Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of January twentieth,
Speaker 1: we're continuing with Lost season two episode five, Dot Dot
Speaker 1: Dot and Found, which could also have just been called
Speaker 1: we have more episod so it's to fill. Then we
Speaker 1: have storyline, so here enjoy this.
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit more about Jin and Son and
Speaker 2: how they met.
Speaker 1: And I feel like we knew before, yeah, but we
Speaker 1: did learn a few things. We learned The Sawyer is
Speaker 1: neither gay nor married.
Speaker 2: Information right.
Speaker 1: We learned that the way to find something you have
Speaker 1: lost is to stop looking for luck, So good luck
Speaker 1: with that. We we uh learned that if you're burying
Speaker 1: a bottle in the sand, maybe take your ring off
Speaker 1: and put it in a pocket first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And did we not think when you were retracing
Speaker 2: your steps and looking for it, like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was digging in the sand with my bare hands, you
Speaker 2: would have snoop not son, She didn't, she didn't think
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. Uh.
Speaker 2: The Jack's wedding ring is in a sock drawer, remember, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, also no longer married, which we knew before, which
Speaker 1: we already knew. Yeah, yeh, yeah, I noticed its Sun
Speaker 1: still is wearing her watch, which still looks very pristine
Speaker 1: and like it just came out of a sock drawer.
Speaker 1: But what is exactly the purpose of being able to
Speaker 1: tell time on the islands?
Speaker 2: Good question.
Speaker 1: I guess if you like to go to bed the
Speaker 1: same time every night and haven't don't have a sun
Speaker 1: dial or anything, it's you know, everybody asks Sun what time?
Speaker 1: Do this thing? And she looks and she says, why yes,
Speaker 1: no sand or water has impeded my time piece. It's
Speaker 1: uh a one super quality from my rich father.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, and we learned that, uh, you know, blind dating
Speaker 1: is just generally bad, even if you have somebody setting
Speaker 1: you up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was too bad.
Speaker 1: Really nice restaurant to go to, m h Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, poor son, like I seemed he seemed nice. Turned
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Was a lot of suspense though. Wasn't he knew that
Speaker 1: she was going to end up with the doorman? Come on, right?
Speaker 1: From a parenting point of view, we had that reminder
Speaker 1: lesson that your kid is going to have to go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom in advance. Reminded me of how I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody wants their kid to get out of diapers. Diapers
Speaker 1: or pain diapers are expensive, you have to change them,
Speaker 1: it's gross. But man, you never have to worry about
Speaker 1: your kid having to go to the bathroom somewhere you
Speaker 1: don't have a place for them to go, ye, and
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about them touching disgusting things
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, which you do once they're self sufficient.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you sure do?
Speaker 1: I was, I was like, really do it? Could I
Speaker 1: just still put him on the changing table when we're out.
Speaker 1: Would that be okay? I would't mess him up too much?
Speaker 2: Was it? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, because I had I had a kid who
Speaker 1: was very much in the uh the touch things and
Speaker 1: put your hands in your mouth, yes, for way past
Speaker 1: the time, which it didn't make me scream, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had to.
Speaker 1: You had to feel for that guy and his job
Speaker 1: because you didn't have a plan where your kids was
Speaker 1: gonna be. Nice work man. If he hadn't lost his job,
Speaker 1: he never would have met son, you know, never would
Speaker 1: have had a tragic romance. He never would have been
Speaker 1: on an island with a bunch of misfits, uh being
Speaker 1: afraid of the others.
Speaker 2: So so basically it's all because of that kid.
Speaker 1: That kid, if you could have held it a little
Speaker 1: bit longer, everybody's lives would have been different.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we uh got a name to apply to mister echo.
Speaker 1: Right right, Also, I believe they gave a name to
Speaker 1: Libby the blonde. Looks like she has not been having
Speaker 1: a fine time on the island, right, And UH learned
Speaker 1: a little of their story. Sorry, I guess that a
Speaker 1: bunch of their people got absconded with Are we supposed
Speaker 1: to think that. When then, when uh Gin and mister
Speaker 1: Echo are hiding in the bush and we see a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of legs go by.
Speaker 2: So many legs really alive?
Speaker 1: Were those supposed to be some of their compadres or
Speaker 1: just or those the others themselves? Or just what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was that? And how much do those people get
Speaker 1: paid for late legap?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Just did the ones who were wearing pants get paid
Speaker 1: less than the ones who had to have their legs
Speaker 1: all dirty up? I think so. I think there should
Speaker 1: have been pro rating on them. Yeah, if Walt had
Speaker 1: a teddy Bear, I would have thought that was probably him.
Speaker 1: But I do not believe the Walt had a Teddybear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that looked like a white kid, even though
Speaker 2: it was legs were all covered with dirt, but it
Speaker 2: seemed like you could tell.
Speaker 1: But I sort of wonder what the purpose of having
Speaker 1: the teddy Bear there is if it's not to differentiate that, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is a kid, and we're looking for a kid.
Speaker 1: But right who knows there are other kids?
Speaker 2: There are other kids. Apparently it's let us know that.
Speaker 1: I guess all sorts of problems, but I do feel
Speaker 1: like most kids don't drag their comfort objects around by
Speaker 1: a string, like if you're gonna insist on keeping this
Speaker 1: teddy bear, They're they're holding it like they're not by
Speaker 1: the neck. Maybe teddy, but it could go through anything.
Speaker 2: It's like seeing some things. I guess street.
Speaker 1: Me rough me up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: Vincent, on the other hand, seems to have no particular
Speaker 1: is are there no leashes? Does Shannon just let him
Speaker 1: run around and they go, oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, I can't find the door? Right, they do
Speaker 2: have a leash.
Speaker 1: Sometimes set up a little pan. I'm pretty sure there's
Speaker 1: enough junk on the beach that they could set up
Speaker 1: a little pan for this animal. Lock could build it, right,
Speaker 1: but Lock could absolutely build it. You can build it
Speaker 1: any He could build it and the dog would like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, just go poop all over the place. Got
Speaker 1: a ring in there? Let us know.
Speaker 2: If you go. Let's see.
Speaker 1: First, we dug in the sand, We looked for a
Speaker 1: lost object. We waited for a dog to poop something out,
Speaker 1: you know, one one fun day after the other Lepole Island, Right,
Speaker 1: But I could sympathize with Michael. I mean, it's ridiculous
Speaker 1: that Michael just they say the others are over there,
Speaker 1: and he just runs through the jungle in that general direction. Right.
Speaker 1: But I also have myself known the completely irrational burst
Speaker 1: of energy you get doing something for your kid. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna get that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find them, and you just like you know,
Speaker 1: fly off into absolutely no effective way of doing what
Speaker 1: you want to do. But dang it, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: sit there. I'm not gonna stand here. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: make it worse.
Speaker 2: Oh dear.
Speaker 1: That seemed to me like a very parenting behavior, completely
Speaker 1: irrational and heated and loud and uh doomed to failure.
Speaker 1: But you know, at least you don't have to just
Speaker 1: stand there.
Speaker 2: And I mean Jinn's extremely limited English, he just does
Speaker 2: seem to be able to follow what's happened.
Speaker 1: He's picking it up. He's learned a couple of words,
Speaker 1: he's heard a lot of words, a lot.
Speaker 2: Others. Yeah, no, stop it.
Speaker 1: He's able to say, you'll find Walt, Yes, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a fast learner. He still has that
Speaker 1: book that son gave him, both with Trent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Port Starboard anchor. Very helpful.
Speaker 1: You just start saying that you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh goodness.
Speaker 1: I also thought that suns extended. Really it was episode
Speaker 1: long search for her Ring. This is how light the
Speaker 1: thread was in this particular episode. Did remind me of
Speaker 1: when you just go fervently after some small thing that
Speaker 1: you think you can change. Yes, yes, it is a
Speaker 1: big thing that is really bothering you, and then when
Speaker 1: you can't even do the small thing, yes, it is just.
Speaker 2: Start ripping out your garden that you work so hard on.
Speaker 1: Now, in this case, I mean, the ring has sentimental
Speaker 1: value regarding Jin, who she feels she has lost, right,
Speaker 1: so there's a little more of a significance to it.
Speaker 1: But it's still it's like the I'm going to do
Speaker 1: this one small thing if it kills me and everybody
Speaker 1: in my pathes because I have to do someth thing
Speaker 1: and I can't do the thing that I need to do.
Speaker 1: So a hug for you through the airways. It's I'm
Speaker 1: glad it wasn't its intestines. I'm glad. Yes, And Kate
Speaker 1: is sad that she didn't say goodbout a Sawyer.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's kind of the blue. Yeah, he really came
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I guess now that he's dead, she can
Speaker 1: feel warmly towards him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also what was going through the notes in
Speaker 2: the bottle? Gonna yes do for that scenario? Like, are
Speaker 2: you thinking he left one for you?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know she read them. Maybe he said
Speaker 1: something nice about her or something.
Speaker 2: I mean, she knows she didn't put one in there,
Speaker 2: or if she did, you know, it wasn't about him.
Speaker 2: So like, I don't know what she thinks she's gonna
Speaker 2: find in there.
Speaker 1: Probably she didn't put the airplane in there.
Speaker 2: She's not gonna let that go.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen the airplane in a while. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was next to Sun Sun's wedding ring.
Speaker 2: But as we talked about last week, these people are
Speaker 2: jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 1: They really are. They really are, because we are just
Speaker 1: right over there.
Speaker 2: They're coming, they're coming back.
Speaker 1: Don't do anything. Don't do anything permanent. Yeah, that will
Speaker 1: be a problem when they come back. Right, Rose should
Speaker 1: not take up with some other young guy there.
Speaker 2: Rose is the only one who's we can be certain
Speaker 2: it is not going to.
Speaker 1: Do Yes, she is faithful. Good for her, She's going
Speaker 1: to be so happy unless he gets killed in the
Speaker 1: jungle on the way that wouldn't happen. Rose has to
Speaker 1: be our little little happy place in the middle of
Speaker 1: the all the all the young young people having stressful situations.
Speaker 1: Right Rose is just doing laundry, waiting for us, and
Speaker 1: she's unflappable.
Speaker 2: That one.
Speaker 1: We need to keep it that way. I do not
Speaker 1: wish to see her suffer.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Well, when we finished watching this episode, my husband's assessment
Speaker 1: of it was what a waste. I said, I had
Speaker 1: to find some parenting lessons in it, and he said,
Speaker 1: don't go digging in the sand. So I share with
Speaker 1: you his wisdom. Yeah, at least you know, take your
Speaker 1: precious jewelry off.
Speaker 2: I guess, or if you do, go back and look
Speaker 2: in that spot.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're retracing your steps.
Speaker 2: Honey, Yes, I mean, I guess. She was just so
Speaker 2: grief stricken that she forgot.
Speaker 1: But she was not thinking clearly. No, a thing which,
Speaker 1: as mentioned previously, I can relate to you. So yikes,
Speaker 1: did they they set up a like a twelve that
Speaker 1: they're on the islands. I know they were talking about showers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they talked about a latrine.
Speaker 2: No, only only vincent. How they how they alluded to
Speaker 2: Vincent's needs in that.
Speaker 1: Area, but yes, nobody else, it's fine. They're not eating
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 2: So and you know, we know they don't have diapers
Speaker 2: for the baby, right like Blcke hasn't like beaten some
Speaker 2: wood into pulp and made it into diapers, so.
Speaker 1: It's gonna say he has. And that somebody has built
Speaker 1: an outhouse, yes, or a series of them. There's probably
Speaker 1: a bad There must be a bathroom in the hatch, right,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. Yeah, there's a shower. There must
Speaker 1: be like stalls or something, right, yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: to think it's just let's just assume.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and toilet paper, Darma dharma toilet.
Speaker 2: Right branded toilet paper.
Speaker 1: I think we should stop. This episode was much Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've pretty much gotten what we can out of that.
Speaker 2: I would say, right.
Speaker 1: Next week we will continue with season two, episode six,
Speaker 1: have lost called abandoned. I'm surprised they haven't used that before.
Speaker 1: It seems like like a generic lost title. Like all
Speaker 1: the action picks up somewhat, so okay, we will not
Speaker 1: be looking for somebody's small lost item. Good and and
Speaker 1: saying again, hey, did we tell you that that Jack
Speaker 1: got married? Let's look at that again. Did you know
Speaker 1: that Kate has an airplane? She had a boyfriend?
Speaker 2: What was that about again?
Speaker 1: Let's just have a reminder, No, no more of that.
Speaker 2: Moving forward progress.
Speaker 1: Yes, about time. We will see you back here tomorrow
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