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Speaker 1: Okay, b La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, God bless,

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Happy Monday. What a Monday already. I'm dominate Taprima. This

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show is called First Things First, and my very first

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thing every day is prayer, and then prayer again, and

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then prayer some more, and then we go, let's get

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it started. Man, you got a lot of prayer today.

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It is a mindful Monday. So the way we do

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things around here technical difficulty or none. Way we do

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things around here. Our one we look local. Our two

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we go national, international, and beyond. And in the third

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hour we do a deep dive. Now our two typically

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starts with Sahara Ali and our Mindful Monday segment. So

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we get get our heads together right, get ourselves present

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and intentional for the week that will be the week

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we would like to manifest, so to speak. We do

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that in the top of the second hour, a guided

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meditation and affirmation, a little astrological outlook with Tara Ali,

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who is a meditation instructor, a yoga teacher, is Soundbath,

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Special to Life coach, and more, and today is Black

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Marriage Monday. You know, we kind of got on a

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different little schedule because we wanted to get the gen

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Z perspective for Messy Monday, and we had to do

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that before the gen Z folks went back to school,

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back to college. And so we're doing our Black Marriage

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Monday today and we'll be talking with doctor James Smith.

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He's a communications specialist. So it doesn't just apply to marriage.

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It can apply to your situationship, relationship, even your breakup.

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Who knows, maybe your job. But it is Black Marriage Monday,

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so we're gonna focus on those long term, committed style

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relationships like the one James Farr is in. James Farr

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is with Me this morning. He's the host of The

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Conversation Live on the weekends here Saturday mornings to be

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exact Altadna Ford, and he is also a writer for

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the LA Progressive.

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Speaker 2: Good morning James, Good morning Dominique. How are you well?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm we're here and we were here, yes,

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and we're overcoming adversity to do what we do. So

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that's a blessing. I'm blessed. How are you you know what?

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I'm here?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the fight, I'm swinging. Is it mercury retro grave?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to ask Sahara when she gets on be

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honest with you, because it sure feels like it. Me

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and my girlfriend went all the way to Anaheim last

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night to see Daniel Caesar. Okay, right at the pond

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well whatever is that the name of the place, The

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Honda Center where the where they play hockey, right, and

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the stub Hub people send us a message.

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Speaker 3: Good news you've been upgraded, which.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of before with a concert that's usually

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airline tickets.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Turns out they were lying because they took us from

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the really I see so that we purchased. They said,

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now you're down in the pit, right. I didn't realize

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that Daniel Caesar has so many twelve year old fans.

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Speaker 3: What does that say about me and my emotional maturity?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, I just like, oh, I

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love me.

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Speaker 3: So Daniel Caesar, I get there. Everyone else is twelve.

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Speaker 2: Then all that aside Dominique, as you were in there

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chronologically more mature than anyone in the building. Perhaps perhaps

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what was the best part of it, right, Well.

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Speaker 3: Don't know. I didn't get to the punchline yet.

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Speaker 1: We get we get another text from them, We've been sorry,

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you've been put in general admission, which they won't tell

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us what it is and basically what it ended up.

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We didn't get to go to the show because basically,

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I guess they over sold it. I don't know what

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they did, but they took away our tickets, and so

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we had the option of going in there with a

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huge crowd of twelve year olds and not knowing where

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we were going to be and getting charged the really

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big price that we paid for great tickets, or going

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home and hoping for one day getting refund.

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Speaker 3: It was such a bummer.

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Speaker 1: We drove all the way back, didn't see any Daniel Caesar,

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actually not one song.

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Speaker 3: We saw a lot of twelve year olds wheeling around. Though.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that where they just take

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away your ticket and then they send it, send us

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all these texts, We're sorry, we understand that you bought

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these tickets and we're giving you these other crappy tickets.

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But sometimes this happens and we do our best and

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blah blah blah. I never heard of that.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've seen people get upgraded, I don't, but when.

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Speaker 1: It was really downgrade and then eventually you're in general admission,

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whatever that means, and then.

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Speaker 3: They stopped texting us back.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I felt like I was lost in

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a scam somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm sympathetic.

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Speaker 3: You're laughing on me. I got you.

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Speaker 1: We drove all the way to Anaheim for no reason.

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So Daniel Caesar call me.

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Speaker 3: Call me. Daniel Caesar called me.

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Speaker 1: Surely you wanted to season Black Women.

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Speaker 3: At show? Good morning with all the twelve year olds?

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, James Farce here, we do have a

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lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm still like, really.

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Speaker 1: Sad he's And also I'm questioning myself because he's one

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of my favorite artists right now, and I'm thinking, does

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that mean I have the emotional maturity of a twelve

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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get to We got a lot. We

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have a lot on the list, right, James got News,

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traffic and sports and the more on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do appreciate you, Miles.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know next time you got to tell me,

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Miles be on top of the stuff. Okay, why am

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I hearing that? Oh that's my that's me. Sorry, it's

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like that today. It's like it was like that yesterday.

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But we're here and we're good. So James, what's going

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on over there in.

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Speaker 3: The Alta Pass pass out?

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Speaker 1: I saw this uh breakdown in the LA Times this

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weekend talking about their top takeaways from the new investigation,

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the new reports on the Alta Dina fire, Alta Dina

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Eating Canyon fire. And I guess you know you cover

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this weekend week out. But to me for the LA

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Times to basically put Southern California Edison on blast like that,

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making it sound like they were negligent, that they were

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covering things up, and that they were incompetent, I found

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that pretty that should be pretty dire for Southern California Edison. First,

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kb LA, now here comes the LA Times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well I am not surprised in what the

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La Times reported because it's just the facts, right, I mean,

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and we hope that they remain in fact in evidence base.

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I've also reported, as you know, on this extensively in

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KBLA and Black Press, USA, LA Progressive and the like.

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But the key takeaways is the Altadena this fire happened

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in twelve seconds, comedy. What was fully known, and we've

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known this since early last year, immediately following the fire

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that this utility pole, which had been decommissioned. ARCD started

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a fire under brush that they did not maintain. They

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had Win advisory, National Weather Service advisories, all of these

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four warnings that something catastrophic could happen, and what ended

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up happening is we ended up with a hurricane without rain,

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eighty mile an hour winds, seventy foot tall wall. The

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fire came burroling down on this community. It's what we've

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always done. There have been twelve independent point of views,

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independent videos. At a surface, there was never a question,

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and up until very recently, Edison has been in court

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saying that, well, we don't know what started. Now they're

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kind of looking at well, possibly at us. But the

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fact is I had attorney Doug Boxer on Saturday and

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he's saying affirmatively that Edison could have settled this matter

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forty five days after the event. There's so many different

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things that Edison could have done to help displaced and

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burned out families. They chose not to while it's simultaneously

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paying dividends, record profits in their CEO clocked sixteen point

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five million dollars as a compensation for burning out of town.

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I don't know how that works, but it worked for him.

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Speaker 1: Well you know what I mean, we are so what

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you're really saying is it's nothing new because we knew,

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Speaker 3: But it seems like it.

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Speaker 1: Would be harder and harder for them to keep playing

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dumb the way that they have been in court. And

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it also to me explains why so few people still.

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I mean, it's a couple thousand I think that have

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taken their deal. That may sound like a lot, but

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out of what nine thousand or more people, that's.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, upwards of thirty thousand. There's not a

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true accurate account of how many people are displaced. There's

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no way to really qualify that. But we do know

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the number of structures, about ninety four hundred total structures,

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homes and businesses. What I believe Edison's strategy was from

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a legal standpoint, of course I'm not a lawyer, but essentially,

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as long as they can kick the can as far

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down the road, you have to look at what was

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happening kind of underneath this and run timelines. Chronologically. They're

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paying dividends shareholders. This is strictly about profit, not people,

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and so we'll get to a point where Edison will

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not take this to trial. The preponderance of evidence is

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too damning.

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Speaker 3: For them, right, So they're going to lose.

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Speaker 1: So so they're they're just slow walking it. What are

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they hoping like residents die off? I mean, what is

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the payoff if you know you're gonna lose of slow walking?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's no morality in capitalism. I mean,

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that's what it is. There's no ethic in capitalism right there.

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The key is for them to keep the meet running,

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for them to continue to generate profits for their shareholders

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and stakeholders. But what eventually will happen is they, I believe,

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based on you know, a council that I'm speaking with,

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they will settle this case before the two year statue

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of limitation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, well, I mean to me, you know that

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that articles, like you said, wasn't a lot of new stuff.

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But the fact that now the mainstream is totally reporting

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the opposite or you know, a much more dire picture

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than what they are admitting to in court not good

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news for them.

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Speaker 3: And you know when you talk in your piece about.

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Speaker 1: The fire that destroyed Black Altadena and we can't forget

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almost twenty people died in that fire, that.

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Speaker 3: You know this is.

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Speaker 1: This has got to help, I guess for the people

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who are trying to make the case, for the people

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that are not taking the deal, because the more we know,

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the worse it gets for southern California.

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Speaker 2: Edison, Yeah, I just learned just last week Dominate that

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there are eleven confirmed suicides as a result of this fire,

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and so the trauma and the toll keeps getting more

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and more. Eric Rodriguez, as recently as May, a survivor

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who was in the rebuilding process, got two over his head.

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According to his letter that he left for his family,

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and he decided to unlive himself. Whether or not this

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impacts the litigation is yet to be seen. Edison knows

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their exposure. They knew that from the very beginning. I

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don't think it's going to move the needle one way

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or the other. Both sides are looking for a resolution

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that if this thing does go to trial and plainish prevail,

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that pushes out any compensation for years, and so it's

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a balance of how do you get people compensation. I

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don't want to say justice, that's their citicide, but I

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don't know that people feel any better. I think what

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people would much rather see is District Attorney Nathan Hoffman

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criminally indict Southern California Edison and Edison International and charged

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them like they did in Butke County, with counts of manslaughter.

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Nineteen people died dominique. That's a homicide. That's not we

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sanitized and say they died or their death right. But

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what was the causation? It's a homicide, it's not murder,

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but at a minimum, it should be reviewed and investigated

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as manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter at the least. And that's what

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legal experts are saying.

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Speaker 1: And DA Hoffman has not ruled that out right, he

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just hasn't moved.

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Speaker 2: I asked d. A. Hawkman in April of last year,

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if the evidence came back and supported causation of Edison,

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and if there is shown to be negligent, let's just

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cite the LA Times, right, if what people are reading

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in that fifty something page investigation by the Los Angeles

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County Fire Department, I don't see how this doesn't work

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to the level of a criminal charge. He hasn't said

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one way or the other. But how long does the

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public allow the district attorney who one said he was

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the hard middle and tough on crime too. You and

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I both know Dominie black folks voted for this DA.

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Speaker 3: Well, not this black folks. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I know because I saw plenty

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of signs in my community that said same lawn sign

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that said black lives matter, said Nathan Hoffman, which I

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found very confusing. But yeah, and I don't, you know,

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it does, maybe it doesn't to I mean, everybody has to.

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but it seems like, you know, he's pivoted more more

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openly sort of maga in his stances since being elected.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's the potential of destabilizing the utility that

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so there's that concern. But District Attorney Hoffman has an

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election coming up, he has an announced that he's going

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to run for reelection in eight of course he will, right.

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I don't see how this isn't a He loves the

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celebrity case. He loves a high profile case. Charging Edison

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would certainly elevate his profile nationally and internationally, but I

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don't think he should do it because of that. He

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should do it because it's the right thing to do. Dominicue,

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you or I are responsible for nineteen people dying in

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thirty plus thousand people displaced in nine thousand structures. I

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don't know how we don't get charged.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to see because to your point, Yeah,

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he may love that elevation any politician would of their

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name during an election season. But I think also it's

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what it's elevated for. I don't you know, I don't

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know that he's seeking the Yeah, we'll see the approval

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of of that of black Altadena. I'm just saying, I

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don't know if that's on the top of the.

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Speaker 2: Vote. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and as they should. The other thing is,

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you know, when you're speaking about this DA, we've seen that, uh,

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he has decided to back down on charges against that

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cop who was a whistleblower, the cop that took all

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the video or all the all the that taped all

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of the racist commentary from the l a p D

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with in the hopes that there would be disciplinary action, racist, sexist, homophobic,

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ablest and the DA had thrown a felony at this

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guy now it looks like he's backed it down to misdemeanors.

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And what that tells me is that, you know, when

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a lot of people speak out, it does move the needle,

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because I think everyone was outraged.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just us.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it wasn't just black folks. We started to

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see people on the West side going, what is happening?

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What message are we sending the cops if we punish

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them for being whistleblowers?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, they circled the wagons. They expect

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what Da Hawkman did initially was protect the organism, right,

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It wasn't to look at the intent of what the

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officer did in recording it. I mean, we want officers

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to come forward, We want them to root out this

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kind of behavior because it shows up in their enforcement

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when they're on the street.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we always say aware are the good cops,

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but then you get you know this and that the

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young woman in Pasadena that we talked about another officer,

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Tyson Crutchfield, who was punished and eventually fired for or

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pushed out. I don't know if it was fired or

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pushed out, but for speaking out against her own partners.

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So what message are we sending, and I feel like

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the officer got so much public support, even his name

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was Daniel Flores, even though Hawkman's people, the DA's office

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was saying, well, this guy wasn't really in it for good.

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Speaker 3: He was just in it to get a paycheck.

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Speaker 1: But whether he was in it for a check or

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for not a check, I think the message is clear.

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If you got sixteen felony charges against you for calling

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out racism and sexism in the department, that's you know, a.

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Speaker 2: Problem, that's that's that's not the culture. The culture is

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not reporting your colleagues. I talked with someone very familiar

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with labor negotiations and police unions, and I don't know

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how to sanitize this dominique, but what I'm told is

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that police eat their own. They are far We know

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how brutal they can be right to the public, we

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see it, But in terms of how they turn their

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apparatus on each other is pretty vicious. And so it's

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not a surprise that anyone that speaks out and kind

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of goes against the system. It's not a surprise that

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those who participate in acts of violence and show up

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as violence workers promote up the ranks. This is rewardable behavior.

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What Officer Flores has done is completely went against the system.

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Some call it a blue wall of science. I think

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it's just culture and violence and this type of behavior

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is just accepted and it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, James Fars here, you're invited in all always

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Speaker 3: We do have a lot to talk about KBLA Talk fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I want to touch on before we run out of

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time with you here, James Fire, I want to touch

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on an article you wrote about this deal between well

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the deal that Governor Newsom is possibly championing here with

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Southern California Edison that would I guess he's trying to

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keep them solvent. Is that the logic behind it?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the logic is the utility cartails are lobbying.

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There's no bill language. Yeah, but what the utility cartails

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are looking to do is to reduce the amount of

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compensation that fire survivors would be able to recover. And

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that would be compensatory damn, which is or perhaps like

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emotional distress. So they're looking to kind of go retroactively,

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which would significantly impact again the recovery for fire survivors.

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Why the governor would do this is yet to be seen,

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But I think the more important question is why are

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legislators potentially going to allow this to have That's a

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greater concern and many many think it's because everyone has

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their own bills or pet projects. The governor has the

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final pen and so what you won't see is any

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of the legislators speak out publicly and challenge him. You

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will hear them speak out against the insurance companies and

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the utilities. What the public needs to do is to

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get in contact with their legislators and let them know

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if this bill is afoot. The closer session is this week,

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that they need to stand in that gap and make

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sure that all rate payers in the state of CALIFORNI

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you won't be penalized when there are wildfires or fires

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caused by utility companies.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that you know how that can be.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like I understand we need utility companies.

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They do have shareholders. I'm trying to figure out why

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we're so desperately trying to protect them when they're making

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record profits. I mean, when you know Pedro Pizarro got

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this huge bonus, they're not hurting. Why can't they pay

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the victims of the eating fire? Why can't they pay

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it out? They've got plenty of money.

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Speaker 2: Now, the money is already there in a rate paying

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that the utility payers have already paid into this account, right,

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and so the money is there. What Edison is trying

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to do is to mitigate against right so that they

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keep the money. This is essentially dominate. This is already

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to rate payers money that they're returning back to them

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that they've collected by way of feet, We've already been

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legislated to pay into these wildfire recovery funds for this event.

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Edison is only concerned about their bottom line. It is

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just strictly capitalism and profit over people. They tell that

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they want to be Pedro Pizzarro to cel says he

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wants to be a good neighbor and a community member.

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This is not how that shows up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But okay, so here's the thing. Yes, we I'm

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not under Southern California, Edison.

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Speaker 3: But rate payers get.

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Speaker 1: Taxed, get fees, and there's already a cap on what

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the utilities are on the hook for because we the

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people already have been tasked by our own lawmakers for

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covering the butts of these utilities. But they're talking about

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even further restrictions now, they're talking about putting ceilings on

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what you can get for pain and suffering in the

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like right, right, So why there's I guess when I'm

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not innderstanding and since there's already this cap, there's already

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these protections of how much they're on the hook for,

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why do we need more? Why is the governor or

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why are some lawmakers feeling like we need to protect

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them even more when they're clearly thriving and they're already protected.

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Speaker 2: It's the money in politics. No one wants to come

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up against the utility cartels, lobby and muscle right. They

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have to get reelected. The other thing is you're looking

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at private versus public and I know a short on

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time private utility companies versus public utility companies. It's the

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private utility companies that we've been talking about for the

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last decade or so that are the cause of these fires.

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Pasadena hasn't had a fire, La hasn't had a fire.

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the attention to maintaining the system is much more detailed

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than what the private company things are doing. It's profit.

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They knew, they knew that pole was a loaded gun

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waiting to go off. They just didn't care. Fifty two years, Dominique,

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it had sat up there with this potential, and then the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that they didn't clear the brush around that you know,

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around that station is crazy to me. They said over

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ten years or something they hadn't cleared it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they received certifications every year that the things

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were being handled. So it's a corrupt system all the

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way through, with the appointments from the certification boards. All

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of that failed, Alta Dina on January seventh, twenty twenty five,

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all of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that some folks are still striving for justice.

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I'm glad that, you know, a lot of people have

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not given up on getting their fair share or had

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been forced to cave into the utilities.

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Speaker 3: Not such such a great deal.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thankful that you continue to on this, James,

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thanks so much for giving us an update.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, dom wep a good day and.

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Speaker 3: You as well.

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Speaker 1: Mindful Monday with Sahara Ali is next. After that, we

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open up these phone lines and talk pol tricks. As

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Sahara would say, it's KBLA Doc fifteen eighty