WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.719 We're Toarmin Lorenzo and this is the Pop Style Opinion Fest. 2 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.440 Telegan's welcome back to another edition of the Pso. I 3 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.800 am the team. You're Telow Tom Fitzgerald, and I'm here 4 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.039 with All and your Telo Lorenzo because my love the husband. 5 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.200 He how are your lovely husband. 6 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:37.119 I'm wonderful. 7 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.520 He is working every day preparing our trip. So much 8 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:45.799 to do. Uh and Donicall and Dublin, We're just gonna 9 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:46.960 be very busy boys. 10 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.119 I was just talking to someone about it, like, we 11 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:52.280 can't just go. I mean there's so much reparation, right, 12 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.039 you know, for the site, for everything. I wish I 13 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:58.240 could just go and not worry about anything, like like 14 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.840 any other person. I can play, But now we have 15 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.799 to prepare ahead of time everything, and then we still 16 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:06.760 have to write. I mean we we you know, we 17 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:09.400 tour all day, which is wonderful. I'm not complaining, But 18 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:10.920 then we go back to the hotel and then we 19 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:12.120 have to start prepairing. 20 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.879 Fan to work, and we're gonna wind up recording, yeah, 21 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.200 two of the Bitterkin Movie Club entries before we go. 22 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.680 We're probably gonna wind up doing that this weekend actually, 23 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.120 And so that we can space them out while we're gone. 24 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.200 But yeah, it's just it's it's how it is. I'm 25 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:30.959 not complaining. I'm a god. He's a wonderful true. 26 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:36.439 Yeah, a little bit, but no, very exciting, very excited. 27 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.719 We've been to Ireland, as I mentioned, but I'm very 28 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:40.799 excited about Scotland. 29 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.280 And we're checking the weather every day, I know, because 30 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.000 it's that we're going to We're not gonna I know, 31 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:48.879 not gonna be I mean, and is not going to 32 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:49.120 get that. 33 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.000 Europe is on fire right now. And it's funny because 34 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.120 my brother lives in the Netherlands and I just text 35 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.120 him and I said, how's the weather there? I know 36 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.719 it's Bernie and and he's like, yeah, and we don't 37 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.120 have it condition And I completely forgot he doesn't have it. 38 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.480 And I'm like, what, you don't have air condition? No, 39 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.879 we don't. We don't need it. Well, clearly you guys do. 40 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.439 I mean, things have to change. I was just listening 41 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.639 on NPR about that, because that's all they talk about. 42 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.520 It's how hot it is in your that Europe has 43 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:17.240 to change that. I mean, they have to story. 44 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.319 Well, part of the problem, for instance in the UK 45 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:22.960 because this is an issue in the UK is that 46 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:26.319 they're you know, their infrastructure does not really support and 47 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:30.000 we're not just talking about things like windows. It's also 48 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.719 the kind of roofs that they have, and it's you know, 49 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.680 the kind of insulation that they My understanding is they 50 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:39.919 don't actually have that much intulation in the UK. It's 51 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.879 not actually you know, legally required as much. 52 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.680 I mean, aside from hotels obviously they have their prepare 53 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.479 for guests for tourists, but in general, I remember going 54 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:51.080 to the Buccane Palace, I believe, and it's smell like 55 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:52.080 sweat inside. 56 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.479 Yeah, but I mean it's even further than that, like 57 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.639 their rail lines cannot handle the heat because the metal 58 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.800 of their trucks can't even handle it. So like the economy, 59 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.719 it affects the economy. Inous ways, forty people drowned, and 60 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:12.520 I know, and I mean I've seen some of this 61 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.479 on social media. Europeans get very bent out of ship 62 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.319 when Americans start saying shit like this, And I have 63 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:23.919 to say, there's no denying that there's a certain amount 64 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.159 of anti American posturing when they start getting defensive about it, 65 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.840 like air conditioning is something that you use stilly Americans 66 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:36.120 cook or hardcore Europeans don't need it, and it's like, well, actually, 67 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.599 hundreds of you were dying every year, so maybe you 68 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.960 do need it. But like I said, it's not as 69 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:44.080 simple as Americans think. We'll just pop it a window 70 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.080 unit in, but their windows can't support it, their electrical 71 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:48.280 grid can't support it. 72 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:50.039 So you know, a lot going on. 73 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.800 It wasn't you know, these countries were not developed. You know, 74 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:58.000 they're thousands of years old in a climate that was gone. 75 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:00.240 You know, they never had to worry about this sort 76 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.479 of stuff. That's why we look at America and there 77 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:06.879 are whole portions, massive portions of America that get very, 78 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.759 very hot, and always did. It's not like suddenly Arizona 79 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:13.439 became as hot, as it's been that way for hundreds 80 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.279 of years. So it's sort of built into our culture 81 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.759 that yeah, you need air conditioning at this time of year. 82 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.480 Yeah, and well that's the beauty over Europe because everything 83 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:21.959 gets old. 84 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.319 But then when when the climates start changing, and then 85 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:26.959 when you get old you die of heat stroke. 86 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:31.240 I know. So anyway, it's very hot there. I don't 87 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.639 think Scotland will be hot, but I think I don't. 88 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.519 I mean, Ireland will be but I don't keep checking 89 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.439 and it's not going above eighty degrees anytime over there. 90 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:43.839 You tell us gott you Scottish, you know kittens, tell. 91 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.240 Us the UK kittens and the Irish. Well we're not 92 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.120 going to be in England, but let us know. 93 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:49.519 How the weather. 94 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:52.199 All right, we have much to talk about. Yes, yes, yes, 95 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.759 I know that you have some tiktoky things that you 96 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.720 want to get off your chest. And you've been, like 97 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.759 most of America observing all of the people from all 98 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.120 over the world coming to the to the country for 99 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:08.879 the World Cup, and it's actually been a good moment 100 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.319 for us because you know, this country is not in 101 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.360 a great place at the moment are standing in the 102 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:20.439 world is the worst it's ever been. And you know, 103 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:24.160 there was talk for months ahead of time because of 104 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:28.319 the you know, draconian immigration policies of this administration and 105 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.240 the way people are just getting turned away. There was 106 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.519 that referee a couple of weeks ago that was turned 107 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:38.759 away and people predicted, oh my god, this was going 108 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:40.800 to be a disaster for the United States. It's we're 109 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.279 gonna look, We're gonna be so embarrassed on the world stage. 110 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:47.079 But I think the reason this has been so great 111 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:50.839 is because it's people meeting people. It's not countries meeting countries. 112 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:54.680 It's not leaders meeting leaders. It's actually people from Scotland 113 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.399 partying with people from Boston. You know, when you get 114 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.879 away from the leaders and the policy and all of 115 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:06.040 that other stuff and you just let people be people. Yeah, 116 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:07.439 America is a great place, right. 117 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.879 They have something else in common, which is sports, you know, right, soccer. 118 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.879 They all beer and beer, which they ran out of 119 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:15.560 beer in Boston. 120 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:16.160 In Boston. 121 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.959 It's just that, you know, it's Yeah. When when they 122 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.800 announced the games, we're gonna be here, it got very 123 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.279 complicated and it was this whole discussion about you know, 124 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:27.720 how we're gonna handle it, and when we're in the 125 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.879 middle of this immigration crisis, and a lot of people 126 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.959 were saying, we're not going, but you know, if you're 127 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.000 a hardcore fan, you you're gonna come no matter what. 128 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:37.639 And a lot of people did. And it was interesting 129 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:41.959 to see, especially on social media on TikTok, all these 130 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.959 representations here was just so much fun. All the things 131 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.279 that happened, like especially here in Philadelphia, we had the braziliance, 132 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.560 we had the French people they were all here. They 133 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.920 were all over the Art Museum, you know, the steps 134 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.759 and and just partying and dancing. And then in Boston 135 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.439 they had Thetish people wearing kilts all over the city 136 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.480 and having the best time. You know, they drank all 137 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:08.680 the beer they had there. And then they moved to Miami. 138 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:12.279 It is just fun. Fun to see, oh in the Dutch. 139 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:17.160 My god, the Dutch friends going nuts everywhere. Just awesome 140 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.240 to see that. I mean, you know, soccer fans in 141 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:22.920 Europe they can get a little wild, and I'll leave 142 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:26.160 it at that, you know, but they can also be 143 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:29.600 a lot of fun. They yeah, they're fun. They they're 144 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.199 they're enthusiastic about everything. And it was nice to see 145 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:37.399 them here in the country. And it was interesting to see, 146 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:41.439 especially on TikTok with hilarious they experiencing America, United States 147 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:43.519 for the first time and all the things that they 148 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:45.600 noticed here that they were just funny. One of them, 149 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:47.720 the first one I thought it was hilarious, is that 150 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:50.399 how everything is huge, because you know, they went to Dallas, 151 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:53.839 most of them, and how everything is huge, like the 152 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.160 supermarkets are huge, Walmart. They couldn't believe how all the 153 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.879 choices that we have here of Syria, of everything, and 154 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.639 it's just just fun to see that. The other thing 155 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.439 was the portions, you know, like how they all went 156 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.720 to restaurants and how you know, the portions are enormous here. 157 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.360 And it's funny because we have international friends. We have 158 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.480 friends from Blatin America everywhere, and when they come here, 159 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.040 they always mentioned the same thing. They always talk about 160 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.480 how big the portions are here in the United States 161 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:22.920 compared to you know ere for example, where you get 162 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:26.279 like these tiny little things when you go to a restaurant. 163 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.319 So that was fun to see on social media people 164 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.959 showing their plates and it's just cute. And then the 165 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:37.360 thing about ranch dressing, which was hilarious. TSA had to 166 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.759 actually make a statement and tell Europeans when they were 167 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.840 heading back home to not, you know, buy so much 168 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.919 ranch dressing and to take it with them in the 169 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:51.279 in their you know, carry on luggage because they couldn't 170 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.679 do it. So that was funny to see. And I 171 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.799 believe it because my brother's obsessed with blue cheese dressing 172 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.440 and I always have to bring it to him because 173 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.720 he loves it. It's just funny how some salad dresses 174 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.679 in the United States are like people never heard of 175 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.519 it or never experience it, and they're obsessed with it. 176 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:12.440 So that was fun. The other thing that I find interesting, 177 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.399 of course, they're all here and you get to see 178 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.639 that conversation a lot on social media, especially on TikTok, 179 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:23.240 the whole tipping thing, which I find very very interesting 180 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:28.240 because Europeans especially are always complaining that they have to 181 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.000 tip here in the United States, and I find that fascinating, 182 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:34.480 the whole topic, because they just don't get it. It's 183 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.279 part of the culture here. It's one of the things 184 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:43.639 here that they just can't understand. And you know, also 185 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:45.320 the same thing when we go to Europe, like when 186 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:46.960 I go to Europe. When we go to Europe, I'm 187 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.240 always like confused about should I tip? I mean, how 188 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:51.480 much do I tip? I'm always asking my brother and 189 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:54.039 my friends, I mean should I And they're like, no, 190 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.519 don't worry about it. They're fine. It's just a different culture. 191 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:01.399 And I remember I've had situations here. I remember, and 192 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:02.960 it was all of the New York Times had a 193 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:06.320 whole article about it because how New York hate They 194 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:10.200 hate tourists because they don't tip, and so therefore they 195 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:12.639 give them a very bad service, and then they complain 196 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.039 about the service, but they don't understand that, you know, 197 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:19.000 it's the whole process. Here, it's a cycle. You know, 198 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:21.519 you don't get tips, so they don't feel like giving 199 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.639 you a good service. But Europeans feel like, you know, 200 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:29.320 they deserve a service regardless. But I had situations here. 201 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:32.519 I had a friend from Latin America coming here to 202 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:34.679 the United States and we went out to dinner and 203 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:37.720 we actually had a major fight about tippy because she 204 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.360 did not want to tip at all and I and 205 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.440 I just, yeah, I got a little annoyed with it 206 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:48.200 because I feel like it's I understand your point of view, 207 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.159 but at the same time, I feel like if you 208 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.639 are in a different country, you know, you have to 209 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:55.399 sort of adapt to the culture or the customs. You know, 210 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.559 if tippy is a thing he in the United States, 211 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.440 then you just have to go with it. It's just 212 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:02.000 the way it is. 213 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:02.720 Uh. 214 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.600 They rely on it, waiters rely on it, you know, 215 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.399 So I I understand. But at the same time, I 216 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.559 feel like, if you are in a different country, you 217 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.919 should sort of embrace how things are done. I do. 218 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:17.960 For the most part, people have been pretty good about 219 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:18.799 it while they've been here. 220 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:22.679 But I do also feel that we're way out of 221 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.879 line when it comes to tipping in this country. Now 222 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.679 that's a whole different story that. I mean, you get anything, 223 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.200 they ask you to tip for anything. Uh, So that's annoying. 224 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.159 And and they put you in a position where they 225 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:38.320 turn that thing around, that tablet around and and you know, 226 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.000 sort of like shame you if you don't tip anymore. 227 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.320 So it's complicated, but it's always it's very interesting every 228 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.840 time the topic comes up on social media, especially on TikTok. 229 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.240 They always, I mean, it's always a fight. It's always 230 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:56.120 this argument, especially between the United States and and your 231 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.440 when it comes to tipping. So, how do you feel 232 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.200 about it? Do you feel it's okay to tip? Do 233 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.759 you tip when you're in here? How do you feel 234 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.919 about the subject? And you, oh, you're asking I'm asking 235 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.080 our listeners in gen or how you feel if you 236 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.039 have any situation. Oh and then I had another friend 237 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.320 who didn't tip. He in the United State, and this 238 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:19.519 is hysterical. He left the restaurant, uh and the waiter 239 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:23.799 went after him, chased him down and ask him why 240 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.960 he didn't tip, And and and you know you didn't 241 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.360 like the service and it was something wrong why you 242 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.720 didn't tip and got him completely off course and he 243 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.200 didn't know what to say. But anyway, it it's yeah, 244 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.919 it's a complicated subject, but I feel like if you hear, 245 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.639 that's the bottom line to me is that if you hear, 246 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:43.399 then you should tip. 247 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.799 I agree, all right, Why don't we take a short 248 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.440 break before we do that. I do want to run 249 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.679 down what we're doing this because I never even mentioned it. 250 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.639 It's mostly a TV talk episode except for Lorenzo's little 251 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.120 thing about tipping. We just went through. But we're doing 252 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:03.919 a TV talk episode, and when we come back, I 253 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:11.200 will talk about Spider Noir. Proud I will find you, 254 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.200 And we're the last part of this podcast. We're going 255 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:18.080 to talk about how said the Dragon. 256 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:18.720 It's a lot. 257 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.600 Yeah, we'll be right back. We're back, and now we're 258 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.759 plunging into TV talk. I have been meaning to talk 259 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.159 a little bit about Spider Noir for a while, and 260 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.000 I'm kind of late. I didn't realize that that series 261 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:35.799 dropped almost a month ago. It dropped on Prime. It 262 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:39.399 stars Nicholas Cage. It's a sort of a take on 263 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:45.360 Spider Man. I'm actually a little surprised. As a longtime nerd, 264 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.639 I'm a little surprised that stories like this get told 265 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:52.879 because for the longest time, the conventional wisdom in the 266 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.840 world of comic books was that the quote unquote civilian 267 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.120 public could not handle things like multi verse variants and 268 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.279 that sort of thing. It was too complicated, it was 269 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.759 too nerdy, it was too offbeat. But you know, now 270 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.200 there's a whole TV series about a Spider Man variant 271 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:14.519 played by Nicholas Cage. Now, the Spider Verse was introduced 272 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:20.240 to the public in a series of animated films, and 273 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.759 Nicholas Cage played the Spider Noir character, or he voiced 274 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:29.559 the Spider Noir character in these films. But I remember 275 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.840 raising my eyebrow when I heard that he had been 276 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.639 cast in a live action version, because he is a 277 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.799 Spider Man character, and you know, Nicholas Cage is in 278 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.279 his sixties and looks at and I was like, how 279 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:47.080 is that gonna work? Bottom line is I actually don't 280 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.679 think it does. I was a little surprised because the 281 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:52.799 critics were kind of like pretty supportive of this when 282 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.879 it first came out. It was charming and worth your time, 283 00:14:55.960 --> 00:15:00.960 and everything, and it is charming, And I won't tell 284 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:04.559 you whether it's worth your time or not, because maybe 285 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.039 charm is all you're looking for. Maybe Nicholas Cage is 286 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.679 all you're looking for. Maybe Brendan Gleeson as a nineteen 287 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.399 thirties you know gangster, which there is a lot of 288 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.679 fun in watching him say things like superpowers with his 289 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:23.919 with his Irish accent. But it really didn't grab me. 290 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:24.519 Uh. 291 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:27.279 In fact, I didn't finish it, and I am a nerd, 292 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:32.639 but I don't, for one thing, I don't think this 293 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.240 version of the character is all that interesting. I don't 294 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.679 think putting Spider Man in a nineteen thirties and war 295 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.120 detective storyline, it just doesn't grab me. 296 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:44.200 I feel like sometimes it works for a comic book, 297 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:47.559 but not for a movie for live action. I will 298 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:48.080 say that. 299 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.080 The series looks amazing, and you have the option it's 300 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.120 on Prime video. You have the option of watching it 301 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:57.039 in black and white, are watching it in color? 302 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:58.440 And you did both. 303 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:01.639 I just think it's much more worth your time if 304 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.480 you're gonna do it, watch it in black and white. 305 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:03.840 It is. 306 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.600 It's a noir, it's meant to be, you know, a 307 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.240 classic film noir. So watching it in color, I'm like, 308 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.559 why would you do that? When you switch over to 309 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.559 black and white, it looks amazing. I have to admit 310 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.919 the sets, and I realize everything must be digital. There's 311 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:24.360 a whole like vistas of New York, you know, streets 312 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:27.279 in the nineteen thirties that simply do not exist in 313 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.279 the real world today. So I have to assume all 314 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.480 of that stuff was done digitally. But it's really well done. 315 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:35.080 But I have to say something here, and I think 316 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.639 this might be blesphemy for some people. I don't think 317 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:42.240 Nicholas Cage is all that great an actor. I just don't. 318 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:48.279 I think he's extremely charismatic. I think in his best roles, 319 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:53.639 in his biggest roles, he's extremely watchable. He makes very 320 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:58.480 interesting choices as an actor, very unexpected choices as an actor. 321 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.600 So you're always as of you wer like sort of 322 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:04.480 on you know, on on your toes a little bit 323 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.240 with him because you really don't know where he's going 324 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.599 to go, where he's going to take a scene. And 325 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.480 that's a great quality. That is a really great quality. 326 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:15.559 But that doesn't all that up. But you still have 327 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.599 to have, you know, I'm not going to trash Nicholas Cage, 328 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.440 who is beloved. I find his acting very stiff, very 329 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.240 men and not very realistic, so it always it tends 330 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.920 to take me out of things. Agree when he's playing 331 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:32.000 total freak shows and can really get his freak on, 332 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:35.759 he's he's much more watchable. But in this one he's 333 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:38.599 like this gum shoe detective and he's doing this sort 334 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.039 of Humphrey Bogart kind of thing, and it just it 335 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.359 sounds bad to me. It just sounds bad to me. 336 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.599 Then there is the issue of when he's doing his 337 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:53.480 Spider Man stuff. Clearly it's all digital and stuntman because 338 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:55.519 you know, it's a full face mask. You can't see 339 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:59.720 him at all, and that becomes a problem because Nicholas 340 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:02.880 Case moves like a man in his sixties when he's not, 341 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.480 you know, so it's just noticeable. It's very very not 342 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:09.759 It's sort of like watching Yoda in the in the 343 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.519 prequel movies, like suddenly flipping around and spinning all over 344 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:17.200 the place. It just doesn't look right. There's just this 345 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:21.680 disconnect between sixty two or three year old Nicholas Cage 346 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.720 and the superhero that's like flipping and bouncing all over 347 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.799 the city, and like the two you can't you can't 348 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.920 marry them. It becomes way too obvious that we're not 349 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.240 looking at Nicholas Cage. We're looking at either a stuntman 350 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:35.640 or a digital creation. 351 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:37.640 So that takes me out of it. 352 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:41.039 It does have a lot of charm, but I think 353 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.519 that's literally the only thing it does have, and sometimes 354 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:48.519 you're gagging on it. There's a way to do these 355 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:53.720 sort of retro stories, especially when you're injecting like fantasy 356 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:57.279 or super heroic elements or science fiction elements into it. 357 00:18:57.839 --> 00:18:58.759 There's a way to do that. 358 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:01.720 Like the old Agent Carter series that was on ABC 359 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.559 like ten years ago, was a melding of you know, 360 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:09.440 Marvel and classic nineteen forties adventure dramas. 361 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:10.880 You can do it. 362 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:15.839 It's possible, and I even think it's possible to do 363 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.799 a sort of Spider Noir ish Spider Man nineteen thirties 364 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:22.920 kind of take. But ultimately I think the concept and 365 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.440 the casting and the idea there's just too much that 366 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.920 the audience I can't speak for it. There's too much 367 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.880 for me to buy into. I'm like, all right, I 368 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:35.640 have to accept that there's a Spider Man detective in 369 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.839 the nineteen thirties. I have to accept that Nicholas Cage 370 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:44.279 is actually flipping around the city like that, and I 371 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:47.839 don't know the storyline. It's charming, there's a lot of 372 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:50.599 Easter eggs. If you know you're Spider Man continuity, there's 373 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:52.759 a lot of people that pop up names and everything 374 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.119 like that. But ultimately it's just I didn't I was 375 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.720 not grabbed by it. So that's my take on Spider Noir. 376 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.039 I would love to hear of any other nerds out 377 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.839 there watched it, finished it, liked it, hate me for 378 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.079 saying that Nicholas Cage is a bad after So I'd 379 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:09.079 love to hear your thoughts on that. 380 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:10.839 Yeah, I don't know much about it. Bear watch a 381 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.640 little bit of one episode with you, and I felt 382 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:14.079 the same way. I was like, wow, he looks old. 383 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.400 Oh and then he's jumping like crazy like jumping around 384 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:20.480 and I'm like, that doesn't work. But it did look beautiful. 385 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.920 It looks beautiful, and like I said, there's a lot 386 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.119 of charm in it, and I actually do like most 387 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.640 of the supporting cast, but I just, yeah, I can't 388 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.480 buy him in that role, and I don't think the 389 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.559 character is very interesting so no, I didn't finish it. Sorry, 390 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:41.160 but it wasn't for me. You finished I Will find You, 391 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.440 and I only sat in the background watching that piece 392 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:52.200 of garbage crap, youre crap. At a certain point you 393 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:54.200 watched it, so I'm going to turn the review over you. 394 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:57.359 But at a certain point some character was saying some 395 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:02.680 and it was the most the clumsy, most expositional dialogue, 396 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:06.279 where like I am explaining my relationship to you and 397 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:09.279 our entire history together and recapping what happened in the 398 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.599 last three apps. Like it's that kind of Netflix right 399 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:16.319 where they assume that you're not paying attention. There's a 400 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:18.400 lot of us and I just set out loud that 401 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:20.559