Speaker 1: Maybe the most important thing about the movie Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1: The final reckoning has been the press tour leading up
Speaker 1: to this movie that has been all about Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: is love not only for movie going but movie theater popcorn.
Speaker 2: Oh I was not aware of this. Well that's good
Speaker 2: to hear because him and I share that passion.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you miss it. It's been all
Speaker 1: over social media him talking to movie theater employees just
Speaker 1: shoveling down popcorn. Or there was a screening where he
Speaker 1: walked by someone he was holding a microphone about to
Speaker 1: go on stage, and he looked over at someone in
Speaker 1: the audience and he goes, I already finish your popcorn.
Speaker 1: And you might think that he's calling the man out
Speaker 1: for eating an entire large popcorn in fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: I think he was impressed.
Speaker 2: No, totally agree. As a man who constantly is pushing
Speaker 2: the human body to its limits and testing it, I
Speaker 2: think finishing a large popcorn before the movie is quite impressive.
Speaker 2: I never finished my popcorn. Usually get a medium because
Speaker 2: I'm realistic these days, and I still don't finish the popcorn.
Speaker 2: But you kind of get the medium knowing that you
Speaker 2: really just want the small. But at least in the medium,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get like seventy five percent good popcorn, and
Speaker 2: that final twenty five percent is not really edible anyways.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just how popcorn bags work. I also
Speaker 2: think goo it's an absolute fucking travesty that it is
Speaker 2: not the industry standard to layer popcorn butter. When you
Speaker 2: are served popcorn. You can ask sounds butter, sure, But
Speaker 2: if I'm putting butter on my popcorn, I can't get
Speaker 2: all the butter down into the nooks and crannies of
Speaker 2: it's a full bag. You know, we've seen the whole
Speaker 2: straw method and whatnot. I just think if you're serving
Speaker 2: it freshly to me and I ask for butter, fucking
Speaker 2: layer the goddamn butter.
Speaker 1: Mac always says, I'll have some butter with a side
Speaker 1: of popcorn.
Speaker 2: I mean, people like movie theater popcorn because they like
Speaker 2: the movie theater butter that goes hand at hand.
Speaker 1: I have given up popcorn. It's difficult going to the movies,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what if I just get some now?
Speaker 1: But I know that if I start eating it again,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it every single time. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a large. I'm gonna refill that large. I would if
Speaker 1: they had a trought, I'd ask for a trought.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm like fifty to fifty these days. When I
Speaker 2: when I get popcorn depends what time of day I'm
Speaker 2: seeing the movie. Usually, if we go to the screenings,
Speaker 2: I don't get popcorn because I don't know why that's
Speaker 2: the time I should get Popcorncuse I'm not spending money
Speaker 2: on the ticket.
Speaker 1: You're making money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's the whole thing. I want to be
Speaker 2: in the green now.
Speaker 1: When I went to see this movie last night, I
Speaker 1: had just eaten a chicken Caesar wrap in my car
Speaker 1: and I needed something to wash it down. I needed
Speaker 1: a beverage, if you will. Plus it's a seven hour movie,
Speaker 1: so I knew i'd be thirsty. So I went to
Speaker 1: the concession stand and I got myself a large drink,
Speaker 1: being like, okay, it's a long movie. It's only two
Speaker 1: dollars more than the small ROI spend money, make money.
Speaker 1: I turn around to fill it up, thinking that I
Speaker 1: could get some nice diet doctor Pepper, because I saw
Speaker 1: doctor Pepper on there. No the only diet option on
Speaker 1: there was diet pepsi and diet pepsi is trash?
Speaker 2: Was it one of those machines with the bubbles when
Speaker 2: you can select? Yeah? So, I mean, I guess you're
Speaker 2: taking a chance to because you don't know what they're,
Speaker 2: what's in stock and what's not. I can't I don't
Speaker 2: want bubble gut while I'm watching a movie. I can't
Speaker 2: do soda during a movie. I'm a strictly water during
Speaker 2: a movie. Guy one, good three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just three. King of Queen mill Street Entertainment.
Speaker 2: I'm Goo and I'm.
Speaker 1: Mac, and we are the Mac and Goo program. Mac
Speaker 1: has yet to ask me why I am wearing sunglasses.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's I think it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 1: Oh why what do you think?
Speaker 2: You're wearing a top gun Maverick shirt as well, in
Speaker 2: honor of our Lord and savior Thomas Cruz.
Speaker 1: Well that's what the movie is. Brace yourself ready for this?
Speaker 2: Oh what happened to you? Sty nice?
Speaker 1: Do you find the sunglasses more distracting or my zombie
Speaker 1: eye more distracting.
Speaker 2: Now that you poisoned it out. I get if you
Speaker 2: didn't point it out. I want to just stop, maybe
Speaker 2: camera quality or something. But now I can.
Speaker 1: It's half the size of my other eye.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice it last night.
Speaker 1: I started to feel it on Wednesday. Yesterday I woke
Speaker 1: up and it was swollen shut. I did enough hot
Speaker 1: water compressions on it to really ease it up by
Speaker 1: last night, and this morning it's even worse.
Speaker 2: Good have you honest? I don't really know what a
Speaker 2: sty is.
Speaker 1: It's not conjuncti vitis. I haven't had any discharge, no pus, no, no,
Speaker 1: it just hurts a lot.
Speaker 2: Do all eye things rhyme with eye? Is that why
Speaker 2: it's called.
Speaker 1: That's why it's called a sty. So the only reason
Speaker 1: why I think these sunglasses are distracting, and this is
Speaker 1: great podcasting, great visual addition to the podcast. I also,
Speaker 1: I hate looking at myself right now with the stye,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put these back on. All right, Sure,
Speaker 1: I have this spaghett in my eye from the ring light.
Speaker 1: There is no winning in this situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you just gonna fight through. That's
Speaker 2: what you know. Our Lonsavid Tom Cruise really appreciate you
Speaker 2: for fighting through.
Speaker 1: What if I lean my head back like Paul Pierce
Speaker 1: when he's on Fox Sports one when he.
Speaker 2: Talks always looking at the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Uh where his inspiration comes from?
Speaker 2: What you say? We are discussing the latest in the
Speaker 2: Mission Impossible series, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning.
Speaker 1: You didn't say greatest.
Speaker 2: I purposefully did not say greatest.
Speaker 1: You know what it is, the latest and eightest.
Speaker 2: I'm also curious if it really is a final part
Speaker 2: of this series. I sort of hope so at this
Speaker 2: point eight Movies is playing with all the.
Speaker 1: Pomp and circumstance and the and the storytelling that was
Speaker 1: in this one, I think we have to move.
Speaker 2: On once again, the eighth entry into the Mission Impossible series. Really,
Speaker 2: this is the second part of a two parter Dead
Speaker 2: Reckoning that's supposed to be Dead Reckoning Part two. They
Speaker 2: changed it to five.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that is true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sort of distance itself from Dead Reckoning, which
Speaker 2: didn't make a ton of money because it got Barbenheimern
Speaker 2: and so it pushed off from there. GOO reportedly this
Speaker 2: movie had a four hundred million dollar punchit. That is
Speaker 2: a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if you do bring this franchise back
Speaker 1: and hopefully they take some time off of it and
Speaker 1: maybe you replace the pieces around it. Even if maybe
Speaker 1: you keep Cruise in there as someone that isn't you know,
Speaker 1: that isn't God. Maybe you cut the budget in half
Speaker 1: and you go a little smaller scale back to basics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally agree. However, this movie is projected
Speaker 2: to make between one hundred and twenty five and one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million domestically this weekend. Are you sure?
Speaker 1: I was looking at the box Office Mojo and it
Speaker 1: was saying seventy to eighty.
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be well below it's expected at least
Speaker 2: from like two or three days.
Speaker 1: Is this is about to get stitched?
Speaker 2: Which will be well, now you're throwing that number at
Speaker 2: means so Dead Reckoning only made one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: two domestically, massive disappointment in that respect. It was still
Speaker 2: reviewed really well. People just didn't see it as much
Speaker 2: as they thought because of Barbie and Opperenheimer. This movie
Speaker 2: was projected to make between one twenty five and more fifty.
Speaker 2: Maybe Stitch is cutting.
Speaker 1: Into that different audience, but still, but it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to make a lot of money to get that
Speaker 2: budget and advertising budget back right. We're talking five hundred
Speaker 2: six hundred million. This is going to have to get
Speaker 2: to I think the last movie got to it might
Speaker 2: have got to five hundred.
Speaker 1: But I think it was a round five, either a
Speaker 1: tick below or a tick b of.
Speaker 2: But that last movie's budget was like two.
Speaker 1: No, I think it was also close to four. It
Speaker 1: was a lot.
Speaker 2: No, it was under three. I looked it up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was under three.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: But point being this is this was the second part
Speaker 2: to that. So there's sort of one and the same.
Speaker 2: We are at a point now basically starting with Mission
Speaker 2: Possible three. More so with four, they started carrying over
Speaker 2: more characters and more plot points. There's been somewhat of
Speaker 2: an overarching theme through these last four or.
Speaker 1: Five, right, And you can tell from the first half
Speaker 1: an hour of this one because even before they show
Speaker 1: the title card, there is roughly a half an hour
Speaker 1: of I won't even call it story, it's just things
Speaker 1: that are happening. They start hitting the ground running, which
Speaker 1: makes sense in a Tom Cruise movie. The man loves
Speaker 1: to run. How fast do you think he runs twenty
Speaker 1: eight miles an hour? Tom take the car. No, but
Speaker 1: this movie starts with like almost no storytelling. It's just
Speaker 1: it picks up two months after what happened in the
Speaker 1: last movie, and it's just right into a scene.
Speaker 2: So part of the problem is by renaming the movie
Speaker 2: and separating themselves from Dead Recording Part one and this
Speaker 2: no longer being Deadrecorting Part two being the Final Reckoning,
Speaker 2: they had to catch some people up, you know, because
Speaker 2: this is a continuation of that story. There was a
Speaker 2: cliff at the end of that movie to be continued,
Speaker 2: and so part of this movie's problem at the beginning
Speaker 2: was catching people up on the story from the last movie.
Speaker 1: Also, I think an issue with this movie is that
Speaker 1: I don't know if they felt like people hadn't seen
Speaker 1: the prior movies, so they had to do constant flashbacks
Speaker 1: and reminders of who people were throughout the entire movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also thematically, a lot of what's going on
Speaker 2: in decision making and whatnot is like talking about Ethan
Speaker 2: Hunt's pass and everything.
Speaker 1: This making or flipping a coin.
Speaker 2: So I didn't really penalize that for that, especially knowing
Speaker 2: this should be the final Tom Cruise entry, Like I'm
Speaker 2: okay with that sort of shit, Like eight movies in
Speaker 2: like what we can't pretend we're not gonna like be
Speaker 2: you know, look back on things with rose colored glasses.
Speaker 2: So I understand why the movie did that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil anything early, but all the
Speaker 1: people that he had wronged in the past saying thank
Speaker 1: you for doing that. You actually fixed my life by
Speaker 1: doing that. That every single one of those.
Speaker 2: This is a PG thirteen, which maybe is I like
Speaker 2: these movies is are. I don't know if it would
Speaker 2: change things, but it is interesting that they keep on PG.
Speaker 1: I think it changed one thing. There was one scene
Speaker 1: where I think they shot something that they would have
Speaker 1: kept if it was are but because it was captured. Yes,
Speaker 1: they kept it on Haley Atwell's face as opposed to
Speaker 1: showing Tom cruise with a hammer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I would have been intrigued as to what
Speaker 2: that scene would have looked like.
Speaker 1: Because you don't like her reaction to it. Oh May,
Speaker 1: she's doing British reactions.
Speaker 2: To melon uh go. PG thirteen Action adventure, thriller, subgenres, action, epic, adventure,
Speaker 2: epic and spy. We have sort of gotten away from
Speaker 2: the spy espionage stuff these lasts.
Speaker 1: That's my issue with it. That's my biggest.
Speaker 2: It's not as spy and espionage e as the prior ones,
Speaker 2: the prior to three to these ones, I mean, the
Speaker 2: essence of the series is the espionage and spy stuff,
Speaker 2: and these last two we've certainly got away from that
Speaker 2: because because it's become an Ethan Hunt story and now
Speaker 2: it's things centering around Ethan Hunt, which they were anyways,
Speaker 2: but there was still sweet spy and espionage stuff leading
Speaker 2: up until these last two.
Speaker 1: I think it's a very, very similar to what they
Speaker 1: did with John McClain and Diehard, where in the first
Speaker 1: movie he's just a small time cop and he's you know,
Speaker 1: using his his cunning and his wit to take down
Speaker 1: these terrorists, but then by the end of that series,
Speaker 1: he is a superhero. By the end of this series,
Speaker 1: by the end of these eight movies, Tom Cruise, Ethan
Speaker 1: Hunt is God.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair, that's apt. But also, to be fair,
Speaker 2: these movies in the series is way better than the time.
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that they are better. I'm saying the
Speaker 1: way that the character has evolved through these stories, he
Speaker 1: is now God and people speak to him like he
Speaker 1: is God.
Speaker 2: This movie has a run time of one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty nine minutes encroaches upawn three hours long. To its credit,
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like that. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 2: feel like it was getting the three hours, but I
Speaker 2: didn't check my phone once. I thought, once we were
Speaker 2: in it and it was going, it was a little
Speaker 2: clucky get the start, like you said, but once where
Speaker 2: you're in it, I thought it was oddly a breeze.
Speaker 1: I thought the entire thing was really long. There's two
Speaker 1: great action pieces in here. One of the action pieces
Speaker 1: is spliced with another action piece, but I really enjoyed those.
Speaker 1: Every piece of the build up to it I thought
Speaker 1: was entirely clunky and overly serious.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll talk about people's lives here, goo.
Speaker 1: I'm aware, but in the past they at least had
Speaker 1: some like fun banter going back and forth, or there
Speaker 1: was at least like a wink and a nod or
Speaker 1: a little cheeky if you will.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the end. We'll talking about the end of
Speaker 2: the world, talk about armageddon.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm not a huge fan of like world
Speaker 1: ending things and us relying on one man to save us.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing he could do in the eighth movie. No,
Speaker 2: speaking of all eight movies on Roddy T's this says
Speaker 2: eighty percent from the critics, ninety three percent from the audience.
Speaker 2: That is the lowest critics score since Mission Impossible three. However,
Speaker 2: still a little bit above that, and we have a
Speaker 2: really interesting thing going on here with these movies. On Metacritic,
Speaker 2: a sixty eight, again the lowest critics score since Mission
Speaker 2: Impossible three. So the first Mission Impossible received a fifty nine,
Speaker 2: the second of fifty nine. This is critics scores here.
Speaker 2: The first Mission Impossible became like instantly underrated. Critics apparently
Speaker 2: just didn't get it. They didn't care for it. That
Speaker 2: movie's really good and sort of kicked off a lot
Speaker 2: of copycats in this genre. The second one is not great.
Speaker 2: I understand the fifty nine. It's not rewatchable either. The
Speaker 2: third one a sixty six. I do feel like this
Speaker 2: movie is as much in the same realm as that one.
Speaker 2: That movie has the great Philip Seymour Hoffman awesome performance.
Speaker 2: It also introduces Michelle Monahan as his wife Julia and
Speaker 2: Simon Pegg as Benji, so it starts picking up on
Speaker 2: reoccurring characters and themes. I think it all gets kicked
Speaker 2: up A notching Ghost Protocol that was twenty eleven. That
Speaker 2: gets a seventy three on Metacritic, Brad Bird directing, and
Speaker 2: to me, this is where they start, Like I Ghost
Speaker 2: Protocol and Roague Nation, back to back movies, the fourth
Speaker 2: and fifth movies. I think those are the two best
Speaker 2: movies in the series. Those capture. What I think you're
Speaker 2: talking about is that tongue in cheek. You know, we're
Speaker 2: having a little fun.
Speaker 1: They're also doing movies.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we're still doing the spy espionage shit. A
Speaker 2: lot of people say Fallout twenty eighteen is the best
Speaker 2: mission impossible movie. It might be like the most action
Speaker 2: ful and like technically sound as far as movie making goes.
Speaker 2: It's not nearly my favorite, though, I'm okay putting it
Speaker 2: in the tier with Ghost Protocol and Road Nation. And
Speaker 2: then we have Dead Reckoning from two years ago that
Speaker 2: got an eighty one. Fall It got an eighty seven,
Speaker 2: by the way Metacritics, so critics fucking love that. Critics.
Speaker 2: I think we're late to this series and they were
Speaker 2: trying to make up for it, as we've seen so
Speaker 2: many times in the past. So to me, four, five,
Speaker 2: and six are like head and shoulders above the rest,
Speaker 2: Ghost Protocol, Rogue Nation of Fallout, Dead Reckoning. Honestly, might
Speaker 2: be in a tier in itself. It's better than this movie,
Speaker 2: but it's not nearly as good as the three I
Speaker 2: just mentioned. And then clearly Mission Impossible two is at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the barrel. So you might have the
Speaker 2: original Mission Impossible three and this movie all on at
Speaker 2: one tier, then Dead Reckoning and then Ghost Protocol, Rogue
Speaker 2: Nation of Fallout in its own tier. It's an odd
Speaker 2: tier system.
Speaker 1: Not to tip my hot dog hand, I would have
Speaker 1: this as one of the lower Mission Impossibles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely in the bottom four, that's
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: If we were tiering, it would be on the bottom
Speaker 1: tier for me.
Speaker 2: But in the Mission Impossible two tier, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't care for this.
Speaker 2: Once again, Brad Bird directed Ghost Protocol, which started a
Speaker 2: lot of what these last four movies have picked up on,
Speaker 2: or three movies I shop for. I've getting confused. Now.
Speaker 2: McQuary has been directing this series since Rogue Nation twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: and it's really where he's made his mark and really
Speaker 2: where he's become, you know, not quite an A list director,
Speaker 2: but I think he's up there and talking about some
Speaker 2: of the greats of today. Jeremy Renners' character is also
Speaker 2: introducing ghost Protocol, and it seemed like they were planning
Speaker 2: to hand off the series to his character. He was
Speaker 2: basically an Ethan hunt Light and then Tom Cruise is Agels,
Speaker 2: so they kept Tom Cruise around good. This movie is
Speaker 2: written by Eric Jendronsen and Christopher mcquery. The only thing
Speaker 2: you would know Jendronsen from Jendersen is the previous Mission Impossible,
Speaker 2: the one from two years ago. McQuary goes all the
Speaker 2: way back to the usual suspects. He's a writer there,
Speaker 2: The Way of the Gun, Valkyrie, Jack Reacher, Edge of Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: There's a theme amongst these movies, and the theme is
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, the Mummy. He wrote Top Gun, Maverick, and
Speaker 2: he wrote all of these Mission Impossible movies since Rogue Nation.
Speaker 2: So he started as a writer, became a director, but
Speaker 2: his only directed Tom Cruise things outside of the Way
Speaker 2: of the Gun. So it's a very very interesting situation.
Speaker 2: KU upcoming writing credit for Christopher McQuary. I thought this
Speaker 2: was interesting to note. He is the writer on the
Speaker 2: untitled Tom Cruise SpaceX project being directed by Doug Lyman.
Speaker 2: Synopsis for this scu Tom Cruise and Doug Lymon travel
Speaker 2: far beyond Earth to film the first ever Hollywood motion
Speaker 2: picture in outer space. I'm gonna need to see what
Speaker 2: that's all about. That is ambitious, to say the least, and.
Speaker 1: I'm sure most of the dialogue is other characters stroking
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise's ego.
Speaker 2: Of course, this whole film series is based on the
Speaker 2: television series by Bruce Geller that was from nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: six to nineteen seventy three, again directed by mcquery. He's
Speaker 2: also got two movies upcoming that he's directing, Broadswording Gauntlet.
Speaker 2: One of them scar stars Tom Cruise and Scar Joe,
Speaker 2: so that might be pretty good. I forget what the
Speaker 2: other one is about. Synopsis GW of this movie, Ethan
Speaker 2: Hunt and the IMF team race against time to find
Speaker 2: the Entity, a rogue artificial intelligence that can destroy mankind.
Speaker 2: This is the same story, same theme that we picked
Speaker 2: up on in the prior movie, and I think that's
Speaker 2: what makes these last two movies a step below for
Speaker 2: sure the previous three. Is we're dealing with this like
Speaker 2: AI cyber threat, which just nearly isn't as interesting as
Speaker 2: like a human in human issues. So that's definitely a
Speaker 2: knock up against him. Good. This movie stars Tom Cruise,
Speaker 2: of course, as Ethan Hunt Haley atwell as Grace she
Speaker 2: debuted in the last one. Ving Raims is Luther Stickele,
Speaker 2: who I think is the only other actor that's been
Speaker 2: in all eight of these. Simon peg has Benji done.
Speaker 2: Asi Morales is Gabriel. We saw him in the last one.
Speaker 2: PM Clementiefe as Paris. We saw her in the last one.
Speaker 2: I thought she was much better in this one.
Speaker 1: Oh she did all of her own stunts too, I
Speaker 1: think did she?
Speaker 2: She was actually really great in this. Henry Zernie is Kittrich.
Speaker 2: We've seen him in a few of these. Angela Bassett
Speaker 2: as President eric A Sloan, We've seen her in a few.
Speaker 2: Shay Wigham as Briggs, we've seen him. We see Holt
Speaker 2: mclanny as Serling. He's like one of the generals or
Speaker 2: President's right hand man. Jane mctears Walters same, Nick Offerman
Speaker 2: General Sidney Hannah Wattingham as Admiral Neely. She plays with
Speaker 2: American accents. Yeah, you like that pretty good.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm always I think the Brits are better at
Speaker 1: doing the American accents. Then we all at dealing the
Speaker 1: British wounds.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. It does seem, however, like they do end
Speaker 2: up doing more like California Valley girl type accents, but
Speaker 2: they're better than we are.
Speaker 1: See almost like she spoke out of the bottom of
Speaker 1: her jaw to like do her lines. Can you do
Speaker 1: a British accent? Where do you go? Do you go
Speaker 1: to Liverpool? Pep Cherryow, Dan Crappetts, good stuff.
Speaker 2: I just yell, I just stack it up at octab Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh Tremble Tillman as Captain bloodsoe hell yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll get to him in a minute. Greg Tarzan Davis
Speaker 2: incredible name is Degas de Goas.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that.
Speaker 2: He's he Brigs, his right hand man, eventually is on
Speaker 2: Ethan's team, and then Goo reprising his role for the
Speaker 2: first movie. I love this, Ralph Saxony.
Speaker 1: I hated it. I hated it so much. I hated
Speaker 1: it so much. It was great because it was another
Speaker 1: one of thank you.
Speaker 2: I loved it. Shut up, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious right now. I didn't know that you
Speaker 1: could name someone Tarzan.
Speaker 2: Kind of you'll be going to the courthouse change raftis middle.
Speaker 1: Name Amazing Mac. Yeah, before we get into any spoilers,
Speaker 1: before we get into the gauntlet, I do want to
Speaker 1: say that, like, there are several points in this movie
Speaker 1: that reminded me of the audio commentary of Armageddon where
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck asks why would you teach drillers how to
Speaker 1: be astronauts as opposed to astronauts how to drill? Because
Speaker 1: you have Tom Cruise doing these odd jobs where he's
Speaker 1: working with experts in the field, I feel like they
Speaker 1: could have gotten it done way way quicker and safer.
Speaker 1: But Cruise is like, Nah, Well, the whole.
Speaker 2: Point is Ethan Hunt is expendable. The other people are.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 1: To be fair, everyone's expendable.
Speaker 2: Well, in this scenario that the world is ending, I
Speaker 2: suppose so, But the premise is that he's expendable. That's
Speaker 2: why he's doing all this shit and the other people aren't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are dealing with world class divers that
Speaker 1: are right there, like the best of the best, the
Speaker 1: greatest semen around. They know how to and they were
Speaker 1: teaching him how to do it. Why not just have
Speaker 1: them do it?
Speaker 2: Because Tom Cruise, Ethan Hunt is expendable, and that mission
Speaker 2: was impossible.
Speaker 1: Movie. Oh when they said when they said the title
Speaker 1: of the movie in this I almost clapped.
Speaker 2: I was so close said it like three times. I
Speaker 2: know they needed to say things. Here's my biggest crape
Speaker 2: of these last few movies. Not saying things are impossible enough.
Speaker 2: They should be like this mission is impossible.
Speaker 1: But they also they repeated this same things in these
Speaker 1: movies over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dialogue wasn't great, admittedly, go I also felt
Speaker 2: like and it was trending this way. Anyways, these last
Speaker 2: couple in the first five, let's say first, Yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: say the first five they are more streamlined, less video
Speaker 2: gamey where you have to do this just to do this,
Speaker 2: And there was some of that, but it was more
Speaker 2: spy espionage and less Indiana Jones going to a temple
Speaker 2: and getting this thing so we can do another thing.
Speaker 2: These last couple really felt like Indiana Jones movies to
Speaker 2: a certain degree, especially this one, like he's got to
Speaker 2: go do this task so that he can go do
Speaker 2: this other task, and it's like it just felt less spy.
Speaker 2: Like I love these movies because of that spy espionage shit,
Speaker 2: the same way I love the Boorn movies like that
Speaker 2: aspect of it is what to me separates it from
Speaker 2: other action movies recently, these last three really, including Fallout.
Speaker 2: As much as great as that movie is, they're not
Speaker 2: the same as the original as it was originally intended.
Speaker 2: And that's because, you know, you can only tell so
Speaker 2: many stories with the same characters. So I don't love that,
Speaker 2: And that's why I think these last two or three
Speaker 2: have been a step below Ghost Protocol and Roade Nation.
Speaker 2: For me, it's just not as the stories aren't as fun.
Speaker 1: They're not fun.
Speaker 2: They're just not as fun when they're like when Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise is running hiding from a government, when like the
Speaker 2: government's actively working for him. It's just not as fun,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And everyone the entire time is like, you, son of
Speaker 1: a bitch, you're gonna backstab us, but there's no one
Speaker 1: else in the world that can do it, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to put our trust in your hands.
Speaker 2: At least the last movie had a little bit more
Speaker 2: of him running from government agency. This one there was
Speaker 2: like really none of that.
Speaker 1: Also, I'm I might take all my time and just
Speaker 1: accept my YouTube copyright strikes, and I want to mix
Speaker 1: him in the ocean with Donkey Kong's aquatic ambiance.
Speaker 2: Oh cake by the ocean.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's aquatic, Tom Beyonce, I know.
Speaker 2: But that's what I thought. We'll get to that in
Speaker 2: the spoilers.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness for so long once again, all the
Speaker 1: divers telling him you need to do this or you're
Speaker 1: gonna die. Tom's like, yep, I'm fine, to be fair.
Speaker 2: The fifteen minutes of the submarine were fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even so like, let's go to the
Speaker 1: gauntlet here. Yeah, I wouldn't even call that scene fun.
Speaker 1: I love that scene, but like heart rate fun factor
Speaker 1: wise none, there is zero fun in this.
Speaker 2: It was skilly.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say scaley well, it was.
Speaker 2: It was like heart racing because thinking about being in
Speaker 2: a submarine that is on the ocean floor five hundred
Speaker 2: feet five hundred feet below an ice capped surface, it's
Speaker 2: downright fucking terrifying. That's skilly. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: But then like him, like having to traverse through the
Speaker 2: submarine that's twisting and turning, that was awesome, edge of
Speaker 2: your seat type of stuff. The problem is that was
Speaker 2: the only real part the movie where you felt like
Speaker 2: you were on the edge of the seat, at least
Speaker 2: for me. Fun factor wise, this movie has fun, but
Speaker 2: it's not like it's a victim of its own franchise,
Speaker 2: right this movie franchise has been very fun in the past,
Speaker 2: and this movie's not very fun.
Speaker 1: Every scene where Tom Cruise meets a new person, the
Speaker 1: person's like, you want me to trust you, and then
Speaker 1: within three minutes they're like, ah, this guy.
Speaker 2: Well, like in the past movies too, people constantly ripping
Speaker 2: masks off, you know, we only get that once in
Speaker 2: this movie. Like again, less of that spy Espa.
Speaker 1: I get my best laughs when people pull masks off.
Speaker 2: It's the best. Yeah, it's the best. Like and it's
Speaker 2: just it's part of this It's what makes this series,
Speaker 2: this series, And like this movie really isn't that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, satisfactor for it being the final I'm not satisfied.
Speaker 2: I was half satisfied. I could have been more satisfied.
Speaker 2: I could have been more annoyed. I was half half satisfied.
Speaker 1: Borometer, I was really bored until we got into the submarine.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really bored, to be honest. I thought it
Speaker 2: did enough to keep my interest going.
Speaker 1: Awkwater World if not for the submarine. So like, this
Speaker 1: looks really good. Obviously, these movies all look amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I have more fun with awkward worlds. What
Speaker 1: the fuck is water World?
Speaker 2: This does become a bit water World dish when we
Speaker 2: get up to the polarized cap stare sadly sadly go
Speaker 2: And I hate to admit this water World is gonna
Speaker 2: be more rewatchable than this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god, you're not gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have five hours to watch a movie right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 2: Let me pick the fifth best mission impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like water World's better? What do you want?
Speaker 2: This might be the knife one? Did I count? Run?
Speaker 1: Count again?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: This is the Okay, there we go. We would have
Speaker 1: had to title the pole episode over again Halloween. Will
Speaker 1: this wait over time? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think people are really gonna dissect this movie and
Speaker 1: kind of go into just how cheesy and over the
Speaker 1: top it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it should be the last movie
Speaker 2: in the series, and I think people are gonna be
Speaker 2: a little more forgiving in that rap respect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are always for giving up the last movies.
Speaker 2: You're right, well, in this series, I think so. I
Speaker 2: mean it's a send off sort of thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I also think we forget this. This franchise has been
Speaker 2: corny and cheesey in the past, so I don't think
Speaker 2: peoplere gonna.
Speaker 1: Be they did a better job with it. Though they
Speaker 1: did a better job.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I just don't think people are gonna
Speaker 2: be like upset with this movie.
Speaker 1: Plemonade. For those of you who don't know, Jesse Plemmons
Speaker 1: is the best when he shows up, and he sometimes
Speaker 1: does it for a very short amount of time. Who
Speaker 1: did that in this movie? And we might have a bias,
Speaker 1: but it's Tramill Tilman.
Speaker 2: Tramill Tillman as Captain bloodsoe you would know him from
Speaker 2: Severance was so good in this his like his giddiness,
Speaker 2: but first of all, you weren't sure if he was
Speaker 2: gonna be pro or anti Ethie Hunt Ethan Hunt. And
Speaker 2: then when he like he's giddy to go after the Russians,
Speaker 2: like he just he kicked it up a notch and
Speaker 2: that's when the movie started kicking up a notch as well.
Speaker 2: Like I thought, he was awesome and he brought an
Speaker 2: energy to the screen that let's say, hey, I wanting
Speaker 2: him didn't even though she was good Like Tramon, Tillman
Speaker 2: just brought an energy to the screen that a lot
Speaker 2: of other people didn't have.
Speaker 1: Max Credit Union, Who do you give in credit to?
Speaker 2: This is a tough one for me. Like, obviously Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise gets credit for doing all the crazy stunts and shit.
Speaker 2: I almost want to give it to Haley Atwell for
Speaker 2: like fitting in seamlessly these last couple of movies. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to to Ving Raims for being
Speaker 2: a guy being there from day one. He's been an
Speaker 2: integral part of every story, the tech guy. Let's let's
Speaker 2: give it to Ving Rams here go.
Speaker 1: That's like Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman's podcast Dudes on Dudes.
Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, this guy as a dude.
Speaker 1: I want to give him credit for me and a dude,
Speaker 1: Vin Raims, What kind of a dude is that guy?
Speaker 2: He is a dude.
Speaker 1: Adelman's a very good podcaster, by the way, so I'm
Speaker 1: not taking any kind of a shot at him.
Speaker 2: Great personality.
Speaker 1: Gronk is not.
Speaker 2: Did you see his Sunday conversation with Caleb Presley? I
Speaker 2: did a plus stuff.
Speaker 1: It's always A plus stuff. Yeah, he might have the
Speaker 1: best batting average around. Yeah pants ten city Excite, bike
Speaker 1: Mania and the best way to outdo that amazing train
Speaker 1: scene from the last movie. That train scene was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was let's go underwater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get a similar scene in that, you know,
Speaker 2: this submarine is getting ready to follow the even further
Speaker 2: to further depths. Now it's just Ethan hunt and in
Speaker 2: a like high tech scuba suit traversing through half submerged
Speaker 2: stuff in the submarine. And so you get vibes of
Speaker 2: that train scene when they're climbing through the train cars.
Speaker 2: I thought it was super intense for like ten minutes there.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the shit out of that scene.
Speaker 1: And it is skilly for those of you tarrety to
Speaker 1: the Mac and Goo party. We write everything on a
Speaker 1: forty hot dog rating system. Mac, I will agree with you.
Speaker 1: I thought the submarine scene and him on the plane
Speaker 1: was worth your money. I think that those were two
Speaker 1: awesome action scenes. Send off wise, not super satisfying. It's
Speaker 1: the end of the world as we know it, and
Speaker 1: I feel fine, this was overly serious. There's zero levity
Speaker 1: to it. I had very little fun while watching this
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying, like, make this a comedy.
Speaker 2: Bobby should have had popcorn. This might be on you.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to have popcorn. That's a self and
Speaker 1: post rule against myself. But like, I'm not saying to
Speaker 1: make it a comedy. But like the other movies are fun,
Speaker 1: they're heisty. This hit the ground running, and I don't
Speaker 1: mean that in a good way. It just from the
Speaker 1: get go is at like forty miles an hour. There
Speaker 1: is no ramp up to anything. It is just from
Speaker 1: the get go, from the last movie.
Speaker 2: It's a part too. It's a continuation of a movie
Speaker 2: that had a cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: I don't think they did a good job with that.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: There's too many flashbacks, too many callbacks. The dialogue has
Speaker 1: so much jargon and inside stuff in it that it
Speaker 1: ends up almost sounding dumb. And I'm also curious how
Speaker 1: many of the lines like percentage wise are complements of
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise and Tom Cruise's character about how great he is,
Speaker 1: about how awesome he is.
Speaker 2: He saved the world seven times.
Speaker 1: All the people in the past that he has wronged, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was for a reason, and now they are better
Speaker 1: off for it, so thank you, Tom, thank you for
Speaker 1: doing that for me.
Speaker 2: They are part of the intelligence community, so eventually they
Speaker 2: do learn that he does stuff for a reason.
Speaker 1: But he is treated as if he is God this
Speaker 1: entire movie. And there is one piece of dial of
Speaker 1: like it is, Hey, you're the only person that should
Speaker 1: be in charge of this, you should be in charge
Speaker 1: of all of this. No, it's the people's work. It's like,
Speaker 1: calm down, let's all fucking calm down for a second.
Speaker 1: Twenty five hot ducks. Really I didn't like this. Wow,
Speaker 1: but I'll admit it looks really nice.
Speaker 2: This movie was more or less what I was expecting.
Speaker 2: I was hoping it would be a little better, but
Speaker 2: considering in my mind the last two have trended down
Speaker 2: a little bit, I was figuring this would be a
Speaker 2: little wired.
Speaker 1: Expecte shit.
Speaker 2: Once again, the fifteen or so minutes in the Submarine
Speaker 2: was fucking awesome, super intense. Also, the fight scene prior
Speaker 2: to that, where he's fighting the other marine and then
Speaker 2: the fight's happening on Saint Matthew Island, I thought that
Speaker 2: was really cool too. So there was a good like
Speaker 2: thirty minutes in here that were fucking bals. Of the
Speaker 2: Wall great. Then, of course, you know in the third
Speaker 2: act of the plane stuff that was also great. This
Speaker 2: just didn't quite have the juice that I'm looking for
Speaker 2: in a Mission Impossible movie, though, like I fully understand,
Speaker 2: we're completing a story that we started in the last movie.
Speaker 2: But part of the reason why I didn't love that
Speaker 2: last movie is because it didn't feel necessarily like a
Speaker 2: Mission Impossible movie or spy thriller movie. Felt more like
Speaker 2: an Indiana Jones movie, which is fine, people like those movies.
Speaker 2: I just have a preference. I did give the last
Speaker 2: movie thirty five hot Dogs, which I may maybe reck
Speaker 2: conn a thirty four ish that ended up being the
Speaker 2: number twelve movie of twenty twenty three. I don't think
Speaker 2: this movie is in that same conversation. I think it's
Speaker 2: a step below even that. That movie was just beat
Speaker 2: for beat better than this movie. The pacing was better
Speaker 2: in that movie. But I did like this movie, and
Speaker 2: it's because I love all the characters that were doing
Speaker 2: member barriers about good doesn't like that shit. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: it knowing it's the finale and it's like ark good
Speaker 2: by to these characters. So I'll fully admit this is
Speaker 2: probably maybe the fifth best, fourth or fifth best in
Speaker 2: the series. It's no, it's probably the fifth best, uh
Speaker 2: maybe even sixth because Mission Impossible three I get a
Speaker 2: soft spot four two. So I would say this is
Speaker 2: probably like thirty two hot Dogs for me. It's like
Speaker 2: a good theater movie. You're not really gonna rewatch it,
Speaker 2: you're not really gonna recommend it, but you enjoy it
Speaker 2: while you're there. On the year for twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: in that range, it's it's I've got four movies now
Speaker 2: there Good Novacane, Mickey seventeen, and Companion. I all have
Speaker 2: at thirty two hot Dogs. I'm gonna throw this in
Speaker 2: there in that range too, So somewhere in the five
Speaker 2: to eight range on the year so far, but I've
Speaker 2: only seen now I think, thirteen movies. But again, this
Speaker 2: does feel more in that Mission Impossible, Mission Impossible three range,
Speaker 2: at like thirty two dog range that are really good,
Speaker 2: not great. You're not necessarily telling people to go watch
Speaker 2: this movie, whereas Ghost Protocol and Road Nation I think
Speaker 2: are like two of the best in the genre. Fallout,
Speaker 2: of course, people loved that movie too because of all
Speaker 2: the action in it. So this just this isn't nearly
Speaker 2: on those levels. And if you go and expecting that,
Speaker 2: you're going to be disappointed. I didn't go in expecting that,
Speaker 2: though I expect, I somewhat expected what we got. So
Speaker 2: it really just if it meets my expectations, I can't
Speaker 2: be too upset about it.
Speaker 1: I have it right around death of a Unicorn, like
Speaker 1: nine or ten on the AAR. I just don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care for this. It wasn't for me. The
Speaker 1: ocean scene, how does from the depths of the sea.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need his submarining divers equipment, he can do
Speaker 1: it on his own.
Speaker 2: So Tom Cruise Ethan Hunt does it completes his mission
Speaker 2: in the submarine Sevestopol I believe it's called, which is
Speaker 2: sitting on a cliff on the ocean floor five hundred
Speaker 2: feet below. Whilst in there, because he's causing all sorts
Speaker 2: of changes with the air and the water, it starts
Speaker 2: moving and it's getting ready to fall him further. So
Speaker 2: he escapes through a torpedo shoot cool, but secondary he
Speaker 2: has to rip his wet suit thing open and he's
Speaker 2: probably gonna be about six hundred feet deep now, and
Speaker 2: he somehow survives floating up from six hundred feet down,
Speaker 2: and then they find him. I do like how they
Speaker 2: just glazed over that they cut open the ice and
Speaker 2: found him, find him underneath the ice. They do CPR,
Speaker 2: and he comes back and survives because of a hyperbaric chamber.
Speaker 2: I think that there's a chance his skull would have
Speaker 2: been crushed at six hundred feet. I don't really know
Speaker 2: the physics of the ocean. I do know that if
Speaker 2: you free dive, I think it's around thirty feet. It's
Speaker 2: like you can't, like you're you're having a bad time.
Speaker 2: I don't even think you can get to fifty feet,
Speaker 2: never mind one hundred and two hundred three and all that.
Speaker 2: So coming up the compression sickness, all the shit that
Speaker 2: the divers were talking about, it's literally impossible that he
Speaker 2: would have survived this. And this is a little bit
Speaker 2: of a shark jumping moment, because all the shit in
Speaker 2: the past, in these movies, they do seem impossible for
Speaker 2: someone to survive. Half the time. Also knowing that Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise the lot of the practical stunts, you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: it's conceivable. I see an avenue, I see the one
Speaker 2: out of one hundred that someone would survive this, you know,
Speaker 2: at the end, to fall out the helicopter crashers and
Speaker 2: they're on the cliff. Unlikely, but I see how that
Speaker 2: could happen. I do not see how someone could survive
Speaker 2: coming up with no breathing apparatus, no nothing, from six
Speaker 2: hundred feet down in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from six hundred feet. So he took off his
Speaker 1: scuba suit at first to get out of the torpedo
Speaker 1: launcher there, and then on his way up he gets
Speaker 1: caught on the fin of the submarine. So he just
Speaker 1: cuts it off entirely and just starts swimming and apparently.
Speaker 2: Makes it like five hundred feet up swimming before he
Speaker 2: starts convulsing, like twenty feet before the surface. Like, I
Speaker 2: didn't love that.
Speaker 1: Simon Peg said that the ice would keep him alive.
Speaker 2: Which I understand that part of it. There's actually they
Speaker 2: do use like they do lower purposely lower people's body
Speaker 2: temperatures to keep people alive in some medical situation, So
Speaker 2: that part is true. The problem is the it's the
Speaker 2: other stuff that would have killed him, not the cold,
Speaker 2: but the other stuff, the depth, the pressure, all that shit.
Speaker 1: Do you like when he goes to the airplane and
Speaker 1: he hijacks that fella's airplane and he one punches him
Speaker 1: out like he's Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was I was feeling like I was watching
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones movie and then that like it's knocked out.
Speaker 1: Like someone's fisting a pie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't great. I did like our send off
Speaker 2: to Luther. Finally we got a character that's been here
Speaker 2: for forever that had that we lost. We did lose
Speaker 2: Rebecca Ferguson in the last movie, but she was only
Speaker 2: in a couple. I like when we lose characters that
Speaker 2: we've had for a while, characters that are meaningful. So
Speaker 2: that was good. I thought it was maybe not a
Speaker 2: proper send off for this franchise and the characters. I
Speaker 2: thought it was good enough and and that's all. I
Speaker 2: really needed, a good enough send off. And I like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what more you wanted out of this movie, Like,
Speaker 2: how did you feel about the last movie?
Speaker 1: It more than this? I think I just wanted I
Speaker 1: just think this was just too big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the last movie was telling us that.
Speaker 1: I know that. But everything was just so overly serious.
Speaker 1: There was no fun to it, and I hated how
Speaker 1: everyone everyone's life. Everyone's dialogue was like, whenever Ethan Hunt
Speaker 1: wasn't around, I wonder what Ethan's doing. Ethan's great? Isn't
Speaker 1: Ethan the coolest? I agree Ethan is great. The conversation
Speaker 1: that Haley Atwell has with him in the Hyperbolic Chamber
Speaker 1: about like, hey, like, why don't you control the entity?
Speaker 1: Why don't like why? I think you should be the
Speaker 1: one that's in charge of all of this. Get off
Speaker 1: his balls, stop it, stop it with everybody.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't just destroy it.
Speaker 1: It's in a flash drive now, right, so destroy it.
Speaker 1: Well if you threw the flash drive down now that
Speaker 1: it's like caught in there, couldn't like plank o its
Speaker 1: way out.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think it's.
Speaker 1: I don't know the science behind it. I don't know
Speaker 1: the math behind it.
Speaker 2: There were some Ultron vibes here too.
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking, like at the start, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, age of Ultron? Tom Cruise?
Speaker 2: Was he originally almost iron man? I? I, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: you're right about that. I just have a hard time,
Speaker 2: like overly criticizing this. It was like almost exactly what
Speaker 2: I expected in some respects.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite still from the movie is when
Speaker 1: he's hanging onto the wing of the plane and his
Speaker 1: head is facing this way and he has like that
Speaker 1: dirpy haircut. It was the ball and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: was all worth it, This was worth it. I was
Speaker 1: thinking early on. I'm like, I think he should have
Speaker 1: went back with the shorter hair. He looks younger, he
Speaker 1: looks fresher.
Speaker 2: He did look younger freshman the last movie. And I
Speaker 2: do like that. They point out Haley atwell at the
Speaker 2: begin of this movie points so like, I like the
Speaker 2: long hair.
Speaker 1: No, but I don't like that because it's too complimentary.
Speaker 1: Every line can't be complimentary.
Speaker 2: That's the tug in cheek shit you're talking about. Though.
Speaker 2: You gotta appreciate that.
Speaker 1: But it was a compliment to him. This is so
Speaker 1: it's yes for one thing, but also something else. Too
Speaker 1: many compliments for Tom Cruise in this movie.
Speaker 2: Pom Clement was great, by the way. She was awesome
Speaker 2: this so.
Speaker 1: In the last movie she was pretty much playing a joker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this movie calmed it down really little more depth
Speaker 1: to her character.
Speaker 2: I don't know why she didn't speak English the whole
Speaker 2: time when she could understand English, but.
Speaker 1: Did you speak English last movie?
Speaker 2: No, she's spoke in French or whatever she speaks in
Speaker 2: U in this movie. I just like, I feel like
Speaker 2: you're having I mean, you didn't enjoy it, clearly.
Speaker 1: But I did not enjoy it. My diet PEPSI sucked.
Speaker 2: I also feel like your complaints and gripes aren't great.
Speaker 1: The entire movie was that? Are you saying the entire
Speaker 1: movie wasn't a big complimentary.
Speaker 2: Say, I feel like I feel like this is what
Speaker 2: it should have been. Essentially, it was.
Speaker 1: Too big, it was boring, it was joyless.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, let's get into sac you saw, you saw
Speaker 2: here's a little here's a little spoiler of the folks
Speaker 2: that have made it this fart of the episode. You
Speaker 2: saw another movie this week and you said that movie
Speaker 2: better than this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're in nax Zach right now when
Speaker 1: it could be anything. And apparently MATC just asked me
Speaker 1: a question before I fucking introduced it. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Stitch next week. Lelo and Stitch the live action.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Is it the best? No? But did
Speaker 1: it do enough to warrant being a or being made.
Speaker 1: It's a live action job. Yeah, it did its job.
Speaker 1: I would say that I might have liked Aladdin a
Speaker 1: little bit more when it comes to the live action ones,
Speaker 1: but I like that movie more than most. I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun at swashbuckling. This one has an
Speaker 1: issue that when Stitch is not on the screen, kind.
Speaker 2: Of lacks means family.
Speaker 1: Ohanna does mean family?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm looking forward to Stitch. Is there another
Speaker 2: movie coming out soon too? We're getting closer.
Speaker 1: To the bris Arena is coming out this lots.
Speaker 2: Of movie, a couple of weeks weeks.
Speaker 1: How to Train Your Dragon is coming up, A bunch
Speaker 1: of movie. Oh well, July is Superman, Rascic World, Fantastic.
Speaker 2: Four, Fantastic four July.
Speaker 1: July smirks, It's all July, All right, Mac, Back to
Speaker 1: what I was gonna talk about in your sack. A
Speaker 1: huge part of my teenage years was at five o'clock
Speaker 1: popping on ESPN and catching a bunch of my friends
Speaker 1: debating sports. And that was Around the Horn. Today, Friday,
Speaker 1: May twenty third, twenty twenty five, The Year of Our
Speaker 1: Lord is the final episode of Around the Horn. Have
Speaker 1: I seen an episode.
Speaker 2: I thought they stopped like a year ago.
Speaker 1: No, No, it was canceled a couple months ago. The
Speaker 1: final episode is today. Am I completely am I one
Speaker 1: hundred percent sure about that fact. No, but I think
Speaker 1: it's right all right, I will say that once again,
Speaker 1: and this is no slight against it. I just I
Speaker 1: don't really, I don't have ESPN. I'm not around around
Speaker 1: five o'clock to watch it. I probably wouldn't watch it anyways.
Speaker 1: But as a teenager, Around the Horn maybe my favorite show.
Speaker 2: It was great. It was Around the Horn and PTI
Speaker 2: on back to back five and five thirty leading in
Speaker 2: the Sports Center at six. Both were great, like especially
Speaker 2: mid two thousands, they were perfect mid two thousands, Uh,
Speaker 2: sports shows. I might be misremembering. Wasn't there a time
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show where it wasn't always
Speaker 2: Tony Reality hosting? Or was he always hosting?
Speaker 1: Max Kellerman was the host?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yep, that's right, because at.
Speaker 1: First Tony Reality was stat Boy on around on PTS.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's where it's now. It's connecting
Speaker 2: Woody Page, the best I think all time. PTI guy
Speaker 2: you also had Skip was on there for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Tim kallishaw Ja, Don Day, Michael and Mike Smith, Jackie McMullen,
Speaker 2: Bob Ryan. When it first started, it was really just
Speaker 2: six or seven and then Sully Moore worked their way in,
Speaker 2: But it was it was a good way to get
Speaker 2: get like these writers because I mean, think about it,
Speaker 2: goo nineties sports writers were still mainly print, hadn't really
Speaker 2: made their their impression on TV yet. ESPN changed out
Speaker 2: a little bit, Sports Center changed out a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it was still like different. They were anchors. And
Speaker 2: then the two thousands brought on a lot of these shows.
Speaker 2: You had what was the Sunday Show with.
Speaker 1: The sports writers?
Speaker 2: Sports writers? Great fucking was.
Speaker 1: It Bob Lee? But Bobby Lee the guy from Matt TV.
Speaker 2: Forget who was on there all the time. But that
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna do Last of Us on Monday? Uh?
Speaker 2: Certainly not on Monday. I'm not even gonna be watching
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Speaker 2: won't even watching it until Monday night. So we could
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Speaker 1: If so, let's let's do Stitch on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna see Stitch until Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So let's do something on Tuesday and then either on
Speaker 1: on Friday, we'll either.
Speaker 2: Do maybe I'll see Stitch Monday night. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Let's we'll we'll talk about it off the air, okay,
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Speaker 2: We'll have episodes.
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