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<v Speaker 1>Uh, what's up, everybody. It's me Cecily here with Stephanie.

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<v Speaker 1>You girls, and uh, it's Courtney Stotton Day, which is

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<v Speaker 1>every day in Stephanie's heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do people know who she is?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that our listeners, you know, our cool ass

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<v Speaker 1>gen X mostly listeners probably do. But I know some

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<v Speaker 1>of you may not. Maybe some of you are younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't. You didn't quite you weren't really paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to this kind of nonsense back in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to put you in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Time machine and help you in a second with that.

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<v Speaker 3>But Courtney Stoddon is famous for no reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, well you know what. Let me read you a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit off her wiki page and could we can

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<v Speaker 2>We can interrupt with thoughts if we want, but just

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<v Speaker 2>so that everybody is clear on who she is. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was born in nineteen ninety four. She calls

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<v Speaker 2>well WICKI calls her an American American media personality, model

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<v Speaker 2>and singer. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>She competed in beauty pageants in her home state of Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's known for releasing the original music. Sixteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old Stadden came to international attention. After being wed to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one year old actor Doug Hutchinson in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>So the controversy and media attention surrounding the marriage led

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<v Speaker 2>Stadden to appear on the reality television shows Couples Therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember a year after she got married, Celebrity Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>That was another year later, Reality ex Wives, The Mother

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<v Speaker 2>Daughter Experiment, Celebs Go Dating, and then Courtney in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a really based on nothing, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she had a lot of when she was sixteen, she

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<v Speaker 1>started having like implants and stuff. This is and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not putting the blame on her, putting the blame on

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<v Speaker 1>her mother, but all kinds of weird shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was like happening where that she was sort of playboying

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<v Speaker 1>her child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that should be an actual, that should be a

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<v Speaker 2>verb when you're playgoings.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's the best way that I can put it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she now, I want to say, God before we

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<v Speaker 1>start going down all these rabbit holes, because there are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be quite a few.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who she was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a time twenty eleven. She's sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe at the time She's right, she's so young.

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<v Speaker 2>So and Doug Hutchinson, her was her acting teacher, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he fell in love with her. He claims he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know how old she was, but the mom apparently

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<v Speaker 2>was totally fine with him marrying her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and he was in his fifties her acting. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been married already twice, so this was Courtney was his

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<v Speaker 1>third marriage. And they, of course got married in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>because I guess, I don't know was she's sixteen or

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen when they actually got married, but they had to

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<v Speaker 1>be legal in the state. Yeah, and he says she

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<v Speaker 1>believed that she was well into her twenties. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time believing that if you're someone's acting coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you do ask a lot of questions you're not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like an act, like you're gonna know if they're

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen or twenty five, no matter what they look like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely insane. And I don't believe that, of course

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<v Speaker 1>not so, Yeah, she's sixteen, And his whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing was like, what are you possibly talking about me?

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<v Speaker 2>A pedophile? Absolutely not. I just I thought you're older.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And he knew once he knew she was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>that Nevada was where you could you could legally get

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<v Speaker 1>married with parental consent.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>His wiki and so therefore Vegas it was and people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, that's crazy, but as it says, as you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, Hutch and say and had a lot of defenders,

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<v Speaker 1>including Courtney's mom, who's we gotta do a whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>about her too. Her name's Krista Keller, and she praised

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<v Speaker 1>him for his kindness and love.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Jen Berman, a therapist who worked with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>during couple's therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>Jhen Berman, there's something wrong with that woman. I am

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<v Speaker 3>telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said that. I've said it. She sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>She's crazy, sucks like suck sucks. It's so crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't and I'm trying to think. I'm trying to shoot her.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole thing was she was like at first. Yeah. First

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, that's not good. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of maybe he's a pedophile. But then I got

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<v Speaker 2>to know them and I was like, oh, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>like regular people having marital problems.

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<v Speaker 1>They popped on a lot of things. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, now, what we're going to get you

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<v Speaker 1>today is something different. But Courtney in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>so about five years ago she publicly stated this is

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<v Speaker 1>on Wiki that her marriage was a result of Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson grooming her.

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<v Speaker 3>So this isn't like just out of the believe.

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<v Speaker 1>This was five years ago, allegedly started with him reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out via email, So this wasn't just like, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher and either in class and they're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>fun scene and oh my god, is she twenty vibe?

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<v Speaker 3>I hope. So even that's creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he's fifty and her acting teacher, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>gross and so but no, instead he emails her and

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<v Speaker 1>then it says he stated in a twenty eleven interview

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<v Speaker 1>that Courtney contacted him via email first under her mother's supervision,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says Courtney can did confirm that back then.

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<v Speaker 3>So either way, he's no hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if even if she's lying about the email, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure could be pretty easily proven, either way, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still creepy. This is not like, oh, okay, okay, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>you're cool. Sorry she emailed you first, you got it, then.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's all bad. And also oh there's more.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Courtney also said that he this guy had similar

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<v Speaker 1>had started a similar relationship with a fifteen year old girl.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fifty fifteen years old within a month of their divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>So as soon as Courtney and like she.

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<v Speaker 1>Aged out, then they got divorced, and then he did

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<v Speaker 1>it again with a fifteen year old This guy is horrendous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Daily Beast has a like a written

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence and voicemail recordings between them. So that apparently is

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<v Speaker 1>a very real thing which we could get into or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But ew ew ew ew. Yeah, I just became Lisa caudrou.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and I'll say this because you know, so Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so this girl, which is probably what some might argue was,

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<v Speaker 2>became like very hyper sexualized, like her whole thing became

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<v Speaker 2>she running an OnlyFans account and then stopping her only

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<v Speaker 2>fans account and then started like her own kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reality show. I think there was just a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of exploiting her own sexuality. But imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>her mom's trying to make money off of her at sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are you teaching? You know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if yeah, she starts to think her only worth is

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<v Speaker 2>as a like sexual commodity.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and what kind of mom is Like, Okay, your

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<v Speaker 1>fifty year old acting teachers super into you. You're she's sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a sophomore in high school. You are not even

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<v Speaker 1>a senior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you even the mom was yet, right, that's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>The mom was into it until later, until later when

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<v Speaker 2>they got married and then he started she was she

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<v Speaker 2>was her daughter's manager, and then Doug took over being

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<v Speaker 2>the manager. Then you know, she like got pissed. It's all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all really gross. But that is all to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so now, so okay, many years ago, Courtney

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<v Speaker 1>was appearing in lots of things and whatever, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things she appeared in was a funny or

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<v Speaker 1>Die sketch co starring her and Jason Alexander, who's of

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<v Speaker 1>course George Costanza from Seinfeld. I'll know who Jason Alexander is,

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<v Speaker 1>and you probably have heard the story. We're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to deep dive it. So she has come out they

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<v Speaker 1>did this thing, and do we want to play a clip.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know if it's going to translate from the clip,

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<v Speaker 1>but we maybe do a sound up first from the clip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's see if but see if it plays if

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<v Speaker 2>you understand what's happening. Okay, So Jason Alexander is standing

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<v Speaker 2>in front of Courtney, who is wearing a bikini. She's

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<v Speaker 2>got really big boobs, They're big fake boobs, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to rub the phone on her boobs. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I have a special app here on my iPhone

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<v Speaker 4>and if I may, I'm going to use this to

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<v Speaker 4>just find out what's what's in the quality of your heart?

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<v Speaker 4>Not this side, not this side.

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<v Speaker 2>Courtney Stodden is calling out actor Jason Alexander one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well but we got we got the idea and

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<v Speaker 1>it was creepy and he sounded creepy even doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not saying that he's a pedophile or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, yeah, bad instinct.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to rub the phone basically sort of on

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<v Speaker 2>her crotch or her boobs, no, but her boobs. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he says, well, I'm getting better reception, Like the

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<v Speaker 2>joke is all about our boobs, right, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been done. It's not unheard of, but it's not ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminds me of like those really like eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't do that now.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem, though, the problem that you definitely wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that now is that she's seventeen when they made this,

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<v Speaker 2>and Doug, her husband slash owner, is sitting right next

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<v Speaker 2>to her in the sketch. He's in the sketch.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gross, Yeah, well she has been thinking about that

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<v Speaker 1>sketch Courtney Stotton, and she started thinking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>then came out with a thing publicly which we can

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<v Speaker 1>read where she's like, yeah, that was pretty fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>with Jason. I don't really care for what that sketch was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why this is coming out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, I was seventeen years old in this photo,

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<v Speaker 2>she wrote, sharing an image of Jason Alexander holding an

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<v Speaker 2>iPhone against her breast. So he was fifty two at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Okay, the actor, which I is, Jason Alexander,

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<v Speaker 2>is fifty two. He's wearing a polo and blazer while

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<v Speaker 2>she's in a skimpy bikini. She says. The older I get,

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<v Speaker 2>the more impossible this is to understand. She continued, recalling

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<v Speaker 2>how Alexander quote repeatedly rubbed his phone across my breast

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<v Speaker 2>while saying, there's quote no signal in my head, but

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of signal in my chest. She added later in

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<v Speaker 2>the sketch that he joked that when I turn eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd like to take me behind the couch and have

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all it's like all those countdown clucks, remember

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<v Speaker 1>Ashton Kutcher, The countdown sucks the with the Olsen Twins.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were starting those at like twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it says that Jason Alexander, who's now sixty six,

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<v Speaker 2>He is listed as a writer on the sketch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, weird, Okay, yeah, okay, so she said that, so so,

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<v Speaker 3>she says.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, as an adult, that fact has become harder,

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<v Speaker 2>not easier, for me to understand. I was a minor.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, I didn't have the legal power to decide

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<v Speaker 2>whether I wanted to participate. The contracts were signed by adults,

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<v Speaker 2>the paycheck went to Doug. She says, the production moved forward,

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<v Speaker 2>She says she doesn't see the sketches comedy. Looking back

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<v Speaker 2>I can't change what happened to me, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>ask myself, how did so many adults look at a

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<v Speaker 2>realizing the law should have protected them all along. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says this is a statement. To page six,

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<v Speaker 2>I see those experiences very differently than I did at

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<v Speaker 2>adults and positions of power are held to a higher standard.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that. I mean I don't. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>first before we get into.

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<v Speaker 1>All that, because there's a lot to go there, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>immediately apologized.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Alexander was like, I'm so start In fact, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>read I can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got it right here.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want, okay, you gonta ahead and read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says. He says, looking back at the comedy

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<v Speaker 2>sketch in which ms. Stauden and I participated in twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree it was inappropriate and I truly regret it.

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<v Speaker 2>But more importantly, I'm deeply sorry for any harm or

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<v Speaker 2>distress it has caused. Mis Stadden. I offer her my

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<v Speaker 2>sincerest apologies. So that's what he said. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel about that apology? I mean, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good apology. I think he owned it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, comedy changes, times have changed, she

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not saying it's fine now through even then.

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<v Speaker 1>I back then, I remember feeling less about I had

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting at sixteen marrying Doug.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be in jail, but I was also super creeped

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<v Speaker 1>out by her. And now, as you know older, I

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<v Speaker 1>can look back and go, well, maybe I shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been so creeped out, Like you know, she didn't know better,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was insufferable. I don't want to rewrite the history.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't change what she's doesn't change that what she

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<v Speaker 1>says is correct and important, and I agree with what

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<v Speaker 1>she's saying, but it also don't forget like we had

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<v Speaker 1>to go through like a full decade of her in

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<v Speaker 1>our like on our TVs and in our world, that

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<v Speaker 3>She seemed like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I shouldn't say she seemed like,

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<v Speaker 1>but her mom seemed like there was just nothing they

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<v Speaker 1>she was really really annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think she's right to say what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Jason, I don't know what else he

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<v Speaker 1>could do, But it turns out there is something else

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<v Speaker 1>he could do. Because she said the apology, she basically

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<v Speaker 1>came back and was like, Okay, great, thanks for the apology,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need you to do more.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to give to this nonprofit.

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<v Speaker 2>You yes, And I have to say my feelings have

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<v Speaker 2>changed since even we talked about doing this story, because

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<v Speaker 2>because we talked about Jason Alexander and how he's like

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<v Speaker 2>a known to be like a super nice guy right seemingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've met him, he was great, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't meet him at seventeen, and I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>him rub a cell phone on me. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I dream about that's how I get there fantasized.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's my saying. That's like, that's not everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge fan of, like the big fifty year

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<v Speaker 1>old with the twenty year old or and then younger especially,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just horrifying to me. I can't believe that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. Well, and when that's the problem is like

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear all this background, you hear the details,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, she yes, she was hyper sexualized, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying she didn't want to be married

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<v Speaker 1>or think she wanted to be married, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>a child, she was a young teenager. My twins are

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<v Speaker 1>two years older than she was at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>she married a gross old man who likes young girls

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<v Speaker 1>who found a fifteen year old after they ended. So

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<v Speaker 1>at that point he was in his sixties and he

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<v Speaker 1>was with a fifteen year old, Like, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted barely a pedophile Like it's I can't believe. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only and he continues to get jobs. Someone brought this up,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very interesting. This is on Reddit, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go to ahead of ourselves, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget the big fight between Courtney and Chrissy Chigan. You

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<v Speaker 1>might want to look that up because you remember that

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<v Speaker 1>whole shakedown of course. Yeah, oh my god, because someone's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>look up Chrissy Chigan's treatment of this child. People including

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<v Speaker 1>Chrissy told her to kill herself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I had forgotten about that. It says for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Her quote claim to fame was literally being a sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old married to an adult. Yeah, no, that I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that probably on board. Oh we have,

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<v Speaker 1>We've done an episode about it. No, Christy Tigan again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chrissy Teagan basically apologized completely. Okay, hold on, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think I believe this is in that shit was

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<v Speaker 2>crazy crazy. Yeah, So that's in this Wikipedia page okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In May twenty twenty one, Stutton said that Chrissy Teagan

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<v Speaker 2>tweeted and privately messaged her urging her to kill herself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she told her she should take a good dirt nap

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<v Speaker 2>because Chrissy Teagan went through a phase where she was crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>she was an alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it had happened. I don't think it was random.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying she was deserved, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>a random like they had been. She had said something

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<v Speaker 1>to her, they were having some kind of there was

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<v Speaker 1>an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Something had happened. She didn't just ran.

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<v Speaker 2>At Christy Tiagan says. She subsequently apologized to Stauden, saying

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<v Speaker 2>she was sad and mortified at her past self, whom

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<v Speaker 2>she described as quote an insecure, attention seeking troll. Stauden

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<v Speaker 2>accepted her apology but deemed it an attempt to save

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<v Speaker 2>Tiegan's business partnerships. A month later, Teagan released another apology

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<v Speaker 2>in a lengthy blog post, admitting to cyberbullying.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow yeah, I do wow yeah, and that I just

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<v Speaker 1>looked up caused it. Says she considered offering herself Courtney.

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<v Speaker 1>She says because of the cyberbullying from not only Christy

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<v Speaker 1>Teagan but other celebrities. So people are talking about that too,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure, I'm sure happened all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things too, that's in her wiki page

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<v Speaker 2>is that she was bullied really bad as a younger kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's started developing early, and she left school and was homeschooled.

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<v Speaker 2>So looking back, I guess I'm saying, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I probably was made fun of her too a

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<v Speaker 2>lot at the time, and she was seemed weird and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing all this stuff herself. But then when

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<v Speaker 2>you look back and you go, okay. So Jason Alexander,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in this sketch with the husband who's in who's

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Alexander's age? He knows this girl seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, he signs off, he writes a sketch

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<v Speaker 2>like I have to say, I'm calling like this whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing out, which is like, yeah, okay, times have changed,

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<v Speaker 2>but why were they that way then? Why would why

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<v Speaker 2>did anybody think that that's appropriate for a man to go? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I want to take you behind a couch

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<v Speaker 2>and fuck you.

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<v Speaker 3>What the what?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's when you know we talked about this the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. That's disgusting, But I I also was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little harder, and I'm I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm trying to take you. We try to take

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<v Speaker 1>each other down with our takes, but I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>tougher on Howard Stern than you are. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you feel because he is apologized, and I agree people

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<v Speaker 1>can get better and evolve, and I know he does

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good things too, as Jason does, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think, like I Howard Stern the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he treated women. Let's say they weren't even seventeen, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they probably were on that E show, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he treated them and talked about how fat they

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<v Speaker 1>were and made them turn around like they were like

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<v Speaker 1>livestock and talked about their butts. And Robin too, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm not giving her a pass either. They

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<v Speaker 1>were horrifying for years, I mean decades, and it's like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, whatever, But why was that allowed for so long?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like that's just the way it disgustingly was

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time when he had that show on E.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just remember it was like depressing

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I felt depressed, and well.

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<v Speaker 2>Many people are still like that. That's the whole MANI

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<v Speaker 2>sphere of it all. I mean, well, yeah, we're back

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tate. I mean he's yeah. I mean, people love

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tate. We had to seriously, we had to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that we like very much. We had to edit their

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<v Speaker 2>appearance on our episode because they were talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>great Andrew Tate is. It's like that we we still

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<v Speaker 2>normalize this stuff. And yeah, I mean I'm to blame too,

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<v Speaker 2>unless unless I'm confronted with something that Howard Stern did.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I can get swept up and going like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>it seems great now, right, But you're you're absolutely right

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<v Speaker 2>like this stuff, I mean, yeah, why was that okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>And just you know, I'm I will say, yes, at

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<v Speaker 2>least he's seen the light now. Howard Stern's not like

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<v Speaker 2>that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, And I don't think that Jason is known

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<v Speaker 1>for that kind of stuff too. Is just a really

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<v Speaker 1>bad choice that was probably made possible by the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that that's just what the environment was.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just what people did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, it doesn't make it okay, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's like, oh, yeah, this is just like we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep Remember how a lot of people started

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<v Speaker 1>finally getting canceled because of their old Twitter posts and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, no, no, no, we were all just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, we know it's terrible. That's the joke. That's that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then people had to kind of fight for their

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<v Speaker 1>lives on those and you know, we've talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>one after James Gunn was one that comes to mind,

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<v Speaker 1>say Kevin Hart, like they're like, well, we used to

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<v Speaker 1>always use words like this, this was two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's cool, but I'm sure if you

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<v Speaker 1>dug into both of our twitters there's probably something we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I would not tweet that now.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing like what they.

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<v Speaker 2>Want, I guess, but I do find it. I find

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<v Speaker 2>it unfortunate that some people do kind of get a pass,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're saying, but you know, people that you would

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<v Speaker 2>never expect that, you go, well, people change, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when Trevor Noah was going to become the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, host of the Daily Show, and people were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how much they love him, and you went

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<v Speaker 2>back in his tweet history and he was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how much he can't stand like fat chicks mak you

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<v Speaker 2>jokes about Oh yeah, she had a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah, yeah, and it's like, oh, well, I've

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sorry, it's like, okay, but you did say that,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's what you thought was funny, and now you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be like the super like political and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I don't know, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, listen, two things can be true, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what was complicated for me on this one. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's nothing complicated about the fact that it's really

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<v Speaker 1>gross what went down, and especially the mom marrying her

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<v Speaker 1>off and making her get like whatever she did, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting what is it, like a H double H cup

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you know, like just going and going and going.

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<v Speaker 1>But that can be true at the same time as

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<v Speaker 1>me just like really super annoyed by her.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are two totally separate things.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean, that's the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that pops in my head is how much I have

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<v Speaker 1>disliked her all these years. And you're right, maybe through

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<v Speaker 1>a different lens of like oh well, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>only seventeen, but I still really genuinely dislike her. But

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<v Speaker 1>I support what she's saying in this case, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I can stand in both spaces, as they say.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you, I just like her. Are

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<v Speaker 2>I get it? Are you standing ten toes down? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>On business?

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<v Speaker 3>On business? I would say, yeah, like, are you willing?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you willing to say you're standing on business?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say on I'm ten, I'm nine

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<v Speaker 1>toes down and on sort of a nonprofit not on

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<v Speaker 1>business business, but like a non profit business. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find, like, I just want to. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we've covered so he hasn't. I'm sure Jason will donate

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<v Speaker 1>if she's like yeah, I'm sure he'll be like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that makes sense, here's five thousand dollars or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he will. I hope he don't imagine. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you will, and I think that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do. Now, I want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing that she wants him, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure it's not her nonprofit.

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<v Speaker 2>Just that just no, she wants she wants to pass

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<v Speaker 2>this AB twelve sixty seven, which is a bipartisan bill

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<v Speaker 2>that would set the minimum age for marriage to eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>with no exceptions in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, rate absolutely support that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my because if it was going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he should also give to Courtney studdon

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and I'm going to use most of that

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<v Speaker 1>money to like just fight off all the ducks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just listen. And one of the ways that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fight it off is I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>buy some like really cute clothes and like maybe an

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<v Speaker 2>eighty U for my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, well, she's been talking about this stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, like a year ago, she went on a

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<v Speaker 1>show on Lifetime. I'm just gonna sound this up. I

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<v Speaker 1>should send it to you. Let me see what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know yet. It's her just talking.

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<v Speaker 5>Courtney Stadden, a sixteen year old bride who married a

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<v Speaker 5>fifty one year old actor. Maybe you remember the ridicule,

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<v Speaker 5>the outrage late nine chokes, But what you think you

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<v Speaker 5>know is that's what some of the media painted me

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<v Speaker 5>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The true story.

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<v Speaker 5>The real story is so much more complicated and much worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so that's like the beginning of some things she

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<v Speaker 3>was doing for lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well there's a movie. There's a movie about her.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's called like Courtney. Oh, like a documentary. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>did we see that? We should probably watch that. We

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<v Speaker 2>should have watched that beforehand. This is from twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a show eleven episodes of a show called Courtney.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's like her own show. But the no, there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a lifetime it's like a lifetime type movie

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<v Speaker 2>about her, about what happened. It might be on let's see.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let's yeah, I think this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she was just introducing Yes, yes, because that is this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fake thing. They sure do Muchison looked better. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a child bride the Courtney Staddon story. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm going to watch that. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>that immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to. It's from last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Because why don't you set it on OZ Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you set this on pause. We'll go watch it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back, just watch like an hour and a half. No,

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<v Speaker 1>in conclusion, we support what she's saying. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's cool that Jason apologized. I think he'll probably donate.

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<v Speaker 1>And because to be clear, he's himself, isn't like some

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<v Speaker 1>creepy pedophile. But yeah, bad judgment to say the least

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<v Speaker 1>on that, and fuck the Doug Hutchinson and fuck the mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that's what we can definitely stand ten

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<v Speaker 2>toes down, ten toes, not just nine on fuck her

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<v Speaker 2>mom and fuck uh Hutchinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Doug, Yeah, and all right, well I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>covered that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, thanks for listening you guys. You guys are

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<v Speaker 2>the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and if by the time you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are recording a couple days early, Jason may

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<v Speaker 1>have already donated.

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<v Speaker 3>So just like insert Jason donates something here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. Pe think