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Speaker 2: So during the break I was reading this write up
Speaker 2: from Ari Wasserman, who is now writing for on three Sports,
Speaker 2: and he made a good point. Marcus Freeman, of course,
Speaker 2: has gotten off to a great start at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Really the breakthrough year was this year, and Notre Dame
Speaker 2: is going to play for a national championship and he's
Speaker 2: done phenomenal job. He's he's certainly looking like a future
Speaker 2: star of college football. But Wasserman's column made another good
Speaker 2: point something that he has done that is even harder
Speaker 2: than winning, and that is making Notre Dame likable, which
Speaker 2: I don't think of Notre Dame as being hateable, but
Speaker 2: I think the way I've described it on the show
Speaker 2: is Notre Dame is the team, one of the teams.
Speaker 2: I guess there's a lot of teams out there pro
Speaker 2: in college that if you're not a fan of them,
Speaker 2: then you probably lean towards not liking them or you know,
Speaker 2: hating them. And I've never necessarily been on the hate side,
Speaker 2: but I'm far from a guy that likes them, and
Speaker 2: I think Marcus Breeman has been so likable and weird
Speaker 2: that Notre Dame's here of all. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: a program that does not need the millions of dollars
Speaker 2: from a conference in order to keep the lights on.
Speaker 2: They can do everything independently because they have such a
Speaker 2: national fan base. They've got their deal with NBC. I mean,
Speaker 2: when Notre Dame is accused of being arrogant, let's be honest,
Speaker 2: they have a right to be. Now, as far as
Speaker 2: accomplishments recently, not so much. But I mean Notre Dame
Speaker 2: is different than any other college football program. There's no comparison.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're Notre Dame, but yet they're kind of
Speaker 2: like Rudy Nope. I mean I was gonna say, pardon
Speaker 2: the pun. I didn't even really mean to make that pun.
Speaker 2: But they're They're a team that nobody believed in They
Speaker 2: had the NIU loss, and they've played their way up
Speaker 2: to this point proving that despite that, they are one
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the country. So because they're
Speaker 2: not liked, nobody thought they were legit and in the
Speaker 2: in previous years, they've they've proven those well. I don't
Speaker 2: think they've proven them right. In fact, they haven't proven
Speaker 2: them right because I think Notre Dame under Brian Kelly,
Speaker 2: whenever they would get to the playoff or they'd get
Speaker 2: the championship game and get blown out, every other team
Speaker 2: that that was in that spot probably would have gotten
Speaker 2: blown out as well. Like Notre Dame losing in the
Speaker 2: in the in the four team playoff, or in the
Speaker 2: championship game never proved they didn't blong. It just meant
Speaker 2: that they weren't as good as the team that won
Speaker 2: the national championship. But they're always the team that gets
Speaker 2: mentioned for having, you know, a week schedule, that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So long story short, it's just wild that
Speaker 2: Notre Dame it can play the underdog rule, can play
Speaker 2: the chip on the shoulder, and it is kind of weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pulling for him against Ohio State. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to win. In fact, I
Speaker 2: doubt they will, but I didn't think they'd get past
Speaker 2: Georgia and here they are. Didn't know if they'd get passed.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I did have more confidence they'd
Speaker 2: get past Penn State, because if you can beat Georgia,
Speaker 2: you can beat Penn State. So anyways, I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to that National Championship game next Monday night. All right,
Speaker 2: it's Coffee and Company Hour number two here on a
Speaker 2: game day Game Day edition, of course. Louisville and Action
Speaker 2: tonight against Syracuse, currently favored by eight points, that has
Speaker 2: been climbing throughout the day. We'll see if it moves
Speaker 2: much more before we get to tip off. Kentucky, they're
Speaker 2: hosting Texas A and M. The Cats are seven point favorites,
Speaker 2: and Texas A and M is going to be without
Speaker 2: their leading scorer and their leading distributor and Wade Taylor,
Speaker 2: who is out once again with a knee injury. I
Speaker 2: think he's missed the last few games for him. And
Speaker 2: this guy's been there at A and M for a
Speaker 2: long time and he's been pretty damn good ever since
Speaker 2: he's been there. So this is clearly a good thing
Speaker 2: for Kentucky. I mean, it makes Texas A and M
Speaker 2: more beatable. And I don't say that to try to
Speaker 2: discredit a win before it happens, but when you are
Speaker 2: in the SEC and you play that kind of schedule
Speaker 2: that they have in league play, You'll take whatever you
Speaker 2: can get, and this is a break that goes your way,
Speaker 2: and again it makes A and M a little bit
Speaker 2: more beatable. So seven is the number there. I'm curious
Speaker 2: if that I didn't see the opening line. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that move. That number moved because of the
Speaker 2: confirmation that Taylor wasn't going to play, but it is
Speaker 2: now official that he's out. Indiana is also in a
Speaker 2: big game tonight. They've got Illinois at home, and Illinois
Speaker 2: good team, clearly in a better position than Indiana. Illinois
Speaker 2: favored by four, and I feel like this is the
Speaker 2: kind of game for because Indiana right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're coming off of let's see here. And the reason
Speaker 2: I'm bringing up Indiana one one because they're kind of
Speaker 2: a local team, but also for Louisville's sake, Indiana needs
Speaker 2: to be in the top fifty for that to be
Speaker 2: a quot one win, and I believe they're there now,
Speaker 2: But I think tonight, like what happens if they get
Speaker 2: blown out, I wouldn't be shocked if this season ends
Speaker 2: up just steadily heading south for Mike Woodson. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: an overreaction because I mean, they're playing a good team,
Speaker 2: they're underdogs at home, so they'll play other Big Ten
Speaker 2: teams that they should beat. But like a win here
Speaker 2: would really improve Indiana's resume, and it I think would
Speaker 2: give them some real life to be in that top
Speaker 2: tier of the Big Ten, because the Big Ten this year,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I think it's down.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think right now you've got Michigan State
Speaker 2: and Michigan that are ahead of everybody else. And in fact,
Speaker 2: those two teams are five and zero, produce five and
Speaker 2: one and they're always going to be good. But this
Speaker 2: is not produced not a threat like they have been
Speaker 2: in previous years. Oregon is four and two, Indiana is
Speaker 2: also four and two, and Illinois four and two, so
Speaker 2: like after that, Wisconsin has shown some flashes this year,
Speaker 2: but once you get past that, I'm I'm not really
Speaker 2: sure who I would consider to be, you know, really
Speaker 2: good in the Big Ten. I mean, certainly they've got
Speaker 2: some mean, they've got programs that you know on INDI
Speaker 2: given night, if they play well, they could pull off
Speaker 2: an upset. But if Indiana can beat to Illinois and
Speaker 2: I to move to four and to move to five
Speaker 2: and two and then of course jump above Illinois. I
Speaker 2: mean that would that would make the rest of the
Speaker 2: schedule for Indiana, the rest of the way and Big
Speaker 2: Ten play look a little bit more. I mean, if anything,
Speaker 2: I just confirm that you can beat some of the
Speaker 2: better teams in your league's Indiana. I mean, when Louisville
Speaker 2: blew them off the floor, they turned around the next
Speaker 2: day and then lost Againstzaga. They ended up leaving the
Speaker 2: Bahamas with one win, and that was against Providence. And
Speaker 2: then they've beat the teams they're supposed to beat. But
Speaker 2: they did lose at Nebraska, and Nebraska is a loss
Speaker 2: that isn't necessarily terrible, but it's it's also you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, Nebraska's not a great team. So after that
Speaker 2: then they went on a little bit of a tear.
Speaker 2: They won five in a row. They beat Chattanooga and Winthrop,
Speaker 2: which are games that don't do much for you, but
Speaker 2: then be ruggers. They won at Penn State and then
Speaker 2: they beat usc but then they turned around and got
Speaker 2: blown out by Iowa over the weekend. So they've they've
Speaker 2: continued to I mean, I can't even really think of
Speaker 2: which game. Indiana right now has beat every team that
Speaker 2: they are supposed to be other than Louisll because they
Speaker 2: weren't supposed to win that one.
Speaker 3: And then their losses. You know.
Speaker 2: Their losses right now, Louisville, Gonzaga, Iowa, and Nebraska. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't mean all those teams are technically going to
Speaker 2: be well.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe Iowa is in a tournament team. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, but I want to tonight. I feel like
Speaker 2: is a game where Indiana's season is going to go
Speaker 2: in one of two directions. And I'm not a Hoosiers
Speaker 2: fan by any means, but again, for Louisville's resume, if
Speaker 2: Indiana falls apart, that would not be ideal. All right,
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Speaker 2: When do you think Josh Hurd pulls the trigger and
Speaker 2: offers her a new contract? Could it be before the
Speaker 2: season comes to an end. I have no clue I
Speaker 2: would imagine that Pat right now is certainly working his
Speaker 2: way to a new contract that would make him you
Speaker 2: know more, you know, making more money than he currently is.
Speaker 2: But but now that you got me thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you asked, because I haven't really given.
Speaker 3: This much thought.
Speaker 2: I've just assumed that clearly, if Pat Kelsey keeps winning,
Speaker 2: and his representation as agent lets Louisville know that he
Speaker 2: would like to be here even you know, more long
Speaker 2: term than his contract indicates, and he will have interest elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Like clearly, I think Louisville would do whatever they have
Speaker 2: to do to keep their basketball coach who's winning. And
Speaker 2: we've never been in a position where we I mean,
Speaker 2: keep in mind Denny Crumb, then Rick Patino and then
Speaker 2: after that, there was never a situation with anybody post
Speaker 2: Patino that you had to like go back to the
Speaker 2: table and give them a new deal because they've they've
Speaker 2: changed the you know, the situation. So I don't think
Speaker 2: we're going to see that happen if Pat Kelsey ends
Speaker 2: up becoming an even bigger name than he already is.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to say what I'm about to
Speaker 2: say and have people thinking that, like I don't believe
Speaker 2: that he's going to be here long term, or that
Speaker 2: I don't believe that he's worthy of it. But like,
Speaker 2: extensions for coaches are always just kind of out of nowhere, unless,
Speaker 2: of course, you get to the end of the season
Speaker 2: and somebody's clearly made it to where you better give
Speaker 2: them a new deal or they're leaving. So like when
Speaker 2: it happens mid season, it's just not something that's on
Speaker 2: the minds of anybody. But we've changed a lot with
Speaker 2: college athletics in recent years, and there's a huge change
Speaker 2: coming next year of course, when the schools are going
Speaker 2: to be responsible for sharing revenue of twenty two million
Speaker 2: dollars with student athletes. So you're not making the same
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're factoring in much different things now
Speaker 2: than you used to when it comes to the the
Speaker 2: kind of decisions right contracts for coaches, the amount of
Speaker 2: money you're gonna spend, the amount of money you're going
Speaker 2: to guarantee, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So I would be shocked.
Speaker 2: If we hear of a new deal for Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: before the season comes to an end. So that's my
Speaker 2: answer to your question. But I also don't really know
Speaker 2: that we should just expect. I mean, look, it's January fourteenth,
Speaker 2: so I mean, if they end up kind of finishing
Speaker 2: underwhelming compared to what they've done now as far as
Speaker 2: leveling up expectations, then maybe it's a maybe it's a
Speaker 2: different kind of conversation we're having. But let's just say
Speaker 2: they do stay hot and they end up finishing with
Speaker 2: like a sixteen and four record in in the ACC.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they go sixteen and four in the ACC,
Speaker 2: what would that make them twenty four and nine or
Speaker 2: something like that. So and then let's say they like,
Speaker 2: let me just give you a scenario. Let's say they
Speaker 2: finished the season twenty three and nine, sixteen and four
Speaker 2: in the ACC. They win, they make it all the
Speaker 2: way to the to the championship game of the ACC tournament,
Speaker 2: and they lose to Duke. So now they've earned a
Speaker 2: five seed, and then as a five seed they end
Speaker 2: up making it to the sweet sixteen and lose in
Speaker 2: the round of sixteen. Let's just say that plays out, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, that gets me excited because that's not
Speaker 2: a given. But like, that's also not at all crazy
Speaker 2: if you think about it, like, that's not a scenario
Speaker 2: that is unrealistic. Now, maybe they don't get up to
Speaker 2: a five, but.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you end up getting to the a SEC championship game,
Speaker 2: you've probably beat one of the good teams or decent
Speaker 2: teams in the league. So let's just say that plays
Speaker 2: out that exact way. I would imagine that he would
Speaker 2: get a contract extension and that Louisville would would understand, hey,
Speaker 2: not only have you earned more money than what we're
Speaker 2: paying you, because that job has paid a lot more
Speaker 2: money for a long time than what Pat is currently
Speaker 2: making right now. So that's a scenario where I could see,
Speaker 2: you know, no surprise that they announced a new deal
Speaker 2: for him as soon as the season ends. But then again,
Speaker 2: like if they don't, maybe it shouldn't. Maybe it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be that big of a surprise, because again, you got
Speaker 2: to be a little more mind in fact, you have
Speaker 2: to be more mindful of spending within your athletic department
Speaker 2: than you've ever been because again, right now, you're you're
Speaker 2: you're not paying any of the money currently for these
Speaker 2: guys you know that are uh, you know, making big
Speaker 2: time bucks from nil, you're gonna have to start paying
Speaker 2: twenty two million out annually. And again that's for every ad,
Speaker 2: that's for every student athlete. And how they divide it's
Speaker 2: going to be different depending upon what each school wants
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: But you just you can't. You can't make.
Speaker 2: Decisions factoring the factoring in the same things today as
Speaker 2: you did five six years ago, because again, it's way
Speaker 2: different now. So I think Pat Kelsey, if he wants
Speaker 2: to be here, Louisville will will. We'll always be able
Speaker 2: to make that happen. But to answer your question as
Speaker 2: far as like win a contract extension would happen, I
Speaker 2: think it's a little tough. It's always been kind of
Speaker 2: tough to know, but with the new world that we're in,
Speaker 2: it makes it even a little more difficult to know
Speaker 2: if in fact, like that's even on the minds of
Speaker 2: I mean, what it comes down to is the agent
Speaker 2: pushing the issue. I would imagine maybe Louisville at the
Speaker 2: end of the season doesn't even need the agent to
Speaker 2: do that. They just know, hey, got it, we want
Speaker 2: to get this guy locked in. Even more so because
Speaker 2: we realize because here's what happened Louisville. If the scenario
Speaker 2: that I put out there ends up playing out wishful thinking,
Speaker 2: of course, but if it does, it's going to be
Speaker 2: I think a storyline in college basketball that Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: in his first year was able to revive Louisville from
Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in Power Basketball to a
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen team Like that alone would be a storyline.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't probably be the lead storyline of the college
Speaker 2: basketball season, but it would certainly be in there, and
Speaker 2: it would be mostly about him, about how he has
Speaker 2: taken this opportunity, so he would have momentum. But has
Speaker 2: anybody ever tried to hire Louisville's coach other than Denny?
Speaker 2: Of course, whenever he turned down UCLA, Like when Denny
Speaker 2: turned down UCLA, did any other school even consider picking
Speaker 2: up the phone and trying to get him? Because you know,
Speaker 2: if he's going to stay at Louisville and not go
Speaker 2: back to UCLA for John Wooden, then we got no.
Speaker 3: Chance of getting him.
Speaker 2: And then with Rick, there were a couple of like,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll go ask Terry Miners because he would know.
Speaker 2: But when Rick was here, there were there were two
Speaker 2: occasions that I remember or his name came up, and
Speaker 2: I feel like it was one of those he wanted
Speaker 2: it to be out there. He had no interest in leaving,
Speaker 2: but it was kind of like he wanted to remind
Speaker 2: us that we should appreciate him as our coach. I
Speaker 2: think one of them was Saint John's when that opened up.
Speaker 2: I don't remember when it did or how it did,
Speaker 2: but like he clearly has a connection in New York,
Speaker 2: and now he's at Saint John's. And then I believe
Speaker 2: one time the UNLV job opened and there was some
Speaker 2: kind of the Internet was a different world back then
Speaker 2: I was young. So maybe we're in I mean, if
Speaker 2: if Pat Kelsey finishes strong and again that scenario that
Speaker 2: I laid out ends up happening, and there are other
Speaker 2: big jobs open up, Like I don't know which ones
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of here, but like I don't know, let's say, gosh,
Speaker 2: I can't even really thin because because if you are
Speaker 2: and this is the overall point I'm getting at, regardless
Speaker 2: of what the job is, if it's a big job
Speaker 2: or not, Like Louis has always been a program and
Speaker 2: I get it. I get and I just laid out
Speaker 2: sort of the timeline to where you don't think you're
Speaker 2: gonna go get your coach from Louisville because you know
Speaker 2: that coach is at Louisville. So I would imagine that
Speaker 2: that will stay the same. But again, right now, and
Speaker 2: I'll look at the numbers during the break, Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: does not make a whole lot of money compared to
Speaker 2: any other Louisville coach in the last like twenty years,
Speaker 2: and you know, I guess that was a factor. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was a factor and why
Speaker 2: they hired him, but either way, it's been beneficial for
Speaker 2: Louisville at this point. But if he finishes strong, I
Speaker 2: would hope that they have a contrary act ready for
Speaker 2: him to review and sign, or at least negotiate as
Speaker 2: soon as possible, because you know, you need to do
Speaker 2: that because he'll he'll have an offer elsewhere if in fact,
Speaker 2: you know, and again it's just I can't even process
Speaker 2: that scenario happening Louisville losing a basketball coach because they
Speaker 2: didn't they wouldn't pay like that. Just that's a scenario
Speaker 2: that I never see happening. So again, if Pat wants
Speaker 2: to be here and he has success, he'll be here
Speaker 2: for a long long time in Louisville. Won't be in
Speaker 2: a position where they're at where they will ever lose
Speaker 2: their coach because they weren't willing to invest and they
Speaker 2: weren't able to pay. All right, quick break, we'll come
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Speaker 2: sure you guys have seen the video by now. It's everywhere.
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Speaker 2: thanks for hanging out with us Game Day Louisville and
Speaker 2: Syracuse tonight seven o'clock. I haven't talked about it on
Speaker 2: the show in a few weeks, but I keep getting
Speaker 2: asked about it on Twitter and on the text line.
Speaker 2: So I'll just remind you, or I guess I just
Speaker 2: I mean, you're aware we're not doing postgame shows. If
Speaker 2: you were looking for them because they don't exist. We've
Speaker 2: not done basketball postgame shows for a while now, and
Speaker 2: we have no plans of doing them that I don't
Speaker 2: know of. I mean, maybe there'll be an exception, if
Speaker 2: you know, postseason stuff. I don't know, but right now,
Speaker 2: we just don't have the resources here to do it.
Speaker 2: So there's not a lot I can add to that.
Speaker 2: But for those asking where the postgame show is and
Speaker 2: why it went away, it's gone, and I'm sure we'll
Speaker 2: be back able to do it at some point. I
Speaker 2: just know right now we're not, and when that changes,
Speaker 2: I'll be sure to let you know. And it's been
Speaker 2: nice to know that people did a pre sha at
Speaker 2: the basketball postgame show and that they miss it, and
Speaker 2: it is It is awesome, you know, to be able
Speaker 2: to react to Louisville basketball in a good way like
Speaker 2: we're doing this season, And it would have been fun
Speaker 2: to do some postgame shows. But i'd be a liar,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to lie to you, want to
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I'd be a liar if I
Speaker 2: told you that I haven't at times enjoyed like being
Speaker 2: able to go to games. I mean, I can go
Speaker 2: to games and that's you know, I don't take that.
Speaker 2: I try not to take that for granted. But when
Speaker 2: I go to games that I'm doing a postgame show,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's not a I mean, it's it's different.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's not as good of an experience,
Speaker 2: and and I don't know if I mean that, but
Speaker 2: like it's it's it's it's a lot more work. You know,
Speaker 2: I've got to make sure I can get out at
Speaker 2: a certain time to be able to be situated to
Speaker 2: do the show live as soon as the game ends.
Speaker 2: And and look, that's that's a good thing. Like that's
Speaker 2: great that we were able to do that, and when
Speaker 2: we do get back to doing post game shows, that'll
Speaker 2: continue to be the case. But I'm just saying when
Speaker 2: I go to games when I have to do postgame, like,
Speaker 2: I can't stay for the whole game, and I gotta
Speaker 2: I gotta make some adjustment and I may miss some
Speaker 2: of the game, which is not ideal. So now that
Speaker 2: I've been able to go to some of the games
Speaker 2: and actually get tickets rather than using my credential and
Speaker 2: sit with my family and watch with my son, like again,
Speaker 2: i'd be a liar if I said I haven't been
Speaker 2: able to enjoy that, But I do know that eventually
Speaker 2: I won't be able to do that because it'll be
Speaker 2: back to work. It'll be back to doing the postgame
Speaker 2: shows whenever that may be so. And as long as
Speaker 2: I can continue to, you know, take advantage of the
Speaker 2: time off and enjoy it, then I'm going to Now
Speaker 2: when I'm at home and they're on the road, or
Speaker 2: and I'm not, I'm not there and there's nothing going on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, damn, I wish. I wish I could
Speaker 2: fire up the equipment and react good or bad. And
Speaker 2: for the most part it's been good. But when I
Speaker 2: have a chance to go, like I wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: able to do the Pittsburgh trip. I mean, I could
Speaker 2: have taken taken the day off and had somebody fill in,
Speaker 2: but that's we don't even have. We don't have enough
Speaker 2: resources to get it to get the show on air.
Speaker 2: So if I if we were doing it and then
Speaker 2: I wasn't here, I don't know who they would have
Speaker 2: fill in. But anyways, it'll be back at some point.
Speaker 2: I just I just don't know when. We still obviously
Speaker 2: talked a whole lot about Louisville hoops. I mean, we
Speaker 2: really have turned in a good chunk of the next
Speaker 2: show after a game, kind of into a basketball post
Speaker 2: game show a little bit. So anyways, all right, five
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Speaker 3: This tex says Nick.
Speaker 2: Have you checked in on all the former players that
Speaker 2: have left Louisville that played for Kenny Paine? Is there
Speaker 2: one guy you wish was still here? I haven't thought
Speaker 2: about that in a long long time. I remember once
Speaker 2: they had some injuries, I thought, okay, man, it would
Speaker 2: have been would have been something if you could keep
Speaker 2: Brandon Huntley Hatfield or even JJ trainor who would have
Speaker 2: at least given you some size. But really, since this team,
Speaker 2: I mean even after they got injured and then you
Speaker 2: saw this team really missing certain components early on, especially
Speaker 2: with Cason, I mean you knew there was I mean,
Speaker 2: you can't get them back anyway. So, like I to
Speaker 2: answer your question, I haven't thought about it, So I
Speaker 2: really can't give you much of an answer, and I
Speaker 2: haven't checked in on what those guys were doing. I'd
Speaker 2: be shocked if there's I'd be really shocked if there
Speaker 2: was one player for Louisville from last year that like,
Speaker 2: is having a really good year statistically at any level.
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong. I know sky Clark was
Speaker 2: doing decent for for Olemit or for UCLA, but I don't,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. Yes, well, actually no, I
Speaker 2: mean I guess he's had some good games. But man,
Speaker 2: since they got into conference play, yes, so Skytt Clark's
Speaker 2: averaging six points and two assists and two rebounds at UCLA.
Speaker 2: I mean, Louisville upgraded in a major way with with
Speaker 2: Chucky Hepburn and and really the backcourt in general. That's
Speaker 2: not a shot at Skyt Clark. It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: That's why I don't I don't think there's anybody right
Speaker 2: now that that, like I wish was still here.
Speaker 3: Could they utilize.
Speaker 2: One of these guys, you know, as far as depth
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, Yeah, Brandon Hilly Hadfield's averaging nine
Speaker 2: points and five boards playing twenty one and a half
Speaker 2: minutes a game for NC State.
Speaker 3: I mean he might give you again some more depth
Speaker 3: and better imp protection, but I haven't.
Speaker 2: In fact, this text reminds me that like I haven't,
Speaker 2: even like they've been able to make you forget that
Speaker 2: they're dealing with real injury issues. And it actually the
Speaker 2: reminder for me. And it's not like you know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter at all, but like they've been able to
Speaker 2: show that one they can still play well without prior
Speaker 2: in Corin Johnson, and we didn't know how good they
Speaker 2: could be, but this point they've they've exceeded my expectations
Speaker 2: as far as how good of a team they can
Speaker 2: be without Casein. But when I see those out there
Speaker 2: acknowledging how good Pat Kelsey's doing this year getting Louisville
Speaker 2: back in the mix back to their winning way, not
Speaker 2: only is it impressive because they've been terrible and he
Speaker 2: build a team from scratch, but he's doing it without
Speaker 2: case In Pryor. Like I think it was two of
Speaker 2: the national guys that cover the sport. One of them
Speaker 2: might have been Rosting, the other might have been our
Speaker 2: man Kevin Sweeney from Sports Illustrated, But they acknowledged that
Speaker 2: that's another factor in how pack kell S's in a
Speaker 2: good position to maybe be national coach of the year.
Speaker 2: And again, I just they've played so well in the
Speaker 2: last six seven games that I haven't even thought about
Speaker 2: any of the injuries or I haven't thought about any
Speaker 2: anybody that I wish was still on this team. But
Speaker 2: now you got me be curious. So I mentioned Scott
Speaker 2: Clark and Brandon hilly Hatfield, Mike James, he's having a
Speaker 2: good year for Kevin keats good for him. I did
Speaker 2: not realize that, Yeah, James is having a fine season
Speaker 2: twelve points, six points, five boards. I mean I don't
Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here wishing he was still on the team,
Speaker 2: but he's having a better year there than I'd realized.
Speaker 2: Trey White averaging eleven points at Illinois, They're having a
Speaker 2: good season. So I will say this, Trey White and
Speaker 2: Mike Games their production, that those are you know, I said,
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if I look and see if any
Speaker 2: of these guys are having any you know, real individual
Speaker 2: success producing. And I was wrong, because both Sky Clark
Speaker 2: and Trey White are having better years than I would
Speaker 2: have expected. And clearly I wasn't aware that they're and
Speaker 2: and Trey White's on a good team too. By the way,
Speaker 2: the one guy that I thought would be really successful elsewhere,
Speaker 2: just because I thought he was a really, really talented player.
Speaker 3: So far, I was wrong.
Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson is not having much of a I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's Tyler Johnson is averaging four point four points and
Speaker 2: one and a half rebounds and to assist the game
Speaker 2: for wake Forest and he's playing seventeen minutes a game now.
Speaker 2: He is behind some really good guards, so maybe that's
Speaker 2: a factor. Obviously, Hunter Sallas and Cam hill Dress. I mean,
Speaker 2: those guys are are pretty good, so they're doing the
Speaker 2: you know, those two guys specifically are the leading scorers
Speaker 2: for wake Forest, so maybe that's a factor. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought Tyler would have a lot of success post Louisville,
Speaker 2: but that.
Speaker 3: That's not been the case. All right.
Speaker 2: So obviously we've talked a lot of college hoops today,
Speaker 2: and when it comes to football, it's been the College
Speaker 2: Football National Championship matchup and a little bit about the
Speaker 2: NFL playoffs. That's that's kind of where we've been this afternoon.
Speaker 2: But Louisville football got another Let's see, let me make
Speaker 2: sure I've got this correct, because this is a this
Speaker 2: is this is an accolade and honor that I don't
Speaker 2: think Louisville has ever had before from a player, and
Speaker 2: that is what the hell is it? Here we go,
Speaker 2: Isaac Brown was named a Football Football Writers Association Freshman
Speaker 2: All American.
Speaker 3: So let's see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this says he's the twelfth freshman to earned first
Speaker 2: team All American accolades in school history. And look, I
Speaker 2: don't need to run through his numbers, his stats, because
Speaker 2: you know, you guys, you guys were you guys were
Speaker 2: well aware of how good he was. But it's nice
Speaker 2: to see these these things keep trickling in because next year,
Speaker 2: this offense should be I mean, the offense could be
Speaker 2: better than it was a year ago. Should be better
Speaker 2: than it was a year ago, which is crazy to say,
Speaker 2: considering that they were pretty damn good offensively this season.
Speaker 2: And I hate doing it, but I'll be honest. I'll
Speaker 2: be transparent with you whenever I Whenever I think about
Speaker 2: next season and I get real excited about Jeff brom
Speaker 2: maybe lighting up scoreboards, I instantly have a little bit
Speaker 2: of fear of, uh, oh, well, maybe that won't be
Speaker 2: good enough because defensively, I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 2: I don't want to make it a whole thing throughout
Speaker 2: the entire offseason here when it comes to Louisville football,
Speaker 2: because I think it's clear they've got some real momentum
Speaker 2: two years in when it comes to when it comes
Speaker 2: to to Jef brom and they should be good next year.
Speaker 2: And you know, I want positive energy, positive momentum. You
Speaker 2: know that'll get people excited, and people should be excited
Speaker 2: about Loisll football. So I'm gonna try not to bring
Speaker 2: it up like any time we talk louis Of football
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty five season, but it's it's a
Speaker 2: real thing for me. I don't think Ron English is
Speaker 2: the worst guy ever. There's no guarantee that you could
Speaker 2: go hire somebody and he wouldn't be worse. I just
Speaker 2: think two years in, from what I can see, you've
Speaker 2: got a guy that isn't great as your DC and
Speaker 2: at times when the defense has struggled. To me, it
Speaker 2: seems pretty obvious that the bulk of that issue, the
Speaker 2: bigger factor was the defensive strategy, the defensive coaching, than
Speaker 2: it was players. Players always are going to be accountable. One.
Speaker 2: You may have guys that just simply aren't as talented
Speaker 2: as you need to be against certain teams, you may
Speaker 2: have guys that just have bad games or you just
Speaker 2: know that they're not given the right effort. Like players
Speaker 2: are always held accountable. But I just think when I
Speaker 2: saw Louisville's defense fall apart in Jeff's first and when
Speaker 2: I saw the issues they had at times this year,
Speaker 2: I thought it was way more to do with who's
Speaker 2: leading the defense than who's out there on the field.
Speaker 2: And when you know that, and you were vulnerable this
Speaker 2: year at times where man, you were really good. Good
Speaker 2: season nine and four. I mean, it wasn't elite, but
Speaker 2: it's a good season, but it's not all on the defense.
Speaker 2: Clearly they did a good job and helped you get
Speaker 2: to nine wins, but they also were a liability at times.
Speaker 2: I mean they spotted SMU fourteen points in that game.
Speaker 2: I mean against Stanford. Everybody deserves to blame for that
Speaker 2: whole disaster, but I would say the defense probably deserves
Speaker 2: it more than any So when you know that, and
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think there's a scenario that if
Speaker 2: you move on from Ron English that like he goes
Speaker 2: on and has a great success elsewhere, and you feel like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't believe we let that guy go, Like, I
Speaker 2: just feel like there's really no big risk in making
Speaker 2: a move and I would just look. I said it
Speaker 2: on the post game show when they beat Washington and
Speaker 2: El Paso. If next year you're in the same spot
Speaker 2: and we're taking calls and everybody's bitching about Ron English
Speaker 2: for good reason and they had a forty two point
Speaker 2: outing or a thirty five point outing from the offense
Speaker 2: and that still wasn't enough, I imagine at that point they'll
Speaker 2: be They'll they'll be more angry fans, myself included when
Speaker 2: it comes to the defense in Ron English. But we've
Speaker 2: already known that two years in, so like the decision
Speaker 2: to bring Ron English back, and if we're in the
Speaker 2: same boat at times and it cost you games, I
Speaker 2: mean all the energy in regards to.
Speaker 3: The frustration, it'll it.
Speaker 2: I think we'll be shifted at Brahm and not Ron English,
Speaker 2: Like Ron English just kind of told us who he is.
Speaker 2: And again, I even talking about it makes it sound
Speaker 2: like I think he's the worst ever. I just I
Speaker 2: kind of think we know what we have there, and
Speaker 2: I think it should have been better than it was
Speaker 2: for the majority of the first two seasons and when
Speaker 2: you know that, like I think it's it's it's a
Speaker 2: risk to continue to do it and not expect it
Speaker 2: to potentially bite you. And what's unfair is that next year,
Speaker 2: like the defense, you know, the defense could be you know,
Speaker 2: could be good at times or maybe you know, maybe
Speaker 2: we think they're really good because of a light schedule
Speaker 2: early on, but then they get you know, then they
Speaker 2: end up getting into games against legitimate competition, and like,
Speaker 2: I just think they're Ron English in his first two
Speaker 2: seasons at this point, and Jeff can't make his decision
Speaker 2: based off of what fans think. He's got to make
Speaker 2: the decision that he thinks his best. That's his job,
Speaker 2: and he'll do that. But I mean, I just I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that if next year your defense is a
Speaker 2: liability to an extent that it impacts how you view
Speaker 2: your ceiling. Right the defense, because the offense should be
Speaker 2: good enough to where the defense doesn't have to be great.
Speaker 2: But if they put you in position where they are,
Speaker 2: you know, they have these big chunk plays they give up,
Speaker 2: they've got miscommunication, too many men on the field, silly
Speaker 2: penalty like hitting somebody when they're out of bounds. That's
Speaker 2: what gave Stanford the chance to beat you? Like those things.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Jeff wouldn't blame himself because those
Speaker 2: things have happened and it's already cost you to an extent.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to ninety five percent of the time
Speaker 2: talk about how excited and positive I am about next
Speaker 2: year because I think they've got a chance to once
Speaker 2: again be really good.
Speaker 3: And who knows.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's twelve teams that get into the playoff now,
Speaker 2: I mean Louisville this year, despite some frustrating losses and
Speaker 2: some head scratching things that played out, they were technically
Speaker 2: in it until they lost to Stanford. So I'm excited,
Speaker 2: but I'd be a liar if I didn't at least
Speaker 2: acknowledge that I have some fear that we could get
Speaker 2: We could be in the same boat where everybody's just thinking. Man,
Speaker 2: just imagine if this defense was a little more reliable.
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Speaker 2: on Sports Talk seven ninety. As we wrap up the
Speaker 2: four o'clock hour, I'm looking here at a ton of
Speaker 2: college basketball games to bet on, which, of course you know,
Speaker 2: is exciting. However, I, you know, I get a little
Speaker 2: overwhelmed when we have so many games. I end up
Speaker 2: just randomly, I just don't do as much homework, and
Speaker 2: sometimes that actually ends up working out, which means it's
Speaker 2: really all luck. But certainly a lot of games to
Speaker 2: bet on the night, and I had a two leg
Speaker 2: parlay come through last night, which gives me a little
Speaker 2: momentum heading into tonight. Not a great weekend for me, certainly,
Speaker 2: not a good Sunday. Did not do well with the
Speaker 2: NFL playoffs. But when it comes to when it comes
Speaker 2: to the two leg parlay last night, it was I
Speaker 2: did money Line, and I didn't want to say this
Speaker 2: too to Austin, but I did money Line Rams and
Speaker 2: I actually didn't get in on time, So I got
Speaker 2: better odds. Don't I feel like there were better odds,
Speaker 2: more juice, I should say, for a RAMS money line
Speaker 2: when to come through early in the game than it
Speaker 2: was before kicked off. But I don't know what would
Speaker 2: have happened early on that would have made that adjustment,
Speaker 2: made that shift, because I mean, the Vikings were I mean,
Speaker 2: didn't really seem like they were ever in a good position.
Speaker 2: I mean, as Troy Aikman said, everything that could go
Speaker 2: wrong seemingly went wrong for the Vikings last night. So
Speaker 2: I took Rams money line. And then I also and
Speaker 2: I've I've had some luck with this. I call it
Speaker 2: luck because I still don't know if it's because I'm
Speaker 2: just getting lucky or maybe I am having some ability
Speaker 2: to kind of see the lines move and get a
Speaker 2: feel for the totals Like Live total bets are are
Speaker 2: fascinating to me because you know, you can you know,
Speaker 2: there's calculators out there that I reference from time to
Speaker 2: time that'll tell me, Okay, right now, Live, I'm getting
Speaker 2: one point fifty six and a half. That seems way
Speaker 2: too high. What are they on pace to get?
Speaker 3: Wow? This is that this line is said as if
Speaker 3: they expect things to really pick up. I don't. I
Speaker 3: think it's going to be played ugly. So let me
Speaker 3: go ahead and take the under.
Speaker 2: And I've had a few instances where that worked out
Speaker 2: for me, and I'm going to continue to do it.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because I'm just getting
Speaker 2: lucky or if maybe you know, because it changes so
Speaker 2: much that that's why I used to hate live betting whenever.
Speaker 2: And actually, I guess this is this is probably something
Speaker 2: I didn't mean. I should have realized this before, just
Speaker 2: now in this moment. But when I used to try
Speaker 2: to do live bets, I could never get him in
Speaker 2: because anytime I would make a selection within it within
Speaker 2: a second to click make bet, they would change and
Speaker 2: I'd have to reset. And every time I would pick
Speaker 2: something new and then try to bet, it would tell
Speaker 2: me that it's that it's changed again. But I just
Speaker 2: realized that was whenever I was using an offshore sportsbook,
Speaker 2: because you know, it wasn't legal here. Now it's and
Speaker 2: they still change quite a bit, and you don't have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of time to, you know, put something
Speaker 2: extensive together, as far as a parlay that features live
Speaker 2: games because by the time you've picked three or four legs,
Speaker 2: half of them or more have probably it changed. But
Speaker 2: within the apps were using here legally they have a
Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty they keep they keep the legs
Speaker 2: together and just have you acknowledge that there has been
Speaker 2: some slight movement. But I kind of like the live
Speaker 2: betting because I feel like, you know, when I do win,
Speaker 2: and again it's probably just luck, it gives me, you know,
Speaker 2: there's an added level of accomplishment because I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what they were making. They were making adjustments,
Speaker 2: and they were making these changes and they were wrong.
Speaker 2: I had a better eye for where this game was going. Again,
Speaker 2: it's all luck at the end of the day, but
Speaker 2: it's even more enjoyable when you feel like you didn't
Speaker 2: just get lucky, you saw something that nobody else did.
Speaker 2: Louisville still favored by eight. That has moved a little
Speaker 2: bit throughout the day. I think it was closer to
Speaker 2: seven as of this morning. But yeah, just looking at
Speaker 2: other matchups tonight, I mean, again, I know it's not
Speaker 2: probably great content for this show, but there are some
Speaker 2: really good games tonight when it comes to like, I
Speaker 2: mean games where you've got low spreads because like Indiana Illinois,
Speaker 2: like that should be a really good game. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's going to be Ole Miss in Alabama.
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a really good game. Yet
Speaker 2: Alabama's favored by eleven and a half points. I think
Speaker 2: that's a little much. And then tonight, Wow, you don't
Speaker 2: often see this, but makes total sense. Oh and five Miami.
Speaker 2: Of course, Larnaga bailed mid season because they're an absolute mess.
Speaker 3: Duke is really playing well.
Speaker 2: Maybe the best team in the country their favorite About
Speaker 2: twenty four I could.
Speaker 3: Be wrong here.
Speaker 2: There can't be many games in acc play in recent
Speaker 2: years where the spread's been that big, and if it
Speaker 2: was in recent years, it was probably Louisville being on
Speaker 2: the wrong end of it. But yeah, twenty four point favorites,
Speaker 2: Duke is over Miami. I'm not gonna touch it. But
Speaker 2: if I I mean, if I had to, I would
Speaker 2: take Duke to cover. But tonight, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: to me as a college basketball nerd, this is a
Speaker 2: real win for us when it comes to conference realignment
Speaker 2: because what this has done is it has it's made
Speaker 2: it to where you now have like West Coast games
Speaker 2: against teams that not that you care about, but you're
Speaker 2: familiar with the enough to where you're gonna want to
Speaker 2: watch because or you're gonna want to watch if you
Speaker 2: bet on it right. And you've got a tip off
Speaker 2: tonight between Baylor and Arizona at eleven o'clock USC I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: UCF and Arizona State also at eleven o'clock. This isn't
Speaker 2: a Westcoat, this isn't a big time matchup, but at
Speaker 2: Colorado State San Diego State at eleven o'clock. So nerds
Speaker 2: like myself, sickos for the sport of college basketball. It
Speaker 2: is great when we know we can stay up till
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock and watch, you know, like games they're gonna
Speaker 2: be on TV, not on some obscure streaming network. And
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna stay up and watch these games
Speaker 2: in their entirety, but I know this, I'll probably be
Speaker 2: looking at about I don't know, ten o'clock realizing anything
Speaker 2: I bet beforehand was not successful, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: looking at what's available and I'm gonna think, you know what,
Speaker 2: here we go, We're gonna we're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: finish potentially strong we're gonna be able to end the
Speaker 2: night with a win. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: gonna happen, but I'll at least have a chance to
Speaker 2: go to sleep thinking there's a chance I could end
Speaker 2: the day with a win rather than a loss. If
Speaker 2: history repeats itself, it won't be successful for me. And
Speaker 2: I don't want to make it out to where I
Speaker 2: never win, because I went enough to where it's still
Speaker 2: at least enjoyable. I could lose five straight times, but
Speaker 2: if I get a win on the six, try like
Speaker 2: it's awesome. That's what keeps you around, at least for me.
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. Let's get to the top
Speaker 2: of the hour break here. We've got another hour to go.
Speaker 2: Five o'clock hour is next, and we'll keep this thing
Speaker 2: rolling along, at least I think we will. I'm a
Speaker 2: one man operation right now, meaning I'm the only one
Speaker 2: here producing and hosting, so I don't really know.
Speaker 3: I think we're on the air. I hope we are, but.
Speaker 2: I feel like we weren't. I would know by now,
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