaker 2: and fuck you.
Speaker 3: What the what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you know we talked about this the
Speaker 1: other day. That's disgusting, But I I also was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a little harder, and I'm I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to take you. We try to take
Speaker 1: each other down with our takes, but I'm a little
Speaker 1: tougher on Howard Stern than you are. I feel like
Speaker 1: you feel because he is apologized, and I agree people
Speaker 1: can get better and evolve, and I know he does
Speaker 1: a lot of good things too, as Jason does, you know,
Speaker 1: but I think, like I Howard Stern the way that
Speaker 1: he treated women. Let's say they weren't even seventeen, but
Speaker 1: sometimes they probably were on that E show, the way
Speaker 1: that he treated them and talked about how fat they
Speaker 1: were and made them turn around like they were like
Speaker 1: livestock and talked about their butts. And Robin too, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not giving her a pass either. They
Speaker 1: were horrifying for years, I mean decades, and it's like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: it's fine, whatever, But why was that allowed for so long?
Speaker 1: It was like that's just the way it disgustingly was
Speaker 1: for a long time when he had that show on E.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just remember it was like depressing
Speaker 1: to me, I felt depressed, and well.
Speaker 2: Many people are still like that. That's the whole MANI
Speaker 2: sphere of it all. I mean, well, yeah, we're back
Speaker 2: Andrew Tate. I mean he's yeah. I mean, people love
Speaker 2: Andrew Tate. We had to seriously, we had to somebody
Speaker 2: that we like very much. We had to edit their
Speaker 2: appearance on our episode because they were talking about how
Speaker 2: great Andrew Tate is. It's like that we we still
Speaker 2: normalize this stuff. And yeah, I mean I'm to blame too,
Speaker 2: unless unless I'm confronted with something that Howard Stern did.
Speaker 2: Then I can get swept up and going like, oh
Speaker 2: it seems great now, right, But you're you're absolutely right
Speaker 2: like this stuff, I mean, yeah, why was that okay?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: And just you know, I'm I will say, yes, at
Speaker 2: least he's seen the light now. Howard Stern's not like
Speaker 2: that now.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I don't think that Jason is known
Speaker 1: for that kind of stuff too. Is just a really
Speaker 1: bad choice that was probably made possible by the fact
Speaker 1: that that's just what the environment was.
Speaker 3: That's just what people did.
Speaker 1: That's like, it doesn't make it okay, it's just like
Speaker 1: that's it's like, oh, yeah, this is just like we're
Speaker 1: going to keep Remember how a lot of people started
Speaker 1: finally getting canceled because of their old Twitter posts and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, no, we were all just trying to
Speaker 1: one up each other.
Speaker 3: No, no, we know it's terrible. That's the joke. That's that
Speaker 3: was the joke. But people are like, yeah, but like
Speaker 3: it's not great.
Speaker 1: And then people had to kind of fight for their
Speaker 1: lives on those and you know, we've talked about that
Speaker 1: one after James Gunn was one that comes to mind,
Speaker 1: say Kevin Hart, like they're like, well, we used to
Speaker 1: always use words like this, this was two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's cool, but I'm sure if you
Speaker 1: dug into both of our twitters there's probably something we'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I would not tweet that now.
Speaker 3: Nothing like what they.
Speaker 2: Want, I guess, but I do find it. I find
Speaker 2: it unfortunate that some people do kind of get a pass,
Speaker 2: Like you're saying, but you know, people that you would
Speaker 2: never expect that, you go, well, people change, but you know,
Speaker 2: I remember when Trevor Noah was going to become the
Speaker 2: you know, host of the Daily Show, and people were
Speaker 2: talking about how much they love him, and you went
Speaker 2: back in his tweet history and he was talking about
Speaker 2: how much he can't stand like fat chicks mak you
Speaker 2: jokes about Oh yeah, she had a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, yeah, and it's like, oh, well, I've
Speaker 2: you know, sorry, it's like, okay, but you did say that,
Speaker 2: like that's what you thought was funny, and now you're
Speaker 2: supposed to be like the super like political and kind
Speaker 2: of I don't know, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, listen, two things can be true, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what was complicated for me on this one. There's
Speaker 1: no there's nothing complicated about the fact that it's really
Speaker 1: gross what went down, and especially the mom marrying her
Speaker 1: off and making her get like whatever she did, you know,
Speaker 1: getting what is it, like a H double H cup
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, like just going and going and going.
Speaker 1: But that can be true at the same time as
Speaker 1: me just like really super annoyed by her.
Speaker 3: Those are two totally separate things.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, that's the first thing
Speaker 1: that pops in my head is how much I have
Speaker 1: disliked her all these years. And you're right, maybe through
Speaker 1: a different lens of like oh well, but she was
Speaker 1: only seventeen, but I still really genuinely dislike her. But
Speaker 1: I support what she's saying in this case, and I'm
Speaker 1: just I can stand in both spaces, as they say.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you, I just like her. Are
Speaker 2: I get it? Are you standing ten toes down? Though?
Speaker 2: On business?
Speaker 3: On business? I would say, yeah, like, are you willing?
Speaker 2: Are you willing to say you're standing on business?
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say on I'm ten, I'm nine
Speaker 1: toes down and on sort of a nonprofit not on
Speaker 1: business business, but like a non profit business. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find, like, I just want to. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've covered so he hasn't. I'm sure Jason will donate
Speaker 1: if she's like yeah, I'm sure he'll be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, that makes sense, here's five thousand dollars or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he will. I hope he don't imagine. I
Speaker 1: think you will, and I think that would be the
Speaker 1: right thing to do. Now, I want to know what
Speaker 1: is the thing that she wants him, because I want
Speaker 1: to make sure it's not her nonprofit.
Speaker 2: Just that just no, she wants she wants to pass
Speaker 2: this AB twelve sixty seven, which is a bipartisan bill
Speaker 2: that would set the minimum age for marriage to eighteen,
Speaker 2: with no exceptions in California.
Speaker 3: Right, rate absolutely support that.
Speaker 1: That's my because if it was going to be like
Speaker 1: I just think he should also give to Courtney studdon
Speaker 1: dot com and I'm going to use most of that
Speaker 1: money to like just fight off all the ducks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just listen. And one of the ways that
Speaker 2: I'm going to fight it off is I'm going to
Speaker 2: buy some like really cute clothes and like maybe an
Speaker 2: eighty U for my mom.
Speaker 1: You're like, well, she's been talking about this stuff for
Speaker 1: a while, like a year ago, she went on a
Speaker 1: show on Lifetime. I'm just gonna sound this up. I
Speaker 1: should send it to you. Let me see what it is.
Speaker 3: I don't know yet. It's her just talking.
Speaker 5: Courtney Stadden, a sixteen year old bride who married a
Speaker 5: fifty one year old actor. Maybe you remember the ridicule,
Speaker 5: the outrage late nine chokes, But what you think you
Speaker 5: know is that's what some of the media painted me
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 2: The true story.
Speaker 5: The real story is so much more complicated and much worse.
Speaker 3: Oh so that's like the beginning of some things she
Speaker 3: was doing for lifetime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a movie. There's a movie about her.
Speaker 2: I think it's called like Courtney. Oh, like a documentary. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: did we see that? We should probably watch that. We
Speaker 2: should have watched that beforehand. This is from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: There's a show eleven episodes of a show called Courtney.
Speaker 2: But that's like her own show. But the no, there
Speaker 2: was like a lifetime it's like a lifetime type movie
Speaker 2: about her, about what happened. It might be on let's see.
Speaker 3: Just let's yeah, I think this is it.
Speaker 1: Maybe she was just introducing Yes, yes, because that is this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a fake thing. They sure do Muchison looked better. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was a child bride the Courtney Staddon story. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm going to watch that. We have to
Speaker 1: that immediately.
Speaker 2: We have to. It's from last year.
Speaker 1: Because why don't you set it on OZ Why don't
Speaker 1: you set this on pause. We'll go watch it. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, just watch like an hour and a half. No,
Speaker 1: in conclusion, we support what she's saying. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that it's cool that Jason apologized. I think he'll probably donate.
Speaker 1: And because to be clear, he's himself, isn't like some
Speaker 1: creepy pedophile. But yeah, bad judgment to say the least
Speaker 1: on that, and fuck the Doug Hutchinson and fuck the mom.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's what we can definitely stand ten
Speaker 2: toes down, ten toes, not just nine on fuck her
Speaker 2: mom and fuck uh Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug, Yeah, and all right, well I think we've
Speaker 1: covered that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks for listening you guys. You guys are
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 1: Oh and if by the time you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: because we are recording a couple days early, Jason may
Speaker 1: have already donated.
Speaker 3: So just like insert Jason donates something here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, bye bye.
Speaker 4: Wow. Pe think