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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to Set and four,

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Episode twenty five of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Mockler,

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joined by Adam Oslin and William Updyke. We hope you're

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having a good start to your week. We hope your

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we're your favorite Clippers podcast. If you're listening to us,

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thank you. If you'd like to watch us, you can

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find us at YouTube dot com at Clippers Podcast. Kind

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of some a weird break for the Clippers. We have

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like multiple days without a game and then a lot

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of games in not very many days. But the clips

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go one and two over the three and four. It

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was very kind of close and weird. Will how are

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we feeling after after the three and four?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 3: I mean a little bit of a bummer way to

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end it out. Uh, you know understandable us is certainly

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in the in the Lakers one, you know, being down Kawhi,

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being down Collins, that's a tough go Mathurin fouling out

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his technical foul. I don't know, it's so tough. It's

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so tough with those ones like to whether to treat

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it as an encouraging loss given given everything right like that,

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you know, what was the Lakers excuse? Like, literally everything

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went their way, and uh if Nick if Nick Batoum,

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you know, ends up making that three at the end,

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who knows how, who knows how things go, But uh.

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Speaker 2: It's it's bittersweet for sure. For sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that you said bittersweet. We had. The

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Collins concussion was super weird. I was really happy that

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they were able to battle back after that. But yeah,

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three games separated by six points out of it was

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a stressful return to Clippers basketball, not surprisingly, I.

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Speaker 4: Guess, losing the last too by two three pointers, one

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to tie it against the Lakers and one to win it.

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That was a good look from benedickcmatherin. That's that's tough.

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You felt like you lost two coin flip games. You

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should get one of them. Maybe some thought they shouldn't

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have got the Nipper Nuggets game. So things are evening out.

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But yeah, the Lakers game. A little bit salty about

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that one, just how it ended, and yeah, fans were upset,

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of course.

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Speaker 1: I think the technical foul being rescinded is like, dude,

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just like.

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Speaker 4: That, and you don't normally see coach lou like that.

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Post game. Yeah, post game I mean, I see people

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in the chat all the time like he doesn't care

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and he's too nonchalant and this and that. It's like,

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I don't know, I've seen him pretty upset sometimes. It's

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just you know, he's usually measured and even keel, and

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so something has a lot more weight when he actually

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does upset because it's not very often.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting too, like his quote where

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he was kind of like he was upset about the

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reps and then he said like does that look like

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a team that's not fucking trying to win games out there?

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And I think that was more about like why are

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the rest short changing our guys out there? Like because

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there was some like weird stuff made of like the

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Kawhi contender stuff and those quotes, but I think Tyler

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was mostly just mad at the refs for not giving

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the clips a fair shot. Yannick had a good little return.

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He played sixteen minute damn minutes straight and had like

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a pretty clutch block versus the magic. I mean, Adam,

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you're addicted to Yanick. You were the first guy with

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a balloon full of.

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Speaker 4: Yannick that you were in haalin Umber League.

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Speaker 1: Do we think, uh, haggle, no haggle. He will match

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Zubots in career triple doubles for the Clippers with one.

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Speaker 4: No haggle, no haggle.

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Speaker 1: He's already got him in three.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at a long career with him, so he's

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got plenty of.

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Speaker 1: Right once we get into point you on it in

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the Mathine experience, I kind of just wanted, like, how

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do we like the math Roine experience so far? I

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do have one disclaimer for people, if you're going to

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abbreviate his first name, it's two ends. It is not

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one end. That is the thing that I learned from

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Pacers Twitter, and.

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Speaker 4: They got on me for that. I posted Kawhi giving

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him a dap up after he missed that shot, giving

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him some encouragement. People are like two ends, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Don't get you. The Canadian they are polite, but they

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will get you if you mess up with Ben. But yeah,

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I don't know. It's like great home debut. He missed

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the game winner, but we liked it, Like I'm having

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a good time on the math Roine experience.

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Speaker 2: He's been incredible so far.

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Speaker 3: His ability to get downhill is even better, like getting

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to watch it up close right now. Like, you know,

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we saw him in that finals run obviously, you know,

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the Pacers as an organization, we're high on him.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been very impressed. I've still been very impressed.

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Speaker 1: He is a guy. It's funny that, like the eye

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test crowd versus the stat heavy crowd is like very

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divided with Mathrit. But I think him in the context

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of this Clippers team, it's been everything. Like offensively, that's

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what the Clippers have needed. Like the defense, yes, that

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could be a little bit better. But when Kawhi is

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not on the court, Mathron has to get buckets. And

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that's kind of what's been the case with how Tyler's

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rotating and they don't share the court very often.

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Speaker 3: But like I think too, Like if you're squinting, you know,

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and you're like thinking about a future of a backcourt

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with him and Garland as running mates. You know, you

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got Kawhi and Collins out their space in the floor.

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Speaker 2: Possibly even Yannick if you want.

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Speaker 3: To go, if you want to go at the world,

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the world, It's I don't know, man, I think it's

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pretty interesting. Again, I'll like, I'll circle back to my

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point from like the trade deadline, which is that, like,

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regardless of what happens with this year, Uh, you know,

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I still think ultimate the most likely scenario is the

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Clippers end up in the play in are able to

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battle their way into a playoff spot.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: They're in a better spot than they would have been

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pre pre these acquisitions, given given the highest ceiling outcome

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for for this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the future point for sure, Adam your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're for sure with the higher

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ceiling this season, only because you know, they lost their

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defensive anchor. But Lopez has done a good job so far.

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If Darius Garland comes back and really hits the ground running,

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like I need to see that first, you know, But

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it's possible. And I'm just saying for a while, getting

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the seven eight, win that matchup, get the two seven

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matchup against San Antonio, that's it doesn't mean you're gonna

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beat him. I'll have a better shot against them, and okay, see,

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I think as long as they don't end up the

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number one seed because San Antonio is still winning and.

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Speaker 3: I'm meant ceiling as like a developmental thing, not necessarily

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a deep playoff run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like future like watching math in and just and

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maybe it's just because we've watched because we've had Kawhi

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and Harden for so long and we watched that version

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of the Clippers, Like him getting to the line is

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fantastic to see, like he does all the little stuff.

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Yanick got into it. What are the games back? Yanick

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got into it. I think with someone from the Lakers

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and like Math jumped straight into like defend Yannick. He's

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fit really well too, vibe wise, Like it feels like

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he's fit seamlessly into what the team is about. And

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to what Adam you were talking about when Kawhi after

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he misses that game winner and goes up to him

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and is like, hey, great, like that, we want you

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to take that shot. We'll get it next time. Like

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the the meshing is very good. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think part of it is they they've identified the

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right guys that would fit well. And then also they

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get in house and this Clippers culture surrounds them, and

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I think they're getting more out of guys because of that.

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I don't think it was a shock or I don't

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think it's a coincidence that his first three games he

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had three steals in all three games and he had

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never done that before. Yeah, me and the coaching staff

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deserves credit. I think they're getting a lot out of

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him right now. Some of it could be only he's

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motivated for a contract coming up this summer. That's always

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a dangling carrot for players. But I love seeing him

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do all the little things because shots are going to

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come and go with him. You know, he's a gunner

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out there and he's gonna have cold nights. But the

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way you have a high floor is to do the

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little things the right way, and that that way you

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can can contribute regardless of if shots are falling.

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Speaker 3: Clippers culture surrounds you, as also the name of my

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Clippers theme sensual R and B album, You're Gonna look that.

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Speaker 1: You and You and Victor Oladipa on the track. Yeah. Yeah.

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Looking at his contract, we're gonna get into a nickname

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discussion in a in a couple of minutes too, because

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we were texting about that. It's gonna be twenty four,

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it's gonna be a restricted free agent after this season.

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Speaker 2: Wants to go to the Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: What's called the Nuggets. I wonder what his contract is

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gonna look like it's and what the Clippers are gonna.

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Speaker 2: What is he averaging for the Clippers? Like twenty seven?

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Speaker 1: Get out of here Basketball Reference, He's averaging twenty two,

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twenty two, six and four and two steals in five games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's and.

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Speaker 1: His three point shooting is not anywhere close to what

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it usually is. He's shooting twenty five percent from three

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as a Clipper, and his career average is like thirty

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six percent. So I wonder, interesting, well, we have the

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space for it theoretically, Adam, what would you give mathin

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right now as a twenty four year old.

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Speaker 4: I think if the Clippers could find a way to

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get Matherine and John Collins and pay them a combined

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forty million this summer annually, that would be good shape

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for them. That would be good business.

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Speaker 1: That would be very good business for the Clippers. I

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don't know how good a business it would be for

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you of those player, man.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's that crazy. Yeah, I know I

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Speaker 2: Why had Collins at like twenty five?

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Speaker 1: But I might just have been very high on Collins

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because he was crushing it.

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Speaker 4: So like a million less than what he's doing right now.

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Speaker 3: Basically, Yeah, for like three or four years. How old

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Speaker 4: I mean they're only going to have right now, like

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forty five million right to play with. So I'm just saying,

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if you want to keep both of them, if you

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get them both for forty.

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Speaker 1: No, I want that. I'm pro that. I do like

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it's nice that Matherin's restricted. That's key because Collins is unrestricted.

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Speaker 4: Right yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, hope he's doing okay? That fall was crazy?

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Did he all right? Nickname ideas if you're listening or watching,

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please weigh in on this. We have the math let

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which is a fantastic option, and then and then chaos theory,

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which I like both of these options. He does not

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have a listed nickname on Basketball Reference, which I was

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kind of surprised by. We can take this, We'll take

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this to Twitter probably will What are you leaning towards

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the most important thing? We'll figure out all season.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I guess I'm liking mathlete. It is I'm

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liking mathlete.

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Speaker 1: When he gets text it's very chaos. It's like it's

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a little chaos theory because sometimes it is a bit

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of a roller coaster with mister Mathrin sometimes, yes, so

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maybe chaos theory is a certain mode he's in and

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he's always the mathlete.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, chaos theory. I mean, I don't know, he's not

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Dennis Rodman out there or something.

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Speaker 1: Like sure.

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Speaker 2: Use the Nuggets this summer. It will be Bennett Donald.

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Speaker 1: That's that's great right there. Yeah, chaos theory is a

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insane person, what are you about saying.

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into chaos theories.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we're we're cooking with gas there, mathlete.

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It is the winner right now. Ultimately Brian Semen will

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decide this whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like we gotta keep.

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Speaker 4: Sip something much better than both, like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey hey he's five games in right, we're we're

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it's an iterative process.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we may have to wait till they bring it

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back because if you go somewhere else. We gave him

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this great nickname that would be upset Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll trademark it. We'll trademark the nickname. Yeah, we'll

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figure that out. And then before we talk about the

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upcoming schedule. We have Kawhi Ankle Watch. Twenty twenty six,

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We are back with ankle Watch. He had to leave

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the Lakers game a little early due to the lingering injury.

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game to play anyways, just been a lingering injury. He's

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still battling through it.

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Speaker 3: The Twitter sludes were pretty convinced that that one was

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a little fishy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Twitter was, But I don't maybe watch the second

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half of the game again and see that he is laboring.

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Speaker 1: He did not look one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred Also like Quebono man, like, the Clippers aren't trying

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to throw games, so I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's wrapped up with a frigging bow on it. U. Yeah,

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what's the level of concern with thank We don't have

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the injury report for the Thursday game yet, but I

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do have in the back of my mind. There's eighteen

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games coming up in March.

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Speaker 4: It depends how long he's been dealing with it, which

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I think is a little bit murky. Honestly, I'm not

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sure for All Star Break. Sounds like it was going

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on for a bit and.

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Speaker 2: He obviously didn't rest over the All Star Break.

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Speaker 4: No, he bawled out.

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Speaker 3: And it's also been like, like I feel like it's

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been alternatively referred to as soreness and stiffness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, okay, so what is it? Yeah, in

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my head, those are two different things.

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injury or lingering thing than the other.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. Again, I'm not a doctor.

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Speaker 4: The logic that he used postgame the other night of

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why he didn't push it, he went back to locker room,

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it didn't loosen up. He only had two more minutes left.

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entire next game. That made total sense.

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Speaker 2: To saying big conspiracy, Like.

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Speaker 4: Either way, he's not going to play the last three

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minutes of the game, right, and then you don't want to, Yeah,

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worsen it to the point you're not playing the entire

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next game, which he did play and he played well,

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very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's interesting he.

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Speaker 4: Was moving, he looked to be moving. He didn't look

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like the second half against the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did not.

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Speaker 2: He was not on Kawhi.

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Speaker 1: There was some aspiration. There's been like weird aspiration rumors

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popping up.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: We had that great quote. I can't remember who it said,

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but it was like.

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Speaker 1: The the recent upswing in league speculation, Like that's the

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verbiage we're getting for these aspiration rumors. Kawakami says, a

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lot of rumors of this Clippers thing. I think it's

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gonna be Kawhi centric. It's gonna be either contract voided

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or suspension. No, it's gonna be less about the Clippers,

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and wharabout's gonna happen to Kawhi. I don't understand how

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voiding his contract makes it not about the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: Did you see what else he said? Quote? I literally

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said on the podcast not to aggregate this because I

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was just speculating. And there you go, aggregating it incorrectly.

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Wonderful Clipper nature. Clipper Nation isn't raised. I love aggregators

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so much. Note if you're furious at me, this was

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aggregating correctly. Somebody pulled the sound from it in the

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twenty second clip and then posted that I'm gonna tell

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you what's actually going on here. The trade deadline is over,

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and so people need to have rumors to get attention

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right now, and this is the story that is hanging

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over the league currently and we don't know when it's

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going to break. I don't buy that anybody knows exactly

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more than educated guesses. But they're the experts. So when

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they put something out there, it gets attention. And this

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is part of the job and the news breaking business.

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That's why the vague words being used and all that.

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Speaker 3: I just want to like, I just want to say too,

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like if this were the case, like I just don't

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see any sort of punishment being Kawhi centric because that

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league still has to go through the Players Association, but

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you and like one of the strongest, if not the

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strongest union in professional sports. Like I don't really think

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they're gonna let They're gonna like leave someone like hang

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someone up to dry in a situation like this, like

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from what the league can do punitively, it just makes

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sense that if they were going to do something, it

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would affect the organization as they have more direct control

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over that governing body than they do having to involve

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the Players Association. That's just my like logic take on it.

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That's it.

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Speaker 4: I mean association would immediately appeal it, like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no especially a player of Kawhi's caliber. There's

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just like, there's no way they're leaving him to hang

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like hanging out to dry on.

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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 1: And it, yeah, it becoming a huge it becoming a

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huge union thing is not and this is not to

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say like wrongdoing or not. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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a significant upswinging league wide speculation. Thank you, samm.

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Speaker 4: Who's the guy, Tod Haber Shrow? Yeah, you like, he's

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done some really good and thorough work, but his conversation

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about it, he's just spitballing. And then people take that

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and they start to think it was Kawhi gonna end

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up a laker, He's gonna end up being a free

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and all these end up going after them, and it's

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just it creates content and that's about it. But nobody

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has any idea.

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Speaker 1: And it creates things for prediction markets who are playing

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all of you for fools, So stop putting your money

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in those things. Final practice note Garland Practicing sort of

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started controlled live play, which includes for the first time

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that we've heard of, will you'll appreciate this three on

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three and four on four?

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Speaker 2: Okay, now we're talking.

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Speaker 1: I always want that to happen.

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Speaker 3: That's a progression. That's a progression. That's a that's an

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eighty percent of practice reps. You're uh, you're right there.

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I'm liking that. It's encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the explosive box jump watch?

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if we're there yet. They

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might have banned that exercise from the clippers.

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Speaker 3: So I've seen people like my age, like thirty is like,

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I see more knee injuries in like the crosswit community, like, oh,

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this is not this is not the time to be

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to be attempting weighted explosive box jumps in your life.

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Just just throwing that out there as a as a PSA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any PSA is on explosive box jumps or excitement

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Garland practicing.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you're taking your glucosamine or whatever for your joints.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Adam's doing them. He's strong, it don't matter.

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Speaker 2: He's good. Yeah, Adam, I.

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Speaker 4: Did some squats a box shot, dude.

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Speaker 1: Box jumps at the gym. You see like the videos

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of people like slipping, like when you hit the top

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and you slip out, and you're just like no, man, like.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need to be that explosive?

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Speaker 1: Right? What do you like unweighted?

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Speaker 3: I think fine, like body weight, but like with the

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bar bellt like, what are you trying to prove?

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Speaker 4: A lot of it looks like looky, look at me,

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Louis or whatever. People say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Also, the guy dropping his deadlifts so loud in the corner.

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It's like, yes, don't care, I didn't come here to

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listen to you. You know what make you strong? You

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have to drop it like that.

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Speaker 1: Keep the tension you're saying, yeah, you're okay, you're saying

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controlled movements.

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Speaker 2: It's performative.

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Speaker 4: Performing the same people on a machine and they get

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up to the top and they just drop the stack.

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It's like, no, keep the tension. That will make you stronger.

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Chop trying to get attend, keep the tension, forget the attention.

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There we go.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna add more Jim Talk to the Patreon. So

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if you've been hurting from more Jim talk from clips

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and Dipple, have that on the Patreon. Uh. Coming up,

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we're gonna be talking the upcoming schedule, which is a

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five in seven starting on Sunday. If you're listening to this,

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there's gonna be an audio break. If you're watching us,

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we will still be here, so quick audio break and

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then part two coming up in Free Too.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clips and Dip. We talk

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the current.

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Speaker 3: State of the Clippers, who have a couple of days

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off before they end the month on a hellish stretch

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which is just sort of the initiation into yet another

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hellas March. This is an annual tradition for the Clippers

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for the show, but.

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Speaker 4: The show, what the schedule is this way? Just so

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Chuck and talk about March every year. Adam Sober lines

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it up like that.

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Speaker 3: Chuck has a lot of influence it with the scheduling.

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We don't really talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's okay, it's fine. It's not a big deal.

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Speaker 4: So you like the back to backs, Chuck, you're sick bastard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them the Clippers. Yeah, they play the

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Wolves on Thursday and then five and seven starting on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a weirdly winnable five and seven over

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that stretch. Bringing a can you screen chair?

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Speaker 1: You're looking at the dock right now. So after knock,

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after the Wolves they play versus the Pels, then at

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the Warriors back to back, then the Pacers. The Vision

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Spurs at Grizzlies, Pels Warriors, Pacers Spurs Grizzlies. There's some

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I think they could get a little something.

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Speaker 2: Throw the game to the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: I mean sure, I think they could get going something

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at the beginning there, Pells Warriors. Back to back is

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not the worst way to start a five and seven, right,

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am I crazy?

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Speaker 4: This is the most winnable five and seven of all time?

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Speaker 1: I think it might. I'm like, look, just go three

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and two, Just go three and two over the five

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and seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sevil back two, four and one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, throw the Pacers game, win the rest.

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Speaker 1: Win both the back to backs. That would be very

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twenty five twenty six Clippers to win both back to backs,

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lose the game to the team who's gonna be in

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the lottery. But I kind of like how it shakes out.

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I love this five and so for the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: I don't like it's starting with the Wolves. Yeah, we're

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going to be very hungry after what the Clippers did

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to them in Minnesota like a week and a half ago. Ohkawa,

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I dropped that forty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Clippers won turnovers by seven, shot fifty two from

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three as a team. Oh, this stat about Chris Dunn

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that Justin Russo tweeted out tickled my brain. Uh, Chris

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Dunn has not has gone one hundred and one straight

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minutes without attempting a three pointer, shooting thirty seven percent

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from threes on this stretch, and had just gone four

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of six prior to this one hundred and one minute

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drought without a three point attempt. What do we think

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is going on?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 1: Are we finding better shots?

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Speaker 4: Oh, they're not even taking threes right now? What do

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they take twenty one against the Lakers, twenty three or

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twenty four last time out? It's been rough. They're not

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generating three point shots. And I think that, Yeah, I

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think it's a symptom of not having a point guard

471
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,000
getting two feet in the paint consistently and drive kickswing,

472
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and Chris down has done an admirable job and he's

473
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had some really good games. Assist to turnover wise last

474
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,200
time out, I don't think he had an assist because

475
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,240
guys were missing so many. But overall he's been fine.

476
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I do think it's not affecting him so much defensively,

477
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,640
this amount of workload offensively that he's been asked to

478
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do without James Harden and know Darius Garland so far,

479
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,599
I think it is taking something maybe out of his

480
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,440
legs from three though, like he's just not even firing now,

481
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,319
and maybe he's not in that position anymore because he's

482
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the one that's trying to start the action sometimes to

483
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get the offensive set going. Yeah, so it's not ending

484
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:02,759
with the ball in his hands.

485
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. And I guess I'm like

486
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with the with a shooter like Chris Dunn, who, yes,

487
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he is shooting thirty seven percent this year. He's a

488
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,240
real high volatile guy. He could go one for six

489
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,440
in a game from three, you know what I mean.

490
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So I'm not necessarily like upset and him not taking

491
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,759
these threes, you know what I mean, Like if they're

492
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not there, no one's really shooting well right now, which

493
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,559
is like what I'm kind of worried about in this

494
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,200
Wolves game. But yeah, if he's passing to him, yeah,

495
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,680
we it's gonna be fantastic for Darius Carlin to be

496
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,960
ready for this Clippers team. I like that who was

497
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,640
passing to him?

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a real like a break in

499
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,519
the chain or something way where you just don't have

500
00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:01,119
the piece you are missing is so by of not

501
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,839
having that traditional point guard out there, and I think

502
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:06,480
it's really is taking as toll the last few games.

503
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,279
Just offensively, they're not the same team. They're not generating

504
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:13,039
the same looks they normally get, like taking under thirty

505
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920
three pointers or under twenty five three pointers like they

506
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,200
have the last couple of games. That's a pretty rare thing.

507
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Not that they're the highest volume three point shooting team,

508
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,880
but they actually have had some really high volume games.

509
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But they were coming when James Harden was playing right,

510
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and I think they'll get back to it when Garland's back.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, before that, we are playing the Wolves, who take

512
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,880
twelve more three point at times per game than the Clippers,

513
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,039
at least during the month of February. Do we how

514
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:44,599
many threes do we think Anthony Edwards takes after going

515
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000
one of eight against the Clippers, He's gonna try and

516
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:51,599
kill the Clippers on Thursday, which.

517
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Speaker 4: He's getting nine or ten up.

518
00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Personally six, Well, that would either mean the first quarter. Yeah,

519
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,519
I'll just say that, either mean things are going well

520
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,640
for the Clippers because we're forest racing the bottom his hands,

521
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:14,240
or he's just getting to the paint relentlessly. The Wolves

522
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440
are playing the Blazers tonight, so the Clippers do need

523
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,000
the Timberwolves to win tonight to help the standings out.

524
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,039
We would be tied with the Blazers. I believe the

525
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,480
last game, I don't want to say Kawhi had forty

526
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,039
one Adam, Is Kawhi getting forty one again? Are we

527
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,640
beating the Wolves for the second time this month?

528
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Speaker 4: I think we're beating them, But I don't think he's

529
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,359
going to need the forty one because the math leat

530
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,440
is there and he wasn't there for that first game,

531
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,519
so someone else can supplement the scoring a little bit

532
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,799
for him. But I'll take thirty plus.

533
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, we'll take thirty plus.

534
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:59,079
Speaker 1: We'll need if you're giving it away, I'll take the bender,

535
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:03,759
I'll take. I'll take twenty three points from Kawhi and

536
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,319
elite defense, not that it's not always elite, but you

537
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,839
what I'm talking about with kind of the statement when

538
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
they had last time out against the Wolves, that would

539
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,480
be nice to see. I like that and had a

540
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,799
good I'm a little worried about. So we got the

541
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center rotation. Will which centers start in this game? I'm

542
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,559
thinking I'm thinking Lopez. Probably, Lopez got to be experienced.

543
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,160
I don't Yes, Gobert is not very good offensively, but

544
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,680
I know like Yannick's chances get Cobert to start the game.

545
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: It's also Lopez, even though he hasn't been shooting it

546
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,640
well this season, he does have a reputation of being

547
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,000
a three and D stretch big, and you want that

548
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,880
against Cobert to bring him out to the perimeter. Yeah,

549
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,559
Joanick maybe getting closer.

550
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Speaker 1: He's got a great guy to learn from Lopez. Had

551
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,640
Lopez had some good flashes over the three and four

552
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,079
when he was playing inside the three point line, it

553
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:04,640
was like, hell yes, Like he's passed out of the

554
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,279
shout role. He can do these traditional big things that

555
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,160
the Clippers do kind of need in the absence of

556
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,079
perhaps the most traditional center in the NBA in Zubats.

557
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:22,559
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've been very happy with brook Lopez and what

558
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,519
he's been able to do. And it sounded like it

559
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,559
wasn't so much that they just rode the hot hand

560
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:29,839
with Yanick. It was also because at one point it's

561
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440
like Brook Lopez is out for this long. We're not

562
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,559
going to thrust them back into the ball game cold

563
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,000
I guess that was also part of the logic against Orlando,

564
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:43,519
but Yannick was very impressive on the interior with that defense.

565
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: Well do you think do you think Collins comes back?

566
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,880
What do we expect from from Collins when he comes back?

567
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,039
Because that's a weird injury, just head injury in basketball,

568
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,880
you know what I mean. I hope he's Do we

569
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,039
think he starts when he's back?

570
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

571
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, he's good to go. Might as well start him.

572
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,519
Speaker 4: He wasn't in concussion protocol. They call it a laceration,

573
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:07,759
and next week.

574
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,039
Speaker 1: I have questions about how the NBA handles concussions and

575
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,599
I will leave it at that because that dude, like, dude,

576
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,319
like that was crazy. He was wobbly, man, he hit

577
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,400
his head on the damn floor. Like the NFL also

578
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,359
doesn't put people in concussion pro call. Well, I'm a

579
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:35,279
Dolphins fan. I have a horrific experience with this. Yeah,

580
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,480
we need Derek Jones Junior to be huge. This is

581
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,720
another one of those Derek Jones Junior is actually here

582
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,079
for the game that you say that this would be

583
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:44,480
a great game for Derek Jones Junior.

584
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Speaker 4: I think he had an opportunity to win that game

585
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,400
against Orlando. Unfortunately, he missed two threes late and missed

586
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,519
that runner, and the Clippers went two and a half

587
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:57,880
minutes scoreless. Well, I missed one two during that stretch,

588
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,799
Yannick missed that floater. I had a ton of faith

589
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,079
in DJ knocking those shots down. He had just been

590
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,759
making big shots in the fourth quarter the last two games.

591
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,000
He came up huge against Denver in the win late,

592
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and he had six points late against the Lakers when

593
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,359
the Clippers were missing all those guys. He just couldn't

594
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:15,599
get won the fall and.

595
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,559
Speaker 1: He was pissed at himself. You could see after he

596
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,519
missed that second three. It was an ideal. All right. Well,

597
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:26,160
who's your player of the game for Thursday against the

598
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t Wolves.

599
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Speaker 2: Mmm, I'm gonna go Mathern.

600
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,079
Speaker 1: He's gonna I think he's gonna quickly be on the

601
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,960
list of guys we can't pick, but he's.

602
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm picking.

603
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just been so impressive this far out

604
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,079
and seeing him against this level of competition with Kawhi

605
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:52,160
after that amazing win, He's gonna be something else.

606
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: Man.

607
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. I like that, Adam. Who is

608
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:56,960
your pick?

609
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Speaker 4: For player of the Game. We'll take a risk here,

610
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:02,960
going John Collins.

611
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,559
Speaker 1: I love it. We'll need to.

612
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: Need his three point shooting with the lack of three

613
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,000
pointers going up right now, it's not a total coincidence

614
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,199
they haven't had John Collins.

615
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Speaker 1: It's a good call.

616
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,159
Speaker 4: Second half against the Lakers and then the entire last game.

617
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Good call. I'm going Mathern is a great pick because

618
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,599
we're gonna need Bones. Higland is probably gonna shoot the

619
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,519
lights out because this is a quasi revenge game for

620
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,519
him as well. But I think Mathm will be able

621
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to answer that.

622
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,199
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm taking Bones skeleton key for you can't.

623
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go. I'm going Derek Jones Junior.

624
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,400
I'm going bounce back. He's gonna be upset, not that

625
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,639
he didn't play well, He's gonna be upset about missing

626
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,039
those shots late, and I think he's gonna have a

627
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:53,679
good game. I picked him last time we didn't play

628
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,800
the game, and it was a pretty good call. So

629
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,519
I think he's gonna keep making me look smarter than

630
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,159
I am. So I'm going Derek Jones Junior. Now, who's

631
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:04,199
your player for the five and seven? I'm just kidding

632
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,800
anything else, man, I'll tell you what.

633
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,679
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who we need March, Jarius Garland.

634
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,639
Speaker 1: That is what we need in March, because, like Adam

635
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:21,039
you were saying, I don't know how many more games

636
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,480
Chris Dunn has in this at him anything else before

637
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:28,159
we send people out for the rest of their week.

638
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: Drop the performance at the gym.

639
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: It's about you. It's about it's you, not them.

640
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: You're not Joey Swall, all right, and Joey Swall wouldn't

641
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,239
approve of your behavior at the gym.

642
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. We're gonna be doing a happy hour

643
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:54,119
hang on Friday at five thirty the usual time. Probably

644
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:58,719
a full episode episode out next Tuesday. Will where can

645
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,119
people the Olympics are over and people can really focus

646
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,639
on what is important like Clippers basketball a quasi rebuilding year.

647
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Where can people voice their discontent maybe if they haven't,

648
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:11,800
for no, put your.

649
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: Discontent in a drawer.

650
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: If you want to talk about great this show is,

651
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,880
you could do that over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

652
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,199
You can, of course listen to this show wherever you

653
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,440
get your podcasts, but the best way check out the

654
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,599
show is over on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers

655
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,239
podcasts comment on every single video there, you know, and

656
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,400
you might get put in time out or something if

657
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,280
you're being wild. But you know, however you listen to this,

658
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,559
however you watch this, you know that we appreciate you.

659
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: You will get on put time out for short in

660
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,679
our YouTube stream, Adam. Other than proper gym meticit, which

661
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:48,800
you've done a good job at giving people some tips

662
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,400
this episode. What is one positive thing to send Clippers fans.

663
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: Out of my athlete got the miss out of his

664
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:01,360
system with that game winner possibility on the left wing,

665
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,760
and for everybody hating on coach Lou like they didn't

666
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,000
have a five on four and they didn't draw an

667
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,360
open shot and they shouldn't have taken a three when

668
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,079
you know Kawhi is likely not going to be able

669
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:13,599
to extend minutes into ot so you don't want a

670
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:16,320
two in that situation. I mean, that was that was

671
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,199
a beautiful play. That was good process. Then we'll get

672
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,360
the result next time. I know he's confident in himself.

673
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719
I think we're pretty confident in Benictmathon as well.

674
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Speaker 1: Feeling good. We love the bend. All right, thank you

675
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,639
for hanging out. We will see you on Friday, and

676
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as always, let's go close