Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen? I think what?
Speaker 1: Welcome to another Headless's magical mail bag. I got my
Speaker 1: partner Nick with me tonight. Nick, go ahead and say Hi, what.
Speaker 2: Is what is going on? Yeah? Uh got uh? Oh man,
Speaker 2: I don't have any of the stickers in front of me.
Speaker 2: I promote the stick is to send them. I got
Speaker 2: free stickers. The bitch on the seashell you know the deal.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I got free stick as if people want yo,
Speaker 2: he went to York next time. Since you sent in
Speaker 2: like you know, fucked on a bunch of emails just recently,
Speaker 2: send your I know I've sent you stickers before. I think,
Speaker 2: actually send me your information. I'll send you out more.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we got we got free stickers for people
Speaker 2: who want to send uh send stories in. We gotta
Speaker 2: have a bunch of events. Uh yeah, I want to
Speaker 2: check those out. We got a couple of them coming
Speaker 2: up October fourth. We're gonna be in Franklin, North Carolina. Uh.
Speaker 2: October eighteenth, Charlie's by Yond Belief at Fort Myers in
Speaker 2: Florida at a Freemasonic Lodge booth number thirty three. What's up?
Speaker 2: I had to grab it, especially when he gave you
Speaker 2: the choice choice for booths. But yo, you know what
Speaker 2: the thing is, Even strategically, if you were to look
Speaker 2: at the map before you walk into the room that
Speaker 2: has all the booths, one is against the wall and
Speaker 2: thirty three is across from it, so they actually will
Speaker 2: see my booth before like one of the first ones
Speaker 2: is they're walking in. So strategically I was like, oh
Speaker 2: this works. So all right, yeah we got three huh is.
Speaker 1: Look I look directly behind you, and they'll see exactly
Speaker 1: where you're gonna be at because you've got that big mural.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah hell yeah, yeah they'll
Speaker 2: see that. Yeah, there you go. You'll see that where
Speaker 2: we're at. But yeah, yeah, we got a bunch of
Speaker 2: other places. I'm gonna they're listed in the show notes.
Speaker 2: I'll be promoting them more as we get closer to
Speaker 2: them specifically. But yeah, we got one coming up October
Speaker 2: fourth in Franklin, North Carolina, Me and Tyrone. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe some other rejects might be there, who the fuck knows,
Speaker 2: but come down. It'll be cheap. And yeah, so even
Speaker 2: if the speakers suck. You still got to kick it
Speaker 2: with us for like ten or fifteen bucks for the
Speaker 2: whole day, you know, or if you don't like us,
Speaker 2: you can come down and talk shit for ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen milers. So there you go. Oh, we got T shirts,
Speaker 2: and we got T shirts.
Speaker 1: We'll have T shirts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll be totally honest with you if
Speaker 2: you want the T shirts, but you're gonna be able
Speaker 2: to make one of the events, come down to. The
Speaker 2: event will be cheaper because there's no shipping involved. But
Speaker 2: if we want T shirts, we got T shirts at
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars a piece shipped. We got the Seashell Chick,
Speaker 2: and we got the Silent Rainbow with the skull and
Speaker 2: the cross arms and all that shit. So yeah, come
Speaker 2: check it out. So it should be fun try it.
Speaker 2: Headless is going to try to get us some of
Speaker 2: his art too, boy, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 1: I got to send this to you, so I have
Speaker 1: my painting here that you can buy if you email me.
Speaker 1: I can also do trades, but I got to send
Speaker 1: a bunch of these to you there, Nick, so that
Speaker 1: you can bring these out. That would be interesting. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I got this one and I got as this one.
Speaker 1: So if you want to print, if you like my paintings,
Speaker 1: go ahead and email me and we will figure something
Speaker 1: else out. So that is going to be at Headless
Speaker 1: Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: we might be able to set up a trade. Right,
Speaker 1: So if you've got a nice story or if you
Speaker 1: want to come on and you know we can work
Speaker 1: something out, email me at the Headless Giant Podcast dot
Speaker 1: cop we can get these beauty's out to you then,
Speaker 1: nice quality card stock, really hardy. So do you tail me?
Speaker 2: Do you take green buds?
Speaker 1: If you live in a state that has flavored vapes?
Speaker 1: Still we could work something out. Yeah, because they just
Speaker 1: banned them in Wisconsin. I should see what.
Speaker 2: They do with that smoth Carolina. I wonder if it
Speaker 2: is like that here. I have to look that up.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna send a bunch of out to Nick
Speaker 1: and you'll go to the events and yes, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be at the table.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be awesome. Uh, let's see Nick. Do
Speaker 1: you do you have your symbol ready?
Speaker 2: Yes? I think I do so, yes, yes, I got
Speaker 2: you gotta pull it up all right, that's really find
Speaker 2: interesting because you know, go by a couple of different names. Crowley,
Speaker 2: I think is even like reused it, rebranded it or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it down below?
Speaker 2: Is that? Let me try? Oh you know what, maybe
Speaker 2: I never you know what, I never put it as
Speaker 2: a chef's screen. Fuck my bad. I just pulled up
Speaker 2: the pulled out. There we go. All right, apologize, apologize
Speaker 2: with us? All right, So here we go. This is
Speaker 2: a rare Greco Egyptian sig. You'll uh, I probably screwed
Speaker 2: this up Chernubis or Nubis c h n O U
Speaker 2: b I s hum. It's an antique amulet. You'll see
Speaker 2: a coiled serpent with a lion's head crowned by six
Speaker 2: or seven sun rays. Many pieces also carry a compact
Speaker 2: which I'll show it later where it's like on the
Speaker 2: reverse side. It's kind of like a smaller condensed version.
Speaker 2: I guess if you don't have us big enough piece
Speaker 2: or wasn't that elaborate where it has three S shaped
Speaker 2: strokes over a horizontal line, and that is known by
Speaker 2: curators as the line of Shunoubis. Shnubus appears on Greco
Speaker 2: Roman magical gemstones, often green Jasper or Carnelian from about
Speaker 2: the second to third century CE, in areas stretching across
Speaker 2: Roman Egypt and the Eastern Mediterranean. Museums. Again, this is
Speaker 2: coming from museums all dated examples from this period second
Speaker 2: to third century Carnelian at the Met and there's multiple
Speaker 2: late Roman pieces at the British Museum. A learned ancient
Speaker 2: tradition was attributed to the legendary astrologer and king and
Speaker 2: the Chespos, and he even prescribes the engraving as a
Speaker 2: radiant serpent on green jasper for stomach and esophagal protection.
Speaker 2: So he would prescribe, like you know, this schedule for
Speaker 2: that where it's been found and seen. Archaeology has turned
Speaker 2: up Snubis gems and related pieces from Egypt to a
Speaker 2: event and further uh a published amult from Deltaur in
Speaker 2: Israel puts it in this syria, the Cero Palestinian record.
Speaker 2: There's also museum collections in London, Cabridge, Boston, Budapest and
Speaker 2: and Arbor. What it meant, you know, anciently scholars reach
Speaker 2: Nubis or however you say his name, as a syncretic
Speaker 2: like solar hearing, healing power, the lion solar force fused
Speaker 2: with the serpent, which is was looked at as protective
Speaker 2: or and Agatha diamond. If I'm saying that right, the
Speaker 2: name itself likely influenced the Egyptian creator. This is what
Speaker 2: they think that it influenced the Egyptian creator god um
Speaker 2: k h n u M the imagery. The imagery is
Speaker 2: frequently ringed by stars and crescents and paired with the
Speaker 2: healing deities sometimes you know headless as boys over here
Speaker 2: as Scluppius and Hygia, underlying medical protection and function. Some
Speaker 2: of the inscriptions often carry medical names and variants of junos. However,
Speaker 2: it's written, and again what people did with it was
Speaker 2: ancient writers and that and exhibitions notes explained that these
Speaker 2: were worn on the body, ideally near the stomach. There's
Speaker 2: even something else I did a few weeks ago. They
Speaker 2: were putting stuff on the stomach and it was set
Speaker 2: in rings of lockets. Many pieces explicitly target stomach and
Speaker 2: sock sophagus pains. Some amulets even spell this out with
Speaker 2: digestive formulas and palodromic spells around the image. That's interesting
Speaker 2: to do it in palodrome and again, sigils a lot
Speaker 2: of times would be green jasper as a classic, but
Speaker 2: Carnelian rock, crystal or hematite sometimes and it would be
Speaker 2: carved into that again a line or the serpent with
Speaker 2: six or seven rays, often a star and a crescent
Speaker 2: in the field. And and I will show this picture.
Speaker 2: This is what Sometimes it looked like one look like this.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the three s's above the line, well look like that.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, that's that's all I got on that one.
Speaker 1: That is really interesting. So stomach and esophagus, and it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like an esophagus as well. Right, So
Speaker 1: if you go back to the other one, if you
Speaker 1: imagine that tube, yeah, the esophagus coming out to the mouth,
Speaker 1: and you see the stomach as well.
Speaker 2: Small intestines, bigger loop in a small loop.
Speaker 1: Right, So the medical applications are interesting to me. So
Speaker 1: a lot of medical magic was completely lost by the
Speaker 1: first century, and so these ambulets would be prescribed by
Speaker 1: a doctor. Right, that's kind of a different way of
Speaker 1: seeing medicine if you think about it. Here you go
Speaker 1: just wear this ambulant and it's going to heal your
Speaker 1: your stomach and your esophageal problems. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, in my work, I won't knock until I
Speaker 1: try it, you know. But that's an interesting that's an
Speaker 1: interesting theory of how to do magic and what it's
Speaker 1: related to. But you see the figure eight down below,
Speaker 1: I think that's very reminiscent of the Satanic Cross. So
Speaker 1: the Satanic Cross is like the two and then you've
Speaker 1: got the figure eight.
Speaker 2: At the bottom. It is interesting.
Speaker 1: But man, the Chanubis comes up over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. People are even having sightings of this creature today,
Speaker 1: like coming through their ceiling and stuff like this is
Speaker 1: actually very common. So yeah, and it's associated with the
Speaker 1: axis as well. It's funny that they didn't mention that
Speaker 1: in the breakdown there. You know, it's it's the lion
Speaker 1: and the snake is sort of like that Braxis symbol
Speaker 1: as well, and then you add the the rooster symbolism
Speaker 1: as well, and you've got the snakes for the tails.
Speaker 1: It's Ericthonium. So Ericthonius was the first king of Athens,
Speaker 1: right first king of Athens, and he had snakes tails
Speaker 1: for legs. And it was a weird combination of Athena
Speaker 1: and Hyphestus that created Ericthonius and Athena just said I'm
Speaker 1: going to take care of this weird little creature and
Speaker 1: then raised it to be the first king of Athens.
Speaker 1: Because Athena was a lot like the spiritus loci for Athens,
Speaker 1: like Athena Athens, that's sort of her territory, and it
Speaker 1: goes back to the founding mythology of Athens. And so
Speaker 1: you've kind of got this Ericthonian thing going on with
Speaker 1: these serpent legs. And again, the lion is kind of
Speaker 1: like the king, so it's the king and the serpent
Speaker 1: legs even repeated into ancient Greek mythology. So I love
Speaker 1: that there's just so many applications and people don't even
Speaker 1: see how many there are.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I thought it was because like again,
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen it called so many different names before,
Speaker 2: and it was just a different way of looking at it.
Speaker 2: You know, if I would have looked up at Practis,
Speaker 2: I might have gotten a different story. Right, all right, right,
Speaker 2: I want to move on to the oak oak.
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm brand. I got oak leaves, oak,
Speaker 1: clusters of acorns. The oak tree has been sacred to
Speaker 1: numerous deities across the various European mythologies. In ancient Greece,
Speaker 1: it was sacred tree of Zeus, the king of the gods,
Speaker 1: and in ancient Rome it was associated with Jupiter, the
Speaker 1: supreme deity. The Celts revered the oak as the holy
Speaker 1: tree of Daghda, one of their highest gods, and the Druids,
Speaker 1: who are often priests and philosophers, considered the oak a
Speaker 1: symbol of their connection to the divine, with the word
Speaker 1: druid possibly deriving from a celt term meaning however, knowhere
Speaker 1: of the oak tree. In Norse mythology, the oak was
Speaker 1: sacred to Thor, the god of thunder and war, reflecting
Speaker 1: its association with the power and lightning. Summarily, in Slavic mythology,
Speaker 1: the oak was linked to Penn, the thunder god, and
Speaker 1: in Baltic traditions it was considered the sacred tree of
Speaker 1: the thunder god, who used thunder to combat evil spirits.
Speaker 1: But again, it's like this thunder over and over again,
Speaker 1: having to do with the oak, having to do with majesty,
Speaker 1: having to do it like the head god. This widespread
Speaker 1: reverence for the oak is a divine symbol is a
Speaker 1: further underscored by its association with the world tree in
Speaker 1: some traditions, where the deep roots and towering branches seen
Speaker 1: as connecting the underworld to the living world and the heavens.
Speaker 1: And you see oak tree clusters in the army still
Speaker 1: they have, you know, oak tree as one of the
Speaker 1: symbols that are common to the ribbons, right, and so
Speaker 1: you've got oak tree clusters for different I believe it's units.
Speaker 1: So the unit patches will have oak tree clusters and
Speaker 1: everything else very much associated with class regalia. So you've
Speaker 1: got Class A bobbles that have the oak leaf on
Speaker 1: it and everything else, but they're still using the symbol,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and all of this military history,
Speaker 1: you've got so many different symbols that go straight back
Speaker 1: to ancient Greece, one of which being the Phrygian cap.
Speaker 1: So Phrygia was supposed to be over in Thrace and
Speaker 1: and Thrace is supposed to be even older than the Egyptians,
Speaker 1: and they're still using the cap on the seal of
Speaker 1: the army. So all of these symbols that we see
Speaker 1: being used today by the Americans in their you know,
Speaker 1: military pursuits go straight back to Thrace, like five thousand
Speaker 1: years of history. So that's really interesting to be what
Speaker 1: do you think.
Speaker 2: Nick, Yeah, Uh, honestly, I didn't know much about that
Speaker 2: whole thing with the oaks, But I was actually thinking
Speaker 2: right now, how many signs I'm actually was running it
Speaker 2: through chutch Gipt, how many maps and like signs. I
Speaker 2: have noticed that maps flags always have like these old
Speaker 2: you know, fucking these oak leaves on them like that
Speaker 2: is common actually, and I never really thought of it,
Speaker 2: like I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, if you want to get to know the the
Speaker 1: highest gods in these pantheons, get to know the oak tree,
Speaker 1: because there's somehow an association or a communication that goes
Speaker 1: on between the plants, animals, and symbols sacred to these
Speaker 1: gods and the gods themselves. So being around them, looking
Speaker 1: for signs using your intuition, trying to talk with the tree,
Speaker 1: trying to get in touch with that, it's a good
Speaker 1: way of going about a better understanding of these deeper
Speaker 1: esoteric meanings. And so you know that's what the druids
Speaker 1: would do, right, So the high priests would hang out
Speaker 1: around these oak trees. You've also got the parasite that
Speaker 1: grows up in these trees being sacred as well. So
Speaker 1: that's the Oh, help me out, what's it called. It's
Speaker 1: got a little white berries and it's a little plant
Speaker 1: that you hang from the ceilings and then he kiss
Speaker 1: under it. Miss.
Speaker 2: You know, I was even thinking too with the acorns.
Speaker 2: It's very much reminds me a lot of the eyeball.
Speaker 2: I mean, of course I'm going to go back to
Speaker 2: the eyeball, but you know the way it's like it
Speaker 2: even has a little bump on the end and at
Speaker 2: that back, I mean, your optic nerve does bend back
Speaker 2: like that and goes into your head. So I mean
Speaker 2: it's very much I mean your eyeball. Really, it is
Speaker 2: very much like an ache one in sense.
Speaker 1: Right, and it would make sense that that's associated with
Speaker 1: one of the highest gods, especially since perception and these
Speaker 1: gods are very much linked together. Yeah, all right, So
Speaker 1: I got an email. I got several emails from Winter York,
Speaker 1: and we're going to have to do it different sections
Speaker 1: because there are no So this is from Winter high
Speaker 1: Head Listen, Hi, Nick, I finally found the time to
Speaker 1: write again. Considering my busy schedule. I don't want to
Speaker 1: make this too long, so I'll try and put a
Speaker 1: break in spots. As it is, this is about a
Speaker 1: journey I didn't want to take, but I found myself
Speaker 1: on it, and maybe I can help someone navigate. There
Speaker 1: we go, let's see if they find themselves on the
Speaker 1: same path and lost all start out with what I
Speaker 1: see now as a foreshadowing of things to come. When
Speaker 1: I was about four or five years old, I had
Speaker 1: a number of strange dreams that a child shouldn't have had,
Speaker 1: and a complete inability to comprehend the symbology of it.
Speaker 1: Remember my age as I explained this dream. One I
Speaker 1: went out into the woods, into the backyard of New
Speaker 1: Hampshire where I grew up, and found a strange stick.
Speaker 1: I brought it in the house and it could write
Speaker 1: on the walls in wet ash and couldn't run out.
Speaker 1: I started writing strange symbols on the walls, and then
Speaker 1: the dream jumped forward to me standing back, looking at
Speaker 1: the geometric and circular symbols in rows from the floor
Speaker 1: to the ceiling. At that moment, my grandmother walked in
Speaker 1: and said, you just opened something you can't close, and
Speaker 1: now you have to burn the house down. That I
Speaker 1: got the feeling in my chest that was like pure terror,
Speaker 1: that hard pang of absolute fear. Let me see. I
Speaker 1: looked at her and I asked in a terrified voice
Speaker 1: because I knew I had done something awful, and asked,
Speaker 1: but can we rebuild it? Next thing in this dream,
Speaker 1: I was out in the living room and my mom
Speaker 1: was sitting and sobbing in front of the unlit fireplace,
Speaker 1: which also had an enormous terra cotta owl next to it,
Speaker 1: which may or may not mean anything right Minerva. She
Speaker 1: was crying over a boyfriend or a breakup, but she
Speaker 1: didn't seem to see me, as she didn't respond to me.
Speaker 1: Then I woke up studying this stuff. Now the stick
Speaker 1: would represent the earth, air, fire, and water. The symbols
Speaker 1: I learned were all chemical because I saw al chemical
Speaker 1: symbols as I got older and realized that's what I
Speaker 1: wrote on the wall in my dream, But it didn't
Speaker 1: make much sense to me. I wasn't studying the occult
Speaker 1: at that point. The fact that the message in the
Speaker 1: dream of opening something that I can't close, burning the
Speaker 1: house down to rebuild now that the purification through fire, transformation, rebuilding,
Speaker 1: and the part about my mom crying in front of
Speaker 1: the fireplace, not seeing me crying over men. Well, I
Speaker 1: was raised by grandparents because she was out partying and
Speaker 1: running through boyfriends. What I didn't know until last year
Speaker 1: was before she had me, she was gang ared in
Speaker 1: a van in the most horrific way and had an
Speaker 1: abortion from it. And she had multiple abortions after that,
Speaker 1: and she admitted she wanted to punish every man she
Speaker 1: could because of what happened to her. The only reason
Speaker 1: I'm alive is my dad didn't believe in abortion. But
Speaker 1: she couldn't see me in the dream, much like the reality.
Speaker 1: The fireplace was unlit and cold in that dream. No spark,
Speaker 1: which is also next to the giant terra Cotta owl.
Speaker 1: Very lilith energy. In my opinion, Wow, that mom sounds
Speaker 1: like you know she has the experience and then turns
Speaker 1: into kind of a lit Lithian energy. The only reason
Speaker 1: I say that the owl showed up later in life
Speaker 1: is right before shit hit the fan did not dream
Speaker 1: the next day. Strange and significant experience I had was
Speaker 1: I had sleep paralysis. One was me waking up with
Speaker 1: a weight so heavy on my chest I couldn't breathe,
Speaker 1: and a guy that looked like he was made of
Speaker 1: green plasma that looked exactly like the logo of the
Speaker 1: Green Giant Frozen Peas. It was three feet tall and
Speaker 1: stopping on my chest. I thought I was going to die.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't hear the sound of the TV and
Speaker 1: my grandparents talking to each other from the den, and
Speaker 1: could see the light in the hallway, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: make out the sound. It was terrifying. I must have
Speaker 1: passed out after that, as I am not dead loll
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if the Green Man energy or
Speaker 1: pan or just a strange coincidence third not dream. I
Speaker 1: would get scared sleeping alone in my room and would
Speaker 1: get out of bed in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: and go to my grandparents room and climb between them
Speaker 1: to sleep. One night, I woke up and was off
Speaker 1: the bed, not on the side, but literally above the
Speaker 1: bed levitated. I couldn't move, scream or anything, and I
Speaker 1: could hear my grandpa snoring and my Grandma's breathing, but
Speaker 1: I was frozen about three to four feet off the bed.
Speaker 1: This is so vivid to me that I remember the
Speaker 1: pajamas I was wearing because I could see the little
Speaker 1: pastel purple from an animal print on my chest. As
Speaker 1: I was terrified, a female vote voice spoke. I couldn't
Speaker 1: see what was speaking at it was telepathic. It said,
Speaker 1: don't be scared, we aren't going to hurt you. There
Speaker 1: was also a male presence, but it felt more distant.
Speaker 1: That's all I remember from that night. But the next
Speaker 1: day I was playing in the living room by myself,
Speaker 1: and it's like I forgot what happened the prior night.
Speaker 1: And then I looked up at my grandparents' old rotary
Speaker 1: phone and suddenly remembered. And a strange thing was that
Speaker 1: it was like my brain had a script that kicked in.
Speaker 1: I can't explain it well. So I'm looking up at
Speaker 1: the rotary phone and it triggered a memory to come back,
Speaker 1: and in my mind, as if on a track, didn't
Speaker 1: put their thought. They told me that they were angels.
Speaker 1: But if they are angels, why would I be scared.
Speaker 1: I was looking up at this phone, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: have been older than five at this point, possibly six,
Speaker 1: but no older than that. After this, I had a
Speaker 1: sudden fear of running out of resources. I was terrified
Speaker 1: of wasting water, hearing an engine run and not being
Speaker 1: used to not being used drove me nuts, and the
Speaker 1: biggest change was the fear of insects and the sound
Speaker 1: of buzzing driving me to terror. Now the phone is
Speaker 1: a symbol of communication the thing, while the buzzing I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out. I know when I started
Speaker 1: actively meditating a few years ago, I started hearing buzzing sounds,
Speaker 1: as if bees were flying around me. I'm wondering that
Speaker 1: if this had to do with that state of consciousness
Speaker 1: I was accidentally dropping into mind you Nothing this extreme
Speaker 1: happened again into my early thirties. I tried to tell
Speaker 1: my grandparents and my mom, and I was ignored, so
Speaker 1: I brushed it aside for decades. What I think happened,
Speaker 1: My best guess is that when I would cry for
Speaker 1: my mom, who wasn't around, cry for a normal family,
Speaker 1: something answered. I remembered trying to talk to God and
Speaker 1: ask if my parents would be together and be with them,
Speaker 1: and nothing answered. So I asked for anything to help me.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that would even mean. Something did. Apparently,
Speaker 1: maybe I played under my great grandma's old oak tree
Speaker 1: among the mushrooms too much. I don't know. I'm going
Speaker 1: to send a second part in the email tomorrow as
Speaker 1: this took longer to write than I thought. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Winter and I hit the oak Tree without
Speaker 1: ever even reading your email. Sure, just saying what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Right, fucking weird dream the buzzy? Yeah, the buzzy. I
Speaker 2: find that weird.
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of reports of astral projection. They
Speaker 1: get this strong sense of buzzing in their head before
Speaker 1: they leave the body, right, so you know, they have
Speaker 1: this physical projection experience kind of like hovering over the
Speaker 1: bed and she can't move because she might be probably
Speaker 1: still attached to her body somehow. It's really hard to
Speaker 1: move around when you're still kind of attached to your body,
Speaker 1: and the buzzing sensation would definitely go along with that,
Speaker 1: and the voices too. I mean, if you're crying out
Speaker 1: for something to come and talk to you, especially as
Speaker 1: a child, something's going to be coming out to talk
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right, so sometimes even wondering like if you
Speaker 2: even created yourself asking for it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know it's it's you know, for a child
Speaker 1: to feel that buzzing and then you know, go outside
Speaker 1: of the body and then make that association with the
Speaker 1: telephone and with bugs, it could be a terrifying experience
Speaker 1: that you don't fully remember. So going outside of the body,
Speaker 1: having that buzzing sensation, not being able to move around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see why that would bring up that sort
Speaker 1: of sensation with the bugs and everything. This was a
Speaker 1: very interesting email. And we've got more from Winter York, so.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, we could use that. We use the
Speaker 2: other one for next week.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, these are great. I mean they all sort
Speaker 1: of meshed together. And the first one with the alchemical
Speaker 1: symbols right that she's drawing on the inside of this
Speaker 1: house and they're like, you're opening a portal that you
Speaker 1: can't close. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: What do these.
Speaker 1: Alchemical symbols have to do with a portal? And she
Speaker 1: was talking about the purifying fire, which is also very alchemical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and having that that strong association there, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of alchemists will talk about that with the purification
Speaker 2: by fire.
Speaker 1: Right, Calcinatio. Maybe next time I'll pull out some of
Speaker 1: the alchemy books and go over some of the symbols
Speaker 1: in there. Would the easier that actually downloading pictures off
Speaker 1: the internet and trying to use for the.
Speaker 2: Show, right, Oh yo, at nine o'clock Robbie March. We
Speaker 2: got go coming on tonight, so people still too, you
Speaker 2: can jump over nine o'clock. We got Robbie Marks coming
Speaker 2: on to cover Adonna's. Should be a few of us
Speaker 2: there from the Rejects, so that should.
Speaker 1: Be fun, right, And this is a continuation of some
Speaker 1: of his other stuff. So if you're into his work
Speaker 1: on Kyberle and addis a donnas Is.
Speaker 2: That's exactly why he's doing it.
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, absolutely, well, this has been good. We're
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Speaker 1: So I buying a website for it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, you start selling to even to make the money
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Speaker 1: That right, so much of a markup. So if you want,
Speaker 1: if you're interested in some of my artwork, just email
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Speaker 1: everything else, or if we can make a trade.
Speaker 2: Ye, all right, real quick, what age was winter in
Speaker 2: that email? I mean, in that dream? Did she mention?
Speaker 1: Yeah, these were about five to six years old, so
Speaker 1: she had no idea that these were like deeper symbols
Speaker 1: until much later.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, I just wonder. Oh yeah, okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, really formative time and in a person's life,
Speaker 1: so you could see how these dreams would be very
Speaker 1: important to the rest of her life. And she didn't
Speaker 1: think about it again until thirties, so it's kind of
Speaker 1: a disconnect there. So next time, if you want to
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Speaker 1: and the stickers and posters out to you. So check
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