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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we've talked about this already before, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen several headlines in the last couple of days discussing

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<v Speaker 1>it again, so I figured we jump back in and

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<v Speaker 1>add another episode to the catalog dealing with Brian Cohberger

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that he might be responsible for other

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<v Speaker 1>crimes elsewhere. Now, there is no concrete evidence one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other to support that, and as of now,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just being investigated for potentially being involved. Previously, we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this in Pennsylvania, so I was a little

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<v Speaker 1>confused when I saw the headlines. But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So since it's the headline making its way through the

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<v Speaker 1>news cycle, we'll pick right back up where we left off,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, and talk a little bit more about Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Coberger and the fact that he might be responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>some other murders. Today's article is from newsweek headline Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Coberger investigated over other homicides. This article was authored by

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<v Speaker 1>James Bickerton, and it was back in February when we

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<v Speaker 1>were first talking about the information that came to light

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<v Speaker 1>about prosecutors in Pennsylvania who were investigating cold cases in

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<v Speaker 1>possible relation to Brian Coberger, and back then we heard

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<v Speaker 1>those prosecutors tell us that as of that time, they

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<v Speaker 1>had made no connections. So let's see if anything is changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Police in Pennsylvania are investigating Brian Cooberger over potential involvement

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<v Speaker 1>in other outstanding homicides. According to a NewsNation report, Colberger

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<v Speaker 1>has been charged with four counts of first degree murder

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<v Speaker 1>along with one felony burglary after four University of Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>students were stabbed to death by an intruder in the

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<v Speaker 1>college town of Moscow, Madison. Mogen, Kaylee Gonsalvis, Xana Kernodle,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ethan Chapin were killed with a knight in a

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<v Speaker 1>shared student house in the early hours of November thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Two other female students who were also in the house

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<v Speaker 1>when it was attacked were not harmed. Mogan, gonsalvis, In,

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<v Speaker 1>Kernodle all lived in the property, while Chapin was staying

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<v Speaker 1>with Kernodle, his girlfriend when the attack occurred. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not completely true. Kaylee had moved out already, remember, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was just there for the weekend to show her

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<v Speaker 1>best friend Maddie her new car, while Coburger has yet

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<v Speaker 1>to enter a plea. In January, shortly after his arrest,

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<v Speaker 1>his Pennsylvania public defender said he was eager to be exonerated.

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<v Speaker 1>If confirmed that authorities are investigating Coburger over other unsolved murders,

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<v Speaker 1>the case against him could expand significantly, though this has

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<v Speaker 1>not been officially announced. And here's where I'm having some

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<v Speaker 1>confusion with the next paragraph. The news that police were

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<v Speaker 1>investigating Coburger's possible role in other was broken by News

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<v Speaker 1>Nation on Wednesday, with presenter Chris Cuomo saying, tonight, I

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<v Speaker 1>can report to you exclusively that authorities in Pennsylvania, where

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested, are investigating potential involvement in other outstanding homicides.

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<v Speaker 1>The only problem with that is this isn't breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already talked about this previously, so I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if anything new was here, and it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>anything new has popped up. So I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting the idea that Chris Cuomo is breaking this,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking at an article from February eighth of

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<v Speaker 1>this year talking about the same thing, that Pennsylvania police

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<v Speaker 1>are sifting through cold cases for possible links to Brian Coberger.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from the Northampton County District and the Lehigh

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<v Speaker 1>County prosecutor who told us there were no connections. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's what passes for breaking news. Over on

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<v Speaker 1>the Chris Cuomo Show, the news was confirmed by Mark Garrett,

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<v Speaker 1>a trial attorney, who told Cuomo, yes, I have heard

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<v Speaker 1>similar and not just in this case, but virtually every

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<v Speaker 1>high profile case that is a circumstantial evidence murder case.

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<v Speaker 1>You will almost inevitably hear of other unsolved murders and

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement looks to see if they can link whoever

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<v Speaker 1>the suspect is. So no breaking news here, folks, just

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff we've talked about. Oh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>two months ago. Asked why this would be, Garaghos replied, well,

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing, I suppose it fills a vacuum. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did somebody do this when you don't have a motive

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<v Speaker 1>That is the most obvious explanation. And also the cynic

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<v Speaker 1>in me, the defense lawyer in me, suspects it's a

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<v Speaker 1>way to dirty somebody up. Cuomo replied that authorities don't

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<v Speaker 1>need the smir Coburger, before asking retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffendaffer,

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<v Speaker 1>what sort of things the police would be looking for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt they're looking to smear Brian Coberger at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've heard some pretty gruesome stuff about the dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the circumstantial evidence and the evidence that's

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<v Speaker 1>been piled on since then speaks for itself. Nobody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and wage a campaign against Brian Coberger.

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<v Speaker 1>His actions have done that for him. She said, Well, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>if they have a case which fits the modus operendi

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<v Speaker 1>that matches what happened in Idaho, for instance, is the

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<v Speaker 1>target a young, beautiful co ed was the weapon of choice,

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<v Speaker 1>A knife was the arrival and departure of the individual

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<v Speaker 1>in a vehicle as opposed to being dropped off or

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<v Speaker 1>by foot. Was the time chosen at this three o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>to four o'clock timeframe. All of that fits for what

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<v Speaker 1>happened up in Oregon with the Jutans. But remember they've

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<v Speaker 1>ruled that out. So why is it that they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at cold cases in Pennsylvania but not up in Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't shake the feeling that Coburger has something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with that. Now, do I have any evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to offer you to back that up. I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a gut feeling of mind. But the MO

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<v Speaker 1>matches up almost perfectly. The probable cause Affidavid used to

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<v Speaker 1>justify Coburger's arrest said phone records indicated he had been

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<v Speaker 1>near the Moscow house on at least twelve occasions prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the murders, and that DNA link to him was

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<v Speaker 1>recovered from a knife sheath found near the scene. Police

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<v Speaker 1>have issued search warrants to Google, TikTok and dating app Tender,

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<v Speaker 1>requesting information on three of the victims going back to

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty twenty one. It's not just three victims, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all four victims plus a bunch of redacted names. And

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<v Speaker 1>you see, this is why we go through those court documents.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the court documents aren't as fun as

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<v Speaker 1>these updates that we do, but I find that they're

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<v Speaker 1>crucial for us to know what's going on. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>trust the legacy media to keep us up to date.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't trust the legacy media to have their story straight.

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<v Speaker 1>They never do. Now that doesn't mean nobody in the

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<v Speaker 1>legacy media has their shit together, but the vast majority

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<v Speaker 1>of these people in the legacy media are nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>than screen reading mouthpieces. So that's why we continue with

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<v Speaker 1>the long journey to the top of the mountain when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the core documents. Also, yesterday News Nation

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<v Speaker 1>was reporting that one of the victim's IDs was found

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<v Speaker 1>in the possession of Brian Coberger. So let's dive into

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<v Speaker 1>this article from News Nation and let's see what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>Headline sources ID from Idaho killings found in coburger home searches. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's significant. If that's for real and that's not just

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor. If that's actual fact, then Brian Coberger's cooked,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the people over on the Brian Coberger

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<v Speaker 1>read it for him, they're all going to be pretty depressed.

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<v Speaker 1>This article was authored by Chris Cuomo and Tyler Warnell,

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<v Speaker 1>and idconnected to someone from the quadruple homicide Moscow, Idaho,

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<v Speaker 1>was found during one of the searches of Brian Colberger's residences.

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<v Speaker 1>News Nation has exclusively learned. Police also believe they have

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<v Speaker 1>evidence connecting Coburger to alleged cyber stocking of someone from

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<v Speaker 1>the Moscow residence where four University of Idaho students were

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<v Speaker 1>killed in November. Police arrested Coburger in Pennsylvania at his

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<v Speaker 1>parents' home roughly six weeks after the fatal stabbings. Court

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<v Speaker 1>documents have revealed police used DNA left on the knife

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<v Speaker 1>sheath at the scene to link him to the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty damning stuff, folks. If this turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be true and they did find the ID, the

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<v Speaker 1>party's over. How else would he come into possession of

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<v Speaker 1>that ID. And then if they do find that ID

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<v Speaker 1>on him, or if they did find it on him,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that circumstantial evidence that all of these contrarians

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you doesn't matter, Oh boy, does it

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<v Speaker 1>loom large. Then you see all of these people out

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<v Speaker 1>here who were talking about Coburger being innocent or how

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<v Speaker 1>the affid David doesn't add up. They don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>else the government has. And let me tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>the government never shows up with all of their evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>They always have some stuff in reserve. They're gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>for discovery to drop everything on Brian Coburger, and with

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<v Speaker 1>a gag order, we're not even gonna know what comes

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<v Speaker 1>up in that discovery until we get into a courtroom. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is indeed true, Coburger certainly already knows that

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<v Speaker 1>the government knows that the ID was found. A search

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<v Speaker 1>warrant unsealed earlier this year revealed police seised IDs from

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<v Speaker 1>Coburger's car, but it did not specify to whom they belonged.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember in the AFFID David. In the search warrant, they

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<v Speaker 1>had the listings of the things they took and it

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<v Speaker 1>was IDs in like a SoC or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big deal. That is a smoking license. Retired

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<v Speaker 1>FBI agent Jennifer Kofendaffer said Thursday, Cuomo, just like the

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<v Speaker 1>sheath was a smoking sheath found next to Maddie with

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<v Speaker 1>his DNA on that clasp. It's the same thing in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation. Why would he have an ID related to

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people from that house. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>good question, and it's on point. There's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>excuse that or explain it. The bodies of Xana kernodle

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogan, and Kaylee Gonsalbez were found November

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth inside the off campus rental house they lived in.

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<v Speaker 1>All were stabbed to death. In addition to the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>found on the knife sheath, police say cell phone tower

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<v Speaker 1>data puts Coburger near the scene of the crime immediately

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<v Speaker 1>after the killings. Police have not yet recovered the murder weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>Police would not officially confirm the details of the license

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<v Speaker 1>due to a gag order in the case, but high

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<v Speaker 1>profile trial attorney Mark Garrigo said it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>hurdle for the defense if presented in court. Yeah, no, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>like a five hundred foot hurdle. How are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to jump over that one? How are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>explain that you have the ID of a dead person

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<v Speaker 1>with all of the other evidence that's been compiled against you.

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<v Speaker 1>So if this is indeed true, then the party's over

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<v Speaker 1>for Coburger, And it's not a matter of if the

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<v Speaker 1>conviction's coming, it's just a matter of when. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to do it for this one. All of

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<v Speaker 1>the information that goes with the episode can be found

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<v Speaker 1>in the description box.