Speaker 1: I want you to try a little thought experiment with
me right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I am gay.
Speaker 1: So wherever you are, whatever you are doing, I want
you to just imagine waking up tomorrow morning. You open
your eyes, you know, you stretch, you look up at
the ceiling. But something feels profoundly just fundamentally.
Speaker 2: Different, like a weird intuition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You sit up and suddenly you realize there
is a brand new operating system running in your brain.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, right.
Speaker 1: Because you went to sleep with essentially the biological equivalent.
Speaker 2: Of ms dos right, very basic.
Speaker 1: Exactly, your brain was perfectly capable of basic survival. You
are highly proficient at hunting, gathering, staying warm, and maybe
I don't know, maybe fashioning a rudimentary hand axe out
of a piece of flint.
Speaker 2: The basics of human survival.
Speaker 1: Absolute basics. But overnight, completely without warning, the hardware changed.
You wake up with a literal quantum computer sitting behind
your eyes.
Speaker 2: That is a wild image.
Speaker 1: It is wild. Suddenly you put zess the capacity for
complex and tax and language. You have this innate ability
to grasp abstract mathematics. You can write poetry, You can
engineer structures that scrape the sky.
Speaker 2: You're self aware.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can look up at the stars and not
just see little points of light, but you can conceptualize
the vastness of the cosmos and honestly your own mortality,
which is heavy, very heavy. But here's the real kicker
of this whole scenario. It didn't take you a million
years of slow, incremental software updates to get there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a gradual evolution.
Speaker 1: No, it didn't happen through trial and error over ten
thousand generations. It happened seemingly overnight. You just woke up
and the new cond was already written, compiled, and executing.
Speaker 2: Which is just I mean, it defines everything we usually
think about human progress.
Speaker 1: It completely does. And so what if I told you
that when anthropologists and geneticists look back at the grand
timeline of human history, it doesn't actually look like that slow,
steady climb up a predictable evolutionary ladder that we all
saw in our middle school.
Speaker 2: Textbooks, right, the classic ape to man chart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, what if? Instead the story of us is
actually a series of sudden, massive, and entirely unexplained leaps, leaps.
Speaker 2: That are almost too sudden to make sense.
Speaker 1: Right leaps that might not be the result of random
genetic mutations, but something far more deliberate, something potentially engineered.
Speaker 2: Now that is a huge question.
Speaker 1: It is welcome to thrilling threads. I am so incredibly
glad you are here with us today because we are
embarking on a mission to piece together a massive, mind
bending historical puzzle.
Speaker 2: We really have a lot to get through today.
Speaker 1: We do. Today we are laying out a fascinating stack
of evidence for you. We are going to examine the
molecular DNA record, the ancient texts of the Hebrew Bible,
the mythologies of ancient China, and the buried war torn
sands of Iraq. It's massive scope, it is we are
going to challenge everything you thought you knew about human origins.
And joining me to navigate this labyrinth is our is
it an expert who has been painstakingly analyzing the intersections
between biology, archaeology and antient texts.
Speaker 2: Well, it is brilliant to be here, and I have
to say the material we are diving into today is
nothing short of paradigm shifting.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 2: But before we get into the weeds of you know,
genetics and ancient megaliths. I think it is crucial for
us and for you listening to establish a framework of
profound open mindedness.
Speaker 1: Absolutely essential, because.
Speaker 2: Usually when we talk about human origins, we put things
into strict, isolated boxes. Mainstream science goes in one box,
classical archaeology goes in another, and ancient religious or mythological
texts go into a third box labeled fiction. We are
taught that these fields are opposing forces.
Speaker 1: That they can't possibly overlap exactly.
Speaker 2: They're supposedly inherently at odds. But when you take the
walls of those boxes down, when you place the molecular
biological record right next to the Book of Genesis, or
when you place ancient architectural anomalies right next to Celeste myths,
you begin to see shocking, almost undeniable parallels.
Speaker 1: It is honestly eerie when you start laying them side
by side.
Speaker 2: It really is. Today, we aren't asking you to blindly
believe anything. We are going to look at hard, demonstrable facts.
We're going to look at ancient alternative theories, and we
are going to see exactly where those threads intertwine.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this and honestly there is no better
place to start than at the absolute beginning, the origin
of humanity itself.
Speaker 2: Ground zero, ground zero.
Speaker 1: So to set the stage, let's look at one of
the oldest and most widely known texts on the planet,
the Book of Genesis in the Torah, the Hebrew Bible.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It is a foundational story that theologians and scientists have debated,
argued over, and fought about for literal centuries, endless debates endless.
We all know the basic beats of the story. It
describes a creator, God making the first two humans, Adam
and Eve. But what I really want to focus on
is the specific mechanical language used in the original texts.
Speaker 2: Phrasing is so important here.
Speaker 1: It is The scripture says that humanity is formed out
of the dust of the earth, and then God breathes
life into this inanimate dust to make us alive. It
is described in the Hebrew texts as the rooche, the
breath of soul, the breath of vitality, this divine spark.
Speaker 2: Which is a very specific way to describe consciousness exactly.
Speaker 1: It explicitly suggests that the life force that makes the
human machine run is an external.
Speaker 2: Upgrade put in from the outside.
Speaker 1: Yes. For the longest time, the scientific community understandably viewed
this purely as a beautiful, poetic allegory for consciousness. But
then we hit the late twentieth century and the hard
science takes a wild, almost unbelievable turn that sounds suspiciously
like the Genesis story.
Speaker 2: It absolutely does. And this turn happens strictly in the
realm of hard, pure reviewed biology. We have go back
to nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, up until that point, there were massive scholarly disagreements
over how and where modern humans originated. I thought we
evolved simultaneously in different pockets around the globe, like.
Speaker 1: A group in Europe and a group in Asia just
evolving at the same time.
Speaker 2: Exactly the multi regional hypothesis. But in nineteen eighty seven,
the biological community was turned upside down by a monumental
genetic discovery. Scientists began analyzing the molecular DNA record, specifically
looking at something called mitochondrial DNA.
Speaker 1: Okay, so break that down for us. Why is mitochondrial
DNA so special?
Speaker 2: So to understand why this was such a breakthrough, we
need to briefly explain the mechanics of mitochondrial DNA or
mt DNA. Regular DNA in your nucleus is a mix.
You get half from your mother, half from your father,
and it all gets shuffled together like a deck of
cards every single generation.
Speaker 1: So it's a genetic mess exactly.
Speaker 2: That makes tracing it back thousands of years incredibly difficult,
if not entirely impossible. But mitochondrial DNA is different. It
sits outside the nucleus and the mitochondria the powerhouses of
the cell.
Speaker 1: I remember that from high school biology well.
Speaker 2: And crucially, it is passed down exclusively from the mother.
The father's sperm does not contribute mitochondrial DNA to the embryo.
Speaker 1: Wait, really, but none at all.
Speaker 2: None, Because it doesn't shuffle with the father's DNA, it
remains largely intact from generation to generation.
Speaker 1: Wait, let me make sure I'm visualizing this correctly. So
my mitochondrial DNA is an exact copy of my mother's,
which is an exact copy of her mother's and her
mother's going all the way back exactly.
Speaker 2: The only thing that changes it are very rare, very predictable,
random mutations over vast stretches of time. Geneticists actually call
this a molecular clock.
Speaker 1: A molecular clock.
Speaker 2: Yes, By counting the number of mutations in the mtDNA
of people alive today from all over the world, scientists
can basically run that clock backward.
Speaker 1: That is genius.
Speaker 2: And when they did this in nineteen eighty seven, the
results were staggering. They realized that the genetic lineage of
every single living person on Earth could be traced back
to a single localized population, and specifically to one single
female ancestor.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: This discovery is universally known in the scientific community as
mitochondrial Eve.
Speaker 1: Mitochondrial Eve. They literally named her Eve.
Speaker 2: They did. The science tells us that anatomically and intellectually
modern Hombo sapiens originated in one specific region in Africa,
and after becoming fully modern, this population spread out to
occupy Europe, Eastern Asia, and the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to ask, does this mean she was
the only woman alive on Earth?
Speaker 2: No, and that is a common misconception. To be completely
scientifically accurate, this doesn't mean she was the only woman
alive on the planet at that time. There were definitely
other females, Okay, But it means that in that specific
early human population. She was the only female who had
an unbroken, continuous chain of daughters that survived to pass
on that specific genetic inheritance to every modern personal live today.
Speaker 1: So everyone else's lineage just died out.
Speaker 2: Exactly, every other female lineage from that era eventually dead ended.
Speaker 1: Let's just pause and really process that for a second.
Because you have an ancient, deeply religious text that is
thousands of years old, written by people who didn't even
know what a cell was, let alone a molecule, and
this text points to a singular female ancestor named Eve,
from whom all modern humanity springs. It's wild. Then, thousands
of years later, in nineteen eighty seven, highly educated scientists
in white lab coats looking through electron microscopes that our
molecular code come out and say, actually, yes, every human
on Earth traces their modern genetic makeup back to one
single female ancestor.
Speaker 2: It is a staggering parallel.
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder if mainstream science and the Book
of Genesis are just using different vocabularies to point to
the exact same moment in ancient history.
Speaker 2: I think they absolutely are.
Speaker 1: But here's where things get really fascinating. When you look
at alternative historical theories, specifically the ancient astronaut theory, they
take this parallel and push it into incredibly provocative territory.
Speaker 2: They really take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: They suggest a thought experiment. What if the story of
Adam and Eve isn't an allegorical myth at all? What
if it is a literal historical record of an actual event.
But we as modern readers, have fundamentally misunderstood the technological context.
Speaker 2: This is where we have to look at the text
with fresh eyes. The alternative theory posits that Adam and
Eve were not magical figures sculpted from literal mud by
a man with a white beard in the sky. Instead,
they were the very first genetically manipulated human beings.
Speaker 1: Which changes everything it does.
Speaker 2: If you view the ancient text through the lens of
modern biotechnology, the Garden of Eden ceases to be a
mythical paradise. It becomes something much more tangible and frankly,
much more sterile like what It becomes a specific isolated
biological environment, essentially a controlled laboratory or a closed biosphere.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, a biosphere.
Speaker 2: According to this alternative hypothesis, this is the specific local
area where these newly genetically modified humans were placed. They
were kept safe from the harsh elements of the paleolithic
world to live, to begin breeding, and from where the
newly upgraded, advanced population of the planet eventually grew.
Speaker 1: So they were basically in a Petrie dish exactly.
Speaker 2: It strips the theology entirely out of the text and
replaces it with advanced genetic.
Speaker 1: Biology, which naturally brings us to the most famous, most
heavily analyzed element of that entire genesis story, the Tree
of Knowledge of good and evil. Ohkay, Because we all
know the classical iconography. We've seen the Renaissance paintings. There
is an apple, there is a snake, there is the forbidden.
Speaker 2: Fruit, right, the classic symbols.
Speaker 1: But if we are committing to this biological thought experiment,
we have to rethink the imagery. If we are talking
about genetic manipulation. What if the Tree of Knowledge wasn't
a literal tree with literal fruit.
Speaker 2: Well, look at the shape of a tree. Yeah, a
trunk that twists upward, branching out into a canopy. What
does that remind you of?
Speaker 1: It looks like DNA exactly.
Speaker 2: The altar aternative theory suggests that the Tree of Knowledge
is a brilliant, primitive symbolic representation of the double helical
DNA sequencing in our own bodies.
Speaker 1: That is, just my mind is blown.
Speaker 2: The theory suggests that roughly fifty thousand to seventy thousand
years ago, extraterrestrial or highly advanced non human entities engineered
this DNA.
Speaker 1: They went in and tweeched the code.
Speaker 2: They reached into our genetic code and fundamentally upgraded us,
granting us the profound intellectual abilities we possess today. In
this context, the fruit wasn't an apple, right, Eating the
fruit was the sudden biological acquisition of immense cognitive.
Speaker 1: Power, and adopting this technological reframing completely changes the concept
of the serpent.
Speaker 2: It changes everything about it.
Speaker 1: And by extension, it changes the entire theological concept of
Satan or the fallen angels or the demons of the
ancient world abspletely, because in the traditional Biblical narrative, the
soapin is the ultimate deceiver. It slithers up and tempts
Adam and Eve, telling them that if they eat from
the tree, their eyes will be open and they will
be like God.
Speaker 2: Right, the ultimate temptation.
Speaker 1: The alternative ancient astronaut theory recontextualizes this entirely. It suggests
that this wasn't a story of cosmic spiritual evil tempting
pure human innocence. Rather, it was an ancient, misunderstood account
of a mutiny.
Speaker 2: A literal conflict among the creators.
Speaker 1: Yes, a severe disagreement between different factions of these advanced
extraterrestrial scientists or creators.
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense when you frame it
that way.
Speaker 1: One faction, represented in the text by the Serpent, wanted
to share this genetic knowledge. They wanted to initiate this
intellectual upgrade, allowing humanity to possess advanced consciousness, self awareness,
and the capacity for higher reasoning.
Speaker 2: They wanted to help us exactly.
Speaker 1: But the other faction, the commanding officers, so to speak, strictly,
wanted to withhold it. They wanted humans to remain subservient,
essentially acting as biological.
Speaker 2: Workhorses, just a labor force.
Speaker 1: Incredible you say that, because as I was looking at this,
I realized it is essentially the exact same story as
the Greek myth of Prometheus.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you are entirely right.
Speaker 1: Think about it. In Greek mythology, Prometheus disobeys the commanding
gods on Mount Olympus. He comes down to earth and
gives mankind the gift of fire.
Speaker 2: In fire isn't just literal fire exactly.
Speaker 1: Historians widely agree that fire in this myth isn't just
literal flames to cook meat. It represents the spark of civilization, technology, metallurgy,
and advanced thought. Yes, and what happens to Prometheus because
he gives humanity this forbidden technological knowledge, He is severely
punished by Zeus. He is banished, chained to a rock,
and tortured. He is cast out fallen one, just like
the mutineers in the alternative Eden narrative who give humanity
the fruit of knowledge and are subsequently cast down from
heaven and labeled for eternity as evil fallen angels.
Speaker 2: It really shifts your entire perspectve on what original sin
might actually.
Speaker 1: Be, doesn't it. What if the sin that got humanity
kicked out of the garden wasn't a moral failure? What
if it wasn't disobedience to a loving creator but an
unauthorized technological and biological upgrade that violated the protocols of
an advanced species.
Speaker 2: It is a profound philosophical shift, and honestly, whether you
subscribe to the extraterrestrial hypothesis or the purely biological mainstream model,
both forced us to ask the exact same massive question,
which is, was our sudden intellectual leap the result of blind, random,
natural election or was it a deliberate, punctuated.
Speaker 1: Event because it happened so fast.
Speaker 2: Yes, even mainstream anthropologists like you've all Knowah Harari in
his book Sapiens, talk about the cognitive revolution. Harari notes
that around seventy thousand years ago, Homo sapiens suddenly, inexplicably
began doing things no other species had ever done, like
what We started building boats, we started trading, we started
painting brilliant art in caves, and we developed complex language.
Mainstream science admits that this leap was incredibly sudden, and
that we don't fully understand the genetic mutation that caused it.
Speaker 1: So the science admits there is a missing piece.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the alternative theorist just take that admitted scientific
mystery and insert an intelligent designer.
Speaker 1: I know what some of you listening are probably thinking
right now. Okay, this is a fun sci fi thought experiment,
but a snake. Why would an ancient text use a
reptile to represent an advanced alien scientist.
Speaker 2: It does sound like a stretch at first.
Speaker 1: It does, but if you look at global history, the
serpent has almost always been a symbol of medicine, hidden knowledge,
and healing.
Speaker 2: That is a great point.
Speaker 1: Think about the medical symbol we still use today on
ambulances and hospitals, the coducious. It is a staff with
two serpents intertwined around it, spiraling upward.
Speaker 2: It looks exactly like DNA.
Speaker 1: It looks exactly like the double helix of human DNA.
It is hiding in plain sight. But I do have
to play Devil's advocate here, go for it. I want
to genuinely push back on the motive. Let's say, for
the sake of the argument, that a super advanced alien
race capable of interstellar travel and precise DNA manipulation arrived
on Earth. Okay, why would they have such a messy,
chaotic disagreement about upgrading a bunch of primitive hominids?
Speaker 2: That is the big question.
Speaker 1: Was it an ethical dilemma like the prime directive in
Star Trek, where the absolute highest law is that you
must never ever interfere with the natural evolution of a
primitive species. Or was it something.
Speaker 2: Darker like they were threatened by us?
Speaker 1: Right? Did the commanding faction look at us, see our aggressive,
territorial primate nature, and think if we make them as
smart as we are, if they become like gods, they
won't be our servants anymore. Eventually they will become a
threat to us.
Speaker 2: That exact question is the crux of the debate within
these alternative historical circles. It really comes down to the
burden of power. How so well, if you possess the
technological capability to accelerate the evolution of a suffering primitive
species secure their disease, is to give them the ability
to build shelters and communicate, do you have a moral
obligation to intervene?
Speaker 1: Oh? Would you leave them to suffer exactly?
Speaker 2: Or do you have a moral obligation to leave them
alone to find their own destiny. The faction that supposedly
upgraded us, the Prometian faction, might have seen our latent potential.
Speaker 1: They felt bad for us.
Speaker 2: They might have felt empathy, wanting us to bypass millions
of years of brutal, painful, slow evolution. The commanding faction, however,
might have viewed us as a highly dangerous, unpredictable biological.
Speaker 1: Variable, which, to be fair to them, humans are pretty destructive.
Speaker 2: We absolutely are. But regardless of the specific motives of
these theoretical beings, we have to look at this empirically.
Speaker 1: Right back to the physical evidence.
Speaker 2: Yes, if we accept the premise that we were upgraded,
that we receive this massive influx of DNA knowledge, there
has to be physical evidence of that sudden change. The
hardware of the human body must have changed to accommodate
the new software.
Speaker 1: It has to be visible somewhere.
Speaker 2: Interestingly, the most profound piece of evidence for this biological
leap isn't hidden deep inside the folds of our brain tissue,
and it isn't buried underneath millions of years of ancient
dirt in the Great Riff Galley.
Speaker 1: Where is it.
Speaker 2: It is sitting right inside your throat at this very moment.
Speaker 1: Yes, the sudden, radically unexplained evolution of the human voice box.
This is where the biological mystery shifts from the theoretical
into the anatomically verifiable.
Speaker 2: It is my favorite part of this whole.
Speaker 1: Theory, because when you look at the stark physical differences
between human anatomy and the anatomy of our closest genetic cousins,
the great apes and the chimpanzees, the throat is a
staggering anomaly, completely different. Let's break down the mechanics of this.
A chimpanzee cannot speak. They are incredibly intelligent. They can
learn sign language, they can solve complex puzzles, but they
physically cannot speak.
Speaker 2: They lack the hardware.
Speaker 1: They do. They can vocalize, they can screech, they can hoot,
but they cannot produce the intricate, nuanced sounds required for
a complex syntactical language.
Speaker 2: Right. And why is that?
Speaker 1: Because in a chimpanzee and in almost all other mammals,
the larynx the voice box is positioned very high up
in the throat. This is actually a massive evolutionary advantage
for them.
Speaker 2: It keeps them safe.
Speaker 1: Because their lanynx is so high it separates the breathing
tube from the swallowing tube. A chimpanzee can drink water
and breathe at the exact same time without any risk.
Speaker 2: Of choking, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: A human infant can actually do this too for the
first few months of life, which is why they can
nurse and breathe simultaneously precisely.
Speaker 2: But as a human infant grows, something bizarre happens that
defies standard evolutionary logic. What happens the larynx descends. It
drops lower into the throat. Now anatomically, this creates a
shared pathway for both food and air, it creates a
massive biological vulnerability. Because our larynx is lower. Humans are
the only mammals on Earth that face a significante daily
risk of choking to death on our own food.
Speaker 1: We literally risk death every time we eat.
Speaker 2: Yes, from a strict Darwinian evolutionary standpoint, this makes zero sense.
Evolution favors traits that increase your chances of survival and reproduction.
Speaker 1: So why trade a safe throat for a dangerous one.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Trading a perfectly safe swallowing mechanism for a mechanism
that can easily kill you over a piece of meat
is a terrible trade off, unless, of course, the benefit
of that lowered larynx was so overwhelmingly powerful that it
outweighed the risk.
Speaker 1: Of death, and that benefit was the resonance chamber. Yes,
because the larynx drops, it creates this empty space, a
cavern in the throat. Combined with the incredible agility of
the human tongue, the lips, and the unique shape of
our hyoid bone, which by the way, is the only
bone in the human body that isn't attached to another bone.
It just floats there, we gain the ability to articulate.
Speaker 2: We can make fine sounds.
Speaker 1: We gain the ability to produce sharp consonants, the hard k,
the soft s, the rolling r. Many scientists and anatomis
who observe the human vocal cords note that they do
not look like a clumsy evolutionary accident.
Speaker 2: They look engineered.
Speaker 1: They look almost genetically designed to allow us to modulate pitch,
to form distinct words, and to sing. There is no
other species on Earth that possesses anything even remotely close
to this capability. Language is, without a doubt, the ultimate
advanced tool.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: It is the defining characteristic that separates humanity from every
other living organism.
Speaker 2: We also have to look at the genetics behind this hardware.
In the late nineteen nineties, geneticists discovered something called the FOXP.
Speaker 1: Two gene fosp two.
Speaker 2: Yes is widely referred to as the language gene. While
other animals have variations of FOXP two, the specific mutation
found in humans is entirely unique to us.
Speaker 1: So what does it do?
Speaker 2: If a human is born with a defective FOXP two gene,
they don't lose their intelligence, but they entirely lose their
ability to form complex grammar and articulate speech.
Speaker 1: Wow. So it is the literal CODEO for language.
Speaker 2: It is the specific piece of code that allows the
brain to control the intricate motor functions of the mouth
and throat to speak. And according to evolutionary biologists, this
specific human mutation of FOXP two appeared incredibly rapidly in
our evolutionary timeline. Just boom, there it is yes, and
language allows us to do something magical. It allows us
to pass down accumulated knowledge. A wolf can teach its
pup how to hunt, but it cannot tell the pupp
a story about a great hunt from ten years ago.
Speaker 1: It can't pass down history exactly.
Speaker 2: It cannot warn the pup about a storm coming next winter.
Language allows humans to cooperate in massive numbers, to build
intricate societies, and to conceptualize the past in the future.
Speaker 1: I always think about the profound emotional weight of language.
It is easy to talk about it as a tool
for survival, but it is so much more than that.
It is how we connect on a soul level. Absolutely,
it's not just about transferring data about where the best
berries are. It is about sharing profound grief, expressing deep
unconditional love, telling jokes that make a room erupt in laughter,
creating poetry that moves people to tears. It is the
human experience, all the different cultures, the thousands of gorgeous
dialects around the world. Our ability to communicate on such
an extensive, intricate level is the very foundation of being human.
If we were given a new operating system, language was
the user interface.
Speaker 2: That is a perfect analogy.
Speaker 1: But the question that keeps anthropologists awake at night is
who invented it? Where did the very first word come from?
How do you go from grunting to syntax?
Speaker 2: And that is a mystery that is incredibly frustrating for
researchers because archaeology has distinct hard limitations.
Speaker 1: You can't dig up a word exactly.
Speaker 2: We can dig up fossilized homited bones and study the
curvature of the spine to see exactly when our ancestors
started walking. Up right, we could dig up sharpened obsidian
stones to see how they hunted MANETs. We can find
the charred remains of ancient campfires.
Speaker 1: But you cannot dig up a sp word.
Speaker 2: The invention of language leaves absolutely no physical artifact in
the dirt until the ads end of writing, which comes
tens of thousands of years later. Science and history are
essentially scrambling around in the dark for answers regarding the
spark of speech.
Speaker 1: So we just don't know.
Speaker 2: Was it a slow, gradual evolution of grunts and hand
gestures over millions of years, or was it a sudden,
fully formed capacity instilled in us. What is fascinating here
is if traditional science cannot find the answer down here
in the dirt, if the fossil record cannot fully explain
the sudden appearance of complex language and the biological hardware
required for it. Yeah, perhaps we shouldn't be looking down
for the answers. Perhaps we should be looking up.
Speaker 1: There, which brings us perfectly to the next thread we
need to pull. Because once humanity possessed this incredible sudden gift,
of advanced language. What is the very first thing they
naturally tried to do.
Speaker 2: They try to use it.
Speaker 1: They tried to use it. They tried to record their history,
to make sense of their environment, and crucially, to describe
the very events or beings that triggered their awakening. But
I want you to really visualize this problem. Imagine you
are a newly conscious, brilliant human being living ten thousand
years ago. You have the exact same brain capacity you
have right now. You are not stupid.
Speaker 2: No, ancient people were very smart.
Speaker 1: But your entire technological vocabulary consists of rocks, trees, fire, clouds,
and animals. Now, imagine a modern fighter jet descends from
the sky and lands in front of you. How do
you describe it to your tribe. You don't have the
words fuselage, thrust, aerospace, or titanium. So what do you do.
You look to the natural world. You use the words
you already possess. You look for the closest possible approximation.
You call it a screaming iron bird that breathes fire.
Speaker 2: This is a vital conceptual tool to grasp when analyzing
any ancient text. It is the concept of mythological translation.
Speaker 1: Mythological translation.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have to constantly remind ourselves of what you
just said. Our ancient ancestors were highly intelligent. There were brilliant,
meticulous observers of the natural world. They tracked the complex
movements of the stars with astonishing accuracy without telescopes. However,
their technological frame of reference was entirely limited to the
natural world. If they witnessed an event involving advanced mechanics,
celestial navigation, or aerial flight, they didn't have the lexicon
to describe it.
Speaker 1: Literally, didn't of the words.
Speaker 2: They had to use the imagery of animals, weather patterns,
and nature to describe the indescribable. When an ancient text
says a god arrived in a chariot of fire, we
shouldn't assume they literally meant a wooden cart pulled by
horses that was inexplicably on.
Speaker 1: Fire, right, because that makes no sense.
Speaker 2: We should ask what advanced mode of transportation involves intense light, heat,
and aerial movement that an ancient person would translate as
a chariot of fire.
Speaker 1: Let's apply that exact lends to some specific history. Because
this is where the puzzle pieces start snapping together. Let's
look deep into ancient Chinese mythology dating back to roughly
three thousand BC.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at it.
Speaker 1: The historical texts introduce us to the birth of a profound,
legendary figure named wang D, who was universally known as
the Yellow Emperor.
Speaker 2: A massively important figure in Chinese history.
Speaker 1: Massive now, right from the jump, the texts are explicit
about his origins. His birth and arrival were accompanied by
a radiance, a brilliant, blinding light from the great star Shei.
Speaker 2: So immediately connecting him to the stars.
Speaker 1: He didn't just wander into the village from the next
valley over. His origins are explicitly deliberately tied to the stars,
to a celestial phenomenon, and the story goes that the
Han Chinese people at this time were suffering immensely.
Speaker 2: It was a very hard time.
Speaker 1: They were living in poverty in a land that was
beautiful but incredibly harsh. They were disorganized, starving, and inconstant chaos.
The gods, looking down from the heavens with empathy, took
pity on them, and so wang D decides to come
down to earth to intervene.
Speaker 2: It is his mode of transportation that is so heavily
scrutinized by alternative historians.
Speaker 1: Yes tell him how he traveled.
Speaker 2: According to the ancient Chinese texts, Wang D arrived on
planet Earth and subsequently traveled around the continent in the
belly of a massive fire breathing dragon. In the belly
of a dragon, it is explicitly stated in the records
that he had the power of aerial flight, that he
traveled vast distances and be anywhere within minutes, and he
accomplished this incredible speed by hopping onto his dragon and
taking to.
Speaker 1: The sky, which is wild.
Speaker 2: He descends from this flying entity to become China's first
true emperor. He acts as a divine, highly advanced energy
taking human form to lead, organize, and unite the scattered people.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't just unite them through speeches. He radically
technologically accelerates their civilization. The inventions and legacies credited to
Wang D are staggering. He brings systematic order to the.
Speaker 2: Chaos he introduces.
Speaker 1: So much he is credited with the invention of the compass,
a highly sophisticated navigational tool that requires an understanding of
the Earth's magnetic field.
Speaker 2: Not a simple invention, not at all.
Speaker 1: He introduces acupuncture. Now, think about the complexity of acupuncture.
It is an incredibly intricate medical understanding of the human
nervous system, invisible energy, meridians, and blood flow. It's not
something a hunter gatherer just stumbles upon by accidentally poking
someone with a stick.
Speaker 2: No, it is a highly mapped science.
Speaker 1: He standardizes Chinese writing, creating a unified, complex system of
communication for a massive, sprawling empire. And he is even
associated with laying the earliest conceptual and administrative foundations for
what would eventually become the Great Wall of China.
Speaker 2: It is a period of massive advancement.
Speaker 1: He sparks a period of massive prosperity, health, and technological advancement.
And then, according to the myth, when the land is
finally prosperous and his work is complete, the great yellow
dragon returns. Wang d gets back into the belly of
the dragon, and it flies off into the stars forever.
Speaker 2: So let's stop and apply the concept of mythological translation
to this incredible story. We have to ask a fundamental question,
were these dragons' biological entities?
Speaker 1: Were there actual giant lizards flying around.
Speaker 2: Right where the giant fire breathing flying reptiles roaming the
earth in three thousand BC that somehow understood complex navigational
commands and allowed emperors to ride inside their stomachs. Probably not,
or is this a classic misinterpretation of a highly advanced machine.
Think about how an ancient person completely devoid of mechanical
knowledge would describe a modern rocket launch or an aerospace vehicle.
Speaker 1: What would they see?
Speaker 2: They see a massive metallic cylindrical object. It is spewing
tremendous amounts of fire and exhaust from its base. There
is immense deafening noise that physically shakes the earth beneath
their feet, just roaring thunder exactly. There is thick, billowing smoke,
which is often yellow or red, depending on the chemical
propellant being used. If you have never seen an engine
or a in your entire life, the absolute closest biological
equivalent to a massive, roaring, fire spewing flying entity is
a mythical monster.
Speaker 1: It is a dragon.
Speaker 2: It is a dragon.
Speaker 1: It makes total logical sense when you think about it.
As a desperate attempt to translate the incomprehensible. A dragon
has a belly, that's the fuselage or the cockpit, a
dragon flies aerodynamics, a dragon breathes fire and creates win
Those are the thrusters and the exhaust.
Speaker 2: It maps perfectly.
Speaker 1: The alternative theories point out that in many Eastern teachings,
dragons are frequently depicted carrying people. Sometimes the gods are
riding on the dragon's back, but very often they're described
as being situated securely inside the dragon's belly, looking.
Speaker 2: Out, looking out of a window.
Speaker 1: Essentially, it sounds exactly like a poet's desperate effort to
explain an aerospace vehicle and a pilot. And what is
truly wild is that this narrative isn't isolated to just
one region in China. It is a global phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Exactly when you synthesize this data globally, you see an
undone deniable pattern. This core narrative, a deity or an
advanced being arriving from the stars in a fiery vehicle
to help a struggling humanity, bringing profound gifts of science
and civilization, is found everywhere.
Speaker 1: Give me some examples.
Speaker 2: You find parallel legends among the ancient Egyptians, who believe
their gods like Osiris, descended from the Orian constellation you
find it among Native American tribes all across the Americas,
who speak of sky people or star beings who brought
them agriculture and law. And perhaps most inexplicably, you find
it deeply embedded within the traditions of the Dogon tribe
in West Africa.
Speaker 1: Oh, the Dogon tribe. That story is incredible.
Speaker 2: The Dogon possessed highly specific, inexplicable astronomical knowledge regarding the
Serious Star system, specifically the existence of Serious B, a
white dwarf star that is completely invisible to the naked eye.
Speaker 1: You literally need a modern telescope to see it.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Doga knew about its orbit, its density, and
its invisible nature centuries before modern Western astronomy confirmed its
existence with high powered telescopes. When anthropologists asked the Dogon
how they knew this, they stated plainly that the knowledge
was given to them by beings called the Nomo, who
descended from the sky in a vessel surrounded by fire
and thunder.
Speaker 1: It's the same story.
Speaker 2: It suggests a global phenomena, a pattern of God's descending
with empathy to elevate human suffering through the rapid sudden
injection of technology and order.
Speaker 1: I just marvel at the psychological aspect of this mythology
is at its core the human effort to grasp what
is entirely beyond our grasp. It's our way of wrestling
with the infinite and the unknown. But here is where
I need to step in and push back. I am
trying to view this with a critical eye. I know
what the skeptics are screaming at their speakers.
Speaker 2: Right now, play Devil's advocate.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yes, if I took an Apache helicopter
back in time to three thousand BC, landed in a
rice patty, and stepped out wearing a flight suit, the
locals would absolutely call it a screaming metal bird. They
would call me a god who rides the wind without
a doubt. But does the fact that Wangde's standardized writing
or invented the compass actually require an extraterrestrial or advanced
ancient civilization explanation? Aren't we treading dangerously close to stripping
ancient humans of their own agency?
Speaker 2: That is a very fair point.
Speaker 1: Are we vastly underestimating ancient human genius? Couldn't wog d
just have been a brilliant human leader once in a generation?
Genius in ancient Einstein or Da Vinci, who genuinely invented
the compass through intense observation of loadstones, who united the
tribes through sheer charisma, and then over hundreds of years
of oral storytelling, his purely human legacy was simply exaggerated
into a myth about riding star dragons.
Speaker 2: That is the essential, vital counter argument, and it is
crucial to keep it at the forefront of this discussion.
We absolutely must validate the inherent intellect, creativity, and ingenuity
of early Homo sapiens.
Speaker 1: They weren't dumb, not at all.
Speaker 2: They had the exact same cognitive capacity we do. We
should never assume that ancient people were incapable of profound innovation. However,
the alternative theory doesn't necessarily dispute human capacity to invent.
What it questions is the speed, the timeline, and the
clustering of these advances. Clesterl Yes, to have an advanced
understanding of global magnetism for navigation, a standardized complex writing system,
and an intricate, highly mapped medical system like acupuncture all
appear almost concurrently, all at once, and for all of
these complex sciences to be localized around a singular figure
who is explicitly, repeatedly associated with celestial phenomena and aerial flight.
That is what raises the eyebrows of alternative historians.
Speaker 1: So it's not that we couldn't invent it, it's that
we invented it too fast.
Speaker 2: It is the suddenness of the leap. Human innovation is
generally iterative. Someone invents the wheel, someone else puts it
on a cart, someone else adds an axle. But in
these ancient narratives, humanity goes from zero to one hundred
in a single lifetime. It's the clustering of miracles that
creates the anomaly.
Speaker 1: That's a really fair point. It's the timeline that makes
it weird, the suddenness of it all, and that transitions
us perfectly into our next major piece.
Speaker 2: Of evidence, the physical evidence.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I will admit, while stories of fire breathing
dragons and compassionate star beings from serious or fascinating, they
are still relatively easy for mainstream skeptics to dismiss. They
are just stories. They are folklore. They are easily chalked
up to poetic metaphors and the exaggerations of time.
Speaker 2: You can argue with a myth.
Speaker 1: But you know what is significantly harder to dismiss a
twenty ton block of solid, intricately carved limestone.
Speaker 2: You cannot argue with a rock.
Speaker 1: No, you can't. If humanity was genuinely receiving outside help,
if we were being genetically upgraded, or if we were
being guided by a lost highly advanced civilization, there should
be physical, undeniable anomalies buried in the dirt.
Speaker 2: It has to be proof.
Speaker 1: There should be structures that completely and utterly defy are
accepted historical timeline. And in nineteen ninety four humanity found
exactly that. We are moving right now from the ethereal
realm of myth into the hard, undeniable realm of stone.
Speaker 2: We are talking about what is arguably the most paradigm
shifting archaeological discovery of the twentieth and twenty first centuries.
We are talking about Go Beckley Tipe.
Speaker 1: Go Beckley Tipe.
Speaker 2: The story of his discovery is phenomenal. It literally starts
like a scene from an Indiana Jones movie. It is
October nineteen eighty four in the San le Ufa province
of southeastern Turkey.
Speaker 1: Which is right near the Fertile Crescent The region is.
Speaker 2: Near the traditional borders of the biblical Garden Viden and
the Fertile Crescent. A local Kurdish shepherd named Sevakioldus is
walking his field. He is plowing, working the land as
his family has done for generations, and he spots a
strangely shaped stone protruding from the dusty.
Speaker 1: Earth, just a rock sticking up.
Speaker 2: He walks over, brushes away the dirt and realizes this
isn't just a natural rock out cropping. It appears to
be a deliberately worked edge, perfectly straight, belonging to a
much larger object buried beneath the hill.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: He does exactly the right thing. He contacts the local museum.
Shortly after, the museum contacts the German Archaeological Institute and
an archaeologist named Klaus Schmidt arrives at the site to investigate.
Speaker 1: And when Klaus Schmidt starts digging into that hill, he
essentially breaks the history of the world. He really does,
because what Schmidt and his team found beneath the dirt
of go Beckley Tepe was absolutely mind blowing. As they
dug they didn't just find one workstone, they unearthed dozens
and eventually ground penetrating radar revealed hundreds of massive monolithic
T shaped limestone.
Speaker 2: Pillars, hundreds of them.
Speaker 1: And these aren't small decorative markers. Some of these pillars
are almost twenty feet tall and weigh as much as
twenty tons each. They are arranged in these massive, perfectly geometric,
circular enclosures.
Speaker 2: It is a massive complex.
Speaker 1: But it's not just the size that is baffling. It
is the artistry. These pillars aren't just blank blocks of
rough rock. They are covered in intricate, beautiful, high relief.
Speaker 2: Carving three D cartings.
Speaker 1: Yes, they feature stunning depictions of animals, lions, charging bowls, foxes, cranes, snakes, spiders, scorpions.
The level of artistry, the understanding of proportion and perspective,
is phenomenal. It is masterclass stonemasonry.
Speaker 2: And when you sit down with modern engineers and start
to calculate the sheer, logistics and mathematics of this construction,
the implications become staggering.
Speaker 1: Right because how did they build it?
Speaker 2: Archaeologists and structural engineers have estimated the labor required for
this site to simply move just one of these monolithic
twenty ton pillars from the nearby limestone quarry to the
top of the hill where the site sits. Remember, these
people supposedly didn't have the wheel no wheels, they didn't
have draft animals like oxen or horses domesticated yet, they
didn't have pulleys. To move one stone, it would have
taken a dedicated, highly organized, synchronized team of at least
fifty strong men working an entire week just to drag
one stone.
Speaker 1: Into position, just dragging it up a hill.
Speaker 2: Then to carve those intricate bas reliefs using only flint
or harder stone tools because they didn't have metal. They
estimate over three hundred hours of highly skilled painstaking labor
per pillar. That is insane at that rate. Considering the
sheer number of pillars in the complexity of the site,
each of the circular enclosures would have required a full
year of continuous, highly organized, heavily resourced labor to be completed.
Speaker 1: Let's pause and visualize the mechanics of that. If you
have hundreds of men dragging twenty tons stones and carving
art for years on end, those men need to eat, right,
They need a massive amount of calories. They need water,
they need shelter. You need an entire logistical supply chain
to support a massive construction.
Speaker 2: Project like this an economy.
Speaker 1: Yes, and here is the massive, glaring, impossible mystery of
go beckley Tepe. Nobody lived there.
Speaker 2: It's empty.
Speaker 1: Usually when archaeologists find monumental architecture like the pyramids or
the Ziggurats or Mayan temples, they find a massive city
surrounding it. They find the houses of the workers. They
find domestic trash pits, They find thousands of broken pottery
shards from their kitchens. They find burial grounds and human remains.
Speaker 2: The signs of life.
Speaker 1: Klouf Schmidt searched that site for years, expecting to find
the settlement that supported this massive workforce, but he found nothing.
Go beckley Tepe is clearly not a village. There is
absolutely zero domestic refuse. There are no human remains indicating.
Speaker 2: A graveyard, no agriculture.
Speaker 1: There are no signs of domesticated plants or agriculture. The
only bones found at the site are thousands and thousands
of bones of wild animals gazelles, boares, deer, presumably hunted
in the wild and brought to the site to feed
the workers, and then discarded in.
Speaker 2: The field of archaeology. There is a running inside joke.
If we dig something up and we have absolutely no
idea what it was used for, we just call it
a ritual site, of course, and that is exactly what
happened with go Beckley Tepe. Because there is no domestic settlement.
The default assumption by mainstream academia is that it was
a religious sanctuary, a temple, world's first cathedral, a place
of pilgrimage where scattered hunter gatherers would temporarily gather for
rituals and then dispose back into the wilderness.
Speaker 1: But that is just a guess.
Speaker 2: It remains pure speculation. We have no idea what rituals
took place there or what the T shaped pillars actually represent. However,
the mystery of its purpose completely pales in comparison to
the absolute shock of its age.
Speaker 1: Oh the age. This is the best part.
Speaker 2: Klaus Schmidt needed to know when this was built. Now
you cannot radiocarbon data piece of limestone. Stone doesn't have
carbon fourteen isotopes decaying.
Speaker 1: Inside it, so how do you date it?
Speaker 2: What Schmidt discovered was that ubecley Tepe wasn't abandoned to
the elements. It was deliberately intentionally buried. Whoever built it
spent immense effort to cover the entire site with thousands
of tons of dirt and refuse to hide it or
preserve it.
Speaker 1: They buried the whole thing.
Speaker 2: And inside that dirt backfill there was organic material, animal bones,
charcoal from fires. Schmidt took that organic material and had
it radiocarbon dated.
Speaker 1: And the results of those radiocarbon tests triggered a localized
earthquake for the entire scientific community. The radiocarbon dating placed
the intentional burial and therefore the construction of Gobeckley Tepe
at roughly twelve thousand years old.
Speaker 2: Twelve thousand years I.
Speaker 1: Need everyone to deeply comprehend how impossible that number is.
Twelve thousand years old. To put that in perspective, that
is roughly five thousand years older than the first known
cities of ancient.
Speaker 2: Mesopotamia, older than Sumeria.
Speaker 1: It is seven thousand years older than Stonehenge or the
Great Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. According to the mainstream
accepted textbook Timeline of Human Advancement, twelve thousand years ago,
humans were nothing more than simple hunter.
Speaker 2: Gatherers, just cavemen.
Speaker 1: Essentially, they're supposed to be roaming the earth in small,
disorganized bands, wearing animal skins, following herds of wild gazelles,
and living in caves or temporary stick shelters.
Speaker 2: It doesn't fit the narrative.
Speaker 1: It is the historical equivalent of digging beneath a medieval
eelfth century castle and finding a fully functional, highly engineered
nuclear reactor. It is an anachronism that should not exist.
Speaker 2: The site sent absolute shock waves through the entire discipline
of early prehistory. It completely and utterly broke the linear
model of human progress that we are all taught in school.
Speaker 1: Walk us through that broken model.
Speaker 2: Let's review the textbook model we all learned. It goes
like this. In a strict order, humans are simple hunter gatherers.
Then they discover agriculture and learn to farm wheat. Because
they can farm, they settle in one place. Settling in
one place creates a reliable food surplus because everyone doesn't
have to hunt all day to survive. A food surplus
allows for the specialization of labor. This means some people
can become priests, some can become engineers, and some can
become master Stonemasons and then only after agriculture, settlement and
specialization do humans develop the capacity to build monumental megalithic.
Speaker 1: Structures and qebecy tipe ruins that.
Speaker 2: Beckley Tepe reverses that entire paradigm. It proves that humans
built a massive, complex, twenty ton megalithic temple before the
invented farming, before they invented the wheel, before they invented pottery.
Speaker 1: Here is where it gets really interesting. Let's unpack the
logic of that. If the timeline is reversed, If they
built a sprawling, mathematically precise twenty ton stone temple before
they had the established society to support it, how did
they know how to do it?
Speaker 2: That is the million dollar question.
Speaker 1: Where did the engineering knowledge come from? You don't just
wake up one morning in a cave and say, hey, guys,
let's go corey twenty ton limestone blocks and carve high
relief three D scorpions on them.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: This is where alternative historians present a radical, compelling alternative.
They suggest that primitive hunter gatherers absolutely did not build
Gobeckley Tepe from scratch.
Speaker 2: They inherited the knowledge.
Speaker 1: They argue that it was built by the survivors of
a lost highly advanced civilization, a global society that had
already mastered complex engineering, mathematics, and social organization thousands of
years prior, but was almost entirely wiped out by a
worldwide cataclysm.
Speaker 2: If we connect this to the broader geological picture, the
timing of Gobeckley Tepe's construction is deeply, deeply significant. Mainstream
geology and climatology widely acknowledge that a catastrophic event or
a rapid series of extreme events occurred at the very
end of the Last.
Speaker 1: Ice Age right the Younger dryis yes.
Speaker 2: The Pleistocene epoch. The Great Ice Age lasted from roughly
one hundred and eight thousand BC until nearly ten thousand BC,
right around the exact time Gobeckley Tepe was constructed. Twelve
thousand years ago, the Earth went through a period of massive,
violent climate upheaval.
Speaker 1: The climate just went crazy.
Speaker 2: This period is called the Younger Dryas we can see
the evidence in ice cores drilled from Greenland, the global
temperature plummeted and then suddenly spiked. Glaciers rapidly melted, causing
massive meltwater pulses that raised global sea levels by hundreds
of feet in a terrifyingly short amount of time, flooding
coastal areas worldwide.
Speaker 1: So if we followed this theory, Go Beckley Teppe isn't
the dawn of human civilization as we are slowly waking
up from our caveman slumber. It is a post apocalyptic
recovery project, a literal reset. It is the smoking gun
of a lost high culture. Picture it. It is a
group of highly educated survivors of this Ice Age cataclysm.
Their coastal cities are underwater, their civilization is gone. They
band together, terrified, holding onto the remnants of their advanced knowledge,
and they say, we have to build something permanent.
Speaker 2: We have to write this down in stone.
Speaker 1: We have to retain this mathematical and engineering knowledge before
it is lost to the mud. The sophisticated engineering skills,
the complex ordering of society required to quarry and move
twenty ton blocks. That knowledge didn't just spontaneously spring from nothing.
It must have existed before the catastrophe. They weren't inventing Stonemasonry.
They were trying to remember it.
Speaker 2: That is the compelling overarching argument the alternative theories put
forward the builders of Go Beckley Tepe were the inheritors
of a man massive legacy. They had the technology, the
astronomical knowledge, and the organizational capacity. But logically it raises
a subsequent.
Speaker 1: Mystery, where did they go next?
Speaker 2: Exactly, a culture with that much knowledge successfully surviving and
recovering from a global disaster wouldn't just build a massive
circle of stones bury it and then vanish into the
wilderness forever.
Speaker 1: No, they would rebuild.
Speaker 2: Knowledge needs a home to flourish. It needs a stable,
fertile environment to be recorded, expanded upon, and passed down
to the next generation. So if these survivors or their
descendants left the harsh mountains of Turkey, where do they
eventually settle to rebuild society on a grand scale?
Speaker 1: That brings us to our final and perhaps most chilling chapter. Today,
we follow the thread of this ancient knowledge out of
the mountainous terrain of ancient Turkey and we trace it
down into the fertile alluvial valleys of the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Down into the cradle.
Speaker 1: We arrive at the sudden, seemingly impossible birth of modern civilization.
Ancient Summeri area in what is now modern day Iraq.
Sumeri emerges in southern Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia literally translates
to the land between the rivers massive Tigris and Euphrates.
Speaker 2: Rivers, an incredibly fertile area.
Speaker 1: Sometime around three thousand to four thousand BC, this culture
seemingly explodes into existence out of absolutely nowhere. They don't
just slowly invent one or two things over a millennium.
They arrive on the historical stage with a fully functioning,
highly complex blueprint for a modern society.
Speaker 2: The historical statistics of Samaria are baffling historians and archaeologists.
A tribute to the ancient Sumerian civilization over one hundred
major firsts for human society.
Speaker 1: One hundred firsts.
Speaker 2: We are talking about the sudden, simultaneous emergence of massive,
complex agriculture and canal irrigation. They possessed advanced astronomical science,
mapping the stars with precision. They had sophisticated medicine and pharmacology.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: They possess highly complex maths. In fact, they invented the
base sixty numerical system.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's explain the mechanics of that. Because it is brilliant.
Why base sixty we use base ten, because we have
ten fingers. Why did the Sumerians use sixty?
Speaker 2: It is deeply intuitive once you see it. They counted
using the joints on their fingers. Look at your hand
right now, Okay, looking at my hand excluding your thumb.
Your four fingers each have three knuckles or joints. Four
fingers times three joints equals twelve. They would use their
thumb to count the twelve knuckles on one hand and
then multiply that by the five fingers on their other hand.
Twelve times five is sixty. That is so smart, and
that Sumerian mathematical invention is so perfect, so mathematically divisible,
that we still use it today. It is exactly why
we have sixty seconds in a minute, sixty minutes in
an hour, and three hundred and sixty degrees in a circle.
That ancient knowledge is literally taking on your wristwatch right now.
Speaker 1: I will never look at a clock the same way again.
Speaker 2: Beyond math, they introduced the concept of kingship. They established codified,
written laws, functioning courts of justice, appointed judges, and even
formal schools for children. It is the sudden manifestation of
a highly structured, organized world. This region of Mesopotamia would
eventually host four main sequential.
Speaker 1: Kingdoms, Sumer, a Cod, Babylonia, and Assyria.
Speaker 2: Yes, sumer being the oldest, followed by the Kingdom of
a Cod begun by the famous Sargona first, and then
the massive empires of Babylonia and Assyria.
Speaker 1: But the most vital invention of all, the singular technology
that ensures all those other inventions, the math, the laws,
the astronomy survived the ravages of time, is writing cuniform.
The Sumerians invented a writing system called cuniform. Cuniform literally
translates to wedge shaped. Scribes would take a specialized wedge
shaped reed stylus and meticulously impress these complex, intricate signs
and symbols into tablets of.
Speaker 2: Wet clay, very permanent medium.
Speaker 1: Then, in a stroke of genius, they would fire these
clay tablets in high temperature kilns, hardening them into solid stone.
They essentially created an indestruct ancient hard drive that preserved
whatever was written on them, whether it was a merchant's
tax receipt or a deeply sacred religious text.
Speaker 2: For millennia and for centuries, modern society had absolutely no
idea what these tablets said. They were occasionally dug up
by farmers, but they were completely unreadable. They were just
considered mysterious rocks with strange scratches on them.
Speaker 1: Nobody could decipher them.
Speaker 2: Deciphering Cuneiform was considered next to impossible until a massive
watershed moment. In March of eighteen forty three, a French scientist,
diplomat and archaeologist named Paul Ammeilbota was excavating in northern
Iraq at a site called Corsobad.
Speaker 1: What did he find?
Speaker 2: He broke through the dirt and discovered a gigantic, perfectly
preserved subterranean Assyrian palace. He opened up this incredible sealed
room that was filled with massive statues of ancient winged gods,
depictions of kings, vast treasures, and most importantly, the walls
were entirely covered in ancient Sumerian cuneiform inscriptions.
Speaker 1: It must have been exactly like stepping into a time machine.
The air must have felt thick with history. An archaeologist's
absolute dream, and that discovery by Bota opened the floodgates
for archaeology. Within ten years of Bota's find, other teams
uncovered the ruins of the legendary Sumerian capital city of Er,
the legendary erth This is a massive deal because Err
is famously known as the home of the biblical figure Abraham,
the patriarch of the Monotheistic religions. When scientists excavated Er,
they didn't just find a few mudbrick houses. They unearthed
the Great Ziggurat.
Speaker 2: A massive pyramid.
Speaker 1: This massive, towering, multi tiered step pyramid structure that served
as the administrative, scientific, and spiritual center of the entire
sprawling city. They found royal tombs clad in solid gold,
They found exquisite jewelry, and most vitally, they found thousands
upon thousands of these fired cuneiform tablets.
Speaker 2: The discovery of Er was a monumental paradigm shift. Up
until that point, much of the academic world assumed the
Bible was purely allegorical. But the un thing of Er
proved that what was once considered mere religious mythology was
in fact grounded in hard historical reality.
Speaker 1: The myths were suddenly validated by physical artifacts, and when.
Speaker 2: Scholars finally cracked the code and learned to translate Cuneiform,
what they found on the tablets in Err and other
Sumerian cities was staggering.
Speaker 1: Wasn't just tax receipts.
Speaker 2: No, these weren't just grain inventories. They contained the deep
philosophical and origin histories of the Sumerian people. They contained
the genealogies of their gods, the inner Naki beings they
explicitly claim came from the sky to bring them civilization.
Speaker 1: There's that star being connection again.
Speaker 2: They contained detailed, sweeping accounts of a great flood that
wiped out humanity, narratives like the epic of Gilgamash that
predated the Biblical story of Noah by thousands of years,
yet contained the exact same details. A chosen man, a
massive boat, the preservation of animal life, and a devastating deluge.
Speaker 1: These tablets were the ultimate historical record. They were the
original source code of human origins. Yes, which makes what
happen in recent history an absolute gut wrenching tragedy. And honestly,
it reads exactly like the plot of a high stakes
geopolitical spy thriller.
Speaker 2: It is incredibly dark.
Speaker 1: Let's fast forward from eighteen forty three to April tenth,
two thousand and three. We are three weeks into Operation
Iraqi Freedom the United States military forces are making their
way into the capital city of Baghdad, attempting to secure
strategic locations and create order amid the absolute chaos and
fog of.
Speaker 2: War a very chaotic time.
Speaker 1: But while the military is heavily focused on securing government
buildings and infrastructure, looters fill the streets the city descends
into anarchy. They ransack museums, destroying, smashing, and stealing thousands
of ancient, priceless artifacts.
Speaker 2: And the focal point of this devastating destruction was the
National Museum of Iraq in Baghdad, which housed the greatest
collection of Mesopotamian antiquities in the world.
Speaker 1: The greatest collection on Earth.
Speaker 2: Looters forced their way inside and systematically emptied the galleries.
They stole irreplaceable ancient musical instruments, intricate gold and jewelry
from the royal tombs, and most devastatingly, they specifically targeted
the cuneiform tablet archives. The archives, the very tablets that
recorded the pristine history of ancient Sumeria going back six
thousand years. The tablets containing the genealogies of the ancient gods,
the technical astronomical data, and the accounts of the Great
flood were suddenly gone. They were swallowed up in the
chaos of the black market.
Speaker 1: But the deeper we dig into this, the more disturbing
the details become. It wasn't just random desperate citizens off
the streets smashing a display case and grabbing whatever shiny
gold object they could find a sell for food.
Speaker 2: No, it was organized.
Speaker 1: Eyewitness accounts from museum staff and subsequent international investigations revealed
something much darker and highly organized. Interspersed with the chaotic
random looters, there were highly organized teams of professionals emmertionals.
These were people wearing tactical gear. They had two way
radios and earpieces, communicating and coordinating their movements through the
massive museum. They possessed the glass cutters and specialized tools.
These professionals completely bypassed the generic shiny displays in the
main halls and specifically targeted the highly secure subterranean vault areas.
Speaker 2: The knew where they were going.
Speaker 1: They penetrated double locked, reinforced steel doors to get into
the deepest archives. They knew exactly the layout of the museum,
They knew exactly what they're looking for, and they went
straight for the most ancient, the most sensitive six thousand
year old, untranslated cuneiform tablets.
Speaker 2: This raises a profound, deeply unsettling question, and perhaps it
is the most important question of our entire discussion today.
Why Why would heavily coordinated, highly funded militants operating in
the middle of a blazing warzone prioritized the theft of ancient,
dusty clay tablets over modern weapons, intelligence documents, or highly
liquid assets like gold.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense unless the tablets were the prize.
Speaker 2: Was this simply the tragic, random consequence of war and
opera tunistic antiquities heist for wealthy black market collectors, or,
as the alternative theories powerfully suggest, was this a deliberate, calculated,
deeply funded attempt to obliterate forbidden knowledge of our ancient.
Speaker 1: Past, an erasure of history.
Speaker 2: If those specific stolen Sumerian tablets contain the irrefutable, untranslated
evidence of an extraterrestrial presence, or the detailed biological records
of our genetically manipulated origins in Theodentic laboratory, then whoever
stole them wasn't just stealing ancient art. They were stealing
humanity's birth certificate. They were confiscating the truth.
Speaker 1: The idea that human history is so incredibly fragile that
the true blueprint of human DNA or the absolute truth
of our starbound origins could be erased by a tactical
team of thieves in a single afternoon is just a dreadful,
awe inspiring thought. It is a profound, irreversible loss for
the entire human species.
Speaker 2: It is heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? Let's try to tie
all these thrilling threads together. We started today with the
concept of a sudden operating system upgrade. We looked at
the ancient texts of the Book of Genesis and placed
them right alongside the nineteen eighty seven mitochondrial DNA discovery
the Eve model. We explored the provocative thought experiment that
Adam and Eve were not allegorical myths, but the very
first genetically modified humans engineered in a localized biosphere. We
examined the profound, sudden, and seemingly dangerous biological evolution of
the human voice box, a descended larynx that creates a
choking hazard but serves as a biological anomaly perfectly designed
for the advanced world building tool of complex language.
Speaker 2: We then traced how that newly acquired language was utilized
to describe incomprehensibly advanced technology. This resulted in the concept
of mythological translation, where primitive people described aerospace vehicles as
fire breathing dragons and viewed advanced beings like the Yellow
Emperor Wogd as star gods, bringing rapid localized civilization to
a suffering humanity.
Speaker 1: And we looked for the hard physical evidence of this accelerated,
impossible timeline and found it buried under the dirt in Turkey,
the mathematically precise twenty ton carved pillars of go Beckley, Tepe,
a twelve thousand year old megalithic sanctuary built by the
highly advanced survivors of a devastating Ice Age cataclysm thousands
of years before the invention of the wheel or agriculture.
Speaker 2: And finally, we follow those survivors down into the valleys
of Mesopotamia to witness the sudden explosive birth of Samaria.
We saw how the records of these ancient gods, their
advanced mathematics, and their technologies were meticulously carved into indestructible clay,
only to be specifically targeted and stolen by coordinated professional
teams with ear pieces in the chaotic fog of a
modern war.
Speaker 1: So much history just gone.
Speaker 2: Whether you view this expansive narrative through the traditional lens
of theology, the rigorous, demanding scrutiny of mainstream archaeology, or
the profound boundary pushing possibilities of the ancient astronaut theory,
one truth remains absolutely undeniable. That our ancestors were part
of the story far more complex, far more mysterious, and
far more spectacular than a simple linear textbook timeline would
have us. Believe. We are a species defined by sudden,
explosive leaps in cognition and ability, surrounded by monolithic evidence
that we have not yet fully understood.
Speaker 1: That is beautifully said, and.
Speaker 2: I want to leave you with one final lingering thought
from all over. If those coordinated looters in Bagdad were
in fact a specialized team hired by a shadow organization
to steal specific Sumerian tablets in order to hide forbidden knowledge,
where are those tablets right now, oh man? With they
ground into dust and destroyed to protect a secret paradigm?
Or are they sitting in a private climate control, double
locked subterranean vault somewhere in the world, secretly guarding the true, unredacted,
explosive story of the human race.
Speaker 1: It genuinely gives you chills just thinking about the fact
that the answers might exude on this planet, locked in
a dark room somewhere.
Speaker 2: It is entirely possible.
Speaker 1: We started this journey on thrilling threads talking about waking
up with a brand new quantum operating system in your brain,
wondering where the code came from. Maybe the original source
code isn't permanently lost to time. Maybe it's just deliberately
hidden away in the dark.
Speaker 2: We just have to find it.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I want you to genuinely ponder this.
Are we simply the product of a slow, grueling, random
biological crawl out of the mud over millions of years?
Or are we a genetically modified species with a magnificent
celestial history that has been deliberately hidden from us?
Speaker 2: Where do you stand?
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the sudden, inexplicable origins of
human genius? Is it human brilliance or outside intervention? I
want to know what you think. Drop a comment, share
your personal theories with us. Let us know what specific
piece of evidence we discussed today blew your mind the most,
and let's keep this incredible conversation going until next time.
Keep your eyes open, stay curious, and keep pulling on
those thrilling threads.