Speaker 1: And so then I went kind of on the trail
Speaker 1: and I found that the Jewish rabbis they even traced
Speaker 1: their rabbinic lineage back to Adam, and they say Adam
Speaker 1: was the first king and priest of all creation. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that this line of succession
Speaker 1: was known as the order of Melchisedek, the kings and
Speaker 1: priests of Creation, because when Melchisedek shows up in Genesis,
Speaker 1: which I believe was a Christophane, it was, you know,
Speaker 1: Jesus before he was incarnate. It says what he was
Speaker 1: a king and priest of peace, of Salem, of peace.
Speaker 1: So when you attract those garments, I went through and
Speaker 1: started tracking them, and that did it went from him
Speaker 1: to Enoch, Methuselah, Noah, and it was going through the
Speaker 1: good line till Ham stole them. And then, like we
Speaker 1: talked about last episode, when uncovers his father's nakedness, he
Speaker 1: sleeps with his mother, and when the brothers take a
Speaker 1: garment placed on their backs and walk backwards and cover
Speaker 1: their father's nakedness, the original languages say the garment. They
Speaker 1: took the garment, so they took the symbol of kingship
Speaker 1: in priesthood and placed it back upon the father, refusing
Speaker 1: Ham's rebellion. But when Ham left, he stole.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back my friend Doc Brown. The last time he
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Speaker 3: The last time you were here, we went deep into Esau,
Speaker 3: the serpent seed theories, and the wild Bigfoot connection. The
Speaker 3: listeners absolutely loved it. That episode honestly blew up and
Speaker 3: we barely scratched the surface. One thing we didn't explore
Speaker 3: what I really wanted to dive into today was Adam's garments.
Speaker 3: Right at the end of our last conversation, you mentioned it,
Speaker 3: and it was something that I honestly never heard before,
Speaker 3: so I knew I had to invite you back so
Speaker 3: we can get this information about this Adam's garment. I
Speaker 3: had never heard of it before, so I would love
Speaker 3: to have you take me there.
Speaker 1: Well, my first off, thanks for having me back. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. And yeah, I was the same way
Speaker 1: until two years ago. I just turned forty last year.
Speaker 1: I'll be turned forty one in January. I've been in
Speaker 1: church most of my life and thought I knew a
Speaker 1: lot you know about the Bible and my faith, but
Speaker 1: it's it's been a wild journey. I heard about these
Speaker 1: these supernatural garments from the Garden of God, and I
Speaker 1: had mentioned it briefly in our discussion about how Nimrod.
Speaker 1: How me back up, how Ham had stole the garments
Speaker 1: and it went through Cush and that's how Nimrod had them.
Speaker 1: And then the Book of Jashuer depicted that fight between
Speaker 1: Esau and Nimrod and he steals those garments, and I
Speaker 1: saw I kind of just touched on it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but that's that was my first time encountering those and
Speaker 1: then once I started deep diving and looking through all
Speaker 1: the extra Biblical books and the Ginsburg legends of the Jews,
Speaker 1: it was this whole narrative surrounding these garments. And then
Speaker 1: I ended up getting in touch with zen Garcia, and
Speaker 1: it was funny. I'd already wrote the book and got
Speaker 1: introduced to him, and he had written a book. The
Speaker 1: actually he's written several books. Book. Two of the books
Speaker 1: honestly just lined up perfectly parallel with everything that I
Speaker 1: was finding. So to me, that was like that was
Speaker 1: like holy spiritual confirmation right there, because I had actually
Speaker 1: some people that accused me of kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: rifting off of him, and I was like, no, I
Speaker 1: never even heard him or this book until after I
Speaker 1: released it. But we had exchange and he actually wrote
Speaker 1: a whole book on the garments, but he paired them
Speaker 1: with the supernatural Rod of Wonder, like he said, it
Speaker 1: was a set like Moses's rod. So it's the garment
Speaker 1: and this rod, and I think his book he called
Speaker 1: it the Garments, the Garments from God and the Rod
Speaker 1: of Wonder and kind of covered them also, So it
Speaker 1: was it was really cool. When we met, we got
Speaker 1: really excited because how we had searched the same thing out,
Speaker 1: but we actually I went deeper into Esaul and his
Speaker 1: narrative than he did, so I give him a copy
Speaker 1: of my book and he gave me a copy of his,
Speaker 1: and we kind of swapped info and gained even more
Speaker 1: info on it. So that was really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you have podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I had him on the show and we
Speaker 1: did a couple of shows talking about that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I don't feel bad. I was forty
Speaker 1: years old and never heard of it, but if I
Speaker 1: was to walk you through kind of how I found it, was,
Speaker 1: you know, that book of Jashure incident, And so I
Speaker 1: started reading deeper and got into Ginsburg and they talked
Speaker 1: about well, actually I'm getting ahead of myself, excuse me.
Speaker 1: So when I found that, my first instinct was like, well,
Speaker 1: what are these garments? And then later you have the
Speaker 1: incident with Noah that we talked about last time, and
Speaker 1: it said that this was passed down from Adam, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I have to go back to
Speaker 1: the garden and you know, go back to the beginning
Speaker 1: and read this because I was always taught that there
Speaker 1: are coverings were the first death basically that an animal
Speaker 1: something had to die to be sacrificed to cover their sin,
Speaker 1: and that it was a foreshadowing of Christ. And so
Speaker 1: to me, I was like, well that makes sense, you know,
Speaker 1: even theologically it's a beautiful picture, because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you look at it like that, you can easily
Speaker 1: see that that could be a foreshadowing of Christ shedding
Speaker 1: his blood and covering our sins. But the text just
Speaker 1: don't say that. And like I said, all these things
Speaker 1: that I was taught, I just assumed they were there
Speaker 1: and read the book, you know, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: didn't not read it, but I just kind of went
Speaker 1: over really fast and didn't notice. And so there when
Speaker 1: I went back, the text just says that he gave
Speaker 1: them a garment to cover their nakedness. You know, some
Speaker 1: translations say skins, but I mean that's translations. But when
Speaker 1: you go back to the Hebrew, it says that he
Speaker 1: gave them a connonet. And when you look at that
Speaker 1: word throughout the Old Testament, more often than not, that
Speaker 1: same word is translated as tunic. And with scholars, they
Speaker 1: had this thing called the law first mentioned. So if
Speaker 1: they see a phrase or a word, the context of
Speaker 1: how that is used. A lot of times writers will
Speaker 1: refer to a past story and use that same word
Speaker 1: to reference and point back to that event, connecting those
Speaker 1: events because when they were reading these same words, especially
Speaker 1: in the same book, they're like, oh, the same word
Speaker 1: was just up here a few chapters back. Let me
Speaker 1: go back, so and that same phrase to cover their nakedness.
Speaker 1: I found that that was used to describe the coverings
Speaker 1: of the priests. So when you go into the levitical Laws,
Speaker 1: it says in there that the priests are given a
Speaker 1: connonet to cover their nakedness, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: if we take that law first mentioned, maybe they're pointing
Speaker 1: back to this event in the garden. And I started
Speaker 1: forming this kind this hypothesis because after that, Ezekiel twenty
Speaker 1: eight stood out to me, and that's condemnation to the
Speaker 1: King of Tire. But all of a sudden it changes
Speaker 1: and it's talking to a spiritual entity that was in
Speaker 1: the garden of Eden. It says you were in Eden,
Speaker 1: perfect in all your ways, and every precious stone was
Speaker 1: your covering barrels onyx topaz and I think we talked
Speaker 1: about that last time. And that's a polaroid picture of
Speaker 1: the priestly e fought. So it's painting Satan in a
Speaker 1: priestly role, and it's maybe two versus down from that.
Speaker 1: It eliminates all doubt. It says that he even profaned
Speaker 1: his sanctuaries, so it's painting him in a priestly role
Speaker 1: with these priestly garments. It's even saying that he had
Speaker 1: a sanctuary. So it was like he was the first,
Speaker 1: you know, overseer head priest of creation in heaven, in
Speaker 1: the heavenly Temple. And when I got through Ginsburg looking
Speaker 1: at this, it says that their coverings given to them
Speaker 1: was the skins of the nakash And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I already know from my other studies, like through Michael
Speaker 1: Haiser that this wasn't a snake, So it wasn't a
Speaker 1: snake skin. Now this was a shining one. Well, we
Speaker 1: know from Ezekiel twenty eight his coverings was this priestly
Speaker 1: e fought. So I started developing this theory. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what if whatever happened in the garden, Satan was demoted
Speaker 1: and kicked out and his position of authority was taken
Speaker 1: from him and given to his younger brother Adam. If
Speaker 1: you look at it in the family aspect of God.
Speaker 1: So once again, it's like we talked about last time,
Speaker 1: all these micro narratives woven into the Bible of the
Speaker 1: battle of the brothers, and the younger is always favored
Speaker 1: over the older. Timothy Albarino their excellent job in his
Speaker 1: book Birthright talking about that's what that is. That's the
Speaker 1: overall story of the Bible of the Family of God
Speaker 1: and the battle amongst the family. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: if he was demoted, the garments were taken, it was
Speaker 1: bestowed upon Adam and that's why Adam was given dominion,
Speaker 1: because basically this was the symbol of kingship and priesthood
Speaker 1: was bestowed upon Adam. So that was his coverings. And
Speaker 1: when I got to reading some of these other books,
Speaker 1: it falls right in the line with what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: So I was like, here, you know, nothing news under
Speaker 1: the sun. Here I thought I found this original thing.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean they were talking about this thousands
Speaker 1: of years ago and we're just now rediscovering these things.
Speaker 3: As Solomon says, wow, that's really crazy now. So I know,
Speaker 3: there's so many questions that I have. First of all,
Speaker 3: the Genesis kind of hints, well, some people say Genesis
Speaker 3: hints that there was pre ademic race or humans before Adam.
Speaker 3: Where do you lend on that? Do you think there
Speaker 3: are people before Adam came and before he sinned?
Speaker 1: I think there was two creations, But the term pre
Speaker 1: atom or pre atom might The only way that I
Speaker 1: would agree with that term is if they're talking about
Speaker 1: on Earth. I think that there was a race that
Speaker 1: was created and put in on Earth before Adam. Once again,
Speaker 1: this was something that once I went back to Genesis
Speaker 1: and got to reading, I was taught that, you know,
Speaker 1: day six, he creates man and it says male and female.
Speaker 1: He created them, so he's talking about creating them together
Speaker 1: at once. And then later you get another story, but
Speaker 1: it's the creation of Adam and he's pinched from the
Speaker 1: clay of the ground, and we get an undisclosed amount
Speaker 1: of time. But it has to be a significant amount
Speaker 1: of time because he's already had time to name all
Speaker 1: the animals, he's had time to get familiar with the
Speaker 1: land and to finally realize that he's lonely and that
Speaker 1: he needs a helpmate. So this had to be, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, a significant amount of time to realize that
Speaker 1: what he was lacking. So but when you get I
Speaker 1: was always told that that was just a retelling of
Speaker 1: the same event that happened in Genesis six. But when
Speaker 1: you read that with a closer look, it says that
Speaker 1: when Adam was created, he was created before there was
Speaker 1: any vegetation on the ground. That's what it says. Well,
Speaker 1: vegetation was laid out on day three, So we don't
Speaker 1: know when Adam was created, but we do know, if
Speaker 1: we believe what the texts say, he was created before
Speaker 1: day three. It's just he was in Eden and then
Speaker 1: Earth was created, and this other day, six people was
Speaker 1: put on the Earth. And when Adam screwed up, he
Speaker 1: was kicked out of Eden and put into the general
Speaker 1: population of the other people. And those are the people.
Speaker 1: Why Caine is so scared. I mean, who's he afraid of?
Speaker 1: It's just this small little family. When he's kicked out
Speaker 1: of the family, he said, oh, they're going to kill me.
Speaker 1: What people? Who those people?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Who did his children marry those people? He says, he
Speaker 1: goes and builds a city, well with what people? Those people?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: Okay, we so Seatan. You said Setan ruled or was
Speaker 3: ruling or something before Adam. He was already on Earth.
Speaker 3: This is the Angel of Light or the shining one.
Speaker 3: You said, these six people put on Earth? Are you
Speaker 3: seeing someplace else and came and put on Earth?
Speaker 1: Now, I just think like Eden was like not on Earth,
Speaker 1: like it was, it was separate. It was something else.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was there but in the
Speaker 1: upside down like a stranger things goes, or if it
Speaker 1: was a different planet, or if it was actually in heaven.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know where Eden was, but I
Speaker 1: believe it was separate because it describes it, you know,
Speaker 1: as a garden. I can't remember that word used now,
Speaker 1: but I do remember hearing a bunch of theologians and
Speaker 1: scholars talking about it that that word describes an enclosure
Speaker 1: with walls, like you know, an atrium. So this was
Speaker 1: its own little separate thing away, I believe.
Speaker 3: So Adam was there alone, possibly rolling over the animals
Speaker 3: or whatever, and then Eve came along, and then that's
Speaker 3: when they messed up and.
Speaker 5: They were betrue or they were deceived, or I guess
Speaker 5: Eve that was deceived, right, And that's when they ate
Speaker 5: of the tree of knowledge?
Speaker 3: Was it right?
Speaker 4: And then and then after that, that's when they put
Speaker 4: the fig leaves together and they were hiding, and that's
Speaker 4: what Yahweh or Jehovah came and gave them the garments. Okay,
Speaker 4: this garment was the skin of some sort of garment
Speaker 4: of animal skin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we were taught. But I think that
Speaker 1: skin was the priestly e fod the robes of the
Speaker 1: priest because he was saying, you know, because both of
Speaker 1: them were punished. Yeah, so it's like, you know, Adam,
Speaker 1: you were up here and had had it made, so
Speaker 1: now you're going down there with the general population into
Speaker 1: the slums. You were in the nice could of sax subdivision,
Speaker 1: but you messed up, and now you're going to the
Speaker 1: subdivision in the verbs in the lower part of Manhattan,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So uh.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, Satan was punished his crown,
Speaker 1: his his dominion that he had, you know, over earth,
Speaker 1: and that population I believe, was then bestowed upon Adam,
Speaker 1: Adam and given to him, because Adam was actually called
Speaker 1: in scripture a banah eloheim, a son of God. And
Speaker 1: every time that phrase is used, it's talking about divine
Speaker 1: heavenly beings. So if you look at it with that
Speaker 1: kind of perspective, Adam himself was one who kept not
Speaker 1: his first estate, and Jesus was said he was the
Speaker 1: second atom. Well, Jesus was an high, he was the
Speaker 1: bne high Elohem. And the New Testament tells us that
Speaker 1: that's the promise that we have, you know, pol says
Speaker 1: specifically that that we will become sons of God like Adam,
Speaker 1: so we will return back into the family of God.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what happened to these garments?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was when I discovered that, And so then
Speaker 1: I went kind of on the trail, and h I
Speaker 1: found that the Jewish rabbis they even traced their rabbinic
Speaker 1: lineage back to Adam, and they say Adam was the
Speaker 1: first king and priest of all creation. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people think that this line of succession was known
Speaker 1: as the order of Malkisa, dec the kings and priests
Speaker 1: of Creation, because when milk Esedek shows up in Genesis,
Speaker 1: which I believe was a Christophany, it was, you know,
Speaker 1: Jesus before he was incarnate. It says what he was
Speaker 1: a king and priest of peace, of Salem, of peace.
Speaker 1: So when you attract those garments, I went through and
Speaker 1: started tracking them, and it did. It went from him
Speaker 1: to Enoch, Methuselah and Noah, and it was going through
Speaker 1: the good line until ham stole them. And then like
Speaker 1: we talked about last episode, when ham uncovers his father's nakedness,
Speaker 1: he sleeps with his mother and when the brothers take
Speaker 1: a garment placed on their backs and walk backwards and
Speaker 1: covered their father's nakedness, the original languages see the garment.
Speaker 1: They took the garment, so they took the symbol of
Speaker 1: kingship in priesthood and placed it back upon their father
Speaker 1: refusing Ham's rebellion. But when Ham left, he stole them
Speaker 1: and he gives them to Cush, and then Cush hides them,
Speaker 1: and then he gives them to Nimrod. And it says
Speaker 1: that at the coming of age at twenty years old,
Speaker 1: when Nimrod had his coming of age birthday twenty years old,
Speaker 1: he was given these garments excuse me, and that he
Speaker 1: put on the garments and at that time he became
Speaker 1: a gibble ring. And it kind of answers the questions
Speaker 1: that a lot of us asking Genesis because it's kind
Speaker 1: of peculiar that Nimrod wasn't born a givele ring. You know,
Speaker 1: it plainly says he became a gible ring. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people have speculated over the years, Oh, it
Speaker 1: was a cult rituals, or it was a cult sex magic,
Speaker 1: or it was you know, the Faustian bar again, or
Speaker 1: you know, all these different of ideas of how he
Speaker 1: became a gibor you know, a nephilem uh. But the
Speaker 1: ancient Jewish belief in the text point to these garments.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been a combination of things,
Speaker 1: but the garments had, you know, something to do with it.
Speaker 1: And it says that Adam and whoever wore these garments,
Speaker 1: that all of creation was submissive to them, that the
Speaker 1: animals would even bow to the wearer. And that's how
Speaker 1: Moses got I'm sorry, how Noah got all the animals
Speaker 1: onto the boat. And then yeah, and Adam that's why
Speaker 1: all of them obeyed him and you know, didn't fight,
Speaker 1: and he named them all because he had these garments.
Speaker 1: He was the king and priest of creation. Here he was,
Speaker 1: you know, subduing it.
Speaker 3: Oh, wow, that's interesting, and that is I had never
Speaker 3: heard that before. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had neither.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Nimrod gets them and then we knew by
Speaker 1: our conversation last time that Esau. Nimrod went to hunt
Speaker 1: and kill Esaul because he looked like this beast of
Speaker 1: a man. And Esau ends up killing him and stealing
Speaker 1: these garments and goes back home. He hides them, and
Speaker 1: then he goes into his brother's tent, tying into the
Speaker 1: Genesis story where it just says that he come in
Speaker 1: from the field exhausted. I mean, that's why he was exhausted,
Speaker 1: and he was desperate, you know, he was on the run.
Speaker 1: So that's why he traded his birth right. For it
Speaker 1: wasn't a bull of stew. I think that was kind
Speaker 1: of allegorical, for you know, give me a life saving potion,
Speaker 1: you know, or save or sew up my wounds and
Speaker 1: hide me. The king's men are looking for me. And
Speaker 1: we see these garments several times throughout scripture, but when
Speaker 1: you don't know what to look for, you look right
Speaker 1: over it. And I think we see them again in
Speaker 1: that story when we get to the deception for the Blessing.
Speaker 1: If you remember, Esau goes into his father's tent and
Speaker 1: he says, I go hunting, son, and I want to
Speaker 1: taste your game one last time, and I hop stow
Speaker 1: upon you the Blessing. Rebecca hears it, and she runs
Speaker 1: and tells Jacob and tells Jacob to go, you know,
Speaker 1: kill some young goats and bring the meat to her
Speaker 1: and she would prepare a meal. And he go in
Speaker 1: pretend to be he saw because Isaac was going blind
Speaker 1: at this time, and still the blessing, and he does,
Speaker 1: and they end up having to take the goat's fur
Speaker 1: and wrap around him as the story goes, to fool
Speaker 1: their father because he was literally that hairy, but people
Speaker 1: missed that the final cherry on top for the whole
Speaker 1: thing was. And in there it says that before she
Speaker 1: sends him in, she goes to esaus Hint and says
Speaker 1: that she takes his special garments and places them upon Jacob.
Speaker 1: So I think we see him again there. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: And it's this little trail, I mean, if you follow it.
Speaker 1: And so we know from that instance there that Jacob
Speaker 1: now has the garments, and we know that Jacob later
Speaker 1: his name is changed to Israel. Well, Israel has twelve sons,
Speaker 1: and here's that narrative again, the youngest son, Joseph. It
Speaker 1: has the same terminology there that was given to Nimrod
Speaker 1: in the Book of Jasher. It says that Nimrod was
Speaker 1: the child of Cusha's old age, whom he loved exceedingly,
Speaker 1: and he bestowed upon him the garments. And so then
Speaker 1: when you get to this story, it says that Joseph
Speaker 1: was the child of Israel's old age, whom he loved exceedingly.
Speaker 1: And what does he do. He bestows upon him a
Speaker 1: coat of many colors. That's how it's translated. If we
Speaker 1: go back to Ezekiel twenty eight every precious stone was
Speaker 1: recovering barrel onyx topaz jasper. That would be a very
Speaker 1: colorful garment. Yes, wow wow, Okay, so that yeah, And
Speaker 1: there's just so many connections with it, and once you
Speaker 1: start finding them. I was having those wow moments too,
Speaker 1: because I mean it flows just like a needle and
Speaker 1: thread through a garment. You can follow it. And in
Speaker 1: that story we see that when Joseph gets these garments,
Speaker 1: he puts them on, what happens. He starts having all
Speaker 1: kinds of supernatural stuff happen. It's not until that he
Speaker 1: gets these garments. And when he gets these garments, it
Speaker 1: says that he starts having prophetic dreams and he says
Speaker 1: the Telly's brothers, he says, the stars of Heaven bow
Speaker 1: before me. Well, the stars is, you know, equated to
Speaker 1: the angelic host many times? You know, Job says, you know,
Speaker 1: where were you when the morning stars the sons of
Speaker 1: God saying for joy at the side of creation. And
Speaker 1: he's saying that the angelic coast is bowing to him
Speaker 1: now that he has these garments. Why because he's the
Speaker 1: king and priest of Creation with those garments, and it
Speaker 1: says that he says all the animals bow before me,
Speaker 1: brother once again. The Jewish traditions say that the wire
Speaker 1: these subdues the animal kingdom. And he says, in the
Speaker 1: wheat of the field, even bow before me. And he
Speaker 1: said in you my brothers bow before me and will
Speaker 1: serve me. And that's when Reuben and the other boys
Speaker 1: were like, uh uh, we gotta get rid of this dude.
Speaker 1: He gotta go. And the last time we see it
Speaker 1: in that's a scene or setting was we don't know
Speaker 1: if they took the entire garment or a piece of
Speaker 1: the garment, but we see that. I think it was
Speaker 1: a piece personally, but they I think they took a
Speaker 1: piece of the garment, ripped it off of him before
Speaker 1: they sold him, and it says they dipped it in
Speaker 1: animal's blood and then brought it to Israel and said,
Speaker 1: you know, this is all he's left of your son.
Speaker 1: You know, a wild animal tore him to pieces, so
Speaker 1: they hand him this, you know, blood soaked priestly Ephod.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I think it was just a
Speaker 1: piece is because not only do we find these garments
Speaker 1: threaded throughout these stories and legends, it even pops up
Speaker 1: in archaeology and history. I had David Roll on my
Speaker 1: show a while back, and you know, he's a well
Speaker 1: known archaeologist, and he's you know, well versed in biblical
Speaker 1: history and the Egyptian history and things like that. And
Speaker 1: he was telling me that in the Bible where it
Speaker 1: mentions the city of Ramseys, he said, they wrote that,
Speaker 1: you know, looking back, he said, at the time it
Speaker 1: was it was called Ramses, he says, but when it
Speaker 1: was originally founded, it was named Avarus. And he said,
Speaker 1: and Avarus was a known Semite city, And Semite is
Speaker 1: just another you know, it's a political correct term for
Speaker 1: you know, Middle Eastern Jewish, you know, descent person. So
Speaker 1: this kind of correlates to the story in Genesis where
Speaker 1: there was a great famine in the land everyone went
Speaker 1: to Egypt to try to get their grain and food,
Speaker 1: and that in the end Joseph invites his father and
Speaker 1: all of his brothers to live in Egypt, and that
Speaker 1: the Pharaoh gives him a piece of land to have
Speaker 1: as their own. This is of ARUs. They settled of ARUs,
Speaker 1: that was their city. And he said that in the
Speaker 1: center of the city they found this really big home,
Speaker 1: like twice as big as all the other ones. And
Speaker 1: it was in the center of the city. He said,
Speaker 1: those were high official houses. And he said, in behind
Speaker 1: the house was a small pyramid tomb. And he said,
Speaker 1: only high officials, you know, and important people like that,
Speaker 1: you know, got these types of burials. And when they
Speaker 1: dug in, they found that the tomb was empty, but
Speaker 1: they found broken pieces of a statue just scattered around
Speaker 1: the entire tomb. And so he said, look like someone
Speaker 1: just had deliberately, you know, busted this thing up. And
Speaker 1: he said, So they started gathering the pieces and washing
Speaker 1: them off and trying to reassemble this statue and that
Speaker 1: when they did, they noticed that the skin was painted yallow. Well,
Speaker 1: the Egyptians don't paint their statues yallow. That's a semite thing.
Speaker 1: And they got to the head. The head had bright
Speaker 1: flame red hair. We know that that was a genealogical
Speaker 1: type thing because Esau come out with red hair. And
Speaker 1: then he said, and all these different things, he said,
Speaker 1: that just pointed to semite, semite, semite. And he said
Speaker 1: and then he said, the final piece to the puzzle,
Speaker 1: draped over his shoulders was a coat of many colors.
Speaker 1: Thank god, he said, So, I think we found the
Speaker 1: tomb of Joseph, he said, And why was it empty?
Speaker 1: He said? The Book of Genesis tells us why, because
Speaker 1: next us when they left, they gathered up the bones
Speaker 1: of Joseph and took them with them.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not just stories. I mean, it's it's real.
Speaker 3: Do we know what happens to it after that?
Speaker 1: Well, after that kind of it kind of goes quiet.
Speaker 1: And so but what I believe, I think we see them,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, at least two more times, and one
Speaker 1: is with Elijah and Elijah, and I love that story
Speaker 1: and I actually designed t shirts here recently and put
Speaker 1: on my store of the story of those two guys
Speaker 1: in First Kings because I think it's I ain't going
Speaker 1: to try to guess the verse now, I'll butcher it.
Speaker 1: But in the story, though, it says that basically, Elijah
Speaker 1: runs up when he sees Elijah and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to follow you. I want to be your apprentice.
Speaker 1: I want to do what you do. And Elijah tells
Speaker 1: him if you want to be with me, you've got
Speaker 1: to give up everything. He said, You've got to walk
Speaker 1: away from your family, everything you've ever known, because if
Speaker 1: you do this, it's a lifetime commitment. There's no going back,
Speaker 1: so you have to abandon everything. So Elijah he goes
Speaker 1: back because he was in the middle of plow in
Speaker 1: his field when he's seen Elijah coming to the town
Speaker 1: and he just stopped and left the oxen and the
Speaker 1: plow and run off after him. So Elijah goes back
Speaker 1: and he kills the oxen and burns his plow. That way,
Speaker 1: you know, he has nothing to go back to. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the Vikings burning their ships once they landed,
Speaker 1: you know, it's succeed or die.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was a beautiful story. But I
Speaker 1: made like a plow on the back of one of
Speaker 1: the shirts and it's on fire, and a guy walking
Speaker 1: away it says, burn your plow. But in that story, though,
Speaker 1: you have the famous whirlwind. You know, Elijah is taken
Speaker 1: up like Enoch, you know, to Heaven to God in
Speaker 1: a whirlwind. Well, Elijah's following him the whole time, and
Speaker 1: Elijah just trying to basically run him off. He's like,
Speaker 1: you can't be with me, you know, you gotta go,
Speaker 1: Like I got to go somewhere that you can't go.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll never abandon you. I'll ever leave your side.
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, okay, we'll fine, you know. And
Speaker 1: they get there and he's like, well, I'm about to leave.
Speaker 1: What do you want from me? You know you want
Speaker 1: a blessing or you know, what do you want before
Speaker 1: I leave? And he says, issues for a double a
Speaker 1: double portion of your spirit so he could do the
Speaker 1: miracles and perform the things and do the things that
Speaker 1: he did. And he tells him that the thing you
Speaker 1: ask is not a small thing, he said, but if
Speaker 1: you are allowed to see my departure, consider your request granted.
Speaker 1: And he witnesses Elijah taking up in the chariots of fire,
Speaker 1: and it says the only thing left behind. In the
Speaker 1: English translations, it says a mantle. Well, once again, I
Speaker 1: could be stretching here. I mean, I can admit this.
Speaker 1: I could be stretching. Okay, but oh it's a it's
Speaker 1: a clothing, like a cloak or whatever. But the original
Speaker 1: language a tunic, a connonit his connonet fell and dropped
Speaker 1: to the ground that was always remained. And it says
Speaker 1: that Elisha picks up this mantle, this canonit, this covering,
Speaker 1: and starts walking towards the Jordan, and it says that
Speaker 1: he makes it to the Jordan River and he takes
Speaker 1: the the cloak or the mantle and smacks it onto
Speaker 1: the water and the Jordan River parts so he can
Speaker 1: cross over. I think I think those are the supernatural
Speaker 1: garments from the Garden of God.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it has to, because the Ocean of bad
Speaker 3: everything abayes. Okay, So then what happens after that?
Speaker 1: And after that there's not that I've seen anyway any
Speaker 1: more allusions to it until you get to the Book
Speaker 1: of Revelation. And here's my thing that I love, and
Speaker 1: I get so excited about finding these things. It's cool
Speaker 1: if you find something and you think it's this or that,
Speaker 1: and even if you've got to kind of stretch it little,
Speaker 1: you know, even if you're being honest, you know, you're like,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it there. But when you find two
Speaker 1: or three of them, it's like, Okay, there's something here.
Speaker 1: But then when you find two or three of them,
Speaker 1: but the last one you find ties perfectly into the
Speaker 1: first one, like a seamless thread connecting everything as a whole,
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is a thing, and it was
Speaker 1: it had intention and I think that's what this was.
Speaker 1: Because when you get to the Book of Revelation and
Speaker 1: you have the you know, Jesus, like we talked about earlier,
Speaker 1: said what he was the second atom or the first atom,
Speaker 1: the first king and priest of creation that had the
Speaker 1: covering screwed up. So the second atom had to come
Speaker 1: and get it right. And when you get to the
Speaker 1: Book of Hebrews, it flat out says it connects Melkisa Dik,
Speaker 1: the Order of Melchisa Diic, to Christ, and it says
Speaker 1: that he had no beginning, no mother, and no father,
Speaker 1: and he reigns in the Temple of God as a
Speaker 1: priest forever. It's without end. And I thought that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And then so when you get to Revelation,
Speaker 1: you have the return of Christ and he's on this
Speaker 1: you know horse. It's a conquering king imagery. You know,
Speaker 1: the first time he came, he come on a donkey.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the historical side of that,
Speaker 1: that is a king that won without having to kill someone.
Speaker 1: You know that he wanted by peace and persuasion. He
Speaker 1: won over the people would ride in on a donkey,
Speaker 1: and that was a sign of his conquering and you know,
Speaker 1: accepting the people and the people accepting him. He took
Speaker 1: it over without war. They wanted him. But the horse
Speaker 1: imagery is is war his imagery. It's the conquering king
Speaker 1: image tree. So the first time he come in on
Speaker 1: a donkey, the second time he comes in on a
Speaker 1: war horse with a flaming sword, and it says that
Speaker 1: it describes this beautiful arrayment that he has on it
Speaker 1: says that you know, he has this beautiful garment, and
Speaker 1: on the thigh it says king of king, lord of lords,
Speaker 1: talks about the crown, this flaming sword, and it says
Speaker 1: that blood is stained up to the bridle and his cloak.
Speaker 1: I think that that is. And it also says the
Speaker 1: rod of iron, the rod of Moses. So I think
Speaker 1: that that is those garments and that supernatural rod that
Speaker 1: was in the ark of the Covenant. This is the
Speaker 1: two piece set like sin pointed out to the king
Speaker 1: and priest of creation. And then it's soaked in blood
Speaker 1: that goes right back to Joseph. Joseph's garment was ripped
Speaker 1: and torn and soaked in blood. And a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know this that are not Jewish or don't
Speaker 1: look into the Jewish contexts of things, they believed in
Speaker 1: two messiahs. They had the one that we see as Jesus,
Speaker 1: the one that comes and conquers and creates a new
Speaker 1: kingdom and reigns forever on the throne of David. But
Speaker 1: then there was another messiah before, and that he was
Speaker 1: known as Uh Messiah Ben Joseph. It so there's two messiahs,
Speaker 1: and it's Joseph, and he had the garments, he done
Speaker 1: all the supernatural stuff. Uh saved God's people. And then
Speaker 1: here we have Christ coming back saving God's people with
Speaker 1: this garment stained in blood, just like Joseph. And I
Speaker 1: think it's God trying to show his stubborn, stiff necked
Speaker 1: people that still don't accept him because a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say a lot of people, some people
Speaker 1: may not realize that the Jewish people, true Jewish people,
Speaker 1: do not accept Christ. They don't think he was the Messiah.
Speaker 1: And I think that through all this imagery, He's trying
Speaker 1: to point to this Yosiah ben Joseph that they firmly
Speaker 1: believe in already and be like, no, look look at him,
Speaker 1: look at me, I'm your second Messiah. And you know
Speaker 1: it's time to repent or die. I mean basically, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, and I think he does
Speaker 1: that a lot because he loves his people and he
Speaker 1: talks about it all the time. In Scripture, there are
Speaker 1: stiff necked people and they were so hung up on
Speaker 1: Yosiah ben Joseph they missed the Christ. The same thing
Speaker 1: with Moses. They were so hung up on Moses and
Speaker 1: the law that they missed the coming of the Messiah
Speaker 1: right in their face. And if we look at those
Speaker 1: I think that God was doing this just like the
Speaker 1: imagery I was trying to say earlier, pointing back to
Speaker 1: the Messiah they believed in, trying to show that he
Speaker 1: was better in every way to grab his people's attention.
Speaker 1: I think he was doing it again through the stories
Speaker 1: of Moses and Jesus, because when you run those two parallel,
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy. Moses was born, a king gets word
Speaker 1: and tries to kill him and orders the first born
Speaker 1: of the nation to be killed, or what happens. He's
Speaker 1: put in a basket and sent to Egypt to be saved.
Speaker 1: When Christ is born, a king hears about it orders
Speaker 1: all the first born to be dead. What happens. Christ
Speaker 1: and his family flee to Egypt to be saved. Moses,
Speaker 1: he goes through the Red Sea. He goes through the
Speaker 1: waters and enters the wilderness for forty years and is
Speaker 1: repeatedly tempted, and he fails repeatedly. Christ he's baptized by
Speaker 1: John the Baptist. He goes through the waters. What happens
Speaker 1: right after that, folks, He goes into the wilderness for
Speaker 1: forty days and is tempted the entire time. That passes
Speaker 1: the test, and then finally you have the serpent. It
Speaker 1: says that when God's people were being attacked by these
Speaker 1: fiery naicautious that he told him to make a bronze nakosh,
Speaker 1: a bronze shining one, and place it onto a pole,
Speaker 1: and that all who looked and believed would be healed
Speaker 1: and saved. Christ was raised up on a pole, and
Speaker 1: John three sixteen tells us all who look and believe
Speaker 1: shall be saved. So all those people that still deny Jesus,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's showing you in so many ways, all
Speaker 1: all the things that you have your trust and hope
Speaker 1: in is false, and he's trying to show you he's
Speaker 1: better in every single way.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty cool. I've never heard that. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: If the garment carried divine origins and purpose, why why
Speaker 3: do you think God would allow that to fall into
Speaker 3: hands of men like him or Nimrod or Esau.
Speaker 1: Because I think stuff like that it all has, you know,
Speaker 1: divine purpose. And xen Rapaly bashed me over the head
Speaker 1: for not remembering this. But there was a rabbi perk Delyasar,
Speaker 1: and he was there in the Second Temple, and he
Speaker 1: gave a lot of prophecies about the ten kings, and
Speaker 1: he talked about the battle of this seed war and
Speaker 1: how the kingship the garments were going back and forth
Speaker 1: between these two seed lines and battling, and it's over
Speaker 1: the dominion of earth. And I think that God is
Speaker 1: a god of his word Deuteronomy thirty two. You know,
Speaker 1: he portioned out the peoples and the lands amongst the
Speaker 1: bane high Elohim, the sons of God. So he told them,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, this is your portion, this is your portion,
Speaker 1: you know, and portioned it all out between his sons
Speaker 1: and said to you, it's yours the rule to do
Speaker 1: with it as you please. But Israel is my allotted
Speaker 1: portion my allotted inheritance, and so he done that, and
Speaker 1: it was part of the all part of the divine plan.
Speaker 1: He knew they would rebel. He knew that they would,
Speaker 1: you know, go wicked. Psalms eighty two or eighty nine,
Speaker 1: eighty two or eighty nine. I think it's eighty two,
Speaker 1: But it says, how long will you rule unjustly and
Speaker 1: show partiality to the wicked? You know, you desire to
Speaker 1: rule the eternal life, but you shall die and fall
Speaker 1: like any prince. Just not talking about human folks, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're going to die. Duh. Of course he's talking
Speaker 1: to divine heavenly beings, you know. But right after that
Speaker 1: he caused out Abraham and he says, through your name,
Speaker 1: all nations shall be blessed. So it was the plan
Speaker 1: from the Again, he knew they were going to rebel.
Speaker 1: He knew things were going to turn the crap. He
Speaker 1: knew there was going to be this power struggle. But
Speaker 1: he he's the devil, and all these his kids are
Speaker 1: playing three D chess. He's playing twelve D chess. He's
Speaker 1: the way ahead of all of them. So he had
Speaker 1: this divine bloodline established, and he knew that Christ was
Speaker 1: going to come through the Messiah and redeem the world,
Speaker 1: die for the sins of the world and cover their
Speaker 1: sins and bring them back into the family of God
Speaker 1: and reverse what happened at the Tower of Bible. So
Speaker 1: I think that he's a god of his words. So
Speaker 1: he portioned those things out to them, so he lets
Speaker 1: them have them. But at the same time, it was
Speaker 1: originally given to mankind and we are left to our
Speaker 1: own devices. So people want to say, how come you know,
Speaker 1: if God's real, all this evil stuff happens, you know,
Speaker 1: how come this, this and this, and uh, because he
Speaker 1: gave it to us, I think, and the world right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're left to your own devices.
Speaker 3: Exactly. This is now his kingdom currently on earth, which
Speaker 3: is why he tempted Jesus with the kingdoms, because.
Speaker 1: That was to give Yep, he didn't dispute.
Speaker 3: Him neither, right exactly exactly. So was Adam given authority
Speaker 3: in edom that the nakash once held.
Speaker 1: Is that what happened? I think. I think the title
Speaker 1: and like the garments and stuff like that was given
Speaker 1: to him, but it was it was relocated, you know,
Speaker 1: it was you know basically like, okay, this is a
Speaker 1: job that was in the heavenly Temple of God. But
Speaker 1: now that guy has been fired and demoted, and you
Speaker 1: over here you should be fired and demoted. But I'm
Speaker 1: having mercy because it wasn't as bad as his. So
Speaker 1: here here's his best boss sign that was on his door.
Speaker 1: You go down to the hallway down to the left.
Speaker 1: You've lost your corner window office and that's going to
Speaker 1: be your office now. So that's kind of how I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible with analogies, but so yeah, you got the
Speaker 1: title and the position. It's just you've been relocated and
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the zeal and the pomp that it
Speaker 1: used to have. And Paul even talks about that. You know,
Speaker 1: he says that as far as like our dominion and
Speaker 1: how it was given to Satan, he said that dominion
Speaker 1: was given to us, and he said that we traded
Speaker 1: the truth for a lie. We worshiped the created things
Speaker 1: instead of the creator.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's exactly right. So it was Adam meant to
Speaker 3: function more like a priest, I guess in Eden. That's
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