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Speaker 3: Time Welcome back in a Friday on ESPN seven hundred.
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks for the Monster Jam World Finals.
Speaker 3: What's up, Zach Carber.
Speaker 1: I'll go anywhere if it's free.
Speaker 3: Oh it's not free. I thought you're covering the event.
Speaker 3: I thought, you're credentialed for Monster Jam.
Speaker 1: Well if they if they pay for me, it's free
Speaker 1: for me, so I'll do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that that was that was kind of
Speaker 3: part of the gig. But no worries, no worries. I
Speaker 3: won't put you on the spot on the Monster Jam
Speaker 3: World Finals. It's a loaded lineup. Yeah, yeah, I like
Speaker 3: Grave Digger.
Speaker 1: What I mean if if Grave Digger is still around, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Grave Digger still around, still contending for titles usually year in,
Speaker 3: a year out. So I think I dug myself. I
Speaker 3: dug myself a hole here pretending like so you there's
Speaker 3: there's different events. There's like a there's a like a
Speaker 3: freestyle thing where you do cool tricks and like backflips
Speaker 3: and stuff. Some of those trucks do that. I think
Speaker 3: that parts judged. There's a I'm trial event, I believe,
Speaker 3: and then I think there's some truck that just smashed
Speaker 3: stuff a lot. I'm not exactly entirely sure, but a
Speaker 3: lot of loud noises and and big grumbling trucks at
Speaker 3: at Monster Gym.
Speaker 1: I love that. There's almost like an Olympic figure skating
Speaker 1: aspect to this of like, well, there's a freestyle where
Speaker 1: we're going to judge.
Speaker 3: She oh, and it's and there's a little listen. There's
Speaker 3: an aspect of it that's beautiful. You see, like a
Speaker 3: fifty truck spinning on one wheel, back and forth, over
Speaker 3: and over again. Oh, I'm in ballet. It's ballet of steel,
Speaker 3: Tony Parks. Have you ever ever in the arena for
Speaker 3: Monster Jym?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took Actually my youngest went with us too,
Speaker 2: had the little headphones and all of that. She had
Speaker 2: a good time. She liked it good, she really. I
Speaker 2: was not quite sure how it was going to go.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, we might be leaving a little
Speaker 2: bit early. No way, she loved every bit of it.
Speaker 1: The final.
Speaker 2: It's actually a great show. It's a really good time.
Speaker 3: Ticketmaster dot com, trust me, get the tickets now it's
Speaker 3: the World Final. Get them before you're gone. Now that
Speaker 3: we spent several minutes on Monster Jam, how about an
Speaker 3: NBA Finals Game seven, Zach Harper, what level of surprise
Speaker 3: would you say that we are seven games in considering
Speaker 3: that the Indiana Pacers have been less healthy, less depth.
Speaker 3: I think obviously they were by almost all accounts, the
Speaker 3: heavy underdogs coming in and yet here we are a
Speaker 3: Game seven, and the Indiana Pacers, who all playoffs long,
Speaker 3: refused to die.
Speaker 1: The only part that surprises me is that we got
Speaker 1: here because of last because of what we had. What
Speaker 1: we knew going into last game is that Holle's hurt. Right,
Speaker 1: Halle has a calf injury. So I've thought this whole
Speaker 1: time that the Pacers could play with the Thunder. And
Speaker 1: that's not so much about, you know, any short coming
Speaker 1: to the Thunder. I just think the Pacers are really
Speaker 1: good and they've been. They've been one of the best
Speaker 1: teams in the league since January first, and so I
Speaker 1: think people have underestimated the Pacers for a while. I
Speaker 1: think people have just kind of thought it's fluky or
Speaker 1: you know, you know, maybe due to injury. None of that.
Speaker 1: They were they were beating Milwaukee before Dane got hurt.
Speaker 1: They were beating Cleveland regardless of injuries. Like they've just
Speaker 1: been the better team in every round up into the finals.
Speaker 1: And and they do have depth, they do have a
Speaker 1: style of play that counteracts a lot of what Oklahoma
Speaker 1: City is good at, and so it doesn't shock me
Speaker 1: they've been able to hold but once Hallie was hurt
Speaker 1: and you know, and we saw how limited he was
Speaker 1: in game five. Yeah, I expected them to lose last night.
Speaker 1: But if you told me going into the series it
Speaker 1: was going seven, that would not have shocked me at all.
Speaker 3: The natural follow up there would be, what where do
Speaker 3: you think Caliburton is?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: That's that's usually an injury that is kind of lingering,
Speaker 3: kind of one. You you're and we talked about the KD.
Speaker 3: You think we don't need to go into Achille like
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of a freak thing that isn't necessarily
Speaker 3: as top of mind as I think some are making
Speaker 3: it out to be. But a castrain is one of
Speaker 3: those lingering, kind of tough injuries to get all your
Speaker 3: explosiveness out, all your last movement. He looked pretty good
Speaker 3: last night. Definitely a lot better than in game five.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get a one hundred percent ish
Speaker 3: Tyrese Halliburton, what are what are your thoughts on a
Speaker 3: game seven? Like how close do we get to tass
Speaker 3: up range?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think I think it's basically a
Speaker 1: toss up. I really do like you give an edge
Speaker 1: to Okay see because they're at home and they and
Speaker 1: they are the better team. Don't get me wrong, they
Speaker 1: are the better team. But I'm I would look at
Speaker 1: it like I don't know, fifty five forty five sixty
Speaker 1: forty max. Like I think Indiana is right there with them,
Speaker 1: because Indiana is really good if Halle is healthy, the
Speaker 1: you know, the the cast strain is forrigular, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think you should just outright dismiss that whole KD
Speaker 1: thing like I do think that's a major concern. I
Speaker 1: had that concern going in going into last night's game
Speaker 1: of Okay, we know he's gonna play because he's he's
Speaker 1: not he's not gonna sit out with the season on
Speaker 1: the line, like we knew that, but you have to
Speaker 1: be worried about something more serious happening to that area
Speaker 1: of the leg because we've seen a history of that
Speaker 1: before with overused players, with you know, guys on huge minutes,
Speaker 1: with guys with strains going into that and maybe rushing
Speaker 1: back like that. That is a major concern. But this
Speaker 1: Indiana team, they've shown all postseason long like they can
Speaker 1: go into that hostile environment and steal a game, like
Speaker 1: I get it, Game seven, I know that you know
Speaker 1: home teams are fifteen to four in Game sevens, but
Speaker 1: also the majority of those games happened pre merger. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you how much stock you
Speaker 1: even put into that, Like this is this Pacers team
Speaker 1: has has stolen a lot of a lot of road
Speaker 1: games in this postseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after six full games watching these two teams go
Speaker 2: back and forth, when it's all said and done, what
Speaker 2: do you think is going to ultimately decide this seventh game?
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the turnover battle, like I
Speaker 1: really do. And I you know, they the the thunder
Speaker 1: in in their wins have have drawn about eleven more
Speaker 1: points off turnovers from Indiana than than in the than
Speaker 1: in the lost And so when they turn, when they
Speaker 1: turn Indiana over and they turn those into points, you know, obvious,
Speaker 1: it sounds obvious, but that's something that you know, we
Speaker 1: saw in Game one they forced twenty five turnovers, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of those were live ball turnovers, but it
Speaker 1: only resulted in eleven points. And so it's why even
Speaker 1: though you had a lot of empty and non existent
Speaker 1: possessions for Indiana, they weren't giving up points on the
Speaker 1: other end, so they were able to be in a
Speaker 1: position to steal that game on that Halliburton shot at
Speaker 1: the end. And if Okac is, you know, ending those
Speaker 1: possessions for Indiana but not converting on the other end,
Speaker 1: not making them pay, then Indiana's going to be in
Speaker 1: a position to steal the game again. They have to
Speaker 1: convert all of those opportunities, or the majority of those
Speaker 1: opportunities into quick points the other way, because you know,
Speaker 1: talking to players around the league, talking to coaches around
Speaker 1: the league, that the way that Okay see turns you
Speaker 1: over and then gets those quick strikes is very demoralizing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a tidal wave on top of
Speaker 1: you that that just all of a sudden, it's twelve
Speaker 1: O run, you call a time out, and you don't
Speaker 1: know what like, you don't know where you've gone. It's
Speaker 1: very much like those Warriors teams in twenty fifteen or
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, where in the blink of an eye you're wondering,
Speaker 1: how are we down twenty? It was just a five
Speaker 1: point game, Zach.
Speaker 3: There's and Tony and I were talking about this in
Speaker 3: this last segment and you kind of mentioned it a
Speaker 3: little bit to start this one. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: folks who still feel like some of this is fluky
Speaker 3: from Indiana, right, the big bounce against the Knicks, all
Speaker 3: all of the above. But if that's how you feel,
Speaker 3: you probably haven't been watching this team since I'd say
Speaker 3: about Christmas. They really turned it on, and I think
Speaker 3: Rick Carlile has done a phenomenal job with them. There's
Speaker 3: a little tinge of like him being unheralded still after
Speaker 3: what he did in Dallas, after what he's done since then,
Speaker 3: there's still a hesitancy. I feel like to credit Rick Carlyle,
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's not working with a good roster,
Speaker 3: but I don't know that you look at this roster
Speaker 3: and think NBA Finals rights, it's got to be one
Speaker 3: of the better coaching jobs in Tony. I said this
Speaker 3: in the first segment since maybe Rick Carlisle in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's look, he's got a history
Speaker 1: and he got remembered. He got a raw deal in Detroit, right, yep.
Speaker 1: He got them in tradition to win a championship. And
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, yeah, well, Larry Brown got them over
Speaker 1: the hump. We'll give Rasheed Walls to those Rick Carlisle
Speaker 1: rat distances let's see what happens. Right, Like that was
Speaker 1: a made Like, yes, Larry Brown did a great job,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But that thing turned when when
Speaker 1: Rashid Wallace ended up on that team those final couple
Speaker 1: of months in two thousand and four. And so Rick
Speaker 1: Carlisle has been one of the best coaches in the
Speaker 1: league since he's since he got his first head coaching job,
Speaker 1: and I think he's one of the ten best coaches
Speaker 1: in NBA history. I mean, he is phenomenal, and he
Speaker 1: is someone who has been historically very difficult on point
Speaker 1: guards because he knows the importance of that position, and
Speaker 1: he's you know, he and Kevin Pritchard now have a
Speaker 1: superstar and Tyre's Haliburton. And if people don't want to
Speaker 1: accept it, okay, you're going to in a couple of
Speaker 1: years and you're just late like that, Like Haliburton is great.
Speaker 1: He is a great point guard already and he's a superstar.
Speaker 1: And they looked at it, you know, two years ago,
Speaker 1: they saw what they have and they said, Okay, we
Speaker 1: have to build this identity around this player. And so
Speaker 1: they decided we're going to run everybody out of the gym,
Speaker 1: like We're just gonna build a deep roster that runs
Speaker 1: everybody out of the gym, and we're going to play
Speaker 1: this way. We're going to run off missus off makes
Speaker 1: off turnovers, doesn't matter. We're running all the time. But
Speaker 1: we have to figure out a way. You know, they
Speaker 1: did this last you know, after last season they said,
Speaker 1: all right, well now we have to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to do this, but also play some defense, which
Speaker 1: they figured out midway through this season, and they did that,
Speaker 1: and that's all. Rick Carlisle just makes these adjustments here
Speaker 1: and there, like this isn't always the way he wants
Speaker 1: to play, but he sees what rosters in front of
Speaker 1: him and he just makes the adjustments on how to
Speaker 1: maximize that talent.
Speaker 2: I've always loved that about him and I've admired that
Speaker 2: about him, and you look at the success he's had
Speaker 2: in the history of his career. Now with Indiana, they say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we are going to allow you to run this the
Speaker 2: way you need to. We're going to support that. We're
Speaker 2: going to have proper alignment from the front office, the ownership,
Speaker 2: everything that you need to where we're speaking the same language,
Speaker 2: we're moving the same direction. How much of this NBA Finals,
Speaker 2: with the way Oklahoma City was built and the way
Speaker 2: that Indiana functions, should be a reality check to different
Speaker 2: front offices in this league and ownership groups looking in
Speaker 2: the mirror getting real about their gap between the perception
Speaker 2: of how they run and what they think they are
Speaker 2: and the reality of what they truly are.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the ego of sports right, because
Speaker 1: it's a great question. Everyone should be looking at this
Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, this is the plan, this is what
Speaker 1: it is. Because I think you saw OKAC and the
Speaker 1: way they had their shortcomings last year, and I think
Speaker 1: they saw what Boston did and they said, okay, let's
Speaker 1: trade Josh Ginty frosscrus so we're going to go get
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hardenstein, which they had their eyes on already, and
Speaker 1: they knew that's going to give us more of a
Speaker 1: style of play of what Boston just did, and that's
Speaker 1: going to complete us, right. And you could very easily
Speaker 1: to be like, wholla, Josh Giddy's a good young player,
Speaker 1: and we want to develop this and we want to
Speaker 1: have at center so we are super versaal and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. But they kind of checked their ego, saw
Speaker 1: what other teams were doing and went out and just
Speaker 1: had this uniform you know, top to bottom. They have
Speaker 1: a uniform plan throughout Indiana, uniform plan throughout Look at
Speaker 1: what the Knicks just did, right, I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a roller coaster with Tom Thibodeau where they get to
Speaker 1: the conference finals and it's this referendum on Wait a second,
Speaker 1: I thought Tom Thibodeau's whole thing wasn't gonna work and
Speaker 1: make a deep playoff run. It was this whole like
Speaker 1: backlash to the backlash of fives. And then he loses
Speaker 1: game one, it's all he's got to be fired. And
Speaker 1: then he does get fired, and it's a backlash that
Speaker 1: like why are you firing him? Like there is no
Speaker 1: uniform be through so many of these organizations because you
Speaker 1: just have people's fragile egos getting in the way, whether
Speaker 1: that's the owner, the front office, coaches, players, whatever, and
Speaker 1: when you see that ego get checked and it's for
Speaker 1: the betterment of that culture. And for a long time,
Speaker 1: I know people rolled their eyes, but for a long
Speaker 1: time Heat culture was for a long time, Spurs culture
Speaker 1: has been a part of that. You see extended success
Speaker 1: and you're seeing that with the Pacers and the Thunder
Speaker 1: right now. And if you don't look at that as
Speaker 1: an organization as a model of that's the type of
Speaker 1: culture we need to have and emulate, then you're just
Speaker 1: not going to have long term success.
Speaker 3: I mean, speaking of long term success, Zach, which of
Speaker 3: these two teams even though it I mean you look
Speaker 3: at Sam Presty Oklahoma City, the draft picks that they
Speaker 3: have stockpiled up, the young talent they have stockpiled up,
Speaker 3: still a lot of them on rookie scale contracts. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're clearly built for the long term. What is your
Speaker 3: read on on what Indiana has to do to to
Speaker 3: kind of get to that point? And what are you know,
Speaker 3: maybe the two or three other teams that we're not
Speaker 3: talking about during an NBA Finals that you feel have
Speaker 3: that similar kind of window, because I do feel like
Speaker 3: there's also a lot of teams that are at the
Speaker 3: end of their window in the next year or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think for you know, the Thunder,
Speaker 1: it's very they have a lot of flexibility, they have
Speaker 1: a lot of options ahead of them. They just stockpiled
Speaker 1: everything real impressively, and let's say they let's say they
Speaker 1: lose on Sunday. I would expect a very twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: Spurs run next season, where they like, I think they'll
Speaker 1: win seventy plus games and they will just mow through
Speaker 1: the playoffs and probably go like sixteen and two and
Speaker 1: leave no doubt about who's the champion. I think that
Speaker 1: would fuel them in a way that is just destructive
Speaker 1: for everybody else. But also keep in mind the second
Speaker 1: apron in this horrible collective bargaining agreement that the league
Speaker 1: and the players have agreed to is designed to end
Speaker 1: these you know, these long runs, and so I like,
Speaker 1: I can't be against that enough. I think it's a
Speaker 1: horrible idea, But I guess that's a conversation for another day.
Speaker 1: I mean, Indiana has to keep this core together, but
Speaker 1: they have to keep building out player development and building
Speaker 1: out as as their role players become too expensive. You
Speaker 1: have to have just that stream coming. Miles Turner will
Speaker 1: be a free agent this summer if they win the title.
Speaker 1: How much is that worth for you? How is he
Speaker 1: played well enough to warrant a big contract? Or do
Speaker 1: you have to make a tough decision down the line of, look,
Speaker 1: we can upgrade at this position, because that is that's
Speaker 1: a I mean there are games he has two rebounds
Speaker 1: right and doesn't and isn't that effective. And there are
Speaker 1: games that he's been a shutdown guy against Chet and
Speaker 1: been phenomenal, so that you know, those are tough decisions
Speaker 1: to make. I mean the team the most obvious team
Speaker 1: to me who could like extend in the way that
Speaker 1: we're seeing from Okac is Houston. Houston has a lot
Speaker 1: of young assets, a lot of draft picks of teams
Speaker 1: that are about to fly. I mean, they've got all
Speaker 1: these suns picks and look at what you know, what's
Speaker 1: happening with Phoenix like Houston is. You know, they're they're
Speaker 1: kind of slow playing it. We don't know if they're
Speaker 1: going to make a big splash offensively this summer. They
Speaker 1: look like an organization that is willing to take a
Speaker 1: longer road. They know what they have now, they have
Speaker 1: an identity, they have a great coach, and I think
Speaker 1: that that's the team. And then obviously the Spurs, right
Speaker 1: like Wenby is an alien and he's you know, as
Speaker 1: long as he can stay on the court, I think
Speaker 1: anything is possible. I mean, I think they be smart
Speaker 1: to cycle in these stars, you know, to play next
Speaker 1: to them every three to five years, because if you
Speaker 1: extend him for fifteen years as a superstar, you can
Speaker 1: have these different timelines just come through while he's just
Speaker 1: this this staple there. So I would say the Spurs
Speaker 1: and the Rockets are the two teams I look at
Speaker 1: as the most stable to be that next Okac.
Speaker 2: All right, what is in the history really of any sports,
Speaker 2: but also the NBA, what's your favorite Game seven?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know.
Speaker 2: You have memories in this whole thing. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: so there's there's a number of Game sevens, but then
Speaker 2: there's the special game sevens. Is there one to you
Speaker 2: that has always meant more to you?
Speaker 1: I mean that that Cavs Warriors one is pretty fun
Speaker 1: for the end of it. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: people remember, like how ugly of a game that was.
Speaker 1: The game? Yeah, the last five minutes are amazing. The
Speaker 1: first forty three were pretty rough, Right, that was a
Speaker 1: pretty bad one. One of the worst ones I've ever
Speaker 1: watched was that. Look, I'm as big a basketball nerd
Speaker 1: as anyone, but Spurs Pistons and in five really rough.
Speaker 1: I think that was like an eighty one seventy four game,
Speaker 1: And I don't even know how they got to that
Speaker 1: many points. So it's not bad. I think I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's heat Spurs twenty thirteen. That was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron went crazy. Obviously you're coming off the
Speaker 1: the Ray Allen shot in game six. Lebron went crazy.
Speaker 1: He had a great game. Tim Duncan had to throw
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, this is seventeen years sixteen, seventeen
Speaker 1: years into his career, Tim Duncan, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he was like he had this fire inside him of
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna will my team to victory and
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. That was a great game. I
Speaker 1: think to me that NBA Finals Game seven is probably
Speaker 1: the one that just I could rewatch over and over again.
Speaker 3: For me, it it just it can't be anything other
Speaker 3: than the three one comeback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, put on the last five minutes. I'll sit
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna do some chores in the first
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. It was.
Speaker 3: It was let's say a tight It was a tight contest.
Speaker 3: There was not a lot of back and forth action.
Speaker 3: Man with with what context surrounded it from the build
Speaker 3: up to it, knowing it had never been done, knowing
Speaker 3: that whether you agree or not, there is some type
Speaker 3: of legacy moment on the line, not only for Lebron James,
Speaker 3: but also for what at that point was deemed maybe
Speaker 3: the greatest team of all time, seventy three and nine
Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1: Right. I'm not into watching Draymond Green his degree, and I.
Speaker 3: Don't think they scored for like a seven minute gap
Speaker 3: in the fourth quar until three.
Speaker 2: But my favorite thing about that to your point, Zach,
Speaker 2: here's what I loved most about that game. The tension
Speaker 2: that was there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everything. I was at home sweating, like just
Speaker 1: doing nothing the whole time. So I think a conditioned.
Speaker 2: See, I think that's what we're going to have coming up.
Speaker 2: I just think you get into this and you want
Speaker 2: the unconscious part of your brain to take over as
Speaker 2: a competitor. But the situation rises, the moments rise, and
Speaker 2: before you know it, you start thinking with that conscious
Speaker 2: part of your brain. Things slow down, things get tight,
Speaker 2: and so that I get the feeling that's what we're
Speaker 2: in for, that we're in for a game seven that's
Speaker 2: been nothing like the first six games, close, tense, tight,
Speaker 2: and just every basket feeling so precious.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think we already saw
Speaker 1: some of that tension in game in Game six, right
Speaker 1: like we saw we saw Okay See kind of turtle
Speaker 1: up a little bit the last like eight minutes of
Speaker 1: the second quarter, the first five minutes of the third quarter.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that team went, Like they weren't
Speaker 1: on the court. I don't know where that team was.
Speaker 1: And I think that shows some of their youth. And
Speaker 1: it's not like Indiana has a ton of experience, but
Speaker 1: this was a young team, chance to win a title
Speaker 1: on the road, and they just they just didn't show up.
Speaker 1: And they talked about they were very accountable after the
Speaker 1: game and it'll be different at home. But now you
Speaker 1: get to see does Indiana fall into that same trap?
Speaker 1: How did they respond? Or they've been so unflappable this
Speaker 1: entire postseason run. Do they just stick with Okay See
Speaker 1: the entire time? I mean, I get it, the ratings
Speaker 1: are down and these are not two sexy markets and everything.
Speaker 1: I really, if you are even kind of a basketball fan,
Speaker 1: I know I just sound like a company man right
Speaker 1: now for the NBA, but like I truly believe like
Speaker 1: you were missing out if you don't watch this Game
Speaker 1: seven like it's been a great series. It has been
Speaker 1: a truly great NBA Finals, and I think the finish
Speaker 1: could be spectacular.
Speaker 3: All right, Zach Harper. Folks will probably want to get
Speaker 3: your coverage of Game seven and or reaction of Game seven.
Speaker 3: They'll get it next week on the drive here, but
Speaker 3: maybe over the weekend serious XM stuff. What can they
Speaker 3: look for in the next few days and around Game seven?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm doing serious XM tomorrow from eleven to
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Speaker 3: a super popular movie movie reviewing podcast. It's if you
Speaker 3: look at certain metrics, it's gone like bigger than a
Speaker 3: lot of his mainstream NBA stuff. He's, uh, I guess
Speaker 3: wearing a couple of hats in that regard. Really fun
Speaker 3: to to chat with Zach Harper, and like I said,
Speaker 3: maybe he'll be in town for Monster Jam in a
Speaker 3: few weeks.
Speaker 1: Uh.
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