1 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:21,199 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,960 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,679 Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:32,640 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:37,200 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDRLST, 6 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:40,799 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,799 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,399 Our guest today is Representative Brian's Style, representing Wisconsin's first 9 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:52,679 congressional district, is also chairman of the House Administration Committee. 10 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,320 The committee has and will play a key role in 11 00:00:56,359 --> 00:01:01,479 government accountability in this new session of Congress. Congressman Style, 12 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,240 thank you so much for joining us at the Federalist 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,959 Radio Hour. Matt, thanks for having me on busy week 14 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,439 already so far. In fact, we're talking to you as 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,959 you just stepped off the floor. What you vote on 16 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,799 on this Thursday, Well, this is all. 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: About getting our country back on track and setting ourselves 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,560 up for success when President Trump comes into office, in particular, 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,439 securing the border. The Lake and Riley Act in particular 20 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:30,000 gives us an opportunity to say, hey, if you're an 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,159 individual who committed a crime, who's in the country illegally, 22 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:35,519 you don't have business being in the United States. It's 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,920 working to secure the border and making sure that we're 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,400 actually in a position to take advantage of President Trump 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,640 coming into office to secure the border for the American people. 26 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:51,079 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, that's jumping right out in front here. There's 27 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:53,120 been a lot of talk about that that the transition 28 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:56,879 team for the President is. I mean, it's very aggressive 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,519 in setting that up and certainly making his agenda very clear, 30 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:05,040 well known to Congress. One of the biggest parts of that, 31 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,520 of course, is the whole illegal immigration mess that to 32 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:13,800 he and this Congress inherits thanks to Joe Biden and 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,360 his borders are Kamala Harris. Let's talk a little bit 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,439 about the Lake and Riley Act. Let's say her name, 35 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,360 which was a very important seminal point last year during 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,199 the State of the Union address. You are saying her 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,000 name and the names of other victims of just unimaginable 38 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,800 violence wrought by criminals coming over the border, violent criminals 39 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,280 coming over the border. What does this legislation do, what 40 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:45,240 does it aim to accomplish? 41 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: Well, the end of the day, individuals that illegally enter 42 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 our country. In particularly, are those that engage in illegal 43 00:02:50,439 --> 00:02:54,280 behavior should be held and departed by ICE. And what 44 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:59,240 we see across the country is jurisdictions that refuse to 45 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,599 work with the federal government to deport to legal aliens, 46 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:06,879 in particular those that engage in heinous crimes. And we 47 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,319 have seen that in my home state of Wisconsin, where 48 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,840 Dane County does not cooperate with ICE. 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: They're listed. 50 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:20,199 Speaker 2: By ICE for not cooperating with them to deport individuals 51 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,319 who engage in cernel behavior. We see some of our 52 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,840 nation's largest cities that do the same thing. And as 53 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:29,479 we look for the opportunity to turn things around as 54 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,400 President Trump comes to office, there's an obvious need to 55 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,879 make sure that every jurisdiction in the United States of 56 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:38,479 America is complying with ICE, complying with the federal government 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,680 in enforcing our immigration laws, rather than what we've done 58 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:45,039 for the past four years, what the federal government has 59 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,639 done for the past four years, which is to look 60 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,439 the other way and allow US immigration laws to be 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,719 completely ignored, not only by President Biden, but in particular 62 00:03:57,439 --> 00:03:59,439 by jurisdictions across the country. 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me, maybe refreshing to some as well, 64 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,680 that you have a lot of Democrats joining in this 65 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,439 vote in the House. If my numbers are correct, there 66 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:14,879 were scores of Democrats joining along in this vote. That's 67 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:17,279 something that may not have happened just a couple of 68 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,800 years ago. Two questions on that front, what do you 69 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,600 attribute to the change and do you see cities like 70 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:31,360 Madison and these other so called sanctuary cities doubling down 71 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,600 on the resistance moving forward upon passage and signing of 72 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:35,279 bills like this. 73 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:38,439 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're seeing a change in tone from 74 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,439 the Democrats only because of the political groundswell that is 75 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,759 directly shown in November's election. So you do see Democrats 76 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,720 being willing to come forward and say, okay, in the 77 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:53,720 case an individual engage in a hang azak, yet that 78 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,560 individual should go. Which is why I think there's a 79 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,120 real opportunity in the Senate for this to pass. We've 80 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,199 had a handful of you senators stand up and say, yeah, 81 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,639 I support this, but that's only one small step. We 82 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,240 need to make massive change in our fixing of the 83 00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:14,720 broken illegal immigration system. And so I think that is 84 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:17,480 the real impetus here as to why we're seeing a 85 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,639 shift in tone amongst some Democrats. It's because it's obvious 86 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:25,199 that these types of common sense reforms should pass, should 87 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:28,560 be signed into law. But again, time and again, the 88 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Democrats will ultimately go back to their corner and go 89 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,319 back to their reflexive attitude, which is that we shouldn't 90 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,079 have any form of border security. 91 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:40,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again to that point, what do you see 92 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:44,600 happening in places like Madison. We saw the so called 93 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,720 resistance movement before the inauguration of twenty seventeen. It's been 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,759 a little bit more quiet, But as I've often said, 95 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:56,000 like rust and mold, the left never sleeps. 96 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, We're going to have 97 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,560 to force jurisdictions to comply with federal law. We're going 98 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,319 to have far left governmental organizations, whether or not that's 99 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,839 for example, in Dane County where they're listed, is not 100 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 complying with ice, or whether or not that some of 101 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,079 our nation's largest and most liberal communities that continue to 102 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:23,199 fail to enforce federal immigration law. We're going to have 103 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:24,680 to look at all the tools and a tool kit 104 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,920 at the federal level to force these jurisdictions to comply 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,639 and to work with the federal government enforcing our immigration laws. 106 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:35,439 Speaker 1: We have a little bit of breaking news this morning 107 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,839 as it relates to you. Just a pointed chair of 108 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:45,199 the Digital Assets, Financial Technology, and Artificial Intelligence Subcommittee. It 109 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,560 sounds like a lot of activity going on. Tell us 110 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,000 a little bit about what this subcommittee hopes to do. 111 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: So this is a subcommitte on the Financial Services Committee. 112 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,959 It oversees financial innovation and particular digital assets, where there's 113 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,759 a huge opportunity to put forward common sense legislation and 114 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:07,639 encourages developments in the United States. The way that I 115 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,000 think about this is access to capital. The plumbing of 116 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,120 our financial system is evolving very very quickly. How do 117 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:18,560 we make sure that the rules of the road in 118 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:24,120 the United States encourage American development of this technology. So 119 00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:26,759 let's step back for a moment, Matt, and let's look 120 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,240 back about thirty years is the Internet was coming online, right, 121 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:35,199 pets dot com, AOL, Apple was a company that was 122 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:38,639 nearing bankruptcy. What we have is I have a lot 123 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,399 of challenges with tech companies and others really than TikTok. 124 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,160 The bulk of those tech companies are US based, US 125 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:50,439 domicile companies operating under a US system of laws. I 126 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:53,079 still have challenges with tech, but one of the challenges 127 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,279 I don't have outside of really TikTok is that they're 128 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:00,439 not US companies. We are at a precipice where financial 129 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,040 innovation is developing very quickly. This development is going to occur. 130 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,079 It's going to either occur here in the United States 131 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,240 of America and under our system, under our laws, under 132 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,360 our standards, or we're going to force this innovation development 133 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:19,399 to occur offshore and jurisdictions unlike the United States, could 134 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:21,120 be a place like Russia, or it could be the 135 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 British Virgin Islands. You get have a whole host areas 136 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,800 that this could go. If we do this correctly, we're 137 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:29,279 going to put in place the rules of the road 138 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,080 for innovation to occur here in the United States, so 139 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,480 that we in the United States and the beneficiaries of 140 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:38,799 this innovation and generations to come. So my real focus 141 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,320 here is how do we keep innovation, development, jobs, and 142 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:45,679 technology in the United States, and how do we prevent 143 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:50,240 foreign actors from moving quicker than we are here in 144 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:50,799 the US. 145 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,919 Speaker 1: Pets dot Com, you really took me down memory laying 146 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:55,200 there along with. 147 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,159 Speaker 2: But there were people you don't remember that right, because 148 00:08:57,159 --> 00:08:59,960 there were people, boy, they were buying stock and petstock. 149 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,799 I thought that was eventually the Internet and it was 150 00:09:02,799 --> 00:09:05,679 the people that probably bought stock and the failing company 151 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,840 called Apple that are currently in a yacht in the 152 00:09:08,879 --> 00:09:12,799 Gulf of America relaxing while those of us in Wisconsin 153 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:13,840 are bearing the cold weather. 154 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,399 Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, I'm still asking Jeeves while I did. 155 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:21,639 Why I didn't get on board that one. But Jeeves's right. Oh, 156 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,000 that goes back a little bit too, other social network 157 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:29,120 forms that no longer exist, of course, But that's. 158 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: We're going to have some young people listening to this 159 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:32,440 podcast matter. They are going to be googling what is 160 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,480 ask Jeeves and what is pets dot com? 161 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:40,519 Speaker 1: Well, we know for sure they won't be asking Jeeves. 162 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:44,720 Was what was asked? Jeeves? Absolutely? I don't know. You're 163 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:50,279 also involved. All of that involves this emerging It's been 164 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,639 around for some time, but it's really grown in importance 165 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:58,879 and significance and obviously its stature now in the tech sector. 166 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:01,960 But artificial intelligence does that scare the hell out of 167 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,200 you like it does me? Well, you can go two ways. 168 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,759 Speaker 2: Anytime there is new technology that comes online, the human 169 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:13,000 brain is really good at identifying new risk, it's not 170 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,879 so good at identifying new opportunities. And the way that 171 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:18,879 I think about this is back in the nineteen seventies, 172 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,919 when ATMs are if you're from Wisconsin, a time machine, 173 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:27,159 take your money anywhere. Those money machines. Your ATM came online. 174 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,759 There's a headline, I believe it was in the New 175 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,559 York Times that said money robots will end all bank 176 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,080 teller jobs. And then you step back and you look 177 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,120 with the perspective of time now forty fifty years later, 178 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,519 and what you actually see. Of course, ATMs are ubiquitous, 179 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,759 although they're fading because now you can pay for things 180 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:49,279 just on your phone. But ATMs are ubiquitous. They're everywhere. 181 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,519 You have the ease of getting your money when you're 182 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,679 nowhere near your home bank. And what happened with teller's 183 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,039 We actually saw the number of teller jobs increase. The 184 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,240 value of the work that they're doing goes up. In 185 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,200 the pay for your average bank teller is actually much higher, 186 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,480 even when adjusted for inflation, than it was back in 187 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:12,039 the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, because the lower skilled 188 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,679 job of simply counting money and handing it across the 189 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,200 counter is now done by a machine, an ATM. In 190 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,320 the higher skilled work of maybe helping somebody refinance a 191 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,080 car loan, consolidate debt on your credit cards, or any 192 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,679 other financial transaction is the work of your teller. So 193 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:33,799 as we think about AI artificial intelligence, there is risk 194 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,759 with that. There's unquestionable risks, and we need to mitigate 195 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,200 that risk. But what we also have to do is 196 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,000 think really creatively about how we can leverage AI to 197 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,840 really enhance the value of the work that people are 198 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:48,840 doing so they can be paid more. So the way 199 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,559 that I think about this is no, I am out 200 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,159 of the belief that artificial intelligence will replace all jobs 201 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,559 done by humans, but I think humans that use artificial 202 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,480 intelligence will replace those workers that don't use artificial intelligence. 203 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,679 So it's about embracing technology to be able to perform 204 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,519 your job better to a higher value, so you can 205 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,120 get paid more and live a higher standard of life, 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,679 rather than what is always the fear when new technology 207 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,679 comes online, which is stick your head in the sand 208 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,320 and just hope that it passes you by. That's a 209 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,240 bad approach, and again we got to mitigate the downside 210 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,840 risks in AI and there are downside risks that are 211 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,759 going to require government action. 212 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: This is Molly Hemingway encouraging you to listen to my 213 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:44,399 favorite podcast, Issues, etc. Every day you get in depth 214 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,519 interviews with host Todd Wilkin, asking expert guests substantive thought 215 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,200 provoking questions on all of the important news and issues 216 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,639 of our day. The expert guests are in culture, law, ethics, philosophy, theology, 217 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:05,080 and apologetics. Expert guests expansive topics, always extolling christ issues, etc. 218 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,919 Speaker 1: Well, let us focus on government action for a moment 219 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,559 and talk about it in terms of the things that 220 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,559 we hold most dear, the things that sustain this great experiment. 221 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,720 As to Toppil said, this republic, this representative style democracy. 222 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,919 We heard a lot of talk, of course from the left, 223 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,519 that it was under threat because of Donald Trump and 224 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,799 the mega movement and conservatives in America. It's all a 225 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,159 bunch of in the words of the soon thankfully outgoing 226 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,320 President of the United States, a bunch of malarkey. But 227 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,320 that said, we did have threats, real actual threats to 228 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:54,240 democracy through our elections, and no matter what you thought 229 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:58,519 about twenty twenty, it did create a lot of questions 230 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:01,039 and rightfully so, in the minds of a lot of 231 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,720 Americans about the integrity of our elections. And I have 232 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:08,519 to say I've talked to you before about this. There 233 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:13,919 are three committees that I think did Yeoman's work and 234 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,120 very vital and necessary work that brought to light over 235 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:22,600 the last couple of years the abuses of government, particularly 236 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:27,559 as it relates to elections and election integrity. That of 237 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,399 course is James Comer's Oversight Group, the Judiciary Committee by 238 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:40,039 Representative Jordan and yours the Government the House Administration Committee, 239 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,279 and what you were able to do through a number 240 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,559 of meetings was to really shine a light on some 241 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,320 of the major problems we've seen with election integrity. Let's 242 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,559 take a look back at what you were able to 243 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,879 accomplish in the last two years with the use of 244 00:14:56,919 --> 00:14:57,679 that committee. 245 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,799 Speaker 2: So the Committee Administration overseas federal election law and working 246 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,480 as you noted, with my counterparts, the chairman of the 247 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:10,639 Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan, Chairman of the Oversight Committee, Jim 248 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:14,519 James Comer, we said, let's look in at what's going 249 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,600 on and how we strengthen Americans confidence in our elections. 250 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,600 We pointed out a series of flaws, a series of 251 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,159 loopholes that exist that need to be closed. 252 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,919 Speaker 1: For example, in our committee, we've proved. 253 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: How a foreign billionaire could bring funds into US elections 254 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,799 currently utilizing lee loopholes in US campaign finance law. For example, 255 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,320 a foreign billionaire could transfer say a million dollars into 256 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,159 a five oh one CE organization, and then that organization 257 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,360 can take roughly forty percent of the money and transfer 258 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:51,320 it over to an American super pack that's running political 259 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,120 advertisements in the United States, directly impacting US elections. I 260 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:58,600 have legislation to close that. That's work that still needs 261 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,759 to be done. We saw off loopholes in lack of 262 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:07,759 security inside campaign finance laws, in particular as it relates 263 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,159 to online fundraising committees such as the Democrat Committee of 264 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:16,519 Act Blue that didn't have even basic financial security protocols 265 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:19,840 in place. I brought forward legislation that said, okay, Act Blue, 266 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:23,039 you need to require, for example, a CVV number that's 267 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,879 that three or four digit code on the back of 268 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,399 your credit card you have to enter almost any time 269 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,320 you buy anything online. They weren't requiring that. I think 270 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,200 about prepaid debit and credit cards and the ability for 271 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,360 fraud to be utilized in that regard. We're working to 272 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:42,559 close that loophole. And so time and time again, there 273 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,799 is a need to reform American laws to make sure 274 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:49,080 that we're increasing Americans confidence in our elections. And if 275 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,799 we do that, well, we've actually seen there's a lot 276 00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:53,639 of empirical data on this. There's Americans confidence in their 277 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:57,879 elections improves, they're more likely to actually engage and participate 278 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,159 in American elections, and that's a good thing. 279 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:04,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was telling Laura Trump about that a recent 280 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,480 edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. We were talking about 281 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:10,480 the Pew Research study that came out, and again Pew 282 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:16,160 Research is certainly no bastion of conservative thought, but it 283 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,559 came out with a study I think they had interviewed 284 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,720 something like ten thousand American voters had just voted in 285 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,720 the November fifth election. Ninety five percent expressed at least 286 00:17:28,759 --> 00:17:32,599 some level of confidence in elections how they were handled 287 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,559 and administered in their communities. Eighty eight percent said the 288 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:42,759 same about elections across the country. That's vastly different than 289 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:45,319 I think what the fifty eight to fifty nine percent 290 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:51,960 after the two thousand and twenty elections. So something obviously 291 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:57,799 changed here, and I think what happened was a greater 292 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,720 focus on election and integrity. It became more than just 293 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:06,799 a catchphrase. It became a call to action. Did it not? 294 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: Well, here's how I look at that, Matt, from an 295 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,759 empirical analysis. Let's just study into the state of Georgia. 296 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,279 Is we headed into the twenty twenty two elections, the 297 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:22,640 state of Georgia put forward a substantive and real election 298 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:26,960 integrity bill that ultimately get passed into law. But if 299 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:32,759 we remember, the left attacked that bill mercilessly. Yeah, President 300 00:18:32,839 --> 00:18:35,240 Biden called a Jim Crow two point oh. That was 301 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,680 actually a fact check to be false by the Washington Post. 302 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:43,480 You had the entire left apparatus attack it so much so, 303 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,880 so much so that Major League Baseball move their All 304 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,960 Star Game out of the city of Atlanta. That was 305 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,359 the level of hype about that bill. Of course, it passed, 306 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:57,599 and now we've run two elections under the laws as 307 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,720 passed by the election integrity bill in Georgia. Well, wouldn't 308 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,519 it be a great moment in time to look back 309 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,599 and to say, well, how did it work? 310 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: Well? 311 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: In fact, there was a study after the twenty twenty 312 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,119 two election the mid term. The University of Georgia put 313 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,720 forward a massive study analyzing the impact of that legislation 314 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:18,319 and what did it fine, And if you haven't heard 315 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,000 about it, there's a reason that the left media didn't 316 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,119 want to tell you about it, because the study actually 317 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,680 showed Matt that people were across the board positive about 318 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,400 how the election was run after they put in place 319 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:34,359 election integrity legislation, and in fact, that was true across 320 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,440 all key demographic groups, which is important. It was positive 321 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:42,880 for whites, for blacks, for Asians, Hispanics, women, veterans, and 322 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,880 that's a good thing. We want to pass election integrity 323 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,039 legislation that has universal support and when it actually is 324 00:19:50,079 --> 00:19:53,400 implemented and done, that's what we see time and again. 325 00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:56,880 Yet we still see the left fighting tooth and nail 326 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,200 for even basic, common sense election integery reforms like photo ID, 327 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:05,240 which makes absolutely no sense when you look at the 328 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:09,000 empirical data. But that's what we're up against. The radical 329 00:20:09,079 --> 00:20:11,640 left doesn't want to put in place even basic reforms, 330 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,880 let alone the substantive reform that is needed to make 331 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,880 sure that every American has confidence in our elections. 332 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: Indeed, look at the Save Act. We'll get into that 333 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,240 in just a moment. Our guest today is Representative Brian Style, 334 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,200 representing Wisconsin's first congressional district. He's also chairman of the 335 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,720 House Administration Committee. The committee, as we've talked about, has 336 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:36,880 and will play a key role in government accountability, particularly 337 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,359 as it relates to the topic right now elections and 338 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:44,480 election integrity. Yeah, I wanted to talk to you more 339 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:47,359 about that because I see in your home state, in Wisconsin, 340 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,480 a key swing state that was critical to the election 341 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:57,519 of Donald Trump both in two thousand and sixteen and 342 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:03,200 now again in two thy twenty before, you have Democrats 343 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,960 there trying to push a lot of phony ideas and 344 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,079 trying to bring back legislation that would get rid of 345 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:19,960 the successful voter identification law in the state of Wisconsin 346 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:22,880 that's been on the books for several years. Now, what 347 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,519 do you think about this charge After all that we've 348 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:29,920 experienced in the state of Wisconsin and across the country 349 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,440 about the success of voter id. 350 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,839 Speaker 2: It's absolutely ridiculous what we're seeing the radical left do 351 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:39,160 in this regard. It is as if they have an 352 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,720 objective to actually gut Americans confidence in our elections. Sometimes, 353 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:45,680 the way that I think about this map from a 354 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,880 picture standpoint is, if you've ever gone to a casino 355 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,400 and played blackjack, the casino has put in place rules 356 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,839 of the road that actually it's still confidence in you 357 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,400 in the game itself, that you're being treated fairly, as 358 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,880 you know if youre going to at the end of 359 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,359 the day, you're going to lose money, but you actually 360 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,279 know you're doing. 361 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: It above board. 362 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Right, they allow you play blackjack, who flips their cards 363 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,200 first the dealer, then you flip your cards immediately following. 364 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,279 There's cameras on the table. Right, if you went outside 365 00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:18,799 the casino and there's a gentleman sitting on the street 366 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:21,160 corner with a little table and offered to play cards 367 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,440 with you, even if that person was the Pope, you 368 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,880 wouldn't probably feel very good about how that blackjack game 369 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,720 was gonna go because you're pretty sure he's got a 370 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:32,599 card up his sleeve. He's going to make you flip 371 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,440 your cards over first. You want to have confidence in 372 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,079 the system, and photo ID is one of those key 373 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,559 principles of confidence in the system that makes everyone walk 374 00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:46,720 in and say, you know they're checking everyone's ID. They 375 00:22:46,759 --> 00:22:50,000 know that everyone coming in is who they say they are. 376 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,319 We're not going to operate on a trust basis. We're 377 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,720 going to trust, but verify who that individual is. What 378 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:01,359 the radical left wants to do is gut that system out, 379 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:04,720 and in so doing, what it does is to remove 380 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,359 your confidence that you are being treated fairly, that your 381 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:11,440 legal vote is going to count, that no illegal votes 382 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,440 are going to enter the system. And when we come 383 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,759 forward as Republicans, as conservatives, that people that believe in 384 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:23,480 election integrity, and we put forward legislation that says, here's 385 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:26,279 a problem in the system, and this is the reform 386 00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:30,599 that's needed to tighten it down to strengthen Americans confidence 387 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,000 in our elections. What we see time and again is 388 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,519 the radical left pushing back against that rather than saying, yeah, 389 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,559 that is a reform that we should all be able 390 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,200 to stand behind. Photo ID is the most obvious example 391 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,119 of that. Wisconsin put that in place. It increased Americans 392 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,759 confidence in our elections. Voters in Wisconsin understand it, voters 393 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:51,319 in Wisconsin like it. And one of the things I'm 394 00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:55,920 concerned about, there's an upcoming for our national listeners. There's 395 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,319 an upcoming state Supreme court race in the state of Wisconsin, 396 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,079 where clearly whether or not photo idea is going to 397 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,079 be allowed or be thrown out by what would be 398 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,799 an illegitimate Supreme Court ruling, but a Supreme Court ruling 399 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,920 by the radical left is truly and subsequently on the 400 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,079 table and something we're going to have to bird dog, 401 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,319 both at the state level and in particular my committee 402 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:19,079 at the federal level. 403 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is alarming, and it tells you exactly what 404 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:27,240 money can buy in our judicial system in America today. 405 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:31,480 Of course, in twenty twenty three, Wisconsin had set the 406 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:37,400 record for the most expensive court election judicial race in 407 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,160 the history of the country, not just the state. Millions 408 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,920 upon millions of dollars poured into that race, and now 409 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,640 they have another one. In twenty twenty three. That election 410 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:52,200 determined the liberal majority that now controls the Court. And 411 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:58,480 that's why you see just you know, basic reforms that 412 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,960 so many Wisconsin Nights supported now on the line, including 413 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:09,440 Act ten, reforms to the collective bargaining at the state 414 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,799 to public sector, and then a voter i D of 415 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:15,960 course also on the line. Now you have an election 416 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,440 coming up in early April and Wisconsin that could flip 417 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,640 that court back to a conservative control, and it just 418 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,960 tells you just how significant these local state elections are 419 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,920 yet how so few people are involved in them. On 420 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:38,880 the election integrity front, I mentioned before the Save Act, 421 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:46,440 which is talk about basic protections for election integrity. All 422 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:51,559 that it asks is that if you are going to 423 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,519 register to vote, you show proof that you are a 424 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,880 US citizen. That's basically the core of the Save Act. 425 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:05,119 You passed it in the House and it died in 426 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,440 the Senate. That has to show you exactly where the 427 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:15,640 left in Congress is in America today. Do you expect 428 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,039 the Save Act to come back and what are its prospects. 429 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: I think we have an opportunity to move forward on 430 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,559 the House side, both the Save Act and the AS Act. 431 00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: The ACE is the. 432 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,039 Speaker 2: Broader, comprehensive election intigrity legislation that I brought forward. The 433 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,920 Save Act is a piece of that specifically focused on 434 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,960 preventing non citizens from voting in US elections. Both incredibly 435 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,240 important pieces of legislation. Here's the challenge we face in 436 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:42,799 the House. 437 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: We have a. 438 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,519 Speaker 2: Narrow majority, but we have a majority, and at the 439 00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:48,279 end of the day, I'm confident that we're going to 440 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,519 be able to get our election integrity legislation across the 441 00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:55,000 line our friends across the other side of the capitol 442 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,359 here in Washington, d C. That's the United States Senate, 443 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,880 and they operate right under some goofy rules, in my opinion, 444 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720 one of which requires a sixty vote threshold to get 445 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:09,200 almost anything done. That sixty vote threshold is a real 446 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,319 logjam when Republicans have fifty three of one hundred votes, 447 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,359 and so whether or not that legislation is going to 448 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,200 move forward across that threshold, I don't have full visibility 449 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,119 as to how now Leader Soon is going to make 450 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,079 those play calls. But here's one opportunity is at least, 451 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440 at a minimum, bring it to a vote. What we 452 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,079 saw is under Democratic leadership, they just let it sit 453 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,759 on the table and never put anyone on the record. 454 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,759 At an absolute minimum, absolute minimum, you'd have a vote, 455 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,759 and the American voters that would know where their Democratic 456 00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,839 senators stand on the issue of election integrity, and a 457 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,599 best case scenario, we would see it like I think 458 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,720 the Lake and Riley Act, where the American public will 459 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,799 say that is such an obvious common sense reform that 460 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,279 we need to put in place. Let's get it done. 461 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:03,319 You may Senator's cave and actually work to implement some 462 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,200 of these election reforms and go and actually get sixty 463 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,079 votes in the Senate. However the Senate's going to play out. 464 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,279 I'm a House guy. I'm focused on the House. We 465 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:17,400 are ready to go. Navigating that through the United States Senate. 466 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,200 That's another animal. But this is such an important topic, 467 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:24,759 match so critical to American people, to our democracy, to 468 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,160 American's confidence in voting, that I think we need to 469 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:30,839 work and navigate how to get that done in the 470 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,839 United States Senate. 471 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: Well, I hope that the United States Senate, the leadership 472 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,359 there will note the COVA movement in America. So citizens 473 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,680 only voting amendments pass be approved by voters in eight states, 474 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,880 including battle ground Wisconsin in the last election. There is 475 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,359 very very strong support in America for only US citizens 476 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:03,319 voting in USA selections, and so that should be I 477 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,960 would think, would that not be a roadmap to move 478 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,160 at least a few Democrats along the way in the Senate? 479 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,599 Speaker 2: It absolutely should. And that's what I mean when I 480 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,599 say I think Senator Toom when we move this legislation 481 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000 in the House, to bring it before the Senate, enforce 482 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:24,400 it to a vote, because if we can get the 483 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,200 attention to American people on this topic and show how 484 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,039 common sense and logical these reforms are, such as American 485 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,480 citizens should be the only people who can vote in 486 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,400 American elections, or that you need a photo ID to vote. 487 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,880 These are common sense things to almost everybody listening to 488 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680 the podcast or anybody you'd talk to in line to 489 00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,400 check out at the grocery store. And so what we 490 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,039 need to do is build the momentum for this and 491 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:53,960 when it comes to the Senate, get. 492 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:55,599 Speaker 1: It either a across the. 493 00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,079 Speaker 2: Line with fifty votes and to heck with the filibuster, 494 00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:02,119 or B get the mentum such that sixty votes come 495 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,359 across the line in the United States Senate. Because these 496 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:07,559 are necessary, but there are also in many ways common sense. 497 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: Cutting the deficit seems simple, it's just not easy. The 498 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,599 watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski every day. 499 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,640 Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy 500 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,880 and how it affects your wallet. Like dieting or saving money, 501 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,119 Cutting the deficit is simple, it's just not easy. Cutting 502 00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:30,319 the deficit is not so much about cutting personnel, it's 503 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,400 about cutting the money they hand out, whether it's happening 504 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960 in DC or down on Wall Street. It's affecting you financially. 505 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,519 Speaker 1: Be informed. 506 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: Check out the Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with 507 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,799 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 508 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Another common sense area I want to talk about, and 509 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,799 you mentioned it before, it is what you have been 510 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:54,000 working on for some time now in as chair of 511 00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:57,680 the House Administration Committee. This whole situation with Act Blue, 512 00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:04,279 which again is the Democrat at left platform for campaign 513 00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:08,519 fund raising, and they have generated billions upon billions of 514 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,680 dollars over their existence, and there are very serious concerns 515 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,519 about foreign interference through those channels. There are some serious 516 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:21,279 allegations about Act Blue. You've talked about some of the 517 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:23,720 things that you have dealt with with the committee, some 518 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,519 of the legislation response. You had said before the end 519 00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:32,839 of the year that just this is basically the big beginning, 520 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,319 and so did Speaker Johnson on this that there will 521 00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:40,920 be more investigations into Act Blue. What's next on that front, Well. 522 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: These allegations came forward, foreign interference, people who are being 523 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,119 notified that they donations are being made in their name. 524 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,480 We began our investigation now over a year ago into 525 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,960 online fund raising platforms, including a Blue, and said, what's 526 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,319 going on. I was at that period of time that 527 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,839 we actually discoss or the lack of very basic financial 528 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:08,039 security controls even existing at act Blue. Earlier reference that 529 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:11,039 they weren't requiring a CVV number. Again, that's that three 530 00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:12,759 or four digit code on the back of your credit 531 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,559 card from being needed when an individual is making an 532 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:21,839 online contribution. That's kind of entry level credit card security 533 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,079 that is required by almost anything you do online. They 534 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,960 were accepting prepaid cards. And what we've actually seen through 535 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,920 documents that we've subpoenat, in particular from Act Blue, is 536 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,119 that Act Blue was changing their policies as we were 537 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,279 identifying and asking questions about the financial security weaknesses. So, 538 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,759 for example, after we started asking questions about why they 539 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,359 weren't using a CVV number, internal policy at act Blue 540 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,200 change and now Act Blue requires a CVV number, we 541 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,759 started asking questions about why they were accepting prepaid gift 542 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:03,920 cards from foreign entities. Well, when we started asking that 543 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,640 foreign funded when we started asking that question, Act Blue 544 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,559 changed their policy. Interestingly, they changed their policy more or 545 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,240 less on the same day I introduced my legislation to 546 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,079 force the change, meaning they realized that they needed to 547 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,960 do this, that this was a good idea, but nobody 548 00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,759 was forcing them to do it until our investigation got 549 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,839 under way. Our investigation is going to continue. We need 550 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:34,519 to make sure that Americans have confidence that money inside 551 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,160 US elections is only from American and legal sources, not 552 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,119 from foreign sources, not from illegal sources. Americans need to 553 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:45,359 have that level of confidence. And we need to make 554 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,240 sure that online contribution portals and campaign operations are not 555 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:54,119 engaged in behavior where even basic security protocols are not 556 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,759 being followed. 557 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: Indeed, and I think Americans need to have assurances that 558 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,839 Act Blue is doing what it claims it is doing. 559 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200 As you mentioned, they changed all of this, as you know, 560 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,159 you're forwarding legislation that would compel them to do so. 561 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,960 But we find out through open records that they're making 562 00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:16,760 claims that they've changed this stuff, you know, in the 563 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,920 I don't know, Midsummer At some point they hadn't changed 564 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,840 that policy really, or some of these policies that they 565 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:31,920 had internally, these these election or these security issues didn't 566 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,960 change them until once again, legislation was about to force 567 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,320 them to. 568 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: So you're right, it was in September of twenty twenty 569 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,280 four that they finally implement an updated policies to automatically 570 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,760 reject donations they use foreign prepaid gift cards, domestic gift cards, 571 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,599 or from other high risk sanctioned countries that are determined 572 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,400 to be at a high risk level. Well, holy smokes, 573 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:01,199 they weren't automatically doing that before until our investigatoration showed 574 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,360 that to be a problem. This is why our investigation 575 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,599 has been so absolutely essential and why the team at 576 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:10,760 the Committee on House Administration that I work with day 577 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,280 in and day out, the diligent work that these young 578 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,519 men and women are doing is so absolutely essential because 579 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:21,519 it is actually changing how these companies are operating and 580 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:26,400 actually preventing them from taking actions that are absolutely ridiculous 581 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,559 until we shine a light on it. 582 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:34,599 Speaker 1: How much of that played into the massive record shattering 583 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:41,679 donations that candidate Joy and vibes Kamala Harris took in 584 00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:45,239 in the first day and in the first few weeks 585 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,559 of her campaign when when she replaced Joe Biden on 586 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:50,599 the on the ballot. 587 00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: What we have visibility into Matt is that they had 588 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,119 lack financial protocols in place. My investigation continues and to 589 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,519 determine were those vulnerabilities being utilized at scale. So it's 590 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,719 kind of like discovering that nobody was watching the cookie jar, 591 00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:09,920 and then you're trying to figure out how many cookies 592 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,840 were taken out of the jar, but nobody was watching. 593 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,639 And so what I'm saying is, Adam is on the 594 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,920 legislative side, Let's make sure that we put the protocols 595 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,840 in place so that we never have this problem again. 596 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,440 Let's not only seal the cookie jar, Let's put some 597 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,119 locks on it. Let's throw a camera on it. Let's 598 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,360 prevent anybody from coming into the kitchen. Separate of that. 599 00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:34,880 Now that we have a Trump Department of Justice, hopefully 600 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,519 under Pambondi very soon, then the executive branch is in 601 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:43,519 a position to actually engage in criminal prosecutions if they 602 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,320 identify individuals that engaged in a legal behavior. And so 603 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,440 it's a bifurcation now that we have a Trump administration, 604 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,480 it's a bifurcation for judicial prosecution to be correctly located 605 00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:58,760 at a now upcoming very soon conservative Trump run Department 606 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,519 of Justice, and then and the legislative branch to legislate 607 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,800 and actually put the laws in place to prevent this 608 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,360 type of activity from ever occurring again in the future. 609 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,119 Speaker 1: We have the Federalist will be watching both tracks very closely. 610 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,320 Of course, just a few minutes left, but I did 611 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,320 want to get to this as a final point. The 612 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,360 US House of Representatives on Monday past legislation to create 613 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,559 a Congressional time capsule to mark the two hundred and 614 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,440 fiftieth anniversary of the United States. It's hard to believe 615 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:36,599 this glorious republic is about to celebrate a quarter millennium 616 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,840 birthday next year. I know a lot of plans are underway, 617 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,000 but tell us a little bit more about the time capsule. 618 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:49,360 Will it include Adam Schiff's integrity, because so far we've 619 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,599 struggled to find that to put anywhere. 620 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,199 Speaker 2: I was not expecting this to be our final question, Matp, 621 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,079 that's a great question. 622 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: Job. 623 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: So in the time capsule in Congress, you do these 624 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,559 big transformative bills, right, tax reform, border security, and then 625 00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,639 on occasion you real small ball stuff. One of them 626 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,000 is correctly known as the Congressional time capsule. And so 627 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,639 we're going to put in place a time capsule on 628 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,320 the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States. 629 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,719 Of America coming up in twenty twenty six and put 630 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 in place a whole host of items. I don't know 631 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,840 what's going to be on that, but maybe what I 632 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,760 should do is crowdsource this on social media and ask 633 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,079 people's suggestions of what we should or should not include. 634 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,679 And I will start with your suggestion as it relates 635 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,800 to mister Schiff. 636 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: Please do I think we need to launch a congressional 637 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,360 investigation for a lot of reasons into Adam Shift, but 638 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,559 also to find where his integrity has been hiding all 639 00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:47,880 of these years. And if we do uncover where that 640 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,039 integrity is, let's place that in the time capsule. That'll 641 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,800 be very nice. You know, there are so many different 642 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,400 things we could put in there over the years, from 643 00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:02,159 Congress to you know, and then also celebrate these times. 644 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:04,960 But any ideas that you have at this point and 645 00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,480 what you would like to see in that time capsule. 646 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't actually put enough thoughts of what should 647 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,800 go in. I know it's coming up in about a 648 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,480 year and a half, but maybe an explanation on pets 649 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,400 dot com and ask jeeves I would really help some 650 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,519 people who are already probably struggling on this podcast. I 651 00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,559 understand what that is, but we'll help them out a 652 00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:25,400 tw hundred and fifty years from today when it's open. 653 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,559 Speaker 1: That's right, and why while you're doing that, you could 654 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:35,920 solicit suggestions for the time capsule on MySpace and see 655 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,119 if friends friends dot com see if you get any 656 00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:44,000 action on that front well. As always a great pleasure 657 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,960 talking to you, sir. I've known you for a long 658 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:51,679 time covering Wisconsin politics and of course congressional politics is 659 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,199 You've been a member of Congress for several years, representing 660 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,440 a great part of the great state of Wisconsin. I 661 00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,679 wish you all the best moving forward in this session 662 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,880 on getting the real business of the people accomplished. You 663 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,320 have the majorities in Congress to do that. Now let's 664 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,119 see what happens. Thanks, Matt, have a great day. Absolutely 665 00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:18,239 our guest today on this edition of the Federalist Radio 666 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,639 Hour Representative Brian Style, who serves as Chairman of the 667 00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:27,280 House Committee on Administration. You've been listening to another edition 668 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,559 of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections 669 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,960 correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. 670 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,920 Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame. 671 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:55,800 Hear the fameboys reason and then away