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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of January twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing with Lost season two episode five, Dot Dot

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<v Speaker 1>Dot and Found, which could also have just been called

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<v Speaker 1>we have more episod so it's to fill. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>have storyline, so here enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little bit more about Jin and Son and

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<v Speaker 2>how they met.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like we knew before, yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 1>did learn a few things. We learned The Sawyer is

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<v Speaker 1>neither gay nor married.

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<v Speaker 2>Information right.

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<v Speaker 1>We learned that the way to find something you have

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<v Speaker 1>lost is to stop looking for luck, So good luck

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<v Speaker 1>with that. We we uh learned that if you're burying

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle in the sand, maybe take your ring off

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<v Speaker 1>and put it in a pocket first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And did we not think when you were retracing

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<v Speaker 2>your steps and looking for it, like, oh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was digging in the sand with my bare hands, you

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<v Speaker 2>would have snoop not son, She didn't, she didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, yep. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jack's wedding ring is in a sock drawer, remember, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, also no longer married, which we knew before, which

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<v Speaker 1>we already knew. Yeah, yeh, yeah, I noticed its Sun

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<v Speaker 1>still is wearing her watch, which still looks very pristine

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<v Speaker 1>and like it just came out of a sock drawer.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is exactly the purpose of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell time on the islands?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if you like to go to bed the

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<v Speaker 1>same time every night and haven't don't have a sun

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<v Speaker 1>dial or anything, it's you know, everybody asks Sun what time?

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<v Speaker 1>Do this thing? And she looks and she says, why yes,

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<v Speaker 1>no sand or water has impeded my time piece. It's

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<v Speaker 1>uh a one super quality from my rich father.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and we learned that, uh, you know, blind dating

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<v Speaker 1>is just generally bad, even if you have somebody setting

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<v Speaker 1>you up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Really nice restaurant to go to, m h Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, poor son, like I seemed he seemed nice. Turned

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a lot of suspense though. Wasn't he knew that

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to end up with the doorman? Come on, right?

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<v Speaker 1>From a parenting point of view, we had that reminder

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<v Speaker 1>lesson that your kid is going to have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom in advance. Reminded me of how I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants their kid to get out of diapers. Diapers

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<v Speaker 1>or pain diapers are expensive, you have to change them,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gross. But man, you never have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>your kid having to go to the bathroom somewhere you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a place for them to go, ye, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about them touching disgusting things

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<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom, which you do once they're self sufficient.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you sure do?

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was like, really do it? Could I

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<v Speaker 1>just still put him on the changing table when we're out.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that be okay? I would't mess him up too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yea, because I had I had a kid who

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<v Speaker 1>was very much in the uh the touch things and

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<v Speaker 1>put your hands in your mouth, yes, for way past

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<v Speaker 1>the time, which it didn't make me scream, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had to.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to feel for that guy and his job

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<v Speaker 1>because you didn't have a plan where your kids was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be. Nice work man. If he hadn't lost his job,

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<v Speaker 1>he never would have met son, you know, never would

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<v Speaker 1>have had a tragic romance. He never would have been

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<v Speaker 2>So so basically it's all because of that kid.

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<v Speaker 1>That kid, if you could have held it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer, everybody's lives would have been different.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we uh got a name to apply to mister echo.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, Also, I believe they gave a name to

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<v Speaker 1>Libby the blonde. Looks like she has not been having

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<v Speaker 1>a fine time on the island, right, And UH learned

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<v Speaker 1>a little of their story. Sorry, I guess that a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of their people got absconded with Are we supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to think that. When then, when uh Gin and mister

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<v Speaker 1>Echo are hiding in the bush and we see a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of legs go by.

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<v Speaker 2>So many legs really alive?

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<v Speaker 1>Were those supposed to be some of their compadres or

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<v Speaker 1>just or those the others themselves? Or just what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that? And how much do those people get

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<v Speaker 1>paid for late legap?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Just did the ones who were wearing pants get paid

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<v Speaker 1>less than the ones who had to have their legs

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<v Speaker 1>all dirty up? I think so. I think there should

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<v Speaker 1>have been pro rating on them. Yeah, if Walt had

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<v Speaker 1>a teddy Bear, I would have thought that was probably him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do not believe the Walt had a Teddybear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that looked like a white kid, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was legs were all covered with dirt, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like you could tell.

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<v Speaker 1>But I sort of wonder what the purpose of having

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<v Speaker 1>the teddy Bear there is if it's not to differentiate that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a kid, and we're looking for a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But right who knows there are other kids?

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<v Speaker 2>There are other kids. Apparently it's let us know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess all sorts of problems, but I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like most kids don't drag their comfort objects around by

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<v Speaker 1>a string, like if you're gonna insist on keeping this

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<v Speaker 1>teddy bear, They're they're holding it like they're not by

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<v Speaker 1>the neck. Maybe teddy, but it could go through anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like seeing some things. I guess street.

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<v Speaker 1>Me rough me up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent, on the other hand, seems to have no particular

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<v Speaker 1>is are there no leashes? Does Shannon just let him

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<v Speaker 1>run around and they go, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My gosh, I can't find the door? Right, they do

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<v Speaker 2>have a leash.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes set up a little pan. I'm pretty sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>enough junk on the beach that they could set up

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<v Speaker 1>a little pan for this animal. Lock could build it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lock could absolutely build it. You can build it

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<v Speaker 1>any He could build it and the dog would like it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, just go poop all over the place. Got

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<v Speaker 1>a ring in there? Let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>First, we dug in the sand, We looked for a

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<v Speaker 1>lost object. We waited for a dog to poop something out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one one fun day after the other Lepole Island, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I could sympathize with Michael. I mean, it's ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>that Michael just they say the others are over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just runs through the jungle in that general direction. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also have myself known the completely irrational burst

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<v Speaker 1>of energy you get doing something for your kid. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna get that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find them, and you just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fly off into absolutely no effective way of doing what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do. But dang it, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit there. I'm not gonna stand here. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>make it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 1>That seemed to me like a very parenting behavior, completely

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<v Speaker 1>irrational and heated and loud and uh doomed to failure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, at least you don't have to just

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean Jinn's extremely limited English, he just does

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be able to follow what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He's picking it up. He's learned a couple of words,

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<v Speaker 1>he's heard a lot of words, a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Others. Yeah, no, stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's able to say, you'll find Walt, Yes, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a fast learner. He still has that

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<v Speaker 1>book that son gave him, both with Trent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Port Starboard anchor. Very helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>You just start saying that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>I also thought that suns extended. Really it was episode

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<v Speaker 1>long search for her Ring. This is how light the

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<v Speaker 1>thread was in this particular episode. Did remind me of

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<v Speaker 1>when you just go fervently after some small thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you think you can change. Yes, yes, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even do the small thing, yes, it is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Start ripping out your garden that you work so hard on.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, in this case, I mean, the ring has sentimental

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<v Speaker 1>value regarding Jin, who she feels she has lost, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a little more of a significance to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's still it's like the I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>this one small thing if it kills me and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in my pathes because I have to do someth thing

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<v Speaker 1>So a hug for you through the airways. It's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad it wasn't its intestines. I'm glad. Yes, And Kate

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<v Speaker 1>is sad that she didn't say goodbout a Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's kind of the blue. Yeah, he really came

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, I guess now that he's dead, she can

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also what was going through the notes in

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<v Speaker 2>the bottle? Gonna yes do for that scenario? Like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you thinking he left one for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't know she read them. Maybe he said

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she knows she didn't put one in there,

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<v Speaker 2>or if she did, you know, it wasn't about him.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, I don't know what she thinks she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>find in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably she didn't put the airplane in there.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not gonna let that go.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen the airplane in a while. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was next to Sun Sun's wedding ring.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we talked about last week, these people are

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<v Speaker 2>jumping to conclusions.

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<v Speaker 1>They really are. They really are, because we are just

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<v Speaker 1>right over there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're coming, they're coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do anything. Don't do anything permanent. Yeah, that will

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<v Speaker 1>be a problem when they come back. Right, Rose should

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<v Speaker 1>not take up with some other young guy there.

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<v Speaker 2>Rose is the only one who's we can be certain

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<v Speaker 2>it is not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do Yes, she is faithful. Good for her, She's going

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<v Speaker 1>jungle on the way that wouldn't happen. Rose has to

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<v Speaker 1>the all the all the young young people having stressful situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Rose is just doing laundry, waiting for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's unflappable.

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<v Speaker 2>That one.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to keep it that way. I do not

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when we finished watching this episode, my husband's assessment

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, or if you do, go back and look

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<v Speaker 2>in that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're retracing your steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey, Yes, I mean, I guess. She was just so

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<v Speaker 1>But she was not thinking clearly. No, a thing which,

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<v Speaker 1>as mentioned previously, I can relate to you. So yikes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're on the islands. I know they were talking about showers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they talked about a latrine.

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<v Speaker 2>No, only only vincent. How they how they alluded to

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent's needs in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Area, but yes, nobody else, it's fine. They're not eating

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<v Speaker 2>So and you know, we know they don't have diapers

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<v Speaker 2>for the baby, right like Blcke hasn't like beaten some

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<v Speaker 2>wood into pulp and made it into diapers, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna say he has. And that somebody has built

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<v Speaker 1>an outhouse, yes, or a series of them. There's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a bad There must be a bathroom in the hatch, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen it. Yeah, there's a shower. There must

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and toilet paper, Darma dharma toilet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right branded toilet paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should stop. This episode was much Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've pretty much gotten what we can out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like like a generic lost title. Like all

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<v Speaker 1>the action picks up somewhat, so okay, we will not

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for somebody's small lost item. Good and and

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<v Speaker 1>saying again, hey, did we tell you that that Jack

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<v Speaker 1>got married? Let's look at that again. Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that Kate has an airplane? She had a boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that about again?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just have a reminder, No, no more of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving forward progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, about time. We will see you back here tomorrow

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