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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen? I think what?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another Headless's magical mail bag. I got my

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<v Speaker 1>partner Nick with me tonight. Nick, go ahead and say Hi, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what is going on? Yeah? Uh got uh? Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any of the stickers in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I promote the stick is to send them. I got

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<v Speaker 2>free stickers. The bitch on the seashell you know the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I got free stick as if people want yo,

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<v Speaker 2>he went to York next time. Since you sent in

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, fucked on a bunch of emails just recently,

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<v Speaker 2>send your I know I've sent you stickers before. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>actually send me your information. I'll send you out more.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we got we got free stickers for people

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<v Speaker 2>who want to send uh send stories in. We gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of events. Uh yeah, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>check those out. We got a couple of them coming

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<v Speaker 2>up October fourth. We're gonna be in Franklin, North Carolina. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>October eighteenth, Charlie's by Yond Belief at Fort Myers in

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<v Speaker 2>Florida at a Freemasonic Lodge booth number thirty three. What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to grab it, especially when he gave you

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<v Speaker 2>the choice choice for booths. But yo, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, Even strategically, if you were to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the map before you walk into the room that

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<v Speaker 2>has all the booths, one is against the wall and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three is across from it, so they actually will

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<v Speaker 2>see my booth before like one of the first ones

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<v Speaker 2>is they're walking in. So strategically I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>this works. So all right, yeah we got three huh is.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I look directly behind you, and they'll see exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna be at because you've got that big mural.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah hell yeah, yeah they'll

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<v Speaker 2>see that. Yeah, there you go. You'll see that where

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<v Speaker 2>we're at. But yeah, yeah, we got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>other places. I'm gonna they're listed in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be promoting them more as we get closer to

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<v Speaker 2>them specifically. But yeah, we got one coming up October

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<v Speaker 2>fourth in Franklin, North Carolina, Me and Tyrone. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some other rejects might be there, who the fuck knows,

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<v Speaker 2>but come down. It'll be cheap. And yeah, so even

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<v Speaker 2>if the speakers suck. You still got to kick it

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<v Speaker 2>with us for like ten or fifteen bucks for the

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<v Speaker 2>whole day, you know, or if you don't like us,

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<v Speaker 2>you can come down and talk shit for ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen milers. So there you go. Oh, we got T shirts,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got T shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have T shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well I'll be totally honest with you if

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<v Speaker 2>you want the T shirts, but you're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to make one of the events, come down to. The

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<v Speaker 2>event will be cheaper because there's no shipping involved. But

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<v Speaker 2>if we want T shirts, we got T shirts at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five dollars a piece shipped. We got the Seashell Chick,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got the Silent Rainbow with the skull and

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<v Speaker 2>the cross arms and all that shit. So yeah, come

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<v Speaker 2>check it out. So it should be fun try it.

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<v Speaker 2>Headless is going to try to get us some of

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<v Speaker 2>his art too, boy, I forgot all about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to send this to you, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>my painting here that you can buy if you email me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can also do trades, but I got to send

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of these to you there, Nick, so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can bring these out. That would be interesting. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this one and I got as this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to print, if you like my paintings,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and email me and we will figure something

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<v Speaker 1>else out. So that is going to be at Headless

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<v Speaker 1>Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and we'll see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we might be able to set up a trade. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've got a nice story or if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to come on and you know we can work

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<v Speaker 1>something out, email me at the Headless Giant Podcast dot

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<v Speaker 1>cop we can get these beauty's out to you then,

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<v Speaker 1>nice quality card stock, really hardy. So do you tail me?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you take green buds?

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<v Speaker 1>If you live in a state that has flavored vapes?

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<v Speaker 1>Still we could work something out. Yeah, because they just

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<v Speaker 1>banned them in Wisconsin. I should see what.

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<v Speaker 2>They do with that smoth Carolina. I wonder if it

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<v Speaker 2>is like that here. I have to look that up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna send a bunch of out to Nick

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll go to the events and yes, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be at the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna be awesome. Uh, let's see Nick. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you have your symbol ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I think I do so, yes, yes, I got

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta pull it up all right, that's really find

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because you know, go by a couple of different names. Crowley,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is even like reused it, rebranded it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing it down below?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Let me try? Oh you know what, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I never you know what, I never put it as

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<v Speaker 2>a chef's screen. Fuck my bad. I just pulled up

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<v Speaker 2>the pulled out. There we go. All right, apologize, apologize

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<v Speaker 2>with us? All right, So here we go. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a rare Greco Egyptian sig. You'll uh, I probably screwed

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<v Speaker 2>this up Chernubis or Nubis c h n O U

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<v Speaker 2>b I s hum. It's an antique amulet. You'll see

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<v Speaker 2>a coiled serpent with a lion's head crowned by six

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<v Speaker 2>or seven sun rays. Many pieces also carry a compact

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<v Speaker 2>which I'll show it later where it's like on the

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<v Speaker 2>reverse side. It's kind of like a smaller condensed version.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you don't have us big enough piece

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<v Speaker 2>or wasn't that elaborate where it has three S shaped

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<v Speaker 2>strokes over a horizontal line, and that is known by

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<v Speaker 2>curators as the line of Shunoubis. Shnubus appears on Greco

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<v Speaker 2>Roman magical gemstones, often green Jasper or Carnelian from about

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<v Speaker 2>the second to third century CE, in areas stretching across

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Egypt and the Eastern Mediterranean. Museums. Again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>coming from museums all dated examples from this period second

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<v Speaker 2>to third century Carnelian at the Met and there's multiple

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<v Speaker 2>late Roman pieces at the British Museum. A learned ancient

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<v Speaker 2>tradition was attributed to the legendary astrologer and king and

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<v Speaker 2>the Chespos, and he even prescribes the engraving as a

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<v Speaker 2>radiant serpent on green jasper for stomach and esophagal protection.

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<v Speaker 2>So he would prescribe, like you know, this schedule for

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<v Speaker 2>that where it's been found and seen. Archaeology has turned

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<v Speaker 2>up Snubis gems and related pieces from Egypt to a

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<v Speaker 2>event and further uh a published amult from Deltaur in

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<v Speaker 2>Israel puts it in this syria, the Cero Palestinian record.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also museum collections in London, Cabridge, Boston, Budapest and

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<v Speaker 2>and Arbor. What it meant, you know, anciently scholars reach

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<v Speaker 2>Nubis or however you say his name, as a syncretic

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<v Speaker 2>like solar hearing, healing power, the lion solar force fused

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<v Speaker 2>with the serpent, which is was looked at as protective

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<v Speaker 2>or and Agatha diamond. If I'm saying that right, the

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<v Speaker 2>name itself likely influenced the Egyptian creator. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>they think that it influenced the Egyptian creator god um

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<v Speaker 2>k h n u M the imagery. The imagery is

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<v Speaker 2>frequently ringed by stars and crescents and paired with the

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<v Speaker 2>healing deities sometimes you know headless as boys over here

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<v Speaker 2>as Scluppius and Hygia, underlying medical protection and function. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the inscriptions often carry medical names and variants of junos. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it's written, and again what people did with it was

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<v Speaker 2>ancient writers and that and exhibitions notes explained that these

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<v Speaker 2>were worn on the body, ideally near the stomach. There's

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<v Speaker 2>even something else I did a few weeks ago. They

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<v Speaker 2>were putting stuff on the stomach and it was set

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<v Speaker 2>in rings of lockets. Many pieces explicitly target stomach and

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<v Speaker 2>sock sophagus pains. Some amulets even spell this out with

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<v Speaker 2>digestive formulas and palodromic spells around the image. That's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to do it in palodrome and again, sigils a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times would be green jasper as a classic, but

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<v Speaker 2>Carnelian rock, crystal or hematite sometimes and it would be

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<v Speaker 2>carved into that again a line or the serpent with

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<v Speaker 2>six or seven rays, often a star and a crescent

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<v Speaker 2>in the field. And and I will show this picture.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Sometimes it looked like one look like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the three s's above the line, well look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh yeah, that's that's all I got on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really interesting. So stomach and esophagus, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looks like an esophagus as well. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back to the other one, if you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that tube, yeah, the esophagus coming out to the mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see the stomach as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Small intestines, bigger loop in a small loop.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So the medical applications are interesting to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of medical magic was completely lost by the

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<v Speaker 1>first century, and so these ambulets would be prescribed by

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor. Right, that's kind of a different way of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing medicine if you think about it. Here you go

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<v Speaker 1>just wear this ambulant and it's going to heal your

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<v Speaker 1>your stomach and your esophageal problems. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in my work, I won't knock until I

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<v Speaker 1>try it, you know. But that's an interesting that's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting theory of how to do magic and what it's

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<v Speaker 1>related to. But you see the figure eight down below,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's very reminiscent of the Satanic Cross. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Satanic Cross is like the two and then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the figure eight.

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<v Speaker 2>At the bottom. It is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, the Chanubis comes up over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. People are even having sightings of this creature today,

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<v Speaker 1>like coming through their ceiling and stuff like this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually very common. So yeah, and it's associated with the

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<v Speaker 1>axis as well. It's funny that they didn't mention that

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<v Speaker 1>in the breakdown there. You know, it's it's the lion

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<v Speaker 1>and the snake is sort of like that Braxis symbol

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and then you add the the rooster symbolism

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and you've got the snakes for the tails.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Ericthonium. So Ericthonius was the first king of Athens,

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<v Speaker 1>right first king of Athens, and he had snakes tails

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<v Speaker 1>for legs. And it was a weird combination of Athena

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<v Speaker 1>and Hyphestus that created Ericthonius and Athena just said I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to take care of this weird little creature and

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<v Speaker 1>then raised it to be the first king of Athens.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Athena was a lot like the spiritus loci for Athens,

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<v Speaker 1>like Athena Athens, that's sort of her territory, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to the founding mythology of Athens. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you've kind of got this Ericthonian thing going on with

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<v Speaker 1>these serpent legs. And again, the lion is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the king, so it's the king and the serpent

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<v Speaker 1>legs even repeated into ancient Greek mythology. So I love

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<v Speaker 1>that there's just so many applications and people don't even

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<v Speaker 1>see how many there are.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, I thought it was because like again,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've seen it called so many different names before,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just a different way of looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if I would have looked up at Practis,

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<v Speaker 2>I might have gotten a different story. Right, all right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to move on to the oak oak.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what I'm brand. I got oak leaves, oak,

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<v Speaker 1>clusters of acorns. The oak tree has been sacred to

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<v Speaker 1>numerous deities across the various European mythologies. In ancient Greece,

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<v Speaker 1>it was sacred tree of Zeus, the king of the gods,

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<v Speaker 1>tree of Daghda, one of their highest gods, and the Druids,

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<v Speaker 1>who are often priests and philosophers, considered the oak a

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<v Speaker 1>symbol of their connection to the divine, with the word

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<v Speaker 1>druid possibly deriving from a celt term meaning however, knowhere

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<v Speaker 1>of the oak tree. In Norse mythology, the oak was

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<v Speaker 1>sacred to Thor, the god of thunder and war, reflecting

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<v Speaker 1>the oak was linked to Penn, the thunder god, and

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<v Speaker 1>But again, it's like this thunder over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>having to do with the oak, having to do with majesty,

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<v Speaker 1>having to do it like the head god. This widespread

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<v Speaker 1>as connecting the underworld to the living world and the heavens.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see oak tree clusters in the army still

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<v Speaker 1>they have, you know, oak tree as one of the

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<v Speaker 1>symbols that are common to the ribbons, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you've got oak tree clusters for different I believe it's units.

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<v Speaker 1>So the unit patches will have oak tree clusters and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else very much associated with class regalia. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>it and everything else, but they're still using the symbol,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, and all of this military history,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got so many different symbols that go straight back

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<v Speaker 1>to ancient Greece, one of which being the Phrygian cap.

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<v Speaker 1>So Phrygia was supposed to be over in Thrace and

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<v Speaker 1>and they're still using the cap on the seal of

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<v Speaker 1>being used today by the Americans in their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>military pursuits go straight back to Thrace, like five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years of history. So that's really interesting to be what

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<v Speaker 2>Nick, Yeah, Uh, honestly, I didn't know much about that

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing with the oaks, But I was actually thinking

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<v Speaker 2>right now, how many signs I'm actually was running it

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<v Speaker 2>through chutch Gipt, how many maps and like signs. I

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<v Speaker 2>have noticed that maps flags always have like these old

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fucking these oak leaves on them like that

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<v Speaker 2>is common actually, and I never really thought of it,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want to get to know the the

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<v Speaker 1>highest gods in these pantheons, get to know the oak tree,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's somehow an association or a communication that goes

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<v Speaker 1>on between the plants, animals, and symbols sacred to these

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<v Speaker 1>gods and the gods themselves. So being around them, looking

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<v Speaker 1>for signs using your intuition, trying to talk with the tree,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get in touch with that, it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>way of going about a better understanding of these deeper

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<v Speaker 1>esoteric meanings. And so you know that's what the druids

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<v Speaker 1>would do, right, So the high priests would hang out

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<v Speaker 1>around these oak trees. You've also got the parasite that

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<v Speaker 1>grows up in these trees being sacred as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Oh, help me out, what's it called. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a little white berries and it's a little plant

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<v Speaker 1>that you hang from the ceilings and then he kiss

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<v Speaker 1>under it. Miss.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was even thinking too with the acorns.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very much reminds me a lot of the eyeball.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course I'm going to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the eyeball, but you know the way it's like it

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<v Speaker 2>even has a little bump on the end and at

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<v Speaker 2>that back, I mean, your optic nerve does bend back

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<v Speaker 2>like that and goes into your head. So I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's very much I mean your eyeball. Really, it is

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and it would make sense that that's associated with

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<v Speaker 1>one of the highest gods, especially since perception and these

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<v Speaker 1>gods are very much linked together. Yeah, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I got an email. I got several emails from Winter York,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to have to do it different sections

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<v Speaker 1>because there are no So this is from Winter high

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<v Speaker 1>Head Listen, Hi, Nick, I finally found the time to

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<v Speaker 1>write again. Considering my busy schedule. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>make this too long, so I'll try and put a

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<v Speaker 1>break in spots. As it is, this is about a

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<v Speaker 1>journey I didn't want to take, but I found myself

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and maybe I can help someone navigate. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go, let's see if they find themselves on the

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<v Speaker 1>same path and lost all start out with what I

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<v Speaker 1>see now as a foreshadowing of things to come. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was about four or five years old, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a number of strange dreams that a child shouldn't have had,

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<v Speaker 1>and a complete inability to comprehend the symbology of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember my age as I explained this dream. One I

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<v Speaker 1>went out into the woods, into the backyard of New

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<v Speaker 1>Hampshire where I grew up, and found a strange stick.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought it in the house and it could write

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<v Speaker 1>on the walls in wet ash and couldn't run out.

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<v Speaker 1>I started writing strange symbols on the walls, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the dream jumped forward to me standing back, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the geometric and circular symbols in rows from the floor

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<v Speaker 1>to the ceiling. At that moment, my grandmother walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you just opened something you can't close, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you have to burn the house down. That I

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<v Speaker 1>got the feeling in my chest that was like pure terror,

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<v Speaker 1>that hard pang of absolute fear. Let me see. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at her and I asked in a terrified voice

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew I had done something awful, and asked,

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<v Speaker 1>but can we rebuild it? Next thing in this dream,

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<v Speaker 1>I was out in the living room and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting and sobbing in front of the unlit fireplace,

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<v Speaker 1>which also had an enormous terra cotta owl next to it,

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<v Speaker 1>which may or may not mean anything right Minerva. She

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<v Speaker 1>was crying over a boyfriend or a breakup, but she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to see me, as she didn't respond to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I woke up studying this stuff. Now the stick

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<v Speaker 1>would represent the earth, air, fire, and water. The symbols

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<v Speaker 1>I learned were all chemical because I saw al chemical

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<v Speaker 1>symbols as I got older and realized that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote on the wall in my dream, But it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make much sense to me. I wasn't studying the occult

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. The fact that the message in the

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<v Speaker 1>dream of opening something that I can't close, burning the

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<v Speaker 1>house down to rebuild now that the purification through fire, transformation, rebuilding,

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<v Speaker 1>and the part about my mom crying in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the fireplace, not seeing me crying over men. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was raised by grandparents because she was out partying and

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<v Speaker 1>running through boyfriends. What I didn't know until last year

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<v Speaker 1>was before she had me, she was gang ared in

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<v Speaker 1>a van in the most horrific way and had an

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<v Speaker 1>abortion from it. And she had multiple abortions after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and she admitted she wanted to punish every man she

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<v Speaker 1>could because of what happened to her. The only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm alive is my dad didn't believe in abortion. But

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't see me in the dream, much like the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>The fireplace was unlit and cold in that dream. No spark,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also next to the giant terra Cotta owl.

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<v Speaker 1>Very lilith energy. In my opinion, Wow, that mom sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you know she has the experience and then turns

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<v Speaker 1>into kind of a lit Lithian energy. The only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I say that the owl showed up later in life

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<v Speaker 1>is right before shit hit the fan did not dream

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<v Speaker 1>the next day. Strange and significant experience I had was

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<v Speaker 1>I had sleep paralysis. One was me waking up with

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<v Speaker 1>a weight so heavy on my chest I couldn't breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy that looked like he was made of

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<v Speaker 1>green plasma that looked exactly like the logo of the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Giant Frozen Peas. It was three feet tall and

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<v Speaker 1>stopping on my chest. I thought I was going to die.

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't hear the sound of the TV and

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<v Speaker 1>my grandparents talking to each other from the den, and

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<v Speaker 1>could see the light in the hallway, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>make out the sound. It was terrifying. I must have

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<v Speaker 1>passed out after that, as I am not dead loll

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wondering if the Green Man energy or

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<v Speaker 1>pan or just a strange coincidence third not dream. I

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<v Speaker 1>would get scared sleeping alone in my room and would

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<v Speaker 1>get out of bed in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 1>and go to my grandparents room and climb between them

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. One night, I woke up and was off

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<v Speaker 1>the bed, not on the side, but literally above the

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<v Speaker 1>bed levitated. I couldn't move, scream or anything, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could hear my grandpa snoring and my Grandma's breathing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was frozen about three to four feet off the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so vivid to me that I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas I was wearing because I could see the little

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<v Speaker 1>pastel purple from an animal print on my chest. As

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<v Speaker 1>I was terrified, a female vote voice spoke. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see what was speaking at it was telepathic. It said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be scared, we aren't going to hurt you. There

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<v Speaker 1>was also a male presence, but it felt more distant.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I remember from that night. But the next

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<v Speaker 1>day I was playing in the living room by myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I forgot what happened the prior night.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I looked up at my grandparents' old rotary

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<v Speaker 1>phone and suddenly remembered. And a strange thing was that

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<v Speaker 1>it was like my brain had a script that kicked in.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't explain it well. So I'm looking up at

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<v Speaker 1>the rotary phone and it triggered a memory to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and in my mind, as if on a track, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put their thought. They told me that they were angels.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they are angels, why would I be scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking up at this phone, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been older than five at this point, possibly six,

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<v Speaker 1>but no older than that. After this, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden fear of running out of resources. I was terrified

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<v Speaker 1>of wasting water, hearing an engine run and not being

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<v Speaker 1>used to not being used drove me nuts, and the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest change was the fear of insects and the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of buzzing driving me to terror. Now the phone is

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<v Speaker 1>a symbol of communication the thing, while the buzzing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to figure out. I know when I started

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<v Speaker 1>actively meditating a few years ago, I started hearing buzzing sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>as if bees were flying around me. I'm wondering that

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<v Speaker 1>if this had to do with that state of consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>I was accidentally dropping into mind you Nothing this extreme

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<v Speaker 1>happened again into my early thirties. I tried to tell

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<v Speaker 1>my grandparents and my mom, and I was ignored, so

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<v Speaker 1>I brushed it aside for decades. What I think happened,

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<v Speaker 1>My best guess is that when I would cry for

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, who wasn't around, cry for a normal family,

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<v Speaker 1>something answered. I remembered trying to talk to God and

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<v Speaker 1>ask if my parents would be together and be with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing answered. So I asked for anything to help me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what that would even mean. Something did. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I played under my great grandma's old oak tree

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<v Speaker 1>among the mushrooms too much. I don't know. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to send a second part in the email tomorrow as

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<v Speaker 1>this took longer to write than I thought. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, Winter and I hit the oak Tree without

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<v Speaker 1>ever even reading your email. Sure, just saying what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, fucking weird dream the buzzy? Yeah, the buzzy. I

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<v Speaker 2>find that weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear a lot of reports of astral projection. They

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<v Speaker 1>get this strong sense of buzzing in their head before

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<v Speaker 1>they leave the body, right, so you know, they have

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<v Speaker 1>this physical projection experience kind of like hovering over the

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<v Speaker 1>bed and she can't move because she might be probably

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<v Speaker 1>still attached to her body somehow. It's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>move around when you're still kind of attached to your body,

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<v Speaker 1>and the buzzing sensation would definitely go along with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the voices too. I mean, if you're crying out

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<v Speaker 1>for something to come and talk to you, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>a child, something's going to be coming out to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, right, so sometimes even wondering like if you

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<v Speaker 2>even created yourself asking for it, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know it's it's you know, for a child

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<v Speaker 1>to feel that buzzing and then you know, go outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the body and then make that association with the

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<v Speaker 1>telephone and with bugs, it could be a terrifying experience

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't fully remember. So going outside of the body,

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<v Speaker 1>having that buzzing sensation, not being able to move around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see why that would bring up that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of sensation with the bugs and everything. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting email. And we've got more from Winter York, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Yeah, we could use that. We use the

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<v Speaker 2>other one for next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, these are great. I mean they all sort

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<v Speaker 1>of meshed together. And the first one with the alchemical

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<v Speaker 1>symbols right that she's drawing on the inside of this

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<v Speaker 1>house and they're like, you're opening a portal that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't close. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>What do these.

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<v Speaker 1>Alchemical symbols have to do with a portal? And she

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about the purifying fire, which is also very alchemical. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and having that that strong association there, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of alchemists will talk about that with the purification

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<v Speaker 2>by fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Calcinatio. Maybe next time I'll pull out some of

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<v Speaker 1>the alchemy books and go over some of the symbols

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Would the easier that actually downloading pictures off

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<v Speaker 1>the internet and trying to use for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Show, right, Oh yo, at nine o'clock Robbie March. We

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<v Speaker 2>got go coming on tonight, so people still too, you

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<v Speaker 2>can jump over nine o'clock. We got Robbie Marks coming

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<v Speaker 2>on to cover Adonna's. Should be a few of us

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<v Speaker 2>there from the Rejects, so that should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be fun, right, And this is a continuation of some

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<v Speaker 1>of his other stuff. So if you're into his work

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<v Speaker 1>on Kyberle and addis a donnas Is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly why he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, yeah, absolutely, well, this has been good. We're

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<v Speaker 1>right at thirty minutes. Guys, share the show. Hit that

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<v Speaker 2>It's free sending stories and I'll send you some, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're interested in some of these prints, definitely send me

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<v Speaker 1>a message at the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and we can get these set up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I buying a website for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you start selling to even to make the money

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<v Speaker 2>back for the website.

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<v Speaker 1>That right, so much of a markup. So if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're interested in some of my artwork, just email

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<v Speaker 1>me and we'll set something up. So I'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>know how much it's going to be with shipping and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, or if we can make a trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, all right, real quick, what age was winter in

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<v Speaker 2>that email? I mean, in that dream? Did she mention?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these were about five to six years old, so

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<v Speaker 1>she had no idea that these were like deeper symbols

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<v Speaker 1>until much later.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, I just wonder. Oh yeah, okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, really formative time and in a person's life,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could see how these dreams would be very

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<v Speaker 1>important to the rest of her life. And she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think about it again until thirties, so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a disconnect there. So next time, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>send me your emails at the Headless Giant Podcast at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com and we will get those stories up

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<v Speaker 1>and the stickers and posters out to you. So check

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<v Speaker 1>that out. Thank you so much, and we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>again next time.
