Speaker 1: Maddy questions for Jason that would be six package in
Speaker 1: variety before we get into the discussion about it.
Speaker 2: The six.
Speaker 3: I know we got. We gotta save it for later.
Speaker 3: We're filming.
Speaker 4: We'll save all that, save it for later, Okay, Mad
Speaker 4: questions question would not be part of the six pack.
Speaker 3: Okay, question for Jason, not related to six packs. I mean,
Speaker 3: let's all, do we want to move it towards Atlanta United?
Speaker 3: Are we already moving towards that area? Yes, I get
Speaker 3: the thumb stuff. We're doing it. Okay. Looking at n
Speaker 3: y C, I think for me, at least, they're a
Speaker 3: team that scares me because of if you look at
Speaker 3: some of the late goals that they've had, they're very
Speaker 3: good at rallying and like finding something like they're just
Speaker 3: really good at that. What are some of the things
Speaker 3: that scare you about n y C? And what does
Speaker 3: Atlanta need to do to come out of this with
Speaker 3: three points?
Speaker 5: I think NYC is in some ways really similar to
Speaker 5: it United in the way that they approach the games
Speaker 5: and also in the way that they are not quite
Speaker 5: hitting where they want to be just yet. It's a
Speaker 5: team that's not having a whole lot of possession at
Speaker 5: the moment, and they want possession, and I think you
Speaker 5: could say the same about Atlanta, although I wonder what
Speaker 5: that ideal possession number is for Rodney Daila and the
Speaker 5: way that the game has evolved, I wonder at times.
Speaker 5: And this is a very frustrating thing. As I'll pull
Speaker 5: a soapbox back out for a second. It's very frustrating
Speaker 5: that stats are different depending on what site you're looking
Speaker 5: at in terms of possession and key passes and kind
Speaker 5: of basic stuff, depending on if you're looking at the
Speaker 5: league site, SOFA score, OPTA. It's all way too different.
Speaker 5: It's very frustrating at the moment trying to get a
Speaker 5: good feel of teams because the numbers are varying and
Speaker 5: that doesn't help. But team are under fifty percent possession
Speaker 5: this season according to most places, and that's that's not
Speaker 5: where either one wants to be. So who kind of
Speaker 5: gets that right, Because somebody's got to have more than
Speaker 5: fifty percent of the ball in this game. I believe
Speaker 5: that's how it works with one hundred percent on offer.
Speaker 5: So who gets it and do they get it in
Speaker 5: the right places that they want to have the ball?
Speaker 5: Both teams are capable, they just haven't quite found it yet.
Speaker 5: Both teams have great strikers that can ruin your day.
Speaker 5: In Latte, lot In Alonzo Martinez Martinez scored a goal,
Speaker 5: had two assists in Costa Rica, just obliterating Believes to
Speaker 5: qualify for the Gold Cup, so he wasn't really tested.
Speaker 5: He played one hundred and thirty five minutes. I'm I
Speaker 5: think on the Atlanta side, what I want to see,
Speaker 5: and I think it affects how you you limit NYC
Speaker 5: a little bit, is I want to see Lenin especially
Speaker 5: involved on a regular basis high up the field on
Speaker 5: the right. I think that starts to fix the offensive
Speaker 5: rotations a little bit more, whether it's Saba or Miguel
Speaker 5: on the right side as the winger coming inside a
Speaker 5: little bit to give Lenin space. It's gonna fix them
Speaker 5: in more of a location rather than some of the
Speaker 5: freewheeling we saw a little bit early on when you
Speaker 5: didn't have the fullbacks getting as high. So I think
Speaker 5: that just gives more coherence to the way that Atlanta
Speaker 5: wants to play. Get Lenin involved, feed him. The other
Speaker 5: thing that's a big question mark is Keaton Parks and
Speaker 5: how much he's going to be able to play for NYC.
Speaker 5: You know, he left the game in the last match
Speaker 5: in the first half. He returned to training yesterday according
Speaker 5: to Pascal Johnson, And where is he going to be
Speaker 5: Because if you don't have him, that idea of NYC
Speaker 5: getting more to where they want to be in terms
Speaker 5: of possession, it's a lot harder without Keaton Parks. He's
Speaker 5: such an important connector for that group. And if he's
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent or can only go forty five
Speaker 5: or thirty or sixty And honestly, look, Atlanta might be
Speaker 5: in the same situation with matteish Klik, who is back
Speaker 5: in training, but I can't imagine he's ninety minutes fit
Speaker 5: if he's going to get the starting spot. Both of
Speaker 5: them are very important in the way that the teams
Speaker 5: want to play. Both of them are going to be
Speaker 5: limited to some degree that we don't really know yet.
Speaker 5: So those two could be the most important players in
Speaker 5: each team forgetting the way that they want to play
Speaker 5: across and we'll see who's more effective at it.
Speaker 2: So we've talked a lot about and we've.
Speaker 1: Jerifer Jason go for it.
Speaker 5: Is John like on a crazy delay in Central Georgia,
Speaker 5: it's very.
Speaker 2: Fun, It's very possible. We've talked about with Atlanta there.
Speaker 2: How I think it's changed. The narrative.
Speaker 6: Arn is changing because of the way they've been playing
Speaker 6: in the second half of games. But early in the
Speaker 6: season the second half wasn't what you wanted after a
Speaker 6: strong first half. And we know that Atlanta comes out
Speaker 6: of the gate and can just create fireworks like crazy
Speaker 6: off the bat. In looking at NYC, what's that time
Speaker 6: of the game where you're kind of being more on
Speaker 6: your guard because we know we've had you know, Atlanta's
Speaker 6: had teams in the past that were dangerous at the
Speaker 6: end of halves. Columbus was infamous for collapsing at the
Speaker 6: end of halves a couple of years ago. Even though
Speaker 6: they want a trophy, Like, when is that time where
Speaker 6: you where New York can kind of try and turn
Speaker 6: their screw.
Speaker 5: It's so early to tell. I mean, I think, you know,
Speaker 5: with two new managers, I think we're getting a sense
Speaker 5: of what these things look like over time, and it's
Speaker 5: early and last week you kind of have to throw
Speaker 5: out to a degree.
Speaker 2: I think NYC has had a.
Speaker 5: Knack for scoring like goals, so you have to worry
Speaker 5: about that a little bit as this team fatigues in Atlanta.
Speaker 5: But NYC is going to be a little short handed
Speaker 5: as well with injuries. I can't imagine keeping Parks unless
Speaker 5: you save him for the last thirty or so. I
Speaker 5: can't imagine he's still on the field at that point,
Speaker 5: and then they look different. I think it's an interesting
Speaker 5: topic in funeral just because of Atlanta's talked about it.
Speaker 5: Ronnie Dila has talked about it. We watched the session yesterday,
Speaker 5: Mattie and I and it was a lighter physical session
Speaker 5: and that was by design. This is something that Dailah
Speaker 5: has spoken about. He spoke about it yesterday. Trying to
Speaker 5: find that balance between how much work to put in
Speaker 5: in terms of the fitness side of things and how
Speaker 5: much to keep some fuel in the tank for the
Speaker 5: weekend match. And until you get to know the group
Speaker 5: you're working with, and that's the players, that's the medical staff,
Speaker 5: that's the sports science staff, that's the physical training staff.
Speaker 5: Until you all kind of work together a little bit,
Speaker 5: you're I don't want to say guessing, because that's gonna
Speaker 5: people will run with it and take it in into
Speaker 5: a different direction. You're evolving it, and I think Dilah's
Speaker 5: talked about a couple of times, and I thought he
Speaker 5: was really clear yesterday and saying it he wants the
Speaker 5: team to have more energy on the weekend. And maybe
Speaker 5: they've gone a little bit harder during the week early
Speaker 5: on as you're trying to get ideas across, as you're
Speaker 5: trying to get the understanding of the way you want
Speaker 5: to play across. So it seems like he's consciously dialing
Speaker 5: that back to try to have more energy on the weekend.
Speaker 5: Long term, you've basically had a longer preseason in the way,
Speaker 5: if you want to think about it, because you're going
Speaker 5: to be more physically fit in general, which will help
Speaker 5: you later, but it's hurts you a little bit in
Speaker 5: the second halves of games. I didn't really see that
Speaker 5: issue in Cincinnati too much. So I think it's having
Speaker 5: an effect in terms of managing the workload during the
Speaker 5: week while not just throwing away a session. And it's
Speaker 5: something we talked about in Training Ground Dispatch. There's your plug,
Speaker 5: go watch it about how you can still accomplish very
Speaker 5: important things while not working as hard physically, And I
Speaker 5: think Derek Williams nailed it with the competitive aspects of
Speaker 5: the activities that they did that didn't overtax them physically.
Speaker 5: So I think they're getting that. I think Atlanta in
Speaker 5: terms of those second halves, Jared is getting that right.
Speaker 5: The deeper we go into the season and they'll continue
Speaker 5: to kind of dial it up and dial it in.
Speaker 5: The schedule is gonna get weird and you got to
Speaker 5: adjust on the fly anyway. But I think the second
Speaker 5: halves are gonna be better. They've been getting better, and
Speaker 5: I think they're going to continue to be better if
Speaker 5: this team has a little more freshness about them in
Speaker 5: that second forty five. And I think Diala's taking actions
Speaker 5: to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Maddy, for Jason, what else is on your mind?
Speaker 3: I do this every time. My Mike has always needed
Speaker 3: and I try to talk and it's fine anyway, John.
Speaker 2: Is infecting you. I know that this rough. I think
Speaker 2: this is rough.
Speaker 3: I know from talking about it a little bit earlier
Speaker 3: this week and even to like just chatting as well
Speaker 3: for me, like when when Ronnie was talking in the
Speaker 3: postgame press conference after Cincy, he talked about, you know
Speaker 3: the team in those moments where you know Cincinnati is
Speaker 3: able to come back and you know, capitalize on a
Speaker 3: turnover and Evander's able to find the back of the net.
Speaker 3: It's losing shape, losing discipline, losing concentration, and I think
Speaker 3: for me it's I agree with you. I think the
Speaker 3: second half in the game against Cincinnati was a lot
Speaker 3: better than the second half so we've seen earlier. I
Speaker 3: think it was more of a complete half. It didn't
Speaker 3: feel like twenty minutes they were good and then the
Speaker 3: rest was kind of fallen off. I think that they
Speaker 3: put in the work for that, and for me, that
Speaker 3: was the fight that I saw. That's what I wanted
Speaker 3: to see, and I saw it. But for me it
Speaker 3: was also too It's not the turn it's not the
Speaker 3: free kick that is given up that allows them to
Speaker 3: take it. For me, the loss of concentration comes from
Speaker 3: that second goal five minutes later. That's where that comes in.
Speaker 3: It's because you get in your head almost that free
Speaker 3: kick goes in and then and it's okay, we got.
Speaker 2: To bounce back.
Speaker 3: Everything's frantic now and then you give up a turnover.
Speaker 3: And since I was able to capitalize in this match
Speaker 3: against NYC, when you look at that, what does Atlanta
Speaker 3: need to do? To stay focused and to not lose discipline,
Speaker 3: to not lose shape in those moments where you know,
Speaker 3: maybe there is a turnover, maybe there is a goal,
Speaker 3: and y s he's able to put one in, Like,
Speaker 3: how can Atlanta overcome that hump and keep things level
Speaker 3: and keep playing the game that they're going to play.
Speaker 5: The way they could overcome not losing any kind of focus,
Speaker 5: not losing any kind of shape, not losing any kind
Speaker 5: of mental fatigue. The way they would overcome that is
Speaker 5: to become a robot, which is not going to happen
Speaker 5: between now and then. It's not physically possible. I don't
Speaker 5: think give it time. Probably it will by some point.
Speaker 5: They're humans, And I think this is something that you
Speaker 5: know when when I see people have this conversation, it's just, oh,
Speaker 5: they should focus better. Well, let me ask everybody out
Speaker 5: there listening. Are you one hundred percent locked in, focused,
Speaker 5: never distracted when you're at work? Never, never, never you
Speaker 5: glance at something else? Never, never, never you doom, scroll
Speaker 5: never never never always locked in on that.
Speaker 2: Spreadsheet You're not now here's what you have to do.
Speaker 2: And I thought Derek Williams nailed.
Speaker 5: It yesterday when he talked about this. In those moments
Speaker 5: which are human. You're tired, you're maybe frustrated, you're maybe overwhelmed,
Speaker 5: you're physically feeling it. In those moments where you feel it,
Speaker 5: and players do and coaches do. And that's why you
Speaker 5: went to a line of five last week. Ronnie was
Speaker 5: dead on. The game was getting away from you a
Speaker 5: little bit before the first foul that led to the
Speaker 5: free kick. You tried to change it.
Speaker 2: You couldn't.
Speaker 5: All right, when you start to feel that slip, which
Speaker 5: is just to happen. Derek talked about it with Charlotte
Speaker 5: as an example, and they do a really good job
Speaker 5: of it because look, they're not super expansive to begin with,
Speaker 5: so it's an easy transition for them. You start to feel, man,
Speaker 5: the game's getting away, we're tired, where we're hurting a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 2: What do we do? Play it?
Speaker 5: Long?
Speaker 2: Bomb it, get the ball out of your your half.
Speaker 5: Just keep it simple, write it out until you can
Speaker 5: create some positive momentum going the other way, until you
Speaker 5: can regain your wits about you, whatever it is, find that.
Speaker 5: And I think this team is good enough defensively, especially
Speaker 5: in normal situations, to concede that a little bit to
Speaker 5: concede that possession a little bit, just relieve the pressure,
Speaker 5: and you are are striving for something in the way
Speaker 5: that this team plays that is very top top, very
Speaker 5: high up here, and it's a great vision to have
Speaker 5: and it's a great goal to have. It's impossible to
Speaker 5: be there for ninety minutes every single game.
Speaker 2: You just can't.
Speaker 5: So in those moments where it's getting away from you,
Speaker 5: and it's never easy to flip a switch and change
Speaker 5: who you are and change the way that you want
Speaker 5: to be. But you need to find a way to
Speaker 5: do it more in these moments where it might be
Speaker 5: the sixty fifth minute before or after you make subs,
Speaker 5: and might be after you make subs and guys are
Speaker 5: coming in and it's all discombobulated because you brought in
Speaker 5: fresh legs here and they're running around like crazy, and
Speaker 5: then you know Mirian Chuket is tired and he's trying
Speaker 5: to catch his breath and he just wants to hold
Speaker 5: the ball a little bit, keep it like you need
Speaker 5: to be able to have something to where it's we
Speaker 5: need a little bit of time here, bombit long. Let
Speaker 5: them try to build up the play and defend. And
Speaker 5: this team's good enough in defending to do that. Defending
Speaker 5: in normal situations. Don't give up turnovers in your own third,
Speaker 5: don't give up you know, bad turnovers in the middle third.
Speaker 5: Don't give up dangerous free kicks. Don't have those transition
Speaker 5: moments hurt you when you're set to defend. This team's good,
Speaker 5: so lean to that. And in the moments where you
Speaker 5: feel the game getting away from you and the focus, focus, intensity, momentum.
Speaker 5: I mean, we can hit the thisaurus all day on it.
Speaker 5: When those things get away from you, concede possession, get
Speaker 5: organized and defend and ride it out. And I think
Speaker 5: if this team can find that, they're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna have more energy as they go.
Speaker 5: I think all the little tweaks are working. The team
Speaker 5: is getting better as you go. They should have more
Speaker 5: than they do. Welcome to soccer. It sucks sometimes, so
Speaker 5: you have to figure out how to ride out those
Speaker 5: moments where you're getting punished.
Speaker 2: And to me, that's it.
Speaker 5: And I think if if Derek's feeling that that, you
Speaker 5: know what we can do that we can sit back
Speaker 5: and defend between him and Steun, the full backs drop
Speaker 5: and to defend the two central midfielders in front. You
Speaker 5: can defend pretty deep, you can be smart. You're never
Speaker 5: going to be a defense first team, but you can
Speaker 5: be for five or ten minutes at a time.
Speaker 2: That's what you need to do. That's how you deal
Speaker 2: with it, because you're not going to become a robot.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow broadcast plans for Atlanta nighted on the weekend, taking
Speaker 1: on NYC six thirty for pregame coverage starting on ninety
Speaker 1: two nine the game and the Odyssey app ape Gordon
Speaker 1: Madison Cruz on that.
Speaker 5: Then we'll have garth agerway in the booth a little
Speaker 5: bit before seven o'clock. Mike Conty and I will jump
Speaker 5: in for that. Then we'll jump back out. Abe and
Speaker 5: Maddy will finish pregame. Then we'll jump back in right
Speaker 5: before seven thirty seven forty is your kickoff time. And
Speaker 5: I believe possibly Jarrett Smith will be doing postgame with
Speaker 5: Abe Gordon. If Jarrett Smith has not turned into a
Speaker 5: robot as of yet.
Speaker 2: The odds are the odds are ever in your favor,
Speaker 2: The odds are good.
Speaker 5: If not, then Maddie will have to do postgame, somebody will,
Speaker 5: and we'll go from there.
Speaker 2: Abe will just probably be yelling at both of yous.
Speaker 4: Abe is basically eternally on a mechanical bowl and we've
Speaker 4: taped his hand.
Speaker 2: To the bull. He might be a robot, he might
Speaker 2: be the one.
Speaker 4: We've taped him to the mechanical bull so that even
Speaker 4: if he gets bucked off, he's still gonna hang on
Speaker 4: and it's honestly gonna be worse for him if he
Speaker 4: can't hang on, if he does.
Speaker 2: Lose his balance. It's true. It's true.
Speaker 5: Check out on our social media platforms Instagram and I
Speaker 5: believe it made it to threads as well, and it's
Speaker 5: on our YouTube channel. Clip from Rhys James of Chelsea
Speaker 5: pretty much laying down the gauntlet that they want to
Speaker 5: win the Club World Cup.
Speaker 2: So pretty cool. That's out there.
Speaker 5: Articles also at Soccer down here dot net training ground
Speaker 5: dispatches out from yesterday. You've got clips making their rounds
Speaker 5: as well, lots of content. And then we got two
Speaker 5: high school games tonight. Maddie and I will be in
Speaker 5: Covington for East Side hosting North Oak Cooney. That'll be
Speaker 5: on the Numero Uno Mixler channel and then on the
Speaker 5: Deuce it will be Drew Dickinson and John Nelson from
Speaker 5: Brookwood High School. One of the oldest rivalries in Georgia
Speaker 5: high school soccer Parkview at Brookwood. They hate each other
Speaker 5: if they're playing Tiddley Wings let alone soccer.
Speaker 2: Yes, the kids don't understand.
Speaker 5: They don't know what it's like. Sean Johnson knows what
Speaker 5: it's like. Walker Zimmerman knows what it's like. Josh Wolf
Speaker 5: knows what it's like.
Speaker 3: My uncle it's like they played on the team as well.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: I told them all the time, like when I tell
Speaker 3: them when the first high schood I did with you
Speaker 3: guys was that game, and they were like, oh, it's bad.
Speaker 3: They're like they're going to kill each other. Like it's
Speaker 3: going to kill each other. And they know it too,
Speaker 3: Like I'll mention it in just passing and like my
Speaker 3: uncle will just get like a sea of rage and
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, it's how.
Speaker 2: I feel about Sandy Creek. So you know it's all good, Okay,
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 1: Yes, So it's gonna be. And then we also have
Speaker 1: the two's on Sunday after Chattanooga FC.
Speaker 5: Another one that might invoke rage from some people, some
Speaker 5: Atlanta people and some people in East Ridge as well,
Speaker 5: because that they're gonna play next week, which that's gonna
Speaker 5: be chaos. We'll see if Chattanooga FC's a little distracted
Speaker 5: on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chattanooga might like Chattanoog. I'm not saying that Chattanoog
Speaker 4: is gonna rotate. Chattanooga just might be careful. We like, Hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna play some subs in the sixtieth minute. I
Speaker 4: need because a points in MLS next pro is one thing,
Speaker 4: but they're playing the team in the East Ridge and
Speaker 4: the midweek, and that's honestly, that's gonna be more important
Speaker 4: for their hearts and minds.
Speaker 5: It should be. It absolutely should be. That's gonna be
Speaker 5: wild next week in.
Speaker 3: The stadium too, because good friends of Network is so
Speaker 3: Sonya as well as of Courson and my friend Alex.
Speaker 3: They're going up to watch the game. So I told them,
Speaker 3: I said, listen, you got to give me like up
Speaker 3: to date. If stuff's happening, you got to let me know.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we'll be stuff happening there.
Speaker 3: Sorry, because I'm gonna have a delay, but you got
Speaker 3: to tell me what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna need a camera in the stands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, you're gonna need a few. Good luck to
Speaker 5: everybody involved in that one. But yeah, we'll be statements. Yeah,
Speaker 5: basically we'll be we'll be a little busy between now
Speaker 5: and Sunday night and back when morning Espresso is back
Speaker 5: for you on Monday and s the Aha n back
Speaker 5: for you on Monday. We'll have lots to talk about
Speaker 5: because we'll all be very busy, absolutely true. So that's
Speaker 5: gonna do it for a show.
Speaker 1: Because Maddie and Jason they've got a tape six pack
Speaker 1: and that's going to be out very very soon.
Speaker 2: We're gonna catch up with Steve Cook.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a part of our conversation getting
Speaker 1: us ready for the twos in Chattanooga. So busy weekend
Speaker 1: across the board High School, this afternoon on the Deuce
Speaker 1: and on the mother Ships. So fo Jarrett for Maddie
Speaker 1: and this is just me looking at it, and so
Speaker 1: down that way is Jason at least in mind what
Speaker 1: you just broke your wrists trying to point in a
Speaker 1: certain direction. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: I was trying it, well, I was trying to do
Speaker 2: it with my left trying to do it with my
Speaker 2: left hand. But I have to go that are you
Speaker 2: doing the macarena. What are you doing trying anyway?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, bye Tyler. Terrence glad that Tyler came by.
Speaker 1: We gave him some food wrecks, and we also have
Speaker 1: a story that uh for Ronnie Dialleer. Later, Glenn Crooks
Speaker 1: joined us. In a half hour, We're out. We'll see
Speaker 1: you this weekend play Save everybody whatch you plot, y'all
Speaker 1: since it is the end of the show that means
Speaker 1: we get to do this.
Speaker 2: Bye.