Speaker 1: Okay, b La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, God bless,
Speaker 1: Happy Monday. What a Monday already. I'm dominate Taprima. This
Speaker 1: show is called First Things First, and my very first
Speaker 1: thing every day is prayer, and then prayer again, and
Speaker 1: then prayer some more, and then we go, let's get
Speaker 1: it started. Man, you got a lot of prayer today.
Speaker 1: It is a mindful Monday. So the way we do
Speaker 1: things around here technical difficulty or none. Way we do
Speaker 1: things around here. Our one we look local. Our two
Speaker 1: we go national, international, and beyond. And in the third
Speaker 1: hour we do a deep dive. Now our two typically
Speaker 1: starts with Sahara Ali and our Mindful Monday segment. So
Speaker 1: we get get our heads together right, get ourselves present
Speaker 1: and intentional for the week that will be the week
Speaker 1: we would like to manifest, so to speak. We do
Speaker 1: that in the top of the second hour, a guided
Speaker 1: meditation and affirmation, a little astrological outlook with Tara Ali,
Speaker 1: who is a meditation instructor, a yoga teacher, is Soundbath,
Speaker 1: Special to Life coach, and more, and today is Black
Speaker 1: Marriage Monday. You know, we kind of got on a
Speaker 1: different little schedule because we wanted to get the gen
Speaker 1: Z perspective for Messy Monday, and we had to do
Speaker 1: that before the gen Z folks went back to school,
Speaker 1: back to college. And so we're doing our Black Marriage
Speaker 1: Monday today and we'll be talking with doctor James Smith.
Speaker 1: He's a communications specialist. So it doesn't just apply to marriage.
Speaker 1: It can apply to your situationship, relationship, even your breakup.
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe your job. But it is Black Marriage Monday,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna focus on those long term, committed style
Speaker 1: relationships like the one James Farr is in. James Farr
Speaker 1: is with Me this morning. He's the host of The
Speaker 1: Conversation Live on the weekends here Saturday mornings to be
Speaker 1: exact Altadna Ford, and he is also a writer for
Speaker 1: the LA Progressive.
Speaker 2: Good morning James, Good morning Dominique. How are you well?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm we're here and we were here, yes,
Speaker 1: and we're overcoming adversity to do what we do. So
Speaker 1: that's a blessing. I'm blessed. How are you you know what?
Speaker 1: I'm here?
Speaker 2: I'm in the fight, I'm swinging. Is it mercury retro grave?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll have to ask Sahara when she gets on be
Speaker 1: honest with you, because it sure feels like it. Me
Speaker 1: and my girlfriend went all the way to Anaheim last
Speaker 1: night to see Daniel Caesar. Okay, right at the pond
Speaker 1: well whatever is that the name of the place, The
Speaker 1: Honda Center where the where they play hockey, right, and
Speaker 1: the stub Hub people send us a message.
Speaker 3: Good news you've been upgraded, which.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of before with a concert that's usually
Speaker 1: airline tickets.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Turns out they were lying because they took us from
Speaker 1: the really I see so that we purchased. They said,
Speaker 1: now you're down in the pit, right. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that Daniel Caesar has so many twelve year old fans.
Speaker 3: What does that say about me and my emotional maturity?
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, I just like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love me.
Speaker 3: So Daniel Caesar, I get there. Everyone else is twelve.
Speaker 2: Then all that aside Dominique, as you were in there
Speaker 2: chronologically more mature than anyone in the building. Perhaps perhaps
Speaker 2: what was the best part of it, right, Well.
Speaker 3: Don't know. I didn't get to the punchline yet.
Speaker 1: We get we get another text from them, We've been sorry,
Speaker 1: you've been put in general admission, which they won't tell
Speaker 1: us what it is and basically what it ended up.
Speaker 1: We didn't get to go to the show because basically,
Speaker 1: I guess they over sold it. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they did, but they took away our tickets, and so
Speaker 1: we had the option of going in there with a
Speaker 1: huge crowd of twelve year olds and not knowing where
Speaker 1: we were going to be and getting charged the really
Speaker 1: big price that we paid for great tickets, or going
Speaker 1: home and hoping for one day getting refund.
Speaker 3: It was such a bummer.
Speaker 1: We drove all the way back, didn't see any Daniel Caesar,
Speaker 1: actually not one song.
Speaker 3: We saw a lot of twelve year olds wheeling around. Though.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that where they just take
Speaker 1: away your ticket and then they send it, send us
Speaker 1: all these texts, We're sorry, we understand that you bought
Speaker 1: these tickets and we're giving you these other crappy tickets.
Speaker 1: But sometimes this happens and we do our best and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I never heard of that.
Speaker 3: Have you heard of that?
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen people get upgraded, I don't, but when.
Speaker 1: It was really downgrade and then eventually you're in general admission,
Speaker 1: whatever that means, and then.
Speaker 3: They stopped texting us back.
Speaker 1: I feel like I felt like I was lost in
Speaker 1: a scam somewhere.
Speaker 2: I'm sympathetic.
Speaker 3: You're laughing on me. I got you.
Speaker 1: We drove all the way to Anaheim for no reason.
Speaker 1: So Daniel Caesar call me.
Speaker 3: Call me. Daniel Caesar called me.
Speaker 1: Surely you wanted to season Black Women.
Speaker 3: At show? Good morning with all the twelve year olds?
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, James Farce here, we do have a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm still like, really.
Speaker 1: Sad he's And also I'm questioning myself because he's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite artists right now, and I'm thinking, does
Speaker 1: that mean I have the emotional maturity of a twelve
Speaker 1: year old.
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get to We got a lot. We
Speaker 1: have a lot on the list, right, James got News,
Speaker 1: traffic and sports and the more on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do appreciate you, Miles.
Speaker 1: I didn't know next time you got to tell me,
Speaker 1: Miles be on top of the stuff. Okay, why am
Speaker 1: I hearing that? Oh that's my that's me. Sorry, it's
Speaker 1: like that today. It's like it was like that yesterday.
Speaker 1: But we're here and we're good. So James, what's going
Speaker 1: on over there in.
Speaker 3: The Alta Pass pass out?
Speaker 1: I saw this uh breakdown in the LA Times this
Speaker 1: weekend talking about their top takeaways from the new investigation,
Speaker 1: the new reports on the Alta Dina fire, Alta Dina
Speaker 1: Eating Canyon fire. And I guess you know you cover
Speaker 1: this weekend week out. But to me for the LA
Speaker 1: Times to basically put Southern California Edison on blast like that,
Speaker 1: making it sound like they were negligent, that they were
Speaker 1: covering things up, and that they were incompetent, I found
Speaker 1: that pretty that should be pretty dire for Southern California Edison. First,
Speaker 1: kb LA, now here comes the LA Times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well I am not surprised in what the
Speaker 2: La Times reported because it's just the facts, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: and we hope that they remain in fact in evidence base.
Speaker 2: I've also reported, as you know, on this extensively in
Speaker 2: KBLA and Black Press, USA, LA Progressive and the like.
Speaker 2: But the key takeaways is the Altadena this fire happened
Speaker 2: in twelve seconds, comedy. What was fully known, and we've
Speaker 2: known this since early last year, immediately following the fire
Speaker 2: that this utility pole, which had been decommissioned. ARCD started
Speaker 2: a fire under brush that they did not maintain. They
Speaker 2: had Win advisory, National Weather Service advisories, all of these
Speaker 2: four warnings that something catastrophic could happen, and what ended
Speaker 2: up happening is we ended up with a hurricane without rain,
Speaker 2: eighty mile an hour winds, seventy foot tall wall. The
Speaker 2: fire came burroling down on this community. It's what we've
Speaker 2: always done. There have been twelve independent point of views,
Speaker 2: independent videos. At a surface, there was never a question,
Speaker 2: and up until very recently, Edison has been in court
Speaker 2: saying that, well, we don't know what started. Now they're
Speaker 2: kind of looking at well, possibly at us. But the
Speaker 2: fact is I had attorney Doug Boxer on Saturday and
Speaker 2: he's saying affirmatively that Edison could have settled this matter
Speaker 2: forty five days after the event. There's so many different
Speaker 2: things that Edison could have done to help displaced and
Speaker 2: burned out families. They chose not to while it's simultaneously
Speaker 2: paying dividends, record profits in their CEO clocked sixteen point
Speaker 2: five million dollars as a compensation for burning out of town.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works, but it worked for him.
Speaker 1: Well you know what I mean, we are so what
Speaker 1: you're really saying is it's nothing new because we knew,
Speaker 1: Like you said, we knew all of that.
Speaker 3: But it seems like it.
Speaker 1: Would be harder and harder for them to keep playing
Speaker 1: dumb the way that they have been in court. And
Speaker 1: it also to me explains why so few people still.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a couple thousand I think that have
Speaker 1: taken their deal. That may sound like a lot, but
Speaker 1: out of what nine thousand or more people, that's.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, upwards of thirty thousand. There's not a
Speaker 2: true accurate account of how many people are displaced. There's
Speaker 2: no way to really qualify that. But we do know
Speaker 2: the number of structures, about ninety four hundred total structures,
Speaker 2: homes and businesses. What I believe Edison's strategy was from
Speaker 2: a legal standpoint, of course I'm not a lawyer, but essentially,
Speaker 2: as long as they can kick the can as far
Speaker 2: down the road, you have to look at what was
Speaker 2: happening kind of underneath this and run timelines. Chronologically. They're
Speaker 2: paying dividends shareholders. This is strictly about profit, not people,
Speaker 2: and so we'll get to a point where Edison will
Speaker 2: not take this to trial. The preponderance of evidence is
Speaker 2: too damning.
Speaker 3: For them, right, So they're going to lose.
Speaker 1: So so they're they're just slow walking it. What are
Speaker 1: they hoping like residents die off? I mean, what is
Speaker 1: the payoff if you know you're gonna lose of slow walking?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's no morality in capitalism. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what it is. There's no ethic in capitalism right there.
Speaker 2: The key is for them to keep the meet running,
Speaker 2: for them to continue to generate profits for their shareholders
Speaker 2: and stakeholders. But what eventually will happen is they, I believe,
Speaker 2: based on you know, a council that I'm speaking with,
Speaker 2: they will settle this case before the two year statue
Speaker 2: of limitation.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, well, I mean to me, you know that
Speaker 1: that articles, like you said, wasn't a lot of new stuff.
Speaker 1: But the fact that now the mainstream is totally reporting
Speaker 1: the opposite or you know, a much more dire picture
Speaker 1: than what they are admitting to in court not good
Speaker 1: news for them.
Speaker 3: And you know when you talk in your piece about.
Speaker 1: The fire that destroyed Black Altadena and we can't forget
Speaker 1: almost twenty people died in that fire, that.
Speaker 3: You know this is.
Speaker 1: This has got to help, I guess for the people
Speaker 1: who are trying to make the case, for the people
Speaker 1: that are not taking the deal, because the more we know,
Speaker 1: the worse it gets for southern California.
Speaker 2: Edison, Yeah, I just learned just last week Dominate that
Speaker 2: there are eleven confirmed suicides as a result of this fire,
Speaker 2: and so the trauma and the toll keeps getting more
Speaker 2: and more. Eric Rodriguez, as recently as May, a survivor
Speaker 2: who was in the rebuilding process, got two over his head.
Speaker 2: According to his letter that he left for his family,
Speaker 2: and he decided to unlive himself. Whether or not this
Speaker 2: impacts the litigation is yet to be seen. Edison knows
Speaker 2: their exposure. They knew that from the very beginning. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to move the needle one way
Speaker 2: or the other. Both sides are looking for a resolution
Speaker 2: that if this thing does go to trial and plainish prevail,
Speaker 2: that pushes out any compensation for years, and so it's
Speaker 2: a balance of how do you get people compensation. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say justice, that's their citicide, but I
Speaker 2: don't know that people feel any better. I think what
Speaker 2: people would much rather see is District Attorney Nathan Hoffman
Speaker 2: criminally indict Southern California Edison and Edison International and charged
Speaker 2: them like they did in Butke County, with counts of manslaughter.
Speaker 2: Nineteen people died dominique. That's a homicide. That's not we
Speaker 2: sanitized and say they died or their death right. But
Speaker 2: what was the causation? It's a homicide, it's not murder,
Speaker 2: but at a minimum, it should be reviewed and investigated
Speaker 2: as manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter at the least. And that's what
Speaker 2: legal experts are saying.
Speaker 1: And DA Hoffman has not ruled that out right, he
Speaker 1: just hasn't moved.
Speaker 2: I asked d. A. Hawkman in April of last year,
Speaker 2: if the evidence came back and supported causation of Edison,
Speaker 2: and if there is shown to be negligent, let's just
Speaker 2: cite the LA Times, right, if what people are reading
Speaker 2: in that fifty something page investigation by the Los Angeles
Speaker 2: County Fire Department, I don't see how this doesn't work
Speaker 2: to the level of a criminal charge. He hasn't said
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But how long does the
Speaker 2: public allow the district attorney who one said he was
Speaker 2: the hard middle and tough on crime too. You and
Speaker 2: I both know Dominie black folks voted for this DA.
Speaker 3: Well, not this black folks. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I know because I saw plenty
Speaker 1: of signs in my community that said same lawn sign
Speaker 1: that said black lives matter, said Nathan Hoffman, which I
Speaker 1: found very confusing. But yeah, and I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that it seems like that matters. Maybe
Speaker 1: it does, maybe it doesn't to I mean, everybody has to.
Speaker 1: Every DA has to run for reelection at some point,
Speaker 1: but it seems like, you know, he's pivoted more more
Speaker 1: openly sort of maga in his stances since being elected.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's the potential of destabilizing the utility that
Speaker 2: so there's that concern. But District Attorney Hoffman has an
Speaker 2: election coming up, he has an announced that he's going
Speaker 2: to run for reelection in eight of course he will, right.
Speaker 2: I don't see how this isn't a He loves the
Speaker 2: celebrity case. He loves a high profile case. Charging Edison
Speaker 2: would certainly elevate his profile nationally and internationally, but I
Speaker 2: don't think he should do it because of that. He
Speaker 2: should do it because it's the right thing to do. Dominicue,
Speaker 2: you or I are responsible for nineteen people dying in
Speaker 2: thirty plus thousand people displaced in nine thousand structures. I
Speaker 2: don't know how we don't get charged.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to see because to your point, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he may love that elevation any politician would of their
Speaker 1: name during an election season. But I think also it's
Speaker 1: what it's elevated for. I don't you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's seeking the Yeah, we'll see the approval
Speaker 1: of of that of black Altadena. I'm just saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's on the top of the.
Speaker 2: Vote. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and as they should. The other thing is,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're speaking about this DA, we've seen that, uh,
Speaker 1: he has decided to back down on charges against that
Speaker 1: cop who was a whistleblower, the cop that took all
Speaker 1: the video or all the all the that taped all
Speaker 1: of the racist commentary from the l a p D
Speaker 1: with in the hopes that there would be disciplinary action, racist, sexist, homophobic,
Speaker 1: ablest and the DA had thrown a felony at this
Speaker 1: guy now it looks like he's backed it down to misdemeanors.
Speaker 1: And what that tells me is that, you know, when
Speaker 1: a lot of people speak out, it does move the needle,
Speaker 1: because I think everyone was outraged.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just us.
Speaker 1: Once again, it wasn't just black folks. We started to
Speaker 1: see people on the West side going, what is happening?
Speaker 1: What message are we sending the cops if we punish
Speaker 1: them for being whistleblowers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, they circled the wagons. They expect
Speaker 2: what Da Hawkman did initially was protect the organism, right,
Speaker 2: It wasn't to look at the intent of what the
Speaker 2: officer did in recording it. I mean, we want officers
Speaker 2: to come forward, We want them to root out this
Speaker 2: kind of behavior because it shows up in their enforcement
Speaker 2: when they're on the street.
Speaker 1: I mean, we always say aware are the good cops,
Speaker 1: but then you get you know this and that the
Speaker 1: young woman in Pasadena that we talked about another officer,
Speaker 1: Tyson Crutchfield, who was punished and eventually fired for or
Speaker 1: pushed out. I don't know if it was fired or
Speaker 1: pushed out, but for speaking out against her own partners.
Speaker 1: So what message are we sending, and I feel like
Speaker 1: the officer got so much public support, even his name
Speaker 1: was Daniel Flores, even though Hawkman's people, the DA's office
Speaker 1: was saying, well, this guy wasn't really in it for good.
Speaker 3: He was just in it to get a paycheck.
Speaker 1: But whether he was in it for a check or
Speaker 1: for not a check, I think the message is clear.
Speaker 1: If you got sixteen felony charges against you for calling
Speaker 1: out racism and sexism in the department, that's you know, a.
Speaker 2: Problem, that's that's that's not the culture. The culture is
Speaker 2: not reporting your colleagues. I talked with someone very familiar
Speaker 2: with labor negotiations and police unions, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how to sanitize this dominique, but what I'm told is
Speaker 2: that police eat their own. They are far We know
Speaker 2: how brutal they can be right to the public, we
Speaker 2: see it, But in terms of how they turn their
Speaker 2: apparatus on each other is pretty vicious. And so it's
Speaker 2: not a surprise that anyone that speaks out and kind
Speaker 2: of goes against the system. It's not a surprise that
Speaker 2: those who participate in acts of violence and show up
Speaker 2: as violence workers promote up the ranks. This is rewardable behavior.
Speaker 2: What Officer Flores has done is completely went against the system.
Speaker 2: Some call it a blue wall of science. I think
Speaker 2: it's just culture and violence and this type of behavior
Speaker 2: is just accepted and it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, James Fars here, you're invited in all always
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Speaker 3: We do have a lot to talk about KBLA Talk fifteen.
Speaker 1: I want to touch on before we run out of
Speaker 1: time with you here, James Fire, I want to touch
Speaker 1: on an article you wrote about this deal between well
Speaker 1: the deal that Governor Newsom is possibly championing here with
Speaker 1: Southern California Edison that would I guess he's trying to
Speaker 1: keep them solvent. Is that the logic behind it?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the logic is the utility cartails are lobbying.
Speaker 2: There's no bill language. Yeah, but what the utility cartails
Speaker 2: are looking to do is to reduce the amount of
Speaker 2: compensation that fire survivors would be able to recover. And
Speaker 2: that would be compensatory damn, which is or perhaps like
Speaker 2: emotional distress. So they're looking to kind of go retroactively,
Speaker 2: which would significantly impact again the recovery for fire survivors.
Speaker 2: Why the governor would do this is yet to be seen,
Speaker 2: But I think the more important question is why are
Speaker 2: legislators potentially going to allow this to have That's a
Speaker 2: greater concern and many many think it's because everyone has
Speaker 2: their own bills or pet projects. The governor has the
Speaker 2: final pen and so what you won't see is any
Speaker 2: of the legislators speak out publicly and challenge him. You
Speaker 2: will hear them speak out against the insurance companies and
Speaker 2: the utilities. What the public needs to do is to
Speaker 2: get in contact with their legislators and let them know
Speaker 2: if this bill is afoot. The closer session is this week,
Speaker 2: that they need to stand in that gap and make
Speaker 2: sure that all rate payers in the state of CALIFORNI
Speaker 2: you won't be penalized when there are wildfires or fires
Speaker 2: caused by utility companies.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that you know how that can be.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like I understand we need utility companies.
Speaker 1: They do have shareholders. I'm trying to figure out why
Speaker 1: we're so desperately trying to protect them when they're making
Speaker 1: record profits. I mean, when you know Pedro Pizarro got
Speaker 1: this huge bonus, they're not hurting. Why can't they pay
Speaker 1: the victims of the eating fire? Why can't they pay
Speaker 1: it out? They've got plenty of money.
Speaker 2: Now, the money is already there in a rate paying
Speaker 2: that the utility payers have already paid into this account, right,
Speaker 2: and so the money is there. What Edison is trying
Speaker 2: to do is to mitigate against right so that they
Speaker 2: keep the money. This is essentially dominate. This is already
Speaker 2: to rate payers money that they're returning back to them
Speaker 2: that they've collected by way of feet, We've already been
Speaker 2: legislated to pay into these wildfire recovery funds for this event.
Speaker 2: Edison is only concerned about their bottom line. It is
Speaker 2: just strictly capitalism and profit over people. They tell that
Speaker 2: they want to be Pedro Pizzarro to cel says he
Speaker 2: wants to be a good neighbor and a community member.
Speaker 2: This is not how that shows up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But okay, so here's the thing. Yes, we I'm
Speaker 1: not under Southern California, Edison.
Speaker 3: But rate payers get.
Speaker 1: Taxed, get fees, and there's already a cap on what
Speaker 1: the utilities are on the hook for because we the
Speaker 1: people already have been tasked by our own lawmakers for
Speaker 1: covering the butts of these utilities. But they're talking about
Speaker 1: even further restrictions now, they're talking about putting ceilings on
Speaker 1: what you can get for pain and suffering in the
Speaker 1: like right, right, So why there's I guess when I'm
Speaker 1: not innderstanding and since there's already this cap, there's already
Speaker 1: these protections of how much they're on the hook for,
Speaker 1: why do we need more? Why is the governor or
Speaker 1: why are some lawmakers feeling like we need to protect
Speaker 1: them even more when they're clearly thriving and they're already protected.
Speaker 2: It's the money in politics. No one wants to come
Speaker 2: up against the utility cartels, lobby and muscle right. They
Speaker 2: have to get reelected. The other thing is you're looking
Speaker 2: at private versus public and I know a short on
Speaker 2: time private utility companies versus public utility companies. It's the
Speaker 2: private utility companies that we've been talking about for the
Speaker 2: last decade or so that are the cause of these fires.
Speaker 2: Pasadena hasn't had a fire, La hasn't had a fire.
Speaker 2: You know, the cities that have public utility companies because
Speaker 2: the attention to maintaining the system is much more detailed
Speaker 2: than what the private company things are doing. It's profit.
Speaker 2: They knew, they knew that pole was a loaded gun
Speaker 2: waiting to go off. They just didn't care. Fifty two years, Dominique,
Speaker 2: it had sat up there with this potential, and then the.
Speaker 1: Fact that they didn't clear the brush around that you know,
Speaker 1: around that station is crazy to me. They said over
Speaker 1: ten years or something they hadn't cleared it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they received certifications every year that the things
Speaker 2: were being handled. So it's a corrupt system all the
Speaker 2: way through, with the appointments from the certification boards. All
Speaker 2: of that failed, Alta Dina on January seventh, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: all of them.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that some folks are still striving for justice.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that, you know, a lot of people have
Speaker 1: not given up on getting their fair share or had
Speaker 1: been forced to cave into the utilities.
Speaker 3: Not such such a great deal.
Speaker 1: And I'm thankful that you continue to on this, James,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for giving us an update.
Speaker 2: Thank you, dom wep a good day and.
Speaker 3: You as well.
Speaker 1: Mindful Monday with Sahara Ali is next. After that, we
Speaker 1: open up these phone lines and talk pol tricks. As
Speaker 1: Sahara would say, it's KBLA Doc fifteen eighty