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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty KFI Handle Here.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a Tuesday morning, the twelfth day of November

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<v Speaker 2>to Taco Tuesday coming up this Saturday, November sixteenth, Join

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<v Speaker 2>me at the La Lawyers Philharmonic and Legal Voices concert.

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<v Speaker 2>They do this every year at Barnhum Hall in Santa Monica.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the lawyers, Judges, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an orchestra made up of legal people that aren't

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<v Speaker 2>suing you, and it's a terrific orchestra. Classical music, movie, classics,

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<v Speaker 2>contemporary music. I think they're doing Beauty and the Beasts

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff from there. So it's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. And just go to La Lawyers phil as

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<v Speaker 2>In Philharmonic La lawyersphil dot Org. Tickets are like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to ninety dollars and half of that is deductible, so's

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have a great time, it really is. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be there and I'll be wearing the loud Hawaiian shirt

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<v Speaker 2>so you can track me down maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it is it true that they carry their instruments

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<v Speaker 3>in their own hand and they have no cases?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, Well, but they do all wear suits, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's very good on both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>And they do it in their underwear because they like to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, deal with briefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can do this for a while. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we not? We probably can, Yeah, that's probably true. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why Neil's part of this show. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night, there was a meeting that sort of slipped

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<v Speaker 2>through the cracks, I guess after the reaction to the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump election, and the California Air Resources Board approved major

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<v Speaker 2>changes to the low Carbon Fuel Standard. Basically, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>program aimed at encouraging use of cleaner fuels with financial incentives.

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<v Speaker 2>So the board voted twelve to two, seven hours of comments,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred people, four hours of discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is the heart of the controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you wean Californians off gasoline and diesel? Because

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<v Speaker 2>in order to clear the states or clean the state's

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<v Speaker 2>dirty air and reducing the state's role in climate crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you do that without raising.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost to consumers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they've tried, they've tried, and the reason they're really

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<v Speaker 2>pushing hard is that the board made this an emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>Issue to push for cleaner fuels.

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<v Speaker 2>Why, because we had an election on Tuesday, which Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has denied the existence of climate change and have

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<v Speaker 2>targeted California environmental programs. And I told you California is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into a war almost immediately with Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the problem with this new program. The potential effects.

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<v Speaker 1>On our fuel prices are unknown. We have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>The board itself a few months ago said our fuel

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<v Speaker 2>prices are going to increase forty nine cents a gallon

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<v Speaker 2>by next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And the pushback was so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to go no, no, no, that was we weren't predicting that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're saying that it could under very broad circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's a really weird one. Who's against it? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>for it? Now? This is to reduce screenhouse gases.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Environmentals and environmentalists.

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<v Speaker 2>And consumer advocates oppose the rules, warning that the changes

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<v Speaker 2>will boost alternative fuels.

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with that? Like biofuels, And here is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Biofuels made from commonre soybeans, they say have limited upsides.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of this is oil companies are allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in business because they can buy credits. Because it

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<v Speaker 2>expanded the credits, we'll go ahead and produce crap fuels

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<v Speaker 2>that pollute the environment, and to the extent that we can,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll buy the credits from biofuels. And what's happening is

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<v Speaker 2>the consumers are saying, or the environment is saying, that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do anything. If you really want to clean up

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<v Speaker 2>the environment, you clean up the environment. So who is

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of this new bill the electric car folks

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<v Speaker 2>and the biofuel companies saying that it's going to provide

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars in funds and incentives to move California

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<v Speaker 2>towards eliminating carbon fuels. Okay, now we had there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of kosher controversies about this program. It's been around

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty eleven, and it's a credit system, and it

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<v Speaker 2>requires fuels in California to be progressively cleaner. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we have that summer blend and it's getting worse and worse.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be that California was fifty cents a

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<v Speaker 2>gallon more than other states, and that wasn't that long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Today it's a dollar fifty more than other states per gallon,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna get worse. Why because the other states,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly under Trump, are going to move as quickly as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly the southern states, particularly those that are conservative, to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of virtually every environmental environmental control because there

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<v Speaker 2>is a president now that doesn't believe in climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna love it because you've got people in Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, they're going to be flooded out for the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth time this year, and they're going to stand up

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<v Speaker 2>and go, Nope, not a problem. Or people in the

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<v Speaker 2>wildfire areas that can't get insurance, they can't get home insurance. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not a problem. There is no climate change there. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't buy it. Okay, hurricanes, how about that forest fire

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<v Speaker 2>in New York? Whoever heard of a forest fire on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the Hudson whoever heard that? And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's an out of control forest fire because

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<v Speaker 2>of the drought that's going on in the Northeast. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's going to be very, very weird. But

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<v Speaker 2>this happened. They passed it on Friday and just went

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<v Speaker 2>right through the cracks.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is going to affect us.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, can you imagine waking up sometime next year

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<v Speaker 2>in its fifty cents a gallon more for gas?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we don't pay enough for gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, in the world of Donald Trump, we don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>enough for gas.

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<v Speaker 1>California should pay a lot more for gas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not only is it going to be a fascinating presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>As I told you, they're going to be major, major

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<v Speaker 2>changes in the way we live. But part of the

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<v Speaker 2>fascination is the all outright battle between our state and

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<v Speaker 2>the Feds. And it's going to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fodder for us, that's for sure. Okay, if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>have kids go to college, and I have, there are

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<v Speaker 2>two days during their first year which is always kind

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<v Speaker 2>of interesting. Day one is putting the kids into the

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<v Speaker 2>dorms right setting them up, and every parent does that.

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<v Speaker 1>You go there, you go to Ikea and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy the crap or target and the kids go in,

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<v Speaker 2>set up the bedding, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>The next time out is and this goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>Every years parent day at school. Now Parent Day is

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<v Speaker 2>a real party and people get plastered. And who gets

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<v Speaker 2>plastered more than the kids? The parents get plastered more

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<v Speaker 2>than the kids. That's the new normal where you have

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<v Speaker 2>these high jinks at fraternities, hijinks like killing kids during

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their first weeks in the fraternity, their pledge weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where the parents come out and what do

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<v Speaker 2>they do well? Their tours around campus send there are

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<v Speaker 2>lectures and everybody has a good time. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>football game, right that's where they normally do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a home game and it's against the rivals, and

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<v Speaker 2>parents fly from all over the country. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>story out of the Wall Street Journal about this woman,

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa de Leon, University of Arizona. So she goes out

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<v Speaker 2>there at the university and she talks about what her

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<v Speaker 2>parents did at the University of Missouri. They came for lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>they went to the football game, and then they left.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Nicole beat again.

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<v Speaker 2>This story has twins that are Junior's, University of Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>and University of Wisconsin. Who's gone to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>these things and says the new normal is now parents

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<v Speaker 2>are drinking and dancing and having a rip roaring good time.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, University of Michigan Parents weekend in September. The

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<v Speaker 2>football game started at noon, the drinking started at eight

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<v Speaker 2>thirty in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The parents were real happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know who won that game, by the way, but

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<v Speaker 2>either real happy or really sad by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>She does not like this.

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<v Speaker 2>De Leone does not like the cheap beer, so she

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<v Speaker 2>takes many bottles of Tito's vodka and stuffs it into

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<v Speaker 2>her fannic pack and then drinks like crazy in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So by the time she gets to the game, which

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<v Speaker 2>of course they search for bottles of booze, she's already

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<v Speaker 2>having a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't even matter with a cheap beer, she says.

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<v Speaker 2>The frat houses are disgusting, but you make the best

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<v Speaker 2>of it. A giant tent is set up overlooking the lake.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the University of Michigan. We're dancing, we're hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with kids, we're pregaming, and we're just having the time

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a one story.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a senior at usc alyssa broad She went on

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok and saw a post of her dad downing jello

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<v Speaker 2>shots at ten am in the morning and then dancing around.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know, first of all, I'm not a drinker,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, so I don't hang around those crowds.

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<v Speaker 2>But it seems to be that we have sort of

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<v Speaker 2>switched over where you have these staid parents.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is when you think.

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<v Speaker 2>About it, it's a time in your life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>did this with my daughter University of San Francisco or

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco University, when she went to school and.

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<v Speaker 1>There, and it's a Jesuit school, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So the drinks, I mean, they offer drinks, little tiny

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<v Speaker 2>cups of wine and some wafers and that was all

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<v Speaker 1>It was very, very boring.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was a lot of discussion in parties

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot of stuff about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I sent my Jewish daughter to that.

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<v Speaker 2>School is she happened to be a good student and

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<v Speaker 2>they gave her a scholarship. They gave her a Merit scholarship.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, just a quick story, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is she got a Merit scholarship.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to the school and I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, listen, I mean appreciate that she got a scholarship,

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<v Speaker 2>but tell you what, you know what I can afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>We put the money away for her college education.

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<v Speaker 2>I started a college fund when the girls were born,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fully funded now because I put money in

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<v Speaker 2>every month for the last eighteen years. So why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you take the money and give it part of the

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<v Speaker 2>scholarship fund and give it to some kid who can't

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a private university. And they said no.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, our program is if you have a merit scholarship,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to accept the scholarship. Otherwise your daughter is

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<v Speaker 2>not accepted in I said, wait a minute, hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>hang on. You're telling me that you are not going

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, yep, wow, that is so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like at the synagogue where my girls were bought

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<v Speaker 2>mitzvad or banot Mitzvad. They asked for a big donation,

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<v Speaker 2>and do you want a room named after you?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I'm not a building or anything, but a room.

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<v Speaker 1>You want a room?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, the only thing I want is I

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I wanted. So therefore, you can sell off

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<v Speaker 2>I just want the urinals, you know that little plaque

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're gonna see that's right. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, parents and school and donations and all that stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>a quick story I want to share with you about

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<v Speaker 2>sales meetings and long lunches. Now we know they have

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<v Speaker 2>faded in the past, or they were part of the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but that process has speeded up a new generation of

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<v Speaker 2>executives basically reimagining how business is going to get done.

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<v Speaker 2>They're hyper connected, they're digitally savvy twenties and thirty somethings.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they connect LinkedIn and then follow up with

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<v Speaker 2>If they go to a party, they're ordering mocktails, non

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<v Speaker 2>alcoholic beer when they're out with older clients. One of them,

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<v Speaker 2>said I'll order the lightest possible logger, let.

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<v Speaker 1>Them drink the whiskey. So what's going on with this? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Bunch of reasons why this is happening, including increased competition,

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic employee turnover. Decision makers are now a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more of them. The old ways of doing business just

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<v Speaker 2>aren't there anymore. First of all companies have clamped down

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<v Speaker 2>on quote, excessive spending and entertaining. They just don't do

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<v Speaker 2>that anymore. And how often do we take clients for lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>Occasionally, but not like we used to.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest change in the word culture is simply the

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<v Speaker 1>The bar for selling is so much higher than it

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<v Speaker 2>And according to the chief revenue officer for one of

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<v Speaker 1>Companies says that a lot of these party tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't really work anymore, and he sells technology to small restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't just wine and dine and buddy up to

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<v Speaker 2>someone and expect a result. You have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to demonstrate competence as a seller, because your selling experience

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<v Speaker 2>is indicative of what your company.

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<v Speaker 1>Is doing and the support that it's going to give.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Professionality of sales is extraordinary. Why it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>get salespeople into good positions without a lot of experience.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't a lot of there aren't too many backbenches,

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<v Speaker 2>or there is not too too many of these training programs.

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<v Speaker 2>They are just to expend. They want people to know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing. Okay, fair enough, So now it's going

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<v Speaker 2>that way. But here's the problem with it. With the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>which makes it far easier to contact people, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you get through the clutter? That's the problem. Let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you're a buyer, right, and you've just bought a case

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<v Speaker 2>of pencils from company A, and that information is now

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<v Speaker 2>out there with a good algorithm AI, everybody who sells.

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<v Speaker 1>Pencils, who distributes pencils, who does.

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<v Speaker 2>Office supplies, who thinks about selling pencils and doing a

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<v Speaker 2>startup about selling pencils, knows that you've just bought pencils,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden you get three thousand emails.

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<v Speaker 2>The professionality is staying there. A lot of people are

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<v Speaker 2>going back to figuring out and networking. Of course, is

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<v Speaker 2>everything going almost back to the old days where it's

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<v Speaker 2>one on one, where they're going back to meetings. And

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<v Speaker 2>in radio, for example, radio sales programming, it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be where you'd have not program directors per se. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have program directors, but you would have promoters going

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<v Speaker 1>Promote songs, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Promote albums, or to promote product done by the people

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<v Speaker 1>And there were very unsavory things going on. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and.

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<v Speaker 2>Algorithms took care of all of that. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening in radio, And I see this every day.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going back to old school bags of cash and

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<v Speaker 2>files of cocaine because that worked then and then it

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<v Speaker 3>No, when I got into radio in the late eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of that stuff had already gone away.

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<v Speaker 1>But they did have the you know, four martini lunches.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember those.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too, You could have a lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd have sales managers go out and spend three hours

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<v Speaker 2>And boy are those days gone. Those days are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think that salespeople even have expense accounts anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I've been asked, Bill, would you please

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<v Speaker 2>I go, yeah, all right, you know, I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>what welcome to iHeart. I'm telling you, vials of cocaine

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go back to the old days, old school works. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting story about San Francisco forty nine er Stars star

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<v Speaker 1>He crashes a televised.

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<v Speaker 2>Postgame interview to show off his Make America Great hat

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<v Speaker 2>again hat clear violation of the NFL rules, No issue. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how does Pro football deal with this? Does the league

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<v Speaker 2>penalize a player days before the election, risking potential backlash

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<v Speaker 2>from fans and even more importantly, former president soon to

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<v Speaker 1>So what did the NFL do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as teams who are thirty five yards out or

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they did. And they waited until the election

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<v Speaker 2>had come and gone, and then they find Bosa and

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<v Speaker 2>The timing of what Bosa di is places the league

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<v Speaker 2>been perceived as a statement against Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He's wearing the MAGA hat. If you look at history,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Take long for the NFL to issue fines for similar violations.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There Rule five, Section four, Article eight on game days

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<v Speaker 2>when players are visible prohibited from wearing, displaying, otherwise conveying

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<v Speaker 2>the hat. Took two weeks for the NFL to issue

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<v Speaker 2>the punishment. They were going to wait till after the election.

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<v Speaker 2>When it came to finding Vosa, the NFL faced a

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<v Speaker 2>real different calculation. How would any punishment be interpreted? Because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't only get on the wrong side of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't been exactly shy about attacking the NFL and

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<v Speaker 2>the players to rile up his supporters. Colon Kaepernack read

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump went crazy on that one, as did most

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<v Speaker 2>of us, by the way, or a lot of us did.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't thrilled about a political demonstration. There He's on

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<v Speaker 2>his knee to protest about police brutality. Hey, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that on the field. Now, he wasn't fined, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't kicked out, but he was done. He leaves the league,

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<v Speaker 2>no one hires him, completely blackballed. So here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>What Trump did is he ripped into that move is

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<v Speaker 2>right there or issue a huge fine. Because at one

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<v Speaker 2>point players across the league knelt down in rebuke of Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>Even NFL owners privately said that Trump's pressure influenced their handling.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting stuff. The power that President Trump, as candidate

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<v Speaker 2>Trump had and now we'll have his president is astounding,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're done, guys for the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone numbers eight hundred or excuse me, eight seven seven

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking phone calls starting in just a few

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<v Speaker 1>moments off the for handle on the law marginal legal advice.

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<v Speaker 2>numbers eight seven seven five to zero eleven fifty eight

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<v Speaker 2>no breaks, as I always say, no weather, no traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>no patience. All right, tomorrow morning, all over again with

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<v Speaker 2>Amy wake up call from five to six, Neil and

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<v Speaker 2>I come aboard, and all three of us then do

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the show until nine. And an obligatory

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to Cono is pointing to himself saying, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what do I look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Chop Liver. An obligatory thank you to.

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<v Speaker 2>Chop Liver, con O and ann our producer Extraordinaire KF

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