WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:07.639 S e O and JP Sorrow. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.679 He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:21.480 I never seen anything. 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.039 And it's the laps fan name by the one in 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:23.480 the ring. 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.160 Forget about Slado. He the real king of swing. 8 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:26.960 When the bell. 9 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.000 Goes in and the kick like me throwing in the corner. 10 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:31.280 But it's lash like stick. 11 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.719 Even Jerry King can sake off the crowd nodded in. 12 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:35.359 His head like it. 13 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.560 Steve low Brown, would you get low down? 14 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.200 Go even high up? Flipp you on your head? 15 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.960 But you know cool driver, you speak more now and 16 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.920 dragon spits fire give you more shock than when head 17 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.640 treats higher drop a more truth than the con of 18 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.359 sniper unless you would a coconut. 19 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.039 Roddy Piper, Jack a JP. 20 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.479 He like j y d drop the cupcakes and gold 21 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:58.799 the brain Bob means the best podcast Frost start the 22 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:02.200 close cloud if you all's plassic and pos So. 23 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:03.960 We've already kind of talked about it in our look 24 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.920 back at the remarkable career of sid. He kind of 25 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:09.439 disappeared in nineteen ninety seven. 26 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.280 From the WWF. Yes, yeah, it's very weird. 27 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:14.920 And we last we're with our hero here on our 28 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:19.040 tribute TLF style to Sid, who, of course we lost 29 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:22.920 this year. We had listened to the audio of him 30 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.079 dropping the WWF Championship to Undertaker at WrestleMania thirteen, which 31 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.560 of course was his second title run, and then after 32 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:31.079 that we hit you with the deep dive of his 33 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:35.079 winning the championship over Brettbart on the February seventeenth, nineteen 34 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:37.239 ninety seven Raw, and it just seemed like, all right, 35 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.920 Sid has now arrived. He's won the championship twice. He's 36 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.640 now a firmly ensconced main event player. He's going to 37 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.200 be around for a while, especially as WWFRE constitutes its 38 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.200 image and tries to go more attitudinal and features him 39 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.120 and things like the Raw is War opening package and 40 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.719 all of that. And then he's gone. And you were 41 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:55.319 really keen to point it out. I wasn't sure as 42 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.680 if we went you would forget this or not recall it. 43 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:59.920 But you remember the last time we saw Sid on 44 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.000 WWF television. 45 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.239 I do it, you know, because I, uh, just because 46 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:08.840 what happened for me was I It's not because I 47 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:12.039 remember it from being when I was watching back then. 48 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:17.479 It's rewatching the raws more recently within the last like 49 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.960 I don't know, probably eight eight, seven, eight years, whatever 50 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:26.479 it is, because I saw the show. You know, I'm 51 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.800 watching every war and then you know, he just vanishes 52 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.840 kind of after you know, I think he fast pay 53 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.039 per view was King of the Ring and then he's 54 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.159 just kind of gone. And then a few weeks later, 55 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:42.039 all of a sudden, he comes out as maybe Steve 56 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.800 Austin's one of Steve Austin's potential partners for Canadian Stampede, 57 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.879 and it was one of the most jarring things I'd 58 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:49.360 ever seen. 59 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:50.560 Tell me why, Tell me why? 60 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:55.280 Because you know, as a fan, I just kind of 61 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:57.759 accepted the fact that he was just gone, you know, 62 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:03.599 that he was gone whatever. And he disappeared after King 63 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:05.960 of the Ring and that was it, and so and 64 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.520 even then he was I don't think I remember him 65 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:11.000 being featured too much on TV, and so to see 66 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.599 him come out and not really do anything, it's just 67 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.120 an appearance, like his music hits and he comes out 68 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:21.520 and poses, but that's it, and then he's gone, and 69 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.599 that's kind of it. Like it's just a weird to me. 70 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:32.840 It's it's like it's like Vader being in in the 71 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:37.039 WW like way into ninety eight more than he should have, 72 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.080 right than I'm comfortable, right more than you know, because 73 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:43.280 you're like, are you serious? Like Vader was there and 74 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.719 it's like, wait, Sid was still there, Like what the fuck? 75 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:48.840 Right here, I am thinking that this was a big 76 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.000 enough impact player that if he did anything on WDWF 77 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.360 television I would remember, not there would be eight months 78 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.039 after my last memory of the guy where he was 79 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.280 actually still on television, right, And I definitely Sid fits 80 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.080 that category. But you know that justified tribute show in 81 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.960 Lapstom because you remember these things, of these these fleeting appearances. 82 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.000 There are so many other wrestlers I'm sure that made 83 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:10.719 appearances months after their last one and then disappeared into 84 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:12.759 the night that we never think about again. But for Sid, 85 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.040 it just seemed significant that he was missing. Was it 86 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.639 was a noticeable absence, and like you said, he sort 87 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:22.120 of popped his head back up one more time, very 88 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:23.959 and much the same way he did in nineteen ninety 89 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:27.519 six for the International Incident replacing Ultimate Warrior. Right here 90 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:29.720 is that are preparing a multi person a tag team 91 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.040 main event for in your house in July. The next year, 92 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.160 his name is in the sauce again for Team USA, 93 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.000 and I invite you to consider it because we've done 94 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.560 Canadian Stampede. It's of course one of the best WWF 95 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:42.439 pay per views of all time and so reflective of 96 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:47.000 what was going to happen, absolutely and what the reflective 97 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:48.759 of what was about to happen with Stone Cold taking 98 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.079 off is the unquestionable top man in the business and 99 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.240 the guy that would reverse the WWF's fortunes. But I 100 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.839 invite you to consider. I invite you to consider Psycho 101 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.000 sid being on Team USA at Canadian Stampede. 102 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.839 I don't know how I feel about that, right. 103 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:07.879 It kind of doesn't feel right like he feels because 104 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.399 he's not someone I mean, not that Austin is either. 105 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.879 But Austin's feud wasn't really about Canada versus the USA. 106 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.439 He was just he was just picking on the hearts. 107 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:22.720 But like l od theyre USA, you know, Chicago, you 108 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:29.319 know the whole fucking thing, Shamrock. 109 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:29.759 And gold Dust. 110 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:30.800 Who was it was? 111 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:32.600 Who Ken Shamrock and gold Dust? 112 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.879 Ken Shamrock. Yeah, I guess I can kind of see 113 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:38.920 that gold Dust. I can't really see although he's Hollywood, 114 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.759 So I don't know, but he's definitely a stretch, But 115 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.399 I think more of a stretch would be said, because 116 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:48.399 he's a fucking loner, you know, that's his thing. 117 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.079 Yep, yep, And whatever you try to place him in 118 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.199 a group or a stable or in a bodyguard position, 119 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.160 eventually he'll find a way to break out of that 120 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.439 and it'll be someone's bright idea to give him a 121 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.319 singles run toward the war title. And that's just name 122 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.160 the organization he's ever been put into a tag team 123 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:03.800 or a group scenario with. But I don't know. It's 124 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.279 just it's such a significant landmark show in that team, 125 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.439 as bizarre and motley crue as it was supporting Steve 126 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.600 Austin at Canadian Stampede is so kind of burned in 127 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.720 the memory and in the history that it's wild to 128 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.279 think about SID being in there and how that might 129 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.800 disrupt the dynamic, because the one thing you can say 130 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.839 about Team USA at Canadian Stampede is Steve Austin was 131 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.199 by far and away the brightest shining star in the. 132 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:24.639 Bid Fay side, no question. 133 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:26.680 But if SID was there, I wonder if that dilutes 134 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.199 the intensity in the real sort of concentration of energy 135 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:32.519 into what Steve Austin was doing. 136 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:42.000 I don't know, I maybe, but I do feel like Stone. 137 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.120 I feel like Austin at that point was such a 138 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:50.600 fucking a spark plug that he would not have allowed 139 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:55.680 Sid to overshadow him. Yeah, you know, like I think 140 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:57.839 he would have. Fucking I think he would have. He 141 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.160 would have found holes in Sid and fucking exploited them. 142 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:02.879 And if there's one thing we've learned about Sid by 143 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.560 this point in his wrestling career is he's not going 144 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.279 to stick around very long if he doesn't get the 145 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.360 impression that he's not authoring, sort of like the gait, 146 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:12.920 He's not somebody that can lay claim to drawing the house. 147 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.079 Even if WWF is struggling, so to speak, not so much. 148 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.160 I mean, the ticket sales aren't great, but they're nowhere 149 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.360 near where they were ninety five and into ninety six, 150 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:23.000 come nineteen ninety seven. But still the television ratings, as 151 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.240 we've documented so many times, including that raw where he 152 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.920 won the title, just so impossibly far away from Nitro 153 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.680 that it just seems like it's a feutal effort. They 154 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.800 might as well just stop trying on Monday nights, and 155 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.120 for Sid, you know, when he looks around and he's 156 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.680 being put in a scenario where he doesn't feel like 157 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.639 he's a single guy that can draw the house and 158 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:42.639 take credit for the house and call himself a draw, 159 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.439 that means something to him. That's kind of sure to 160 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.120 hear him talk about his career that ended up being 161 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:49.600 why he was in the business. Of course, it's it's 162 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.839 mostly about money, but for him, like if he's not 163 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.160 able to lay claim to filling a house, then he's 164 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:56.759 not going to be able to maximize the amount of 165 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.279 money he can make. He's he said, before, you know, 166 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.079 I've been I've been in this business in such a 167 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.360 way where I'm making a lot of money but not 168 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.879 drawing a lot of people, and it just doesn't satisfy me. 169 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:06.839 Mmm. 170 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.959 It just doesn't give me what I come to really 171 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.720 want out of pro wrestlers, which is really interesting considering 172 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:15.800 the movie he's about to make, which of course completely 173 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:19.759 subverts that notion. But it's what I think what he 174 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.759 basically means is when he's been in WWF, he's he's 175 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.920 slotted as somebody that can that can be somebody who 176 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.639 is associated with the main event such that you can say, 177 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:32.519 you know, Sid made evented this show, so this business 178 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.480 has something to do with him. In WCW. In the 179 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:37.320 second run too, to a large degree, it was always 180 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:38.440 so muddled, like. 181 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:40.600 Was it Sid? Yep? 182 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.080 Sure Sid was in the main event, but the guy 183 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.000 he wrestled had a million other people he was feuding with, 184 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.960 and this match thread through, you know, Sting versus the Horsemen, 185 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:51.000 whatever the case may be. When you go back to 186 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:52.679 that Halloween havoc that he that he headlined for the 187 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.639 first time. So it's it's not a surprise. I don't 188 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:57.600 think that if what they have creatively for Sid is 189 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.759 that he's going to join a Team USA with somebody 190 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.399 else the helm that he's gonna it's gonna get a 191 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:04.440 bad taste in his mouth about it. Now, what's great 192 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.919 about a tribute show is we picked subjects where, like 193 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.759 you said, there's this nagging curiosity like what the hell 194 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:13.200 happened to said in nineteen ninety seven he went from 195 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.279 mainaventing WrestleMania to m hmm, completely disappearing. And you know, 196 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.840 unless you do kind of a close examination of what 197 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.240 he said about his career and what was said contemporaneously, 198 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.080 you don't really understand where he went and why he 199 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:25.600 only popped his head up a couple more times in 200 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.159 nineteen ninety seven. Right, but I think in our next 201 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.320 chapter here in the Sid Tribute, it's time to do that, boss. 202 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:31.519 Oh please. 203 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.120 It's really wild how he does so little on WWF 204 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.879 television for Russelemnia thirteen too the summer, but how much 205 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:39.840 actually happens behind the scenes with him. 206 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:41.480 I love it, just you. 207 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.399 Know so many further variations on the theme of oh, 208 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.559 Sid's getting another opportunistic injury, A cinek might say, you. 209 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.159 Know, you know here, this is what I picture too, Okay, 210 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.879 of course I picture him. You know, he's back. You 211 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.399 know he comes to TV every week whether or not. 212 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:00.519 No he doesn't. He certainly doesn't. He's not to go 213 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.759 to TV, but he does it on his own. He 214 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.759 feels like, you know, he he he chooses to go. 215 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.679 I will be at the TV that you don't tell 216 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:09.440 me to be at. 217 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.759 Right, right, Sid, Look, Powet, we don't need you to 218 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.519 be at TV. I'll be there on time, but I 219 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.840 believe it. With bells on, yep. And I just picture him, 220 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.240 you know, I picture him just kind of like coming 221 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.639 in there with with his his roller bag, and he's 222 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:33.639 wearing jeans like a tucked in a short sleeve you know, 223 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.960 plaid shirt all right, and he's wearing a baseball hat yep. 224 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.759 And he's kind of like walks in like he owns 225 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.519 the fucking place, doesn't talk to anybody, just fucking walks in. 226 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.360 But people are like, what the fuck is I supposed 227 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:48.080 to be here? Right? 228 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.639 He's not supposed to be here, right, and sid walks 229 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.240 in with the look of somebody that's oblivious to that, 230 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.759 but deep down he's excited to have a fight about it. 231 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:58.399 Yes, yes, exactly. 232 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:00.879 It is someone who acts like he wants to avoid arguments, 233 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:05.240 but he can't survive without getting into a little verbal 234 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.759 tussle with people on the regular. That's his whole strategy, honestly. 235 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.639 You know when when when he feels like his position 236 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.559 on the card isn't going to be one that it's 237 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.519 going to let him take credit for houses and maximize income, 238 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.080 particularly in the WWF you know pay system, where your 239 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.679 position on the card really does impact your your take 240 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.519 home before everyone had the guaranteed deals downsideals, he's looking 241 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:28.679 at this landscape and he's like, no, Nope. You know, 242 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:30.840 if I'm not, if I'm taking a step down from 243 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.039 the main event, something's going to go wrong. I'm going 244 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.080 to force an argument. I'm going to force myself to 245 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.919 take exception with something I'm pitched creatively, and I'm gonna 246 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:40.519 be gone. It goes back to the Crusher quitting every 247 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:42.879 summer so we can take the take the summer off, 248 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.519 having an argument with verne Gana and over the years you're, Okay, 249 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:48.600 he's just gonna do this because he wants an excuse 250 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.080 to not have to work the summer. I get it, 251 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.080 and would see it. It was it was injuries and he 252 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.440 always you know. The best thing is like he says, 253 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:57.840 ask hardcore Hally about the nineteen ninety five neck injury, 254 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.720 and then you read Rli's book and he's like, yeah, 255 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.960 is lying. It's like I asked, I asked him Sid, 256 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.600 and the answer isn't exactly. 257 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:08.879 What you're anticipating. How do you know he's not lying? 258 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:10.639 Sid thought he had alibis. 259 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:19.240 I do have alibis. I have many buys people by 260 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:23.159 shows for me right because I'm Sid. 261 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.080 I have many buys. By the way, have we gotten 262 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:30.200 the the returns in from WrestleMania yet, Yes, the least 263 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.799 bought WrestleMania of all time. I would introduce you to 264 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.519 the WrestleMania you headlined that couldn't even beat w c 265 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.960 W one censored WrestleMania. 266 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:40.679 Yeah. 267 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.399 Sid was a big draw man. He knew how to draw. 268 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.399 That's one thing you can say about him. No, that's 269 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.799 one thing you can say about him. You can say 270 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:49.320 a lot of things about the guy, and that's why 271 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:51.000 you're paying tribute to him, But that's one thing you 272 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:52.960 cannot say about him, that he was a draw. 273 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:54.639 That's so incredible. 274 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:57.639 Ye, And we'll get more into that as we go here. 275 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:01.840 But again, there are so many things happening, because if 276 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.799 you recall after WRESTLMINGI thirteen for the April show in 277 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:06.559 your house show. 278 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:10.440 And that was what one was that that was holding 279 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:12.720 and hell's me Revenge of the Taker. 280 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:16.480 Revenge of the Taker. And do you remember, of course 281 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:19.320 that's a Brett Steve Austin rematch. Yes, we talked about 282 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:21.600 that in the nineteen ninety seven journey available in the archives. 283 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:23.600 But yes, do you recall that. 284 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.440 At first it was to be Brett versus Sid at 285 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:31.159 Revenge of the Taker. No, ladies, and gentlemen, I didn't 286 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.679 know that. Consider a world where Brett comes off the 287 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.679 win over Steve Austin and the famous post match angle 288 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.480 at wrestlming He thirteen, Sid comes off the loss to Undertaker, 289 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.960 and Sid and Brett interfewed. Not Austin and Brett. 290 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:48.960 Well, I mean, you know, in a weird way, it 291 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.840 would make a little bit of sense. Although you know, 292 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:53.200 here's the thing. This is the thing about that while 293 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:58.279 while I don't I can see that as being, yes, 294 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.919 a thing, But what I would what I would think 295 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:06.000 would happen, is that Brett would face Sid and Austin 296 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:10.320 would cause Brett to lose in some fashion. 297 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:13.159 Oh, certainly Austin wouldn't exit the picture. But the idea 298 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.200 of going right back to the match and what that 299 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.919 meant for the trajectory of Brett and Austin in nineteen 300 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:20.480 ninety seven would have been totally different. 301 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.080 If I mean, maybe, you know, I don't really think 302 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:26.320 of that match as being a thing that really did 303 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.519 much to their feud. Yeah, that you know the I mean, listen, 304 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.840 I agree like the fact that they had a rubber match, 305 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.759 although it wasn't really rubber match because Austin lost both 306 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:38.480 but I think. 307 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.039 I'm getting is the reason you don't think of that 308 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:41.879 as a big landmark part of the feud is because 309 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:43.080 it wasn't in the plants. 310 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:44.679 Yeah, yeah, that's true. 311 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.960 It was cobbled together because Sid fell off the card. 312 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.799 They had even promoted it a couple of times on 313 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.399 television that Brett and Sid was going to be a 314 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.799 match on this show. But I just think when we 315 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.639 when we construct the Steve Austin Breheart story from Survivors 316 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.039 series ninety six all the way through ninety seven, Yeah, 317 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.480 this is a this is a part that if you 318 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.759 switched out this match, you'd wonder, like second third order effects, 319 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.480 how that might differently affect the way these two developed. 320 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.200 Because the fact of the matter is after Revenge of 321 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.159 the Taker they had clashed again, Brett and Austin had 322 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.120 gotten their hands on each other again after the blood 323 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.360 bath at WrestleMania, and if that had been delayed two 324 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:21.039 three four months, you wonder how differently it would have 325 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.519 felt when Austin just kept pouring it on as opposed 326 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:24.559 to getting back into the ring. 327 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:24.799 With the man. 328 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:31.080 But that's another example and a motif that's developing as 329 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.440 we go through Sid's career of a guy who is 330 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.679 sort of like in the background, and his little maneuvers 331 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.879 are having a big impact not on his ability to 332 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.080 draw money, but on the programs that do end up 333 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.679 drawing money, and the wrestlers who do draw money end 334 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:46.519 up in the positions they ended up in because of 335 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.639 Sid's many decisions and pivots. So it's a rather rich 336 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.159 year of nineteen ninety seven, though just sitting home watching 337 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.799 wrestling television every week, you would not know it as 338 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.879 it regards Sid and the moves he's about to make. 339 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.480 As the Attitude Era is about to begin, and we're 340 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.519 dawning on another holiday season around here, Boss, Am I 341 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:05.360 wrong about? 342 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:10.639 The halls are decked, the the atmospheres where it should be. 343 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:16.440 You know, it's a it's a it's a downer of 344 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.639 a beginning of the season. So it's, uh, you know, 345 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.600 we we need something, We need something to kind of 346 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:27.360 pick up our pick up our spirits. So we decorated 347 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:31.440 way early this year, uh, for Christmas, and it's it's 348 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.519 feeling wonderful the way it should be. 349 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.879 And we're coming off the conclusion of the Mighty tlf 350 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:42.240 X games. Yes, we are as lapsed Vince as most 351 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.200 of the smart money would have predicted on the front end, 352 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:47.960 but you know, subjected to a fair, open and empirical vote. 353 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.559 I do wonder. I do wonder this. I do wonder 354 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.799 if Hogan, if Hogan had been on the other the 355 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.799 other side, Yep, I think that would have been a 356 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:01.360 very very that would have been a closer, because I'm 357 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:05.920 pretty sure if if you did have Hogan and Vince 358 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:10.119 on opposite sides, it would have been kind of easy 359 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:11.880 money that that's going to be the main event. 360 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:13.920 I think it's going to be the main event. But 361 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.599 let's not forget the people had their chance to vote 362 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.400 on Vince versus Hogan and it wasn't even close. 363 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.680 No, I know, but I think when it comes to 364 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.359 but it's not the finals though, yeah, you know, like 365 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.160 if it was the finals. 366 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:27.519 I think Vince crushes him by the same margin if 367 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:28.240 no kidding. 368 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:30.319 Interesting, I don't know, I'm not sure. I think the 369 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:34.119 finals mean a different thing. I mean, I think, you know, 370 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:35.480 I don't know. I think it would have been I 371 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:36.799 think it would have been a different ballgame. 372 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.200 Very interesting, And you know, weigh in with your thoughts. 373 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:41.359 The lapsed fan at gmail dot com. Let's just say, 374 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:43.799 Santa's mail sack is swelling quite a bit as we 375 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.000 head into the holiday season, so if. 376 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.319 He does have he has two mail sacks. 377 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:50.359 Actually, Santa's gonna have to sit down and get through 378 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:52.759 a lot of letters from young boys and girls, I 379 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.480 think before he takes off on Christmas Eve. So oh, 380 00:17:57.559 --> 00:17:59.400 let us know all about your thoughts on the King 381 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.960 of the Caste. It started with thirty two participants and 382 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.400 we want to send our great appreciation to Russ and 383 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:07.359 so many members of the Solar System who will make 384 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.359 this such a fun way to celebrate ten years of lapstom. 385 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:14.039 It of course came down to lapsed Vince and lapse Nash. 386 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:17.240 And on the day where we elected our next president, 387 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:22.079 Vince McMahon is elected King of the cast Now you 388 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.839 tell me that there's not something larger going on there. 389 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.519 Just from a timing standpoint, we certainly did not plan this, 390 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:32.880 and all of a sudden, right before us lay an allegory, 391 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:33.799 if you will. 392 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:40.119 It was yeah, yeah, it actually you know it when 393 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:42.000 it kind of came, when it kind of came to be, 394 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:47.640 I felt kind of like, um, wait a minute here, 395 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:49.839 like this feels actually maybe a little wrong. 396 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.599 Is Vince about to take the victory podium at a 397 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:55.759 time when someone else is about to take the victory podium. 398 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.359 That's going to replace the US attorney that's running the 399 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:04.960 DOJ investigation into Vince McMahon, and we'll probably kill it 400 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:05.759 where it stands. 401 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:10.279 I believe that I have. I believe that I've elected 402 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:17.920 myself president, and that's how I roll. It's gonna be 403 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:22.039 the United States of Vince McMahon, the US. 404 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:22.240 V M. 405 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:26.480 Linda for Commerce Secretary. 406 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.400 Yes, yes, definitely something of that nature. 407 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:34.599 Because you guys know about commerce, after all. 408 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:38.359 Well we we you know, we are commercial enterprise, so 409 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:42.799 we know commerce. We know you know, we believe in uh, 410 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:55.599 consumers better and and consumer motivation as well as any 411 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:02.279 number of of you know, different you know, dynamic metrics 412 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:07.279 of them, of corporate and business and monetary nature. 413 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:17.000 This American work period, period period. I don't think much 414 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.960 more needs to be said. Lapsed. Vince crowned King of 415 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.839 the cast on election day twenty twenty four, and again 416 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.279 great thanks to everyone who helped make it possible, everyone 417 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.279 who voted and participated, and I think it all ended 418 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:32.000 up where we thought it would. It's one of those 419 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.960 things where you tell yourself that the reality might not 420 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.559 be what it appears to be, and then of course 421 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:39.559 it was. Of course it was all along. Did you 422 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.720 think Jesse had a chance, did you think anyone did 423 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:43.359 you expect lapse on Ash to be there? 424 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:49.839 I listen, it went down to It went down pretty 425 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:52.880 much how I envisioned it would when I kind of 426 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.279 played it out in my in my brain when the 427 00:20:55.279 --> 00:21:02.519 brackets were first released, I said, it's I thought there 428 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:12.000 were possibilities that you know that that Hogan or Vince, 429 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:14.079 you know that that to me, what could have been 430 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:18.119 a toss up? Same thing with Jesse Nash. But I 431 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:20.240 figured it was either going to be Did you call 432 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:22.799 Jesse early? I did call Jesse early on, but I 433 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:25.200 did think to myself, like, it's going to be one 434 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.599 of those two either way. I don't know who will 435 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:30.519 come out on top if it's Nash and Jesse, but 436 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:35.279 I knew it would be one of those two guys. 437 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:36.880 At the end, I did think about it might have 438 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.119 been Jesse, but there's always you know, Nash is always 439 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:41.519 kind of lurking in the back. 440 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.759 Amazing, amazing stuff. It was great that someone that was 441 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.200 inserted late in the process after the first draft of 442 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:50.559 the Brackening was done and lapsed. Heel and Heart made 443 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:54.160 it all the way to the final four with the 444 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:57.799 solar systems Yep, yep, speaking up for what needs to 445 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:01.000 be spoken for. And another character that you thought, you know, 446 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.440 because they are your favorites, they're somebody else's favorites. You 447 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.519 realize that that's not how the country runs. Yeah, that's right, 448 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.440 people like Vince always end up winning. That's really not 449 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:12.640 more complicated than that. 450 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:19.079 Because here's the thing. I'm untouchable, and why are you untouchable? 451 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:25.480 Because I am a master of things. Okay, I'm a 452 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:32.839 creator of things. I help the economic machine. 453 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.279 Any chance, Vince, after all these all these blemishes on 454 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:39.680 your name, all these actions against your person and your 455 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.960 reputation fall by the wayside, what at a time, and 456 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.559 things get settled and wallpapered over and dropped cold, any 457 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.720 chance you walk back out there onto that stage and 458 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:49.400 let everybody know what you think of them once and 459 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:53.599 for all. Does TKO need to prepare? Does Mark Shapiro 460 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:58.039 and others not Mark Shapiro triple h I'm talking about now, 461 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.440 I'm talking about the h the TKO boardroom. 462 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:10.279 You know, Look, I am a white billionaire. 463 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.319 Okay, Mark Schapiro said he just had lunch with you, 464 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.000 that it wasn't anything more than that. I thought it 465 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.279 was strange that after what happened, I let me tell 466 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:20.839 you this, all right, the ballot box that he came 467 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:22.160 out and said that. But yeah, I just want to 468 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:23.000 about what you thought about it. 469 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:30.039 You've got TKO, all right, you got t KO sooner 470 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:36.240 than later that company is going to be called VKM. Yeah, 471 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:41.160 that because that's who runs the ship. 472 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.119 Have we only just begat? Who have we only just begun? 473 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:46.640 Makes the decisions? 474 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.319 What's going to happen to triple H? 475 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:55.559 Triple H? I mean, you know, there are there are 476 00:23:55.640 --> 00:24:00.119 times when you see your children who are progressing in 477 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.200 a way that you're like, yes, you know this is 478 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:04.559 a pot you know this is good, this is good. 479 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:08.640 And then you know, sometimes they start to make wrong decisions. 480 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.680 Then that means they have to die. 481 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:19.400 So you're saying, you're Jared Kushner isn't going to be 482 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.559 part of your your administration. 483 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:27.519 I will say, And when Daddy is back at the 484 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:31.240 head of the table, huh, the real head of the table, 485 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.279 there's going to be a rearranging of the chairs. 486 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.680 And Stephanie and Ivanka and Jared and Paul are going 487 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.480 to find themselves having an awful lot in common something I'm. 488 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:47.839 Going to find myself's new children, new children who understand 489 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:53.920 that my decision is always the best one. My decision 490 00:24:55.480 --> 00:25:04.079 is the way things need to be. My decision is 491 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.079 for America. 492 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.039 So I hope your disposition as is as sunny as 493 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:13.039 ours is. As we salute the folks that help make 494 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.359 the TLFX Games not only so fun but poetic. At 495 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.720 the end of the day, is all things lapsed always 496 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.119 somehow end up being And we want to expressly think 497 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:27.799 Garage Beer, who have been tremendous partners and sponsoring everything 498 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.519 we've done along the course of the TLFX Games tournament 499 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:34.480 and proudly ascribing their name to the tournament to determine 500 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.839 the greatest character in the history of well, if you 501 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:40.759 ask some folks, the greatest wrestling pod there's ever been, 502 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.160 what you know about it? 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Truly, we very much thank them for their partnership. 552 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.359 As we start thinking about what to put under the tree, 553 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.519 I think we're already worried, boss about where to put 554 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:14.599 the stuff we've already gotten. 555 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.319 Oh my goodness, I don't even know where to begin. 556 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.559 We are joining you here on this lapse tribute show 557 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.240 to sid this regular main feed show, if you will, 558 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:28.759 for the first time since gathering around the aforementioned sorrow hearth, Yes, 559 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.000 for the twenty twenty four TLF Christmas Show taping. We 560 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.000 know what you have done. We've taken stock, we know 561 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.119 what it has done to us. We've taken inventory, we've 562 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.400 seen it all, we've recorded it all. Of course, it's 563 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.759 going to be a doozy of course, yes, you know 564 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.160 what podcast as you locked down with the appropriate holiday 565 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.279 spirit this year, and we can't wait too unload it 566 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.680 on the Solar System and much the fashion that we 567 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.920 did last year. But suffice to say, we sat there 568 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.480 as if someone had shot us in the head in 569 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.799 our comfy sofa chairs, with all of the generosity of 570 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.359 the Solar System and the creativity of the Solar system 571 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.319 and the tenderness and thoughtfulness of the of the Solar 572 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.640 system resting at our very feet next to the fire 573 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:21.039 and Boss. I don't know if people deserve what we're 574 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:22.000 about to unload on them. 575 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:28.640 I mean, it's something, you know. The people who gave gifts, 576 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.759 they know what they gave and they know, you know. 577 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.599 But when you put it all together, when you put 578 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.480 everything together, when you put the setting, when you put 579 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:48.359 in the uh, you know, the unscripted nature of things. Yes, 580 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:54.599 you know that is our show. There is a it's 581 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:58.519 it's a really it's a crazy motherfucking thing. It is 582 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.960 a crazy motherfucking thing. And you guys are going to 583 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:07.960 be I imagine you're going to be pleased, surprised, and maybe, 584 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.160 I don't know, maybe mortified too. 585 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.599 We did what had to be done. You in the 586 00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:16.000 Solar system who sent gifts, did what had to be done, 587 00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.519 and it's a smashing, smashing success. That's all I can say. 588 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.319 That's all I can promise here as we celebrate ten 589 00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:29.039 years of Lapsed with our upcoming our third unwrapping Yes 590 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:31.720 coming in December to the main feeds. 591 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:47.759 The Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast the wrestling podcast that knows 592 00:30:47.799 --> 00:31:05.880 the boys need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's 593 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:11.000 a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and and JP Soro. 594 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.839 Having just done that, having just gathered together as we 595 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.279 love to do around this time of year, it being 596 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.680 fresh in our minds, it's just impossible not to to 597 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.640 give some voice too. How that all left us feeling. 598 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.839 And let me tell you, folks, and you'll hear it 599 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.400 during the show. We've got to figure out a plan here. 600 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.440 We've got to figure out a plan because I don't 601 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.720 know if you think we live in four hundred thousand 602 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.559 square foot mansions or what, but I know there aren't 603 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.839 enough storage lockers in the county to account for the 604 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:50.240 excess that's rained down upon us. Not a clue what 605 00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.160 to do with most of it. So appreciative that people 606 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.680 took the time, but my goodness, I don't know. It 607 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.559 might be we might have to start talking about regifting 608 00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:57.960 around here. 609 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.839 Boss, I will sell it. I think that might be, 610 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.000 uh might be something that needs to be done. It's 611 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:09.359 it's such a I mean, I wish I wish people 612 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:14.440 could have seen the atomic bomb that went off in 613 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.359 my my you know, family room. 614 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:20.759 Well, they'll they'll get a taste on our socials because 615 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.440 we were we were active with the photography or in 616 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.480 the course of this thing. But it's there's no substitute 617 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.000 for standing in that room and just seeing the paper 618 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.720 and the refuse and the and seeing the pain, seeing 619 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:35.480 the pain. You know, you said to yourself, all right, 620 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.759 there's this many boxes that have come to the post office. 621 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.599 This is great, there's this many gifts. No, you open 622 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.960 the box, there's sixteen things in there. 623 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:45.720 I know. That's that's that's the thing. You know, you 624 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.920 kind of forget. It's not just one thing in a box. 625 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.240 It's a lot of things in a box. 626 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.720 It's postmodernism in a box. You're damn fucking right now. 627 00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.839 It's gonna be a TLFX. Miss you already know what 628 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.240 it is, and you know where to be, and you 629 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.319 know to pour a tall glass of eggnog. 630 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:05.559 Before you do it. 631 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:10.640 Yeah, oh yes, coming your way tlf twenty twenty four 632 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:17.200 Christmas Show and also coming your way, the conclusion of 633 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.799 the epic TLFX defining Carnies are Forever Journey under the sinning. 634 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.279 Yes, got two more left, two more left? All right? 635 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:34.720 We have we have of course, invaded the Daniel Craig 636 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.680 era of the Bond, the most recent era of Bond. 637 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.079 I mean, I want you to know something, you know 638 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:46.920 we're going. I can't. I'm not sure. I don't know 639 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.359 if we've ever gone this close to Like I'm trying 640 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.160 to think of a movie that we saw we would 641 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.799 have done cinemat that was very very close, only within 642 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.119 a couple of years of lease from when we did it. 643 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.519 You know, I think this might be the closest. 644 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:10.360 Yeah, this is getting very close. I mean because Terrifier too, Yeah, 645 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:11.320 Terrified too, was it? 646 00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.599 For sure? Terrify two? For sure. That's a good point. 647 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.880 I didn't even think about that. That's just because reason 648 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.360 I'm trying to take that on my mind, because that 649 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.199 was last year. Yeah, right, so but uh yeah, like 650 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.960 it's kind of I guess maybe what's so interesting to 651 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.880 me is the fact that you know, we've gone from 652 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.000 way in the past, We've gone from the sixties all 653 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:33.880 the way to now and uh yeah, we've got two 654 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:38.400 more left and uh you know we close out this 655 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:45.320 uh this wild and unpredictable. And I mean, if if 656 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.440 if you like, if you like movies, if you're a 657 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.639 James Bond fan and you're not signed up for cinemat 658 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.360 I'm telling you what what happened was. First of all, 659 00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.440 there are so many wrestlers that have been redisc covered 660 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:07.360 I'll say that rediscovered within this journey. And also, it's 661 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.400 not just the story of Bond, it's the story of individuals. Yes, 662 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.159 it's the story. I mean, there are so many players 663 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.440 in and there have been so many threads that have 664 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:24.199 been told over the course of this series that even 665 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:28.280 I wasn't expecting. I had no idea, like the certain areas, 666 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:29.960 I had no idea we were going to be telling 667 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:36.280 basically talk about the downfall of MGM Studios. I had 668 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.039 no idea that we're going to be doing that, right. 669 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.239 I had no idea that, you know, there would be 670 00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:46.320 this guy Kevin mclory who would end up being a 671 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:51.039 thorn in everybody's side, and you know, and watching the 672 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:53.599 rise and fall, and I never I'll tell you what 673 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:59.480 I never. I never thought that I would find Roger 674 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.880 Moore to the most fascinating individual of all time. 675 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.960 It's it's so full of revelations. As someone who's not 676 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.199 a cinophile, sitting in the spectator seat, sitting in the 677 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.519 passenger seat as boss Man drives the flip side of 678 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.440 what your custom to here in the main show. I 679 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.800 am just so amazed at how interested I find myself 680 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:20.239 in the minutia of these films and franchises. And it's 681 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.679 not just the wrestler, as I suspected when we started 682 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.159 under the Cinemat all those years ago, that draws me in, 683 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.480 but it's equal parts. Just the way the dramas of 684 00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.360 Hollywood echo the dramas of wrestling exactly back a certain 685 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.480 amount of time, there's no difference. You know, you talk 686 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.760 about Cauliflower Alley Club and you talk about the heritage 687 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.280 of wrestlers kind of sharing the same fraternity towards the 688 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:43.679 turn of the century with actors. 689 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:45.480 Yep, it becomes. 690 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.920 Really fascinating to think about how closely intertwined they were. 691 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:53.039 It's it's it's two p's of the same pod, yeah, 692 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.360 for sure. And that pot is under the Cinemat, good 693 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.719 damn right, And it's available for the Executive Producer tier 694 00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.920 and above. Over at patreon dot com slash the Lapsed Fan, 695 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.000 where you prove you're either just along for the ride 696 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.920 or you're helping to author what we've been doing for 697 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:11.320 ten years. Take the pride of ownership. That's where we're headed, folks. 698 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.599 If you don't own something, no one takes you seriously. 699 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.840 So have some ownership stakes in this cast by putting 700 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.880 fuel into the engine instead of just standing on the 701 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.159 side of the road with your arms folded expecting everything 702 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.440 to operate perfectly without you having to lift a finger. 703 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:26.199 Not up, not up. 704 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.000 And it's not like we don't give you something in return. 705 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.559 We give you the smash hit under the cinemat. So 706 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.480 many critically acclaimed things coming in on this Bond series 707 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.320 and all just kicked it into a new gear this year. Frankly, 708 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.960 I mean, scary movie season was phenomenal. Christmas movie season 709 00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:44.159 is coming up. There really isn't a better time of years. 710 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.000 It's we get some some great stuff for Christmas movie season. 711 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.719 Well maybe not great stuff, but it's gonna be fun. 712 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.199 Great, great in the way that we've accustomed you to 713 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:55.760 think of great. 714 00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:57.679 Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. 715 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.480 And and there aren't tallmount we shy away from climbing either, 716 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.159 but the small mountains can be equal parts. Is fun 717 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:05.960 just as your accustomed to on the main feed. You 718 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.960 know how it goes the shows that you care least 719 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.719 about are some of the most revered TLF episodes. 720 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:17.440 I mean every every every show has a story that's right, 721 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.199 no matter how big, no matter how small. 722 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.079 We don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck. 723 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.039 Bring any set of facts to us and we'll put 724 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.480 it through the process and you'll be glad we did. 725 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.719 And that is doubly the case. Over at patreon dot com, 726 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.280 Slash the Lapsed Fan were not only do you get 727 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.840 under the cinemat but if you have the courage and 728 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.079 the resources to join that tip top mote tier, the 729 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.039 premiere select Group, our ride or dies, as I like 730 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:42.840 to say, the folks that are like, not only is 731 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.199 what you guys do good and worthy of money, but 732 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.559 you know I want to be I want to be 733 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:51.400 in the infantry with you guys. You know I want 734 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.079 to I want to be next to you holding a 735 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:58.679 rifle as you do what it takes to survive in this. 736 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.400 Podcast, want to be on the front line, in the 737 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:00.880 front lines. 738 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.480 When you think about it, you think about how much 739 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.960 of a cliche it became in recent years. Everybody is 740 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.360 a podcast. Everybody is a podcast. It doesn't mean anything 741 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.280 to have a podcast. Well, over here, it does. 742 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:10.320 Yes, it does. 743 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:11.239 Over here, it does. 744 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.679 Want to tell you what this is the difference though, Okay, yeah, 745 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:19.840 you know what, Everyone can have a fucking podcast. You're 746 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.599 absolutely right, every're gonna have a fucking podcast. But I'll 747 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.199 tell you what. It doesn't matter that you have a podcast. 748 00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.239 It matters what you do with the podcast and go 749 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.320 all right, And there are a lot of fucking ham 750 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.000 and eggers out there who just have one. And you 751 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.920 know they Number one, two, things will happen, Okay, either 752 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:43.159 they're either they're gonna they're gonna stop because they they 753 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:48.119 they nothing happens fast enough, which is always bullshit to 754 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:52.519 begin with. All right, nothing ever happens fast. Okay. Number two, 755 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.760 they you know, they become guest reliant and they can't 756 00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:00.639 find guests, and then you're gonna fail, all right, and 757 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.599 you're gonna quit because you don't put the work in 758 00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:07.480 the actual work, and the actual work is hard shit. Yes, 759 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.119 it's time consuming. Yes, it's stressful. 760 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.599 Because you did a podcast because you think it would 761 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.239 be cool to have a podcast, not because you must 762 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.000 have a podcast. We must have a podcast. Yes, we've 763 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.920 been told this for too many years, even before we 764 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.920 started the show, and it might not have been a 765 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:27.719 podcast per se that they were calling for, but folks knew, 766 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.519 Folks who observed the dynamic knew that there was a 767 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.079 community for this stuff. And the proof points just keep 768 00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:39.639 flowing in year after year, incremental by incremental. The returns 769 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.400 are in, and the returns are looking decidedly positive. And 770 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:44.719 so patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan is where 771 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.760 to go to prove that you're worth the shit in 772 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.920 a world where unless you're coming out of pocket, you 773 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:51.840 you barely exist. 774 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:52.599 Yep. 775 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.639 And we don't write the rules, but we certainly play 776 00:40:56.679 --> 00:41:00.960 by them. And the mote tier, as mentioned, not only 777 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.840 do you get that extra panache from your co chair 778 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.559 is not only are your nearest and dearest to our 779 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.639 heart when we're thinking about special events and things that 780 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.960 we want to make exclusive to you folks out there 781 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.320 in the Solar system, exclusive access to your co chairman. 782 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.880 Like our phone calls between each other when a wrestler 783 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.920 passes away, that's mode only. Also mode only, it's getting 784 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:22.000 on the living room carpet with Mama sorrow ah yes, 785 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.880 and watching the matches of your and just hearing a voice. 786 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.119 It's really like it's as if you had an Alexa 787 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:33.280 in your house that's downloaded. Yep, what every mom and 788 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:36.519 dad has ever said, every kind of subtly disapproving mom 789 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.360 and dad has said to their sons and daughters that 790 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.800 are wrestling fans, and just watch it, watch it sing 791 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.639 like a symphony and going directions you never could have anticipated. 792 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.920 It's it's a reminder as to in a way, you know, 793 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.360 it's a reminder of really the shame and pain it 794 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.000 is being a wrestling fan. Okay, that's what it is. 795 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:02.480 It reminds you that that that uh, you know, what 796 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:09.119 you're watching is uh, you know, it's it's harmful to yourself. 797 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:14.559 And it's certainly not something that even if you watch 798 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.440 it your whole life, that your parents are ever going 799 00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:22.559 to really understand. And by you know, insert parents, everybody, 800 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.800 polite society, yes, anyone you'll ever run into for the 801 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.239 rest of your life, you know, has no one. 802 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.559 Let me let me tell you this, no one's going 803 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.599 to think more of you for being a wrestling fan. 804 00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.599 Not everybody will think less of you. But you're exactly right, 805 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:36.800 no one will think more of you. 806 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.519 I I challenge anybody to just you know, you meet 807 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.599 somebody new for the first time and tell them you're 808 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.960 a wrestling fan and watch how far they distance themselves. 809 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.320 Oh really, there, it is so like you're talking about 810 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:56.280 like w w oh okay, okay, okay, okay, that's why 811 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.440 we're here. Where the corner you retreat to when it's 812 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.599 like God, yeah, in trouble, I'm trying to I'm out 813 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.599 there in the real world and they're looking at me. Well, look, 814 00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.360 there is something wrong with you. But this is how 815 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.880 you deal with it. TLF is how you deal with it. 816 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.079 And we'll send you back out of that corner and 817 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.719 fighting shape with vasoline on your cuts and your mouthpiece 818 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.960 firmly affixed and hopefully the blood flowing as it should 819 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.719 in those cramped up legs. So Wrestle Mamia is a 820 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:20.920 great way to get in touch with the kind of 821 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.079 thing we're talking about. As the Boss Man watches all 822 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.280 manner of matches from the archives with Mama Sorrow in 823 00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.559 the room, commenting things that are on the minds of 824 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:33.039 people who haven't been wrestling, brain addled with the course 825 00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:34.880 of their lives. And we say this because we're part 826 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.119 of it, We're inextricably part of it. We say it 827 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.440 not to cast judgment we say it to just have 828 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.199 our eyes wide open about the company we keep as 829 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.159 these long time obsessive wrestling fans, so then we know. 830 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:46.800 You're out there too. 831 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.000 The Christmas Show proves it, Patreon proves it. It's a 832 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.840 wonderful thing. So join us for Wrestle Mamia and the 833 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.719 Moteer if you find yourself so inclined and find yourself 834 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.280 in receipt of the resources to do so as we 835 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.880 close out twenty twenty four in the year and with 836 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:03.320 the holidays upon us. Of course, if you've got a 837 00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.719 lapsed fan in your life, there really is no excuse 838 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.519 as far as schwag availability. 839 00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:09.960 Oh fuck yeah. 840 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.039 I walked down in your basement when we were recording 841 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.159 the Christmas Show, or after we recorded the Christmas Show, 842 00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:16.239 and I laid eyes on it for the first time. 843 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:17.360 What did you see? 844 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.599 I laid eyes on the TLF Letterman jacket. Yes, you did, 845 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.800 and the fashion of the black and red raw is 846 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.440 war jacket that Vince and Jr. Started wearing wearing right 847 00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.000 around the time we're arriving at in our sid tribute, 848 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:33.800 by the way, and I. 849 00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:34.840 Looked at that thing, good point. 850 00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.199 I observed the craftmanship. I observed how the letters were 851 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:46.199 raised off of the fabric. I observed the the leather 852 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:50.599 texture of the red sleeves, and I just I was 853 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.360 just flabbergasted by the quality. 854 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:56.079 It's a beauty. It's a real beauty. You know, we 855 00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:58.320 geta I gotta find a place to take it out 856 00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.320 for for a test drive. But yeah, it is a beauty. Yeah. 857 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:04.800 If there's some if you're looking for something premium for 858 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.159 the TLF fan in your life, and if they're you know, 859 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.119 if they have kind of like the aesthetic that fits 860 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:10.880 with that, look, man, this is the ticket. This is 861 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.119 what Dicky has come up with over at Chopped Teas. 862 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:17.360 Our Chopped Tea store is just off the chain. But 863 00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:20.320 Letterman jacket, isn't just it that that's available on kind 864 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.239 of a limited run basis for premium price. I would 865 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.639 suggest to you at some point it won't be a 866 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.400 purchase option because these aren't these these aren't cheap to 867 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.079 put together. This is high quality craftsmanship that Dicky is 868 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.239 facilitating here. But there's a lot of other stuff, non 869 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:38.840 T shirt stuff like hoodies and caps and jackets, and 870 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:39.559 then you. 871 00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.519 Know, and he's also been able to take some of 872 00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.840 the items that yes, that haven't been able to to 873 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.559 cross the line over at over at pro wrestling teas. 874 00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.559 So you know, some of the stuff that you know, 875 00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.119 like the the the new warlorder shirt that I made 876 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.440 ten years ago, the design that I made ten years 877 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.920 ago that just you know, because of because of you know, 878 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.639 any kind of copyright issues, no one knowing you know, 879 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.800 they were progressing t's wasn't able to do. But it's 880 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:18.320 available now over it chopped, so you know, stop ticking around. 881 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:21.239 Yeah, there's no excuse. And progressing t's is very much 882 00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.280 worth mentioning because that's of course our full gallery of 883 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.239 every T shirt in particular that we've ever come up with, 884 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.480 and progressingts dot com Slash the Lapse fan is a 885 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.880 place to go for you know, let's face it, the 886 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.480 key piece of wardrobe for any self respecting wrestling fans 887 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:36.280 the black T shirt. 888 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.480 Oh fuck yeah. I mean listen, we cater to the 889 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:41.159 black T shirt. 890 00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:43.360 That's how you know, Like, if you're driving around trying 891 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.360 to find a wrestling venue, that's how you know you're 892 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.880 on the right block because you see two blocks worth 893 00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:52.119 of people wearing double x or single XL black T 894 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:52.960 shirts lined up. 895 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.000 I mean, come on, triple XL quadruple XL as well, 896 00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.400 and with what around their shoulder, usually a championship belt 897 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.119 because they on something somewhere is there the champ right, 898 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.199 it's not because they it's not because they They're they're 899 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.760 carrying a phony belt that means absolutely nothing on their shoulder. 900 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.920 And then with that visual, I I you know, I 901 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.639 developed some internal comfort that I found my destination. But 902 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:14.840 at the same time, as I locked my car door, 903 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.239 I look down at my shoes and I do a 904 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.280 quick exhale, and I shake my head and I walk 905 00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:21.679 towards my people once again. 906 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:22.519 Yep. 907 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.079 And we look forward to seeing everybody when we're out 908 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.000 and about in the wrestling world. But there's no better 909 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.039 way to fly the flag and please send us on 910 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.760 social and stuff. We love when people go to wrestling 911 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:33.159 shows wearing stuff from Pro Wrestling t's. It's always such 912 00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:35.320 a treat to see people fly the flag. I'll never 913 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.239 forget the homie Scott Suddy in the front row of 914 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:41.119 an aw show. Oh I love it, grabbing his laps 915 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.639 fan logo T and just like what I need, forcing 916 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.480 it into the foreground. Oh God, what pride that's sent 917 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.679 through through our veins. So Pro Wresting ts dot Com. 918 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.039 And I want to give a special shout out to Andrew. 919 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.519 Andrew is somebody who recently took us up on our 920 00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:01.719 Sids Vanna's line. In tribute to Sid and his proclivity 921 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:04.800 and his mission really to send as many cases of 922 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.639 Vienna sausages to his church in Memphis as he possibly could, 923 00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.440 we've developed a line of Sid's softball Vienna T shirts. Yes, 924 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.519 he was passionate about the Viennas and so are we. 925 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.920 And I want to thank Andrew for putting down real 926 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.719 American currency to purchase the cenn Sid's Vienna's T shirt 927 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.320 Overpro Wrestling dot Com. Salute to you, sir, and I 928 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.280 hope you wear it with pride and wear it with 929 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:34.159 joy this holiday season. Well that's that's important business. But 930 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.679 it's yes, it is, it's business. Nonetheless, let's get into 931 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.360 a little bit of fun, shall we. Let's get back 932 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.559 into where Sid stands in nineteen ninety seven. So he's 933 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.559 dropped the championship to the Undertaker at WrestleMania, right yep. 934 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.760 And you wonder, you know, because for Sid, it's always 935 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.760 like they gave me the belt because they believed in 936 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.000 me and I was going to go on a run. 937 00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.039 And of course it's never that. It's always said, you'll 938 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:02.679 be a good placeholder until we get to the people 939 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.320 we really want to build around, which will never be 940 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:08.519 you at large part because you have certain limitations as 941 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.599 a performer, and we never know when you're going to 942 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.039 just completely up and disappear on us or you know, 943 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.679 oversleep the Royal Rumble ninety seven press conference where we're 944 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.119 trying to fill the fucking Alamodome. 945 00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.559 I'm trying to get my stuff done. 946 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.719 And so were we, and that's why I have. 947 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.760 You don't understand I have responsibilities. Yeah, I do understand. 948 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:29.840 That's why I'm kind of. 949 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:37.360 I have responsibilities outside of yours. I need to accomplish things. 950 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.800 I have accomplishments that rely on my attention. 951 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.039 Yeah, so they're not quite accomplishments before you accomplish them. 952 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:47.960 But I do understand what you're trying to say. 953 00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:49.400 That's what they think you do. 954 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.119 That's why the sentimentation is so good, because he would 955 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.760 plub the syntax that way, you would have to be like, well, 956 00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:01.840 I kind of get what he's saying. But do you 957 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.280 think sid went into WrestleMania expecting to lose the championship. 958 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.400 I'm sure he did. I'm sure he went in there 959 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.440 thinking that there's no way he's losing the championship. 960 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.760 Here he is in one of his many shoot interviews, 961 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:15.360 this one with our video, talking about his mentality going 962 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.360 into Chicago that night and the end of the title 963 00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.760 reign that began on the show we last covered for 964 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.639 you on the sid tribute was you know, I was. 965 00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:26.679 Told again, once I get to go back, as long 966 00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.199 as I was doing good business, that we were going 967 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.719 to keep it on. I got to WrestleMania, it was 968 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.519 dropped to me, I was gonna drop it, So I said, okay, 969 00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:34.280 finally me. 970 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:53.679 Yeah, you know, and. 971 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.639 That's the only God knows what the story is behind 972 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.519 that pregnant pause. 973 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.480 Yeah. I mean that was definitely like what what, how 974 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:52.719 am I going to share this story? 975 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.239 Yeah? 976 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.760 Maybe because you found out that you you know, what 977 00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.639 do he say? Like, they're gonna keep me champion as 978 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:00.920 long as him drawing money. 979 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:03.920 I was told again, once I get the belt back, 980 00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:08.280 as long as I was doing good business, it was 981 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:09.679 dropped to me, I was going to drop it. 982 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.480 Well, I don't understand you're telling me I'm dropping the. 983 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.760 Belt tonight, yes, said it's kind of an obviousness. 984 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.320 Said yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's just the 985 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:24.840 way we got to do things. I don't understand. You're 986 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.480 telling me right now that I have to drop the belt. 987 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.800 You said that I did not have to drop the belt. Well, 988 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.199 what I said was you didn't have to drop the belt. 989 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.119 We wouldn't take the belt off you unless it was 990 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:41.239 you know, as long as you were doing good business. 991 00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.920 That's exactly what I'm saying. So why are you taking 992 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:45.679 the belt off me? 993 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.920 If we told you ahead of time that we're to 994 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.559 take the belt off of you, you wouldn't have showed up. 995 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:51.159 That's why. 996 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.920 I mean. There's that, and I mean said, I mean 997 00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.000 to be frank about it, and you're not doing good business. 998 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.440 Business is down with you on top. 999 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.960 I mean, this is on track, on track for the 1000 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:09.800 lowest bought WrestleMania of all time. 1001 00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:12.440 Just sorry, What the hell are you saying? Are you 1002 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:16.800 saying that I'm a draw? Are you saying that I 1003 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.079 didn't pack the house with those fans out there? 1004 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:21.280 That's what I'm saying. 1005 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:22.679 Shut up. 1006 00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.280 I want you to look me in the eye. I 1007 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.719 want you to look me in the face. Mcmn. 1008 00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.000 I want you to look in the eyes of Sid 1009 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:40.519 and I want you to tell me that I am 1010 00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:42.599 doing bad business. 1011 00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.559 Said, you're doing bad business. 1012 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.400 You understand what it means to be the master at 1013 00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:57.840 the road of the world. 1014 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:03.320 That really good And sham Michael's shamacho. 1015 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:09.639 He goes away with his damn leg is damn me 1016 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.400 and his smiles gone around the back. 1017 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:12.840 Of his head. 1018 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.000 You don't have to worry about Sid smile. 1019 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.000 You haven't worry about Sid smile. 1020 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:27.039 My smile stays right. Words should be on my mouth now, 1021 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:28.079 not getting from. 1022 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.079 Here here, not in the back of my head like 1023 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:31.440 sham Michael's. 1024 00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.880 My smile and on the back of my head like 1025 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:38.199 sham michaels. 1026 00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:41.559 Let's fucking go. 1027 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:44.880 I don't know why you're telling me. Fix it, man, 1028 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.960 You tell me right now. You're telling me right now 1029 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:51.960 that I don't have what it takes a draw. 1030 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.559 Someone get him a piece of paper and some crayons, 1031 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.400 please and improved. 1032 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.360 If you want to prove that you can draw, I'll 1033 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:05.880 tell you what they You know, there is a there's 1034 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.440 a daycare center in the building, and they've got crayons 1035 00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:13.360 and markers and construction paper, and you can show me 1036 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.199 if you can draw. But if you're going to do that, 1037 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.239 which I definitely think you should, the one thing is 1038 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:25.360 they don't allow championship belts in the daycare the beauty family. 1039 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:26.559 You know, you go to the house and they got 1040 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.639 drawings on the fridge and no, that's so cute. You 1041 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:30.239 realize most of them are done by Sid. 1042 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.119 I Frank to that. 1043 00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:40.519 No, Dad, you think Frank would get off his ass 1044 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:41.960 for a second to color a picture of you? 1045 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:42.599 Out of your mind? 1046 00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.639 I got a garage full of Vienna's because of that 1047 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:48.199 fucking guy. I feel like we ended up with a 1048 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:50.880 garage full of Viennas by the time the fuck could run, rapping. 1049 00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.000 Was over too. Oh, I know seriously, so like I'm. 1050 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:56.159 Looking down and at inventory that that failed to be 1051 00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:58.159 distributed as originally arranged. 1052 00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:01.239 Uh uh said. 1053 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.400 We're going to keep the belt on you. No, we're not, said, 1054 00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.639 why would we do such a thing? That's the story 1055 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.440 with him. It's like I never got the run. We've 1056 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:12.639 heard it, you know, I never got the chance to 1057 00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:14.039 prove that if you keep the belt on me for 1058 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:15.920 a period of time, I can be among those top 1059 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.000 drawing champions that you had. And yeah, yeah, they sure 1060 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.400 didn't go with you, because every two months it's like, 1061 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.159 oh this wasn't what I thought it's gonna be. Uh 1062 00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:27.280 my bicep hurts, Like come on, man, what do you expect? 1063 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.000 But yeah, that pregnant pause was so much. You know, 1064 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:33.119 there's so much more shit he pulled at Mania so 1065 00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:33.800 much more. 1066 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.519 Maybe went into Undertaker's locker room and try to convince 1067 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.159 him to like say, no, you're not gonna take the belt. 1068 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:44.280 Well, you probably came up with some kakammy thing where 1069 00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:45.920 like you don't do this, I'm not going out there 1070 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:46.320 or something. 1071 00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:46.920 I don't know. 1072 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:48.800 That's just what I heard in that clip. I thought 1073 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:49.599 that was fascinating. 1074 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.360 Mark. I want you, Mark, I want you going there. 1075 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:57.440 You tell them you're not taking the belt. You you 1076 00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.519 look me right in the eye. Run now. I want 1077 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.800 you go out there. I want to tell Vinswick man, 1078 00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:05.639 I'm not taking Sid's belt. 1079 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.480 What hits you in the head like a shot? 1080 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:10.159 Or I'm gonna kick you in your kneecap? 1081 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:14.239 Wow, whoa, that's a threat. Jeez, how's he ever gonna 1082 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.599 come back from that? It is funny to threaten somebody 1083 00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:20.480 with a very kind of rudimentary blow like a single 1084 00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:24.239 blow like that, not to the face, just to some 1085 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.679 other appendace kneecap. Well, hey, if you kick Mark Kellaway 1086 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.880 in the knees, you could uh incapacitate him. 1087 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.119 Before could he couldn't he could implode, could. 1088 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.280 Just vaporize where he stands. But yeah, it really tasty 1089 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.199 to think about what was on Sid's mind because you 1090 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:38.960 watch the shoot interviews that he did over the course 1091 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.079 of his life, and they're so meandering, and it seems 1092 00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:43.400 like he's holding nothing back. It seems like he's got 1093 00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:46.119 a he's got like a SOB story for everything that's 1094 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.039 ever happened in his career. Not a SOB story, but 1095 00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:51.119 kind of like, you know, it's always like, oh it 1096 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.719 was great, but you know one thing I always bothered me, 1097 00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:55.760 or one thing that really sucked about that whole thing, 1098 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.280 or one thing that really couldn't get over. There's always 1099 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.320 that at the end every time, which I love about 1100 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.360 the guy. I mean, that's that's that's our oxygen here, 1101 00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.199 you know, as wrestlers who can't help but let some 1102 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.519 grievance out every time they open their mouth. But for Sid, 1103 00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:13.320 it's just like man if if if in this instance, 1104 00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.400 he wasn't comfortable saying what was on his mind in 1105 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.599 that exact moment. I can't imagine when you consider the 1106 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.639 things he does say, the things he does insist on 1107 00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:24.000 mentioning it's a it's it's. 1108 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.280 Yeah, there's something. If there's something that he's holding back from, 1109 00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.079 it's gonna be pretty pretty fucking juicy. 1110 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.519 So coming off Wrestling Maney thirteen, he hits Peoria the 1111 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.360 March twenty fifth taping where he beats Jerry Fox and 1112 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.079 then uh, he goes to Kuwait with the ww OF 1113 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:39.920 tour in April of ninety seven. You know, they would 1114 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.280 often go to the Middle East, not often, but when 1115 00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:42.559 they did go. 1116 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.280 Isn't it that it's that tour, isn't it? Isn't it 1117 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:45.800 that tour? 1118 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:50.440 Isn't what that tour where Vader gets stuck? He nailed it. Yeah, 1119 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:52.360 this is the tour where Vader does a morning talk 1120 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:54.639 show with Undertaker in Kuwait and. 1121 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.760 Is Taker just sits there like a fucking idiot. 1122 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.000 Oh yeah, yeah, we went through this on the nineties 1123 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:03.079 seven journey. I think yeah, and uh, you know, the 1124 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.840 rest of the host starts implying it's fake and says 1125 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.199 asks if it's fake, Invader gets up and snatches him 1126 00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.880 by the shirt and idiot. It's a big international incident 1127 00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:12.159 and they don't want to let him go return to 1128 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:13.960 the United States and he's going to be charged and 1129 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.519 it's bloody hilarious and Taker has to pretend to still 1130 00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.360 be in character the whole time, even though. 1131 00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:20.880 But he's not even like you know, keep in mind, 1132 00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:26.000 this is Undertaker also dressing as right biker Taker, you know, 1133 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:31.159 big dead Undertaker. Like he's just he's he he's just 1134 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.079 he's sitting there. I mean, he looks not like the Undertaker. 1135 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.840 You know, he looks like two thousand Undertaker. It's very odd. 1136 00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:43.119 Absolutely, it's odd, I agree, And it's a it's a 1137 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:48.480 time of great identity crisis for the Undertaker because they've 1138 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:50.280 put the strap on him. Now he's the man like, 1139 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.280 he's the guy that's going to go around and represented 1140 00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.239 Waifs Champion. He's not this side show that doesn't really 1141 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.360 get a lot of media exposure because he's a gimmick 1142 00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.159 like no, and now he's got to be the WIF Champion. 1143 00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.760 He's going to be doing interviews. He's got to figure 1144 00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:04.719 out how to talk and still be the Undertaker and 1145 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.760 still keep up this k Fabes kept up so long 1146 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.039 with the gimmick and was so well respected for keeping up. 1147 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.119 So I think that's kind of interesting crossroads and that 1148 00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.519 whole thing. But yeah, this is the tour and Sid 1149 00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.519 didn't want to go on the tour. Of course he didn't. 1150 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.000 As we'll get to he thought it was a wonderful 1151 00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.320 opportunity as a matter of fact, to let a lot 1152 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.920 of nagging injuries heal. And he found a way to 1153 00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.840 take it very personally that WWF instead of taking what 1154 00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:29.840 he thought was a golden opportunity to take him off 1155 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.679 the road and suffer no ill consequence because there's not 1156 00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:34.199 a lot of US cities that they're going to hit 1157 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.239 during the Kuwait tour to rehab some injuries and let 1158 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.440 him come back when they get back from Kuwait. He's 1159 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:41.239 doesn't want to make the shot. He doesn't want to go, 1160 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:43.880 and that they him go anyway. 1161 00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:44.760 And on. 1162 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.079 April ninth of nineteen ninety seven in Kuwait City, he 1163 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:53.320 loses to Freddie Joe Floyd in Kuwait. Oh really, in 1164 00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:56.440 the first round of the Kuwaiti Cup. Oh my god, 1165 00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:58.719 So this is not the one that I'm mad wins? 1166 00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.400 Remember that, didn't they do that the year before he 1167 01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:01.400 won the Kuwaiti Cup. 1168 01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:02.880 Yeah, something like that, and. 1169 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:04.960 They showed it on TV and played it up this one, 1170 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:08.559 they hardly been mentioned on television. But but yeah, he 1171 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:12.000 loses to Freddy Joe Floyd. Hkak Tracy smothers his old 1172 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:14.000 pal from from Memphis. So I'm sure that wasn't a 1173 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.159 huge negotiation of all the jabbronis to have Sid lose to. 1174 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.639 But you know, when Sid's losing to someone like that, 1175 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.480 or losing in a very quick way, you know, he's 1176 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.400 coming off of having been told he's been a bad boy, 1177 01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:30.239 you know, and this is your punishment lost to Freddy 1178 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.960 Joe Floyd. He's the equivalent of you know, rubbing the 1179 01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:33.280 dog's face in the mess, you know. 1180 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:51.000 Yeah, fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the 1181 01:00:51.039 --> 01:01:09.119 boys need their candy. It's the lapsed fan. He's an 1182 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:14.119 lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carneo m JP Sorrow. 1183 01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.920 So it's not going well in that result, I think 1184 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.840 tells you the story and then all of a sudden, 1185 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.159 what's also in jeopardy? His April match with Brett House 1186 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:23.880 with Brett Heart at the In Your House pay per 1187 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.360 view Brett House. Yes, all of a sudden, it's a problem. 1188 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:30.119 April twentieth, nineteen ninety seven, Dayton Daily News headline, Steve Austin, 1189 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:33.280 not Psycho Sid to be in your House. Wow, it's 1190 01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:36.320 by Alex Marvez. The circumstances entering Tonight's in Your House 1191 01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.119 pay per view show may be more interesting than the 1192 01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:41.039 card itself. The World Wrestling Federation was forced to change 1193 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:44.400 Bretdheart's opponent to Steve Austin after Psycho Said missed a 1194 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.079 Monday night raw show two weeks ago. 1195 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:47.000 Oh my god. 1196 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.320 Sid told WWF officials he had injured his back, but 1197 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.559 some believe that was an excuse to avoid losing to Heart. 1198 01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.800 Considering Sid's shaky track record, that WWF decided it couldn't 1199 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:01.360 risk billing him on in Your Head House. Austin versus 1200 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:03.679 Hard is the promotion's hottest feud, but the WWF was 1201 01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:08.400 hoping to save this match until later. Don't don't expect 1202 01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.199 a conclusive finish, because neither Austin or Hart can afford 1203 01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:13.039 to lose. And I'm sitting here and I don't remember 1204 01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:14.920 the finish. I think that's probably oh. 1205 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:20.239 DQ, Yeah, Austin puts Brett Hart in the Sharpshooter and 1206 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:25.400 the the Heart Foundation comes out and disqualifies. 1207 01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.000 Brett like right a Monday night raw finish on pay 1208 01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.199 per views, right right, which tells you all you need 1209 01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.280 to know about how how not by design? Rematching these 1210 01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:36.199 two a month after Mania? 1211 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:37.760 I mean, it's a shame. It's a good it's a 1212 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.400 decent match too. It's like, oh, yeah, they're not gonna 1213 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:42.400 do anything you can't have. I mean, you really, you 1214 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.679 can't have a clean finish on you know, that's that's 1215 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:48.440 your money feud. That that should have been your WrestleMania 1216 01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:50.400 fourteen main event. 1217 01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.039 Oh yeah, we've talked about that, Austin Hart Mania fourteen. 1218 01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:57.679 If the screw job doesn't happen, that's the move easily, 1219 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:02.000 not Austin Sean. But yeah no, yeah, So what's this 1220 01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.199 all about? Sid? I mean, what back injury? All of 1221 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.800 a sudden after your well, you know you told him, right, 1222 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.920 you told him they shouldn't have sent you to Kuwait. 1223 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:14.719 I said, don't, don't, don't take me to Kuwait. So 1224 01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.760 you take me to Kuwait, I get injured? What happened? 1225 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:21.559 I've done so many jobs to suggest that I don't 1226 01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:22.760 want to do a job I've done more. 1227 01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.679 Well, let's let's just let's just let him say. 1228 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:29.920 Oh boy, Uh, the first injury was a back injury. 1229 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.920 And that wasn't a fucking injury. First of all, it 1230 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:36.840 was a bullshit, fucking deal, Bruce Piccher, not fucking fat 1231 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.639 ass Jim Ross. My back was fucked up because I 1232 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:42.880 was taking those suit plexes off that fucking top roade 1233 01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:46.440 for Brett every night, you know, and okay, god, and 1234 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:48.840 it just seemed like every night my back was landing 1235 01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:51.199 right on that piece of iron or something, and I 1236 01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:55.400 was just totally worked well all right after els Mania, 1237 01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.280 I told Vince, I said, I don't want to go 1238 01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:00.360 to that damn Overseas them sorry radio bullsh because I 1239 01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:02.599 know there weren't going to beat people there. And I said, 1240 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.000 it's be a perfect time for me to get my 1241 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.320 back piled up. And I had, uh one day surgeries. 1242 01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:09.119 I had a series of three of my needed to 1243 01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.760 do and it was taking an epidural, which is you know, 1244 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.880 a big long need onto your back for cortizone injections, 1245 01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.280 which would obliviate the pain for at least a year. 1246 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:23.880 So when they came back from Overseas, they said well, 1247 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:26.119 have you got releasing the doctor yet and. 1248 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:27.360 I said no, I haven't. 1249 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:27.639 You know. 1250 01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:29.880 He said, well, man, we need to make Monday, not Row. 1251 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:30.960 It's coming Monday. 1252 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:33.159 I said, well, I can make it, you know, and 1253 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:34.960 I'll just go to the doctor when I get back. 1254 01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:37.480 They said, no, we need to go right now to 1255 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:39.639 the doctor and have a look at you. 1256 01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:41.639 Now. This is before they started the court zone treatments. 1257 01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:43.800 I said, guys, if I could just have a couple, 1258 01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.480 I mean, don't worry about my back. 1259 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:46.760 I'm telling you right now, if. 1260 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:48.960 I go to the doctor, they were probably don't want 1261 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.000 to do surgery. And I was, you know, I knew 1262 01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.119 that that was how fun e stept it was. Then 1263 01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:55.599 I said, what my doctor came get me in today. 1264 01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:58.719 I was leaving to go to the family union for Saturday, 1265 01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:00.199 and I was going to be back Sunday to go 1266 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.559 fly Monday from Monday out Row. So as soon as 1267 01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:05.760 I have the phone, they coming back, like thirty minutes later. 1268 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:08.960 They actually called my own doctor and Scudy said we 1269 01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:12.119 really needed him in there. Could you please get him in? 1270 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.199 So I said, okay, I'll call you back about thirty minutes. 1271 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.920 Five minutes for my doctor's office weren't in sure enough. 1272 01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.440 He said, man, you're like six weeks eight weeks off 1273 01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:23.159 or something. So that I called him back and see 1274 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:25.360 what I fucking told you, And see that's what started 1275 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.480 my bullshit. There was them two fat fox getting in 1276 01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:31.559 my way to see events, knowing it or not knowing it. 1277 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.039 If he does do it, then that makes him a 1278 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.000 dumb fuck too to take a talent like me and 1279 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.480 just fuck me off like that, because I was willing 1280 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.039 to come back to work without a fucking doctor's release, 1281 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.639 because we all had to do that, and we're all 1282 01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.039 going to have back problems, you have to walk around them. 1283 01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:48.920 I mean, it was nice to get those Corrizon shop 1284 01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:50.679 if that's just a doctor's way of making a quick 1285 01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:53.880 fucking cup of way, you know what I mean. It 1286 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.320 gives you temporary relief, they say for one year, but 1287 01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.360 after that's going to come back anyway. And the thing is, 1288 01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:01.280 we all know when you've been in the business, loans 1289 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.480 we have, you got an injury, it's gonna go away 1290 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.280 sooner or later, you know what I mean. So if 1291 01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:08.519 you're gonna cry out every injury you have and not 1292 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:10.760 be at work every night because you got an injury. 1293 01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:14.599 But some people are then you never fucking work. But 1294 01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:20.039 that's where that that injury came in. It wasn't really 1295 01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:22.199 an injury. It was just I needed a little time off, 1296 01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:24.000 and then when I came back, we had the wreck 1297 01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:26.440 and that's when I had the real surgery when I 1298 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:31.760 didn't invertebrate in my neck. I mean, I don't know 1299 01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:33.840 what reason in the world, but they wanted me to 1300 01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:36.159 have a doctor's release from my back before I came back. 1301 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:38.920 I guess for whatever reason they wanted to fuck with 1302 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:41.519 me or something. But I said, then I'll come back 1303 01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:43.440 and then I'll go to the doctor and I'll just say. 1304 01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:46.400 I'm okay and we'll go on heals. Okay, well that's 1305 01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:46.920 what we'll do. 1306 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.760 And like I said, when we talked to your doctor 1307 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:50.920 said he'll squeeze. 1308 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:52.599 You in and I said, okay, I didn't want to 1309 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.400 go to the doctor because I know exactly what it said. 1310 01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:58.840 Nice is at least it's not complicated dealing with the guy. 1311 01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:02.079 Huh No, not at all. What the you guys told me. 1312 01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:03.519 If I go here, then but if I did this, 1313 01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.360 but if I didn't go there, he's not even open today. 1314 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:07.639 I'm going to reunion. Fine, I'll go tomorrow, but he 1315 01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:09.960 can't even fit me in. Well, I go my reunion 1316 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.599 just like the what I didn't what? Why why are 1317 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:14.599 you telling me about your reunion? 1318 01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:15.159 What do you have to do? 1319 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:15.440 Care? 1320 01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:16.920 Stop it? Stop it? 1321 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:18.960 I mean what a what a okay? First of all, 1322 01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.159 tremendous that he calls Jim Ross and Bruce Richard fat Fox. 1323 01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:25.719 Oh yes, tremendous, absolutely, because I bet what's happening. And 1324 01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:27.400 you can hear a little bit of annoyance in Bruce's 1325 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.039 voice when he did a pod about Sid like in JR. 1326 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.199 While he says diplomatic things about Sid, particularly after his passing, 1327 01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:35.679 and otherwise he doesn't have a lot to say, like 1328 01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:37.320 Sid is not someone who comes up in the books 1329 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.000 he's written and said, is not somebody he wants to 1330 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.079 talk much about, it seems like to me, which is 1331 01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:42.880 weird because he was, you know, head of Talent Relations 1332 01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:46.360 and there during Sid's biggest mischief years. 1333 01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:49.559 Yeah. Can I just say too, By the way, I 1334 01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:53.679 just so I have I'm looking through now because he 1335 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:55.559 said I don't know how often did he say it 1336 01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:58.280 was facing Brett Hart. I don't know. 1337 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.039 He just said he's taking suplexes all the time. I 1338 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:01.039 don't know if it was every night. 1339 01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:05.639 I mean, so far the I've only seen three matches 1340 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.559 I've been going through since February of ninety seven. I'm 1341 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:13.920 on the history of w website and there are maybe 1342 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.600 three let's see here, I got I. 1343 01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:19.800 Think he would take them in the triple threats with Sean. 1344 01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:25.760 Well, they haven't had They had one in January. Yeah, 1345 01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:33.800 and then he had three four four steel cage matches 1346 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:41.199 between March seventh and March ninth with Brett Hart. Besides that, 1347 01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.359 he was teaming with Brett Hart. Yes, he and he 1348 01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.880 and and Brett. We'll go against Sewn, Michaels and Steve Austin. 1349 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:54.079 But it's every night, boss, I'm taking super plexes every night. 1350 01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.239 Super plex? Are you taking superlexes from your partner? 1351 01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:58.560 So when you see him take a superplex against Brett 1352 01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:01.560 in that cage match after what but shoves down Vincent all. 1353 01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.720 That, I mean, I'm sorry, I don't. I just don't 1354 01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.199 think that that sid is taking a fucking superplex. 1355 01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.279 Well it wasn't an injury. I love this, that bullshit thing. 1356 01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:11.840 It wasn't even injury. Well, was it? Why is there 1357 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:13.319 a deal then if you're not hurt, like I mean, 1358 01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.680 I get it his whole thing, And did you decode 1359 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:17.039 what he was saying, like what is the case he 1360 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:21.880 was trying to make kind of He's saying that like 1361 01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:26.319 I just needed to heal from a from a minor problem. 1362 01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:29.520 I don't even call it an injury. And I thought, 1363 01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:31.439 you know, since someone's gonna be in kuwait, I should 1364 01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.039 just sit here and fucking rehab. And instead they're like, 1365 01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:39.319 we need you to go to raw uh And you're like, okay, 1366 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:42.520 but I don't have clearance, and they're like, you need 1367 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:44.600 to get clearance. This is at a point in time 1368 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.159 when WWF for some reason got very particular about having 1369 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.479 a doctor's okay before someone came back to the ring. 1370 01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:53.199 They're probably afraid of getting sued or something like that, 1371 01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.439 i'd imagine. And so Sin is like Sid, Sid's the 1372 01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:59.319 master of this game. Since the master of the doctor's 1373 01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:02.279 closed or who knows what he tells the doc when 1374 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.359 he gets in there. You know, guys, I'm telling you 1375 01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:06.760 he's gonna tell me that I can't work. Just go 1376 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.640 in and said, because you know they're thinking they're doing 1377 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:11.359 like a third party check and verification on this guy. 1378 01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:14.119 They think they're doing their diligence. Yeah, I mean, what 1379 01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:15.840 are the odds, I said, just goes into the doctor 1380 01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:17.119 and says, Doc, I can't even move. 1381 01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:21.159 I just caid, doc, Doc, I want to ask you 1382 01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:25.119 a question. Yes, just look me the eye. I want 1383 01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:26.359 you to look me in the eye. I want you 1384 01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:30.560 to answer the question, am I able to. 1385 01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:31.079 Go to work? 1386 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:33.119 Well? 1387 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:41.920 Before you answer that, answer the answer the damn question, Well, 1388 01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:44.079 should what kind of work do you do? 1389 01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:52.800 I'm a long jumper, That's what I might have put it. 1390 01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:57.680 Well, you see, you're like a long jumper, like like that, 1391 01:10:57.760 --> 01:10:59.239 kind of like an Olympic athlete. 1392 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:02.880 Yeah, that's exactly what I am. 1393 01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:05.760 Well, I don't think you should do that. No, no, no, no, 1394 01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:11.119 I can't go to work. Doctor said, So, Doc, did 1395 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:14.239 you say I could go back to work? I said no, 1396 01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.119 I said, no, we cannot go back to work if 1397 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:18.680 he's that kind of an athlete. Absolutely not. 1398 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:20.439 How long do I need to rest? 1399 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:25.359 Doc? Well, I mean, honestly, are you training for the Olympics? Yes, 1400 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:25.880 I am. 1401 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:27.319 How long do I need to rest? 1402 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.640 Well, I'd say you need at least, you know, some 1403 01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:35.159 maybe about two months of rehab. Doc. 1404 01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:37.960 How long do I need to rest. 1405 01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:40.800 I'd say at least four months. 1406 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:49.960 Awesome at that KFA doctor that's three minutes from his house. Yeah, okay, real, 1407 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.640 a real fresh set of eyes, a real objective observer. 1408 01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:55.560 I mean, I'm not doubting the guy was hurt, but 1409 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:57.920 he says it right there in the clip. You know, 1410 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.279 if you took off every time you could argue that 1411 01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:04.079 you're hurting, you would never work, especially back then. So 1412 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:08.239 it's it's just it's phenomenal. And he's basically to my 1413 01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:11.920 here my ear, accusing Prichard and Ross of you know, saying, 1414 01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:13.920 fuck this guy, like we're gonna catch him in a lie, 1415 01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:15.880 you know, and you don't catch Sid in a lie. 1416 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.119 You don't do it because he's just never gonna He's 1417 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:19.720 never gonna grant your premise. 1418 01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:22.239 Right exactly, Listen, Sid's always gonna get out of it, 1419 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:24.079 or he's gonna find a way out of it, exactly. 1420 01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:27.399 Just when you think you've like laid a fact pattern 1421 01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:31.800 bear that calls into question his h his all the 1422 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.359 things that he said with so much conviction, something else 1423 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.000 comes up and he's just like, God, this is just 1424 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:37.760 gonna go on forever, isn't it unless we just give 1425 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.000 him when he wants, so let's just do that. But 1426 01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:41.600 this is this is it, this is where they completely 1427 01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:44.399 lose patience with him. They've got the strap off him. 1428 01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:46.359 He played the role he needed to play during all 1429 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.279 that messiness with Sean giving up the belt, and now 1430 01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:52.640 there's pretty much we're headed towards zero tolerance policies it 1431 01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:57.640 regards the Sidster and uh and these whole meandering games 1432 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:02.359 don't don't really hold water anymore. So that's what's going 1433 01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:05.479 on around the April nineteen ninety seven In Your House show. 1434 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.840 Sid also says in the same interview that he had 1435 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.079 never heard of him being booked to wrestle Brett on 1436 01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:13.840 the pay per view, despite it being on the docket 1437 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:18.560 and advertised once or choice on television. Meltzer reported that 1438 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:20.880 Sid's been working with a hernie in a disk in his 1439 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.119 back that was caused, you know, by straining and the 1440 01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:28.840 other things talked about, and he says the reason was 1441 01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:31.279 handled so clumsily. This is the Sid Brett match on 1442 01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:33.560 the April seventh, nineteen ninety seven, an episode of Monday 1443 01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.520 Night Raw is they literally didn't know about it as 1444 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:37.279 the show was going on that Sid was not going 1445 01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:38.119 to be able to do the match. 1446 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:39.399 Oh my god. 1447 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:41.000 I didn't know if he'd actually be there on RAW 1448 01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:42.840 or not. So this must be April seventh. Must be 1449 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:44.560 the Raw that he's talking about that they called him 1450 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:46.279 and said they'd need him for that. He knew shows, 1451 01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:50.920 and then all the doctor stuff happens, Meltzer reported. Apparently 1452 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.039 Sid left a message at the office over the weekend. 1453 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:56.840 Nobody was there, and Raw was taped on a Sunday night, 1454 01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:57.600 so nobody knew. 1455 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.479 I think this is where this started. Is that the 1456 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:06.359 voicemail for nor We talked, Yeah, we did this amazing. 1457 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.439 This is where we did the we started the whole thing. 1458 01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.199 It was this missed Raw, unbelievable. And he calls on 1459 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:16.720 the weekend knowing no one's going to be there, you 1460 01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:19.880 know that whole trick. Yeah yeah, yeah, like telling Holt 1461 01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:21.880 to facts the thing on a Sunday that he's going 1462 01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.119 to exercise creative control against a head of bash at 1463 01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.760 the beach two thousand, just just to. 1464 01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:27.399 Cover your rent. 1465 01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:30.800 You're ass legally upon Eric Bischoff's suggestion that he'd later 1466 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:34.239 claimed to know nothing about that, and he didn't think 1467 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:37.119 to call the building Meltzer reported to let anyone know 1468 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:39.319 he was hurt. Ends up talking to Evince later in 1469 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.199 the week, and Meltzer was reporting that no word on 1470 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:43.880 how long he'll be gone. But there's also a lot 1471 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:47.920 of skepticism at the time to the legitimacy of the 1472 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:48.600 maladies he. 1473 01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:54.399 Was an injury or some sort. I mean, you didn't call. 1474 01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:58.920 I called, and even if I didn't, I don't need 1475 01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:02.720 to tell you if I called her not right? Well, 1476 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:09.439 I say, uh, you do kind of. I mean, what 1477 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:13.000 is there anything we can do to to help you? 1478 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:14.720 I mean, we listen, we don't want to. 1479 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:17.720 I mean, let's be honest, pal. Yeah, I mean, you know, 1480 01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:20.079 Brett put you over three times in a row. You know, 1481 01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:22.680 now it's time for us to get Brett back on track. 1482 01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:26.840 And it's you know, you gotta, you gotta When when 1483 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:28.680 can you come back? Because you know Brett needs that. 1484 01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:33.760 You know, Brett needs his win back. Remember the flip 1485 01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:35.319 side of the coin when he was taking power bombs 1486 01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:35.680 every night? 1487 01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:38.119 Said hello are you there? 1488 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:42.880 Said ship? 1489 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:43.359 Oh? 1490 01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.840 Ship? He was listening. He was boyling, is what he 1491 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:51.720 was doing. I don't answer you face McMahon. 1492 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:56.239 Oh that's in a shot. 1493 01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:57.560 Oh, don't. 1494 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:04.399 That's Brett. I to the sid and I want you 1495 01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:05.640 to look me in the eye. 1496 01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:11.279 We're on the phone. Shut up, sadly exactly. 1497 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.239 I don't have to come to work because I had 1498 01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:20.359 the master. 1499 01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.439 And the ruler of my world. 1500 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:32.960 To say that again, yes, that these are all facts. 1501 01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:37.239 I understand that. However, you do you do have some 1502 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:45.520 contractual dates. I do not have contractual anything. Uh told 1503 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:53.560 have contract mm hmm is that true? Does he not have? No? No, 1504 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.039 we we we have, we have we have a contract. 1505 01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:58.680 I got right here, Pa, you signed it. I'm looking 1506 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:01.359 at it right now. I want you is real good? 1507 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:05.640 Pick man? See it's not the world champion. 1508 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:09.439 No, yes, woh see, it's real simple. 1509 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:16.880 See it's real simple. You go around there, you start 1510 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:22.760 promoting that undertaker, that piece of shit. You go around 1511 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:28.079 and you're backing up Steve Austin, Sean Michaels, Brett Hart. 1512 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.680 But I want to ask you one thing. How come 1513 01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:35.520 I'm being overlooked and stick man? Is it because I'm 1514 01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:36.600 not a big movie star? 1515 01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:40.000 He goes out of the old promo. He's only got 1516 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.680 like four or five scripts in his head. Really, let 1517 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:46.439 me guess it's real. Let me let me. Guess what 1518 01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:48.159 I said. The game we play is simple? 1519 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:52.520 Is this some? Is the game we play simple? I'm 1520 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:56.239 gonna tell you what's simple? And I ask you again, 1521 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:59.800 Is it because I'm not a big movie star like 1522 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:04.600 Hulk Coagan, the Immortal One himself said, I don't really 1523 01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:06.880 care about Hulk Hogan. I know he's over in WCW. 1524 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:12.000 Is it because I'm the newcomer? Said? You've been in 1525 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.439 the company, I mean, on an office since nineteen ninety two. 1526 01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:18.920 You're not a newcomer anymore. I want you to answer 1527 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:23.680 this one question, vis Nick Man, I want you to 1528 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:26.000 ask me if I know shit. 1529 01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:30.079 Do? 1530 01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:37.359 This is an interesting position, all right, I'm do do do? 1531 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.279 Do you know shit? I don't know shit. 1532 01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:41.720 I don't know you. 1533 01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:45.399 I don't know where I am. And that means I 1534 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:48.520 don't have to obey and I don't have to sit 1535 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:52.680 around and do things that you want or that I 1536 01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:56.319 think that I need to do. I'll tell you what 1537 01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.680 I need to do. I have got three hundred pounds 1538 01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:07.119 of things Vienna sausages in my garage right now. Uh okay, 1539 01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:14.439 Vietna three pounds. Okay, that's a lot of canned meat. 1540 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:20.159 Did you say Vietnamese sausages. You're saying Vietnamese. So that's 1541 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:24.119 not what I said. I got Vienna's, I got Vina, 1542 01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:31.279 I got vienna is coming out of my ass. 1543 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:35.319 He says it like it's He says it like I 1544 01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:43.560 got I got whooping cough, you know, like I got Vienna's. Look, look, 1545 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:46.359 I got Vienna's. Like that's one thing you can't say 1546 01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:48.000 about me is that I don't have Viennas. 1547 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:52.880 If you need me, send me pictures of viennas I 1548 01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.680 got them, if I need to prove to you that 1549 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.119 I have all that I have all these Viennas in 1550 01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:03.520 my in my garage because my fucking son doesn't didn't 1551 01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:04.399 deliver them on time. 1552 01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:06.560 Vienna's. 1553 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:09.119 You talk about what else might they be packaged with? 1554 01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:11.560 In terms of an overall holistic meal? 1555 01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:14.399 What do you I mean Vienna's. It's a that's a 1556 01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:18.880 hearty meal, is it not. It's like top of. 1557 01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:21.279 A serial killer. You're just hoping he doesn't shoot. 1558 01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:27.239 I'll tell you in my experience, Vienna sauage, very hearty meal. 1559 01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:30.319 I see h. What do you what do you exactly? 1560 01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:34.039 Do you do you? Are you calling the police? Exactly? 1561 01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:37.039 Are you so? What exactly I don't know how long 1562 01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:38.920 I can do this. I don't not want Patterson. You 1563 01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:40.680 better call the goddamn cops. I don't know what I'm 1564 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.560 fucking doing here. So what what? What? What would do? 1565 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.920 What would you kind of eat in addition to the 1566 01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:51.000 Vienna sausage? Would you have another, uh maybe a side 1567 01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.600 dish or something. So you get a nice cheddar cracker 1568 01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:59.279 and you put the viennas on side on top, you know, 1569 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:02.199 in between, you make yourself a sandwich about to drink, 1570 01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:07.880 about to drink? Said, wow, you have a beverage to 1571 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:13.720 kind of wash down me a Vienna sandwich? I just 1572 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:18.279 get bow water. It's all these a ball of water, 1573 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:22.239 I'll say you would if you really want to make 1574 01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:26.079 it a successful meal, a meal that will draw fans 1575 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:29.640 every single time, Well, this is what we need, we need. 1576 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:33.479 I guess we should start doing na Vienna sandwiches to 1577 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:40.960 fans and arenas. I guess they draw people. You can 1578 01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:45.159 get all right, if you really want to make it 1579 01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:51.399 a full meal, you get yourself a moonpie, I say, 1580 01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:57.119 moonpie with Vienna sandwiches and a bah wah wah. Do 1581 01:21:57.119 --> 01:22:07.880 you get that one bah wah wah ball water? So Bruce, 1582 01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:08.840 he called you a fat bitch. 1583 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:13.640 Any comments at this point, it's a lot of skepticism 1584 01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:18.960 because again Sid had everybody's number, He had Vince's home 1585 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.800 phone number. Vince isn't that hard to get in touch with. 1586 01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:29.479 So everybody's got the booking sheets. You can let everybody know. 1587 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.760 So that's the that's the part where the bullshit flags 1588 01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:38.680 go up and you just think, Okay, Sid doesn't want 1589 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.840 to play anymore, and that that was the feeling. 1590 01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:47.960 It just was damn it well. But also there was 1591 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:49.560 a feeling of relief. 1592 01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:53.279 That well, we got WrestleMania out of it, we got 1593 01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:54.880 the we got everything on taker, and. 1594 01:22:55.239 --> 01:23:00.119 We're moving forward. So that was the feeling. 1595 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.239 Man, if a guy, thing that we wanted to do 1596 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:08.000 was make sure the guys were taken care of. Also, 1597 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:10.000 we had to take care of the company. So if 1598 01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:13.720 you come in, it was a changing in times in general, 1599 01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:16.600 where you say you're hurt, Okay, we need you to 1600 01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:18.920 get checked out by a doctor, find out what's wrong 1601 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.439 with you, find out what it is that you need 1602 01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:24.520 to do to correct the problem. Once you do that, 1603 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.720 we also need a doctor to release you and say, yes, 1604 01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.840 this person is in good physical condition. To be able 1605 01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:33.439 to go out and compete and be a part of 1606 01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:33.880 the show. 1607 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:35.920 That's what we did. 1608 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:40.960 So if that is getting in his way, then yeah, 1609 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:43.640 we got in his way. But we're taking care of 1610 01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:46.720 the company. We're taking care of business because just the 1611 01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:50.600 business was changing. Couldn't just take someone's word and say, yep, okay, 1612 01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:54.800 I'm clear to go now after you've told me, and 1613 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.279 after you've got a doctor say no, you're not good. 1614 01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.399 So it was I think it was the first time 1615 01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:05.079 that he was really being challenged on some of these things. 1616 01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.399 And if that's the case, then that's case. 1617 01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:09.600 You were saying, boss. 1618 01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:12.600 Well, so he says like, oh, we got you know, 1619 01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:14.039 we at least we got it on you know, we 1620 01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:17.039 had WrestleMania. We got WrestleMania from him, and we got 1621 01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:18.439 the belt onto It's like, wh why didn't you give 1622 01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:21.439 the bell to take her fucking in February at the 1623 01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.520 final four? Then yeah, that was your big problem. 1624 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.239 Yeah, it's it's it's it's an interesting call. I mean, 1625 01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.840 I think probably started to be a good match for 1626 01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:30.760 WrestleMania they were going to do. I think one of 1627 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:32.600 the things we figured out doing this whole thing is 1628 01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:34.279 that they were going to do Sid Undertaker title or 1629 01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:38.239 no title at WrestleMania, right, right, So if you're going 1630 01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:40.239 to do that, if it's going to be a championship 1631 01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:41.760 match all of a sudden, might as well have Taker 1632 01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:44.359 win it at Mania instead of Final Four. I guess 1633 01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:46.720 that was always supposed to be the show to figure 1634 01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:49.840 out what to do without Sean there and bridge the gap. 1635 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.520 But yeah, so this is you know, to hear Bruce 1636 01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:55.800 tell it, this is people challenging Sid. You know, these 1637 01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:57.840 these up the these injuries that seemed to come up 1638 01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:00.319 right at the same time that they're proposing he do 1639 01:25:00.439 --> 01:25:02.880 something that they probably think he doesn't want to do. 1640 01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:08.079 Enough of those strange coincidences, and they, like we said, 1641 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:11.239 they thought they were going to, you know, catch him 1642 01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.359 in the act, catch him in a lie by engaging 1643 01:25:13.359 --> 01:25:15.000 the doctor. And I'm not sure that didn't just make 1644 01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:21.159 everything a lot worse. And Pritchard on his show goes 1645 01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:22.960 on to say that they were still hopeful come that 1646 01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:25.880 in your house, that Sid would show up and Ross 1647 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:30.159 before that, and he says he thinks Vince felt that 1648 01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:31.920 if we put him there and gave him the opportunity, 1649 01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:33.439 he's going to see it. And he's going to come back, 1650 01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:37.640 but of course that wouldn't be the case come early June. 1651 01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:40.159 There's a barding that said was supposed to return on 1652 01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:42.760 the May thirtieth show in San Jose, but claimed he 1653 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:48.039 had the flu. It wouldn't be back until June twenty eighth. 1654 01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:49.199 He had to flew the coop. 1655 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:51.920 He flew the coop exactly. But he does come back 1656 01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:55.960 June's second, nineteen ninety seven in Huntington, West Virginia, and 1657 01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:57.800 not only does he come back, we get that result 1658 01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.000 that tells us he's been a naughty boy. He loses 1659 01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.119 to the Undertaker in five minutes. 1660 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:03.319 Wow. 1661 01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:07.159 There was a rematch on Raw between Undertaker and Sid 1662 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:11.800 in June of nineteen ninety seven, and Undertaker does an interview, 1663 01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:15.720 you know, kind of laying out what he's become since 1664 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.920 beating Sid and makes a comment about ruling the world, 1665 01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.319 and that brings out Sid, who challenges him to a 1666 01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:23.880 match later in the show. Then Taker beats him quickly. 1667 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:26.680 And Meltzer was reporting at the time that when Sid 1668 01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:29.000 showed up, they told him he's doing a job for 1669 01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:31.760 Undertaker and he didn't want to do it, and he 1670 01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:33.319 and was given. 1671 01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:37.319 When the belt back parent. Did we say that's the thing? 1672 01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:39.359 Did we say that that was going to happen? Wait, 1673 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:40.720 you thought we were going to put the belt back 1674 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:43.000 on you? When you put the belt back on you, 1675 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:45.680 That's why I came back, I said, just someone told me, 1676 01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:48.119 because you told me this man that you're giving me 1677 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:48.880 the belt back. 1678 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:50.680 Was the name of the person that told you this? 1679 01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:54.840 Was it Sid? By any chance? Did did Sid tell 1680 01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:56.600 you this that? Or tell you? What? 1681 01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:56.760 Was it? 1682 01:26:56.920 --> 01:26:57.079 Bo? 1683 01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:04.159 Was it? Oh? Shit? Was it bo? Justice? 1684 01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:08.720 Does Bow know Pal? Does Bow know the finish is 1685 01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:09.680 Bow and the No? 1686 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:15.800 Shit, that's a good question. Or does Bow blow? I'm well, 1687 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:19.479 you're talking pale right now, you're talking crazy. But I 1688 01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.399 want to tell you exactly who it was, yes that 1689 01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:24.359 told me I was going to get the title back? 1690 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:27.359 All right, I'm all here, and believe me. I'm all ears, 1691 01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:30.359 and I want to get my firing hand ready because 1692 01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:36.039 someone's gotten fucking fired. It was stens nick Man. Wow, 1693 01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:43.319 Uh who I'm fired? Do you know? I gotta go? Bye? 1694 01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:45.399 And it was given some threats, according to Meltzer, s 1695 01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.000 to his future employment and finally agreed to lose to Undertaker. 1696 01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.800 As a result of that, A pictcher just talked about 1697 01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:56.880 remembering that and Sid saying something's defective. Well, you're bringing 1698 01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:58.079 me back and I'm gonna go out and do a 1699 01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:01.119 job tonight. What good will I be after that? And 1700 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:03.359 Pritchard's thought is, exactly what good have you been for 1701 01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:05.279 not showing up for all this last bird of die? 1702 01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:08.239 So at least let us get a win on television 1703 01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:10.680 for the top guy and see what happens from there. 1704 01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:12.840 But Richard said he just didn't understand why he was 1705 01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:14.479 being brought back to do a job. And our feeling 1706 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:16.039 was you're being brought back so that we can get 1707 01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:18.439 something back on television because we're really not sure what 1708 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:19.159 the future is. 1709 01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:23.640 Why you have me lose, well, because that's you know, 1710 01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:25.720 you When you lose something, that's the way it goes. 1711 01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:26.640 I don't lose. 1712 01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:31.079 People don't believe that I lose because I'm a shooter. 1713 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:36.720 Excuse me, don't you remember a shooter? Don't you remember 1714 01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:38.119 that magazine feature you did on me? 1715 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:46.720 Impty, I hunt uh hunt game. 1716 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:51.000 This. 1717 01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:55.199 I saw your meeting there with Big Sid. What's on 1718 01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:55.920 his mind? 1719 01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:59.479 Oh? I'm telling you he's hunting you, hunting me? 1720 01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:00.760 Huh, that's he said. 1721 01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:05.199 He's hunting game. He's hunting hunter. 1722 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:07.680 The hunter is becoming the hunted bell. 1723 01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:12.199 The hunter hunter. You're being hunted by a hunter hunter. 1724 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:14.560 Let me ask you a question, Pelle. If I asked 1725 01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.520 you to stand naked in the middle of Times Square 1726 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:19.239 and deface yourself. 1727 01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:21.119 Would you do that? Would you do that? 1728 01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:22.000 Would do that? 1729 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.720 If I told you to do it? Would you do that? 1730 01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:25.319 Would you do that? Would you be a good son 1731 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.560 and do that for me? Go out to Times Square naked? 1732 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.199 All right, touch yourself and like wave it around. 1733 01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:38.600 How do you prove you prove loyalty to events? You 1734 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:40.640 masturbate to completion in Times Square? 1735 01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:45.920 I would like you to do to pleasure yourself in 1736 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.159 Times Square. I want you to lay on lay on 1737 01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:51.439 the ground, all right, lay on the ground in Times 1738 01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:55.199 Square naked, and I want you to pleasure yourself to completion. 1739 01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.000 Paul, this is Jack and JP. They host the Lapsed 1740 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:04.720 Fan podcast. Actually, oh, you're the guys that, uh, you 1741 01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:07.520 guys would talk about, you know, wrestlers jerking off all 1742 01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:09.279 over themselves. And so if you guys talk a lot 1743 01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:11.560 about Dix, I always think that's kind of weird. You 1744 01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:16.640 can't picture his face right now? Yeah, totally to laugh 1745 01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:18.880 at us, Well, weren't you telling people to suck it 1746 01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:23.640 for years? Didn't you kind of go half naked during 1747 01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.000 the beginnings of d X, you know all the time. 1748 01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:29.880 I mean, oh, I was a kid. 1749 01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:34.800 These guys thought it was a shoot. You believe these guys, 1750 01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:37.840 Oh my god, Well like his chrow magnan forehead and 1751 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:38.840 his bald head. 1752 01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:43.880 Oh god, his bracelets. You guys need a little you know, 1753 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.359 you guys need a little uh, you know, a little 1754 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:54.319 dose of reality. Guys working you know, God's been working 1755 01:30:54.359 --> 01:30:55.319 your gimmick too much. 1756 01:30:56.319 --> 01:30:58.399 I don't know if you know the the LAPS fan podcast. 1757 01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:00.119 Oh yeah, yeah, you guys are the who who oh 1758 01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:06.800 whoa whoa guys, right, so uh ah giving us every 1759 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:09.319 indication at the time, Bruce says of Sid that Sid 1760 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:10.760 didn't know what his future was in the company, And 1761 01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:13.239 in fact, if you look through the tea leaves at 1762 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:17.039 the time, there was some overtures clearly being made from 1763 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:21.119 Sid towards WCW. And I do wonder if, yeah, when 1764 01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:23.000 he got that pregnant pause there, I do wonder if 1765 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:26.560 he kind of a called WCW in frustration when he 1766 01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:28.199 realized they were taking the strap off of him. 1767 01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:30.560 What's the problem, Why why not tell that? Though that 1768 01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:32.399 seems like a weird thing not to tell. 1769 01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:35.359 You talked about sid not telling it. Yeah, yeah, well 1770 01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:39.520 probably there's legal sensitivities about opening up those conversations before 1771 01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:43.399 the contract is expired. That's always been like a two. 1772 01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:44.239 Even this far out. 1773 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:47.279 Yeah, yeah, like that's always been a two faced thing 1774 01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:48.920 about wrestling. Were like it was like a big deal 1775 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:50.720 when Jericho in his book talked about like coming to 1776 01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:52.840 Vince's living room table a dining room table when he 1777 01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:55.159 was still under w'sw contract. Because that's tampering. You're not 1778 01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:57.800 supposed to you're not supposed to be going after somebody 1779 01:31:57.800 --> 01:31:59.560 that gives the other company legal recourse. But of course 1780 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:02.199 everybody does it. You just don't admit you're doing it. 1781 01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:04.640 But you usually send out feelers through back channels and things, 1782 01:32:04.680 --> 01:32:06.079 and you know word gets back to them. You want 1783 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:07.359 word to get back to them because you want them 1784 01:32:07.399 --> 01:32:09.920 to sweeten the pot. You want them to suddenly take 1785 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.039 your demands more seriously because they're afraid you're going to jump, 1786 01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:13.800 and you need them to know that to get that leverage. 1787 01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.439 But at the same time, you can't be too explicit 1788 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:17.960 about it. This is me hypothesizing what may have been 1789 01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:20.720 going through Sid's firing neurons when he paused there in 1790 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:22.920 that interview. But yeah, this is the time too when 1791 01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:25.600 people like Shan's going to WCW. Remember that did the 1792 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.760 whole backstage fight with Brett and he's going to go 1793 01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:30.560 right to Nitro and all that shit. This was that 1794 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:32.479 time where it's like, what's the next shoot to drop 1795 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:35.560 on the big migration to WCW. And it would shock 1796 01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:37.439 me if SID didn't find a way to get his 1797 01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:39.920 name in that sauce. So I think that's what Bruce 1798 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:42.960 Richard is intimating. There and there and there was There 1799 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:44.960 was like a one off clipping I found looking at 1800 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:47.600 news coverage of Sid, mainstream news coverage of SID in 1801 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:49.920 nineteen ninety seven, where it's trip up said he's heading 1802 01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:52.720 to WCW. It was completely unsourced. The cares like one 1803 01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:55.760 of these, like you know, local wrestling newspaper columnists. They 1804 01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:58.479 don't have any sourcing or anything like that, but for 1805 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:01.359 some reason bold enough to declare it's going to happen. 1806 01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:02.000 Of course it didn't. 1807 01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:03.520 Wow, But uh, you know. 1808 01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:06.159 That usually bubbles up to the surface because there's some 1809 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:07.399 fire to the smoke. 1810 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:24.359 It's the Lasall Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 1811 01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:42.439 the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's 1812 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.680 the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio and 1813 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:47.640 JP Sorrow. 1814 01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:50.119 But it continues for Sid. He hits Lowell on June six, 1815 01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:52.439 ninety seven, teaming with Shawn Michaels and Steve Austin. There's 1816 01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:55.119 a three man team for you. Yeah, I tell you 1817 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:56.920 that's crazy if you think O. When Bulldog and Jim 1818 01:33:56.960 --> 01:33:59.760 Knightheart they moved to Portland and Maine for the same match. 1819 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:01.159 And then King of the Ring like you mentioned, takes 1820 01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:03.800 place June eight, ninety seven in Providence and on that show, 1821 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:05.800 Jim Knighthart Owen Hart and British Bulldog from the Heart 1822 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.520 Foundation they defeat. Do you recall who. 1823 01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:12.600 Sidneylod Well done on. 1824 01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:14.399 The show said on the losing end, once again, you 1825 01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:17.800 can tell this isn't going anywhere in particular. Then there's 1826 01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:20.039 the June ninth, nineteen ninety seven row. This is the 1827 01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:22.560 infamous one in Hartford where Brett rips out some of 1828 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.319 Shawn Michael's hair backstage. On that show, Undertaker, Sid and 1829 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:29.279 Ken Shamrock defeat Jim Knighthart, owen Hart and the British Bulldog. 1830 01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:31.960 So kind of pushing in the direction there of SID 1831 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:35.760 of being aligned against Team Canada against the Heart Foundation. Yeah, 1832 01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:38.960 ros Ward June ninth, ninety seven, Harvard Civic Center. The 1833 01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:42.199 next the same night, he defeats owen Hart. That's probably 1834 01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:45.159 taping for the next week. They go to Montreal June 1835 01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.760 thirteenth of nineteen ninety seven, where the Bulldog defeats SID 1836 01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:49.800 in the European title match, and then they go to 1837 01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:52.880 Toronto on June fourteenth, where owen Hart defeats SID for 1838 01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:55.560 the Intercontinental title. So if he's taken back to back 1839 01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:59.119 losses here in Canada, you can tell this is us 1840 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.039 definitely out of the SID business and they're definitely trying 1841 01:35:03.079 --> 01:35:05.399 to get as many wins over him as they can. 1842 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:07.560 And these were the these are house shows or these 1843 01:35:07.560 --> 01:35:08.720 are on TV the house shows? 1844 01:35:09.239 --> 01:35:12.920 Okay, Yeah, the TV one was the six Man and 1845 01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:16.000 him beating owen gotcha. So they're not even having to 1846 01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:18.279 lose on But there must have been something that fell 1847 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:21.520 apart around that June ninth raw taping in Hartford, where 1848 01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:23.359 you know the next two shots they have he's losing 1849 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:25.199 to Bulldog and Owen in Canada. There's got to be 1850 01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:27.680 that had to be some last straw argument or something 1851 01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:29.560 like fuck this, We're not doing this anymore kind of thing. 1852 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:34.199 This appeared in the June sixteenth, nineteen ninety seven Canadian 1853 01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:37.840 Press out of Hawkesbury, Ontario. It's about to get a 1854 01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:40.520 lot more complicated because even if they were throwing in 1855 01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.439 the towel on sid as, those match results indicate their 1856 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:49.760 hand would also kind of be forced. Hawkesbury, Ontario, four 1857 01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:53.439 World Wrestling Federation superstars were turned home Monday, banged up 1858 01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:56.159 with cuts and bruises after the car they were in 1859 01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:59.520 flipped at oh Boy and route to About in suburb 1860 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.600 and Ottawa. On Sunday, they were in a Lincoln Continental 1861 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:05.880 that hit a soft shoulder of Highway forty near Point Fortune, Quebec, 1862 01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:09.319 about two kilometers from the Ontario border, said Quebec Provincial 1863 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:12.880 Police spokesman Pierre Robischowed. They were heading from rap from 1864 01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:16.319 Montreal to the Choral Center in Cannata, Ontario, for the 1865 01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:21.399 WWF Canadian Challenge on Sunday night. WWF spokeswoman Joe Anne Rougeau, 1866 01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:25.279 that's gotta be j Jacques. Joe's a daughter or something. 1867 01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.479 Joe Ann Rujeau said, Psycho Sid really named Sid, Udy, 1868 01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:31.479 flash Funk, Charles Skaggs, and Flash Funk is always around 1869 01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:35.159 when Sid when happens, but it's going down. 1870 01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:36.319 Uh. 1871 01:36:36.359 --> 01:36:39.000 Philipon and Doug Furnace or Dwight Furnace were in the 1872 01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:43.239 car when it tumbled three or four times. Wow, the 1873 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:46.560 passenger side was totally crushed, she said from Montreal. The 1874 01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:48.800 car is totaled. I bet you can't even tell the color. 1875 01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:51.840 She said. It appeared Furnace suffered the most serious injury, 1876 01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:54.399 a broken shoulder blade, while the Fawn suffered a concussion 1877 01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:55.760 and cuts to his scalp. And this would be the 1878 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:59.520 end of Furnace and the Fawn and WWF boss right here. No, 1879 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.000 it's a result of these injuries. They pretty much know 1880 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:04.600 the push, the push. They come back, but no one 1881 01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:05.159 kiss a fuck. 1882 01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:05.560 It's over. 1883 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:07.319 It's over. 1884 01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:10.840 They're in srivs at seven, right, it's over. 1885 01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:12.439 Ah, that's sad. 1886 01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:15.920 Skaggs was unheard except for bruises, while Udy, the six 1887 01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.399 foot ten, three hundred and twenty pound former WWF champion, 1888 01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:20.680 was experiencing numbness in his arms. 1889 01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:21.399 And legs. M. 1890 01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:25.720 Yeah, well, let's talk about after the crash. Enough of 1891 01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:28.680 a before the crash. They're all having a hard time moving, 1892 01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.600 Rajau said, adding everyone with the exception of Lafawn was 1893 01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:33.560 headed home to the United States. Lafun is from Quebec 1894 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:36.319 but resides in Calgary. Roubischoud said the driver lost control 1895 01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:41.199 while trying to adjust the sun roof. Beauty was behind 1896 01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:41.760 the wheel. 1897 01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.520 Police, you get your rashed down steering i'sta sun roof. 1898 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:49.600 Sid was bunched up his knees to the steering wheel, 1899 01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:52.039 steering with his thumb and index finger in both hands. 1900 01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:53.039 Absolutely. 1901 01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:56.439 Claire Diamond, a spokeswoman at Hawkesbury General Hospital, where the 1902 01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:58.479 four were taken, said that they were all treated and released. 1903 01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:00.399 On Sunday night, the show with the core set up 1904 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:02.760 before five thousand fans, was delayed for about thirty minutes 1905 01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:08.359 while organizers scrambled to change the car. So a faithful 1906 01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:13.520 ride in Canada leads to yet another injury, hiatus and 1907 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.720 hiccup for one Sid Uti. Let's let's take it to 1908 01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:19.159 sit in a shooting interview talking about what happened in 1909 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:19.680 this incident. 1910 01:38:20.960 --> 01:38:23.720 Right after that, we were well for Montreal Canada. That's 1911 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:29.159 when I flipped the car. And that's when the complete 1912 01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:33.159 best serving body is completely up. And at first I 1913 01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:35.680 was when I'd gotten home. I was put in the 1914 01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:39.199 hospital for almost twenty four hours, but I was on 1915 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:42.439 machines that they thought I had a stroke? Did they 1916 01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.319 take that rays of everything but my neck? And then 1917 01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:47.239 the next day I went to a neurology is that's 1918 01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:49.119 the very first thing the actually and they saw the 1919 01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:52.319 broken vertebrat was pinched up against my spinal cord and 1920 01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:54.479 that's what it was causing the numbness in my left 1921 01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.920 I wouldn't suffer any strength in it. I just could 1922 01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:03.520 feel anything, I mean everything body when I mean really, Wow. 1923 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:06.119 That's weird, total numbness boss. 1924 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:08.560 Starting in the brain. 1925 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:11.760 A bad set of circumstances here for sid, no question, 1926 01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:14.279 And of course there's always that twist of they forgot 1927 01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:17.840 to do an MRI of the brain, but they did 1928 01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:20.239 a scan of everything else on the first doctor's visit. Wow, 1929 01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:22.880 And then the next day there's got to be something there. 1930 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:24.720 There's got to be some reason. He pointed that out. 1931 01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:27.319 But whatever it is, and he clearly was banged up 1932 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:29.119 from this accident, I don't think anybody quibbles with that. 1933 01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:31.439 But the degree of injury I think is sort of 1934 01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:35.960 a case dependent on his perception of what they might 1935 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.920 do with him bringing him back into the fold, of course. 1936 01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:41.760 And uh, obviously it was legit injury as others suffered 1937 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:45.079 injuries and had a difficult and long rehab process ahead 1938 01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:48.560 of them. But that that's why Sid disappeared before that 1939 01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:50.640 San Antonio raw that you remember him coming out at. 1940 01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:55.119 Interesting is this car accident because he was on RAM 1941 01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:58.680 before and then he wasn't. But it's pretty wild that 1942 01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:00.800 before the car accident happened, he was taking those losses 1943 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:05.800 like that on that Canadian swing. Yeah, you know, because 1944 01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:07.279 that's always that always foretells. 1945 01:40:07.079 --> 01:40:09.560 A lot of losses. Yeah, that's usually. Yeah, he's on 1946 01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:10.119 his way out. 1947 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:12.479 I always foretell something for Big Sid, who is behind 1948 01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:14.720 the wheel in this car accident, But it is. It 1949 01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:18.399 is July fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven. Row comes to San Antonio, 1950 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:21.399 texashean Michael's hometown. He's there with Bells on as well, 1951 01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:24.439 having come back from losing his smile and winning the 1952 01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:27.359 tag titles with Steve Austin on Raw YEP Wrestling. Steve 1953 01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:28.920 Austin at the king of the ring, one on one 1954 01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:31.439 kind of forming like you know, even though they wrestled 1955 01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:34.039 each other, they were still sort of aligned. They were 1956 01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:35.720 still on the same side of the baby face heel 1957 01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:39.199 ledger if you will, And here comes Sid. Sid comes back, 1958 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:42.000 and Sid comes back curiously, not in the usual gear, 1959 01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:44.960 not showing off his physique, but he's in a black 1960 01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:48.720 turtleneck with a jacket and black pants. Yes, and there's 1961 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:50.640 a lot to that, but first let's hear it. This 1962 01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:53.640 is what you remember, boss. This is the segment on 1963 01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:56.720 that July fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven episode of Raw in 1964 01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:00.800 San Antonio where we see Sid for the first time 1965 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:05.479 since the car accident, but for the last time in 1966 01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:58.720 the w w F at a high level. Can Sherman 1967 01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:14.479 joining sewn on the Steve on the stage, the Patriot 1968 01:42:14.560 --> 01:43:32.279 del Wilkes so much excitement. Ah yeah, seriously, do you 1969 01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:34.920 remember they had the Heart Foundation in the ring, and 1970 01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:38.159 then one by one, with Steve Austin's music playing the 1971 01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:41.800 whole time, they bring him out. They bring out Ken Shamrock, 1972 01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:44.319 they bring out the Patriot, who was brand new to 1973 01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:47.159 the WWF at that time. Yeah, that's wild, pretty sure, 1974 01:43:47.199 --> 01:43:49.520 this is his first appearance before the people in WWF 1975 01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:52.600 standing shouldered shoulder with Steve Austin and on the Titan 1976 01:43:52.640 --> 01:43:54.680 tron by the way, they have Old Glory the American 1977 01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:59.479 flag waving, and then they bring out Sid and you 1978 01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:02.159 heard the people go especially nuts for the reappearance of 1979 01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:06.760 Sid standing tall behind Steve Austin and before the American flag. 1980 01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:10.239 And then Shawn Michaels comes out. You know, he's not 1981 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:12.479 ready for battle. He's dressed in like his fucking khaki 1982 01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:14.800 shorts or whatever he would be wearing in the summertime 1983 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:18.560 back then. But it's wild, like, how much more interesting 1984 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:22.159 would Canadian Stampede be if it was Steve Austin, Sean Michaels, 1985 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:24.800 Sid the Patriot, and Ken Shamrock instead of what we 1986 01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:26.159 can right. 1987 01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:28.560 Crazy? 1988 01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:31.079 This segment indicates that's what they had in mind, the 1989 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:33.640 storyline being Owen and Bulldog as tag champs. We're going 1990 01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:36.600 to defend against some combination of all those guys and 1991 01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:38.760 it would be decided and revealed later on in the show. 1992 01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:43.079 The typical ratings ploy who indeed would get those those shots, 1993 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:45.960 and it ended up being Steve Austin, and none of 1994 01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:48.520 the people on the stage do you remember how this 1995 01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:51.640 episode of Row concludes who joins forces with Stone Cold 1996 01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:55.119 Dude Love, Dude Love. It's the debut YEP of Mick 1997 01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:58.159 Foley as Dude Love YEP on the July fourteenth, nineteen 1998 01:44:58.199 --> 01:45:01.399 ninety seven Raw, and throughout the course of the evening, 1999 01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:05.920 we hear backstage from everyone who joined Steve Austin on 2000 01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:09.399 the stage, from the Patriot to Ken Shamrock to Shawn Michaels, 2001 01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:12.359 all kind of describing while why they're in the hunt 2002 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:14.560 and while they were aligning themselves with Steve Austin here 2003 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:17.560 in pursuit of the tag team championships in Warfare with 2004 01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:21.760 the Hard Foundation. But we don't hear from Sid, but 2005 01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:26.039 he went home. We see you say that, we see Sid, 2006 01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:29.279 but he's the only one we don't hear from a 2007 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.439 curious choice, but to hear Jim Cornette tell it, who, 2008 01:45:32.479 --> 01:45:36.079 of course was serving in the executive capacity at the 2009 01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:40.600 time and certainly was was no fan of Sid's prior 2010 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:47.000 behavior and business dealings, had the unfortunate and unenviable task 2011 01:45:47.079 --> 01:45:49.960 of trying to corral Sid for not only in appearance 2012 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:53.520 on this episode of Raw, but also for a post 2013 01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:57.199 segment promo. Much like the others did, and there's a 2014 01:45:57.319 --> 01:46:01.359 very clear reason why said didn't make it, and we're 2015 01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:02.680 going to get to that right now. This is from 2016 01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:05.279 Jim Cornett's podcast, and we also get a little glimpse 2017 01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:07.880 of what, well, let's say, the negotiation was ahead of 2018 01:46:07.920 --> 01:46:11.039 this episode of Rossid's final appearance on WWF television here 2019 01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:15.840 and how there were some terms that had to be 2020 01:46:15.920 --> 01:46:17.880 reached before Sid would get on the plane. 2021 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:22.079 Of course, it was the goddamn San Antonio, the Joe 2022 01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:26.079 and Harry Freeman Colisseum. Because I remember I was so 2023 01:46:26.239 --> 01:46:28.680 hot that I was ill and almost threw up by 2024 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.199 the time I got back the hotel room. 2025 01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:32.359 It was like one hundred and ten in San Antonio 2026 01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:34.159 that day, and. 2027 01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:37.319 Vince had insisted he come. 2028 01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:40.920 He'd been off because he was injured, and Vince had 2029 01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.319 me calling, and I called and got his wife because 2030 01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:48.520 he was out. He was playing softball or he took 2031 01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:54.840 the softball team to Oceola or somewhere in Arkansas. And 2032 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:59.920 I said, Vince wants him, you know, at raw Monday night. 2033 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:01.800 He doesn't have to wrestle. He know he's hurt, but 2034 01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:04.319 he's got to make an interview appearance and do part 2035 01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:05.039 of this deal. 2036 01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:05.399 Right. 2037 01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:09.279 Oh, he's not gonna like that. He hasn't had time 2038 01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:12.880 to train lately. He doesn't feel well. I said, he's 2039 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:13.640 not wrestling. 2040 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:16.880 How bad could he look in a fucking month. 2041 01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:18.600 I'm thinking to myself, we haven't said him in a 2042 01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:22.600 fucking month. How what could he have deteriorated too? And 2043 01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:28.279 she said, you know, Sids often said that he he 2044 01:47:28.399 --> 01:47:30.399 thought he might be happier if he went back to 2045 01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:35.039 selling farm chemicals. I don't know whether she's trying to 2046 01:47:35.279 --> 01:47:37.479 just pour her heart out to me or negotiate with 2047 01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:39.680 me on his behalf, like you better give me more money. 2048 01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:43.960 He might go back to selling farm chemicals. And I said, 2049 01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:47.479 I said, nevertheless, Vince wants in there. He's sending a 2050 01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:50.880 plane ticket Monday, San Antonio. He's going to do this 2051 01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:51.560 interview thing. 2052 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:51.920 Right. 2053 01:47:53.439 --> 01:47:58.319 So he shows up and I Katie remember the particulars. 2054 01:47:58.439 --> 01:48:01.960 But the four top baby face whoever they were at 2055 01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:05.039 this point in time, was michaels Is whoever the fuck? 2056 01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:09.239 They all come out on the stage and confront the 2057 01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:12.000 group of heels in the in the ring, and Sid 2058 01:48:12.159 --> 01:48:14.479 is one of them, and he he didn't take his 2059 01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:16.960 shirt off, He's dressed his streak gloves. He didn't take 2060 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:19.600 his shirt off because he felt like he hadn't tanned 2061 01:48:20.760 --> 01:48:24.840 like Jesus Christ. And then they were supposed to come 2062 01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:26.920 back at the top of the hour seg seven and 2063 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.760 that was when Raw was a two hour show and 2064 01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:33.439 do some kind of run in and whatever and pay 2065 01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:36.640 the thing off. And we started looking around for where 2066 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:42.359 Sid that's right, and asked Bruno, you know RV Whippelman Downtown. 2067 01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:45.359 Bruno because they went back to the Memphis days and. 2068 01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:49.840 That was his manager of said justice, yes, and we 2069 01:48:49.960 --> 01:48:53.760 said where Sid. Oh. He came up to me. 2070 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:56.720 He said he felt like he was having a heart attack. 2071 01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:58.119 I said, who, where'd you take you for? I took 2072 01:48:58.199 --> 01:49:00.600 him back to the hotel? What the holiday inn? 2073 01:49:00.840 --> 01:49:01.640 For a heart attack? 2074 01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:04.279 He said, just waiting to go back to the hotel 2075 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:05.319 is so hot? 2076 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:09.000 The jeez, so he made he didn't make that segment. 2077 01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:11.640 He doesn't. You don't see him for the rest of 2078 01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:17.439 the show. Nope, he had a heart attack. That's just 2079 01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:21.119 I mean, come on, I mean, look at that. That's 2080 01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:23.039 that's that's that's what happens. 2081 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:25.800 Why are we making light of all the challenges the 2082 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:26.439 man's facing. 2083 01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:32.680 I know, I know, look I had a heart attack. 2084 01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:37.199 What you sound all right? I may have had a 2085 01:49:37.239 --> 01:49:39.039 heart attack. Oh that's not what you said the first time. 2086 01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:42.840 Tell you you said you had a heart attack. I 2087 01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:49.880 had a condition, a condition. I may have had something 2088 01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:53.640 happen to me. I cannot talk about it. Well, you've 2089 01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:55.760 been talking about it the last two minutes. 2090 01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:57.520 I may have had something happen to me that I 2091 01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:05.319 cannot talk about. Now, Cornette opens up a very important vein, 2092 01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:09.119 I think, for us. In our Sid tribute, Sabrina answered 2093 01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:13.359 the phone Sid's wife, Oh, yes, and I do invite 2094 01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:18.960 you to consider Sid, pantomiming over her shoulder Patterson Vince 2095 01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:22.279 style while she's talking to Cornette about this raw appearance, 2096 01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:24.640 pretending he's not home. But she was really good at 2097 01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:31.880 doing if I may make a supposition there and and basically, 2098 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:34.560 you know, sometimes Sid just feels like you just go 2099 01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:35.960 back to selling form chemicals. 2100 01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:36.520 You believe. 2101 01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:41.359 She says that, Oh it's so, it's so rich, you know, 2102 01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:44.159 she's just so predemptibly. 2103 01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:47.840 I think he's you know, he's he's been talking about 2104 01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:51.399 he just wants to say molans, you know, that's what 2105 01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:52.119 he wants to do. 2106 01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:52.680 Now. 2107 01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:55.840 I think he's kind of over the whole wrestling. He's 2108 01:50:55.880 --> 01:50:56.840 wants to mo Loans. 2109 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:59.760 I think it's his home, his his his, his business 2110 01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:02.840 that he set up. The catchphrase is kicking grass, and 2111 01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:05.920 he's gonna be out there turning over a new leaf 2112 01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:07.600 in life. You know, sometimes I just think Sid just 2113 01:51:07.680 --> 01:51:12.000 wish you'd go back to selling farm chemicals, so stupid. 2114 01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:16.119 Oh my god, she thinks like and she thinks like 2115 01:51:16.239 --> 01:51:19.479 she's going to get them to agree to pay him 2116 01:51:19.479 --> 01:51:21.680 more to show up, right, No, And he's in the 2117 01:51:21.720 --> 01:51:25.159 back like making gestures like, okay, tell him a care cop. 2118 01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:27.880 Tell him I wish, I wish I'll go back to 2119 01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:29.319 selling form chemicals. Tell him that. 2120 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:34.119 Tell him so Brina, he was go top tail the 2121 01:51:34.279 --> 01:51:36.800 could they sell farm things? 2122 01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:41.520 And it's just not Yeah, it's just not easy to 2123 01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:43.840 get Sid to show up, and it's not easy to 2124 01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:45.920 get Sid to do anything at this point, and so 2125 01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:49.079 you can start to see that the challenge is when 2126 01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:51.840 he disappears and Bruno, who's of course the first guy 2127 01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:53.119 he went to when he had to skip town in 2128 01:51:53.159 --> 01:51:55.920 ninety two, remember that whole fiasco, yep, as they high 2129 01:51:55.960 --> 01:51:59.520 tailed it from a to to Logan airport because the 2130 01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:02.319 STENSI the warrior didn't want to do business and he 2131 01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:06.079 had enough. While simultaneously there was the whole issue of 2132 01:52:06.239 --> 01:52:09.000 a failed drug test around WrestleMania eight. That was also 2133 01:52:09.039 --> 01:52:12.439 an issue, and it's more severe cracking down on steroid 2134 01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:15.039 use in the company. And yeah, Bruno is just the 2135 01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:16.880 guy he turns to to say, you're coming with me, 2136 01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:19.199 you're booking the flight or whatever the hell you're doing, 2137 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:23.520 you're facilitating my flight in the middle of the night. 2138 01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:25.920 Here my fleeing of the territory, and you're coming with me, 2139 01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:27.439 whether you'd like it or not. Brune of course did 2140 01:52:27.479 --> 01:52:29.960 not go and stayed there and managed other people. And 2141 01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:31.640 then by the time Sid came back, I guess they 2142 01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:35.199 rekindled the friendship. Never really heard that there was a 2143 01:52:35.279 --> 01:52:39.680 falling out between those two, interestingly enough, but it's telling 2144 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.239 that with Sid missing as he's due to make an 2145 01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:45.520 appearance on the flagship television show, that Bruno is the 2146 01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:47.319 only person in the building who knows about this heart 2147 01:52:47.359 --> 01:52:52.560 attack or this field or suspected heart attack. And over 2148 01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:55.560 in WCW is oh, no, that had already happened. I 2149 01:52:55.640 --> 01:52:56.840 was going to make a smartness comment. 2150 01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:59.439 No, no, no, no, it was going to be. 2151 01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:04.600 Ninety seven, Starkad Nash and Giant, Right, yes so yeah 2152 01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:08.880 so over in and Atlanta, Kevin Nash takes careful notes 2153 01:53:10.039 --> 01:53:13.920 about what to say when he's penciled into job to 2154 01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:18.239 the Giant at Star Kid. So there go Sid, not 2155 01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:20.840 only once again, but kind of for the last time. 2156 01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:23.960 Yeah, it really is. I mean he comes back with 2157 01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:28.079 like little one off things after w W gets sold, 2158 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:28.560 but that's. 2159 01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:32.159 It really only once. Yeah, and Doc Hendricks promote SummerSlam 2160 01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:34.439 to the New York audience. According to this piece of 2161 01:53:34.520 --> 01:53:37.600 reporting on the syndicated shows that reach New York, and 2162 01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:40.720 they're listing a series of matches for Summer Slam ninety seven, 2163 01:53:40.760 --> 01:53:46.560 including Vader versus Sid, Wow, Brett hartbers Undertaker, which Shawn 2164 01:53:46.600 --> 01:53:48.640 Michael's a special ref one, the Owen Hart versus Steve 2165 01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:51.479 Boston neck break match. All that I was supposed to 2166 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:52.760 feature Sid versus Vader. 2167 01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:55.640 How about that? That that's fascinating. No one have been interesting. 2168 01:53:56.359 --> 01:53:58.640 There's also something I want to put here, but I 2169 01:53:58.800 --> 01:54:02.079 want to have couch it, and I do it in 2170 01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:04.439 the spirit of hoping somebody can primary source this one 2171 01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:07.319 for us. There's long been a thing about how Sid 2172 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:12.319 had a squirrel, a pet squirrel, and that he would 2173 01:54:12.319 --> 01:54:16.600 take it with him on the road, and that one 2174 01:54:16.680 --> 01:54:19.640 day the other wrestlers dared him to keep the squirrel 2175 01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:22.199 down his pants for a minute, bet him he couldn't 2176 01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:24.880 do it, and that he accepted, And after about thirty 2177 01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:27.479 seconds he got bit in the dick and he fell 2178 01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:30.880 on the floor in agony, crushing the squirrel in the process, 2179 01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:31.239 and had to. 2180 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:32.560 Get Raby's shop. Oh my god. 2181 01:54:33.479 --> 01:54:35.000 So you can see if that actually happened, how no 2182 01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:36.000 one would ever forget it. 2183 01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:37.039 Now. 2184 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:39.439 SID has been asked about this point blank in interviews 2185 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:41.640 and just has no clue what people are talking about 2186 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:44.439 in a way that I don't think strange credulity like 2187 01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:48.640 the usual. I have no idea SID answer. Yeah, So 2188 01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:50.720 there really wasn't a lot more to go on than 2189 01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:53.199 this persistent rumor. And I'm trying to figure out and 2190 01:54:53.239 --> 01:54:55.279 people have emailed us about it, knowing that we're doing 2191 01:54:55.279 --> 01:54:57.359 a SID tribute, wanting us to talk about and I 2192 01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:00.520 just can't find out where this comes from from. That 2193 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:03.640 there used to be this long form thread called like 2194 01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:06.439 the sleeze or something. It was like a huge document 2195 01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:08.439 full of all these like one line or things that 2196 01:55:08.520 --> 01:55:11.520 people whisper about the other wrestlers, okay, and the sick 2197 01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.960 things they've done or or might do or will do. 2198 01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:18.079 And this may have been from that anonymously sourced famous 2199 01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:20.720 forum post with all these things, this may have been 2200 01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:22.880 something someone said about Sid as far as I could tell. 2201 01:55:23.159 --> 01:55:25.159 But if anybody knows kind of who the first person 2202 01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.119 was to suggest or tell the story that Sid had this, 2203 01:55:28.199 --> 01:55:31.079 squirrel love to run that down but could not do so. 2204 01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:33.520 But I have the feeling that it comes from this 2205 01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:36.399 rough time period in the WWF as far as when 2206 01:55:36.439 --> 01:55:39.000 it happened. So I'm putting it here. And the call 2207 01:55:39.079 --> 01:55:40.640 is out of the Solar system, you know, the email 2208 01:55:40.680 --> 01:55:43.600 address the Lapsed fantasyemail dot com. If you can assist 2209 01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:46.239 us as you are, I feel confident that the Solar 2210 01:55:46.279 --> 01:55:47.760 system doesn't find that it doesn't exist. 2211 01:55:48.359 --> 01:55:48.760 Agreed. 2212 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:51.039 So see if you can find anybody saying, oh, yeah, 2213 01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:53.119 this is a eyewitnessed SID do this with my own 2214 01:55:53.159 --> 01:55:55.760 two eyes, that would be extremely helpful. It's hard to 2215 01:55:55.840 --> 01:55:57.960 know because just about anyone who was in the company 2216 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:00.880 at that time and has done shoot interviews could theoretically 2217 01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:03.960 have seen this and said this. So we can't just 2218 01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:07.119 as well, look at everybody's interview that's ever been done. 2219 01:56:07.199 --> 01:56:09.760 That was there, but would be great to have a 2220 01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:12.439 shortcut for people that might remember hearing it from somebody's 2221 01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:16.279 lips for the first time. So we're moving along here 2222 01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:21.079 in Sid's career by herker, by Krook, whether he likes 2223 01:56:21.119 --> 01:56:24.199 it or not. And as nineteen ninety seven becomes nineteen 2224 01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:27.720 ninety eight, this is actually right around the time he 2225 01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:29.960 sat down for the first RF video shoot interview, which 2226 01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:32.560 we have excerpted from generously. It was one of the 2227 01:56:32.680 --> 01:56:35.079 rare times where they did a shooting interview before a 2228 01:56:35.079 --> 01:56:37.159 guy had firmly faded from the spotlight and was still 2229 01:56:37.239 --> 01:56:39.479 kind of an active aid free agent in the marketplace, 2230 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:42.359 still looking to return to WWF if he could, And 2231 01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:44.000 he sat with him and talked about all this shit, 2232 01:56:44.039 --> 01:56:47.159 which was an interesting choice. Think about Sid shooting on 2233 01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:50.439 WWF in March of nineteen ninety eight. That's wild, that's 2234 01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:53.119 a risk, but he's doing it. And so they asked 2235 01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:55.520 him what his status is with with the WWEF contract 2236 01:56:56.000 --> 01:56:57.800 and he says, legally, I do have a release, and 2237 01:56:57.800 --> 01:56:59.680 then legally I don't have a release, and that's a 2238 01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:02.960 Sid answers you're going to get, he said. What we're 2239 01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:04.319 trying to do is just get the final details of 2240 01:57:04.359 --> 01:57:06.239 the merchandising worked out. How many months or how many 2241 01:57:06.319 --> 01:57:08.439 years they're going to owe me for what's usually a 2242 01:57:08.479 --> 01:57:11.039 general timeframe is two years of what they pay you 2243 01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:13.039 after you leave. So that's what we're trying to get 2244 01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:15.039 them to say. So basically, it appears that as of 2245 01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:16.720 March of nineteen ninety eight, you know, es wrestle Mania 2246 01:57:16.720 --> 01:57:20.279 fourteen's getting ready to go, Sid is negotiating how much 2247 01:57:20.840 --> 01:57:23.640 pay he's going to get for merchandising in exchange for 2248 01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:26.920 leaving the company. Sid also said in this interview that 2249 01:57:26.960 --> 01:57:29.439 they won't return my lawyer's calls and he's been calling, 2250 01:57:29.880 --> 01:57:31.239 and you know, only just the thing was I told 2251 01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:33.439 them I'm in no hurry because of my neck. But 2252 01:57:33.560 --> 01:57:36.000 now I'm in a little bit of a hurry. But 2253 01:57:36.079 --> 01:57:38.119 as far as legally, I can go work anywhere I want. 2254 01:57:38.199 --> 01:57:40.600 So basically he's it sounds like he's saying that, yeah, 2255 01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:43.640 my contract is expired or my contract you know, is 2256 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:46.199 null and void at this point, but I'm looking to 2257 01:57:46.279 --> 01:57:49.199 get more money out of them on a merchandising deal point. 2258 01:57:49.680 --> 01:57:51.039 And so if they're going to give me that money, 2259 01:57:51.640 --> 01:57:54.000 I'm gonna have to negotiate giving them something in return. 2260 01:57:55.119 --> 01:57:57.520 So in that respect, if they give there, I'm still 2261 01:57:57.600 --> 01:57:59.319 kind of in contractual limbo and not able to go 2262 01:57:59.319 --> 01:58:02.079 wherever I want. So only Sid can have a can 2263 01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:04.119 be in a contractual position at any given point in 2264 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:08.640 time where his contract is and is not pending and valid. 2265 01:58:10.039 --> 01:58:12.920 But of course, now where did Sid go in nineteen 2266 01:58:12.960 --> 01:58:15.279 ninety eight? We certainly don't know, do we. 2267 01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:17.439 Oh? I don't think so, do we? 2268 01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.359 It' certainly as the attitude ever explode, Sid's not on 2269 01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:21.600 nitro and he's not on raw. 2270 01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:22.319 Where is the man? 2271 01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:27.000 Well, he goes back home. Of course, Sid goes back 2272 01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:30.800 to Memphis and what's left of that old territory that 2273 01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:34.119 launched the lord humongous character, that old territory where he 2274 01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:35.840 got into the ring with Jerry Lawler in the Mid 2275 01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.760 South Coliseum before he knew what a turn buckle was, 2276 01:58:39.439 --> 01:58:41.520 before he knew what anything was in the wrestling business, 2277 01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:44.680 but had the size to get that early endorsement and 2278 01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:46.880 you know, share the ring with Nick Backwinkle the first 2279 01:58:46.920 --> 01:58:49.479 time he ever had a match. For instance, he goes 2280 01:58:49.520 --> 01:58:51.119 back to Memphis and at the time, it had been 2281 01:58:51.439 --> 01:58:54.960 transitioned into a promotion called Memphis Power Pro Wrestling or 2282 01:58:55.079 --> 01:58:57.319 MPPW under Randy Hales, who would go on to be 2283 01:58:57.760 --> 01:59:01.359 heavily associated with promoting at wrestling in that great city 2284 01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:04.720 for for years after Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett kind 2285 01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:08.640 of set down the reins for that territory. So Memphis 2286 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:11.279 Power Pro still run and they're still doing WMC Channel 2287 01:59:11.279 --> 01:59:14.000 five Studio wrestling. I don't think they're running the Mid 2288 01:59:14.039 --> 01:59:16.159 South Coliseum anymore, but they are doing a live event 2289 01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:18.680 business as well. This is kind of boss the successor 2290 01:59:18.720 --> 01:59:24.079 to the us w A. Okay, Yeah, which we know 2291 01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:27.359 kind of bubbled up after the Memphis territory as we 2292 01:59:27.479 --> 01:59:29.680 knew it fractured as Lawler went to w w F 2293 01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:31.399 and it just became kind of like this feeder system thing. 2294 01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:38.680 Was that also part of wasn't that wasn't it was 2295 01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:39.239 a w A. 2296 01:59:39.640 --> 01:59:42.119 Yeah, that was wasn't a world class part of that too, 2297 01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:47.600 part of the us w A sort of, Yeah, it 2298 01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:49.439 kind of becomes the us w A. This is after 2299 01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:55.119 Jerry Jarrett buys out Fritz's interest in Dallas. They were 2300 01:59:55.199 --> 01:59:58.399 called c w c w A and then yeah, basically 2301 01:59:58.479 --> 02:00:02.199 the combined organizationrunning out of the Sportatorium was was called 2302 02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:05.760 USWA for a time, and then Global moved in to 2303 02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:08.520 the sport He drove Price reigned and Rod Price reigned. 2304 02:00:08.600 --> 02:00:15.399 That's correct, due to inflation, no doubt. And so Memphis 2305 02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:18.039 Pro is not only you know, running under new auspices, 2306 02:00:18.079 --> 02:00:21.840 it's also kind of at the catbird seat for a 2307 02:00:21.920 --> 02:00:25.039 developmental territory deal. And this would be the promotion that 2308 02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:26.640 Kurt Angle, for instance, would get a lot of his 2309 02:00:26.760 --> 02:00:29.760 reps in before coming over to the main ww roster 2310 02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:32.319 in November of nineteen ninety nine, and they would run 2311 02:00:32.359 --> 02:00:35.479 a lot of their prospects through the Memphis Power Pro organization. 2312 02:00:35.760 --> 02:00:38.199 I don't think that he's exactly taken hold yet when 2313 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:40.880 Sid went over there, but we remember, you know, Sid 2314 02:00:41.000 --> 02:00:44.880 went to Memphis after the second WCW run before they 2315 02:00:44.920 --> 02:00:46.640 brought him back in ninety five to be Psycho Sid 2316 02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:49.319 to the WWF. Oh yeah, so I'm sure he's seeing 2317 02:00:49.319 --> 02:00:50.800 this not only as a bit of ho homecoming, but 2318 02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:53.840 also a way to stay on their radar and prove 2319 02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:56.600 that despite all the bullshit, he's actually employable. And this 2320 02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:58.159 is how he looks on television and This is how 2321 02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:01.359 he's carrying himself and he's not too hurt, not too hobbled, 2322 02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:04.199 et cetera, and still trying. This is just a wild 2323 02:01:04.319 --> 02:01:07.319 and weird time for Sid starting in February ninety eight 2324 02:01:07.359 --> 02:01:10.119 where he starts showing up on shows and Mississippi, teaming 2325 02:01:10.119 --> 02:01:12.479 with Jerry Lawler against the likes of Reggie b Fine 2326 02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:15.000 and Johnny Rotten. Johnny Rotten was Sid's buddy that he'd 2327 02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:16.600 take everywhere and get bookings. 2328 02:01:18.359 --> 02:01:20.479 So love not everyone's got like their little buddy that 2329 02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:20.880 they help. 2330 02:01:21.319 --> 02:01:24.520 It's really interesting. It's so yeah, it's like part of 2331 02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:29.279 the playbook to to survive in the business. So they're 2332 02:01:29.279 --> 02:01:32.920 working in these Mississippi shows. Tracy Smothers is around the 2333 02:01:33.039 --> 02:01:36.199 territory at the time as well, Bill Dundee and some others. 2334 02:01:36.800 --> 02:01:39.239 There's the third annual Eddie Gilbert Memorial Brawl that takes 2335 02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:41.319 place for twenty eighth, nineteen ninety eight at the Radison 2336 02:01:41.359 --> 02:01:44.319 Hotel in Philadelphia. As you know, we start to see, 2337 02:01:46.319 --> 02:01:48.039 you know, the Philly area indies start to pick up 2338 02:01:48.039 --> 02:01:50.880 again with ec W being hot. Sid goes over there 2339 02:01:50.920 --> 02:01:53.600 and beats King Kong Bundy at the Radison in Philly, 2340 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:56.720 that's something to consider Sid versus King Kung Bundy in 2341 02:01:56.800 --> 02:01:57.600 nineteen ninety eight. 2342 02:01:57.640 --> 02:02:01.199 Boss, I guess it is something to consider it. No, 2343 02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:03.560 I feel about that conclusions draw. 2344 02:02:03.640 --> 02:02:06.000 But then he goes back to Memphis Power Pro and 2345 02:02:06.079 --> 02:02:09.840 March teaming with Lawler again, wrestling Johnny Rotten and wrestling 2346 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:12.680 King Kong Bundy on a New England Wrestling show in Thomaston, 2347 02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:14.880 Connecticut on March twenty eighth, nineteen ninety eight. So when 2348 02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:17.039 we're getting ready to go to the Fleet Center for 2349 02:02:17.079 --> 02:02:22.560 wrestling at fourteen the week before Sid's wrestling Bundy in Connecticut. 2350 02:02:22.439 --> 02:02:23.680 Of course makes sense. 2351 02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:26.920 I just can't. I can't incorporate Sid being on this 2352 02:02:27.159 --> 02:02:30.159 track to my mindset at that time in ninety eight. 2353 02:02:30.279 --> 02:02:32.600 I know, I never even thought about SidD. You did 2354 02:02:32.640 --> 02:02:33.399 you wonder where he went? 2355 02:02:33.640 --> 02:02:33.680 No? 2356 02:02:34.119 --> 02:02:34.359 Nope. 2357 02:02:34.520 --> 02:02:37.000 As Austin descended and everything and it's all that happened, 2358 02:02:37.039 --> 02:02:38.479 I never thought about Sid in ninety eight. 2359 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:40.960 I was kind of you know, I was so into 2360 02:02:41.239 --> 02:02:43.880 Austin at that point that I didn't really care. 2361 02:02:44.279 --> 02:02:47.279 It's amazing, considering how big of a deal he was 2362 02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:49.960 and how resident of a star he was supposed to be, 2363 02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:51.960 that we didn't think about where he was. That's that 2364 02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:55.159 says something. He works in Middletown, New Jersey, on April 2365 02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:57.760 fourth of nineteen ninety eight, defeating Tom Brandy, the former 2366 02:02:57.800 --> 02:03:02.159 Salvator sincere, he works a Legends Pro Wrestling show in Sheffield, Alabama, 2367 02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:04.840 on April eighteenth, nineteen ninety eight, against Mike Samples. He's 2368 02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:09.199 back in New Jersey wrestling maybel on April twenty Yeah, 2369 02:03:09.319 --> 02:03:12.359 Mountain Holly, New Jersey. That's a show you want to see. 2370 02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:14.640 Then he goes to Wall Township, New Jersey and wrestles 2371 02:03:14.680 --> 02:03:18.960 Mabel again. And then he goes to Garfield, New Jersey 2372 02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:21.000 and loses to someone named Rick Ratchett. Don't even ask 2373 02:03:21.039 --> 02:03:22.479 me to start there. I have no idea who Rick 2374 02:03:22.560 --> 02:03:25.399 Ratchett is. He does a Jersey All Pro Wrestling show 2375 02:03:25.439 --> 02:03:28.560 in Bayone, New Jersey, on September twenty fifth, nineteen ninety eight, 2376 02:03:28.600 --> 02:03:30.920 defeating a wrestler by the name of Patch and come 2377 02:03:31.000 --> 02:03:32.760 fall time, as the leaves change, he's headed back to 2378 02:03:32.840 --> 02:03:35.039 Memphis and he's working. Yes, sir, I take that back 2379 02:03:35.159 --> 02:03:38.640 the Mid South Coliseum wrestling likes of Bo Alexander and 2380 02:03:38.680 --> 02:03:41.319 Bulldog Rains and Rex King and Tom Pritchard he face, 2381 02:03:41.680 --> 02:03:43.800 he faced a bow. The boy he faced to bow, 2382 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:49.279 not bowjus justice as far as we know. But in fact, 2383 02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:55.600 Bo Alexander April pardon me, October third, nineteen ninety eight, 2384 02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:58.560 he's in a battle royal in Memphis. And as far 2385 02:03:58.600 --> 02:04:01.159 as I can tell, the final shot of this Memphis 2386 02:04:01.199 --> 02:04:03.439 sojourn for Sid in nineteen ninety eight was on October 2387 02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:05.960 third of nineteen ninety eight, as Hawk from the Road 2388 02:04:06.000 --> 02:04:09.079 Warriors teams with Bart Gunn to beat Jerry Lawler and 2389 02:04:09.159 --> 02:04:11.760 Sid Vicious in a tag team explosion, a main event 2390 02:04:11.800 --> 02:04:12.640 anywhere in the country. 2391 02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:17.680 Boss, that is true, it was anywhere in the country. 2392 02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:20.800 There's precious little on tape that I could find easily 2393 02:04:21.920 --> 02:04:24.560 of Sid during this run. It sounds like he's mostly 2394 02:04:24.640 --> 02:04:27.840 working arena shows. I'm sure he's at the TV tapings, 2395 02:04:27.880 --> 02:04:31.239 but he's not having matches necessarily that are reflected in 2396 02:04:31.319 --> 02:04:34.039 his you know, record, So it's hard to pin down 2397 02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:35.960 what shows he was at and just didn't wrestle on. 2398 02:04:36.439 --> 02:04:38.239 But as far as I can tell, and I'd love 2399 02:04:38.279 --> 02:04:39.960 to hear from somebody that you know, was local to 2400 02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:42.039 Memphis at the time or somehow was tape trading for 2401 02:04:42.119 --> 02:04:45.439 that area and remembers this whole angle. But Sid finds 2402 02:04:45.520 --> 02:04:48.479 himself the lead spokesperson for a stable of wrestlers in 2403 02:04:48.560 --> 02:04:51.840 Memphis Power Pro called the POB. Now do not ask 2404 02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:54.439 me what POB stands for, but whatever it stands for, 2405 02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:56.800 they've got the you know, twenty five people that are 2406 02:04:56.800 --> 02:05:00.600 at the WMCTV studios for the television show Chanting Pob POB. 2407 02:05:01.159 --> 02:05:02.880 Whenever these guys are out there and they look to 2408 02:05:02.960 --> 02:05:06.439 me boss, like in Aces and eights, Oh god, Sid 2409 02:05:06.560 --> 02:05:08.840 is basically the head of a biker gang stable, and 2410 02:05:09.239 --> 02:05:12.560 it's hard to deal with. It's hard that Sid just 2411 02:05:12.640 --> 02:05:14.760 isn't enough that he's got to have a new gimmick 2412 02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.199 in nineteen ninety eight. It's kind of humiliating if you 2413 02:05:17.239 --> 02:05:20.079 ask me. But Sid, you know, he was one that 2414 02:05:20.199 --> 02:05:24.600 could kind of get carried away, letting his creative juices flow. 2415 02:05:25.800 --> 02:05:27.680 He was somebody that if you really handed him the reins, 2416 02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:29.199 just you could have him on board, let him do 2417 02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:31.079 what he wanted. He would come up with some really 2418 02:05:31.159 --> 02:05:34.359 goofy shit that really deluded what it was that people 2419 02:05:34.439 --> 02:05:37.600 wanted to see from Sid all these years and being 2420 02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:40.359 the spokesperson and the lead heel for this POB stable 2421 02:05:40.479 --> 02:05:43.279 we get and this is saying something for Sid some 2422 02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:47.640 of the more incomprehensible promo work of this man's life. 2423 02:05:47.680 --> 02:05:50.880 Here's just a little sample from one edition of Memphis 2424 02:05:50.920 --> 02:05:53.600 Power pro Television. At the time Sid about to take 2425 02:05:53.600 --> 02:05:57.079 the microphone as the head of this stable. 2426 02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:01.680 All right, asked Jane, we need to get some help 2427 02:06:01.760 --> 02:06:02.520 for Darry King. 2428 02:06:02.640 --> 02:06:21.000 And here last Russell said, viciousious. 2429 02:06:24.720 --> 02:06:27.640 You are I'm gonna say, you say so, now is it? 2430 02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:28.760 You? 2431 02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:34.720 People have a lot of heart that whatever he's watch yesterday, 2432 02:06:35.319 --> 02:06:36.119 don't discuss me. 2433 02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:39.079 But what I'm gonna do today, what I'm going to 2434 02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:41.279 do to day. Some people were gonna say you. 2435 02:06:41.319 --> 02:06:44.640 Went over the line, said you went over the line. 2436 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:47.000 That some people will say, no, say didn't go far enough. 2437 02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:50.520 Because what I'm talking about what step we got that 2438 02:06:50.640 --> 02:06:51.119 we'll be. 2439 02:06:51.239 --> 02:06:51.960 Going down line? 2440 02:06:53.399 --> 02:07:02.079 What what we're gonna have to do is here the 2441 02:07:03.039 --> 02:07:06.720 last week someone so he supposed he's not opposed the 2442 02:07:06.840 --> 02:07:10.600 Rady Hills ideas, gave this young man a call and 2443 02:07:10.720 --> 02:07:13.479 brought him down here and did probably what they don't 2444 02:07:13.520 --> 02:07:15.119 even realize in their own minds. 2445 02:07:15.720 --> 02:07:18.359 They made the biggest mistake of the art. They dete 2446 02:07:18.439 --> 02:07:24.640 traded the pride. They dec trated the crime, they. 2447 02:07:24.680 --> 02:07:31.000 Burnt the charge and everything we stepped for. And I 2448 02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:33.520 want everyone one more time to realize. I don't want 2449 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:35.399 you to judge before what I'm going to do today, 2450 02:07:35.800 --> 02:07:37.680 because what I want to do today is something I 2451 02:07:37.760 --> 02:07:41.800 don't even like doing myself. But sometimes when people step 2452 02:07:42.039 --> 02:07:43.800 that line, they go too far. 2453 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:49.039 Two things. You have to teach them a lessons. 2454 02:07:49.520 --> 02:07:52.640 And sometimes you have to make example the people. Then 2455 02:07:52.720 --> 02:07:55.119 make a quick example. There's a young lady out here 2456 02:07:55.359 --> 02:07:56.319 we call angel. 2457 02:07:56.680 --> 02:07:57.520 They see the faith. 2458 02:07:57.600 --> 02:07:59.760 You'll Palladians shit that couple of days you had a 2459 02:07:59.800 --> 02:08:03.199 call she gonna stick in her mouth, But she's here today. 2460 02:08:03.840 --> 02:08:06.079 What are they talking about exactly? 2461 02:08:06.319 --> 02:08:08.840 I want to cart the shot of the pop girls. 2462 02:08:09.319 --> 02:08:11.119 I want to carry me to get a guy with. 2463 02:08:11.279 --> 02:08:12.279 The pop goals. 2464 02:08:14.880 --> 02:08:16.880 A pob girl got in a car accident in his 2465 02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:17.439 front row. 2466 02:08:17.520 --> 02:08:20.760 Happy over what happened last week? Here Dave Brown, Yeah, 2467 02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:21.680 get him back on the rail. 2468 02:08:21.800 --> 02:08:24.399 For a long time, I have gone over the line sometimes, 2469 02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:26.439 but for the most part, I've. 2470 02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:27.439 Been a considerate man. 2471 02:08:28.039 --> 02:08:31.720 I've been honest. But when I see my friends, my families, 2472 02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:33.920 what happened the last week? If you want to took 2473 02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:38.199 my hotel. My hotel right now that day? 2474 02:08:38.279 --> 02:08:41.439 What just get him? You think you're like an animal soday? 2475 02:08:41.760 --> 02:08:44.199 Today, I ain't going to be the judge and jury 2476 02:08:44.840 --> 02:08:46.960 of the four men that were part of it is 2477 02:08:47.079 --> 02:08:47.680 supposed to be. 2478 02:08:47.680 --> 02:08:48.680 In the Goblet match. 2479 02:08:49.319 --> 02:08:52.000 And when we get through judgings, we also going to 2480 02:08:52.359 --> 02:08:53.039 chance him. 2481 02:08:52.920 --> 02:08:55.039 Here at their guns getting the Academy award, is it? 2482 02:08:55.600 --> 02:09:01.439 Oh yeah, you s'b vicious, still. 2483 02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:04.439 Knowing I will play. 2484 02:09:10.039 --> 02:09:25.880 It's the laps Fall Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 2485 02:09:26.039 --> 02:09:29.479 knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 2486 02:09:44.199 --> 02:09:48.079 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnassio 2487 02:09:48.479 --> 02:09:49.560 and JP Sorrow. 2488 02:09:50.079 --> 02:09:53.520 Oh my god, I don't even know what to say. 2489 02:09:54.279 --> 02:09:59.079 That said left to his own devices, Okay, just screaming 2490 02:09:59.279 --> 02:10:03.960 and trying to pack sixteen different disparate things into one statement. Yeah, 2491 02:10:05.520 --> 02:10:08.640 I mean it was just missing a Vienna Sausages thing. 2492 02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:11.520 I mean, honestly, he should have. I'm surprised he didn't, 2493 02:10:12.439 --> 02:10:15.000 you know, say, hey, going to Saint Mary's. 2494 02:10:15.039 --> 02:10:18.279 Well, I mean it's right in the same city exactly, 2495 02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:21.359 very approximate, very convenient. But yeah, I don't know. He's 2496 02:10:21.680 --> 02:10:24.159 he's he's vowing revenge on somebody who had beaten down 2497 02:10:24.199 --> 02:10:25.960 one of the Pob brothers the week before. 2498 02:10:26.039 --> 02:10:26.680 I don't know who. 2499 02:10:27.279 --> 02:10:29.119 There's a woman in the front row who supports the 2500 02:10:29.159 --> 02:10:31.119 stable who got in a car accident and had some 2501 02:10:31.279 --> 02:10:34.239 stitches in his mouth, and he does the the gregarious 2502 02:10:34.319 --> 02:10:38.760 thing of calling her out and letting us all know 2503 02:10:38.880 --> 02:10:42.840 that she's here in support. She's just screaming, and it's 2504 02:10:42.960 --> 02:10:47.199 just like, I don't know, he doesn't seem employable to me. 2505 02:10:47.319 --> 02:10:49.920 Hit this point, it just seems like, oh God, we're 2506 02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:51.000 gonna sign up for this, Like. 2507 02:10:51.399 --> 02:10:55.359 He just seems it's just it's like it's the same 2508 02:10:55.399 --> 02:10:57.159 old shit, but it's just getting. 2509 02:10:56.920 --> 02:11:00.840 Worse, getting worse. It's getting worse. And uh, you know, 2510 02:11:00.960 --> 02:11:03.880 you realize how much of a finishing touch they had 2511 02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:05.600 to put on at WWF to make it look like 2512 02:11:05.640 --> 02:11:07.520 he was a good promo, you know, because he's not. 2513 02:11:08.600 --> 02:11:08.840 He's not. 2514 02:11:08.960 --> 02:11:12.560 And hear someone say he is, I'm just flabbergasted. I mean, 2515 02:11:12.800 --> 02:11:15.880 whatever he is, it's by complete happenstance, like he just 2516 02:11:15.960 --> 02:11:18.479 happens to be in a position where his off the 2517 02:11:18.560 --> 02:11:20.840 cuff rantings and ravings are right a right fit for 2518 02:11:20.880 --> 02:11:22.800 the moment, which they only are one times out of ten. 2519 02:11:24.359 --> 02:11:26.199 And this isn't This is what you get when you 2520 02:11:26.359 --> 02:11:28.439 just put him in charge of cutting a you know, 2521 02:11:28.520 --> 02:11:32.199 a traditional buy the books studio wrestling promo, you know, 2522 02:11:32.279 --> 02:11:34.840 talking about what's happened, vowing revenge for what happened or whatever, 2523 02:11:34.920 --> 02:11:36.880 and pointing to the next to the next thing it's 2524 02:11:36.880 --> 02:11:38.520 gonna happen. And he is just all over the place, 2525 02:11:38.920 --> 02:11:41.239 and you can hear Dave Brown just but just trying 2526 02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:43.039 to prompt him to talk about how it happened last 2527 02:11:43.079 --> 02:11:44.600 week again, and they run out of time and he's 2528 02:11:44.600 --> 02:11:48.119 still talking over the music. And look, I mean, you 2529 02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:50.159 can't be a great wrestling promo if you don't know 2530 02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:52.960 how to do that studio promo correctly agreed, and I 2531 02:11:52.960 --> 02:11:55.239 know it, just you cannot qualify as good or great 2532 02:11:55.399 --> 02:11:59.520 even And there he is, after all these years in 2533 02:11:59.520 --> 02:12:02.359 the business, at the highest levels, with the biggest production 2534 02:12:02.439 --> 02:12:05.279 budgets and the most direction and guidance. That's what he 2535 02:12:05.359 --> 02:12:08.960 does when taking off the leash. So take from that 2536 02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:11.239 perhaps what you will. But it's back home to Memphis 2537 02:12:11.319 --> 02:12:13.880 for this homebody, and he meets a fellow homebody like 2538 02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:17.920 Jerry Lawler, doesn't he down there, boss, Yes, I'd imagine so, 2539 02:12:18.239 --> 02:12:22.279 softball buddy and Yeah, Luller, in a shoot interview of 2540 02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:25.800 his own, talks about Sid and kind of why he 2541 02:12:25.840 --> 02:12:28.239 may have been welcomed back to the area time and 2542 02:12:28.279 --> 02:12:29.159 again with open arms. 2543 02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:33.640 Sid was a lot like me in the fact that Sid, 2544 02:12:33.920 --> 02:12:36.560 I don't like to travel. Sid likes to be at home, 2545 02:12:37.239 --> 02:12:39.800 and Sid likes to play softball just like I do. 2546 02:12:40.439 --> 02:12:44.000 And I can honestly tell you that if given the 2547 02:12:44.159 --> 02:12:49.600 choice of wrestling on the main event in Madisle Square 2548 02:12:49.680 --> 02:12:53.720 Garden or playing a softball game, wrestling in front of 2549 02:12:53.720 --> 02:12:57.399 eighteen thousand people, playing a softball game in front of nothing, 2550 02:12:57.479 --> 02:13:02.199 but with twenty of your ends, if you had the 2551 02:13:02.279 --> 02:13:04.920 choice between the two, probably Sid and I would both choose. 2552 02:13:04.720 --> 02:13:09.399 The softball game. And and a lot of people, you know, 2553 02:13:10.399 --> 02:13:11.720 think you're crazier or. 2554 02:13:13.359 --> 02:13:16.399 Get a bad impression of you from that, But I 2555 02:13:16.479 --> 02:13:19.359 think it's just you know, a difference in priorities, and 2556 02:13:19.399 --> 02:13:21.279 a lot of people, a lot of people give Sid 2557 02:13:21.359 --> 02:13:25.319 the the you know, the label of being difficult to 2558 02:13:25.359 --> 02:13:28.079 work with simply because of things like that, not maybe 2559 02:13:28.159 --> 02:13:29.439 not showing up for something so. 2560 02:13:29.520 --> 02:13:32.119 Because he thought something else was more important or or 2561 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:37.319 that sort of thing. But you know, Sid was at 2562 02:13:37.399 --> 02:13:39.800 least not for me, never difficult to work within the ring. 2563 02:13:40.239 --> 02:13:42.720 I thought we you know, had a lot of good matches. 2564 02:13:44.479 --> 02:13:44.960 So there it is. 2565 02:13:45.399 --> 02:13:47.960 How do they have all in Memphis? 2566 02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:51.000 I mean it's a weird matchup to me. 2567 02:13:51.239 --> 02:13:52.640 Yeah, it's kind of weird now that you say that. 2568 02:13:52.720 --> 02:13:56.680 They never really clashed on the WWF stage. M do 2569 02:13:56.680 --> 02:13:59.880 you think, like in ninety six or something quick, Jerry Lawler, 2570 02:14:00.359 --> 02:14:01.960 they've made sense for a guy like Sid, you know, 2571 02:14:02.039 --> 02:14:03.600 beat the shit out of him power bombing a couple 2572 02:14:03.600 --> 02:14:03.920 of times. 2573 02:14:04.399 --> 02:14:06.239 I mean, I do like the Jerry Lawler admits he'd 2574 02:14:06.279 --> 02:14:07.359 rather be home than anything else. 2575 02:14:07.479 --> 02:14:09.560 Yeah, and that's you know, that's got to be what's 2576 02:14:09.560 --> 02:14:11.119 going through their mind when he can't make the Kuwaiti 2577 02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:13.319 tour after wrestling A thirteen. He doesn't want to travel 2578 02:14:14.039 --> 02:14:16.079 and all this other stuff is because he doesn't want 2579 02:14:16.079 --> 02:14:18.319 to travel basically, right, And he thinks he can use 2580 02:14:18.319 --> 02:14:19.960 an injury to get out of traveling. Well, you're going 2581 02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:21.800 to go, and he went and hated it, and I'm 2582 02:14:21.840 --> 02:14:23.800 sure he couldn't bring his fucking gimmicks with him, so 2583 02:14:23.920 --> 02:14:27.279 he was extra cranky and in the rest is history, 2584 02:14:27.680 --> 02:14:31.319 but interesting perspective there from a Jerry Lawler who feels, 2585 02:14:31.560 --> 02:14:34.000 for some reason post that Tug of Memphis, he just 2586 02:14:34.079 --> 02:14:37.279 has to go home in Memphis. Sometimes I just can't 2587 02:14:37.319 --> 02:14:40.279 imagine what waits for him go home. I can't imagine 2588 02:14:40.279 --> 02:14:44.039 what forbidden fruit he's waiting to pluck, I know, to 2589 02:14:44.159 --> 02:14:48.359 free from its roots, oh boy and branches. But yeah, 2590 02:14:48.359 --> 02:14:49.960 they're going back to play some softball. 2591 02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:50.399 And that's that. 2592 02:14:50.680 --> 02:14:54.760 So Sid is at least back where he, in his 2593 02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:57.239 own mind belongs here in nineteen ninety eight, way out 2594 02:14:57.279 --> 02:14:59.560 of the national spotlight. And again an afterthought, I think, 2595 02:15:00.760 --> 02:15:02.119 I think, you know, it's hard to say that he 2596 02:15:02.239 --> 02:15:04.479 was a huge superstar when no one cares where he is. 2597 02:15:04.560 --> 02:15:07.640 Throughout the entirety of nineteen ninety eight, all the wrestling 2598 02:15:07.680 --> 02:15:11.520 business reaches unforeseen heights. As soon as he leaves. 2599 02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:13.319 The WWF starts catching. 2600 02:15:13.119 --> 02:15:15.520 Fire as soon as he leaves, of course, of course, 2601 02:15:15.680 --> 02:15:18.239 I mean as soon as he's definitely gone, they absolutely 2602 02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:22.479 take off. It's remarkable to see. If you made a chart, 2603 02:15:22.840 --> 02:15:25.239 a barograph or something, you'd be stunned at the correlation, 2604 02:15:25.399 --> 02:15:29.640 the inverse correlation between business picking up and Sid disappearing 2605 02:15:29.800 --> 02:15:34.680 or Sid showing up in business plateauing and struggling, but 2606 02:15:34.800 --> 02:15:36.560 he fell off the face of the earth as mentioned 2607 02:15:36.640 --> 02:15:40.199 until all of a sudden, Boss nineteen ninety eight becomes 2608 02:15:40.359 --> 02:15:44.720 nineteen ninety nine and this happens. I want to ask 2609 02:15:44.800 --> 02:15:47.279 you to load up this video, but please don't hit 2610 02:15:47.359 --> 02:15:51.279 play until I'm ready on my side, because we're about 2611 02:15:51.319 --> 02:16:01.680 to enter a new, truncated but interesting chapter for Sid. Okay, 2612 02:16:05.600 --> 02:16:09.199 have we ever seen Sid in the land of his 2613 02:16:09.600 --> 02:16:10.199 an extreme? 2614 02:16:10.840 --> 02:16:13.520 No, we've never seen him with his extremities. 2615 02:16:21.680 --> 02:16:23.800 Tests and tell the people what you see, Bonny sometime here. 2616 02:16:24.199 --> 02:16:26.319 I mean, I'm well, I'm what I'm seeing is some 2617 02:16:26.560 --> 02:16:30.119 goofball who I don't even know who is that with. 2618 02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:33.440 There's a guy with you know, kind of a shaved 2619 02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:36.680 head with scraggly hair over his face and a goatee 2620 02:16:36.879 --> 02:16:39.520 and a black onesie. That's what I see. 2621 02:16:40.840 --> 02:16:45.159 Are you calling Judge Jeff Jones's robe a onesie? No, 2622 02:16:45.440 --> 02:16:46.200 he's not a robe. 2623 02:16:47.680 --> 02:16:51.479 Oh, this is John Cronis. Sorry, that's pretty funny. He's 2624 02:16:51.520 --> 02:16:52.239 wearing a onesie. 2625 02:16:52.399 --> 02:16:55.120 This is John Cronis, formerly the Eliminators with Perry Saturn. 2626 02:16:55.239 --> 02:17:00.239 You recall, oh, don't du whatever you say, there we go. 2627 02:17:00.360 --> 02:17:03.319 Let's hit play in three two one, play. 2628 02:17:03.440 --> 02:17:06.399 Sweet and Living on Pennsylvania. 2629 02:17:07.399 --> 02:17:10.360 You took me and lay me slat. 2630 02:17:10.120 --> 02:17:10.799 In the center. 2631 02:17:11.159 --> 02:17:12.399 That's Judge Jeff Joseph and. 2632 02:17:13.000 --> 02:17:15.120 With your four fifty. 2633 02:17:15.280 --> 02:17:18.840 This is ECW Guilty is Charged, the first ECW pay 2634 02:17:18.840 --> 02:17:19.840 per view of nineteen ninety. 2635 02:17:19.920 --> 02:17:25.639 Yo, Cronus, I am the judge and I am the jury, 2636 02:17:27.399 --> 02:17:31.600 and for that crime, I'm as Sault Cronus. I find 2637 02:17:31.719 --> 02:17:36.200 you guilty as jorm. 2638 02:17:36.680 --> 02:17:38.520 From liliar Cronus. It was a salt and pepper. 2639 02:17:38.920 --> 02:17:39.079 Yeah. 2640 02:17:39.079 --> 02:17:42.000 I could say, okay, now. 2641 02:17:42.000 --> 02:17:47.079 That I've sentenced you, you will face my executioner. And 2642 02:17:47.200 --> 02:17:51.120 you could say he's a little bit psycho and he's 2643 02:17:51.200 --> 02:17:53.680 gonna deal him by plain justice. 2644 02:17:53.600 --> 02:17:58.120 And a vicious matter for us psycho and vicious manner justice. 2645 02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:06.040 Crazy psycho said vicious Jessice, what's wrong with him? 2646 02:18:07.760 --> 02:18:07.879 Right? 2647 02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:11.479 Question? Every time the man, Oh, go all right for 2648 02:18:11.559 --> 02:18:11.840 the pot? 2649 02:18:13.120 --> 02:18:20.360 Wow said he's here? Did he see de yah looking? 2650 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:21.959 He he's just fucking screaming. 2651 02:18:28.360 --> 02:18:29.760 M hm h. 2652 02:18:35.600 --> 02:18:38.280 Na wear wrestling be jeans. 2653 02:18:41.680 --> 02:18:58.799 Brothers throws a right hand naked too, whoa, Oh my god. 2654 02:18:59.000 --> 02:19:01.239 We just talked to him by the throat over the 2655 02:19:01.319 --> 02:19:01.760 top of the. 2656 02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:02.559 Floor of thro her table. 2657 02:19:02.680 --> 02:19:06.079 He's a former d w dbe you chippy and he's 2658 02:19:06.120 --> 02:19:06.799 a monster. 2659 02:19:07.360 --> 02:19:13.959 They ripped through Wu s W the psycho. 2660 02:19:23.959 --> 02:19:32.639 Oh great chair shots, Oh god, like I would not 2661 02:19:32.879 --> 02:19:34.159 want a Jesus. 2662 02:19:35.000 --> 02:19:41.840 She is trying to destroy Jock Troce. No, Jeff Jones 2663 02:19:41.879 --> 02:19:43.680 couldn't call himself anything he wants. 2664 02:19:47.399 --> 02:19:47.879 They want it. 2665 02:19:49.399 --> 02:19:51.520 They want the power bom bomb. 2666 02:19:53.879 --> 02:19:55.719 The fans want to see a power bob. 2667 02:20:03.360 --> 02:20:16.000 It's a good one. Good night, I go away. 2668 02:20:37.239 --> 02:20:39.079 Somebody better get a squeeze. 2669 02:20:40.200 --> 02:20:41.440 Squeeze kucker. 2670 02:20:47.959 --> 02:20:51.079 I've got a sickly feeling that Jeff Jones, judge or not. 2671 02:20:51.280 --> 02:20:52.399 Can't control sick. 2672 02:20:54.760 --> 02:20:55.799 Well, it's fair. 2673 02:21:03.440 --> 02:21:07.799 The monster, the maniac SID is in E c W. 2674 02:21:17.479 --> 02:21:18.200 Well, there you have it. 2675 02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:19.559 That's wild. 2676 02:21:19.639 --> 02:21:21.040 Sid is in the land of the extreme. You've never 2677 02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:23.719 seen that, No, I've never seen that before. Thoughts on 2678 02:21:23.799 --> 02:21:25.639 SID and a gene vest in jeans, and. 2679 02:21:27.200 --> 02:21:29.959 You know, it kind of works. Actually, it's it's funny, 2680 02:21:30.040 --> 02:21:32.719 you know, with the the genes and stuff. He actually 2681 02:21:32.799 --> 02:21:35.639 kind of looks bigger. Yeah, you know, he looks more 2682 02:21:35.879 --> 02:21:39.479 uh more, I don't know, threatening, and. 2683 02:21:39.520 --> 02:21:41.680 It kind of looks like he's here for like extra curriculars. 2684 02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:44.399 He's not here at a world title, you know, he's 2685 02:21:44.440 --> 02:21:44.959 not in gear. 2686 02:21:47.280 --> 02:21:48.719 Yeah, I suppose that is true as well. 2687 02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:50.760 I was in like a hired gun and power bombs 2688 02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:52.799 the shit out a job like he's like an assassin 2689 02:21:52.879 --> 02:21:55.920 of sorts, right, which is great positioning for him, because 2690 02:21:55.920 --> 02:21:58.680 you can't just as well get into the fucking snake 2691 02:21:58.719 --> 02:22:00.920 pit with this guy actually have them feed with one 2692 02:22:00.959 --> 02:22:04.079 of your wrestlers. Although to hear Sid talk about it, 2693 02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:07.559 entreaties were made and he came in with the expectation 2694 02:22:07.639 --> 02:22:10.600 that ec Dot and Trees, yeah and Trace with a 2695 02:22:10.600 --> 02:22:12.959 pig big money offer. You know, we talked about not 2696 02:22:13.079 --> 02:22:15.040 too long ago the kind of money that Mike Ausain 2697 02:22:15.120 --> 02:22:18.239 was able to sign for before winning the CW Championship 2698 02:22:19.760 --> 02:22:21.280 and getting a hand of that, our hands on that 2699 02:22:21.399 --> 02:22:25.600 contract ahead of talking about him in WCW, and it 2700 02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:28.479 was it was pretty wild, the kind of you know, 2701 02:22:28.760 --> 02:22:30.840 six figure deals that Paul Hayman was willing to ink 2702 02:22:30.840 --> 02:22:33.200 at this time without a whole hell of a lot 2703 02:22:33.239 --> 02:22:35.959 to show for it from a revenue standpoint, although you know, 2704 02:22:36.159 --> 02:22:38.440 in nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine, early ninety nine at 2705 02:22:38.520 --> 02:22:40.719 least there was reason for optimism that as they settled 2706 02:22:40.719 --> 02:22:42.280 in on pay per view and really hit their stride 2707 02:22:42.319 --> 02:22:44.440 and cleared in more systems, that significant revenue was going 2708 02:22:44.479 --> 02:22:46.479 to start coming in from these shows and that it 2709 02:22:46.520 --> 02:22:48.239 would lead to more ticket sales and merchandise, and they 2710 02:22:48.239 --> 02:22:50.639 were getting licensing and things like that. So but come on, 2711 02:22:51.280 --> 02:22:53.799 there are reasons to think that problem start affording these contracts. 2712 02:22:53.840 --> 02:22:55.920 But the contract at the level that SID is expecting 2713 02:22:56.040 --> 02:22:59.399 is just asking for trouble. And so it's probably just 2714 02:22:59.479 --> 02:23:01.360 as well that he just positioned as this killer that 2715 02:23:01.440 --> 02:23:03.079 came in and took people out and not somebody that 2716 02:23:03.200 --> 02:23:05.079 was actually a pushed singles wrestler. Though we did have 2717 02:23:05.479 --> 02:23:07.920 a handful of formal matches, it wasn't all just run 2718 02:23:08.000 --> 02:23:09.760 in some and power bombs like that. But that was 2719 02:23:09.879 --> 02:23:12.120 night one for SID there at Guilty is charged. And 2720 02:23:12.239 --> 02:23:14.319 you know, it makes some sense because Paul Hayman was 2721 02:23:14.399 --> 02:23:17.440 known to SID back from the Continental days of course 2722 02:23:17.799 --> 02:23:20.200 Territory where he first linked up with Bruno Lauer Downtown, 2723 02:23:20.200 --> 02:23:23.559 Bruno's manager as Lord Humongus. Paul Hayman was also there 2724 02:23:23.559 --> 02:23:25.600 at the time, cutting his teeth as a manager, and 2725 02:23:25.719 --> 02:23:27.840 of course followed Eddie Gilbert who was the booker in 2726 02:23:28.000 --> 02:23:31.879 Continental to WCW where he became poly dangerously and following 2727 02:23:32.079 --> 02:23:34.479 shortly behind was in fact Sid, who, as we've talked 2728 02:23:34.520 --> 02:23:37.079 about earlier in our Sid tribute, really had the door 2729 02:23:37.120 --> 02:23:39.760 open to him to World Championship Wrestling by virtue of 2730 02:23:39.840 --> 02:23:42.440 Eddie Gilbert coming and working on the booking commute such 2731 02:23:42.440 --> 02:23:45.479 as it was. So it makes some sense that, you know, 2732 02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:48.520 Hayman would have Sid's ear in a way that maybe 2733 02:23:48.600 --> 02:23:51.120 other indie promoters at the time in nineteen ninety eight 2734 02:23:51.159 --> 02:23:53.559 and nineteen ninety nine wouldn't It also accounts for why 2735 02:23:53.600 --> 02:23:55.399 he was able to bring in Dusty Rhodes a year later, 2736 02:23:55.440 --> 02:23:57.840 as we talked about recently where we looked at his 2737 02:23:57.920 --> 02:24:01.360 feud and match with Steve Carino, and so Sid is 2738 02:24:01.399 --> 02:24:03.280 an ECW, and I just remember it being such a 2739 02:24:03.360 --> 02:24:06.040 mind fuck because I don't know, you kind of put 2740 02:24:06.079 --> 02:24:08.680 ECW in a certain category of you know, they're gonna 2741 02:24:08.719 --> 02:24:12.719 make do with this ragtag group of guys that for 2742 02:24:12.840 --> 02:24:15.559 the most part got over under their roof, right, and 2743 02:24:15.680 --> 02:24:17.600 so you told yourself are doing it kind of at 2744 02:24:17.639 --> 02:24:19.879 a cut rate to try to ride this revolution as 2745 02:24:19.920 --> 02:24:22.280 far as it's going to go, and these aren't This 2746 02:24:22.319 --> 02:24:25.200 isn't necessarily the most transactional locker room. With WWF and 2747 02:24:25.280 --> 02:24:27.959 WCW breathing down their next trying to sign guys, it 2748 02:24:28.040 --> 02:24:29.719 seemed like as they hit their own stride on pay 2749 02:24:29.719 --> 02:24:31.639 per view that now MAYBECW could afford to keep some 2750 02:24:31.719 --> 02:24:34.920 guys around, but not necessarily afford somebody like Sid, and 2751 02:24:35.000 --> 02:24:37.120 that was one of the prevailing things. I remember when 2752 02:24:37.120 --> 02:24:39.319 Sid came into ECW, it was just like, whoa like, 2753 02:24:40.159 --> 02:24:42.200 did they have a lot more money than I realized? 2754 02:24:43.120 --> 02:24:43.520 What is this? 2755 02:24:43.680 --> 02:24:46.079 I mean, I know the particulars at all at the 2756 02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:48.840 time of how much Sid was making, but didn't take 2757 02:24:48.879 --> 02:24:50.239 a lot to deduce that he was one of the 2758 02:24:50.280 --> 02:24:53.799 better paid wrestlers in the business at the time. So 2759 02:24:53.840 --> 02:24:55.239 to see him come out in ECW as. 2760 02:24:55.159 --> 02:24:57.200 Really it's kind of insane, like it, I mean, it's 2761 02:24:57.840 --> 02:25:01.520 it is a trip. And it's also you know, he's 2762 02:25:01.600 --> 02:25:04.000 just too much, you know when you when you look 2763 02:25:04.000 --> 02:25:11.520 at ECW, it's it's not you know, he's so much 2764 02:25:11.639 --> 02:25:16.399 part of the of like the machine, yes, you know, 2765 02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:20.879 and he's not. Really these are for people the ECW. 2766 02:25:21.040 --> 02:25:23.319 To me, it has always been people who who aren't 2767 02:25:23.319 --> 02:25:25.840 part of the machines who are trying to get themselves over. 2768 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.959 Exactly, and that's right. This is guys who, for whatever 2769 02:25:29.079 --> 02:25:31.719 reason wouldn't necessarily get an opportunity in the big two companies, 2770 02:25:32.159 --> 02:25:34.159 and for that reason, ECW is the place that they're 2771 02:25:34.200 --> 02:25:36.600 really going to go all out because that's their only 2772 02:25:36.680 --> 02:25:38.440 chance to really shine at a higher level. And for 2773 02:25:38.479 --> 02:25:40.680 a lot of guys, that was the case here with Sid. 2774 02:25:40.799 --> 02:25:43.520 You're absolutely right. It was one of those proof points 2775 02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:46.000 that happened all the time in ECW where these fans 2776 02:25:46.079 --> 02:25:49.600 were so vehemently anti WWF, anti WCW, anti the Big two. 2777 02:25:50.159 --> 02:25:54.200 But the second any of those guys graced the ECW 2778 02:25:54.319 --> 02:25:57.120 a reno with their presence, these these fans just fell 2779 02:25:57.440 --> 02:25:59.639 in love with anybody that had been on television in 2780 02:25:59.680 --> 02:26:02.920 the week. I'm not anybody, but anybody that had been 2781 02:26:02.959 --> 02:26:06.280 a superstar. It instantly wasn't like, what the fuck is 2782 02:26:06.319 --> 02:26:08.440 he doing here? It instantly became, oh my god, he's 2783 02:26:08.680 --> 02:26:10.159 you know, he's deemed us worthy. 2784 02:26:10.559 --> 02:26:10.799 Yeah. 2785 02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:13.000 What was was the prevailing feeling and the way they 2786 02:26:13.040 --> 02:26:15.040 popped for Sid and the way the way they want 2787 02:26:15.040 --> 02:26:17.559 to Sid see Sid do all of his routine stuff, 2788 02:26:18.040 --> 02:26:19.520 and they want to see the chokes limb. They want 2789 02:26:19.520 --> 02:26:22.040 to see the power bomb. It just shocked me, honestly. 2790 02:26:22.079 --> 02:26:24.680 I didn't think they would reject the guy. Yeah, but 2791 02:26:24.799 --> 02:26:27.079 to rejoice that much that Sid was there. It surprised 2792 02:26:27.079 --> 02:26:28.639 me in a similar way when Rick Rude came in 2793 02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:31.000 It Barely Legal, and Jake Roberts showed up, and Jerry 2794 02:26:31.040 --> 02:26:33.639 Lawler showed up and Dusty Rhodes showed up. We talked 2795 02:26:33.680 --> 02:26:36.840 about how surprising it was that Dusty was so wholeheartedly 2796 02:26:36.920 --> 02:26:38.719 embraced in the land of extreme. You know, they tried 2797 02:26:38.760 --> 02:26:40.879 to play the whole on the original hardcore whatever the fuck. 2798 02:26:40.959 --> 02:26:42.600 But you know, the fact of the matter is he 2799 02:26:42.719 --> 02:26:45.920 was running WCW at the time when ECW was at 2800 02:26:45.920 --> 02:26:47.239 its most anti establishment. 2801 02:26:47.600 --> 02:26:47.879 Wow. 2802 02:26:48.159 --> 02:26:50.399 He was a guy that kind of embodied the anti 2803 02:26:51.040 --> 02:26:53.440 break your neck for the business and ring work rate 2804 02:26:54.319 --> 02:26:56.840 approach that so many guys in ECW were respected by 2805 02:26:56.879 --> 02:26:59.159 the fans for, and Sid too. Sid's not a guy 2806 02:26:59.159 --> 02:27:01.840 that's going to go out there and kill himself for 2807 02:27:01.959 --> 02:27:04.360 great match, No, no, absolutely not. He worked harder than 2808 02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:07.239 I think his reputation proceeded, but still not a good 2809 02:27:07.280 --> 02:27:09.360 fit for the style de jure and ECW. But the 2810 02:27:09.399 --> 02:27:12.600 people just didn't fucking care. They kind of did the 2811 02:27:12.639 --> 02:27:14.520 similar thing with nine one one, where he choke slammed 2812 02:27:14.520 --> 02:27:17.680 everyone from you know, out of their fucking boots for 2813 02:27:17.760 --> 02:27:19.120 weeks and weeks and months and months and months. 2814 02:27:19.200 --> 02:27:19.680 People love that. 2815 02:27:19.879 --> 02:27:22.120 That guy couldn't do anything. You didn't know anything about wrestling. 2816 02:27:22.200 --> 02:27:23.200 He just choke slammed people. 2817 02:27:23.520 --> 02:27:26.520 So I don't know anything about him, indeed, rest in peace. 2818 02:27:27.239 --> 02:27:29.360 But they had, you know, they had that kind of 2819 02:27:29.520 --> 02:27:31.840 archetype in ECW somebody that could fit in as just 2820 02:27:31.920 --> 02:27:34.920 this crazy monster that would just come in and crush 2821 02:27:34.959 --> 02:27:37.600 people for spectacle. And I'm sure it was going somewhere, 2822 02:27:38.000 --> 02:27:40.079 but where Sid thought it was going, a fucking two 2823 02:27:40.159 --> 02:27:42.079 hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year contract was not 2824 02:27:42.319 --> 02:27:45.239 ever probably going to be the case. But in terms 2825 02:27:45.280 --> 02:27:48.760 of the pre existing relationship between U, Sid and Paully 2826 02:27:49.479 --> 02:27:52.280 interesting insight into it. Sid once did an interview with 2827 02:27:52.360 --> 02:27:54.600 the In Your Head podcast series where he talked a 2828 02:27:54.639 --> 02:27:57.360 little bit about Polly, and he talks about him here 2829 02:27:57.520 --> 02:28:00.319 in answering a question about Dave Marquez, who was a 2830 02:28:00.360 --> 02:28:02.440 long time independent wrestling promoter on the West Coast who 2831 02:28:02.520 --> 02:28:04.399 was booking people at the time of this interview and 2832 02:28:04.479 --> 02:28:07.120 who you know Sid had an opinion about because he'd 2833 02:28:07.399 --> 02:28:09.799 been in dialogue with him about potentially making an appearance. 2834 02:28:09.959 --> 02:28:12.319 And the only reason that's relevant is because Sid decides 2835 02:28:12.399 --> 02:28:16.000 to contrast in one very particular way Dave Marquez with 2836 02:28:16.079 --> 02:28:17.680 the Paul Hayman he knew from ECW. 2837 02:28:18.799 --> 02:28:21.040 Uh you mentioned Dave Marquez And I don't know if 2838 02:28:21.040 --> 02:28:24.000 this ever got to you or not, but somebody who 2839 02:28:24.079 --> 02:28:26.000 knows Dave Marcus told me that he came up with 2840 02:28:26.120 --> 02:28:28.680 an idea for you where you'd be like you were 2841 02:28:28.760 --> 02:28:31.159 frozen or something and then you get you like thought 2842 02:28:31.239 --> 02:28:34.479 out for your return. No, it was very big, are. 2843 02:28:36.600 --> 02:28:36.639 No? 2844 02:28:37.799 --> 02:28:39.520 No, I will think first, I don't think, you know, 2845 02:28:40.200 --> 02:28:42.399 those guys are really nice guys, and I think the 2846 02:28:42.639 --> 02:28:46.840 group of guys that tried really really hard, but the 2847 02:28:47.399 --> 02:28:51.120 Nume have a a lot of uh sense of the business. 2848 02:28:51.159 --> 02:28:59.760 I think you Dave of Spanish American version of Paul Lee. Yeah, 2849 02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:03.680 I swear, but he's a little cleaner, a little more 2850 02:29:04.200 --> 02:29:12.079 educated than Paulo. But enough said, I said, But you 2851 02:29:12.120 --> 02:29:15.000 know that's that's sort of the deal. There's like, man, 2852 02:29:15.079 --> 02:29:17.120 you don't know this guy's taking your shirt when you leave, 2853 02:29:17.159 --> 02:29:19.760 when you leave your room, you know, it looks for 2854 02:29:19.840 --> 02:29:26.520 your wallet. Then this guy talks too smooth. Man, I 2855 02:29:26.600 --> 02:29:29.239 feel like I've been gone to president and rape. That's 2856 02:29:29.280 --> 02:29:35.479 a conversation with you guy, Paul you know, just you know, 2857 02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:38.600 it's just was nasty little dude, never showered and stuff, 2858 02:29:38.639 --> 02:29:48.639 you know, so charm and that he really started not 2859 02:29:48.760 --> 02:29:51.360 taking showers there at the end, and that's where he 2860 02:29:51.399 --> 02:29:53.040 gives you that dirty version of him, you know. So 2861 02:29:53.200 --> 02:29:55.280 I think that's why it gives Daymark Quz to say 2862 02:29:55.360 --> 02:30:00.399 the upper swing on him. Say, you know what, talking face, 2863 02:30:00.840 --> 02:30:06.000 we call those things hygiene hygiene. Yeah, the hygiene level 2864 02:30:06.120 --> 02:30:08.000 daymarkies is like a day ahead of Paul. 2865 02:30:09.760 --> 02:30:11.399 Does he compliment the man anyway? 2866 02:30:12.120 --> 02:30:13.000 No, of course I did. 2867 02:30:16.559 --> 02:30:18.120 What the fuck he's saying? 2868 02:30:18.200 --> 02:30:21.200 Dave Marquez is like Polly, except he's cleaner than Paully. 2869 02:30:21.319 --> 02:30:27.879 And Paulie stopped taking showers towards the end. Okay, smelled okay, 2870 02:30:27.879 --> 02:30:30.479 And he says that, uh sure, he smells like fucking roses, 2871 02:30:30.559 --> 02:30:33.000 a hygiene thing. He couldn't think of the word for hygiene. 2872 02:30:34.719 --> 02:30:40.440 So yeah, definitely an interesting dynamic between Sid and Paulie. 2873 02:30:40.479 --> 02:30:43.000 As he looks back on it. Yeah, but here's how 2874 02:30:43.040 --> 02:30:44.840 it happened, here's how it came together to get him 2875 02:30:44.879 --> 02:30:45.319 to come into E. 2876 02:30:45.479 --> 02:30:45.840 C W. 2877 02:30:46.239 --> 02:30:48.360 And Uh, as you can imagine, and as I can 2878 02:30:48.399 --> 02:30:51.799 assure you, it's all very sid So. 2879 02:30:52.120 --> 02:30:55.479 I got a call from Paul and he was, you know, said, 2880 02:30:55.479 --> 02:30:58.520 hey like to bring in sort of a you know, 2881 02:30:59.079 --> 02:31:00.719 unadvertised in the beginning. 2882 02:31:01.479 --> 02:31:01.600 Uh. 2883 02:31:02.200 --> 02:31:05.559 I know, for what I think I know of the business, 2884 02:31:05.600 --> 02:31:08.000 I think he was really doing a great job a 2885 02:31:08.079 --> 02:31:12.399 way he was using me. It was pretty much like said, 2886 02:31:12.559 --> 02:31:17.360 usually unannounced, unadvertised. I'd show up, you know, power bottle 2887 02:31:17.399 --> 02:31:20.159 a bunch of guys, especially at their TV tapings, and 2888 02:31:20.239 --> 02:31:24.520 then then they then they were doing some advertising for 2889 02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:24.840 some of. 2890 02:31:24.840 --> 02:31:26.959 The house shows. But this was was the problem. 2891 02:31:27.559 --> 02:31:30.600 We had a deal worked out where say, you know, 2892 02:31:30.680 --> 02:31:32.680 one hundred dollars a week, I can't remember what it was, 2893 02:31:33.280 --> 02:31:36.200 and if I worked over two days or whatever like 2894 02:31:36.319 --> 02:31:39.760 that was become extra money. Sure, well, I told him 2895 02:31:39.760 --> 02:31:41.840 I was willing to work as many days as possible, 2896 02:31:42.079 --> 02:31:43.879 and then he would call me and say, hey, what 2897 02:31:44.000 --> 02:31:46.920 about this weekend. Well, this weekend, Morty booked me and 2898 02:31:47.200 --> 02:31:51.600 he'd already advertised me for some of those towns. But 2899 02:31:51.799 --> 02:31:54.079 I can't remember now, but outside of New York of it, 2900 02:31:54.719 --> 02:31:58.200 and then people started wrapped giving me a wrap of 2901 02:31:58.360 --> 02:32:01.120 doing the Nose Show, which I oh my god, I 2902 02:32:01.159 --> 02:32:02.879 did know I was advertised because I know when I 2903 02:32:02.920 --> 02:32:05.680 was advertised, I would have made the show because we 2904 02:32:05.760 --> 02:32:07.440 were also trying to work to do. If he could 2905 02:32:07.440 --> 02:32:10.520 have paid me, to say, up to two hundred and 2906 02:32:10.520 --> 02:32:12.360 fifty thousand dollars a year, then I was going to. 2907 02:32:12.360 --> 02:32:13.280 Be a permanent figure. 2908 02:32:13.520 --> 02:32:16.200 Okay, you know, so that you know he was trying 2909 02:32:16.239 --> 02:32:18.159 to talk me into that, which I was trying to 2910 02:32:18.200 --> 02:32:19.879 talk us about it, you know, because I was always 2911 02:32:19.920 --> 02:32:21.360 I was looking to go to one of two big 2912 02:32:21.440 --> 02:32:22.280 companies at the time. 2913 02:32:23.079 --> 02:32:24.760 That's crazy that they were really trying to make a 2914 02:32:24.799 --> 02:32:27.479 play for Sid like that. Yeah, I don't really believe it, 2915 02:32:27.520 --> 02:32:28.879 But what do you know, boss, I mean, what what 2916 02:32:28.959 --> 02:32:31.879 a circumstance where Sid finds himself in a place that 2917 02:32:32.319 --> 02:32:35.200 someone's advertising him for a show that he knows he 2918 02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:37.079 can't make, and the promoter knows he can't make, and 2919 02:32:37.159 --> 02:32:38.479 he gets this reputation as a no. 2920 02:32:38.600 --> 02:32:41.959 Show Sid get out of here. 2921 02:32:42.040 --> 02:32:44.680 I mean, come on, It's just amazing how a guy 2922 02:32:44.799 --> 02:32:47.959 who did no show things also was such a victim 2923 02:32:48.000 --> 02:32:52.159 of circumstance in that when he didn't show up, promoters 2924 02:32:52.239 --> 02:32:53.200 just took advantage of that. 2925 02:32:53.280 --> 02:32:54.959 And just we're able to come on. 2926 02:32:55.159 --> 02:32:57.959 Hey fave the people into thinking, based on his past reputation, 2927 02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:00.479 that yeah, this is something he would do. But according 2928 02:33:00.520 --> 02:33:02.399 to Sid Paul was advertising him for shows he was 2929 02:33:02.479 --> 02:33:04.280 never even on. And again all they did was ask 2930 02:33:04.360 --> 02:33:06.760 him how the CID how the ECW thing came together, 2931 02:33:07.079 --> 02:33:10.600 And pretty soon he's meandering into this whole excuse series 2932 02:33:10.680 --> 02:33:14.680 about oh, of course for everything, and he's going to 2933 02:33:15.120 --> 02:33:17.120 it's going to find its way into the conversation even 2934 02:33:17.120 --> 02:33:20.639 if he's not asked directly, because that's his his pre 2935 02:33:20.639 --> 02:33:23.200 eminent memory about every little chapter of his career is 2936 02:33:23.719 --> 02:33:26.319 you know, a moment where he did, arguably at least 2937 02:33:26.360 --> 02:33:29.399 to me, uh, pulled a power play and uh and 2938 02:33:29.479 --> 02:33:30.680 it had hurt him in the eyes of the fans 2939 02:33:30.760 --> 02:33:32.639 or something or the consumer. And he's going to make 2940 02:33:32.719 --> 02:33:34.479 up for that here in the interview and explain that 2941 02:33:34.520 --> 02:33:37.360 he was he wasn't told about the shows he was 2942 02:33:37.399 --> 02:33:41.000 advertised on. And as Bruce Richard said, you got Vince's number, 2943 02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:42.959 and I'm sure he had Paully's number as well, but 2944 02:33:43.159 --> 02:33:45.879 here we go, here goes the the fun and games 2945 02:33:46.079 --> 02:33:48.680 in the land of extreme when you're inessed with Sid. 2946 02:33:49.200 --> 02:33:51.040 He did go on to say that ECW was the 2947 02:33:51.079 --> 02:33:53.040 second most fun he had had in the business. Now 2948 02:33:53.120 --> 02:33:55.920 this is a shoot interviews he's doing shortly after the run, 2949 02:33:56.239 --> 02:33:58.159 where it probably made a little more sense to stay 2950 02:33:58.200 --> 02:34:00.520 in the good graces of Polly than any else. But 2951 02:34:01.040 --> 02:34:02.600 talked about guys being really nice to him in the 2952 02:34:02.639 --> 02:34:05.520 ECW locker room, calling out Saboo and Rob Van Dam 2953 02:34:05.639 --> 02:34:09.440 in particular and RVD what's pretty complimentary reflecting on Sid 2954 02:34:09.520 --> 02:34:12.520 after his passing on his podcast and such. So he's 2955 02:34:12.559 --> 02:34:15.120 doing an indie show and then he does a Queen's 2956 02:34:15.120 --> 02:34:17.959 ECW taping and or at least he shows up, I 2957 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:21.799 should say, at a Queen's ECW taping because he's owed money. 2958 02:34:23.280 --> 02:34:24.920 He's owed money and he's not happy that. 2959 02:34:25.239 --> 02:34:28.639 Paul you know, come on exactly then nothing. You know, 2960 02:34:29.120 --> 02:34:31.559 if he's owed money, he's going to cause a stink. 2961 02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:33.600 And that Paulie is telling people he's going to be 2962 02:34:33.639 --> 02:34:36.000 at a show that he isn't going to be at, 2963 02:34:36.159 --> 02:34:37.639 which you know, is just something that always ends up 2964 02:34:37.639 --> 02:34:41.479 happening to the guy, and he gets his reputation as 2965 02:34:41.479 --> 02:34:43.200 a no show. So he shows up with a Tommy 2966 02:34:43.280 --> 02:34:45.719 Rodgers who's a longtime veteran of the business and also 2967 02:34:45.840 --> 02:34:47.719 was with ECW at the time and apparently had made 2968 02:34:48.200 --> 02:34:50.559 an alliance with SID because he also had concerns about 2969 02:34:50.600 --> 02:34:53.120 money and ECW was so many others would go on 2970 02:34:53.280 --> 02:34:55.319 to have and you know, Sid, I just want to 2971 02:34:55.360 --> 02:34:58.479 be clear, boss, when he shows up unannounced or uninvited 2972 02:34:58.760 --> 02:35:01.879 to this Queen's ECW after this bit of curflow, he 2973 02:35:02.000 --> 02:35:05.120 is definitely not crying to strong arm Paul Hayman. 2974 02:35:05.239 --> 02:35:08.120 Okay, well, I showed up and Paul is freaking you know, 2975 02:35:08.239 --> 02:35:10.840 because I was with Tommy Rodgers's the time. Rogers was 2976 02:35:10.920 --> 02:35:14.440 owed some money as well. Of course Tommy forced him 2977 02:35:14.440 --> 02:35:16.239 to give him cash. I said, Paul, you send me 2978 02:35:16.319 --> 02:35:18.600 another check. You know, I know, you know you're You've 2979 02:35:18.639 --> 02:35:20.799 been good to me. I'm not here to worry about 2980 02:35:20.840 --> 02:35:23.399 my money. I'm just here dropping and saying what's going on? 2981 02:35:23.600 --> 02:35:25.719 Why haven't you called me? You know, things like why 2982 02:35:25.760 --> 02:35:28.319 are you I'm getting the wrap of not doing those 2983 02:35:28.319 --> 02:35:29.920 shows and you haven't told me that I was booked 2984 02:35:29.959 --> 02:35:31.959 on any of these shows. And he was so paranoid. 2985 02:35:31.959 --> 02:35:33.959 He wouldn't let me, you know, anybody see me through 2986 02:35:34.000 --> 02:35:37.000 the curtain and stuff like that. I think it sort 2987 02:35:37.040 --> 02:35:38.840 of got blown out of portion and I came there 2988 02:35:38.879 --> 02:35:42.079 to strong arm some people, which I didn't. You know, 2989 02:35:42.440 --> 02:35:45.120 I came with Tommy Rogers, who's you know, a little 2990 02:35:45.120 --> 02:35:48.479 bitty guy said, and uh, never even took any money, 2991 02:35:48.520 --> 02:35:50.200 you know, he sent me my money and the check 2992 02:35:50.360 --> 02:35:50.600 was good. 2993 02:35:51.600 --> 02:35:54.280 Definitely not a strong arm thing. No, no, no, it's 2994 02:35:54.280 --> 02:35:55.600 going to make the record clear there. 2995 02:35:56.959 --> 02:35:57.680 The weak arm thing. 2996 02:35:57.719 --> 02:36:00.479 Actually, it's pretty funny to think about Paul French trying 2997 02:36:00.479 --> 02:36:02.040 to make sure that the fans don't see him so 2998 02:36:02.079 --> 02:36:06.239 they expect Sid to come out later and be disappointed. 2999 02:36:10.799 --> 02:36:13.559 It's like, I don't know, if you're concerned that the 3000 02:36:13.680 --> 02:36:16.000 fans might be disappointed, maybe he's not the right guy 3001 02:36:16.079 --> 02:36:16.520 for the job. 3002 02:36:16.719 --> 02:36:17.719 Yeah, I know, I know. 3003 02:36:17.760 --> 02:36:20.680 If you find yourself having to actively hide someone who 3004 02:36:20.799 --> 02:36:22.639 is one of the bigger stars in the industry from 3005 02:36:22.680 --> 02:36:25.280 your fan base, maybe there's a problem here. Maybe yeah, 3006 02:36:25.680 --> 02:36:30.159 maybe something isn't correctly calibrated in the first place. But yeah, 3007 02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:32.079 you're not going to tell people Sid's going to be somewhere, 3008 02:36:32.159 --> 02:36:34.600 not tell him about the show and then foist the 3009 02:36:34.639 --> 02:36:36.760 heat on him, which is what he said happened. But 3010 02:36:36.879 --> 02:36:38.760 he got his check in the mail. He got his 3011 02:36:38.879 --> 02:36:40.840 check in the mail. He didn't demand cash on site, 3012 02:36:40.879 --> 02:36:42.520 so this was hardly a strong arm thing. He just 3013 02:36:42.600 --> 02:36:44.280 showed up without being invited. I don't know what the 3014 02:36:44.280 --> 02:36:48.079 big deal is, So we fast forward. He never does 3015 02:36:48.159 --> 02:36:51.440 that Living Dangerously nineteen ninety nine, which is ECW second 3016 02:36:51.440 --> 02:36:52.280 pay per view of the year. 3017 02:36:52.399 --> 02:36:54.319 It seems like that's what Sid is doing all the time. 3018 02:36:54.479 --> 02:36:58.440 Absolutely, absolutely, And the Dudleys are in the ring, and 3019 02:36:58.680 --> 02:37:02.159 it's going to really be an interesting flashpoint I think 3020 02:37:02.360 --> 02:37:05.000 for SID and the culture clash of the CW locker room. 3021 02:37:05.000 --> 02:37:07.879 Of course, whenever you involve Bubba Dudley and anything, it's 3022 02:37:07.920 --> 02:37:12.680 going to be a fucking, you know, fiasco. And and 3023 02:37:12.840 --> 02:37:16.520 here I'm trying to decode some of what Sid saying 3024 02:37:16.559 --> 02:37:19.200 in an R video shoot interview about THECW run. He's 3025 02:37:19.239 --> 02:37:22.840 trying to make reference to something involving a table. Apparently 3026 02:37:22.920 --> 02:37:24.879 some moment that was going to be climactic where somebody 3027 02:37:24.920 --> 02:37:27.280 puts him through a table finally, and this apparently was 3028 02:37:27.319 --> 02:37:29.399 a big fucking negotiation or something. It wasn't just a 3029 02:37:29.440 --> 02:37:31.920 spot called one Night, and Sid wants you to know, 3030 02:37:32.360 --> 02:37:34.559 despite what you may have heard, he volunteers this. Of course, 3031 02:37:34.639 --> 02:37:36.760 no one asked him about it, that he was totally 3032 02:37:36.799 --> 02:37:42.479 willing to do the table thing if they didn't try 3033 02:37:42.520 --> 02:37:48.680 to sneak it in. The problem was, the problem was 3034 02:37:48.959 --> 02:37:49.520 mult listening. 3035 02:37:49.559 --> 02:37:56.799 Problem was those guys all were uh, Bubba Dudley and 3036 02:37:59.000 --> 02:38:01.639 super nice guy, a little bit of a prima donna. 3037 02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:05.239 But I don't know if it was you know, maybe 3038 02:38:05.280 --> 02:38:06.879 he was jealous of me coming in. I don't know, 3039 02:38:07.040 --> 02:38:10.639 maybe that's just his personality. I've got personality. People take 3040 02:38:10.680 --> 02:38:12.959 the wrong way too, because I'm quiet to myself a lot, 3041 02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:14.479 you know, and try to get to know people. But 3042 02:38:15.079 --> 02:38:16.840 they are a lot of fun to work with Saboo. 3043 02:38:17.159 --> 02:38:20.079 That made it a lot of fun too. And uh, 3044 02:38:20.440 --> 02:38:22.879 you know, this is what is bad about the business. 3045 02:38:24.159 --> 02:38:26.200 I didn't realize that till at the end, that they 3046 02:38:26.239 --> 02:38:28.680 were setting me up for a table deal for a Saboo. 3047 02:38:29.040 --> 02:38:30.239 All they had to do is asking me. 3048 02:38:30.719 --> 02:38:31.600 I don't mind. 3049 02:38:31.959 --> 02:38:35.479 And if anybody really looks back and sees the things 3050 02:38:35.520 --> 02:38:40.079 I've done, I have honestly volunteered to do more jobs 3051 02:38:40.200 --> 02:38:42.799 than most people have done like beause, especially if I 3052 02:38:42.920 --> 02:38:45.200 was a main event and they came with a d 3053 02:38:45.399 --> 02:38:48.440 Q or a double count out, I said, no, I'm 3054 02:38:48.440 --> 02:38:50.520 putting the guy over, you know, especially as a hill. 3055 02:38:50.920 --> 02:38:53.399 You know, I said, this is not this is not 3056 02:38:53.479 --> 02:38:56.799 the way to end the show. So that's the thing 3057 02:38:56.959 --> 02:38:59.200 is that they would have just presented that to me, 3058 02:38:59.280 --> 02:39:03.200 and I tried to I still have now what. 3059 02:39:03.280 --> 02:39:04.920 The fuck he's talking about. I don't know. 3060 02:39:05.559 --> 02:39:07.120 We talking about the Dudley's and he's talking about a 3061 02:39:07.120 --> 02:39:08.920 spot where Sabba was supposed to put him through a table, 3062 02:39:09.760 --> 02:39:12.159 and somehow they expected to try to do that to 3063 02:39:12.280 --> 02:39:14.600 him without telling him and asking him, which I don't 3064 02:39:14.760 --> 02:39:15.440 understand at all. 3065 02:39:15.920 --> 02:39:17.840 But maybe I don't know how that works. Maybe more 3066 02:39:17.959 --> 02:39:18.280 late is. 3067 02:39:18.239 --> 02:39:20.959 About to be shed on how ECW communication used to work, 3068 02:39:21.000 --> 02:39:23.000 and maybe maybe Sid picks up on some of the 3069 02:39:23.040 --> 02:39:24.799 subtle ways that they would try to get over on 3070 02:39:24.920 --> 02:39:28.280 people on television to the benefit of their own homegrown guys. 3071 02:39:28.280 --> 02:39:28.559 I don't know. 3072 02:39:28.600 --> 02:39:30.360 I'm just trying to develop the thesis here based on 3073 02:39:30.639 --> 02:39:34.319 these disparate parts and the weird places that Sid's mind 3074 02:39:34.399 --> 02:39:37.159 goes when he's asked about working with the Dudleys, which, 3075 02:39:37.159 --> 02:39:39.319 of course took places mentioned in a similar segment to 3076 02:39:39.360 --> 02:39:41.239 what we just saw with John Cronos on the Living 3077 02:39:41.360 --> 02:39:43.399 Dangerously pay per view, where the Dudleys is they were 3078 02:39:43.399 --> 02:39:44.959 wont to do at the time, kind of take over 3079 02:39:45.040 --> 02:39:46.760 the middle of the ring. Bubba grabs the mic and 3080 02:39:46.799 --> 02:39:49.959 just starts like a profanity laced tirade against anybody and everybody, 3081 02:39:50.239 --> 02:39:53.479 challenging people, calling out fans, calling him homosexuals and things 3082 02:39:53.600 --> 02:39:56.479 like that. So here's what it sounded like when Sid 3083 02:39:57.000 --> 02:40:00.879 clashed with the Dudley's at ECW Living Day Interesting nineteen. 3084 02:40:01.120 --> 02:40:04.479 Boy, let's not start something. 3085 02:40:04.280 --> 02:40:05.040 We can't finish. 3086 02:40:06.360 --> 02:40:07.360 No one. 3087 02:40:10.799 --> 02:40:11.200 Is there? 3088 02:40:11.399 --> 02:40:13.360 No man with the nuts? 3089 02:40:15.920 --> 02:40:16.280 Is there? 3090 02:40:16.520 --> 02:40:18.280 No man Toumber? Now? 3091 02:40:21.040 --> 02:40:21.440 Is there? 3092 02:40:21.760 --> 02:40:22.559 No man? 3093 02:40:23.920 --> 02:40:24.159 Man? 3094 02:40:24.559 --> 02:40:24.719 Now? 3095 02:40:25.559 --> 02:40:28.079 Tom getting the ring more? 3096 02:40:28.280 --> 02:40:29.520 Godley boys? 3097 02:40:34.799 --> 02:40:36.280 All right, you made your point. 3098 02:40:38.120 --> 02:40:43.239 You embarrass yourselves by spiking Bob Artis with a godly 3099 02:40:43.360 --> 02:40:43.879 death drop. 3100 02:40:47.280 --> 02:40:48.200 Why are you in breads? 3101 02:40:48.360 --> 02:40:51.360 Just quit while you're ahead. Get the hell out of it. 3102 02:40:54.959 --> 02:41:01.319 Oh no, and no jog because bad man, you leave 3103 02:41:01.360 --> 02:41:01.719 me back. 3104 02:41:06.000 --> 02:41:19.239 Change change James Harry, come here. 3105 02:41:14.680 --> 02:41:19.399 It is Wow, there's no bad. 3106 02:41:21.680 --> 02:41:21.920 Enough. 3107 02:41:25.000 --> 02:41:26.920 I'morayan TiVo Dudley. 3108 02:41:27.399 --> 02:41:32.399 Be careful with your whisper because she is here and 3109 02:41:32.559 --> 02:41:33.600 the Dudley boys. 3110 02:41:33.680 --> 02:41:37.799 Look ready, there's no man bad enough. 3111 02:41:39.719 --> 02:41:47.799 You shout, whoa, I wouldn't. 3112 02:41:47.399 --> 02:41:49.200 Look at what. 3113 02:41:51.360 --> 02:42:19.760 You're such a psycho and you're so dicious's razy ro said, 3114 02:42:20.200 --> 02:42:27.399 no man, no man, start shut up, and the Dudley 3115 02:42:27.479 --> 02:42:27.840 wife is. 3116 02:42:27.840 --> 02:42:31.760 Going to work on said, and then you start beating 3117 02:42:31.799 --> 02:42:32.479 said down a bit. 3118 02:42:33.319 --> 02:42:34.239 Oh Jesus. 3119 02:42:36.520 --> 02:42:40.799 And now the four o'clock time World Tag Team Champions. 3120 02:42:43.000 --> 02:42:44.239 And working over. 3121 02:42:45.559 --> 02:42:52.280 The six foot tag Wait, wats palmon? So apian country boy? 3122 02:42:52.760 --> 02:42:54.520 You're sure not pretty mouth? 3123 02:42:55.239 --> 02:42:55.479 WHOA? 3124 02:42:57.120 --> 02:43:21.879 Well, I didn't need to hear that. It's up the rod. 3125 02:43:25.319 --> 02:43:38.280 Whoa there's that ecw ring sound? Yeah, seriously, Sid takes 3126 02:43:38.319 --> 02:43:42.120 over Jesus. He stretches Devon and then Spike Dudley, who 3127 02:43:42.120 --> 02:43:44.280 was there, jumps off the ropes. He's supposed to actually 3128 02:43:44.360 --> 02:43:47.000 jump off Sid's shoulders and clothesline Devon off a stretcher 3129 02:43:47.079 --> 02:43:50.040 that's positioned on a ramp, and it just falls apart. 3130 02:43:50.239 --> 02:43:53.040 Falls apart, of course he does, and then Sid just 3131 02:43:53.079 --> 02:43:54.719 goes out and picks up the stretcher and drops it 3132 02:43:54.760 --> 02:43:57.920 across Devon's back. Spike hits an acid drop on Bubba 3133 02:43:58.000 --> 02:43:59.959 in the ring for the one two three, So basically 3134 02:44:00.159 --> 02:44:02.200 goes down as Spike Dudley and Sid as a team 3135 02:44:02.280 --> 02:44:05.760 defeating the Dudley's here Living Dangerously ninety nine and then 3136 02:44:05.879 --> 02:44:09.159 Sid Well he power bomb Spike Dudley for no reason, no, 3137 02:44:09.760 --> 02:44:11.559 why not in the ring, and then he power bombs 3138 02:44:11.600 --> 02:44:13.319 him off the fucking ramp through a table on the 3139 02:44:13.399 --> 02:44:16.600 concrete at a high rate of speed, extra hard, for 3140 02:44:16.719 --> 02:44:20.799 no reason. And that's Sid styles goes Now, honestly, what 3141 02:44:21.000 --> 02:44:24.040 was the point of that? And I think says it 3142 02:44:24.120 --> 02:44:26.840 all there, and they chance Sid rapidly. Listen at these 3143 02:44:27.120 --> 02:44:29.840 these proud ECW fans buss they can't stop chanting Sid. 3144 02:44:32.319 --> 02:44:36.760 He's such a he is such an a weird phenomenon, 3145 02:44:37.840 --> 02:44:41.079 but he always gets this kind of reaction when he 3146 02:44:41.120 --> 02:44:41.840 first shows up. 3147 02:44:41.760 --> 02:44:43.680 When he first shows up, exactly when people lay eyes 3148 02:44:43.719 --> 02:44:45.159 on him, they just want to see him do his thing, 3149 02:44:45.200 --> 02:44:49.319 and he's doing it here for sure. And they chance 3150 02:44:49.399 --> 02:44:51.319 Sid rapidly as he just walks to the back and 3151 02:44:51.680 --> 02:44:54.159 parts the curtain with them panding up like they used 3152 02:44:54.200 --> 02:44:56.520 to do with that ECW sign right above the entrance curtain. 3153 02:44:56.559 --> 02:44:56.920 And that's it. 3154 02:44:57.040 --> 02:45:00.360 Sid has done what he came to do. Now, Yeah, 3155 02:45:00.479 --> 02:45:03.120 can you imagine just for a second. We heard Bubba 3156 02:45:03.159 --> 02:45:04.840 Dudley's words there. I don't know what you thought about 3157 02:45:04.840 --> 02:45:10.159 his promo, Eh, bob Ry Dudley. Can you imagine getting 3158 02:45:10.200 --> 02:45:14.239 sid to agree to having the Dudley say to him 3159 02:45:14.239 --> 02:45:16.680 when they're beating him down, that's a pretty mouth you got. 3160 02:45:17.639 --> 02:45:22.760 Well, I feel like that's not something he actually agreed to. 3161 02:45:23.120 --> 02:45:25.920 We heard that little twist there in the sit commentary 3162 02:45:25.920 --> 02:45:28.639 from the shoot interview calling making sure to take the 3163 02:45:28.719 --> 02:45:30.559 time to call Bubba Dudley a prima donna? 3164 02:45:31.360 --> 02:45:32.959 What's that about? What could that be? 3165 02:45:34.360 --> 02:45:35.920 Had to be tied to this segment, had to be 3166 02:45:36.000 --> 02:45:37.879 tied to this interaction that he had with the Dudley's 3167 02:45:37.920 --> 02:45:41.239 on a big stage here on pay per view. I've 3168 02:45:41.280 --> 02:45:43.639 never seen the Dudley's comment on it, though, so it's 3169 02:45:43.719 --> 02:45:46.120 kind of it's kind of hard to say, you know 3170 02:45:46.280 --> 02:45:48.520 what what was and wasn't understood ahead of time. Of course, 3171 02:45:48.559 --> 02:45:51.120 a lot of that stuff is just up to our supposition. 3172 02:45:51.280 --> 02:45:57.200 Wait a minute, what's this, KP. 3173 02:45:57.360 --> 02:45:57.840 What's going on? 3174 02:45:58.000 --> 02:45:58.120 Man? 3175 02:45:58.159 --> 02:46:01.120 It's twenty four time world tag team champion Dvon Dudley 3176 02:46:01.200 --> 02:46:03.520 here and now hear you got a couple of questions 3177 02:46:03.559 --> 02:46:04.680 that you want me to answer. 3178 02:46:05.399 --> 02:46:06.680 Now, usually they. 3179 02:46:06.600 --> 02:46:10.559 Don't give me requests. Where people want me to answer questions, 3180 02:46:11.120 --> 02:46:14.920 it's usually wanting to say starting like happy birthday, things 3181 02:46:15.000 --> 02:46:19.040 like that, brother you this so yes, Living Dangerously e 3182 02:46:19.280 --> 02:46:22.399 c W nineteen ninety nine was a very very good 3183 02:46:22.520 --> 02:46:26.239 pay per few for the Dudly boys. We wrestled Sid 3184 02:46:26.399 --> 02:46:29.879 that day, and you know he was a big, big man, 3185 02:46:30.200 --> 02:46:33.239 loved working with. Said crazy as hell, but a really 3186 02:46:33.280 --> 02:46:35.879 really down to earth good guy. One of the questions 3187 02:46:35.959 --> 02:46:38.120 you asked was when Bubba said you got a pretty mouth? 3188 02:46:39.159 --> 02:46:41.719 Was it hard to get Sid to agree with that? Well, 3189 02:46:41.799 --> 02:46:45.680 first and foremost, Bubba never asked, He just said it, 3190 02:46:45.920 --> 02:46:49.000 and that was it. Oh, that was the way we 3191 02:46:49.079 --> 02:46:52.719 did things back then. I said as permission too many times. 3192 02:46:52.760 --> 02:46:56.680 But we knew what level of respect to have for 3193 02:46:56.799 --> 02:46:58.479 a person getting in the ring, such as a guy 3194 02:46:58.639 --> 02:47:01.399 like Sid who had been in WWE, w c W 3195 02:47:02.120 --> 02:47:05.399 and other organizations way before he got to ECW, so 3196 02:47:05.559 --> 02:47:09.120 we knew what ground to flirt with and what grounds 3197 02:47:09.280 --> 02:47:16.600 not to flirt with. He was great to work with, 3198 02:47:18.000 --> 02:47:23.440 very intent, somebody that basically made you push it when 3199 02:47:23.639 --> 02:47:25.040 you didn't want to push it. 3200 02:47:27.479 --> 02:47:31.840 You asked the question, Eric, Sid said. 3201 02:47:32.159 --> 02:47:35.920 Vince said, Vince, I'm sorry Sid said that Bubba was 3202 02:47:35.920 --> 02:47:38.120 at Prima Donna. Well, if he said it, he never 3203 02:47:38.200 --> 02:47:41.159 said it to us. It wasn't something like, you know, 3204 02:47:42.440 --> 02:47:45.120 he said it to be disrespectful anything. He could have 3205 02:47:45.159 --> 02:47:48.479 been in character. We didn't know Sid like that for 3206 02:47:48.600 --> 02:47:50.840 him to make that kind of comment, And we really 3207 02:47:50.879 --> 02:47:52.319 didn't deal with Sid back then. 3208 02:47:52.399 --> 02:47:53.120 At the pay per view. 3209 02:47:53.440 --> 02:47:56.319 It was basically Paul Haman coming to us, telling us 3210 02:47:56.360 --> 02:47:59.799 what he wanted, and then told Sid. And then it 3211 02:47:59.879 --> 02:48:02.559 was conveyed that we understood what Sid would and Sid 3212 02:48:02.639 --> 02:48:03.719 understood what we wanted. 3213 02:48:04.120 --> 02:48:07.319 So we went that way and we had a great 3214 02:48:07.399 --> 02:48:09.840 time in ECW. So again, there was a. 3215 02:48:09.920 --> 02:48:13.079 Level of respect back then that we had for one 3216 02:48:13.079 --> 02:48:15.799 another that we were able to do things like that 3217 02:48:16.200 --> 02:48:21.879 without crossing the line. So I hope that answered your questions. 3218 02:48:22.399 --> 02:48:25.159 And thank you so much for this, and you know, 3219 02:48:25.200 --> 02:48:28.440 I wish you nothing but the best, and take care 3220 02:48:28.479 --> 02:48:30.120 of yourself and hope see you soon. And I hope 3221 02:48:30.120 --> 02:48:32.000 you enjoyed this cameo. Take care of my friend. 3222 02:48:33.040 --> 02:48:48.920 Get the lap fan Wrestling Podcast, the wrestling podcast that 3223 02:48:49.079 --> 02:48:52.520 knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan 3224 02:49:07.239 --> 02:49:11.000 he's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and can. 3225 02:49:13.000 --> 02:49:13.600 Thank you Devon. 3226 02:49:13.799 --> 02:49:17.760 He he feeled the question gamely. Indeed, I think indeed, 3227 02:49:18.159 --> 02:49:20.600 I'm not sure what that Prima Donna comment was all about, 3228 02:49:20.600 --> 02:49:24.000 which is fair game and I guess sure, sure, But 3229 02:49:24.120 --> 02:49:27.479 there's the confirmation that Sid did not see that line coming. 3230 02:49:28.399 --> 02:49:30.239 And it sounds like you sniffed that one out right away. 3231 02:49:32.719 --> 02:49:35.159 Yeah, I would imagine. I don't think sidce he's a 3232 02:49:35.200 --> 02:49:39.120 lot coming in fairness. Right, that's a great point. 3233 02:49:39.200 --> 02:49:41.719 Actually, they could have easily run it by him and 3234 02:49:41.799 --> 02:49:42.799 he would have no clue. 3235 02:49:43.000 --> 02:49:45.520 Yeah, yeah, I mean he could have. I feel like 3236 02:49:45.600 --> 02:49:49.079 they they could have given him an exact line reading 3237 02:49:49.159 --> 02:49:51.079 and he would have been totally taken aback. 3238 02:49:51.200 --> 02:49:51.399 Yeah. 3239 02:49:51.399 --> 02:49:53.319 A lot more in that category to come as we 3240 02:49:53.360 --> 02:49:55.559 continue with our tribute to Sid. But yeah, so that 3241 02:49:55.719 --> 02:49:57.879 line and you can kind of see Sid blow a 3242 02:49:57.920 --> 02:49:59.879 bubble and bubb his face after he you know, call 3243 02:50:00.079 --> 02:50:03.920 some the the the F word slur there and just 3244 02:50:04.000 --> 02:50:06.479 kind of like, Okay, we're doing this, like I'm in 3245 02:50:06.559 --> 02:50:08.360 the ring now, and you're gonna grab the moment and 3246 02:50:08.440 --> 02:50:10.760 say a bunch of things that make you look like 3247 02:50:10.799 --> 02:50:13.239 you're not afraid of me and and running all that 3248 02:50:13.319 --> 02:50:14.959 and knowing you're about to beat me down, you're gonna 3249 02:50:15.040 --> 02:50:18.479 go extra aggressive about of course, it gets his gets 3250 02:50:18.559 --> 02:50:21.159 back on track to say the very least power bombs 3251 02:50:21.200 --> 02:50:23.399 Devon and beats the shit out of a bubba. But 3252 02:50:24.319 --> 02:50:26.600 I don't know that that that pretty little mouth line 3253 02:50:26.719 --> 02:50:29.600 was just not something I think Sid expected to hear. 3254 02:50:29.639 --> 02:50:31.120 What he's on his knees taking the beat down. 3255 02:50:31.360 --> 02:50:35.319 I agree, I agree, And there's it's a very it's 3256 02:50:35.360 --> 02:50:36.079 an interesting one. 3257 02:50:36.440 --> 02:50:40.040 There's the confirmation from Devon himself, and interesting to hear 3258 02:50:40.120 --> 02:50:42.000 him say, like, you know, it's not like we would 3259 02:50:42.000 --> 02:50:44.040 sit down with the people that we would interact with 3260 02:50:44.399 --> 02:50:46.319 and run things by each other. It went through Paul, 3261 02:50:46.879 --> 02:50:49.600 which I can totally see Paul leveraging to the hilt. 3262 02:50:49.799 --> 02:50:52.559 You know, he said this, he said this. I'll bring 3263 02:50:52.639 --> 02:50:55.559 this word back to him, always wanting to be the 3264 02:50:55.639 --> 02:50:57.799 intermediary in case there was anything that had to be 3265 02:50:57.920 --> 02:51:02.440 I don't know, conveniently lost. And yeah, between the parties, 3266 02:51:02.920 --> 02:51:05.040 we didn't know Sid like that. He says, we had 3267 02:51:05.079 --> 02:51:07.120 respect not to cross the line. I don't know, man, 3268 02:51:07.280 --> 02:51:08.920 what as cross the line sound like? I guess they 3269 02:51:08.920 --> 02:51:09.559 could have went out. 3270 02:51:09.440 --> 02:51:12.760 There at DNA. Was that TNA. 3271 02:51:13.159 --> 02:51:14.559 Yeah, he never went over there, so I guess he 3272 02:51:14.840 --> 02:51:17.920 truly didn't cross the line Sid that is, But I 3273 02:51:17.920 --> 02:51:20.159 don't know. That just struck me as a flashpoint in 3274 02:51:20.239 --> 02:51:23.680 his ECW history and might inform why he was sure 3275 02:51:23.760 --> 02:51:27.680 to make that comment when asked about Yeah, yeah, so 3276 02:51:27.799 --> 02:51:31.399 hardcore having comes around May sixteenth, ninety nine mid Hudson 3277 02:51:31.399 --> 02:51:34.079 Civic Center and Poughkeepsie and on the show Just Incredible 3278 02:51:34.120 --> 02:51:36.479 actually worked Sid Vicious. They went to a no contest 3279 02:51:37.360 --> 02:51:41.040 in two minutes. ACRN RVD Credible was rather rather worried 3280 02:51:41.159 --> 02:51:42.719 that he wouldn't be able to get much of a 3281 02:51:42.799 --> 02:51:45.639 match out of Sid, and RVD was there he our 3282 02:51:45.760 --> 02:51:48.280 RVD had this match in mind with Sid that never happened, 3283 02:51:48.399 --> 02:51:51.000 never consummated that he thought really would have been awesome, 3284 02:51:51.000 --> 02:51:52.920 where you know, he'd be able to work all around 3285 02:51:52.959 --> 02:51:55.600 Sid's strengths and really pull some rabbits out of the 3286 02:51:55.639 --> 02:51:58.280 hat and make Sid look better than he ever had. 3287 02:51:58.559 --> 02:52:01.360 And I don't know, I actually hear hearing already talk 3288 02:52:01.360 --> 02:52:04.559 about that. I was kind of intrigued like an rv 3289 02:52:04.639 --> 02:52:06.680 D versus Sid match, I don't think it would suck. 3290 02:52:06.719 --> 02:52:09.360 I really don't. No, I think they could be pretty good. 3291 02:52:09.920 --> 02:52:11.719 I think I think that would actually be I mean, 3292 02:52:12.000 --> 02:52:14.680 I'd be certainly interested to watch it. I wouldn't be 3293 02:52:14.719 --> 02:52:16.120 turned off by it. Yeah. 3294 02:52:16.399 --> 02:52:19.680 Just seeing the way he would the way he would 3295 02:52:19.719 --> 02:52:24.280 take off for some of Sid's power offense would be 3296 02:52:24.399 --> 02:52:25.760 would be really interesting to me. 3297 02:52:26.040 --> 02:52:26.239 Yeah. 3298 02:52:27.360 --> 02:52:29.360 And I could see how RVD would find ways to 3299 02:52:30.319 --> 02:52:33.120 fly into him and really without him having to do 3300 02:52:33.200 --> 02:52:38.079 an awful lot, you know. In according to Just Incredible 3301 02:52:38.120 --> 02:52:41.000 for what it's worth, he saw Sid as a fill 3302 02:52:41.079 --> 02:52:43.879 in for Shane Douglas, who had departed the company. He 3303 02:52:44.000 --> 02:52:46.399 says in his book, we feuded with Dreamer and Douglas 3304 02:52:46.799 --> 02:52:49.440 working a big match together Living Dangerously on March twenty one. 3305 02:52:49.680 --> 02:52:52.280 Soon after that, I lost a match Douglas at Cyber Slam. 3306 02:52:52.360 --> 02:52:54.360 But come mid nineteen ninety nine, the feud with Dreamer 3307 02:52:54.399 --> 02:52:57.719 and Douglas ended when Douglas left the company. Following Douglas's departure, 3308 02:52:57.799 --> 02:53:01.360 Sid Udy Everyone's favorite fill in, took over for Douglas 3309 02:53:01.440 --> 02:53:04.399 for a time. So that's the extent of what he 3310 02:53:04.440 --> 02:53:07.200 says about Sid. But it's interesting to hear him frame 3311 02:53:07.280 --> 02:53:08.879 to someone that was really brought in because they were 3312 02:53:08.920 --> 02:53:12.040 losing Shane Douglas. ECW then moved to Detroit on May 3313 02:53:12.159 --> 02:53:15.520 twenty second of nineteen ninety nine at the Michigan State Fairgrounds, 3314 02:53:15.559 --> 02:53:18.760 where yes, you heard this right, Rod Price goes to 3315 02:53:18.879 --> 02:53:24.159 a note contest with Sid. Wow in ECW, that's the 3316 02:53:24.280 --> 02:53:27.040 main event anywhere in the country, that's the main event 3317 02:53:27.120 --> 02:53:31.680 everyone needs. So here's Sid on his sojourn to ECW 3318 02:53:32.239 --> 02:53:34.799 what it meant to him in retrospect, because that's the 3319 02:53:34.840 --> 02:53:36.520 extent of it. We just read off everything that pretty 3320 02:53:36.559 --> 02:53:38.399 much happened. Seemed like there was an awful lot more 3321 02:53:38.479 --> 02:53:41.319 on the table that didn't actually ever take place. Wow, 3322 02:53:41.760 --> 02:53:44.920 I'm sure after that a surprise meeting in Queen's there 3323 02:53:45.000 --> 02:53:47.319 wasn't much left to the relationship between Sid and ECW, 3324 02:53:47.479 --> 02:53:49.040 but he made a couple of impactful pay per view 3325 02:53:49.040 --> 02:53:50.920 appearances that there were a lot of eyeballs on that 3326 02:53:50.959 --> 02:53:53.799 we just played for you. Yeah, and so it's remembered 3327 02:53:54.600 --> 02:53:57.079 rather vividly by an ECW fan base that was kind 3328 02:53:57.120 --> 02:53:59.840 of blown away when a guy of his statue stature 3329 02:54:00.040 --> 02:54:03.040 would park those those curtains here, sit down to shoot interview. 3330 02:54:03.440 --> 02:54:06.159 Looking back on ECW and that short run and what 3331 02:54:06.280 --> 02:54:08.920 it portended for the next move in his wrestling career. 3332 02:54:09.760 --> 02:54:11.920 Well, the thing was is this, you know, I'm looking 3333 02:54:12.040 --> 02:54:14.879 for a platform ore is to you know, preach off 3334 02:54:14.959 --> 02:54:18.719 of and that was a perfect platform to let the 3335 02:54:18.799 --> 02:54:22.600 world see me in a small scale. Uh, somewhat a 3336 02:54:22.959 --> 02:54:25.159 lot larger, but somewhat the same as d nw A. 3337 02:54:26.920 --> 02:54:29.799 That's and then too it just you know, I knew 3338 02:54:29.840 --> 02:54:32.000 Pauli for a long time. Actually I did my first 3339 02:54:32.040 --> 02:54:35.280 gimmick Lordian Mongers started with Pauli just for a huge 3340 02:54:35.280 --> 02:54:38.000 shots of Memphis before I went down to Continental with Bruno. 3341 02:54:38.600 --> 02:54:41.639 But uh, and then there's a hell a place to 3342 02:54:41.719 --> 02:54:45.159 go to. I still believe that, I, you know, was 3343 02:54:45.239 --> 02:54:46.959 there that that place that really had a chance to 3344 02:54:47.040 --> 02:54:49.120 do something. But once I got there a little bit 3345 02:54:49.159 --> 02:54:51.799 and saw how things were going there that I realized 3346 02:54:51.799 --> 02:54:55.920 it did never make it big because they were too intent, 3347 02:54:56.120 --> 02:54:59.799 too too badly wanted to have the company always larger 3348 02:54:59.840 --> 02:55:02.639 than the boys. You know, they really have fans channing 3349 02:55:02.760 --> 02:55:06.600 c W then say you know whoever you know, so 3350 02:55:07.280 --> 02:55:10.879 you know it's like and then it's just, you know, 3351 02:55:11.200 --> 02:55:13.440 I don't know. These guys were all nice to me. 3352 02:55:13.479 --> 02:55:15.879 I don't have word argument. Guy out of the place, right. 3353 02:55:16.719 --> 02:55:19.200 So but when you're pushing your top guys, it's taz 3354 02:55:19.399 --> 02:55:21.600 and he can't make in the WWS because he's too short. 3355 02:55:21.639 --> 02:55:23.760 That tells you that you know your hair cutting yourself. 3356 02:55:24.719 --> 02:55:26.600 You know, if he had a lot of office business, 3357 02:55:26.600 --> 02:55:27.520 wouldn't be doing. 3358 02:55:27.440 --> 02:55:31.559 Interested in how this contract if e c w like 3359 02:55:31.840 --> 02:55:33.760 you know, if it would have been a little bit bigger, 3360 02:55:33.799 --> 02:55:35.559 would it would have been in a place like you 3361 02:55:35.600 --> 02:55:36.440 would have liked that, like. 3362 02:55:36.440 --> 02:55:37.000 A longer run. 3363 02:55:37.760 --> 02:55:39.639 Well, let's say he was. It came really close to 3364 02:55:39.719 --> 02:55:42.920 that happened, you know, Paul was really and he got 3365 02:55:42.959 --> 02:55:44.719 it pretty close for the money, you know, to give 3366 02:55:44.760 --> 02:55:49.680 me the money I needed, but not enough though, and 3367 02:55:49.799 --> 02:55:54.040 so but no, I was no, I'm glad I didn't 3368 02:55:54.040 --> 02:55:57.399 stay there because he never guy's company, you know, any bigger. 3369 02:55:57.440 --> 02:56:00.440 So I would province anyway, which I don't I want 3370 02:56:00.440 --> 02:56:03.639 to do anyway. But it was just that particular time 3371 02:56:04.399 --> 02:56:07.319 you're out there lobbying yourself, and man Eric came across 3372 02:56:07.399 --> 02:56:09.479 with you know, dyl the lifetime, and I would have 3373 02:56:09.520 --> 02:56:10.479 turned that down for nothing. 3374 02:56:11.319 --> 02:56:15.680 Eric came across boss with the deal wow of a lifetime, 3375 02:56:15.959 --> 02:56:18.040 and it was to hear Sid say it in no 3376 02:56:18.159 --> 02:56:21.600 small part because he found himself back on television. We 3377 02:56:21.799 --> 02:56:25.200 know u Bischoff never shied away from recruiting his next 3378 02:56:25.280 --> 02:56:28.280 big act from ECW. It seemed to be a key 3379 02:56:28.319 --> 02:56:32.440 part of his playbook and Sid crossing his plane of consciousness. 3380 02:56:32.520 --> 02:56:36.360 But you know, there's there wasn't the greatest ending to 3381 02:56:36.479 --> 02:56:38.520 Sid in Atlanta the last time he was there. 3382 02:56:39.120 --> 02:56:39.520 That's true. 3383 02:56:39.520 --> 02:56:41.280 A lot of issues, a lot of problems, a lot 3384 02:56:41.319 --> 02:56:44.559 of considerations. But you know what if Sid is not 3385 02:56:44.680 --> 02:56:49.159 getting the contract he's he's liking from Paul Hayman and 3386 02:56:49.280 --> 02:56:51.559 he's not liking what he's seeing the waycw's framed up, 3387 02:56:51.559 --> 02:56:53.319 I'm sure he went after Taz in that interview for 3388 02:56:53.399 --> 02:56:55.959 one specific reason, because Taz was making more than he was. 3389 02:56:56.559 --> 02:56:59.879 Tat A signed Taz to a big I think to 3390 02:57:00.120 --> 02:57:01.760 fifty I'm not exactly sure, but they signed him to 3391 02:57:01.799 --> 02:57:03.559 a big money deal to try to keep him, and 3392 02:57:03.639 --> 02:57:05.200 of course by the end of ninety nine he's making 3393 02:57:05.239 --> 02:57:09.040 the jump. So I'm sure in Sid's mind that's that's 3394 02:57:09.079 --> 02:57:10.920 the dollar for you, right, he would want to stay, 3395 02:57:11.360 --> 02:57:12.680 and the fact that they gave it to somebody else 3396 02:57:12.680 --> 02:57:14.520 that couldn't make it in WWF is something he kept 3397 02:57:14.639 --> 02:57:17.280 very close attention to, kept a very close score on. 3398 02:57:18.040 --> 02:57:21.479 That's that's how sid rolled and so calling him out there. 3399 02:57:21.760 --> 02:57:24.200 But now he's back on the national stage to some degree, 3400 02:57:24.319 --> 02:57:26.000 and people are seeing what he has to bring to 3401 02:57:26.079 --> 02:57:28.639 the table. And Boss, I don't know. I mean, if 3402 02:57:28.680 --> 02:57:31.639 we know Eric Bischoff, i'd say it's time to to 3403 02:57:31.760 --> 02:57:34.920 gas up the jet engine plane. Don't when you say so, oh. 3404 02:57:35.120 --> 02:57:38.440 I think you know, listen, if he if he wants somebody, 3405 02:57:38.559 --> 02:57:41.000 it's time to exactly get on the lear jet and 3406 02:57:42.399 --> 02:57:45.479 travel and you know, fly over and and and really 3407 02:57:45.639 --> 02:57:51.200 make a deal with somebody. Because he's cool. Eric's cool. 3408 02:57:52.040 --> 02:57:55.120 But when I flew to he said for the very 3409 02:57:55.159 --> 02:57:58.200 first time to bring him in. When I was I 3410 02:57:58.319 --> 02:57:59.200 wasn't charge. 3411 02:58:00.719 --> 02:58:01.520 At the time, I had my. 3412 02:58:01.520 --> 02:58:04.479 Own plane, so I fooled myself to Yeah, oh god, 3413 02:58:04.559 --> 02:58:06.399 the little town he lived in, Mississippi. 3414 02:58:07.799 --> 02:58:09.239 And I didn't know what to expect. 3415 02:58:09.280 --> 02:58:12.840 I'd heard all the stories, all the dirt sheet bullshit 3416 02:58:12.959 --> 02:58:18.680 from guys like Dave Meltzer. Went into the meeting with 3417 02:58:20.000 --> 02:58:22.879 I was, I was cautious, I was reserved. I didn't 3418 02:58:22.879 --> 02:58:30.639 know what to expect. Man, humble home, humble guy, small 3419 02:58:30.760 --> 02:58:35.280 town that's what he loved in his family, obviously, and 3420 02:58:35.639 --> 02:58:39.680 I kind of admire someone, especially at a young age, 3421 02:58:39.799 --> 02:58:43.159 especially when people are dangling buckets and buckets and buckets 3422 02:58:43.239 --> 02:58:45.760 and money in front of you. When you're a small 3423 02:58:45.840 --> 02:58:51.200 town guy from Mississippi, who's you know, happy driver a 3424 02:58:51.280 --> 02:58:53.360 twenty year old car. As long as it works, that 3425 02:58:53.559 --> 02:58:56.559 was it. He wasn't. He didn't live above his means. 3426 02:58:58.040 --> 02:59:01.479 Money was I guess important to him. But it's clear 3427 02:59:01.559 --> 02:59:04.120 to me now, especially in retrospect, as you just pointed out, 3428 02:59:05.120 --> 02:59:08.280 his life, his family, his community was far more important 3429 02:59:08.440 --> 02:59:13.360 than perhaps another opportunity to wrestle in a WrestleMania main 3430 02:59:13.440 --> 02:59:16.799 event or WCW main event. He had his priorities straight. 3431 02:59:16.879 --> 02:59:20.079 They're pretty uncommon in this business, and I understand that. 3432 02:59:21.159 --> 02:59:23.040 You know, it's hard for people to wrap their head 3433 02:59:23.079 --> 02:59:29.559 around the idea that someone like sid would jeopardize hundreds 3434 02:59:29.600 --> 02:59:32.840 of thousands of dollars because being with his family and 3435 02:59:32.920 --> 02:59:34.559 being in this community and be a part of it 3436 02:59:34.920 --> 02:59:36.280 was actually more important to him. 3437 02:59:36.319 --> 02:59:37.520 I admire that. 3438 02:59:39.559 --> 02:59:41.200 Well, that sounds like he's found a way to get 3439 02:59:41.200 --> 02:59:41.840 over the stabbing. 3440 02:59:42.520 --> 02:59:44.559 Okay, yeah, I guess so, I guess it's fine to 3441 02:59:45.840 --> 02:59:50.680 I may mean was arn was retired by this point, right, he. 3442 02:59:50.760 --> 02:59:52.719 Was retired from the ring, but he was definitely working 3443 02:59:52.719 --> 02:59:53.920 at WCW every day. 3444 02:59:54.680 --> 02:59:56.440 But you know they were retired from the ring though, 3445 02:59:56.520 --> 02:59:57.319 so he's fine. 3446 02:59:57.200 --> 02:59:58.200 Easy to keep them apart. 3447 02:59:58.920 --> 02:59:59.159 Yeah. 3448 02:59:59.600 --> 03:00:02.879 Yeah, turns out to be something that addressed and something 3449 03:00:02.920 --> 03:00:08.879 that certainly wouldn't provide an in an insurmountable barrier. And 3450 03:00:09.000 --> 03:00:11.680 that's that would imagine remarkable when you think about what 3451 03:00:11.719 --> 03:00:13.799 actually happened in that hotel in England. But here we are, 3452 03:00:14.479 --> 03:00:17.040 and this is the wrestling business, and it's intense, the 3453 03:00:17.200 --> 03:00:19.879 battle between w w F and ww and even ECW 3454 03:00:20.079 --> 03:00:22.719 making a bid for someone like a Sid. It's time 3455 03:00:22.840 --> 03:00:26.120 for the w CW largess. It's time for Sid Boss, 3456 03:00:26.959 --> 03:00:30.079 as he tells Sean Mooney here to after all of 3457 03:00:30.200 --> 03:00:32.840 these kind of false starts in his mind, finally, yes, 3458 03:00:33.159 --> 03:00:34.559 finally cash in. 3459 03:00:35.040 --> 03:00:38.760 So Eric Bischoff lies a private plane. I pick him 3460 03:00:38.840 --> 03:00:41.399 up at the West Memphis Airport. We go to Cracker 3461 03:00:41.440 --> 03:00:43.399 Burrow and we sit there and make it deal with 3462 03:00:43.440 --> 03:00:48.000 Cracker Barrow. All right, you know, he says, he goes, 3463 03:00:48.079 --> 03:00:51.920 We're going to start you out at one point six, right, 3464 03:00:52.040 --> 03:00:56.520 that's exactly what I was making province for four years, right, Okay, 3465 03:00:57.200 --> 03:01:00.440 so I'm figuring he already knew that. I'm sitting there, 3466 03:01:00.440 --> 03:01:03.440 I'm looking at him. Okay, you know this evidently, right, 3467 03:01:04.360 --> 03:01:07.639 But I didn't say anything. Then he goes, but he said, 3468 03:01:07.680 --> 03:01:11.280 I mean one point six year first year said I, Oh, 3469 03:01:11.360 --> 03:01:14.440 my fucking god, you know, because I'm trying not to 3470 03:01:15.040 --> 03:01:17.639 show that how happy I am. So I said, well, 3471 03:01:17.680 --> 03:01:19.879 let me think about it, you know. So I take 3472 03:01:19.920 --> 03:01:22.200 you back to the airport, drop you mom. He actually 3473 03:01:22.239 --> 03:01:26.079 flew himself in. He's a power as well. So did 3474 03:01:26.159 --> 03:01:28.079 they call me the next day? We talked about on 3475 03:01:28.120 --> 03:01:28.440 the phone. 3476 03:01:28.479 --> 03:01:32.440 I say yeah, I say, yeah, sounds like a big 3477 03:01:32.639 --> 03:01:35.920 money contract there, boss, Yeah, I does. But of course 3478 03:01:35.959 --> 03:01:37.799 we'll never know what actually was in the contract. 3479 03:01:41.600 --> 03:01:42.280 I don't believe that. 3480 03:01:43.559 --> 03:01:47.159 Next time, on the TLF Tribute to Sid, we embark 3481 03:01:47.239 --> 03:01:49.719 upon his final run in the National Spotlight, the one 3482 03:01:49.760 --> 03:01:52.159 that would see the end of his career in some 3483 03:01:52.280 --> 03:01:55.760 of his prime earning years. And yes, friends, we dig 3484 03:01:55.879 --> 03:02:02.799 in to Sid's complete WCW contract. We'll see you next time. 3485 03:02:03.760 --> 03:02:05.719 The City Presiding Announcement as. 3486 03:02:05.639 --> 03:02:08.840 A t J DeSantis production. Its content is intended for 3487 03:02:09.000 --> 03:02:09.920 private use only