WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.519 Welcome to the Bear Hunting Magazine Hunt Cast with me 2 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.879 Koby Morehead. We're gonna nerd out on bears hunting and 3 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:21.239 the outdoors. We'll tell stories, talk biology, tactics, gear, and 4 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:23.879 the fight to protect the pursuits that we hold dear, 5 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.960 So grab your bino's, lace up your boots, load up 6 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:29.679 your barrels, and gather the helnds. Sweet venture on this 7 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:43.920 journey together. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the 8 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.200 Hunt Cast. As you probably read in the title, we're 9 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:50.640 talking about suppressors today. And suppressors are one of those 10 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:54.640 things that I was never that interested in until a 11 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.799 couple of years ago. So growing up, we would always 12 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.920 wear those little foam ear plugs whenever we were sitting 13 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.280 guns in at the range or really out beside the house. 14 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:06.239 And then when we go out in the field, we 15 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.400 just wouldn't wear any hearing protection. And most of our rifles, like, 16 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:14.519 they weren't threaded, they didn't have a muzzle break or 17 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.799 any type of muzzle device on them, and so most 18 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:20.280 of that sound, I don't know, we just never really 19 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.439 cared about it. And the younger that I was, the 20 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:26.359 drilline would be pumping and I wouldn't even be able 21 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.079 to remember the shot, like it never felt like it 22 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:31.879 did anything to my hearing. Well, that all changed a 23 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:34.760 few years ago. I was muzzleloader hunting with my dad 24 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:38.799 and one of my dad's muzzloaders has a muzzle break 25 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.280 on it, and this was one of those times. My 26 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:45.519 dad had been patterning some bucks and there was a 27 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:48.079 big buck that would come through that he was interested in, 28 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.000 really nice ten point, and then there were a couple 29 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:54.640 other really solid bucks coming in, you know, about forty 30 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.200 five minutes an hour after him. So for the first 31 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:00.319 time that I can remember as an adult, well, my 32 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.959 dad and I sat on the ground together and just 33 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.920 waited for these deer to do what we just knew 34 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.639 they were going to do. His buck came in, he 35 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.360 shot it. We went and drug it into the shade 36 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:14.639 to make sure it didn't get too hot, and then 37 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.280 we sat back down and it was my turn. Well 38 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:21.439 probably about an hour, hour and fifteen minutes later, the 39 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.719 other bucks came through, and I just remember seeing this 40 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.400 rack coming over the hill and it was really exciting. 41 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:31.960 I mean, the visual really has stayed with me these 42 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:35.879 last few years. And so the buck comes out, I 43 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.599 shoot the buck, and my dad he always likes to 44 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:42.719 do a follow up shot when he can, he pulls 45 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.759 up and shoots, and that muzzle break just directed all 46 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.400 of the sound from his rifle barrel into my left 47 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:54.599 ear and I couldn't hear anything. 48 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:55.240 For a while. 49 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:59.439 Well after a couple of hours it turned into a 50 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.080 loud ringing on that left side and there for months, 51 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.599 anytime that I heard base it would just be all 52 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.199 staticky like it really scared me and it really wrecked 53 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:16.000 my hearing there for a short time. Luckily, my ear 54 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:18.280 heeled up, which you know, you never know if it 55 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:22.199 will or not. And from then on, I don't go 56 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:26.280 out in the field with a rifle without any type 57 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:31.280 of hearing protection. Mostly I'm using those amplified muffs. Well 58 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:35.000 that all changed with my first suppressor. So I got 59 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.120 my first suppressor earlier this year from Brandon, who were 60 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:41.080 talking to today from Diligent Defense, and it really has 61 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.840 been a game changer. So today we're gonna be talking 62 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:48.639 about the history of Diligent Defense. We're gonna be talking 63 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:52.280 about the benefits of suppressors and just what all they 64 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:56.199 do for you, because it's not just about the sound anyways. 65 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.240 I think you're gonna like this one. Stick around, maybe 66 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:06.039 you'll learn something. And here's Brandon. So tell me a 67 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.719 little bit about your background, how you got into suppressors, 68 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.439 and then how that led to your company. 69 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.240 So in nineteen eighty two, my dad started a welding 70 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.040 and fabrication company, So I was born into that and 71 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.759 I've just been around it my whole life. I went 72 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.279 to school, ended up working for Siemens for a while, 73 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.639 ended up back in the family business. I've always had 74 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:36.519 a love for manufacturing, and since i've been twelve, well 75 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.439 since I've been younger than that, but since i've been twelve, 76 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:43.560 I've just been hunting and shooting and killing everything. So 77 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:50.000 as time went on, started having kids, I just wanted 78 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.959 to do more. So I wanted kind of a hobby. 79 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:56.920 At the time, there was a lot of guys putting 80 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:02.040 small CNCs in their garages at home, making fidget spinners 81 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:05.319 and golf club putter heads and things like that, and 82 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:12.480 boring pocket So I put a cheap Facebook marketplace machine 83 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:17.600 in my garage and started tinkering my buddy that we 84 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.639 had just we'd known each other when we were younger 85 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.519 from BMX and racing. But he I was working with 86 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:27.279 him through my family's business and he was a maintenance 87 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.800 engineer for a company and just with Snapchat, he's seen 88 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:32.519 what I was doing. He put a machine in his 89 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.399 garage and just a lot of back and forth, and 90 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.759 some years later we started in silencers. I mean, there 91 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.639 was some more behind it than that, but we basically 92 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:49.759 partnered up and that started in twenty eighteen, and I 93 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:52.560 would say by twenty twenty, I think, is when we 94 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:57.959 got our FFL and became legit. We bought some cheaper 95 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:02.160 sound testing equipment and just put our heads down and 96 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:08.439 bought all the competitor stuff that we really liked and 97 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:13.240 tested against it and basically wanted to introduce something lighter, 98 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.560 as quieter, quieter and more affordable, just because a lot 99 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.120 of stuff's out there is really expensive. And yeah, the 100 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:21.959 rest is history. 101 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:26.839 Yeah, oh that's uh, that's awesome. Well when would you 102 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:27.720 have used. 103 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:28.399 Your first suppressor? 104 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.160 Oh there was some stuff I had when I was 105 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.839 a kid that may or may not be allowed to 106 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:36.759 be out there. 107 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.600 But non serialized stuff. 108 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.519 Yeah, there might have been a pop bottle with some 109 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:47.279 you know, different things there. Yes, there may have been 110 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.600 an oral sylpter. I can't I can't say for sure. Yeah, 111 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.720 but I had a friend in the military, so I 112 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.959 was probably nineteen at the time, was when I first 113 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:02.120 started shooting, So it wasn't long after that that I 114 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:07.439 had one. Yeah, but yeah, to have good ones. It's 115 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:08.680 been the last five years. 116 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:13.240 Yeah, So what's the difference between a good suppressor and 117 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.560 uh less than preferred suppressor? 118 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:22.519 Of the cans made today are pretty darn good weight. 119 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:26.519 Wait's a big thing. When I say good, I mean sound. 120 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:31.279 Sound suppression is pretty darn good on all of them. Yeah, 121 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:36.040 Weight and length are huge things to look at, especially 122 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.000 in the hunting world. If you're shooting off a bench 123 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:40.160 all the time, it is what it is. But if 124 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.000 you're if you're climbing hills and going under tree limbs 125 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.800 and things like that, short length and lightweight is something 126 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:47.240 you want. 127 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.959 Yeah, So the main benefit in the short one would 128 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.680 be weight, and especially the titanium ones that you guys 129 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.240 put out, I mean, they're they're pretty durned light. Some 130 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.839 of the questions that I had before for getting a 131 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:06.120 suppressor was I was kind of intimidated by the process, 132 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.439 all the paperwork, and then also like I wasn't even 133 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:15.000 sure exactly what I needed or how to choose a suppressor. 134 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:21.000 So we're gonna kind of do a dummies guide to 135 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:26.240 suppressors here, and so let's kind of start out talking 136 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:29.759 about why you would want a suppressor, Like all of 137 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.960 the benefits of a suppressor. 138 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:36.440 There's way more pros than cons. Number one is going 139 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:41.039 to be hearing protection. You know, you hunt your whole life. 140 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.200 That's a lot of shocks with out of your plugs, 141 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.320 and i'd say the majority of people don't wear hearing 142 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:49.039 protection while hunting. Recoil reduction, I would say it cuts 143 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:52.919 your recoil in half. It actually changes the impulse completely. 144 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:56.279 You know, shooting god on suppressed feels more like a punch. 145 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:00.519 Shooting suppressed feels more like a slope push, you know 146 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.840 what I mean. There is still it just changes the 147 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:08.639 impulse completely. Accuracy. I would say ninety nine percent of 148 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.559 the time I shoot better groups, The gun shoots better, 149 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.679 and I think it's just such a more pleasant experience. 150 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:19.320 Your your trigger pull and everything's just there's no hesitation. 151 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.120 Yeah. I feel like with a recoil, part of the 152 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.960 anticipation I would have had before would be the sound impact, 153 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.320 you know, that kind of light preparing, not just for 154 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.279 the punch, but for but for the sound and as 155 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.759 far as accuracy, I mean, I run the suppressor I 156 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.320 have from you guys on mainly on my seven PRC, 157 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:46.240 and I shot that thing out to one thousand and 158 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.039 fifty yards and you know, hitting still a couple times 159 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.559 in a row. Once we got it, you know, the 160 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:55.559 wind call and everything figured out. I mean, it's just 161 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.559 been a tack driver with That's one of the things 162 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:04.799 I was concerned with as well. But yeah, any more benefits. 163 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.240 Yeah, follow up shots. I've definitely noticed. I mean, it's 164 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:12.679 not Hollywood. You hear a gunshot when you break the 165 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:18.559 sound berry. That's loud, but it seems like animals can't 166 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:24.000 really piece together exactly where you're coming from. And then 167 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.519 also to be able to hear the bullet impact the 168 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.200 animal is pretty cool. You'll know right away if you 169 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:32.639 hit it or not. You know what I mean. It 170 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.600 smells sounds like you're smacking it with a boat or 171 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:36.159 or something. 172 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:36.399 You know. 173 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:39.240 Yeah, I mean, you sent me a video of a 174 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:42.759 guy shooting subsnic. I think it was three hundred Blackout 175 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.679 or something like that, shooting sub sonic through one of 176 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:51.759 these and all you hear is the impact on that round. 177 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.399 And yeah, even where coopers, you'll definitely hear I mean 178 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.720 when you shoot a white tail or a bear or whatever, 179 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:01.799 you definitely hear the thump. It's a good holo versus 180 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.159 when you hit the ground, it sounds different. You can 181 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:11.399 you can hear both. As far as cons go the process, 182 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.080 I don't want to say it's a con. It's just 183 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.399 annoying the to go through and have the fingerprints and 184 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.639 things like that. But once, once you do it once, 185 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:23.559 it's it's no big deal. Yeah, added length and wait 186 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.679 to the end of your gun, and depending the brand 187 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.320 you go with or depending the model you go with, uh, 188 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:34.440 you can make that less of an issue. And the 189 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:36.600 only other thing that's coming to mind is on a 190 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:41.440 gas operated gun like an AR or something, it's dirtier, 191 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.240 it makes your gun dirty or quicker, and you get 192 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.600 some blowback. But you can tune for that stuff on 193 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:52.799 the gas platforms. But there's there's definitely way more pros 194 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.120 than cons, that's for sure. 195 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.919 Yeah. One of the things I didn't know whenever I 196 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.679 was starting out was what I would need. So I 197 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:03.840 know that there's different materials that companies use for their 198 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.480 suppressors and that each one of them is. It's not 199 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.879 just a matter of one being better than the other, 200 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:16.399 but them being purpose built. So the reason for say 201 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:19.519 a titanium one versus a steel one, what would be 202 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.240 the way to choose between those two? 203 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.279 The steel cans are more durable and they're cheaper. That's 204 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.919 definitely the pros to the steel cans. But for the 205 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.639 hunting community, I mean, you can mag dump thirty rounds 206 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:40.840 through a tight can without issue. So I always recommend 207 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:46.279 people are short titanium can just because of the The 208 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.279 length is a big deal. You don't think much about it. 209 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.759 You're used to, you know, carrying your gun, but you 210 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.799 put an extra six inches out there. You're hitting the 211 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.440 tops of doorways getting in and out of your truck, 212 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.720 getting it out of your buggy. It's nice to keep 213 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:04.679 the stuff as short as possible, that's for sure. Yeah, 214 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:08.080 we always recommend light titanium for the hunting community. 215 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:09.360 But yeah, if. 216 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.759 You're on a budget and the two hundred dollars means 217 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.279 a big difference to you, just gotta be a little tougher. 218 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.480 I guess the extra. 219 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.039 Weight yeah, yeah, I mean a still, when could you 220 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.480 run more rounds to them than a titanium, like if 221 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.440 you were just about volume. From what I've had people 222 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.080 tell me, they were saying, if you if you run 223 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.600 a lot more rounds volume wise, that the steel cans 224 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.720 handle all of that more intense heat better. 225 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:38.960 But we don't be wrong. 226 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:42.679 See we don't see the erosion and the silencers unless 227 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.480 you're really doing the mag dumping. I mean, we have 228 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.600 we have titanium silencers out there that are coming up 229 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.200 on ten thousand rounds through them and they look like 230 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:56.600 the day that we made them, just journey. But if 231 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:01.440 you start doing full full auto or mag dumps, you'll 232 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.159 start to see the actual erosion from the metal getting 233 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:10.639 hot and the unburnt powder basically just starts. Yeah, gotcha, 234 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:14.120 got it. But I would say stainless if you're going 235 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:15.919 to do a lot of that, stainless might be the 236 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:16.440 way to go. 237 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:17.480 Okay. 238 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.320 And so the next thing that people probably need to 239 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.600 know is how to pick a can based upon the 240 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:30.360 rifles that they have, Because not every can is made 241 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.840 for every caliber. How would people choose which one's right 242 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:34.559 for them? 243 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.480 So that's actually a question we get a lot, especially 244 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.240 from first timers. You can run a big boar can 245 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.080 with a small bullet. You're just going to give up 246 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.879 a little bit if it's your very first suppressor and 247 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.679 you have a three fifty legend nine millimeter this or that. 248 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.960 We have a can that's good for nine milimeter bullet 249 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:02.759 size down, but it'll handle a magnum cartridge. So you 250 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:06.039 can run a three thirty eight Lapua, you can run 251 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:09.279 your three fifty Legends, you can run your nine milimeter 252 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:15.480 car car being subgun or something like that, all the 253 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.480 way down to your five, five, six, twenty two two fifties. 254 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:21.240 So it's kind of what you want to what you 255 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:23.480 want to hone in on. But if you buy a 256 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.879 specific thirty cow, you're going to give up one or 257 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.679 two decibels. Or you can buy our specific six milimeter 258 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.759 in down can, which is one or two decibels. But 259 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:39.240 I recommend for first time buyers at least a thirty 260 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.440 cow can. I wouldn't get our six can, you know 261 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:45.519 what I mean? Yeah, but even our eight sixth down 262 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.720 or nine mili down can is what I'd probably recommend. 263 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.200 Yeah, I mean for first times. 264 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:53.960 It sounds like I'm following the recommended plan. Makes me 265 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.720 feel good about myself. Yes, yes, the threads are different too, 266 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.080 as something we can tell talk about the the thread 267 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:07.559 size on the different rifles, and so what would people 268 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.000 need to do if they want to move a can 269 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:13.759 from one rifle to another that has a different thread size, 270 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:16.080 because I think some people think that they just have 271 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:21.919 to have one can that just set for that particular thread. 272 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:25.720 So there's still silencers you can buy today that aren't 273 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:29.879 really friendly as far as swamp into this or that, 274 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.840 but the majority of companies have gone to what they 275 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.440 call hub threads. It's a one in three eights twenty 276 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:39.879 four thread and there's fifty different adapters you can buy now. 277 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.080 So basically you adapt down the engine three eights twenty four. 278 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.159 Primarily you're going to see two threads out there. It's 279 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.120 a five ags twenty four and a half twenty eight. 280 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.240 Those are adapters that we either include with the can 281 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.080 or we sell separately, just depending which model you get, 282 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:01.639 and those are direct threat adapters. Then you can go 283 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:06.079 to some different options where you have a muzzle device 284 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.920 that you leave on the gun and then you leave 285 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.319 them ount in the can. But I would say for 286 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:16.519 beginners in first time or is just a direct thread 287 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:19.920 is the shortest, cheapest, lightest, best bet. 288 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.960 Yeah, Yeah, that sounds good. Was there anything else that 289 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.240 you can think of that would make people be a 290 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.359 little bit smarter than the average bear when it comes 291 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:32.640 to suppressors or some of the things that you offer 292 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.519 that would help them maybe get ahead of the game 293 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.960 on just flexibility inside of what they could do with 294 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.119 their can or anything like that. 295 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.440 So the can I was telling you before is our 296 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.240 DTF series. If it's your first time, that can's going 297 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:51.079 to have a zero point four h six flashcap on 298 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:54.559 the front. If you wanted to optimize it for a 299 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.880 thirty cow or a twenty two cow, we make different 300 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.279 end caps so that you could you could optimiz is 301 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:05.759 the performance of your can by stepping down to that. Yeah, 302 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:08.880 that's one thing that we offer for flexibility that a 303 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.559 lot of companies don't. They might have a welded end cap. 304 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.039 Are n caps you can swap out and change and 305 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:14.759 things like that. 306 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:17.960 Yeah, yeah, and then you guys, I think sell a 307 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.000 tool that makes it easy to swap those out. 308 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.680 Yeah, it's just a regular T sixty torquepit. But we 309 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.079 do sell a T sixty ranch as well that you 310 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:28.160 can swap those out with. 311 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:30.079 Yeah, I just put it in the gunbag. And that's 312 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:34.279 where it lives the range bag. Well, sweet, tell us 313 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:37.799 about some of these hunts you've been on and recently 314 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:40.640 you guys like to get up there and get with 315 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:41.039 it too. 316 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.839 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I've been a hunter since I was 317 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.079 a kid, and I never traveled to hunt, but I 318 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:52.039 take advantage of my situation, for sure. I'll start off 319 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:57.839 with my bear. That was actually a Pennsylvania public land 320 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:03.519 Allegheny National Forest. I was archery hunting, crossbow hunting. I 321 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.119 was always a compound guy until I had kids, and 322 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:08.759 a couple of years into having kids, I wasn't shooting 323 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.759 enough and had a mishap and jumped over to the 324 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:13.440 beaw rifle. Unfortunately. 325 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:17.680 Yeah, I'd like to get back into it, but no shame. 326 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:23.799 Anyhow. It was in twenty nineteen. A buddy of mine 327 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:27.200 was doing some scouting sent me a pin to a 328 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:30.160 nice spot. I'd never been there. I walked in the 329 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.119 dark just with Onyx and picked a tree and on 330 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:35.640 my way up just had a bear come cruising through 331 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.559 and put it together made it happen. I think I 332 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.599 was like one hundred and forty pound, couldn't tell, but 333 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:43.960 when I got up to it, it had Maine started 334 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:46.720 on it, so I didn't get to do besides get 335 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:51.240 the skull. Yeah, but that was my first and only bear. 336 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:53.000 Yeah. 337 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:57.039 I got to do a mule guy hunt down in 338 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:02.200 Port Mansfield, Texas. Those are an Asian antelope that's an 339 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:05.799 invasive species that they get up to like nine hundred 340 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.920 pounds if we're not that big. Yeah, but we got 341 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.119 to hunt those with thermals since some they're invasive. 342 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:13.279 Nine games shoot them. 343 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:16.839 Yeah, you can shoot them twenty four to seven anyway 344 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:17.599 you care too. 345 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:19.279 So well, and that's kind of the way to do 346 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:23.319 it because they have excellent eyesight there and they're real flighty. 347 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:28.160 Yes, yeah, yeah, very skittish animal. We were able to 348 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:31.640 stalk up on a group of bulls and we shot 349 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:33.759 three in one time. We just did a countdown three 350 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.880 to two one. We dropped all three in one. Yeah. 351 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:37.559 Pretty cool. 352 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.000 My dad and I have done that with pigs before. 353 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:42.440 It's it's kind of fun to see multiple things drop. 354 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.640 Yes, yeah, it's a lot of fun. But most of 355 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:50.400 my time these days is spent chasing coyotes, and it's 356 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:53.160 just because working kids. It's it's something that. 357 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.440 Allows you know, nighttime activities. 358 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.759 Yep, nighttime activities, put the kids to bed, you're not 359 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:01.839 at work, and I can sneak out and still hunt 360 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.079 a little bit and not really mess up my schedule 361 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:07.359 because when I start chasing white tails, I get addicted 362 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.519 and everything goes to the wayside. 363 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:13.640 You know, Yeah, yeah, I get that. So I think 364 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.680 the only other thing that we need to talk about 365 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:21.400 is the process of getting your tax stamped and actually 366 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:26.000 the whole process from purchase to having the suppressor in hand. 367 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:29.920 Yeah, yeah, for sure. So the very first thing you 368 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.319 need to know is it's not legal in every state. 369 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:38.440 It's legal in forty two states California, Illinois, New York, 370 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:43.640 New Jersey, all those states that aren't friendly. You cannot 371 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:47.880 own one unless you have an FFL, but luckily the 372 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:52.559 other forty two states you're good to go. You need 373 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.119 to find either a local gun shop that sells silencers 374 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:02.640 and basically they can guide you. There's different methods once 375 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:08.039 you start the process. Silencer shop is a big distributor, 376 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:11.440 they have a kiosk and basically you can do your 377 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:14.720 fingerprints there. A lot of smaller shops do not offer that, 378 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:20.119 so you'll need to go to a ups store or 379 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.240 to the police department or different methods like that, and 380 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:25.759 they'll actually do your fingerprints for you. Then you bring 381 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.279 them back to the gun shop and there's a two 382 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:33.400 hundred dollars tax for every silencer that you buy, and 383 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.960 then you got to buy the silencer. The weight times 384 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:40.359 used to be like four hundred days. You're seeing them 385 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:44.440 as quick as twenty four hours now, so they're flying off. 386 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:47.799 You can buy one on a trust, which adds some 387 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.960 waight time. The advantage of a trust is you can 388 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.240 put family members on it things like that. But if 389 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:58.759 you're trying to get it quick, buying as an individual's 390 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:03.599 the way to go. Yeah, there is a company called 391 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.680 Capital Wormery. They're out of Texas. They have forty two 392 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:12.000 partnering FFLs. They stock our whole product line, and that's 393 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.920 the easy button for people. You can go online, just 394 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.160 like you're buying anything else. You can get the silencer 395 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.000 through them. As soon as you pay for the silencer, 396 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.119 they're going to shoot you an email within twenty four 397 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.559 hours and hold your hand and walk you through the 398 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.599 process and the silencer will ship to your door. So 399 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:33.079 there's a lot of people that don't have local gun 400 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:37.559 shops that sell silencers, So that's a that's a really 401 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:38.160