Speaker 1: Final day.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Today's the last day you're allowed to say Happy New Year.
Speaker 3: Remember that we adhere to the gospel of Larry David
Speaker 3: on the show. So I'm gonna welcome in our next guest,
Speaker 3: Stevens and Sylvester, and let him know that I'm wishing
Speaker 3: him a very happy New Year. But Sly, today's the
Speaker 3: last day I can say that, man, Just so you know, I.
Speaker 1: Love how Larry David can control our lives, but I
Speaker 1: love saying Happy New Year. I actually said a few
Speaker 1: dead jokes the other day about seeing you in the
Speaker 1: next New year, So are to see you in the
Speaker 1: next year? But yeah, man, Happy New Year to you
Speaker 1: two spence.
Speaker 3: So, Sly, I always say that New Year's is a
Speaker 3: young person's holiday. So your boys stayed home and hung out?
Speaker 2: What would you do? What it looked like in the
Speaker 2: world of Stephen, Stephens and Sylvester.
Speaker 1: Well, my New Year's has always got to be special
Speaker 1: now for the rest of my life because my wife's birthday,
Speaker 1: she's a New Year's baby. Oh, I got I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta do stuff on New Year's. But we go
Speaker 1: back and forth. You know. The last few years we
Speaker 1: were actually talking about it Rose Bowl, Rose Bowl. I
Speaker 1: went to Mexico before, San Diego after, so you know,
Speaker 1: New Year's has always got to be I don't know
Speaker 1: if I can do the old man New Year's that
Speaker 1: much anymore, unless I can convince her to stay home,
Speaker 1: which is not hard. But I just went out downtown
Speaker 1: to Flanker. You know, me, you had to show over there.
Speaker 1: I love that place over there. So I just went
Speaker 1: to Flanker and we had Changing Lanes is a great
Speaker 1: cover band. They did some amazing songs. The vibe was awesome.
Speaker 1: There were so many people there. Everybody was getting in
Speaker 1: the mix. Nobody dresses up anymore, though, you know, I
Speaker 1: felt like me and my wife in our table, we
Speaker 1: were the only group that was dressed up. So I
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on with all that.
Speaker 3: That was kind of different, well, respect for going out,
Speaker 3: and I guess it does hit different when it's your
Speaker 3: wife's birthday.
Speaker 2: So happy birthday to her.
Speaker 3: Glad you had a good time Flanker rules for sure,
Speaker 3: All right, SLI, Before we get to some of the
Speaker 3: local stuff. Now that we have the final four, some
Speaker 3: pretty cool things. I mean, no conference champs in the
Speaker 3: final four, no teams with first round byes in the
Speaker 3: final four, and whoever wins the National Championship, it will
Speaker 3: be the first time for their head coach, which I
Speaker 3: think is kind of cool. But now that we're experiencing
Speaker 3: the twelve team CFP for the first.
Speaker 2: Time, are you pro are you against? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Oh? I love it? I love it. I mean just
Speaker 1: the content alone, you know, it's great. You're giving so
Speaker 1: many people opportunity, right, Like, only two of these teams
Speaker 1: that are in the final four would have been in
Speaker 1: there under the old rule, So I mean giving people
Speaker 1: an opportunity. There's so much controversy around this, like should
Speaker 1: be what you have been in? Should Alabama tried to
Speaker 1: make a case of them being in, but we saw
Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have been in. There's just so many
Speaker 1: things that this is settling. And of course you're still
Speaker 1: gonna have questions on whether we should extend it to
Speaker 1: sixteen or whichever, but at least for the next five
Speaker 1: six years, I think we should definitely have this model.
Speaker 1: I love this model. It was great games. I really
Speaker 1: really enjoyed her Dame game yesterday. The Arizona State Texas
Speaker 1: game was absolutely terrific, and it just proved that, you know,
Speaker 1: you just never know who's whose year it could be, right,
Speaker 1: and so I just it played out great. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see who's going to actually be the champion.
Speaker 1: And yeah, these guys are playing with it. It's great
Speaker 1: heart out there, man.
Speaker 3: All right, So let's actually get the Stevens and Sylvester
Speaker 3: opinion on the hot button topic. I feel like ASU Texas,
Speaker 3: I feel like that's targeting every single time. Well, look,
Speaker 3: you played I didn't you know, you know, and that
Speaker 3: was that was a call that really could have set
Speaker 3: ASU up. Now they've had kicking game problems all year,
Speaker 3: so there's no guarantee. And I've heard the argument that
Speaker 3: because of you know, the time of the game, that's
Speaker 3: not a call you want to make in.
Speaker 1: Order to don't get me started on that.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, good, okay, good, because I'm with you. But look, honestly,
Speaker 3: you know how I do the show. I try to
Speaker 3: figure out all angles and I've been listening for a
Speaker 3: reason that makes sense to me as to why they
Speaker 3: didn't make the call, and I simply haven't heard it, sly,
Speaker 3: So give me your opinion on what went down there.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, first of all, the referees get to
Speaker 1: review these things, right, and so in Low Hill, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Arizona State tried to hire people off the street to
Speaker 1: be a kicker, but they had great kicking game in
Speaker 1: the conference championship, so I expected them to roll with
Speaker 1: that and do well if they were set up in
Speaker 1: good position. To me, that was targeting, right and to
Speaker 1: the definition. Now when I played, there was no targeting.
Speaker 1: Stuff wasn't a thing. The reasons why they probably couldn't
Speaker 1: have called it because his face was up right, it
Speaker 1: was like face to him. But per the definition of
Speaker 1: what we've been able to or been privy to and experienced,
Speaker 1: very subjective in my conference meetings on how the officials
Speaker 1: actually officiated, and all depends on the crew that day,
Speaker 1: which is bizarre. It's not a universal thing. But helmet
Speaker 1: to helmet con intact on a defenseless receiver is targeting period.
Speaker 1: That's why I say it's targeting. At that point of
Speaker 1: the game, you call that call, but I mean, the
Speaker 1: only reason why you wouldn't is because the defender's face
Speaker 1: was up It wasn't the crown of the helmet, and
Speaker 1: so that would be for argument. But if you want
Speaker 1: to talk helmet to helmet contact is a definition of
Speaker 1: targeting that was targeting at a significant point in the game.
Speaker 1: I understand you let the players play and let that
Speaker 1: determine it. Old football, that wouldn't even be a question.
Speaker 1: But if you're going with these new rules and what
Speaker 1: it is, then adhere to it as simple as that.
Speaker 3: So did Arizona State, in your opinion slide answer any
Speaker 3: questions about the narrative that the Big Twelve didn't.
Speaker 2: Deserve a bye round one?
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta give Kenny I mean, Kenny Dillingham,
Speaker 3: my goodness, like herm left that program for dead man.
Speaker 3: They won three games the year before, and you know,
Speaker 3: the narrative was no Big Twelve by they're gonna get
Speaker 3: run by Texas. So even in a loss, did that
Speaker 3: answer some questions about the conference?
Speaker 1: You think, oh, yeah, the conference was tough man and
Speaker 1: and and Arizona State, who's picked at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the conference, you know, giving Texas a run for the
Speaker 1: money and double overtime and we sitting here talking about
Speaker 1: opportunities where they should have won it. Uh, definitely give
Speaker 1: it to you. Texas definitely should have beat Georgia and
Speaker 1: been conference champion of the SEC and and so like
Speaker 1: that's just it right there, and so like I hate
Speaker 1: you know, kirkirk Street. First, take all these guys talking
Speaker 1: about who should be in there who shouldn't. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: if you guys put the criteria up and people fit
Speaker 1: into that criteria, then that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The fourteen playoff that was some bs because there was
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that deserved it. You put other
Speaker 1: people in, but you know, just because of people donors
Speaker 1: and and respect people's bank accounts, this and that don't
Speaker 1: negate the play on the field. And I think Arizona
Speaker 1: definitely proved themselves to be there, prove that the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve is worthy of being in these games no matter what.
Speaker 1: And so even Iowa State, right, they played great against Miami.
Speaker 1: I know kem Word didn't play in the second half,
Speaker 1: but you gotta love rock Gobec. I think the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve next year we're gonna have four or five teams
Speaker 1: that people are gonna be like, have a great shot
Speaker 1: at being a part of these twelve team playoffs and
Speaker 1: making some noise.
Speaker 3: All right, So before we get to the local stuff,
Speaker 3: it feels like at this point, Ohio State, you know
Speaker 3: the old saying like, how good is your ceiling when
Speaker 3: you are playing at your best?
Speaker 2: What does that look like?
Speaker 3: And it feels like Ohio State's best sly is better
Speaker 3: than everybody else's best, including Oregon's best.
Speaker 2: Who is the number one team in the country.
Speaker 3: Does it feel like this national championship is Ohio State's
Speaker 3: to lose?
Speaker 2: And if not, who do you think it can get
Speaker 2: in their way?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? It's wide open.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I love hearing that.
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely not Ohio State. We all know that great
Speaker 1: game plans can help out, you know, certain situations. Plus,
Speaker 1: it's hard to beat a team twice. That's why I
Speaker 1: didn't like Ohio State being in the same bracket as
Speaker 1: an Oregon in this because, like, I'm just like, you
Speaker 1: just didn't give a shot to other people. They've already
Speaker 1: played Oregon in Ohio State. It was a thriller during
Speaker 1: the season. I absolutely loved that game. But you know,
Speaker 1: now you have Notre Dame who had to play Indiana
Speaker 1: and then goes on to play Georgia. I think this
Speaker 1: is wide open, right, And I'm a big proponent and
Speaker 1: looking at matchups as matchups, right, Not necessarily your rec
Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, throw your record out the door,
Speaker 1: Throw the statistics out the door. They may help you
Speaker 1: in certain situations as far as the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1: The playoffs, it's all about grit and who could come
Speaker 1: with it. You could have a lowly second team guy
Speaker 1: who gets a start and has the game of his
Speaker 1: career and he ruins it for the other team, right,
Speaker 1: the guy that you didn't scout. These are the type
Speaker 1: of games. Playoffs is all about matchups and who aligns right.
Speaker 1: Right if Ohio State meets a good team that has
Speaker 1: a and the credible defense as far as like Penn
Speaker 1: State or even the way Notre Dame played the other day,
Speaker 1: like who knows what can happen? And so I say
Speaker 1: this all the time. No game is won before it's played.
Speaker 1: Ohio State is very talented, but I do not think
Speaker 1: that they have the track. This Texas game and the
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl is going to be terrific at Att Stadium
Speaker 1: next week, and I can't wait for it. I think
Speaker 1: all of these matchups are our premier and can't wait
Speaker 1: to see who goes to the national championship.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move over.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad you said that, because all I want
Speaker 3: every single time I sit down to watch one of
Speaker 3: these things, I'm like, just give me a good game.
Speaker 2: I've got no dog in the fight.
Speaker 3: So hopefully, yeah, yeah, for sure, hopefully we get some
Speaker 3: good games the rest of the way. All right, before
Speaker 3: we get to Utah Transfer Portal, you reference BYU, and you.
Speaker 2: Know what's interesting.
Speaker 3: There are data points and metrics that indicate BYU may
Speaker 3: have been overlooked in the process to figure out who
Speaker 3: should be in this twelve team thing. But they really
Speaker 3: weren't slide for whatever reason, and I feel like it's
Speaker 3: because of the timing of the losses. They lose two
Speaker 3: of their final three and that Kansas loss at home
Speaker 3: where you hang thirteen, I mean, that's the one that's
Speaker 3: gonna cause Killanne sleepless nights during the offseason. But their
Speaker 3: strength to record, their strength to schedule, their quality wins,
Speaker 3: they beat a playoff team, they lost to a playoff team.
Speaker 3: There are data points that do indicate BYU probably should
Speaker 3: have received a little bit more attention and maybe even
Speaker 3: deserve some inclusion. But you feel like if BYU was
Speaker 3: allowed entrance to this twelve team CFP, that they would
Speaker 3: have showed they measured up to the best teams in
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 1: No question. I mean anybody that they would have played against,
Speaker 1: whether it was Tennessee, SMU, Notre Dame. I think that
Speaker 1: they would have been an extremely great add to this
Speaker 1: the way that they played defense, right, and then when
Speaker 1: you get to playoff football, it's about defense. When I
Speaker 1: got to Pittsburgh, it really solidified itself. I knew it
Speaker 1: at Utah, but when we were in Pittsburgh and my
Speaker 1: rookie year and we just had the most elite defense
Speaker 1: that a lot of people just couldn't do anything against.
Speaker 1: Man that that just set the stage. I mean, we
Speaker 1: lost in the Super Bowl and you could tell the
Speaker 1: pick six or you know, a muff punt that we
Speaker 1: didn't recover those little instances. But you know, ultimately it
Speaker 1: comes down to defense. And b Yu I think has
Speaker 1: a top five defense in the country, and I think
Speaker 1: that they would have reigned, especially if Brettslov can get
Speaker 1: out of his own way and stop messing things up
Speaker 1: and they just have a great day. It's anybody, anybody
Speaker 1: could have a day, right, That's why, like you know,
Speaker 1: coaches with motivation when we're getting warmed up and getting
Speaker 1: ready for the game, they say, have a day, right,
Speaker 1: Like make sure today's your day to have a day,
Speaker 1: so any it could be anybody's day. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: not giving Ohio State the clean track to the to
Speaker 1: the national championship. It could be anybody's day. And I
Speaker 1: think b YU would have made a great showing not
Speaker 1: only for the State of Utah, but for the conference
Speaker 1: in Big Twelve. And I think they would have did
Speaker 1: a great job sticking.
Speaker 3: With the BYU side of things. Do you feel like
Speaker 3: you know you're one of the Big Twelve? It wasn't
Speaker 3: all bad, right, I mean, the record clearly was not
Speaker 3: what they were hoping. But and I'm not a moral
Speaker 3: victory guy, but you heard a lot of like, hey,
Speaker 3: we are not far off. All these games were close
Speaker 3: one score games, and you could call me as a
Speaker 3: cynic because, like I said, I'm not a moral victory guy.
Speaker 3: But that proved to be correct because they turned a
Speaker 3: lot of those ls into wins.
Speaker 2: Year two.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like Kilate has built this thing up
Speaker 3: slide where BYU is now kind of entering the beginning
Speaker 3: of a really really successful era in the Big twelve,
Speaker 3: Like it's not just like a one year you know,
Speaker 3: stratospheric shot. This is something that consistently can be really
Speaker 3: good down in Provo for a long time.
Speaker 1: Well, you got to understand what comes with it, right,
Speaker 1: What comes with winning is there's both good and bad. Right.
Speaker 1: You got the bad where everybody's gunning for you, You're
Speaker 1: gonna get everybody's best shot, everybody's gonna want to take
Speaker 1: you down. And you got to keep out the ego
Speaker 1: in your locker room. There's a lot of that bad stuff,
Speaker 1: but you also got to recognize the good stuff with it, right.
Speaker 1: You know, you get ultimate recruiting, you get a lot
Speaker 1: of people like they're doing something down there in Byu.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to be a part of, right,
Speaker 1: Like they're doing stuff like where they got a winning culture.
Speaker 1: They keep things in place. And if I want to
Speaker 1: have all of bad things and I'm going into something
Speaker 1: that's already working, right, I don't have to be a
Speaker 1: part of a rebuild. You talk about the jazz, right,
Speaker 1: how awful is that to be a part of a rebuild? Right?
Speaker 1: And I feel for Jordan Clarkson man these are good
Speaker 1: years for him and Laurie Marketing as well. Like you're
Speaker 1: going through rebuild, Like, how do I want to waste
Speaker 1: years of my career doing that right. And then but
Speaker 1: like b Yu, they're setting their states right. They did
Speaker 1: a great job at the end of last season that
Speaker 1: propelled them into this past season and and it just
Speaker 1: helped them out. Red Sluff got the majority of the
Speaker 1: snaps at the end of the season last year, all
Speaker 1: off season this year, and he proved to be their
Speaker 1: starting quarterback and lead them into the great season this year,
Speaker 1: right like Cam Rising, took a lot of the reps
Speaker 1: this offseason and none of our backups did. And we
Speaker 1: saw what happened right the year before buy you had
Speaker 1: tons of quarterback issues. You didn't know if it was
Speaker 1: gonna be Keaton Slovas or one of the other guys.
Speaker 1: But you know, you see what happens when you have
Speaker 1: a stable quarterback throughout the entire year. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I'd love to go into a good situation. That's what
Speaker 1: Kilani's building down there. He's got great head coaches that
Speaker 1: don't seem like they're gonna retire or move on anytime soon.
Speaker 1: He's got great relationships and what I hear over and
Speaker 1: over and over again from guys that I talk to,
Speaker 1: I see all the Utah guys that coaching down there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I hate to see you in this color.
Speaker 1: This is disgusting, literal hate. I said that to Siony
Speaker 1: Pooha after the Utah game. To day He's like, I know, man,
Speaker 1: but I just love Kialani. The way Kilani is doing
Speaker 1: things down here, it's the right way. I gotta support
Speaker 1: my boy, and they're doing it. And so Kilani is
Speaker 1: creating from the top down is what it is. Right.
Speaker 1: Can your top stay in place and and and be
Speaker 1: a great infrastructure that kids can adhere to when they
Speaker 1: come in. You guys are old guys and and and
Speaker 1: continue to success. And that's what Kilani is doing. He's
Speaker 1: putting people on the map, giving people their credit as
Speaker 1: far as Roderick and Jay Hill, and they're just building
Speaker 1: something down there that that's good. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: hope that a wrench doesn't get thrown into all that.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he's doing things progressing.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been it hasn't been quick. So nobody can
Speaker 1: look at BYU and say like, oh, this happened over
Speaker 1: light Like Claut has been trying to do this for
Speaker 1: ten years and now he's on the right track, and
Speaker 1: so uh good for him and putting together a good program.
Speaker 2: And they were able to grab a really good player.
Speaker 3: Since you and I spoke, Keanu town of Vasa has
Speaker 3: elected to head down south about forty miles after a
Speaker 3: really good uh stint here at Utah.
Speaker 2: He's a good kid, man, he's a good player.
Speaker 3: This one sting slide, but BYU gets a really really
Speaker 3: good player and a very very solid guy.
Speaker 2: What was your action when you heard the news?
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was crap. You know,
Speaker 1: I was upset about it because it's just like, why
Speaker 1: why do you leave? Right? And and my whole thing
Speaker 1: is just like I just want these guys to be honest, right,
Speaker 1: just be honest with opinion. I heard Keanu talk about
Speaker 1: guys leaving. I've interviewed him multiple times this year, talking
Speaker 1: about how much he loves this program, how much he
Speaker 1: loves these people around here, how much x y Z
Speaker 1: right like and then not only does the season end,
Speaker 1: do you say that I'm being here in Utah and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at Utah? Man, you go back and
Speaker 1: and and and jump in the portal and do exactly
Speaker 1: what you accused or accosted everybody else for doing and
Speaker 1: not only do you have the year that we had had,
Speaker 1: the game that we played against BYU, and then you
Speaker 1: signed to BYU. That is that to me is just
Speaker 1: the worst mix, Like leave, Okay, that's fine, but you
Speaker 1: can't say that I'm being a Utah Man and then
Speaker 1: do that, right. And so this is what I've been doing.
Speaker 1: You know, since I've been starting my brand line of
Speaker 1: Utah Man brand line is I've been talking to all
Speaker 1: of these former players from Coach Wit to Morgan's Galley,
Speaker 1: Sharif Shaw, Luther Ellis, Eric Weddle, Alex Smith, and Rod
Speaker 1: McBride said it the best I think, And he's just
Speaker 1: like a Utah Man is all about investment, right, you
Speaker 1: got to invest in this program from the good and bad.
Speaker 1: Ron McBride said, I've been invested in this program since
Speaker 1: the seventies. My family's been invested in this program since
Speaker 1: the seventies. And anybody that leaves the program do they
Speaker 1: really do they really showcase investment And it's not right.
Speaker 1: And so yes, Ken Tom Voss is very articulate. Right,
Speaker 1: I've interviewed him. You guys have heard him. He's great.
Speaker 1: He's a young guy. So you know, young decisions. I
Speaker 1: can't say that I was seventeen eighteen years old and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make great decisions. But when you say something,
Speaker 1: you got to meet it. And I hope that everybody
Speaker 1: else holds people accountable for those things, right. And so
Speaker 1: for me, this all just sounded like a used car
Speaker 1: salesman bit from him saying that I've communed with the
Speaker 1: Lord and he told me to leave Utah to go
Speaker 1: to someone else, to his interviews of him saying that
Speaker 1: I wasn't wrong that Utah. Nothing was wrong at Utah,
Speaker 1: to the point to where at the same statement he
Speaker 1: goes and says, I just want, you know, to be
Speaker 1: around people that you know appreciate me for me, And
Speaker 1: is that not a shot at he wasn't being appreciated
Speaker 1: for him and for him being him at Utah, So
Speaker 1: like that felt to me like a contradictive statement. Where
Speaker 1: he played six games this year barring injury, whenever he
Speaker 1: was injured, he got his starting job back. That showed
Speaker 1: investment and loyalty from the Utah spart to give to
Speaker 1: him at that point, right, and then on top of that,
Speaker 1: after he was injured, he got his job back. But
Speaker 1: like I don't know, just the whole the whole deal
Speaker 1: just stunk up the joint. And look, if you want
Speaker 1: to make a business decision, make it a business decision.
Speaker 1: I hate all these guys giving these freaking two page
Speaker 1: little chat GBT essays about how I love the university
Speaker 1: and then go out and just do other things. Just
Speaker 1: say I'm making a business decision. This feels right, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do it. I'm good with that. Don't say
Speaker 1: I commune with the Lord, I love Utah, I'm a
Speaker 1: Utah man, and then go sign with BYU. It doesn't mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair perspective because so much of
Speaker 3: it is how you handle it. And I am with you,
Speaker 3: because when the religiosity angle is brought into play, I
Speaker 3: think people just expect you to back off because this
Speaker 3: is my beliefs and this is my God.
Speaker 2: And look, I respect everyone's beliefs.
Speaker 3: I come from a family of very faithful people that
Speaker 3: love their beliefs. So I'm not I'm not begrudging anybody
Speaker 3: for their God or how you want to live your
Speaker 3: life with religion. But it does seem like SLA a
Speaker 3: lot of these at a lot of these situations, you know,
Speaker 3: the cloak of the reality is behind the message of hey,
Speaker 3: God told me to do this, and you can't really
Speaker 3: say much, which I think is it's a little bit
Speaker 3: tough for people to stomach, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I completely agree with you. God has definitely
Speaker 1: blessed everybody with these talents, right, your athletic ability, your mind,
Speaker 1: this and that. But to make the decisions that you make.
Speaker 1: People make wrong decisions all the time. So if you
Speaker 1: make a wrong decision, will you say God told me
Speaker 1: to do the wrong thing? Like you can't like And
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, look, you're human. You make your decisions.
Speaker 1: You make your decisions. But like just to be like,
Speaker 1: I love the religious movement throughout you know, especially at
Speaker 1: Boise State right there. I love that man and I
Speaker 1: believe and I'm a big religious guy as well, and
Speaker 1: the foundational presence that you get from your religion, whatever
Speaker 1: religion you want to follow, I believe that's that's what
Speaker 1: us humans should do. I don't want to make the
Speaker 1: segment into all that money goodness. I think that when
Speaker 1: you start using you know, the Lord's name and all
Speaker 1: these different capacities, that doesn't really fit the Lord's plan.
Speaker 1: That bothers me, and so just say I've been blessed
Speaker 1: with these many talents I and my family, which people
Speaker 1: have done, have chosen to do X y Z. I
Speaker 1: don't need this big exert expose about YadA YadA YadA. Look,
Speaker 1: this is time, This is in il time, this is
Speaker 1: transport portal time. This is just what it is. I'm
Speaker 1: fitting in, I'm taking advantage. This feels right. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Just say that move on with you today and we
Speaker 1: will too.
Speaker 2: I think that's really fair perspective.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I like the way you put that. So before I
Speaker 3: say you lose, here's how I'll pose the question. As
Speaker 3: of today, another transfer portal addition for the Utes. By
Speaker 3: my account, that's forty two new players on campus. Between
Speaker 3: coming freshman and transfer portal editions. There will be another
Speaker 3: spring window, So I'm not saying this is the group.
Speaker 3: But before I say you lose on this New Year's Friday,
Speaker 3: the way I'll pose the question is what gives you
Speaker 3: the most hope that this retool slash rebuild is going
Speaker 3: to bring Utah football back to where we're accustomed to
Speaker 3: seeing them next year.
Speaker 1: It had to be coach Whittingham coming back. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, I've said it on my show in KSL
Speaker 1: that you know, coach Whittingham. You know, these past couple
Speaker 1: of years, I haven't seen that energy on the sideline
Speaker 1: that I'm used to seeing. Right, And if this man
Speaker 1: is going out, I want him to go out the
Speaker 1: right way. Right. I want to make twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: the year of wit. Right, let's get this Whittingham statue
Speaker 1: in place, and let's make this year great. I would
Speaker 1: just want to see that that fire and that excitement
Speaker 1: from him, and I think that is what's going to
Speaker 1: make the difference. Coming in Jason Beck, I hope you know,
Speaker 1: he's a young guy less than twenty years ago he played,
Speaker 1: and he's had a track of getting experience of understanding
Speaker 1: the new trends and new era of football nowadays, and
Speaker 1: the way he ran New Mexico last year. It gives
Speaker 1: me a lot of excitement. Right, you gotta be on
Speaker 1: an attack mindset. And then you know the players that
Speaker 1: came in. I love Devin Dan Pierre. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see what he can do. I hope he just
Speaker 1: you know, stays humble and understands that look, I gotta
Speaker 1: be aggressive. I gotta have an aggressive mindset, and I
Speaker 1: have not made it right. I don't want these guys
Speaker 1: to come into Utah and think that I got it
Speaker 1: made right. I'm the number one guy, like no work
Speaker 1: for it right, go out there and get it. No
Speaker 1: game is won before it's played, No season is done,
Speaker 1: No championship is one before it's played. Be hungry every
Speaker 1: single time. I love way Sean Parker as well. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a good ad. And we just keep
Speaker 1: adding guys, and it's hard. I would hate to be
Speaker 1: these coaches right now. I'd hate to be this recruiting staff.
Speaker 1: You got to continually recruit, right. These guys are in
Speaker 1: the program right now. Who says that they won't be
Speaker 1: in the program and the next transfer portal opening right? Uh.
Speaker 1: So it's just an ongoing uh thing. And and it's hard.
Speaker 1: You got to continue to evolve. But hopefully Jason beck
Speaker 1: Is is understanding what he needs. And I see a
Speaker 1: lot of smaller, quicker receivers that have got on this
Speaker 1: football team as well. So I'm really excited to see
Speaker 1: that man and and and from Creed with more. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a good ad to uh Donovan
Speaker 1: Saunders and and and all these other guys, Uh, Brennan Zerberg.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be huge ads. And the way
Speaker 1: we use this offense is RPO game. I was watching
Speaker 1: the Ravens game the other day, of course, and they
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers. But the offensive sets that they do
Speaker 1: in that, I hope Jason Beck is paying attention to
Speaker 1: that because I think Dan Pierre could use that like crazy.
Speaker 1: It's awesome the way that they use their offense. So
Speaker 1: just pay attention to to Baltimore here in these playoffs
Speaker 1: and watch their offensive sets, watch how they cute and
Speaker 1: how they get the defense vulnerable and confused. I think
Speaker 1: if we can do that with Devin Dan Pierre, I
Speaker 1: think Utah is going to be dangerous man. And what
Speaker 1: Utah has been missing is what I want to say,
Speaker 1: is that offensive energy, right. I think the defense has
Speaker 1: always had that with Morgan Scalley. So hats off to
Speaker 1: Morgan for always keeping the defense on that attack with
Speaker 1: those three and outs and getting the offense the ball back.
Speaker 1: I just want our offense to score forty plus points
Speaker 1: a game. And if I can get Jay, if we sorry,
Speaker 1: if we can get Jason Beck to have that mentality
Speaker 1: of I gotta score forty or else it's or else.
Speaker 1: We we didn't accomplish our goal, then I think Utah
Speaker 1: is going to be dangerous a couple of minute. As
Speaker 1: we said about you know, CFP with a great defense
Speaker 1: and just so so just like the Steelers, right, Steelers
Speaker 1: have been missing a quarterback. We finally got Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: to manage something and now they're a playoff team, right,
Speaker 1: even with losing the last three games. And so if
Speaker 1: Utah can do the same. We have a great defense,
Speaker 1: we can get some competency on offense. We're going to
Speaker 1: be a dangerous, dangers football team in the whole NCAA.
Speaker 3: I like the optimism, Slie. I hope you're right, man,
Speaker 3: appreciate the time. On a Friday, one more time, I'll
Speaker 3: say Happy New Year, have.
Speaker 2: A great weekend. Okay, Happy New Year's all right.
Speaker 3: The great Stevens and Sylvester, one of the best to
Speaker 3: ever do it, joins us on a very consistent basis
Speaker 3: throughout football season.