Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another Geek First episode.
Speaker 2: This time around, we're I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say celebrating, I guess we can say that
we're celebrating some news here at GV six forty seven.
Speaker 3: The Daredevil trailer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a special time, our first trailer dropped. But
I'm one of your hosts, the chef of Hell's Kitchen,
Kirklin Patzer.
Speaker 3: I am Cupid with a kink. Dylan muss Oh, I
like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, As we kind of already revealed,
we're going to be talking about the freshly dropped Daredevil
Born Again trailer and a couple other things that we'll
mention as well, some trailers, So before we get into that,
just a couple of plugs. So far in January, we've
it's kind of been quiet after the super busy month
that we had in December. I say that even though
there is still many reviews dropping. Taylor and I have
Skeleton Crew finale dropping this week, Dexter reviews. Not quite
time for the finale, but we're in the back half
of that season. Reviews for there Creature Commandos. We wrapped
up that series last week as well as I guess
that's kind of the only other shows that we got
right now. I've been going actually, never mind, I'll hold
onto that until we get into a what we've been
watching the section?
Speaker 2: But what else is happening this week? Folks?
Speaker 1: We got a Wolfman dropping actually this week, so it's happened. Yeah,
well it's happening, whether it's just Taylor Field or Taylor
Field and I. We haven't spoke that man is still
out of the country, so we haven't solidified a recording
time on that. But yeah, no, it's you know, it's
got lots of lots of stuff that we dropped over
in December, and plenty of things that are going to
be coming here on the horizon. Of course, the best
place to support us is on our Patreon, where you
can get everything early ad free exclusive. We got a
bunch of retros releasing early on there. Taylor and I
got some Daredevil retros in the works right now, cooking
just perfect timing exactly, so yeah.
Speaker 2: I oh yeah. Patron producers.
Speaker 1: Of course, we have different tiers, So at our highest
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Speaker 3: You got downgrade from the great? Hey, No, he's just good.
Speaker 2: Did I say the good?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I believe when Taylor says that, he
just says God loves Me sixty nine.
Speaker 2: He was in saye the I love the acron.
Speaker 3: Six nine.
Speaker 1: It's too much for my brain to process. Yeah, it's
a tongue twister. But yes, we appreciate each and every
one of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a pretty pretty solid plug there.
So before we.
Speaker 1: Get into the juicy trailer that dropped, uh Dylan Muss,
if you've been watching anything spicy or not spicy.
Speaker 3: Lately, I've not been watching a lot. I've just been
just been gaming a lot. You're hearing all that on
side quest I. Yeah, if anyone hasn't listened yet, or
if you're not on that tier, it's a good time
to jump up on Patreon check out the January edition
of Bread and Butter, where we had multiple topics. But
that's where I did like a massive blow and I
watched a ton of things over the holidays, like fifteen
different movies or something like a bunch of twenty twenty
four things. And I talked about all of those on
Bread and Butter, So if you want to hear those thoughts,
go there. But other than that, nothing really much. I'll
just quickly share with my latest YouTube, rabbit Hole, because
I watch more YouTube than I watched like shows or
movies on a typical basis, and YouTube it knows me
so well, knows me better than I know myself. It's
given me all sorts of great recommendations for things I
didn't even know exist and then I just love. And
the recent one is that it's been feeding me a
bunch of like tournament scrabble videos, like like scrabble pros
like breaking down like iconic games and iconic players and stuff. Okay,
and it's just it's just hilarious too because it's like
it's scrap. But it's like, yeah, people are as indo
scrabble as I am into melee or any you know whatever,
think about your most passionate hobby. People are into scrabble
in that way, and the way they talk about the
game break it down is really interesting. U. Like there's
a I remember seeing like just a thing on reddit
that's been floating around and these videos have been breaking
it down, is that there's the one guy who's considered
like the goat, like the greatest grabble player ever. He
you know, he he's from like New Zealand. One all
these tournaments and stuff, and then he learned the entire
French dictionary and then like one a French championship. Like
he doesn't speak a word of it, but he's learned
the dictionary. And then he went and learned the Spanish dictionary,
and then one like a Spanish tournament. It's just like
somebody's in the same amount of brain memory power and
just like mixed with scrabble skill in terms of where
to place things and whatnot. So that's what I've been watching.
I've been watching a shit tony scrabble videos. It's great
to fall asleep too, or to make you alert, Like
I don't know, these videos have been even keeping me
company company, So that's funny watching.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: You reminded me of like when I first discovered that
there's like competitive Settlers of Catan, and it just it
blew my mind because like, yeah, there's strategy to that game,
but I feel like a lot of it is actually
like RNG, A lot of it's based on like dice
rolls and stuff.
Speaker 3: But like I wonder what the trading would be like in.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, exactly, Like like you would really have to
be playing like three D chess or I guess for
D chess, right, chess is three D chess, but uh,
to just get up like over your components opponents, And I.
Speaker 3: YouTube Catan tournament videos pro things. I'm sure there's some
good like video essays people have done.
Speaker 1: But like you said, like like pretty much anything, I'm
sure there's people that just take it like super seriously
in any level of different type of tabletop game.
Speaker 2: Uh. What was that one zombie one uh that you
had mentioned on our quest episode?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dead of Winter.
Speaker 2: Dead of Winter.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure there's some competitive Dead of Winter players
out there. It's probably pretty niche. But in terms of
what I've been watching, pretty much only been watching Tarror
Deevil right now, and I don't really want to talk
about that too much, just because Taylor and I are
doing those retrospectives. So I finished season two today, so
I'm very excited to sit down once Taylor's back in
the country. We're gonna be recording that next episode in
that retro.
Speaker 3: Series Patreon, like next week sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you got it.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, No, I'm gonna say my thoughts all
for that episode, but I'll I'll just say I'm loving
it that the show is just so fantastic and just
perfect timing with this trailer review release because I'm just
I feel like I'm so hyped on so many aspects
of the Daredevil world, not just the character Daredevil or
like Charlie Cox's performance, but the characters around him and
just just that world in general. Like it's just got
a certain dark tone to it, and I'm really really
vibing with the I'm really digging it. So yeah, has
it got a little bit spoiled in this trailer because
I'm not done season three, But yeah, it's so minor,
and I feel like it's something that I it's just
so I don't know it would be a big moment.
I'm sure when it happens in the show, but like,
I don't know, it's it's something I kind of assumed
was it was going to be revealed anyways, But.
Speaker 3: Does it make you want to go watch the other Marvel, Netflix,
things like do you think after you're done you're gonna
go through and watch some or all of those?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: It definitely did, just because I feel like this season
in particular, they mentioned like a lot more of that stuff. Obviously,
Season two is when Punisher is is introduced into the show,
and I had already seen I think most of Punisher least,
I think that one was only one. Okay, then I've
seen majority of the first season, so I guess not
that much of the show. But Jessica Jones I had
never seen. She's mentioned briefly, so and then what was
some other one iron Fish, which.
Speaker 3: Was like the Avengers version of it?
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, so I feel like, yes, it it tickles
my interest, for lack of a better term, But that's
also pretty big commitment because all those shows are like
one hour long episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so much to.
Speaker 1: Be watching and doing these these days. But so that's
kind of been the only thing I have been watching
right now. So it's kind of a cheat answer, and
I'm not going to answer it right now. Go check
out the Patreon for that. Of course, it will be
revealed you know, later on on the on the public feeds,
but new time. Yeah, I'm excited to talk to Taylor
about that.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's short and sweet what we've been watching.
Speaker 1: So without further ado, we're gonna jump into our main topic,
which of course is the Daredevil trailer. We'll pull it
up and have it going. Uh just to pinpoint some
things that maybe we are forgetting about.
Speaker 2: But what did you think about this trailer?
Speaker 1: Of course, this is like the first look at seeing
what they're going to be doing with this returning character.
And uh, yeah, it starts with him sitting down Well
I guess it doesn't start with that, but him sitting
down with mister Fisk, which of course they've been adversarious
throughout much of their experience together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, overall, I think it's great. I mean, one, it's
it's just tickling like the new nostalgia a little bit
by showing all these characters, and even if they have
a minor role like your Karen's and Foggies, just the
fact that they're in here at all is an exciting thing.
And then obviously the bigger ones where feels like Punisher
and Kingpin are well, Kingpin's obviously can be a huge
part of it. I don't know how big of a
deal Punisher will be in it, but based on some
of the rumors we have for later in the episode,
who knows, maybe they're trying to tee up Punisher for
a big return. Overall, I think it's a great trailer.
Like the tone of it, the visuals, the dialogue and
all that. It feels in line with the Marvel Netflix thing.
It doesn't feel like it's been Disney marvel ified. And
we'll see how much that ends up being the case.
You know, there's some brutal things going on here. I
forget what the rating is of this, like comparatively to
I believe it, but yeah, I think it's like because
I think that might be different for TV ratings, right,
but like whatever that equivalent would be. I think the
one thing that I didn't love about this trailer, and
I can't tell if it's a bit of a decoy
or even just a bit of like a trailer thing
you'd have in a trailer, there is kind of this
conversation around Daredevil. He's he's he's in retirement. He's got
to come back out of retirement, because if that is, like,
what the where the season starts and we actually get
a few episodes like without him in the suit and
he's yeah, tvm. There, that's the equivalent if we get
like a few episodes of him like I think I've
quit this old life, but then I'm like, I'm gonna
pick it. Like we obviously know he's coming back. We
see in the trailer that he is fighting, and we've
also seen him in the MCU recently, so it would
just that would seem like an odd storyline to me.
But I can't tell if that's just like a decoy
he's telling Kingpin so that Kingpin's not suspicious of him,
we're not not as worried about him, or maybe there's
some other just misdirection, red herring stuff going on there.
But that's the one thing where it's like, I don't
want to spend half this season of Matt being like, oh, yeah,
I've given it up. I've given up the billy clubs.
I'm not using those anymore. I think that would be
a real drag. And I guess, like, because I'm trying
to remember now because this show is originally much many
episodes longer, and I think they eventually split. Now we're
officially getting two seasons. Maybe I'm misremembering that, and so
either way, it sounds like we're gonna get a lot
of him in this series and hopefully more to come
down the line and crossovers of other characters and bring
him into the other greater MCU stuff. So I think
that's my only I won't even call it a worry point.
That's just one thing that stuck out to me that
I'm a little a little bit fishy of. But everything
else I think looks really great. So really excited for
this to come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says eighteen episodes split across two seasons, so
June nine episode seasons there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like this trailer. I think the biggest
surprise for me.
Speaker 1: Was the fact of like how similar it reminds me
of the show, even like just Charlie Cox's performance of
the character.
Speaker 2: I wasn't super familiar with.
Speaker 1: It, like when we had him introduced in the MCU,
like whether it's Spider Man No Way Home or his
appearance in Echo almost keep forgetting that show came out
as well as she Hulk, But like just seeing him
sit down with Wilt like mister fisk I was just
man like, this is like it's as if they recorded
this season, like right after the original show, Like he's
just able to pick right back up in that in
that character and just do such a great job. And yeah,
I just really really like Charlie Cox in that role.
And yeah, it just seems like the whole tone they
just really were able to capture the same vibe of
what that Marvel Netflix show was able to do, but
still kind of flavor it differently. Like I don't know
if it was just part of me just just the
score in this trailer, but it felt very like halloweeny
in a certain way, I don't know, just like fright
night e. Especially when it came up with like the credits,
just the way that Daredevil is, like the font that
they chose, it's just a little bit different than what
the Marvel Netflix was. So I do like the little
extra flair that they have, So yeah, I like the
tone of that and just seeing a bunch of familiar
faces here through off, just seeing Foggy with short hair
because of course we're on the show, he's got long hair, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly,
so uh yeah, no, it's it's cool, of course. You know,
there's a couple of things revealed here. It's like, yeah,
you gave up the vigilante life. I'm like, fuck, I
just finished season two, he's still a vangilante. So that's
a bit of a spoiler there then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but once again, like is that just misdirection with
Kingpin to some extent because he's been out of New York,
Like we in MCU, we've seen that he's traveled to
because she Hulk is in l A, right, and then
Echo was in like Midwest or something, So obviously he's
been like out of town a little bit. Now those
could have been like pretty much weekend trips for how
much he was in there. But then we also saw
on Spider Man he was kicking around doing lawyer stuff.
So yeah, but like we didn't see him as Daredevil
in NewYork. In New York, we just saw him as
as Matt Murdoch, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: No, it's like he hasn't shown the cowl. Do you
call it a cowl? The mask isn't a mask, Yeah,
I don't know. It's in the it's in the in
between gray area. I guess we haven't seen that version
of him in New York in a long time. Kingpin
hasn't either, I mean he was even messing stuff up
in Hawkeye, Kingpin was around and Matt Murdock didn't do
shit all to help him. Presumably he was right around
the corner. So yeah, he's in the Midwest somewhere.
Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe I guess then the bigger surprise would have
been me just or sorry for me, would have been
Fisk knowing that he was Daredevil, because.
Speaker 3: That's not okay, it hasn't been showed yet.
Speaker 1: Like it's one of those things. Was like, well, I
kind of assumed that was going to be the case
at some point. Yeah, Fisky is just such a big
character and uh, you know, smaller role in season two
of that show, but definitely he's he's growing and spawning
more units as the RTS term would go.
Speaker 3: So I love this question from super Bad Mike in
the chat. Do you guys think the show will acknowledge
Matt being in she Hulk or mostly ignore it or
I guess that we could extend that out to Echo
as well. Maybe maybe Mike, yeah, Echo as well. That's
because I don't think she will be in this No,
and I don't really know, like maybe we got to
throw away line of like he talks about a fling
he had when he was out in la or something. Yeah,
but I don't think we get like a she Hulk mentioned.
I'll say that, like, we won't get the word she
hulk or or what's Jennifer Walter's right, I don't think
we'll get that name right or anything. At most a
cheeky little joke, and I think that's that's the maximum
of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like the show, especially just judging off of
the first trailer, it really feels like we're sticking in
that same playing field of what the Marvel Netflix show was.
And I'm not saying like it's just gonna be as
if we're jumping back in that universe, but just kind
of playing with the pieces that we have, kind of
that was shown here in the trailer, Like, I don't
think there'll be too many surprises of just different characters
throughout the MCU being thrown into this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about what I'm okay with that? What do
you think about Echo more specifically then, because that's actually
a character that is kind of a tie between for
Kingpinn and for Daredevil, Like, is that would that come
up at all? Would that be relevant?
Speaker 1: I guess so like it's a higher chance than she Hulk,
just because there's an attachment there, of course to Kingpin,
that character that's already been shown in this trailer here,
So I would probably lean a little bit heavier if
I would have had to choose one or the other.
I also feel like, because I don't know, I just
don't really see where Echo is going to be appearing next.
So if we want to have her somewhere, maybe this
is the most appropriate place for her.
Speaker 2: And she seems like she's.
Speaker 1: Like the power set or power level of what her
character is would fit pretty well with what this show is.
So yeah, I didn't really think about it at the time,
but now that you mention it, Yeah, I could perhaps
see her in there, but even then, not the highest chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know what what would be
said because he had a pretty negligible role in Echo,
like he just kind.
Speaker 2: Of kicked ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we kick this trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get it going.
Speaker 3: Hit the wrong button.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming there's gonna be some amazing fight choreography choreography.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that looks like it almost could be another hallway scene.
Speaker 2: They love their hallway scenes and just killer lighting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, this is such a fun This is gonna
be a fun scene even though we're seeing presumably a
lot of it here. Yeah, just uh, Matt and Kingpin
across from each other diner having a.
Speaker 1: Little that that diner too, Uh, just where I was
at in season two, like that Frank Castle and Karen
like have a scene or two, like sitting at those
tables like in that dome. Okay, maybe I'm mistaken, but
it looks like the exact same diner. So it was
just kind of cool to see that. Of course, I
like just recently watched that, so it was fresh in
my mind.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like these classic three they're also happy and
they don't know what's about to happen. It sounds like
they look good mm hmm yeah, yeah, which you know,
we already knew about that, but it's cool to see
some of it.
Speaker 1: I feel like he looks smaller than he does in
the other Daredevil show, Like just his body mass is
down a couple percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe dono Frio has been a diet over here.
Speaker 1: It's because he's wearing like darker colors, you know, black
as slimming as they say, right, could be cool lighting shots, Yeah,
what do you think.
Speaker 3: It's going on here with Matt Murdoch getting beat up
in Matt Murdoch mode, like who sent these these goons
to his apartment? Because this isn't like something like he's
went to do a job and then yeah, got caught
off guard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I because I feel like this show isn't gonna
be like how the other show is of like balancing
like Matt Murdoch the lawyer and Daredevil. Like to me
have thought going into it it would be pretty much
just Daredevil like majority of the time. But seeing a
scene like that makes me think that actually he maybe
he is working cases and then like the little bit,
I don't know, he gets too close to some bad guys.
But yeah, I don't know for a nine episode show,
I I just again like I I don't want to
spend too much time just doing the lawyer lawyer things,
even though I do like it in that original show.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just want to see more of a Daredevil
side of the of that show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because even like this building is in doesn't look
like a dingy like villain layer where he's like going
here and.
Speaker 1: Just didn't have the suit or something. So yeah, thoughts
about these so the colored but like, Las, do you
know who this guy is? I do not know who
this is?
Speaker 3: I think so, but I won't. Okay, got a little
bank robber going on here. The devil's work is never done,
I like it, got a little sex scene in the shower. Also,
who was he dancing with here? Was that a known person? Uh?
I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't recognize this person that he's dancing with. It's
funny because to me, I just see, like, what's her name?
The lady that plays like the other Electra, Yeah, Jennifer Gardner.
But when I first saw her, that's what my mind was.
I'm like, what the hell are we doing here? But no,
definitely not her. I don't know because at first I
thought it would have been Vanessa maybe too, But.
Speaker 3: And it is that the same lady here in the
shower with him. I can't. This almost could be Karen.
I don't even know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mind thought it was the same lady. I've
also never seen Matt like wear like a chain like that.
Oh there's Vanessa, Okay.
Speaker 3: The chain, I missed it.
Speaker 1: In the shower, he's like got some bling on, oh okay,
And she doesn't seem like a mad Murdock thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this is the character. I believe it's
called Muse.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hard eyes when I saw it.
Speaker 3: Be hard. I can't tell it. I guess it's like
a bag. It almost looks like skim but it's like
a bag with some red, some red dripping down. I
don't know anything about this character. That's gonna be a
first for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same here. Yeah, creepy look.
Speaker 1: And we got punisher beard and everything bearded castle that
probably is across the necklace. Yeah, with the hatchet, very
long dark look to him.
Speaker 2: Looks like a long dark character. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then you know the classic ambiguous like does he
actually swing the accent man? But it's like no, he
just sticks into the log that's where he kills. Yeah,
that shot there, nice transition here in the editor, by
the way, accident into like the explosion of the building.
Speaker 2: So this would be at that same bank robbery.
Speaker 1: I would imagine, Okay, we got some guy here, I
don't know who he is.
Speaker 2: What a hooded characters?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that looks brutally glass in the eye.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's some brutal shots in here. And even
just going through that show, I'm like man, they get
to levels. M so we get the different cows.
Speaker 3: Five mask variants mm hmmm, two red ones that look
almost identical, gold, silver back. Do you think we'll see
him use all five of these or is this more
just like a fun no silver Daredevil suit that could
be interesting or do you think would probably just be
silver accents?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, like it wouldn't like his Iron Man
version of his suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, it's like mock one version. Yeah.
I like the look of them.
Speaker 1: I would love the idea of different suits, but I
think you'd pretty much stick to one style for the
whole show.
Speaker 3: We've got the red suit here in the basement. Here
some billy club action.
Speaker 2: Oh bit of clubs.
Speaker 3: Look at that face.
Speaker 2: That face is hilarious. I like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very brutal, very very brutal.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, this is where the the Transylvania music
comes in. I don't think it's quite that level, but
it's uh I still let like the spook factor to it.
Speaker 2: March fourth, March fourth, it's pretty close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll get another one before then another trailer.
Speaker 3: Oh geez, will we get what's coming out? When the
heck does Falcon Soldier America four When is that? When
does that come out? Again?
Speaker 2: When is that that one?
Speaker 3: Would they play a TV fourteenth? I don't know if
they've ever done that, actually, though I'm sorry say it again.
Have they ever played like a Disney Plus TV show
trailer at a movie?
Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen No, Probably probably not, Probably not,
because I don't think it would just say like only
on Disney Plus or something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't think we need I think we should god
enough here, So I'm gonna hope for no, and I'll
say no, I think this one's good enough. I think
you rock with this one. Maybe you have like a
couple of little TV spot, little thirty second clip ones,
but I think this is this is ample.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't need another one.
Speaker 1: But I could still like foresee like them do like
a little quick spot of like revealing like another character
that's in the show. And then of course it's like, well,
they didn't have to show this. They could have just
had a cool reveal moment in the show itself. But
that's how things go sometimes. But No, I thought it
was a solid trailer. Thought it was really really good.
Anything else to say on this or should I knowing on?
Speaker 3: I think I'm good cool?
Speaker 1: All right, well then we're gonna take our first ad
break here, ladies and gentlemen, and we'll be right back
to unravel some other things. There we go, all right,
and we're backladies and gentlemen. So, uh yeah, we got
a couple of rumored topics to mention. I'll say what
letter grade Scooper they are as we go through them.
But the first one, especially because we were just talking about,
you know, Hell's Kitchen Daredevil, mister bearded Punisher was appeared
there and will he appear elsewhere? Perhaps perhaps not, because apparently,
ladies and gentlemen, we have what was a rumored script
for Spider Man four, which apparently has since been rewritten,
because unless I'm mistaken, Kevin Faggy didn't really love the
initial script, but a see Tier Scooper here said that
apparently before the rewrites, the idea would have been a
more violent Hulk would be appearing in this movie, and
we would have a team up of Spider Man and
the Punisher, and of course the Punisher would be John
Burnhal's Punisher.
Speaker 2: So pretty polar opposite type of characters. For a pairing.
Speaker 1: We've seen that happen before, as I've already stated, I'm
going through Daredevil right now, and I feel like that
was kind of like always Daredevil and Punishers dynamic, where Okay,
they're doing their own vigil ani things. One goes the
extra mile and just kills people, and one, you know,
it doesn't doesn't kill people. So a little bit of
difference there. But I feel like even Spider Man to Daredevil,
like that's another jump in and of itself, just because
Daredevil is so much more brutal, even though I've seen
Spider Man dish out some serious damage, maybe it's just
because he's even though it should absolutely Spider Man twenty eighteen,
I was fucking people off the buildings.
Speaker 3: They absolutely died.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they got webbed to.
Speaker 3: The side of the building sometimes through in the middle
of nowhere. They're dead, Okay.
Speaker 1: But maybe it's because he's he's quipping as he's kicking
ass that it makes it a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more uh uh.
Speaker 1: All time, So yeah exactly, but uh so yeah, just
I guess to ask you first, Dylan, like what do
you think of which has now been apparently supposedly a
rewritten idea, But would you have wanted that a pairing
of Spider Man with with Punisher taken on. You know,
we've experienced violent Hulk in the past. Right as of
right now, he's kind of in the smart Hulk realm
where he's using his brains more than his bronze. But
are you feeding for that, for that violent Hulk? I
know we're getting Harrison Ford's violent Hulk in the next
Captain America movie, but yeah, are you are you thirsting
for some some angry Hulk?
Speaker 3: I maybe maybe I am. I think in the context
of this, this one doesn't smell right to me when
it comes to the rumor, when it comes to the
rumor mill, it does not pass the smell test. And
I think that if part of me is like, Okay,
maybe this is a storyline from the comics like these,
this specific team up of Spidey and Punished, I mean,
we've seen that before, but like against the Hulk, I
don't know where what Punisher's role is in that. Is
he stopping the Hulk in some way? This guy with
like a grenade launcher and like a couple of guns.
It just seems a little unbelievable, and I think in
a comic book, you can get away with that. I
think in an animated show you can get away with that.
I think in a video game maybe you could even
get away with that. But I think in the movie
live action sense, it would just feel a little off
in terms of the power levels there. It might be
hard for it to be believable. And I guess there's
some way you could pull it off. But like in theory,
you'd want them to be interacting with each other. If
you're setting up a movie, if you're marketing the movie
to be Spider Man and Punisher versus the Hulk, you
want to see combat between those guys, and like the
Hulk just throws one little boulder out of the ground
at Frank and he's done for So, I don't know,
Like I think that would be something that would seem
a bit off to me. I think the idea of
there being this like Teeter Totter of Spider Man wanting
to take down the Hulk or like bring back Bruce,
you know, take him down once again, non lethal like
webbing him to a wall, whereas punished would be like, no,
we just got to kill this guy and take him out.
That kind of idea could be fun in the back
and forth of them trying to balance that out. We've
seen things like that before and I think it could
be interesting, but it also might be a weird present
to set up in like one movie's timeline to like
introduce Punish Shirt. Well not, I guess we've been introduced them,
but like it's the first time in the MCU on
the big screen. The first time Punisher would be on
the big screen, so you gotta take some time to reintroduce.
You gotta meet, get the characters to meet each other,
and then like how does Hulk fallow inn This is
Hulk just raging around smash into stuff if you think
that's the case, Like, it's hard to also justify, like
where are the rest of the Avengers? Why is no
one else helping with this? It just feels like it
wouldn't really fit in the MCU. This feels like a
what if scenario, and it honestly is a little bit
similar to the what if We recently got over the
holidays with the Hulk, and obviously that went full crazy
Kaiju badness there, but the idea was like Hulk losing
control again and doing some some mild stuff and whatnot.
So I just don't know. And I think they've made
Hulk so much of like a like a lovable like
almost like doufist, which sounds kind of weird for the
smart guy Hulk thing. But I just feel like that's
kind of the way we've gone with the mark rufflo
Hulk recently, and I feel like we have right Hulk
to be the raging ones, So like, would we do
that again with a Hulk like a year or whatever
it is later that movie comes later this year. It
just all sounds a little fuzzy to me, So I
don't I don't believe, and I don't love the concept either.
For live action, I think give me an uh spider Man, Uh,
what the hell Freshman? What is the hell is that
show called again?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, they changed the name of it. I actually can't remember.
Speaker 3: Is it just Friendly Neighborhood Spier?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Friend Neighbor spider Man yet And I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what's going on that show. Give me,
give me that, give me that concept in an episode
of that show might be down, But I don't know
if I want that for my live action Spidery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I think I'm right there with you
on the smell test factor of this rumor. I think
just the the idea of getting Hulk back to his
more just savage beast seal, you know ways, versus the
brainy ectversion that we have right now. I don't think
it's a concept that like is impossible to get to.
Speaker 2: But I just.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just don't want to like have
a super lazy way to just get him like angry
at me and again just to like reset it.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like we've.
Speaker 1: Gone a long growth period of like of having that
character like in the get go being the angry version
and then being able to handle it and then kind
of going back to that like we were just kind
of already done that already. So and because he's always
been pretty much a focal point of those Avengers squads,
it just seems like if he if he breaks again
here and like there is no Avengers or anything to
be a part of that, it just seems like it's.
Speaker 2: A little bit lesser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, it just seems like it should
be a big team up thing versus well, I guess
you could argue that that would be the Spider Man
and Punisher pairing, but even there, it just seems it
just seems messy in my mind.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I could be fooled and they can make a
really interesting tale of incorporating all those characters, but as
of right now, I just I have a hard time
kind of seeing that. And Dalton mentioned in the in
the chad Here Punisher first appeared in a Spider Man comics,
So I guess you could say like it's it's going
back to that original pairing, which that's I could definitely
see why this would be like a rumor that people
are a are mentioning just because I don't know, trying
to cross two dots together, especially that we're seeing John
Burnhal's Punisher now and the Daredevil born again, and just
just knowing that he's going to be, you know, at
least somewhat a part of the MCU. Now people will
just be fantasizing and pairing them up with all these things.
So but in terms of the believability, I don't know.
I don't feel super strong about that, and I don't
necessarily want that one. So if that is you know
what the original script would have been, I'm okay if
they rewrote it, because it just seems like maybe it
could be.
Speaker 2: More mess than than not out.
Speaker 3: So I feel like there's a big clash of tones
there too. In terms of Spider Man, you know, he's
a quippie character, he's a more lightheaded hearted character. Now
with the ending of the last Spider Man movie, we
could be going into a face or he's a lot
more darker and brooding, and maybe he just doesn't have
a lot of connection right although from other roomors we've
heard like maybe he's just friends with MJ and stuff again,
and like it all kind of worked out. But then,
like Punisher, the one that we've had established so far
once Gonny could change a bit because like even Daredevil
tonally very different in she Hulk than he is for
the most part in you know, the television series, and
there is like moments of levity in those shows of course,
but and then like, I don't know what this Hulk
doesn't sound like a very fun, lighthearted Hulk. That also
sounds like a pretty dark, serious thing. So I don't know.
I wonder if those would clash at all with the
current Spider Man we have, or if they would venture
down that road, down that road of maybe can it
more of a serious thing. I don't know if they
want to do that though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Cool. Yeah, I don't really
have anything else to say on that, do you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess The other detail of this was that,
like Scorpion Shocker, maybe we're part of this oh right
project as well. Maybe that would be an early I
feel Shocker seems like an early like first goon type
guy you take out. Scorpion seems like a bigger, slightly
bigger deal, Like maybe that's where Spider Man and Punisher
would come together, and that's so they would split their differences,
like going together against those two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was this was something where I mean, I
forgot to bring it up, so I'm I'm glad you remember,
But I just kind of discounted it as false because
we've already kind of seen aspects to those characters from
Spider Man Homecoming, right, Like we have we have Scorpion
in there. He's just like a guy with a scorpion
tattoo and nothing really more.
Speaker 3: Remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I don't know if we have I
can't remember if it's like the same Choker from the comics,
but like a guy does get those shockers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it I think it is technically shocker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would be because I definitely not a
fan of those versions. Both of those characters are really
iconic for me, just being a fan of like the
original like Spider Man cartoon back in the day, and
just the versions of those characters that show up in
the video games very iconic to me, even though I
don't really see them as like the S tier big
bad villains, but they're just a really really great like
B villain. I feel so, And because I have just
nostalgia for them, I hate the way that they were done,
So I would be okay with the reset of those characters,
but just them being somehow featured in this in this mix,
it just it just adds to the unbelievable factor for
me on this one.
Speaker 3: But but yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to give another ghost maybe you know, like
Secret Wars or something, we're dealing with a multiverse. Maybe
you can see like a multiverse version of those characters,
and that could be pretty exciting.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna hold my brother.
Speaker 3: I don't have time for that. Yeah, exactly cool.
Speaker 1: And then I guess the other thing I was going
to tie into this, just talking about the Hulk rumored.
Speaker 2: This is a C tier rumor.
Speaker 1: George Miller, big famous, renowned director of course of the
Mad Max. He did Fury Road as well as Happy Feet,
but everybody forgets about Happy Feet, so I forget about
how that one. Yeah, I try to remember that one
as much as they can. But yeah, furios a Mad Max,
periy Road, and then of course the original Mad Max
and Happy Feet. But so big, like cinematic type type
of a director. So yeah, the rumor is that he
could be doing a World War Hulk movie or a
four or five. And yeah, does that ticle your fancy? Dylan,
I know you're not really well versed in all the
Mad maxes.
Speaker 3: I know you've seen his his two most recent once,
so yeah, good enough.
Speaker 2: Actually that's a good track. Have you seen Happy Feet?
Big happy Feet fan?
Speaker 3: I'm not saying happy Feet, I was just defending it
two minutes ago.
Speaker 2: That's okay.
Speaker 3: I've seen it myself.
Speaker 2: I don't think it holds up, but.
Speaker 1: It had an awesome game on the GameCube, so shouts
out to that game. Yeah, I do not own it.
It was a blockbuster rental, but I would love to
try that one again.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, well, I mean, yeah, the the Thor one
jumps out at me, of course, because hempstarth was in Furiosa,
and that seems like a pairing made in heaven. The
World War Hulk one seems a little more random to me,
So there's an interesting there is some validity to this
and this one is definitely even though these are this
is a sea tire as the last rumor was. This
one feels a lot more believable to me, only because
I feel like it's actually a bit of a similar
situation to Taika or Taika made some movies, but like
he needed some money and that's why he did Marvel stuff.
He's come out and said that now that he seems
like he's done with the MCU, he said that as
much as that's why he took on those thor projects,
like in large part perhaps or maybe like he's been
burned because the fans have kind of turned on those
movies in a big way, and so maybe in hindsight
he was like looking at it that way. But either way,
it seems like a thing. And George Miller, like Furiosa
did not do well at the box office, and I
don't I don't know what his financial situation is like
maybe he needs maybe he needs some Marvel Disney money,
and so he just needs to crush out a Marvel
movie or two, get a nice, easy, quote unquote paycheck,
and then he can move on to like a more
passion project thing for himself. That's a lot of speculation.
I have no idea what this guy's financial situation is
like or what Hollywood looks at him as in terms
of his ability to make another blockbuster. And maybe mad
Max is just too niche or something. But yeah, I
feel like if they're they're done with Tayka as Thor
as the director of Thor, and they want to keep
the vibes somewhat similar, Like I think that Taika maybe
more straight up comedy, but he also has, you know,
a variety of stuff in his repertoire that he's done before.
I think George Miller actually could be a good fit
for that, and like it would be less silly, I think,
and less like slapstick that those recent Thor movies were.
But I still think there is a bridge between I mean,
obviously those early Thorer movies and how dark and serious
they were, and then Tycher was like a whoa one
eighty and I feel like this would actually be just
a much smoother, like there'd be a little bump in
the road, but actually we it wouldn't take too them
before we kind of even out again. In terms of
the pairing there World War Hull, that's hard to say,
just because like I don't know what the heck the
vibe or tone of that would be, or like what
else would be entailing with that. But I think from
that same perspective of like, he's a great director. He
makes big, blockbustery things. He can make things big and cinematic,
as you mentioned, so I think like he seems like
a good pick for doing a Marvel thing. I think
maybe my preference would be, like maybe he goes and
does more unique things, because he is a pretty unique director.
But at the same time, I haven't seen his movies
other than the two Fear Like Mad Max movies, So like,
maybe I'm saying that and maybe the best way for
me to go see his next movie would for him
to direct a Marvel movie. So I think the parents
are pretty good here. I'd prefer thor I suppose of
the two, And I would not be mad if this
this guy confirmed and moved ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like his body of work. We did
a Mad Max retro go check that out on the feeds.
That was lots of fun to go through all those
wild early movies. But so yeah, I've definitely had some
experience with this director, and I think it would be
a really awesome addition to just the plethora of MCU
directors that we've had in the past. I feel like
either of them I would be okay for. I feel
like each of them can be very grandiose and the
scale of just the action and everything, especially like a
World War Hulk. I feel like maybe that's the one
I'm leaning for a little bit more. But maybe it's
just because it's harder for me to see past maybe
the era of Thor that we're in, But you gotta,
I guess I have to remember that the.
Speaker 2: Thor that we have right now, I.
Speaker 1: Think we're definitely past the halfway point of Hemsworth's just
appearances with that character in the MCU, So maybe we're
just entering like the third act of that character, and
maybe just a different tone is going to be really fitting,
because as you mentioned, like we we started with a
darker tone in those earlier movies and complete one eighty
with Taika, which which was just like, I guess, just
the peak of like the bright humor around that character.
But I think maybe now that we're we're getting closer
to the end of of closing that not just the chapter,
but but the book on Thor himself. I'm I'm not
saying he's gonna be dying next next appearance, but I
just I feel like we're getting to the end of
the road there, so uh yeah, maybe we're we're ready
for a little bit more of a different tone. Whether
that's more dramatic or sad, who knows, who knows what
it was, But I think that it.
Speaker 3: Would be a fun one eighty for the previous project
for Hemsworth and George Miller, where he directed him as
a villain and then he directs him as a hero
and Thor next. It would be kind of a fun,
fun little flip flop.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm sure they had some like great chem
street together. We're working. I can't confirm nor deny that,
but I mean, you.
Speaker 3: Chosen for a reason to be bring on you back
for some role. Oh yeah, get in there in five
Let her do whatever she can be like a New
Hella or something that's.
Speaker 1: Exactly she'll need it after doing The Gorge because no
one seen that movie, but.
Speaker 3: I'll see it non theaters.
Speaker 2: Though, yeah in theaters.
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, that was of course like a C
tier rumor, but I'm down for it.
Speaker 3: So it's the believability BS meter on that one.
Speaker 2: What do yes meter? I'm gonna say, like for either
of them, just yeah.
Speaker 3: Georgia Miller coming to direct a Marvel thing.
Speaker 2: I'm want to say like sixty three percent.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's like a C.
Speaker 1: I think that's a mid seed so unknown knowingly, yeah exactly,
I'll go thirty three, I'll go thirty dropping, thirty two,
thirty two, okay, a little bit that it's real below. Yeah,
that's that's a little bit less than but I respect that, okay.
And then the last thing I want to mention in
the Disney Realm here is, in terms of Strange Academy,
the next show coming to Marvel Television, which apparently I.
Speaker 2: Think this one was a B plus tire if I remember, Oh,
just okay, be be t be tire. I apologize.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, of course this would be the kind of
I imagine Wong centered show where he's kind of just
I was gonna say raising, that's the wrong word. Just
uh teaching. I guess the new era of Supreme Wizards
and and all that. So you know, we love Wong
here on the Geek. First, I'm totally down for what
this show could be. I like being in that mystic
realm and uh yeah, I in terms of believability factor,
like it is a B tier. But I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Say, you don't think strange, you don't think strangers here,
you think it's just Wong.
Speaker 1: I I feel like what this show could be is
a bridge to whether it's the next Strange movie or
the next uh like a shunk Chi title. I feel
like maybe there'll be some crossover in those realms, not
necessarily like I think.
Speaker 3: We get another Strange movie before we get this at
the least. Yeah, once again, that move is huge box office.
Speaker 2: That is true. That is true, a big, big money movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I I feel like part of me Yeah,
it's just it's it's saying maybe the main doctor Strange
himself won't be won't be a big part of this show.
That's my that's my it's my feeler right now. But
are you in the opposite ring.
Speaker 3: I think I would just be way less excited if
he was not. Yea like starring in it. I love
it for you, I I love long and I wanted
to be in there too. I think they're a great
one two punch they have. They have great chemistry together
as as buddies. Yeah, I'd love to see them just
in their movies and then also like teaming up together
in MCU stuff like the in the Avengers, you know,
the bigger things, the team ups. I really like seeing
both of them there. And I've liked Wong his in
his moments outside of that too, like the the She
Hulk stuff, Like He's always fun, He's always a thumbs.
Speaker 2: Up for me.
Speaker 3: But I I think I need a little more sauce
to be engaged in a show, And I feel like
that would be a very risk, like after some of
the issues that Disney's had recently in terms of money,
in terms of like successive shows, I feel like that
would be a very, very very big risk to do
a show with like just Wong as the Yeah like
about him, and you know, maybe bring some other like
high level characters in. But I don't really know who
fits in that realm other than like Chavez and I
don't know, Ned made a magic circle once we bring
Ned in from Spider Man. But but yeah, like I so,
I don't, I feel like you need Stranger and that
would be a lot more interesting to me. And I
think it'd be fun to see that that duo kind
of setting up a full on academy and teaching some
people get some pupils. But I'm even though this is
a higher tier scoop than the other ones, like maybe
it's in the works, Okay, I guess that's a much
less committal thing to say than like these these scripts
and like George Miller getting confirmed, Like just the fact
that you know a script maybe's in the works or
some ideas like that's okay, it's pretty easy to believe
that they're thinking or considering it. But I don't know.
I guess, I guess for me, just with where they
am to use that and all these rumors we've heard
in terms of where they're going with these future things
and going back to the legacy characters, the characters that
make money and people are nostalgic for I just don't
know if I see this happening of like another show
that's maybe it seems like the purpose is to bring
up some new blood, like some new characters and get
them in the mix. Like maybe it's really focused and
it's really just about like Chaves and like boosting her
up as a character. And you know, she was in
a huge movie that made a lot of money. So
maybe there's an idea there and you sneak in like
a magic or I don't know who else, some other
some other up and comers. Maybe young Robbie Ray is
like ghostwriter kind of thing. But I don't know. I
I I think, is it, Is it possible? This is
in the works, sure, but I don't I don't see
it happening in the next few years, I guess. Is
my Yeah, my cynical take on the thing. Although I
love if if Doctor Strange himself wasn't it and Wong,
I I mean, it would be one of my most
hyped anticipated things for the MCU because I love those characters.
But I think you gotta tweak it just right. And
I don't know, sound a little sketchy right.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I I of course would be down to have Benedict
in here. It's just I feel like he's just so pricey.
And if you're gonna have Wong and which Benedict were
talking here, Benedict cumberbotch is that is?
Speaker 3: Don't forget that Wong, Benedict, Benedict, Benedict square. I got
to specify your Benedicts in this.
Speaker 1: I apologize, mister Wong. I yes forgot who's Benedict as well?
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems if we're getting a bunch of different
faces in here, like it's going to be an academy.
So I imagine it would be a pretty decent roster
of cares in that show.
Speaker 2: It's just hard for a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people died in multiverse that would be potential candidates.
Speaker 2: That is true. That it's a fair point.
Speaker 1: And yeah, in terms of believability, I definitely think this
is in the works. But I want to say this
definitely has the ingredients to be in a show that
just maybe never sees the light of day, even though
it is getting pushed along.
Speaker 2: But like I guess we're living.
Speaker 1: In a world where like Armor Wars is still coming out,
and I thought that show.
Speaker 2: Was just dead on arrival.
Speaker 3: Yeah, show movie, Yeah, nebulous something.
Speaker 2: And things like Blade, you know, I truly believe that
I'll never see the light of day.
Speaker 1: Marhrshwa Lea's blade, got Arcane Leon's blade, That's all I need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They can never take that away from us.
Speaker 3: Well, Microsoft did close the other arcades, so I never
say never.
Speaker 2: I would say that, let me, let me have hope.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It sounds cool. Obviously we'll wait and see. But my
initial feeler, sorry, sounds cool.
Speaker 2: I do hope.
Speaker 3: It does happen, but sorry, quick side tangent. I was
on Reddit today and I think it was like on
a hit Man Hitman redit. Someone was like, man, why
do on they make stealth games anymore? And there's a
bunch of people in there, and one guy was like,
oh man, I really want Arcane to make Dishonored three.
And then some guy replied and he's like, Arcane's dead man.
It ain't happened. And I felt like such a hero
today when I was like, Arcane, the Arcane that made
Dishonored is still around you. There's still a chance, buddy.
Speaker 2: Did you mention that to him? Did you?
Speaker 3: I did. I I don't normally post, but I was like,
I can't let this misinformation exist on the Internet. I
need people to know that the people who made Dishonored
too are making Blade right now.
Speaker 2: Good to go, Well, thank you for stepping in for that, man.
Speaker 3: Uh cool?
Speaker 2: Anything else on these Disney rumors? Ah no, no not
all right, lady and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Where we're gonna take our next ad break and then
we're gonna be bringing up some trailers to talk. That's
what we'll be right back, all right, mister muss We
got a list of trailers here. We got mister Mattie Saggs,
our great patreon, who's asking us to rank them in
uh his his usual order of excitement. But yeah, and
anyone's that really caught your fancy here? Was it a
weaker batch of trailers than we that we normally get?
Maybe that's how I felt a little bit.
Speaker 3: But this is a week This is a week batch
capital w for you. The fact that Daredevil is also
a trailer that I guess is in contention for the ranking.
Speaker 2: We can make that a ranking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the star ingredient here. For the rest of
it is like some moldy cheese and some expense tears.
Speaker 1: You know what you're doing, tearmaker, It's like, hey, this
is my st t here, and then everyone else is
like a couple letter grades below.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I guess the ones we got
here the Monkey until Dawn, back in Action, the woman
in the Art Heart Eyes. So we've got a lot
of like horror thriller kind kind of vibes in the
mix here. I guess I'll start with a Monkey because
that is one. I think we talked about a trailer
about that, probably back in November, maybe it was October.
So that's the next movie from Ozga Perkins, who made
Long Legs, which, Yeah, sometimes I wonder, like, man, some
of these directors, they just they're just get movies out
the door, like someone like your Ghost Lad, like he
just had poor things and then like kinds of Kindness
came out like a few months later, and then he
has like his next thing coming out seeing I think.
So it's just crazy with some of these directors they
able to do. But yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited for this.
I think this is another good trailer for this. I'm
I'm excited for the silly like final destination angle of it.
I think that was my takeaway from the last trailer.
So I don't know if I had a whole lot
of new takeaways. But I like the dialogue, I like
the concept. I think it's just gonna be a fun
movie of like weird rope, Rube Goldberg, death machine things,
and like after watching Long Legs, I'm just so confident
in his tone, his style. There's just there's this a
certain essence to his movies that I think is really special.
So yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited for this one. I
think it's gonna be a good time. Even if it's
not an all time great, I think it. I don't
think it'll be as good as Long Legs would be
my prediction, but I still think it'll be just a
fun time. Nonetheless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 1: I feel like initially it just turned me off because
I was just under the assumption. I'm like, oh, this
is just gonna be like a gross movie of like
you said, Final Destination, where we just we just get
deaths and brutal kills on screen and those things that
make me squirm. Usually not one to seek those out.
But as the trailer was going on, I definitely found
some dark humor in it. I feel like THEO James,
the lead, if I'm remembering his name correctly. I feel
like just the way that he was handling certain situations
made me see this as a little bit more special
than just being like a kill fast type movie. So yeah,
definitely one that I will surprise ear. Sorry, I will
admit it surprised me as it went along, because I
think as it started I just kind of discounted it
right away. But yeah, those clowns are free and creepy, man,
But just the way that some of the deaths would
happen to it, it made me made me think of
have you ever seen a super b rate horror movie
called Rubber where it's rubber a killer rubber.
Speaker 3: Tire, but I've always heard about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really terrible, it's really really atrocious. But
essentially just that's how kills happen. It just rolls up
and then like someone's head will just blow up and
they just die. And I feel like the way that
the monkey is like actually getting these kills doesn't really
make sense. He just starts a chain like a game
of mouse trap where which is a crazy contraption, and
then ends up getting a kill done. But I don't know,
it was a little bit more special than a regular
kill fest movie, so yeah, boosted up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh god, what's next year? So yeah, ah man, back
in Action this is like a oh god, Yeah, it's
like a Netflix classic situation where it's funny. I feel like,
so Netflix, they release a lot of movies, and they
always have big stars in them, but often the movies
are just really not good just in general. And I
feel like I was very surprised with It's What's Inside.
I was like, Oh, this is actually a really great movie.
I really enjoyed this. Maybe they're turning things around. And
I see this trailer, I'm like, oh my god, this
is the most generic thing I've ever seen in my life.
I don't think there's anything I want to watch less
in the world than Back in Action. And the rest
of these trailers are not great. I would gladly watch
any of these things three times. But watching Back in
Action ones, Yeah.
Speaker 1: This one had that special factor or maybe unspecial factor
of just being very like, oh, this is gonna be awful,
and I feel like maybe it'll be a movie that
I completely forget about after we do this cast and
then a couple months go by, someone in the discord
is like, oh yeah, I watched this movie and I'll
I'll just have a hard time even remember what it was.
Speaker 3: It's a forgettable name, you will definitely, yeah, yeah, what
it was.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's very rare for me to enjoy
like a true Netflix original movie. I think Day Shifts,
which of course had Jamie Fox thought that was a
more positive one for me. But yeah, it's just definitely
looks generic and just cheesy and not what I'm going
to be seeking out by any means. And yeah, no,
as a whole for these trailers, they really didn't do
a whole lot for me. I think this was kind
of the only trailer that wasn't just a horror movie.
And yeah, I'm not really going to be seeking out
any of these, even though I don't know they didn't
look awful.
Speaker 2: This one was the worst of.
Speaker 1: The bunch, but yeah, it wasn't great. Have you ever
played until Dawn?
Speaker 2: The Place?
Speaker 3: Not played until Dawn? It's a blind spot for me
for sure. I don't think I've really played any of
that Studios game super Massive, right, I don't think I've
played anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, no, I I never got my hands
on the I guess there's only been one, but then
they've made like a remaster last year. I think yeah, yeah,
for PS five, I was always interested, especially just knowing
what that like, like that developer, those types of games.
They're definitely unique in the sense of it just being
like a very cinematic type of experience, very theatrical, which
just like having like the mocap actors and everything. I
think the world that I was seeing in this trailer
was was really unique because it's it's I imagine it's
pretty much the exact same thing that happens in the
video game. But I think it's just because I didn't
really have any familiarity with the game. I was really
surprised about kind of the rules I guess of the
world of like what's going on, Like they have until
dawn to survive, and then it seems like it seems
like they die new like multiple times or but.
Speaker 3: Then there's the rewinding thing right with the right hours.
So I think that's to me, that seems like the
difference here where I feel like, until down the game,
if you fuck up, those are your consequences. I guess
you could reload a save if you want, but like
the idea is that you're playing to the game multiple times.
If you messed up and let character a die at
some point, you can play the game again and try
and save them this time and see all these different things,
and that's kind of the fun, nice web of it all.
But I yeah, I don't think there. I don't think
there's an element of the game where you're rewinding to like, oh,
you do choices. I think you're supposed to live with
your consequences and then play the game again. But I
think this is like the movie's way of I guess,
taking that that idea of like consequences and actions and
choices and like putting into a movie version that Okay,
that is a thing that people can watch and makes sense. Yeah,
that's my take at least as once again, I have
not played the game, but I think that's what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did like the setup though of what this was.
Speaker 1: I I really finding that I'm just like a fan
of the whole Cabin in the Woods type setting for them,
and and like specifically the movie Cabin in the Woods,
where I don't want to spoil that movie because it's
just so fantastic of a twist, but just the way
that in this trailer when they're like approaching the area,
it's like, once you get past this line, it's just
rainy and like it seems like it's a video game
like like room that's set up.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was having a lot of fun with that, and
even just some of the villains and deaths that were
shown here, this one was a more positive one, I'll say,
for me, just going through all the reason interesting. Of course,
you know, I'm somewhat interested in the video game, so
maybe that helps, just knowing what the setup setting is.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I think for me it was just
the this movie just looks really cheap and the writing
seems to suck. The one scene that really stood out
to me was a girl her sister is missing. She
goes into a gas station, shows a picture of her
sister to the gas station clerk and says, hey, have
you seen my sister? And he says, has she gone missing?
She's like, I didn't say that? What what the way
this whole scene is set up? Anyone would answer that
exact same way, And it is not weird or suspicious
because you've just shown this person said have you seen
this person? That the only mean that they've gone missing.
So to me, that showed everything of like how shit
the writing is gonna be and like, I don't know,
I think the game is like a bit campy, but
this just seems not campy. It just seems poorly written
and like maybe not great acting or whatever, like I
don't know, bad whatever it is, something alongline. It just
looks not not quality.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely seeing what you're what you're what you're shining
a light on, because yeah, when that scene happened, I
was rolling my eyes it was so ridiculous. But I
feel like the saving grace for me is like the
rules of the of the world, and I think if
they really just lean heavily on I don't know, like
just going through these brutal deaths and like what they
have to do, like sticking to and maybe it is
very different from the video game, but still staying to
like true to the rules of this game, this game
being like the movie. I think that's the most intriguing
thing for me, and hopefully it's not just super disappointing
on the way that's kind of explained.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you how do you think that's gonna work?
Because I'm guessing it's not gonna be like a character.
It's not like they can be like, oh, let's go
back in time now and read you no, because there's
still gonna be consequences. But like, what will be the
point is it when all of them die and then
we go back to a point where not a yeah,
we're dead maybe and that way there can still be
a story. I'm I'm not sure how that's gonna work,
but it seemed like from the trailer it seems like
it's gonna happen a lot, like we're gonna get a
lot of rewinds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they were looking at that one ledger, I
assumed that was like the amount of times that they've died.
I don't know if it was just wheree person had
gone through that, but that like that was quite a
few instances that was jotted down on that. So, yeah,
it wasn't super clear exactly what the rules were gonna be.
Like maybe they're just in this endless loop unless everyone survives.
Maybe that's the thing, Like maybe one person just fucking
keeps getting getting eaten. Yeah, exactly, it'd be frustrating, but
I'm sure would suck more to be the canny in
that situation. I imagine there's gonna be some brutal deaths
in here as well.
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be that bad. No, is this
movie PG thirteen? I don't know tvm A the I know,
I doubt it. I think they're going they're going wide
and broad with this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the video game would have been emerated, I imagine.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. Let me let me take
a look.
Speaker 2: Unless it's a PG thirteen rating.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, maybe because I guess Five
Nights at Freddy's would have been something where like the
video game was probably more rated R or something along
those lines, but then the movie version was toned down
a little bit to just be more accessible to all audiences.
But maybe I'm mistaken in that sense.
Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, it is an em erated game.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just assumed because I was assumed with monsters
there'd be some brutal deaths.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to find is it R rated.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see like a date or anything on it,
But I don't know. I was intrigued by the trailer,
but it's definitely not one that like was selling me
on wanting to go out to the theaters to watch this.
I think this is definitely one I would be watching
later on in an at home setting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, for sure, just like the way people
play until dawn the game on the effort of their
own couch. Exactly what else we got? We got The
Woman in the Are, which is a movie where what's
going on? There's a family in their little farmhouse situation,
and there's a there's a benajess written lady out of
the in the yard and if you.
Speaker 2: Do the trial jabbar exactly.
Speaker 3: I was like, where shallow with his hand in the
little fax machine thing? Books, Uh, this looked pretty cheesy
to me as well. I I will not be seeing
this one, I don't think, to put it lightly.
Speaker 1: I think this is one I can see myself watching
much later down the line and completely forgetting about it
and then be like, oh, what's this Woman in the
Yard movie? And then and then remembering this moment. But yeah,
it just seems like something I've seen before, very much
like The Woman in Black. It reminds me of the
exact same type setting. But I actually ended up liking
that movie somewhat, so who knows me this would be
a bit of a surprise, but didn't have enough interest
factor to get me in the theaters to watch this one.
Speaker 3: Let's see what this director? Oh, this director, Oh, this
is the director of Black Adam, Uh, Jungle Cruise, carry On?
Did you watch carry On?
Speaker 2: Or the watch carry On?
Speaker 3: Orphan? That movie that I've never seen, but I always
just about box arts, like glued into my head House
of Wax. Okay, Okay, So this guy's made some movies.
They're all kind of like mid, I think, but like
maybe so sometimes you just want like a mid horror movie,
so maybe this was.
Speaker 2: I think most horror movies are mid.
Speaker 3: I think the weird thing about this trailer that was
throwing me off because we've seen this concept a lot
of people. Family whoever is at a house, there's someone outside.
It's kind of creepy, but it's like it's never in
just broad daylight.
Speaker 2: So that's a good point.
Speaker 3: At night, someone's hiding behind a tree and then they
do a double take and then they've disappeared, you know,
but there's no she's just sitting out there. You can
go outside the house, you go up and talk to her,
like she'll just continue to sit in her in her chairs. Yeah,
who knows, Maybe it'll be a breakthrough hit.
Speaker 1: Perhaps I'm not going to be breaking through to see
that movie though, And then are we got the last one?
Speaker 2: We got hard eyes here very much.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's been many of these, like Valentines
Day slasher horror type films. I believe there's a movie
called Valentine's Day which is that same situation. I don't
think I've seen any of those movies. It's not really
a genre I seek out.
Speaker 3: Is this going to break the trend?
Speaker 2: Then this is not going to break the trend.
Speaker 1: I feel like these types of and maybe I'm mistaken
by this, but I feel like these Valentine's Day slasher
are very much oriented for like couples to go see
these around the Valentine's Day realm.
Speaker 2: And you know, my partner is definitely not.
Speaker 1: A horror lover, not a fan of suspenseful thrillers or
anything along that those lines. So yeah, I and even
just for viewing this on my own, it just didn't
really capture a lot of things I'm interested in. My
favorite horror is the slow burned type of horror versus
the straight up acts of the face type of killer.
All right, But yeah, so I'm I don't think I'm
ever gonna watch this movie. I think I'll just boldly
say that right now. There's some where like, you know,
the woman in the woman in the Yard. I almost
said the woman in the black, the woman in the yard.
I could definitely see myself, you know, watching that one day,
kind of forgetting about us talking about here, but just
down the line, see average horror movie. But this is
definitely not what I'm gonna be putting on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean neither. I This is the also the
second trailer for this I think I have talked about
this one before on the cast. I'm pretty sure heart
eyes to me, this one looks better than like the
other slop we had in this trail, this run of
trailers here, And I couldn't really give you a good
reason why. I think it just like wasn't quite as cringey.
It looked like a little bit more quality, perhaps a
little bit better visuals, that kind of thing. So I
don't think I have much more to say, many more
nice things to say about it looks totally fine. I'm
sure it'll be another good turn your brain off, have
a good time with your QUT kind of movie. So
no one that I expect to watch personally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 1: Well that's all the trailers, folks, So ranking them for
however order you want to do them. I'll go first, okay,
because I'm talking, So I'm gonna start at the bottom,
so my least interest level, and then I'm gonna make
it all the way up to Daredevil because that's my
number one at the bottom I got back in Action.
We were not super fun of that when we were
talking about it. And then above that, I have hard Eyes.
Above that, I'll go Woman in the Yard and then
we'll do we'll do until Dawn, and then the Monkey.
Speaker 2: And then Daredevil. That'll be my order.
Speaker 1: But like I was saying earlier, I think Daredevil is
like an st here and then everything else, like the
Monkey would be like B plus here at the most
for me. Like these trailers really didn't do a whole
lot for me today unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I have a very similar one to you.
So yeah, number one is obviously darreed Will number two
is Monkey. Number three, I guess I'll go hard Eyes.
That would be a difference from yours, and then I'll
go until don at number four, Woman in the Yard,
five Back in Action, Dead Last number six last. Actually
put it number seven, number seven.
Speaker 2: Right where it belongs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Perfect, So there you go, Maddie. Thanks for your reoccurring
Patreon question. We always appreciate that you and we are
not going to rank them unless you ask us to
do it every time. Sure we don't. We actually don't.
One time one week he missed it. We didn't rank them.
We did not do it exactly. So you gotta be
on your a game there, Maddie. Ladies and gentlemen, that's
all the topics we have today. So any closing things
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