Speaker 1: This is Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Her parents were Hollywood insiders, Peter Bogdanovich and Polly Platt.
Speaker 2: She started out in journalism but soon could no longer
Speaker 2: ignore the call of her genetic legacy and became a
Speaker 2: director in her own right, and re released the director's
Speaker 2: cut of Sleep No More, which is out now. Antonio Bogdanovic, Welcome.
Speaker 2: The story of this film is an involved one, isn't
Speaker 2: it Yes.
Speaker 3: And it's definitely inspired from my own childhood. It's a
Speaker 3: story about two brothers and their father is an expats
Speaker 3: in the UK, and he was a great actor, a
Speaker 3: great Shakespearean actor at some point in his life. Right
Speaker 3: now he's a degenerate gambler, and he's put both his
Speaker 3: kids in a very precarious position. They have to basically
Speaker 3: pickpocket and steal so they could put food on the plate,
Speaker 3: pay the rent once in a while, and feed their
Speaker 3: fathers drinking and gambling addiction.
Speaker 2: I keep reading comparisons to the Shakespearean tragedy about Sleep
Speaker 2: No More, but it looks and sounds more to me
Speaker 2: along the lines of Dickens something Dickensonian.
Speaker 3: It definitely is. And I love Dickens and I related
Speaker 3: to him. Look my friends in high school. I was
Speaker 3: definitely a troubled kid. I didn't have an idyllic childhood
Speaker 3: by any means. You can read a lot about that
Speaker 3: on the internet. There was ups and downs, there was
Speaker 3: divorce of murders. So I decided I liked the other
Speaker 3: side of the tracks. I was like, I relate more
Speaker 3: to these kids. So my kids were my friends were
Speaker 3: surfers and skaters in Santa Monica. They were petty criminals
Speaker 3: and burglars, and so I got a first time look
Speaker 3: at that. My house was robbed. I had the nicest house,
Speaker 3: you know, my mother had a great house in the
Speaker 3: nice area of Santa Monica. And you know, my friends
Speaker 3: decided to drop my house and I didn't find out
Speaker 3: for a year. So it's about that lack of trust
Speaker 3: with criminals. It's like, oh, well, wait a minute. I
Speaker 3: thought it was cool when you were feeling other in
Speaker 3: other people's homes. Not that I participated that. I did
Speaker 3: not participate, but I thought it was cool and edgy
Speaker 3: at the time. But when you are a victim of crime,
Speaker 3: it's a really different It's like it was. It was
Speaker 3: gut wrenching because these were my close friends. Two of them,
Speaker 3: my boyfriend and his best friend who happened to be
Speaker 3: a mutual friend. I knew my best friend long before
Speaker 3: I had met the boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Sleep No More is the film, and the director is
Speaker 2: Peter Bogdanovitch's daughter and Polly Plant's daughter. Antonio Bogdanovitch is
Speaker 2: with us, and so you can see that in that
Speaker 2: these two brothers soon don't don't trust each other.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and they're also parenting each other, this idea of
Speaker 3: like there's no parent here. Sometimes you know, Becket's telling
Speaker 3: him what to do and like you just got to
Speaker 3: keep going and we get through this and we don't
Speaker 3: need to go anywhere, and Samuel is like, we're stuck
Speaker 3: in the MUDs. We got to get out of here.
Speaker 3: And then at one point, you know, when Beckett becomes
Speaker 3: trying to do some higher level criminality, you know, by
Speaker 3: being a counterfeitter, he's like, he thought, of Bentley, we
Speaker 3: need groceries. You know. So it's this idea of them
Speaker 3: parent each other and also being on different sides, like
Speaker 3: what are you doing, Like you're going to get us
Speaker 3: in more trouble than we're already in, and you're.
Speaker 2: Going to see some familiar faces. Rebecca Romjen is in it.
Speaker 2: Also Thomas Brodie Sangster. He's all grown up since his
Speaker 2: role in Love. Actually, Ashley Hamilton's son of George Hamilton,
Speaker 2: is in at Sleep No More is the film and
Speaker 2: Antonio Bogdanovic is is the director. It's the director's cut
Speaker 2: that's in re release right now and out everywhere you
Speaker 2: get your movies. What if there is a number one
Speaker 2: thing that you learned about the film industry from your day?
Speaker 3: Oh boss, never give up, Never give up, no matter
Speaker 3: how many no's you get. Because that was my first film,
Speaker 3: I have been working really hard on various projects and
Speaker 3: various scripts son that I wrote, some that I didn't write,
Speaker 3: to make my next film, and it's been hard. It's
Speaker 3: been very difficult for various reasons. Timing. There's many times
Speaker 3: that I wanted to quit and my father said, don't
Speaker 3: give up, and really sticking with it. I have seen
Speaker 3: progress as below as it.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, Antonio bogdanovic Just the other
Speaker 2: day they re ran Paper Moon on Turner Classic movies
Speaker 2: It is one of my favorites of your father's, not
Speaker 2: only because of the imagery, not only because of the
Speaker 2: great acting and the great story. But he was very careful,
Speaker 2: and I'm an old radio guy, he was very careful
Speaker 2: to make sure to include the importance of radio in
Speaker 2: that story. You always hear a radio on in the background.
Speaker 2: They're always listening to the radio or arguing about something
Speaker 2: that is going on in the radio.
Speaker 3: Uh well, let me tell you something. I think the
Speaker 3: radio is key in that movie. That's so interesting you
Speaker 3: brought that up. And I love the radio. I listen
Speaker 3: to the radio to this day, every day, every morning,
Speaker 3: and I've done it since I was probably a teenager,
Speaker 3: even in my own room. You know, we had those
Speaker 3: you know, those high fives and you can into the radio.
Speaker 3: My father listened to the radio growing up, and I
Speaker 3: feel like, honestly, and he loved the radio. And so
Speaker 3: it gives me a source of my imagination because if
Speaker 3: I'm just listening to something, I have to imagine, you know,
Speaker 3: what they're talking about, or them in the studio, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not in that world, so I kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's so cool because I've never
Speaker 3: even I think I've been to a few radio stations. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I really appreciate that part of it. And you really
Speaker 3: you have a window in stained character when she's sitting
Speaker 3: there listening to radio and you know her wife Peter
Speaker 3: looking a cigarette. It's I love that movie.
Speaker 2: Well that's what he taught me.
Speaker 3: He used that movie. He used that movie when when
Speaker 3: before I directed my first short film, I said, Dad,
Speaker 3: can you give me some pointer. It's not that he
Speaker 3: had in my whole life, but I wanted some specificity.
Speaker 3: And he went through every lens and every shot, and
Speaker 3: I wrote it down. I still have those two pieces
Speaker 3: of paper, and he used paper moons and the reasons
Speaker 3: why he shot the framing and why he shot this
Speaker 3: way and that way, in various things to teach me
Speaker 3: the basics of filmmaking.
Speaker 2: Well, it was all about the details. And whoever said
Speaker 2: the devil is in the details is dead wrong. That's
Speaker 2: where God is. God is in the details, as far
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. And I too, was attracted to radio
Speaker 2: because of the storytelling aspect of it. I listened to
Speaker 2: radio drama and there was an old one on CBS
Speaker 2: back in the day. It was a mystery theater. They
Speaker 2: ran late at night on the CBS radio network, and
Speaker 2: I was about five listening to that, and my imagination
Speaker 2: was inspired. Later when I started reading it started helping
Speaker 2: me become a better reader, to try to picture it
Speaker 2: like I was presenting a radio show. So again, I
Speaker 2: think it all comes down to those details, and I
Speaker 2: look forward to the details in Sleep No More Director's
Speaker 2: cut out Now, I thank you for joining us, Antonio Bandanovich,
Speaker 2: thank you so.
Speaker 3: Much for having me. I really enjoyed speaking with you.
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