Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bear Hunting Magazine Hunt Cast with me
Speaker 1: Koby Morehead. We're gonna nerd out on bears hunting and
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Speaker 1: journey together. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the
Speaker 1: Hunt Cast. As you probably read in the title, we're
Speaker 1: talking about suppressors today. And suppressors are one of those
Speaker 1: things that I was never that interested in until a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So growing up, we would always
Speaker 1: wear those little foam ear plugs whenever we were sitting
Speaker 1: guns in at the range or really out beside the house.
Speaker 1: And then when we go out in the field, we
Speaker 1: just wouldn't wear any hearing protection. And most of our rifles, like,
Speaker 1: they weren't threaded, they didn't have a muzzle break or
Speaker 1: any type of muzzle device on them, and so most
Speaker 1: of that sound, I don't know, we just never really
Speaker 1: cared about it. And the younger that I was, the
Speaker 1: drilline would be pumping and I wouldn't even be able
Speaker 1: to remember the shot, like it never felt like it
Speaker 1: did anything to my hearing. Well, that all changed a
Speaker 1: few years ago. I was muzzleloader hunting with my dad
Speaker 1: and one of my dad's muzzloaders has a muzzle break
Speaker 1: on it, and this was one of those times. My
Speaker 1: dad had been patterning some bucks and there was a
Speaker 1: big buck that would come through that he was interested in,
Speaker 1: really nice ten point, and then there were a couple
Speaker 1: other really solid bucks coming in, you know, about forty
Speaker 1: five minutes an hour after him. So for the first
Speaker 1: time that I can remember as an adult, well, my
Speaker 1: dad and I sat on the ground together and just
Speaker 1: waited for these deer to do what we just knew
Speaker 1: they were going to do. His buck came in, he
Speaker 1: shot it. We went and drug it into the shade
Speaker 1: to make sure it didn't get too hot, and then
Speaker 1: we sat back down and it was my turn. Well
Speaker 1: probably about an hour, hour and fifteen minutes later, the
Speaker 1: other bucks came through, and I just remember seeing this
Speaker 1: rack coming over the hill and it was really exciting.
Speaker 1: I mean, the visual really has stayed with me these
Speaker 1: last few years. And so the buck comes out, I
Speaker 1: shoot the buck, and my dad he always likes to
Speaker 1: do a follow up shot when he can, he pulls
Speaker 1: up and shoots, and that muzzle break just directed all
Speaker 1: of the sound from his rifle barrel into my left
Speaker 1: ear and I couldn't hear anything.
Speaker 2: For a while.
Speaker 1: Well after a couple of hours it turned into a
Speaker 1: loud ringing on that left side and there for months,
Speaker 1: anytime that I heard base it would just be all
Speaker 1: staticky like it really scared me and it really wrecked
Speaker 1: my hearing there for a short time. Luckily, my ear
Speaker 1: heeled up, which you know, you never know if it
Speaker 1: will or not. And from then on, I don't go
Speaker 1: out in the field with a rifle without any type
Speaker 1: of hearing protection. Mostly I'm using those amplified muffs. Well
Speaker 1: that all changed with my first suppressor. So I got
Speaker 1: my first suppressor earlier this year from Brandon, who were
Speaker 1: talking to today from Diligent Defense, and it really has
Speaker 1: been a game changer. So today we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about the history of Diligent Defense. We're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about the benefits of suppressors and just what all they
Speaker 1: do for you, because it's not just about the sound anyways.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like this one. Stick around, maybe
Speaker 1: you'll learn something. And here's Brandon. So tell me a
Speaker 1: little bit about your background, how you got into suppressors,
Speaker 1: and then how that led to your company.
Speaker 3: So in nineteen eighty two, my dad started a welding
Speaker 3: and fabrication company, So I was born into that and
Speaker 3: I've just been around it my whole life. I went
Speaker 3: to school, ended up working for Siemens for a while,
Speaker 3: ended up back in the family business. I've always had
Speaker 3: a love for manufacturing, and since i've been twelve, well
Speaker 3: since I've been younger than that, but since i've been twelve,
Speaker 3: I've just been hunting and shooting and killing everything. So
Speaker 3: as time went on, started having kids, I just wanted
Speaker 3: to do more. So I wanted kind of a hobby.
Speaker 3: At the time, there was a lot of guys putting
Speaker 3: small CNCs in their garages at home, making fidget spinners
Speaker 3: and golf club putter heads and things like that, and
Speaker 3: boring pocket So I put a cheap Facebook marketplace machine
Speaker 3: in my garage and started tinkering my buddy that we
Speaker 3: had just we'd known each other when we were younger
Speaker 3: from BMX and racing. But he I was working with
Speaker 3: him through my family's business and he was a maintenance
Speaker 3: engineer for a company and just with Snapchat, he's seen
Speaker 3: what I was doing. He put a machine in his
Speaker 3: garage and just a lot of back and forth, and
Speaker 3: some years later we started in silencers. I mean, there
Speaker 3: was some more behind it than that, but we basically
Speaker 3: partnered up and that started in twenty eighteen, and I
Speaker 3: would say by twenty twenty, I think, is when we
Speaker 3: got our FFL and became legit. We bought some cheaper
Speaker 3: sound testing equipment and just put our heads down and
Speaker 3: bought all the competitor stuff that we really liked and
Speaker 3: tested against it and basically wanted to introduce something lighter,
Speaker 3: as quieter, quieter and more affordable, just because a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff's out there is really expensive. And yeah, the
Speaker 3: rest is history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's uh, that's awesome. Well when would you
Speaker 1: have used.
Speaker 2: Your first suppressor?
Speaker 3: Oh there was some stuff I had when I was
Speaker 3: a kid that may or may not be allowed to
Speaker 3: be out there.
Speaker 1: But non serialized stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there might have been a pop bottle with some
Speaker 3: you know, different things there. Yes, there may have been
Speaker 3: an oral sylpter. I can't I can't say for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I had a friend in the military, so I
Speaker 3: was probably nineteen at the time, was when I first
Speaker 3: started shooting, So it wasn't long after that that I
Speaker 3: had one. Yeah, but yeah, to have good ones. It's
Speaker 3: been the last five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's the difference between a good suppressor and
Speaker 1: uh less than preferred suppressor?
Speaker 3: Of the cans made today are pretty darn good weight.
Speaker 3: Wait's a big thing. When I say good, I mean sound.
Speaker 3: Sound suppression is pretty darn good on all of them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Weight and length are huge things to look at, especially
Speaker 3: in the hunting world. If you're shooting off a bench
Speaker 3: all the time, it is what it is. But if
Speaker 3: you're if you're climbing hills and going under tree limbs
Speaker 3: and things like that, short length and lightweight is something
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the main benefit in the short one would
Speaker 1: be weight, and especially the titanium ones that you guys
Speaker 1: put out, I mean, they're they're pretty durned light. Some
Speaker 1: of the questions that I had before for getting a
Speaker 1: suppressor was I was kind of intimidated by the process,
Speaker 1: all the paperwork, and then also like I wasn't even
Speaker 1: sure exactly what I needed or how to choose a suppressor.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna kind of do a dummies guide to
Speaker 1: suppressors here, and so let's kind of start out talking
Speaker 1: about why you would want a suppressor, Like all of
Speaker 1: the benefits of a suppressor.
Speaker 3: There's way more pros than cons. Number one is going
Speaker 3: to be hearing protection. You know, you hunt your whole life.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of shocks with out of your plugs,
Speaker 3: and i'd say the majority of people don't wear hearing
Speaker 3: protection while hunting. Recoil reduction, I would say it cuts
Speaker 3: your recoil in half. It actually changes the impulse completely.
Speaker 3: You know, shooting god on suppressed feels more like a punch.
Speaker 3: Shooting suppressed feels more like a slope push, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. There is still it just changes the
Speaker 3: impulse completely. Accuracy. I would say ninety nine percent of
Speaker 3: the time I shoot better groups, The gun shoots better,
Speaker 3: and I think it's just such a more pleasant experience.
Speaker 3: Your your trigger pull and everything's just there's no hesitation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like with a recoil, part of the
Speaker 1: anticipation I would have had before would be the sound impact,
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of light preparing, not just for
Speaker 1: the punch, but for but for the sound and as
Speaker 1: far as accuracy, I mean, I run the suppressor I
Speaker 1: have from you guys on mainly on my seven PRC,
Speaker 1: and I shot that thing out to one thousand and
Speaker 1: fifty yards and you know, hitting still a couple times
Speaker 1: in a row. Once we got it, you know, the
Speaker 1: wind call and everything figured out. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: been a tack driver with That's one of the things
Speaker 1: I was concerned with as well. But yeah, any more benefits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, follow up shots. I've definitely noticed. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: not Hollywood. You hear a gunshot when you break the
Speaker 3: sound berry. That's loud, but it seems like animals can't
Speaker 3: really piece together exactly where you're coming from. And then
Speaker 3: also to be able to hear the bullet impact the
Speaker 3: animal is pretty cool. You'll know right away if you
Speaker 3: hit it or not. You know what I mean. It
Speaker 3: smells sounds like you're smacking it with a boat or
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you sent me a video of a
Speaker 1: guy shooting subsnic. I think it was three hundred Blackout
Speaker 1: or something like that, shooting sub sonic through one of
Speaker 1: these and all you hear is the impact on that round.
Speaker 3: And yeah, even where coopers, you'll definitely hear I mean
Speaker 3: when you shoot a white tail or a bear or whatever,
Speaker 3: you definitely hear the thump. It's a good holo versus
Speaker 3: when you hit the ground, it sounds different. You can
Speaker 3: you can hear both. As far as cons go the process,
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's a con. It's just
Speaker 3: annoying the to go through and have the fingerprints and
Speaker 3: things like that. But once, once you do it once,
Speaker 3: it's it's no big deal. Yeah, added length and wait
Speaker 3: to the end of your gun, and depending the brand
Speaker 3: you go with or depending the model you go with, uh,
Speaker 3: you can make that less of an issue. And the
Speaker 3: only other thing that's coming to mind is on a
Speaker 3: gas operated gun like an AR or something, it's dirtier,
Speaker 3: it makes your gun dirty or quicker, and you get
Speaker 3: some blowback. But you can tune for that stuff on
Speaker 3: the gas platforms. But there's there's definitely way more pros
Speaker 3: than cons, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things I didn't know whenever I
Speaker 1: was starting out was what I would need. So I
Speaker 1: know that there's different materials that companies use for their
Speaker 1: suppressors and that each one of them is. It's not
Speaker 1: just a matter of one being better than the other,
Speaker 1: but them being purpose built. So the reason for say
Speaker 1: a titanium one versus a steel one, what would be
Speaker 1: the way to choose between those two?
Speaker 3: The steel cans are more durable and they're cheaper. That's
Speaker 3: definitely the pros to the steel cans. But for the
Speaker 3: hunting community, I mean, you can mag dump thirty rounds
Speaker 3: through a tight can without issue. So I always recommend
Speaker 3: people are short titanium can just because of the The
Speaker 3: length is a big deal. You don't think much about it.
Speaker 3: You're used to, you know, carrying your gun, but you
Speaker 3: put an extra six inches out there. You're hitting the
Speaker 3: tops of doorways getting in and out of your truck,
Speaker 3: getting it out of your buggy. It's nice to keep
Speaker 3: the stuff as short as possible, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we always recommend light titanium for the hunting community.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if.
Speaker 3: You're on a budget and the two hundred dollars means
Speaker 3: a big difference to you, just gotta be a little tougher.
Speaker 3: I guess the extra.
Speaker 1: Weight yeah, yeah, I mean a still, when could you
Speaker 1: run more rounds to them than a titanium, like if
Speaker 1: you were just about volume. From what I've had people
Speaker 1: tell me, they were saying, if you if you run
Speaker 1: a lot more rounds volume wise, that the steel cans
Speaker 1: handle all of that more intense heat better.
Speaker 2: But we don't be wrong.
Speaker 3: See we don't see the erosion and the silencers unless
Speaker 3: you're really doing the mag dumping. I mean, we have
Speaker 3: we have titanium silencers out there that are coming up
Speaker 3: on ten thousand rounds through them and they look like
Speaker 3: the day that we made them, just journey. But if
Speaker 3: you start doing full full auto or mag dumps, you'll
Speaker 3: start to see the actual erosion from the metal getting
Speaker 3: hot and the unburnt powder basically just starts. Yeah, gotcha,
Speaker 3: got it. But I would say stainless if you're going
Speaker 3: to do a lot of that, stainless might be the
Speaker 3: way to go.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And so the next thing that people probably need to
Speaker 1: know is how to pick a can based upon the
Speaker 1: rifles that they have, Because not every can is made
Speaker 1: for every caliber. How would people choose which one's right
Speaker 1: for them?
Speaker 3: So that's actually a question we get a lot, especially
Speaker 3: from first timers. You can run a big boar can
Speaker 3: with a small bullet. You're just going to give up
Speaker 3: a little bit if it's your very first suppressor and
Speaker 3: you have a three fifty legend nine millimeter this or that.
Speaker 3: We have a can that's good for nine milimeter bullet
Speaker 3: size down, but it'll handle a magnum cartridge. So you
Speaker 3: can run a three thirty eight Lapua, you can run
Speaker 3: your three fifty Legends, you can run your nine milimeter
Speaker 3: car car being subgun or something like that, all the
Speaker 3: way down to your five, five, six, twenty two two fifties.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of what you want to what you
Speaker 3: want to hone in on. But if you buy a
Speaker 3: specific thirty cow, you're going to give up one or
Speaker 3: two decibels. Or you can buy our specific six milimeter
Speaker 3: in down can, which is one or two decibels. But
Speaker 3: I recommend for first time buyers at least a thirty
Speaker 3: cow can. I wouldn't get our six can, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, but even our eight sixth down
Speaker 3: or nine mili down can is what I'd probably recommend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for first times.
Speaker 1: It sounds like I'm following the recommended plan. Makes me
Speaker 1: feel good about myself. Yes, yes, the threads are different too,
Speaker 1: as something we can tell talk about the the thread
Speaker 1: size on the different rifles, and so what would people
Speaker 1: need to do if they want to move a can
Speaker 1: from one rifle to another that has a different thread size,
Speaker 1: because I think some people think that they just have
Speaker 1: to have one can that just set for that particular thread.
Speaker 3: So there's still silencers you can buy today that aren't
Speaker 3: really friendly as far as swamp into this or that,
Speaker 3: but the majority of companies have gone to what they
Speaker 3: call hub threads. It's a one in three eights twenty
Speaker 3: four thread and there's fifty different adapters you can buy now.
Speaker 3: So basically you adapt down the engine three eights twenty four.
Speaker 3: Primarily you're going to see two threads out there. It's
Speaker 3: a five ags twenty four and a half twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Those are adapters that we either include with the can
Speaker 3: or we sell separately, just depending which model you get,
Speaker 3: and those are direct threat adapters. Then you can go
Speaker 3: to some different options where you have a muzzle device
Speaker 3: that you leave on the gun and then you leave
Speaker 3: them ount in the can. But I would say for
Speaker 3: beginners in first time or is just a direct thread
Speaker 3: is the shortest, cheapest, lightest, best bet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that sounds good. Was there anything else that
Speaker 1: you can think of that would make people be a
Speaker 1: little bit smarter than the average bear when it comes
Speaker 1: to suppressors or some of the things that you offer
Speaker 1: that would help them maybe get ahead of the game
Speaker 1: on just flexibility inside of what they could do with
Speaker 1: their can or anything like that.
Speaker 3: So the can I was telling you before is our
Speaker 3: DTF series. If it's your first time, that can's going
Speaker 3: to have a zero point four h six flashcap on
Speaker 3: the front. If you wanted to optimize it for a
Speaker 3: thirty cow or a twenty two cow, we make different
Speaker 3: end caps so that you could you could optimiz is
Speaker 3: the performance of your can by stepping down to that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's one thing that we offer for flexibility that a
Speaker 3: lot of companies don't. They might have a welded end cap.
Speaker 3: Are n caps you can swap out and change and
Speaker 3: things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then you guys, I think sell a
Speaker 1: tool that makes it easy to swap those out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a regular T sixty torquepit. But we
Speaker 3: do sell a T sixty ranch as well that you
Speaker 3: can swap those out with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just put it in the gunbag. And that's
Speaker 1: where it lives the range bag. Well, sweet, tell us
Speaker 1: about some of these hunts you've been on and recently
Speaker 1: you guys like to get up there and get with
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I've been a hunter since I was
Speaker 3: a kid, and I never traveled to hunt, but I
Speaker 3: take advantage of my situation, for sure. I'll start off
Speaker 3: with my bear. That was actually a Pennsylvania public land
Speaker 3: Allegheny National Forest. I was archery hunting, crossbow hunting. I
Speaker 3: was always a compound guy until I had kids, and
Speaker 3: a couple of years into having kids, I wasn't shooting
Speaker 3: enough and had a mishap and jumped over to the
Speaker 3: beaw rifle. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to get back into it, but no shame.
Speaker 3: Anyhow. It was in twenty nineteen. A buddy of mine
Speaker 3: was doing some scouting sent me a pin to a
Speaker 3: nice spot. I'd never been there. I walked in the
Speaker 3: dark just with Onyx and picked a tree and on
Speaker 3: my way up just had a bear come cruising through
Speaker 3: and put it together made it happen. I think I
Speaker 3: was like one hundred and forty pound, couldn't tell, but
Speaker 3: when I got up to it, it had Maine started
Speaker 3: on it, so I didn't get to do besides get
Speaker 3: the skull. Yeah, but that was my first and only bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I got to do a mule guy hunt down in
Speaker 3: Port Mansfield, Texas. Those are an Asian antelope that's an
Speaker 3: invasive species that they get up to like nine hundred
Speaker 3: pounds if we're not that big. Yeah, but we got
Speaker 3: to hunt those with thermals since some they're invasive.
Speaker 2: Nine games shoot them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can shoot them twenty four to seven anyway
Speaker 3: you care too.
Speaker 1: So well, and that's kind of the way to do
Speaker 1: it because they have excellent eyesight there and they're real flighty.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, very skittish animal. We were able to
Speaker 3: stalk up on a group of bulls and we shot
Speaker 3: three in one time. We just did a countdown three
Speaker 3: to two one. We dropped all three in one. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Pretty cool.
Speaker 1: My dad and I have done that with pigs before.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of fun to see multiple things drop.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a lot of fun. But most of
Speaker 3: my time these days is spent chasing coyotes, and it's
Speaker 3: just because working kids. It's it's something that.
Speaker 2: Allows you know, nighttime activities.
Speaker 3: Yep, nighttime activities, put the kids to bed, you're not
Speaker 3: at work, and I can sneak out and still hunt
Speaker 3: a little bit and not really mess up my schedule
Speaker 3: because when I start chasing white tails, I get addicted
Speaker 3: and everything goes to the wayside.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah, I get that. So I think
Speaker 1: the only other thing that we need to talk about
Speaker 1: is the process of getting your tax stamped and actually
Speaker 1: the whole process from purchase to having the suppressor in hand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So the very first thing you
Speaker 3: need to know is it's not legal in every state.
Speaker 3: It's legal in forty two states California, Illinois, New York,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, all those states that aren't friendly. You cannot
Speaker 3: own one unless you have an FFL, but luckily the
Speaker 3: other forty two states you're good to go. You need
Speaker 3: to find either a local gun shop that sells silencers
Speaker 3: and basically they can guide you. There's different methods once
Speaker 3: you start the process. Silencer shop is a big distributor,
Speaker 3: they have a kiosk and basically you can do your
Speaker 3: fingerprints there. A lot of smaller shops do not offer that,
Speaker 3: so you'll need to go to a ups store or
Speaker 3: to the police department or different methods like that, and
Speaker 3: they'll actually do your fingerprints for you. Then you bring
Speaker 3: them back to the gun shop and there's a two
Speaker 3: hundred dollars tax for every silencer that you buy, and
Speaker 3: then you got to buy the silencer. The weight times
Speaker 3: used to be like four hundred days. You're seeing them
Speaker 3: as quick as twenty four hours now, so they're flying off.
Speaker 3: You can buy one on a trust, which adds some
Speaker 3: waight time. The advantage of a trust is you can
Speaker 3: put family members on it things like that. But if
Speaker 3: you're trying to get it quick, buying as an individual's
Speaker 3: the way to go. Yeah, there is a company called
Speaker 3: Capital Wormery. They're out of Texas. They have forty two
Speaker 3: partnering FFLs. They stock our whole product line, and that's
Speaker 3: the easy button for people. You can go online, just
Speaker 3: like you're buying anything else. You can get the silencer
Speaker 3: through them. As soon as you pay for the silencer,
Speaker 3: they're going to shoot you an email within twenty four
Speaker 3: hours and hold your hand and walk you through the
Speaker 3: process and the silencer will ship to your door. So
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that don't have local gun
Speaker 3: shops that sell silencers, So that's a that's a really
Speaker 3: good option.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they have to have the elevated FFL to
Speaker 1: do that, if I'm right.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, they need a Class three or greater FFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I found the process to be really easy, but
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're going to do it at
Speaker 1: a local gun shop, make sure it's local. I mean
Speaker 1: it took me. I had to go out there three
Speaker 1: times throughout the process. So the first time that I
Speaker 1: went was to do the initial everything at the kiosk,
Speaker 1: and then the second time I had to go and
Speaker 1: I think they had to go into their system and
Speaker 1: like accept it. They needed my driver's license and stuff,
Speaker 1: if I remember right, to do that second step, and
Speaker 1: then that started my weight time and in less than
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, I was back up there and picking
Speaker 1: up my suppressor the next day. But that process doesn't start.
Speaker 1: They couldn't do anything until the suppressor had actually hit
Speaker 1: their store and they had it in hand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need the suppressor in hand and they need
Speaker 3: to have the actual serial number and everything right there
Speaker 3: with them. So yeah, yeah, it does add some time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we have I think around eight hundred direct dealers.
Speaker 3: We have a distribution network which has like four thousand
Speaker 3: under them. So A Arms is our distributor. So if
Speaker 3: any local gun shop doesn't have Diligent Defense, they can
Speaker 3: contact Alan Arms as well. That's that's another stream to
Speaker 3: get them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, sweet and uh, do you just want to
Speaker 1: do a quick run through of the the suppressors that
Speaker 1: you guys offer.
Speaker 3: Sure? Starting off at the rim Fire is our road Hunter.
Speaker 3: It's a user serviceable suppressor, which means it's got end
Speaker 3: caps and you can pull the baffles out and clean
Speaker 3: them and their laser etche to reassemble. That handles up
Speaker 3: to the five to seven handgun cartridge. It's seventeen HMR
Speaker 3: twenty two long rifle twenty two wins all of those.
Speaker 3: Up Next is the wolf Hunter that's six milimeter and down,
Speaker 3: so two forty three's six milimeter creed more things like that.
Speaker 3: It's optimized for the predator hunting crowd. Lightweight, it's just
Speaker 3: at nine ounces or rate under nine ounces, depending which
Speaker 3: accessories you have on it, the STI series or the
Speaker 3: Enticer series. I'm sorry is after that, we make that
Speaker 3: in a short and a long configuration in both stainlessly
Speaker 3: and titanium. That's probably our most popular A series of cans. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then we have the DTF series, which those are
Speaker 3: titanium only, and we have a long and a short
Speaker 3: version of those. Basically, I recommend to people if you're
Speaker 3: shooting a lot of subsonic you might want to consider
Speaker 3: the long can if you are primarily shooting supersonic bullets,
Speaker 3: which means you're going faster than the speed of soundt pecond.
Speaker 3: Short cans are my personal favorite because the crack of
Speaker 3: the bullet is actually louder than the difference between the
Speaker 3: two cans, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does after you you shoot one of those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's not like a it's I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt your ear, like you don't even like flinch at
Speaker 1: that sound.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They we have to watch saying hearing safe because
Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody knows what hearing safe is.
Speaker 3: But your hear haunt ring and it's comfortable. And if
Speaker 3: you're shooting a lot of rounds at the range, hundreds
Speaker 3: of rounds, it's still a good idea to have hearing
Speaker 3: protection on. But when you're hunting, as far as being
Speaker 3: comfortable disturbing neighbors, things like that it's it's great.
Speaker 1: It's cool, and then I think the I think the
Speaker 1: last thing to talk about is your warranty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's some things that happen sometimes. The biggest
Speaker 3: thing that we see is people's silencers come loose, and
Speaker 3: as soon as your silencer comes loose, you'll get a
Speaker 3: bit of a droop and the thread we have to
Speaker 3: do class two threads to basically allow our adapters to
Speaker 3: fit on everybody's guns, So as soon as your can
Speaker 3: comes loose, it can droop a little bit and that
Speaker 3: can cause a baffle strike. That's the biggest thing we see.
Speaker 3: Most of the time. It's just the end caps that
Speaker 3: we'll just say, hey, we'll just drop a new cap
Speaker 3: in the mail for you. But no, if anything happens,
Speaker 3: God forbid, you have a bad weld can comes apart.
Speaker 3: Which welded cans unfortunately have came apart, not just us,
Speaker 3: I'd say, every single brand, drop it in the mail.
Speaker 3: We'll have it back to you within a week.
Speaker 2: Normally sweet sweet cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had We've had guys that have their cans
Speaker 3: shot by their hunting partner somehow. That's that's probably my
Speaker 3: favorite one. It had a shotgun and blow right across
Speaker 3: the front of it, right across the side. Oh guys,
Speaker 3: we're hunting together, I guess, and predators and yeah shot
Speaker 3: the other of we've had cans get blown down range.
Speaker 3: That just people using different mints. They're like quick disconnects
Speaker 3: that just fail.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, cans come loose?
Speaker 3: Yeah, send them back, we'll fix them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sweet, Well anything else you think?
Speaker 3: No, I think we covered it all. To be honest
Speaker 3: with you, I do have a note here. You wanted
Speaker 3: to know how a silencer works. I could touch on
Speaker 3: that real quick.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 3: Basically, when a bullet exits the barrel of a gun
Speaker 3: without a silencer, do you have a tremendous amount of
Speaker 3: pressure behind it upwards of like seventy thousand PSI, you
Speaker 3: get rapid expanding gas behind that, and just that change,
Speaker 3: just the rapid expansion of gas is what the noise is.
Speaker 3: A silencer has a series of baffles in it that
Speaker 3: essentially cause turbulence inside of that area, and they slow
Speaker 3: that gas down. I can't tell you how much they
Speaker 3: slow it down. I would say it's a milliseconds. But
Speaker 3: just by slowing that gas down, the exiting of that gas,
Speaker 3: it cuts to sound in half or more. It's it's
Speaker 3: extremely quiet, and that's how they work. There's a third
Speaker 3: party testing company called Pu Science. He does a really
Speaker 3: cool method. We held the quietest silencer on a three
Speaker 3: Toho eight bolt rifle at Shooter's year up until a
Speaker 3: few months ago. And the cans that are beating us
Speaker 3: are north of twelve hundred dollars and they're much larger
Speaker 3: than ours. And to hear the difference of the two
Speaker 3: you need a thirty plus thousand dollars sound meter to
Speaker 3: see it. They sound to me the top five to
Speaker 3: six islencers sound very very comparable. Yeah, guys like to
Speaker 3: just say mind is quieter than yours. But you know,
Speaker 3: the top guys are all making good cans, and unless
Speaker 3: you got a very expensive sound meter, they're all good.
Speaker 1: Well, tell Ashley hi and he'll talk to you guys later.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks.
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